| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
Jordach |
happy new jan 3rd 2014 :) |
| 00:00 |
Jordach |
for gmt+0er's |
| 00:04 |
blaise |
so.. it turns out Irrlicht will not compile with mesa-10.0.x |
| 00:04 |
blaise |
just fyi |
| 00:04 |
blaise |
lmao |
| 00:07 |
jin_xi |
ok, ended up just making crosshair black via conf |
| 00:07 |
blaise |
ok, so if I want to install mods on my deticated minetest server.. where might the mods dir be located? |
| 00:07 |
PilzAdam |
run in place or system-wide installed? |
| 00:07 |
blaise |
system-wide |
| 00:08 |
PilzAdam |
in ~/.minetest/mods/ |
| 00:08 |
PilzAdam |
(you have to create that directory) |
| 00:08 |
blaise |
yeah, if I were running the client.. |
| 00:08 |
blaise |
but what about the server |
| 00:08 |
PilzAdam |
eh, what= |
| 00:08 |
PilzAdam |
*? |
| 00:08 |
blaise |
dedicated minetest server mods dir? |
| 00:09 |
blaise |
/usr/share/games/minetest/games/minimal/mods/ |
| 00:09 |
PilzAdam |
~/.minetest/mods/ |
| 00:09 |
blaise |
found it |
| 00:09 |
blaise |
I think |
| 00:09 |
PilzAdam |
no, thats wrong |
| 00:09 |
PilzAdam |
dont put mods in the game |
| 00:10 |
blaise |
mkdir -p /home/minetest/.minetest/mods |
| 00:10 |
blaise |
and put them there? |
| 00:10 |
PilzAdam |
yea |
| 00:11 |
blaise |
is there a way to specify mods dir? |
| 00:11 |
blaise |
my minetest user doesn't currently have a home dir for security reasons.. and shell=/dev/null |
| 00:11 |
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| 00:11 |
blaise |
:) |
| 00:12 |
PilzAdam |
maybe /usr/share/games/minetest/mods/ works |
| 00:14 |
blaise |
I'm thinking so... |
| 00:15 |
PilzAdam |
remember to also enable the mods in world.mt in the world dir |
| 00:23 |
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| 00:24 |
aldobr |
hi all |
| 00:24 |
blaise |
PilzAdam: thanks |
| 00:27 |
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| 00:29 |
KeyXMakerX |
static_spawnpoint = Bla, bla, bla : to set a static spawn point correct? |
| 00:30 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 00:31 |
Peacock |
Noooooooooooooooooo! |
| 00:33 |
paramat |
he's gone to sit in some soil ... in the dark |
| 00:34 |
Peacock |
that reminds me of the expression: politicians are like mushrooms, keep'em in the dark and feed 'em shit lol |
| 00:35 |
Peacock |
more relevant than ever considering our local municipal politics here lol |
| 00:35 |
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| 00:35 |
Megaf |
Hi all |
| 00:36 |
Megaf |
how do I gitclone this? https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-mods/tree/master/sethome |
| 00:36 |
kaeza |
git clone https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-mods.git |
| 00:36 |
kaeza |
then copy/symlink "sethome" |
| 00:36 |
aldobr |
what happens if i compile a 6502 emulator using a C compiler for 6502 ?! |
| 00:37 |
Megaf |
a black hole |
| 00:38 |
aldobr |
a ressonance cascade :P |
| 00:38 |
Warr1024 |
on said emulator? |
| 00:38 |
Warr1024 |
how do you think they compile gcc :-) |
| 00:38 |
blaise |
arg |
| 00:41 |
Megaf |
kaeza, not a good solution for me |
| 00:41 |
kaeza |
why? |
| 00:42 |
Megaf |
xyz, Would I be asking too much if you put sethome as its own mod, not in a modpack? |
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| 00:55 |
paramat |
http://imgur.com/gallery/SXgcA hehe |
| 00:58 |
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| 01:04 |
paramat |
Peacock http://i.imgur.com/gTgXF9B.png <stability mod> http://i.imgur.com/23xSywA.png moonrealm LVM> http://i.imgur.com/AZPxDxX.png |
| 01:05 |
Peacock |
no lines, weird |
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| 01:16 |
paramat |
Pea ... i only get lines when processing and lowering terrain in mgv6, my realms are unaffected |
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| 01:32 |
blaise |
apparently the dedicated useflag for gentoo with minetest is broken. |
| 01:32 |
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| 01:33 |
blaise |
I did however find out where the mods dir needs to be.. /var/lib/minetest/.minetest/mods |
| 01:33 |
blaise |
:D |
| 01:34 |
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| 01:36 |
blaise |
my question is.. if I install the mods to that dir, does any client that may connect to it have to have the mod? or is this only required server side? |
| 01:37 |
blaise |
or are there some mods that are just for the server and some mods just for the client? |
| 01:39 |
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| 01:39 |
Miner_48er |
All mods are for the server. The only mod to the client is texture packs. |
| 01:39 |
blaise |
cool |
| 01:39 |
VanessaE |
Miner_48er: and sound packs |
| 01:40 |
Miner_48er |
haven't heard of any sound packs |
| 01:40 |
WarrTab |
Model packs? |
| 01:40 |
VanessaE |
technic's extension to the ambiance mod |
| 01:40 |
VanessaE |
it supplies music for the music player nodes |
| 01:40 |
VanessaE |
that is installable as a client-side sound pack |
| 01:41 |
blaise |
should I enable juajit? |
| 01:41 |
blaise |
what are the benifits of using juajit compiler ? |
| 01:41 |
VanessaE |
abso-fucking-lutely |
| 01:42 |
VanessaE |
it makes whatever mods you run locally in singleplayer work faster, take less CPU |
| 01:42 |
WarrTab |
It's like 3x as fast for certain mods... |
| 01:42 |
VanessaE |
JIT as in Just-in-Time (compiler) |
| 01:42 |
blaise |
so are there any benifits for a remote server to have juajit enabled? |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 01:43 |
blaise |
k |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
it won't affect your play on servers |
| 01:43 |
blaise |
what about server preformance? |
| 01:43 |
VanessaE |
if you run a server, absolutely use it, yes |
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| 01:50 |
blaise |
I would like to stres test my minetest server.. |
| 01:50 |
blaise |
:D |
| 01:51 |
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| 01:52 |
hoodedice |
I'm gonna kill anyone who says that Windows 8 is crap |
| 01:52 |
blaise |
lmao |
| 01:52 |
blaise |
hoodedice: why? |
| 01:53 |
hoodedice |
Because I love it |
| 01:53 |
hoodedice |
It's brillint and just works! |
| 01:53 |
hoodedice |
And internet explorer is finally fast and usable |
| 01:53 |
hoodedice |
All this is just like Xubuntu without the touch |
| 01:54 |
hoodedice |
Anyway, no one on> |
| 01:54 |
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| 01:54 |
blaise |
hah |
| 01:54 |
hoodedice |
NekoGloopMkII!! |
| 01:54 |
hoodedice |
Soup? |
| 01:55 |
* VanessaE |
waits for the inevitable MkIV variant |
| 01:55 |
hoodedice |
Yo VanessaE |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 01:55 |
hoodedice |
Cleveland, OH |
| 01:55 |
hoodedice |
^.^ |
| 01:56 |
hoodedice |
College starts in 8 days |
| 01:56 |
WarrTab |
In my experience, comparing win8 to xubuntu is not really a good way to complement it... |
| 01:56 |
hoodedice |
(I'm finally gonna be a real programmer !!!) |
| 01:56 |
blaise |
would anyone be willing to connect to my minetest server to make sure it's able to be used from the WAN ? |
| 01:57 |
hoodedice |
To complement 8? |
| 01:57 |
* blaise |
's minetest server is at midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org |
| 01:57 |
hoodedice |
Dude, if any windows version is better than even Lubuntu |
| 01:57 |
hoodedice |
That version deserves a pat on the back |
| 01:57 |
hoodedice |
XP, 7, all pale in comparision to the mighty 8 |
| 01:57 |
blaise |
hoodedice: the only *buntu derivitave I liked was linux mint |
| 01:58 |
hoodedice |
And while BS flies thru me mouth, people start to leave |
| 01:58 |
hoodedice |
XD |
| 01:58 |
hoodedice |
Anyway, the reason I came on was to scold the core devs |
| 01:58 |
hoodedice |
for releasing 0.4.9 too quick |
| 01:59 |
hoodedice |
No good comes from a rushed release. |
| 01:59 |
katyusha |
0.4.9 is already released? |
| 01:59 |
hoodedice |
BANG! |
| 01:59 |
hoodedice |
LOOK UP! |
| 01:59 |
katyusha |
Well I'll be damned lol |
| 01:59 |
blaise |
lol |
| 01:59 |
katyusha |
oh |
| 02:00 |
katyusha |
derp, I never look up at the titlebar |
| 02:00 |
katyusha |
I feel kinda dumb now |
| 02:00 |
hoodedice |
I check the forums quite frequently, so... |
| 02:00 |
hoodedice |
I only look *up there* for PilzAdam's jokes |
| 02:00 |
blaise |
:D |
| 02:01 |
blaise |
so, either no one can connect to my server.. or no one has tried.. |
| 02:01 |
blaise |
:( |
| 02:01 |
hoodedice |
This isn't my laptop, so I can't |
| 02:02 |
blaise |
hoodedice: you should check out portableapps.com |
| 02:02 |
blaise |
you can have minetest on a flash drive so it won't modify the contents of the host computer |
| 02:02 |
hoodedice |
I'm thinking of getting a niccee USB |
| 02:02 |
hoodedice |
Yes, flash drive, sorry |
| 02:03 |
hoodedice |
Then I'll et up a portable xubuntu installation on it, thanks to john_minetest |
| 02:03 |
katyusha |
try debian instead :s |
| 02:04 |
blaise |
I'm rather partial to source based distro's |
| 02:04 |
hoodedice |
I like Xubuntu. |
| 02:04 |
blaise |
but if I need something binary, I always look to arch |
| 02:04 |
katyusha |
the stable version of debian would be easier on a flash drive imo because it doesn't update much |
| 02:04 |
hoodedice |
I don't have enough time to experiment around now |
| 02:04 |
blaise |
I don't like any *untu distro's at all |
| 02:04 |
hoodedice |
I can understand |
| 02:05 |
katyusha |
well that ^ not trying to be an ass but I don't really trust canonical... |
| 02:05 |
blaise |
but, portableapps.com will let you install apps to the flash drive.. and can be ran from the usb drive.. |
| 02:05 |
hoodedice |
Nor do I, but Xubuntu's nice |
| 02:05 |
Peacock |
its a well known fact Mark Shuttlecock is the antichrist |
| 02:05 |
hoodedice |
Oh please |
| 02:05 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 02:05 |
blaise |
lmao |
| 02:05 |
katyusha |
Lennart Pothead |
| 02:05 |
hoodedice |
And I should listen to a random Peacock on the net |
| 02:05 |
Peacock |
Peacocks are the wisest of the birds |
| 02:06 |
hoodedice |
Indeed. |
| 02:07 |
hoodedice |
That's why random Pakistani drivers have seats covered with... |
| 02:07 |
hoodedice |
PEACOCK FEATHERS. |
| 02:07 |
blaise |
so, no one will connect to my server to test that it works externally? |
| 02:07 |
hoodedice |
I can't. Yet. |
| 02:07 |
hoodedice |
Post it in the forums |
| 02:07 |
blaise |
k |
| 02:08 |
hoodedice |
So... |
| 02:08 |
hoodedice |
Much... |
| 02:08 |
hoodedice |
Snow |
| 02:09 |
Peacock |
snow? its like -50c outside |
| 02:09 |
Peacock |
i went out for vitamins (beer) earlier, nasal hairs were frozen stiff |
| 02:09 |
blaise |
yeah, it's snowing pretty good here.... |
| 02:10 |
hoodedice |
And here I am |
| 02:11 |
hoodedice |
Thinking -10 C is damn cold. |
| 02:11 |
hoodedice |
XD |
| 02:11 |
hoodedice |
Well I did walk 2 blocks in it, so I'm a hero! |
| 02:11 |
Peacock |
please lol you wanna know cold, try Russia or Canada :P |
| 02:11 |
hoodedice |
*I'm awesome! |
| 02:11 |
hoodedice |
Cleveland is pretty much Canada |
| 02:11 |
hoodedice |
XD |
| 02:12 |
hoodedice |
Just Eerie seperating the two |
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| 02:12 |
hoodedice |
"Eerie" *Pfft* |
| 02:12 |
Peacock |
whats creepy about the separating the two? |
| 02:12 |
hoodedice |
Dude. Lame pun. |
| 02:12 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 02:12 |
Peacock |
well im pretty sure a few neurons froze on the way back lol |
| 02:13 |
hoodedice |
I still don't know who was drunk enough to name it that |
| 02:13 |
hoodedice |
Ah, my jokes do require |
| 02:13 |
hoodedice |
BRAINS. |
| 02:13 |
Peacock |
id like to meet the drunken idiot who started digging in the ice and decided to call it Canada XD |
| 02:13 |
hoodedice |
XD |
| 02:14 |
hoodedice |
I've seen enough 'Murica, and it's every bit of that lazy drunk slobbery country I thought it would be |
| 02:14 |
Miner_48er |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Canada |
| 02:15 |
hoodedice |
Canada > Kanata > Village |
| 02:15 |
hoodedice |
*Pfft* |
| 02:15 |
Peacock |
that i knew :P |
| 02:15 |
blaise |
no one cares to connect to my minetest server.. |
| 02:15 |
* blaise |
sobs profusely |
| 02:15 |
Peacock |
hell our own anglos can't even speak french, and we're officially a bilingual country, so never mind them having a clue about native languages XD |
| 02:15 |
hoodedice |
SHUT UP! |
| 02:16 |
* blaise |
eats hoodedice |
| 02:16 |
hoodedice |
We're discussing important stuf |
| 02:16 |
hoodedice |
So *ARRrghhh!!!!* |
| 02:16 |
VanessaE |
blaise: what's the address/port?] |
| 02:16 |
* blaise |
rolls his eyes so hard he cuts a backflip |
| 02:16 |
blaise |
VanessaE: midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org |
| 02:16 |
blaise |
VanessaE: I left the port default.. 30000 |
| 02:17 |
blaise |
I haven't installed any mods at all yet |
| 02:17 |
blaise |
I just wanted to make sure it works first |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
it works. |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
I'm in |
| 02:17 |
VanessaE |
and rather quickly too |
| 02:17 |
hoodedice |
OK peeps |
| 02:17 |
hoodedice |
G2G |
| 02:17 |
hoodedice |
VanessaE: Why was this version released so early? |
| 02:18 |
Peacock |
haven't checked my server in a while |
| 02:18 |
Peacock |
ah yes, lava! quelle surprise |
| 02:18 |
hoodedice |
lol |
| 02:19 |
VanessaE |
hoodedice: because random "must be new years release!!!!!111111one" |
| 02:19 |
VanessaE |
meanwhile they missed the new year's deadline |
| 02:19 |
Peacock |
well people did manage to take down one of the force fields trapping them lol |
| 02:19 |
hoodedice |
With bugs |
| 02:19 |
hoodedice |
OFC |
| 02:19 |
Peacock |
the ferengi love bugs, it must be a ferengi release :P |
| 02:19 |
hoodedice |
Bah. Minetest is indeed developed by a bunch of lunatics |
| 02:20 |
Peacock |
autism isn't the same as lunacy :P |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
blaise: https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory |
| 02:22 |
blaise |
awesome.. |
| 02:34 |
VanessaE |
blaise: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3587 ~~ https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7239 |
| 02:37 |
VanessaE |
(links posted here because minetest's clipboard is STILL busted on linux and NO I am not gonna install some random clipboard manager just to make a basic function like that work properly) |
| 02:37 |
Peacock |
lol dont worry, they havent fixed the failed to allocate player thing either :P |
| 02:38 |
Peacock |
they could release a new version every two days and we'd still have most of the same bugs in a year :P |
| 02:42 |
blaise |
eh, how to I select which game to use? |
| 02:42 |
blaise |
VanessaE: I'm using the test server? |
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| 02:42 |
VanessaE |
blaise: you have to edit world.mt |
| 02:42 |
VanessaE |
change that to point to the game you use |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
for minetest_game, make it say, gameid = minetest |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
put your mods in worlds/Your_World/worldmods |
| 02:43 |
blaise |
VanessaE: is that the equivelent of --gameid <variable> ? |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
yep, about the same thing |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
worlds/Your_World/world.mt --> gameid = minetest (or whatever) |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
worlds/Your_World/worldmods/homedecor (etc) |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
that makes a little more sense I guess :) |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
this is how I manage the games and mods on my servers. |
| 02:45 |
blaise |
don't I need to select minetest_st |
| 02:45 |
blaise |
don't I need to select minetest_game |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
| 02:45 |
blaise |
I mean? |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
nope |
| 02:45 |
blaise |
hrmm |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
if you change it in your world.mt, that becomes the world's default game to use |
| 02:45 |
blaise |
is minetest_game some kind of singleplayer campain? |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
assuming you have installed that game. |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
nope |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
minetest_game is the "real" game |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
it's the one you're supposed to use in production |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
"minimal" is really meant for development testing |
| 02:46 |
* blaise |
scratches head |
| 02:46 |
blaise |
ah.. |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
both are collections of Lua mods and such |
| 02:46 |
blaise |
am I using minimal? |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
pretty sure |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
it looked like it anyway |
| 02:46 |
blaise |
I guess I should fix that? |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
but lemme go in again |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
wait no |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
this ain't minimall |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
-l |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
it's just that you've got "the green guy" showing up sometimes |
| 02:47 |
blaise |
my world.mt says this |
| 02:47 |
blaise |
gameid = minetest |
| 02:47 |
blaise |
backend = sqlite3 |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
so you're fine |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
you're good to g |
| 02:47 |
VanessaE |
go* |
| 02:48 |
blaise |
shouldn't it say leveldb ? |
| 02:48 |
VanessaE |
bnope |
| 02:48 |
Peacock |
lol going around randomly killing all my players, so they're all paranoid now XD |
| 02:48 |
VanessaE |
leveldb only if you intentionally wanna use that for your backen |
| 02:48 |
VanessaE |
d |
| 02:48 |
VanessaE |
sqlite is the default because that's what everyone already has. |
| 02:48 |
Peacock |
i love big backends and i cannot lie |
| 02:48 |
blaise |
people here said it was faster |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
blaise: it is under some circumstances, but idk how to properly activate it. It might be a small matter of deleting map.sqlite and changing the backend setting there in world.mt |
| 02:49 |
VanessaE |
but make sure you compiled with leveldb support, of course |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
I say deleting map.sqlite because you said you were gonna reset the map anyway |
| 02:50 |
blaise |
meh, I'll just roll with what I got I guess |
| 02:50 |
blaise |
if I recompile with luajit support will it make the server faster? |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
it'll make your mods take less CPU |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
mapgen will run faster too |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
btw, |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
install moretrees ;) |
| 02:51 |
Peacock |
cpus, om nom nom |
| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
(needs the plantlife modpack. expect some mapgen lag) |
| 02:52 |
Hirato |
you just need to change the sqlite3 string to leveldb, and it's done |
| 02:52 |
blaise |
Hirato: do I have to convert it or something? |
| 02:52 |
blaise |
or will it detect and convert on its own? |
| 02:53 |
Hirato |
I think it will effectively reset the whole map |
| 02:53 |
Peacock |
well you just need to open it in emacs, learn some bash, and compile your own kernel, and you should be good to go :) |
| 02:54 |
blaise |
VanessaE: my server seems to be based in /var/lib/minetest/.minetest/ |
| 02:55 |
blaise |
VanessaE: after that there is var/lib/minetest/.minetest/worlds/world/ |
| 02:55 |
blaise |
VanessaE: do I need to put my mods in var/lib/minetest/.minetest/worlds/world/mods |
| 02:55 |
blaise |
? |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
if your minetest is global, then you put your stuff in the homedir of the user that runs minetest |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
for example, |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
my servers run as username "minetest: |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
my servers run as username "minetest" rather |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
so, |
| 02:57 |
blaise |
mine does too.. but there is no ~ for user minetest |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
and the servers are installed globally in /usr/local/ |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
so /home/minetest/.minetest/worlds etc etc |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
you run them as user "minetest"? |
| 02:57 |
blaise |
yes |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
ok, make a homedir for that user then |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
you'll need it |
| 02:58 |
blaise |
minetest 15746 12.1 3.9 144032 82412 ? Ssl 01:31 10:27 /usr/games/bin minetestserver --logfile /var/lib/minetest/minetest-server.log |
| 02:58 |
blaise |
hrmmmmm |
| 02:58 |
VanessaE |
don't put stuff under /var or /usr or whatever, those are *supposed* to be root-only |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
mkdir -p /home/minetest/.minetest; chown -R minetest /home/minetest/ |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
and move all your shit there where it belongs :) |
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| 03:01 |
Hirato |
I install mods as part of the package building process, so they're in /usr/share/minetest - alias, the mod viewer/configure dialog won't pick them up :/ |
| 03:01 |
Peacock |
lol and my friends asked why i left the city: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/video-shows-montreal-police-officer-threatening-panhandler-1.2482437 |
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| 03:04 |
VanessaE |
you really shouldn't put them there |
| 03:04 |
VanessaE |
less'n of course you install them from the debian repo |
| 03:04 |
blaise |
minetest:x:113:35:added by portage for minetest:/var/lib/minetest:/sbin/nologin |
| 03:04 |
blaise |
lmao |
| 03:04 |
VanessaE |
(some of mine are slated to go into the official repo soon, once they pass whatever quality controls are needed) |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
wait, strike that |
| 03:05 |
Hirato |
I install mods as part of the package building process, so they're in /usr/share/minetest - alias, the mod viewer/configure dialog won't pick them up :/ |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
pipeworks went in! |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
woo! |
| 03:05 |
* VanessaE |
dances a jig |
| 03:05 |
Hirato |
good job |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
http://packages.debian.org/jessie/minetest-mod-pipeworks |
| 03:06 |
kahrl |
<VanessaE> don't put stuff under /var or /usr or whatever, those are *supposed* to be root-only <-- that's not true |
| 03:06 |
kahrl |
my /var/www for example is owned by apache |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
well I suppose so |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
I always treated everything outside of /home as forbidden |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
old habits, etc |
| 03:08 |
Hirato |
oh... I had thought you got it into the official repo :( |
| 03:09 |
Hirato |
er. .you know what I mean: minetest_game |
| 03:11 |
Peacock |
ET phones /home |
| 03:11 |
Hirato |
there's no place like ~ |
| 03:12 |
Peacock |
unless you're homeless, in which case it's /tmp :P |
| 03:12 |
Hirato |
hardcore |
| 03:13 |
Peacock |
i saw "hardcore" a lot surfing for X-Files torrents, though they weren't the 90s sci-fi show i was looking for :P |
| 03:15 |
VanessaE |
Hirato: no, not in minetest_game, I mean into the official debian package repository |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
they approached me, asked for my blessing. I was quite happy to say yes :D |
| 03:16 |
blaise |
VanessaE: so, unified inventory is the best inventory mod? |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
blaise: imho, yes |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
others like inventory+ or whatever it's called |
| 03:16 |
Hirato |
it's quite laggy in a server roundtrip kind of way :P |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
it kinda depends on whether you need armor |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
UI doesn't show/work with it (yet) |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
I+ does I guess |
| 03:17 |
kaeza |
there's also modmenu |
| 03:17 |
VanessaE |
Hirato: latency isn't exactly equivalent to lag |
| 03:19 |
kaeza |
3d_armor supports it |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
Hirato: there's more to display to it takes longer to render |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
Hirato: but that's more of a client-side issue than a server issue |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
Hirato: as most of the time is spent waiting for the client's render-to-texture and extrude-for-wield code. |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
anything else will behave about the same as any other inventory mod |
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| 03:19 |
arkmabat |
I missed two versions of minetest! wow! Newest isn't going back to main screen though :( |
| 03:19 |
ShadowNinja |
UI has a API now, so armor can use it. |
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| 03:19 |
arkmabat |
I LOVE the modstore |
| 03:20 |
ShadowNinja |
0.4.9 is a bit buggy, my bug wasn't fixed before release, so I won't be updating. |
| 03:20 |
Hirato |
except i'm not talking about the rendering side of it at all :P |
| 03:20 |
Hirato |
but rather the whole "wait 3 seconds for actions to acknowledged on localhost" thing |
| 03:21 |
arkmabat |
Yeah, I never tried 4.8, might do that |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
all inventory mods will do that I guess |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
arkmabat: 0.4.8* |
| 03:21 |
arkmabat |
sorry, yes |
| 03:21 |
arkmabat |
does it have a modstore? |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
indeed so |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
modstore is still experimental though |
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| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
there are lots more mods on the forums and those are usually more up-to-date also |
| 03:22 |
blaise |
so I don't need minetest_game to run a server? |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
you'll probably need it for now |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
eventually you could develop your own game though |
| 03:23 |
* blaise |
scratches head |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
but most games for minetest servers are based on it. |
| 03:23 |
arkmabat |
Right, it was just a pain to hunt and figure out what version worked with what etc. Of course, monorail doesn't work in 0.9.8 dang |
| 03:23 |
blaise |
I thought it was for singleplayer only ? |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
minetest_game supplies most of the basic content such as dirt, trees, stone, coal, iron, etc etc etc |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
nope, servers and singleplayer |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
my game that runs on my Survival and Creative servers is based on it. |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
heavily modified. |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
(and modded :) ) |
| 03:24 |
arkmabat |
Could there be irc built-in to minetest |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
arkmabat: there's a mod for that. |
| 03:24 |
arkmabat |
! |
| 03:24 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3905 |
| 03:25 |
* NekoGloopMkIII |
curls up in VanessaE's lap |
| 03:25 |
arkmabat |
Cool, thanks. Props to everyone who works so hard to make this happen! |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
hey neko. |
| 03:26 |
VanessaE |
arkmabat: I use that mod on all five of my servers, to link them with three others through a common channel over on the Inchra network, so all eight servers basically share a chat. |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
arkmabat: bear in mind the IRC mod requires you to install an extra library, but this is easy to do (at least in linux) and there are helper scripts, plus ShadowNinja can help you get it going too |
| 03:27 |
arkmabat |
Nice |
| 03:27 |
Hirato |
which library? |
| 03:27 |
arkmabat |
Oh wow. Yeah, that might go over my head. |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
Hirato: luasocket I think it was? |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
it comes with the mod |
| 03:28 |
Hirato |
hmm, make ssense |
| 03:28 |
arkmabat |
Though I am beginning some beginners programming courses this semester. |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
arkmabat: don't worry, it's not hard to figure out |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
you just need to know how to compile, or maybe there's a precompiled lib you can just straight up install :) |
| 03:28 |
arkmabat |
That would be nice |
| 03:29 |
arkmabat |
It's not a big deal right now... but thanks |
| 03:30 |
blaise |
VanessaE: areas mesecons moreblocks moreores moretrees pipeworks plantlife player_texture technic unified_inventory are the mods I've installed so far |
| 03:31 |
blaise |
VanessaE: should I install any others? |
| 03:31 |
blaise |
anyone recommend any must have mods for minetest? |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
that's a good set. |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
mesecons and technic can cause runtime lag, watch your CPU usage with those |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
moretrees+plantlife will cause some mapgen lag but that's to be expected. |
| 03:32 |
arkmabat |
I love monorail when it works |
| 03:32 |
VanessaE |
the rest should be pretty benign. |
| 03:32 |
blaise |
farming, carts, and nature pack ? |
| 03:33 |
arkmabat |
0.4.8 Doesn't lock up under Win7 when I choose to go back to the menu, in-game. 0.4.9 does. |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
farming is part of minetest_game |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
nature_pack is outdated, don't use it |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
carts is okay |
| 03:33 |
Peacock |
so i can bang sheep from minetest_game? |
| 03:33 |
arkmabat |
NO |
| 03:33 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 03:34 |
Broam |
mod not found: sheep_bang |
| 03:36 |
blaise |
how about PilzAdam-mobs-c49cc47.zip ? |
| 03:36 |
arkmabat |
I like the new seed gen thing |
| 03:36 |
Peacock |
i dont think you can bang pilzadam's mobs either |
| 03:37 |
arkmabat |
Are there any seeds that are programmed to do something |
| 03:37 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Reenable -dev suffix 4d22977509 2014-01-02T19:36:13-08:00 http://git.io/KS6trg |
| 03:37 |
blaise |
is PilzAdam-mobs-c49cc47.zip good to have? |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
I use it on two of my servers |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
it works well enough |
| 03:37 |
Peacock |
well mobs in general slow the game down, depends on your hardware |
| 03:37 |
blaise |
is there better? |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
adds some life to an otherwise totally dead server :) |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
well, I use the git repo, https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs |
| 03:37 |
Peacock |
walking_dead mod :P reanimates dead players |
| 03:38 |
blaise |
lol |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
that zip looks like it's the current git HEAD though |
| 03:38 |
blaise |
dead_island mod ? |
| 03:38 |
Peacock |
tchernobyl mod = makes an area radioactive/decay :P |
| 03:38 |
arkmabat |
Cool |
| 03:41 |
blaise |
VanessaE: what about this list here? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3621 |
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| 03:41 |
arkmabat |
If you want dead_island mod, go to https://minecraft.net/classic/list |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
A few of those are out of date but that's a good list to start with, yes |
| 03:41 |
blaise |
are flowers needed ? |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
ignore: flat land generator, junglegrass, diamonds, mese tools |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
flowers comes with minetest_game |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
(ignore those ^^^ because they are outdated and no longer needed anyway) |
| 03:42 |
blaise |
armor ? |
| 03:43 |
VanessaE |
not sure about the armor mod |
| 03:43 |
VanessaE |
I don't use it |
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| 03:55 |
blaise |
okay, so I have another question.. |
| 03:56 |
blaise |
this gameid stuff |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
yexs? |
| 03:56 |
VanessaE |
yes? |
| 03:57 |
blaise |
if it's set to minetest, will it conflict with other servers using the same world name? |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
| 03:57 |
blaise |
how do I individualise my server.. |
| 03:57 |
blaise |
so that nothing will conflict |
| 03:57 |
blaise |
:) |
| 03:57 |
VanessaE |
just remember that if they all point to the same game, then they will all use that game. individualize them by using the worldmods directories. |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
each world has its own worldmods dir |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
so make your base game (minetest_game) exactly as basic as it needs to be to cover all your servers, then add to worldmods for each server/world that which each of them needs |
| 03:58 |
blaise |
I can host multiple worlds on a server?! |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
one server instance per world |
| 03:59 |
blaise |
k |
| 03:59 |
VanessaE |
but you can run multiple server instances at a time |
| 03:59 |
blaise |
hrmm..... |
| 03:59 |
VanessaE |
I run five instances on one system |
| 03:59 |
VanessaE |
each instance points to a different world |
| 03:59 |
WarrTab |
You can host multiple worlds on one machine, but need separate instances of the server process with different ports. |
| 03:59 |
VanessaE |
each world has a game it runs and a collection of worldmods |
| 03:59 |
blaise |
I don't think the gentoo init script accounts for that |
| 03:59 |
VanessaE |
two of them share a game (mine) |
| 04:00 |
blaise |
I suppose I could change the init script name to minetest-server-<world> |
| 04:00 |
blaise |
then the conf file would also have that extention.. |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
that's what I do |
| 04:00 |
blaise |
cool |
| 04:00 |
VanessaE |
each server runs its own world and its own conf, writes its own debug file, and loads its own set of worldmods |
| 04:01 |
blaise |
I'm going to roll my server over and see if the mods take place, and the leveldb conversion goes well |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
the only thing they have in common is the games, and then only two of the servers (the ones I just call "Survival" and "Creative") share a common game. |
| 04:01 |
Hirato |
if you have players, tell them to grab as much of their crap as possible before the shift :p |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
there's nothing to grab, it's a new map anyway |
| 04:02 |
Hirato |
haha, have fun then :p |
| 04:03 |
Hirato |
don't forget to build with -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1 |
| 04:04 |
blaise |
already done |
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blaise |
04:07:53: ERROR[EmergeThread0]: Blank block data in database (datastr.length() == 0) (3,0,-3) |
| 04:08 |
blaise |
:( |
| 04:08 |
VanessaE |
man I thought that was fixed. |
| 04:09 |
VanessaE |
what version of minetest is that? |
| 04:09 |
blaise |
04:07:54: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: Invalid data in MapBlock (3,1,-3) |
| 04:09 |
Hirato |
I haven't had any errors, just blocks that wouldn't load |
| 04:11 |
blaise |
0.4.8 |
| 04:11 |
blaise |
04:07:54: ERROR[main]: You can ignore this using [ignore_world_load_errors = true]. |
| 04:11 |
blaise |
do I need to put that somewhere ? |
| 04:12 |
Hirato |
oh, grab 0.4.9 or build form source :P |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
looks like 0.4.9 is a bit crashy |
| 04:13 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=124010#p124010 |
| 04:14 |
blaise |
should I wipe my world? |
| 04:14 |
blaise |
maybe I need to regenerate ? |
| 04:14 |
blaise |
hrmm.... |
| 04:14 |
VanessaE |
idk |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
regenerating will only delay that bug |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
it will happen again |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
(and it has, for me also) |
| 04:15 |
VanessaE |
it's since been fixed in git |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
so maybe 0.4.9 will fix it for you |
| 04:19 |
blaise |
:\ |
| 04:19 |
VanessaE |
it's worth a try |
| 04:20 |
VanessaE |
that glitch is a false bug |
| 04:20 |
VanessaE |
it's not supposed to crash the server |
| 04:26 |
blaise |
:( |
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* grondilu |
is trying to connect to VanessaE 's survival server, and is surprised by the time it takes for textures and stuff to load :/ |
| 04:28 |
Peacock |
a couple of hundred mods and a hires texpack will do that :P |
| 04:28 |
Hirato |
It's the dolphin conspiracy, I tel lyou! |
| 04:29 |
VanessaE |
grondilu: there are almost 7000 items to load |
| 04:29 |
grondilu |
maybe I should try your other server? It's just that I've never played survival in minetest so I wanted to try that. |
| 04:30 |
VanessaE |
(pipeworks just lost a bunch of weight over the past week, some 600 node defs alone) |
| 04:30 |
Peacock |
got rid of the on/off bit? |
| 04:30 |
VanessaE |
creative or survival will both take a while to load, make sure you have cURL support in your client. |
| 04:30 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: 6d facedir |
| 04:30 |
Peacock |
that helps too |
| 04:30 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: I am, however, working on a total rewrite of the water transport code. fee new_flow_logic branch |
| 04:30 |
VanessaE |
s/fee/see/ |
| 04:31 |
* grondilu |
is in |
| 04:31 |
Peacock |
well i rewrote it a couple times since the last one i sent ya :P so yeah |
| 04:31 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: pipes will now be based on water content, something akin to CFM or Joules. |
| 04:31 |
VanessaE |
(if you go with the water <-> electricity cognitive model) |
| 04:32 |
Peacock |
well the last rewrite i did had it storing pressure and the name of the liquid (transport any liquid) |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
so far the basics of flowing and transport are working |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
I'll be adding transport of "just any" liquid some time later on, maybe |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
but I got tired of oscillating pipes and stuff |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
so I rewrote it to use a self-balancing pressure-based algorithm instead |
| 04:32 |
Peacock |
its not tricky, if youre storing pressure or joules or whatever, just store the name of the source liquid and pass it on |
| 04:32 |
blaise |
I've created a minetest-0.4.9.ebuild for funtoo.. I had one that I made for gentoo already |
| 04:33 |
blaise |
are the client's intercompatable? |
| 04:33 |
VanessaE |
I know, just haven't gotten around to it yet. |
| 04:33 |
Peacock |
oscillating? |
| 04:33 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: yeah, if you build too many nearby loops, you could get the pipes to start oscillating on/off. |
| 04:34 |
VanessaE |
now they only turn "on" if their internal level is above a certain point, and only after the balancing algorithm has been run for the current set. |
| 04:34 |
VanessaE |
need to add some hysteresis though. |
| 04:34 |
Peacock |
yeah i remember that, had to fix that stuff a year ago |
| 04:36 |
Peacock |
though i called it the system feeding into itself, not oscillating, though i guess its the same thing |
| 04:36 |
Peacock |
ideally pipes would work really well with a couple of basic classes |
| 04:37 |
Peacock |
(lua) |
| 04:38 |
Peacock |
though lua classes are even more awkward than php classes so i never got around to it lol |
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| 04:42 |
blaise |
lol |
| 04:43 |
blaise |
I can't figure out how to enable luajit on gentoo to save my life |
| 04:43 |
blaise |
lmao |
| 04:45 |
kahrl |
blaise: add luajit to USE? |
| 04:45 |
blaise |
I tried it |
| 04:46 |
kahrl |
if that doesn't add it, the ebuild is broken |
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| 04:46 |
arkmabat |
Made an Ice Castle: http://imgur.com/MP2umP5 |
| 04:46 |
arkmabat |
And a fireplace inside: http://imgur.com/3VlmmG9 |
| 04:46 |
blaise |
kahrl: [ebuild U ] games-action/minetest-0.4.9::local [0.4.8::gentoo] USE="curl leveldb nls server sound truetype -dedicated (-luajit)" 0 kB |
| 04:47 |
blaise |
as you can see, it's in weirdo brackets.. |
| 04:47 |
arkmabat |
It surprized me at first, I stuck a torch on the wall and it started melting haha |
| 04:47 |
blaise |
and I dont even know what that means.. |
| 04:47 |
arkmabat |
The ice blocks |
| 04:47 |
kahrl |
blaise: that probably means something masked it |
| 04:47 |
blaise |
but it's not masked though.. |
| 04:48 |
blaise |
I have luajit-2.0.2 compiled and available |
| 04:48 |
kahrl |
not the package but the use flag |
| 04:48 |
* blaise |
raises a few eyebrows he didn't even know he had |
| 04:48 |
blaise |
hrmm |
| 04:48 |
blaise |
oah well |
| 04:49 |
blaise |
maybe one day it'll work |
| 04:49 |
blaise |
lmao |
| 04:49 |
kahrl |
27 Oct 2013; Julian Ospald <hasufell gentoo.org> package.use.mask: mask luajit useflag for games-action/minetest |
| 04:49 |
arkmabat |
The ice blocks melting was a good touch. |
| 04:50 |
VanessaE |
ShadowNinja: ^^^^ quote for the minetest.net main page :-) |
| 04:50 |
VanessaE |
[01-02 23:48] * blaise raises a few eyebrows he didn't even know he had |
| 04:51 |
kahrl |
blaise: mkdir -p /etc/portage/profile |
| 04:51 |
kahrl |
blaise: echo games-action/minetest -luajit >> /etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask |
| 04:52 |
VanessaE |
I thought there was a more graceful way to do that in gentoo? |
| 04:52 |
kahrl |
dunno |
| 04:52 |
VanessaE |
been too long since I last ran it |
| 04:53 |
VanessaE |
(the racing stripes and "Type-R" sticker faded ages ago ;) ) |
| 04:56 |
kahrl |
my emerge has been racing to update everything for the last 9 hours... |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
no matter how fast your PC is, it still takes three days to install gentoo :) |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
(thank G*d for distcc and ccache) |
| 04:57 |
blaise |
meh, can't get the patches right |
| 04:57 |
blaise |
beh |
| 04:57 |
blaise |
bleh |
| 04:57 |
blaise |
BLEH |
| 04:57 |
VanessaE |
BLEH!!!! |
| 04:58 |
Peacock |
in the days of XP, linux was superior :P |
| 04:58 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: ever used gentoo? |
| 04:58 |
Peacock |
the economy didn't suck, we had more freedoms.... its like the world is upside down now :P |
| 04:59 |
Peacock |
now windows is more stable, there are fewer jobs, and we have about as many rights as communist russia lol |
| 05:00 |
Peacock |
im looking for evil spock hoping he's willing to switch :P |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
"Captain Kirk, I shall consider it." |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
if only. |
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| 05:03 |
Peacock |
yeah seriously, internet at 56K might have been slow, but we had it better :P |
| 05:03 |
blaise |
I've never had a windows install other than win2k server or win3.11fwg last longer than a year.. |
| 05:03 |
VanessaE |
now get off your lawn? |
| 05:04 |
Peacock |
well with windows there's malware forcing you to reinstall at regular intervals, with linux, there are system updates forcing you to reinstall at regular intervals :P |
| 05:05 |
Peacock |
i predict that in ten years we'll all be running operating systems from VMs lol |
| 05:05 |
VanessaE |
byte your tongue |
| 05:05 |
Peacock |
well its already started with android :P resistance is futile |
| 05:06 |
blaise |
I'm gonna try and compile minetest-0.4.9 without the 4 patches.. |
| 05:06 |
blaise |
they need to be redone... |
| 05:06 |
blaise |
and I don't have the patience or the time to mess with it right now |
| 05:07 |
* blaise |
comments the patch lines out of the ebuild and creates a manifest |
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| 05:09 |
blaise |
nope, it's not gonna work |
| 05:10 |
Peacock |
i could have told you that before even knowing what the question was :P |
| 05:10 |
Ubuntu-Tester |
Is the Nether workin for any 1 or is it 1 of those bugged mods? |
| 05:10 |
Peacock |
pilzadam's nether regions? |
| 05:11 |
blaise |
Peacock: you don't even know what I'm talking about. |
| 05:11 |
blaise |
the patches I speak of are gentoo specific. |
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| 05:12 |
Peacock |
well of course, no one uses gentoo, trisquel is the future, and i for one, hail our new ascii-pron overlords |
| 05:13 |
blaise |
how do I regenerate the world? |
| 05:13 |
Peacock |
delete it |
| 05:15 |
us_0gb |
Peacock: You'd be more convincing if the channel wasn't logged. |
| 05:15 |
Peacock |
well that's half the fun isn't it? :P |
| 05:15 |
us_0gb |
Yeah, I suppose so. |
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| 05:16 |
us_0gb |
Seriously though, Trisquel does have png/jpeg/<whatever> capabilities. No need for ASCII. |
| 05:17 |
blaise |
how do I specify what v to generate? |
| 05:17 |
Peacock |
aside, without flash the only JO material you got is pictures :P |
| 05:17 |
us_0gb |
blaise: You can't regenerate only part of the world. It's the whole world or none of it. |
| 05:17 |
blaise |
so how do I regenerate the whole world ? |
| 05:17 |
us_0gb |
Peacock: What is "JO"? |
| 05:18 |
Peacock |
deer lord, i cant explain that here lol |
| 05:18 |
us_0gb |
blaise: Delete the world's map.sqlite file. |
| 05:19 |
blaise |
us_0gb: what if I'm using leveldb ? |
| 05:19 |
us_0gb |
blaise: Delete the map file. I don't know what it's called for LevelDB. |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
for leveldb, it's a folder |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
level.dat or something |
| 05:21 |
blaise |
hrmmm |
| 05:21 |
Peacock |
level1.db,level2.db,etc.., doublejepoardy.db :P |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE |
I forget what, only wsaw it once |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE |
-w |
| 05:21 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 05:21 |
us_0gb |
Peacock: You could always get a DVD. |
| 05:21 |
us_0gb |
We do have DVD-cracking software. |
| 05:21 |
blaise |
do I need something in world.mt to specify what version to generate? v7 ? |
| 05:22 |
blaise |
is there v8 or v9 ? |
| 05:22 |
Peacock |
theres libdvdcss i think |
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| 05:22 |
Peacock |
though i think you know stallmans' views on that |
| 05:22 |
VanessaE |
blaise: no, and stick with mg v6 |
| 05:22 |
blaise |
k |
| 05:22 |
VanessaE |
v7 is not production ready |
| 05:22 |
VanessaE |
and indev is v6 with lots of extra stuff added |
| 05:22 |
Peacock |
i cant imagine an opensource girlfriend though, whatever you do to her, you'd have to let others do the same :/ |
| 05:23 |
VanessaE |
I think |
| 05:23 |
* blaise |
facepalms |
| 05:23 |
blaise |
05:22:55: ERROR[main]: Subgame [] could not be found. |
| 05:23 |
blaise |
I broke it |
| 05:23 |
VanessaE |
what'd you use for the gameid field? |
| 05:24 |
blaise |
minetest |
| 05:24 |
us_0gb |
Peacock: I don't know his thoughts on that, but I'm not sure I care. I know my own thoughts on it. The man is only human, you know. |
| 05:25 |
Peacock |
we seem to be a minority on that :P |
| 05:25 |
us_0gb |
Peacock: I've never had a girlfriend, but I don't think it works that way. |
| 05:25 |
Peacock |
depends, if we were in the 70s, it might :P |
| 05:26 |
us_0gb |
Yeah, maybe in the 70s. |
| 05:26 |
VanessaE |
blaise: odd.... |
| 05:26 |
blaise |
yeah..... |
| 05:27 |
Peacock |
sucks i was born five years too late for the 70s lol |
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| 05:27 |
us_0gb |
blaise: Is minetest_game installed? If you deleted the file specifying a game, it will default to minetest_game. |
| 05:27 |
katyusha |
goodnight all |
| 05:28 |
Peacock |
NoooooooooooooooO! |
| 05:28 |
* blaise |
facepalms |
| 05:28 |
blaise |
lmao |
| 05:28 |
us_0gb |
katyusha: Good night. |
| 05:28 |
katyusha |
:-) |
| 05:28 |
us_0gb |
blaise: It's world.mt. |
| 05:29 |
Peacock |
.mt for Moo Testament, the bible of cow |
| 05:29 |
us_0gb |
Ah, I was unaware of that. |
| 05:29 |
us_0gb |
I wondered what it stood for. |
| 05:30 |
Peacock |
you'd think the gov't would hire me for disinformation lol |
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| 05:35 |
blaise |
k, I just wiped the entire world dir |
| 05:35 |
blaise |
started from scratch |
| 05:35 |
blaise |
it seems to be working |
| 05:36 |
blaise |
although.. quite a few lines were added to my world.mt http://bpaste.net/show/164153/ |
| 05:37 |
blaise |
should all those be set to false like they are? |
| 05:37 |
Peacock |
ugh, that load_mod crap lol |
| 05:38 |
us_0gb |
Yeah, I'm not a fan of that either. It would be nice if it only had it for modules that WERE loaded, and just assumed false for any not listed. |
| 05:38 |
blaise |
so, uhrm... do I need to set all those to true ? |
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| 05:38 |
blaise |
what's up with all that... |
| 05:39 |
us_0gb |
blaise: They only need to be set to true if you wont them active in that world. |
| 05:39 |
blaise |
ah.. |
| 05:39 |
Peacock |
id simply suggest creating a new world with the same seed |
| 05:39 |
blaise |
seed = world.mt ? |
| 05:39 |
us_0gb |
WHat's up with it is that the game decides to explicitly state that all of those modules are not to be loaded. |
| 05:39 |
blaise |
btw, I identifyed the problem being leveldb |
| 05:40 |
us_0gb |
I actually use a custom subgame for each world that I want added modules in to avoid that mess. |
| 05:40 |
blaise |
us_0gb: I didn't have that problem in singleplayer mode.... |
| 05:40 |
Peacock |
ever since they added and removed that common mods shit the whole mod system has been overly complicated :P |
| 05:40 |
us_0gb |
blaise: That's odd. I thought it did it in singleplayer mode as well. |
| 05:40 |
blaise |
nah, they're all turned on in singleplayer |
| 05:40 |
us_0gb |
Huh. Good to know. |
| 05:40 |
blaise |
I didn't mess with anything.. just put the stuff in the mods folder |
| 05:42 |
us_0gb |
SO the game is being inconsistent, treating singleplayer mode as special. Lovely. |
| 05:42 |
us_0gb |
*So |
| 05:45 |
blaise |
05:44:58: ACTION[main]: WARNING: Mod name conflict detected: "unified_inventory" |
| 05:46 |
blaise |
05:44:58: ACTION[main]: Will not load: /var/lib/minetest/.minetest/mods/technic/unified_inventory |
| 05:46 |
blaise |
05:44:58: ACTION[main]: Overridden by: /var/lib/minetest/.minetest/mods/unified_inventory |
| 05:46 |
blaise |
so uh... |
| 05:46 |
blaise |
technic already has unified_inventory ? |
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| 05:47 |
us_0gb |
RealBadAngel decided to bundle a bunch of unrelated things. So short answer, yes. |
| 05:47 |
blaise |
nice |
| 05:47 |
blaise |
lmao |
| 05:47 |
blaise |
and armor requires inventory+ ? |
| 05:48 |
us_0gb |
I think so, yes. |
| 05:48 |
us_0gb |
Inventory_plus isn't compatible with unified_inventory. |
| 05:48 |
blaise |
that sucks |
| 05:48 |
blaise |
05:48:02: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: .../lib/minetest/.minetest/mods/player_texture/init.lua:2: attempt to concatenate a nil value |
| 05:49 |
blaise |
:`( |
| 05:49 |
us_0gb |
blaise: Pastebin your coppy of that file. |
| 05:49 |
us_0gb |
*copy |
| 05:49 |
blaise |
guess I need a texture for my player eh? |
| 05:49 |
blaise |
k, just a sec |
| 05:50 |
us_0gb |
blaise: You shouldn't need one. |
| 05:50 |
blaise |
http://bpaste.net/show/164155/ |
| 05:51 |
blaise |
so, I guess player_texture is b0rk |
| 05:52 |
us_0gb |
blaise: Rename the "player_texture" directory "player_textures". |
| 05:52 |
us_0gb |
That should fix it. |
| 05:53 |
blaise |
I have no player_texture or player_textures |
| 05:53 |
blaise |
where is it supposed to be? |
| 05:53 |
blaise |
same dir as world.mt ? |
| 05:53 |
blaise |
oh wait |
| 05:54 |
blaise |
you mean the mod dir |
| 05:54 |
us_0gb |
Yeah, that. |
| 05:54 |
us_0gb |
Sorry for not being clear. |
| 05:55 |
VanessaE |
player_textures is a mod, so it goes where you put e.g. moreores, homedecor and the like |
| 05:59 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Merge pull request #28 from cheapie/master https://gi 2014-01-02T21:58:30-08:00 http://git.io/IOCDJQ |
| 05:59 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: cheapie commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Added compatibility with my version of creative_inventory. https://gi 2014-01-02T20:17:25-08:00 http://git.io/T0uRyQ |
| 06:00 |
blaise |
what's the best texture pack? |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE |
... |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE |
as if you had to ask that when I'm around ;) |
| 06:00 |
VanessaE |
actually it depends on the style you like the best |
| 06:01 |
blaise |
VanessaE: did you make one? |
| 06:01 |
VanessaE |
blaise: I develop and maintain HDX: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1583 |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
a lot of people like Sphax BDCraft, which is a sort of cartoonish one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5427 |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
some folks like Minetoon: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=402 |
| 06:02 |
Peacock |
some folks like that really low res crap that gives headaches lol (ill never figure that out) :P |
| 06:02 |
VanessaE |
Misa's pack is popular: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=274 |
| 06:03 |
blaise |
ah, nice |
| 06:03 |
blaise |
VanessaE: will your texture pack bring my computer to a crawl ? |
| 06:03 |
blaise |
lmao |
| 06:03 |
VanessaE |
blaise: only if you use a size that's too big for your hardware to tolerate |
| 06:03 |
VanessaE |
mine runs fine with the 256px size. |
| 06:04 |
VanessaE |
other folks might do best with the 64px size |
| 06:04 |
VanessaE |
etc. |
| 06:04 |
Peacock |
bigger is better </black man> |
| 06:04 |
blaise |
lol |
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| 06:11 |
blaise |
omg I'm gonna die |
| 06:11 |
blaise |
I need weapons and/or shelter |
| 06:13 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 06:13 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 06:13 |
VanessaE |
well so build one :) |
| 06:15 |
us_0gb |
WHat is treeprop.png? |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE |
used with the old farmesh |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE |
puts fake trees on the landscape where the real ones were |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE |
but that's long since been removed from the engine. |
| 06:16 |
VanessaE |
I guess the png is obsolete :) |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE |
well at least for the 0.4.x serie |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE |
+s |
| 06:17 |
us_0gb |
So it detected hardcoded nodes then? I'm glad that was removed. |
| 06:17 |
VanessaE |
0.3.x and -classic probably use it though |
| 06:23 |
us_0gb |
Quick question. I'm building a new game, and will be using the media from the current games to provide familiarity. Should I keep the image names the same (to provide compatibility with minetest_game texture packs) or rename them to match the modules they are being moved to ("<module>_<image name>.png", to avoid file name clashes with minetest_game modules)? |
| 06:25 |
VanessaE |
keep the names the same as they are now. |
| 06:25 |
VanessaE |
as long as they serve the same *purpose* |
| 06:25 |
us_0gb |
Okay. Thanks! |
| 06:26 |
Peacock |
modules or mods? |
| 06:26 |
us_0gb |
Modules. I suppose "mods" might be short for such. |
| 06:26 |
VanessaE |
I mean, if the front of a furnace still uses default_furnace_front.png (and _front_active.png) then that's fine, for example, but don't go using default_wood.png to represent a special kind of wood other than the "default" :) |
| 06:27 |
Peacock |
my_special_wood.png :P |
| 06:27 |
Peacock |
can't post that here though :P |
| 06:28 |
us_0gb |
VanessaE: Okay, got it. |
| 06:28 |
kahrl |
we should make it so that a node can have different textures depending on time of day |
| 06:28 |
kahrl |
so we could have default_evening_wood.png and ...nevermind |
| 06:28 |
VanessaE |
...... |
| 06:28 |
VanessaE |
<joke killer> well there was a branch that could do exactly that. </joke killer> |
| 06:28 |
us_0gb |
Legacy has no README file ... no image copyright/license information .... |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
this one, I thinkL https://github.com/celeron55/minetest/tree/meta_set_nodedef |
| 06:29 |
VanessaE |
old as shit, now, though |
| 06:29 |
kahrl |
heh |
| 06:33 |
blaise |
I can't seem to craft a damn thing.. |
| 06:34 |
VanessaE |
that's because there aren't any damn things in the default game |
| 06:34 |
VanessaE |
you need a mod for that too |
| 06:34 |
VanessaE |
what mod was it that had damn things? nether wasn't it? |
| 06:34 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 06:35 |
blaise |
what can I make with dirt? |
| 06:35 |
VanessaE |
nothing |
| 06:35 |
VanessaE |
the usesdirt mod adds some stuff |
| 06:35 |
us_0gb |
A house. |
| 06:35 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4129 |
| 06:35 |
blaise |
a mud hut? |
| 06:35 |
blaise |
lmao |
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| 06:38 |
Peacock |
jokes aside, dynamic node properties would rock :P |
| 06:38 |
VanessaE |
indeed they would |
| 06:40 |
blaise |
so, I've got a pretty old laptop.. it's got one of these 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS690M [Radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270] |
| 06:40 |
Peacock |
though that's right up there with multicultural lights and different node shapes:P |
| 06:40 |
blaise |
VanessaE: what would you recommend to use with your texture pack? |
| 06:42 |
us_0gb |
blaise: That sounds like what I've got, and I get about three frames per second even with 16px textures. |
| 06:42 |
VanessaE |
I've used an old 9200M with my 64px pack |
| 06:42 |
VanessaE |
it was playable. |
| 06:42 |
VanessaE |
you just have to try it, |
| 06:42 |
VanessaE |
either it works or it doesn't :) |
| 06:43 |
blaise |
hrmm |
| 06:43 |
VanessaE |
start with the 64px size and see how it behaves, and if you like it |
| 06:44 |
VanessaE |
try a larger or smaller size according to your average performance |
| 06:44 |
Peacock |
thats what she said |
| 06:44 |
Peacock |
:P |
| 06:44 |
VanessaE |
... |
| 06:44 |
blaise |
Wanesville eh? |
| 06:44 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 06:45 |
blaise |
I spent 20 years in Hendersonville.. :) |
| 06:45 |
Peacock |
a prison? |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE |
Asheville and Hendersonville are getting hammered right now |
| 06:45 |
blaise |
I miss NC pretty bad.. |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: a nearby city :P |
| 06:45 |
blaise |
VanessaE: weather? |
| 06:45 |
VanessaE |
blaise: yeah, winter storm warning + high winds |
| 06:46 |
blaise |
I'm up in Frederick, MD atm.. we got about a foot of snow in the last 2-3 hours |
| 06:46 |
Peacock |
current forecast here: Snowing, -37c :/ |
| 06:46 |
VanessaE |
not as bad as the northeast. I guess New York is getting their asses handed to them right about now |
| 06:46 |
blaise |
yeah, pretty much.. |
| 06:46 |
VanessaE |
exactly |
| 06:47 |
Peacock |
sunday and saturday ittl be back to -6c |
| 06:47 |
Peacock |
and then.. back down to -23c lol |
| 06:47 |
VanessaE |
jeez |
| 06:48 |
Peacock |
im worried about my older LCD screen, it keeps making those plastic cracky sounds lol |
| 06:48 |
VanessaE |
it's -8°C here at the moment |
| 06:48 |
VanessaE |
expected to get down to around -17 in a fe days |
| 06:48 |
Peacock |
not so bad :P |
| 06:48 |
VanessaE |
few* |
| 06:48 |
Peacock |
at -37c i feel the hairs of my beard freeze lol |
| 06:48 |
VanessaE |
oy |
| 06:49 |
Peacock |
i dont shave when its that cold out lol i need all the help i can get |
| 06:49 |
VanessaE |
I'll stay down here in the south |
| 06:49 |
Peacock |
yeah im kinda pissed off at the king of france for not holding onto new france lol |
| 06:49 |
VanessaE |
I'm a witch most of the year anyway, abe would tell you, but I don't care to know what a witch's titties feel like :P |
| 06:49 |
Peacock |
otherwise i'd be in the south too :P |
| 06:50 |
blaise |
VanessaE: pardon, where is this minetest/data located? |
| 06:50 |
Peacock |
oh well in quebec you could cut diamonds with nipples at these temps :P |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
blaise: there isn't one - that's old information from the 0.3.x days |
| 06:50 |
blaise |
o.O |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
texture packs go in minetestfolder/textures |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
e.g. ~/.minetest/textures/HDX-256px |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
and the like |
| 06:50 |
blaise |
thanks |
| 06:51 |
blaise |
so I can git clone https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-64 |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 06:51 |
blaise |
inside the textures dir ? |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
that'll work just fine |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
I keep them all in a separate dir and symlink to them |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
either way works |
| 06:53 |
blaise |
and then I cd ~/.minetest/textures && ln -s hdx-64 all |
| 06:53 |
* blaise |
pokes VanessaE |
| 06:54 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 06:54 |
VanessaE |
just leave the folder name as-is |
| 06:54 |
VanessaE |
~/.minetest/textures/hdx-64 |
| 06:54 |
blaise |
ah, nice |
| 06:54 |
VanessaE |
select it in the menyu |
| 06:54 |
VanessaE |
menu* |
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blaise |
so I can snag several and hop around till I find one I'm comfortable with |
| 06:55 |
blaise |
very nice |
| 06:55 |
blaise |
my server load is extremely low btw |
| 06:56 |
VanessaE |
exactly |
| 06:56 |
blaise |
it's an old dual athlon mp 2600+ with a HIS IceQ Radeon HD 4670 |
| 06:58 |
blaise |
wow, the hdx-64 is a pretty big improvement... |
| 07:03 |
VanessaE |
lemme guess? better fps with HDX than default? |
| 07:06 |
blaise |
yeah.. |
| 07:06 |
VanessaE |
you're not the first person to have that happen |
| 07:06 |
VanessaE |
and idk how that works, either |
| 07:06 |
VanessaE |
but, I won't complain :) |
| 07:07 |
us_0gb |
Hmm. THat is intriguing. |
| 07:14 |
Peacock |
"Searching the Internet For Evidence of Time Travelers" http://beta.slashdot.org/story/196371 |
| 07:15 |
VanessaE |
beta? |
| 07:15 |
VanessaE |
BETA? |
| 07:15 |
VanessaE |
BETA?!? |
| 07:15 |
VanessaE |
YOU should be ashamed! |
| 07:15 |
VanessaE |
HERETIC! |
| 07:15 |
VanessaE |
BURN HIM! |
| 07:15 |
Peacock |
im not a member :P |
| 07:16 |
blaise |
kik |
| 07:16 |
VanessaE |
s/beta/classic/ |
| 07:16 |
VanessaE |
and all is right with the world :) |
| 07:16 |
blaise |
s/kik/lol/ |
| 07:16 |
blaise |
sed |
| 07:16 |
Peacock |
actually it kinda worries me we haven't seen time travelers - either they're really good at hiding, or we nuke ourselves before we ever reach the ability :P |
| 07:17 |
Peacock |
as for the beta shit, i can't get out of it, i tried :P |
| 07:17 |
blaise |
I can't find any shrubs to save my life... |
| 07:18 |
blaise |
I think I might add the fireplace mod |
| 07:18 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: so create an account, sign in, and kiss beta good bye |
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| 07:20 |
Peacock |
yeah, until beta becomes default :P |
| 07:21 |
Peacock |
besides, every other /. member is onpon reincarnated lol |
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| 07:22 |
Peacock |
BIll Gates gave money to charity? "its obvious a proprietary plot to destroy linux!" :p |
| 07:22 |
Peacock |
*obviously |
| 07:27 |
blaise |
what ever |
| 07:27 |
blaise |
the ndis stack for windows networking was directly stolen from bsd |
| 07:27 |
Peacock |
yet bsd still sucks (tried it the other day :P) |
| 07:28 |
blaise |
openbsd is pretty good for personal computing.. freebsd isn't for the light hearted.. |
| 07:28 |
blaise |
netbsd is a damn fine production platform. |
| 07:28 |
Peacock |
any system that calls a CLI a "liveCD" is a fail in my books :P |
| 07:29 |
blaise |
o.O |
| 07:29 |
blaise |
O.o |
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October21 |
the drive for bsd ... |
| 07:30 |
blaise |
oh, similar to /dev/sr0 |
| 07:30 |
Peacock |
though its pretty clear there will never be a "year of the linux desktop", the minute ubuntu got too popular RMS started creating division, you'd almost think he was the paid shill :P |
| 07:30 |
blaise |
lol |
| 07:31 |
Peacock |
well it wouldn't be too different from what happened to the hippy movements :P |
| 07:33 |
blaise |
I can't seem to craft a wooden door... :\ |
| 07:33 |
blaise |
I have plenty of tree |
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| 07:33 |
blaise |
but the texture looks different |
| 07:33 |
blaise |
even though they are called the same |
| 07:33 |
blaise |
"Tree" |
| 07:33 |
blaise |
one is square while the other is round.. |
| 07:34 |
Peacock |
i think you need the square one |
| 07:37 |
blaise |
I tried that already |
| 07:37 |
blaise |
and I can't find the round ones that don't have white centers.. |
| 07:47 |
us_0gb |
"[23:28:51] <Peacock> any system that calls a CLI a "liveCD" is a fail in my books :P" - Agreed. |
| 07:48 |
Peacock |
i was really disappointed though :P heard alot of good things about freebsd, but if i cant bootin to a livesession to fix shit, forget it lol |
| 07:49 |
us_0gb |
I installed FreeBSD, and it didn't even have a desktop. THat was disappointing. I then tried to install PC-BSD, but it wouldn't even install. |
| 07:49 |
Peacock |
jesus christ, i still remember the 80's, no need to go back there lol |
| 07:50 |
us_0gb |
What happened in the 80s? |
| 07:50 |
Peacock |
michael jackson became a white woman and they were over lol |
| 07:50 |
us_0gb |
Ah. I see. |
| 07:50 |
Peacock |
also, edward scissorhands, though that might be early 90s |
| 07:51 |
Peacock |
it was back when the SImpsons were still funny, that much i know :P |
| 07:51 |
us_0gb |
THey were ever funny? I totally missed it. |
| 07:52 |
us_0gb |
Though to be honest, I only watched one episode, and it was only because we were required to in a class in high school. |
| 07:52 |
us_0gb |
Maybe I just wasn't shown a good one. |
| 07:52 |
Peacock |
yeah the first 5-6 seasons were funny, not the 20 that followed |
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| 07:53 |
Peacock |
the show kinda jumped the shark when skinners was revealed to be an imposter |
| 07:54 |
blaise |
how long will a torch burn? |
| 07:55 |
October21 |
maybe no end |
| 07:55 |
us_0gb |
In a furnace? Not long. Out of a furnace, it will stay lit forever. |
| 07:56 |
blaise |
nice |
| 07:56 |
blaise |
I can't believe I can't make a wooden door with wood planks |
| 07:56 |
blaise |
:\ |
| 07:57 |
* blaise |
huddles up to his torch inside his meager wooden shanti |
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us_0gb |
Doors should be craftable. What subgame are you using? Minetest_game? Minimal? |
| 07:58 |
blaise |
minetest_game |
| 07:58 |
blaise |
it wants 6 tree's |
| 07:59 |
VanessaE |
not trees |
| 07:59 |
VanessaE |
wood planks |
| 07:59 |
VanessaE |
craft tree -> wood -> x6 -> dor |
| 07:59 |
blaise |
but the tree's I find all are white in the center with dark bark.. and it wants all dark |
| 07:59 |
VanessaE |
door* |
| 07:59 |
blaise |
k, thanks |
| 07:59 |
VanessaE |
1 tree becomes 4 wooden planks |
| 07:59 |
VanessaE |
use 6 of those to make a door |
| 08:01 |
nore |
Hi all |
| 08:01 |
VanessaE |
hey nore |
| 08:01 |
nore |
have you seen what the bug was that caused areas not to be possible to see? |
| 08:02 |
VanessaE |
I have not. I was able to pull a listing just fine? |
| 08:02 |
Peacock |
yeah i fixed that, i plugged the computer in |
| 08:02 |
VanessaE |
however, |
| 08:02 |
VanessaE |
I see that the HUD is not working |
| 08:02 |
VanessaE |
strange |
| 08:08 |
nore |
any wiki moderator here? http://wiki.minetest.net/index.php?title=Talk:Main_Page&curid=499&diff=2063&oldid=2062 |
| 08:09 |
pitriss |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=124156#p124156 //probably spam |
| 08:09 |
nore |
indeed |
| 08:12 |
VanessaE |
deleted the spammy one |
| 08:12 |
VanessaE |
I'll let the other one stand |
| 08:13 |
VanessaE |
*checks the wiki* |
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VanessaE |
fixed. |
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Robby |
I must say, thanks for this wonderful game, though it needs some polishing still, it is very addictive |
| 08:56 |
Robby |
*very* |
| 08:57 |
VanessaE |
glad you like it :) |
| 08:57 |
Robby |
never played Minecraft before but was looking for a free OSS version, took me a long while to find one |
| 08:57 |
Robby |
(this one) |
| 08:57 |
Robby |
yea :D |
| 08:57 |
Robby |
just discovered this project a couple of days ago |
| 08:58 |
Robby |
I setup a vanilla server for me and some friends, we been playing almost all night now |
| 08:58 |
Robby |
though the Pentium 4 server I'm running this on is struggling with load at times |
| 08:59 |
VanessaE |
yeah it can be a little slow at times, but the engine is always improving |
| 08:59 |
Robby |
(but new and better machine coming soon, this box has served me well but now 2013..its showing its age) |
| 08:59 |
Robby |
:) |
| 09:00 |
Robby |
I need to look into some mods, which are the best ones and which are still maintained/updated |
| 09:00 |
Robby |
like 'areas' |
| 09:00 |
Robby |
and a sethome mod which I saw somewhere |
| 09:00 |
VanessaE |
oh that's a pretty big question |
| 09:00 |
VanessaE |
there are lots and lots of mods |
| 09:01 |
Robby |
yeah, I've seen it on the forum and the website |
| 09:01 |
VanessaE |
better you should look in the Mod Releases section of the Minetest forum |
| 09:01 |
Robby |
yeah |
| 09:01 |
VanessaE |
pretty much everything there should still be active, or at least still works |
| 09:01 |
Robby |
but for now I couldn't stop playing so mods had to wait :p |
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| 09:02 |
Robby |
like a friend said, 'its like Lego all over again' |
| 09:02 |
Robby |
:P |
| 09:02 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 09:02 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 09:03 |
October21 |
VanessaE: the new version is base on irrlicht-1.8.1 ? |
| 09:03 |
VanessaE |
October21: no but it can use it. |
| 09:03 |
VanessaE |
it'll work with 1.7.3 and up |
| 09:03 |
Robby |
yeah, it can, I compiled my server from git, using irrlicht 1.8.1 |
| 09:03 |
Robby |
works fine |
| 09:04 |
October21 |
i'm using #! (debian 7), there is 1.7.3 on debian 7 |
| 09:04 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: 1.7.2 works too, I'm sure MT works with Irrlicht 1.7.x -- 1.9 (git) |
| 09:05 |
VanessaE |
sfan5: you sure about 1.7.2? I thought I'd one or two reports of obscure glitches with that one |
| 09:05 |
sfan5 |
VanessaE: all my windows builds use 1.7.2 |
| 09:05 |
sfan5 |
I recently tried 1.8 but compile errors all over the place |
| 09:06 |
VanessaE |
huh |
| 09:06 |
VanessaE |
well that's windows :) |
| 09:06 |
October21 |
it ok with linux |
| 09:06 |
VanessaE |
yu |
| 09:06 |
VanessaE |
p |
| 09:09 |
October21 |
There are some play the MT in China |
| 09:10 |
Hirato |
speaking of compiler issues, why won't you guys fix this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1051 :( |
| 09:10 |
sfan5 |
Hirato: I'll do that right now |
| 09:10 |
Hirato |
all that has to be done is commenting out that one line, or hiding it behind a -DENBALE_GLES var or something |
| 09:10 |
Hirato |
<3 |
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| 09:17 |
VanessaE |
http://www.dietdoctor.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Bacon560.jpg |
| 09:18 |
VanessaE |
ain't it the truth |
| 09:21 |
sfan5 |
Hirato: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1081 |
| 09:26 |
us_0gb |
VanessaE: That's quite amusing, but I'm going to have to disagree. |
| 09:26 |
VanessaE |
why> |
| 09:28 |
us_0gb |
Bacon is fatty and bad for us. I argue that it is us bacon lovers who are wrong, if it is even possible to have a right or wrong on such a topic. |
| 09:28 |
VanessaE |
fat is not bad for you |
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| 09:28 |
sfan5 |
only too much is bad for you |
| 09:28 |
VanessaE |
carbs is bad for you |
| 09:28 |
VanessaE |
are8 |
| 09:29 |
VanessaE |
carbs -> insulin response -> calories stored into adipose tissue aka body fat |
| 09:29 |
VanessaE |
fat -> ...erm... nothing special happens |
| 09:29 |
zash |
everything is bad for you |
| 09:29 |
us_0gb |
Okay, no bread and no fatty meats then. |
| 09:29 |
us_0gb |
Okay, no anything. |
| 09:29 |
us_0gb |
Everyone starves. |
| 09:29 |
VanessaE |
no bread, eat all the fatty meat you want, just avoid omega 6. |
| 09:29 |
VanessaE |
and for G*d sakes avoid sugar. |
| 09:30 |
VanessaE |
it's really not that hard :) |
| 09:30 |
us_0gb |
Sugar is in everything though. |
| 09:30 |
VanessaE |
strange |
| 09:30 |
VanessaE |
*looks at meal she's eating* |
| 09:30 |
VanessaE |
doesn't seem to be any in here |
| 09:30 |
VanessaE |
cheese, mayo, onion powder, chicken. |
| 09:30 |
us_0gb |
Is it in meat? I'm not sure. It is in fruits and vegetables though. |
| 09:31 |
us_0gb |
Onion power has sugar, I would thing. Whole onions do. |
| 09:31 |
VanessaE |
forget fruit. veggies are okay |
| 09:31 |
zash |
everything has sugar |
| 09:31 |
us_0gb |
I'm almost certain cheese does as well. |
| 09:31 |
zash |
sugar is added to everything |
| 09:31 |
VanessaE |
onion powder doesn't have enough sugar for it to matter, neither does cheese |
| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
a bit of lactose, but that's not *added* |
| 09:32 |
us_0gb |
I'm not even talking about additives. It's naturally in most foods. |
| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
I'm talking about table sugar, sucrose. |
| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
you know, the crap no one's supposed to eat |
| 09:32 |
October21 |
the Carbohydrates in most food |
| 09:32 |
us_0gb |
Ah, sucrose. Yeah, we should probably avoid that. |
| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
the stuff they cram down everyone's throats in soda and the like |
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| 09:32 |
VanessaE |
(of course that's corn syrup, but same damn thing for the sake of this discussion) |
| 09:44 |
Hirato |
sfan5: <3 |
| 09:45 |
Hirato |
might want to make it a required depend if the option is enabled |
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sfan5 |
Hirato: done |
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| 10:25 |
Megaf |
!up megaf.no-ip.info 30003 |
| 10:25 |
MinetestBot |
megaf.no-ip.info:30003 is up (3169ms) |
| 10:27 |
Megaf |
sfan5, can you please try my server? |
| 10:28 |
sfan5 |
sure |
| 10:30 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: doesn't work |
| 10:30 |
Megaf |
oh deer |
| 10:30 |
sfan5 |
stops at "connecting to server..." |
| 10:31 |
Megaf |
sfan5, you using megaf.no-ip.info 30003 right? |
| 10:31 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 10:32 |
sfan5 |
oh.. wait |
| 10:32 |
sfan5 |
works! |
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| 10:33 |
Megaf |
sfan5, there are many mods and not http working properly yet, so it might take a while |
| 10:33 |
nore |
how do you define the collision box of a node? |
| 10:33 |
xyz |
no releases — people hate us because wow so slow |
| 10:33 |
xyz |
releases — people hate us because why the fuck would you release this non-working shit |
| 10:33 |
xyz |
;_; |
| 10:34 |
sfan5 |
conclusion: you can't make your users happy |
| 10:34 |
xyz |
wrong |
| 10:34 |
Megaf |
Im the non-working shit user |
| 10:34 |
xyz |
conslusions: users are stupid |
| 10:34 |
Megaf |
also the second case developer |
| 10:34 |
xyz |
well that's a bit mean |
| 10:35 |
xyz |
let's say users don't know what they want |
| 10:35 |
Megaf |
sfan5, are you nyankitty? |
| 10:35 |
sfan5 |
Megaf: meow, yes |
| 10:35 |
nore |
WHY is it selection_box but collisionbox?? |
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| 10:36 |
xyz |
you're starting to understand this |
| 10:37 |
xyz |
also getpos/setpos but get_hp/set_hp and more |
| 10:37 |
VanessaE |
meanwhile I will continue to bitch about actual bugs that affect the rest of us "don't know what we want" users..... |
| 10:37 |
nore |
wait... that was for entities |
| 10:37 |
nore |
is there no way to set the collision box of a node? |
| 10:38 |
VanessaE |
nore: nope |
| 10:38 |
nore |
:( |
| 10:38 |
xyz |
bugs in irrlicht which we can't fix included |
| 10:39 |
VanessaE |
s/we can't fix/we aren't willing to fork, patch, and bundle to get around/ |
| 10:40 |
xyz |
bundling irrlicht is no good, distro package maintainers will hate us |
| 10:40 |
VanessaE |
in other words, there are always ways to fix bugs, it's a matter of the desire to fix, not the ability. |
| 10:40 |
VanessaE |
hah |
| 10:41 |
VanessaE |
that didn't stop you from bundling half a dozen other things with minetest |
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| 10:41 |
markveidemanis |
Hello |
| 10:41 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 10:41 |
markveidemanis |
How would i get all the items in minetest? |
| 10:42 |
markveidemanis |
and textures as in: |
| 10:42 |
markveidemanis |
"wool:pink": ("wool_pink.png", "wool_pink.png"), |
| 10:42 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: grep the debug log. look for ItemDefManager or something like that |
| 10:42 |
VanessaE |
that'll get you the list of items anyway |
| 10:44 |
markveidemanis |
will it? ok |
| 10:44 |
VanessaE |
xyz: and, no offense intended....you're one to talk about people hating forks.... considering what you and proller maintain |
| 10:44 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: assuming you have the debug level set high enough, yes |
| 10:44 |
VanessaE |
(range 1 to 4, not sure at what level those messages are added) |
| 10:46 |
xyz |
what did I say about people hating forks? |
| 10:46 |
VanessaE |
xyz: so if you two can fork minetest to "fix" what you guys consider to be deficiencies in its code, then you guys can fork irrlicht and fix bugs in it that keep it from minetest from working right - assuming it isn't in fact minetest that is bugged. The difference being, that fork would in theory be mergeable back to mainline irrlicht. |
| 10:46 |
VanessaE |
[01-03 05:39] <xyz> bundling irrlicht is no good, distro package maintainers will hate us |
| 10:46 |
VanessaE |
bundle == fork, duh |
| 10:46 |
VanessaE |
and I'm pretty sure distro package maintainers are people too |
| 10:46 |
xyz |
wat |
| 10:47 |
xyz |
okay |
| 10:47 |
xyz |
how about you go with that idea to dev |
| 10:47 |
VanessaE |
no. |
| 10:47 |
VanessaE |
because most of the devs don't give two shits about my ideas. |
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| 10:48 |
VanessaE |
but see, here's the thing: you bring up irrlicht, so I guess you refer to the copy&paste bug under linux.... but how can it be irrlicht that's bugged if it works in some window managers and not in others, and works fine in windows, apparently? |
| 10:48 |
VanessaE |
whereas, I wasn't even *thinking* about that bug. |
| 10:49 |
VanessaE |
I was thinking totally abstractly. |
| 10:49 |
VanessaE |
(in fact, what I had on my mind was networking related) |
| 10:53 |
markveidemanis |
My server refuses to report to servers.minetest.net |
| 10:53 |
markveidemanis |
ALthough my windows PC does it fone |
| 10:53 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: ShadowNinja has the same problem |
| 10:53 |
markveidemanis |
*fine |
| 10:53 |
VanessaE |
but for some reason it works for me |
| 10:53 |
xyz |
VanessaE: dunno maybe that's not irrlicht |
| 10:53 |
markveidemanis |
do i need to set thes ervers ip? |
| 10:54 |
VanessaE |
xyz: everyone who has ever cared to comment from a position of authority (== is a core dev capable of fixing the issue were it minetest's fault) has blamed it on irrlicht. |
| 10:54 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: allegedly no, but I do so anyway |
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VanessaE |
(I point to my servers' domain though) |
| 10:54 |
nore |
markveidemanis, I saw you wanted to know how the forth computer worked yesterday? |
| 10:55 |
xyz |
VanessaE: dunno, it's not like I'm interested in looking into that at the moment |
| 10:55 |
VanessaE |
xyz: which makes me more than a little curious as to which issue you're talking about then |
| 10:56 |
markveidemanis |
fucking hell |
| 10:56 |
markveidemanis |
VanessaE, thats a lot of shit to sift through |
| 10:57 |
VanessaE |
markveidemanis: what is? |
| 10:57 |
xyz |
VanessaE: ah, I was talking about copy paste, right |
| 10:58 |
VanessaE |
xyz: right, see I was thinking, originally, about the problems you and proller already solved in fm, things like server lag on non-cURL join and how we're still piddle-farting around in mt with that (with sapier's work being our best shot so far) |
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VanessaE |
or stupid little shit like this client crash on exit-to-menu that seem to be affecting some users |
| 11:00 |
nore |
markveidemanis, still want to know? |
| 11:01 |
VanessaE |
(happens to me also but I always exit to OS, so it never actually *affects* me, save for waiting for the connection to the server to time out) |
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markveidemanis |
Hello againb |
| 11:12 |
markveidemanis |
Did i netsplit? |
| 11:12 |
VanessaE |
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markveidemanis |
|How would i get node name, then textures? |
| 11:13 |
markveidemanis |
ItemDefManager was a complete fail |
| 11:13 |
VanessaE |
why do you need to get that? |
| 11:13 |
markveidemanis |
i got 700 kb of garbage and i wasnt going to sify through it |
| 11:13 |
VanessaE |
in-game there is a table you can consult to get nodenames |
| 11:13 |
VanessaE |
from there you can get all textures too |
| 11:14 |
markveidemanis |
WHIch table? |
| 11:14 |
VanessaE |
minetest.registered_nodes I guess |
| 11:14 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
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markveidemanis |
so i shove that i a mod |
| 11:14 |
markveidemanis |
how do i write to file in lua? |
| 11:15 |
VanessaE |
iterate through that, and check the wield_image, inventory_image, and tiles fields of each node name that comes back |
| 11:15 |
VanessaE |
look up io.open() and io.write() in the PiL. |
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markveidemanis |
io.open("nodelist.txt") |
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markveidemanis |
http://pastie.org/8596613 |
| 11:17 |
VanessaE |
but what are you doing with all this anyway? |
| 11:18 |
markveidemanis |
to get the nodes and textures for minetestmapper |
| 11:18 |
markveidemanis |
so it would work |
| 11:18 |
markveidemanis |
the fancy slow, isometric one |
| 11:18 |
VanessaE |
not sure if your code will work |
| 11:18 |
markveidemanis |
attempt to call field 'resgistered_nodes' (a nil value) |
| 11:19 |
VanessaE |
but as for the isometric one (which is onomatopoeia) idk if that's what it wants or not |
| 11:19 |
markveidemanis |
my code was fine :P |
| 11:19 |
markveidemanis |
first mod !! |
| 11:19 |
markveidemanis |
you could say |
| 11:19 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1601 |
| 11:19 |
VanessaE |
minetest.registered_nodes is a table |
| 11:19 |
VanessaE |
not a function |
| 11:19 |
VanessaE |
iterate through it |
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markveidemanis |
resgistered nodes i put |
| 11:19 |
markveidemanis |
fail :) |
| 11:20 |
VanessaE |
for node in ipairs(minetest.registered_nodes) do .... code here .... end |
| 11:20 |
VanessaE |
and you'd need to serialize the table for writing |
| 11:20 |
VanessaE |
and even then all you're doing is writing out a raw table |
| 11:21 |
VanessaE |
you'll still have to parse it from outside of minetest |
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nore |
VanessaE, no... don't serialize it, write it in the correct format |
| 11:22 |
VanessaE |
nore: well, whatever the right format is, I'm not that good with writing out tables to a file |
| 11:22 |
xyz |
VanessaE: well what can I do about them not accepting our changes |
| 11:23 |
VanessaE |
xyz: nothing at all, but my point is they're not accepting *anyone's* changes in that subsystem right now. my point is SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT |
| 11:24 |
VanessaE |
(that's not directed at you but at the devs who are responsible for accepting and rejecting the code that currently exists to fix the issue) |
| 11:24 |
VanessaE |
(which I presume is not your particular responsibility) |
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xyz |
sapier's doing his tcp/udp stuff though which should fix that once and for all |
| 11:24 |
VanessaE |
until this morning, I've been using sapier build. |
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nore |
VanessaE, about bundling irrlicht: it could fix a couple of other bugs too (like the broken "Local install" button) |
| 11:25 |
VanessaE |
I reverted to minetest vanilla to fix a conflict with the areas mod's HUD (which will probably be fixed once sapier rebases again) |
| 11:25 |
VanessaE |
but up to that point it seemed to work pretty good |
| 11:25 |
VanessaE |
though I have not tested his tcp code yet, ony the udp stuff |
| 11:25 |
VanessaE |
sapier's* |
| 11:26 |
VanessaE |
nore: ah, see I wasn't aware of that bug |
| 11:27 |
VanessaE |
xyz: problem is, with sapier's tcp/udp stuff is that no one in the team wants to just fucking say "ok, sapier, here's deal - you make this work properly in all common cases and we'll merge it." |
| 11:27 |
nore |
(the problem was that Irrlicht sets the local to the default locale in the system, so formspec gets broken if the locale does not use "." for floating point values) |
| 11:27 |
VanessaE |
it's all hemming and hawing about this or that or the other poossible alternative lib like enet or whatever |
| 11:27 |
VanessaE |
here's the deal* |
| 11:27 |
VanessaE |
I keep out words here there :P |
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VanessaE |
nore: oh yes, I think I remember something about that |
| 11:28 |
VanessaE |
hey john |
| 11:28 |
VanessaE |
also, my typing sucks :P |
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* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on john_minetest's head |
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* MegafAtWork |
like bunnies |
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* sfan5 |
puts a bunny on MegafAtWork's head |
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MegafAtWork |
:) |
| 11:34 |
MegafAtWork |
My girlfriend would find that pretty cute |
| 11:36 |
sfan5 |
take a picture! |
| 11:36 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 11:36 |
sfan5 |
:P |
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* sfan5 |
gimps a gimp using gimp |
| 11:42 |
VanessaE |
a weasel :P |
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VanessaE |
(idk what he is actually) |
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* markveidemanis |
puts a dolphin on john_minetest's head |
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* john_minetest |
puts an angry wilber on markveidemanis' head |
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* MegafAtWork |
puts hair gel on everyones head |
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* zash |
puts a panncake on the head of a bunny |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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MegafAtWork |
Wilber - > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP#Mascot |
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VanessaE |
hey taoki |
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MegafAtWork |
specing: Hi there |
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marko_ |
good day |
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marko_ |
question my sisters kid can t conect to my public server |
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marko_ |
i fowarded the port in my router |
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marko_ |
my brother is on the same network cnects ok |
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marko_ |
conects |
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marko_ |
minetestbot is not online |
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marko_ |
i have Linux mint |
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sfan5 |
marko_: MinetestBot it right here |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot! |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5! |
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marko_ |
do i write it in chat |
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MegafAtWork |
MinetestBot! |
| 12:39 |
MinetestBot |
MegafAtWork! |
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marko_ |
ok can anyone try conecting |
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Hirato |
MinetestBot! |
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MinetestBot |
Hirato! |
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Hirato |
Baguette! |
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marko_ |
can i give ip and port is it possible |
| 12:42 |
marko_ |
fear of ban hammer |
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MegafAtWork |
marko_: sure, you can do like |
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MegafAtWork |
!up megaf.no-ip.info 30003 |
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MinetestBot |
megaf.no-ip.info:30003 is up (524ms) |
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MegafAtWork |
replace with your address and port |
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marko_ |
192.168.1.207 30000 |
| 12:44 |
MegafAtWork |
ok, lets start from tha begining |
| 12:44 |
MegafAtWork |
that IP is a local network IP |
| 12:44 |
MegafAtWork |
not an internet IP |
| 12:44 |
marko_ |
yep |
| 12:44 |
MegafAtWork |
with that IP address you can only connect from your local network |
| 12:45 |
MegafAtWork |
marko_: you can see your external IP here http://canihazip.com/ |
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MinetestBot |
192.168.1.207:30000 seems to be down |
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marko_ |
89.172.0.245 |
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marko_ |
that is what i got on that web page |
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MegafAtWork |
!up 89.172.0.245 30000 |
| 12:48 |
MinetestBot |
89.172.0.245:30000 seems to be down |
| 12:48 |
marko_ |
try now |
| 12:48 |
MegafAtWork |
marko_: now you need to set up a NAT rule on your modem |
| 12:48 |
MegafAtWork |
!up 89.172.0.245 30000 |
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MinetestBot |
89.172.0.245:30000 seems to be down |
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marko_ |
89.172.0.245 30003 |
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marko_ |
reversed to 30000 |
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marko_ |
i need to open port |
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marko_ |
just a sec |
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MegafAtWork |
marko_: you can do !up 89.172.0.245 30000 |
| 12:51 |
MegafAtWork |
!up 89.172.0.245 30000 |
| 12:51 |
MinetestBot |
89.172.0.245:30000 seems to be down |
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marko_ |
The highlighted local IP address does not lie within the IP address range of your device specified by the subnet mask. Please choose another address. |
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marko_ |
when i go to port fowarding |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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nore |
hi |
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VanessaE |
hi' |
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iqualfragile |
VanessaE: http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?6b4ed906f8ace300#rNkf5OCc4GjbOccmG7t175G8hKegGQMRScgZXJQTcXY= |
| 13:40 |
VanessaE |
that... |
| 13:40 |
VanessaE |
is unhelpful |
| 13:40 |
VanessaE |
you didn't copy the whole error message |
| 13:40 |
VanessaE |
unexpected symbol nea' <--- near...what? |
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VanessaE |
plus |
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VanessaE |
it's impossible |
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VanessaE |
the only thing on that line is a variable. |
| 13:41 |
VanessaE |
update your copy of pipeworks |
| 13:41 |
VanessaE |
and make sure you're using the master branch |
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VanessaE |
the other branches are experimental and not ready for production use |
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iqualfragile |
VanessaE: i do not quite understand why, but git pull resulted in a merge conflict |
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VanessaE |
strange |
| 13:49 |
VanessaE |
maybe your local copy was hosed> |
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VanessaE |
? |
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Issa2013 |
my minetest is reallllyyy laaaaag |
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Issa2013 |
i have 9 - 10 fps |
| 14:03 |
Issa2013 |
that's sucks |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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pitriss |
Issa2013: fps is not lag.. lag is network problem, fps is graphics problem |
| 14:07 |
Issa2013 |
ok pitriss |
| 14:07 |
Issa2013 |
but same things my minetest is unplayable |
| 14:08 |
pitriss |
try to lower visible distance |
| 14:16 |
Issa2013 |
pitriss, we ava cmmand to show all the map ? |
| 14:18 |
pitriss |
no there is not such command.. but if you want to change view range then R toggles between full and limited range and +/- set how far you can see |
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Issa2013 |
pitriss, http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-52c6c6dc4d0be2.91773824.jpg |
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Issa2013 |
3 FPS |
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Issa2013 |
http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-52c6c75ac3ee79.07912243.jpg |
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pitriss |
stop trolling please.. I told you to reduce viewing range.. |
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hoodedice |
So... |
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Megaf |
VanessaE, Hi, can you please tell me again how to save something with worldedit? |
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EvergreenTree |
o/ |
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Jordach |
o/ |
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kaeza |
( ^_^)人(^_^ ) |
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xyz |
ï¼äººâ—• ‿‿ ◕人＼ |
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kaeza |
+fap |
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Hirato |
watching in formation |
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Hirato |
aten-hutt |
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xyz |
ITS DONE |
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xyz |
BUILDCRAFT IS FINISHED |
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Jordach |
say wut |
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Enke |
It's gone?! |
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* Jordach |
's head explodes from no reason |
| 16:20 |
xyz |
all apps are gone and developer account is gone too or so it seems |
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PilzAdam |
and the ios version? |
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* Enke |
jumps for joy! |
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zash |
Context? |
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xyz |
PilzAdam: dunno, I didn't submit DMCA for the iOS version |
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Jordach |
everyone agree on changing the license to gpl |
| 16:22 |
xyz |
why? |
| 16:22 |
Jordach |
then we can stamp this shit out for good |
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kaeza |
wut |
| 16:22 |
xyz |
don't understand you |
| 16:22 |
xyz |
how GPL would help us? |
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Hirato |
GPL isn't allowed on the apple marketplace |
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Hirato |
see: VLC |
| 16:23 |
xyz |
we have LGPL exactly for this reason — for someone to be able to do things like that |
| 16:23 |
xyz |
but legally, providing Minetest code |
| 16:23 |
xyz |
Hirato: let's be honest, lgpl isn't either |
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Hirato |
yeah |
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zash |
Hirato: Wasn't the case with VLC that an author demanded that it was removed? |
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xyz |
I think one of VLC devs asked it to be removed |
| 16:26 |
Hirato |
it was more likely something about the mnot distributing the code |
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xyz |
and I think the problem was that you weren't able to install it on any number of devices |
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UTB |
hello |
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UTB |
can someone help me understand how th autocrafter works? |
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Peacock |
the Mastercraft Autocrafter 2000? |
| 16:29 |
nore |
UTB: the one in pipeworks? |
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xyz |
well nice, guess we've managed to piss off all mobile users! |
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Peacock |
huh howcome? |
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UTB |
Yes, nore |
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nore |
there is a 3x3 area at the top |
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nore |
put the recipe here |
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nore |
then in the bottom area, put items that are used in the recipe |
| 16:31 |
nore |
get the output in the top-right area |
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xyz |
although last time it was gone too, for some days |
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nore |
or: items inserted in the autocrafter will get in the bottom are |
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Peacock |
the android version is gone, but i think there are still 1 or two ios versions out there |
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nore |
and if you use a filter on it to get items, the output will be take from it |
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xyz |
I don't care about the iOS version |
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xyz |
others are free to submit more DMCA notices of course |
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STHGOM |
how do you stop time? |
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Peacock |
so did google pull it or the dev did? |
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xyz |
not sure |
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UTB |
why do i have to put the items used in the recipe |
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UTB |
?t? |
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Peacock |
well i have a feeling vicono and playstarz are the only fake companies the guy can come up with |
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Peacock |
*aren't |
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Peacock |
god knows what name(s) he'll come up with next |
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xyz |
well I'm fine with its existence so long as they publish the source |
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STHGOM |
how do you stop time in minetest? |
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Peacock |
/set -n time_speed 0 i think |
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kaeza |
/set time_speed 0 |
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STHGOM |
ok ty |
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STHGOM |
cya |
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Peacock |
wow lol NK's Jang Song-Thaek was executed by being eaten alive by 120 starved dogs |
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Enke |
Okay, the Norh Koreans are strange. |
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Peacock |
the leader's own uncle lol i suppose he'll make canned preserves with his aunt XD |
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UTB |
dang |
| 16:50 |
UTB |
thats gross |
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blaise |
so, I can post my server on the forums? |
| 16:51 |
Peacock |
just check the public box :P |
| 16:51 |
blaise |
what public box? |
| 16:51 |
Peacock |
more people will notice :P |
| 16:51 |
Peacock |
theres creative, damage and public |
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Peacock |
(boxes to tick) |
| 16:52 |
blaise |
ah.. |
| 16:52 |
ShadowNinja |
blaise: He means server announcement. It is broken sometimes in 0.4.9. |
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UTB |
why do i have to put the items used in the recipe? for the autocrafter |
| 16:54 |
blaise |
I don't know how to enable those in the world.mt |
| 16:54 |
blaise |
and my server doesn't have a graphical interface... |
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Peacock |
wasn't it sortof broken in 048 too? people been reporting issues longer than 2-3 days if i remember correctly |
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blaise |
but if someone can point me to a forum post explaining it, or what the variables are that I need, I'll be more than happy to modify my config |
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Peacock |
in 047 i was flooded with timeout messages |
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Peacock |
minetest.conf -> server_announce = true |
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Peacock |
make sure minetest's completely closed when you're doing that or it wont save |
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blaise |
the server? |
| 16:56 |
Peacock |
server/client |
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blaise |
I don't even have a minecraft.conf |
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blaise |
I mean minetest.conf |
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* blaise |
hides |
| 16:57 |
Peacock |
where the makefiles are |
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blaise |
eh, my source tree was removed after installation |
| 16:58 |
Peacock |
me its /home/username/minetest-master/minetest.conf |
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Peacock |
(alternatively, one level above the games and bin folders) |
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blaise |
do I want v6.servers.minetest.net or servers.minetest.net ? |
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blaise |
v6.servers.minetest.net I guess |
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blaise |
time_speed = 0 will have same time dilation as real world, yes? |
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Peacock |
no 0 means time doesn't move at all |
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blaise |
1 = 24 hour days? |
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marko_ |
good evening |
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kaeza |
evening |
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Peacock |
1 should be a standard day yeah |
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Peacock |
default is 72, so 72x faster (or 72 game minutes to each real minute) - i think |
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blaise |
17:14:04: ERROR[ServerThread]: Serverlist at url v6.servers.minetest.net error (Couldn't connect to server) |
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blaise |
:\ |
| 17:15 |
blaise |
Peacock: epic flail fail |
| 17:15 |
Peacock |
bizarre |
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ShadowNinja |
blaise: Do you have IPv6? |
| 17:18 |
xyz |
you should only connect to v6 if you want to your ipv6 address to be shown on the list |
| 17:18 |
blaise |
no, I thought that ment mapgen v6 |
| 17:18 |
blaise |
not ipv6 |
| 17:20 |
blaise |
17:19:50: ACTION[ServerThread]: announcing to servers.minetest.net |
| 17:20 |
blaise |
woot! |
| 17:20 |
blaise |
:D |
| 17:20 |
blaise |
anyone that cares to connect.. midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000 |
| 17:21 |
blaise |
I'm open to any suggestions about server config |
| 17:21 |
blaise |
I would like it to run as smooth as possible.. |
| 17:22 |
ShadowNinja |
blaise: Check C55's server performance settings on the forum. |
| 17:22 |
blaise |
ShadowNinja: Your search returned no hits |
| 17:23 |
ShadowNinja |
blaise: forum.minetest.net -> servers -> Performance settings |
| 17:24 |
UTB |
when i use the auto crafter and i want to make a chest, i put the ingredients on the left box but it already used up the materials before i could even arrange them |
| 17:24 |
UTB |
how do i solve that problem |
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trauerlicht |
hello there :) happy first weekend in the year :) |
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Peacock |
power switch, coffee machine, broken... http://youtu.be/WWaLxFIVX1s |
| 17:37 |
Peacock |
ok this might be a stupid question, can i symlink from freeminer to my game and world folders in minetest (i can, but will it work?) |
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ShadowNinja |
Peacock: Yes. |
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Peacock |
cool, so i can switch back and forth without corrupting anything |
| 17:40 |
Peacock |
lol the average player on my server: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yppXAVb4uE0/T4261GxjpII/AAAAAAAADsY/vZ9mxvOdysU/s1600/heyyouapes.gif |
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blaise |
why do people keep trying to supply empty passwords? |
| 17:49 |
Peacock |
could be a bug? sometimes im told i have the wrong password even though i never set one lol |
| 17:49 |
kaeza |
such secure |
| 17:49 |
blaise |
pfft |
| 17:49 |
blaise |
I've never had any problems. |
| 17:50 |
Peacock |
why would you need to secure a test map? lol |
| 17:50 |
trauerlicht |
Peacock: it could be THE testmap ever?! |
| 17:50 |
blaise |
so people can't log in as you? |
| 17:50 |
blaise |
and destroy all your hard work? |
| 17:51 |
Peacock |
testmap = not public, and if server running, then it stands to reason im already logged in and no one else can with my name lol |
| 17:51 |
blaise |
mine is public |
| 17:52 |
blaise |
and it's a standalone server... |
| 17:52 |
blaise |
I log in remotely with a client from a different machine.. |
| 17:52 |
blaise |
the server is currently running headless... |
| 17:52 |
blaise |
Peacock: you're more than welcome to check out my progress.. midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000 |
| 17:53 |
blaise |
:) |
| 17:53 |
Peacock |
im actually waiting for shit to die down on my public server so i can test FM |
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kaeza |
[14:49:31] <Peacock> could be a bug? sometimes im told i have the wrong password even though i never set one lol |
| 17:54 |
Peacock |
yeah that is weird |
| 17:54 |
Peacock |
how can it be wrong if there isn't one? |
| 17:54 |
dipseydoodle_ |
Good afternoon. Could somebody please tell me where I would find my Minetest Folder on Ubuntu? I downloaded it from the Ubuntu Software Center |
| 17:54 |
Peacock |
though im pretty sure thats the lua menu behaving strangely, never got that before |
| 17:54 |
kaeza |
dipseydoodle_, ~/.minetest |
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Jordach |
dipseydoodle_, /home/<you>/.minetest |
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dipseydoodle_ |
Sorry, I'm having a hard time finding that. I'm pretty new to Linux (being a mac user) I see a Home/Public folder but nothing after that. |
| 17:56 |
Jordach |
dipseydoodle_, ctrl + h in the file manager |
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Jordach |
or view -> show hidden files |
| 17:56 |
Peacock |
he's looking for minetest not pron |
| 17:57 |
dipseydoodle_ |
Your my herro. Thanks |
| 17:57 |
Peacock |
:P |
| 17:57 |
dipseydoodle_ |
Mods go in there then? |
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blaise |
Peacock: all files startin with . are hidden |
| 17:57 |
Jordach |
in .minetest/mods |
| 17:57 |
Jordach |
not sure if they're game dependant |
| 17:57 |
dipseydoodle_ |
Ok so I can make my own folder then? |
| 17:57 |
Peacock |
tho why would minetest be hidden? |
| 17:58 |
blaise |
so morons don't delete it.. |
| 17:58 |
dipseydoodle_ |
I wonder too. On mac their all in an application support folder and I was expecting that kinda thing |
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dipseydoodle_ |
Oh lol |
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dipseydoodle_ |
thanks again |
| 17:58 |
Peacock |
freetards are supposed to be smarter than wintards, its not like /boot/grub is hidden :P |
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blaise |
Peacock: ls -la still shows all files prefixed with a . |
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dipseydoodle_ |
Please lets not talk about windows :P |
| 18:01 |
Peacock |
allright, we'll take about doors and cheap double glazing :D |
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dipseydoodle_ |
lol |
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dipseydoodle_ |
Although I begining to resent Apple now too |
| 18:02 |
kaeza |
suddenly: ReactOS |
| 18:02 |
Peacock |
lol reactOS is pretty old |
| 18:03 |
dipseydoodle_ |
And so limmited with apps right now |
| 18:03 |
Peacock |
apple is fine its their users i can't stand lol |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
if something is shit, why copy shit |
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kaeza |
it's 9001% Shitdows compatible |
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dipseydoodle_ |
Peacick that would have been me until steave died |
| 18:04 |
blaise |
BeOS |
| 18:04 |
blaise |
lmao |
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kaeza |
BSOD guaranteed! |
| 18:04 |
xyz |
STOP SPENDING YOUR TIME IN A WAY I DON'T LIKE!!! |
| 18:04 |
xyz |
^ every reactos hater |
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dipseydoodle_ |
I tried reactOs a while ago but to be honest Wine is just as good |
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trauerlicht |
apple is fine? why? i dont find any argument. |
| 18:06 |
Peacock |
well they can spend their time however they like lol im just noting i tried that thing years ago, and then it was dead, and suddenly it picked up again |
| 18:06 |
Peacock |
tried it around the same time i tried Beos i think |
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Peacock |
can i rename players? say they sign in with Guest####, i could rename them to douche## before they spawn, (or some random dictionary word) |
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pitriss |
Peacock: it should be easy with that prejoin callback |
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Peacock |
prejoin allows me to reject a connection and give a reason, but not to change the player's name i think |
| 18:20 |
Peacock |
simply telling someone to chose a proper name is pretty useless if they don't happen to speak english lol |
| 18:20 |
Peacock |
err, read |
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Calinou |
achievement get: 400 link karma on reddit |
| 18:44 |
* Calinou |
looks at Minetest 0.4.9, and runs away |
| 18:45 |
Peacock |
women love big karma :P |
| 18:48 |
Peacock |
shouldn't players who don't respawn after x time be timed out automatically? |
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markvei94 |
Hi |
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markvei94 |
... |
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markveidemanis |
Got a nice kindle keyboardsashtr] |
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markveidemanis |
bluetooth : |
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markveidemanis |
)] |
| 18:58 |
Peacock |
sdguoihfdgoi indeed |
| 18:59 |
markveidemanis |
hi cock |
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markveidemanis |
this renders my old netbook useless |
| 19:00 |
Peacock |
netbooks can hold more pron |
| 19:00 |
markveidemanis |
however the enter key could be bigger |
| 19:00 |
markveidemanis |
yeah 270GB |
| 19:00 |
markveidemanis |
lol out of 300 <jkkj> |
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zsoltisawesome |
!seen us|0gb |
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MinetestBot |
zsoltisawesome: us|0gb was last seen at 2013-12-16 03:51:16 UTC on #minetest |
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zsoltisawesome |
!seen lord cirth |
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zsoltisawesome |
fail |
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zsoltisawesome |
!seen lordcirth |
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MinetestBot |
zsoltisawesome: Sorry, I haven't seen lord around. |
| 19:03 |
MinetestBot |
zsoltisawesome: lordcirth was last seen at 2013-12-17 05:57:26 UTC on #minetest |
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PilzAdam |
"My *** was bigger then i thought" – https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=124257#p124257 |
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zsoltisawesome |
:| |
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Peacock |
lol |
| 19:05 |
PilzAdam |
he also made this topic: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7699 |
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PilzAdam |
am I allowed to advertise my mod too like this? |
| 19:05 |
xyz |
no |
| 19:05 |
PilzAdam |
"My mod is cooler than I thought" |
| 19:06 |
Megaf |
PilzAdam, sure you can |
| 19:06 |
Megaf |
I allow you |
| 19:06 |
zsoltisawesome |
guys: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8178 |
| 19:06 |
Megaf |
And am I? I'm the chosen one |
| 19:06 |
Megaf |
Who Am I? I'm the chosen one |
| 19:06 |
Peacock |
maybe minetest.net could just highlight a different mod each day |
| 19:07 |
zsoltisawesome |
that would be nice |
| 19:07 |
zsoltisawesome |
cause its had to find good mods |
| 19:07 |
zsoltisawesome |
*hard |
| 19:07 |
Peacock |
not to mention the copies of copies of copies not knowing which one is maintained |
| 19:07 |
PilzAdam |
zsoltisawesome, you just have to look for "by PilzAdam" to find good mods |
| 19:07 |
zsoltisawesome |
btw does anyone know batch scripting? |
| 19:07 |
zsoltisawesome |
really? |
| 19:08 |
zsoltisawesome |
that helpful, thanks |
| 19:08 |
xyz |
hey! how about we make animu about minetest instead? |
| 19:08 |
zsoltisawesome |
that would be better... |
| 19:08 |
xyz |
last time someone made slightly-open-source-related VN we've got Katawa Shoujo |
| 19:09 |
xyz |
imagine what could someone do with Minetest |
| 19:10 |
xyz |
if you didn't know then >Katawa Shoujo […] is a bishÅjo-style visual novel by Four Leaf Studios that tells a story of a young man and five young women living with varying disabilities. |
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Peacock |
figured geeks would like vulnerable women lol |
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zsoltisawesome |
how is it open source related? |
| 19:12 |
xyz |
it's distributed under some creativecommons license |
| 19:12 |
xyz |
ah, CC-BY-NC-ND, isn't very open-sourcy |
| 19:12 |
xyz |
guess I was wrong then |
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zsoltisawesome |
guys: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6686439/, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6686444/ <---- hehe all even numbers |
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zsoltisawesome |
btw the second link is the log, not the acual program output |
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zsoltisawesome |
YAY |
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Peacock |
im guessing destrozado means destroy, the rest of the message is in all caps lol |
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Naked |
destroyed |
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xyz |
> Yes. I have a friend that torrents games. I sort of stopped being friends w/ him. |
| 19:30 |
Peacock |
a little extreme lol |
| 19:30 |
xyz |
"i've reported him to police" would be better |
| 19:31 |
Peacock |
lol you serious? |
| 19:31 |
xyz |
in being extreme, of course |
| 19:31 |
Peacock |
oh ok lol |
| 19:31 |
xyz |
sometimes I feel like they're not even trying to shitpost |
| 19:31 |
Peacock |
well i dont really believe that either dont torrent anything |
| 19:31 |
xyz |
wait, this discussion was about iOS port |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
>iOS Port |
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Jordach |
lol |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
you're joking :) |
| 19:32 |
Peacock |
naw, two apps so far |
| 19:32 |
Peacock |
buildcraft and freeworld for ios |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
in other news, i purchased something you'd shame me for |
| 19:32 |
xyz |
dragon dildo? |
| 19:32 |
Peacock |
a prostitute? |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
double nope.avi |
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PilzAdam |
"things not to say in #minetest" |
| 19:33 |
xyz |
what things? |
| 19:33 |
Jordach |
it costs $30 USD |
| 19:33 |
xyz |
I'm patient and I respect other users |
| 19:34 |
xyz |
you got me, I have no idea how much dragon dildos cost |
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* Jordach |
swaps windows from said game and slaps xyz |
| 19:34 |
Peacock |
that's a little harsh isn't it? slapping someone with your dildo :/ |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
saints row beat me to it |
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zsoltisawesome |
lol |
| 19:39 |
xyz |
oh you bought a shitty pc game or? |
| 19:41 |
xyz |
that topic about "MASTER MOD 1.0" is a stupid trolling, isn't it? |
| 19:41 |
PilzAdam |
NO! IT WILL BE EPIC! |
| 19:41 |
Peacock |
AWESOME??!!?? |
| 19:42 |
xyz |
awww, it's hard to shitpost |
| 19:42 |
xyz |
people will think I'm an administrator or someshit like this |
| 19:42 |
Jordach |
xyz, correct |
| 19:43 |
xyz |
but in the wonderful world of irc everybody's equal |
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zsoltisawesome |
brb, gona eaat |
| 19:44 |
xyz |
I wanted to post something like this http://i.imgur.com/GtJgImM.jpg but I'm afraid that's inappropriate |
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| 19:45 |
Peacock |
it's mostly 12 year olds in FPS's call each other faggots, adults use douche or retard lol |
| 19:45 |
xyz |
fag |
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Naked |
and dick |
| 19:47 |
Peacock |
which is ironic because its not like 12 year olds have much experience either way, and FPS's tend to be sausagefests lol |
| 19:48 |
Peacock |
Naked http://carlindustries.com/ciwp/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/spotted_dick-640x480.jpeg |
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zash |
Microwaveable! |
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Jordach |
xyz, +1 |
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* Jordach |
wants you to post that |
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Peacock |
zash http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/images/shows/southpark/vertical_video/season_14/sp_1403_clip04.jpg |
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xyz |
fuck |
| 19:52 |
xyz |
I hoped they added a way to buy Windows 8.1 |
| 19:53 |
xyz |
oh well |
| 19:53 |
PilzAdam |
maybe the master mod author thinks "coding" means "writing something with full capslock in a forum post" |
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xyz |
"Windows 8 and Windows 8 Pro are upgrade versions only. If you want the full version of Windows 8 or want to install Windows on a Mac, please call us at 1-877-696-7786 to purchase." |
| 19:54 |
PilzAdam |
^ spam |
| 19:56 |
Peacock |
http://rolande.files.wordpress.com/2005/01/spam-can.jpg |
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xyz |
Peacock: you should add more cute girls to your pics |
| 19:58 |
Peacock |
i dont make them i just find 'em lol |
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zash |
CAN SPAM |
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markveidemanis |
] |
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markveidemanis |
I can use the keyboard on my pc |
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markveidemanis |
unconfortasbleas hell |
| 20:01 |
Peacock |
english women? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LfQ9u0cJxyE/TMfwl01gwzI/AAAAAAAAD9g/sRRRhFgyhwI/s320/DurasSisters.jpg |
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markveidemanis |
i also got a FUCKING 1920x1080 monitor from hp |
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Peacock |
why would you fuck a monitor? some sort of weird electro-stimulation or ? |
| 20:02 |
zash |
Peacock: It's the monitor that fucks, obviously |
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UTB |
wtf ^^ |
| 20:03 |
Peacock |
? |
| 20:04 |
UTB |
monitor that fucks |
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Peacock |
lol "North Carolina city councillor David Waddell resigns. In Klingon." |
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Peacock |
i have 3 people going by names admin (different capitalizations) lol |
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Calinou |
a monitor likes it at less than 60 hz |
| 20:09 |
Calinou |
except G-sync monitors or 120/144Hz monitors, who like it fast |
| 20:09 |
Peacock |
until it hz too much |
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trauerlicht |
how much bandwith does minetest need to run basicly smooth? |
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sfan5 |
trauerlicht: 100 KB/s up & down I guess |
| 20:13 |
sfan5 |
or maybe moe |
| 20:13 |
sfan5 |
more* |
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proller |
5-10лизы |
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proller |
kbps |
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Peacock |
<player> im a hacker! [5 mins later] <player>can i have fly? lol |
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trauerlicht |
5-10 kbps or 100kbps? |
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blaise |
PilzAdam: how do I get the area mod to work? |
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sfan5 |
trauerlicht: something inbetween |
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trauerlicht |
sfan5: is there a tool to test this? |
| 20:31 |
sfan5 |
any tool to moniter network send/recv rate should do it |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Add mesecon:register_on_mvps_move, fix mesecon:mvps_pull_all b0f81a8c62 2014-01-03T02:04:19-08:00 http://git.io/0m2eAg |
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trauerlicht |
nethogs seems to be promising |
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blaise |
what is a good protect mod ? |
| 20:46 |
blaise |
I got ShadowNinja's areas mod.. |
| 20:46 |
blaise |
but I can't find how to configure it |
| 20:46 |
blaise |
ShadowNinja: you alive? |
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trauerlicht |
sfan5: wheres your server? germany? |
| 20:49 |
sfan5 |
yep |
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trauerlicht |
im just logging on your server - about 6kbps |
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* sfan5 |
just added automatic crash logging to his servet |
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sfan5 |
server* |
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sfan5 |
trauerlicht: try joining again, I just restarted |
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trauerlicht |
lol ... splashed my pw |
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trauerlicht |
i love that error message: 21:45:10: ERROR[main]: Something failed |
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trauerlicht |
item definitions - |
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sfan5 |
it may be a bit slow, I'm running debug build for crash reporting purposes |
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specing |
proller: unified inventory doesent work anymore @ sky |
| 21:04 |
proller |
disabled, because slow |
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trauerlicht |
i just restarted the connection. your server does not work anymore. sfan5 |
| 21:04 |
proller |
specing, or enable> |
| 21:04 |
proller |
? |
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sfan5 |
trauerlicht: try again |
| 21:05 |
specing |
D: |
| 21:05 |
specing |
unified inventory is slow? |
| 21:05 |
trauerlicht |
runs |
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specing |
and you have mobs enabled? 0.o |
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proller |
yes |
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Ubuntu-Tester |
In the Mods tab how do u get "Online mod repository" workin every time i click it it dont work |
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trauerlicht |
sfan5: vote command does not work - issue |
| 21:14 |
trauerlicht |
sfan5: no permission |
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Calinou |
trauerlicht, 200Kb/s per client, down/up |
| 21:16 |
Calinou |
at worst |
| 21:17 |
proller |
for what? |
| 21:18 |
proller |
maybe for initial recieving media |
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blaise |
anyone know how the areas protection mod works? |
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blaise |
I can't seem to get it working |
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blaise |
ShadowNinja: you alive? |
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SegFault22 |
Hello all |
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Peacock |
greetings |
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SegFault22 |
Where's us_0gb? |
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blaise |
Peacock: do you know how areas mod works? |
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Peacock |
which one? there are dozens lol |
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SegFault22 |
oh :P |
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Peacock |
we call them YAPMs now (Yet Another Protection Mod) :P |
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blaise |
the one by ShadowNinja |
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blaise |
I want it to be configured so only those who create nodes can destroy them |
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blaise |
I thought I set it up properly in minetest.conf but it's not working |
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blaise |
areas.self_protection = true |
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blaise |
Peacock: is that the right setting? |
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Peacock |
then what you want is indiv node ownership |
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Peacock |
pretty easy, reconfig the built in place node to store the owner name in the meta |
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Peacock |
and the dig node to check it |
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blaise |
?! |
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Peacock |
though then people can grief by putting t heir blocks in doorways, so you wanna check that they're not placing nodes near owned nodes |
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Peacock |
cuz the areas mod protects whole areas, not indiv. nodes anywhere |
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blaise |
yeah, that's what I want.. |
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blaise |
but I can't figure it out |
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blaise |
./area_pos set |
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blaise |
then I punch two nodes.. |
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blaise |
but, then what? |
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SegFault22 |
? What? |
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SegFault22 |
Do you know what us_0gb did with the fuel-table he was working on? |
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SegFault22 |
finding rather unnerving stuff on the chat logs from 05:17... |
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SegFault22 |
so us_0bg is gone... |
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SegFault22 |
Oh well. |
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SegFault22 |
bye |
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harrison |
04,11memehopper |
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harrison |
that is the spirit! |
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harrison |
go go memehopper go |
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Peacock |
paramat here? |
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paramat |
yes |
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proller |
http://minetest.setun.net/map.road/map-road.png |
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proller |
paramat, yet another fractal ^ |
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paramat |
i like the look of that |
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paramat |
heh busy server |
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arsdragonfly |
Mandelbrot set? |
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proller |
mg_math = {"generator":"hypercomplex", "scale":0.0001, "N":12, "interior_mode": 1, "center":{"x":20000, "y":1, "z":0}} |
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proller |
^ fm only feature ;) |
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proller |
http://wiki.mandelbulber.com/images/0/0f/Image_-_hypercomplex.jpg |
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zash |
So you haven't gotten to the good parts yet? |
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zash |
:) |
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paramat |
hypercomplex ... i guess a 3D fractal or 3 dimensional slice of 4+D |
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Peacock |
paramat those weird lines you're getting, i dont think its mgv6 |
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paramat |
? |
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Peacock |
my shield gen uses vmanip to create bubbles (spheres) |
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Peacock |
and there are outlines of circles |
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paramat |
interesting |
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harrison |
have u seen the fracktal voxel raytracer yet? |
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Peacock |
http://s17.postimg.org/vynq1z28d/screenshot_1516303242.png |
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harrison |
-- not you Peacock i know you have |
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paramat |
i got those lines pre-LVM too |
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paramat |
harrison i've seen some of your videos |
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Peacock |
but why would i be getting circles? didn't do this in 047 |
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Peacock |
apart from the fact i drew a sphere lol |
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paramat |
guess it's time to ping the king ... |
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paramat |
hi hmmmm, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1077 i had assumed this was an old well known bug but couldn't find it in issues |
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paramat |
wow Pea, far out screenshot |
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paramat |
i doubt those circles are the same bug as the chunk edge lines |
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paramat |
... they look like intersection curves of spheres, perhaps caused by previous bubbles ... ? |
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* sfan5 |
laughs uncontrollably |
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Darkangel |
When 1 makes a NEW Mod for Minetest how does 1 get it launched? |
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paramat |
!seen 1 |
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MinetestBot |
paramat: Sorry, I haven't seen 1 around. |
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blaise |
how can I make a grate or screen for a chimney? |
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Darkangel |
kk |
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blaise |
people keep sliding down my chimney and stealing my furnace.. :( |
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Darkangel |
well Basicly done made it just need to make another round of enpeaction |
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paramat |
mountain river in flexrealm http://i.imgur.com/MLnwqJM.png |
