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00:00 Jordach happy new jan 3rd 2014 :)
00:00 Jordach for gmt+0er's
00:04 blaise so.. it turns out Irrlicht will not compile with mesa-10.0.x
00:04 blaise just fyi
00:04 blaise lmao
00:07 jin_xi ok, ended up just making crosshair black via conf
00:07 blaise ok, so if I want to install mods on my deticated minetest server.. where might the mods dir be located?
00:07 PilzAdam run in place or system-wide installed?
00:07 blaise system-wide
00:08 PilzAdam in ~/.minetest/mods/
00:08 PilzAdam (you have to create that directory)
00:08 blaise yeah, if I were running the client..
00:08 blaise but what about the server
00:08 PilzAdam eh, what=
00:08 PilzAdam *?
00:08 blaise dedicated minetest server mods dir?
00:09 blaise /usr/share/games/minetest/games/minimal/mods/
00:09 PilzAdam ~/.minetest/mods/
00:09 blaise found it
00:09 blaise I think
00:09 PilzAdam no, thats wrong
00:09 PilzAdam dont put mods in the game
00:10 blaise mkdir -p /home/minetest/.minetest/mods
00:10 blaise and put them there?
00:10 PilzAdam yea
00:11 blaise is there a way to specify mods dir?
00:11 blaise my minetest user doesn't currently have a home dir for security reasons.. and shell=/dev/null
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00:11 blaise :)
00:12 PilzAdam maybe /usr/share/games/minetest/mods/ works
00:14 blaise I'm thinking so...
00:15 PilzAdam remember to also enable the mods in world.mt in the world dir
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00:24 aldobr hi all
00:24 blaise PilzAdam: thanks
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00:29 KeyXMakerX static_spawnpoint = Bla, bla, bla : to set a static spawn point correct?
00:30 PilzAdam bye
00:31 Peacock Noooooooooooooooooo!
00:33 paramat he's gone to sit in some soil ... in the dark
00:34 Peacock that reminds me of the expression: politicians are like mushrooms, keep'em in the dark and feed 'em shit lol
00:35 Peacock more relevant than ever considering our local municipal politics here lol
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00:35 Megaf Hi all
00:36 Megaf how do I gitclone this? https://github.com/xyzz/minet​est-mods/tree/master/sethome
00:36 kaeza git clone https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-mods.git
00:36 kaeza then copy/symlink "sethome"
00:36 aldobr what happens if i compile a 6502 emulator using a C compiler for 6502 ?!
00:37 Megaf a black hole
00:38 aldobr a ressonance cascade :P
00:38 Warr1024 on said emulator?
00:38 Warr1024 how do you think they compile gcc :-)
00:38 blaise arg
00:41 Megaf kaeza, not a good solution for me
00:41 kaeza why?
00:42 Megaf xyz, Would I be asking too much if you put sethome as its own mod, not in a modpack?
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00:55 paramat http://imgur.com/gallery/SXgcA hehe
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01:04 paramat Peacock http://i.imgur.com/gTgXF9B.png <stability mod> http://i.imgur.com/23xSywA.png moonrealm LVM> http://i.imgur.com/AZPxDxX.png
01:05 Peacock no lines, weird
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01:16 paramat Pea ... i only get lines when processing and lowering terrain in mgv6, my realms are unaffected
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01:32 blaise apparently the dedicated useflag for gentoo with minetest is broken.
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01:33 blaise I did however find out where the mods dir needs to be.. /var/lib/minetest/.minetest/mods
01:33 blaise :D
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01:36 blaise my question is.. if I install the mods to that dir, does any client that may connect to it have to have the mod? or is this only required server side?
01:37 blaise or are there some mods that are just for the server and some mods just for the client?
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01:39 Miner_48er All mods are for the server. The only mod to the client is texture packs.
01:39 blaise cool
01:39 VanessaE Miner_48er: and sound packs
01:40 Miner_48er haven't heard of any sound packs
01:40 WarrTab Model packs?
01:40 VanessaE technic's extension to the ambiance mod
01:40 VanessaE it supplies music for the music player nodes
01:40 VanessaE that is installable as a client-side sound pack
01:41 blaise should I enable juajit?
01:41 blaise what are the benifits of using juajit compiler ?
01:41 VanessaE abso-fucking-lutely
01:42 VanessaE it makes whatever mods you run locally in singleplayer work faster, take less CPU
01:42 WarrTab It's like 3x as fast for certain mods...
01:42 VanessaE JIT as in Just-in-Time (compiler)
01:42 blaise so are there any benifits for a remote server to have juajit enabled?
01:43 VanessaE no
01:43 blaise k
01:43 VanessaE it won't affect your play on servers
01:43 blaise what about server preformance?
01:43 VanessaE if you run a server, absolutely use it, yes
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01:50 blaise I would like to stres test my minetest server..
01:50 blaise :D
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01:52 hoodedice I'm gonna kill anyone who says that Windows 8 is crap
01:52 blaise lmao
01:52 blaise hoodedice: why?
01:53 hoodedice Because I love it
01:53 hoodedice It's brillint and just works!
01:53 hoodedice And internet explorer is finally fast and usable
01:53 hoodedice All this is just like Xubuntu without the touch
01:54 hoodedice Anyway, no one on>
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01:54 blaise hah
01:54 hoodedice NekoGloopMkII!!
01:54 hoodedice Soup?
01:55 * VanessaE waits for the inevitable MkIV variant
01:55 hoodedice Yo VanessaE
01:55 VanessaE hi
01:55 hoodedice Cleveland, OH
01:55 hoodedice ^.^
01:56 hoodedice College starts in 8 days
01:56 WarrTab In my experience, comparing win8 to xubuntu is not really a good way to complement it...
01:56 hoodedice (I'm finally gonna be a real programmer !!!)
01:56 blaise would anyone be willing to connect to my minetest server to make sure it's able to be used from the WAN ?
01:57 hoodedice To complement 8?
01:57 * blaise 's minetest server is at midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org
01:57 hoodedice Dude, if any windows version is better than even Lubuntu
01:57 hoodedice That version deserves a pat on the back
01:57 hoodedice XP, 7, all pale in comparision to the mighty 8
01:57 blaise hoodedice: the only *buntu derivitave I liked was linux mint
01:58 hoodedice And while BS flies thru me mouth, people start to leave
01:58 hoodedice XD
01:58 hoodedice Anyway, the reason I came on was to scold the core devs
01:58 hoodedice for releasing 0.4.9 too quick
01:59 hoodedice No good comes from a rushed release.
01:59 katyusha 0.4.9 is already released?
01:59 hoodedice BANG!
01:59 hoodedice LOOK UP!
01:59 katyusha Well I'll be damned lol
01:59 blaise lol
01:59 katyusha oh
02:00 katyusha derp, I never look up at the titlebar
02:00 katyusha I feel kinda dumb now
02:00 hoodedice I check the forums quite frequently, so...
02:00 hoodedice I only look *up there* for PilzAdam's jokes
02:00 blaise :D
02:01 blaise so, either no one can connect to my server.. or no one has tried..
02:01 blaise :(
02:01 hoodedice This isn't my laptop, so I can't
02:02 blaise hoodedice: you should check out portableapps.com
02:02 blaise you can have minetest on a flash drive so it won't modify the contents of the host computer
02:02 hoodedice I'm thinking of getting a niccee USB
02:02 hoodedice Yes, flash drive, sorry
02:03 hoodedice Then I'll et up a portable xubuntu installation on it, thanks to john_minetest
02:03 katyusha try debian instead :s
02:04 blaise I'm rather partial to source based distro's
02:04 hoodedice I like Xubuntu.
02:04 blaise but if I need something binary, I always look to arch
02:04 katyusha the stable version of debian would be easier on a flash drive imo because it doesn't update much
02:04 hoodedice I don't have enough time to experiment around now
02:04 blaise I don't like any *untu distro's at all
02:04 hoodedice I can understand
02:05 katyusha well that ^ not trying to be an ass but I don't really trust canonical...
02:05 blaise but, portableapps.com will let you install apps to the flash drive.. and can be ran from the usb drive..
02:05 hoodedice Nor do I, but Xubuntu's nice
02:05 Peacock its a well known fact Mark Shuttlecock is the antichrist
02:05 hoodedice Oh please
02:05 Peacock lol
02:05 blaise lmao
02:05 katyusha Lennart Pothead
02:05 hoodedice And I should listen to a random Peacock on the net
02:05 Peacock Peacocks are the wisest of the birds
02:06 hoodedice Indeed.
02:07 hoodedice That's why random Pakistani drivers have seats covered with...
02:07 hoodedice PEACOCK FEATHERS.
02:07 blaise so, no one will connect to my server to test that it works externally?
02:07 hoodedice I can't. Yet.
02:07 hoodedice Post it in the forums
02:07 blaise k
02:08 hoodedice So...
02:08 hoodedice Much...
02:08 hoodedice Snow
02:09 Peacock snow? its like -50c outside
02:09 Peacock i went out for vitamins (beer) earlier, nasal hairs were frozen stiff
02:09 blaise yeah, it's snowing pretty good here....
02:10 hoodedice And here I am
02:11 hoodedice Thinking -10 C is damn cold.
02:11 hoodedice XD
02:11 hoodedice Well I did walk 2 blocks in it, so I'm a hero!
02:11 Peacock please lol you wanna know cold, try Russia or Canada :P
02:11 hoodedice *I'm awesome!
02:11 hoodedice Cleveland is pretty much Canada
02:11 hoodedice XD
02:12 hoodedice Just Eerie seperating the two
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02:12 hoodedice "Eerie" *Pfft*
02:12 Peacock whats creepy about the separating the two?
02:12 hoodedice Dude. Lame pun.
02:12 Peacock lol
02:12 Peacock well im pretty sure a few neurons froze on the way back lol
02:13 hoodedice I still don't know who was drunk enough to name it that
02:13 hoodedice Ah, my jokes do require
02:13 hoodedice BRAINS.
02:13 Peacock id like to meet the drunken idiot who started digging in the ice and decided to call it Canada XD
02:13 hoodedice XD
02:14 hoodedice I've seen enough 'Murica, and it's every bit of that lazy drunk slobbery country I thought it would be
02:14 Miner_48er http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Name_of_Canada
02:15 hoodedice Canada > Kanata > Village
02:15 hoodedice *Pfft*
02:15 Peacock that i knew :P
02:15 blaise no one cares to connect to my minetest server..
02:15 * blaise sobs profusely
02:15 Peacock hell our own anglos can't even speak french, and we're officially a bilingual country, so never mind them having a clue about native languages XD
02:15 hoodedice SHUT UP!
02:16 * blaise eats hoodedice
02:16 hoodedice We're discussing important stuf
02:16 hoodedice So *ARRrghhh!!!!*
02:16 VanessaE blaise: what's the address/port?]
02:16 * blaise rolls his eyes so hard he cuts a backflip
02:16 blaise VanessaE: midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org
02:16 blaise VanessaE: I left the port default.. 30000
02:17 blaise I haven't installed any mods at all yet
02:17 blaise I just wanted to make sure it works first
02:17 VanessaE it works.
02:17 VanessaE I'm in
02:17 VanessaE and rather quickly too
02:17 hoodedice OK peeps
02:17 hoodedice G2G
02:17 hoodedice VanessaE: Why was this version released so early?
02:18 Peacock haven't checked my server in a while
02:18 Peacock ah yes, lava! quelle surprise
02:18 hoodedice lol
02:19 VanessaE hoodedice: because random "must be new years release!!!!!111111one"
02:19 VanessaE meanwhile they missed the new year's deadline
02:19 Peacock well people did manage to take down one of the force fields trapping them lol
02:19 hoodedice With bugs
02:19 hoodedice OFC
02:19 Peacock the ferengi love bugs, it must be a ferengi release :P
02:19 hoodedice Bah. Minetest is indeed developed by a bunch of lunatics
02:20 Peacock autism isn't the same as lunacy :P
02:20 VanessaE blaise:  https://github.com/minetest​-technic/unified_inventory
02:22 blaise awesome..
02:34 VanessaE blaise:  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3587  ~~  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7239
02:37 VanessaE (links posted here because minetest's clipboard is STILL busted on linux and NO I am not gonna install some random clipboard manager just to make a basic function like that work properly)
02:37 Peacock lol dont worry, they havent fixed the failed to allocate player thing either :P
02:38 Peacock they could release a new version every two days and we'd still have most of the same bugs in a year :P
02:42 blaise eh, how to I select which game to use?
02:42 blaise VanessaE: I'm using the test server?
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02:42 VanessaE blaise: you have to edit world.mt
02:42 VanessaE change that to point to the game you use
02:43 VanessaE for minetest_game, make it say,  gameid = minetest
02:43 VanessaE put your mods in worlds/Your_World/worldmods
02:43 blaise VanessaE: is that the equivelent of --gameid <variable> ?
02:43 VanessaE yep, about the same thing
02:44 VanessaE worlds/Your_World/world.mt -->  gameid = minetest  (or whatever)
02:44 VanessaE worlds/Your_World/worldmods/homedecor   (etc)
02:44 VanessaE that makes a little more sense I guess :)
02:45 VanessaE this is how I manage the games and mods on my servers.
02:45 blaise don't I need to select minetest_st
02:45 blaise don't I need to select minetest_game
02:45 VanessaE eh?
02:45 blaise I mean?
02:45 VanessaE nope
02:45 blaise hrmm
02:45 VanessaE if you change it in your world.mt, that becomes the world's default game to use
02:45 blaise is minetest_game some kind of singleplayer campain?
02:45 VanessaE assuming you have installed that game.
02:45 VanessaE nope
02:45 VanessaE minetest_game is the "real" game
02:46 VanessaE it's the one you're supposed to use in production
02:46 VanessaE "minimal" is really meant for development testing
02:46 * blaise scratches head
02:46 blaise ah..
02:46 VanessaE both are collections of Lua mods and such
02:46 blaise am I using minimal?
02:46 VanessaE yep
02:46 VanessaE pretty sure
02:46 VanessaE it looked like it anyway
02:46 blaise I guess I should fix that?
02:46 VanessaE but lemme go in again
02:47 VanessaE wait no
02:47 VanessaE this ain't minimall
02:47 VanessaE -l
02:47 VanessaE it's just that you've got "the green guy" showing up sometimes
02:47 blaise my world.mt says this
02:47 blaise gameid = minetest
02:47 blaise backend = sqlite3
02:47 VanessaE right
02:47 VanessaE ok
02:47 VanessaE so you're fine
02:47 VanessaE you're good to g
02:47 VanessaE go*
02:48 blaise shouldn't it say leveldb ?
02:48 VanessaE bnope
02:48 Peacock lol going around randomly killing all my players, so they're all paranoid now XD
02:48 VanessaE leveldb only if you intentionally wanna use that for your backen
02:48 VanessaE d
02:48 VanessaE sqlite is the default because that's what everyone already has.
02:48 Peacock i love big backends and i cannot lie
02:48 blaise people here said it was faster
02:49 VanessaE blaise: it is under some circumstances, but idk how to properly activate it.  It might be a small matter of deleting map.sqlite and changing the backend setting there in world.mt
02:49 VanessaE but make sure you compiled with leveldb support, of course
02:50 VanessaE I say deleting map.sqlite because you said you were gonna reset the map anyway
02:50 blaise meh, I'll just roll with what I got I guess
02:50 blaise if I recompile with luajit support will it make the server faster?
02:51 VanessaE yes
02:51 VanessaE it'll make your mods take less CPU
02:51 VanessaE mapgen will run faster too
02:51 VanessaE btw,
02:51 VanessaE install moretrees ;)
02:51 Peacock cpus, om nom nom
02:51 VanessaE (needs the plantlife modpack.  expect some mapgen lag)
02:52 Hirato you just need to change the sqlite3 string to leveldb, and it's done
02:52 blaise Hirato: do I have to convert it or something?
02:52 blaise or will it detect and convert on its own?
02:53 Hirato I think it will effectively reset the whole map
02:53 Peacock well you just need to open it in emacs, learn some bash, and compile your own kernel, and you should be good to go :)
02:54 blaise VanessaE: my server seems to be based in /var/lib/minetest/.minetest/
02:55 blaise VanessaE: after that there is var/lib/minetest/.minetest/worlds/world/
02:55 blaise VanessaE: do I need to put my mods in var/lib/minetest/.minetest/worlds/world/mods
02:55 blaise ?
02:56 VanessaE if your minetest is global, then you put your stuff in the homedir of the user that runs minetest
02:56 VanessaE for example,
02:56 VanessaE my servers run as username "minetest:
02:56 VanessaE my servers run as username "minetest" rather
02:56 VanessaE so,
02:57 blaise mine does too.. but there is no ~ for user minetest
02:57 VanessaE and the servers are installed globally in /usr/local/
02:57 VanessaE so /home/minetest/.minetest/worlds  etc etc
02:57 VanessaE you run them as user "minetest"?
02:57 blaise yes
02:57 VanessaE ok, make a homedir for that user then
02:57 VanessaE you'll need it
02:58 blaise minetest 15746 12.1  3.9 144032 82412 ?        Ssl  01:31  10:27 /usr/games/bin minetestserver --logfile /var/lib/minetest/minetest-server.log
02:58 blaise hrmmmmm
02:58 VanessaE don't put stuff under /var or /usr or whatever, those are *supposed* to be root-only
02:59 VanessaE mkdir -p /home/minetest/.minetest; chown -R minetest /home/minetest/
02:59 VanessaE and move all your shit there where it belongs :)
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03:01 Hirato I install mods as part of the package building process, so they're in /usr/share/minetest - alias, the mod viewer/configure dialog won't pick them up :/
03:01 Peacock lol and my friends asked why i left the city: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre​al/video-shows-montreal-police-offic​er-threatening-panhandler-1.2482437
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03:04 VanessaE you really shouldn't put them there
03:04 VanessaE less'n of course you install them from the debian repo
03:04 blaise minetest:x:113:35:added by portage for minetest:/var/lib/minetest:/sbin/nologin
03:04 blaise lmao
03:04 VanessaE (some of mine are slated to go into the official repo soon, once they pass whatever quality controls are needed)
03:05 VanessaE wait, strike that
03:05 Hirato I install mods as part of the package building process, so they're in /usr/share/minetest - alias, the mod viewer/configure dialog won't pick them up :/
03:05 VanessaE pipeworks went in!
03:05 VanessaE woo!
03:05 * VanessaE dances a jig
03:05 Hirato good job
03:05 VanessaE http://packages.debian.org/j​essie/minetest-mod-pipeworks
03:06 kahrl <VanessaE> don't put stuff under /var or /usr or whatever, those are *supposed* to be root-only <-- that's not true
03:06 kahrl my /var/www for example is owned by apache
03:07 VanessaE well I suppose so
03:07 VanessaE I always treated everything outside of /home as forbidden
03:07 VanessaE old habits, etc
03:08 Hirato oh... I had thought you got it into the official repo :(
03:09 Hirato er. .you know what I mean: minetest_game
03:11 Peacock ET phones /home
03:11 Hirato there's no place like ~
03:12 Peacock unless you're homeless, in which case it's /tmp :P
03:12 Hirato hardcore
03:13 Peacock i saw "hardcore" a lot surfing for X-Files torrents, though they weren't the 90s sci-fi show i was looking for :P
03:15 VanessaE Hirato: no, not in minetest_game, I mean into the official debian package repository
03:16 VanessaE they approached me, asked for my blessing.  I was quite happy to say yes :D
03:16 blaise VanessaE: so, unified inventory is the best inventory mod?
03:16 VanessaE blaise: imho, yes
03:16 VanessaE others like inventory+ or whatever it's called
03:16 Hirato it's quite laggy in a server roundtrip kind of way :P
03:16 VanessaE it kinda depends on whether you need armor
03:16 VanessaE UI doesn't show/work with it (yet)
03:16 VanessaE I+ does I guess
03:17 kaeza there's also modmenu
03:17 VanessaE Hirato: latency isn't exactly equivalent to lag
03:19 kaeza 3d_armor supports it
03:19 VanessaE Hirato: there's more to display to it takes longer to render
03:19 VanessaE Hirato: but that's more of a client-side issue than a server issue
03:19 VanessaE Hirato: as most of the time is spent waiting for the client's render-to-texture and extrude-for-wield code.
03:19 VanessaE anything else will behave about the same as any other inventory mod
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03:19 arkmabat I missed two versions of minetest! wow! Newest isn't going back to main screen though :(
03:19 ShadowNinja UI has a API now, so armor can use it.
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03:19 arkmabat I LOVE the modstore
03:20 ShadowNinja 0.4.9 is a bit buggy, my bug wasn't fixed before release, so I won't be updating.
03:20 Hirato except i'm not talking about the rendering side of it at all :P
03:20 Hirato but rather the whole "wait 3 seconds for actions to acknowledged on localhost" thing
03:21 arkmabat Yeah, I never tried 4.8, might do that
03:21 VanessaE all inventory mods will do that I guess
03:21 VanessaE arkmabat: 0.4.8*
03:21 arkmabat sorry, yes
03:21 arkmabat does it have a modstore?
03:22 VanessaE indeed so
03:22 VanessaE modstore is still experimental though
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03:22 VanessaE there are lots more mods on the forums and those are usually more up-to-date also
03:22 blaise so I don't need minetest_game to run a server?
03:23 VanessaE you'll probably need it for now
03:23 VanessaE eventually you could develop your own game though
03:23 * blaise scratches head
03:23 VanessaE but most games for minetest servers are based on it.
03:23 arkmabat Right, it was just a pain to hunt and figure out what version worked with what etc. Of course, monorail doesn't work in 0.9.8 dang
03:23 blaise I thought it was for singleplayer only ?
03:23 VanessaE minetest_game supplies most of the basic content such as dirt, trees, stone, coal, iron, etc etc etc
03:24 VanessaE nope, servers and singleplayer
03:24 VanessaE my game that runs on my Survival and Creative servers is based on it.
03:24 VanessaE heavily modified.
03:24 VanessaE (and modded :) )
03:24 arkmabat Could there be irc built-in to minetest
03:24 VanessaE arkmabat: there's a mod for that.
03:24 arkmabat !
03:24 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3905
03:25 * NekoGloopMkIII curls up in VanessaE's lap
03:25 arkmabat Cool, thanks. Props to everyone who works so hard to make this happen!
03:25 VanessaE hey neko.
03:26 VanessaE arkmabat: I use that mod on all five of my servers, to link them with three others through a common channel over on the Inchra network, so all eight servers basically share a chat.
03:27 VanessaE arkmabat: bear in mind the IRC mod requires you to install an extra library, but this is easy to do (at least in linux) and there are helper scripts, plus ShadowNinja can help you get it going too
03:27 arkmabat Nice
03:27 Hirato which library?
03:27 arkmabat Oh wow. Yeah, that might go over my head.
03:27 VanessaE Hirato: luasocket I think it was?
03:27 VanessaE it comes with the mod
03:28 Hirato hmm, make ssense
03:28 arkmabat Though I am beginning some beginners programming courses this semester.
03:28 VanessaE arkmabat: don't worry, it's not hard to figure out
03:28 VanessaE you just need to know how to compile, or maybe there's a precompiled lib you can just straight up install :)
03:28 arkmabat That would be nice
03:29 arkmabat It's not a big deal right now... but thanks
03:30 blaise VanessaE: areas  mesecons  moreblocks  moreores  moretrees  pipeworks  plantlife  player_texture  technic  unified_inventory are the mods I've installed so far
03:31 blaise VanessaE: should I install any others?
03:31 blaise anyone recommend any must have mods for minetest?
03:31 VanessaE that's a good set.
03:31 VanessaE mesecons and technic can cause runtime lag, watch your CPU usage with those
03:32 VanessaE moretrees+plantlife will cause some mapgen lag but that's to be expected.
03:32 arkmabat I love monorail when it works
03:32 VanessaE the rest should be pretty benign.
03:32 blaise farming, carts, and nature pack ?
03:33 arkmabat 0.4.8 Doesn't lock up under Win7 when I choose to go back to the menu, in-game. 0.4.9 does.
03:33 VanessaE farming is part of minetest_game
03:33 VanessaE nature_pack is outdated, don't use it
03:33 VanessaE carts is okay
03:33 Peacock so i can bang sheep from minetest_game?
03:33 arkmabat NO
03:33 Peacock lol
03:34 Broam mod not found: sheep_bang
03:36 blaise how about PilzAdam-mobs-c49cc47.zip ?
03:36 arkmabat I like the new seed gen thing
03:36 Peacock i dont think you can bang pilzadam's mobs either
03:37 arkmabat Are there any seeds that are programmed to do something
03:37 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Reenable -dev suffix 4d22977509 2014-01-02T19:36:13-08:00 http://git.io/KS6trg
03:37 blaise is PilzAdam-mobs-c49cc47.zip good to have?
03:37 VanessaE I use it on two of my servers
03:37 VanessaE it works well enough
03:37 Peacock well mobs in general slow the game down, depends on your hardware
03:37 blaise is there better?
03:37 VanessaE adds some life to an otherwise totally dead server :)
03:37 VanessaE well, I use the git repo, https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs
03:37 Peacock walking_dead mod :P reanimates dead players
03:38 blaise lol
03:38 VanessaE that zip looks like it's the current git HEAD though
03:38 blaise dead_island mod ?
03:38 Peacock tchernobyl mod = makes an area radioactive/decay :P
03:38 arkmabat Cool
03:41 blaise VanessaE: what about this list here? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3621
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03:41 arkmabat If you want dead_island mod, go to https://minecraft.net/classic/list
03:41 VanessaE A few of those are out of date but that's a good list to start with, yes
03:41 blaise are flowers needed ?
03:42 VanessaE ignore:  flat land generator, junglegrass, diamonds, mese tools
03:42 VanessaE flowers comes with minetest_game
03:42 VanessaE (ignore those ^^^ because they are outdated and no longer needed anyway)
03:42 blaise armor ?
03:43 VanessaE not sure about the armor mod
03:43 VanessaE I don't use it
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03:55 blaise okay, so I have another question..
03:56 blaise this gameid stuff
03:56 VanessaE yexs?
03:56 VanessaE yes?
03:57 blaise if it's set to minetest, will it conflict with other servers using the same world name?
03:57 VanessaE nope.
03:57 blaise how do I individualise my server..
03:57 blaise so that nothing will conflict
03:57 blaise :)
03:57 VanessaE just remember that if they all point to the same game, then they will all use that game.  individualize them by using the worldmods directories.
03:58 VanessaE each world has its own worldmods dir
03:58 VanessaE so make your base game (minetest_game) exactly as basic as it needs to be to cover all your servers, then add to worldmods for each server/world that which each of them needs
03:58 blaise I can host multiple worlds on a server?!
03:58 VanessaE no
03:58 VanessaE one server instance per world
03:59 blaise k
03:59 VanessaE but you can run multiple server instances at a time
03:59 blaise hrmm.....
03:59 VanessaE I run five instances on one system
03:59 VanessaE each instance points to a different world
03:59 WarrTab You can host multiple worlds on one machine, but need separate instances of the server process with different ports.
03:59 VanessaE each world has a game it runs and a collection of worldmods
03:59 blaise I don't think the gentoo init script accounts for that
03:59 VanessaE two of them share a game (mine)
04:00 blaise I suppose I could change the init script name to minetest-server-<world>
04:00 blaise then the conf file would also have that extention..
04:00 VanessaE right
04:00 VanessaE that's what I do
04:00 blaise cool
04:00 VanessaE each server runs its own world and its own conf, writes its own debug file, and loads its own set of worldmods
04:01 blaise I'm going to roll my server over and see if the mods take place, and the leveldb conversion goes well
04:01 VanessaE the only thing they have in common is the games, and then only two of the servers (the ones I just call "Survival" and "Creative") share a common game.
04:01 Hirato if you have players, tell them to grab as much of their crap as possible before the shift :p
04:01 VanessaE there's nothing to grab, it's a new map anyway
04:02 Hirato haha, have fun then :p
04:03 Hirato don't forget to build with -DENABLE_LEVELDB=1
04:04 blaise already done
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04:08 blaise 04:07:53: ERROR[EmergeThread0]: Blank block data in database (datastr.length() == 0) (3,0,-3)
04:08 blaise :(
04:08 VanessaE man I thought that was fixed.
04:09 VanessaE what version of minetest is that?
04:09 blaise 04:07:54: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: Invalid data in MapBlock (3,1,-3)
04:09 Hirato I haven't had any errors, just blocks that wouldn't load
04:11 blaise 0.4.8
04:11 blaise 04:07:54: ERROR[main]: You can ignore this using [ignore_world_load_errors = true].
04:11 blaise do I need to put that somewhere ?
04:12 Hirato oh, grab 0.4.9 or build form source :P
04:13 VanessaE looks like 0.4.9 is a bit crashy
04:13 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=124010#p124010
04:14 blaise should I wipe my world?
04:14 blaise maybe I need to regenerate ?
04:14 blaise hrmm....
04:14 VanessaE idk
04:15 VanessaE regenerating will only delay that bug
04:15 VanessaE it will happen again
04:15 VanessaE (and it has, for me also)
04:15 VanessaE it's since been fixed in git
04:16 VanessaE so maybe 0.4.9 will fix it for you
04:19 blaise :\
04:19 VanessaE it's worth a try
04:20 VanessaE that glitch is a false bug
04:20 VanessaE it's not supposed to crash the server
04:26 blaise :(
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04:27 * grondilu is trying to connect to VanessaE 's survival server, and is surprised by the time it takes for textures and stuff to load  :/
04:28 Peacock a couple of hundred mods and a hires texpack will do that :P
04:28 Hirato It's the dolphin conspiracy, I tel lyou!
04:29 VanessaE grondilu: there are almost 7000 items to load
04:29 grondilu maybe I should try your other server?   It's just that I've never played survival in minetest so I wanted to try that.
04:30 VanessaE (pipeworks just lost a bunch of weight over the past week, some 600 node defs alone)
04:30 Peacock got rid of the on/off bit?
04:30 VanessaE creative or survival will both take a while to load, make sure you have cURL support in your client.
04:30 VanessaE Peacock: 6d facedir
04:30 Peacock that helps too
04:30 VanessaE Peacock: I am, however, working on a total rewrite of the water transport code.  fee new_flow_logic branch
04:30 VanessaE s/fee/see/
04:31 * grondilu is in
04:31 Peacock well i rewrote it a couple times since the last one i sent ya :P so yeah
04:31 VanessaE Peacock: pipes will now be based on water content, something akin to CFM or Joules.
04:31 VanessaE (if you go with the water <-> electricity cognitive model)
04:32 Peacock well the last rewrite i did had it storing pressure and the name of the liquid (transport any liquid)
04:32 VanessaE so far the basics of flowing and transport are working
04:32 VanessaE I'll be adding transport of "just any" liquid some time later on, maybe
04:32 VanessaE but I got tired of oscillating pipes and stuff
04:32 VanessaE so I rewrote it to use a self-balancing pressure-based algorithm instead
04:32 Peacock its not tricky, if youre storing pressure or joules or whatever, just store the name of the source liquid and pass it on
04:32 blaise I've created a minetest-0.4.9.ebuild for funtoo.. I had one that I made for gentoo already
04:33 blaise are the client's intercompatable?
04:33 VanessaE I know, just haven't gotten around to it yet.
04:33 Peacock oscillating?
04:33 VanessaE Peacock: yeah, if you build too many nearby loops, you could get the pipes to start oscillating on/off.
04:34 VanessaE now they only turn "on" if their internal level is above a certain point, and only after the balancing algorithm has been run for the current set.
04:34 VanessaE need to add some hysteresis though.
04:34 Peacock yeah i remember that, had to fix that stuff a year ago
04:36 Peacock though i called it the system feeding into itself, not oscillating, though i guess its the same thing
04:36 Peacock ideally pipes would work really well with a couple of basic classes
04:37 Peacock (lua)
04:38 Peacock though lua classes are even more awkward than php classes so i never got around to it lol
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04:42 blaise lol
04:43 blaise I can't figure out how to enable luajit on gentoo to save my life
04:43 blaise lmao
04:45 kahrl blaise: add luajit to USE?
04:45 blaise I tried it
04:46 kahrl if that doesn't add it, the ebuild is broken
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04:46 arkmabat Made an Ice Castle: http://imgur.com/MP2umP5
04:46 arkmabat And a fireplace inside: http://imgur.com/3VlmmG9
04:46 blaise kahrl: [ebuild     U  ] games-action/minetest-0.4.9::local [0.4.8::gentoo] USE="curl leveldb nls server sound truetype -dedicated (-luajit)" 0 kB
04:47 blaise as you can see, it's in weirdo brackets..
04:47 arkmabat It surprized me at first, I stuck a torch on the wall and it started melting haha
04:47 blaise and I dont even know what that means..
04:47 arkmabat The ice blocks
04:47 kahrl blaise: that probably means something masked it
04:47 blaise but it's not masked though..
04:48 blaise I have luajit-2.0.2 compiled and available
04:48 kahrl not the package but the use flag
04:48 * blaise raises a few eyebrows he didn't even know he had
04:48 blaise hrmm
04:48 blaise oah well
04:49 blaise maybe one day it'll work
04:49 blaise lmao
04:49 kahrl 27 Oct 2013; Julian Ospald <hasufell@gentoo.org> package.use.mask: mask luajit useflag for games-action/minetest
04:49 arkmabat The ice blocks melting was a good touch.
04:50 VanessaE ShadowNinja: ^^^^ quote for the minetest.net main page   :-)
04:50 VanessaE [01-02 23:48] * blaise raises a few eyebrows he didn't even know he had
04:51 kahrl blaise: mkdir -p /etc/portage/profile
04:51 kahrl blaise: echo games-action/minetest -luajit >> /etc/portage/profile/package.use.mask
04:52 VanessaE I thought there was a more graceful way to do that in gentoo?
04:52 kahrl dunno
04:52 VanessaE been too long since I last ran it
04:53 VanessaE (the racing stripes and "Type-R" sticker faded ages ago ;) )
04:56 kahrl my emerge has been racing to update everything for the last 9 hours...
04:57 VanessaE heh
04:57 VanessaE no matter how fast your PC is, it still takes three days to install gentoo :)
04:57 VanessaE (thank G*d for distcc and ccache)
04:57 blaise meh, can't get the patches right
04:57 blaise beh
04:57 blaise bleh
04:57 blaise BLEH
04:57 VanessaE BLEH!!!!
04:58 Peacock in the days of XP, linux was superior :P
04:58 VanessaE Peacock: ever used gentoo?
04:58 Peacock the economy didn't suck, we had more freedoms.... its like the world is upside down now :P
04:59 Peacock now windows is more stable, there are fewer jobs, and we have about as many rights as communist russia lol
05:00 Peacock im looking for evil spock hoping he's willing to switch :P
05:00 VanessaE heh
05:01 VanessaE "Captain Kirk, I shall consider it."
05:01 VanessaE if only.
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05:03 Peacock yeah seriously, internet at 56K might have been slow, but we had it better :P
05:03 blaise I've never had a windows install other than win2k server or win3.11fwg last longer than a year..
05:03 VanessaE now get off your lawn?
05:04 Peacock well with windows there's malware forcing you to reinstall at regular intervals, with linux, there are system updates forcing you to reinstall at regular intervals :P
05:05 Peacock i predict that in ten years we'll all be running operating systems from VMs lol
05:05 VanessaE byte your tongue
05:05 Peacock well its already started with android :P resistance is futile
05:06 blaise I'm gonna try and compile minetest-0.4.9 without the 4 patches..
05:06 blaise they need to be redone...
05:06 blaise and I don't have the patience or the time to mess with it right now
05:07 * blaise comments the patch lines out of the ebuild and creates a manifest
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05:09 blaise nope, it's not gonna work
05:10 Peacock i could have told you that before even knowing what the question was :P
05:10 Ubuntu-Tester Is the Nether workin for any 1 or is it 1 of those bugged mods?
05:10 Peacock pilzadam's nether regions?
05:11 blaise Peacock: you don't even know what I'm talking about.
05:11 blaise the patches I speak of are gentoo specific.
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05:12 Peacock well of course, no one uses gentoo, trisquel is the future, and i for one, hail our new ascii-pron overlords
05:13 blaise how do I regenerate the world?
05:13 Peacock delete it
05:15 us_0gb Peacock: You'd be more convincing if the channel wasn't logged.
05:15 Peacock well that's half the fun isn't it? :P
05:15 us_0gb Yeah, I suppose so.
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05:16 us_0gb Seriously though, Trisquel does have png/jpeg/<whatever> capabilities. No need for ASCII.
05:17 blaise how do I specify what v to generate?
05:17 Peacock aside, without flash the only JO material you got is pictures :P
05:17 us_0gb blaise: You can't regenerate only part of the world. It's the whole world or none of it.
05:17 blaise so how do I regenerate the whole world ?
05:17 us_0gb Peacock: What is "JO"?
05:18 Peacock deer lord, i cant explain that here lol
05:18 us_0gb blaise: Delete the world's map.sqlite file.
05:19 blaise us_0gb: what if I'm using leveldb ?
05:19 us_0gb blaise: Delete the map file. I don't know what it's called for LevelDB.
05:20 VanessaE for leveldb, it's a folder
05:20 VanessaE level.dat or something
05:21 blaise hrmmm
05:21 Peacock level1.db,level2.db,etc.., doublejepoardy.db :P
05:21 VanessaE I forget what, only wsaw it once
05:21 VanessaE -w
05:21 VanessaE right
05:21 us_0gb Peacock: You could always get a DVD.
05:21 us_0gb We do have DVD-cracking software.
05:21 blaise do I need something in world.mt to specify what version to generate? v7 ?
05:22 blaise is there v8 or v9 ?
05:22 Peacock theres libdvdcss i think
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05:22 Peacock though i think you know stallmans' views on that
05:22 VanessaE blaise: no, and stick with mg v6
05:22 blaise k
05:22 VanessaE v7 is not production ready
05:22 VanessaE and indev is v6 with lots of extra stuff added
05:22 Peacock i cant imagine an opensource girlfriend though, whatever you do to her, you'd have to let others do the same :/
05:23 VanessaE I think
05:23 * blaise facepalms
05:23 blaise 05:22:55: ERROR[main]: Subgame [] could not be found.
05:23 blaise I broke it
05:23 VanessaE what'd you use for the gameid field?
05:24 blaise minetest
05:24 us_0gb Peacock: I don't know his thoughts on that, but I'm not sure I care. I know my own thoughts on it. The man is only human, you know.
05:25 Peacock we seem to be a minority on that :P
05:25 us_0gb Peacock: I've never had a girlfriend, but I don't think it works that way.
05:25 Peacock depends, if we were in the 70s, it might :P
05:26 us_0gb Yeah, maybe in the 70s.
05:26 VanessaE blaise: odd....
05:26 blaise yeah.....
05:27 Peacock sucks i was born five years too late for the 70s lol
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05:27 us_0gb blaise: Is minetest_game installed? If you deleted the file specifying a game, it will default to minetest_game.
05:27 katyusha goodnight all
05:28 Peacock NoooooooooooooooO!
05:28 * blaise facepalms
05:28 blaise lmao
05:28 us_0gb katyusha: Good night.
05:28 katyusha :-)
05:28 us_0gb blaise: It's world.mt.
05:29 Peacock .mt for Moo Testament, the bible of cow
05:29 us_0gb Ah, I was unaware of that.
05:29 us_0gb I wondered what it stood for.
05:30 Peacock you'd think the gov't would hire me for disinformation lol
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05:35 blaise k, I just wiped the entire world dir
05:35 blaise started from scratch
05:35 blaise it seems to be working
05:36 blaise although.. quite a few lines were added to my world.mt http://bpaste.net/show/164153/
05:37 blaise should all those be set to false like they are?
05:37 Peacock ugh, that load_mod crap lol
05:38 us_0gb Yeah, I'm not a fan of that either. It would be nice if it only had it for modules that WERE loaded, and just assumed false for any not listed.
05:38 blaise so, uhrm... do I need to set all those to true ?
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05:38 blaise what's up with all that...
05:39 us_0gb blaise: They only need to be set to true if you wont them active in that world.
05:39 blaise ah..
05:39 Peacock id simply suggest creating a new world with the same seed
05:39 blaise seed = world.mt ?
05:39 us_0gb WHat's up with it is that the game decides to explicitly state that all of those modules are not to be loaded.
05:39 blaise btw, I identifyed the problem being leveldb
05:40 us_0gb I actually use a custom subgame for each world that I want added modules in to avoid that mess.
05:40 blaise us_0gb: I didn't have that problem in singleplayer mode....
05:40 Peacock ever since they added and removed that common mods shit the whole mod system has been overly complicated :P
05:40 us_0gb blaise: That's odd. I thought it did it in singleplayer mode as well.
05:40 blaise nah, they're all turned on in singleplayer
05:40 us_0gb Huh. Good to know.
05:40 blaise I didn't mess with anything.. just put the stuff in the mods folder
05:42 us_0gb SO the game is being inconsistent, treating singleplayer mode as special. Lovely.
05:42 us_0gb *So
05:45 blaise 05:44:58: ACTION[main]: WARNING: Mod name conflict detected: "unified_inventory"
05:46 blaise 05:44:58: ACTION[main]: Will not load: /var/lib/minetest/.minetest/m​ods/technic/unified_inventory
05:46 blaise 05:44:58: ACTION[main]: Overridden by: /var/lib/minetest/.minetest/mods/unified_inventory
05:46 blaise so uh...
05:46 blaise technic already has unified_inventory ?
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05:47 us_0gb RealBadAngel decided to bundle a bunch of unrelated things. So short answer, yes.
05:47 blaise nice
05:47 blaise lmao
05:47 blaise and armor requires inventory+ ?
05:48 us_0gb I think so, yes.
05:48 us_0gb Inventory_plus isn't compatible with unified_inventory.
05:48 blaise that sucks
05:48 blaise 05:48:02: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: .../lib/minetest/.minetest/mo​ds/player_texture/init.lua:2: attempt to concatenate a nil value
05:49 blaise :`(
05:49 us_0gb blaise: Pastebin your coppy of that file.
05:49 us_0gb *copy
05:49 blaise guess I need a texture for my player eh?
05:49 blaise k, just a sec
05:50 us_0gb blaise: You shouldn't need one.
05:50 blaise http://bpaste.net/show/164155/
05:51 blaise so, I guess player_texture is b0rk
05:52 us_0gb blaise: Rename the "player_texture" directory "player_textures".
05:52 us_0gb That should fix it.
05:53 blaise I have no player_texture or player_textures
05:53 blaise where is it supposed to be?
05:53 blaise same dir as world.mt ?
05:53 blaise oh wait
05:54 blaise you mean the mod dir
05:54 us_0gb Yeah, that.
05:54 us_0gb Sorry for not being clear.
05:55 VanessaE player_textures is a mod, so it goes where you put e.g. moreores, homedecor and the like
05:59 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Merge pull request #28 from cheapie/master https://gi 2014-01-02T21:58:30-08:00 http://git.io/IOCDJQ
05:59 MinetestBot GIT: cheapie commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Added compatibility with my version of creative_inventory. https://gi 2014-01-02T20:17:25-08:00 http://git.io/T0uRyQ
06:00 blaise what's the best texture pack?
06:00 VanessaE ...
06:00 VanessaE as if you had to ask that when I'm around ;)
06:00 VanessaE actually it depends on the style you like the best
06:01 blaise VanessaE: did you make one?
06:01 VanessaE blaise: I develop and maintain HDX:  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1583
06:02 VanessaE a lot of people like Sphax BDCraft, which is a sort of cartoonish one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5427
06:02 VanessaE some folks like Minetoon:  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=402
06:02 Peacock some folks like that really low res crap that gives headaches lol (ill never figure that out) :P
06:02 VanessaE Misa's pack is popular:  https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=274
06:03 blaise ah, nice
06:03 blaise VanessaE: will your texture pack bring my computer to a crawl ?
06:03 blaise lmao
06:03 VanessaE blaise: only if you use a size that's too big for your hardware to tolerate
06:03 VanessaE mine runs fine with the 256px size.
06:04 VanessaE other folks might do best with the 64px size
06:04 VanessaE etc.
06:04 Peacock bigger is better </black man>
06:04 blaise lol
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06:11 blaise omg I'm gonna die
06:11 blaise I need weapons and/or shelter
06:13 VanessaE ?
06:13 VanessaE oh
06:13 VanessaE well so build one :)
06:15 us_0gb WHat is treeprop.png?
06:16 VanessaE used with the old farmesh
06:16 VanessaE puts fake trees on the landscape where the real ones were
06:16 VanessaE but that's long since been removed from the engine.
06:16 VanessaE I guess the png is obsolete :)
06:17 VanessaE well at least for the 0.4.x serie
06:17 VanessaE +s
06:17 us_0gb So it detected hardcoded nodes then? I'm glad that was removed.
06:17 VanessaE 0.3.x and -classic probably use it though
06:23 us_0gb Quick question. I'm building a new game, and will be using the media from the current games to provide familiarity. Should I keep the image names the same (to provide compatibility with minetest_game texture packs) or rename them to match the modules they are being moved to ("<module>_<image name>.png", to avoid file name clashes with minetest_game modules)?
06:25 VanessaE keep the names the same as they are now.
06:25 VanessaE as long as they serve the same *purpose*
06:25 us_0gb Okay. Thanks!
06:26 Peacock modules or mods?
06:26 us_0gb Modules. I suppose "mods" might be short for such.
06:26 VanessaE I mean, if the front of a furnace still uses default_furnace_front.png (and _front_active.png) then that's fine, for example, but don't go using default_wood.png to represent a special kind of wood other than the "default" :)
06:27 Peacock my_special_wood.png :P
06:27 Peacock can't post that here though :P
06:28 us_0gb VanessaE: Okay, got it.
06:28 kahrl we should make it so that a node can have different textures depending on time of day
06:28 kahrl so we could have default_evening_wood.png and ...nevermind
06:28 VanessaE ......
06:28 VanessaE <joke killer> well there was a branch that could do exactly that. </joke killer>
06:28 us_0gb Legacy has no README file ... no image copyright/license information ....
06:29 VanessaE this one, I thinkL  https://github.com/celeron55/m​inetest/tree/meta_set_nodedef
06:29 VanessaE old as shit, now, though
06:29 kahrl heh
06:33 blaise I can't seem to craft a damn thing..
06:34 VanessaE that's because there aren't any damn things in the default game
06:34 VanessaE you need a mod for that too
06:34 VanessaE what mod was it that had damn things?  nether wasn't it?
06:34 VanessaE ;)
06:35 blaise what can I make with dirt?
06:35 VanessaE nothing
06:35 VanessaE the usesdirt mod adds some stuff
06:35 us_0gb A house.
06:35 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4129
06:35 blaise a mud hut?
06:35 blaise lmao
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06:38 Peacock jokes aside, dynamic node properties would rock :P
06:38 VanessaE indeed they would
06:40 blaise so, I've got a pretty old laptop.. it's got one of these 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS690M [Radeon Xpress 1200/1250/1270]
06:40 Peacock though that's right up there with multicultural lights and different node shapes:P
06:40 blaise VanessaE: what would you recommend to use with your texture pack?
06:42 us_0gb blaise: That sounds like what I've got, and I get about three frames per second even with 16px textures.
06:42 VanessaE I've used an old 9200M with my 64px pack
06:42 VanessaE it was playable.
06:42 VanessaE you just have to try it,
06:42 VanessaE either it works or it doesn't :)
06:43 blaise hrmm
06:43 VanessaE start with the 64px size and see how it behaves, and if you like it
06:44 VanessaE try a larger or smaller size according to your average performance
06:44 Peacock thats what she said
06:44 Peacock :P
06:44 VanessaE ...
06:44 blaise Wanesville eh?
06:44 VanessaE yep
06:45 blaise I spent 20 years in Hendersonville.. :)
06:45 Peacock a prison?
06:45 VanessaE Asheville and Hendersonville are getting hammered right now
06:45 blaise I miss NC pretty bad..
06:45 VanessaE Peacock: a nearby city :P
06:45 blaise VanessaE: weather?
06:45 VanessaE blaise: yeah, winter storm warning + high winds
06:46 blaise I'm up in Frederick, MD atm.. we got about a foot of snow in the last 2-3 hours
06:46 Peacock current forecast here: Snowing, -37c :/
06:46 VanessaE not as bad as the northeast.  I guess New York is getting their asses handed to them right about now
06:46 blaise yeah, pretty much..
06:46 VanessaE exactly
06:47 Peacock sunday and saturday ittl be back to -6c
06:47 Peacock and then.. back down to -23c lol
06:47 VanessaE jeez
06:48 Peacock im worried about my older LCD screen, it keeps making those plastic cracky sounds lol
06:48 VanessaE it's -8°C here at the moment
06:48 VanessaE expected to get down to around -17 in a fe days
06:48 Peacock not so bad :P
06:48 VanessaE few*
06:48 Peacock at -37c i feel the hairs of my beard freeze lol
06:48 VanessaE oy
06:49 Peacock i dont shave when its that cold out lol i need all the help i can get
06:49 VanessaE I'll stay down here in the south
06:49 Peacock yeah im kinda pissed off at the king of france for not holding onto new france lol
06:49 VanessaE I'm a witch most of the year anyway, abe would tell you, but I don't care to know what a witch's titties feel like :P
06:49 Peacock otherwise i'd be in the south too :P
06:50 blaise VanessaE: pardon, where is this minetest/data located?
06:50 Peacock oh well in quebec you could cut diamonds with nipples at these temps :P
06:50 VanessaE blaise: there isn't one - that's old information from the 0.3.x days
06:50 blaise o.O
06:50 VanessaE texture packs go in minetestfolder/textures
06:50 VanessaE e.g. ~/.minetest/textures/HDX-256px
06:50 VanessaE and the like
06:50 blaise thanks
06:51 blaise so I can git clone https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-64
06:51 VanessaE yup
06:51 blaise inside the textures dir ?
06:51 VanessaE that'll work just fine
06:51 VanessaE I keep them all in a separate dir and symlink to them
06:51 VanessaE either way works
06:53 blaise and then I cd ~/.minetest/textures && ln -s hdx-64 all
06:53 * blaise pokes VanessaE
06:54 VanessaE no
06:54 VanessaE just leave the folder name as-is
06:54 VanessaE ~/.minetest/textures/hdx-64
06:54 blaise ah, nice
06:54 VanessaE select it in the menyu
06:54 VanessaE menu*
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06:55 blaise so I can snag several and hop around till I find one I'm comfortable with
06:55 blaise very nice
06:55 blaise my server load is extremely low btw
06:56 VanessaE exactly
06:56 blaise it's an old dual athlon mp 2600+ with a HIS IceQ Radeon HD 4670
06:58 blaise wow, the hdx-64 is a pretty big improvement...
07:03 VanessaE lemme guess?  better fps with HDX than default?
07:06 blaise yeah..
07:06 VanessaE you're not the first person to have that happen
07:06 VanessaE and idk how that works, either
07:06 VanessaE but, I won't complain :)
07:07 us_0gb Hmm. THat is intriguing.
07:14 Peacock "Searching the Internet For Evidence of Time Travelers" http://beta.slashdot.org/story/196371
07:15 VanessaE beta?
07:15 VanessaE BETA?
07:15 VanessaE BETA?!?
07:15 VanessaE YOU should be ashamed!
07:15 VanessaE HERETIC!
07:15 VanessaE BURN HIM!
07:15 Peacock im not a member :P
07:16 blaise kik
07:16 VanessaE s/beta/classic/
07:16 VanessaE and all is right with the world :)
07:16 blaise s/kik/lol/
07:16 blaise sed
07:16 Peacock actually it kinda worries me we haven't seen time travelers - either they're really good at hiding, or we nuke ourselves before we ever reach the ability :P
07:17 Peacock as for the beta shit, i can't get out of it, i tried :P
07:17 blaise I can't find any shrubs to save my life...
07:18 blaise I think I might add the fireplace mod
07:18 VanessaE Peacock: so create an account, sign in, and kiss beta good bye
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07:20 Peacock yeah, until beta becomes default :P
07:21 Peacock besides, every other /. member is onpon reincarnated lol
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07:22 Peacock BIll Gates gave money to charity? "its obvious a proprietary plot to destroy linux!" :p
07:22 Peacock *obviously
07:27 blaise what ever
07:27 blaise the ndis stack for windows networking was directly stolen from bsd
07:27 Peacock yet bsd still sucks (tried it the other day :P)
07:28 blaise openbsd is pretty good for personal computing.. freebsd isn't for the light hearted..
07:28 blaise netbsd is a damn fine production platform.
07:28 Peacock any system that calls a CLI a "liveCD" is a fail in my books :P
07:29 blaise o.O
07:29 blaise O.o
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07:29 October21 the drive for bsd ...
07:30 blaise oh, similar to /dev/sr0
07:30 Peacock though its pretty clear there will never be a "year of the linux desktop", the minute ubuntu got too popular RMS started creating division, you'd almost think he was the paid shill :P
07:30 blaise lol
07:31 Peacock well it wouldn't be too different from what happened to the hippy movements :P
07:33 blaise I can't seem to craft a wooden door... :\
07:33 blaise I have plenty of tree
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07:33 blaise but the texture looks different
07:33 blaise even though they are called the same
07:33 blaise "Tree"
07:33 blaise one is square while the other is round..
07:34 Peacock i think you need the square one
07:37 blaise I tried that already
07:37 blaise and I can't find the round ones that don't have white centers..
07:47 us_0gb "[23:28:51] <Peacock> any system that calls a CLI a "liveCD" is a fail in my books :P" - Agreed.
07:48 Peacock i was really disappointed though :P heard alot of good things about freebsd, but if i cant bootin to a livesession to fix shit, forget it lol
07:49 us_0gb I installed FreeBSD, and it didn't even have a desktop. THat was disappointing. I then tried to install PC-BSD, but it wouldn't even install.
07:49 Peacock jesus christ, i still remember the 80's, no need to go back there lol
07:50 us_0gb What happened in the 80s?
07:50 Peacock michael jackson became a white woman and they were over lol
07:50 us_0gb Ah. I see.
07:50 Peacock also, edward scissorhands, though that might be early 90s
07:51 Peacock it was back when the SImpsons were still funny, that much i know :P
07:51 us_0gb THey were ever funny? I totally missed it.
07:52 us_0gb Though to be honest, I only watched one episode, and it was only because we were required to in a class in high school.
07:52 us_0gb Maybe I just wasn't shown a good one.
07:52 Peacock yeah the first 5-6 seasons were funny, not the 20 that followed
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07:53 Peacock the show kinda jumped the shark when skinners was revealed to be an imposter
07:54 blaise how long will a torch burn?
07:55 October21 maybe no end
07:55 us_0gb In a furnace? Not long. Out of a furnace, it will stay lit forever.
07:56 blaise nice
07:56 blaise I can't believe I can't make a wooden door with wood planks
07:56 blaise :\
07:57 * blaise huddles up to his torch inside his meager wooden shanti
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07:58 us_0gb Doors should be craftable. What subgame are you using? Minetest_game? Minimal?
07:58 blaise minetest_game
07:58 blaise it wants 6 tree's
07:59 VanessaE not trees
07:59 VanessaE wood planks
07:59 VanessaE craft tree -> wood -> x6 -> dor
07:59 blaise but the tree's I find all are white in the center with dark bark.. and it wants all dark
07:59 VanessaE door*
07:59 blaise k, thanks
07:59 VanessaE 1 tree becomes 4 wooden planks
07:59 VanessaE use 6 of those to make a door
08:01 nore Hi all
08:01 VanessaE hey nore
08:01 nore have you seen what the bug was that caused areas not to be possible to see?
08:02 VanessaE I have not.  I was able to pull a listing just fine?
08:02 Peacock yeah i fixed that, i plugged the computer in
08:02 VanessaE however,
08:02 VanessaE I see that the HUD is not working
08:02 VanessaE strange
08:08 nore any wiki moderator here? http://wiki.minetest.net/index.php?title=Talk:Mai​n_Page&amp;curid=499&amp;diff=2063&amp;oldid=2062
08:09 pitriss https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=124156#p124156 //probably spam
08:09 nore indeed
08:12 VanessaE deleted the spammy one
08:12 VanessaE I'll let the other one stand
08:13 VanessaE *checks the wiki*
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08:15 VanessaE fixed.
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08:56 Robby I must say, thanks for this wonderful game, though it needs some polishing still, it is very addictive
08:56 Robby *very*
08:57 VanessaE glad you like it :)
08:57 Robby never played Minecraft before but was looking for a free OSS version, took me a long while to find one
08:57 Robby (this one)
08:57 Robby yea :D
08:57 Robby just discovered this project a couple of days ago
08:58 Robby I setup a vanilla server for me and some friends, we been playing almost all night now
08:58 Robby though the Pentium 4 server I'm running this on is struggling with load at times
08:59 VanessaE yeah it can be a little slow at times, but the engine is always improving
08:59 Robby (but new and better machine coming soon, this box has served me well but now 2013..its showing its age)
08:59 Robby :)
09:00 Robby I need to look into some mods, which are the best ones and which are still maintained/updated
09:00 Robby like 'areas'
09:00 Robby and a sethome mod which I saw somewhere
09:00 VanessaE oh that's a pretty big question
09:00 VanessaE there are lots and lots of mods
09:01 Robby yeah, I've seen it on the forum and the website
09:01 VanessaE better you should look in the Mod Releases section of the Minetest forum
09:01 Robby yeah
09:01 VanessaE pretty much everything there should still be active, or at least still works
09:01 Robby but for now I couldn't stop playing so mods had to wait :p
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09:02 Robby like a friend said, 'its like Lego all over again'
09:02 Robby :P
09:02 VanessaE heh
09:02 VanessaE yeah
09:03 October21 VanessaE: the new version is base on irrlicht-1.8.1 ?
09:03 VanessaE October21: no but it can use it.
09:03 VanessaE it'll work with 1.7.3 and up
09:03 Robby yeah, it can, I compiled my server from git, using irrlicht 1.8.1
09:03 Robby works fine
09:04 October21 i'm using #! (debian 7), there is 1.7.3 on debian 7
09:04 sfan5 VanessaE: 1.7.2 works too, I'm sure MT works with Irrlicht 1.7.x -- 1.9 (git)
09:05 VanessaE sfan5: you sure about 1.7.2?  I thought I'd one or two reports of obscure glitches with that one
09:05 sfan5 VanessaE: all my windows builds use 1.7.2
09:05 sfan5 I recently tried 1.8 but compile errors all over the place
09:06 VanessaE huh
09:06 VanessaE well that's windows :)
09:06 October21 it ok with linux
09:06 VanessaE yu
09:06 VanessaE p
09:09 October21 There are some play the MT in China
09:10 Hirato speaking of compiler issues, why won't you guys fix this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1051 :(
09:10 sfan5 Hirato: I'll do that right now
09:10 Hirato all that has to be done is commenting out that one line, or hiding it behind a -DENBALE_GLES var or something
09:10 Hirato <3
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09:17 VanessaE http://www.dietdoctor.com/wp-cont​ent/uploads/2012/02/Bacon560.jpg
09:18 VanessaE ain't it the truth
09:21 sfan5 Hirato: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1081
09:26 us_0gb VanessaE: That's quite amusing, but I'm going to have to disagree.
09:26 VanessaE why>
09:28 us_0gb Bacon is fatty and bad for us. I argue that it is us bacon lovers who are wrong, if it is even possible to have a right or wrong on such a topic.
09:28 VanessaE fat is not bad for you
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09:28 sfan5 only too much is bad for you
09:28 VanessaE carbs is bad for you
09:28 VanessaE are8
09:29 VanessaE carbs -> insulin response -> calories stored into adipose tissue aka body fat
09:29 VanessaE fat -> ...erm... nothing special happens
09:29 zash everything is bad for you
09:29 us_0gb Okay, no bread and no fatty meats then.
09:29 us_0gb Okay, no anything.
09:29 us_0gb Everyone starves.
09:29 VanessaE no bread, eat all the fatty meat you want, just avoid omega 6.
09:29 VanessaE and for G*d sakes avoid sugar.
09:30 VanessaE it's really not that hard :)
09:30 us_0gb Sugar is in everything though.
09:30 VanessaE strange
09:30 VanessaE *looks at meal she's eating*
09:30 VanessaE doesn't seem to be any in here
09:30 VanessaE cheese, mayo, onion powder, chicken.
09:30 us_0gb Is it in meat? I'm not sure. It is in fruits and vegetables though.
09:31 us_0gb Onion power has sugar, I would thing. Whole onions do.
09:31 VanessaE forget fruit.  veggies are okay
09:31 zash everything has sugar
09:31 us_0gb I'm almost certain cheese does as well.
09:31 zash sugar is added to everything
09:31 VanessaE onion powder doesn't have enough sugar for it to matter, neither does cheese
09:32 VanessaE a bit of lactose, but that's not *added*
09:32 us_0gb I'm not even talking about additives. It's naturally in most foods.
09:32 VanessaE I'm talking about table sugar, sucrose.
09:32 VanessaE you know, the crap no one's supposed to eat
09:32 October21 the Carbohydrates in most food
09:32 us_0gb Ah, sucrose. Yeah, we should probably avoid that.
09:32 VanessaE the stuff they cram down everyone's throats in soda and the like
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09:32 VanessaE (of course that's corn syrup, but same damn thing for the sake of this discussion)
09:44 Hirato sfan5: <3
09:45 Hirato might want to make it a required depend if the option is enabled
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09:58 sfan5 Hirato: done
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10:25 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.info 30003
10:25 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30003 is up (3169ms)
10:27 Megaf sfan5, can you please try my server?
10:28 sfan5 sure
10:30 sfan5 Megaf: doesn't work
10:30 Megaf oh deer
10:30 sfan5 stops at "connecting to server..."
10:31 Megaf sfan5, you using megaf.no-ip.info 30003 right?
10:31 sfan5 yes
10:32 sfan5 oh.. wait
10:32 sfan5 works!
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10:33 Megaf sfan5, there are many mods and not http working properly yet, so it might take a while
10:33 nore how do you define the collision box of a node?
10:33 xyz no releases — people hate us because wow so slow
10:33 xyz releases — people hate us because why the fuck would you release this non-working shit
10:33 xyz ;_;
10:34 sfan5 conclusion: you can't make your users happy
10:34 xyz wrong
10:34 Megaf Im the non-working shit user
10:34 xyz conslusions: users are stupid
10:34 Megaf also the second case developer
10:34 xyz well that's a bit mean
10:35 xyz let's say users don't know what they want
10:35 Megaf sfan5, are you nyankitty?
10:35 sfan5 Megaf: meow, yes
10:35 nore WHY is it selection_box but collisionbox??
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10:36 xyz you're starting to understand this
10:37 xyz also getpos/setpos but get_hp/set_hp and more
10:37 VanessaE meanwhile I will continue to bitch about actual bugs that affect the rest of us "don't know what we want" users.....
10:37 nore wait... that was for entities
10:37 nore is there no way to set the collision box of a node?
10:38 VanessaE nore: nope
10:38 nore :(
10:38 xyz bugs in irrlicht which we can't fix included
10:39 VanessaE s/we can't fix/we aren't willing to fork, patch, and bundle to get around/
10:40 xyz bundling irrlicht is no good, distro package maintainers will hate us
10:40 VanessaE in other words, there are always ways to fix bugs, it's a matter of the desire to fix, not the ability.
10:40 VanessaE hah
10:41 VanessaE that didn't stop you from bundling half a dozen other things with minetest
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10:41 markveidemanis Hello
10:41 VanessaE hi
10:41 markveidemanis How would i get all the items in minetest?
10:42 markveidemanis and textures as in:
10:42 markveidemanis "wool:pink": ("wool_pink.png", "wool_pink.png"),
10:42 VanessaE markveidemanis: grep the debug log.  look for ItemDefManager or something like that
10:42 VanessaE that'll get you the list of items anyway
10:44 markveidemanis will it? ok
10:44 VanessaE xyz: and, no offense intended....you're one to talk about people hating forks.... considering what you and proller maintain
10:44 VanessaE markveidemanis: assuming you have the debug level set high enough, yes
10:44 VanessaE (range 1 to 4, not sure at what level those messages are added)
10:46 xyz what did I say about people hating forks?
10:46 VanessaE xyz: so if you two can fork minetest to "fix" what you guys consider to be deficiencies in its code, then you guys can fork irrlicht and fix bugs in it that keep it from minetest from working right - assuming it isn't in fact minetest that is bugged.  The difference being, that fork would in theory be mergeable back to mainline irrlicht.
10:46 VanessaE [01-03 05:39] <xyz> bundling irrlicht is no good, distro package maintainers will hate us
10:46 VanessaE bundle == fork, duh
10:46 VanessaE and I'm pretty sure distro package maintainers are people too
10:46 xyz wat
10:47 xyz okay
10:47 xyz how about you go with that idea to dev
10:47 VanessaE no.
10:47 VanessaE because most of the devs don't give two shits about my ideas.
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10:48 VanessaE but see, here's the thing: you bring up irrlicht, so I guess you refer to the copy&paste bug under linux.... but how can it be irrlicht that's bugged if it works in some window managers and not in others, and works fine in windows, apparently?
10:48 VanessaE whereas, I wasn't even *thinking* about that bug.
10:49 VanessaE I was thinking totally abstractly.
10:49 VanessaE (in fact, what I had on my mind was networking related)
10:53 markveidemanis My server refuses to report to servers.minetest.net
10:53 markveidemanis ALthough my windows PC does it fone
10:53 VanessaE markveidemanis: ShadowNinja has the same problem
10:53 markveidemanis *fine
10:53 VanessaE but for some reason it works for me
10:53 xyz VanessaE: dunno maybe that's not irrlicht
10:53 markveidemanis do i need to set thes ervers ip?
10:54 VanessaE xyz: everyone who has ever cared to comment from a position of authority (== is a core dev capable of fixing the issue were it minetest's fault) has blamed it on irrlicht.
10:54 VanessaE markveidemanis: allegedly no, but I do so anyway
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10:54 VanessaE (I point to my servers' domain though)
10:54 nore markveidemanis, I saw you wanted to know how the forth computer worked yesterday?
10:55 xyz VanessaE: dunno, it's not like I'm interested in looking into that at the moment
10:55 VanessaE xyz: which makes me more than a little curious as to which issue you're talking about then
10:56 markveidemanis fucking hell
10:56 markveidemanis VanessaE, thats a lot of shit to sift through
10:57 VanessaE markveidemanis: what is?
10:57 xyz VanessaE: ah, I was talking about copy paste, right
10:58 VanessaE xyz: right, see I was thinking, originally, about the problems you and proller already solved in fm, things like server lag on non-cURL join and how we're still piddle-farting around in mt with that (with sapier's work being our best shot so far)
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11:00 VanessaE or stupid little shit like this client crash on exit-to-menu that seem to be affecting some users
11:00 nore markveidemanis, still want to know?
11:01 VanessaE (happens to me also but I always exit to OS, so it never actually *affects* me, save for waiting for the connection to the server to time out)
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11:12 markveidemanis Hello againb
11:12 markveidemanis Did i netsplit?
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11:12 markveidemanis |How would i get node name, then textures?
11:13 markveidemanis ItemDefManager was a complete fail
11:13 VanessaE why do you need to get that?
11:13 markveidemanis i got 700 kb of garbage and i wasnt going to sify through it
11:13 VanessaE in-game there is a table you can consult to get nodenames
11:13 VanessaE from there you can get all textures too
11:14 markveidemanis WHIch table?
11:14 VanessaE minetest.registered_nodes I guess
11:14 VanessaE yeah
11:14 markveidemanis so i shove that i  a mod
11:14 markveidemanis how do i write to file in lua?
11:15 VanessaE iterate through that, and check the wield_image, inventory_image, and tiles fields of each node name that comes back
11:15 VanessaE look up io.open() and io.write() in the PiL.
11:15 markveidemanis io.open("nodelist.txt")
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11:17 markveidemanis http://pastie.org/8596613
11:17 VanessaE but what are you doing with all this anyway?
11:18 markveidemanis to get the nodes and textures for minetestmapper
11:18 markveidemanis so it would work
11:18 markveidemanis the fancy slow, isometric one
11:18 VanessaE not sure if your code will work
11:18 markveidemanis attempt to call field 'resgistered_nodes' (a nil value)
11:19 VanessaE but as for the isometric one (which is onomatopoeia) idk if that's what it wants or not
11:19 markveidemanis my code was fine :P
11:19 markveidemanis first mod !!
11:19 markveidemanis you could say
11:19 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1601
11:19 VanessaE minetest.registered_nodes is a table
11:19 VanessaE not a function
11:19 VanessaE iterate through it
11:19 markveidemanis resgistered nodes i put
11:19 markveidemanis fail :)
11:20 VanessaE for node in ipairs(minetest.registered_nodes) do  ....  code here   ....  end
11:20 VanessaE and you'd need to serialize the table for writing
11:20 VanessaE and even then all you're doing is writing out a raw table
11:21 VanessaE you'll still have to parse it from outside of minetest
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11:21 nore VanessaE, no... don't serialize it, write it in the correct format
11:22 VanessaE nore: well, whatever the right format is, I'm not that good with writing out tables to a file
11:22 xyz VanessaE: well what can I do about them not accepting our changes
11:23 VanessaE xyz: nothing at all, but my point is they're not accepting *anyone's* changes in that subsystem right now.  my point is SHIT OR GET OFF THE POT
11:24 VanessaE (that's not directed at you but at the devs who are responsible for accepting and rejecting the code that currently exists to fix the issue)
11:24 VanessaE (which I presume is not your particular responsibility)
11:24 xyz sapier's doing his tcp/udp stuff though which should fix that once and for all
11:24 VanessaE until this morning, I've been using sapier build.
11:25 nore VanessaE, about bundling irrlicht: it could fix a couple of other bugs too (like the broken "Local install" button)
11:25 VanessaE I reverted to minetest vanilla to fix a conflict with the areas mod's HUD (which will probably be fixed once sapier rebases again)
11:25 VanessaE but up to that point it seemed to work pretty good
11:25 VanessaE though I have not tested his tcp code yet, ony the udp stuff
11:25 VanessaE sapier's*
11:26 VanessaE nore: ah, see I wasn't aware of that bug
11:27 VanessaE xyz: problem is, with sapier's tcp/udp stuff is that no one in the team wants to just fucking say "ok, sapier, here's deal - you make this work properly in all common cases and we'll merge it."
11:27 nore (the problem was that Irrlicht sets the local to the default locale in the system, so formspec gets broken if the locale does not use "." for floating point values)
11:27 VanessaE it's all hemming and hawing about this or that or the other poossible alternative lib like enet or whatever
11:27 VanessaE here's the deal*
11:27 VanessaE I keep out words here there :P
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11:28 john_minetest Hello everypony
11:28 VanessaE nore: oh yes, I think I remember something about that
11:28 VanessaE hey john
11:28 VanessaE also, my typing sucks :P
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11:33 * sfan5 puts a kitten on john_minetest's head
11:34 * MegafAtWork like bunnies
11:34 * sfan5 puts a bunny on MegafAtWork's head
11:34 MegafAtWork :)
11:34 MegafAtWork My girlfriend would find that pretty cute
11:36 sfan5 take a picture!
11:36 VanessaE heh
11:36 sfan5 :P
11:37 john_minetest Open gimp and gimp a picture of you with a bunny on your head.
11:37 * sfan5 gimps a gimp using gimp
11:38 john_minetest The gimp is called wilbur iirc.
11:40 john_minetest *wilber
11:40 john_minetest http://roble.pntic.mec.es/jprp0006/t​ecnologia/4eso_informatica/gimp/2_ca​pas/practica21/imagenes/Wilber.png
11:41 john_minetest What kind of animal is that? :D
11:42 VanessaE a weasel :P
11:43 VanessaE (idk what he is actually)
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12:04 * markveidemanis puts a dolphin on john_minetest's head
12:05 * john_minetest puts an angry wilber on markveidemanis' head
12:05 * MegafAtWork puts hair gel on everyones head
12:05 * zash puts a panncake on the head of a bunny
12:05 VanessaE heh
12:06 john_minetest Hey, One Game A Month is awesome.
12:06 MegafAtWork Wilber - > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMP#Mascot
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12:16 VanessaE hey taoki
12:16 MegafAtWork specing: Hi there
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12:20 marko_ good day
12:21 john_minetest Hello marko_
12:21 marko_ question my sisters kid can t conect to my public server
12:22 john_minetest Can anybody else connect to that server?
12:22 marko_ i fowarded the port in my router
12:22 marko_ my brother is on the same network cnects ok
12:22 marko_ conects
12:23 john_minetest You can PM MinetestBot with "/msg MinetestBot !up <ip> <port>", he will tell you if your server is up.
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12:26 marko_ minetestbot is not online
12:28 marko_ i have Linux mint
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12:33 sfan5 marko_: MinetestBot it right here
12:33 sfan5 MinetestBot!
12:33 MinetestBot sfan5!
12:34 marko_ do i write it in chat
12:39 MegafAtWork MinetestBot!
12:39 MinetestBot MegafAtWork!
12:39 marko_ ok can anyone try conecting
12:41 Hirato MinetestBot!
12:41 MinetestBot Hirato!
12:41 Hirato Baguette!
12:42 marko_ can i give ip and port is it possible
12:42 marko_ fear of ban hammer
12:42 MegafAtWork marko_: sure, you can do like
12:43 MegafAtWork !up megaf.no-ip.info 30003
12:43 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30003 is up (524ms)
12:43 MegafAtWork replace with your address and port
12:43 marko_ 192.168.1.207 30000
12:44 MegafAtWork ok, lets start from tha begining
12:44 MegafAtWork that IP is a local network IP
12:44 MegafAtWork not an internet IP
12:44 marko_ yep
12:44 MegafAtWork with that IP address you can only connect from your local network
12:45 MegafAtWork marko_:  you can see your external IP here http://canihazip.com/
12:45 john_minetest marko_:
12:45 john_minetest !up 192.168.1.207 30000
12:45 MinetestBot 192.168.1.207:30000 seems to be down
12:46 marko_ 89.172.0.245
12:47 marko_ that is what i got on that web page
12:48 MegafAtWork !up 89.172.0.245 30000
12:48 MinetestBot 89.172.0.245:30000 seems to be down
12:48 marko_ try now
12:48 MegafAtWork marko_: now you need to set up a NAT rule on your modem
12:48 MegafAtWork !up 89.172.0.245 30000
12:48 MinetestBot 89.172.0.245:30000 seems to be down
12:49 marko_ 89.172.0.245 30003
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12:49 marko_ reversed to 30000
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12:50 marko_ i need to open port
12:50 marko_ just a sec
12:51 MegafAtWork marko_:  you can do !up 89.172.0.245 30000
12:51 MegafAtWork !up 89.172.0.245 30000
12:51 MinetestBot 89.172.0.245:30000 seems to be down
12:53 marko_ The highlighted local IP address does not lie within the IP address range of your device specified by the subnet mask. Please choose another address.
12:53 marko_ when i go to port fowarding
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13:35 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
13:36 nore hi
13:37 VanessaE hi'
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13:40 iqualfragile VanessaE: http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?6b4ed906f8ace300​#rNkf5OCc4GjbOccmG7t175G8hKegGQMRScgZXJQTcXY=
13:40 VanessaE that...
13:40 VanessaE is unhelpful
13:40 VanessaE you didn't copy the whole error message
13:40 VanessaE unexpected symbol nea' <--- near...what?
13:41 VanessaE plus
13:41 VanessaE it's impossible
13:41 VanessaE the only thing on that line is a variable.
13:41 VanessaE update your copy of pipeworks
13:41 VanessaE and make sure you're using the master branch
13:42 VanessaE the other branches are experimental and not ready for production use
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13:46 iqualfragile VanessaE: i do not quite understand why, but git pull resulted in a merge conflict
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13:49 VanessaE strange
13:49 VanessaE maybe your local copy was hosed>
13:49 VanessaE ?
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14:03 Issa2013 my minetest is reallllyyy laaaaag
14:03 Issa2013 i have 9 - 10 fps
14:03 Issa2013 that's sucks
14:03 VanessaE bbl
14:05 pitriss Issa2013: fps is not lag.. lag is network problem, fps is graphics problem
14:07 Issa2013 ok pitriss
14:07 Issa2013 but same things my minetest is unplayable
14:08 pitriss try to lower visible distance
14:16 Issa2013 pitriss, we ava cmmand to show all the map ?
14:18 pitriss no there is not such command.. but if you want to change view range then R toggles between full and limited range and +/- set how far you can see
14:19 Issa2013 pitriss, http://www.enlightenment.org/ss​/e-52c6c6dc4d0be2.91773824.jpg
14:19 Issa2013 3 FPS
14:21 Issa2013 http://www.enlightenment.org/ss​/e-52c6c75ac3ee79.07912243.jpg
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14:28 pitriss stop trolling please.. I told you to reduce viewing range..
14:33 john_minetest Stupid computer... It takes ages to start up and crashes in the dumbest moments (When I am 500 meters over ground and falling in kerbal space program).
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14:57 hoodedice So...
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15:12 Megaf VanessaE, Hi, can you please tell me again how to save something with worldedit?
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16:00 EvergreenTree o/
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16:03 kaeza ( ^_^)人(^_^ )
16:06 xyz /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\
16:07 john_minetest (^(^(^(^_^)^)^)^)^)   <---- Chinese mafia is watching you
16:09 kaeza +fap
16:09 Hirato watching in formation
16:09 Hirato aten-hutt
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16:18 xyz ITS DONE
16:18 xyz BUILDCRAFT IS FINISHED
16:18 Jordach say wut
16:19 Enke It's gone?!
16:20 * Jordach 's head explodes from no reason
16:20 xyz all apps are gone and developer account is gone too or so it seems
16:20 PilzAdam and the ios version?
16:20 * Enke jumps for joy!
16:20 zash Context?
16:21 xyz PilzAdam: dunno, I didn't submit DMCA for the iOS version
16:21 Jordach everyone agree on changing the license to gpl
16:22 xyz why?
16:22 Jordach then we can stamp this shit out for good
16:22 kaeza wut
16:22 xyz don't understand you
16:22 xyz how GPL would help us?
16:22 Hirato GPL isn't allowed on the apple marketplace
16:23 Hirato see: VLC
16:23 xyz we have LGPL exactly for this reason — for someone to be able to do things like that
16:23 xyz but legally, providing Minetest code
16:23 xyz Hirato: let's be honest, lgpl isn't either
16:24 Hirato yeah
16:25 zash Hirato: Wasn't the case with VLC that an author demanded that it was removed?
16:26 xyz I think one of VLC devs asked it to be removed
16:26 Hirato it was more likely something about the mnot distributing the code
16:26 xyz and I think the problem was that you weren't able to install it on any number of devices
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16:28 UTB hello
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16:29 UTB can someone help me understand how th autocrafter works?
16:29 Peacock the Mastercraft Autocrafter 2000?
16:29 nore UTB: the one in pipeworks?
16:30 xyz well nice, guess we've managed to piss off all mobile users!
16:30 Peacock huh howcome?
16:30 UTB Yes, nore
16:30 nore there is a 3x3 area at the top
16:30 nore put the recipe here
16:31 nore then in the bottom area, put items that are used in the recipe
16:31 nore get the output in the top-right area
16:31 xyz although last time it was gone too, for some days
16:31 nore or: items inserted in the autocrafter will get in the bottom are
16:32 Peacock the android version is gone, but i think there are still 1 or two ios versions out there
16:32 nore and if you use a filter on it to get items, the output will be take from it
16:32 xyz I don't care about the iOS version
16:33 xyz others are free to submit more DMCA notices of course
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16:33 STHGOM how do you stop time?
16:33 Peacock so did google pull it or the dev did?
16:33 xyz not sure
16:34 UTB why do i have to put the items used in the recipe
16:34 UTB ?t?
16:34 Peacock well i have a feeling vicono and playstarz are the only fake companies the guy can come up with
16:34 Peacock *aren't
16:34 Peacock god knows what name(s) he'll come up with next
16:36 xyz well I'm fine with its existence so long as they publish the source
16:37 STHGOM how do you stop time in minetest?
16:38 Peacock /set -n time_speed 0 i think
16:38 kaeza /set time_speed 0
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16:39 STHGOM ok ty
16:39 STHGOM cya
16:46 Peacock wow lol NK's Jang Song-Thaek was executed by being eaten alive by 120 starved dogs
16:47 Enke Okay, the Norh Koreans are strange.
16:47 Peacock the leader's own uncle lol i suppose he'll make canned preserves with his aunt XD
16:50 UTB dang
16:50 UTB thats gross
16:50 blaise so, I can post my server on the forums?
16:51 Peacock just check the public box :P
16:51 blaise what public box?
16:51 Peacock more people will notice :P
16:51 Peacock theres creative, damage and public
16:52 Peacock (boxes to tick)
16:52 blaise ah..
16:52 ShadowNinja blaise: He means server announcement.  It is broken sometimes in 0.4.9.
16:53 UTB why do i have to put the items used in the recipe? for the autocrafter
16:54 blaise I don't know how to enable those in the world.mt
16:54 blaise and my server doesn't have a graphical interface...
16:55 Peacock wasn't it sortof broken in 048 too? people been reporting issues longer than 2-3 days if i remember correctly
16:55 blaise but if someone can point me to a forum post explaining it, or what the variables are that I need, I'll be more than happy to modify my config
16:55 Peacock in 047 i was flooded with timeout messages
16:55 Peacock minetest.conf -> server_announce = true
16:56 Peacock make sure minetest's completely closed when you're doing that or it wont save
16:56 blaise the server?
16:56 Peacock server/client
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16:57 blaise I don't even have a minecraft.conf
16:57 blaise I mean minetest.conf
16:57 * blaise hides
16:57 Peacock where the makefiles are
16:58 blaise eh, my source tree was removed after installation
16:58 Peacock me its /home/username/minetest-master/minetest.conf
16:58 Peacock (alternatively, one level above the games and bin folders)
17:01 blaise do I want v6.servers.minetest.net or servers.minetest.net ?
17:02 blaise v6.servers.minetest.net I guess
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17:08 blaise time_speed = 0 will have same time dilation as real world, yes?
17:09 Peacock no 0 means time doesn't move at all
17:09 blaise 1 = 24 hour days?
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17:10 marko_ good evening
17:10 kaeza evening
17:10 Peacock 1 should be a standard day yeah
17:11 Peacock default is 72, so 72x faster (or 72 game minutes to each real minute)  - i think
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17:14 blaise 17:14:04: ERROR[ServerThread]: Serverlist at url v6.servers.minetest.net error (Couldn't connect to server)
17:14 blaise :\
17:15 blaise Peacock: epic flail fail
17:15 Peacock bizarre
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17:16 ShadowNinja blaise: Do you have IPv6?
17:18 xyz you should only connect to v6 if you want to your ipv6 address to be shown on the list
17:18 blaise no, I thought that ment mapgen v6
17:18 blaise not ipv6
17:20 blaise 17:19:50: ACTION[ServerThread]: announcing to servers.minetest.net
17:20 blaise woot!
17:20 blaise :D
17:20 blaise anyone that cares to connect.. midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000
17:21 blaise I'm open to any suggestions about server config
17:21 blaise I would like it to run as smooth as possible..
17:22 ShadowNinja blaise: Check C55's server performance settings on the forum.
17:22 blaise ShadowNinja: Your search returned no hits
17:23 ShadowNinja blaise: forum.minetest.net -> servers -> Performance settings
17:24 UTB when i use the auto crafter and i want to make a chest, i put the ingredients on the left box but it already used up the materials before i could even arrange them
17:24 UTB how do i solve that problem
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17:25 trauerlicht hello there :) happy first weekend in the year :)
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17:35 Peacock power switch, coffee machine, broken... http://youtu.be/WWaLxFIVX1s
17:37 Peacock ok this might be a stupid question, can i symlink from freeminer to my game and world folders in minetest (i can, but will it work?)
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17:37 ShadowNinja Peacock: Yes.
17:38 Peacock cool, so i can switch back and forth without corrupting anything
17:40 Peacock lol the average player on my server: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yppXAVb4uE0/T4261Gxjp​II/AAAAAAAADsY/vZ9mxvOdysU/s1600/heyyouapes.gif
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17:48 blaise why do people keep trying to supply empty passwords?
17:49 Peacock could be a bug? sometimes im told i have the wrong password even though i never set one lol
17:49 kaeza such secure
17:49 blaise pfft
17:49 blaise I've never had any problems.
17:50 Peacock why would you need to secure a test map? lol
17:50 trauerlicht Peacock: it could be THE testmap ever?!
17:50 blaise so people can't log in as you?
17:50 blaise and destroy all your hard work?
17:51 Peacock testmap = not public, and if server running, then it stands to reason im already logged in and no one else can with my name lol
17:51 blaise mine is public
17:52 blaise and it's a standalone server...
17:52 blaise I log in remotely with a client from a different machine..
17:52 blaise the server is currently running headless...
17:52 blaise Peacock: you're more than welcome to check out my progress.. midnightsystems.kicks-ass.org:30000
17:53 blaise :)
17:53 Peacock im actually waiting for shit to die down on my public server so i can test FM
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17:54 kaeza [14:49:31] <Peacock> could be a bug? sometimes im told i have the wrong password even though i never set one lol
17:54 Peacock yeah that is weird
17:54 Peacock how can it be wrong if there isn't one?
17:54 dipseydoodle_ Good afternoon. Could somebody please tell me where I would find my Minetest Folder on Ubuntu? I downloaded it from the Ubuntu Software Center
17:54 Peacock though im pretty sure thats the lua menu behaving strangely, never got that before
17:54 kaeza dipseydoodle_, ~/.minetest
17:55 Jordach dipseydoodle_, /home/<you>/.minetest
17:56 dipseydoodle_ Sorry, I'm having a hard time finding that. I'm pretty new to Linux (being a mac user) I see a Home/Public folder but nothing after that.
17:56 Jordach dipseydoodle_, ctrl + h in the file manager
17:56 Jordach or view -> show hidden files
17:56 Peacock he's looking for minetest not pron
17:57 dipseydoodle_ Your my herro. Thanks
17:57 Peacock :P
17:57 dipseydoodle_ Mods go in there then?
17:57 blaise Peacock: all files startin with . are hidden
17:57 Jordach in .minetest/mods
17:57 Jordach not sure if they're game dependant
17:57 dipseydoodle_ Ok so I can make my own folder then?
17:57 Peacock tho why would minetest be hidden?
17:58 blaise so morons don't delete it..
17:58 dipseydoodle_ I wonder too. On mac their all in an application support folder and I was expecting that kinda thing
17:58 dipseydoodle_ Oh lol
17:58 dipseydoodle_ thanks again
17:58 Peacock freetards are supposed to be smarter than wintards, its not like /boot/grub is hidden :P
17:59 blaise Peacock: ls -la still shows all files prefixed with a .
18:00 dipseydoodle_ Please lets not talk about windows :P
18:01 Peacock allright, we'll take about doors and cheap double glazing :D
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18:02 dipseydoodle_ lol
18:02 dipseydoodle_ Although I begining to resent Apple now too
18:02 kaeza suddenly: ReactOS
18:02 Peacock lol reactOS is pretty old
18:03 dipseydoodle_ And so limmited with apps right now
18:03 Peacock apple is fine its their users i can't stand lol
18:03 Jordach if something is shit, why copy shit
18:04 kaeza it's 9001% Shitdows compatible
18:04 dipseydoodle_ Peacick that would have been me until steave died
18:04 blaise BeOS
18:04 blaise lmao
18:04 kaeza BSOD guaranteed!
18:04 xyz STOP SPENDING YOUR TIME IN A WAY I DON'T LIKE!!!
18:04 xyz ^ every reactos hater
18:04 dipseydoodle_ I tried reactOs a while ago but to be honest Wine is just as good
18:05 trauerlicht apple is fine? why? i dont find any argument.
18:06 Peacock well they can spend their time however they like lol im just noting i tried that thing years ago, and then it was dead, and suddenly it picked up again
18:06 Peacock tried it around the same time i tried Beos i think
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18:10 Peacock can i rename players? say they sign in with Guest####, i could rename them to douche## before they spawn, (or some random dictionary word)
18:12 pitriss Peacock: it should be easy with that prejoin callback
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18:20 Peacock prejoin allows me to reject a connection and give a reason, but not to change the player's name i think
18:20 Peacock simply telling someone to chose a proper name is pretty useless if they don't happen to speak english lol
18:20 Peacock err, read
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18:44 Calinou achievement get: 400 link karma on reddit
18:44 * Calinou looks at Minetest 0.4.9, and runs away
18:45 Peacock women love big karma :P
18:48 Peacock shouldn't players who don't respawn after x time be timed out automatically?
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18:56 markvei94 Hi
18:56 markvei94 ...
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18:57 markveidemanis Got a nice kindle keyboardsashtr]
18:58 markveidemanis bluetooth :
18:58 markveidemanis )]
18:58 Peacock sdguoihfdgoi indeed
18:59 markveidemanis hi cock
19:00 markveidemanis this renders my old netbook useless
19:00 Peacock netbooks can hold more pron
19:00 markveidemanis however the enter key could be bigger
19:00 markveidemanis yeah 270GB
19:00 markveidemanis lol out of 300 <jkkj>
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19:03 zsoltisawesome !seen us|0gb
19:03 MinetestBot zsoltisawesome: us|0gb was last seen at 2013-12-16 03:51:16 UTC on #minetest
19:03 zsoltisawesome !seen lord cirth
19:03 zsoltisawesome fail
19:03 zsoltisawesome !seen lordcirth
19:03 MinetestBot zsoltisawesome: Sorry, I haven't seen lord around.
19:03 MinetestBot zsoltisawesome: lordcirth was last seen at 2013-12-17 05:57:26 UTC on #minetest
19:03 PilzAdam "My *** was bigger then i thought" – https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=124257#p124257
19:03 zsoltisawesome :|
19:04 Peacock lol
19:05 PilzAdam he also made this topic: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7699
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19:05 PilzAdam am I allowed to advertise my mod too like this?
19:05 xyz no
19:05 PilzAdam "My mod is cooler than I thought"
19:06 Megaf PilzAdam, sure you can
19:06 Megaf I allow you
19:06 zsoltisawesome guys: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8178
19:06 Megaf And am I? I'm the chosen one
19:06 Megaf Who Am I? I'm the chosen one
19:06 Peacock maybe minetest.net could just highlight a different mod each day
19:07 zsoltisawesome that would be nice
19:07 zsoltisawesome cause its had to find good mods
19:07 zsoltisawesome *hard
19:07 Peacock not to mention the copies of copies of copies not knowing which one is maintained
19:07 PilzAdam zsoltisawesome, you just have to look for "by PilzAdam" to find good mods
19:07 zsoltisawesome btw does anyone know batch scripting?
19:07 zsoltisawesome really?
19:08 zsoltisawesome that helpful, thanks
19:08 xyz hey! how about we make animu about minetest instead?
19:08 zsoltisawesome that would be better...
19:08 xyz last time someone made slightly-open-source-related VN we've got Katawa Shoujo
19:09 xyz imagine what could someone do with Minetest
19:10 xyz if you didn't know then >Katawa Shoujo […]  is a bishōjo-style visual novel by Four Leaf Studios that tells a story of a young man and five young women living with varying disabilities.
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19:10 Peacock figured geeks would like vulnerable women lol
19:11 zsoltisawesome how is it open source related?
19:12 xyz it's distributed under some creativecommons license
19:12 xyz ah, CC-BY-NC-ND, isn't very open-sourcy
19:12 xyz guess I was wrong then
19:12 zsoltisawesome guys: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6686439/, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6686444/ <---- hehe all even numbers
19:14 zsoltisawesome btw the second link is the log, not the acual program output
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19:16 zsoltisawesome YAY
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19:25 Peacock im guessing destrozado means destroy, the rest of the message is in all  caps lol
19:26 Naked destroyed
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19:30 xyz > Yes. I have a friend that torrents games. I sort of stopped being friends w/ him.
19:30 Peacock a little extreme lol
19:30 xyz "i've reported him to police" would be better
19:31 Peacock lol you serious?
19:31 xyz in being extreme, of course
19:31 Peacock oh ok lol
19:31 xyz sometimes I feel like they're not even trying to shitpost
19:31 Peacock well i dont really believe that either dont torrent anything
19:31 xyz wait, this discussion was about iOS port
19:32 Jordach >iOS Port
19:32 Jordach lol
19:32 Jordach you're joking :)
19:32 Peacock naw, two apps so far
19:32 Peacock buildcraft and freeworld for ios
19:32 Jordach in other news, i purchased something you'd shame me for
19:32 xyz dragon dildo?
19:32 Peacock a prostitute?
19:32 Jordach double nope.avi
19:33 PilzAdam "things not to say in #minetest"
19:33 xyz what things?
19:33 Jordach it costs $30 USD
19:33 xyz I'm patient and I respect other users
19:34 xyz you got me, I have no idea how much dragon dildos cost
19:34 * Jordach swaps windows from said game and slaps xyz
19:34 Peacock that's a little harsh isn't it? slapping someone with your dildo :/
19:35 Jordach saints row beat me to it
19:36 zsoltisawesome lol
19:39 xyz oh you bought a shitty pc game or?
19:41 xyz that topic about "MASTER MOD 1.0" is a stupid trolling, isn't it?
19:41 PilzAdam NO! IT WILL BE EPIC!
19:41 Peacock AWESOME??!!??
19:42 xyz awww, it's hard to shitpost
19:42 xyz people will think I'm an administrator or someshit like this
19:42 Jordach xyz, correct
19:43 xyz but in the wonderful world of irc everybody's equal
19:43 zsoltisawesome brb, gona eaat
19:44 xyz I wanted to post something like this http://i.imgur.com/GtJgImM.jpg but I'm afraid that's inappropriate
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19:45 Peacock it's mostly 12 year olds in FPS's call each other faggots, adults use douche or retard lol
19:45 xyz fag
19:45 Naked and dick
19:47 Peacock which is ironic because its not like 12 year olds have much experience either way, and FPS's tend to be sausagefests lol
19:48 Peacock Naked http://carlindustries.com/ciwp/wp-content/​uploads/2012/06/spotted_dick-640x480.jpeg
19:49 zash Microwaveable!
19:50 Jordach xyz, +1
19:50 * Jordach wants you to post that
19:50 Peacock zash http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.​com/images/shows/southpark/vertical​_video/season_14/sp_1403_clip04.jpg
19:51 xyz fuck
19:52 xyz I hoped they added a way to buy Windows 8.1
19:53 xyz oh well
19:53 PilzAdam maybe the master mod author thinks "coding" means "writing something with full capslock in a forum post"
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19:54 xyz "Windows 8 and Windows 8 Pro are upgrade versions only. If you want the full version of Windows 8 or want to install Windows on a Mac, please call us at 1-877-696-7786 to purchase."
19:54 PilzAdam ^ spam
19:56 Peacock http://rolande.files.wordpre​ss.com/2005/01/spam-can.jpg
19:57 xyz Peacock: you should add more cute girls to your pics
19:58 Peacock i dont make them i just find 'em lol
19:59 zash CAN SPAM
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20:00 markveidemanis I can use the keyboard on my pc
20:01 markveidemanis unconfortasbleas hell
20:01 Peacock english women? http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LfQ9u0cJxyE/TMfwl01gwz​I/AAAAAAAAD9g/sRRRhFgyhwI/s320/DurasSisters.jpg
20:01 markveidemanis i also got a FUCKING 1920x1080 monitor from hp
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20:02 Peacock why would you fuck a monitor? some sort of weird electro-stimulation or ?
20:02 zash Peacock: It's the monitor that fucks, obviously
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20:03 UTB wtf ^^
20:03 Peacock ?
20:04 UTB monitor that fucks
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20:04 Peacock lol "North Carolina city councillor David Waddell resigns. In Klingon."
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20:09 Peacock i have 3 people going by names admin (different capitalizations) lol
20:09 Calinou a monitor likes it at less than 60 hz
20:09 Calinou except G-sync monitors or 120/144Hz monitors, who like it fast
20:09 Peacock until it hz too much
20:13 trauerlicht how much bandwith does minetest need to run basicly smooth?
20:13 sfan5 trauerlicht: 100 KB/s up & down I guess
20:13 sfan5 or maybe moe
20:13 sfan5 more*
20:17 proller 5-10лизы
20:17 proller kbps
20:18 Peacock <player> im a hacker! [5 mins later] <player>can i have fly? lol
20:19 trauerlicht 5-10 kbps or 100kbps?
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20:26 blaise PilzAdam: how do I get the area mod to work?
20:27 sfan5 trauerlicht: something inbetween
20:31 trauerlicht sfan5: is there a tool to test this?
20:31 sfan5 any tool to moniter network send/recv rate should do it
20:35 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Add mesecon:register_on_mvps_move, fix mesecon:mvps_pull_all b0f81a8c62 2014-01-03T02:04:19-08:00 http://git.io/0m2eAg
20:38 trauerlicht nethogs seems to be promising
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20:45 blaise what is a good protect mod ?
20:46 blaise I got ShadowNinja's areas mod..
20:46 blaise but I can't find how to configure it
20:46 blaise ShadowNinja: you alive?
20:48 trauerlicht sfan5: wheres your server? germany?
20:49 sfan5 yep
20:49 trauerlicht im just logging on your server - about 6kbps
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20:51 * sfan5 just added automatic crash logging to his servet
20:51 sfan5 server*
20:52 sfan5 trauerlicht: try joining again, I just restarted
20:52 djdduty joined #minetest
20:52 trauerlicht lol ... splashed my pw
20:53 trauerlicht i love that error message: 21:45:10: ERROR[main]: Something failed
20:57 trauerlicht item definitions -
20:57 sfan5 it may be a bit slow, I'm running debug build for crash reporting purposes
21:03 specing proller: unified inventory doesent work anymore @ sky
21:04 proller disabled, because slow
21:04 trauerlicht i just restarted the connection. your server does not work anymore. sfan5
21:04 proller specing, or enable>
21:04 proller ?
21:04 sfan5 trauerlicht: try again
21:05 specing D:
21:05 specing unified inventory is slow?
21:05 trauerlicht runs
21:05 specing and you have mobs enabled? 0.o
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21:08 proller yes
21:09 Ubuntu-Tester In the Mods tab how do u get "Online mod repository" workin every time i click it it dont work
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21:14 trauerlicht sfan5: vote command does not work - issue
21:14 trauerlicht sfan5: no permission
21:16 Calinou trauerlicht, 200Kb/s per client, down/up
21:16 Calinou at worst
21:17 proller for what?
21:18 proller maybe for initial recieving media
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21:58 blaise anyone know how the areas protection mod works?
21:58 blaise I can't seem to get it working
21:58 blaise ShadowNinja: you alive?
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22:26 SegFault22 Hello all
22:26 Peacock greetings
22:27 SegFault22 Where's us_0gb?
22:27 blaise Peacock: do you know how areas mod works?
22:27 Peacock which one? there are dozens lol
22:27 SegFault22 oh :P
22:27 Peacock we call them YAPMs now (Yet Another Protection Mod) :P
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22:29 blaise the one by ShadowNinja
22:30 blaise I want it to be configured so only those who create nodes can destroy them
22:30 blaise I thought I set it up properly in minetest.conf but it's not working
22:30 blaise areas.self_protection = true
22:31 blaise Peacock: is that the right setting?
22:31 Peacock then what you want is indiv node ownership
22:31 Peacock pretty easy, reconfig the built in place node to store the owner name in the meta
22:31 Peacock and the dig node to check it
22:31 blaise ?!
22:32 Peacock though then people can grief by putting t heir blocks in doorways, so you wanna check that they're not placing nodes near owned nodes
22:32 Peacock cuz the areas mod protects whole areas, not indiv. nodes anywhere
22:32 blaise yeah, that's what I want..
22:32 blaise but I can't figure it out
22:34 blaise ./area_pos set
22:34 blaise then I punch two nodes..
22:34 blaise but, then what?
22:36 SegFault22 ? What?
22:37 SegFault22 Do you know what us_0gb did with the fuel-table he was working on?
22:47 SegFault22 finding rather unnerving stuff on the chat logs from 05:17...
22:49 SegFault22 so us_0bg is gone...
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22:49 SegFault22 Oh well.
22:49 SegFault22 bye
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23:04 harrison 04,11memehopper
23:05 john_minetest memememememememememememememememememememe
23:05 harrison that is the spirit!
23:05 harrison go go memehopper go
23:06 Peacock paramat here?
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23:16 paramat yes
23:16 proller http://minetest.setun.net/map.road/map-road.png
23:17 proller paramat, yet another fractal ^
23:19 paramat i like the look of that
23:19 paramat heh busy server
23:20 arsdragonfly Mandelbrot set?
23:21 proller mg_math = {"generator":"hypercomplex", "scale":0.0001, "N":12, "interior_mode": 1, "center":{"x":20000, "y":1, "z":0}}
23:21 proller ^ fm only feature ;)
23:22 proller http://wiki.mandelbulber.com/imag​es/0/0f/Image_-_hypercomplex.jpg
23:22 zash So you haven't gotten to the good parts yet?
23:22 zash :)
23:22 paramat hypercomplex ... i guess a 3D fractal or 3 dimensional slice of 4+D
23:22 Peacock paramat those weird lines you're getting, i dont think its mgv6
23:22 paramat ?
23:22 Peacock my shield gen uses vmanip to create bubbles (spheres)
23:23 Peacock and  there are outlines of circles
23:23 paramat interesting
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23:24 harrison have u seen the fracktal voxel raytracer yet?
23:24 Peacock http://s17.postimg.org/vynq1z​28d/screenshot_1516303242.png
23:24 harrison -- not you Peacock i know you have
23:24 paramat i got those lines pre-LVM too
23:24 paramat harrison i've seen some of your videos
23:25 Peacock but why would i be getting circles? didn't do this in 047
23:25 Peacock apart from the fact i drew a sphere lol
23:26 paramat guess it's time to ping the king ...
23:29 john_minetest Mandelbrot is no real fractal iirc
23:29 paramat hi hmmmm, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1077 i had assumed this was an old well known bug but couldn't find it in issues
23:31 paramat wow Pea, far out screenshot
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23:34 paramat i doubt those circles are the same bug as the chunk edge lines
23:40 paramat ... they look like intersection curves of spheres, perhaps caused by previous bubbles ... ?
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23:48 * sfan5 laughs uncontrollably
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23:53 Darkangel When 1 makes a NEW Mod for Minetest how does 1 get it launched?
23:54 john_minetest gblargh
23:54 john_minetest Compiling stuff on windows is a pita
23:54 paramat !seen 1
23:54 MinetestBot paramat: Sorry, I haven't seen 1 around.
23:54 blaise how can I make a grate or screen for a chimney?
23:54 john_minetest Darkangel: Put it on the forum into the "Modding general" section.
23:54 Darkangel kk
23:54 blaise people keep sliding down my chimney and stealing my furnace.. :(
23:55 john_minetest lol
23:55 john_minetest Santa clause comes down the chimney?
23:55 Darkangel well Basicly done made it just need to make another round of enpeaction
23:57 paramat mountain river in flexrealm http://i.imgur.com/MLnwqJM.png
23:59 john_minetest Wow, looks nice

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