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00:00 Jordach - {Day changed to Wed Jan 1 00:00:00 2014}
00:00 Jordach welcome to the fucking future
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00:03 rubenwardy happy new year, for those in western europe
00:04 Peacock next up, east coast, then west coast
00:04 Peacock who's kloeri? lol
00:05 Peacock and what's fST?
00:06 ShadowNinja Peacock: See the FAQ.
00:07 rubenwardy you are all so old fashioned; you are still living in 2013, god.
00:10 Peacock yes this is God
00:11 Peacock wow, who knew, you can get gnome and vlc on freebsd
00:12 katyusha Peacock I would think most things from GNU/Linux are ported over to FreeBSD by now
00:13 Peacock i have no idea what freebsd's like, its the only thing i havent tried :P (did mac, win, lin, etc, even beos for a short while)
00:15 Jordach bsd's good
00:15 Peacock hopefully it's a mix of crunch and arch * bang
00:16 Jordach Peacock, you can upgrade the kernel in one command
00:17 Peacock well you can do the same thing in various linuses, to varying degrees of success
00:17 Jordach Peacock, in BSD, it's built in
00:17 Peacock i like that BSD doesn't have multiple flavours though
00:20 * rubenwardy just released he has been with minetest for 1 year, and 10 months
00:21 Peacock *realized, lay off the egg nog :P
00:21 rubenwardy nothing compared to jordach
00:21 Peacock lol
00:21 Peacock hey my wife is passed out right now, thats why im here
00:21 Peacock good ole scottish genes
00:21 rubenwardy i am typing this on my touch screen phone.
00:22 Peacock damn autocracy
00:22 Peacock *autocorrect
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00:28 sapier happy new year 2014 to all out there
00:28 Peacock fool! theres still 4.5 hours to go!
00:28 Peacock just kidding :P
00:29 rubenwardy ditto, sapier!
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00:31 sapier can't help you beeing so slow peacock ;-P
00:32 Peacock im simply in the *right* timezone, the one where washington is in :P
00:33 sapier if there's something like a right timezone it's utc ;-P
00:33 Peacock GMT?\
00:33 sapier almost same
00:33 Peacock Greenwich, sounds like some sort of vegan sandwich XD
00:36 sapier actually utc really is the RIGHT time :-) ast utc isn't bound to any timezone
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00:38 Peacock yeah but try having everyone live in the same time zone "you cant call him in <place> its 4am over there! - but it's 4am here too?!"| :P
00:38 sapier no just celebrate your new year in your timezone like any normal pearson will do ;-)
00:40 rubenwardy gmt is the world standard for shared time
00:41 Peacock im pretty used to adding or subtracting timezones in my head, i just cant tell if it's tomorrow or yesterday for some people :P
00:41 sapier rubenwardy that's not quite exact utc is world standard but utc is almost gmt ;-)
00:42 Hirato merry new easter or whatever they cal lit these days
00:42 rubenwardy does gmt imply day light sqving?
00:42 Peacock DST is even more fucked up :P
00:42 rubenwardy and utc not?
00:42 sapier not sure about that but gmt is the name of the timezone while utc isn't bount to any timezone
00:42 Peacock in Canada some provinces use DST and some don't
00:43 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: s/gmt/UTC/
00:43 Peacock and some DST zones are half an hour instead of an hour XD
00:43 Peacock *a,a
00:43 sapier that's the main difference between those two :-)
00:44 sapier as of common usage GMT and UTC are same the difference is only relevant for professional astronomics
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01:17 FreeFull Peacock: For some places, DST is 2 hours
01:17 Peacock 2? that must fuck up sleep patterns lol
01:19 xyz maintaining tzdata is an awful work, if I had to guess
01:22 FreeFull Peacock: What fucks up sleep patterns is having the sun in the sky for the whole 24 hours
01:22 Peacock well that only happens above the arctic circle, and then, only during summer :P
01:22 FreeFull Well, DST only happens during summer =P
01:22 FreeFull And also sufficiently far from the equator
01:22 Peacock yeah but the sun isn't 24hrs everywhere :P
01:23 FreeFull DST isn't 2 hours everywhere
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01:23 Peacock so it's 2 hours further up'narth?
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01:25 rubenwardy ...
01:26 Peacock i'll take those dots, and raise you 3 commas
01:28 FreeFull ,,,
01:29 Peacock raise you another 3 semicolons
01:35 FreeFull ;;;
01:36 Peacock now let's see your cards XD
01:37 Peacock i wonder if theres unicode for that lol
01:37 VanessaE … … …
01:37 Peacock too small :P
01:38 VanessaE fine *grabs magnifying glass*
01:38 VanessaE o o o    o o o    o o o
01:38 VanessaE :D
01:38 FreeFull ♥♥♥♥
01:38 Peacock full house
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01:48 Peacock thats not good, can't get freebsd to launch in vbox lol
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04:13 phantombeta Hai
04:20 Peacock /op everyone :P
04:20 ShadowNinja ^ Updated invex/exempt lists (invisible to regular users)
04:21 VanessaE /op ALL the users? .o~o
04:21 Peacock i dunno wtf invex exempt is lol 40 minutes left btw
04:22 ShadowNinja I know of a channel where everyone is either oped or voiced(mostly oped), but is's a private channel and they are all well trusted.
04:22 Peacock so its basically irc communism where anyone can be purged by anyone? XD
04:22 Hirato I think there's a flag for that
04:23 Hirato mutual threat of thermonuclear war
04:23 ShadowNinja Well, There are only one or two with control in the ACL, and ACL trumps all.
04:23 Peacock speaking of which, NK threatened nuclear war tonight, i guess their fireworks sucked lol
04:26 VanessaE lol
04:28 Hirato tempted to link some mike oldfield
04:30 Hirato http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVNWORF5hh0 since it's new years and all :P
04:32 Peacock T-28 mins
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04:38 Lynxx happy new year everyone :)
04:39 Peacock T-21
04:39 VanessaE happy new year )
04:39 VanessaE :)
04:39 VanessaE 21:05
04:39 * VanessaE is watching online
04:39 Peacock 21:05, what time zone? mountain?
04:39 VanessaE no, 21 mins 05 seconds I meant.
04:39 Peacock oh lol
04:40 Peacock 20 now
04:40 VanessaE now exactly 20 mins.
04:40 Lynxx lots of people shooting home made bazookas here D:
04:41 Peacock im trying to finish this beer before midnight but i dont think ill make it lol
04:42 Peacock think ill be having dinner for one, wife's passed out stone cold lol
04:43 Lynxx lol
04:43 Peacock lamb gigolo (fr.:gigot d'agneau)
04:44 Hirato the time was recently 12:34:56 :D
04:46 Lynxx my head hurts xD too many detonations
04:47 Lynxx and gun powder everywhere
04:48 Peacock lol me its mostly the bars blaring downstairs :P
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04:57 VanessaE 3 minutes to go!
04:58 Peacock 2
04:59 VanessaE 1 minute!
04:59 Peacock http://www.masslive.com/news/index.ssf/2013/12/happy_new_year_2014_live_video.html
04:59 VanessaE http://new.livestream.com/accounts/43923/events/1780083/player_pop_out
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05:00 VanessaE HAPPY NEW YEAR!
05:01 ShadowNinja ~topic add Happy new year!
05:01 Topic for #minetest is now 0.4.8 is released! | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | Core Devs: #minetest-dev | Servers: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html | Happy new year!
05:01 NekoGloop happy new year
05:01 Peacock happy NY
05:02 * VanessaE offers some cheap, strawberry white zinfandel to all to ring in said new year :)
05:04 Peacock jesus my connection sucks tonight, stream conked out 15 seconds to midnight lol
05:04 VanessaE heh
05:04 VanessaE this stream I've been watching has been rock solid :)
05:04 Peacock couldnt even load that page :/
05:04 VanessaE though they need to work on their camera cutting a bit
05:04 VanessaE oh, sorry
05:04 VanessaE maybe I shoulda routed you through the base page, sowwy
05:05 Peacock ah, now the page loaded lol
05:05 Peacock naw my connection just sucks, too many people on holiday lol
05:05 Miner_48er happy new year
05:05 VanessaE fricken ABC wouldn't load at all, so no Dick Cla---er...Ryan Seacrest this year
05:05 VanessaE happy new year, Miner_48er  :D
05:05 * VanessaE sucks down the zinfandel with enthusiasm :D
05:06 Peacock i might go for two more beers
05:07 Peacock hehe, no comment on how many before :P
05:07 VanessaE oh shit
05:08 VanessaE three glasses in and I'm already drunk :D
05:08 Peacock jesus, well its been cold here, i can go 14 beers without feeling wobbly :P
05:09 VanessaE haha
05:09 VanessaE well remember I had that gastric surgery back in 2012 :)
05:09 hmmmm happy 1388534400
05:10 VanessaE absorbing alcohol like it's water is a side effect of it :D
05:11 Peacock well when it comes to beer it leaves almost as fast as it comes in lol
05:11 VanessaE haha
05:11 Peacock you can tell when  to stop drinking judging by how long it takes to ... lol
05:12 VanessaE pff
05:12 VanessaE you write lol at the end of half of your sentences anyway :)
05:12 Peacock well it's soo much cooler than punctuations :P
05:12 VanessaE heh
05:12 Peacock (other half = :P) :P
05:15 Peacock yeah, all the livestreams suck tonight lol
05:15 VanessaE heh
05:15 Peacock 4 different ones and they all buffer
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05:18 Peacock though at this rate ill still be up when my wife comes to :P
05:18 VanessaE livestream (as in, the actual site so-named) doesn't work for me in firefox, but in chrome, no prob at all
05:19 VanessaE in firefox, it runs for a few seconds, then just gets stuck buffering.  in chrome, it just works.
05:19 Peacock well i dunno if its my connection, or the sheer number of users watching, but it kept buffering every 20 seconds :P
05:19 Peacock (using chromium)
05:19 VanessaE had to say
05:20 Peacock well jango seems to work, they got decent holiday classics :D
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05:21 sdzen wooo
05:21 sdzen hello people
05:22 Peacock howdy
05:23 Peacock if you've come here for support, all the operators are presently inebriated, press (2) to leave a message
05:23 sdzen how are things in the various timezones?
05:23 sdzen I thought they would be
05:24 Peacock well it wouldnt be much of party on #minetest otherwise :P
05:24 sdzen true true
05:25 sdzen well I thought id pop in to wish you people all a good day
05:25 sdzen and wonderful hangovers for those of you who in EST
05:25 Peacock hehehe
05:25 sdzen who are in*
05:25 sdzen bloody hell my spelling is gone
05:26 Peacock the channel will be serving coffee tomorrow morning
05:27 Peacock minetestbot makes espresso now :D
05:27 Peacock shadowbot's in charge of tea :P
05:28 VanessaE lol
05:28 Peacock and we've arranged from Bing Crosby to perform :D
05:28 VanessaE Peacock: "if you've come here for support, ..."    lol
05:29 Peacock they totally shoulda hired me for those recorded telephone messages XD
05:29 sdzen how are ya VanessaE
05:29 VanessaE sdzen: drunk :)
05:29 VanessaE and feeling quite good :)
05:30 VanessaE happy new year :"D
05:30 VanessaE *hic*
05:30 sdzen your at least more sensible then the last time I graced this place on the new year
05:30 Peacock lol
05:30 Peacock im sure she doesn't remember that :P
05:31 sdzen is anyone noticing that Billy Joel looks really old?
05:31 VanessaE sdzen: I haven't drank enough yet :D
05:32 Peacock nothing like a good bass for ella fitgerald
05:32 sdzen thats what they all say before they empty the gallon of brut
05:32 Peacock !define brut
05:33 sdzen Champagne
05:34 Peacock wife wanted that (ontop of everything else), she's been out for hours lol
05:35 VanessaE brut?
05:35 VanessaE to hell with brut
05:35 VanessaE I drink the sweet stuff
05:35 Peacock ugh, cant stand sweet alcohol :P
05:35 VanessaE zinfandel in this case.
05:35 Peacock dry red french wine or beers
05:36 Peacock wife's the opposite, only drinks white wine lol
05:38 sdzen woooo
05:38 sdzen I am still a minor
05:38 Peacock never stopped me XD
05:40 Peacock i pulled a Yeltsin when i was 13 and got suspended for a week :P
05:43 sdzen alcoholic family here, I am quite averse to the idea
05:43 Peacock me too, but i'm considered the light version XD
05:45 Peacock besides, it's so friggin cold here lol most of my older family members settled in the southern hemisphere :P
05:46 sdzen pff
05:46 sdzen I like the ice
05:47 Peacock spend a few years in Quebec and you'll change your mind :P
05:47 sdzen its only a short drive from here
05:47 Peacock vermont/maine?
05:47 sdzen indeed
05:48 Peacock not bad, though when i see failvids of people in australia on the beach this time of year, im envious lol
05:48 sdzen crazy aussies
05:48 Peacock to add insult to injury, my birthday is in february lol
05:49 sdzen I have issues with warm temps
05:49 sdzen mazel tov!
05:49 Peacock i dont like the humidity either :P but i have much more energy during the sunny seasons :P
05:50 sdzen I have a tearing migraine right now so I cannot reason with that
05:50 sdzen :)
05:50 Peacock Ooo beach boys - we three kings
05:51 VanessaE bit late for christmas music ain't it? :)
05:51 sdzen my tree is still up
05:51 Peacock yeah my shit will be up for a week too :P
05:51 sdzen my and my grandfather could not figure out how to shut off the lights
05:51 Peacock besides i only listen to christmas music on the 25th and 1st :P
05:52 sdzen electrical engineer and a tech person couldn't operate a switch.
05:52 sdzen that is one of our failing points....
05:52 Peacock lol should see my tree
05:52 VanessaE ok remember when I said  ihave n't drunk enough yet?
05:52 VanessaE ok now I have :D
05:52 Peacock counted something like 700 or 800 little bulbs
05:52 VanessaE HAPY NWQ YAER
05:53 VanessaE oh fuck what a typo
05:53 Peacock seems legit
05:53 VanessaE lol
05:53 sdzen okay so we got a new set of lights for the tree
05:53 sdzen because apparently halogens will burn down the house
05:53 sdzen and theres one thing wrong with them
05:53 VanessaE only maybe I'll try not to make a total ass of myself like I did last year :D
05:53 sdzen one goes out
05:53 sdzen they all go out
05:53 Peacock of course i stopped putting lights *under* the christmas village snow after the last set melted into the snow, but that's a minor setback :P
05:54 sdzen but of course
05:54 VanessaE sdzen: "12 Pains of Christmas", usually attributed to Bob Rivers
05:54 sdzen only minor
05:54 sdzen I know the song
05:55 sdzen wellll
05:55 sdzen peace folks
05:55 sdzen I am going to pass out!
05:55 sdzen <3
05:55 Peacock drinking is bad, mkaaay
05:55 * Peacock opens beer
05:55 Peacock :P
05:56 sdzen idk, my and my cousin seem to be testaments against that
05:56 Peacock new or old testament?
05:56 Peacock :P
05:56 sdzen I dont drink and am a dwarve with limited emotional capability
05:57 sdzen he has been drinking since he was 5 and is a well adjusted human being
05:57 sdzen who happens to be like 6'6"
05:57 Peacock i prefer cats to human, they're smarter
05:57 sdzen amen to that
05:58 Peacock and cats aren't very subtile about what they want lol
05:58 Peacock *subtle?
05:58 sdzen subtiling is nessacary
05:58 sdzen aaahhh
05:58 sdzen nope
05:58 Peacock lol
05:58 sdzen too much pain
05:58 sdzen bye
05:58 Peacock night
05:59 Peacock who knew Harry Belafonte sang Silent Night
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09:30 sfan5 hi everyone
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11:48 Issa2013 hello john_minetest
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12:51 Jordach xyz|imaginary, WAT
12:53 xyz drunk already?
12:53 Jordach nah, just cannot understand why your xyz|imaginary@ <- is just like that
13:12 Hirato You're imagining things
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14:20 VanessaE good morning all
14:23 VanessaE hi
14:26 xyz sfan5: did you alias me?
14:26 sfan5 no
14:27 xyz those stats are so fun
14:27 xyz "Poor PilzAdam, nobody likes him/her."
14:27 sfan5 aliases you, now generating new stats
14:27 sfan5 aliased*
14:27 VanessaE don't forget those real|, unreal| etc ones also
14:28 VanessaE :)
14:28 iqualfragile xyz: what happened to your nick?
14:28 xyz nothing
14:28 xyz it's cleaner this way, right
14:28 iqualfragile it is
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14:29 artur99 hi
14:29 iqualfragile (and desu is allready taken)
14:29 iqualfragile hi artur99
14:29 artur99 how to set a respawn point for a lan server
14:29 artur99 ?
14:29 artur99 or a hamachi server
14:30 VanessaE hamachi?
14:30 VanessaE /kill artur99
14:30 artur99 yeah... hamachi :(
14:30 xyz why wouldn't desu be taken
14:31 artur99 my internet provider doesn't accept port forwarding
14:31 artur99 :(
14:31 artur99 and a VPS is really expensive
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14:32 artur99 so, can anybody help me setting it up?
14:32 VanessaE hey EvergreenTree
14:32 EvergreenTree Happy New Year's day everyone!
14:32 VanessaE artur99: a cheap VPS will run you $20/mo, that's what mine costs
14:32 artur99 rly?
14:32 VanessaE it's enough for one very active server, or a few quiet ones.
14:32 VanessaE yeah
14:32 VanessaE linode.com
14:32 artur99 i'd like but im just a kid now :( i dont have too much money :D
14:32 VanessaE it's slow but effective.
14:33 xyz that's not the cheapest deal
14:33 VanessaE well get your ass out of mom's basement :)
14:33 artur99 and which's the cheapest?
14:33 VanessaE xyz: it's the cheapest linode offers anyway
14:33 VanessaE I'm sure there are cheaper plans from other hosts.
14:34 xyz there are some sites
14:34 VanessaE (with equally fewer features)
14:34 xyz like http://serverbear.com/
14:34 artur99 i found one too> http://www.hostyd.org/vps-hosting.html
14:34 artur99 :D
14:34 xyz starting at 1$/month
14:35 artur99 what are these> UnixBench, I/O, IOPS?
14:35 VanessaE 3GB storage, 128MB of RAM, 100GB bandwidth
14:35 VanessaE you'll blow through that in the first day.
14:36 xyz sure, and buying vps is a bad idea anyway
14:36 artur99 why?
14:36 xyz because overselling
14:36 xyz your cpu and hdd is not yours
14:37 xyz but shared across all vpses on that dedicated box
14:38 VanessaE xyz: some folks can't justify $50+/mo for a dedicated server,
14:38 artur99 500mb ram would be ok, for no more than 10 players server?
14:38 xyz VanessaE: well there're different kinds of dedicated servers
14:38 VanessaE artur99: 500 MB would be adequate for one minetest instance, yeah
14:38 xyz it seems kimsufi those days start from 8 euro / month
14:38 xyz 2gb ram, 500 gb disk
14:40 VanessaE sure would be nice if their site were in english :P
14:41 VanessaE ick
14:41 xyz well i didn't specify the cpu for a reason
14:41 artur99 but 200-300mb?
14:41 VanessaE for those 8 euros/mo you get a 1-core 1.2 GHz box.
14:41 VanessaE bleh
14:41 xyz but it's all yours
14:41 xyz I think it's pretty decent for a torrent seedbox or something
14:41 VanessaE so?  this is minetest we're talking about
14:42 xyz it's in C++, it has to be fast!
14:42 VanessaE you need at least 3-4 cores to make it work well.
14:42 xyz wait, there was a quote about hosting a server on an atom!
14:42 xyz shit, can't find it
14:42 xyz anyway, you won't be able to host it on cheap vps either
14:43 VanessaE 18 euros/mo for a 4-core 2.4 GHz box with 8 GB RAM and 2*500 GB storage.  not bad.
14:44 EvergreenTree ^ probably the specs of a new machine I'm building soon
14:44 EvergreenTree except 3.8ghz, not 2.4
14:44 xyz except 64 gb of ram, not 8
14:44 EvergreenTree That is actually a good deal
14:45 xyz except 2 * 4 tb of storage, not 2 * 500 gb
14:45 xyz otherwise same shit
14:45 EvergreenTree lol
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14:47 markveidemanis Hi
14:47 markveidemanis Can anyone suggest what to do with a spare quad core machine?
14:48 markveidemanis I got linux
14:48 markveidemanis Got Samba, SSH, SFTP
14:48 EvergreenTree Uh. make a server with it?
14:48 EvergreenTree :P
14:48 xyz markveidemanis: install xbmc and wire it to your 60" tv
14:49 artur99 this is not good> http://serverbear.com/2005-openvz384-iperweb ?
14:49 markveidemanis I must say that it has no HDMI cable
14:50 xyz artur99: cheap host ain't going to be good
14:50 xyz if you plan to host a minetest server then it's probably a bad idea
14:50 artur99 why? because of the ram
14:50 artur99 ?
14:51 artur99 or the price?
14:51 xyz I'd say because of the CPU; minetest isn't really ram intensive, although I'm not sure if 384 will be enough for anything
14:51 xyz the only way to know would be to test it anyway
14:52 xyz markveidemanis: what's the cpu?
14:52 markveidemanis A sec
14:52 artur99 but... i plan to have only 5-6 players
14:53 markveidemanis http://local.marktest.co.uk/lscpu.txt
14:53 xyz the only way to know would be to buy it and test, as I said
14:54 xyz markveidemanis: so what's the cpu model?
14:54 markveidemanis Model?
14:54 markveidemanis Intel?
14:55 Jordach artur99, your router provides port forwarding
14:55 xyz no, model as in "model nime"
14:56 xyz s/nime/name/
14:56 markveidemanis All i know is in that file
14:56 artur99 yeah... i tried to do that, i contacted the admins from www.edimax.com for help, and they said i cant do port forwarding because of my internet provider
14:56 xyz then better not try anything if you don't even know what cpu you have
14:56 markveidemanis GenuineIntel?
14:57 markveidemanis Intel Atom :P
14:57 xyz yeah sure
14:57 xyz if that's an atom then better throw it away
14:58 markveidemanis IM gonna use it for something
14:58 artur99 intel core i7 :))
14:58 markveidemanis Atom55...
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15:05 artur99 i think 1 core and 384 mb ram would be ok for 25$/year
15:07 Jordach artur99, VanessaE gets better than that
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15:08 Jordach lol
15:08 artur99 and the price?
15:08 Jordach pastebin dude
15:08 artur99 :D
15:08 artur99 o.O  thats awesome
15:08 artur99 where/
15:09 artur99 thx
15:12 xyz inb4 minetest lags, halp
15:13 artur99 and it is good for a small-medium server?
15:17 xyz who knows
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15:19 artur99 webmin or kloxo control pannel?
15:21 xyz lololol
15:23 xyz you don't need it
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15:53 harrison how is 2014 dawning? are you ready for the prophesied 2014 mayan apocalypse?
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15:56 Jordach !stfu harrison
15:56 MinetestBot harrison, someone thinks you need to shut the fuck up before you get muted.
15:56 jin_xi again? maya shit? i thought that was over 2 years ago...
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16:00 VanessaE there's another apocalypse?
16:00 VanessaE I didn't even know we had one already :P
16:04 harrison the glyphs were slightly mistranslated
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16:18 harrison Coincidence?
16:18 harrison I think not.
16:25 Naked happy new year
16:28 markveidemanis Hally new year
16:28 markveidemanis Haiiy New Year
16:28 harrison darwin ripped off all his "theories" from pavlov
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16:37 NekoGloop naked new year
16:37 markveidemanis I need something to write about, anything
16:37 RealBadAngel Hairy new year!
16:37 markveidemanis hhello new n00bs
16:42 Hirato write about the caterpillar conspiracy to control the dolphins
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16:46 markveidemanis iL WRiTE AbOut New YeAr#
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16:49 harrison wait! the caterpillars are up to their old tricks again? someone warn the dolphins!
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17:01 artur99 what means Hostname: when i want to buy a server?
17:02 rubenwardy google.com
17:02 rubenwardy etc?
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17:03 rubenwardy google.com, facebook.com, bbc.co.uk, minetest.net. these are all Domains (not sure if domain = hostname)
17:03 markveidemanis hostname is the ip of the host pc
17:03 markveidemanis there could be more than 1 ip on the server
17:04 markveidemanis for example shared hosting
17:05 xyz Jordach: no bully please
17:05 * specing notest that neither rubenwardy nor markveidemanis know what a hostname is
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17:05 xyz of course
17:06 marko good evening
17:06 xyz hostname is a name of your waifu
17:06 markveidemanis GOOD EVENING!
17:06 markveidemanis AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR!
17:06 marko thamks to you too
17:06 marko thanks
17:07 phantombeta Can someone tell me a good server that should have a lot of people playing?
17:07 nore phantombeta, you can try VanessaE's servers
17:07 specing phantombeta: sky
17:07 xyz default
17:08 nore vanessae.mine.bz, ports 30000 to 30004 for different servers
17:08 xyz nore: how many people are there?
17:09 marko waiting for my sisters kid to get online to see what i have done in my save
17:09 nore xyz, depends on time of day, but there is almost always someone logged in
17:09 nore and sometimes, like 10 people playing at once
17:09 markveidemanis Installing Ubuntu without GUI
17:10 markveidemanis Same as server?
17:10 markveidemanis Ubuntu Server
17:10 marko ubuntu server
17:10 xyz hmm
17:10 xyz currently there're 35 on sky server
17:10 nore ...
17:10 marko ben on one but it was laggy and lots of guest accounts
17:10 nore sky is freeminer, right?
17:12 markveidemanis Regarding a hostname, its the address your ISP give you!
17:12 markveidemanis (4e005e00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.0.94.0) sort of
17:12 markveidemanis and shouldnt webchat be banned
17:12 marko it must be something like 192.168.x.x
17:13 markveidemanis ...
17:13 markveidemanis NO
17:14 markveidemanis Thats an internal ip
17:14 markveidemanis That your router giver you
17:14 marko oh my bad
17:14 markveidemanis But only once
17:14 phantombeta UUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHHH
17:14 markveidemanis External ips are managed by IANA
17:14 phantombeta My PC is taking a year to enter the server
17:14 markveidemanis Internet Assigned Numbers Authority
17:19 markveidemanis They reserved example.com
17:21 harrison ip freeley
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17:24 UTB Ello
17:24 UTB Can someone help me understand the use of pins in luacontroller
17:24 UTB i read the tutorial but i still dont get it :\
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17:28 rubenwardy Do you mean A/B/C/D?
17:28 rubenwardy You just connect mesecon wires to them, and when the lua code tells them too, they light up and trigger the wires.
17:30 UTB ohh
17:30 EvergreenTree <sfan5|> 'pin' is the input and 'port' is the output
17:31 iqualfragile VanessaE: http://sebsauvage.net/paste/?6b4ed906f8ace300#rNkf5OCc4GjbOccmG7t175G8hKegGQMRScgZXJQTcXY=
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17:32 markveidemanis Is Python guests = guests + 1 === guests =+ 1
17:32 artur99 RealBadAngel, your links are not working
17:32 FreeFull markveidemanis: I think so
17:32 FreeFull It is in a lot of languages
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17:33 iqualfragile markveidemanis: yes
17:34 artur99 is there any HQ texture pack on the forum?
17:34 Megaf !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
17:34 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 is up (487ms)
17:35 Megaf Hi all
17:36 nore markveidemanis, almost
17:36 nore it is with ints, but NOT with some other data structures (it will be different for lists, for example)
17:37 markveidemanis ok
17:48 artur99 must i delete creative folder from game>mods before unpacking unified_inventory mod?
17:48 artur99 *games>minetest_game>mods
17:49 harrison 12,04we are not in a hurry!
17:49 UTB what is event iid?
17:50 artur99 wow! that takes off my eyes!
17:54 Issa2013 hi
17:54 Issa2013 how to be a god on the server please ?
17:55 xyz markveidemanis: it's +=, not =+
17:56 artur99 what happend with www.mesecons.tk ?
17:58 nore it is mesecons.net now
17:58 iqualfragile nore wouldnt a redirect be better?
17:59 artur99 oh
17:59 nore I don't know... maybe he hasn't the domain name anymore
18:00 iqualfragile would be strange as .tk domains are free
18:01 nore dunno...
18:01 nore it has been quite a long time since it has changed though
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18:07 UTB what is event.iid?
18:09 artur99 how to set a respawn point for a map?
18:11 markveidemanis I think event iid is intereup event
18:11 markveidemanis you can do interrupt(1, "pull")
18:11 markveidemanis if event.iid == "pull" then...
18:12 markveidemanis idk why this is usefu
18:13 Issa2013 how teleport on minetest with coordonne like this --> 172,20,-52 ?
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18:16 Issa2013 How i add teleport permission for user on my server
18:16 Issa2013 i have modifi this minetest.conf
18:17 artur99 write this /grant playername teleport
18:17 Issa2013 but now working --> default_privs = interact, shout, teleport
18:18 Issa2013 artur99, your pribiliege is insifusient
18:19 artur99 but do u have all the privs active?
18:19 artur99 write /grant your_name_in_game all
18:19 Issa2013 artur99, http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-52c45c4083ae98.11427715.jpg
18:20 artur99 write /grant issa all
18:20 artur99 or wait
18:20 artur99 you are the admin?
18:22 Issa2013 yes but i have confg nothing on minetest
18:22 Issa2013 so how add a player admin of the server ?
18:22 Issa2013 in minetest.conf
18:24 Issa2013 i found this --> http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Server_commands#Privilege_manipulation
18:24 Issa2013 but not explain you how to be administrateur of u server
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18:27 artur99 beeing an admin means to have all the privs
18:28 artur99 so you make a player admin writing this: /grant player_to_make_admin all
18:28 Evolykane The whole shit of permissionsystem should be reworked
18:31 Issa2013 ok that's work i m admin
18:31 Issa2013 but i can write the 7 in command
18:31 Issa2013 ingame
18:33 artur99 what do you mean by the 7
18:48 markveidemanis Zeg9 had problems with writing 7s
18:49 * EvergreenTree uses an IBM Model M Keyboard
18:49 markveidemanis ingame with the azerty
18:51 * markveidemanis looka at the scrollback
18:51 markveidemanis Seems we have a common case of N00bitus
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18:54 blaise hello?
19:02 artur99 minetest still allows lan playing?
19:02 artur99 my brother cant connect?
19:02 artur99 *!
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19:07 markveidemanis ...
19:08 markveidemanis http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/all/minetest-mod-pipeworks/filelist
19:10 * markveidemanis goes to mess around with pipeworks
19:10 markveidemanis artur99
19:11 artur99 what?
19:11 markveidemanis You used to be on 30010, right?
19:11 markveidemanis "When will I get a wolf"
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19:17 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
19:17 PilzAdam Happy new year!
19:17 markveidemanis Happy New Year PilzAdam!
19:18 markveidemanis For once, just once say Happy New Year Everyone!
19:18 markveidemanis Is CentOS lighter  that Lubuntu?
19:19 markveidemanis Or Red Hat Enterprise...
19:19 markveidemanis Minetest server on an Atom processor is the aim
19:23 markveidemanis If anyone wants to muck about with pipeworks i think local.marktest.co.uk:3000 still works
19:26 sfan5 20:26:30: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: Player with the name "Admin" tried to connect from 37.112.39.217 but it was disallowed [...]
19:26 sfan5 what the hell
19:27 sfan5 do they think it will work if they try it 10 times
19:28 xyz why was it disallowed?
19:28 sfan5 because I don't like people with the name Admin connecting
19:28 Peacock what if they used "OurLordandSaviour"?
19:29 Peacock btw, i often had douches trying to connect using my own name, except i never went by peacock/mauvebic on my server lol
19:29 sfan5 WTF why does 'to' resolve to something
19:30 xyz what's the server in question?
19:30 xyz I'll make sure to never connect there
19:30 Peacock mine or sfans? lol
19:31 xyz sfan5's
19:31 * sfan5 only has one server
19:32 xyz ah
19:32 xyz no wonder why's there zero players always
19:32 sfan5 >zero players always >currently 18 players
19:32 sfan5 !server sfan5
19:32 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
19:32 sfan5 wat
19:32 sfan5 !server hunger games
19:32 MinetestBot sfan5: Hunger Games | 79.235.6.206:30002 | Clients: 18/25, 22 | Version: 0.4.8-dev | ping: 0.120
19:32 xyz ah, right
19:33 xyz were zero a moment ago according to the server list
19:33 sfan5 it restarts after every game (for resetting the map)
19:34 sfan5 could someone post the output of 'dig to'?
19:35 xyz alright
19:35 xyz that's not nice anyway
19:35 xyz also ^ babbys first dns
19:35 xyz > can someone teach me hao dns werks
19:36 sfan5 > domain without tld > completly normal
19:36 xyz > still not understanding how dns works
19:36 Peacock can general tao teech me how dns werks
19:37 sfan5 What is wrong with my understanding of dns?
19:38 Peacock spam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8154
19:39 xyz you're too surprised about to.
19:40 Peacock (for a second there i thought it was another bitcoin mod) :P
19:40 sfan5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=123892#p123892
19:40 sfan5 > attaching .docx with text and screenshot instead of putting then into the post
19:40 sfan5 s/then/them/
19:47 markveidemanis Peacock == mauvebic?
19:47 Peacock lol
19:48 sfan5 !seen cake
19:48 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen cake around.
19:48 sfan5 !seen beer
19:48 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen beer around.
19:48 Peacock !seen strippers
19:48 MinetestBot Peacock: Sorry, I haven't seen strippers around.
19:49 MinetestBot john_minetest: Sorry, I haven't seen somebody_being_turned around.
19:54 markveidemanis !seen yourass
19:54 Peacock the bot doesn't like you, you're unperson
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19:59 markveidemanis sfan5
19:59 markveidemanis Do you have minecraft?
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19:59 Peacock he must have if he wrote a map converter :P
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20:10 Calinou no, he could use a non-legit copy of it, or demo version
20:10 Calinou or data off Minecraft Wiki
20:10 Calinou specifications of the map format are available widely on the Internet
20:10 Calinou and worlds can be downloaded too
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20:11 VanessaE haha
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20:11 VanessaE first time I've seen calinou get booted from HERE for "excess flood" and it actually was correct :D
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20:12 Jordach markveidemanis, he owns full
20:12 Calinou I'm lagging
20:13 Jordach <Jordach> if you've paid for mc, go grab the launcher :P
20:13 Jordach <sfan5> I haz paid
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20:17 markveidemanis Same but not legit
20:17 markveidemanis Could someone help me with pipeworks?
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20:34 trauerlicht happy new year :)
20:35 markveidemanis Happy
20:37 PilzAdam "The companies pay you for there adds" lol
20:37 markveidemanis Lets all migrate to 'HAHA'
20:38 Peacock adds or ads?
20:38 Peacock cuz people pay for facebook likes and retweets too,
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20:45 markveidemanis Centos vs Lubuntu for minetest servers?
20:46 Jordach if you're going to be using a vps, use debain 6 with nothing
20:46 Jordach or debian 7
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21:00 markveidemanis tried one of  them
21:00 markveidemanis lubuntu is the only one that works for me
21:00 Peacock give it an update cycle or two, it wont :P
21:01 xyz > lubuntu
21:01 xyz > server
21:04 xyz that's not going to end good
21:04 FreeFull_ Why would you want a GUI on your server in the first place?
21:04 xyz do people seriously believe than there are those who donate?
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21:05 xyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8107
21:06 Peacock preaching to the choir lol i told em theyre nuts
21:08 xyz oh god this topic where guy complains about media directory being too big (less than 1 gb)
21:10 xyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=123882#p123882
21:10 xyz oh why are they doing this
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21:22 Jordach evenin kaz
21:24 kaeza evenings
21:24 kaeza happy new year
21:24 Peacock hows ye olde hangover?
21:25 VanessaE you know, every year I get drunk as a skunk, and I have yet to get a hangover, even a slight one.  guess I'm lucky like that :)
21:26 kaeza dunno, I just got up <.<
21:26 Peacock depends on the type of alcohol, and what you drink along with it :P
21:27 Peacock white wine gives me migraines *while* im drinking it
21:27 markveidemanis Back at 21:04; Well i still use it as a normal pc
21:27 Peacock rum + coke = fine, rum = await the rapture next morning :P
21:27 VanessaE just white zinfandel and usually nothing alongside it (though often preceded by my regular bottle of crystal light, or a protein drink)
21:27 VanessaE lol
21:28 markveidemanis Do it in minetest
21:28 kaeza Whiskey+cider here
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21:29 Peacock i try to stick to beer :P i drink all the stronger stuff just as fast so thats not good
21:30 VanessaE beer?  yuck :P
21:30 VanessaE course the stuff I drink may as well be milk, it's only 6% ABV :)
21:31 Calinou ABV?
21:31 Peacock simple economics :P i drink a 12$ 12pack as fast as a 35$ mickey of rum :P
21:31 VanessaE Alcohol By Volume
21:31 VanessaE the usual way it's measured here
21:31 Calinou milk has alcohol?
21:31 Peacock 6%? about as strong as my beer
21:31 Calinou anyway, I don't drink personally
21:31 Peacock but youre french?!
21:31 Peacock :P
21:32 Calinou I didn't have a hangover, I went to bed at midnight, but I woke up late.
21:32 Peacock plus you guys pay alot less for wine than we do :P
21:32 VanessaE right, he doesn't *drink*...he EATS the alcohol as part of his normal meals :)
21:32 Peacock lol
21:32 VanessaE you know, cooked into the food :D
21:32 Calinou Peacock, in france, people do drink quite a lot on average
21:32 markveidemanis Capri Sun here
21:32 markveidemanis I'm Badass
21:32 PilzAdam I just lost my hangover!
21:32 Calinou VanessaE, I mean, beer, wine and that stuff
21:32 Peacock well i kinda figured since it's cheap :P
21:32 Calinou the Minetest drink: Coca Coal
21:33 Calinou 100% Sam II approved
21:33 Peacock in australia they drink so much beer they turned the byproduct of beer production into a breakfast spread - Vegemite :P
21:33 markveidemanis the next time soneone says lol...
21:33 markveidemanis Im laging
21:33 Peacock lol
21:35 PilzAdam VanessaE, fixed stats, update
21:35 VanessaE will do later
21:35 markveidemanis lol
21:35 markveidemanis lol
21:35 markveidemanis *Haha
21:35 markveidemanis Please
21:36 Peacock plol = when you lol so hard you p yourself :P
21:37 Peacock wow my ISP knows how to crash a party, they sent me a bill today lol
21:37 sfan5 lolololololol
21:37 VanessaE haha
21:37 VanessaE as did my VPS :P
21:38 * sfan5 throws Bill Gates at VanessaE
21:38 Peacock (i asked for paper bills months ago and they still email them to me at random intervals :P)
21:38 Jordach VanessaE, how much?
21:38 Peacock VPS, Virtual Private Stripper? i think ive seen that app
21:38 sfan5 Peacock: maybe you should change ISPs
21:38 VanessaE Jordach: $20, same as usual
21:39 sfan5 s/s//
21:39 VanessaE Peacock: Virtual Private Server, you twit :P
21:39 Peacock meh, so long as they're the cheapest ones and offer unlimited bandwidth, i can deal with the somewhat random billing :P
21:39 Jordach Peacock, you're pissed
21:39 Jordach go home :)
21:40 Peacock pissed off or pissed drunk? neither is true lol
21:40 Peacock well there might still be aftereffects from last night... :P
21:41 Jordach plol
21:42 Peacock "why isn't my key working" "its the wrong building..." :P
21:43 markveidemanis DLOL
21:43 Peacock though, not as bad as this guy :P http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2509837/Teenager-went-drunken-night-Oldham-woke-PARIS.html
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21:58 rBok6 hello
21:58 rBok6 i eed some help
21:59 rBok6 I trying to use Minetoon 0.4 texture pack but something is not working
22:05 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Bump version to 0.4.9 1ad81c1ce3 2014-01-01T13:54:28-08:00 http://git.io/lYBmEQ
22:07 EvergreenTree yay
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22:15 Calinou dat new version
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22:19 EvergreenTree Me!  (pose and model by Jordach, skin by me) http://i.imgur.com/LDUAAok.png
22:21 PilzAdam EvergreenTree, I thought this was you: http://z0r.de/3105
22:21 EvergreenTree no, that's my stoner brother
22:26 Jordach ideas.... ideas....
22:26 * Jordach uses evil genius voice
22:30 EvergreenTree He's a party animal
22:30 EvergreenTree I never really liked him
22:30 PilzAdam s/animal/tree/
22:36 EvergreenTree I knew you would say that
22:36 Exio4 does anyone know a cheap low-power/small board with audio input and ethernet ports?
22:39 Jordach rasPI
22:39 PilzAdam !g cheap low-power/small board with audio input and ethernet ports
22:39 MinetestBot PilzAdam: http://iqjar.com/jar/an-overview-and-comparison-of-todays-single-board-micro-computers/
22:41 Exio4 Jordach: that is why i said audio input
22:44 Exio4 all the boards are way too expensive for what i want :(
22:44 Exio4 and those are the cheapest
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22:46 sfan5 Exio4: an arm board?
22:46 Exio4 would be nice
22:46 Exio4 but if it runs linux, good enough
22:47 Exio4 the hardware doesn't need to be that powerful, but audio INPUT and ethernet port
22:47 Exio4 128mb, super-shitty gpu, and a 600mhz armv6 cpu would be actually good enough for what i want to do
22:49 Exio4 i don't even need usb ports...
22:49 PilzAdam what do you want to do?
22:49 sfan5 if $135.00 cheap?
22:49 sfan5 s/if/is/
22:49 Exio4 not really
22:49 sfan5 if yes -> http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135235611947
22:49 Exio4 u/x/droid :P
22:49 Exio4 i don't want performance
22:50 Exio4 PilzAdam: streaming shit
22:50 sfan5 that is the only odroid with microphone jack
22:50 Exio4 in that link MinetestBot gave us are cheaper boards
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22:51 Exio4 but they have "too good hardware" for what i want anyway, wanted to know if there were even cheaper boards
22:51 PilzAdam make your own board
22:52 Exio4 good idea!
22:52 sfan5 just buy an 16/32-bit ADC and write a driver for linux utilizing GPIOs and there your go
22:54 sfan5 PCM16 has good enough audio quality
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22:58 Exio4 sfan5: what.
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22:59 sfan5 Exio4: "what." what?
23:00 Exio4 so, i code the driver and the shit and connect it where?
23:01 sfan5 to some gpio pins
23:01 Exio4 gpio pins where
23:01 Exio4 a rpi?
23:01 sfan5 on your existing cheap arm board
23:01 Exio4 i don't have any existing cheap arm board
23:01 Exio4 that is the point
23:01 sfan5 then buy one
23:02 Exio4 meh
23:02 PilzAdam !g existing cheap arm board
23:02 MinetestBot PilzAdam: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_hardware_projects
23:03 Exio4 i would be searching for the starting point PilzAdam
23:11 Exio4 $ sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
23:11 Exio4 [sudo] password for exio4:
23:11 Exio4 yay :D
23:12 sfan5 Exio4: did you consider an usb microphone?
23:12 sfan5 s/microphone/microphone jack/
23:12 Exio4 thought there would be a cheaper board with it integrated that rpi b + external usb card
23:16 Exio4 isn't it already released VanessaE?
23:16 VanessaE doesn't look like it to me.
23:19 VanessaE wait, what?
23:19 VanessaE which are we talking about, minetest or some piece of hardware?
23:19 VanessaE (see -dev)
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23:55 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, crashes after update?
23:56 Exio4 VanessaE: minetest
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23:57 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: No, exceptions lock it up, and the update caused exceptions.

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