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00:00 thexyz doing illegal stuff is not nice at all
00:00 Peacock well it kinda destroys your case if you're doing it too lol
00:00 thexyz even "in revenge" and shit
00:00 thexyz anyway good luck compiling it
00:00 RealBadAngel just jokin, but i like the style of them
00:00 thexyz pull requests also are welcome
00:00 RealBadAngel theyre neat
00:01 RealBadAngel thexyz, be prepared for tons of them
00:01 RealBadAngel damn, i bought a tablet for it :)
00:02 Peacock portable pron :P
00:02 RealBadAngel i do have women sleepin next to me, dont need pron :P
00:02 Peacock women plural?
00:02 Peacock good job :-)
00:03 RealBadAngel ha ha
00:04 RealBadAngel anyways, galaxy tab 3 is quite nice
00:04 specing wow very women
00:04 specing many sleeps much bed
00:04 PilzAdam english is weird, why do you differ plural by only changing a single character somewhere in the middle of the word?
00:04 kaeza ^
00:04 specing all natural languages are weird
00:05 Peacock well english, like the british royal family, has germanic roots i believe :P
00:06 Peacock tho, women = many, woman = one, men = plenty, man = one
00:06 RealBadAngel in polish plural is made way different
00:06 Peacock though french pronouns are even worse, they distinguish sex
00:07 RealBadAngel you shall try cases
00:07 kaeza one mouse or many mice, so... one house or many hice?
00:07 RealBadAngel i mean in polish
00:07 Peacock so totally inanimate objects end up having gender, "un char" (one car, male), "une fenetre" (a window, female)
00:07 RealBadAngel i knew one guy, english native speaker
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00:08 PilzAdam me too
00:08 RealBadAngel he was teaching me english
00:08 RealBadAngel and i used to say fuck the tenses
00:08 RealBadAngel he answered fuck the cases
00:08 Peacock mouse = mice, house = houses (or housing, thats plural but not specific)
00:08 PilzAdam RealBadAngel apparently also said "fuck capitalizing i" and "fuck typing "you" out"
00:09 Peacock well txtspeak is gonna rise in use even more with tablets
00:09 Peacock unless you have autocracy
00:10 Peacock *autocorrect :P
00:10 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, btw, have you tried auto generating normalmaps yet?
00:10 PilzAdam no
00:11 RealBadAngel why?
00:11 RealBadAngel i thought u liked "bumped" effect?
00:11 PilzAdam a) Im not very interested b) I have other things to do c) Im too lazy
00:12 specing Since we are talking languages here
00:12 specing http://www.carniola.org/categor​y/you-will-never-learn-slovene/
00:12 RealBadAngel you said you liked Bumped texture pack....
00:12 Exio4 62% of the last hannibal episode
00:13 RealBadAngel about languages:
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00:13 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxUm-2x-2dM
00:13 RealBadAngel watch this
00:14 Exio4 talking in english is hard as fuck compared to spanish or italian
00:14 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, you will propably find out this even more fun
00:14 Exio4 "chico" sounds like chico or chico, doesn't matter the context or other shits
00:16 Peacock here chico is another slang term for joint (marijuana)
00:16 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, I get it, they talk british
00:16 RealBadAngel oder deutsch ;)
00:17 RealBadAngel so, will you try the patch?
00:18 PilzAdam have you read the 3 reasons?
00:18 Peacock inadequate, need 5 more
00:19 Peacock 4 if you do a handstand
00:19 PilzAdam d) its 1:19 e) *handstand*
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00:19 Peacock lol nice
00:20 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, that code is quite rdy for merging, im just asking for opinions
00:20 Peacock it wasn't easy finding a tor##nt of x-files (the 90's tv show), so much pron showing up in the results :/
00:21 RealBadAngel also, fun fact, minecraft (notch team, not modders) have released shaders lately
00:21 Peacock sue them
00:21 RealBadAngel and "bumped" is in
00:21 PilzAdam fun fact: notch team doesnt even contain notch anymore
00:21 Peacock odd timing lol
00:21 Peacock naw he's busy eating his way to diabeetus
00:22 RealBadAngel i should say mojang team
00:22 RealBadAngel but thats true, theyre doing shaders now
00:22 Peacock I knew a man Mojangles and he'd dance for you in worn out shoes
00:23 Peacock i wont post the rest of the song ill be kicked for flooding lol
00:23 RealBadAngel http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Shaders
00:24 RealBadAngel http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/min​ecraft.gamepedia.com/9/9e/Bumpy.png
00:24 Peacock my eyes must be shit, i cant see a diff. between the different screenshots on that gamepedia page lol
00:24 RealBadAngel click on them
00:25 Peacock the art one raises the bar for the fugly though
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00:26 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/Jh13V2j.png
00:26 RealBadAngel for comaprision
00:26 PilzAdam your Minetest version is dirty
00:27 Peacock dirty in a "hey baby" sort of way?
00:27 PilzAdam thats up to the reader
00:27 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/NcVNdwL.png
00:28 Megaf Hi all
00:29 RealBadAngel dirty.... ;)
00:29 thexyz have you compiled it yet?
00:29 Peacock this one kinda looks more retro http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/File:Bits.png
00:30 RealBadAngel you want somethin even more retro?
00:30 Peacock this one would be cool for nightvision, but not all the time: http://minecraft.gamepedia.com/File:Green.png
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00:30 thexyz yes just write ascii renderer
00:30 RealBadAngel eat this: http://i.imgur.com/xwVkd83.png
00:30 RealBadAngel ;)
00:31 RealBadAngel ascii miner? could be fun ;)
00:31 Peacock looks like an LSD trip
00:32 thexyz http://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/minecr​aft.gamepedia.com/a/a6/Desaturate.png
00:32 RealBadAngel its Lego :P
00:32 thexyz http://faublog.ru/pic/poland_rainbow.gif :^)
00:32 Peacock desaturate filter ... could throw in ads for antidepressents lol
00:32 RealBadAngel propably u re too young to get the point ;)
00:33 Peacock i had legos but the tops were short little cylinders not balls :P
00:34 thexyz I'd like the ability to be able to control shaders from the server per-player
00:34 thexyz imagine all those drugs mods
00:34 RealBadAngel thexyz, all effects (well almost all) are made using kernels, predefined matrices to operate on texels
00:34 RealBadAngel my last commit introduces kernels
00:34 thexyz I know some words from those you wrote
00:35 Peacock will kernel sanders be there?
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00:36 RealBadAngel kernel is not like linux kernels
00:36 RealBadAngel its a matrix that defines how the texel will be transformed
00:37 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/mine​test/blob/master/client/shaders/soli​ds_shader/opengl_fragment.glsl#L19
00:37 RealBadAngel that for example is Sobel's kernel
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00:39 Peacock so.... no http://image1.findagrave.com/phot​os/2009/251/926_125254553312.jpg ?
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00:53 troller specing, item_drop must be client-side feature
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00:59 specing troller: therefore item_pickup too?
01:00 specing you are more than right, several fast-paced games have auto-pickup as an option
01:01 troller it tries check all objects near every player 10 times per second..
01:01 troller if you moving fast - it cant work
01:03 Peacock minetest used to auto pick up :P
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01:08 specing used to?
01:08 specing why was it disabled?
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01:19 Jordach evening
01:20 Jordach Peacock: I agree with your two posts, as linux made software runs best on linux (see openshot)
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01:46 Peacock jordach i just don't get onpon's idea that linux software is developed for linux 1st, when that's the case for win and mac :P
01:46 Peacock * first is = isn't
01:47 Hirato I write stuff on Linux for Linux, it's just a coincidence that it also works on Windows p.o
01:48 Jordach lua does that and doesn't fail either (love2d)
01:53 Jordach I've once wrote something in a portable language and it just works, love is an excellent example, as its binaries (.love) work on all three major operating systems
01:54 Hirato yeah, Linux, FreeBSD, and Windows
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01:55 specing Hirato: it can't be a coincidence
01:55 specing nothing works on windows
01:55 Jordach windows only got market share due to it being the successor to dos
01:56 specing No, Windows got the market share because its alternatives - UNIXes were several thousand dollars per license!
01:56 Jordach mac will fail to get there as apple shit on standards
01:56 specing so mostly HP, IBM and SGI are to blame for windows
01:57 PilzAdam Jordach, what about Java?
01:57 Enke Are we having a win v. linux debat again?
01:57 Jordach big question: what if current linux was around 30 years ago? (and minus stallman)
01:57 PilzAdam Enke, its not a debate, everyone here is on Linux' side
01:57 Enke Yeah, you have a point.
01:57 PilzAdam its more like a rant
01:58 Jordach ...can't I be grumpy at 2am?
01:58 Enke I do want to install a linux OS.
01:58 specing If Linux was available 30 years ago at its current state, windows wouldn't exist
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01:59 Enke specing: I think part of the problem is that people are shown by culture that linux is only for advanced users, and how many people are advanced users. Hence the term "users"
02:01 specing l-users
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02:04 Jordach blender fits that category well
02:05 Peacock we'd all be better off without stallman :P
02:05 Peacock he's mostly good for cooercing copyrights, taking credit and making speeches. as for code, there's emacs lol
02:08 Jordach PilzAdam, BF4?
02:08 PilzAdam hell no
02:08 PilzAdam (I dont support EA anymore)
02:08 Jordach and I thought I was grumpy at this late hour
02:09 Jordach EA is far better than capcom for fan service
02:10 PilzAdam if we are both grumpy then we should sit on a park bench and grumble about the youth
02:10 FreeFull specing: if FreeBSD was available before Linux was, would Linux exist?
02:11 Jordach I can get plane tickets for around 30 euros...thank easyjet
02:11 PilzAdam fan services like spying your personal data, forcing you to stay online, selling the game in 10 parts à 30$
02:11 Jordach blame dlc and iaps
02:11 Jordach those are the reason why gaming is in the shitter
02:12 PilzAdam you dont have to accept that! fight against it!
02:12 Peacock lol @ spying, don't need games for that
02:12 Hirato lol, EA, good at fan service, hahahaha
02:12 * PilzAdam imagine what would happen if Stallman would be a gamer
02:12 PilzAdam +s
02:14 SirDigby Gaming is in the shitter because console plebs will buy the same game 6 times for 60 bucks each with 4 dlcs that are 30 bucks each to get a dog skin? the fuck.
02:15 Hirato gaming's in the shitter because console fags slurp up terrible, broken, recycled shit like it's ambrosia
02:16 Hirato case in point, Call of Duty and anything Bethesda made post Morrowind
02:17 Peacock meh, people have been claiming games are in the shitter for the past 20-30 years, what you dont realize is the companies expected you to grow up by now, their new shit is for your little brother :P
02:17 SirDigby Aw I liked Oblivion even though they never finished it.
02:17 Peacock games like myst/riven were designed for grown ups, but those are few and far between
02:17 FreeFull Games for young kids aren't as difficult as they used to be
02:17 SirDigby Zork was
02:17 SirDigby So was 7th guest
02:18 Peacock but games are still designed for kids/adolescents
02:18 Hirato Bethesda's games are so horribly broken, it's not even funny. Surely you've heard the whole "Modders will fix it" thing around them?
02:18 Hirato with that said, most gamers are also retarded, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com​/u/829607/CK2/scotland/03/18.jpg
02:18 Peacock most grown ups don't like playing multiplayer because gamers are retarded lol
02:20 PilzAdam what? nobody posted this yet?
02:20 PilzAdam http://youtu.be/W1ZtBCpo0eU
02:22 FreeFull Hirato: Hahah
02:23 FreeFull That might be a troll
02:23 Hirato nah, people like him are genuine
02:23 FreeFull "Bethesda is the only company that understands gaming"
02:23 Hirato their argument basically boils down to "muh immurshun"
02:24 Peacock hell if you dont like new games, howcomes im always alone on return to castle wolfenstein :P
02:24 SirDigby the argument is because they let people mod their broken unfinished game.
02:24 SirDigby So they basically sell everyone beta software.
02:24 Hirato but that ignores the fact that most of their sales are on the consoles - and those tits are completely fine with it :P
02:25 SirDigby sure
02:25 Peacock <SirDigby> programmers work about as hard as government bureaucrats :P
02:25 SirDigby heh
02:26 Hirato The biggest problem with the development of games, IMO, is that the devs are trying to make movies, rather than games
02:26 Peacock they like to think they're smarter than everyone else, but even a mechanic won't let you drive away with a broken car
02:27 Peacock "good enough" doesn't cut it in most industries, IT is lucky in that regard :P
02:27 Hirato I wouldn't even called Bethesda's atrocities "good enough" haha
02:27 Peacock there ya go lol
02:27 Peacock "good enough" in the food industry might kill people via food poisoning
02:27 Hirato a game that crashes every 15 minutes should not be for sale
02:28 Peacock you wouldn't board a plane that had a "good enough" policy on maintenance either lol
02:28 Hirato from what I've seen, I can only conclude they don't do ANY QA whatsoever at Beth
02:29 PilzAdam <Hirato> a game that crashes every 15 minutes should not be for sale <- thats why we dont sell Minetest
02:29 Peacock lol
02:29 Hirato and if you're wondering why I'm wailing of beth so much, I'm still really angry about Fallout 3
02:30 Hirato lol, minetest is pretty stable for me
02:30 Hirato it's just kind of.. slow?
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02:37 SirDigby Minetest is stable. But everyone seems to like running their servers on a potato.
02:38 Peacock i prefer running it on a pumpkin
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02:40 FreeFull The server part isn't the most efficent
02:40 FreeFull efficient
02:43 kaeza server runs OK on low end hardware (my server is on a CPU @ ~400MHz, 128MB of RAM, 256MB swap)
02:43 FreeFull How many people can get on it?
02:44 kaeza I've seen 10 (and more) at once
02:44 kaeza the main issue is network though
02:50 SirDigby So.. comcast.
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02:54 FreeFull I wonder if there would be any way to push off chunk generation to the clients, without giving them the seed
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03:06 Hirato they kind of need the seed, what's wrong with giving them the seed?
03:07 PilzAdam bye
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04:38 ShadowNinja sfan5: ,,(rainbow test)
04:38 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: test
04:38 ShadowNinja Also ,,(colorize test). The difference seems to be that !rainbow uses the text as the random seed.
04:38 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: test
04:39 Hirato_ ..(rainbow colours and potatoes)
04:39 Hirato_ ,,(rainbow colours and potatoes)
04:39 Hirato_ :<
04:39 ShadowNinja Hmmm, actually it just uses a sequence rather than random colors.
04:39 ShadowBot Hirato_: colours and potatoes
04:40 Hirato_ it's a rainbow; you'd expect a sequence :P
04:40 ShadowNinja Hmmm, yes. :-)
04:41 ShadowNinja I see MTB quit.
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04:46 ShadowNinja BTW, You can also use: ! ~ ?? (But not in the meddle of a message)
04:48 Hirato_ .rainbow dongs
04:48 Hirato_ ~rainbow dongs
04:48 Hirato_ bleh
04:48 ShadowBot Hirato_: dongs
04:48 Peacock lol rainbow dongs
04:49 Peacock !rainbow bitches love rainbows
04:49 ShadowBot Peacock: bitches love rainbows
04:50 Hirato_ !rainbow rainbows are pretty gay
04:50 ShadowBot Hirato_: rainbows are pretty gay
04:50 Peacock !rainbow fellatio
04:50 ShadowBot Peacock: fellatio
04:50 Peacock yeah, the brown kinda sucks, can hardly see it against a black background
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04:51 Hirato_ adjust it
04:51 Hirato_ I made all the colours brighter when I adopted a dark theme
04:51 Hirato_ predictably, the only apps that adjust poorly are either built on GTK.. or a web browser... -_-
04:51 Peacock ah yes, the michael jackson treatment/plugin :P
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09:31 john_minetest Hello everypony
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11:52 thexyz whoa, why isn't minetestbot here?
11:52 thexyz what's going to happen to my !tell?
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11:56 Hirato_ !rainbow give onto thexyz a magical pudding
11:56 ShadowBot Hirato_: give onto thexyz a magical pudding
11:57 john_minetest !rainbow dash
11:57 ShadowBot john_minetest: dash
11:59 Issa2013
11:59 Issa2013 i played withminettest plus
12:00 sapier !rainbow ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
12:00 ShadowBot sapier: ~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=~=
12:00 Issa2013 i played with minetest plus, but some things missing
12:00 Issa2013 like tnt monsters
12:00 sapier what is "minetest plus"?
12:00 Issa2013 sapier,
12:00 Issa2013 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6244
12:01 sapier there's no mob mod in there s no monsters
12:02 Issa2013 how i had it ?
12:03 sapier either by installing simplemobs (if you don't have a reasonable fast pc) or by installing animals_modpack (mobf)
12:03 Issa2013 and activate it on my serrver*
12:04 sapier on server you have to try what is better for you depends on multiple things e.g. what other mods are installed
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12:24 kaeza mornings
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12:33 john_minetest hey
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12:45 Issa2013 sapier, it's very big default of minetest
12:46 Issa2013 u need to make many things before to lay
12:46 Issa2013 :/
12:47 sapier minetest is just an engine, the game you chose "minetest plus" doesn't have monsters, if you want them choose another game ;-)
12:48 sapier or learn how to modify/create your own games ... I know this isn't what you wanted to hear ;-)
12:51 Hirato_ can always just add mods to minetest_plus :P
12:52 sapier that's what I meant with "modify... your own games"
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13:21 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
13:21 Exio4 PilzAdam: S/one/pony/
13:22 Exio4 er
13:29 Issa2013 sapier, u right
13:29 Issa2013 is a force to minetest and  F... big problem
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14:02 Rhy5 !find markviedemanis
14:02 Rhy5 Hmm... what's that command for the last time someone came to IRC?
14:03 PilzAdam /part
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14:04 Rhy5_ So what's that command?
14:04 Hirato_ !seen Rhy5_
14:04 ShadowBot Hirato_: I saw Rhy5_ 19 seconds ago saying "So what's that command?".
14:04 Rhy5_ Ah, thanks.
14:04 Hirato_ !seen people having fun
14:04 ShadowBot Hirato_: seen [channel] <nick>
14:04 Hirato_ :(
14:04 Rhy5_ Aww, lol
14:05 Rhy5_ Brb, need to sign into Rhy5.
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14:05 Hirato_ would've been funnier if it said that it never saw people having fun :(
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14:05 Rhy5__ Arrgghh
14:05 PilzAdam !seen people_having_fun
14:05 ShadowBot PilzAdam: Error: 'people_having_fun' is not a valid nick.  That nick is too long for this server.
14:05 Rhy5__ I need help.
14:05 * PilzAdam hands Rhy5__ another _
14:05 Hirato_ lol
14:06 Hirato_ this boy's no fun
14:06 Rhy5__ I can't log into Rhy5, it's saying that Rhy5 is already signed in.
14:06 Hirato_ it is
14:06 PilzAdam Rhy5__, go to #freenode
14:06 Hirato_ Rhy5 is 519b09ea@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.155.9.234 (81.155.9.234 - http://webchat.freenode.net)
14:06 Hirato_ just ghost that fucker :P
14:06 Rhy5__ Kay, lol.
14:06 Hirato_ and it's a you! :o
14:07 Hirato_ are you sure you don't have a second webchat instance open?
14:07 Rhy5__ No, I don't.
14:07 Rhy5__ No windows open expect this IRC.
14:07 Hirato_ because Rhy5__ and Rhy5 both have the exact same hostmask
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14:08 Rhy5__ I'm at freenode, now what Adam?
14:08 PilzAdam ask for help?
14:08 Hirato_ just ghost it via nickserv
14:08 Hirato_ /msh nickserv ghost Rhy5 hunter2
14:08 Rhy5__ Hmm??
14:10 Rhy5 There.
14:10 Rhy5 Seems NickServ does the job.
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14:11 Rhy5 So I failed with one password, Adam, now I have 2 tries left if this happens another time. If it does happen another time, will it reset back to 3 tries?
14:11 PilzAdam wat?
14:12 Hirato_ lol?
14:12 Rhy5 And I thought I was the noob. :P
14:13 Rhy5 Right, basically I went to freenode, and I did that NickServ command. I gave the wrong password at first, so I had 2 tries left. I got it right the next time. If this problem happens again, would I still only have 2 tries left to put my password in correctly, or will it reset back to 3 tries
14:15 Rhy5 Gtg now byes.
14:16 Issa2013 sapier, i have added this mod to my mynetest game i hope that's works ---> https://github.com/minermoder27/TNT and  https://github.com/sapier/animals_modpack
14:17 Issa2013 how i can know it the mod is loaded in game please ?
14:21 Issa2013 u see there error message ---> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss​/e-52c02fc81fa610.08018261.jpg
14:22 sapier that errors are quite common ignore them
14:22 sapier type /mobf if a menu shows up mobf active
14:23 Issa2013 http://www.enlightenment.org/ss​/e-52c02fc81fa610.08018261.jpg
14:24 Issa2013 i have animals but he is not moving
14:24 sapier they don't move all the time
14:24 john_minetest Issa2013: Enlightenment? That fancy desktop thingie?
14:26 kaeza "made for refrigerators" -- teh_xyz
14:26 sapier usually animals will just stand there for 30 seconds after spawning
14:26 sapier after those 30 seconds stop & go phases are quite random
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14:30 Issa2013 john_minetest, is the best Enlightenment :)
14:30 Exio4 e :D
14:30 * Exio4 gives Issa2013 1DOGE
14:34 Jordach I smell spam https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=8738
14:35 Issa2013 Exio4, :)
14:37 Issa2013 sapier, i have other problem i m usinf dbcraft texture pack, but i can use it on the game mod ?
14:37 sapier of course but dbcraft doesn't have textures for all mods so you'll have the original ones for those mods
14:38 Issa2013 http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/display.​php?image=e-52c033c3e90634.16237332.jpg
14:38 john_minetest Issa2013: I tried it some time ago and it became much better.
14:39 Issa2013 john_minetest, yes the desktop is amasing and omni is perfect
14:40 Issa2013 and terminology no word to says how is very good
14:40 Issa2013 john_minetest, i have sarted to learn dev with EFL
14:40 Issa2013 is really not easy :/
14:41 john_minetest hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
14:42 iqualfragile Issa2013: the enlightment people might not bee that happy about you using their screenshot-uploader for minetest pictures
14:42 iqualfragile better use http://mg.viewskew.com/
14:43 john_minetest It is enlightenment desktop with minetest running
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14:43 Inocudom It looks like Mozilla Firefox is having a fundraiser.
14:44 john_minetest I use the sabayon pastebin all the time although I am using arch.
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14:48 Issa2013 iqualfragile, well it's really i just clik on screenchoot and ths screenshoot is upload automaticly, i think in minetest we can add a mod like this
14:49 kaeza well, you could just set your screenshot path to an NFS/SMB/whatever mounted dir ;)
14:49 kaeza also dropbox
14:51 * kaeza needs more coffee
14:51 Issa2013 kaeza, explain more please
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14:52 kaeza Issa2013, install dropbox, and set screenshot_path to ~/Dropbox/Public, or whatever your public directory is
14:53 kaeza or host your own HTTP server :P
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14:56 Issa2013 kaeza, good i will do it but not now
14:56 Issa2013 now i need to make work my dbcraft texture pack
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15:08 ShadowNinja thexyz: ShadowBot has !tell too.
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15:13 Inocudom A mod by the name of infrastructure needs some testing.
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16:16 Issa2013 sorry but how i know if tnt mod is active on my server please
16:16 PilzAdam type /mods in the in-game chat
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16:20 Issa2013 some cow bug --> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss​/e-52c04b9f50af97.91533994.jpg
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16:29 Issa2013 PilzAdam, thanks but no tnt mod loaded --> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss​/e-52c04d7a9ee461.57618486.jpg  i have installed the mod on this directory --> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss​/e-52c04deb4bee27.49036887.jpg -->hat is wrong please ?
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16:30 PilzAdam you need to enable the mod, either in world.mt or in the configure GUI in world selection
16:33 Jordach afternoon
16:34 john_minetest hey Jordach!
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16:36 Jordach what now
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16:57 Issa2013 i think i need to install this --> https://github.com/minermo​der27/minetest-str_helpers
16:58 Issa2013 so where i need to install it please ?
17:00 Issa2013 i have this error now --> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss​/e-52c0550c794bc0.68689977.jpg
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17:19 xming anyone having success with OSX builds?
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17:19 PilzAdam wut? https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=123445#p123445
17:19 xming I have the 0.4.8-master running with OSX
17:19 PilzAdam can somebody check that?
17:19 xming but it doesn't get keyboard focus :/
17:20 PilzAdam oh, its only buildcraft
17:20 phantombeta Hi
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17:21 Issa2013 PilzAdam, tnt make crashed my server --> http://www.enlightenment.org/ss​/e-52c059edccad56.33576420.jpg
17:21 ShadowNinja Trash it?
17:21 ShadowNinja Maybe reply first.
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17:21 PilzAdam Issa2013, umm... thats not my TNT mod
17:22 Issa2013 u right i have using wrong mod
17:22 Issa2013 now i used the good and that's work
17:22 Issa2013 :)
17:24 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, the ios thing seems new
17:25 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, and trash it, its spam
17:26 Issa2013 do u know the mod where u explose a block the item come to u autamticaly
17:26 Issa2013 ?
17:26 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: I remember seeing it a while ago actually, and I can't, I'm not a moderator on the forum.
17:28 pitriss PilzAdam: Maybe will be good to contact this iOS dev to provide sources too before trashing it? Or it is the same dev who did that buildcraft?
17:29 PilzAdam dunno, its usually thexyz who handles this
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17:31 iqualfragile PilzAdam: that ios problem will solve itself, they use the actual minecraft textures
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17:41 rubenwardy Hi all
17:41 kaeza hey ruben
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17:42 * rubenwardy is playing with SDL
17:42 marioxcc hello
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17:42 marioxcc what's the difference between injectors and filters in the pipeworks mod?
17:43 marioxcc also, can I get items out of an autocrafter top-right grid into a tube?
17:48 Inocudom Why don't servers use the infrastructure mod? It has some good nodes in it.
17:48 rubenwardy Maybe too many nodes?
17:48 pitriss marioxcc: injectors IIRC should send items to tube periodicaly without any other requirement, filter need blinky plant.. (but I may be wrong as injector never worked for me)
17:49 pitriss Inocudom: it has lot of strange hard to reproduce bugs when we tried it..
17:50 Inocudom Ragnarok is back and might be able to fix those bugs.
17:50 pitriss Inocudom: Idk how is it now, but for us it is pointless atm as we are using streets mod.
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17:54 PilzAdam damn
17:54 PilzAdam blaaaaargh rick rold me
17:54 marioxcc pitriss: thanks, it's not working for me either
17:55 pitriss marioxcc: and about getting stuff from autocrafter.. use filter + blinky plant
17:55 pitriss marioxcc: and if you need to transfer whole stacks, use mese filter:)
17:55 marioxcc pitriss: thanks
17:56 marioxcc pitriss: I want to transfer technic RE batteries
17:56 marioxcc they don't stack
17:56 marioxcc will mese filters still work?
17:56 pitriss marioxcc: yw.. so normal filter is enough:)
17:57 pitriss yes.. but mese filters are expensive:)
17:57 TheUniversalBuil What is the difference between a mese filter and a normal filter?
17:57 marioxcc pitriss: ok
17:58 blaaaaargh :D
17:58 marioxcc TheUniversalBuil: from what I have understood, mese filteres transfer a whole stack as if it were a single item
17:58 marioxcc PilzAdam: Do you planon accepting bitcoin donations?
17:58 PilzAdam no
17:58 marioxcc with "you" I mean the developers
17:58 pitriss TheUniversalBuil: mese filter transfer whole stacks, normal one transfer one item
17:58 PilzAdam oh, dunno
17:58 PilzAdam + about the others
17:58 marioxcc PilzAdam: ok
17:58 TheUniversalBuil Ahh
17:58 TheUniversalBuil Thanks, guys
17:59 TheUniversalBuil what happens if there are 98 diamonds in a chest? Would a mese filter filter them out?
18:00 TheUniversalBuil or it has to be 99?
18:00 marioxcc blink plant is
18:00 marioxcc MC MC SP
18:00 marioxcc SP SP ..
18:00 marioxcc .. .. ..
18:00 marioxcc right?
18:00 marioxcc with MC=mesecon and SP=sapling
18:03 TheUniversalBuil it didn't work mario. The guide is wrong again :\
18:03 TheUniversalBuil i tried it
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18:04 marioxcc TheUniversalBuil: I see, thanks
18:04 TheUniversalBuil ahh
18:04 TheUniversalBuil i got it
18:04 TheUniversalBuil mesecon
18:04 marioxcc me too: http://mesecons.net/items/blinkyplant.php
18:04 TheUniversalBuil mesecon
18:04 TheUniversalBuil ok great
18:05 marioxcc :)
18:05 marioxcc thanks
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18:30 qwebirc59148 Hello, I can't connect to server on port 30003 ,why ?
18:30 qwebirc59148 I am Baptiste, friend of Quall
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18:31 PilzAdam to which server?
18:32 qwebirc59148 minetest.megaf.info:30003
18:32 PilzAdam !up minetest.megaf.info 30003
18:32 MinetestBot minetest.megaf.info:30003 seems to be down
18:33 qwebirc59148 :(
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18:34 qwebirc59148 when he will be up ?
18:36 qwebirc59148 someone know when "minetest.megaf.info:30003" will be up ?
18:37 thexyz no
18:37 SirDigby My chunks don't load anymore. Anyone know why
18:38 PilzAdam SirDigby, can you give a bit more info?
18:38 SirDigby Sure
18:38 SirDigby When i start a game the only textures are my 1s person
18:39 SirDigby Last night I was on a server and the chunks didn't load for 3mins or more
18:39 SirDigby Wait hold on
18:39 SirDigby Oh ok
18:40 qwebirc59148 the sever work :)
18:40 SirDigby Well I was on minerealms server last night
18:41 qwebirc59148 sometime i can't connect to server , he say "Too many users.", it's normal ?
18:41 SirDigby And I told everyone about that and everyone said it was my computer
18:41 Peacock > max users
18:42 qwebirc59148 what the max user number ?
18:43 SirDigby Ok I figured out what was going on and why my chunks didn't load
18:43 SirDigby I was on minerealms last night and everyone told me it was my slow computer
18:44 SirDigby But in reality minerealms server is ran on a potato
18:45 Peacock max user is whatever the server sets it to
18:45 SirDigby So 20 or less
18:45 Calinou minerealms does lag, like most servers, due t o bugs
18:45 xming when trying to craft a chest I get "unknown item" :/ why is that?
18:46 SirDigby becuase most people run servers off a raspberrypi.
18:46 Peacock theres no such things as bugs in opensource if the worksforme flag is set :P
18:46 PilzAdam xiong, can you give some more info?
18:46 SirDigby minerealms is the only server that does lag for me.
18:46 xming such as?
18:46 xming using 0.4.8 git master
18:47 PilzAdam xiong, singleplayer or server? what game do you run? what mods do you have installed?
18:47 xming and mine-test game git master too
18:47 xming server, and only farming plus as extra mod
18:49 SirDigby Not only is minerealms the most laggy server right now they have to restart it all the time because they are using a commodore 64 for a server
18:49 xming nice achievement on c64
18:49 SirDigby And i think its connect to 48k dail-up
18:50 SirDigby powered by a potato
18:50 xming that's way too fast for a c64 to handle
18:50 SirDigby See the problem?
18:50 xming PilzAdam: any more info you need?
18:51 PilzAdam thats strange
18:52 xming a chest with lock works
18:52 xming but not a normal chest
18:56 xming hmm I need a chest :/
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18:58 kaeza xming, open games/minetest_game/mods/default/crafting.lua and search for "default:chest"
18:59 kaeza should be around line 275
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19:03 xming yes it's there and the receipe looks good too
19:08 kaeza it's working OK here; latest git of everything
19:08 kaeza you sure you don't have any other mods installed?
19:08 xming just farming plus and player texture
19:09 xming animal pack is installed but not enabled
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19:09 kaeza just in case, which recipe are you trying?
19:10 xming like a locked chest w/o the steel
19:10 xming :D
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19:15 xming and anyone familiar with OSX builds?
19:18 proller SirDigby, if you want host server for 5+ peoples - use freeminer
19:21 ShadowNinja If you happen to have a lot of memory and CPU.
19:29 ShadowNinja kaeza: IMO negative FOV values should be floating point -0 to -1.
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20:09 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=123456#p123456
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20:11 Calinou thexyz is working on porting freeminer (a fork of Minetest) to Android already...
20:12 thexyz I plan to finish it after enet + kv is merged to FM so no MT compatibility most likely
20:12 proller prestotron55, why you not ins school?
20:12 Calinou kv?
20:12 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:12 Calinou proller, it's sunday, and holidays in many places.
20:12 Calinou also, school time is over in many places
20:13 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:13 Peacock lol
20:13 Peacock sunday, why arent you all in church praying to jeebus?
20:13 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:14 Calinou we pray to Minetest to not lag!
20:14 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:14 kaeza you could get more people interested if you provide working code
20:14 thexyz prestotron55: that's fine of course
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20:15 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:15 proller Calinou, he must be in school right now
20:15 kaeza ...
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20:15 kaeza ^fake?
20:16 sfan5| Meo
20:16 sfan5| meow*
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20:16 Peacock Mao
20:17 sfan5| prestotron55: why are you lying again?
20:17 proller i'm now in computer class
20:17 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:17 sfan5| Yes
20:17 Peacock *laying, he wants to know if you're getting some
20:17 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:17 kaeza ShadowNinja, I ain't touching anything for now, but maybe that's a good idea
20:18 Calinou prestotron55, thexyz explained the state of his android fork
20:18 Calinou also, if you want to help, do it for real, or do nothing
20:18 sfan5| You a
20:18 Calinou he's probably more knowledgable at C++ than you...
20:18 proller more than 0
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20:18 kaeza kids, pls
20:18 sfan5| Prestotron55: You are clearly lying
20:18 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:19 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:19 Peacock lols
20:19 sfan5| Prestotron55: about having graduated
20:20 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:20 Peacock well its pretty hard to prove or disprove anything online
20:20 thexyz sfan5|: you are not logged in
20:20 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:21 kaeza Peacock, I'm a dog ⌐■_■
20:21 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:21 sfan5| Prestotron55: you tell me to think more? Good joke
20:21 Peacock im a handicapped black lesbian woman
20:21 Calinou sfan5| is not identified
20:21 Peacock thats like 3 minorities rolled into one
20:21 Peacock *4
20:21 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:22 sfan5| was kicked by PilzAdam: sfan5|
20:22 kaeza :|
20:22 Peacock was that the real sfan?
20:23 PilzAdam if its really sfan5 then he can just rejoin
20:23 sfan5 PilzAdam: could you please unban me?
20:23 kaeza >rejoin >ban
20:23 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:23 sfan5 !op
20:23 PilzAdam sfan5, arent there exceptions for all ops?
20:23 Peacock its like the twilight zone in here
20:23 Peacock or the toilet zone depending how the conversations go
20:23 sfan5 PilzAdam: yes
20:23 sfan5 !deop
20:24 Calinou why didn't you identify?
20:24 sfan5 I did
20:24 Calinou :/
20:24 PilzAdam oh, you are identified now
20:24 Calinou yes
20:24 PilzAdam sry
20:24 sfan5 but then I was banned
20:24 sfan5 it isn't easy to type on a small phone your know?
20:25 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:25 Calinou use a way to auto-identify :P
20:25 thexyz sfan5: lol u got trolled
20:25 thexyz or rather PilzAdam got trolled
20:26 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:26 thexyz yes
20:26 Calinou https://github.com/freeminer/freeminer
20:26 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:26 Calinou https://github.com/freeminer/default
20:26 Calinou engine + game
20:27 prestotron55 [deleted]
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20:29 proller it will cost 50 for you
20:29 Calinou it'll probably be free
20:30 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:30 proller for kids under 15 and prestotron55 - only 50$
20:30 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:31 proller read google play licanse
20:31 Calinou you need to pay to upload an app to Google Play
20:31 proller it contain something like "not for stupid kids",  "not for noob"
20:31 Calinou but, you can use an app without uploading it to Google Play
20:32 Calinou people can download .apk's and use them, but they have to enable "Unknown Sources" first :)
20:32 Calinou there are also alternative app stores available, like F-Droid
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20:34 sfan5[iPod] >get free games
20:34 sfan5[iPod] thats probably illegal
20:35 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:36 Calinou you do need to pay to put an app on Google Play, even a free one...
20:37 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:37 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:39 Calinou you can't
20:39 Calinou (hopefully)
20:39 Calinou if everyone could edit a git repo, it'd usually be a complete mess
20:39 PilzAdam git commit -m "Add ponies"
20:39 prestotron55 [deleted]
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20:40 kaeza git rm -r *; git push -f
20:41 kaeza or just git init :P
20:41 * kaeza goes for some more coffee
20:41 Calinou PilzAdam, today I played on a Xonotic server where everypony was a pony :3
20:42 * sfan5[iPod] hands kaeza a kitten
20:42 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:42 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:42 PilzAdam \o/
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20:44 Jordach thank fuck for that
20:44 sfan5[iPod] \o/
20:45 Peacock he ain't gone t ill the quit message appears:P
20:46 thexyz OR THE KICK ONE
20:46 Jordach ^ shitposter
20:47 Jordach i've simply been quiet because i've found stuff to do :)
20:47 kaeza or ping timeout...
20:48 kaeza eh whatever
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20:48 PilzAdam thx to the holy ping
20:48 Jordach ALL HAIL THE PING TIMEOUT
20:48 Peacock shitposting: http://www.lolbrary.com/comment-c​ontent/873/shit-poster-294873.jpg
20:48 kaeza CAPSLOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
20:49 Peacock i dont understand, use more capslock
20:49 proller we win.
20:50 kaeza inb4 full width unicode
20:50 sfan5[iPod] lol
20:52 thexyz /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ WON’T YOU BECOME A MAGICAL GIRL?
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20:59 thexyz sfan5: how're you enjoying it? http://i.imgur.com/FK0kckM.jpg
21:01 sfan5[iPod] thexyz: I'm already done enjoying
21:02 sfan5[iPod] waitt..  that scene is from is2 not IS
21:02 thexyz great, time to watch some quality show then
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21:23 xming okay I found the issue with my OSX build, osx GUI needs a minimal cocoa skeleton and placed in an app, executing directly w/o app bundle it will not have keyboard inputs and other bugs :/
21:24 xming building it as a X app might be easier
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21:25 Jordach it appears apple have shit on your standards, do you wish to destroy your Mac?
21:25 sfan5[iPod] ??
21:26 Jordach [21:23:16] <xming> okay I found the issue with my OSX build, osx GUI needs a minimal cocoa skeleton and placed in an app, executing directly w/o app bundle it will not have keyboard inputs and other bugs :/
21:26 Jordach [21:24:04] <xming> building it as a X app might be easier
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21:26 sfan5[iPod] that is not really shitty on standards, it's just having different standards
21:27 sfan5[iPod] s/shitty/shitting/
21:27 Jordach sfan5[iPod], see their idea of the zip format
21:29 xming going to build irrlicht with X and we'll see
21:29 xming Life is a lot easier with Linux
21:30 Calinou it really is!
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21:36 Jordach that means you, yano :P
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21:48 thexyz idea: "manpages" mod
21:48 Jordach +1
21:48 Peacock and womanpages for the ladies
21:49 Jordach you really are the cynical drunk at every pub
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21:49 Peacock im not drunk yet
21:49 Peacock :P
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21:50 Peacock haven't started yet, but it is getting colder outside
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21:51 thexyz right
21:51 thexyz we need someone to mute some eh people this year
21:51 Peacock 2 snowstorms in a row, then yesterday everything started melting, and now its back to ballbustin' cold
21:51 thexyz during the celebration!
21:52 thexyz so it won't be like the last year with drunk ops and shit
21:52 Peacock which of the ops got drunk last year? lol
21:52 * VanessaE hides
21:53 Peacock lol
21:54 Peacock maybe we could just open up a #minetest-party channel for the drunk people this year lol
21:55 Peacock drunk or high since MJ is being legalized in more and more places
21:56 Peacock Uruguay being the last i read about
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21:58 Enke I'm too young to drink, so nobody has to worry about me!
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21:59 PilzAdam Enke, how do you live then?
21:59 Enke by breating
21:59 Enke *breathing
21:59 thexyz a default game server without any description gets 47 players online
21:59 Peacock legal age has never been a factor for most teens lol
22:00 thexyz in less than 2 hours
22:00 Enke Well, as many people will tell you, I'm not normal.
22:01 Peacock most people on IRC aren't lol
22:02 Enke Yeah.
22:02 * Enke is afk
22:04 * Enke is back
22:05 ShadowNinja Enke: Please don't use away CTCP ACTIONs.  Use /away.
22:05 Enke alrighty
22:05 Peacock CCCP actions?
22:06 Peacock Czechoslovakia here we come!
22:06 Peacock :P
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22:06 john_minetest Союз Советских Социалистических Республик Sojus Sowetskich Sozialistitscheskich Respublik
22:07 john_minetest It means United Sjovet Socialistic Republic.
22:07 Peacock the first episode of Sliders features that :P
22:07 Enke Okayyyyy?
22:07 Peacock it was totally over the top, a dozen security personel for every citizen lol
22:08 thexyz finally Minetest is popular!
22:08 thexyz you host a server and just an hour or so later there are 40 players online
22:08 thexyz aren't you all happy now?
22:08 Peacock *droid
22:08 Peacock though what happens when/if the app gets pulled, wont those numbers go down again?
22:09 Enke which server?
22:09 Enke I think the reason is because of Buildcraft.
22:09 Peacock thats what i gathered from the # dls
22:09 thexyz check http://servers.minetest.net/
22:10 Enke All I know is, before Buildcraft, there were not that many people on ShadowServer, now we hit the 10 mark quite often.
22:11 Enke And usually they are new people with no clue as to whats going on.
22:11 thexyz indeed
22:11 thexyz when buildcraft gets pulled there will be a lot of butthurt that's for sure
22:12 Peacock assuming the guy doesn't repost under a different name and company, wasn't the first version a different company?
22:12 ShadowNinja Peacock: CTCP, Client-To-Client-Protocol.
22:12 Peacock i know shadow :P was poking fun
22:13 Enke thexyz: If  Buildcraft gets pulled.
22:13 thexyz well, there are two options, either it gets pulled or they publish the sources
22:14 pitriss Peacock: czechoslovalia is not exist anymore:D
22:14 ShadowNinja BuildCraft is unusable on my nexus 7 2012.  And it has a fairly good CPU, GPU, and RAM.
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22:14 Enke I'd prefer they get pulled. Most people using Buildcraft simply came over looking for a carbon-copy of Minecraft PE.
22:14 VanessaE too slow to be playable on my little Xelio tablet also even with the Nostalgia game.
22:15 Peacock well 3 options, it's not 100% garanteed google will comply
22:15 Peacock especially if that bundled adware is google's ads, with their DL #s
22:15 ShadowNinja thexyz: They have published the sources, although they just did git init && git commit -am "BuildCraft" && git push.
22:15 Jordach i get about 20 fps in buildcraft
22:15 thexyz well, it's not Buildcraft's fail it's slow
22:15 VanessaE (but afaik that tab hasn't got the best GPU in the world either)
22:16 Jordach on a shitty chinese tablet
22:16 thexyz ShadowNinja: did you check it?
22:16 Sokomine hi :-)
22:16 ShadowNinja thexyz: IIRC you ran a diff on it.
22:16 Peacock is there any tech that isn't made in china or taiwan? lol
22:16 Sokomine anyone knowing by any chance how to handle doubleclicks on a textlist in a formspec?
22:16 thexyz ShadowNinja: right, and it doesn't look like the source they use at all
22:17 Peacock though they'll still argue to google they complied
22:17 ShadowNinja thexyz: What was missing specifically?
22:17 Peacock so the next step is what... how do you prove what they posted isn't what they use?
22:17 ShadowNinja It looked like it would compile and run.
22:17 Enke Peacock: How do you define technology. By strictly technical definition, technology is applied science. If I make a stick in my backyard into a lever, I've made technology.
22:18 Peacock enke tech as in computers, not turn of the century washing machines :P
22:18 Enke Just checkin'.
22:18 Peacock well, turn of the last century lol
22:18 ShadowNinja Although what I read didn't look android-specific.
22:18 Enke "Levers handmade in the USA"
22:19 thexyz ShadowNinja: it didn't compile
22:19 thexyz and it doesn't now
22:19 thexyz and the source is 2 month old, according to git history
22:19 thexyz and there seems to be nothing useful
22:19 thexyz like touch input
22:20 Peacock wouldn't that stuff be in the frontend?
22:20 Sokomine what kind of hardware does buildcraft need anyway?
22:20 ShadowNinja They didn't release the Java, maybe that handles all of that.
22:21 Jordach ShadowNinja, i'd assume correctly on that
22:21 Peacock ^ what im guessing
22:21 Jordach mrtux managed to crack the paid version, you might want to ask him
22:21 Jordach (i have a copy of said apk)
22:21 Enke The whole Buildcraft thing is silly to me. Why do we even need a android/ios version of everything?
22:21 thexyz it's easy to decompile it and verify that it doesn't
22:21 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Pretty good hardware, I have a tegra3 GPU on my device, it manages ~30 FPS.
22:21 thexyz moreover, you probably missed the line where I said their source doesn't compile
22:22 Jordach just remember, they've nicked GPLv2 code :)
22:22 Peacock well if the missing stuff's in the frontend, then its lgpl compliant, cracking is s till illegal though jordach
22:22 Jordach Peacock, not in the matter of legality
22:22 thexyz but hey, it's fine since that's what we wanted when we switched to LGPL, right?
22:22 ShadowNinja thexyz: I saw that.
22:22 Peacock well im kinda curious why you didn't stick to GPL if this sortof thing was going to be upsetting
22:23 thexyz celeron55 wanted something like that to happen
22:23 thexyz if my memory serves me right, of course
22:23 Jordach he did
22:23 Peacock so why's he filing DMCAs now lol
22:24 ShadowNinja DCMA.
22:24 Jordach VanessaE's tablet output had SuperTuxCart in it (which is GPLv2)
22:24 VanessaE bits and pieces thereof, yeah
22:24 Jordach so it is truly illegal :)
22:24 thexyz because they violated LGPL
22:25 Jordach and GPLv2 too.
22:25 Sokomine shadowninja: hm. i didn't buy my phone with a fast processor. i'm not even sure what's in it (some obscure cheap dualcore iirc); guess that won't be enough
22:26 Sokomine enke: i think it would be great to explore minetest worlds with a phone. with the sensors beeing used to navigate....and the player running all the time automaticly, that might be a nice way to explore worlds
22:26 Enke Possibly. Doesn't strike my fancy, though.
22:26 thexyz "something like this" implies "legal"
22:26 Sokomine but for building/playing, there's probably not much point to it. over longer time, it would be too inconvenient to control such a device
22:27 thexyz Sokomine: did you even try?
22:27 thexyz say, Minecraft PE
22:27 thexyz or some clone of it
22:27 Jordach (btw, buildcraft is reaching 113 of Top Free Most Grossing app)
22:28 EvergreenTree that is stupid
22:28 Sokomine thexyz: can't try buildcraft. i disabled the market (along with the google account) on the better phone. got annoyed after google did spy on my wlan pw
22:29 Sokomine thexyz: i tried minecraft pe on it, yes. that did run. it wasn't particulary practical to control
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22:30 Enke Well, that was strange...
22:30 Peacock well good luck getting google to cooperate
22:30 Peacock i thought it was kinda weird they asked for details about the lgpl lol
22:31 ShadowNinja Sokomine: My device scores 13582 in anTuTu, and got something above 5000 in quadrant.
22:31 Jordach ShadowNinja, mine is 11000 (anTuTu)
22:31 thexyz Peacock: they probably wanted to verify if that's not some automatic email from me
22:32 * ShadowNinja wins :-)
22:32 Enke Hello, we're google, and we've never heard of the LGPL.
22:33 Peacock one easy thing you could do is include some useragent string like browsers do so you can tell from what client people are connecting from, then server owners could block any of the clients
22:33 kaeza Peacock, and like browsers do, somebody will change the useragent to match the server
22:34 VanessaE Peacock: been there, asked for that, got rejected.
22:34 thexyz Peacock: muh backwards compatibility
22:34 VanessaE because as kaeza said.
22:34 Peacock what if you kept changing it on each new version?
22:34 Jordach let's merge in eNet to master: android doesn't support eNet afaik
22:34 thexyz the thing is
22:34 thexyz you can't differ buildcraft from old minetest client
22:35 john_minetest Let's just make 0.4.9 now and then merge enet and release 0.5.0.
22:35 VanessaE we could do that
22:35 thexyz and you won't be able to no matter what you do
22:35 Peacock no but, if the new minetest client transmitted additional info, then you could tell
22:35 kaeza Peacock, this will cause older client versions to stop woking, and they will just change useragent again and again
22:35 thexyz john_minetest: nice joke right here
22:35 thexyz we've decided to go with tcp + udp, remember
22:35 thexyz Peacock: no, you still won't be able to
22:35 VanessaE wait, what?
22:35 thexyz because old clients
22:35 thexyz because compatibility
22:36 Peacock so there's really no way to differentiate the clients? just protocol #s
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22:37 VanessaE john_minetest: make 0.4.9 when sspier figures out these last couple of glitches in the existing udp code that he's been arguing with
22:37 VanessaE sapier*
22:37 sapier hello vanessae
22:37 VanessaE that'd be a good time to release.
22:37 VanessaE oh hey,.
22:37 VanessaE didn't know you were around.
22:37 Peacock sapier's been arguing with sapier? maybe we should... find a doctor :P
22:37 VanessaE anyway, that's still backward compat with old servers+clients (or will be)
22:38 VanessaE so once that works 100%, that's a good excuse to push 0.4.9 + some other stuff (say VBO, sun/moon textures, maybe those shader things RBA wanted to, idk what else)
22:38 Enke Oh, I argue with myself all the time!
22:39 thexyz top 4 servers are all hosted by russians
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22:42 qwebirc19071 Hello
22:52 john_minetest Rocket launches from inflatable launchpads could be really cool. An experience for the whole family. Like this: http://i.imgur.com/XI14MC2.png
22:55 Enke Right before the gunpowder sears you swimsuit off...
23:00 thexyz what happens when google hates you https://www.quantcast.com/rapge​nius.com?country=GLOBAL&amp;1=1
23:07 john_minetest Or maybe rocket launches like that: http://i.imgur.com/aM4QUj4.png
23:08 thexyz safety first!
23:10 john_minetest I should get paid for doing those damn good images.
23:11 thexyz quality images indeed
23:20 specing 5 mese blocks 0.o
23:22 specing wow, even more mese
23:22 specing Im gonna strip-mine this floatisland
23:22 specing proller: did you fix the gate yet?
23:25 specing the freeminer client does feel smoother
23:25 specing but... is that fog?!
23:25 Peacock smooth as a baby's bottom
23:27 john_minetest thexyz: The images are low-quality while the soyuz image is high quality
23:27 john_minetest http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia​/commons/4/47/Soyuz_TMA-2_launch.jpg
23:28 specing It works so much better without shaders
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23:35 specing proller: I found unknown objects...
23:44 specing freeminer people: how do I disable this damn fog?
23:45 Jordach F3
23:45 Jordach afaik
23:46 specing YAY
23:46 * specing hugs Jordach
23:47 Jordach ...I'm useful?!?
23:47 specing yes
23:51 Peacock as a beer holder :P
23:53 Peacock damn, i cant find the related simpsons image
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