Time Nick Message 00:45 Megaf 1m36 seconds, is this a good time to compile the master branch? 00:45 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/69432/ 00:46 Megaf wow, new shaders 00:59 Megaf Im a good mood, and Minetest have to do to keep me in a good mood is not crash 02:58 Dogzill131 how to you charge a battery box? 02:58 Dogzill131 Also, whats the recipe to make a electric furnace? 03:05 ShadowNinja Dogzill131: Connect a power source, switching station, and battery box with cables. 03:06 Dogzill131 ok, thanks 03:07 ShadowNinja Dogzill131: As for the recipe: https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/master/technic/machines/LV/electric_furnace.lua 03:07 Dogzill131 thanks again :) 03:08 RavonTUS Greetings, I have a wierd request for help...MT crashes but the error mess is cut off mobf.lua: 505: attempt ???? So, I can't troubleshoot. 03:08 RavonTUS Any suggestions for tweaking the screen in Ubuntu or MT to see the message?? 03:11 Enke If what I know is correct, you can find a full debug.txt in the bin folder. 03:17 RavonTUS ok I'll look. 03:20 ShadowNinja RavonTUS: You can also check the terminal output. 03:20 ShadowNinja If you're using windows I believe one is spawned automatically. 03:22 RavonTUS Didn't see it in bin. :( 03:22 stormchaser3000 hi 03:22 stormchaser3000 didn't see what in bin 03:22 stormchaser3000 ? 03:23 RavonTUS looking for a debug log, if one exist. 03:24 ShadowNinja RavonTUS: It will be in the working directory, which is wherever you started it from. 03:25 stormchaser3000 look in .minetest 03:25 stormchaser3000 in your homefolder 03:26 stormchaser3000 (it is where mine is) 03:26 stormchaser3000 but did you do a run in place build? 03:27 RavonTUS agh!!!! Sitting right in front of me. Thanks Stormchaser. 03:27 stormchaser3000 no problem 03:30 stormchaser3000 hi OldCoder 03:31 OldCoder hi 03:36 RavonTUS Should my debug log be filling up with [ 13.930000]MOBF: error calculation consumed time: 13930 --> 13930 03:37 OldCoder probably not 03:37 RavonTUS :) 03:40 stormchaser3000 lol 03:49 RavonTUS Thanks for the help, night all. 03:49 Enke well, optimally, your debug should have no errors... 03:49 RavonTUS yeah, I should have word that better. :) 03:52 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/x49FZXe.png gg youtube 04:19 NakedFury any news on MT development? 04:20 NekoGloop Development? 04:20 NakedFury anything new 04:22 NekoGloop What's development? 04:42 Sokomine ups! found a nyan cat in my singleplayer world 04:55 hoodedice VanessaE 04:56 VanessaE hi 04:57 hoodedice Do you have a comprehensive list of all missing mods? 04:57 hoodedice I think I'll open up a forum thread for all rphaned mods 04:57 hoodedice *orphaned 05:00 Sokomine how do you define if a mod is oprhaned? 05:00 NakedFury abandoned 05:01 hoodedice A. The developer has quit premanently. And has voiced so 05:01 hoodedice Ex: Cornernote, DanD 05:02 hoodedice B. The developer has just left the site, leaving his mods to rot. 05:02 hoodedice Ex: THIS: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5185 05:03 Sokomine hmm. a) might be detectable to a degree. b is far more difficult..... 05:03 hoodedice If download links are down, we can count it as being orphaned/.abandoned 05:04 hoodedice C. The developer does not want to develop his mods further, and has voiced so. 05:04 hoodedice Ex: None XD 05:04 NakedFury for B we could say a 6 to 1 year period 05:04 Sokomine ah. yes. hopefully someone has a copy stored for such cases 05:04 hoodedice I would think that even a 6 month period would suffice 05:05 Sokomine not all mods really need further development. it depends on the mod...sometimes they're already fine enough 05:05 hoodedice Indeed. 05:05 hoodedice But some examples of those that may need further dev may be Cars and RealTest Revamped 05:06 hoodedice Paramat adopted Cars though 05:07 Sokomine perhaps it might be a good idea to supply downloadable versions attached to the first posting for all mods 05:07 hoodedice ? 05:07 Sokomine that would be especially fine for those hosted on not-working platforms (such as mediafire) 05:08 Sokomine vanessa: hm, did you change the textures of the leaves in rt? i somehow don't manage to get them to display normal again :-( 05:08 hoodedice mediafire: Not working? 05:09 hoodedice Should also add somewhere that certain sites like omdlr should not be used 05:10 NakedFury why? 05:10 VanessaE Sokomine: I did. you have to trim the padding off the top and bottom of all the leaves images 05:10 VanessaE they're sized to be displayed with the plantlike draw type. 05:10 hoodedice NakedFury: ompdlr is down 05:10 hoodedice Anddamn unreliable 05:11 hoodedice I think people should use bigger hosting sites like Google Drive, or Ubuntu One 05:11 hoodedice Or maybe Wuzzy 05:12 Sokomine mediafire seems to require javascript -> does not work 05:12 hoodedice Sorry, I meany *Wuala 05:13 hoodedice JS? Oh Damn you Stallman XD 05:13 hoodedice I still don't get what is so wrong with JS? 05:13 Sokomine what about the forum hosting? if it's attached directly to the posting the mod can be downloaded at the same time (and with the same reliability) as the posting describing the mod and attracting the player 05:13 Sokomine most mods are pretty small 05:14 Sokomine hoodedice: downloading a file just doesn't require javascript. it can be done excellent without (unless the site in question wants to do questionable things which do need javascript) 05:14 hoodedice And that's why I don't get why they don't use GitHub at all! 05:15 Sokomine it would be ok in situations where js is required for a functionality that cannot be done otherwise 05:15 Sokomine perhaps some modders don't know how to use github or don't have the time to learn it 05:15 hoodedice So everyone turns off JS when downloading stuff? 05:15 Sokomine the forum attachment function is excellent for these cases 05:15 Sokomine no, wrong. js gets turned on on rare occasions 05:16 hoodedice Hmm, forum attachment gets one over mmdb 05:16 hoodedice Oh boy, you evaders! 05:17 Sokomine mmdb is also very fine. both ought to be supported :-) plus a github repro. the easiest for modders might be to just use the forum attachment 05:19 hoodedice If the NSA really knew what was in my Google Drive, they would've killed me by now! XD 05:23 hoodedice Sokomine: Didya check out my handstand mod? 05:23 Sokomine most likely they don't care. they'll take a closer look if you become more important i guess. the real problem with the nsa and co is more complex 05:24 hoodedice They gave me an F1 visa. 05:25 hoodedice Maybe they'll get me at the airport lol 05:31 hoodedice Later 05:35 VanessaE omg, they got him! 05:35 VanessaE :D 05:36 Sokomine hope we got a backup somewhere :-) 06:24 xiong What do grass and jungle grass need to spread? Water? No neighbors within what radius? Special conditions? 06:30 VanessaE afaik the grasses don't spread. 06:30 VanessaE or do they? I forget. 07:02 reactor Morning. 07:02 reactor Anyone using vim on a regular basis, here? 07:02 reactor Why doesn't it want to save to read-only files all of the sudden? 07:03 reactor (I own the files) 07:03 reactor nvi saves to them just as fine, with the ":w!" 07:07 VanessaE vi*? evil. 07:13 reactor You know what, I do not like reaching for the navigation keys with my pinkies. 07:16 * VanessaE shrugs 07:17 VanessaE the way I figure it, if I wanted a command line, I wouldn't have launched an editor :P 07:18 reactor ? 07:18 reactor I don't use GUI editors. 07:18 VanessaE ^^^ why I don't like vi (and hence use nano or gedit, as appropriate to the situation) 07:19 reactor Mkay. 07:20 VanessaE though I find myself missing jpico sometimes :) 07:21 reactor You're trolling, right? 07:21 VanessaE nope. 07:22 VanessaE I cut my teeth on pico. 07:22 VanessaE jpico (joe with pico/nano-esque key bindings) later, then nano, then finally to gui-based apps when I got tired of doing everything in the terminal. 08:08 VanessaE bbl 08:51 hoodedice So 08:51 hoodedice Github doesn't include the WTFPL license 09:03 hoodedice Hmm, how do I upload stuff to GItHub again? 09:18 hoodedice Bash me, but I like GithHub for windows 09:30 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Ninja Day! :-D 09:31 hoodedice Yo 09:32 hoodedice Damn I didn't know that! 09:41 JamesTait hoodedice, I guess they slipped it by us all, unnoticed. ;) 09:41 hoodedice XD 09:54 reactor Hello everybrony. 09:55 reactor But not every human is a pony inside. 09:55 reactor Only bronies are a pony inside. 09:55 reactor Okay? 10:01 reactor I have been inside. 10:01 reactor I have seen it. 10:03 reactor Megaf: you said you were not coming back. 10:04 Megaf I will always come back when something works 10:04 Megaf minetest is working now 10:04 Megaf well, not the new shaders 10:05 hoodedice ... 10:05 Megaf john_minetest, when I enable the new shaders of master branch, everything turns dark 10:05 Megaf really dark 10:05 hoodedice intel? 10:05 hoodedice intel. 10:05 Megaf the sky is blue and everything else is dark 10:06 hoodedice intel indeed 10:06 Megaf nope, AMD Radeon HD 4200, with open source radon driver 10:06 Megaf brb 10:20 specing yestersday I got trapped in the protector rock user interface 10:21 specing stuck again 10:21 specing how do I escape it? 10:21 specing esc doesen't work :/ 10:21 reactor Megaf: you said you weren't coming back eh. 10:21 reactor That's door-slamming. 10:22 specing Megaf: get rid of that radeon and get an nvidia 10:22 specing or intel 10:22 specing just not ... radeon blegh 10:23 specing I could say that for radeon 10:23 reactor NVIDIA works under FBSD. 10:23 reactor Does Radeon work? 10:23 specing nvidia always worked for me 10:24 specing Intel is nice, they have official opensource drivers 10:24 specing Now 10:24 reactor Does Intel do 3D graphics? 10:24 specing How do I escape the protector UI? 10:24 specing reactor: yes 10:24 specing reactor: I played lincity the other day on it 10:24 reactor Good. 10:24 specing will do the same with minetest once I start that machine again 10:24 specing on HD2500 10:25 reactor So, does Radeon work on BSD? 10:25 hoodedice (Intel doesn't even work on windows) 10:25 hoodedice If I met you in real life, I would have strangled you 10:26 reactor hoodedice: sadist? 10:26 hoodedice No, terrorist 10:26 hoodedice Because beard 10:26 * reactor calls the police 10:26 * hoodedice blows himself up 10:27 hoodedice FOR SCIENCE! 10:27 hoodedice I still have a Wolfdale 10:27 * reactor pulls out glass shards out of self. Ouch! 10:27 * john_minetest cleans up 40 acres of glass 10:28 hoodedice Where wolfdale = Core 2 Duo 10:30 hoodedice http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/chipsets/mainstream-chipsets/g41-express-chipset.html 10:33 reactor Hey, do not call me that, john_minetest. 10:33 reactor You're a hipster, alright. Do not call me one. 10:35 hoodedice #IMADEAHASHTAGLONGERTHANYOURSSOSHUTTHEFUDGECAKEUPBUTIDOLIKEFUDGECAKESHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 10:37 hoodedice Look at what my beast can run! 10:37 hoodedice Microsoft DirectX* 10 10:37 reactor Windows. 10:37 reactor :( 10:37 hoodedice Shader Model* 4.0 10:37 hoodedice and OpenGL* 2.0. 10:37 hoodedice Beat THAT! 10:38 hoodedice capable of "full 1080p high-definition video playback, including Blu-ray disc movies",[14][21] 10:38 hoodedice [Of course it's from wikipedia] 10:38 reactor Who needs those crazy resolutions. 10:38 reactor Movies in 640x480 are enough. 10:38 hoodedice I watch em @720p 10:38 reactor HIgher res is not worth the disk overhead. 10:38 hoodedice nice on the eyes and enogh detail 10:39 reactor 720p is quite sufficient, yes. 10:39 reactor But 1080p is crazy. 10:39 reactor Who needs to see every dust particle. 10:39 hoodedice john_minetest: Oh, yeah? Beat this: #Lopado­­temacho­­selacho­­galeo­­kranio­­leipsano­­drim­­hypo­­trimmato­­silphio­­parao­­melito­­katakechy­­meno­­kichl­­epi­­kossypho­­phatto­­perister­­alektryon­­opte­­kephallio­­kigklo­­peleio­­lagoio­­siraio­­baphe­­tragano­­pterygon 10:39 reactor Average adult eyes don't even provide enough resolution. 10:39 hoodedice Indeed. 10:39 hoodedice But I'll play BF4 if I can, in full reso 10:40 hoodedice (With a newer computer, of course) 10:40 reactor Beside video games and image editing, high resolutions are waste. 10:40 hoodedice Not always 10:40 reactor Who needs a huge screen if one could use bitmap fonts, for programming. 10:40 hoodedice I like to watch motor sports in 4K 10:41 hoodedice And touring shows 10:41 hoodedice With cliffs and rivulets, and... stuff 10:42 hoodedice john_minetest: (Don't get the sarcasm do you?) 10:42 hoodedice Movies are (usually) boring 10:42 hoodedice AWWW 10:42 hoodedice You said a bad word! 10:43 hoodedice Pray for repentence you faggotty sinner! 10:43 hoodedice HAAW! I said a bad word too! 10:43 hoodedice Look what you'd done! 10:44 hoodedice And faggot is English for brach ;) 10:45 hoodedice And Dick is also Richard 10:47 hoodedice You play pioneer? That game is as confusing as Dwarf Fortress 10:47 hoodedice No, less confusing 10:47 Exio4 reactor: 1080p is pretty l33t 10:50 hoodedice 1337 10:50 reactor Exio4: it's not. It's a waste of disk space and processing power. 10:52 Exio4 my gpu was 350 ARS and uses less than 35W, and i don't even get my cpu at 100% when playing a 1080p movie 10:52 hoodedice Whatever 10:52 Exio4 350 ARS, for a real price on your lands, / 10 = USDç 10:52 hoodedice It is a waste of screen space 10:52 Exio4 -ç 10:52 Exio4 hoodedice: what space? 10:53 hoodedice The black rectangles on the top and bottm 10:53 Exio4 wut. 10:53 hoodedice Of my AWESOME 4:3 screen 10:53 hoodedice XD 10:53 reactor 16:9 screens are inconvenient. 10:53 hoodedice Oh and people 10:53 hoodedice I released my first mod 10:53 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7890 10:53 Exio4 ah 10:54 hoodedice Indeed, You can't read code nicely on 'em 10:54 hoodedice In EA's Frostbit video there was this guy with the best screen ever! 10:54 Exio4 they have few pixels than a 4:3 screen at the same diagonal-size, tho 10:54 reactor I wish one could easily mount a 16:9 panel on its side. 10:55 reactor That would allow for seeing more program 10:55 reactor Less tedious scrolling to do. 10:55 hoodedice http://youtu.be/fBecEtNAavQ?t=3m25s 10:55 hoodedice 3:25 10:55 Exio4 you could 10:56 Exio4 just flip the screen with software and then flip it irl 10:56 hoodedice hmm, yes it is possible =) 10:56 hoodedice I'm so happy now! 10:57 reactor Exio4: I hope X11 supports that. 10:58 hoodedice Not. You didn't log in 10:58 hoodedice (Offtopic) 11:02 hoodedice I jinxed the IRC again! 11:02 reactor Pwned. 11:04 hoodedice ? 11:04 hoodedice What colour is default:brick? 11:05 hoodedice Hmm 11:05 hoodedice But that's what I really wanted 11:06 hoodedice Check the code on Github, the code's 'more recent' if you know what I mean 11:06 reactor ? 11:07 reactor What visuals? 11:11 hoodedice Hmm 11:11 hoodedice reactor: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7890 11:11 reactor Bad request. 11:11 hoodedice Does 255:0:4 look brick red (RGB)? 11:11 hoodedice Log in 11:12 hoodedice to the forums 11:12 reactor I have no account. 11:12 reactor 255 would be too bright, wouldn't it? 11:12 hoodedice Bad guy. 11:12 reactor You're making 1x1 textures? 11:12 hoodedice What would you say? 11:12 hoodedice N 11:12 reactor ?! 11:12 reactor Idk. 11:12 reactor Hmm. 11:12 reactor Care to see my texture pack? 11:12 hoodedice No. 1:1 11:12 hoodedice Sure 11:12 reactor A sec. 11:13 hoodedice Ya, 163 R is much better 11:14 reactor ftp://mike402.no-ip.biz/pub/minetest/Pripyat/screenshots-131201.tar.bz2 11:14 reactor ftp://mike402.no-ip.biz/pub/minetest/Pripyat/textures-131201.tar.bz2 11:16 hoodedice Nope. Not loading 11:16 reactor Oh. wait a sec. 11:16 reactor Use port 65421. 11:17 MinetestBot minetest.org:30015 is up (340ms) 11:18 hoodedice :65421 at the end of the URL? 11:19 reactor Sure. 11:19 reactor I forgot to write it. 11:19 reactor Hurry up: I've got to take the OS down for a while. 11:19 hoodedice Won't connect 11:20 hoodedice connection reset 11:20 reactor put :65421 right after the ".biz" 11:20 hoodedice w/e Later 11:21 hoodedice I did it. Firefox, Windows xp 11:21 hoodedice Oh, got it now 11:23 kaeza mornings 11:32 MrRip Hey folks. I try to get source code for server (or .rpm for Centos 6.3) 11:32 MrRip i will in a bit 11:33 MrRip error : different verssion 11:34 MrRip 0 47 here 11:36 Megaf I'm bacl 11:37 Megaf reactor, Intel does good 3D indeed 11:37 reactor MK. 11:37 Megaf but no high end 11:38 reactor I'm not playing CRYSIS on my machines. 11:38 reactor Not using graphics cards for calculations, yet. 11:39 reactor Is there a way to make CUDA compiler work with FBSD? 11:39 MrRip nah 0.4.8 have trouble on mai x64 box 11:40 MrRip where you got server version i didnt see on website 11:44 MrRip i need pure mintestserver to ron on dedicated server not X 11:44 MrRip no src .... 11:44 MrRip i know i use gentoo 11:45 MrRip im not afraid to compile but dont ghet source code 11:45 MrRip in gentoo repo is old version 11:45 MrRip hmm 11:45 MrRip let me see :D 11:46 reactor MrRip: with your skills, you should probably do better with FBSD. 11:46 reactor Gentoo is not worth it. 11:46 reactor Linux is a mess. 11:47 reactor I'm not familiar with Mac OS. 11:47 reactor Can't really tell. 11:47 reactor It's a certified UNIX, but it breaks some conventions. 11:47 reactor They probably had to bribe to committee. 11:47 MrRip i have i3 Mac 11:47 reactor s/to/the/ 11:48 MrRip but my wife is owner :)) 11:48 reactor Windows. 11:48 reactor I rest my case. 11:49 MrRip i love my dell i5 inspirion 3521 2 grafic cards 6 giga ram 1T hdd is lovley full of gentoo :) 11:49 MrRip and yes i play wine games Like RIFT :D 11:49 reactor ...is there Skype for UNIX? 11:49 MrRip yes 11:49 Megaf Actually people are installing linux on their macs because MacOS X sucks 11:49 MrRip y use skype 11:49 reactor I don't mind closed source. 11:49 Megaf john_minetest, indeed, I ran Debian 7.2 on my Macbook pro 11:50 Megaf run 11:50 MrRip emerge -pav skype :) 11:50 reactor ...as far as it doesn' spy on the rest of the system. 11:50 MrRip gentoo :) 11:50 reactor Linux is not worth using anymore. 11:50 reactor I think I'll be fine running it jailed. 11:50 Megaf john_minetest, I paid for Lion, for Moutain Lion, Maveriks came for free, I feel like all is the same shit 11:51 Megaf I'm much happier with Debian 11:51 Megaf Snow Leopard was cool too 11:51 Megaf but kinda outdated 11:52 specing Guys 11:53 specing http://cloud.github.com/downloads/Bad-Command/teleporter/recipe2.png 11:53 specing what is the centre element? 11:53 specing mese crystal would work? 11:54 specing k, thanks 11:54 specing I'll see 11:59 reactor Hmm. 11:59 reactor OldCoder: ! 12:00 reactor :( 12:06 reactor :( 12:18 MrRip muhahaha 12:18 MrRip Scanning dependencies of target lua [ 1%] Building C object src/lua/build/CMakeFiles/lua.dir/lapi.o [ 2%] Building C object src/lua/build/CMakeFiles/lua.dir/lauxlib.o 12:18 MrRip ... 12:18 MrRip im on the good way :) 12:19 MrRip ty john_minetest 12:20 reactor Dr. Evil? 12:21 MrRip pduh 12:21 MrRip [ 23%] Building CXX object src/CMakeFiles/minetestserver.dir/script/common/c_content.cpp.o In file included from /home/minetest/minetest/src/script/common/c_content.h:40, from /home/minetest/minetest/src/script/common/c_content.cpp:19: /home/minetest/minetest/src/util/string.h:166: error: reference to ‘s64’ is ambiguous 12:25 reactor rsiska: where's lsiska? 12:30 MrRip mintetest-dev is mute how can i comunicate there? 12:32 sfan5 hi everyone 12:32 kaeza hey sfan5 12:33 kaeza MrRip, get a real IRC client (e.g. hexchat) 12:33 MrRip i have XChat 12:33 MrRip ok i will join there 12:34 kaeza xchat works too 12:34 kaeza :< 12:37 reactor GUI is the last thing IRC would ever need. 12:37 MrRip well i have a real chat client now :) 12:44 MrRip kaeza: How can i comunicate in minetest-dev ? 12:47 kaeza MrRip, you already did :^P 12:49 kaeza MrRip, just be patient; it can take a bit until someone responds 12:49 MrRip i know :d 12:49 MrRip thank you i have all my days :) 12:49 MrRip to make this :) 12:50 kaeza you can leave your client open for the day, or if that's inconvenient you can chek up the chat logs later 12:50 kaeza +c 13:16 sfan5 I'm 3 metres away from the WiFi router and connection is unstable because of winds outside... hm 13:24 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 13:25 reactor EHLO 13:27 PilzAdam eh lol 13:55 reactor ? 13:55 reactor How should the wind disrupt radio reception? 13:58 OldCoder reactor, do not be :( Hello how are you 13:58 reactor Ehlo. 13:58 reactor I'm fine. 13:59 reactor I'm gonna model a small building this evening, probably. 13:59 reactor Can you upload the mode you made for my textures, so that I can use it here, too? 14:21 OldCoder reactor, What would you like? 14:21 OldCoder mode I made? 14:21 OldCoder I can explain what I did 14:21 OldCoder Hmm 14:21 OldCoder Wait 14:21 OldCoder I will make a ZIP for you in a few minutes 14:22 reactor I don't know if I can unpack zips here. 14:23 OldCoder Hm? What is OS> 14:23 OldCoder BSD? 14:23 OldCoder A tarball, then 14:23 OldCoder But should have unzip 14:24 reactor BSD. 14:24 reactor I prefer .tar.bz2 or .tar.xz 14:24 reactor .gz will do. 14:25 reactor Oh right. I do have unzip. 14:37 reactor OldCoder: put the file in my /incoming? 14:37 Megaf reactor, have you tested debian kfreebsd yet? 14:37 reactor I will not use debian unless I'm forced to. 14:37 Megaf its light and fast, and its bsd 14:38 reactor It's BSD with Linux userland. Keep it away from me. 14:38 Megaf is the kernel that matters 14:38 reactor No. 14:38 Megaf I tested years ago NexentaOS, it was OpenSolaris with Ubuntu userland 14:38 reactor The kernel is just one of the reasons I'm here. 14:38 Megaf it was cool too 14:39 reactor I really like the BSD userland. It's solid. 14:39 Megaf ok then 14:39 Megaf I rather use BSD user land too, but I prefer the Linux kernel 14:39 reactor Idk, I never liked Linux kernel. 14:39 Megaf more hardware friendly 14:39 reactor How come you like Linux userland so much? 14:39 reactor Oh. 14:39 reactor In particular, the way it handles USB is annoying. 14:40 reactor It would reconnect USB devices out of the blue. 14:40 Megaf more like a specific hardware problem 14:40 Megaf on my netbook / is on a usb flash drive 14:41 reactor I hearf FBSD boots just fine from flash. 14:42 OldCoder reactor, k 14:42 OldCoder reactor, link in PM with PW 14:43 OldCoder reactor, I think you are basically asking for the worldmods folder. Is this correct? 14:43 reactor ? 14:43 reactor Yes. 14:43 reactor oh 14:43 reactor a sec 14:49 hoodedice sfan5 14:55 sfan5 hm? 14:56 hoodedice New build: Problem 15:11 hoodedice ? 15:32 hoodedice Sup BlockMen 15:32 hoodedice sfan5: Thanks a lot. Testing your new build now 15:33 BlockMen hi hoodedice, nm 15:33 BlockMen how bout you 15:33 hoodedice Started my first MT project - a Texture pack =) 15:33 hoodedice (Actually a fork) 15:37 hoodedice sfan5: No can do. Newer build still has the same problem. I'm filing a bug on the GitHub page 16:06 George is anyone thinking of making a mod like a garage door mod 16:07 George do you guys know that the megaf server is down 16:10 Jordach i understand why my os logs out and crashes 16:10 Jordach the startup terminal fails to close 16:12 Calinou hi 16:12 Calinou Jordach, for a short instant, as of ubuntu 13.10 I can see "login for calinou:" a second or two before the login screen appears :P 16:12 Jordach Calinou, pressing prnt scrn shows it 16:12 Calinou I don't press anything 16:12 Jordach (the terminal attempts to overwrite x) 16:13 Jordach i seem to get these "black bars" 16:13 hoodedice *Ubuntu* 16:13 hoodedice Use Xubuntu, like a boss. 16:14 hoodedice Jordach, test this: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=120808#p120808 16:14 Jordach hoodedice, using linux now 16:14 hoodedice Ow 16:14 ShadowNinja X spawns before getty on my system. (And is therefore on TTY1) 16:14 Jordach well, xubuntu lts anyways 16:14 hoodedice Nah, Xubuntu alternate STSs 16:15 hoodedice 13.04 was better than LTS 16:15 hoodedice 13.10 was crap 16:15 hoodedice So was 12.10 16:16 reactor ? 16:16 kaeza I don't understand all this bitching about "was crap" 16:16 reactor Ubuntu :( 16:16 kaeza if you don't like something, update/change it 16:16 hoodedice Indeed. So I used the word "was" 16:17 hoodedice And so my USB drive (Thank you john_minetest) now has 13.04 in it 16:17 hoodedice Anyway, sup with 0.4.9 being 45% complete? 16:17 kaeza eh lol 16:18 kaeza [citation needed] 16:18 hoodedice citation:https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/milestones 16:18 kaeza "No due date" nuff said 16:19 hoodedice But. Teh bar? 16:19 kaeza plus 0.4.8 took what? more than half a year? 16:20 Calinou 18<26hoodedice> 13.10 was crap 16:20 Calinou 13.10 is great 16:20 Calinou 13.04 will soon be EOL, like 12.10 16:21 hoodedice *Windows* 16:21 hoodedice I DON'T NEED YOUR DRIVERS PROMPT DAMMIT! 16:21 Calinou windows XP will too :phoronix rolleyes: 16:21 hoodedice HP works out of the box on Xubuntu 16:21 hoodedice And they say we don't have hardware support 16:22 hoodedice Xp was good ;/ 16:22 hoodedice Thou wilt be missed friend 16:23 Jordach hello VanessaE 16:23 Jordach hoodedice, suck it, i have WORKING SHADERS 16:23 hoodedice Yo VanessaE 16:24 hoodedice MY SHADERS WORK IN XUBUNTU TOO! 16:24 Jordach :O 16:24 hoodedice (At least, some of em) 16:24 hoodedice XO 16:24 Jordach hoodedice, all of 'em work for me 16:24 Jordach i just don't use fancy leaves 16:24 hoodedice I didn't test em yet. No Ubuntu shaders build atm 16:24 hoodedice Jelly tress are AWESOME 16:25 Jordach (fun fact: shaders with fancy leaves off gives same performance without the shaders being enabled) 16:25 hoodedice *trees 16:25 harrison http://www.scienceworldreport.com/articles/11396/20131205/study-links-poor-sleep-to-mood-disturbance-in-obese-people.htm 16:25 hoodedice Jordach, that was for you XD 16:25 kaeza you need a study for that? O_o 16:25 Jordach hoodedice, just compile it yourself 16:26 hoodedice I'm lazy dammit 16:26 hoodedice kaeza: they have a study for almost anything nowadays 16:26 Jordach 7mins 30seconds is enough time 16:26 Jordach make -j3 on a pentium 4 will do that :D 16:27 hoodedice But all that sudo apt-get install 16:27 hoodedice *Yawn* 16:27 Jordach once it's done, it's done 16:27 hoodedice I even get bored downloaded sfan5's builds 16:27 * Jordach just sleeps no matter what 16:27 hoodedice Sup john_minetest 16:28 reactor Meh. 16:28 Jordach sfan5, it windy over at yours? 16:28 sfan5 yes 16:28 kaeza hoodedice, the good thing about cloning the repo and compiling yourself is it's easier to do updates 16:28 reactor Alternative costs of sleep are too big. 16:28 Calinou Xp was good ;/ 16:28 Calinou it never was, it was always insecure and ugly :P 16:28 hoodedice I liked XP 16:28 hoodedice I like 8 16:28 Calinou Jordach, I have working waving leaves/plants/water in freeminer :D 16:28 hoodedice I'm crazy 16:28 Jordach dun dun durr 16:28 Calinou 8 _is_ better than 7 16:29 hoodedice *High Five* 16:29 Jordach is being the stressed word 16:29 Jordach "is"* 16:29 Calinou *bro hoof* 16:29 * hoodedice high fives Calinou 16:29 Jordach btw, i have 3 MK3 Mining drills on vanessa's survival 16:30 Calinou wb john_minetest 16:30 Jordach john_minetest, VE-Survival ;) 16:30 * Calinou buys a linux kernel for john_minetest 16:30 Jordach ...you pay for your kernels 16:30 kaeza >buys 16:30 * Jordach pets Calinou 16:30 Jordach john_minetest, is it windy for you? 16:31 hoodedice *9000 16:31 Jordach because the wind won't topple me :D 16:31 Jordach it's worse here - a wind turbine was FLEXING AGAINST the wind 16:31 Jordach that won't be there by the morning 16:32 kaeza it's 30C here 16:32 kaeza :3 16:32 Jordach well fuck you and your warmth 16:32 * Jordach could do with that 16:33 hoodedice 15C in th morning 16:33 hoodedice =/ 16:35 hoodedice brb 16:36 Calinou 5°C here 16:39 Enke awesome. 16:39 Calinou hi Enke 16:39 Jordach yay 16:39 hoodedice Yo Enke 16:39 Jordach happy wheels is actually working 16:43 hoodedice I just googled it. 16:43 hoodedice I would be better off dead. 16:46 Enke hi guys 16:46 reactor ? 16:47 harrison if you are thinking about harming yourself and/or others, please don't 16:47 Enke I'm a little busy playing RCT3, so I'll be on and off. 16:47 hoodedice RCT3? 16:47 * hoodedice High Fives Enke 16:49 hoodedice Installed new Printer drivers. 16:49 hoodedice Out of Black ink 16:49 reactor Lol. Happy Wheels. 16:49 hoodedice *Awesomenes* 16:49 hoodedice CUPS is AWESOME! 16:50 hoodedice I don't know why people hate on it, but it was pretty kinky for me 16:50 reactor CUPS is shit. 16:50 hoodedice apple printer? 16:50 reactor Printers that don't work with LPD should die. 16:51 reactor PostScript is the language all printers should be able to use. 16:51 hoodedice Well, mine is HP too 16:51 reactor Mine is. 16:51 reactor And it's crap, and does not support PostScript. 16:51 hoodedice But CUPS is by Apple? Bummer. 16:51 reactor Instead, it uses some weird protocol no one uses. 16:52 hoodedice But my F2200 printed on Xubuntu better than on Windows 16:52 reactor Windows is unsupported. 16:53 reactor For its technical support is shit. 16:54 Calinou it is supported in here 16:54 Calinou john_minetest, don't hate stuff just because apple made it, it still is free software 16:55 reactor CUPS is crap not for being by Apple. 16:55 reactor It's crap fundamentally. 16:57 George come to megaf till it ends server and get a free flat 16:57 hoodedice Well, cups just works 16:57 reactor It doesn't. 16:57 hoodedice So, for me, it's nice 16:57 reactor It just fails. 16:57 reactor Rather. 16:57 hoodedice lol man 16:57 hoodedice Later people 16:57 reactor When it malfunctions, it's terrible. 16:57 reactor When it works, it works fine. But when it breaks, it's terrible to fix. 16:58 Calinou 2 girls 1 CUPS 16:58 * Calinou gallops away 16:58 reactor Haha. 16:59 reactor That's right, Calinou. 16:59 reactor It's poop. 17:03 Jordach Calinou, 2 guys 1 CPU 17:05 Calinou that's how hyperthreading should have been called 17:05 Jordach HA 17:10 Calinou it's a printer problem then 17:11 reactor If you can't use the printer with LPD, it's a shit printer. 17:11 reactor Destroy it. 17:25 reactor It seems you need to set up LPD. 17:25 reactor And stop trying to fix that broken piece of shit. 17:29 reactor Both 17:29 reactor If your printer works with PostScript, it's not shit. 17:29 reactor Otherwise, it is. 17:29 reactor CUPS is shit because it is shit. 17:30 reactor Rather, because it's based on the wrong idea of user friendliness. 17:30 reactor It's not user-friendly at all. 17:30 reactor It attempts to be, but it only makes everything worse. 17:34 reactor Good. 17:34 reactor Then it's not shit. 17:34 reactor But CUPS still is. 17:34 reactor LPD will work with it. 17:42 PilzAdam it seems like there are a lot of world corruption problems since the leveldb merge 17:44 reactor So what, make snapshots of your worlds. 17:45 reactor ...it would be nice to see a feature that allowed making map snapshots on the fly. 17:45 Ritchie reactor: why cups is shit? 17:46 reactor I have explained above. 17:46 reactor Do not be lazy. 18:01 Calinou My printer is an over 400€ laser b/w printer. 18:01 Calinou So it should be able to do postscript 18:01 Calinou apple hardware can cost over 2000 euros, and it can't run linux properly sometimes 18:03 reactor Heh. 18:03 FreeFull I think even really shitty printers do postscript though 18:03 reactor FreeFull: not all. 18:03 reactor Mine doesn't. 18:03 reactor I ditched attempts to make it work long ago. 18:05 Jordach +1 18:06 reactor Apple is hipster hardware, Linux is a hipster OS. 18:06 rubenwardy Hi all 18:08 Enke hi 18:08 PilzAdam http://devopsreactions.tumblr.com/post/63903759786/shall-we-buy-macbooks-to-look-cool-but-install-ubuntu 18:09 FreeFull I don't think you'll find any hipsters using Slackware 18:10 Enke funny. 18:10 cisoun > buy macbooks 18:10 cisoun >look cool 18:10 cisoun pick one 18:11 FreeFull Can I pick neither 18:11 Calinou pick nether! 18:14 Calinou isn't hipster = slightly hippie? 18:14 PilzAdam Calinou, hippie is too mainstream 18:19 * Jordach has mined to -2.5KM 18:22 BlockMen bye 18:23 specing john_minetest: -2.5 KM/ 18:24 specing you mean 2500 blocks down? 18:24 Jordach yup 18:24 specing I've seen people at -30000 18:24 specing on clip public server 18:24 Jordach is it creative? 18:24 specing no 18:24 Jordach specing, i've dug this within 24 hours 18:25 specing they got there in a flash 18:25 specing with a teleporter 18:25 Jordach that's not legit 18:25 specing it is legit 18:25 Jordach mine is a literal pit you can fall down 18:25 Jordach interestingly, i can fall down it at 0.2KM/S 18:26 Jordach (if you've preloaded the chunks, falling is smooth as butter) 18:26 specing Jordach: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2149 18:28 Jordach wool is TWO YEARS OLD 18:28 Jordach my original wool mod is ancient 18:28 Jordach (it still works if you add groups) 18:28 Jordach john_minetest, yes 18:28 Jordach john_minetest, you've timed out afaik 18:28 specing john_minetest: so what? If it gets you down there... 18:29 Jordach specing, try and do it legit 18:29 Jordach then we can talk about depth 18:29 Jordach specing, at least you're not this guy: [12-04 15:04] position = (-2.14748e+06,-1.63842e+06,-4712) 18:31 specing Jordach: for legit (10x10 block pit with stairs around), Im at -50 18:31 specing for legit digging down, I'm at -180 18:31 Jordach i'm using legit tools i crafted myself 18:31 specing me too 18:31 specing stone and silver pickaxes 18:31 Jordach (protip - technic has useful shit you really should get, tool repair, mining drills) 18:32 Calinou specing> I've seen people at -30000 18:32 Calinou there are real hipsters. 18:33 * Jordach ponders the kick all command 18:33 rubenwardy Lol, the UK is the only country without an independance day: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_day 18:34 Jordach yay 18:34 MinetestBot digitalaudioconcepts.com:30001 is up (470ms) 18:36 FreeFull The UK never got to be independent from anything 18:36 FreeFull rubenwardy: Germany doesn't have one either 18:36 FreeFull Woops 18:36 rubenwardy On the map, it does 18:36 FreeFull john beat me 18:37 FreeFull Germany is under "other national day" 18:37 rubenwardy oh 18:37 Calinou it's not like independence days are needed too much 18:54 Exio4 improve the code yourself 18:55 * Jordach suggests happy wheels 18:57 specing Is anyone else getting screen flashing when loading? 18:57 Calinou The "media" bar doesn't move at all when there are large amounts of media 18:57 Calinou it's because of poor scale, node/item definitions take up half of the bar... 18:58 Calinou they should take 5% each of the bar instead 18:59 sapier I plan to create a dynamic spawning mechanism for minetest, prototype is to be implemented in lua https://gist.github.com/sapier/7811148 this is my current API design does anyone have suggestions? 19:00 Calinou looks good 19:04 sapier can you give an example john? 19:06 Calinou "wiping" the loading bar after loading definitions would be confusing 19:07 Calinou them making up 10% of the bar makes more sense, also the bar should be made more wide 19:07 rubenwardy Next: lua loading bars! 19:07 Calinou and percentage reporting could be more accurate (eg: 40.2% instead of 40%) 19:09 Calinou it'd be more accurate for long downloads, and it doesn't cost anything to do 19:09 Calinou it looks smoother when downloading 19:12 rubenwardy What kind of bench marks will it have, sapier? 19:12 sapier no noticable lag to be added 19:12 rubenwardy Cool 19:13 sapier that's the goal and I have reason to assume this can be done 19:14 sapier but it's not implemented yet 19:16 Calinou there was a percentage, still 19:26 rubenwardy Nodebox or Node box? 19:44 specing john_minetest: what? 19:45 specing john_minetest: ~/.minetest/ is onl 56 MB here 19:48 specing What is loading so much time? 19:48 specing Is the client downloading all the mod .lua files and JITing them? 19:48 specing or is the client downloading world state? 19:50 specing because if it is the second then mods can't ruin it much 19:57 specing thats bad 19:57 specing it should be cached 20:02 Sokomine it is. but not the first time you join a server 20:02 specing Sokomine: Ima slap you for this 20:02 Sokomine it just takes so long on the first connection. due to the caching, it gets much faster later 20:02 * sfan5 puts a kitten on specing's head 20:03 specing oh wait, misunderstood 20:03 specing well it still takes a while 20:03 * Sokomine grabs the kitten and runs away with it 20:03 specing and the screen flashes a lot 20:03 specing not sure if my tiling WM is to blame or the broken nvidia 20:03 specing or minetest 20:04 Sokomine it does take a long time (1 minute/mb independent of connection time can happen). some servers provide additional download of media from another server. that happens automaticly when it's offered 20:04 Sokomine screen flashing sounds odd 20:04 iqualfragile can somebody explain rollback to me 20:05 Sokomine iqualfragile: which version? old or new one? technical or using it to roll back an actual griefer? 20:05 iqualfragile new, everything 20:07 Sokomine hm, for details you ought to ask who coded it (iirc zat?). the interface for the user is the same as before - except that it's much much faster now (=can actually be used without doing a dos attack on the server) and lists more than the last action on that node 20:09 Sokomine are you familiar with the old rollback? 20:12 zat ShadowNinja added the last bit though. 20:12 zat Was the new rollback included then? 20:15 Sokomine yes, it's now included. if only we could reach redcrab and get him to install a newer version! 20:15 * EvergreenTree throws a PilzAdam at sfan5 20:15 PilzAdam one does not simply throw a PilzAdam 20:16 * sfan5 puts Derpy Hooves on EvergreenTree's head 20:16 * specing throws another PilzAdam 20:16 * EvergreenTree slaps derpy hooves 20:16 * sfan5 slaps EvergreenTree 20:16 * EvergreenTree throws derpy hooves at sfan5 20:16 * sfan5 throws a kitten at EvergreenTree 20:17 * EvergreenTree gives the kitten an apple and throws it at sfan5 20:17 * sfan5 catches the kitten and puts it on Calinou's head 20:17 EvergreenTree Hi Calinou 20:18 * EvergreenTree runs over to Calinou and places derpy hooves on his head 20:18 Calinou hi 20:18 * sfan5 places a sapling on EvergreenTree's head 20:18 Calinou *derpy hooves gets impaled by my horn* 20:18 * Calinou gallops away 20:19 * sfan5 catches Calinou with a reverse gravity gun and puts him into the kitchen 20:22 * sfan5 places two 猫 on john_minetest's head 20:24 * EvergreenTree slaps Jordach 20:24 * Sokomine puts a bucket of water on EvergreenTrees sapling 20:25 EvergreenTree Cool! Now I'm a double tree 20:25 EvergreenTree Twice the power! >:D 20:27 sfan5 !op 20:27 Sokomine :-) don't let people wielding an axe get close :) 20:27 sfan5 !deop 20:28 Calinou people with bad UTF-8-in-topic support will be happy 20:28 Calinou :/ 20:28 sfan5 yep the will 20:29 iqualfragile the average age in this channel seems to have dropped to 12 20:31 sfan5 s/age/bass/ 20:33 Megaf ok, the new rollback just doesnt work 20:33 Megaf it says, nothing to do 20:34 EvergreenTree Nice, I am now the official resident tree on #minetest 20:37 Megaf yep, rollback does not work at all 20:37 Megaf hm 20:37 Megaf it works 20:37 Megaf But I found a bug 20:44 Jordach meow 20:44 Jordach EvergreenTree, ^ 20:44 EvergreenTree rowr 20:45 Jordach you know exactly what i mean 20:48 iqualfragile john_minetest: yeah, we all know how to browse imgur 21:15 Calinou http://i.imgur.com/vodKA.jpg 21:15 Calinou john_minetest, ^ 21:16 PilzAdam vodka? 21:17 PilzAdam is that intentional? 21:18 Calinou no 21:18 Calinou names are always random 21:22 Miner_48er anyone know where to get the playergroups mod? 21:23 EvergreenTree Hey Miner_48er, did you know 43.5% of the time you are asking a question? 21:24 Miner_48er yes 21:26 EvergreenTree evergreen.shutdown('bye') 21:36 PilzAdam bye 21:39 sapier Miner_48er are you talking about factions? 21:44 kaeza [18:37:58] But I found a bug 21:44 kaeza shouting "BUG!" is generally considered rude without proper evidence 21:45 kaeza ah well, looks like he's not here anyway 21:46 Calinou a bug's life 21:46 iqualfragile good news: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/NSA-sammelt-taeglich-Milliarden-Handy-Standortdaten-2060541.html 21:46 sfan5 >good 21:46 sfan5 lol 21:53 kaeza very phone, so technology 22:04 fixed hi all... im new to minetest. do i need to add a mod to get monsters? 22:05 kaeza fixed, yes 22:05 fixed ah no wonder its so quiet here ;) 22:06 kaeza fixed, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=629 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3063 22:06 kaeza the former is more lightweight, but the monsters are a bit dumb 22:06 kaeza the latter has more intelligent monsters, but is also more demanding on resources 22:07 kaeza eh the other way around 22:08 fixed i go for lightweight at first :) 22:08 fixed thanks man 22:08 fixed ehh ... kaeza said the first one is light? :) 22:08 fixed getting confused 22:09 kaeza MOBF is heavy; simple mobs is light :P 22:09 kaeza (mixed the links) 22:09 fixed ahh ok 22:13 Calinou in soviet russia, you are heavy, mobf is kaeza, simple light is mobs 22:14 kaeza lol 22:44 fairiestoy Hey guys. A question ( must have any information if this is available somewhere ): Is it possible to trigger the server into some 'mute' state in order to supress terminal output? Logging is ok, but that terminal output would be nice to be turned off 22:45 pitriss fairiestoy: ./minetest &> /dev/null 22:46 fairiestoy Urgh thanks. To obvious to be seen -___- :P 22:54 Brian___ Good evening 22:56 ShadowNinja Hello Brian___! 22:56 Brian___ How goes it? 22:57 ShadowNinja Well, you? 22:57 Brian___ Fine thank you. Just trying to figure out xchat so I can log into the dev channel 22:58 ShadowNinja /join #minetest-dev 22:58 Brian___ Never used irc before 23:03 sapier did anyone try latest mobf prior calling it heavy? 23:37 danquebec_ Hi. I use Fedora 19. I compiled Minetest 0.4.8 some days ago. When I start playing in a world, it almost immediately crashes. I get a segmentation fault. 23:37 danquebec_ There is the result: http://fpaste.org/59410/13862863/ 23:38 danquebec_ And when I run with gdb: http://fpaste.org/59412/28647313/ 23:42 danquebec_ (this last link is the backtrace on gdb when it has segfaulted) 23:50 PandemoniuM wow. new update for cannons mod is VERY nice 23:50 ShadowNinja danquebec_: That gas been fixed since then, re-compile. 23:50 ShadowNinja has* 23:50 danquebec_ Wow really? Lol I’m really out of luck. 23:50 danquebec_ Thank you. Going to try that. 23:52 PandemoniuM just made a .x shape in milkshape. I used the heli.x model from Helicopter mod to make it within the same size 23:52 PandemoniuM but its super small in game, yet you can tell its within a much larger block 23:56 ShadowNinja PandemoniuM: Try setting visual_scale to something higher.