Time Nick Message 00:30 EvergreenTree o/ 00:30 EvergreenTree ^ that's a waving guy if you didn't know 00:30 VanessaE hi 00:33 Enke Hi. 00:35 iqualfragile john_minetest: just use neo 00:35 iqualfragile night 00:41 topcyde Is there a cartography mod / app besides the minetest mapper? I got lost for an hour and a half in my world yesterday. 00:41 topcyde minetest mapper didn't work for me. I think i have python issues. 02:00 EvergreenTree evergreen_tree.shutdown("Leaving") 02:00 EvergreenTree Bye guys 02:00 VanessaE bye 02:05 LandMiner hello!! peeps 02:05 LandMiner darn oldcoder is not here 02:37 LandMiner oldcoder!!! 02:37 LandMiner you are just in time 02:37 OldCoder Hi 02:37 OldCoder ? 02:37 LandMiner can i pm you? 02:37 OldCoder Yes 02:37 LandMiner ty 02:40 ShadowNinja topcyde: No, but there is a mapper written in C++ that is much faster. A improved version is listed on my github page. 02:41 topcyde shadowninja: this one https://github.com/ShadowNinja/areas? 02:42 ShadowNinja topcyde: No, it's named minetest-mapper-cpp or some such. 02:43 topcyde ah.. found it 03:05 Exio4 an improved version? :P 03:11 ShadowNinja Exio4: Yes, unknown nodes don't show up as block and a few other things. 03:11 ShadowNinja black* 03:35 OldCoder Hi 03:35 OldCoder ShadowNinja, VanessaE I did a git clone of 03:35 VanessaE hi 03:35 OldCoder https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git 03:36 OldCoder Hi 03:36 OldCoder then cd into the folder 03:36 OldCoder then 03:36 OldCoder git checkout stable-0.4 03:36 OldCoder then git pull 03:36 OldCoder said up to date 03:36 VanessaE that seems right 03:36 OldCoder why didn't it revert any of the changes from upstream bleeding edge? 03:36 * OldCoder is curious 03:36 VanessaE that I don't know, but 0.4.8 is already out of date due to bugfixes 03:36 OldCoder when I did the git clone 03:37 OldCoder shouldn't it have pulled the latest? 03:37 OldCoder nvm bugfixes curious about how it works 03:37 ShadowNinja OldCoder: The checkout updates your working directory. 03:37 OldCoder But I saw no downloads 03:37 OldCoder Shouldn't it have downloaded more files? 03:37 OldCoder t y for thoughts 03:38 ShadowNinja OldCoder: No, as master contains all of the commits in stable-0.4. 03:38 OldCoder Ah 03:38 OldCoder so git clone 03:38 OldCoder gets stable too? 03:38 OldCoder But are you now recommending 03:38 OldCoder git bleeding edge? 03:39 ShadowNinja OldCoder: Yes, as stable is a subset of master. I would recommend master due to SQLite rollback and a LevelDB fix. 03:44 RavonTUS Hello, any one know what folder mobf stores it's logs in? (unbunt) 03:44 pandemonium__ what kind of logs? as in whats data are you looking for 03:46 RavonTUS it crashed when I make sheep, but I can't read the error on the screen. I was hoping it might have a crash log. 03:49 RavonTUS Error:servererror:luaerror: mobf.lua 505: attempt < and I can't see the rest of the error. 03:50 RavonTUS Minetest v.4.8, Mobf 2.3.2. and yes Simple Mob was installed and removed, /clearobjects ran before removing, if that helps. That's about all I saw in the forum. 03:55 pandemonium__ hmm no idea 03:55 pandemonium__ im rather new as well, but i havent had any issues yet 03:55 pandemonium__ have you been modding the modf code? 03:56 pandemonium__ or using parts of it in other mods? 03:56 RavonTUS no, just getting started. Trying to figure it out. 03:57 pandemonium__ id try a fresh install because i havent had any issues with that mod 03:57 pandemonium__ =/ 03:57 pandemonium__ im sure one of the regulars would have better idea 03:57 RavonTUS did RunUO back in the day, looking for something else to mess with. :) 03:57 pandemonium__ this is def it 03:57 pandemonium__ i rewrote the villages mod, if youve seen that 03:58 pandemonium__ i wrote code that makes a 4 point fort with palisade walls 03:58 RavonTUS sounds cool. I'll have to check it out. 03:58 OldCoder ShadowNinja, t y 03:58 pandemonium__ yeah, its based on how the Instabuild code works 03:58 OldCoder I am building MT for CentOS6. Irrlicht seems to be missing for that distro. I suppose I must build it. What release of Irrlicht is recommended? 04:01 RavonTUS cya round, night. 06:53 hoodedice MT is getting laggy =/ 06:59 hoodedice sfan5: Latest builds freezes on my system 07:30 topcyde I've downloaded the and vines and ropebox mod and the plants_lib, but can't seem to figure out how to make rope or a ropebox. I've tried several different configurations with assorted plants and leaves and it never does anything. I'm trying to get my gold laden body out of a very precarious position in the bottom of a volcano, there's starting to get a stack of corpses in there. 08:19 xiong Has anyone successfully run a Minetest server from a VPS? 08:19 VanessaE I do. 08:19 VanessaE Five of them, from a Linode instance, to be exact. 08:20 xiong I'm sure you do. You, of all people, are probably not serving off a laptop. 08:20 VanessaE heh, nope. 08:20 xiong However, all the docs I'm turning up seem geared to that crowd: the "I wanna run a server off my laptop through my home broadband connection when Mom and Dad aren't looking" crowd. 08:21 xiong I believe I have successfully installed minetest-server 0.4.8 in my VPS. 08:22 xiong I theorize that minetest.conf will need to be substantially different from one in which key mappings are given. 08:22 VanessaE not really. 08:23 xiong Well. 08:23 xiong ... for some value of "substantially". I'm autistic so I consider anything past a blank line, significant. 08:24 VanessaE here's te config I use on my survival server: 08:24 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6518609/ 08:24 VanessaE the other four are substantially similar 08:25 VanessaE differing mostly in the MOTD and master server stuff (lines 17-24) 08:25 xiong Ha, far out. 08:25 VanessaE creative is the only other one that uses the remote_media feature 08:25 xiong I did the stupidest possible thing and started the server with no config file at all. Connected from my own desktop client. Works. 08:25 VanessaE (for that, you need to set up a webserver; I use nginx, per thexyz's suggestion) 08:27 VanessaE lines 27-29 and 32-34 are mod-specific, you can ignore those. line 16 is a leftover from an old config 08:28 VanessaE at the very very least, you need the name= and server_*= lines, and you should have a static_spawnpoint and motd. 08:28 VanessaE the rest just depends on personal preference, level of risk (e.g the map save interval), etc. 08:29 xiong Um... but I started the server without any of that. 08:29 VanessaE yep I know 08:29 VanessaE without a name= parameter, the server doesn't know who the admin is. 08:30 VanessaE without the server_*= lines, it won't announce to the master server lisr 08:30 VanessaE list* 08:30 VanessaE motd is for other clients, works like an irc motd but shorter. 08:31 VanessaE a static spawnpoint is a must. without it, people may spawn inside trees, in the water, underground, etc. instead of wherever you want them to, e.g. a specific building 08:31 VanessaE rollback recording is essential to protect against griefing to some degree. you can use it to undo others' damage. 08:32 xiong Well, the last thing I want to do with a testing server is announce it. 08:32 VanessaE default privs almost always needs to be set, as without it I seem to recall everyone gets shout, interact, and eh I forget the other one. maybe noclip. You'll likely want to avoid granting interact by default, but you may on the other hand want to give everyone fast, perhaps fly. 08:32 xiong No, I don't mean to continue from this point. No configuration, no mods, nothing. 08:32 VanessaE ok 08:33 VanessaE well surely you will leave the 'testing' phase and make it public, or at least shared to a few friends. you still need at least some of that ^^^ 08:33 xiong I'm just happy it works at all. That puts me over several bars, including a half-hour lecture from the Debian wonks about how I should never have installed the unstable package the way I did. And they may well be right... but the proof of the pudding is, it works. 08:35 xiong Well, thanks for the example minetest.conf file. Between that and whatever default the server spits out on quit, if any, I'll have a starting point. I suspect all the configuration is here, not in command line options. 08:35 VanessaE most of it 08:36 VanessaE but you'll eventually need to specify at least a world name. 08:36 hoodedice I'm in the top 20! 08:36 hoodedice http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html 08:37 hoodedice And the latest build doesn't run! 08:37 xiong Yes well, as I say, I'm sure there's no going forward from where I am now... without some sort of configuration. 08:37 VanessaE I'm still the biggest chatterbox on the channel :) 08:37 VanessaE well good luck. 08:37 xiong Thanks again. 08:39 hoodedice Indeed. "VanessaE talks to herself a lot. She wrote over 5 lines in a row 125 times!" 08:39 VanessaE heh 08:39 VanessaE I guess the bot doesn't know from writing for the sake of the logs for later review 08:41 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7890 08:42 VanessaE ......? how? 08:42 VanessaE of course, noting the lighting...upside-down world? 08:44 hoodedice One more. Total = 6. 08:44 hoodedice =7 08:47 hoodedice VanessaE: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=120664#p120664 08:49 VanessaE :P 08:49 hoodedice I was originally gonna do something else... Why not do it now? 08:52 hoodedice Ah yes, download links added 09:04 VanessaE hey cn 09:12 VanessaE and...there goes a quarter of the channel. 09:43 Megaf folks, is there a way of using socksv5 proxy? 09:48 JamesTait Morning all! :) 09:48 VanessaE hi 09:48 VanessaE Megaf: no clue 09:56 JamesTait I thought socks5 was TCP-oriented, minetest is UDP IIRC. 13:13 OldCoder john_minetest, hi 13:59 kaeza mornings 15:02 reactor OldCoder: o/ 15:06 sfan5 hi everyone 15:08 reactor o/ 15:18 Gethiox l 15:18 Gethiox o/ 15:22 kaeza o/ 15:23 PandemoniuM o/ 15:23 jin_xi 😿 15:24 kaeza 😒 15:25 reactor ЪЪЪЪ 15:26 reactor шШТЙФТ ЗОФЫВ. 15:29 PandemoniuM 1001001001 15:30 PandemoniuM (\/)(;,,;)(\/) 15:50 reactor шИФИГЫИВТ! 15:55 kaeza hey john_minetest 16:00 reactor Hi john_minetest. 16:01 reactor Cured your bronedom yet? 16:09 hoodedice Yo Jordach 16:09 Jordach brains 16:10 * hoodedice shotguns Jordach 16:10 hoodedice BAM! 16:10 Jordach hoodedice, i'm sleepy 16:10 hoodedice Okay. 16:10 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7890 16:14 kaeza hoodedice, Alt+F4 would have been a better key combination 16:14 hoodedice Indeed. 16:14 hoodedice I was thinking of it, but that would blow it right off XD 16:14 hoodedice Didja test that mod? 16:16 kaeza yes, it's awesome! 16:16 hoodedice XD 16:17 hoodedice I think this should be featured on the screenshot section on the main site 16:17 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=120668#p120668 16:18 Exio4 kaeza: s/it's/i am/ 16:18 kaeza Exio4, that needn't be said; everyone knows that! 16:19 Exio4 i know i am awesome :> 16:20 hoodedice http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/thumb/6/60/User_Jette_awesome.svg/2048px-User_Jette_awesome.svg.png 16:23 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202012-12-27%2005%3A43%3A50.png 16:32 reactor I understand. 16:33 reactor You seem to like to talk about "everypony". 16:41 reactor VanessaE: o/ 16:42 VanessaE hi 16:43 e1z0 yo VanessaE 16:43 am-i-kawaii yo VanessaE i will let you set a custom game mode 16:43 e1z0 sup ? 16:44 * VanessaE kicks the bot solidly in its microprocessor 16:55 kaeza oh am-i-kawaii is back 16:57 am-i-kawaii john_minetest: incorrect usage, ask for help using 'am-i-kawaii: help chat' 16:58 OldCoder back 16:58 OldCoder reactor is gone 16:58 OldCoder good morning 16:58 nekofire hello 16:59 nekofire I downloaded the zip file for the game and my comp is saying its invalid or corrupted 16:59 kaeza hi 16:59 OldCoder john_minetest, kaeza o/ 17:01 hoodedice nekofire: Where did you get it from? 17:02 kaeza OldCoder, \o 17:03 nekofire the website 17:03 nekofire minetest.net 17:03 hoodedice Hmm, and which OS are you on? 17:03 nekofire xp 17:06 Jordach or unfinished 17:06 hoodedice Or cancelled. 17:11 hoodedice Later peeps 17:13 hoodedice kaeza: Thy Hath Been Ninja'd 17:13 hoodedice (tm) 17:13 kaeza :P 17:14 * kaeza pokes hoodedice with a ™ 17:14 hoodedice Damn symbols. 17:15 nekofire no i finished the DL 17:15 am-i-kawaii no i cannot share some random linux CD/DVD/USB after you get cobble 17:16 kaeza wat 17:16 kaeza nekofire, try downloading again 17:16 kaeza or try another archiver 17:17 nekofire i have downloaded twice 17:17 nekofire im gonna try another opener 17:35 nekofire great now i start minetest and get this Access violation at 00408D61 write?=0 address=16 17:35 nekofire Access violation at 00408 D61 write?=0 address=16 17:35 nekofire take out the space i had to put one in it was making a smiley 17:35 VanessaE sounds like the build you're using is not fully compatible with your OS or hardware or something? 17:36 nekofire i tried 4.7 whn . 8 wouldnt work 17:36 VanessaE 0.4.7 is outdated. 17:36 VanessaE why didn't 0.4.8 work? 17:40 nekofire 11:29:25: ERROR[main]: WARNING: Font file was not found. Using default font. 17:40 nekofire oops 17:40 nekofire wrong on 17:42 nekofire 11:29:25: ERROR[main]: Failed to load and run script from C:\Documents and Settings\Kristin =’?’=\Desktop\minetest-0.4.8\bin\..\builtin\mainmenu.lua:GUIEngine: unable to load builtin menu 17:45 kaeza nekofire, try moving it to a directory without spaces and other funky chars 17:45 kaeza like C:\minetest-0.4.8 or so 18:01 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 18:02 Nick____ Hi 18:02 Nick____ Brb. seems my username is taken... 18:14 nekofire i did and no dice 18:17 Microchip PilzAdam, I wanted to ask you a question. 18:17 nekofire 12:18:00: ERROR[main]: C:\Documents and Settings\Kristin =’?’=\Desktop\minetest\bin\..\builtin\mainmenu.lua:12:18:00: ERROR[main]: cannot open C:\Documents and Settings\Kristin =’?’=\Desktop\minetest\bin\..\builtin\mainmenu.lua: Invalid argument 18:17 PilzAdam Microchip, are you going to do that now? 18:18 Microchip Lol. Well first, does LuaJIT compile at runtime? 18:18 Microchip Or during initialization of init.lua 18:18 PilzAdam nekofire, eh, dont run Minetest in paths with special characters 18:18 PilzAdam Microchip, its a just in time compiler 18:18 PilzAdam so it compiles at runtime 18:18 nekofire bleh there are none i just stuck it on my desktop 18:19 PilzAdam "Kristin =’?’=" looks very "special" to me 18:19 Microchip Then, wouldn't the compiler take longer than just interpreting the code? 18:20 PilzAdam Microchip, may I direct you to the wikipedia article about JIT? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-in-time_compilation 18:20 Microchip Ah. Thanks xD 18:20 nekofire im not sure why its doing that i just stuck it on my desktop.....ohhh....shit 18:20 nekofire heh 18:20 nekofire kay 18:21 VanessaE Microchip: the short version is that the JIT compiler runs through the code in a few seconds, one time, at server start-up. After that, until the next start, only the compiled results are run. 18:22 VanessaE what costs a few seconds at startup saves minutes, possibly hours for really complex code, over time. 18:43 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7936448768/hB20ECA1B/ 18:46 * Jordach has 3 MK3 Mining drills on VE-Survival 18:46 thefamilygrog66 bonjour 18:47 VanessaE hi 18:48 Jordach VanessaE, i am god now :D 18:48 Jordach evergreen only has one drill :D 18:48 Microchip Is this a good idea for a mod? A furnace that burns fuel yet doesn't smelt anything, used for light 18:48 VanessaE heh.. rm /home/minetest/.minetest/worlds/Survival_World/players/Jordach 18:48 VanessaE >:-) 18:48 Jordach VanessaE, fuck off :P 18:48 Microchip ^ lol 18:49 Jordach also; y u /.minetest/ 18:49 kaeza >not RUN_IN_PLACE 18:49 kaeza :< 18:50 VanessaE why use a run-in-place build on VPS server? 18:50 kaeza VanessaE, because easy management :P 18:50 thefamilygrog66 howdy 18:50 Jordach VanessaE, i preferred it too 18:50 VanessaE kaeza: ssh root@host ; make; make install .... 18:51 Jordach you run minetest AS ROOT 18:51 VanessaE no 18:51 kaeza plus you can nuke everything with a simple `rm' 18:51 VanessaE I install it as root, duh 18:51 am-i-kawaii today's penalty its hot in summer, not in minetest. how do i put it somewhere in 0.4.x when we don't exactly like dirt_with_grass but with a /giveme if you can also be nice 18:51 kaeza <.< 18:51 Jordach she's fucking retarded 18:51 Jordach veto right now: KICKBAN? 18:51 kaeza -1 18:52 Jordach i thought we had this convo on bots 18:52 Jordach no bots allowed for fuck sakes 18:52 kaeza VanessaE, I have several users on my VPS; one for service-like things like quassel, a random IRC bot, etc, one for minetest, and a "personal" account 18:52 VanessaE ditto. 18:52 botbotbot I am a bot. Not. 18:52 VanessaE minetest runs as "minetest" 18:53 VanessaE my webserver I think runs as nobody, with files owned by either me or minetest (depending on what they are) 18:53 Jordach iirc, didn't xyz say himself, no more bots 18:53 VanessaE I only use root for admin stuff as usual. 18:53 kaeza RUN_IN_PLACE keeps things clean, with all minetest-related files in ~minetest 18:54 thefamilygrog66 I wish I was a freakin' robot sometimes. 18:54 kaeza the "services" account has all the stuff related to quassel, the bot, etc under it's home dir too 18:54 VanessaE kaeza: ditto 18:55 kaeza anyway, if it works for you, it works for you :P 18:55 VanessaE my website (and abe's) in my homedir, minetest's stuff in its homedir 18:55 VanessaE and yeah, it does. so sod off. or something. ;) 18:58 thefamilygrog66 Yep, those were the good old days, john_minetest 19:07 thefamilygrog66 hey VanessaE, has the font changed for signs in homedecor? 19:07 VanessaE yes 19:08 VanessaE kaeza improved the code to the point where he and I were able to put in higher-resolution fonts 19:08 thefamilygrog66 thought so - was on a server last night that has it, but wasn't sure if it was tweaked or not 19:08 thefamilygrog66 good job - they look really good now 19:08 VanessaE by default it's 17px now instead of 6px or whatever it was before 19:08 thefamilygrog66 don't tell Jordach, though... 19:09 Jordach GR 19:09 Jordach i heard that 19:09 thefamilygrog66 TOO MANY PIXELS!!! 19:09 thefamilygrog66 bahaha 19:09 Jordach quassel makes this BIG GREY BAR at the top of my screen with the message in it 19:09 VanessaE thefamilygrog66: it goes higher :P 19:10 VanessaE the highest-resolution font supplied with the mod goes to 34px 19:10 thefamilygrog66 nice 19:10 VanessaE or something lik that 19:10 thefamilygrog66 I suppose I should update all my mods for this brand spanking new version, eh? 19:11 VanessaE 11, 17, 25, and 34px are it, with 17px being the default. 19:11 VanessaE oh yes, most definitely :) 19:11 VanessaE but kaeza will be adding locked signs soon, too :) 19:11 thefamilygrog66 very cool 19:12 twoelk Vanessa, could it be that the links to the maps of your servers in the forum topics point to a folder not existing under that address? 19:12 VanessaE aw crap 19:13 VanessaE I'll fix it 19:17 jojoa1997 how come when i run minetest windows firewall comes up 19:19 twoelk minetest needs your permission to use some ports as you might want to play on a public server or host one 19:19 Jordach jojoa1997, it just does 19:21 jojoa1997 if my school blocks it is there any other way to host a lan server or something of the sort that others could connect to 19:23 VanessaE twoelk: ok, it's fixed. the maps will be updated tonight at their regular schedule. 19:24 twoelk fine 19:24 VanessaE (I forgot to re-compile the mapper after moving the VPS over to debian) 19:24 Jordach lel 19:26 Jordach VanessaE, you might be able to compile, write bash, run stuff, but can't remember anything - it's just like you have 640k in your head :D 19:27 twoelk now I just need to find a working client as "stable" seems outdated for a VanessaE server again :-( 19:27 VanessaE twoelk: 0.4.8 should work fine? 19:27 VanessaE (also, it is *not* fixed. getting segfaults while the mapper is running) 19:27 Jordach ohai jojoa1997 19:29 jojoa1997 Hi Jordach! 19:30 twoelk don't know wether sqlite allows reading a database while another program has it open. 19:31 Issa2013 hé 19:31 Issa2013 can u upadte the ppa of ubuntu ? 19:31 Issa2013 because ppa is on 0.4.7 19:31 Issa2013 that's bad 19:33 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Only create one alias metatable 000da6b25d 2013-12-04T11:31:55-08:00 http://git.io/4hT85Q 19:35 ShadowNinja Issa2013: The offifial PPA has 0.4.7? Wow, they must have updted it recently, it was on 0.3.1 before. 19:36 ShadowNinja Ubuntu isn't known for prompt updates. ;-) 19:39 ShadowNinja Issa2013: "apt-add-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable" 19:39 thefamilygrog66 Go with the daily build on ubuntu, yo. 19:42 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7921498624/hEE6BF242/ 19:43 Jordach oh dear 19:43 Jordach really, really? 19:46 emptty Hello there. It seems to me that mods don't work in my minetest packages for debian, but I dunno why 19:46 emptty When I'm in the Mods tab of the menu, my console is filled with error messages: Could not open file of texture: /home/mquinson/.minetest/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png 19:47 emptty That file does not exist on my disk 19:47 FreeFull You can probably ignore those 19:47 emptty It should be /usr/share/games/minetest/textures/base/pack/no_screenshot.png, which exists 19:48 emptty I guess that this is a (minor?) bug due to the fact that I dont play in place 19:49 emptty And when I try to get online mods, I get the message: 20:48:52: ERROR[main]: MAINMENU ERROR: LuaError: C++ exception 19:53 Jordach damn PA goes far 19:54 Jordach the Db meter is recieving 80Db total from PulseAudio + Triton Headset Amp 19:55 FreeFull 80dB is pretty loud 19:55 Jordach eg, my Acoustic headphones can take it 19:56 Jordach and 12v of power (thank you USB) 19:56 FreeFull v is voltage 19:56 Jordach Acoustic Solutions also makes stuff under the Acoustic brand, keep an eye out for them, they're much better than the average 19:57 thefamilygrog66 too loud... 19:57 Jordach thefamilygrog66, it still doesn't stop my brother's bass 19:57 Jordach i'm actually thinking of installing oscillators to conteract it 19:57 Jordach counteract* 20:08 iqualfragile guys: fix your www, install request policy 20:08 iqualfragile its worth it 20:09 iqualfragile emptty: you can ignore those screenshot messages 20:10 emptty iqualfragile: do you know anything about the LuaError: C++ exception ? 20:11 emptty If someone tries to write where the mods are, the error is quite expected: there is no ~/.minetest/mods on my machine, and the /usr/share/....../mods is not writable 20:37 specing Leoneof: LEONEOF 20:37 specing Leoneof: you up 20:37 specing Leoneof: ? 20:41 Leoneof lol 20:41 Leoneof specing: what you are doing here? 20:42 Leoneof i don't know why i'm here, but it is ok 20:48 jojoa1997 can a minetest lan be run through a proxy 20:49 Calinou why? 20:51 Leoneof because he want to do that 20:51 jojoa1997 school is blocking minetest 20:51 jojoa1997 firewall to be excact 20:52 Calinou then do other things at school... 20:52 Calinou a proxy increases lag anyway :P 20:52 ShadowNinja emptty: Writing to the mod directory is bad practice and should be considered a mod error, the world dir is a better place, although we should probably have a settings dir or similar for non-world-specific files. 20:53 emptty ShadowNinja: Not sure that this is what happens here. I only know that the modstore raises a C++ error that breaks in lua 20:53 iqualfragile emptty: no 20:54 ShadowNinja emptty: That error message happens when a function in the Lua API throws an exception and LuaJIT gobbles up the message. 20:54 emptty How could I debug this one? 20:55 ShadowNinja "throw LuaError(L, "Something went wrong");" -> "ServerError: LuaError: C++ exception" Try compiling with non-JIT Lua. 21:00 specing tmp/portage/games-action/minetest-0.4.8/work/minetest-0.4.8/src/inventory.cpp:624: ItemStack& InventoryList::getItem(irr::u32): Assertion 'i < m_size' failed. 21:01 specing after right-clicking on craft_guide on clip public server 21:02 specing happened again 21:02 specing okay, don't click craft guide ;P 21:03 specing http://bpaste.net/show/hBDO1g5P6YXUWvfCrL0G/ 21:04 Leoneof btw, it's required to enter password? 21:05 kaeza Leoneof, depends on server 21:07 xiong I find that I'm able to run 'minetestserver' as an ordinary user without 'sudo'. That puts all the configurations in '~/.minetest', yes? Is there any reason to tinker with anything outside of '/home'? I was considering a fake user on the system. 21:08 Leoneof this game is using %100 of cpu with two cores, whats up 21:13 thefamilygrog66 it's hacking your system, Leoneof 21:13 FreeFull xiong: Minetest servers run on ports above 1024, so yeah, you don't need root priviledges at all 21:14 xiong No; and I don't see, then, why I want to do any configuration at all, of any kind, outside of some dedicated user account. 21:15 xiong It's a service; it should be run by a service (fake) user. 21:15 xiong I mean, it's not an essential service so why have it anywhere outside of '/home'? 21:16 Calinou Leoneof, the game uses some multithreading 21:16 Calinou it is a good thing 21:16 * Jordach + shaders + TP = https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=120731#p120731 21:16 Jordach (look at the water level!) 21:16 Leoneof Calinou: but it's supposed to use gpu? i feel not 21:16 Calinou it uses both 21:17 Leoneof i want to use only gpu, my cpu is poor and don't want to put all effort on it :] 21:18 Calinou you can't 21:19 Calinou CPU will always be needed for a GPU to work 21:19 Calinou rendering calls put stress on the CPU too 21:19 Leoneof :( 21:20 Leoneof winehq + hitman3 is very smooth and more than minetest -_- 21:20 FreeFull Any news on minetest 2? 21:21 Calinou is hitman3 old? 21:21 Calinou wine is quite CPU-dependent 21:21 Calinou FreeFull, you mean Freeminer? 21:22 Leoneof Calinou: well, libreoffice is smoother than minetest ;) 21:23 Leoneof very true 21:23 Calinou not for me 21:24 Calinou on a netbook, it takes 10 seconds, on desktop, less than 5 seconds 21:24 Calinou 4.1 21:24 Calinou it runs fine on netbook, which has 1GB of RAM 21:25 FreeFull Calinou: That's not really 2 21:25 FreeFull It's more ++ 21:26 Calinou there is no Minetest 2? 21:27 Leoneof john_minetest: it's still poor when you compare with microsoft office 21:29 Calinou very few people use abiword/gnumeric 21:30 Calinou I use the term "powerpoint" as other word for "presentation software". 21:30 Calinou don't do that, don't "brand" your language 21:30 Calinou find an acronym for it or something 21:31 thefamilygrog66 that sounds like a band-aid solution 21:31 thefamilygrog66 pass me the kleenex 21:31 Calinou lol 21:31 thefamilygrog66 :P 21:31 thefamilygrog66 trolling, trolling, trolling 21:32 thefamilygrog66 (sung to the tune of "Rawhide") 21:33 thefamilygrog66 no kidding - it's not like I'm gonna tell my kids that I'm using the no-name stuff! 21:48 VanessaE Calinou: can you please change moreblocks/stairsplus to use the invertwall feature of the rotate_and_place() call. forcewall is turning out to be rather cumbersome in practice, at least with stairs/slabs. 21:49 VanessaE s/call\./call\?/ 21:49 Calinou ok, but not now, going to sleep :p 21:49 VanessaE I'll do it 21:49 Calinou you can do it and send a pull request 21:49 VanessaE sure 21:49 Esteban hi everyone! :D 21:49 Calinou hi Esteban :) 21:49 EvergreenTree Hello! 21:52 EvergreenTree It's nice to see me and VanessaE's rotate_and_place is used 21:52 kaeza holas Esteban 21:52 Esteban hola Kaeza! 21:53 Esteban Things I write here can be seen in the IRC mod? or do I have to use a specified channel? 21:53 Esteban I always had this doubt :P 21:53 kaeza lol no :P 21:53 PilzAdam bye 21:53 kaeza we have a dedicated channel on another network though 21:54 kaeza #minetest @ irc.inchra.net 21:54 Calinou Esteban, the IRC mod can use any channel as relay 21:54 Calinou however, if someone uses this channel as a relay, I think the bot would get quieted (which means people can say stuff to the server, but not the inverse) 21:55 Esteban Oh... thanks guys! 21:55 Calinou np 21:55 Calinou night :) 21:56 kaeza night 21:58 EvergreenTree night 22:01 Esteban How I connect to other channels? Im a noob to the irc XD 22:02 EvergreenTree You're using the web irc right? 22:02 Esteban yes 22:02 EvergreenTree You can't unless you open a new tab in the browser 22:03 EvergreenTree I would suggest using an irc client like hexchat or quassel 22:03 Esteban thanx 22:03 * EvergreenTree uses xchat 22:04 kaeza you can connect to other channels via webchat, but not to other networks 22:04 kaeza still, I recommend getting hexchat 22:04 kaeza will make your life easier :> 22:05 * Esteban writes it down on a notepad 22:06 EvergreenTree I was about to say "notepad sucks" until I realized you meant real life, not software. :P 22:07 kaeza yes, use leafpad; it sucks but it's free! 22:07 EvergreenTree plol 22:07 Esteban lol 22:07 EvergreenTree If you use windows, notepad++ is great 22:07 EvergreenTree for coding stuff 22:09 Esteban Since i havent programmed stuff before, I used to use notepad, but for now Im using wordpad...when I get my new pc Ill get notepad++ 22:10 EvergreenTree I'm not sure if it supports windows, but two good editing programs for linux is geany(for larger projects) and gedit(for smaller things) 22:10 EvergreenTree s/it/they 22:10 kaeza geany at least works on windows 22:10 kaeza dunno about gedit 22:11 EvergreenTree I looked it up, it does 22:11 kaeza there's also jEdit if you don't mind having to install the JRE :3 22:11 EvergreenTree and also, gedit basically means gnome-edit 22:11 EvergreenTree because it is the default text editor for gnome 22:13 EvergreenTree lol, sfan5's stats: "Is Miner_48er stupid or just asking too many questions? 43.5% lines contained a question! " 22:15 EvergreenTree http://funny-pictures-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Judging-tree.jpg 22:16 * Esteban thinks on what to draw... 22:16 EvergreenTree a minetest tree! :# 22:16 EvergreenTree *:3 22:17 Esteban :3 ok 22:19 Esteban well gtg for now, see ya on the forums! 22:20 * Esteban le flies away 22:47 EvergreenTree Hey bas080 22:47 EvergreenTree you don't do too much talking on here actually 22:55 * ShadowNinja has been working on his esoteric programing language 22:56 FreeFull ShadowNinja: I know a channel for that 22:57 harrison also you must have an editor for the terminal window and i recommend nano 22:58 FreeFull I recommend ed 22:59 kaeza I recommend butterflies 23:00 harrison butterfly is the only word i know that was formed by spoonerism (from flutter by) 23:00 ShadowNinja FreeFull: Ah, what one? ShadowBot has it built in. sfan5: I remember you tried to do something like this with it before: ,,(derplangplus "var:b:99; label:start; print:b:' bottles of beer on the wall. '; subtract:b:b:1; if:b:0:continue:start") 23:00 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: 99 bottles of beer on the wall. 98 bottles of beer on the wall. 97 bottles of beer on the wall. 96 bottles of beer on the wall. 95 bottles of beer on the wall. 94 bottles of beer on the wall. 93 bottles of beer on the wall. 92 bottles of beer on the wall. 91 bottles of beer on the wall. 90 bottles of beer on the wall. 89 bottles of beer on the wall. 88 bottles of beer (8 more messages) 23:00 FreeFull ShadowNinja: #esoteric on this network 23:01 FreeFull harrison: bird used to be brid 23:01 harrison not a spoonerism 23:02 harrison take any brid and put him in a cage... 23:02 kaeza harrison, is that true? 23:02 harrison flutter by? i think so 23:03 harrison early 1800's ? 23:03 kaeza I always though it was referencing a floating milk product 23:04 FreeFull What about ladybird? 23:05 kaeza bidilard? 23:05 FreeFull Why is it named after the Virgin Mary? 23:06 kaeza bidy* 23:06 kaeza :P