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02:37 Vazon hello guys :D
02:40 Vazon anyone got item pick only (part of item drop mod - PilzAdam) on hand?
02:41 iqualfragile Vazon: yes
02:41 iqualfragile but just read his code and delete one half, its easier
02:41 Vazon last time i read into that code its all mixed although it was a bit ago
02:42 ShadowNinja Vazon: cyisfor has a better fork of that.
02:44 Vazon ok :D i will look into it
02:51 Vazon hey is there to make pvp a priv???
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03:01 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks
03:01 thefamilygrog66 zero point four point whatnow?!
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03:05 thefamilygrog66 I guess this means I can program dropdowns into formspecs now - sweet.
03:10 Vazon is that a no?
03:14 * VanessaE is back and quite stuffed
03:14 ShadowNinja Vazon: You need interact for PvP.
03:15 ShadowNinja Vazon: And it might be doable with a mod.
03:15 Vazon ok cool :D
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03:19 Vazon hmmm where can i find this pvp at
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03:25 Vazon also does anyone else have this problem with 0.4.8 where players get a 2 texture after relogging in t oyour server?
03:28 Miner_48er explain?
03:28 Vazon MIner idk how to explain it to see what i mean log on to Minerealms and you will see
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03:47 Susurrus Is lava supposed to destroy blocks that are thrown into it? From what I see, those blocks persist. Any way to destroy blocks in Minetest right now?
03:48 khonkhortisan We are aware of this problem.
03:48 khonkhortisan I think someone made a mod to destroy burnable blocks when dropped into lava.
03:49 khonkhortisan There are inventory mods to add a trash can button, or node.
03:59 Vazon so is anyone going to continue the minegeld mod ???
03:59 Vazon since Dan is banned and all
04:04 Susurrus @khonkhortisan: Sweet, definitely becomes necessary when you've been busy mining a bunch.
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06:31 whodeadeyes Yo
06:31 VanessaE hi
06:31 whodeadeyes So we had a fork
06:31 VanessaE so I saw
06:32 whodeadeyes Don't mind the username, Android Irc is screwy
06:32 VanessaE I use andchat (I think)
06:32 whodeadeyes It's NickServ that's acting up
06:35 whodeadeyes So, xyz, and proller are forked
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06:35 whodeadeyes Yo Wuzzy
06:35 Wuzzy Yo whodeadeyes
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07:18 paramat dyson cube http://i.imgur.com/vzMEcwK.png
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07:28 ruskie heh that dyson cube is nice
07:28 VanessaE yeah but he didn't render it with HDX :P
07:29 VanessaE him and that damn minimal/symbolic texture pack of his ;)
07:30 ruskie hehe
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08:17 artur99 hi
08:17 artur99 whats up?
08:19 artur99 Who did ever watched Mystery shack on disney?
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08:19 artur99 at the end of every series appear this image> http://www.strangekidsclub.com/wp-content/​uploads/2013/05/gravity-falls-decoded.jpg
08:20 artur99 and every symbol on it is on every personages Tshirts
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08:26 artur99 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x2-ptd2jMs
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08:54 rubenwardy Can some one post the following on #minetest-dev? Updated: http://minetest.net/screenshots
08:55 andrew3 is there any difference between the MinGW & MSVC builds for Windows, e.g. in terms of stability, bugs?
08:55 VanessaE done,.
08:55 VanessaE andrew3: no clue there.
08:55 rubenwardy Thanks
08:56 rubenwardy I am no where near a real IRC client, so I have to use webchat
08:56 andrew3 the MSVC build is bold on the download page, is it recommended then? I would rather use MinGW builds though, supporting free software and all
08:58 VanessaE [11-29 03:57] <RealBadAngel> why one of them is different sized?
08:58 VanessaE [11-29 03:58] <RealBadAngel> feel free to post response back ;)
08:58 rubenwardy RealBadAngel: Because it has different dimensions when I uploaded it. I can crop it now, I suspose
08:59 rubenwardy I can see #minetest-dev, I just can not post there
08:59 VanessaE what, nothing showing moretrees? :(
08:59 RealBadAngel was just laughing
08:59 VanessaE you need to use a real irc client to talk in there
08:59 RealBadAngel could you add some background common for all the screenshots?
08:59 rubenwardy I can not download one at the library
08:59 RealBadAngel that would be nicer i think
09:00 rubenwardy I am not sure what you mean
09:00 RealBadAngel kinda frame, that will differ screenshots section
09:00 RealBadAngel maybe grayed out area?
09:01 rubenwardy Do you mean remove the sky, and replace with gray, or make the table bg gray?
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09:05 rubenwardy VanessaE, are there more trees here: http://minetest.net/_detail/para​matmountains.png?id=screenshots
09:06 VanessaE nope.avi
09:06 VanessaE epic mapgen though
09:06 rubenwardy gtg
09:06 rubenwardy I will read log
09:06 VanessaE cya
09:08 thexyz andrew3: msvc build is the recommended one
09:09 andrew3 okay, thanks :)
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09:24 anunakki OldCoder, are you there?
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09:54 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Friday and happy Electronic Greetings Day! :-D
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11:45 sfan5 hi everyone
11:56 Peacock !seen anyone
11:56 MinetestBot Peacock: Sorry, I haven't seen anyone around.
11:56 Peacock been a quiet night :P
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12:01 sfan5 lol http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/co​mments/1rnjev/reddit_what_are_some_s​fw_jokes_i_can_tell_around/cdp63hl
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12:02 Peacock deer lord lol
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12:34 Peacock lol How many engineers does it take to screw in a light bulb? 5. 1 to hold the bulb, and 4 to guzzle beer until the room spins.
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13:02 EvergreenTree Hello everyone!
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13:16 Peacock lol https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7916528896/hBB788567/
13:21 EvergreenTree !title
13:21 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: Document isn't HTML
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13:39 Peacock lol http://youtu.be/mYfDnc42wog
13:47 EvergreenTree !title
13:47 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: How to blow a turkey call. - YouTube
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14:08 Peacock lol http://youtu.be/zdWmMjw0E9A
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14:18 john_minetest Hello everypony
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14:22 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
14:22 john_minetest hey PilzAdam
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14:59 * john_minetest hands a fish over to NekoGloop <'((((<
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15:13 EvergreenTree I may try my hand at an update video, one that is better then that one ginger hunter uploaded
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15:23 OldCoder Hi
15:24 OldCoder anunakki, I am usually asleep by then but hello. BTW somebody wishes to make a new BSDistro.
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15:30 PilzAdam EvergreenTree, s/hand/branch/
15:30 EvergreenTree lol
15:40 john_minetest lol, took me a bit to get that one :P
15:40 john_minetest Seems I am using git too much ^^
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15:47 john_minetest Hey Zeg9
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15:49 anunakki OldCoder,
15:49 OldCoder Zeg9, Hi!
15:49 anunakki i'm here now
15:49 anunakki still
15:49 OldCoder anunakki, I am glad to see you are O.K.
15:49 Zeg9 Hi OldCoder
15:49 anunakki private plz got a few things to speak with you about
15:49 OldCoder sure
15:49 anunakki yea hangin in here man
15:49 anunakki ditto btw
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15:50 Dogzilla131 #minetest-es
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15:52 Dogzilla131 How to you make a server?
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16:00 Sky__ Hello
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16:03 EvergreenTree o/
16:04 Jordach o/
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16:19 Sky__ hey chdorb
16:19 Sky__ do you play linuxgaming.us
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16:21 john_minetest Dogzilla131: There is a guide in the server section on forum.
16:22 Dogzilla131 Ok, thanks
16:23 Dogzilla131 Does a world become public if I put public in the main menu?
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16:26 john_minetest Dogzilla131: "Public" means only , that it will be displayed in the official server list.
16:26 hoodedice so
16:26 hoodedice sup peeps?
16:26 EvergreenTree sup
16:26 john_minetest hoodedice: Some servers are up. And the new sattelite is not up yet :P
16:26 hoodedice =)
16:27 john_minetest 2nd launch try today at 0:30 am, didn't work.
16:27 hoodedice What happened?
16:27 hoodedice Did he fire the reverse thrusters by mistake?
16:29 hoodedice (Lame attempt at lame joke is lame)
16:29 john_minetest The engines fired but were stopped by the launch computer 1 second after T-0 because of strange values.
16:29 hoodedice hmm
16:29 john_minetest Seems that there was too low thrust.
16:29 hoodedice I say
16:29 hoodedice we fork the rocket
16:29 EvergreenTree plol
16:29 john_minetest And we improve it.
16:30 john_minetest Those rocket devs get nothing right.
16:30 hoodedice Indeed
16:30 john_minetest Let's just make major changes to the engine.
16:30 hoodedice "Not rockety enough"
16:30 john_minetest And make improvements everybody wants. Like the self destruct button.
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16:31 hoodedice Lets make the rocket more fun
16:31 Jordach kahrl, it appears one of VanessaE's servers is having this again: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=119533#p119533
16:31 hoodedice Give it a unicorn horn
16:32 hoodedice Anyway, I found out something
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16:33 hoodedice In windows, In My Documents, there's this hidden folder called 'Application Data'
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16:34 hoodedice It takes up about 2 GB per user account, and it's filled with as far as I can see: CRAP
16:34 hoodedice Another reason to hate windows
16:37 thexyz that was a nice joke
16:37 thexyz did you delete it?
16:37 hoodedice ?
16:38 hoodedice That folder? No
16:38 thexyz I think it actually contains, well, application data
16:38 thexyz so deleting it is a bad idea
16:38 hoodedice Indeed, so I thought
16:38 thexyz I'm not sure how Windows works though
16:38 thexyz I think it somehow remaps the writes or something
16:38 thexyz when running as an unprivileged user
16:39 hoodedice But I don't get the point for putting entire apps secretly
16:39 hoodedice in the DARNED C drive
16:39 thexyz so app writes into one directory and stuff actually gets written to another directory
16:39 hoodedice And duplicating then for every user
16:39 john_minetest hoodedice: It looks ugly to have them all public.
16:39 hoodedice Ya
16:40 john_minetest And since on windows you can install stuff for only one user, it is needed that way.
16:40 hoodedice But here I am, with 20 GB free in my other partitions, and barely 1 GB in that C drive
16:40 hoodedice After moving everything near possible : 15 GB
16:41 hoodedice Windows + Program files = 35 GB. and this thing is 20 popping GB
16:41 hoodedice ubuntu has it neater
16:42 reactor Windows is a piece of shit, man.
16:42 hoodedice Everything in phone place
16:42 hoodedice *one
16:42 reactor Deprecate it.
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16:42 reactor markveidemanis: hello Markov chain.
16:42 hoodedice Indeed, I would, if this PC belonged to me only *sigh*
16:43 reactor Why don't you convince other users you're gonna change it for good?
16:44 hoodedice I did switch to xubuntu, but my dad forced me to delete it
16:44 hoodedice =/
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16:45 RealBadAngel format your dad then ;)
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16:46 hoodedice -.-
16:46 RealBadAngel and install something open for him ;)
16:46 hoodedice I would've laughed if the joke wasn't on my dad
16:46 RealBadAngel hehe
16:46 RealBadAngel how old is he?
16:47 hoodedice 40+ something
16:47 hoodedice dunno
16:47 RealBadAngel m$ employee or what?
16:47 hoodedice Civil Engineer?
16:47 hoodedice lol
16:47 Peacock its not nice to flash other people's computers without asking them first :P
16:48 hoodedice Just wants stuff to work, and the GRUB menu to not get into his way
16:48 hoodedice it's the family computer
16:48 Peacock well you should still ask them first :P other people might need their windows only apps
16:49 hoodedice I didn't delete windows
16:49 john_minetest hoodedice: Try running a live CD.
16:49 john_minetest Or a live USB
16:49 hoodedice it just required three presses of the down key within nine seconds of the boot up
16:50 Sky__ john_minetest?
16:50 hoodedice john_minetest: Yeah. But my data ain't saved over reboots
16:50 john_minetest hoodedice: You can store it on the USB key.
16:50 john_minetest *USB stick
16:50 Sky__ john_minetest
16:50 hoodedice hmm
16:50 john_minetest Sky__: Yeah?
16:50 Sky__ do u play on linuxgaming.us
16:50 hoodedice never mind
16:50 john_minetest Sky__: No.
16:51 Sky__ does anyone play on linuxgaming.us?
16:51 hoodedice I'll get my own laptop soon enough
16:51 hoodedice I do
16:51 john_minetest hoodedice: It should be possible to mount the usb stick from the distro you booted from our usb stick
16:51 hoodedice not
16:51 Sky__ hoodedice, is the server down today
16:51 hoodedice Hmm. I'll see into that later
16:51 Sky__ because i cannot join it
16:52 Sky__ Who has SnowLinux?
16:52 john_minetest Nice gif: http://www.nasa.gov/sites/defa​ult/files/ison-survives_0.gif
16:52 hoodedice But it's not a pressing matter now
16:52 john_minetest Sky__:
16:52 Sky__ yea
16:52 john_minetest !up linuxgaming.us
16:52 MinetestBot linuxgaming.us:30000 seems to be down
16:53 Sky__ Oh that sucks when will it be on again, anyone know?
16:53 john_minetest We got a bot for looking if a server is up :)
16:53 Sky__ Thanks
16:53 john_minetest Sky__: Did you check out the forum or the website?
16:53 Sky__ Yea, they have a horrible website...:)
16:54 Sky__ Doesn't tell you anything:)
16:54 Sky__ wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww​wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
16:54 Sky__ Sorry about that
16:54 Sky__ www.linuxgaming.us/
16:54 hoodedice don't flood =)
16:54 Sky__ john_minetest: Do you have linux, I have snow linux:)
16:56 john_minetest Sky__: I don't think that I have ever used that one. Using archlinux.
16:57 john_minetest Sky__: you might get more info about downtime at irc.linuxgaming.us #linuxgaming
16:57 john_minetest http://www.linuxgaming.us/chat.php
16:57 hoodedice john_minetest: Do you think is possible to actually install ubuntu itself into a usb drive?
16:57 john_minetest hoodedice: sure.
16:57 john_minetest live usb. Once did it.
16:57 hoodedice hmm
16:57 john_minetest But ubuntu is horrible in my eyes.
16:57 hoodedice I'll check it out later
16:57 hoodedice I use Xubuntu =)
16:58 fmcd lmde
16:58 hoodedice Don't like ubuntu much myself
16:58 john_minetest Xubuntu is much better.
16:58 john_minetest Ubuntu is just a dumb corporate tool.
16:59 hoodedice Yeah, but it's sorta awesome in itself
17:00 hoodedice I am also, one of the few people who actually like Windows 8
17:00 hoodedice XD
17:00 john_minetest awesome is not awesome :3
17:01 john_minetest i3, dwm and razor-qt+openbox are much cooler than awesome :P
17:01 john_minetest (awesome is the name of a linux window manager)
17:01 hoodedice I think Windows 8 and Mir came out at around the same time
17:01 john_minetest mir is yet another dumb thing.
17:01 hoodedice both were controversial XD I think I got a link here lol
17:01 john_minetest They should support wayland and not do yet another thing.
17:02 hoodedice hmm
17:02 john_minetest In the end they will have their own linux with their own executable format and their own programs.
17:02 hoodedice lol
17:02 john_minetest In they end they will be like MacOS.
17:03 john_minetest *MacOS X
17:03 hoodedice Indeed
17:03 hoodedice But that's what Mark wants
17:03 john_minetest they even have got some kind of "app store"
17:03 hoodedice App store is kinky
17:04 john_minetest App store is shit.
17:04 hoodedice The problem starts with the exclusivity
17:04 hoodedice Nah
17:04 hoodedice they just didn't do it right
17:04 hoodedice Android did it (sorta) right
17:04 john_minetest "app store" means that stuff is like in apple app store and it is not normal to install stuff
17:04 john_minetest outsides
17:05 hoodedice ?? Didn't get ya
17:05 john_minetest android is yet another google spy tool.
17:05 hoodedice indeed
17:05 hoodedice I am on an android atm
17:05 hoodedice XD
17:05 john_minetest "app store" means it is "get it here or die". The best approach are official repos that CAN be used but can be extended easily.
17:06 hoodedice hmm
17:06 hoodedice Isnt that what ubuntu does by default?
17:07 hoodedice we can add repos
17:07 john_minetest Ubuntu goes a quite appstor-y approach.
17:07 john_minetest ppa is crap
17:07 john_minetest AUR is much better.
17:07 hoodedice I think it is better than windows
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17:07 hoodedice And how is this AUR different?
17:07 john_minetest hoodedice: They connect your searches to amazon without asking.
17:07 hoodedice But not in xubuntu
17:07 PilzAdam https://fixubuntu.com/
17:07 hoodedice ?
17:08 john_minetest Ubuntu is becoming a spy tool, now that it is widespread.
17:08 hoodedice lol. That site once got a takedown notice
17:09 john_minetest Imo it is sad that you have to actively CONFIGURE your distro that it doesn't spy on you anymore.
17:09 hoodedice hmm
17:09 hoodedice Capitalism fcks everything my friend
17:09 john_minetest Actually in archlinux I'd have to install tons of packages actively so I can be spied on. And that would be quite difficult to set up.
17:10 hoodedice Lets all go back to Mother Russia
17:10 PilzAdam john_minetest, you just need a browser and use google.com
17:10 john_minetest ok, I could just install chroome.
17:10 hoodedice lol
17:10 john_minetest PilzAdam: no google here
17:10 PilzAdam being spied on is easier than you think
17:10 john_minetest youtube though... not using this is impossible
17:10 hoodedice Just look behind you
17:11 john_minetest I have disabled basically everything in my browser.
17:11 hoodedice TaDa the walls have ears
17:11 khonkhortisan Only one well-vested in the unnatural arts can get the walls to talk back
17:12 hoodedice And then suddenly! Battery low. Later peeps
17:12 john_minetest Trees can see. Else they couldn't become darker in night.
17:12 john_minetest Woah, my walls are watching me, too.
17:13 john_minetest Try this at home: Put the light out -> The walls are hiding in the shadows!
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17:27 rubenwardy Hi all
17:29 EvergreenTree about privacy, that's why I use 12.04 LTS
17:37 * Jordach pokes VanessaE
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18:05 OldCoder Shadows...
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18:22 hoodedice So
18:22 hoodedice john_minetest
18:23 john_minetest
18:23 hoodedice I am in the following situation
18:23 john_minetest {:-§>
18:23 john_minetest yeah?
18:24 hoodedice Let's assume for a moment, that my windows does not work and I have miraculously got into a Unetbootin xubuntu live session
18:24 hoodedice Now, I cannot install deb packages, right?
18:24 john_minetest You should be able to. BUT they will be gone after rebot.
18:24 hoodedice I can? Lemme see...
18:26 hoodedice Well, it did install after
18:26 hoodedice all
18:26 hoodedice Xubuntu fails to not amaze. Thank you, john
18:29 john_minetest Every distro can do that in live mode
18:29 hoodedice Hey, will anything bad happen if I format my USB drive to FAT32 from NTFS?
18:30 john_minetest All data on that drive will be lost after formatting
18:30 john_minetest *when formatting
18:30 hoodedice (Other than that (lol))
18:30 john_minetest Why would you like to do that?
18:30 hoodedice Because long story
18:30 hoodedice and cool one too
18:31 john_minetest shouldn't change much. You just have to look out, I don't know much about linux' file system support
18:31 hoodedice hmm
18:31 hoodedice Thanks
18:31 john_minetest Some was only supported read-only
18:31 john_minetest But not sure
18:36 thexyz why would you use fat32? it doesn't even support files over 4 gb
18:36 thexyz it breaks every now and then
18:37 hoodedice Unetbootin is forcing me to. Live disk to live disk install
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18:38 reactor Y U No Bootin
18:40 john_minetest thexyz: Because it is PHAT.
18:40 john_minetest ;P
18:41 Jordach yay
18:41 Jordach YouTube for 3DS arrived
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18:48 reactor BOЯДT
18:51 ShadowNinja ~later tell rubenwardy I fixed the lighting glitch on my server, you should re-take your screenshot.
18:51 ShadowNinja Er...
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18:55 ShadowNinja ~later tell rubenwardy I fixed the lighting glitch on my server, you should re-take your screenshot.
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19:17 saul__ holo
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19:17 saul__ cxxasfds
19:18 saul__ cual es mi contraseña
19:18 saul__ e
19:21 ShadowNinja Translation: What is my password?
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19:29 Inocudom Is RealBadAngel here?
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19:31 RealBadAngel yup
19:31 Inocudom Will you be able to make a new build of your shaders branch so that the updates can be tested?
19:32 RealBadAngel windows build can make sfan5 or PilzAdam
19:32 Inocudom I will ask them.
19:32 RealBadAngel sfan5, could you?
19:36 Inocudom I asked both PilzAdam and sfan5 in the forums.
19:36 Guest13082 Has anybody managed to get 0.4.8 to build on OSX?
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19:36 Vazon hello everyone
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19:37 Miner_48er hi
19:37 Inocudom Do any of you know about how the development version of Red Eclipse can be downloaded and then played by use of a .bat file?
19:38 Inocudom Without there needing to be an .exe? I think things would be happier around here if Minetest could do that.
19:38 Vazon hmmm im looking for a mod that cuases drop itemsto despawn after a period of time
19:39 Vazon its there a mod like that?
19:39 Miner_48er yes
19:40 Vazon really great :D
19:40 Inocudom Look at this mod: https://forum.minetest.net/vi​ewtopic.php?pid=44499#p44499
19:41 Miner_48er https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3188
19:41 Vazon .... i used to use that mod but then it started chrashing my server with a error about stairs
19:44 ShadowNinja Guest13082: Not to my knowledge, although there have been builds for older versions. We're looking for a OS X maintainer if you can build it. :-)
19:56 Vazon ok if 72 in game time is about 20 min real life what is about 1 hour
19:57 Miner_48er 72 x 3
19:57 Miner_48er 222
20:03 ShadowNinja Vazon: Do you mean time_speed?
20:05 Vazon yes
20:06 Vazon ok thanks miner
20:06 ShadowNinja Vazon: 24 then.
20:06 Vazon so 24 is a hour?
20:07 ShadowNinja Vazon: Yes.
20:07 Vazon ?? but when you go dow nthe time speeds up
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20:16 ShadowNinja Vazon: No, time slows down. 72 = 20m 24 = 60m = 1h.
20:17 Vazon hmm ok maby when i was messing with time i put a type o last time XD thanks for your help Shadow :D
20:18 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Your HDX entry on the mmbd doesn't list all of the mods it supports.
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20:23 Inocudom I am getting the impression that nobody cares about the new animals that AspireMint made for mobf.
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20:29 Sky___ !up LinuxGaming.us
20:29 MinetestBot LinuxGaming.us:30000 is up (291ms)
20:32 john_minetest Inocudom: mobf is too heavy imo.
20:32 john_minetest I prefer simplemobs
20:32 PilzAdam gah, Im sending a dummy reliable packet to a Minetest server (as described in doc/protocol.txt) but I only get garbage as response
20:32 Inocudom But I doubt simple mobs will ever get those animals.
20:33 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Write some protocol docs. :-)
20:33 ShadowNinja (REAL protocol docs, not how to ping a server)
20:34 john_minetest Inocudom: simplemobs has some VERY cool mobs.
20:34 john_minetest It is also a lot faster and less buggy than mobf
20:38 PilzAdam oh, it sends an ACK/CONTROL first
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20:41 Pilcrow hey guys, I know how to make a mod check if a player's inventory contains a particular item, but is there an easy way to check how many of that item are there?
20:44 Pilcrow as in, if a player has 2 full stacks of obsidian and I use contains_item() to check for obsidian, it will return true, but I'm looking for something akin to an item_count() function that will return the number of matching items (in this case 198)...
20:45 PilzAdam it works!
20:46 PilzAdam I can ping Minetest servers from Java now
20:46 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: You have to iterate through the player's inventory manually.
20:46 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Java? Why?
20:46 PilzAdam because its already done in c++, python and php
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21:02 testman And "Clip Public Server" is destroyed. I mean it, helicopter mod allowed fuckers to blow up everything.
21:02 testman Spawn is now giant hole, buildings destroyed, fire everywhere...
21:03 VanessaE disable fire and use the rollback
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21:03 * Calinou is compiling freeminer
21:03 Calinou almost done already... make -j8 :p
21:03 VanessaE Calinou: please add jungle sticks to the 'stick' group.  bit of a row in the technic chat about that.
21:04 Pilcrow thanks @ShadowNinja. not sure I'm doing this right, but I'll figure it out. anyways, gotta go~
21:04 testman how can I get contact of server administrator?
21:05 testman Is there any way to talk to admin except in-game chat?
21:05 VanessaE testman: no clue
21:05 VanessaE each server has their own way of communicating with its admins
21:05 Calinou groups = {stick=1},
21:05 Calinou this?
21:05 VanessaE redcrab's uses the forums, mine uses a common IRC channel, etc.
21:05 VanessaE Calinou: yeah, I guess so
21:06 VanessaE Calinou: the complaint was that junglesticks can't be used to craft tools, which apparently make use of that group
21:06 VanessaE "No, I added the stick group for this. Simply add "groups = {stick=1}," to the item definintion, and then you change "default:stick" to "group:stick" in mods that use the stick for crafting." --ShadowNinja
21:07 Calinou added in stick group
21:09 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix modstore/favourites hang by adding asynchronous lua job support 2e66aca357 2013-11-29T13:09:14-08:00 http://git.io/1gAu4Q
21:09 john_minetest Calinou: What is your minetest buid time?
21:11 john_minetest real0m20.513s
21:11 john_minetest user2m5.833s
21:11 john_minetest sys0m3.740s
21:12 Calinou real1m26.071s
21:12 Calinou user8m17.923s
21:12 Calinou sys0m19.206s
21:12 Calinou john_minetest, make -j8 after doing a make clean
21:12 Calinou do a make clean firzst of course...
21:12 Calinou first*
21:12 john_minetest oh, I forgot
21:13 Calinou let's not waste CPU power for epeen :/
21:13 john_minetest real0m54.377s
21:13 john_minetest user6m19.320s
21:13 john_minetest sys0m12.160s
21:13 john_minetest still faster than you :P
21:13 john_minetest What CPU are you using?
21:14 john_minetest Calinou ^
21:16 Calinou 2600K
21:16 Calinou I was playing enemy territory while compiling, and using mumble
21:16 Calinou both use CPU
21:16 john_minetest Okay, I got one that is a bit newer.
21:16 john_minetest Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz
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21:16 john_minetest No K so no overclocking possible
21:16 Calinou much newer :P
21:16 Calinou you can overclock a bit by turbo
21:16 Calinou if you have an appropriate mobo
21:16 john_minetest Idk how to turbo
21:17 john_minetest mobo should be suitable for turbo
21:18 Calinou turbo is on by default
21:18 Calinou you need a Z-series mobo to change the turbo ratios
21:18 Calinou (I think)
21:19 john_minetest Computer manufacturer said, that it has "Up to 3.9 GHz"
21:19 john_minetest So I guess it has turboboost. Although I can't be sure.
21:19 Calinou that's the max turbo on one core
21:19 Calinou on two cores it's 3.8
21:19 Calinou on three, 3.7
21:19 Calinou on four, 3.6, I think
21:20 Calinou turbo is done when it's allowed by the TDP
21:20 Calinou (on most mobos that are sold in self-built PCs, the turbo is always on, for marketing reasons [for being good at benchmarks])
21:20 Calinou on some mobos, the one-core ratio is even used on all cores by default (and it works well usually)
21:21 john_minetest Actually I don't think it makes much difference.
21:21 john_minetest 30 seconds of compile time between our models... Quite insignificant.
21:23 Calinou 4770 is usually 20% faster than 2600
21:23 john_minetest Hmmm... always those empty promises in dubstep videos. "Turn down your headphone volume, this is going to hurt you."
21:23 john_minetest I had to turn it up to hear anything.
21:23 john_minetest And I have got good ears.
21:24 john_minetest And what kind of beat is that? It changes beat every 30 seconds.
21:25 Calinou freeminer just said "22:24:50: ERROR[main]: Error loading mod "minetest-mod-weather-dynamic": modname does not follow naming conventions: Only chararacters [a-z0-9_] are allowed."
21:25 Calinou lol
21:25 john_minetest lol
21:25 john_minetest weather would be cool
21:25 john_minetest But there are a few things that are just shit with weather:
21:25 Calinou the folder doesn't have anything in it...
21:25 Calinou removed it
21:26 john_minetest Weather should have light according to weather. Snowing or raining should maybe bring darkness-
21:26 john_minetest also rain should be darker and less blue-ish.
21:27 Calinou got a segfault while playing
21:29 john_minetest That comes from pulling all kind of stuff without really testing it.
21:30 john_minetest I think that more stuff should be pulled into minetest but with that I mean that more should be done to check if it works, if it is worth the work and then pull it.
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21:32 Calinou lol, the topic of #freeminer has 2 imgur links and nothing else
21:36 Inocudom What are people's thoughts on the fork of Minetest known as Freeminer?
21:38 Calinou Inocudom, I think it does more good than bad; competition is fine
21:38 Calinou I do not see it as an evil fork
21:38 Calinou especially since freeminer is compatible with Minetest servers and vice-versa
21:38 pitriss Inocudom: it is good thing that they forked MT instead of trying to merge those controversal/half-done mods
21:39 Inocudom Why is there less and less activity in Minetest as the days go by? Servers aren't as active as they used to be and forums are deader than they used to be.
21:39 pitriss s/mods/pull requests/
21:41 Calinou we are close to holidays, remember :)
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21:43 Jordach hello paramat
21:43 paramat o/
21:43 * Jordach hopes paramat isn't a ginger
21:43 paramat is not
21:44 Jordach phew
21:44 Jordach at least you're not my uncle (has virgin media, lives in norwich, good with code)
21:45 Calinou night
21:45 Jordach bb Calinou
21:45 Jordach o/
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21:54 troller Calinou, git clone --recursive
21:57 john_minetest Close #508, it is just yet another annoying open issue that is none.
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21:59 iqualfragile Jordach: are you?
22:00 Jordach no
22:00 Jordach iqualfragile, my uncle is startlingly close to paramat's "appearance"
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22:34 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix old gcc build d02ce1cf4d 2013-11-29T14:36:18-08:00 http://git.io/lBmegQ
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22:39 Inocudom Do any of you know how in Red Eclipse you can just download the latest development version and use the .bat file that comes with it to play it? How is it that Red Eclipse can do that, while Minetest cannot?
22:41 Inocudom People probably think that this question is of no importance whatsoever, but it is. So, don't ignore it.
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22:42 troller how to edit .mts ?
22:45 MinetestBot GIT: VanessaE commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #124 from qwrwed/master 2d0ff5e2ac 2013-11-29T14:44:51-08:00 http://git.io/7sfwgg
22:45 MinetestBot GIT: razk182@gmail.co.uk commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Make blinkyplants toggleable 33de6fad55 2013-11-29T14:06:50-08:00 http://git.io/Iwuyow
22:45 PilzAdam troller, minetest.create_schematic()
22:46 PilzAdam (and minetest.place_schematic())
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22:49 MinetestBot Sky___: Invalid Address
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23:05 sfan5 lol http://z0r.de/3666
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23:36 mrtux I compiled the latest minetest git on archlinux, and something is wrong: http://mrtux.org/minetest.png
23:38 PilzAdam goddammit sfan5!
23:38 sfan5 :D
23:38 PilzAdam http://z0r.de/3105 <- EvergreenTree
23:39 paramat sfan5, cute ^_^
23:41 john_minetest mrtux: testing
23:42 sfan5 wat.. http://z0r.de/3719
23:42 PilzAdam mrtux, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7832
23:42 sfan5 thexyz: http://z0r.de/431 isn't that from hs dxd?
23:43 mrtux assuming its my 1000 year old is the issue
23:43 mrtux and im probably right
23:43 mrtux *1000 year old graphics card
23:45 mrtux my nvidia drivers are the 173.xx version, latest from aur.
23:45 sfan5 if your graphics card is old 173.xx are probably not the right drivers
23:46 mrtux i've tried newer drivers a while back (when i installed arch in feburary) and none worked on my system except 173.xx
23:46 Exio4 it seems like an archlinux problem tho
23:47 mrtux my card is a geforce fx 5200. pc dell dimension 4600
23:47 Exio4 debian sid here, upgraded this monday, compiled 30 min ago and it works
23:48 mrtux ah
23:48 mrtux wow, more excuses for me to switch to gentoo
23:48 mrtux i'll try a recompile
23:48 Exio4 yes, archlinux sucks, that isn't very new
23:49 Exio4 (unless you need a fast site for having the last-from-git or as a testing distro)
23:50 mrtux i tried the irrlicht demo (quake one), says opengl 2.1.2 and 100 fps wooo
23:51 mrtux so clearly this must be a minetest issue
23:51 Exio4 archlinux's issue
23:51 mrtux ah yeah sorry
23:51 Exio4 it works for everyone but some people using archlinux
23:51 Exio4 weird eh?
23:51 mrtux no, not at all. arch sucks :)
23:54 john_minetest http://z0r.de/3778 <- lol

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