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00:22 iqualfragile Vazon: what techniqeu do you use to distribute media to your clients?
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00:36 OranginaRouge hello
00:37 OranginaRouge there is no french channel?
00:40 NakedFury I dont think so
00:42 OranginaRouge ok
00:42 OranginaRouge maybe i'll clear enough
00:42 OranginaRouge in fact i just started to play
00:43 OranginaRouge and i don't understand how to use the furnace
00:43 OranginaRouge when i left click, what should i put ? fuel on the left ? if i want glass from sand, how to do so ?
00:44 NakedFury place fuel on the left
00:44 NakedFury then add the blocks you want to smelt on top of it
00:45 NakedFury left side has 2 slots. the top slot is for the block you want to process and the lower slot is for fuel types
00:46 NakedFury all right side slots are for the item just created
00:46 OranginaRouge ok great i'll try
00:46 OranginaRouge thanks
00:46 OranginaRouge ok
00:46 NakedFury no problem
00:46 OranginaRouge then i've seen that we should wait a specific time, depending of things to smelt
00:47 OranginaRouge how to know how much time left?
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00:49 NakedFury no idea really. they take longer depending on item to smelt?
00:49 NakedFury truly did not know that then
00:49 NakedFury I do know what you use as Fuel matters since some have more uses than others
00:50 OranginaRouge yes, here we have burning time : http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Smelting
00:51 OranginaRouge ohok
00:52 OranginaRouge oh ok*
00:52 OranginaRouge i just tried, it's ok
00:52 OranginaRouge greeeeaaaaaat !
00:52 OranginaRouge i like this game !
00:53 NakedFury its getting better each new release
00:57 OranginaRouge for me it's the first one ! :-)
00:58 OranginaRouge first evening playing it
01:14 * Kacey needs some ideas for xytest...
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01:34 * Kacey is out of ideas...
01:34 NakedFury for what?
01:35 Kacey xytest
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02:09 NakedFury well what theme do you have for xytest?
02:09 Kacey right now... just decorative stuff
02:09 Kacey and a couple ores
02:09 Kacey https://github.com/Kaceyproductions/xytest
02:10 NakedFury but what do you plan for it? a sort of fantasy theme for future things or go the RBA tekkit path?
02:10 NakedFury that helps when looking for ideas
02:10 Kacey im thinking just make things that look goodnow, and once i get more experience, make some technical things...
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03:34 Kacey *cricket noises*
03:34 Kacey *tumbleweed*
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03:35 Inocudom I saw something about RealBadAngel doing a rework of his shaders.
03:37 VanessaE yes
03:37 VanessaE his latest rework works pretty good for me
03:37 VanessaE he's left the sparking/rippling water for later
03:37 VanessaE for now he's working on the base stuff.
03:38 Inocudom Yes, it is important to get the base stuff working first.
03:38 VanessaE waving water, waving grass/plants/leaves, better ighting on light sources, etc.
03:40 Inocudom Out of curiousity, I recently started looking at another open source sandbox game known as Terasology. As it stands, it is still in pre-alpha, but they are attempting multiplayer.
03:41 Inocudom The game does prove that good shaders can work in voxel-based games.
03:42 Inocudom It also proves that mesh nodes are not impossible.
03:44 VanessaE *nod*
03:44 VanessaE RBA gets a lot of ideas from there
03:44 VanessaE shaders-wise
03:44 Inocudom As he should.
03:44 Inocudom The game also has dynamic shadows, but there is no way my computer could run that and Java.
03:46 Inocudom A weakness of the game is that it uses Java, which is somewhat slow and can have security issues. Rarkenn's clone of Minetest will have Java, and a future version of Zelda Classic could.
03:47 Inocudom Colored lightrays seem to be possible in Terasology too, which is hopefull.
03:50 VanessaE maybe
03:50 VanessaE colored light sources are apparently a hard problem.
03:51 Inocudom I learned that PilzAdam plays Terasology sometimes. He even said so in a forum post once.
03:54 Inocudom oOChainLynxOo was on Redcrab's server yesterday. He posted a new Minetest video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c553kyFbCg8&​feature=share&list=UUGBOAQUgqCUtDA-4L4mHVzA
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04:54 RealBadAngel colored lights were already done in the past
04:54 RealBadAngel i even saw video of it
04:54 RealBadAngel but i think that code for it is gone
04:55 VanessaE long gone
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05:07 thexyz should try emailing the guy
05:09 VanessaE waste of time.
05:09 VanessaE it's been rather vocally decided that colored light sources will never be added.
05:11 RealBadAngel never say never :P
05:12 VanessaE never. :P
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05:34 thexyz ShadowNinja: what's the state of sqlite rollback?
05:35 VanessaE thexyz: I use it, it's insanely fast
05:35 VanessaE but I can't be 100% sure it works correctly.
05:36 thexyz cool beans
05:38 VanessaE on a different note...
05:39 VanessaE today I mourn the death of an old friend - the traditional 3.5" floppy drive.
05:41 VanessaE something cooked the circuitry in my motherboard that handles suspend/resume, and also damaged its SATA ports to some minor degree, forcing me to upgrade the mobo.  the new one has no floppy interface.  first x86 PC I've ever (re)assembled that didn't have a floppy drive in it.
05:42 * Kacey peeks in
05:44 VanessaE BOO!
05:45 Kacey hi
05:47 * Kacey is thinking of overclocking an xbox 360 for the lulz
05:48 VanessaE oh sure, and get a RRoD that much faster? :P
05:48 Kacey naw.
05:48 Kacey this one is getting JTAG'ed once i get my new one this christmas
05:50 VanessaE gutsy move
05:50 Kacey why do you say that?
05:51 VanessaE because JTAG implies you intend to re-flash the firmware.
05:51 Kacey yeah
05:51 VanessaE not hard to brick the machine, and a 360 isn't exactly cheap
05:52 VanessaE (well, as I define "cheap")
05:52 Kacey if it gets bricked, ooh well. it is as old as a 360 can get
05:55 * Kacey goes back to raging at the cops in gta online
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05:57 VanessaE ha
06:00 VanessaE bbl, bedtime
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06:15 RealBadAngel https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1024
06:16 RealBadAngel for those want to try the shaders, it seems to be final version
06:16 RealBadAngel sfan5, are you here?
06:20 sfan5 RealBadAngel: yes
06:20 Kacey nighy all
06:20 Kacey night*
06:23 RealBadAngel sfan5, can you make a build from https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest ?
06:23 RealBadAngel this gonna be propably last test build
06:33 sfan5 sure
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06:41 sfan5 RealBadAngel: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/minetest-​0.4.8-4f246f0-rba-shader-win32.7z
06:48 RealBadAngel sfan5, thx
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07:18 VanessaE well that was pointless... as usual.
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07:26 hoodedice http://i.imgur.com/d8UP08y.png
07:26 hoodedice I was bored.
07:26 hoodedice Don't kill me for liking Metro UI
07:28 thexyz what's this?
07:29 hoodedice NS Newgen
07:32 VanessaE *shudder*
07:33 thexyz are you using xp?
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07:40 hoodedice Ah yes
07:40 hoodedice 4 GB is too less of RAM for 7 and 8 is too expensive
07:40 hoodedice (Because it is new)
07:41 hoodedice (See the minetest icon)
07:50 thexyz I thought it runs okay on 4 gb of ram
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09:10 VanessaE bbl
09:11 Calinou hi
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09:33 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Pins and Needles Day! :-D
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09:41 deltib has anyone else noticed re-captchas lately seem to have pictures of people's house number?
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09:50 reactor OldCoder: o/
09:50 thexyz deltib: yes, we're helping the botnet
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10:49 VanessaE RealBadAngel: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=119823#p119823
10:50 RealBadAngel told ya that i hate you, right? ;)
10:50 VanessaE lol
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10:51 RealBadAngel shaders off before creating inv image
10:51 RealBadAngel i just forgot bout it
10:52 RealBadAngel on the other hand i have no idea why it was workin previously
10:53 RealBadAngel shouldnt from the very start
10:53 VanessaE maybe it never did :)
10:53 VanessaE I only noticed tody
10:53 VanessaE today*
10:53 RealBadAngel me too
10:54 RealBadAngel just after i got build from sfan, added stuff, zipped and uploaded
10:54 reactor RealBadAssGel: how's the science?
10:55 RealBadAngel reactor, do you ask for ban or what?
10:56 RealBadAngel either way gtfo
10:58 VanessaE also, an idea:   add a multiplier to the shaders' movement that can be called upon from a node def.
10:59 VanessaE so that e.g. a stiff plant waves less than, say, grass
10:59 RealBadAngel theyre both plantlike
10:59 VanessaE I guess it would need a different shader routine then
10:59 VanessaE nevermind :P
11:00 RealBadAngel on the other hand, lets have basics in
11:00 VanessaE *nod*
11:00 RealBadAngel later on we can fine tune it
11:00 VanessaE fix that distortion-in-the-inventory issue ad push it
11:00 VanessaE and*
11:00 RealBadAngel i will do that later today, after work
11:00 VanessaE ok
11:01 RealBadAngel meanwhile, lets folks test the build
11:01 VanessaE well fix the distortion first
11:01 RealBadAngel i even added there mercury rain as main menu score ;)
11:01 VanessaE it makes it *very* hard to actually test
11:01 RealBadAngel not really
11:02 VanessaE trust me.
11:02 VanessaE it did.
11:02 RealBadAngel just missing visual, or shifted
11:02 VanessaE yup
11:02 RealBadAngel and it only affects inv
11:02 RealBadAngel not the gameplay
11:02 VanessaE which makes it hard to tell items apart when they're shifted all the way off of the inventory slot :)
11:03 RealBadAngel i propably know why was that
11:03 RealBadAngel i changed timer
11:03 RealBadAngel before it started with zero, or close
11:03 VanessaE right
11:03 VanessaE and now it's whatever
11:03 VanessaE so the image will be shifted way over
11:04 RealBadAngel so images were pretty close to what they should be
11:04 RealBadAngel yup
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11:04 VanessaE yep, sure enough
11:04 RealBadAngel i will just insert disable shaders before and enable after
11:04 VanessaE I just looked again, they're shifted, but now in a different direction
11:04 VanessaE so it's timer-dependent
11:04 RealBadAngel yeah
11:06 * VanessaE waits for the fix...
11:06 VanessaE ;)
11:08 RealBadAngel not sooner than today's evenin
11:08 VanessaE ok
11:08 VanessaE I gotta get some sleep soon anyway
11:08 VanessaE oh btw:
11:08 RealBadAngel and im goin to work in less than an hour
11:09 VanessaE the new motherboard went in today.  works well, but had to back down to 14GB of RAM because of this weird "Sideport" feature the onboard video has.   it can suspend properly now, and my SSD actually works fine too.
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11:13 VanessaE meanwhile, I'm going back to bed.
11:13 VanessaE third time's the charm.. :-/
11:13 VanessaE night
11:16 RealBadAngel night
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12:08 thexyz sfan5: does tab_playerlist2 work?
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12:31 Leoneof why i'm here O_o
12:31 Leoneof :o
12:31 Leoneof :\
12:31 Leoneof :]
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13:18 rubenwardy Hi all
13:18 rubenwardy Started writing this https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/7675464
13:18 rubenwardy OS is open survey, and is basically real life maps
13:18 rubenwardy ordinate survey, sorry
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13:53 paramat Peacock, hmmmm, dyson cube in progress http://i.imgur.com/zAugq1U.png
13:56 Peacock not bad
13:56 Peacock though i see you're having lighting issues on some of the planes
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13:57 paramat yes shadows will be glitchy, we need shadow decay
13:59 paramat shadows will either be glitchy or will completely black out chunks depending on whether you generate upwards or downwards
14:00 Peacock i guess some sort of hourglass figure wouldn't help
14:00 paramat thats why the original vrealm was orientated with south as up, as to be a twilight realm where sun and moon circle on the horizon
14:02 paramat indeed, neither do hills
14:02 Peacock well thats one thing blender does right, you define your light sources yourself in that
14:03 paramat i still like the buggy lightweight MT lighting though
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14:05 paramat because i used the same 3D perlin noises for all 4 vrealms here, the biomes and terrain is actually continuous around corners
14:05 paramat just a small test 5x5 chunks :)
14:06 Peacock ive found lighting to be a pain in the ass for the past 3 years lol though admittedly, ive always built very big
14:06 paramat in the corner looking down http://i.imgur.com/NXVgUaO.png
14:08 Peacock i wonder what people would build on those heh, kinda reminds me of vulcan on star trek (09)
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14:12 paramat crumbs i must remind people to disable cavegen 8/
14:13 Peacock yeah when i tried to spawn a life-size DS9 i forgot to turn off the cavegen lol
14:13 Peacock couple of hours of wasted time lol
14:14 Peacock i never could get a full screenshot of that when it was complete, FPS went to 0 long before i could load 2/3's of it
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14:28 OldCoder reactor, o/ back. 6:27am here. Headed to office. I will update Pripyat and clone it when you wish.
14:28 OldCoder Other worlds are waiting for interested parties
14:29 reactor Good.
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14:56 sfan5 thexyz: no
14:56 thexyz what exactly doesn't work?
14:57 sfan5 http://irc.minetest.ru/minet​est-dev/2013-11-23#i_3450490
14:59 thexyz hmmm..
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15:13 Megaf Hi all
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15:38 Megaf man, there are tons of mods that attempt to index a nil value
15:39 Megaf pyramids and mobs are the latest two I found
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15:41 Peacock error logs or it didn't happen
15:41 Megaf http://paste.debian.net/68054
15:41 Peacock which mobs mod?
15:42 Megaf PilzAdam
15:42 Megaf but that may be caused by I change I did in that mod
15:43 Megaf I commented the lines of that fire throwing monster, to disable him
15:43 Megaf because I'm not using the fire mod either
15:43 Peacock so whats on your line 415?
15:43 Peacock can you pastebin the init lua too
15:45 ShadowNinja thexyz: It works well. It gives results in less than half a second on all but the biggest rollback logs (2GB or so), it doesn't hog memory, and the SQLite DB is aproximately a third of the size. (It gets better the bigger the DB is)
15:45 Megaf at line 415 there's something related to fire
15:46 ShadowNinja thexyz: After some review and squashing I think it's ready to merge.
15:46 Peacock so...                                        if minetest.registered_nodes[n].groups.flammable or math.random(1, 100) <= 30 then
15:46 Peacock ?
15:46 Megaf Peacock, lol, I disabled the wrong monster
15:47 Peacock squash is good, artichokes are better
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15:48 reactor OldCoder: communist party?
15:48 Megaf PilzAdam told me about the dm monster that uses fire, so I disabled the dirt master
15:48 Megaf in reality, I should have disabled the dungeon master
15:49 Peacock neuter the dungeon master, you'll get a dungeon eunuch
15:50 reactor You could just disable fire.
15:50 OldCoder reactor, Hi
15:50 reactor o/
15:51 OldCoder reactor, what about communist party?
15:51 reactor 20:28 < OldCoder> Other worlds are waiting for interested parties
15:51 OldCoder Ah!
15:51 OldCoder No; more like "Party Down!"
15:51 Megaf reactor, That's why I did, but when the monster tries to use fire, the server crashes
15:51 OldCoder ^ U.S. Idiom
15:51 reactor ?
15:51 reactor OldCoder: but Pripyat has got none yet, too!
15:51 reactor Megaf: oh!
15:51 OldCoder No parties?
15:51 OldCoder Put cake in there
15:51 OldCoder Is there a Party Mod?
15:52 reactor A cake?
15:52 reactor How about some neurotoxin?
15:52 reactor And incinerators?
15:52 OldCoder Ah well
15:52 OldCoder I suppose Pripyat will not be a Party Town Get Down
15:53 OldCoder Dance With Me Peggy Sue All Night Long
15:53 reactor A party in such a haunted place?
15:53 OldCoder Indeed
15:53 reactor That would be off.
15:53 OldCoder Off is normal sometimes
15:53 OldCoder Hmm
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15:53 OldCoder reactor, it will make a fine Halloween World
15:53 john_minetest Hello everykitten
15:53 reactor john_minetest: EHLO
15:53 reactor OldCoder: when was Halloween?
15:54 john_minetest reactor, 11/11
15:54 OldCoder reactor, It is at the end of October but see the movie "Nightmare Before Christmas"
15:54 OldCoder Christmas can be spooky too
15:54 john_minetest 31th october
15:54 john_minetest *
15:54 reactor Okay.
15:55 reactor Well, idk.
15:55 OldCoder http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/nightmare-before-chris​tmas/images/25871934/title/jack-sally-meant-fanart
15:55 Peacock i dont celebrate halloween anymore, one year i went as the naked chef, i got 400 hours of community service :(
15:55 Megaf reactor, Peacock, done, I think I did everything well now
15:55 OldCoder reactor, ^ Jack and Sally will live there
15:55 reactor Megaf: \m/
15:55 john_minetest OldCoder: Nightmare before christmas seems to be a cool film. I should get it and watch it.
15:55 OldCoder john_minetest, Indeed
15:56 OldCoder A bit weak with one plot thread but actually not bad
15:56 reactor OldCoder: I don't know what you mean.
15:56 OldCoder reactor, Jack and Sally are characters from Nightmare Before Christmas
15:56 OldCoder You have created a world that is suitable for them
15:56 OldCoder They are lovers who would be happy to party there
15:56 reactor As you wish.
15:57 reactor I must have seen the film, because I remember something like that.
15:57 reactor A long ago.
15:57 Megaf !up megaf.co.vu 30003
15:57 MinetestBot megaf.co.vu:30003 is up (311ms)
15:57 OldCoder http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2012/24​6/a/e/jack_and_sally__nightmare_before_ch​ristmas_by_blackcatwhitestar-d4vifbh.png
15:58 harrison i liked zero the ghostdog
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16:28 reactor OldCoder: so I think it's a good idea.
16:28 reactor But how are you gonna implement it?
16:29 OldCoder reactor, I was half-joking but perhaps in the live copy of the world I could add artwork or skins
16:29 OldCoder skins would work
16:29 reactor mk
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16:46 markveidemanis HI
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16:51 reactor o/
16:57 Megaf one more nil value Peacock http://paste.debian.net/68065/
16:59 Calinou hi
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17:03 Megaf Vazon, are you the Vazon I know? Who used to play on my server?
17:03 Vazon VanessaE are you there cuase im needing some asistance
17:03 Vazon Yes i am Megaf :)
17:05 Vazon how are you btw Megaf?
17:06 Megaf Vazon, I'm fine, thanks, And you? My server is doing pretty wel to, I migrated it to London/England
17:06 Megaf Now people have even less lag
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17:07 Jordach <3 england
17:07 Vazon well thats good my server was doing great till last night when my linux chrashed and i have lost everything :/ and i need soem help reinstalling it lol
17:07 Vazon some*
17:07 Megaf Vazon, what happened?
17:07 Jordach Vazon, was is a old style disk drive or a new fangled ssd
17:08 Jordach if it's the ssd, there's no hope
17:08 Megaf Linux don't really just crash, unless it's Ubuntu
17:08 Megaf then it will certainly crash
17:09 Megaf I rather use Windows Vista on a Virtual PC virtual machine running on windows ME than use Ubuntu
17:09 Jordach trolololololol
17:09 Vazon well i was going to help MilesDyson on his website so i had to install a few things and then when my computer froze (running like 15 firefox browers, a minetest server and playing on that server cuased it to freeze) so when i tried to restart Ubuntu it wouldnt load i get a error so im going to reinstall it
17:10 john_minetest Ububtu sucks. A lot of distros suck.
17:10 john_minetest Well, not nearly as much as ubuntu.
17:10 Vazon Windows sucks XD and im having t ouse it for the time being
17:10 Megaf Hah, Ubuntu
17:10 Megaf that explains all
17:11 Megaf Vazon, ok, just use a Debian LiveDVD
17:11 Megaf than run fsck on your ubuntu partition
17:11 Jordach >Debian
17:11 harrison ubuntu is a swahili word meaning "i suck"
17:11 Megaf then*
17:11 john_minetest I had to use windows for a few months. It was ugly but still better than ubuntu.
17:11 Jordach >DEBIAN
17:11 Jordach enjoy your stability
17:11 harrison i recommend siduction
17:11 harrison ++sid
17:11 john_minetest >DEBIAN (non-sid)
17:11 john_minetest enjoy your outdated stuff with backported fixes
17:12 Vazon lol well this will ne a long day failling at installing Debian lol
17:12 Vazon brb
17:12 harrison failling at speling too
17:16 Vazon lol back ....harrison -.-
17:16 harrison i can haz clevvar!
17:18 john_minetest harrison!
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17:18 Vazon i having to deal with all of this crap ...ugh
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17:22 Vazon Megaf you mind helping me with this??
17:22 Megaf Vazon, ok, just use a Debian LiveDVD
17:22 Megaf than run fsck on your ubuntu partition
17:23 Megaf Vazon, Or you formated your PC already?
17:23 Vazon thats what im trying to do lol
17:23 Megaf Vazon, ok, so, you want the link to download the LiveDVD?
17:23 Vazon yes but i dont have a cd to do it on i have to use a flash
17:24 Megaf ok
17:24 Megaf Vazon, insert a usb thumb drive
17:24 Megaf then, with dmesg see what devices it is
17:24 Megaf then, umount it, like umount /dev/sdb*
17:25 Megaf then, curl http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian-cdim​age/7.2.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debi​an-live-7.2-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso > /dev/sdb
17:25 Megaf this will download the iso and "burn" it directly to the usb drive
17:25 Megaf IF the drive is /dev/sdb
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17:27 Calinou hi Vazon
17:27 Megaf PilzAdam, Hi there
17:27 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
17:27 Calinou <Megaf> Hah, Ubuntu
17:27 Vazon so put flash drive that click safe eject and burn the iso to rash?
17:27 Calinou <Megaf> that explains all
17:27 Megaf PilzAdam, Im using your mobs mod without fire mod
17:28 Calinou ubuntu hate is justr bad
17:28 Calinou -r
17:28 Vazon hello Calinou :D
17:28 john_minetest ubuntu is just bad.
17:28 * Megaf glad to find more ubuntu haters here
17:28 Jordach i just use mint and get away from the hate
17:28 Jordach except i use xfce4
17:29 Vazon im still a linux noob i did nt knowhow bad it was :P
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17:29 Jordach aww
17:29 Megaf Vazon, or you use the command I gave you
17:29 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/B82D3gR.png
17:29 Megaf or you download the iso first
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17:29 Vazon ok
17:29 Megaf and then use like dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb
17:30 Calinou mint is protected from the hate because of ignore
17:30 Calinou ignorance, and because it is "swag"
17:30 Megaf Mint used to be cool
17:30 Megaf and it's an Irish distro
17:30 Calinou made by a french guy who is like "I tried to upgrade and it ate my 15 PPAs! IT SUX"
17:30 thexyz just use ubuntu and https://fixubuntu.com/
17:31 thexyz it just-fucking-works
17:31 Calinou or xubuntu/kubuntu/lubuntu
17:31 Calinou they are said to be more stable
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17:31 Megaf Calinou, problem with Ubuntu is... Everything
17:31 Calinou too easy to use?
17:31 harrison ubuntu is a swahili word meaning "i suck"
17:31 john_minetest thexyz: Archlinux isn't that hard. (I installed gentoo as my first distro [and failed].)
17:31 thexyz no you don't need *buntus
17:31 Megaf Debian 7.2 is as easy to use as Ubuntu
17:32 harrison siduction i tells ya
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17:32 thexyz well just install whatever you like
17:32 Megaf and rock solid
17:32 thexyz if you like outdated packages use debian
17:32 thexyz if you like a system which breaks after every update use arch
17:32 john_minetest thexyz: except sid
17:32 Megaf O would say tested and stable packages
17:32 Calinou debian 7.2 is not as easy to use at all
17:32 john_minetest systemd doesn't break stuff.
17:32 thexyz if you like to spend hours recompiling libreoffise choose gentoo
17:32 rubenwardy Hi all!
17:32 Megaf Calinou, My grandma uses Debian 7.2
17:32 thexyz if you want a botnet choose ubuntu
17:33 Calinou the install process is clearly longer, the installer doesn't use native resolution, there is NO NON-FREE FIRMWARE by default (except with unofficial ISOs)...
17:33 Megaf so my girlfriend does
17:33 thexyz so many options yet you can't make a choice
17:33 john_minetest archlinux <3
17:33 Jordach i can get started with arch, but really cannot be arsed to sort it
17:33 Calinou also they don't support UNetbootin to "burn" the ISO to an USB drive (it's 2013)
17:33 PilzAdam your distro sucks, the one I use is better
17:33 Jordach fuck off kde fanboi
17:33 harrison PilzAdam: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop
17:33 thexyz what? you need unetbootin?
17:33 thexyz dd master race right here
17:33 Calinou there is no dd on windows
17:33 Megaf Calinou, whats wrong in using dd to burn the iso?
17:33 Vazon wow i come asking for help and  everyoen starts ranting on al lthe linux distros XD
17:34 PilzAdam harrison, what makes you feel like that?
17:34 Megaf Calinou, yes there is man
17:34 thexyz Calinou: there actually is
17:34 thexyz but I get your point
17:34 Calinou not user friendly at all
17:34 thexyz on windows it isn't
17:34 Calinou especially since you need fairly shady windows ports
17:34 john_minetest I always use dd for my usb sticks
17:34 thexyz Vazon: just install ubuntu
17:34 harrison Can you tell me more about that. PilzAdam?
17:34 Megaf Calinou, well, let's say idiots can't use dd
17:34 thexyz Vazon: and don't listen to the shit those fanatics say
17:35 PilzAdam harrison, can _you_ tell me more about that?
17:35 thexyz (now I look so smart compared to them!)
17:35 Megaf thexyz, I'm not even a Linux fan
17:35 * harrison winces at the inappropriate language use
17:35 Calinou let's not fight
17:35 Vazon i had Ubuntu and it chrashed and lost everything
17:35 thexyz =(
17:35 Megaf I'm a BeOS/HaikuOS fan
17:35 Calinou it is not due to Ubunt
17:35 john_minetest Megaf: Idiots use "dd if=fiile of=/dev/sda"
17:35 Calinou people should stop thinking their is OS the cause and instead THINK properly
17:35 john_minetest Nice new boot sector
17:35 Megaf john_minetest, heh, I did that once
17:35 harrison Vazon, you know that poor sperring as an index to mental demangement
17:35 Calinou this is why dd is unfriendly
17:35 Megaf john_minetest, because after that, I got no system to use
17:36 Vazon what harrison???
17:36 john_minetest Megaf: I used that command once. But it was legit since I used it to install syslinux properly with GPT
17:36 Megaf Vazon, so, im telling you to use Debian just to fix your Ubuntu
17:36 john_minetest use knoppix to fix ubuntu :D
17:36 thexyz john_minetest: why not grub?
17:37 Megaf thexyz, coz GPT, thats why
17:37 thexyz alright
17:37 thexyz *grub2
17:37 Calinou this is also why *buntus are better, you can use them as full OSes
17:37 Calinou you can't with debian
17:37 thexyz and no need to be picky about versions, what I'm talking about is pretty understandable
17:37 thexyz Calinou: what do you mean?
17:37 john_minetest thexyz: Always problems with grub. I actually never got grub to run on any of my PCs.
17:38 Vazon the burning whats to go to a disk not the flash
17:38 rubenwardy Windows Bob is the best OS ever!
17:38 Calinou if you need to fix your OS, you can't use a debian install ISO
17:38 Calinou you can with a ubuntu one
17:38 Calinou john_minetest, never had problems with grub here, I always hide it anyway
17:38 thexyz john_minetest: strange, I've never experienced any issue with grub
17:38 rubenwardy I love playing ET: the game on my windows bob computer
17:38 john_minetest you can use a knoppix iso. which is debian derivate.
17:38 thexyz Calinou: because debian never breaks <3
17:38 Calinou both BIOS/MBR and BIOS/GPT
17:38 Calinou john_minetest, needs another USB drive
17:39 thexyz you should also have sysresccd on you
17:39 john_minetest grub didn't boot at all
17:39 thexyz s/also/always/
17:39 harrison If you are ashamed of your grub Calinou then please do hide it others do not want to have your grub thrust on them.
17:39 thexyz then you did something wrong, it's extremely user friendly
17:39 thexyz harrison: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop
17:40 harrison no ur
17:40 thexyz sfan5: do we have a command for this in the bot?
17:40 john_minetest I installed grub as in the manual. Nothing. syslinux is just "pull dat stuff in the folder, run archlinux-specific install command, u r done"
17:40 thexyz like !nobully harrison
17:40 Megaf rubenwardy, heh, windows bob, I had never actually used it
17:40 sfan5 no
17:40 rubenwardy Me neither#
17:40 thexyz john_minetest: and grub2 is just "run grub2-install"
17:41 john_minetest strange
17:41 Vazon btw guys why is Dan Duncombe banned???? im just wonderign cuase i use 1 of his mods
17:41 * harrison wistfully yearns for the,09 memehopper to appear
17:41 sfan5 Vazon: blanking posts
17:42 Vazon ??? may i ask what that is
17:42 rubenwardy I dont see why they do it. They have nothing to gain, other than annoying everyone.
17:42 thexyz that's when you ragequit
17:42 thexyz and delete everything you've posted on forums
17:42 sfan5 replacing the entire posts content with something like '.' or 'no content' etc.
17:42 john_minetest blanking posts is the wrong way. By blanking posts you don't annoy the ones who pissed you off. Instead you piss off those who like you and your work.
17:43 thexyz john_minetest: you also piss off mods so I can see the point
17:43 Megaf Im downloading ET Legacy right now
17:43 john_minetest thexyz, ?
17:43 Vazon o ok i was just wondering
17:43 thexyz john_minetest: moderators
17:43 Megaf lets see how well will it perform on this old lappy
17:43 rubenwardy A more effective way of annoying those who pissed you off is tracking them down and murdering them with a blunt spoon.
17:44 rubenwardy Hi, Jordach
17:44 Vazon O.O ruben
17:44 john_minetest thexyz: Mods are normally not responsible for people ragequitting.
17:44 thexyz rubenwardy: takes too much effort
17:44 thexyz john_minetest: indeed but this still pisses them off (or at least me)
17:45 thexyz TIME TO BUY LTC THEY'RE RISING LIKE SHIT
17:45 Vazon i will jsut wait for VanessaE to help me wit hthis she has helped me with this on more than one occation
17:45 john_minetest what's LTC?
17:45 rubenwardy Laptop computer?
17:45 rubenwardy A company?
17:45 thexyz litecoin
17:46 harrison if you had one, john_minetest, maybe you could buy a clue
17:46 thexyz and bitcoin is over 1k$
17:46 rubenwardy If I had bought a bitcoin a year ago (which I looked at) I would have made £300
17:47 rubenwardy Profit, not turnover
17:47 thexyz and you were laughing at those "retards" spending electricity on useless shit
17:47 john_minetest yep
17:47 harrison yes, and one can observe the vapid stares and empty gawks of the erstwhile doubters of bitcoin
17:47 * harrison wonders if they saw what he did there
17:48 thexyz you've already told us
17:48 harrison empty gawks
17:48 thexyz yes, like the last time
17:48 harrison you try writing fresh material
17:48 Vazon brb guys
17:48 thexyz no offense here
17:48 harrison at least i am quoting myself
17:49 john_minetest Eating fine nuremberg gingerbread. Linux version (14% nuts and KERNELS). ;)
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17:52 reactor member hopper?
18:00 harrison was it baked in a gas oven?
18:01 reactor Yeah! Bake orange juice!
18:13 reactor harrison: What's the deal with control-[?
18:13 reactor Rather, control-].
18:13 reactor Isn't it Escape?
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18:14 Vazon back
18:14 reactor Uh... wb?
18:17 Vazon wow its quite it now
18:18 Megaf Vazon, so
18:19 Megaf did you manage to boot Debian LiveDVD?
18:19 Vazon no it will not burn to the drive just a cd
18:19 Megaf Vazon, hm, I do that all the time
18:19 Megaf perhaps you missed something
18:19 Vazon it doesnt give me the opion
18:19 Vazon here  hold on
18:20 john_minetest Vazon: you can boot from usb stick
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18:21 Megaf john_minetest, thats what we are trying to do
18:21 Vazon yes john that is what i am trying to do but the iso will not burn to the usb
18:21 Megaf john_minetest, but perhaps his computer will not allow that
18:21 Megaf ah
18:21 john_minetest Vazon: Which OS are you on?
18:22 Vazon windows 7
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18:22 john_minetest Vazon,: Try that one:  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/unive​rsal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
18:22 john_minetest Download is www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-​Installer/Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.1.exe
18:23 john_minetest it worked for me every time
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18:24 Megaf Vazon, try this http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/tools​/win32-loader/stable/win32-loader.exe
18:24 Megaf its a debian tool
18:24 Vazon ok what do i do with it lol
18:24 john_minetest the live usb installer which I linked works on win7 and allows every distro.
18:25 Megaf download that exe and run it
18:25 Vazon running it now
18:25 john_minetest I have win7 so I know it runs and works
18:25 Vazon begin installer or recover?
18:26 Megaf no idea Vazon, I have never used this
18:26 Megaf Im not a windows user Oo
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18:27 Vazon nether am i i hate windows
18:27 Whitemau5 Hello1
18:27 Vazon brb its wanting to reboot
18:27 Vazon White linux chrashed lost everything D:
18:27 Vazon brb
18:27 Whitemau5 OMG
18:28 Whitemau5 linux gaming server?!
18:28 Megaf Whitemau5, yes?
18:29 Whitemau5 oh hey megaf
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18:31 Whitemau5 so i was gonna ask since the new update came out: what is new to the game besides the menu format change?
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18:33 Megaf anyone whiling to help me test my newest server? Really, just a test, dig some nodes and place some nodes
18:33 Whitemau5 sorry im busy
18:35 Megaf !up megaf.co.vu 30002
18:35 MinetestBot megaf.co.vu:30002 is up (553ms)
18:36 Megaf !up megaf.co.vu 30002
18:36 MinetestBot megaf.co.vu:30002 is up (115ms)
18:36 Megaf that's a better ping
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18:42 Vazon nope didnt work Megaf :/
18:43 john_minetest Vazon: Try the tool that I posted
18:43 john_minetest Download is www.pendrivelinux.com/downloads/Universal-USB-​Installer/Universal-USB-Installer-1.9.5.1.exe
18:43 Vazon ok
18:43 john_minetest It worked for me on my win7 computer.
18:47 Vazon seems to be working
18:47 john_minetest :)
18:49 Vazon its putting alot of files on the flash
18:50 john_minetest yeah
18:50 Vazon man this will take a while
18:50 john_minetest that are the files from the iso
18:52 Vazon ok i have my computer to boot with flash already so if i restart will it run?
18:52 Megaf it should run
18:53 Vazon ok
18:53 Megaf and actually I have my OS installed on a usb drive
18:53 Megaf an usb*
18:53 Megaf so I can bring my "computer" with me all the time
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19:01 Megaf !up megaf.co.vu 30002
19:01 MinetestBot megaf.co.vu:30002 is up (302ms)
19:02 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.info 30000
19:02 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30000 seems to be down
19:02 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.info 30001
19:02 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30001 seems to be down
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19:03 dysoco hm I don't like the new website, it's too... white
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19:04 Megaf hm
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19:05 Megaf at least it looks good on my small screen
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19:09 Kacey now we just need a way to switch texture packs in game
19:09 Jordach alright
19:09 Jordach WHO FUCKED WITH THE SITE AGAIN
19:10 Jordach it looked like the windows 8 guy came all over it
19:11 dysoco haha true, or Ice Cream Sandwich
19:12 rubenwardy :P https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/7675464
19:12 thexyz Jordach: what happened?
19:12 Jordach i dislike you shitty arch taste in websites
19:13 * sfan5 is confused
19:13 rubenwardy holy crap
19:13 rubenwardy the site is different
19:13 sfan5 the new design is cleaner
19:13 Jordach BULL. SHIT.
19:13 rubenwardy Its ok
19:13 Jordach you make the game appealing to OS X guys; who don't even have SUPPORT.
19:14 dysoco I mean, the previous website looked awesome
19:14 dysoco it had colours and.. life
19:14 sfan5 how is this design more appealing to osx people
19:14 rubenwardy This design lacks personality, but it cleaner
19:14 Jordach sfan5, clean, white, bullshit
19:14 thexyz ooh
19:14 thexyz perhaps you preferred the previous one
19:14 thexyz which had non tiling textures and shit
19:15 thexyz well poor you
19:15 Jordach it tiled for me
19:15 sfan5 can we please stop arguing
19:15 thexyz at least I now can link to minetest.net without facepalming myself
19:15 rubenwardy The old one was very unclean
19:17 Jordach ugh, why do people like the thing that was (almost) made by apple
19:17 thexyz what?
19:17 thexyz white color was made by apple or what?
19:17 Jordach clean design is so fucking simple i can do it in DREAMWEAVER without trying
19:17 Jordach no. even better. NOTEPAD.
19:17 thexyz and what's your point
19:18 thexyz I bet you'd like shit like http://code.divshot.com/geo-bootstrap/
19:18 thexyz it's not simple and stuff
19:18 sfan5 my eyeeesss..
19:18 Megaf who made the new site?
19:18 Jordach something with texture
19:18 Jordach something with some colour
19:19 sfan5 sh
19:19 dysoco I mean I can accept this for a blog like http://antirez.com
19:19 dysoco but it's a game, you need images in the homepage
19:19 thexyz anyway I wanted to ask if anyone here has https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1262 lying somewhere
19:20 thexyz Jordach: feel free to live in your web1.0 textured fuckshit with non tiling textures
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19:20 thexyz but I'd prefer not to
19:20 Jordach thexyz, ugh, web2.0 refers to social media - gtfo you fuckin sheep
19:21 thexyz no you retard web1.0 refers to whatever I want it to refer to at the moment
19:21 Jordach thexyz, then fuck off, which means use the terms correctly, or go piss on someone elses webdesign
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19:22 Megaf O like the style I have chosen to my servers website http://megaf.co.vu/
19:22 Jordach if you take the principles of arch to heart - then webpages should just have no text, colour or even images, just a $ ~
19:22 thexyz well your taste in design sucks if you seriously think that what we had was good
19:22 thexyz it was awful
19:22 thexyz starting from that image
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19:23 thexyz but your whining won't change anything so chill out
19:23 Jordach you really are catering to people who do appear to have attention span
19:23 Jordach thexyz, oh really
19:24 thexyz to be honest not just yours
19:24 Jordach darkrose did better with http://minetest-classic.com
19:24 thexyz celeron appears to ignore any opinion
19:25 thexyz it looks meh but less meh than what we had so I guess it's okay?
19:30 rubenwardy I dislike mt-classic's design
19:30 rubenwardy blurry images, missmatching colors :P
19:30 rubenwardy Side bars are nice though, and buttons
19:32 Megaf Ok, im disabling nether http://paste.debian.net/68089/
19:48 rubenwardy Bye all
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20:00 Vazon i finally go ubuntu back
20:02 Vazon tiem to find that terminal cod e for the download lol
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20:04 Vazon anyone happen to have that on hand?
20:09 Calinou no, I only have that on hoof
20:10 Vazon XD
20:10 ShadowNinja The old site design needed some work, but I liked it a lot better than the plain white one we have now. I also liked the new mockup that BlockMen made.
20:11 Vazon Shadow do you have have link to the minetest download for ubuntu my linux chrashed an im starting fro mnothing lol
20:13 ShadowNinja Vazon: You have to add a PPA. "sudo apt-add-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable" IIRC.
20:13 ShadowNinja Vazon: Or compile it.
20:13 Vazon aa thanks :D
20:13 Calinou compiling it is better
20:14 Vazon i have no idea how to compile
20:14 Calinou I have a script to do it
20:14 Vazon ok i put that in the terminal wiat next
20:14 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3837
20:15 Vazon which will run in the terminal Calinou last time i didn that i did both one ran in the terminal other did not
20:15 Calinou don't run both
20:15 Calinou run one of them
20:15 Vazon ok
20:15 Calinou try the non-portable one first?
20:16 Vazon i did
20:17 ShadowNinja sfan5: The stats need a update.
20:17 sfan5 which stats?
20:17 Vazon http://pastebin.com/9wnHpsbZ
20:17 Vazon i got that
20:18 ShadowNinja sfan5: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
20:18 ShadowNinja Perhaps "~topic add IRC Stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html"?
20:19 sfan5 if you want..
20:19 sfan5 updated
20:19 ShadowNinja ~topic add IRC Stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
20:19 Topic for #minetest is now 0.4.8 is released! | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | Core Devs: #minetest-dev | Servers: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC Logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC Stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
20:19 sfan5 !op
20:19 Topic for #minetest is now 0.4.8 is released! | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | Core Devs: #minetest-dev | Servers: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC Logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
20:19 sfan5 !deop
20:20 ShadowNinja ~topic change -2 s/Logs/logs/
20:20 Topic for #minetest is now 0.4.8 is released! | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | Core Devs: #minetest-dev | Servers: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | IRC stats: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html
20:21 dysoco yeah that capitalized L was really harmful
20:22 ShadowNinja dysoco: I know, right! ;-)
20:22 dysoco haha
20:22 dysoco holy crap, I have class in 7 minutes
20:23 sfan5 lol
20:24 Vazon Calin those lines dont work
20:25 Vazon o wait lol
20:28 PilzAdam "Poor PilzAdam, nobody likes him/her."
20:31 Vazon i dont dislike you pilz ..cuase i dont know you that much lol
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20:41 john_minetest I am in 9 channels. Talk is only in one of those.
20:42 harrison I had an dream where i was in 1000 channels conversing all at once like a hybrid of argus and the hydra it was a real epiphany let me tell you
20:42 * ShadowNinja has about 150 buffers...
20:43 Calinou 44 channels here
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20:43 PilzAdam 14 in 3 networks here
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20:45 ShadowNinja sqlite> SELECT `bufferid` FROM `buffer` ORDER BY `bufferid` DESC LIMIT 1; -> 193
20:46 Vazon .... Calinou the links will not let me type (minetest) in the terminal to start minetest
20:46 ShadowNinja s/buffer/network/ on ^ -> 7
20:46 Calinou Vazon, there is no such thing
20:47 Calinou you can create an alias yourself later, but the script does not do that
20:47 Calinou you have to run the "minetest" binary which is in ~/minetest/bin
20:47 Vazon yes there is before my linux crahsed that is how i started the server and and my game that way
20:48 Calinou you used a packaged Minetest then
20:49 Vazon .... maby VanessaE will now lol
20:49 Calinou will what?
20:50 Vazon will now cuase she is the one who helped me set it up in the first place
20:52 Calinou then you used the PPA
20:53 Calinou Vazon, https://code.launchpad.net/~minet​estdevs/+archive/stable/+packages
20:54 Calinou Vazon, what ubuntu version do you use?
20:54 Vazon 12.04
20:55 Calinou deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/m​inetestdevs/stable/ubuntu precise main
20:55 Calinou Vazon, go to "Preferences > Software Sources" and add that line
20:55 Calinou or, edit /etc/apt/sources.list (as administrator) and put that line at the end of the file
20:56 Vazon ? sorry you lost me bud :/
20:56 Vazon hold on brb in like 10
20:58 * Calinou facehooves
20:59 harrison catwise, we enjoyed the dawn's concomitant reintermittent disgurgitation
20:59 harrison as if something horrible was being forcibly expelled from a great depth
20:59 harrison in the kitchen
21:00 harrison later my wife stepped in it
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21:10 fmcd hi all.. n00b question.. if a server has a mod installed, does the client have to have it also for it to work?
21:10 PilzAdam no
21:10 PilzAdam bye
21:10 fmcd interesting
21:18 Jordach fmcd, the server uploads it to the clients
21:18 VanessaE s/it/its media/
21:18 Jordach all the clients have to do is stay in the compatible range of the server's networking code
21:18 fmcd if the client already has the mod installed, does the server still upload?
21:19 Jordach yes
21:19 Jordach it might be an older version to the server. or vice versa
21:19 fmcd ok. does the client keep it cached after that for subsequent connects?
21:21 Calinou fmcd, if the client has the mod installed on a local world, it won't be used for cache.
21:21 fmcd ah. thanks
21:21 Calinou however, if the client has already connected, the client caches the media (textures/sounds/models)
21:22 Calinou the cache stays until the user deletes their "cache" directory
21:22 Calinou (they probably won't)
21:27 fmcd good to know
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21:31 fmcd is there a server with some mobs on it? i havent seem any so far
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21:34 proller Sky
21:34 proller mobf and mobs
21:36 VanessaE my survival, creative, and nostalgia servers have mobs
21:36 VanessaE (mostly on the first)
21:36 proller but doom2 mobs much better ;)
21:40 Vazon VanessaE i need some help.. i need to know how to get it where minetest and minetest servers will run in the terminal i had to restart my linux
21:40 john_minetest simplemobs are nice.
21:40 john_minetest we should have them in minetest_game
21:41 VanessaE Vazon: can you be more specific?
21:41 VanessaE nearly everything can run from a terminal anyway
21:42 Vazon like i open a terminal and i type minetest and it opens the minetest game and if i put in a auto restart code and it will ru na server i nthe terminal i had it set up this way before with the file .minetest but for some reason when i reinstalled my game it all went in to the mientest file
21:55 Vazon can you help me VanessaE?
21:56 VanessaE not really
21:57 VanessaE you just have to run the server with the right arguments and put a & at the end of the line
21:57 VanessaE then close the terminal with ctrl-d or 'exit'
21:57 VanessaE I use a script to keep mine running, which is launched from /etc/rc.local
21:58 Vazon hmm dang i dont want have to be on my server 24/7
21:58 Vazon for it to be up
21:59 VanessaE you don't have to be
21:59 VanessaE you just have to run the background 'minetestserver' process with the right arguments
21:59 VanessaE but your computer has to stay turned on 24/7 if you want the server to be accessible
22:00 Vazon yes i know this i have ran a server for like 5 months now lol
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22:12 fmcd anybody running a server on an EC2 instance?
22:12 VanessaE OldCoder does I think
22:12 OldCoder Hi
22:13 OldCoder I used to; but too expensive. I purchased my own complete server.
22:13 OldCoder fmcd, what would you like to know regarding EC2?
22:22 ShadowNinja fmcd: The actual mod (the code) is run only on the server. The media (textures, models, sounds) is downloaded and cached. and the item definitions(there is a tree node with these textures that should render like so...) are re-downloaded every time.
22:23 fmcd i was just wondering if anyone already ran a server on ec2, does it perform well
22:24 fmcd shadowninja: ah ok i got ya.. so the lua scripts control the changing state of the objects within the server and that stuff is sent down to the client at a presentation level
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22:25 jojoa1997 hi
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22:26 ShadowNinja fmcd: Yes, the server sends packets updating information about nodes and entities.
22:26 ignatenkobrain hi all
22:27 fmcd k.. so you need a bit of power on the server if you have a lot of mobs doing stuff
22:27 ignatenkobrain In minetest I can't use russian language. With minetest --verbose I see "Could not find EKEY_CODE, using orig. X11 keycode instead: 25" and the same. How I can fix this ?
22:29 ShadowNinja fmcd: Yes, mobs don't work terribly well ATM...
22:29 jojoa1997 i suggest that minetest 0.4.9 or 0.5.0 whichever is next should have mob api and biomes via lua
22:31 ShadowNinja jojoa1997: Biomes are WIP, simple_mobs and mobf provide mob APIs.
22:32 jojoa1997 but an api in C++ that are used in lua would be better
22:32 jojoa1997 and i know biomes wip
22:33 ShadowNinja jojoa1997: How so? It will be much smaller in Lua. C++ should only provide the basic functionality needed, which is already done. Entities just need optimization.
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23:15 DustinP can i run a server on wi-fi
23:18 pitriss hehe, next time he should search some dictionary for term patience :D
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23:22 john_cephalopoda aaaaand linux dead
23:23 * ShadowNinja waits for commit report...
23:23 MinetestBot GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Rollback fixes and get_node_actions 7433d65d3e 2013-11-27T15:13:06-08:00 http://git.io/WtdSDg
23:23 MinetestBot GIT: alley.marius@gmail.com commited to minetest/minetest: SQLite rollback 1fd9a11e30 2013-11-27T15:13:06-08:00 http://git.io/6nycfw
23:24 ShadowNinja Rollback is 100-1000X faster now. :-)
23:26 ShadowNinja sfan5: Fix the commit order! (Or we can use ShadowBot's GitHub plugin, which shows commits within 5 seconds but requires a webhook entry)
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23:46 fmcd is anyone modelling the real world inside a minetest world?
23:59 john_minetest yep
23:59 john_minetest well, partly.
23:59 john_minetest Some people are modelling cities.

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