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00:01 cornernote hi all
00:01 cornernote >> I was flying around in my U.F.O. with a shitload of fuel in my inventory...
00:01 cornernote lovely, great to see its still a child-friendly site
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00:12 Pentium44 cornernote, hey!
00:12 Pentium44 long time no see
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00:18 cornernote hey Pentium44
00:18 cornernote yeah, i been off doing my own thing for a bit
00:23 VanessaE hey cornernote
00:23 VanessaE welcome back?
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00:36 Peacock it's snowing :(
00:39 harrison http://laughingsquid.com/blade-runner-ani​mated-through-a-sequence-of-12597-water-c​olor-paintings-by-artist-anders-ramsell/
00:39 harrison Peacock: look at how beautiful that is
00:40 harrison & it is very good all the way through
00:41 Peacock http://static1.kefi.co/410/1/Deer_lord-1317.JPEG
00:44 Peacock good lord http://www.failqc.com/wp-content/upload​s/2013/11/ecope_inserer_jouir_FAIL.jpg
00:44 Peacock worst translation ever
00:44 Peacock enjoy !== jouir... jouir means getting off lol
00:45 harrison quebec wreck!
00:45 Peacock i admit i love coffee, but i dont get off to it lol
00:46 harrison what is wrong with enjoying one's coffee with cream?
00:47 harrison best financial headline ever:
00:47 harrison http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-1​1-25/spoiler-alert-godot-never-shows
00:48 Peacock http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/11/24/​2120231/study-suggests-link-between-dre​ad-pirate-roberts-and-satoshi-nakamoto
00:49 Peacock wouldn't it be funny if bitcoin had been invented by a bunch of drug dealers lol
00:49 harrison well ross ulbricht seems too gormless to invent a cryptocurrency
00:50 harrison the story originates with "two israeli computer scientists"
00:50 harrison perhaps this story has a bearing:
00:50 harrison two jews are walking through a town in the american south
00:51 harrison they pass a baptist church with a sign reading
00:51 harrison atheists! jews! catholics! other heathens!
00:52 harrison convert now to xtianity and we will give you $1000 !
00:52 harrison they agree that one of them will go in and investigate
00:52 harrison he comes back out a few minutes later
00:52 harrison his friend asks him
00:53 harrison "so -- did you get the money?"
00:53 Peacock hell in the south there was a bank they gave free rifles if you opened an account, nothing surprises me there
00:53 Peacock *that
00:53 harrison "That's all you people think about!"
00:54 Peacock while im usually a fan of inappropriate jokes, they at least have to be funny :P
00:55 harrison that WAS funny
00:55 harrison ok try this one
00:55 harrison when is a drug like a snake coiled around an urn?
00:55 Peacock ?
00:55 NakedFury funny inappropiate jokes are the best
00:56 harrison when it is a vasoconstrictor
00:57 Peacock yeah though theres a difference between funny inappropriate jokes and just blatantly racist/antisemitic/homophobic/misogynistic jokes
00:57 harrison that's what SHE said
00:59 Peacock a good way of telling is knowing whether said group would laught at the joke themselves :P
01:00 Peacock hell though even my korean friends have told me a few jokes about asians i'd never have the balls to say in public lol
01:00 Exio4 pitriss: your desktop is awesome
01:01 harrison you have friends?
01:01 harrison good show
01:01 pitriss Exio4: hehe thanks I love it:D
01:01 Peacock yes, i'm not a full time programmer or geek :P
01:01 harrison touche
01:01 harrison well played sir
01:01 Peacock i also get layed, go out, and have a variety of skills acquired over many jobs lol
01:02 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7qliVpGEk0
01:02 Peacock i think anyone who's ADHD is bound to have a wide variety of friends and interests though
01:04 Peacock doing the same things with the same peoples = boring
01:06 harrison you then are an extrovert?
01:06 harrison extroverts suffer boredom, one hears
01:07 Peacock introvert actually :P i just can't suffer boredum and i can't suffer the same people for very long lol
01:07 Peacock most of my friends who are extroverts doing mind going to the same bars with the same set of friends each weekend
01:07 Peacock *dont mind
01:07 harrison i found that if i express my personality too much people don't like it, and if i express it too little i don't like them.
01:08 Peacock i've been told i'm very blunt :P
01:08 Peacock people either hate me for it or love me for it, not much middle ground lol
01:08 harrison did you see the latest film i made?
01:08 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu3swsAqQdw
01:09 harrison tried to appeal to the hardcore club crowd with that one
01:09 Peacock jesus, thats an LSD trip and a half lol
01:10 harrison actually, lsd and ketamine don't act on the same receptors
01:10 harrison lsd: various serotonin receptors incl 5hta2
01:10 harrison ket: nmda receptors
01:11 Peacock haven't touch K in years, never actually found LSD when i was younger
01:11 harrison i myself haven't used k
01:12 harrison yet
01:12 harrison i may have to
01:12 NakedFury I am proud to say I have no idea what K is and no interest in touching it or lsd
01:12 harrison watch the film please it is explanatory
01:12 Peacock ketamine is a horse tranquilizer lol
01:13 harrison Ketamine
01:13 harrison A hydrochloride tranquilizer used in veterinary practice for the sedation of animals and reptiles
01:14 Peacock though humans don't consume it in it's liquid form, its cooked into a powder
01:14 Peacock *its
01:14 harrison people do IM the liquid form Peacock
01:14 harrison you don't get out much i take it
01:14 Peacock thank god i dont like needles then
01:15 Peacock well i left the major city 3 years ago, and there are more bars than clubs here
01:16 Peacock besides kids today are incredibly stupid, doing crack/heroine/meth and krokodil, i dont think i'd be interested in the club scene
01:16 harrison lol well i hardly go out of the apartment myself
01:17 harrison it is not all that safe
01:17 Peacock well with all the crap kids do today you have better chances of getting shot in a club than in the hood
01:17 harrison i used that music to pander to the low instincts of the crowd
01:18 harrison attracting views to the film and popularizing the realtime voxel raytracer
01:19 Peacock besides as i approach my 30's im listening to more jazz and classical and my wife finds me boring for it lol
01:20 Peacock and you wont find many clubs with live dixie or big band lol its mostly that contemporary crap they play in malls and elevators
01:22 Peacock though it's a step up from the salsa they played in malls throughout the 90s lol
01:42 Partmedia anyone know where I can get a hold of PilzAdam?
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02:10 marioxcc hi
02:10 VanessaE hi
02:10 marioxcc is it just me or the landrush server is down?
02:10 marioxcc hello VanessaE
02:10 VanessaE it's not showing on the master server list either.
02:10 marioxcc indeed
02:11 marioxcc and the web page shows bogus current user list
02:11 marioxcc for instance, it shows me and i'm not on it
02:11 marioxcc what other server do you recommend?
02:11 VanessaE you could try mine if you want, I think they're okay (I have 5 of them)
02:12 marioxcc ok
02:12 marioxcc i noticed that you made some mods
02:12 marioxcc thumbs up
02:12 VanessaE yes
02:12 VanessaE thanks :)
02:13 marioxcc I'd have used a copyleft license, however
02:13 marioxcc (for the code as well, i mean9
02:13 * VanessaE shrugs
02:13 marioxcc *)
02:13 VanessaE I use whatever works for the situation :)
02:13 marioxcc well, a lot of licenses will do, you still have to pick one from those
02:14 marioxcc for instance, both public domain and GNU GPL are ok
02:15 VanessaE WTFPL is essentially public domain
02:15 marioxcc yes, i know
02:58 ShadowNinja Hmmm, CN has a point. Should that be changed to something like "a bunch of"? Or maybe a different quote?
02:58 Exio4 pitriss: kde3 <3
03:00 Peacock klunky desktop environment
03:01 Exio4 http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/11/26​/0014229/driver-arrested-in-ohio-for-s​ecret-car-compartment-full-of-nothing lel
03:01 Peacock just read that five minutes ago lol
03:06 Peacock i just don't bother with owning a car lol between insurance, gas, license fees, etc., at least as a pedestrian i don't have to carry ID
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03:15 suntonlain :-)
03:16 VanessaE Exio4: driver arrested for *modifying his car in defiance of state law*
03:16 VanessaE ftfy.
03:16 Peacock well what else would you use hidden compartments for, if not drugs?
03:16 VanessaE additional cargo?
03:17 VanessaE if I ever modded my car, that's precisely what I'd use it for
03:17 Peacock what slashdot also omitted to mention was the cop smelled weed
03:17 VanessaE half the trunk is filled with my subwoofer box.
03:18 VanessaE I always thought slashdot was somewhat above sensationalism :-/
03:18 Peacock are you kidding me? lol
03:18 VanessaE well they used to be,,.
03:18 suntonlain :-) Good Morning Vanessa E, Good Morning to all
03:18 VanessaE hi
03:19 Peacock even when slashdot talks about bill gate's charitable activities, you get the usual anti-MS vitriol
03:19 VanessaE Peacock: yeah but that's the usual readership noise
03:20 Peacock well i guess it's to be expected with so many unemployed programmers in this economy
03:20 VanessaE heh
03:21 Peacock though in a free software world they'd mostly all be working in call centers as support agents lol
03:22 Peacock dunno, i usually find slashdot comments quite entertaining, but i take them with a grain of salt when it comesto truth and accuracy lol
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03:23 VanessaE like one guy there said, at least slashdot mostly moved on from all those stupid memes from old.
03:24 VanessaE (natalie portman, GNAA, goatse, etc)
03:24 Peacock been a while since i saw a reference to those lol
03:24 Peacock but they also changed owners recently if im not mistaken
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03:25 Vazon guys is there a porblem with 0.4.8 stable with growth since i updated my server nothing is growing
03:27 VanessaE growing?
03:27 ShadowNinja Vazon: As in trees? Update minetest_game.
03:28 VanessaE depends on what it is that grows
03:29 Vazon the only thing growing is the farming plus mods plants and plant life mod the dirt doesnt grow into dirt_with_grass trees dont grow wheat and cotton dont grow ether
03:30 ShadowNinja Vazon: Update minetest_game.
03:30 Vazon ok where can i find the update?
03:35 ShadowNinja Vazon: Check the downloads page.
03:35 Vazon ok and anyone now why the minetest page is white?
03:36 ShadowNinja Vazon: celeron55 changed the template to a simpler one.
03:38 VanessaE now????  GRRRRR
03:38 * VanessaE throws a 'k' at Vazon
03:39 Vazon why at me :(
03:49 VanessaE "anyone now why" --> "anyone know why"
03:50 Peacock half an hour later :P
03:50 VanessaE :P
03:51 Peacock lol minetest.is_yes(arg)
03:51 Peacock next up minetest.who_is_phone
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03:59 Inocudom Cornernote was here today, which is a good thing.
03:59 Peacock he seems to pop in every two weeks
03:59 Inocudom Why did Dan Duncombe leave?
04:00 Peacock he's gone?
04:00 Inocudom Yes, I am afraid so.
04:00 Peacock did he say why? (links)
04:01 Inocudom It is a shame, because he was such a skilled modder.
04:01 Peacock well minetest is pretty good at loosing skilled modders :P
04:02 Peacock i remember a few weeks ago they wanted to implement some stupid rule about forcing people to post mods through forum attachments (why not go full RMS and insist they give up copyrights too)
04:03 Inocudom The only thing I see copyrights being good for is preventing commercial exploitation and preventing theft.
04:04 Peacock at the core, copyright is about preserving the rights of the person creating the content
04:05 Peacock and while open source concepts do make sense for software, mods tend to be more creative than just code
04:07 Peacock all you have to do is compare the number of forks of the engine to the number of forks for each mod and you'll see why contribution works for one but not the other :P
04:07 Inocudom An original creative concept is better forked than modified by somebody else. Every tree needs its trunk.
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04:09 Peacock well that's one way of thinking :P if i put alot of time into coming up with something creative or original, id rather others put in as much work themselves if they think they know better
04:09 Inocudom Welcome Kacey.
04:10 Kacey 0.4.8 is released?
04:10 Inocudom Yes, it is.
04:10 Kacey and what is different from 0.4.7?
04:10 Peacock ascii pron
04:10 JackGruff changelog is on wiki, Kacey, google it
04:11 Inocudom New sounds, more bugfixes, better server list, a few other things.
04:11 Kacey JackGruff, im not new here
04:11 Inocudom You certainly should update to it (in fact, I advocate updating to dev builds when possible.)
04:22 Kacey well... that seems broken...
04:22 Peacock lol
04:23 Kacey online mod repository button
04:23 Kacey doesnt seem to want to work
04:24 Kacey ibroke minetest again!
04:24 Kacey space. bar.
04:24 Peacock stick with stable :P
04:24 Kacey i am using stable
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04:53 hoodedice ERROR[main]: Some exception: "Failed to create socket"
04:53 hoodedice Proller's dev branch
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04:54 hoodedice Anyone?
04:59 OldCoder Hi
04:59 OldCoder Ah
04:59 OldCoder That code is IIRC under heavy development
04:59 Peacock warm apple pie
04:59 OldCoder Hm?
05:00 * OldCoder thinks about food
05:00 Kacey im back
05:01 hoodedice It is
05:02 hoodedice But the author claims to reduce significant server and general lag, and be able to run 50+ mods without any repurcussions
05:02 Peacock Kacey the Gozerian... good evening. As a duly designated representative of the City, County and State of New York, I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place of origin or to the nearest convenient parallel dimension.
05:02 hoodedice XD
05:03 Kacey parallel dimensions dont exist.it is realms, an deach realm is made of 100 planes
05:16 thexyz what happened to the minetest.net main page? it suddenly looks better
05:16 VanessaE celeron55 happened :)
05:17 Kacey oohai VanessaE
05:37 Peacock i must admit, the new minetest.net makes me much less likely to projectile vomit
05:37 Peacock you can use that in the little quotes box if you want
05:38 thexyz sfan5: I remember you having that weird Mac suffix, can you do Minetest builds for os x?
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05:53 * VanessaE hides
05:53 RealBadAngel :P
05:53 RealBadAngel hi
05:53 VanessaE hi
05:54 RealBadAngel shaders are rebased, got them?
05:54 VanessaE not yet
05:54 VanessaE url?
05:55 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest
05:56 VanessaE goes in clean.
05:56 VanessaE meanwhile, see #minetest-technic logs
05:56 VanessaE short version: I fixed why pipeworks' tubes weren't autoconnecting to technic devices.
06:00 RealBadAngel which remind me of furnaces issue
06:00 VanessaE well at least the water and lava seem good.
06:01 RealBadAngel and folks complainin bout 1st tier of technic machines
06:01 VanessaE I don't have anything handy to test leaves/plants waving
06:01 RealBadAngel in technic only MV and up should be able to use pipes
06:01 RealBadAngel i mean tubes
06:01 VanessaE yeah
06:02 RealBadAngel so anything below, including regular furnace should be excluded
06:02 VanessaE ok
06:02 RealBadAngel and i saw folks posting fixes to make some stuff work
06:02 RealBadAngel which was already partially working
06:02 VanessaE anyway, see that chan's logs (I assume they exist) and comment there :)
06:03 RealBadAngel ok
06:04 RealBadAngel i wonder how could vbo play together with shaders
06:05 VanessaE it works fine
06:05 VanessaE I use pilz's vbo patch,.
06:05 RealBadAngel got the link?
06:05 VanessaE also, shader glitch:
06:05 VanessaE please don't move the bottom surface of a liquid
06:05 VanessaE keep it aligned to the base of the node
06:06 VanessaE otherwise it z-fights like crazy
06:06 RealBadAngel shit
06:06 RealBadAngel we need water to be redefined
06:06 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/h​obbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20​-%2011262013%20-%2001%3a06%3a16%20AM.png
06:06 RealBadAngel all the liquids in fact
06:07 RealBadAngel definition shall be surface + sides and bottom
06:07 VanessaE I think it was decided that liquids shall have no bottom face
06:07 RealBadAngel and shaders should apply to the surface
06:07 VanessaE but the sides should at least not move :)
06:08 RealBadAngel bottom shall be same as sides
06:08 RealBadAngel i just meant full definition
06:08 VanessaE also, flowing liquid shall not flow up and down like the sources do.  instead, the highest point only shall move up and down
06:08 VanessaE otherwise you have liquids that sit there spreading backward and then forward if they're poured over land
06:09 RealBadAngel that acutally looks quite nice
06:09 VanessaE it does look nice
06:09 RealBadAngel like sea side
06:09 VanessaE but it moves way too fast with lava
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06:09 VanessaE maybe just limit it to water then
06:09 RealBadAngel or apply viscosity
06:09 VanessaE yeah
06:09 VanessaE now about the waving leaves/plants
06:10 VanessaE waving = 1,  in the node def?
06:10 RealBadAngel yup
06:10 VanessaE ok
06:10 VanessaE do I add this now or wait?
06:10 RealBadAngel you can add it now
06:10 VanessaE how long until you decide to change it? ;)
06:11 RealBadAngel it definitely wont chage
06:11 VanessaE ok,
06:11 RealBadAngel maybe at some point there will be different possible values
06:11 RealBadAngel but not now
06:11 VanessaE right
06:11 VanessaE ok
06:12 VanessaE how long until this goes to mainstream?
06:12 sfan5 thexyz: I have OS X Maverik in VirtualBox
06:12 VanessaE I don't fancy making those changes only to have to rip them out again
06:12 * Kacey scrolls around to catch up on this conversation
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06:14 RealBadAngel im pretty close to finish that part i think
06:15 RealBadAngel whats left: another timer, some small fixes to liquids maybe
06:16 VanessaE ok
06:16 RealBadAngel and i have to ask PilzAdam how could ice wont work for him while its solid node
06:16 VanessaE RealBadAngel: let me check that
06:16 RealBadAngel he posted weird screenshot with blueish box and said thats ice
06:16 VanessaE I saw it
06:17 RealBadAngel ice in mt game is just regular node, no alpha
06:17 RealBadAngel and theres no way to get such effects hes showing
06:17 VanessaE hm
06:17 VanessaE glitch
06:17 VanessaE homedecor frosted glass skylights are no longer translucent.
06:18 RealBadAngel pastebin its definition please
06:18 VanessaE in fact, stained glass nodes are not translucent anymore either.
06:18 VanessaE and I know those haven't been changed in months.
06:18 VanessaE did you take use_texture_alpha into account?
06:19 RealBadAngel alpha_shader can be messed i think
06:19 RealBadAngel but i need def
06:19 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6477553/
06:19 VanessaE skylight,.
06:19 VanessaE this may be why ice doesn't work for pilz
06:20 * Kacey is considering bring xytest back to life...
06:20 VanessaE ice is opaque for me also.
06:20 RealBadAngel it doesnt use texture alpha in minetest_game
06:20 VanessaE ditto for stained, steel-framed glass e.g. green
06:20 VanessaE oh ok, well maybe his ice is redefined.
06:20 VanessaE anyway, forget that one
06:21 VanessaE clearly use_texture_alpha is not being used :)
06:21 RealBadAngel ok, i will check that out
06:21 VanessaE also please PLEASE fix that z-fighting bug with framed glass
06:21 RealBadAngel after the shaders
06:21 VanessaE ok
06:22 RealBadAngel i wont be messing my own pull for christ sake ;)
06:22 VanessaE ok ok :)
06:22 VanessaE so let's attack the alpha glitch now
06:23 RealBadAngel i will do that togther with 45.01 deg fix for plantlike
06:23 VanessaE make the 45.01 tweak when you fix framed glass
06:23 VanessaE that's a good place for it
06:23 RealBadAngel ^^ninjad
06:23 Kacey what have i missed since i left?
06:23 VanessaE Kacey: everything :)
06:24 Kacey obviously... i come back and "0.4.8 is on the way"
06:24 RealBadAngel you have missed our order, chicken with fries and cold beer please ;)
06:25 VanessaE Kacey: 0.4.8 is out.
06:25 Kacey lol i could give you cold chicken and cold fries with a hot beer. good enough?
06:25 Kacey well, i came back yesterday i think it was... and it wasnt out. and now it is
06:25 RealBadAngel cooked beer is also good, besides we do have winter now, so it fits :)
06:26 Kacey heh
06:26 RealBadAngel but cold fries? noooooo
06:26 VanessaE yup, it's out and already out of date :)
06:26 RealBadAngel oh, cmon just one bugfix ;)
06:26 VanessaE [11-24 17:55] <PilzAdam> VanessaE, you can say that stable is outdated again
06:27 Kacey hey. cold fries can be good. just not McDonald's  fries...
06:27 RealBadAngel but as c55 said it was good for many hours :)
06:28 paramat Peacock, it's possible to scan noise in ungenerated space to locate where an asteroid/comet will be generated. see the search function in uniflat mod :)
06:28 Kacey should i bring xutest back and try to make it work with technic and pipeworks?
06:28 RealBadAngel Kacey, rly? i do have some deep frozen ones in the fridge, wanna some? :)
06:29 Kacey ok. not quite frozen ones, but ones tha thave been cooked and just got cold
06:29 Kacey that have*
06:30 * Kacey will return. for now, sleep
06:31 VanessaE meanwhile, RealBadAngel....light sources work properly (the clamp() thing did its job there()
06:31 VanessaE so just alpha solids don't work right
06:31 RealBadAngel im on it
06:31 VanessaE ok
06:32 VanessaE interestingly, lava doesn't light up the nodes it's on, only the ones next to it
06:33 VanessaE or at least, it seems to darken the nodes it's on.  pour some lava on flat ground and watch the edge wave back and forth
06:33 VanessaE you can see a dark, yellowish discoloration on the ground.  most noticable with sand
06:33 VanessaE "dark" is the wrong work, it's actually kinda subtle.
06:33 VanessaE word*
06:35 RealBadAngel its a bug or what?
06:35 VanessaE idk
06:35 VanessaE a lighting glitch maybe
06:35 VanessaE it's probably always been there
06:35 RealBadAngel i quess it wasnt visible before
06:35 VanessaE just never noticed it before because the lava didn't move around
06:35 RealBadAngel without waving
06:35 VanessaE yeah
06:36 RealBadAngel i think its common
06:36 VanessaE also:
06:36 VanessaE a water source in hand should be translucent like it is in the world and inventory
06:36 RealBadAngel that surface wasnt supposed to be visible before
06:36 VanessaE right
06:36 VanessaE (I love how the water in-hand waves around :D )
06:36 RealBadAngel thats actually a glitch
06:37 RealBadAngel i have to turn off shaders before generating inventory and wielded items
06:37 VanessaE the inventory item actually works fine
06:37 VanessaE it's just the item in hand that is opaque
06:38 VanessaE might be related to the solids alpha glitch
06:38 VanessaE as those are opaque in hand also
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07:03 * VanessaE wonders if she gave RealBadAngel too much work to do :)
07:04 RealBadAngel hehe, enough for this morning
07:04 RealBadAngel i do have circa 4 spare hours just
07:05 VanessaE bah, this is a 5-minute fix ;)
07:05 VanessaE (if your frame of reference is appropriately set ;) )
07:11 paramat whoo chilly up here in the floatlands, temp = -32768C
07:12 VanessaE oh my :)
07:12 VanessaE typical Norwegian winter? ;)
07:14 thexyz sfan5: this doesn't answer my question
07:15 RealBadAngel VanessaE, can you check alpha stuff now?
07:15 VanessaE sue
07:15 VanessaE sure
07:16 VanessaE checking...
07:16 RealBadAngel and dont sue me for any possible glitches :P
07:17 VanessaE looks right to me
07:17 VanessaE works in HDX too.
07:17 RealBadAngel i have to fix also another drawtype, framed
07:17 VanessaE no, they're fine
07:17 RealBadAngel it needs also layers displacement
07:17 VanessaE they just have that z-fighting issue w..
07:17 VanessaE yeah
07:17 VanessaE that.
07:18 VanessaE but wait, there's another glitch with those.
07:18 VanessaE try this
07:18 VanessaE place a couple of framed glass, say green
07:18 VanessaE something you can clearly see the color
07:18 VanessaE now,
07:18 VanessaE place a plant right next to it, say poison ivy, or a flower.
07:18 VanessaE notice that the neighboring colored glass surface disappears.
07:18 VanessaE but the frames stay
07:19 RealBadAngel drawtype bug, it assumes that flower is a solid node
07:19 VanessaE (probably any other node will do, I just chose a plant because that's when I first noticed it)
07:19 RealBadAngel so lists of drawtype fixes keep growing
07:19 RealBadAngel shit ;)
07:20 RealBadAngel sometimes i just hate you, youre too good in finding bugs ;)
07:21 VanessaE lol
07:21 VanessaE I found that bug ages ago
07:21 VanessaE like, months and months ago
07:21 VanessaE I just didn't say nuthin' because I assumed you knew :)
07:22 RealBadAngel ok ok, will be fixed in this planned bunch of drawtype fixes
07:22 VanessaE ok :)
07:22 VanessaE anyway,
07:22 VanessaE the state of the shaders right now is better than git HEAD.
07:22 RealBadAngel if you will find any related to drawtypes write them down, a list maybe
07:22 RealBadAngel im plannin also for that session wirelike drawtype
07:23 VanessaE I expect that list will be,  plantlike, nodebox, glasslike, allfaces, allfaces_optional
07:23 VanessaE basically anything you can see through.
07:23 RealBadAngel so write down anything you can find, i will ask for that list after pushin shaders rework
07:24 VanessaE sure
07:24 VanessaE for now,
07:24 VanessaE let's get these damn shaders pushed upstream ASAP.
07:24 VanessaE before they get broken again :P
07:24 RealBadAngel steady, now the timers
07:24 VanessaE right
07:25 RealBadAngel it has to be time_of_day unrelated
07:25 RealBadAngel because of possible altering it, make it flow faster or even stop
07:26 RealBadAngel now i miss minecraft's tick
07:27 RealBadAngel looks like it could be very useful variable in many cases
07:27 VanessaE right
07:28 RealBadAngel but this is shaders unrelated
07:28 RealBadAngel by now i will use system time rather
07:29 RealBadAngel maybe it should be point for another pull
07:30 VanessaE naw
07:30 VanessaE this belongs with your shaders
07:30 VanessaE no one needed it before, and it's related
07:30 VanessaE no point in breaking the two up
07:48 paramat fixed core floatlands turned out bigger than expected :) http://i.imgur.com/8ea8vaU.png
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07:51 Jordach Day 2: Stable as 0.4.0
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09:14 proller freebsd port updated ! /usr/ports/games/minetest   now with rc.d script for auto start server
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09:27 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Shopping Reminder Day! :-D
09:29 * Jordach wonders what the difference between indev and v7 is
09:33 proller indev is usable, v7 - not
09:33 Jordach then why isnt indev v7 and v7 v8
09:34 proller because indev is v6++
09:34 Jordach ;*
09:34 proller and v7 was before
09:34 Jordach proller, v6++ = v7
09:35 proller v6.1
09:35 Jordach you're the one coding C/XX
09:35 Jordach proller, better
09:35 proller v7 is written from scratch
09:44 pitriss hi, please how i can put comment on git repository?
09:44 Jordach only github supports that pitriss
09:44 Jordach you might be thinking of a commit message
09:44 pitriss Jordach: yep i mean that..
09:45 Jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/6478148/
09:46 Jordach you don't have to explicitly have the add * and remove *, but i use them in case of file name and other file related stuff
09:47 pitriss Jordach: I just wanted to add only proposal of minor change on Celerons new website template code.. So I need clone whole repo to add one small message?
09:47 Jordach pitriss, if there is a pull request on that repo, then make use of it, or state so in -dev
09:50 pitriss Jordach: ok, thanks.. i posted it to dev channel instead of fighting with github page..:)
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10:12 kahrl_ I see the bug in Inventory::operator== that PilzAdam was looking for
10:13 kahrl_ if(m_lists[i] != other.m_lists[i])  <-- this line compares pointers (which are always different when different instances of Inventory are compared)
10:14 kahrl_ what is meant is: if(*m_lists[i] != *other.m_lists[i])
10:27 proller 25km^3 mandelbox now on ipv6 only server
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10:27 proller where to get best v7 biode defs ?
10:27 proller biome
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10:44 Jordach proller, ask kahrl_
10:44 Jordach kahrl_, where's the link to the pastebin with biomes
10:44 Jordach (that hmmmm manually made)
10:44 proller maybe in one of hmmmm branches..
10:53 kahrl_ Jordach: I think I have that link at home
10:56 Exio4 2013-07-06 16:32:36 +hmmmm here are the updated biome and decoration definitions:  http://pastebin.com/1kjU5tN7
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11:11 proller thanks, this works, but where get  treewprob.mts  ?
11:12 proller hmmmmhttp://www.filedropper.com/treewprob - not working
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12:00 VanessaE bbl.  bedtime.
12:07 iqualfragile VanessaE: i just woke up
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12:27 sfan5 thexyz: I don't know.. I could try
12:36 Jordach 2 days and 0.4.8 topic has ~2,600 views
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13:05 Jordach hai sfan5
13:08 * Jordach spotted evergreen in forum user list
13:11 Jordach kahrl using webchat
13:11 Jordach gtfo
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13:26 Jordach morning hmmmm
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13:26 Jordach EvergreenTree, o/
13:26 EvergreenTree \o
13:27 EvergreenTree wait, cornernote?!
13:27 Jordach he asked to be unbanned
13:32 thexyz sfan5: that'd be awesome
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13:53 us^0gb Oh, there's a topic? I missed that. I just noticed the commit.
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14:15 harrison Observe the vapid stares and empty gawks of the erstwhile doubters of bitcoin at the current price
14:15 harrison https://www.mtgox.com/
14:15 harrison see what i did there?
14:18 Jordach now if only i bought bitcoin when it was 50p a btc
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14:23 harrison empty gawks / mtgox
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14:30 Jordach basically, the people who said bitcoin will flop are now losing money on regular stock markets
14:32 harrison http://www.thesmokinggun.com/docum​ents/santa-claus-gropes-elf-687432
14:33 harrison Jordach, the important thing is that i the harrison have made another clever pun
14:34 thexyz Jordach: you should buy them now, can't you see they're going up?
14:35 Jordach empty gawks sounds the same as mtgox...
14:35 harrison thus the "pun", if you will
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14:47 jojoa1997 hi
14:49 us^0gb Hello!
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14:57 proller hmmmm, !!! where get  treewprob.mts  ?
14:58 Jordach just steal the one from pilzy's pilztest
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15:13 BlockMen hi everyone
15:15 Jordach BlockMen, i just attempted to scroll downwards on your mock site
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15:16 Jordach also. why are you using the android theme?
15:18 BlockMen Jordach, i took the blue from c55's current design and searched a fitting dark grey
15:18 BlockMen since i dont use android 4 or later i forgot that it uses similar colors :\
15:19 Jordach i'd suggest a green, because that's what the minetest logo uses primarily
15:20 BlockMen instead the blue?
15:20 Jordach yeah
15:21 Jordach or use the textured logo
15:21 Jordach simpled down a bit
15:23 BlockMen no, green looks good. one sek, i will upload
15:25 BlockMen Jordach, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/nj​geuf3e9pxxvgl/hp_t3_test_3_3-green.png
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15:27 sfan5[Mac] meow
15:30 Jordach better
15:30 Jordach much better
15:37 Jordach feels less droid and more thin
15:37 * Jordach has a bigger screen than BlockMen
15:38 BlockMen i guess many have :P
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15:52 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/YhTNaox.png
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16:01 Jordach lol
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16:04 sfan5 thexyz: minetest does not build on OSX because CMake does weird stuff
16:04 thexyz there was a link to the "working" osx repo
16:04 sfan5 like adding custom scripts that fail to the xcode project
16:04 sfan5 I used that
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16:10 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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16:11 sfan5 hi PilzAdam
16:11 paramat hi
16:13 paramat vertical realm LVM/perlinmap version now at github https://github.com/paramat/vrealm
16:14 sfan5 nice
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16:24 PilzAdam I dont like how this guy just releases my code https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7835
16:25 thexyz PilzAdam: that's my mod, can't you read? people know it
16:26 PilzAdam wut?
16:27 thexyz oh that guy was talking about a different mod it seems
16:27 thexyz anyway lol that random
16:28 Megaf why you just dont read the code and see if it really yours?
16:28 thexyz PilzAdam: why do you use minetest.setting_get("remove_items") and tonumber(minetest.setting_get("remove_items")) instead of just tonumber(minetest.setting_get("remove_items"))?
16:28 thexyz Megaf: because that was supposed to be a joke
16:29 PilzAdam eh, maybe because tonumber(nil) fails?
16:29 PilzAdam (why do I use "eh" so often recently?)
16:30 thexyz it doesn't for me
16:30 PilzAdam that code is quite old
16:31 Megaf IMHO that mod is quite useless... I just removed the bones mod
16:31 * BlockMen agrees
16:32 PilzAdam BlockMen, but its like MC!
16:32 BlockMen so?!
16:32 PilzAdam :-p
16:38 Jordach ladies, stop bitching
16:38 * BlockMen thinks Jordach wants join
16:51 reactor Evening.
16:52 Megaf PilzAdam, why does you mobs mod depends on fire mod?
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16:53 PilzAdam Megaf, because the DM shoots fireballs
16:53 Megaf PilzAdam, what if theres no fire mod enable?
16:54 PilzAdam then you cant run the mod, since it depends on fire
16:54 PilzAdam if you dont want fire then you should rather use  disable_fire=true  in minetest.conf
16:56 Peacock whats the difference between disablefire and simply deleting the fire mod?
16:56 PilzAdam Peacock, you cant run Simple Mobs if you delete the fire mod
16:56 PilzAdam disable_fire just removes all fire nodes after some time
16:56 PilzAdam and fire doesnt spread anymore
16:56 Peacock oh ok it doesn't actually disable the fire mod
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17:02 Jordach ello Kacey
17:03 Kacey o/
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17:06 Megaf !seem gronx
17:06 Megaf !seen gronx
17:06 MinetestBot Megaf: gronx was last seen at 2013-11-12 22:20:28 UTC on #minetest
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17:07 LandMineisBack supppppppppppppp
17:07 LandMineisBack peeps have you missed me?? :D
17:07 PilzAdam helloooo
17:08 LandMineisBack its been months!!!
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17:08 LandMineisBack hahah
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17:10 LandMineisBack is oldcoder even around anymore
17:10 MinetestBot LandMineisBack: <Jordach> GTFO ASSHAT
17:10 LandMineisBack whaaaaaaa
17:10 MinetestBot LandMineisBack: <Jordach> GTFO ASSHAT
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17:11 Peacock damnit jordach, did you forget to pay off the mexican cartels to get rid of him?
17:11 * Jordach slaps Peacock
17:11 LandMineisBack lol
17:11 LandMineisBack yeah like that would happen
17:11 Jordach well, if your channel abuse returns we could have kiwiirc banned from the netowkr
17:11 Jordach network*
17:12 PilzAdam LandMineisBack, hows it going?
17:12 LandMineisBack jordach keep your ideas to yourself
17:12 LandMineisBack no one gives a damm
17:12 LandMineisBack very well pilzadam
17:12 LandMineisBack chillin
17:13 LandMineisBack dealing with RL heeh
17:13 LandMineisBack buts its all good now
17:13 LandMineisBack was deleting some bookmarks and saw the mintest forum lol
17:13 LandMineisBack so decided to come in and see
17:14 PilzAdam I hope you havent deleted the Minetest bookmark
17:14 LandMineisBack nah
17:14 LandMineisBack lol
17:14 PilzAdam we just released a new stable version, 0.4.8
17:14 LandMineisBack just of bunch of youji......i mean google
17:14 LandMineisBack yeah i saw that
17:14 Jordach >minetest
17:14 Jordach >stable
17:14 LandMineisBack so pilz did you ever come to finish that economy game  mode?
17:15 PilzAdam the framework is done, but all the prices etc. need to be set https://github.com/PilzAdam/economy
17:15 PilzAdam and Im not really interested in doing that
17:16 PilzAdam Im mainly working on this game now: https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest
17:16 LandMineisBack nice
17:16 Jordach what. the. fuck. (for some reason formspecs are really slow at actually updating and cause me to move items that i didn't wish to move)
17:17 LandMineisBack whats the difference between that and the orginal mt?
17:17 PilzAdam you mean pilztest?
17:17 LandMineisBack yeah
17:18 PilzAdam it focuses on 2 things: 1) voxels – everything is a full cube 2) survival gameplay – there is hunger (different from MCs, though), mobs and players have a very limited inventory and have to use a backpack
17:19 PilzAdam also getting resources is harder than in mt_game
17:19 PilzAdam its generally a different game, its _not_ based on minetest_game, unlike most other games
17:19 LandMineisBack nice
17:20 LandMineisBack i have conisdered opening anther server but oldcoder isnt around ehehe
17:20 LandMineisBack he is the one that helps me set them up
17:21 PilzAdam I saw him quite active recently
17:23 LandMineisBack yeah?
17:23 LandMineisBack he isnt even in his own irc
17:23 LandMineisBack channel
17:23 LandMineisBack but ill try to see his website hehehe
17:24 PilzAdam he is usually more active at weekends
17:25 LandMineisBack i see
17:25 LandMineisBack well ttyl
17:25 LandMineisBack gotta go eat and do other stuff
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17:28 Kacey ishe really gone?
17:29 Kacey is he*
17:30 NekoGloop nah
17:30 Kacey oohaineko
17:31 Kacey SPACE. BAR.
17:31 Peacock space cocktails
17:31 Kacey heh
17:32 paramat Peacock, cornerworld http://i.imgur.com/8nkcJqn.png working towards dyson cube :)
17:32 Peacock nice, doesn't get much more voxely than a cube world
17:33 Kacey paramat, you are either awesome or just plain crazy. maybe both
17:33 Kacey can you walk on the "walls"
17:33 proller paramat, liquid_finite=1 !!!!!! ;)
17:34 paramat Kacey, no gravity and camera direction is fixed
17:35 Kacey aah. someone needs to fix that. that would make fro an interesting game
17:35 Kacey for*
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17:37 paramat perhaps c55 will go on to write a more universal voxel engine ...
17:38 paramat cornerworld is done with 2 independant vrealm mods, i let them fight it out in the corner
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17:44 paramat Peacock, vrealm LVM is at github
17:44 Peacock i cant imagine trying to use the 6d toilet in the upside-down plane, that would take some marksmanship
17:45 * Jordach gives Peacock a laser sight and scooe
17:45 Jordach scope
17:45 Jordach now try
17:47 Peacock where do i put the laser scope?
17:47 Peacock *laser sight
17:51 paramat lol
17:53 Kacey it would be awesome if each plane had a different "theme" and it were to spread slowly
17:55 paramat yeah 6 different mapgens nice
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17:58 paramat Peacock, a video recommendation, beautiful CGI O'Neil colony http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiO8CgGiWPM
17:59 Peacock dyson blimp?
17:59 Peacock surface renderings remind me of cities XL
18:00 paramat large screenshots here http://ebruneton.free.fr/rama3/rama.html
18:01 Peacock you gotta wonder if such a thing could ever be built with the resources we have
18:07 paramat found a small MC dyson cube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwBTJA_F5vk
18:07 BlockMen bye everyone
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18:10 john_minetest Hello everykitten
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18:12 thexyz why should I call my Linux system GNU/Linux when there's a lot of software written by non-GNU people?
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18:14 john_minetest I actually have a distro without any gnu content
18:14 john_minetest busybox + linux
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18:19 matsetes Hi!
18:20 john_minetest hi matsetes
18:20 matsetes Is it normal that in the dev version the trees does not spawn with leafs?
18:21 john_minetest That sounds like a bug.
18:21 Jordach mhm
18:21 matsetes I play an old world with some mods
18:22 matsetes When I switched to the dev version (two weeks ago) the new trees spawn without leafs
18:22 PilzAdam matsetes, your version is outdated
18:22 PilzAdam if you switch to a dev version you have to update at least once a week
18:24 matsetes But this problem is solved?
18:25 matsetes In new versions I mean
18:25 PilzAdam yes
18:25 matsetes Ok, thanks and sorry =)
18:25 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/com​mit/9fdbc1f4072dcf2296af9bcce6ec92bfa75972ca
18:26 matsetes Perfect, PilzAdam =)
18:34 Jordach nom nom nom, sausage and bacon pizza with stuffed crust
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18:36 * Kacey steals Jordach's pizza
18:36 Jordach already eaten it
18:37 Kacey ...
18:38 * Kacey goes back to playing cookie clicker
18:41 Jordach ...candy box 2?
18:42 sfan5 meow
18:42 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Jordach
18:42 Jordach i did find a massive cave system hidden under the spawn of vanessa's survival world
18:43 Jordach and these were hand dug
18:50 Calinou hi
18:50 Calinou I'm playing http://www.etlegacy.com/
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18:59 matsetes PilzAdam, Is it normal that now trees drop less saplings?
19:00 Megaf Calinou, I used to play a lot that game
19:01 Megaf I would play it for 3 days no stop
19:01 Megaf only to have water and to pee
19:01 matsetes Someone can answer me?
19:01 Calinou heh
19:01 Calinou hi matsetes
19:01 Calinou be patient
19:01 matsetes Calinou, Yes, sorry =)
19:02 matsetes Why be patient?
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19:05 Calinou not everyone is here on IRC
19:05 Calinou they may be idle
19:05 Calinou if you leave you can't get an answer
19:05 matsetes Oh, I know
19:06 matsetes I wrote to Pilz cause I talked to him some minutes ago
19:06 matsetes But it's a question that can be answered also by other people
19:07 EvergreenTree I don't think the chances have changed any, I'd have to look at the code
19:08 matsetes I think now also leaves far from trees can drop saplings
19:11 EvergreenTree Any leaves can drop saplings
19:11 EvergreenTree on trees or not
19:12 matsetes Before today I've never seen leaves dropping them away from wood
19:15 EvergreenTree They do
19:15 Jordach matsetes, you've been using a very old version
19:16 matsetes When that changed?
19:16 Jordach minetest engine, minetest_game
19:16 matsetes Perhaps I haven't noticed that lately
19:16 EvergreenTree Which version are you using?
19:16 matsetes Now the latest dev
19:16 EvergreenTree ah
19:16 EvergreenTree Which version were you using
19:17 matsetes I used to change it once a month or likely
19:18 matsetes But perhaps I haven't noticed that change =)
19:20 matsetes Well, thanks for all, see you, bye
19:29 PilzAdam ... aaand hes gone
19:29 reactor ?
19:29 * PilzAdam is talking about matsetes
19:29 reactor 01:02 < matsetes> Why be patient?
19:29 reactor Why not be the doctor instead?
19:29 reactor Right, ma
19:29 reactor Oh, he left.
19:30 reactor I'm so fucking slow!
19:30 * sfan5 puts a kitten on reactor's head
19:31 Jordach oh look, my braincells have returned
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19:31 sfan5 TIL kittens on other peoples head return your braincells
19:31 reactor I am allergic to vertebrates. Keep it away from me.
19:32 * reactor puts the kitten in a jar and starts looking for alcohol.
19:32 reactor Let's preserve it?
19:33 sfan5 no
19:33 sfan5 it's innocent
19:33 * sfan5 grabs the kitten from the jar and puts it on Jordach's braincells
19:33 * reactor starts to fill the room with neurotoxin.
19:34 Kacey why preserve it when we have a KITTEN GENERATOR!!?
19:34 reactor Stop it! I was going to use the kitten for experiments.
19:34 sfan5 noo
19:34 reactor I wanted to test Schroedinger's cat paradox!
19:34 Peacock save the animals, eat a vegan
19:34 reactor Gimme!
19:35 * sfan5 activates the black kitten generator
19:35 reactor Good.
19:35 sfan5 I'm bored, I want to watch animes..
19:36 reactor The bad news is reality does not exist, the good news is, we now have our own cat graveyard.
19:36 thexyz sfan5: that's a problem
19:36 thexyz sfan5: watch jinrui
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19:37 thexyz AOTS
19:37 sfan5 >bread with face
19:37 sfan5 lol
19:37 Peacock Hall & Oats
19:37 thexyz sfan5: that's not the worst thing about this bread
19:38 sfan5 plol
19:38 thexyz sfan5: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42u4ytkzAWw
19:38 harrison berndt dat brot
19:38 harrison das brot
19:38 harrison http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernd_das_Brot
19:39 reactor The Policeman's Beard is Half-Constructed.
19:39 sfan5 D: D: D: D:
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19:40 thexyz sfan5: it's good you should watch it
19:40 sfan5 maybe later
19:40 thexyz why are you saying you want to watch animes then? if you actually don't want to?
19:40 sfan5 *puts on plan to watch list on MAL*
19:41 thexyz I hoped everyone in this channel expresses their own genuine opinion
19:41 Exio4 http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/11/26/18​41244/sex-offender-gets-new-hearing-after​-hearing-officer-rants-against-arial-font
19:41 thexyz sfan5: I hope you at least use Taiga
19:41 sfan5 taiga, whats that?
19:41 reactor I hate varibale-spaced fonts.
19:41 reactor s/bal/abl/
19:42 thexyz sfan5: https://code.google.com/p/taiga/
19:42 thexyz it's more for Windows though; there it can do more fun stuff
19:42 sfan5 why didn't you tell me before
19:42 thexyz but even in wine it's better than visiting the website
19:42 thexyz sfan5: because you watch shit-tier shows
19:43 thexyz also >being this new
19:43 sfan5 :-(
19:43 reactor !title
19:43 MinetestBot reactor: taiga - A lightweight client for MyAnimeList - Google Project Hosting
19:43 thexyz it's okay, you'll learn over time
19:44 reactor They say, you have to conquer their minds first.
19:44 reactor ^ Food for thought, considering Japanese culture.
19:46 thexyz your hate on animus is quite amusing
19:46 thexyz I should sell all my 0.1 BTC and invest into Litecoin
19:47 thexyz seriously though, I don't understand the point of those alternative currencies
19:48 harrison well, you aren't supposed to understand the plan ...
19:48 harrison until it is too late!
19:48 harrison mwahahaha
19:48 thexyz Litecoin even advertises itself as a currency which "can be efficiently mined with consumer-grade hardware"
19:48 Peacock http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/11/24/​2120231/study-suggests-link-between-dre​ad-pirate-roberts-and-satoshi-nakamoto
19:49 sfan5 they only created litecoin to get much money themselfs (assuming litecoin is used everywhere)
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19:49 thexyz Peacock: bullshit
19:50 thexyz Peacock: even comments in this post say it's bullshit
19:51 thexyz sfan5: so why were you complaining again?
19:51 Peacock dunno, everytime i hear about btc, its always some scam, or drug bust, or disappeared/hacked exchange XD
19:51 thexyz Peacock: because that
19:51 thexyz fug
19:52 thexyz Peacock: because journalism
19:52 thexyz people will read about those things
19:53 Peacock thats because real banks dont lose people's deposits while claiming there were hacked
19:53 thexyz no one is going to read about >xyz bought a pizza with bitcoins
19:53 thexyz Peacock: what?
19:53 Peacock thats because real banks dont lose people's deposits while claiming there were hacked
19:53 thexyz nice can you post it one more time please?
19:54 harrison btc can be useful... certain items are purchasable more ...er... conveniently with btc
19:54 Peacock http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/11/​12/1553216/chinese-bitcoin-exchange-​vanishes-taking-25m-of-coins-with-it
19:55 harrison that isn't the main advantage, of course, the main advantage is moral uprightness andd, and, probity! and clean living...\
19:55 Peacock http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/07/24/0615214/se​c-alleges-bitcoin-savings-trust-is-a-ponzi-scheme
19:55 Peacock etc..
19:55 Exio4 [16:53:10] <Peacock> thats because real banks dont lose people's deposits while claiming there were hacked
19:56 Exio4 Peacock: look at 2001 in argentina
19:56 sfan5 thexyz: I'm not trying to complain
19:56 Peacock thats different, your country defaulted
19:56 thexyz Peacock: perhaps you should stop reading that much slashdot?
19:57 thexyz how much monies is lost every day because of fraud?
19:57 Peacock well you always ask for links anyhow so i thought id just post them upfront instead of arguing ad nauseam
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19:58 thexyz the second link is just plain hilarious
19:58 Peacock well i dont know how bad fraud is in other parts of the world, here banks are safer than digital currencies
19:59 thexyz yeees
19:59 thexyz to lost money all you need is cc number, 3 digit code and expiry date
20:00 thexyz and then have fun chargebacking
20:00 harrison when is a drug like a snake coiled around an urn?
20:02 Peacock 2 more before i hit the sack
20:02 Peacock http://it.slashdot.org/story/13/03/09/02​34252/dns-hijack-leads-to-bitcoin-heist
20:02 Peacock http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/09​/27/156231/bitcoin-exchange-bitfloo​r-says-it-will-replace-stolen-coins
20:02 Peacock nite folks
20:07 thexyz meh
20:07 thexyz nicely done cherry picking my replies
20:07 thexyz and then leaving
20:08 thexyz "i'll post those two links and leave immediately to look cool"
20:08 thexyz "i don't care about your opinion or anything"
20:09 Exio4 bitcoin has downsides and goodsides like any other currency :P
20:10 Exio4 (is goodsides even a word)
20:10 sfan5 you probably want s/goodsides/upsides/
20:10 Exio4 there
20:10 Exio4 badsides too
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20:13 thexyz yes but some people think it only has badsides and worsesides and even worstsides
20:15 Exio4 people thinks everything
20:17 thexyz maybe I just don't understand some of them
20:18 Exio4 I don't understand him either
20:27 thexyz PilzAdam: wait, launchpad builds don't support gettext? can you fix that?
20:28 PilzAdam no, I dont know how
20:28 thexyz aww
20:29 reactor Markov chain?
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20:34 thexyz markov chain what?
20:39 thexyz sfan5: what's your mal profile?
20:39 thexyz OKAY THAT WAS OBVIOUS
20:40 thexyz > mirai nikki
20:40 thexyz > 10
20:41 NekoGloop sup nerds
20:42 thexyz why would you rate this with 10
20:42 thexyz I mean, it wasn't that bad but
20:43 thexyz random random shit happening, random random end
20:43 thexyz put more different random stuff
20:43 thexyz but that's okay
20:44 Jordach thexyz, if anime == "yes" then math.random(1,1000000) end
20:45 thexyz Jordach: this doesn't do anything useful
20:45 Jordach you said that anime is random
20:45 thexyz it should assign a variable or something
20:45 thexyz not all anime is random
20:49 thexyz sfan5: we'll start improving your list
20:49 thexyz boku no pico joke is not fun anymore so start with Koe de Oshigoto!
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21:04 TheZenKitteh im trying to setup a server and having all sorts of issues. been absent from minetest for awhile. I compiled the minetest server from git, got the game data from git and when run there's only one error "ERROR[main]: BiomeDefManager::resolveNodeNames: node 'mapgen_water_source' not defined". when connecting, every block is unknown. there doesn't seem to be any textures sent by the server to the client. also the client has some err
21:05 sfan5 which subgame do you use?
21:05 VanessaE ...also the client has some erro....?
21:05 TheZenKitteh subgame?
21:06 TheZenKitteh VanessaE: the client errors are in first message at end
21:07 TheZenKitteh it seems minetest has changed a bit
21:07 * TheZenKitteh getting the config file for show
21:10 VanessaE indeed it has changed, but we need the error messages from debug.txt first. :)
21:10 VanessaE that first one sounds like you're using mapgen v7 or something
21:10 VanessaE a "subgame" or just "game" is e.g. minimal, minetest_game or whatever you're using
21:10 TheZenKitteh all errors are in first message
21:11 TheZenKitteh http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=cYkH6jXm
21:11 TheZenKitteh that is the config
21:11 TheZenKitteh with sensitive info removed of course
21:11 TheZenKitteh lol
21:11 VanessaE pastebin your debug.txt
21:11 VanessaE just the last cycle of it of course
21:11 VanessaE from the last  -------- Separator --------- to the end
21:12 TheZenKitteh seems I did miss an error
21:12 TheZenKitteh lol
21:12 TheZenKitteh pasting
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21:13 TheZenKitteh http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=skseeFeB
21:13 TheZenKitteh first is server
21:13 TheZenKitteh second is client
21:14 VanessaE ok this one's obvious
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21:14 VanessaE you didn't install properly so none of your default textures got installed
21:14 VanessaE in fact
21:14 VanessaE it looks like the whole of minetest_game
21:15 VanessaE you need to make sure your copy of minetest_game is properly-named, stored in the right location, and is not in fact missing its files
21:15 Vazon VanessaE ok in the minetest game the farming hoe when used crashes my server and gives me this code may you be so kind to explain whats wrong :) http://pastebin.com/670u5p8N
21:15 VanessaE Vazon: update your minetest
21:15 VanessaE and minetest_game
21:15 VanessaE and farming_plus
21:15 TheZenKitteh hmm
21:15 VanessaE that error is the result of a change in the farming API
21:15 Vazon i have VanessaE all but the farming plus
21:15 * TheZenKitteh checking to be sure the git clone actually worked
21:16 VanessaE Vazon: it can't be up-to-date if you get that error :)
21:16 Vazon the minetestgame i got from the 0.4.8 link i was given last night ....
21:16 VanessaE TheZenKitteh:what exactly did you clone, and to wherre?
21:16 VanessaE where*
21:16 TheZenKitteh yes it seems the clone didn't complete properly, fixing and re-testing
21:17 VanessaE Vazon: make sure you don't have an extraneous copy sitting somewhere.
21:17 Vazon hmmm let me see but i dont think so
21:17 TheZenKitteh git clone git://github.com/celeron55/minetest_game.git into games/
21:17 VanessaE TheZenKitteh: no
21:17 VanessaE minetest/minetest_game
21:18 VanessaE celeron55/minetest_game is not current
21:18 TheZenKitteh would explain it
21:18 TheZenKitteh lol
21:18 VanessaE ditto for the engine
21:18 VanessaE always clone from git://github.com/minetest/minetest_game.git
21:18 VanessaE (and minetest.git)
21:18 TheZenKitteh dang. means I have to recompile client and server
21:18 TheZenKitteh well I have been absent, last time I was on, the above were correct
21:18 VanessaE yeah, don't use c55's fork, his isn't actually kept up-to-date much of the time :)
21:19 VanessaE you're right, they were
21:19 VanessaE the project has since become slightly more de-centralized
21:20 TheZenKitteh thanks for the info, re-fetching and compiling
21:20 Vazon ooo ok well can i have right link to it plz
21:21 VanessaE git://github.com/minetest/minetest.git  and  git://github.com/minetest/minetest_game.git
21:21 VanessaE well, https:// maybe
21:21 VanessaE you get the point
21:21 Vazon yes
21:21 TheZenKitteh only thing I don't like about compiling is how long it takes lol
21:21 VanessaE TheZenKitteh: a necessary evil :)
21:22 TheZenKitteh I have a script to automate it but it was using the previous git links. now using the ones you suggested
21:22 TheZenKitteh I made it so all I have to do to get a new version is just launch script and wait
21:22 * VanessaE eyeballs her new motherboard and considers tearing the PC apart to install it...
21:23 * TheZenKitteh still using same computer they were using 3 years ago
21:23 TheZenKitteh I believe I have long gotten my $10 out of it lol
21:24 VanessaE heh
21:24 * Kacey is using an asus laptop with windows 8
21:24 TheZenKitteh ewwww
21:24 TheZenKitteh windows 8
21:24 * TheZenKitteh hasn't touched windows in 3 years either
21:24 Kacey it sucks at first, but you kinda get used to it
21:25 VanessaE in my case the upgrade is because of some failing hardware.
21:25 VanessaE oh well, may as well get this done.  bbl
21:25 TheZenKitteh ttyl VanessaE :)
21:25 TheZenKitteh Kacey: that can be said for many unpleasant things
21:26 TheZenKitteh sucks at first, but you kinda get used to it
21:36 Kacey should i try to bring xytest back?
21:37 * TheZenKitteh has no idea what that is Kacey
21:37 TheZenKitteh oh and while I'm here, anyone know how to make minetest client use a second soundcard on linux?
21:37 Kacey https://github.com/Kaceyproductions/xytest
21:38 TheZenKitteh I use usb headsets since I have no external speakers and my normal headphones don't have a long enough cord.
21:39 TheZenKitteh as for the mod Kacey, if you had fun doing it, go for it.
21:44 harrison when is a drug like a snake coiled around an urn?
21:50 TheZenKitteh harrison: have you been smoking meth?
21:50 TheZenKitteh just kidding lol
21:51 Kacey i have big plans for xytest... i just dont have the coding experience to make them happen
21:51 harrison no it is a riddle are you familiar with the form?
21:51 harrison when is a drug like a snake coiled around an urn?
21:52 harrison now you ask me "i don't know, when is ...."
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21:52 TheZenKitteh nope no idea what you are talking about. however your question reminds me of the snakes coiled around the rod
21:52 * Kacey ssees a weed joke coming
21:52 harrison when it is a vasoconstrictor
21:53 harrison i would never joke about weed, such is my distaste
21:53 harrison alexander shulgin himself disliked marijuana
21:54 harrison get it? vase - o - constrictor ?
21:54 harrison see what i did there?
21:55 TheZenKitteh anyone know how to brighten up minetest? its so dark in game compared to minecraft. I can barely see anything even with nearby torches
21:55 harrison ask your gamma
21:55 TheZenKitteh my monitor is as bright as it goes
21:56 harrison what do you call a large african or asian lizard that believes that healing comes through faith alone?
21:56 TheZenKitteh in minecraft there is no lighting issues and can be adjusted. im wondering if such is available in minetest.. a way to make it brighter.
21:56 harrison christian science monitor
21:57 harrison see what i did there?
21:58 Calinou_ TheZenKitteh, only way is to edit source code and recompile
21:58 Calinou_ or increase monitor brightness
21:58 Calinou_ or increase brightness in graphic driver control panel
21:58 TheZenKitteh I believe that should be considered a bug.
21:58 TheZenKitteh its almost too dark to play
22:01 harrison nor would i take the meth of which you speak TheZenKitteh
22:02 harrison unless it was medically necessary
22:02 TheZenKitteh ill smoke weed, maybe some light opiates. all others, nope.
22:03 TheZenKitteh for opiates one must realize they can be highly addictive
22:03 harrison well, peoples receptor neurochemistry varies ...
22:03 harrison so weed may be good for you
22:03 harrison for me it is dysphoric
22:04 harrison opiates for pain is a losing game, one i choose not to play
22:04 harrison ketamine is interesting, i hear
22:04 TheZenKitteh I've never done anything other than caffeine, alcohol, weed, light opiates
22:05 TheZenKitteh oh and nicotine
22:05 harrison coffee is positively healthy
22:05 TheZenKitteh of those, im only addicted to the nicotine
22:07 Calinou_ smoking kills
22:08 TheZenKitteh all sorts of stuff kills
22:08 TheZenKitteh lol
22:08 TheZenKitteh smoking just kills you faster than not smoking (could be debated but won't)
22:12 TheZenKitteh seems excessive to have to place a torch every 3 blocks just to see somewhat
22:12 TheZenKitteh lol
22:13 harrison i can't remember if i posted this link before or not:
22:13 harrison http://www.popsci.com/article/science/how-scie​ntists-are-learning-shape-our-memory?dom=PSC&a​mp;loc=slider&amp;lnk=1&amp;con=spotless-minds
22:20 Vazon ...grrr why do my players keep log in invisable
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22:21 Vazon does anyone have any idea?
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22:23 TheZenKitteh if its same issue as I seen long ago, reset their coords to 0,0,0 (worlds/players/playername)
22:23 TheZenKitteh at least that what fixed it back then
22:24 Vazon ok
22:25 Vazon nope
22:32 TheZenKitteh hmm
22:33 TheZenKitteh no wonder no mods loaded
22:33 TheZenKitteh have to enable them manually lol
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22:36 harrison mods vs rockers
22:36 harrison quadrophenia
22:36 TheZenKitteh so much has changed
22:36 TheZenKitteh yet seems there still exists invisible players, not enough brightness and who knows what else lol
22:37 TheZenKitteh personally I'd suggest ability to adjust brightness and choose sound card from within a menu in the game
22:37 TheZenKitteh would be two features that would be great imo
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22:41 TheZenKitteh lol also an issue that I still experience it seems, no idea the cause. last time I was on and now, if minetest crashes on my computer and I re-launch it, it freezes my computer. only solution I've found is to log out of my session and log back in, so brb
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22:46 TheZenKitteh happened again, this time got error and I suspect it's a low memory error or something
22:47 TheZenKitteh http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=k5vWhnKx
22:49 NakedFury was 0.4.8 released?
22:50 fairiestoy http://minetest.net/download <<< says yes
22:51 NakedFury ohh yeah the fresh intoxicating smell of new
23:14 Vazon ....can anyone help me in makeing my players visable
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23:45 Vazon .....still need help with invisable players :/
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23:49 iqualfragile Vazon: which version of minetest are you running?
23:49 Vazon 0.4.8
23:49 iqualfragile (please repost the description of your problem, i was not online at that point of time)
23:50 Vazon when some of my server players log in they are invisable no names or anything just when you walk by then you can see the box where the body should be
23:51 Vazon btw its great that i have got to meat you RealBadAngel :D
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