| Time |
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Pentium44 |
So whats new in minetest 0.4.8? |
| 00:17 |
Miner_48er |
http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#0.4.7_.E2.86.92_0.4.8 |
| 00:17 |
ShadowNinja |
OWNSyouAll: See minetest --help, particularly the --migrate option. |
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OWNSyouAll |
ShadowNinja, Thanks for that the world loads now but then it crashes http://pastebin.com/BPzKERVR |
| 00:32 |
ShadowNinja |
OWNSyouAll: After migrating change the backend if needed, but it should be set to sqlite3 before the migration. Did you do that? |
| 00:34 |
OWNSyouAll |
ShadowNinja, Yeah it was a completely new world so it defaulted to sqlite. Saved the world stopped minetest migrated it to leveldb and then I get that |
| 00:36 |
ShadowNinja |
OWNSyouAll: Did you load the world once? |
| 00:36 |
OWNSyouAll |
Created the world saved it then migrated it |
| 00:37 |
ShadowNinja |
OWNSyouAll: Did you *load* it? |
| 00:38 |
OWNSyouAll |
I never went to singleplayer and hit play on the world before migrating it |
| 00:38 |
OWNSyouAll |
if that is what your asking |
| 00:39 |
OWNSyouAll |
Still get the same error if I do load and save a bunch before converting though |
| 00:41 |
OWNSyouAll |
ShadowNinja, http://pastebin.com/vBHsP0Pa |
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| 00:43 |
paramat |
okay im gong to compile for the first time, just installed cmake from ubuntu software centre |
| 00:45 |
paramat |
now i'll re log-in as super user and will be back soon, just in case i need help |
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| 00:51 |
Vazon |
... |
| 00:53 |
paramat |
now im confused, can i compile MT from my non-super user computer account? |
| 00:53 |
ShadowNinja |
paramat: Yes, if you have the dependencies installed. |
| 00:53 |
Exio4 |
paramat: more like, you should 4NOT compile as root |
| 00:54 |
paramat |
okay good :) |
| 00:54 |
paramat |
im back in my normal account now |
| 00:54 |
paramat |
i'll just copypaste the commands in README into my terminal |
| 00:55 |
Vazon |
umm guys on my server in in creative and only me and i cant get rid of it... why is this |
| 00:55 |
Vazon |
I'm* |
| 00:56 |
OWNSyouAll |
Vazon, Your in your server thats in creative mode and you can't get rid of what? |
| 00:57 |
Vazon |
no my server isnt in creative but im on my server and im in creative but i want out of creative but i cant get rid creative priv -.- |
| 00:58 |
OWNSyouAll |
Have you tried removing the creative privilage manualy from auth.txt? |
| 00:59 |
Vazon |
no i want to keep it but i just want to remove it temp |
| 00:59 |
ShadowNinja |
Vazon: The server owner gets all privs. Remove name from minetest.conf or use a different account. |
| 01:00 |
Exio4 |
"creative priv"? |
| 01:00 |
Vazon |
dang -.- |
| 01:00 |
paramat |
okay ive located the source files (in tar.gz format) at /releases/tag/0.4.8, im assuming these are 0.4.8 stable, i dont want dev |
| 01:00 |
Vazon |
yes i updated my unified ivo for my server and then i have the creative priv |
| 01:01 |
* VanessaE |
is back. yay. |
| 01:02 |
Vazon |
man shes back :P wb VanessaE |
| 01:02 |
VanessaE |
boo. |
| 01:02 |
Vazon |
XD |
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* paramat |
puts on some calming compiling music |
| 01:10 |
Fury |
dubstep? waves crashing onto the sea? |
| 01:11 |
paramat |
chilled electro, Joseph Auer |
| 01:13 |
paramat |
cd to which directory before copypasting these commands? home i guess? |
| 01:13 |
OWNSyouAll |
Go to minetest folder you extracted |
| 01:13 |
OWNSyouAll |
cmake . |
| 01:13 |
OWNSyouAll |
make -j 9 |
| 01:13 |
OWNSyouAll |
if you have 4 cores make the j options twice that plus one |
| 01:14 |
OWNSyouAll |
so if you had 2 cores do make -j 5 |
| 01:14 |
paramat |
i havent extracted anything yet |
| 01:14 |
OWNSyouAll |
Did you download an archive or did you git clone it? |
| 01:14 |
paramat |
im about to download dependancies |
| 01:15 |
paramat |
first step in README after 'Compiling on GNU/Linux:' |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
paramat: after you clone, do the `apt-get install` bit from anywhere, then cd into the minetest directory and styart building. |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
start* |
| 01:17 |
paramat |
okay ... |
| 01:17 |
paramat |
but install dependancies is the fist step |
| 01:17 |
paramat |
... not clone |
| 01:17 |
VanessaE |
that's fine |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
if you already have git, it doesn't matter which you do first. |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
(git as in the program I mean) |
| 01:18 |
paramat |
cd to home directory to install dependancies? |
| 01:18 |
paramat |
yes i have git installed |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
it doesn't matter where you are. |
| 01:18 |
paramat |
okay great here i gp |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
`apt-get install xxxxx` will work from anywhere |
| 01:18 |
paramat |
(go) |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
oh SHIT! NOT THAT BUTTON! |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
*BOOM* |
| 01:19 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 01:19 |
paramat |
grr |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 01:20 |
paramat |
Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? |
| 01:20 |
OWNSyouAll |
did you do sudo apt-get install? |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
sudo apt-get install xxxxxxxx |
| 01:20 |
paramat |
ah of course |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
derp? :) |
| 01:21 |
paramat |
drep carp drap! |
| 01:23 |
paramat |
mattg is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 01:23 |
paramat |
but i have a admin account on this computer |
| 01:23 |
paramat |
(an) |
| 01:24 |
OWNSyouAll |
paramat, can you login as root on that machine? |
| 01:24 |
paramat |
yes i think so, as an admin account with all privs |
| 01:25 |
OWNSyouAll |
Your linux account has all privs or your minetest account has all privs? |
| 01:25 |
paramat |
linux acc |
| 01:25 |
OWNSyouAll |
Is this your own linux machine or is it owned by someone else? |
| 01:25 |
paramat |
i was told to not compile as root |
| 01:25 |
paramat |
its someone elses yes |
| 01:25 |
OWNSyouAll |
Yes but you need to install dependencies as root |
| 01:26 |
paramat |
ah okay i'll relogin to my admin account, thanks :) |
| 01:26 |
paramat |
then compile in my normal account |
| 01:26 |
paramat |
back soon |
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| 02:00 |
Fury |
bl;ue |
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| 02:12 |
paramat |
now compiled |
| 02:21 |
paramat |
it works, thanks for helping :) |
| 02:24 |
VanessaE |
\o/ |
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| 02:42 |
paramat |
phew asteroid LVM works like a dream |
| 02:44 |
ShadowNinja |
:-) |
| 02:45 |
ShadowNinja |
paramat: Now you only have to convert all your other mapgen mods. :-D |
| 02:45 |
paramat |
hehe |
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paramat |
now i'll fork minetest so i can compile, edit it and test |
| 02:49 |
ShadowNinja |
Total uptime: 3 weeks, 2 days, 5 hours, 30 minutes, 5 seconds. Before ^ |
| 02:52 |
paramat |
SN thats my total pre-fork IRC time? |
| 02:53 |
ShadowNinja |
paramat: No that *was* ShadowBot's uptime. |
| 02:53 |
paramat |
hehe okay :) |
| 02:57 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: no all forum softwares are shit |
| 02:57 |
thexyz |
and they don't support everything we want because we want them to do crazy shit |
| 02:57 |
thexyz |
like this feature you suggested |
| 02:58 |
thexyz |
I'll be surprised if any forum software implements this |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
edit history is "crazy shit"? |
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ShadowNinja |
thexyz: Yes, because post history is better. |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
strange, every wiki out there has had that for like 15 years now or something |
| 03:00 |
ShadowNinja |
VanessaE: I think he means the amending thing. |
| 03:01 |
VanessaE |
oh, well perhaps |
| 03:02 |
VanessaE |
I'd have figured amending would be programatically easier than edit histories. |
| 03:03 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: edit history, according to most forum software, is crazy either because no forum software implements it |
| 03:03 |
thexyz |
and if some forum software implements it then it implements it wrong |
| 03:03 |
thexyz |
i.e. it doesn't save attachments |
| 03:04 |
paramat |
okay now i have a pastebin account too ... um at last :} |
| 03:05 |
VanessaE |
meh |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
we have to do SOMETHING about these ragequits. and this time, the guy bolts because HE doesn't wanna follow the rules. |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
(btw, do we still call it "to pull a cornernote" or does someone else's name fit in now?) |
| 03:09 |
thexyz |
indeed we have to |
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thexyz |
VanessaE: care to write a punbb plugin for keeping history? |
| 03:16 |
VanessaE |
wish I could. |
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| 03:17 |
Enke |
Hey, the server crashed... |
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thexyz |
VanessaE: happens all the time |
| 03:19 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
| 03:20 |
Enke |
Does anyone know how to get rid of a download stored on the forum? |
| 03:20 |
Enke |
I used it before I set up GitHub. |
| 03:20 |
VanessaE |
a moderator has to delete it. |
| 03:21 |
Enke |
Alright. |
| 03:30 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: talk like this happens all the time |
| 03:30 |
thexyz |
"I think we need..." |
| 03:30 |
thexyz |
and then no one is willing to do anything |
| 03:31 |
thexyz |
and working alternatives get ignored |
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| 03:33 |
thexyz |
in this case there are no working alternatives though |
| 03:34 |
RealBadAngel |
the user is not able to delete own attachment... how can it play well together with adding mods as attachments? |
| 03:35 |
RealBadAngel |
i can smell flood of posts "please do delete it, i want to upload new version" |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: define "working alternatives" |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
I don't see you coming up with anything that will solve this. |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
no offense.. |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: two words: cornernote, jordan4ibanez |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
better to deal with people bitching about troubles updating than people yanking their work from the forum against the rules. |
| 03:37 |
RealBadAngel |
you mean users that deleted own mods? |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
yup |
| 03:38 |
RealBadAngel |
well, if they wrote it, they could do WTF they wanted to with it |
| 03:38 |
VanessaE |
forum rules. open source doesn't work if you think you can just disappear your code, you know. |
| 03:38 |
RealBadAngel |
mod is not automatically a community property when released |
| 03:39 |
RealBadAngel |
its said that community use it or whatever |
| 03:39 |
RealBadAngel |
*can |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
GPL expressly forbids such actions. |
| 03:39 |
VanessaE |
as I recall |
| 03:40 |
RealBadAngel |
i may be wrong |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
remember, |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
these are *distribution* licenses |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
not *usage* licenses. |
| 03:40 |
VanessaE |
a usage license is better known as a EULA after all. |
| 03:41 |
VanessaE |
open source doesn't work if the original author can just make all the code disappear. |
| 03:42 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: ok. new forum rule, and this needs written clearly in the rules section. |
| 03:43 |
VanessaE |
"By posting your code on these forums, either by attachment, inclusion in a post, or some other way, you grant all users of these forums the non0exclusive, irrevocable right to use, modify, and distribute that code. All such code must be covered under an open source friendly license such as ______." |
| 03:43 |
VanessaE |
(full in the blank with whatever list you feel is appropriate. |
| 03:43 |
VanessaE |
) |
| 03:43 |
VanessaE |
and preferably without my typo :) |
| 03:48 |
Fury |
dont allow users to delete posts without a Moderators permission. |
| 03:48 |
hmmmm |
http://dev.minetest.net/Mapgen_Parameters |
| 03:48 |
Fury |
they hit Delete and it sends a permission alert to Moderators |
| 03:49 |
Fury |
the Moderators can then backup the posts for safekeeping |
| 03:49 |
* paramat |
looks |
| 03:50 |
hmmmm |
yup, slowly getting around to documenting LVM somewhat or at least creating a guide, but it requires so much back information |
| 03:50 |
paramat |
oh and thanks for the lua optimisation tips |
| 03:51 |
hmmmm |
np, all of these pages are going to be links in the main LVM page |
| 03:51 |
hmmmm |
when that gets made |
| 03:51 |
paramat |
have changed my coding style on the advice from ShadowNin and N0re |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
hmmmm: way to change the subject. |
| 03:55 |
VanessaE |
paramat: just fyi, people are gonna start adding filters to their irc clients to catch those anti-pings :) |
| 03:56 |
paramat |
okay, ive decided to relax a bit about those :) |
| 03:56 |
Sokomine |
hmm. some people have odd ideas. perhaps i'll in the future have to collect some griefers somewhere and attract them to my buildings on a particular server...i'm not good at tearing down houses :-( |
| 03:56 |
Sokomine |
vanessa: no, not your server :-) |
| 04:05 |
thexyz |
VanessaE: o've suggested xenforo multiple times in the past |
| 04:06 |
thexyz |
and about attachments what it should do is to set a "deleted" flag instead of actually deleting |
| 04:06 |
thexyz |
and then mods should be able to recover the file |
| 04:07 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: that's fair |
| 04:08 |
thexyz |
shitty quassel's lost my message |
| 04:09 |
thexyz |
there should be another section below attachments, called deleted attachments and only visible to mods |
| 04:09 |
thexyz |
and basically both delete and recover buttons just move the files between those sections |
| 04:13 |
thexyz |
anyone wants 10k$? |
| 04:14 |
paramat |
hmmmm good work on that mgparams page |
| 04:15 |
hmmmm |
yup |
| 04:15 |
thexyz |
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337294.0;all |
| 04:15 |
hmmmm |
thanks |
| 04:17 |
paramat |
VanessaE ive seen several floating hands in my worlds, amazing |
| 04:18 |
paramat |
incoming screenshot |
| 04:18 |
VanessaE |
wrong channel :) |
| 04:19 |
Pentium44 |
VanessaE wanna see a good picture of my lovely screwups? |
| 04:19 |
Pentium44 |
lol |
| 04:19 |
VanessaE |
um./sure |
| 04:19 |
Pentium44 |
http://www.cddo.us/drive/users/Pentium44/Images/minetest/screenshot-mcc-112413.png |
| 04:20 |
Pentium44 |
me working on my branch ^ |
| 04:20 |
Pentium44 |
mapgen for dirt went down the drain XD |
| 04:23 |
paramat |
http://i.imgur.com/qJT7N0u.png restart the world and they multiple spawn stacked in various columns, then fall inside each other |
| 04:24 |
paramat |
thats my former 'frosty mitt' texture |
| 04:26 |
paramat |
you should try restarting at the hand location in case they spawn and fall like this 8) |
| 04:27 |
paramat |
http://i.imgur.com/AbUm4Js.png |
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sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: poke back |
| 04:43 |
sfan5 |
I knew I couldn't trust bitcoin-qt to not use 100% CPU an heat my laptop up |
| 04:44 |
sfan5 |
whatever I'll go to sleep again... |
| 04:45 |
thexyz |
it has to verify blockchain |
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thexyz |
of course it will use your cpu |
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* arsdragonfly |
tries to build minetest on android using his phone only |
| 04:48 |
Pentium44 |
minetest on android is awwweeesssooooommmmeee |
| 04:49 |
VanessaE |
arsdragonfly: cleanroom reverse-engineer of the current one that one guy made/ |
| 04:49 |
VanessaE |
? |
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arsdragonfly |
that one on google play? |
| 04:56 |
Pentium44 |
yes |
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| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 05:00 |
VanessaE |
I've played with the free version for like 2 minutes. it works, that's about all I can say about it right now |
| 05:01 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: but not 100% of all cores at once |
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thexyz |
sfan5: it tries its hardestest to make sure you get a valid blockchain |
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| 05:05 |
arsdragonfly |
interesting |
| 05:05 |
arsdragonfly |
is LGPL the reason why that guy could make a closed-source port? |
| 05:05 |
sfan5 |
hm whatever, it should be done syncing in a minute |
| 05:06 |
Pentium44 |
arsdragonfly, thats what I want to know |
| 05:06 |
Pentium44 |
well, im away |
| 05:06 |
Pentium44 |
cya all later |
| 05:06 |
thexyz |
arsdragonfly: he has to provide source for modified minetest engine |
| 05:07 |
thexyz |
but the java part can remain closed source |
| 05:07 |
thexyz |
because he failed to provide the source in some reasonable amount of time the topic is now in the trash section |
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hoodedice |
VanessaE: What happened to Dan? |
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arsdragonfly |
poor wifi connection... |
| 05:14 |
arsdragonfly |
i'm curious about how it loads mods |
| 05:15 |
hoodedice |
VanessaE: What happened to Dan? |
| 05:15 |
arsdragonfly |
playstarz/data/mods? |
| 05:15 |
VanessaE |
hoodedice: he decided he couldn't debug one of his mods and wanted to delete it by deleting the forum thread for it, despite being warned not to. He did it anyway, got banned, ragequit. |
| 05:15 |
VanessaE |
tried to pull a cornernote. |
| 05:15 |
VanessaE |
the forum lost 6 of his projects, but all the good ones were saved. |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
or "a jordan4ibanez" might be more accurate. |
| 05:16 |
hoodedice |
bah |
| 05:16 |
hoodedice |
Don't think he'll be back |
| 05:16 |
VanessaE |
idk |
| 05:17 |
hoodedice |
(Such a drama queen) |
| 05:17 |
hoodedice |
w/e, I have ilights, do we have that? |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
yup. |
| 05:17 |
VanessaE |
I saved all the good one - castles, ilights, camo, army stuff, and others. |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6470942/ |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
these got lost. |
| 05:18 |
hoodedice |
So we lost instabuild. Sad. |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
(he deleted the download sources) |
| 05:18 |
VanessaE |
yeah. |
| 05:19 |
hoodedice |
hrm. I guess the mod repo will be a safeguard against similar stupidity |
| 05:19 |
hoodedice |
XD |
| 05:19 |
VanessaE |
that's why forum attachments exist now |
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| 05:19 |
Fury |
when a user deletes a post the system should back it up b efore deleting it |
| 05:20 |
VanessaE |
and as far as I'm concerned, a mod must have a current release as an attachment before I will move it to Mod Releases |
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| 05:22 |
paramat |
i wrote Dan's aquifers mod so i have that :) |
| 05:22 |
hoodedice |
I say make the mod repo the only way to distribute mods |
| 05:23 |
hoodedice |
No download links. |
| 05:23 |
VanessaE |
paramat: already saved that one |
| 05:23 |
paramat |
good |
| 05:23 |
hoodedice |
Is there an IRC log of his rage? |
| 05:23 |
Fury |
the minetest people are too forgiving and soft |
| 05:24 |
VanessaE |
hoodedice: I have a log of the event. |
| 05:24 |
hoodedice |
forgiving? lol |
| 05:24 |
thexyz |
Fury: what do you think we should do? |
| 05:25 |
Fury |
whatever has to be done so another hurt baby wont destroy all traces of what he shared with the community |
| 05:25 |
hoodedice |
Can you pass it VanessaE? |
| 05:26 |
thexyz |
for now just force them to use attachments |
| 05:26 |
hoodedice |
I say force em to the mod repo |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
getting it now, hoodedice |
| 05:27 |
thexyz |
or that |
| 05:27 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6472344/ |
| 05:27 |
hoodedice |
https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/ I'm starting a forum thread and poll in a few minutes |
| 05:28 |
hoodedice |
24? lol |
| 05:29 |
hoodedice |
Was this not in this IRC? |
| 05:29 |
VanessaE |
not here, no |
| 05:29 |
VanessaE |
in the server chat channel. |
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| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
hah, and here comes the culprit now! |
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nore |
? |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
nore, it's all your fault, you bastard! |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
:D |
| 05:30 |
VanessaE |
nore: dan pulled a jordan4ibanez. |
| 05:31 |
nore |
seriously? he did quit? |
| 05:31 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6472344/ |
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VanessaE |
see for yourself |
| 05:32 |
nore |
because he wasn't able to delete half a line that didn't work? |
| 05:32 |
hoodedice |
XD |
| 05:32 |
nore |
he deleted a github repo for that? he doesn't see the point of version control |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
yup. |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
you got it, bub. |
| 05:32 |
nore |
and then, he deleted everything... that's just not normal |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
meanwhile... |
| 05:33 |
* VanessaE |
sings along with "Ho, Ho, Fucking Ho" |
| 05:33 |
hoodedice |
"So why should I maintain a mod that I cannot fix and is completely broken and that no-one but you uses" |
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VanessaE |
nore: I grabbed what I could, but we lost these, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6470942/ |
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nore |
I was trying to help, and he says "you're an idiot" |
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hoodedice |
NO-ONE? |
| 05:33 |
hoodedice |
NO ONE!@!!! |
| 05:34 |
nore |
which one are those? |
| 05:34 |
hoodedice |
"at least I have a premium Mojang account so I can still do Minecraft" |
| 05:34 |
hoodedice |
GET THE F OUT!!! |
| 05:34 |
hoodedice |
XD |
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nore |
<Dan_D> #If it is not fixable,what should I do? |
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VanessaE |
nore: warning signs, 3d apple, zombies game, and etc |
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thexyz |
wow |
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nore |
^ that was half a line to delete |
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thexyz |
sorry i can't post reaction pics from my phone |
| 05:35 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
| 05:35 |
VanessaE |
oh right :) |
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thexyz |
but that's just retarded |
| 05:35 |
VanessaE |
http://forum.unity3d.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=65521&d=1377691686 |
| 05:35 |
VanessaE |
that about sums it up. |
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hoodedice |
Indeed. it does. |
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thexyz |
VanessaE: you didn't behave nice either |
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hoodedice |
She did. |
| 05:37 |
hoodedice |
Dan is not a king or something |
| 05:37 |
VanessaE |
thexyz: I carried myself as well as can be expected. that log shows dan's usual behavior when he gets pissed off at nothing at all. |
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hoodedice |
And he has done this once before |
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thexyz |
she could've told him about the old mods section |
| 05:38 |
VanessaE |
eh? |
| 05:38 |
thexyz |
instead of writing fuck in all caps |
| 05:38 |
VanessaE |
what's that got to do with anything? |
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thexyz |
if he doesn't want to maintain the mod, as he said |
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thexyz |
then it could be moved to old mods |
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VanessaE |
if he doesn't want to maintain a mod, he can ...oh I dunno...walk away? |
| 05:39 |
VanessaE |
I'm not going to spoon feed him. |
| 05:39 |
hoodedice |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6585 |
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hoodedice |
11-7 months ago |
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hoodedice |
(First post is edited) |
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arsdragonfly_ |
deleting a mod post just because of being unable to debug it sounds like something a 3-year-old would do |
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VanessaE |
no one but he made th decision to delete his shit, and if you've ever deleted a project from github, you know very well it takes a significant effort to do so. |
| 05:41 |
VanessaE |
and now in about two days' time, he'll come back, whining to be given a third chance. |
| 05:42 |
VanessaE |
last time, he felt the need to blame me, and even sent me a nastygram in email. |
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hoodedice |
Whatever |
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hoodedice |
http://sadtrombone.com/?play=true |
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VanessaE |
(idr how that even came about, either) |
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thexyz |
VanessaE: so this happened before? did you unban him? |
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VanessaE |
thexyz: last time? I expired his ban a few days early. Figured a second chance was okay. |
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VanessaE |
(it was a to-the-end-of-the-month temp ban) |
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VanessaE |
because at least last time, he didn't get stupid. |
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VanessaE |
he just got pissed. |
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VanessaE |
I can deal with the latter, but I have little tolerance for the two combined. |
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VanessaE |
(though this time, the ban is not my doing) |
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hoodedice |
Everyone gets banned sometime |
| 05:46 |
hoodedice |
I was week-long banned once too |
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hoodedice |
brb |
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arsdragonfly |
interesting |
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arsdragonfly |
i can now debug and develop mods on my phone now |
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VanessaE |
got the server going okay |
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VanessaE |
? |
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hoodedice |
wut? ide on a phone? |
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hoodedice |
VanessaE: What rule prevents a mod-maker from deleting his mod? |
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VanessaE |
it's a standing rule |
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VanessaE |
but it does need to be written down. |
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VanessaE |
"You should avoid removing content posted by yourself if people rely on it (releases, etc.)." |
| 06:08 |
VanessaE |
in the rules section |
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VanessaE |
this needs to be strengthened greatly, but I can't edit this page. |
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Miner_48er |
VanessaE we could get the code for the missing mods |
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VanessaE |
Miner: how? |
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hoodedice |
I think it's a question? |
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hoodedice |
Where are the rules again? |
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VanessaE |
unless someone has copies of the files, the only way is to rewrite the mods and pray the nodenames are right. |
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Miner_48er |
google cache |
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VanessaE |
hoodedice: "Rules" link at the top of a forum page. |
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hoodedice |
Ah yes. |
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VanessaE |
Miner_48er: hm, lemme give it a try. |
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hoodedice |
cache? |
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Miner_48er |
google has copies of most pages we would have to do it file by file though |
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Miner_48er |
like this |
| 06:11 |
Miner_48er |
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:hZCYv8Tj-sMJ:https://github.com/DanDuncombe/instabuild/blob/master/init.lua+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us |
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Miner_48er |
instabuild |
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hoodedice |
Darn, awesome |
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VanessaE |
well that's part of it anyway |
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hoodedice |
Can't do it with wayback - robots.txt |
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hoodedice |
Well, there's only the init.lua |
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hoodedice |
Can't get the textures or models out |
| 06:19 |
hoodedice |
VanessaE: http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/15633/how-to-modify-a-url-to-get-a-google-cached-version-of-page |
| 06:19 |
hoodedice |
tl;dr http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache: paste any url here |
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VanessaE |
I know. |
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hoodedice |
I didn't XD |
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Miner_48er |
great |
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VanessaE |
useless though if google doesn't cache images :( |
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hoodedice |
Do mods belong to the community or to the dev? |
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hoodedice |
Textures can be remade, I find the code to be more important |
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VanessaE |
the code belongs to the dev but the dev does not have the right to just take the code away |
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hoodedice |
Is that part of the licence? |
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hoodedice |
license(s) |
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VanessaE |
it's a standing rule for the forum, and some licenses like GPL also specify it |
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hoodedice |
hmm |
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Miner_48er |
cc license http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.0/ |
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hoodedice |
What about cornernote? |
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hoodedice |
Dude pulled off everything |
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Miner_48er |
restore what can be from copies |
| 06:28 |
VanessaE |
last I knew he was still banned (by his own request), but some of his stuff eventually got put back up |
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VanessaE |
but he ragequit before the forum file attachments feature was added |
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Miner_48er |
Menche do you have a copy of Zombie Survival [1.5]? |
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Menche |
huh? |
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VanessaE |
menche, do you have a copy of any of these? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6470942/ |
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us`0gb |
It's sad when people have to go out with a bang ... Why not leave peacefully? |
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VanessaE |
us`0gb: because it's more dramatic ? |
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VanessaE |
:P |
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us`0gb |
Who needs the drama though? Things are more pleasant without it. |
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Miner_48er |
Menche a few mods were deleted and we're seeing if we can find copies |
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Menche |
what author? |
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VanessaE |
Menche: CanDuncombe |
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Miner_48er |
DanD |
| 06:39 |
VanessaE |
er |
| 06:39 |
VanessaE |
DanDuncombe |
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hoodedice |
lol |
| 06:39 |
hoodedice |
VanessaE: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=119543#p119543 |
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Menche |
i have a copy of zombies by danduncombe |
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Miner_48er |
great |
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VanessaE |
Menche: zip + upload please? |
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VanessaE |
(or dcc, and I'll attach it to the post) |
| 06:41 |
Menche |
http://menche.us/files/zombies.zip |
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Menche |
that contains the files from the git repository |
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VanessaE |
thanks |
| 06:43 |
VanessaE |
attached and saved. |
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VanessaE |
any chance of you having the others also? :) |
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hoodedice |
VanessaE: are mods not uploaded to the repo? |
| 06:47 |
hoodedice |
Darn |
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VanessaE |
hoodedice: to what repo? |
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VanessaE |
you mean mmdb? |
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hoodedice |
yes |
| 06:49 |
hoodedice |
I thought the actual content was at the repo |
| 06:49 |
VanessaE |
two of them are (I forget which two) |
| 06:49 |
hoodedice |
So content is at github, and mmdb is just a front-end. Darn |
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VanessaE |
well |
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hoodedice |
]I say, make mmdb a github clone |
| 06:49 |
VanessaE |
if a file is uploaded to mmdb |
| 06:49 |
hoodedice |
XD |
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VanessaE |
it has it. |
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hoodedice |
hmm |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
but most of his weren't uploaded at all |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
some were on dropbox, some on mediafire, some on github, and a couple were via forum attachments already |
| 06:50 |
Menche |
his git repositories are gone. |
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VanessaE |
yup |
| 06:50 |
hoodedice |
hrm |
| 06:50 |
VanessaE |
he killed all his github repos and dropbox files |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
he thankfully failed to kill off his mediafire files, but I guess you can't search mediafire :( |
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hoodedice |
You can't ;/ |
| 06:52 |
hoodedice |
*:/ |
| 06:52 |
hoodedice |
Let's just get a hold of whatever we can get and upload it somewhere |
| 06:52 |
VanessaE |
already did. |
| 06:52 |
VanessaE |
forum attachments can't be deleted. |
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Menche |
uh, are the forums down? |
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Miner_48er |
what mod was on mediafire? |
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us`0gb |
Forum attachments cannot be deleted? THat's good to know. |
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VanessaE |
us`0gb: correct, except by moderators. |
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VanessaE |
Miner_48er: I forget which ones now |
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hoodedice |
Later |
| 06:55 |
VanessaE |
bye |
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Menche |
anyone else get this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=119538#p119538 |
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KByte |
This may be a silly quesion, but how does one connect the LV Cables to the switching station? We have also tried MV and HV cables. |
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Miner_48er |
KByte place it next to a cable |
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KByte |
Miner_48er: thats what we did, it is not connecting |
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Miner_48er |
place it over a cable |
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VanessaE |
Menche: no, that's a weird one all right |
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KByte |
Oh, got it. Thank you Miner_48er! |
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VanessaE |
oddly, it works fine for me |
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VanessaE |
(but I don't use arch) |
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Menche |
hmm, worked fine when i compiled it manually |
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VanessaE |
maybe you could share your build with bdjnk? |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, fold his realtest server up - show him the effect of leaving... |
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VanessaE |
I already pulled his admin access, revoked interact on all five, and removed his name from the servers' entries in the master ist |
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VanessaE |
list* |
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VanessaE |
(except that I still specify it's his fork of Realtest rather than sda97's) |
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Jordach |
i still proved he was a time bomb waiting to go |
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VanessaE |
yup |
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VanessaE |
anyway, he's unable to do any damage now. |
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Jordach |
oh, and the second segment of my short is done |
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VanessaE |
cool |
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* Jordach |
is ready to drop a tiny teaser |
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Jordach |
i may also drop mediagoblin for youtube as it's has a (insanely) larger userbase |
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Jordach |
reactor, Dan_D has left the community |
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Jordach |
you may now drop the fake event |
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Jordach |
paramat, hi norwich |
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VanessaE |
in two days, he'll be baqck |
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VanessaE |
back |
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VanessaE |
I can almost guarantee it |
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* Jordach |
knows virgin only is in norwich |
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paramat |
hehe |
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paramat |
Peacock, just pushed more efficient code, should be even faster https://github.com/paramat/asteroid |
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ugh, do i really have to be sick again |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Parfait Day! :-D |
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VanessaE |
bbl... bed. |
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VanessaE |
good morning, James :) |
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VanessaE |
night |
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OldCoder |
Too fast |
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OldCoder |
The horror :P |
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feels sick again |
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OldCoder |
Jordach, what is issue? |
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Jordach |
not sure if stomach ache or throwing |
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Jordach |
water helps |
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pitriss |
john_minetest: because it is just part of name. see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tags |
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john_minetest: I'm not core dev, so IDK.. But.. When you update to latest 0.4.8 then "MSVC" will be gone:D |
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EvergreenTree |
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jojoa1997 |
HI |
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reactor |
Morning. |
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harrison |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu3swsAqQdw |
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EvergreenTree |
I can think of a really hacky way of spawning trees, make a sapling that grows instantly and have it be generated via on_generated or voxelmanip |
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EvergreenTree |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
EvergreenTree: ket is for horses - YouTube |
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reactor |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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jojoa1997 |
hi |
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iqualfragile |
hi sfan5 |
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reactor |
Зфззйз йщшщлйлл ёььÑÑŒÑчьб. |
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BlockMen |
hi everyone |
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BlockMen |
finally my provider fixed my internet connection |
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thexyz |
iqualfragile: non free licenses should be disallowed |
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iqualfragile |
thexyz: yes, but is -nc realy nonfree? |
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thexyz |
yes it is |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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reactor |
Morning. |
| 16:09 |
Calinou |
hi |
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* Calinou |
found an "invert colors" option in geany |
| 16:18 |
Calinou |
nice :D |
| 16:20 |
thexyz |
> geany |
| 16:21 |
reactor |
Geany :( |
| 16:21 |
reactor |
Why don't you want to learn proper editors? |
| 16:22 |
Calinou |
http://images.wikia.com/mlpfanart/images/4/41/Rainbow_Dash_haters_gonna_hate.gif |
| 16:22 |
thexyz |
> gif artifacts |
| 16:23 |
Calinou |
gif doesn't support true colour |
| 16:23 |
Calinou |
except with big hacks |
| 16:23 |
sfan5 |
big hacks? |
| 16:23 |
EvergreenTree |
Calinou, brofist for geany |
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* Calinou |
brohooves EvergreenTree |
| 16:24 |
Calinou |
sfan5, I've seen true colour gifs |
| 16:24 |
EvergreenTree |
*brohoove |
| 16:24 |
Calinou |
very few... |
| 16:24 |
sfan5 |
people should use .gif for backward compatibility but provide hq APNGs too |
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thexyz |
Calinou: of course that's because of true color http://i.imgur.com/fCOn1mX.png |
| 16:24 |
EvergreenTree |
For smaller things (GUI) gedit is good |
| 16:25 |
iqualfragile |
thexyz: can you cange spotmod to 20? |
| 16:25 |
EvergreenTree |
Though I am learning vim |
| 16:25 |
sfan5 |
it's sad that nice things like http://octodex.github.com/mummytocat/ are distributed only in the shitty .gif format |
| 16:25 |
iqualfragile |
sfan5: .apng would be the right thing i guess |
| 16:25 |
sfan5 |
s/\.apng/.png/ |
| 16:26 |
iqualfragile |
but as long as 4chan does not support apng i do not think it will ever sucseed |
| 16:26 |
sfan5 |
it's still png |
| 16:26 |
sfan5 |
lol |
| 16:26 |
sfan5 |
apng are just additional sections in a png file |
| 16:26 |
Calinou |
chromium needs a plugin for apng |
| 16:26 |
thexyz |
iqualfragile: perhaps you should make a setting or something? |
| 16:26 |
Calinou |
only firefox supports it natively... |
| 16:26 |
sfan5 |
every standard-conform png reader/verifier shouldn't break |
| 16:26 |
thexyz |
which can be edited from admin panel |
| 16:27 |
iqualfragile |
thexyz: well, it is a setting, but yes, i, too think that it might be beneficial to be able to change that without contacting you every time |
| 16:28 |
EvergreenTree |
I agree, why is apng not supported? We need better quality animated images |
| 16:28 |
sfan5 |
apng is not supported by what? |
| 16:29 |
thexyz |
chrome |
| 16:29 |
thexyz |
and IE probably |
| 16:29 |
reactor |
I didn't know you're into fisting. |
| 16:30 |
thexyz |
it's supported by firefox and opera only it seems |
| 16:30 |
thexyz |
reactor: what? |
| 16:32 |
iqualfragile |
thexyz: i guess that was a bite reflex triggered by the mentioning of ie |
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EvergreenTree |
So sad: http://apngs.com/ |
| 16:38 |
EvergreenTree |
!title |
| 16:38 |
MinetestBot |
EvergreenTree: Animated PNGs are dead and will never return. |
| 16:39 |
EvergreenTree |
We needed something better then gifs, but you blew it internet |
| 16:39 |
thexyz |
the daily reminder http://i.imgur.com/0HvoC6a.jpg |
| 16:39 |
thexyz |
EvergreenTree: we have video |
| 16:39 |
thexyz |
it's better than gifs |
| 16:39 |
thexyz |
some sites already reencode gifs to h264 to save space |
| 16:40 |
EvergreenTree |
no, never use them for videos |
| 16:40 |
thexyz |
also lol, that texture doesn't even tile |
| 16:40 |
EvergreenTree |
They are only meant for small animations |
| 16:40 |
thexyz |
EvergreenTree: what? I'm telling about using <video> for gifs, not the other way |
| 16:40 |
EvergreenTree |
oh |
| 16:40 |
EvergreenTree |
thexyz, what website is that? it looks so much better then the current minetest.net |
| 16:41 |
thexyz |
EvergreenTree: no it's shit (as decided by the community) |
| 16:41 |
EvergreenTree |
It looks amazing |
| 16:41 |
thexyz |
EvergreenTree: but you can check it here http://minetest.ru/prowseed-minetest-net/ |
| 16:41 |
EvergreenTree |
Sometimes I'm with the community, but F*ck that, this is so much better |
| 16:42 |
thexyz |
yes |
| 16:42 |
EvergreenTree |
I wish someone would update that website though, I would use it instead of minetest.net |
| 16:42 |
thexyz |
people were saying it looks too professional |
| 16:43 |
thexyz |
or something like that |
| 16:43 |
EvergreenTree |
dafuq |
| 16:43 |
thexyz |
I don't know what's wrong with them, sorry |
| 16:43 |
EvergreenTree |
Too professional? really? |
| 16:43 |
thexyz |
I've been pushing this design for a while |
| 16:43 |
sfan5 |
too professional wut |
| 16:43 |
thexyz |
but instead we've got what we have |
| 16:43 |
EvergreenTree |
It would look amazing for an open source project to have such a professional website |
| 16:43 |
sfan5 |
the new design is 100% nicer |
| 16:43 |
sfan5 |
what does celeron55 say? |
| 16:44 |
EvergreenTree |
but no, we have to stick with the crappy one |
| 16:44 |
thexyz |
sfan5: what is "the new design"? |
| 16:44 |
thexyz |
the prowseed one is older than what we have |
| 16:44 |
thexyz |
check some logs |
| 16:44 |
sfan5 |
s/the new/the prowseed one/ |
| 16:44 |
thexyz |
people were hating on it |
| 16:44 |
sfan5 |
I forgot that it was older |
| 16:44 |
thexyz |
just grep "prowseed-minetest-net" |
| 16:44 |
EvergreenTree |
Now I see why the core devs hate community decisions |
| 16:45 |
reactor |
animated images are bad taste |
| 16:45 |
reactor |
They take ages to load. |
| 16:45 |
reactor |
And look distracting. |
| 16:45 |
reactor |
That shit needs to die. |
| 16:45 |
reactor |
As well as flash and the like. |
| 16:45 |
EvergreenTree |
Well, you are right about flash |
| 16:45 |
EvergreenTree |
ON forums especially |
| 16:46 |
thexyz |
hey look |
| 16:46 |
EvergreenTree |
I mean, just take a glimpse at the minecrap forums |
| 16:46 |
thexyz |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-02-19#i_2882563 |
| 16:46 |
thexyz |
i've got the logs |
| 16:46 |
EvergreenTree |
Get rid of the video in the center then |
| 16:46 |
EvergreenTree |
It would still look great |
| 16:47 |
thexyz |
well to think about it |
| 16:47 |
thexyz |
it seems c55 is the one who didn't like it, not the community |
| 16:47 |
thexyz |
and then some people started to support him |
| 16:48 |
thexyz |
or something like that, I don't remember now |
| 16:48 |
thexyz |
and the guy who's responsible for the current design said prowseed sucks, no comment here |
| 16:49 |
thexyz |
that's why we can't have good things |
| 16:49 |
BlockMen |
wut? where have i said it sucks? |
| 16:49 |
thexyz |
and maybe PA too but he's just always cocky |
| 16:50 |
thexyz |
BlockMen: well i'm playing with words but http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-06-06#i_3125902 |
| 16:51 |
BlockMen |
thexyz, "disagree" == "suck"? |
| 16:51 |
BlockMen |
really?! |
| 16:51 |
thexyz |
BlockMen: then you said it's worse than what we had |
| 16:51 |
thexyz |
and what we had, apparently, sucked, since you reworked it from scratch |
| 16:51 |
thexyz |
if that's not what you meant then I'm sorry |
| 16:52 |
BlockMen |
thexzy, i still think that: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-06-06#i_3125923 |
| 16:53 |
thexyz |
and I still think that prowseed's design will be better than anything we will ever have |
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* BlockMen |
disagrees again :P |
| 16:54 |
thexyz |
(assuming we'll never have prowseed's design) |
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* sfan5 |
agrees |
| 16:54 |
thexyz |
well then |
| 16:54 |
thexyz |
I don't really care anymore |
| 16:54 |
thexyz |
stuff's being decided by people who rarely do anything related to minetest, that's odd |
| 16:55 |
thexyz |
who don't listen to the community either |
| 16:55 |
BlockMen |
AFAIK celeron decides everything about the website |
| 16:56 |
BlockMen |
and i mean everything, my pull to let page member edit the nav is still waiting for comment or anithing |
| 16:56 |
BlockMen |
*anything |
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thexyz |
BlockMen: do you think the current design is better than prowseed's? |
| 17:01 |
thexyz |
that just means he doesn't give a shit anymore |
| 17:01 |
thexyz |
and expects you to ping him every day or something |
| 17:01 |
thexyz |
(which is quite reasonable given that he has life and stuff) |
| 17:01 |
BlockMen |
in general yes, but prowseed has the polish |
| 17:01 |
thexyz |
haha, alright |
| 17:02 |
thexyz |
at least I now have something to quote |
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* BlockMen |
wishes to polish current textures |
| 17:02 |
thexyz |
i just feel bad every time someone links to the main page |
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thexyz |
and now on reddit.. |
| 17:03 |
BlockMen |
thexyz, make a better image for the start page |
| 17:03 |
BlockMen |
that would help a lot |
| 17:03 |
BlockMen |
that is something we can change without celeron |
| 17:03 |
thexyz |
no, I'm going to boycott the current design |
| 17:04 |
BlockMen |
ok, then choose the worst option :D |
| 17:06 |
thexyz |
I'm doing that exactly because I don't want to improve what we have; I want prowseed's design which looks mature and professional |
| 17:07 |
thexyz |
this may sound childish but that's how it is |
| 17:08 |
thexyz |
Calinou: why is reddit so shit? |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
so shit? |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
oh, I posted Minetest 0.4.8 on it |
| 17:08 |
Calinou |
:p |
| 17:09 |
BlockMen |
http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-11-25#i_3454798 lol |
| 17:09 |
thexyz |
Calinou: I've replied constructively then some faggot nitpicked some shit and I've got downvoted |
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* Calinou |
now has above 500 comment karma! |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
thexyz, some people downvote because of opinion |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
deal with it |
| 17:09 |
thexyz |
BlockMen: yes, I don't care so much I'll be posting it every day |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
it's not like most people don't do tht |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
that |
| 17:09 |
thexyz |
http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1reyu6/minetest_048_released/cdmmq1s |
| 17:10 |
thexyz |
I guess I still have to learn how this stuff works |
| 17:10 |
thexyz |
but there's big banner saying to not downvote because of opinion, can't those people read? |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
people don't actually DO it |
| 17:11 |
Calinou |
I don't see that banner too :P |
| 17:11 |
Calinou |
(I use RES) |
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thexyz |
Calinou: and I have 4 times more link karma than you |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
heh |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
I've only posted a few links |
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sfan5 |
thexyz: I about 10x more link karma than you |
| 17:15 |
thexyz |
sfan5: I only post stuff I make |
| 17:15 |
sfan5 |
I only post stuff I make too |
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thexyz |
a lot of funny pics to minecraft subreddit, I see |
| 17:16 |
Calinou |
it used to be full of memes; since 2012 they have a policy on it |
| 17:16 |
thexyz |
are we done showing off? |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 17:18 |
thexyz |
that's nice |
| 17:18 |
sfan5 |
lol |
| 17:18 |
sfan5 |
fake passport spam in the forum |
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grrk-bzzt |
Hello |
| 17:25 |
Calinou |
hi grrk-bzzt |
| 17:26 |
Calinou |
grrk-bzzt, french guy :D |
| 17:26 |
grrk-bzzt |
I'm experiencing difficulties running Minetest 0.4.8 or the latest git on Arch-Linux x86_64 with an nVidia card and proprietary driver. |
| 17:26 |
Calinou |
grrk-bzzt, did you post on the forums about it? |
| 17:26 |
Calinou |
there seem to be at least 2 users with the same problem as you |
| 17:26 |
grrk-bzzt |
No |
| 17:26 |
grrk-bzzt |
Ok |
| 17:28 |
grrk-bzzt |
Calinou, you are right, I have this problem https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7828 |
| 17:28 |
grrk-bzzt |
Glad to see I'm not alone. |
| 17:30 |
Calinou |
I'm on xubuntu 13.10 with a GTX 570 and nvidia 319.32, irrlicht 1.8.0, no problems |
| 17:30 |
Calinou |
does it work for anyone with 1.8.1 irrlicht? |
| 17:30 |
thexyz |
grrk-bzzt: what nvidia driver version do you have? |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
someone else on the forums had a similar problem with a 331 driver |
| 17:32 |
thexyz |
I hope they do reboot after upgrading video card driver |
| 17:32 |
thexyz |
I have 331.20 here (gentoo) and can't confirm the issue |
| 17:33 |
thexyz |
did they tried building minetest from source? |
| 17:33 |
grrk-bzzt |
thexyz, I have the exact same value as the post on the forum |
| 17:34 |
grrk-bzzt |
thexyz, I'm experiencing this issue with both 0.4.8 and when compiling from source |
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grrk-bzzt |
And, yes thexyz, I do reboot after driver and kernel upgrade |
| 17:34 |
thexyz |
grrk-bzzt: do you experience this issue with other irrlicht-based software? |
| 17:34 |
thexyz |
grrk-bzzt: can you test other minetest versions? |
| 17:34 |
thexyz |
i.e. 0.3 |
| 17:35 |
grrk-bzzt |
I can't think of another irrlicht software except Minetest |
| 17:35 |
grrk-bzzt |
yes I can thexyz |
| 17:36 |
reactor |
? |
| 17:36 |
reactor |
But what is tuxkart? |
| 17:37 |
rubenwardy |
Hi all |
| 17:37 |
grrk-bzzt |
john_minetest, I'll try STK right away |
| 17:38 |
Calinou |
john_minetest, supertuxkart |
| 17:38 |
Calinou |
tuxcard is very, very old and abandoned |
| 17:40 |
thexyz |
Calinou: http://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/1reyu6/minetest_048_released/cdmp0xd?context=3 |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
ugh..... |
| 17:40 |
thexyz |
what do those people want ;_; |
| 17:40 |
thexyz |
spoonfeeding them was a mistake apparently |
| 17:41 |
thexyz |
back to /a/ |
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* Jordach |
is feeling like minetest-0.4.8-dev |
| 17:42 |
Jordach |
unstable |
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grrk-bzzt |
STK runs fine |
| 17:43 |
grrk-bzzt |
Minetest 0.3 can't compile |
| 17:43 |
grrk-bzzt |
I'll try with 0.4.0 |
| 17:43 |
Jordach |
grrk-bzzt, use 0.4.8 |
| 17:44 |
Jordach |
0.3 doesn't compile due to issues with GCC |
| 17:44 |
Jordach |
try http://minetest-classic.com |
| 17:44 |
grrk-bzzt |
Jordach, that's weird, what happenned? |
| 17:44 |
grrk-bzzt |
What is Minetest Classic? What is it supposed to be? |
| 17:44 |
Jordach |
grrk-bzzt, it became incompatible due to compiler changes |
| 17:45 |
Jordach |
grrk-bzzt, updated 0.3 rfork |
| 17:45 |
thexyz |
oh minetest classic |
| 17:46 |
grrk-bzzt |
That's strange that a compiler change breaks a game like Minetest. |
| 17:46 |
grrk-bzzt |
Was Minetest using some weird tricks? |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
Time for some C++ parsing! |
| 17:46 |
Jordach |
grrk-bzzt, it's also using an outdated jthread, classic uses the latest |
| 17:46 |
thexyz |
lol http://forum.minetest-classic.com/viewforum.php?id=4 |
| 17:47 |
thexyz |
grrk-bzzt: can you pastebin the error you get? |
| 17:47 |
grrk-bzzt |
thexyz, which one? |
| 17:48 |
thexyz |
<grrk-bzzt> Minetest 0.3 can't compile |
| 17:50 |
grrk-bzzt |
Well that's weird |
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grrk-bzzt |
Hum so |
| 17:53 |
grrk-bzzt |
0.4.0 is compiling and shows no graphical error |
| 17:53 |
grrk-bzzt |
Still it label itself as "0.4.8" |
| 17:53 |
grrk-bzzt |
Anyway |
| 17:53 |
sapier |
Any volonteers for betatesting upcoming animals modpack 2.3 release (2.2.90 is beta test) |
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grrk-bzzt |
thexyz, http://0bin.net/paste/Cx97YE-GbUE+Msru#CcjFRAHJwVPGadrw2lCLNsG6Qv/84qtAimlmm2EOgFE= |
| 17:57 |
EvergreenTree |
grrk-bzzt, use http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ |
| 17:58 |
grrk-bzzt |
Why? |
| 17:58 |
EvergreenTree |
nvm |
| 17:58 |
thexyz |
grrk-bzzt: meh, I guess Irrlicht is not really backwards compatible |
| 17:58 |
grrk-bzzt |
Maybe |
| 17:59 |
thexyz |
you can of course check different 0.4 releases |
| 17:59 |
thexyz |
grrk-bzzt: can you enter the game? |
| 18:00 |
thexyz |
oh, I see, it crashes |
| 18:00 |
grrk-bzzt |
Yes |
| 18:00 |
grrk-bzzt |
So, I don't know how to help you fix that |
| 18:00 |
thexyz |
I guess it worked fine in the past? |
| 18:01 |
grrk-bzzt |
Yes |
| 18:02 |
thexyz |
and perhaps you have an idea after which update it started failing? |
| 18:05 |
thexyz |
Calinou: thanks <3 |
| 18:06 |
Calinou |
thanks for what? :p |
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| 18:08 |
Jordach |
> reactos/developer/unC0Rr |
| 18:08 |
Jordach |
REACT OS EVERYBODY |
| 18:08 |
unC0Rr |
O_o |
| 18:08 |
unC0Rr |
I'm mostly hedgewars developer actually |
| 18:08 |
unC0Rr |
haven't contributed to reactos much |
| 18:09 |
Jordach |
unC0Rr, i occasionally play hedgewars |
| 18:09 |
reactor |
React OS sucks balls. |
| 18:09 |
reactor |
Why clone crap? |
| 18:09 |
unC0Rr |
how do you like? |
| 18:10 |
reactor |
I don't like the idea of reimplementing a bad operating system. |
| 18:10 |
unC0Rr |
it isn't bad |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
unC0Rr, run virtualbox inside react os and install windows :> |
| 18:10 |
Jordach |
so i heard you like windows, so i out windows in your windows |
| 18:10 |
reactor |
It is bad, and rewrite is not gonna fix it. |
| 18:10 |
unC0Rr |
haha :D |
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rubenwardy |
grrk-bzzt is using -j1. As a general rule you should use -j(number of cores)+1. Does that mean grrk-bzzt has 0 cores? |
| 18:12 |
Jordach |
monopoly anyone? |
| 18:13 |
thexyz |
reactor: please no bully |
| 18:14 |
unC0Rr |
speaking of minetest, 0.4.8 crashes for me in brand new world when I punch a tree |
| 18:14 |
unC0Rr |
11:35:27: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:tree at (-9,7,-20) |
| 18:14 |
unC0Rr |
Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. |
| 18:14 |
unC0Rr |
(gdb) bt |
| 18:14 |
unC0Rr |
#0 0x0a19113a in ?? () from C:\WINDOWS\system32\ig4dev32.dll |
| 18:14 |
unC0Rr |
that's it |
| 18:14 |
grrk-bzzt |
rubenwardy, I always compile with -j(cores+1) but compiling with more that one core usually mess up the output when there's a compiling error. |
| 18:15 |
Jordach |
Exio4, monopoly? |
| 18:15 |
grrk-bzzt |
(error, not warning) |
| 18:16 |
grrk-bzzt |
Why are people talking about ReactOS here? |
| 18:16 |
sapier |
ig4dev? |
| 18:16 |
reactor |
Magnetic monopole? Good luck finding it! |
| 18:16 |
unC0Rr |
I have no idea what that lib is |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
!g "ig4dev32.dll" |
| 18:16 |
unC0Rr |
I just downloaded windows binary from the site and tried to play |
| 18:16 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12126341/opengl-error-unhandled-exception-at-0x0251d09f-ig4dev32-dll-in-gltest-exe-0x |
| 18:17 |
Jordach |
unC0Rr, ^ |
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grrk-bzzt |
I'm not trying to be mean but, the concept of Russian developpers building an operating system that is binary-compatible with Windows actually makes me laygh. |
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thexyz |
why? |
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unC0Rr |
Jordach: I definitely have graphics drivers installed, in hedgewars I get hardware acceleration, quake 3 has 125 fps too |
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unC0Rr |
but yeah, intel driver |
| 18:18 |
grrk-bzzt |
Because on one hand, Russia is well known for software piracy. And that operating system sounds like the perfect legal trick not to pay Windows but kinda using it. |
| 18:18 |
grrk-bzzt |
And on the other hand… well it's a pretty terrible idea to "clone windows" as unC0Rr said. |
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unC0Rr |
I didn't say that |
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grrk-bzzt |
It's the idea, sorry for misquoting. |
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thexyz |
and wine sounds like the perfect legal trick not to pay windows but kinda using it |
| 18:19 |
thexyz |
and linux sounds like the perfect legal trick not to pay windows but kinda using it |
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thexyz |
and |
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thexyz |
and I don't understand all that hate over reactos |
| 18:19 |
unC0Rr |
not to pay unix* |
| 18:19 |
grrk-bzzt |
I probably expressed myself wrong. |
| 18:19 |
unC0Rr |
people like to hate |
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grrk-bzzt |
Nevermind. |
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unC0Rr |
have no idea what is the thing they hate |
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thexyz |
moreover, people say crap like "they should do that instead" (s/that/contribute to wine/, although they already do) |
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unC0Rr |
having* |
| 18:20 |
thexyz |
it's good to know that reactos devs are mature enough to ignore those people |
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grrk-bzzt |
You have strong support for that OS thexyz? |
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EvergreenTree |
Calinou, want to play monopoly? |
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thexyz |
it's a nice open source project which definitely contributes to the enhancement of the society so why not support it? |
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grrk-bzzt |
I don't see it that way but ok. |
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grrk-bzzt |
I was expecting you telling me you use it actually. |
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grrk-bzzt |
I never met someone using ReactOS to be honnest. |
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* Jordach |
neither |
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unC0Rr |
because it isn't stable enough |
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grrk-bzzt |
And so, if it was stable? |
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Jordach |
i've used the VM to piss around in, but no full time usage |
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thexyz |
and the hate goes on |
| 18:23 |
unC0Rr |
if it was stable, I guess many people would use it |
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grrk-bzzt |
I'm really asking questions thexyz I know little about ReactOS. |
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unC0Rr |
there are already some projects I heard of which use reactos to run limited amount of software |
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unC0Rr |
some specialized devices |
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unC0Rr |
but really, I'm not the right person to talk about recent reactos activity to |
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unC0Rr |
I don't follow its development for maybe 3 or 4 years already |
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Calinou |
EvergreenTree, ok |
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Calinou |
Jordach, gimme link to your capitalism build |
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Calinou |
I'm on desktop |
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grrk-bzzt |
?? |
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Jordach |
EvergreenTree, leave game |
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EvergreenTree |
I did |
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EvergreenTree |
grrk-bzzt, playing monopoly |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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grrk-bzzt |
I realised that a little late |
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EvergreenTree |
cya |
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dafull97 |
heys guys |
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iqualfragile |
hello dafull97 |
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dafull97 |
Hello iqualfragile |
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rubenwardy |
NODEBOX name -0.5 -0.5 -0.5 0.5 0.5 0.5 |
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rubenwardy |
what is the best way to extract "name" and the numbers? |
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rubenwardy |
split, or something else? |
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iqualfragile |
rubenwardy: in that case? i guess split would be allright |
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rubenwardy |
it is cpp, mind |
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jojoa1997 |
hi |
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Jordach |
jojoa1997, check forum pms |
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jojoa1997 |
k |
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jojoa1997 |
oh i already saw your pm but cant test it atm or soon |
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* Jordach |
needs to rest |
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rubenwardy |
The load parser works! |
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rubenwardy |
Wooo ho! |
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sapier |
load parser? |
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rubenwardy |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=119618#p119618 |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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rubenwardy |
Hi! |
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rubenwardy |
bye all |
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iqualfragile |
hi PilzAdam |
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Eadword |
Hello, I am trying to figure out how to get 100% out of a geothermal generator, the only instructions I could find say to put the water and lava on opposite corners but I can only get one water and one lava directly across from each other without creating obsidian and it only generate 25% because of it. |
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Eadword |
sorry, not corners, faces |
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PilzAdam |
are you talking about a special mod? |
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Eadword |
Yes, the Techic mod |
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PilzAdam |
there are some mods that only turn lava in obsidian when its directly touching water IIRC |
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Eadword |
What seems to happen is when they are only touching by a corner the lava becomes obsidian yet this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsAJ-ux-Ryk must be out of date since it does not have that problem, I set it up exactly like that. |
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Calinou |
EvergreenTree, Jordach, monopoly? |
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EvergreenTree |
I think Jordach is sleeping |
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Calinou |
ok |
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Calinou |
I started one |
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PilzAdam |
Eadword, as I said, there are mods that change this behaviour |
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Eadword |
We did not add any that we know of that would change it, I am assuming therefor that we need to add one to change it, could you tell me the name pelase |
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Eadword |
*please |
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PilzAdam |
I dont know the name, but Im pretty sure there is one |
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Eadword |
OK, thanks |
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PilzAdam |
I guess VanessaE knows it |
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Calinou |
I have a monopoly game started if anyone wants to join |
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BlockMen |
bye everyone |
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EvergreenTree |
john_minetest, It might be |
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EvergreenTree |
I think it is going along quite well |
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EvergreenTree |
and also, #minetest-classic |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
| 23:41 |
VanessaE |
Specifically, gloopblocks changes the behavior of lava/water so avoid the corner-to-corner cooling bug. |
| 23:42 |
VanessaE |
and yes, it's a bug if lava cools like that without actually touching water. |
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Partmedia |
o.o somebody redesigned the website? |
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