Time Nick Message 01:37 Peacock could we replace lua error (null) with PC LOAD LETTER? would at least provide comic relief if not useful information :P 01:38 VanessaE /dev/lp0 on fire 01:39 Peacock lol ive tracked down my error to one function, but for lack of details, this could take awhile XD 01:42 EvergreenTree lol: 01:42 EvergreenTree Also, last sunday we had some tornados in the midwest 01:42 EvergreenTree I'm lucky my house didn't get destroyed 01:42 EvergreenTree did you make sure you sudo house 01:42 EvergreenTree because then you're house is rooted... 01:42 EvergreenTree I got owned 01:42 VanessaE yeah but tornadoes have a tendency to uproot trees...... ;) 01:42 EvergreenTree Thanks a lot MinetestBot. :P 01:42 Peacock be thankful it wasn't a sharknado 01:43 EvergreenTree I honestly think a sharknado would have been more interesting 01:44 Peacock well you might have tornados in the midwest, but compared to english weather and cooking, i'd rather take my chances with a tornado/sharknado XD 01:45 EvergreenTree I've heard the weather in england is pretty crappy 01:45 Peacock foggy, soggy and rainy 01:45 EvergreenTree Someone I know said barbecues are a special occasion 01:45 EvergreenTree It stops raining, GET OUT THE BARBECUE SAUCE! 01:45 VanessaE heh 01:46 EvergreenTree Have to go now, see you guys later 01:46 VanessaE bye 01:49 ShadowNinja Peacock: Are you using latest? My pcall_errfunc patch might help with that. 01:50 Peacock i figured out the problem, it was a namespace thing 01:50 Peacock im used to writing functions like: local fname = function() 01:50 Peacock but i copied a function fname() 01:50 Peacock and didn't notice it was global 01:50 VanessaE ShadowNinja: isn't that merged yet? 01:52 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Yes, it is, but only recently. That's why I asked him if he was using latest. 01:52 ShadowNinja Peacock: "local function fname()" 01:52 Peacock yeah but like i said, i usually write them the other way :P 01:52 VanessaE oh ok 01:52 Peacock (hence why i didn't notice) 01:52 * VanessaE <--- slow 01:53 * Peacock attaches jumper cables to V 01:53 Peacock that should give a speed boost 01:53 VanessaE of course, Peacock has a habit of using year-old versions of the game...... 01:53 VanessaE s/game/engine/ 01:53 VanessaE ;) 01:53 Peacock why not, less broken stuff in those lol 01:54 Peacock judging from the logs there's still disagreement about weather and finite being included 01:54 VanessaE less cool stuff too 01:55 Peacock well if theres' one thing i realized playing MT classic is that you don't always need the latest and greatest to have a good gaming experience 01:55 Peacock even you noticed the performance, thats why i started a new game from scratch (space) 02:14 MinetestBot GIT: metaducky AT gmail DOT com commited to minetest/minetest: fix gettext compile issues under win32 0930911efa 2013-11-18T18:11:52-08:00 http://git.io/hsQzfA 02:14 VanessaE ho the fuck metaducky? 02:14 VanessaE who* 02:14 VanessaE :) 02:14 Peacock metaducky is a hoe XD 02:15 VanessaE he's a farming implement? 02:15 VanessaE :P 02:16 Peacock well hopefully someone implements tractors soon so that joke can get old lol 02:16 Peacock hoes/hoes i mean lol 03:06 Peacock done, i solved my space probe problem with an lvm scanner http://s23.postimg.org/ai7qxvo6z/Screenshot_181113_10_01_07_PM.png 03:06 VanessaE a map mod? 03:07 Peacock 4aiman's mapp, modified to use lvm, offer a larger view and move (like google maps) 03:07 VanessaE nice 03:07 VanessaE release that bastard so the rest of us can play with it :)_ 03:08 Peacock doesn't pa have a map or radar mod already? 03:09 VanessaE don't remember 03:11 Peacock i dont know how much use this would be for non space mods, it doesn't work the same way as 4aiman's original 03:11 Peacock *non space games 03:11 Peacock or maps 03:15 paramat O_O full moon 03:15 VanessaE hi 03:15 Peacock time to feed on helpless pedestrians 03:18 paramat morning :) it is here in the UK, im up early? ... er very late? 03:18 Peacock well i awoke at 19hrs lol 03:31 paramat P, these shadow glitches you see in asteroid lvm/pm, could they be shadows from asteroids above which have been generated but have not yet appeared because the player has not 'looked' at them yet? Also perhaps test with +16 -16 removed from 'calc lighting'? 03:31 Peacock do i need p1/p2 at all? it doesnt say so in the api.txt 03:32 Peacock did you find any such shadows yourself? 03:32 paramat relevant discussion on shadows http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-11-17#i_3440850 could be a problem 03:33 paramat i didnt find glitchy shadows in the pre-LVM version 03:33 paramat if there was a shadow there was something above casting it 03:33 * paramat looks at code 03:34 Peacock well it's definately something to do with calc_lighting 03:35 Peacock i wish we could simply disable shadows all together, they've never worked properly lol 03:35 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/s84lxBY.png 03:38 paramat yeah api.txt doesnt mention p1,p2, but those seem to be required in use 03:40 paramat so it seems possible shadows will get glitchy and ugly in an asteroid realm :( 03:42 paramat "set_lighting(light): Set the lighting within the VoxelManip" interesting ... 04:35 paramat Peacock, hmm-mm's LVM example has "minetest.set_mapgen_params({mgname="singlenode", flags="nolight", flagmask="nolight"})" at the beginning, not certain what 'nolight' does but might help 04:36 Peacock yeah, just noticed while exploring, when i go below y <0, all the asteroids are dark 04:37 Peacock (another example of minetest being hardcoded for one game lol) 04:39 Peacock do you know how i'd set it to not get fugly shadows on the lower half of the map? 04:45 Peacock is it wise to set SCAL5 any lower than 16? or should i rather reduce ORECHA? 04:47 paramat no idea about dark asteroids, i think we may need hmm-mm's help :) 04:48 paramat SCAL5 less than 16 will make the perlin ore distribution too fine, i would say 32-128, i chose 128 to create asteroids rich in particular ores 04:49 paramat since asteroids are apparently super rich in ores an ORECHA of 3*3*3 mght be a good idea 04:50 paramat noise5 now varies from -1 to 1 in asteroid lvm/pm so you should adjust your ore noise ranges accordingly 04:50 Peacock the thing is i need each asteroid to have a variety of ores, maybe not all 7 of them, but 4-5 would be good 04:51 paramat OCTA5 = 1 means noise varies from -1 to 1 04:51 Peacock thats already done :-) 04:51 Peacock i adapted your 0.11 lvmversion 04:52 paramat ah okay SCAL5 defines the distance over which you will find all ores (roughly) 04:52 paramat so i would go 32 or 64 04:53 Peacock i set scal5 to 16 and orecha to 3pow3, im just looking now for a big asteroid to scan it for ores 04:54 paramat you certainly need the singlenode mapgen to disable normal landscape at y = 0 04:54 paramat otherwise the normal terrain is generated then immediately removed by asteroid mod 04:54 Peacock yeah, whats even weirder is sometimes i arrive at a new area, the asteroid is dark and parts of it lighten up 05:15 GNADev|zRokh hi 05:16 GNADev|zRokh biggums, i want to pay Pokemon with somebody (via emulation)! 05:16 GNADev|zRokh who's up for it? 05:16 GNADev|zRokh i have a lvl 42 Charizard, 17 Machomp... 05:16 GNADev|zRokh those are the main ones :D 05:16 GNADev|zRokh others are about 5-11 05:17 paramat Peacock, add the first 3 lines of this code http://pastebin.com/x0DFYXQD into asteroid mod just before the on-gen function, this will make the mod force singlenode mapgen 05:18 paramat perhaps that will help with lighting too 05:18 GNADev|zRokh paramat, when you look in a trainers eyes you have to fight! O.O 05:19 paramat thanks GNAD for the invite but not interested :) 05:19 GNADev|zRokh it's GNADev 05:19 GNADev|zRokh GNA Dev 05:19 VanessaE meh, go to a pokemon channel for that 05:19 GNADev|zRokh not GNAD 05:19 GNADev|zRokh ok :D 05:20 GNADev|zRokh #pokemon is empty...... 05:20 Peacock speakings of gnads, my wife hit me in the gnads yesterday, it hurt :( 05:21 paramat heh 05:21 VanessaE Peacock: she has good aim ;) 05:21 Peacock this is why i dont like her assisting me in the kitchen lol 05:21 Peacock at leas the pan wasn't warm lol 05:22 GNADev|zRokh yeah, i bet she does cause like i said, you have a peacock... 05:23 paramat hmmmm, sorry to disturb you, any thoughts on the last 2 hours of mapgen chat? ^^^ 05:23 Peacock well GNA, at least i have someone else than my mother to blow me ;p 05:24 GNADev|zRokh my mom is like 250km from me... 05:24 GNADev|zRokh so nah dood... 05:24 GNADev|zRokh i'm 14 and i dunz need blowjobs yet 05:24 Peacock then you're having less fun than i was at 14 lol 05:25 GNADev|zRokh no, im just not a rapist 05:25 GNADev|zRokh VanessaE, Like dis chat? :DF 05:25 Peacock ive heard alot of things from geeks, abstinence, asexuality, but rape-avoidance is a new excuse for not getting laid lol 05:26 GNADev|zRokh what if i told you that i'm not a slut? nor am i a player 05:26 Peacock so you don't get laid :P thats a common marker for every troll i've met 05:27 * GNADev|zRokh isnt a troll, he just doesnt let every single mother fucker push him around 05:27 Peacock is that referring to women or people on the internets? 05:28 Peacock in both case i'd say, size issues 05:28 GNADev|zRokh all of dem single assholes ;) 05:28 GNADev|zRokh wut? srsly? 05:28 GNADev|zRokh you'r gonna talk to a 14 year old about size? 05:29 GNADev|zRokh oh snap! 05:29 Peacock 14? the who's picture were you using on the forums? 05:29 Peacock *then 05:29 GNADev|zRokh that's me like 3 years ago 05:30 GNADev|zRokh wanna see my new one? that i did a month ago? 05:30 GNADev|zRokh http://ask.fm/RagnarLaud 05:30 Peacock the forum pic looked like a balding 30 year old 05:30 GNADev|zRokh why should i put you'r photo as my avatar? 05:31 Peacock sure go ahead 05:31 GNADev|zRokh with what/? 05:32 Peacock well you're gonna have to fire up the old brain and figure that one out yourself 05:32 GNADev|zRokh ok, let me say this: 05:33 GNADev|zRokh You'r answer to a question was not valid. Please try again. 05:33 Peacock i already knew you're special ed 05:33 GNADev|zRokh MANKEY!!! :D 05:33 GNADev|zRokh i'm not ed you dumbass 05:34 GNADev|zRokh this is like a trainer battle... i have a lvl 42 Charizard and you has a lvl 11 Pidgey... 05:34 GNADev|zRokh and everybody knows that you can not run from a trainer battle! :D 05:35 GNADev|zRokh you know your gonna lose, but you just don't give up 05:35 Peacock well if i could speak ghey i'd know what you're talking about 05:35 GNADev|zRokh ghey? 05:36 Peacock pokemon, that's furries right? 05:36 GNADev|zRokh i dont speak ghey (whatever it is), i speak almost perfect English nigga! 05:36 GNADev|zRokh both grammar and spelling 05:36 GNADev|zRokh and to you, my good sir, i say this: 05:36 GNADev|zRokh Suck-a-dick, Gavin, Suck-a-dick! 05:37 Peacock on behalf of the gay nigra association, we thank you 05:37 GNADev|zRokh oh, so you're a gay nigga? 05:38 GNADev|zRokh you're a disgrace to all black people that walk the earth 05:38 Peacock lol 05:38 Peacock that was easy 05:38 GNADev|zRokh don't you dare, she started it 05:39 GNADev|zRokh that's what i wanted to say (maybe got to) before i got kicked 05:39 Peacock i've been trained in the advanced arts of counter-trolling, resistance is futile 05:39 GNADev|zRokh Peacock: that's what she said 05:40 Peacock we're not talking about your mother 05:40 GNADev|zRokh [07:38] that was easy [07:39] Peacock: that's what she said 05:40 GNADev|zRokh so suck it 05:40 VanessaE knock it off, both of you 05:40 GNADev|zRokh tell it to her! 05:41 GNADev|zRokh dat bitch 05:41 Peacock lol aiight i've had my fun 05:41 NakedFury most of us are troll proof here 05:41 GNADev|zRokh yeah, whatever, if you think fainting you'r 6 pokemon is fun then i'm no guy to say it isnt... <:o 05:42 VanessaE and for the record, your grammar sucks. bad. 05:42 Peacock im not into bestiality, so discussing pokemon is pointless 05:42 NakedFury yeah low level troll 05:43 VanessaE NakedFury: the force is weak in this one. 05:43 GNADev|zRokh VanessaE, dunz think so, i have like 20 friends that live in Tennessee and who i see every summer... they never complain 05:43 Peacock my Keylsey Grammar is strong 05:43 Peacock *Kelsey 05:44 GNADev|zRokh lvl 65 > lvl 14, no shit 05:44 VanessaE I spotted at least 7 glaring grammar errors in that one sentence. 05:44 GNADev|zRokh what sentence? 05:44 Peacock Tennessee? LOL so who's going to your and your cousins' wedding/ 05:44 VanessaE (not that I'm a whole lot better, but I don't go 'round saying my English is perfect, either) 05:45 GNADev|zRokh bunz == don't... 05:45 GNADev|zRokh i speak like that all the time 05:45 GNADev|zRokh dunz* 05:45 Peacock Dunn's Smoked Meat sandwiches 05:45 VanessaE [11-19 00:43] VanessaE, [1] dunz[2] think so, i[3] have like 20[4] friends that[5] live in Tennessee[6] and who[7] i[8] see every summer...[9] they[10] never complain[11] 05:45 Peacock lol 05:46 GNADev|zRokh i never said it was perfect, i said it was almost perfect... 05:46 GNADev|zRokh what's the difference between i and I? 05:46 GNADev|zRokh nothing really... 05:46 Peacock whereas i'm godlike, bow before my greatness 05:46 GNADev|zRokh sorry, I'm mot gay 05:47 Peacock i said bow, not bend over like your normally do 05:47 GNADev|zRokh hey, maybe ask NakedFury to suck you'r balls? 05:47 Peacock but then he'd have to displace your mother 05:47 NakedFury ill pass 05:47 Peacock lol 05:47 Peacock thank god 05:47 Peacock no offense :P 05:47 GNADev|zRokh sure, Peacock, everybody knows that she loves sex with random people 05:47 Peacock well wasn't that how you were conceived? 05:47 GNADev|zRokh just I'm not going to insult her 05:48 GNADev|zRokh no, it wasnt... 05:48 VanessaE 1: failure to capitalize the first word of the sentence proper. 2. dunz is not a word. 3. failure to capitalize "I". 4. failure to spell-out a single-word numericla value. 5. using 'that' where 'who' is called for. 6. Missing comma. 7. arguable, who vs. whom. 8, failure to capitalize "I". 9, failure to end the sentence with a period (ellipses are not warranted here). 10, Failure to capitalize the first word of th 05:48 Peacock oh right she was paid 05:48 VanessaE e sentence. 11, missing period, again. 05:48 GNADev|zRokh i'll let you know that my dad was the first one my mom had 05:48 VanessaE so there. 05:48 VanessaE (and of course I invoke Muphry's Law here) 05:49 GNADev|zRokh Ok, VanessaE, How is this? Is this better? Because I think it is. 05:49 GNADev|zRokh oh fuck...... the how was capitalized.... :D 05:49 VanessaE FAIL. 05:50 Peacock lol 05:50 VanessaE You also started a sentence with 'because'. 05:50 VanessaE :P 05:50 Peacock the proper would be 'cuz' 05:50 Peacock as in "i married my cuzin in Tennessee" which you'll be needing later :P 05:51 GNADev|zRokh Peacock: cuz is not a word 05:51 GNADev|zRokh Talk about faulty grammar. 05:51 VanessaE FAIL x2 :) 05:51 GNADev|zRokh I don't live in Tennessee, I live in Estonia 05:51 VanessaE FAIL x3 05:51 GNADev|zRokh . 05:51 GNADev|zRokh fuck you, VanessaE. 05:51 VanessaE FAIL x4 05:51 VanessaE :D 05:52 paramat *sigh* 05:52 GNADev|zRokh i don't give a shit! i've got to go, the bus is leaving in 15 minutes 05:52 GNADev|zRokh See you later, mother fuckers. 05:52 VanessaE then go, and stop by a library on your way 05:53 Peacock lol 05:53 VanessaE Pick up a book on remedial English grammar. :D 05:53 GNADev|zRokh No thanks, don't read that much. 05:53 VanessaE It shows. :P 05:53 GNADev|zRokh my English (grammar and other) is A, Math is A, Physics is B+.. 05:54 GNADev|zRokh my Estonian is a B 05:54 Peacock yeah but who uses Estonian? lol 05:54 GNADev|zRokh And that's because i dont speak it that much 05:54 GNADev|zRokh I do, because I live in Estonia, you Dumbass! 05:54 VanessaE Peacock: That's some country off north of Outer Mongolia or something, isn't it? :) 05:54 GNADev|zRokh no, it;s between Finland and Latvia 05:54 Peacock yeah i think they were either pwned by the soviets or the americans at some point 05:54 GNADev|zRokh well bye 05:55 * VanessaE makes an invisible chalk mark in the "win" column. 05:55 Peacock If there's somethin' strange in your neighborhood 05:55 Peacock Who ya gonna call (trollbusters) 05:56 Peacock pizza's here, this was fun, but bbl :P 05:57 VanessaE cya 06:15 hmmmm shit 06:15 hmmmm paramat just left I was going to answer him 06:15 hmmmm the answers to the questions: 06:16 hmmmm the lua documentation doesn't mention the minp and maxp parameters to calc_lighting because they're not existing any longer. i removed them because the lua modder would never need that sort of power and it'd only serve to screw up the lighting, i'm not sure if a modder can use it a way other than i originally had it that'd work as intended 06:16 VanessaE your timing is impeccable, as always ;) 06:17 hmmmm set_lighting sets lighting in the voxelmanip exactly to the light you specify, does not calculate 06:17 hmmmm the nolight flag is a mapgen parameter that disables all lighting computations, which is very helpful for when you're doing a total mapgen replacement in lua 06:19 hmmmm in order to not get lighting glitches, you have to either set the nolight flag or call vmanip:set_lighting({day=0, night=0}) before calling vmanip:calc_lighting() in order to get correct lighting results 07:01 paramat thanks hmm-mm :) 07:01 * paramat reads ... 07:02 paramat oh and this http://i.imgur.com/m9FDu9A.png 07:03 VanessaE paramat: idk why but there's something appealing about that 'vertical' realm 07:03 VanessaE I like it 07:03 paramat good 07:03 paramat swimming up the water is fun 07:03 paramat its also v disorientating to fly over this realm 07:04 paramat oops (very) 07:04 VanessaE I imagine so :) 07:04 VanessaE now if only you could figure out how to redirect gravity :) 07:04 VanessaE those ringworld realms would be more viable 07:11 paramat yeah a square ringworld would be great :) 07:13 VanessaE who said it has to be square? :) 07:13 VanessaE imagine trying to walk over land that's tilted roughly 45 degrees :) 07:13 VanessaE imagine trying to RENDER said landscape :) 07:17 VanessaE bbl. bedtime. 07:28 troller paramat, you must enable liquid_finite ;) 07:28 troller ans floating sand 07:37 paramat aha sand should be non falling, thanks 07:39 paramat (... actually i see it is already, good) 07:49 paramat looks like EU is waking up ... are there 2 core devs here that would like to finally update the wieldhand with this texture? https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/218 07:49 paramat I'll be submitting a matching character skin soon 07:52 paramat both the wieldhand and character skin urgently need updating, lets do it for 0.4.8! =) 07:53 paramat "hey Ma! ... moon's goin' down!" 08:11 paramat Peacock, see hmm-mm's lighting advice earlier in this channel (in case you didnt) :) 09:18 proller http://jsfiddle.net/uzMPU/ 09:47 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Have a Bad Day Day! :-/ 12:30 sfan5 hi everyone 12:39 pitriss sfan5: hi:) 12:40 pitriss sfan5: Please can you point me to some repo with that local save feature? 12:44 pitriss ah, i probably found it.. it is separate branch 14:23 BlockMen hi everyone 14:43 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest: Fix modmanager screenshot path 0c8bf7cf94 2013-11-19T06:39:40-08:00 http://git.io/umNzDw 16:07 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 16:20 issa2013 hello 16:27 sfan5 Apple includes 72 PNGs with different color iPod nano 7G models in the firmware of the iPod nano 7G 16:29 issa2013 burn apple 16:29 sfan5 no 16:29 sfan5 apple is nice 16:30 sfan5 unlike microsoft they open sources of their OS 16:30 issa2013 apple microsoft sucks 16:30 issa2013 just linux rocks 16:33 Jordach issa2013, if there wasn't the other companies, Linux wouldn't exist 16:33 Jordach Linux was born out of a need for freedom 16:34 * sfan5 agrees 16:34 issa2013 no companies just communities 16:34 issa2013 this the best things communities of pasion people 16:34 Peacock no companies? lol i aint touching that one 16:35 PilzAdam issa2013, because of people like you people think that Free Software is Communism 16:36 Jordach Peacock, if Windows didn't exist, Linux would follow suit 16:36 issa2013 like american people thinks france is communisme 16:36 Jordach Calinou, ^ troll alarm 16:36 issa2013 ah ah ah 16:36 Calinou hi 16:36 Peacock let's just say alot of corporate money went into unix and linux, some of the best oss apps have corporate funding :P 16:37 Calinou apple is nice 16:37 Calinou unlike microsoft they open sources of their OS 16:37 VanessaE hi 16:37 Calinou they don't 16:37 Peacock and, communism != socialism 16:37 issa2013 sorry PilzAdam i prefer comunities of people loke captialism 16:37 Calinou both iOS and OS X are proprietary in the vast majority ;) 16:38 sfan5 Calinou: are you sure? http://opensource.apple.com/release/os-x-109/ 16:38 sfan5 they even opened their OS kernel 16:38 Calinou their kernel, yes 16:38 Calinou their apps are all proprietary, so is their browser 16:38 Calinou and they use a proprietary mentality 16:39 sfan5 that's right, but they still have waay more open src stuff than M$ 16:40 Calinou yeah 16:40 Timoteo their browser engine (webkit) is open source as well 16:41 Peacock big bad MS lol while IBM gives alot of money to open source now, back in the 30's they also sold tech to the nazis, so how does that square in the matrix of evil? 16:42 Calinou Timoteo: engine only :P 16:42 Calinou same for Google Chrome 16:43 Calinou (but we have Chromium here) 16:46 * Jordach finally has some upgrades for his blender model that happen to be worthwhile 16:47 Peacock a monobreast to make it unisex? :P 16:55 reactor o/ 16:55 reactor OldCoder: anything new? 17:22 dafull97 hey guys 17:23 Peacock greets 17:24 dafull97 Peacock, how ya been? 17:26 Peacock sleep deprived lol but i have to stay up and wait for the plumber 17:26 Peacock u? 17:27 dafull97 nice, haha... in school wish i could just be home hahah 17:29 Peacock at least you get to sleep XD lol 17:31 dafull97 haha, not in school =P 17:32 reactor ? 17:37 dafull97 ? 17:54 OldCoder reactor, I worked about 14 hours yesterday at IRL work. Tired. World is upgraded. Next steps are (1) ask people to try new git client to debug the load time lockup (2) gather information about the places (3) wait for additional tweaks by you (4) clone the world and make a read-write version 17:54 reactor mk 17:54 reactor It is safe to do (4) before (2) and (3). 17:55 reactor Because I'm slow as molasses. 17:57 CraigyDavi Hey, would anyone know it it is possible to have different minetest.config's for different worlds? 17:58 reactor Why not? 17:58 rubenwardy Hi all 18:00 CraigyDavi I am trying to have server config in a different file. Or would I just create new minetest if I wanted to run two servers? 18:00 Menche you can run it with the different config file with the --config option 18:02 CraigyDavi So for the server shortcut it would be now --server --worldname theworldname --config. And what would I put after that? 18:03 reactor ? 18:03 reactor your login name and password 18:03 Menche the path to the desired config file 18:03 reactor Put that all into a script. 18:03 reactor Don't forget to specify the interpreter: start it with #!/bin/sh 18:04 Menche it's --config /path/to/config.conf 18:04 reactor Enable execution, and you're ready to go. 18:04 CraigyDavi ok ill try that thanks 18:08 rubenwardy hangay 18:08 rubenwardy *hungary, is what my brother meant to say 18:09 Peacock im a little hungry too 18:11 * Calinou is now on HexChat 18:12 Jordach Calinou, explains you joining blender as calinou 18:12 Peacock congrats lol 18:12 Calinou yeah 18:12 Jordach btw, upgrade to quassel and get a 10% discount on ubuntu premium services 18:12 Peacock quassel still sounds like a pastry 18:12 Calinou 10% only? I want a discount based on the amount of nyancats I discovered! 18:12 Jordach 18:12 Calinou which is, 200 as of today! 18:12 Calinou 100% legit 18:32 Peacock happy World Toilet Day, dont forget the selfies XD lol 18:34 * Calinou can't do a selfie, he has no phone 18:34 Calinou anyway... a selfie of who? 18:34 Calinou 18:35 Peacock i was kidding about the selfies lol though i dont know how one celebrates world toilet day 18:37 Jordach by shitting in the toilet? 18:37 Peacock well thats not really a once-a-year type thing, unless you got problems lol 18:37 Menche eat a whole box of bran flakes? 18:38 Peacock mmm, brain flakes 18:38 Jordach Peacock, unless you happen to be Victoria Beckham... 18:38 Jordach she shits once every 4 years, that's how David knows when a World Cup is coming up 18:38 Peacock who the hells' that? lol 18:38 Jordach :> 18:39 * Peacock is watching pilot of Almost Human 18:39 Peacock apparently the chinese version is called Almost Hunan 18:40 * Jordach has a prototype finger setup: http://i.imgur.com/EGxGrH2.png 18:41 Peacock sam must have drug debts, his fingers are broken 18:41 Jordach Peacock, prototype currently 18:41 Menche lol 18:41 Peacock you should do a fist with just the middle finger up, for when he's driving carts 18:41 Menche have a variety of hand gesture animations, activated by commands 18:42 * Menche wonders what the command would be for the single-finger gesture 18:43 Peacock could use a whacking gesture for when someone makes excuses about griefing lol 18:47 Jordach s/whacking/wanking 18:48 Menche of course we'll need a facepalm gesture 18:49 Jordach oh wtf 18:49 Jordach blender just crashed 18:51 * rubenwardy lol'd 18:51 * rubenwardy is listening to GOTYE 18:51 Peacock blender didn't crash, it's a feature 18:51 Peacock to reduce... uhm... RSI lol 18:51 rubenwardy Keeps you on your feet 18:54 Jordach john_minetest, new hardware 18:55 Calinou hi john_minetest 18:55 Calinou you have a new PC? 18:57 Megaf !up megaf.co.vu 30003 18:57 Megaf Ho john_minetest, do you have a problem with you minetest? 18:57 Megaf Hi* 18:57 MinetestBot megaf.co.vu:30003 seems to be down 18:57 Peacock who you callin a ho, biatch? 18:59 Megaf !up megaf.co.vu 30003 19:00 MinetestBot megaf.co.vu:30003 seems to be down 19:02 Megaf My RPi is doing quite well http://servers.minetest.net/ 19:02 Megaf 17 days of age and 13 days of uptime 19:03 Megaf second highest uptime 19:03 Peacock congrats, you win an AOL trial CD :P 19:03 Peacock (they make excellent coasters) 19:03 Jordach Peacock, agreed 19:05 Peacock alternatively, we're offering free vacations at Casa Del Furio (http://www.digitalapoptosis.com/archives/india/1star.jpg) 19:05 Peacock (don't drink the tap water) :P 19:07 Peacock jesus Zimmerman's in the news again, he must really hate the fact he was acquitted 19:10 Megaf john_minetest, because you updated your hardware? 19:14 sfan5 oh god my php is terrible 19:15 Peacock how can anyone's php be bad? they employ almost every concept/method lol even gotos and weird inheritance 19:17 Peacock yeah gotos were all the rage when i was a kid, but then, so were mullets 19:19 Megaf john_minetest, how long does it takes to compile? 19:19 Megaf I have a quad core AMD Phenom II x4 @ 3,2 GHz 19:19 Megaf it takes a couple of minutes to compile 19:21 Megaf john_minetest, yep, minetest with minetest_game 19:21 Megaf !up megaf.co.vu 30003 19:22 MinetestBot megaf.co.vu:30003 seems to be down 19:22 Megaf MinetestBot, lier! 19:23 Calinou john_minetest, lol, that alienware box 19:23 Calinou (I think?) 19:23 Calinou the CPU is good (faster than mine) but the GPU sucks 19:23 Calinou (it's also OEM-only variant) 19:23 Calinou you should have built it, or at least bought the parts yourself 19:24 Calinou O_o why? 19:25 Calinou it doesn't take weeks to do 19:25 Megaf lol 19:25 Calinou you can get help from many people for choosing the parts, and building is done in less than a day 19:26 Megaf john_minetest, not bad 19:26 Peacock OTS is cheaper than building here, crapware insures that lol 19:26 Megaf ah 19:26 Megaf cmake 19:26 Calinou building isn't cheaper, but you get quality components, like the case or PSU 19:26 Calinou and you know what's in your PC 19:26 Calinou you also don't pay windows tax :p 19:27 Peacock there is no windows tax, what part of crapware did you miss? lol 19:27 Megaf I built my PC myself 19:27 Peacock if anything a computer with linux pre-loaded costs more because you don't have the crapware 19:27 Calinou same, it took me a day to do. it was hard :/ 19:28 Calinou but I guess it'll be easier since I did it once, also I'm quite clumsy 19:28 Calinou Peacock, there's some of it 19:28 Calinou about 40 euros 19:28 Megaf gotta go, see you later 19:28 Calinou dell sells ubuntu laptops 30-40 euros cheaper 19:28 Megaf john_minetest, Nautilus and Dolphin 19:28 Calinou john_minetest, thunar 19:28 Calinou Nautlius is for gnome, dolphin for kde, thunar for xfce, pcmanfm for lxde 19:28 Peacock then you're getting ripped off either by the store or your own country's regulations 19:29 Peacock here the crapware pays for windows and more, and its easy enough to wipe with a new image 19:29 Calinou if you don't dualboot it is easy peasy 19:29 Calinou you can boot in BIOS mode if you don't dual boot :P 19:30 Calinou just create a new partition table in GPT (more modern than MBR), make your partitions, then it's done 19:30 Peacock linux on my p4 was a pain, the first two years there werent any decent drivers for some of my parts, after 4, the drivers werent supported by newer kernels lol (no more binary for the radeon xpress) 19:31 Peacock english archwiki ain't leagues ahead either lol 19:31 Peacock well yeah it stands to reason there are more anglo devs 19:32 Peacock but that doesn't preclude the possibility that some sections are still outdated lol 19:33 Peacock naw i had that impression during the last year until i switched to CB 19:34 Warr1024 isn't that pretty much what arch is supposed to be? 19:34 Peacock finding the right distro is a matter of deciding which shortcoming you can most cope with lol 19:38 Peacock well if arch could only modernize their package management a bit, that would be great 19:38 Warr1024 by mingw, you're referring to windows stuff? 19:38 Peacock ie, combining pacman and aur, downloading dependencies in the right order for updates, etc. 19:38 Warr1024 I've heard of cross-architecture compiling, but not cross-OS... 19:39 Warr1024 wow 19:39 PilzAdam john_minetest, Bielefeld is said to exist too 19:39 Peacock well why would the MS crowd bother with windows to linux? its not like most linux geeks are willing or able to pay for such a thing lol 19:40 EvergreenTree o/ 19:42 EvergreenTree !title 19:42 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: Ruthe.de - Zeugenschutzprogramm - YouTube 19:43 Peacock what a lovely long word lol 19:43 PilzAdam john_minetest, a broken tank motor 19:43 Warr1024 I dunno, a linux -> windows cross-compile just sounds generally counterproductive to me. 19:44 PilzAdam Peacock, its german for witness protection program 19:44 Jordach EvergreenTree, you're alive! 19:44 Jordach i worried for a moment 19:44 EvergreenTree john_minetest, I've never heard of #minetset before, I have heard of #minetest though 19:45 Warr1024 always call #minetget before you call #minetset. 19:45 PilzAdam I read minetset as mindset 19:45 PilzAdam something that sets your mind 19:47 Peacock Siebentausendzweihundertvierundfünfzig = 7254, i think i'd stick to just typing the numerals lol 19:47 VIRTUALFALL FINALLY MY WEBSITE IS CREATED! http://virtualfallsoftware.x10.mx/ 19:48 Peacock HELLO CAPS LOCK 19:48 PilzAdam VIRTUALFALL, spam? 19:48 VIRTUALFALL no+ 19:48 PilzAdam !title 19:48 MinetestBot PilzAdam: Virtual Fall Software 19:48 Warr1024 man, I can't wait until Row:4 Cell:5 19:48 Peacock http://rolande.files.wordpress.com/2005/01/spam-can.jpg 19:48 VIRTUALFALL +no+ +spam 19:49 Peacock you guys must have wickedly competitive spelling bees :P 19:49 VIRTUALFALL im not eat spam 19:49 PilzAdam mmmmmm.... schinken.... 19:49 Peacock funny, chinken sounds more like chicken in english lol 19:50 Peacock so what's german for hunchback then? 19:50 PilzAdam "Buckel" 19:50 PilzAdam john_minetest, wrong 19:51 Peacock im almost afraid to ask what belt buckle is then lol 19:51 PilzAdam Gürtelschnalle 19:52 Peacock funny how alot of the words sound the same but don't mean the same thing at all 19:52 Peacock i have an easier time figuring out spanish as it's almost a mix of english and french 19:52 PilzAdam want some gift? 19:53 Peacock so Santa Clause is a terrorist in Germany? 19:53 Peacock lol 19:53 Peacock the same beard too 19:53 Peacock and he lives in an isolated area 19:54 Peacock with clandestine workshops and slave labour 19:54 Peacock lol i wont be telling that story to my niece lol 19:54 Peacock my sister would probably kill me lol 19:55 PilzAdam we have the Christkind in germany anyway 19:55 Warr1024 lol Peacock lol with the lols, lol. 19:55 Peacock i got a whole box of lols 19:55 Warr1024 you missed an open tag 19:55 Menche the world's supply of lols has been depleted. please use sparingly while manufacturing catches up 19:56 Peacock walmart had a special on lols and lolcats 19:56 Peacock well lols are mass-produced in china 19:56 PilzAdam Peacock, but the chinese lols are not as good as the german ones 19:56 Peacock though some of the factory workers jumped to their deaths last month, their colleagues were overhead saying "lol" 19:57 Peacock those would be soviet lols 19:57 Peacock chinese lols deliver on time 19:58 Peacock canadian lols are bilingual 19:58 Menche communist-made LOLs are more heavy because the quotas are based on weight 19:59 Peacock stallman released a new site called the Seven Sins of LOL 19:59 PilzAdam its called GNU/rofl, not rofl 20:00 Peacock does that mean the rofl's dont work? 20:00 PilzAdam Peacock, you can buy the "copter" extention, that gives you the roflcopter, but is proprietary 20:01 Peacock there's also LMFAO, but the ass part is a proprietary binary blob 20:02 PilzAdam theres also the chines clone of rofl: lofl 20:04 Peacock and since roflmfao includes rofl, the roflmfao was also GPL'd 20:04 PilzAdam its for anrdoid too, though 20:06 Peacock well if you're worrying about spying don't get a smartphone lol 20:07 Peacock i read somewhere that either the sim card or the gps is powered whether or not the phone is and the battery in (i think it was the sim card) 20:07 Peacock *is on 20:07 Warr1024 That's probably true or not true, highly dependent on the specific phone model. 20:08 Peacock stallman's idea of freedom is to turnover your copyrights to him lol 20:08 Warr1024 also, there's airplane mode and such. The carrier can't reach your phone if it doesn't know where it is, doesn't know where it is if it's not being pinged, and the phone won't ping towers in airplane mode due to restrictions on stuff like airplane use... 20:09 PilzAdam I think smarphones are like quantum states: they either know where you are, or what you are talking, but not both at the same time 20:10 Peacock well your smartphone doesn't need to record conversations, its the carriers that do that lol 20:10 Warr1024 it's kind of ironic, but in the old proprietary commercial world, the software controlled the users, and they didn't like it. GNU and Apple provided 2 different solutions: in the GNU world, users control the software, and in the Apple world, users like being told what to do. 20:11 Peacock " Apple world, users like being told what to do" thats your perception of them, and a fanboy one at that, perhaps some people are just willing to pay for polished, fully-featured software 20:11 Warr1024 trust me, I'm not an apple fanboy. 20:12 Peacock i meant a linux fanboy lol 20:12 Warr1024 not one of those either. 20:12 Peacock (and they both behave the same) lol 20:13 Warr1024 I only use Linux because of the "fully-featured" part. 20:13 thexyz guys check this out 20:13 thexyz hello world in 1 line on js https://github.com/theaqua/hello-world-in-1-line.js 20:14 Menche i like how that has 11 commits 20:14 Warr1024 1 line if you don't count all the 3rd-party libs. 20:14 ele__ how do i use my minetest username here 20:14 Warr1024 ele__: /nick 20:15 Warr1024 world's shortest quine: #!/bin/cat 20:15 Peacock #!/bin/nyancat 20:15 playzooki hi guys 20:16 Warr1024 Peacock: more likely #!/usr/bin/nyancat (Linux) or #!/usr/local/bin/nyancat (OpenBSD) 20:17 Warr1024 john_minetest: that cats the file "file.sh", not the script itself, unless those happen to coincide. #!/bin/cat always works. 20:17 Peacock OpenBSD == Open Bondage, Sadism and Domination? what does the BSD stand for? 20:17 Warr1024 Peacock: never heard of the Berkely Software Distribution? You use parts of it. 20:18 Peacock there's a slogan, "OpenBSD, the OS of choice for german whorehouse management" XD 20:18 EvergreenTree !title 20:18 MinetestBot EvergreenTree: Richard Stallman: We're heading for a total disaster - YouTube 20:19 artur99_ look here a nice vide about my country: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK21-sYSDsU 20:19 Menche !title 20:19 Peacock as for berkely, ive heard of them, but its not like im interested in knowing where each part of a car comes from either 20:19 MinetestBot Menche: The World without Romania - Lumea fara Romania - subtitle all languages press "CC" - YouTu[...] 20:19 Warr1024 I've heard it said that throughout history, there are only 2 universal constants: (1) everything is always slowly getting better and (2) everyone always believes everything is rapidly getting worse. 20:19 artur99_ where the baseball was inveted, and the vampires appeared, and the pens has been invented, and the airplanes with reaction has been built for first time 20:20 PilzAdam Warr1024, (3) the speed of light 20:20 Peacock im pretty sure pi doesn't change either, or the strength of gravity 20:20 Peacock or stallman's (lack of) hygiene 20:20 Warr1024 PilzAdam: maybe, maybe not. Wouldn't be a much worse explanation than Dark Energy, after all... 20:21 PilzAdam !op 20:21 Menche gravity can change slightly from place to place 20:21 Warr1024 Menche: you mean weight, or you mean the actual gravitational constant? 20:21 Peacock the strength of gravity or the amount of it? 20:22 Peacock what are phyiscs? 20:22 Peacock hehe 20:22 PilzAdam Peacock, people who cant type 20:22 ele__ it didnt work 20:22 Warr1024 though remember that constants are not constants because of some kind of divine fiat; they're simply values that always came out the same the way we calculated them, and we haven't yet found any circumstances in which they vary. 20:23 Peacock apparently they do in the multiverse 20:23 ele__ i tried to use my minetest username but it didnt work 20:23 Warr1024 Peacock: wouldn't know, never been there :-) 20:23 Warr1024 ele__: in what manner did it not work? 20:23 PilzAdam ele__, we dont have a centtalized account system 20:23 Warr1024 ele__: i.e. what did it do instead of working? 20:23 ele__ i put /nick Element 20:23 PilzAdam ele__, there is no "minetest username" 20:24 PilzAdam !deop 20:24 Warr1024 if it said somethin like "nick already in use" or something, then there's really nothing you can do abou tit. 20:24 ele__ is there a way i can use Element 20:24 Warr1024 if it's available, yeah. 20:24 Warr1024 you're on a web client? 20:24 Warr1024 can't you specify the nickname you want when you connect? 20:25 ele__ no, i think 20:25 Menche /whois says that there's noone named Element 20:25 Jordach ele__, i think someone owns that nickname here 20:25 Peacock just type /nick IPFreely and you should be all setup 20:25 ele__ really 20:25 Jordach Peacock, lol 20:25 ele__ that sucks 20:25 Warr1024 Element is already reserved by NickServ. 20:25 Menche Nick/channel is temporarily unavailable 20:26 Warr1024 sorry, I guess you're gonna be Element2 or Element_ or Element` or something. 20:26 Peacock what about FifthElement? 20:26 Peacock mul-tee-pass 20:26 Warr1024 that probably won't be necessary unless the first 4 are taken :-) 20:28 Peacock i was surprised to find out JesusChrist and BigWillie are already registered lol 20:28 Warr1024 why does it seem like there are so many webchat users everywhere? 20:28 PilzAdam Warr1024, because on windows its dangerous to install programs, IRC clients in this case 20:29 Warr1024 no more dangerous than installing windows was in the first place, though... 20:29 * PilzAdam has seen IRC clients that are trojan horses 20:29 Peacock well mirc would be one of the most harmless programs you can install 20:30 ele__ every time i try to use a different Element, i get, [15:26] qwebirc v0.91 [15:26] Copyright (C) 2008-2011 Chris Porter and the qwebirc project. [15:26] http://www.qwebirc.org [15:26] Licensed under the GNU General Public License, Version 2. [15:26] == *** (qwebirc) Looking up your hostname... [15:26] == *** (qwebirc) Found your hostname. [15:26] == Connected to server. [15:26] -herbert.freenode.net- *** Looking up your hostname. 20:30 Peacock wtf 20:30 ele__ and it doesnt let me use it 20:30 Warr1024 and you get bumped back to ele__? 20:31 Peacock well you gotta finesse it first by buying it dinner and a movie 20:31 ele__ no 20:31 ele__ i just use ele 20:31 Warr1024 odd 20:31 ele__ yea 20:32 Warr1024 maybe you should look into getting a real client. 20:32 ele__ i tried Element' 20:32 Warr1024 there may be trojans out there, but there must be a few decent safe clients... 20:32 ele__ and how do i do that 20:32 Jordach hexchat 20:32 Jordach xchat 20:32 Jordach quassel 20:32 Jordach those are some good free ones 20:32 Warr1024 I used mIRC back in my Windows days, and Trillian. Been on pidgin/gaim for a while now. 20:32 sfan5 !seen a kitten 20:32 MinetestBot sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen a around. 20:33 sfan5 oh MinetestBot.. 20:33 Peacock the bot dont take spaces lol 20:33 sfan5 I programmed that myself but forgot it 20:33 MinetestBot sfan5: I'm just what you made me... 20:33 Peacock !seen ma'daddy 20:33 MinetestBot Peacock: Sorry, I haven't seen ma'daddy around. 20:33 sfan5 d'awwww 20:33 * sfan5 pets MinetestBot 20:33 * MinetestBot purrs 20:33 PilzAdam !rainbow purr 20:33 MinetestBot 2p5u6r11r 20:34 sfan5 MinetestBot has 441 nicks recorded in the !seen database 20:34 sfan5 !seen o-o-o 20:34 MinetestBot sfan5: o-o-o was last seen at 2013-11-16 10:07:24 UTC on #minetest 20:34 sfan5 or 20:34 sfan5 !seen dsfsgsfhsfk 20:34 MinetestBot sfan5: dsfsgsfhsfk was last seen at 2013-11-17 07:50:19 UTC on #minetest 20:34 ele__ so where di i go to get a client 20:35 Peacock Mexico 20:35 * Jordach pets MinetestBot 20:35 * MinetestBot purrs 20:35 ele__ ok? 20:35 PilzAdam sfan5, if someone would write a lbl start ; /nick ; /msg ##minetestbot hello ; goto start ; script, how long would it take for MinetestBot to run out of space? 20:36 PilzAdam ele__, ixquick.com 20:36 Peacock next step, give minetestbot an AI and let it sign into games lol 20:36 sfan5 PilzAdam: space for what? 20:36 sfan5 Peacock: I can add that if you want 20:36 PilzAdam database 20:36 Peacock though, having an AI would be unfair to other players who have no intelligence :/ 20:36 sfan5 oh.. 20:36 sfan5 dunno 20:36 Warr1024 ele__: what OS are you running, and do you have antivirus? 20:37 sfan5 PilzAdam: /dev/ploop55301p1 9.9G 1.3G 8.2G 14% / 20:37 sfan5 (Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on) 20:37 Peacock lol @ ploop 20:37 ele__ i have a win. 8.1 and no antivirus 20:37 Warr1024 that's bad. 20:37 ele__ why 20:37 sfan5 because you might get a virus 20:37 ele__ ah 20:37 Peacock its not punch-card compatible like linux 20:37 sfan5 just download something like avira or avast 20:37 ele__ is it free 20:38 sfan5 yes 20:38 Warr1024 If you're running Windows and don't have antivirus, you're probably best off not downloading strange stuff like IRC clients from the interwebz. 20:38 sfan5 , 20:38 ele__ whats the best 20:38 Peacock i think avg's free too 20:38 PilzAdam today at uni I have seen someone downloading an .exe and directly running it as admin 20:38 Warr1024 I have used both AVG and Avast before, and found them to be acceptable. 20:38 PilzAdam from some random site 20:38 Peacock this is what i used 15 years ago: http://www.mirc.com/ 20:38 ele__ what are there websites for them 20:39 Peacock !g avast 20:39 MinetestBot Peacock: http://www.avast.com/ 20:39 sfan5 PilzAdam: there is ubuntu 9.04 with enabled ssh server on roughly 1 PCs in my school 20:39 sfan5 and gcc is installed too 20:39 Warr1024 http://lmgtfy.com/?q=avast 20:40 Warr1024 PilzAdam: was it on his/her own computer? 20:40 PilzAdam Warr1024, yes 20:40 sfan5 lol 20:40 Warr1024 ouch. 20:40 Warr1024 if it were just some dumb shared kiosk machine or something, then who cares, right? :-) 20:40 PilzAdam I cant even remotely describe the facepalm.... 20:41 PilzAdam it was an 1 week old new Laptop 20:41 Warr1024 I once was running *3* virus scanners simultaneously, so I felt like I could just download random shit and run it. Finding out I was wrong was pretty much the last straw for my ever running Windows as a main OS again. 20:41 Warr1024 PilzAdam: well in that case it's probably justified, if it had a factory image with all the viruses they pre-ship. 20:42 PilzAdam it was shipped with ubuntu, but the owner installed win 7........ 20:42 Warr1024 oh, super-ouch. 20:43 PilzAdam the history of this laptop is filled with my facepalms 20:43 Warr1024 every time you say "facepalm" it makes me think about palm trees :-) 20:44 * PilzAdam too 20:44 PilzAdam but I dont know a better term... 20:44 Warr1024 how many facepalms are there in a headdesk? 20:44 Jordach my moron senses are tingling 20:45 PilzAdam Jordach, nice welcome message for OldCoder :-p 20:46 OldCoder ? 20:46 Warr1024 my moron senses are always tingling... wait a second... :-) 20:46 ele__ for mIRC, what server do i connect to 20:46 Warr1024 irc.freenode.net 20:47 Warr1024 you already downloaded and installed a virus scanner and mirc? 20:47 Warr1024 that's some pretty fast work :-) 20:47 ele__ the virus is downloading now 20:47 Jordach PilzAdam, i was talking about the IDIOT WITH Ubuntu and 7 20:47 ele__ or anti virus** 20:47 Warr1024 ele__: hopefully anti-virus. 20:48 Jordach new sig get: the virus is downloading now 20:48 ele__ its the anti 20:48 Jordach immortalised as my signiture 20:48 ele__ i forgot to put in the anti part 20:48 Menche meh, that's not really important, is it? 20:48 Menche lol 20:49 Jordach anti-viruses are usually viruses in their own right 20:49 Menche a lot of the free ones are nagware 20:49 sfan5 PilzAdam: http://securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/55422280066/the-new-guy-downloads-netcat-exe-from-some-random-site 20:49 Warr1024 they do meet certain criteria for malware. 20:49 ele__ i cant find that server 20:49 Warr1024 plus they can slow down disk I/O by as much as 5x. 20:50 Peacock and quarantine nocd patches lol 20:50 Peacock while missing real virii 20:50 Warr1024 yeah, I've had that quaranteening behavior really screw stuff up. 20:51 ele__ ok, i need help 20:51 Warr1024 ironically quarantine can prevent you from *deleting* an infected file. 20:52 Warr1024 ele__: you don't have to tell us you need help, just tell us what help you need :-) 20:52 ele__ i have mIRC but i dont know what serevr to connect to 20:54 Warr1024 ele__: irc.freenode.net 20:54 ele__ i went there but its a page with, It works! This is the default web page for this server. The web server software is running but no content has been added, yet. 20:55 sfan5 lol http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/1qz6qm/got_to_know_my_female_coworker_a_little_better/ 20:56 Peacock stalking techniques lol 20:56 Warr1024 ele__: no, you were asking the server you needed to put into mIRC, weren't you? That's the IRC server, not a web address. 20:56 Warr1024 (well, it IS also a web address, but that's not how you use it) 20:56 * Jordach experiments with other people's Animatic models; http://i.imgur.com/ih4Ez5P.png 20:56 ele__ oh 20:57 * Jordach isn't a real fan of IK 20:57 Jordach if i want a certain rotation, i never get one :( 20:57 ele__ where do i go in mIRC to go to that server 20:59 Warr1024 oh, man, I don't remember, it's been a long time since I used mIRC. 20:59 Warr1024 it's probably something like "connect" or "add server" or maybe even "server manager" or "manage connections" 21:00 Warr1024 here, try this: imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tech_support_cheat_sheet.png 21:01 Warr1024 damn you firefox, for arbitrarily including/excluding the schema in url's I copy at your discretion and not mine... :-/ 21:14 PilzAdam "A few seconds ago I had a really good idea, I guess." 21:15 PilzAdam – https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7782 21:17 Warr1024 nice 21:26 PilzAdam Warr1024, I was able to reproduce your bug: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1012#issuecomment-28837080 21:26 Warr1024 awesome 21:26 PilzAdam I recommend to change the chat key to fix it 21:26 Warr1024 this only happens with enter? 21:26 PilzAdam or upgrade to Irrlicht 1.8 21:26 PilzAdam AFAIK yes 21:27 Warr1024 upgrading isn't a great general-purpose solution since many OS's ship with pre-1.8 irrlicht by default, and building updated versions from source, or adding PPA's is not trivial for most users... 21:27 PilzAdam yea, thats because my first suggestion is to not use enter ;-) 21:27 Warr1024 A lot of my friends and I are used to binding enter to chat. 21:27 Warr1024 it's probably one of the more popular bindings... 21:28 PilzAdam enter is pretty far away from WASD or the mouse... 21:28 Warr1024 yeah, but when you type you aren't just using wasd. 21:28 PilzAdam true 21:29 Warr1024 switching between play/chat mode tends to require at least movement of the mouse hand. 21:29 Warr1024 I actually use ASDF/Space instead of Space/SADW. 21:29 PilzAdam well, the backtrace is there, people can fix it if they want 21:29 Warr1024 it's less intuitive, but tires out the fingers much less. 21:29 DanCooper Warr1024: how is that? 21:30 PilzAdam I need to sleep now; bye 21:30 DanCooper do you have problems with crouching or anything like that? 21:30 Warr1024 bye 21:30 Warr1024 inb4 :-) 21:30 Warr1024 DanCooper: not much. I crouch with LShift, and I usually bend my pinky and use my knuckle if I'm going to do it for a long time. 21:31 Warr1024 Space = forward, D/F are strafe left/right, S is backwards, an A is jump. 21:31 DanCooper Warr1024: do you play all fpses like that? 21:31 DanCooper i was going to try that for awhile 21:31 Warr1024 I do, but the results are mixed, depending on the play style. 21:32 Warr1024 basically, just rest your hand on the home keys 21:32 Warr1024 then assign buttons with the most commonly-used (especially sustained or rapidly-repeated) functions to the strongest fingers. 21:32 Warr1024 i.e. thumb, then index/middle, then ring, then pinky. 21:32 Warr1024 I also often assign functions to nearby alphabetic keys. 21:33 Warr1024 (of course, all of this is on a USA 101-key layout; int'l users will need to adapt accordingly). 21:33 bas080 how would i give someone the privs to revoke and grant privs? 21:33 bas080 basicly make someone admin on the server where i am the admin 21:33 Menche the privs priv allows granting privs 21:34 Warr1024 does the privs priv allow granting the privs priv? 21:34 bas080 am checking 21:34 Menche or basic_privs allows granting interact and shout (i think) 21:35 Warr1024 DanCooper: the main weakness I've found with ASDF/Space is that the pinky tends to get overused, esp. for jumping. I work around this by meticulously building stairs on any well-travelled path :-) 21:40 sfan5 this AskReddit thread is very amusing.. 21:40 sfan5 http://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1qyxjx/whats_the_most_amusing_new_film_we_can_come_up/cdhxdc2 21:47 DanCooper Warr1024: why would you use pinky for jumping? 21:49 Warr1024 DanCooper: I dunno, I used thumb for forward, middle and index for strafe left and right, and ring finger for backwards. 21:50 Warr1024 I want to be able to do any reasonable combination of any of those while jumping, so I can't reuse an existing finger; that leaves only the pinky for the jump key. 21:51 Warr1024 I don't really want to break up the semi-intuitive D/F strafe pair either. 21:51 Warr1024 otherwise, for something like MT, I guess I'd go with forward, jump, then strafe, then backpedal. 22:42 dafull97 hey guys 22:45 us`0gb Hello! 22:46 Partmedia hi there :p 23:14 iqualfragile VanessaE: you there? 23:14 VanessaE yes 23:14 iqualfragile you have uploaded quite some mods to mmdb ( for example https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/mod/plantlife/) but you did not upload any versions 23:14 iqualfragile please do so 23:14 VanessaE meh 23:15 iqualfragile this makes it it a lot easier for players to install mods 23:15 VanessaE all my stuff is rolling-release, there are no "versions" as such 23:15 iqualfragile just dump one there from time to time 23:16 iqualfragile this makes it it a lot easier for players to install mod as they just need to klick install from inside minetest 23:24 VanessaE iqualfragile: ok, done all of them. 23:25 iqualfragile VanessaE: good, but you left some backups (moretrees, node_defs.lua~) and your .git inside 23:25 VanessaE oh well 23:26 iqualfragile if you do not care i will just approve them 23:26 VanessaE I just zipped up the folders whole 23:26 VanessaE better the end user gets the git histories also 23:26 VanessaE makes it easier to contribute 23:26 VanessaE (and to update) 23:26 iqualfragile yes, but it allso makes the download bigger… 23:26 VanessaE meh 23:27 VanessaE biggest one is pipeworks and that's only 11MB 23:27 iqualfragile allright then 23:27 VanessaE "only" :) 23:27 iqualfragile wait 23:27 iqualfragile you maintain gloopblocks? 23:27 VanessaE ye 23:27 VanessaE yes 23:27 iqualfragile oh, cool 23:29 VanessaE neko kinda abandoned it a while back, I couldn't let it die, it was too useful 23:32 iqualfragile thats the spirit 23:36 Partmedia anyone else been having mine carts stopping at random points along the track? 23:36 * Partmedia should really go search on the forums... 23:37 deltib yes, it seems to be a limitation of the engine 23:37 Partmedia :'( 23:38 Partmedia Great, so it's not my server being silly 23:38 deltib from what I understand, it happens when the cart tries to move into a chunk that isn't loaded in memory (seems like the graphical representation an the actual chunk data are separate, so you may be able to see chunks that aren't actually loaded, but I could be wrong) 23:39 Partmedia are chunks ever unloaded after being loaded? 23:41 deltib I don't know that much about the inner workings of the engine, I'm basing this on what I've heard other people say and my own observations, but yes, I believe the chunks are loaded and unloaded as you move around 23:42 * VanessaE pokes RealBadAngel -- just because ;) 23:42 RealBadAngel hi VE 23:43 VanessaE hey 23:43 deltib someone more knowledgeable about the subject could jump in and correct me if I've gotten anything wrong 23:43 Partmedia Hmm... I don't feel like source diving today ;) 23:44 Partmedia Another thing is, some of the time, other players can't see me riding the cart, just the empty cart moving