Time  Nick          Message
00:20 hmmmm         haha, it's getting there http://s16.postimg.org/fabvcplxh/map_seed_1015227612563501637.png
00:20 hmmmm         just need to handle the edge cases now
00:21 hmmmm         @paramat
00:25 hmmmm         that's 2 convolutions with a flat blur kernel and a radius of 3
00:25 hmmmm         so I think it'll do the trick (for chunky blocks anyway, not so much images)
00:29 Exio4         inkscape is pretty l33t
00:31 NakedFury     hmmmm, why is the right side different?
01:02 BlockMen      night
02:07 Peacock       !seen paramat
02:07 MinetestBot   Peacock: paramat was last seen at 2013-11-17 09:15:50 UTC on #minetest
03:00 paramat       thanks for testing asteriodlvm Peacock!
03:00 Peacock       no prob
03:00 Peacock       tho i had a problem with my previous lvm converts and it seems to still be there with yours: the odd dark shadow spot :/
03:01 Peacock       at first i thought minp.y and maxp.y needed to be -16/+16 too, but i still found dark spots after wandering the map
03:02 paramat       yeah i'm not sure about the 'update lighting' having +16 -16 included
03:02 Peacock       its probably something up with calc_lighting
03:03 Peacock       though i check api.txt and it doesn't state that i have to provide a p1/p2
03:03 paramat       yeah sorry 'calc lighting' :) is what i meant
03:03 Peacock       np i understood :P
03:04 paramat       i'm amazed and super happy it works 8)
03:04 * paramat     reads logs ...
03:05 Peacock       the first thing i noticed was how bloody fast it was :-)
03:06 paramat       yeah 3D noise used to be slow, and my mods are super-heavy on the 3D noise
03:08 paramat       also in converting it to perlinmaps i discovered it was not possible to use one noise to vary persistence of another, so i dropped that feature and have a fixed persistence of 0.6
03:09 paramat       this eliminated one of the noises and increased the speed
03:09 Peacock       well its still faster than the first version i lvm'd :-)
03:15 Peacock       im in the process of LVM'ing the mapp mod now, thats another bottle of trickysauce right there lol
03:18 paramat       eh pilzadam's map mod? cant see how LVM can be used in that :/
03:18 Peacock       oh, i dont know if it makes any difference to performance, but you define your cid {} within on_generated, which i assume means minetest.get_content_id() is called for every chunk * the number of nodes you need
03:18 Peacock       no not pilzadams', 4aiman's mapp mod
03:18 Peacock       didn't know he forked that
03:19 paramat       ah okay mapp not map :)
03:19 Peacock       yeah i doubled the size of mapp but it's hellishly slow lol
03:19 Peacock       and it doesn't work that well in environments with no ground so i have to fix that
03:26 paramat       ugh using stable releases makes me feel left out and forgotten, but stable is the official release!
03:26 Peacock       hell i stuck with 0.4.6 long after 0.4.7 was considered stable lol
03:28 Peacock       unfortunately alot of stuff gets pulled, re-pulled and un-pulled from latest, and i hate fucking up my maps to be a guinea pig lol
03:32 Peacock       though you can be pretty sure lvm won't be seeing major changes between now and 0.4.8
03:34 paramat       to make it easier on myself i left out craters from asteroidlvm, might add those in once im happy with them. you're missing out on a beautiful experience if you disable the comet atmospheres ;)
03:34 paramat       although they make building more difficult
03:34 Peacock       well im mostly thinking about performance on the p4, if my wife can't play than it's not much use :/
03:35 Peacock       i even have to be careful with complicated nodeboxes and use_texture_alpha on that machine
03:38 paramat       a solution would be to make atmos nodes opaque from the outside, and still use 'post effect colour' when inside
03:38 Peacock       well if i were you i wouldn't change the main branch if you like it, it can be easily disabled either way
03:38 paramat       yes i agree
03:39 paramat       i may use opaque fog nodes for normal mapgens, so there's no interference with water, and for higher FPS
03:40 paramat       so i can re-introduce fog to paragenv7 and paragen
03:40 Peacock       im not even sure i'll bother with an airgen, i might just texture players to appear in spacesuits lol
03:44 paramat       yes airgen is indeed a pain, i think i'll keep it out of asteroid mod or make a branch with airgen, because i expect most players wont want it and want something faster and simpler
03:48 Peacock       abm-meltdowns and air leaks lol
04:30 dafull97      Hey guys
04:40 hoodedice     If a pull request is closed, does that mean that the code that was pushed has been accepted and merged?
04:49 VanessaE      not always, but sometimes
04:49 VanessaE      it can also mean the issue was addressed in some other way
04:50 hoodedice     Pull 1000
04:50 hoodedice     https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1000
04:50 hoodedice     Was entity dupe fixed once and for all?
04:50 VanessaE      kwolekr commented 9 hours ago
04:50 VanessaE      21789cc
04:50 VanessaE      that means it was merged.
04:51 hoodedice     YAAY
04:51 hoodedice     Now I guess carts won't lag now
04:53 VanessaE      hope not :)
04:55 hoodedice     ?
04:55 hoodedice     oh
04:58 hoodedice     Umm, how do I find out which build
04:58 hoodedice     was built when?
04:58 hoodedice     Isn't there a list of commits somewhere?
04:59 hoodedice     Uh no, got what I needed.
05:00 dafull97      kaeza, you here?
05:02 VanessaE      https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits/master
05:04 hoodedice     Why thank you VanessaE
05:39 paramat       Peac0ck, i made the mistake of renaming the mod, items and nodes to asteroidlvm, i'm now changing those back so it can be the new version in the asteroid git repo when 0.4.8 is out
07:02 VanessaE      night all.
10:22 LazyJ         Here's an old curiosity: In Minetest, why do images shimmer when at the far extremes of the map? I've noticed this effect at 20,000 and at 10,000. What is the non-shimmer range in MT? 5,000 or less? 8,000 or less, etc?
11:36 paramat       the jacket potato wieldhand urgently needs to be replaced https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/218 how about for 0.4.8?
12:46 reactor       o/
12:46 reactor       OldCoder: any news?
13:04 EvergreenTree o/
13:07 reactor       EvergreenTree: \o
13:35 reactor       Why is there no Russian Minetest channel?
13:35 reactor       Or at least, for East Bloc?
13:36 RealBadAngel  feel free to create one
13:36 reactor       Uh. I don't feel like it today.
13:36 RealBadAngel  sfan5, are you here? PilzAdam?
13:42 reactor       Functional programming is great.
13:47 EvergreenTree RealBadAngel, It appears they aren't
13:56 reactor       http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/346/651/4ca.gif
14:28 OldCoder      Hello
14:28 OldCoder      reactor, I fell asleep
14:28 OldCoder      I will proceed to migrate world now
14:29 reactor       mk
14:32 OldCoder      Migration in progress
14:40 reactor       Migration to what?
14:40 reactor       I've always thought "migration" and "migraine" are related.
14:45 sfan5         RealBadAngel: hm?
14:46 reactor       You mean, robots have headaches, too?
14:46 OldCoder
14:46 OldCoder      reactor, Migration of SQLite3 to LevelDB. It is done. Join the world and check please. BTW The lock-ups on item definitions are a known bug apparently. Core devs seem to be working on it.
14:47 reactor       30017?
14:47 OldCoder      Yes
14:51 reactor       OldCoder: good.
14:51 reactor       It's working.
14:52 reactor       But the ambient sounds are too loud.
14:52 reactor       The map loads well now, btw.
14:52 reactor       What did you tweak?
14:52 reactor       Oh, also, are the textures there?
14:56 reactor       iqualfragile: crappy ISP, too, eh?
14:57 OldCoder      reactor, I did not tweak anything
14:57 OldCoder      reactor, This is the previous world with only the map replaced
14:58 OldCoder      reactor, while you are here, can you take a couple of minutes to tell us again why you did this project? If it means anything special to you? How you did it?
14:58 reactor       Well.
14:58 reactor       Eh.
14:58 reactor       I'm interested in physics.
14:58 OldCoder      Take your time.
14:59 reactor       I don't know how I came to be interested in Pripyat.
14:59 OldCoder      But you did. Then what?
14:59 reactor       Maybe it has to do with the fact I like Soviet stuff.
14:59 OldCoder      Interested in? From historical perspective?
14:59 reactor       Yes.
15:00 reactor       Our family used to live well back.
15:00 OldCoder      Well as in long? Or Good?
15:00 reactor       We had everything.
15:01 reactor       Oh well. Just put it like that. I like Soviet history.
15:02 OldCoder      And decided to build a city
15:03 reactor       Not build. Model.
15:03 OldCoder      Model
15:03 OldCoder      Do you recall that decision?
15:03 reactor       Just for tun.
15:03 OldCoder      k
15:03 reactor       I didn't really decide.
15:03 OldCoder      Evolved
15:03 reactor       I randomy googled.
15:03 OldCoder      How long did it take?
15:03 OldCoder      Go on
15:03 reactor       "pripyat minecraft"
15:03 OldCoder      Googled
15:03 OldCoder      Found no Pripyat
15:03 reactor       Saw the map, it wasn't realistic enough.
15:03 OldCoder      Decided to add one?
15:03 OldCoder      Ah
15:03 OldCoder      There was a Pripyat
15:03 OldCoder      Decided to fix it
15:04 reactor       There are some Pripyats already.
15:04 OldCoder      How did you get the map? or is yours new?
15:04 reactor       None is like real.
15:04 reactor       It's a part of TheZone by Tsarcorp.
15:04 reactor       (Minecraft)
15:04 OldCoder      So you got one and patched it
15:04 reactor       Tsarcorp didn't bother to detail the city.
15:04 OldCoder      How was it acquired?
15:04 reactor       He seems more focused on fictional STALKER stuff.
15:04 reactor       I downloaded it.
15:05 reactor       from PlanetMinecraft
15:05 OldCoder      It is downloadable?
15:05 reactor       It is.
15:05 OldCoder      MC provides downloadable maps then
15:05 OldCoder      He released it under a license?
15:05 reactor       I don't remember.
15:05 * OldCoder    shrugs
15:05 reactor       He releases a .zip for downloads.
15:05 OldCoder      So started adding to a released MC world
15:05 OldCoder      Over time; how long did it take?
15:06 reactor       About a hundred man-hours in last three years.
15:06 OldCoder      Pretty big investment
15:06 OldCoder      Are you satisfied with the results for the time?
15:06 reactor       30 hours a year?
15:06 reactor       Not that much.
15:07 OldCoder      It is good though
15:07 OldCoder      For the time
15:07 OldCoder      Isn't it?
15:07 reactor       Well, there's some use in it.
15:07 Exio4         there is nothing like a clay-floored insland
15:07 reactor       I relax my left brain.
15:07 OldCoder      Go on
15:08 Exio4         in MC, it was wool before >:D
15:08 OldCoder      Exio4, ?
15:08 reactor       I do something right-brained once in a while, to rest up and catch on with my unconscious.
15:08 OldCoder      reactor, BTW What is the building I see at -60.8, 17.7, 185.8 ?
15:08 reactor       ?!
15:09 reactor       Gonna see.
15:09 reactor       The list I made is by far not complete.
15:09 reactor       I will add more coordinates gradually.
15:09 reactor       Meanwhile, one could use wikimapia.org.
15:10 OldCoder      I would not know what to do
15:10 Exio4         reactor: http://dynmap.shadowempire.in/?worldname=world&mapname=flat&zoom=5&x=-1395.75&y=64&z=309.0000000000001
15:12 Exio4         hardened clay, magenta atm, it was wool, random pink/magenta/purple
15:12 Exio4         it is a total of 3500~ iirc
15:12 reactor       Exio4: failes to load.
15:12 reactor       What is that?
15:12 Exio4         the dynmap of a mc server
15:12 reactor       I mean, it probably loads, but privoxy cuts it.
15:13 reactor       OldCoder: item definitions locked up
15:13 OldCoder      reactor, I am apparently falling asleep again. To finish: Why did you decide to move from MC to MT? And regarding item definitions, what OS are you using again?
15:14 reactor       I was deprecating Linux on all my machines.
15:14 OldCoder      If you are using Windows I will build a new client with debug code
15:14 reactor       And had no interest of setting up Java merely for games.
15:14 OldCoder      Go on
15:14 OldCoder      deprecating?
15:14 reactor       I use FBSD.
15:14 OldCoder      Did you mean installing?
15:14 OldCoder      Ah
15:15 reactor       Yes, deprecating Linux.
15:15 OldCoder      reactor, Build a new client using latest git
15:15 reactor       As in, migrating. And having splitting \migraine.
15:15 OldCoder      They have added debug code for the item definitions problem
15:15 reactor       Oh.
15:15 reactor       I will.
15:15 OldCoder      Very well
15:15 OldCoder      So came to MT because more portable
15:15 reactor       Yes.
15:15 OldCoder      Java is irritating
15:15 reactor       And I think MT is better performance-wise.
15:16 OldCoder      OK. Done for now. (1) Build new client. (2) Identify building sometime but looks like you can't get in.
15:16 reactor       A sec.
15:16 reactor       That is not a building.
15:16 reactor       That is a ferris wheel.
15:16 reactor       Eh
15:17 reactor       Oh. The white one.
15:17 reactor       Probably an apartment block.
15:17 reactor       Most East European people live in flat blocks.
15:17 reactor       Better in cold climate.
15:19 OldCoder      Did you get the coords? You have teleport
15:20 reactor       21:08 < OldCoder> reactor, BTW What is the building I see at -60.8, 17.7, 185.8 ?
15:20 reactor       It's in front of the ferris wheel, isn't it?
15:20 OldCoder      Not too far
15:20 reactor       It's white?
15:21 OldCoder      Light grey
15:21 reactor       windows 1x1m?
15:21 OldCoder      Plus some that are much wider
15:21 OldCoder      With blue inside
15:21 OldCoder      Thought it might be a hospital
15:22 OldCoder      I look forward to more descriptions of the places; this was one promise that you made
15:22 OldCoder      When time permits
15:22 reactor       No.
15:22 reactor       The hospital is to the east.
15:23 reactor       Do not remind me of hospitals.
15:23 OldCoder      Not today; but tell me of the one in the city sometime
15:23 reactor       I see. Blue inside. It's likely an apartment block, and I did not correct the model.
15:24 reactor       I'm gonna.
15:24 OldCoder      reactor, I must rest now. Your remarks are appreciated.
15:24 OldCoder      This was a good project I think
15:25 OldCoder      reactor, If you can, build and test a new client. I promised Sapier I would gather results. You can PM them to me.
15:25 OldCoder      Others, that applies to you too. Try latest git client and see if my worlds lock up on item definitions.
15:25 OldCoder      o/
15:25 reactor       418 1 -481
15:26 reactor       The hospital.
15:26 reactor       I don't remember its correct name.
15:26 reactor       Just call it the hospital for a while.
15:26 reactor       Do you still have my list?
15:26 reactor       Can you maintain it in the same format?
15:26 reactor       x<TAB>y<TAB>z<TAB>%done<TAB>descr?
15:27 reactor       Good night.
15:27 reactor       I'm not sure if I have time to fetch/build MT now.
15:29 OldCoder      reactor, does not need to be immediate; when you can
15:29 OldCoder      regarding your list we will talk
15:29 OldCoder      Zzz
15:29 reactor       Night.
16:06 Jordach       !op
16:06 DustinP       i got a problem
16:07 DustinP       who is the owner of minetest
16:07 DustinP       in this chatroom
16:08 Jordach       per. xyz's suggestion of helpful people being voiced
16:08 reactor       "chatroom"
16:08 reactor       Lol, Windowsers.
16:08 Jordach       o/ o\
16:09 Jordach       shit
16:09 Jordach       o/ \o
16:09 Jordach       better
16:09 reactor       o/\o
16:09 reactor       o|o
16:09 reactor       What associations does this figure cause?
16:10 Jordach       my one was a high five
16:11 Exio4         oJo
16:14 * Jordach     is planning on his machine as a entire web mirror
16:14 reactor       Jordach: ?
16:14 Jordach       insert URL -> get a page uploaded from home with a random string -> page deleted 1 hour later
16:14 Jordach       reactor, it's a bypass for regex web filters
16:16 thexyz        why not just use vpn?
16:16 Jordach       thexyz, disabled at college
16:16 Jordach       same for other UDP / TCP port hacks
16:17 Jordach       a simple page loader / deleter is efficient
16:17 reactor       Why not just set up a proxy?
16:17 Jordach       reactor, they scan for those
16:17 reactor       A caching one?
16:17 Jordach       and i have no access to DNS / Proxy settings
16:17 sfan5         Jordach: what about IP over ICMP
16:17 reactor       How come?
16:18 sfan5         or IP over DNS
16:18 sfan5         you can tunnel IP over anything
16:18 Jordach       reactor, college machines are locked to the college filter - my method has no regex-able strings to be blocked
16:18 Jordach       and i have infinite bandwidth :D
16:19 Jordach       and because i have a DYN IP, i can just write down my address and paste it for later
16:19 thexyz        ssh on 80 port
16:20 Jordach       thexyz, i could also use ssh -- then vnc home (tightVNC has a JAVA APP - which all the machines have JAVA :>)
16:20 sfan5         what about ssh on port 443
16:21 Jordach       sfan5, i can access your webserver at 8080
16:21 thexyz        Jordach: wat
16:21 thexyz        you just tunnel all your traffic through ssh
16:21 Jordach       thexyz, apparently TCP connections aren't filtered so much as UD[
16:21 Jordach       UDP*
16:21 sfan5         Jordach: my school blocks certain ports too
16:21 Exio4         sfan5: IP over IRC
16:21 Jordach       high volume encryption seems unusual
16:21 sfan5         they have a strict 80,443 whitelist
16:21 sfan5         Exio4: :P
16:22 Exio4         Jordach: can you IRC at college?
16:22 Exio4         You have a nearly impossible chance of a DEA raid (-90,158.5%)
16:22 Exio4         err
16:22 Exio4         https://github.com/EXio4/IPoIRC/
16:22 Exio4         bad clipboard
16:22 Jordach       Exio4, no, but i could setup quassel core here right now :D
16:23 Exio4         ssh -D 1080 -p 80 your-ip
16:23 Jordach       Exio4, lol, best git avatar ever
16:23 Jordach       https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/10af9c8a4faa63f963092f623087400c?d=https%3A%2F%2Fidenticons.github.com%2F1b086912be41a254955c3b06d686a646.png&r=x&s=440
16:23 sfan5         ''Security\niodine uses challenge-response login secured by MD5 hash.''
16:23 sfan5         >secured by MD5 hash
16:24 sfan5         >MD5 >secured
16:24 sfan5         lol
16:24 Jordach       all im doing is MITM against their MITM filter
16:24 Exio4         just use ssh
16:24 Exio4         i've used it as socks proxy
16:24 Jordach       Exio4, depends if i can use it
16:25 Jordach       Exio4, i already said proxy ports and ip is LOCKED.
16:25 Exio4         you do ssh -D 1080 -p 80 yourip
16:25 Exio4         it will use the "80" port
16:25 Jordach       Exio4, windows machines over there
16:25 Exio4         putty supports this
16:25 sfan5         windumb*
16:25 Exio4         or you can use openssh
16:26 Jordach       Exio4, the machines are locked - i can only use apps stored on my flash drive (local ones are wiped after log off)
16:26 Jordach       nor can i modify proxy settings or install
16:26 Exio4         they have deepfreeze?
16:26 Jordach       nope
16:26 Exio4         use "fuckdeepfreeze"
16:26 Exio4         look at what they are using
16:26 Exio4         and you can use putty portable
16:26 Exio4         or a firefox portable
16:27 Exio4         you could even use colinux + portable X11, or use a vm
16:27 Jordach       Exio4, all traffic must go through their proxy -- wifi devices are excluded
16:27 Exio4         or anything
16:27 Jordach       (iPads auto detect it - it's given by the local network switch)
16:27 Exio4         so just make a proxychain...
16:27 Jordach       what point of normal proxies DON'T work
16:28 Exio4         you say it like it was impossible to bypass
16:28 sfan5         Exio4: school usually use something that syncs the harddrive to a network image on-boot
16:28 sfan5         +s
16:28 Exio4         ah
16:28 Exio4         i c
16:29 Exio4         just use a flash drive then
16:29 Exio4         do they have the bios locked
16:29 thexyz        lol
16:29 sfan5         my school has the bios locked, a network syncing thing 'myshn' and proxy with 80,443 whitelist
16:30 Exio4         is icmp blocked?
16:30 sfan5         no
16:31 sfan5         also some teacher at my school unplugged the network switch because the fan was being too loud and then nobody could login
16:32 sfan5         and every computer has a shared USB printer set up which is actually the printer at the teacher's computer (which is shared over the network)
16:38 thexyz        wow so cheap
16:38 thexyz        in russia we have innovations, see
16:38 thexyz        http://i.imgur.com/EWOxZYk.jpg
16:42 Jordach       ...is that thexyz
16:43 thexyz        no, i hate macs
16:43 thexyz        and turbo pascal is quite meh
16:49 thexyz        whoa
16:49 thexyz        no gay.pl for quassel
16:50 thexyz        wait
16:50 thexyz        it doesn't even support scripts/plugins
16:51 Exio4         that is why quassel sux
16:52 thexyz        what doesn't?
16:59 EvergreenTree o/
17:00 * Calinou     brohooves EvergreenTree /)
17:04 Jordach       o/
17:22 EvergreenTree Jordach, Wait, why aren't you on the user list?
17:27 Jordach       voice = readily availible support person
18:07 PilzAdam      Hello everyone!
18:07 VanessaE      hi
18:21 PilzAdam      bbcode fail: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=118774#p118774
18:23 rubenwardy    Hi all
18:31 VanessaE      hi
19:20 iqualfragile  hi rubenwardy, VanessaE
19:20 rubenwardy    Hi
19:20 VanessaE      hi
19:40 RealBadAngel  PilzAdam,  could you make windows build for me?
19:42 PilzAdam      of what?
19:46 VanessaE      PilzAdam: of this, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest
19:46 VanessaE      specifically the shaders_rework branch
19:47 VanessaE      (just a wild guess ;) )
19:50 RealBadAngel  yeah, thats it
19:51 RealBadAngel  PilzAdam, btw, in minetest_game book texture is 16x17
19:52 Jordach       just fucking crop it - not scale it
19:52 Jordach       that's why the ingots look like shit
19:58 VanessaE      just borrow the brass ingot from homedecor and fucking re-color it to suit.
19:58 VanessaE      that one is hand-drawn and I think it looks pretty damn good
19:59 VanessaE      really though, are we gonna just sit her blabbing about it, or is someone gonna DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?
20:00 VanessaE      (it's too late for the 0.4.8 cycle though)
20:00 Jordach       !tell MinetestBot <3
20:00 MinetestBot   Jordach: I'll pass that on when MinetestBot is around
20:00 VanessaE      ha!
20:01 Jordach       the trap is set
20:01 Jordach       next person to use MinetestBot gets more :D
20:06 PilzAdam      !rainbow nice trick, Jordach
20:06 MinetestBot   3n7i10c8e9 5t15r9i14c7k14,2 14J6o3r13d5a3c9h
20:06 Jordach       hm
20:06 Jordach       aren't these messages on join
20:06 Jordach       we need MinetestBot to leave and join again <- sfan5
20:07 PilzAdam      !tell PilzAdam nope, when you next say something
20:07 MinetestBot   PilzAdam: <PilzAdam> nope, when you next say something
20:07 MinetestBot   PilzAdam: I'll pass that on when PilzAdam is around
20:07 sfan5         hm?
20:07 sfan5         why?
20:07 sfan5         oj
20:07 sfan5         oh*
20:08 RealBadAngel  so, what about windows build?
20:09 sfan5         MinetestBot doesn't notice it's own presence
20:09 sfan5         RealBadAngel: are you talking to me?
20:09 Jordach       <3 MinetestBot
20:09 MinetestBot   <3 Jordach
20:10 PilzAdam      RealBadAngel, didnt you build it yourself a while ago?
20:10 RealBadAngel  sfan5, you or PilzAdam, i need win build out of https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest/tree/shaders_rework
20:10 ShadowNinja   sfan5: Perhaps you should disable !tell as it conflicts with ShadowBot...
20:11 Jordach       ShadowNinja, you're now RFC: stop setting standards
20:11 Jordach       s/now/not
20:11 RealBadAngel  PilzAdam, i was using ur build with modified shaders only
20:11 sfan5         what about disabling ShadowBot's tell
20:11 ShadowNinja   sfan5: But ShadowBot's tell is better!
20:11 ShadowNinja   :-)
20:12 sfan5         well... I still don't see how it conflicts
20:12 ShadowNinja   Well I could remove it from defaultplugin, so you have to use !later tell.
20:12 ShadowNinja   Or I could rename it with !rename.
20:12 sfan5         RealBadAngel: building right now
20:13 sfan5         anything else? custom minetest_game?
20:13 ShadowNinja   ~defaultplugin --remove tell
20:13 ShadowBot     ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded.
20:13 MinetestBot   ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded.
20:14 sfan5         war
20:14 sfan5         wat*
20:14 ShadowNinja   Ha ha.
20:14 sfan5         MinetestBot!
20:14 MinetestBot   sfan5!
20:14 sfan5         MinetestBot: stop doing weird things
20:14 ShadowNinja   sfan5: Jordach I presume.
20:14 PilzAdam      yes, yes, Jordach!
20:14 sfan5         I think that too
20:14 * PilzAdam    walks silently away
20:15 * sfan5       puts a kitten on PilzAdam's head
20:15 PilzAdam      you dont even know where I am!
20:16 Jordach       WAIT WHAT
20:16 * Jordach     didn't understand PilzAdam's HL
20:16 PilzAdam      nothing important
20:16 PilzAdam      !next
20:16 MinetestBot   Another satisfied customer. Next!
20:17 ShadowNinja   Hah, copied from phrik.
20:17 Jordach       s/satisfied/converted to Open Source/
20:17 PilzAdam      s/Open Source/Free Software/
20:20 ShadowNinja   Alright, ShadowBot should be enabled here with !kick and the like disabled.  Can someone test?
20:20 PilzAdam      !kick ShadowNinja :-p
20:20 ShadowBot     PilzAdam: Error: You're missing some capability you need. This could be because you actually possess the anti-capability for the capability that's required of you, or because the channel provides that anti-capability by default, or because the global capabilities include that anti-capability. Or, it could be because the channel or supybot.capabilities.default is set to False, meaning that no commands are allowed unless explici
20:21 ShadowNinja   So... Did it work?
20:21 PilzAdam      ShadowNinja, didnt work, see logs
20:21 ShadowNinja   :-(
20:21 Jordach       !kick ShadowBot
20:21 Jordach       oh that works
20:21 Jordach       :P
20:22 Jordach       i bet shadowbot tried to execute the command as the kick ensued
20:23 Jordach       interestingly enough, it's not in the list of -blops kick messages
20:23 PilzAdam      Jordach, MinetestBot is too fast for ShadowBot
20:23 Jordach       giggity
20:23 Jordach       >:D
20:24 PilzAdam      !rainbow /me rules
20:24 MinetestBot   9/8m7e6 8r7u3l14e4s
20:28 sfan5         RealBadAngel: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/minetest-0.4.7-86ef714-rba-shaders-win32.7z
20:36 RealBadAngel  sfan5, thx
20:53 PilzAdam      bye
20:53 VanessaE      whoa, he actually waited a few seconds that time!
21:00 dafull97      HEy guys
21:14 VanessaE      hi
21:16 VanessaE      pretty mush
21:16 VanessaE      much*
21:27 ele__         hello
21:29 ele__         i have a question
21:31 ele__         hello
21:35 ele__         anyone her
21:35 VanessaE      hi
21:36 ele__         i have a question about an item i have in minetest
21:37 ele__         what does a command block do
21:37 VanessaE      sounds like a mesecons item
21:37 VanessaE      it sends a server command (such as /say or /status) when it receives an appropriate signal
21:38 Calinou       update it, then BOOM! it breaks
21:38 * Calinou     gallops away
21:38 Calinou       <john_minetest> I think it was only invented to annoy linux users
21:38 Calinou       UEFI has a decent amount of upsides, but as a side effect it was used for vendor lock-in
21:40 ele__         so its like a bomb
21:40 VanessaE      ele__: um, no
21:41 VanessaE      it executes commands according to what the user who placed it has the privs to execute
21:41 Calinou       it could cause explosions at a certain coordinate with a mod ;)
21:41 Calinou       or crash the server
21:41 ele__         so in order to use it, i need to use a command
21:42 EvergreenTree ele__, no..
21:43 ele__         im not getting it, it seems a bit confusing, is there a better way to explain it
21:46 VanessaE      no, you send it a signal and it executes whatever command you told it to execute.
21:46 VanessaE      an admin could use it to reboot a server when an in-game button is clicked, for example.
21:55 ele__         oh...ok, thanks
22:48 gzg`          Are there a solid server-setup and maintenance guides floating around?
22:50 gzg`          there any*
23:02 iqualfragile  gzg`: i do not think so
23:02 iqualfragile  but if you have any questions: feel free to ask
23:21 Peacock       penis envy? http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/11/18/2046208/canonical-developer-warns-about-banking-with-linux-mint