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00:20 hmmmm haha, it's getting there http://s16.postimg.org/fabvcplxh/​map_seed_1015227612563501637.png
00:20 hmmmm just need to handle the edge cases now
00:21 hmmmm @paramat
00:25 hmmmm that's 2 convolutions with a flat blur kernel and a radius of 3
00:25 hmmmm so I think it'll do the trick (for chunky blocks anyway, not so much images)
00:29 Exio4 inkscape is pretty l33t
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00:31 NakedFury hmmmm, why is the right side different?
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02:07 MinetestBot Peacock: paramat was last seen at 2013-11-17 09:15:50 UTC on #minetest
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03:00 paramat thanks for testing asteriodlvm Peacock!
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03:00 Peacock no prob
03:00 Peacock tho i had a problem with my previous lvm converts and it seems to still be there with yours: the odd dark shadow spot :/
03:01 Peacock at first i thought minp.y and maxp.y needed to be -16/+16 too, but i still found dark spots after wandering the map
03:02 paramat yeah i'm not sure about the 'update lighting' having +16 -16 included
03:02 Peacock its probably something up with calc_lighting
03:03 Peacock though i check api.txt and it doesn't state that i have to provide a p1/p2
03:03 paramat yeah sorry 'calc lighting' :) is what i meant
03:03 Peacock np i understood :P
03:04 paramat i'm amazed and super happy it works 8)
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03:04 * paramat reads logs ...
03:05 Peacock the first thing i noticed was how bloody fast it was :-)
03:06 paramat yeah 3D noise used to be slow, and my mods are super-heavy on the 3D noise
03:08 paramat also in converting it to perlinmaps i discovered it was not possible to use one noise to vary persistence of another, so i dropped that feature and have a fixed persistence of 0.6
03:09 paramat this eliminated one of the noises and increased the speed
03:09 Peacock well its still faster than the first version i lvm'd :-)
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03:15 Peacock im in the process of LVM'ing the mapp mod now, thats another bottle of trickysauce right there lol
03:18 paramat eh pilzadam's map mod? cant see how LVM can be used in that :/
03:18 Peacock oh, i dont know if it makes any difference to performance, but you define your cid {} within on_generated, which i assume means minetest.get_content_id() is called for every chunk * the number of nodes you need
03:18 Peacock no not pilzadams', 4aiman's mapp mod
03:18 Peacock didn't know he forked that
03:19 paramat ah okay mapp not map :)
03:19 Peacock yeah i doubled the size of mapp but it's hellishly slow lol
03:19 Peacock and it doesn't work that well in environments with no ground so i have to fix that
03:26 paramat ugh using stable releases makes me feel left out and forgotten, but stable is the official release!
03:26 Peacock hell i stuck with 0.4.6 long after 0.4.7 was considered stable lol
03:28 Peacock unfortunately alot of stuff gets pulled, re-pulled and un-pulled from latest, and i hate fucking up my maps to be a guinea pig lol
03:32 Peacock though you can be pretty sure lvm won't be seeing major changes between now and 0.4.8
03:34 paramat to make it easier on myself i left out craters from asteroidlvm, might add those in once im happy with them. you're missing out on a beautiful experience if you disable the comet atmospheres ;)
03:34 paramat although they make building more difficult
03:34 Peacock well im mostly thinking about performance on the p4, if my wife can't play than it's not much use :/
03:35 Peacock i even have to be careful with complicated nodeboxes and use_texture_alpha on that machine
03:38 paramat a solution would be to make atmos nodes opaque from the outside, and still use 'post effect colour' when inside
03:38 Peacock well if i were you i wouldn't change the main branch if you like it, it can be easily disabled either way
03:38 paramat yes i agree
03:39 paramat i may use opaque fog nodes for normal mapgens, so there's no interference with water, and for higher FPS
03:40 paramat so i can re-introduce fog to paragenv7 and paragen
03:40 Peacock im not even sure i'll bother with an airgen, i might just texture players to appear in spacesuits lol
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03:44 paramat yes airgen is indeed a pain, i think i'll keep it out of asteroid mod or make a branch with airgen, because i expect most players wont want it and want something faster and simpler
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03:48 Peacock abm-meltdowns and air leaks lol
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04:30 dafull97 Hey guys
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04:40 hoodedice If a pull request is closed, does that mean that the code that was pushed has been accepted and merged?
04:49 VanessaE not always, but sometimes
04:49 VanessaE it can also mean the issue was addressed in some other way
04:50 hoodedice Pull 1000
04:50 hoodedice https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1000
04:50 hoodedice Was entity dupe fixed once and for all?
04:50 VanessaE kwolekr commented 9 hours ago
04:50 VanessaE 21789cc
04:50 VanessaE that means it was merged.
04:51 hoodedice YAAY
04:51 hoodedice Now I guess carts won't lag now
04:53 VanessaE hope not :)
04:55 hoodedice ?
04:55 hoodedice oh
04:58 hoodedice Umm, how do I find out which build
04:58 hoodedice was built when?
04:58 hoodedice Isn't there a list of commits somewhere?
04:59 hoodedice Uh no, got what I needed.
05:00 dafull97 kaeza, you here?
05:02 VanessaE https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest/commits/master
05:04 hoodedice Why thank you VanessaE
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05:39 paramat Peac0ck, i made the mistake of renaming the mod, items and nodes to asteroidlvm, i'm now changing those back so it can be the new version in the asteroid git repo when 0.4.8 is out
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07:02 VanessaE night all.
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10:22 LazyJ Here's an old curiosity: In Minetest, why do images shimmer when at the far extremes of the map? I've noticed this effect at 20,000 and at 10,000. What is the non-shimmer range in MT? 5,000 or less? 8,000 or less, etc?
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11:36 paramat the jacket potato wieldhand urgently needs to be replaced https://github.com/minetes​t/minetest_game/issues/218 how about for 0.4.8?
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12:46 reactor o/
12:46 reactor OldCoder: any news?
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13:04 EvergreenTree o/
13:07 reactor EvergreenTree: \o
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13:35 reactor Why is there no Russian Minetest channel?
13:35 reactor Or at least, for East Bloc?
13:36 RealBadAngel feel free to create one
13:36 reactor Uh. I don't feel like it today.
13:36 RealBadAngel sfan5, are you here? PilzAdam?
13:42 reactor Functional programming is great.
13:47 EvergreenTree RealBadAngel, It appears they aren't
13:56 reactor http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/ima​ges/newsfeed/000/346/651/4ca.gif
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14:28 OldCoder Hello
14:28 OldCoder reactor, I fell asleep
14:28 OldCoder I will proceed to migrate world now
14:29 reactor mk
14:32 OldCoder Migration in progress
14:40 reactor Migration to what?
14:40 reactor I've always thought "migration" and "migraine" are related.
14:45 sfan5 RealBadAngel: hm?
14:46 reactor You mean, robots have headaches, too?
14:46 OldCoder
14:46 OldCoder reactor, Migration of SQLite3 to LevelDB. It is done. Join the world and check please. BTW The lock-ups on item definitions are a known bug apparently. Core devs seem to be working on it.
14:47 reactor 30017?
14:47 OldCoder Yes
14:51 reactor OldCoder: good.
14:51 reactor It's working.
14:52 reactor But the ambient sounds are too loud.
14:52 reactor The map loads well now, btw.
14:52 reactor What did you tweak?
14:52 reactor Oh, also, are the textures there?
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14:56 reactor iqualfragile: crappy ISP, too, eh?
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14:57 OldCoder reactor, I did not tweak anything
14:57 OldCoder reactor, This is the previous world with only the map replaced
14:58 OldCoder reactor, while you are here, can you take a couple of minutes to tell us again why you did this project? If it means anything special to you? How you did it?
14:58 reactor Well.
14:58 reactor Eh.
14:58 reactor I'm interested in physics.
14:58 OldCoder Take your time.
14:59 reactor I don't know how I came to be interested in Pripyat.
14:59 OldCoder But you did. Then what?
14:59 reactor Maybe it has to do with the fact I like Soviet stuff.
14:59 OldCoder Interested in? From historical perspective?
14:59 reactor Yes.
15:00 reactor Our family used to live well back.
15:00 OldCoder Well as in long? Or Good?
15:00 reactor We had everything.
15:01 reactor Oh well. Just put it like that. I like Soviet history.
15:02 OldCoder And decided to build a city
15:03 reactor Not build. Model.
15:03 OldCoder Model
15:03 OldCoder Do you recall that decision?
15:03 reactor Just for tun.
15:03 OldCoder k
15:03 reactor I didn't really decide.
15:03 OldCoder Evolved
15:03 reactor I randomy googled.
15:03 OldCoder How long did it take?
15:03 OldCoder Go on
15:03 reactor "pripyat minecraft"
15:03 OldCoder Googled
15:03 OldCoder Found no Pripyat
15:03 reactor Saw the map, it wasn't realistic enough.
15:03 OldCoder Decided to add one?
15:03 OldCoder Ah
15:03 OldCoder There was a Pripyat
15:03 OldCoder Decided to fix it
15:04 reactor There are some Pripyats already.
15:04 OldCoder How did you get the map? or is yours new?
15:04 reactor None is like real.
15:04 reactor It's a part of TheZone by Tsarcorp.
15:04 reactor (Minecraft)
15:04 OldCoder So you got one and patched it
15:04 reactor Tsarcorp didn't bother to detail the city.
15:04 OldCoder How was it acquired?
15:04 reactor He seems more focused on fictional STALKER stuff.
15:04 reactor I downloaded it.
15:05 reactor from PlanetMinecraft
15:05 OldCoder It is downloadable?
15:05 reactor It is.
15:05 OldCoder MC provides downloadable maps then
15:05 OldCoder He released it under a license?
15:05 reactor I don't remember.
15:05 * OldCoder shrugs
15:05 reactor He releases a .zip for downloads.
15:05 OldCoder So started adding to a released MC world
15:05 OldCoder Over time; how long did it take?
15:06 reactor About a hundred man-hours in last three years.
15:06 OldCoder Pretty big investment
15:06 OldCoder Are you satisfied with the results for the time?
15:06 reactor 30 hours a year?
15:06 reactor Not that much.
15:07 OldCoder It is good though
15:07 OldCoder For the time
15:07 OldCoder Isn't it?
15:07 reactor Well, there's some use in it.
15:07 Exio4 there is nothing like a clay-floored insland
15:07 reactor I relax my left brain.
15:07 OldCoder Go on
15:08 Exio4 in MC, it was wool before >:D
15:08 OldCoder Exio4, ?
15:08 reactor I do something right-brained once in a while, to rest up and catch on with my unconscious.
15:08 OldCoder reactor, BTW What is the building I see at -60.8, 17.7, 185.8 ?
15:08 reactor ?!
15:09 reactor Gonna see.
15:09 reactor The list I made is by far not complete.
15:09 reactor I will add more coordinates gradually.
15:09 reactor Meanwhile, one could use wikimapia.org.
15:10 OldCoder I would not know what to do
15:10 Exio4 reactor: http://dynmap.shadowempire.in/?worldname=​world&mapname=flat&zoom=5&x=-​1395.75&y=64&z=309.0000000000001
15:12 Exio4 hardened clay, magenta atm, it was wool, random pink/magenta/purple
15:12 Exio4 it is a total of 3500~ iirc
15:12 reactor Exio4: failes to load.
15:12 reactor What is that?
15:12 Exio4 the dynmap of a mc server
15:12 reactor I mean, it probably loads, but privoxy cuts it.
15:13 reactor OldCoder: item definitions locked up
15:13 OldCoder reactor, I am apparently falling asleep again. To finish: Why did you decide to move from MC to MT? And regarding item definitions, what OS are you using again?
15:14 reactor I was deprecating Linux on all my machines.
15:14 OldCoder If you are using Windows I will build a new client with debug code
15:14 reactor And had no interest of setting up Java merely for games.
15:14 OldCoder Go on
15:14 OldCoder deprecating?
15:14 reactor I use FBSD.
15:14 OldCoder Did you mean installing?
15:14 OldCoder Ah
15:15 reactor Yes, deprecating Linux.
15:15 OldCoder reactor, Build a new client using latest git
15:15 reactor As in, migrating. And having splitting \migraine.
15:15 OldCoder They have added debug code for the item definitions problem
15:15 reactor Oh.
15:15 reactor I will.
15:15 OldCoder Very well
15:15 OldCoder So came to MT because more portable
15:15 reactor Yes.
15:15 OldCoder Java is irritating
15:15 reactor And I think MT is better performance-wise.
15:16 OldCoder OK. Done for now. (1) Build new client. (2) Identify building sometime but looks like you can't get in.
15:16 reactor A sec.
15:16 reactor That is not a building.
15:16 reactor That is a ferris wheel.
15:16 reactor Eh
15:17 reactor Oh. The white one.
15:17 reactor Probably an apartment block.
15:17 reactor Most East European people live in flat blocks.
15:17 reactor Better in cold climate.
15:19 OldCoder Did you get the coords? You have teleport
15:20 reactor 21:08 < OldCoder> reactor, BTW What is the building I see at -60.8, 17.7, 185.8 ?
15:20 reactor It's in front of the ferris wheel, isn't it?
15:20 OldCoder Not too far
15:20 reactor It's white?
15:21 OldCoder Light grey
15:21 reactor windows 1x1m?
15:21 OldCoder Plus some that are much wider
15:21 OldCoder With blue inside
15:21 OldCoder Thought it might be a hospital
15:22 OldCoder I look forward to more descriptions of the places; this was one promise that you made
15:22 OldCoder When time permits
15:22 reactor No.
15:22 reactor The hospital is to the east.
15:23 reactor Do not remind me of hospitals.
15:23 OldCoder Not today; but tell me of the one in the city sometime
15:23 reactor I see. Blue inside. It's likely an apartment block, and I did not correct the model.
15:24 reactor I'm gonna.
15:24 OldCoder reactor, I must rest now. Your remarks are appreciated.
15:24 OldCoder This was a good project I think
15:25 OldCoder reactor, If you can, build and test a new client. I promised Sapier I would gather results. You can PM them to me.
15:25 OldCoder Others, that applies to you too. Try latest git client and see if my worlds lock up on item definitions.
15:25 OldCoder o/
15:25 reactor 418 1 -481
15:26 reactor The hospital.
15:26 reactor I don't remember its correct name.
15:26 reactor Just call it the hospital for a while.
15:26 reactor Do you still have my list?
15:26 reactor Can you maintain it in the same format?
15:26 reactor x<TAB>y<TAB>z<TAB>%done<TAB>descr?
15:27 reactor Good night.
15:27 reactor I'm not sure if I have time to fetch/build MT now.
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15:29 OldCoder reactor, does not need to be immediate; when you can
15:29 OldCoder regarding your list we will talk
15:29 OldCoder Zzz
15:29 reactor Night.
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16:06 Jordach !op
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16:06 DustinP i got a problem
16:06 Topic for #minetest is now 0.4.8 is right around the corner, hold on! | Website: http://minetest.net | Rules: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | Core Devs: #minetest-dev | Servers: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC Logs: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/
16:07 DustinP who is the owner of minetest
16:07 DustinP in this chatroom
16:08 Jordach per. xyz's suggestion of helpful people being voiced
16:08 reactor "chatroom"
16:08 reactor Lol, Windowsers.
16:08 Jordach o/ o\
16:09 Jordach shit
16:09 Jordach o/ \o
16:09 Jordach better
16:09 reactor o/\o
16:09 reactor o|o
16:09 reactor What associations does this figure cause?
16:10 Jordach my one was a high five
16:11 Exio4 oJo
16:14 * Jordach is planning on his machine as a entire web mirror
16:14 reactor Jordach: ?
16:14 Jordach insert URL -> get a page uploaded from home with a random string -> page deleted 1 hour later
16:14 Jordach reactor, it's a bypass for regex web filters
16:16 thexyz why not just use vpn?
16:16 Jordach thexyz, disabled at college
16:16 Jordach same for other UDP / TCP port hacks
16:17 Jordach a simple page loader / deleter is efficient
16:17 reactor Why not just set up a proxy?
16:17 Jordach reactor, they scan for those
16:17 reactor A caching one?
16:17 Jordach and i have no access to DNS / Proxy settings
16:17 sfan5 Jordach: what about IP over ICMP
16:17 reactor How come?
16:18 sfan5 or IP over DNS
16:18 sfan5 you can tunnel IP over anything
16:18 Jordach reactor, college machines are locked to the college filter - my method has no regex-able strings to be blocked
16:18 Jordach and i have infinite bandwidth :D
16:19 Jordach and because i have a DYN IP, i can just write down my address and paste it for later
16:19 thexyz ssh on 80 port
16:20 Jordach thexyz, i could also use ssh -- then vnc home (tightVNC has a JAVA APP - which all the machines have JAVA :>)
16:20 sfan5 what about ssh on port 443
16:21 Jordach sfan5, i can access your webserver at 8080
16:21 thexyz Jordach: wat
16:21 thexyz you just tunnel all your traffic through ssh
16:21 Jordach thexyz, apparently TCP connections aren't filtered so much as UD[
16:21 Jordach UDP*
16:21 sfan5 Jordach: my school blocks certain ports too
16:21 Exio4 sfan5: IP over IRC
16:21 Jordach high volume encryption seems unusual
16:21 sfan5 they have a strict 80,443 whitelist
16:21 sfan5 Exio4: :P
16:22 Exio4 Jordach: can you IRC at college?
16:22 Exio4 You have a nearly impossible chance of a DEA raid (-90,158.5%)
16:22 Exio4 err
16:22 Exio4 https://github.com/EXio4/IPoIRC/
16:22 Exio4 bad clipboard
16:22 Jordach Exio4, no, but i could setup quassel core here right now :D
16:23 Exio4 ssh -D 1080 -p 80 your-ip
16:23 Jordach Exio4, lol, best git avatar ever
16:23 Jordach https://0.gravatar.com/avatar/10af9c8a4f​aa63f963092f623087400c?d=https%3A%2F%2Fi​denticons.github.com%2F1b086912be41a2549​55c3b06d686a646.png&amp;r=x&amp;s=440
16:23 sfan5 ''Security\niodine uses challenge-response login secured by MD5 hash.''
16:23 sfan5 >secured by MD5 hash
16:24 sfan5 >MD5 >secured
16:24 sfan5 lol
16:24 Jordach all im doing is MITM against their MITM filter
16:24 Exio4 just use ssh
16:24 Exio4 i've used it as socks proxy
16:24 Jordach Exio4, depends if i can use it
16:25 Jordach Exio4, i already said proxy ports and ip is LOCKED.
16:25 Exio4 you do ssh -D 1080 -p 80 yourip
16:25 Exio4 it will use the "80" port
16:25 Jordach Exio4, windows machines over there
16:25 Exio4 putty supports this
16:25 sfan5 windumb*
16:25 Exio4 or you can use openssh
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16:26 Jordach Exio4, the machines are locked - i can only use apps stored on my flash drive (local ones are wiped after log off)
16:26 Jordach nor can i modify proxy settings or install
16:26 Exio4 they have deepfreeze?
16:26 Jordach nope
16:26 Exio4 use "fuckdeepfreeze"
16:26 Exio4 look at what they are using
16:26 Exio4 and you can use putty portable
16:26 Exio4 or a firefox portable
16:27 Exio4 you could even use colinux + portable X11, or use a vm
16:27 Jordach Exio4, all traffic must go through their proxy -- wifi devices are excluded
16:27 Exio4 or anything
16:27 Jordach (iPads auto detect it - it's given by the local network switch)
16:27 Exio4 so just make a proxychain...
16:27 Jordach what point of normal proxies DON'T work
16:28 Exio4 you say it like it was impossible to bypass
16:28 sfan5 Exio4: school usually use something that syncs the harddrive to a network image on-boot
16:28 sfan5 +s
16:28 Exio4 ah
16:28 Exio4 i c
16:29 Exio4 just use a flash drive then
16:29 Exio4 do they have the bios locked
16:29 thexyz lol
16:29 sfan5 my school has the bios locked, a network syncing thing 'myshn' and proxy with 80,443 whitelist
16:30 Exio4 is icmp blocked?
16:30 sfan5 no
16:31 sfan5 also some teacher at my school unplugged the network switch because the fan was being too loud and then nobody could login
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16:32 sfan5 and every computer has a shared USB printer set up which is actually the printer at the teacher's computer (which is shared over the network)
16:38 thexyz wow so cheap
16:38 thexyz in russia we have innovations, see
16:38 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/EWOxZYk.jpg
16:42 Jordach ...is that thexyz
16:43 thexyz no, i hate macs
16:43 thexyz and turbo pascal is quite meh
16:49 thexyz whoa
16:49 thexyz no gay.pl for quassel
16:50 thexyz wait
16:50 thexyz it doesn't even support scripts/plugins
16:51 Exio4 that is why quassel sux
16:52 thexyz what doesn't?
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16:59 EvergreenTree o/
17:00 * Calinou brohooves EvergreenTree /)
17:04 Jordach o/
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17:22 EvergreenTree Jordach, Wait, why aren't you on the user list?
17:27 Jordach voice = readily availible support person
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18:07 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
18:07 VanessaE hi
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18:21 PilzAdam bbcode fail: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=118774#p118774
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18:23 rubenwardy Hi all
18:31 VanessaE hi
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19:20 iqualfragile hi rubenwardy, VanessaE
19:20 rubenwardy Hi
19:20 VanessaE hi
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19:40 RealBadAngel PilzAdam,  could you make windows build for me?
19:42 PilzAdam of what?
19:46 VanessaE PilzAdam: of this, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/minetest
19:46 VanessaE specifically the shaders_rework branch
19:47 VanessaE (just a wild guess ;) )
19:50 RealBadAngel yeah, thats it
19:51 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, btw, in minetest_game book texture is 16x17
19:52 Jordach just fucking crop it - not scale it
19:52 Jordach that's why the ingots look like shit
19:58 VanessaE just borrow the brass ingot from homedecor and fucking re-color it to suit.
19:58 VanessaE that one is hand-drawn and I think it looks pretty damn good
19:59 VanessaE really though, are we gonna just sit her blabbing about it, or is someone gonna DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?
20:00 VanessaE (it's too late for the 0.4.8 cycle though)
20:00 Jordach !tell MinetestBot <3
20:00 MinetestBot Jordach: I'll pass that on when MinetestBot is around
20:00 VanessaE ha!
20:01 Jordach the trap is set
20:01 Jordach next person to use MinetestBot gets more :D
20:06 PilzAdam !rainbow nice trick, Jordach
20:06 MinetestBot 3n7ic8e9 5tr9ic7k,2 J6o3rd5a3c9h
20:06 Jordach hm
20:06 Jordach aren't these messages on join
20:06 Jordach we need MinetestBot to leave and join again <- sfan5
20:07 PilzAdam !tell PilzAdam nope, when you next say something
20:07 MinetestBot PilzAdam: <PilzAdam> nope, when you next say something
20:07 MinetestBot PilzAdam: I'll pass that on when PilzAdam is around
20:07 sfan5 hm?
20:07 sfan5 why?
20:07 sfan5 oj
20:07 sfan5 oh*
20:08 RealBadAngel so, what about windows build?
20:09 sfan5 MinetestBot doesn't notice it's own presence
20:09 sfan5 RealBadAngel: are you talking to me?
20:09 Jordach <3 MinetestBot
20:09 MinetestBot <3 Jordach
20:10 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, didnt you build it yourself a while ago?
20:10 RealBadAngel sfan5, you or PilzAdam, i need win build out of https://github.com/RealBadAnge​l/minetest/tree/shaders_rework
20:10 ShadowNinja sfan5: Perhaps you should disable !tell as it conflicts with ShadowBot...
20:11 Jordach ShadowNinja, you're now RFC: stop setting standards
20:11 Jordach s/now/not
20:11 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, i was using ur build with modified shaders only
20:11 sfan5 what about disabling ShadowBot's tell
20:11 ShadowNinja sfan5: But ShadowBot's tell is better!
20:11 ShadowNinja :-)
20:12 sfan5 well... I still don't see how it conflicts
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20:12 ShadowNinja Well I could remove it from defaultplugin, so you have to use !later tell.
20:12 ShadowNinja Or I could rename it with !rename.
20:12 sfan5 RealBadAngel: building right now
20:13 sfan5 anything else? custom minetest_game?
20:13 ShadowNinja ~defaultplugin --remove tell
20:13 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded.
20:13 MinetestBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded.
20:14 sfan5 war
20:14 sfan5 wat*
20:14 ShadowNinja Ha ha.
20:14 sfan5 MinetestBot!
20:14 MinetestBot sfan5!
20:14 sfan5 MinetestBot: stop doing weird things
20:14 ShadowNinja sfan5: Jordach I presume.
20:14 PilzAdam yes, yes, Jordach!
20:14 sfan5 I think that too
20:14 * PilzAdam walks silently away
20:15 * sfan5 puts a kitten on PilzAdam's head
20:15 PilzAdam you dont even know where I am!
20:16 Jordach WAIT WHAT
20:16 * Jordach didn't understand PilzAdam's HL
20:16 PilzAdam nothing important
20:16 PilzAdam !next
20:16 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next!
20:17 ShadowNinja Hah, copied from phrik.
20:17 Jordach s/satisfied/converted to Open Source/
20:17 PilzAdam s/Open Source/Free Software/
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20:20 ShadowNinja Alright, ShadowBot should be enabled here with !kick and the like disabled.  Can someone test?
20:20 PilzAdam !kick ShadowNinja :-p
20:20 ShadowNinja was kicked by MinetestBot: :-p
20:20 ShadowBot PilzAdam: Error: You're missing some capability you need. This could be because you actually possess the anti-capability for the capability that's required of you, or because the channel provides that anti-capability by default, or because the global capabilities include that anti-capability. Or, it could be because the channel or supybot.capabilities.default is set to False, meaning that no commands are allowed unless explici
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20:21 ShadowNinja So... Did it work?
20:21 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, didnt work, see logs
20:21 ShadowNinja :-(
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20:21 Jordach !kick ShadowBot
20:21 ShadowBot was kicked by MinetestBot: ShadowBot
20:21 Jordach oh that works
20:21 Jordach :P
20:22 Jordach i bet shadowbot tried to execute the command as the kick ensued
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20:23 Jordach interestingly enough, it's not in the list of -blops kick messages
20:23 PilzAdam Jordach, MinetestBot is too fast for ShadowBot
20:23 Jordach giggity
20:23 Jordach >:D
20:24 PilzAdam !rainbow /me rules
20:24 MinetestBot 9/8m7e6 8r7u3le4s
20:28 sfan5 RealBadAngel: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/minetest-​0.4.7-86ef714-rba-shaders-win32.7z
20:36 RealBadAngel sfan5, thx
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20:53 PilzAdam bye
20:53 VanessaE whoa, he actually waited a few seconds that time!
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21:00 dafull97 HEy guys
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21:14 john_minetest Hello everykitten
21:14 VanessaE hi
21:14 john_minetest Just installing linux on my new PC... UEFI is the hell
21:15 john_minetest I think it was only invented to annoy linux users
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21:16 VanessaE pretty mush
21:16 VanessaE much*
21:16 john_minetest fortunately there is legacy boot
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21:27 ele__ hello
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21:29 ele__ i have a question
21:31 ele__ hello
21:35 ele__ anyone her
21:35 VanessaE hi
21:36 ele__ i have a question about an item i have in minetest
21:37 ele__ what does a command block do
21:37 VanessaE sounds like a mesecons item
21:37 VanessaE it sends a server command (such as /say or /status) when it receives an appropriate signal
21:38 john_minetest BOOM! Archlinux works
21:38 Calinou update it, then BOOM! it breaks
21:38 * Calinou gallops away
21:38 Calinou <john_minetest> I think it was only invented to annoy linux users
21:38 Calinou UEFI has a decent amount of upsides, but as a side effect it was used for vendor lock-in
21:40 ele__ so its like a bomb
21:40 VanessaE ele__: um, no
21:41 VanessaE it executes commands according to what the user who placed it has the privs to execute
21:41 Calinou it could cause explosions at a certain coordinate with a mod ;)
21:41 Calinou or crash the server
21:41 ele__ so in order to use it, i need to use a command
21:42 EvergreenTree ele__, no..
21:43 ele__ im not getting it, it seems a bit confusing, is there a better way to explain it
21:46 VanessaE no, you send it a signal and it executes whatever command you told it to execute.
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21:46 VanessaE an admin could use it to reboot a server when an in-game button is clicked, for example.
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21:53 john_minetest UEFI is a security risk.
21:55 ele__ oh...ok, thanks
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22:48 gzg` Are there a solid server-setup and maintenance guides floating around?
22:50 gzg` there any*
23:02 iqualfragile gzg`: i do not think so
23:02 iqualfragile but if you have any questions: feel free to ask
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23:21 Peacock penis envy? http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/1​1/18/2046208/canonical-developer-wa​rns-about-banking-with-linux-mint
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