Time Nick Message 00:00 Evergreen Sup everyone 00:03 VanessaE hi 00:09 NekoGloop Evergreen, the table "glooptest" is a table of tables of tables, with one of those tables being a table of tables that has to do with wooden tables. 00:10 VanessaE and all of that contained in the global Lua table :) 00:10 Evergreen Tableception 00:10 VanessaE which is run in a computer that sits on your table. 00:10 NekoGloop if only my computer were on a table 00:48 cy1 So the books mods are kind of eh. 00:48 cy1 There's a mod to write on paper, but only paper, and only one page. 00:49 cy1 There's a mod to write on bookshelves (?) but only two pages on that. 00:49 cy1 What we need is a mod to write in books, with a page turning UI, and then a mod to make bookshelves act like chests which can only store books. 00:50 cy1 Not sure where to put all that text in books though. Some kind of minetest.localstore[...] thing... 00:50 thefamilygrog66 hey! 00:51 thefamilygrog66 what's that sound of an aircraft taking off? must be my computer compiling minetest... 00:52 Evergreen plol 00:52 Miner_48er cy1 something like the wiki mod? 00:53 cy1 Miner_48er: Huh, yeah that one's pretty neat. 00:55 cy1 My idea has the books just numbered though, to distinguish their contents. Not a single book capable of loading all the book material. 00:59 NakedFury how many pages per book on your concept idea? 00:59 cy1 NakedFury: I wouldn't set a particular limit I guess. Maybe 100 max? 01:00 NakedFury it could depend on like you said how they are stored or possibly book types. 01:00 NakedFury books or scrolls 01:00 cy1 Meh, there's already a written paper mod. 01:00 NakedFury Tomes 01:01 NakedFury well if you do the book idea you might as well do individual paper too with your storing method 01:01 cy1 With my book idea, the books would be read/writable, not the paper. The other mod only touches the paper. Works out IMO 01:10 cy1 Maybe the books mod could make books from written paper, with the contents pre-loaded... that's the only crossover I can see. 01:11 cy1 Oh my other idea was to have a way for the server to send files after the world is loaded. For non-essential things like sounds and stuff. 01:11 cy1 *non-obvious 01:12 NakedFury send files to client? 01:21 cy1 Yeah. 01:22 cy1 Does anyone know how to do permissions in minetest? Like, placing a node, digging a node etc 01:23 NakedFury no 01:23 cy1 oh right, privilege 01:27 kaeza check_player_privs() and get_player_privs() 01:27 kaeza (or the `privs' field in chat command def) 01:27 cy1 Thanks kaeza 01:35 cy1 hm... 01:35 NakedFury working on your server privs? 01:35 cy1 Nah, just poking at books ideas. 01:36 cy1 interesting problem with item_drop. Keeping a static ID for a book. If drops are enabled, upon digging the ID must transfer from the node to the entity. If not, the ID must transfer from the node to the inventory slot it goes in. Which the entity must do if "picked up" 01:39 NekoGloop Hm. Has sdzen/muadtralk just wandered off the face of the earth? Haven't seen them in a while. [/randomnote] 02:03 cy1 Oh yay, entity.itemstring is stack:to_string() that saves metadata I think. 02:59 zsoltisawesome !seen us`0gb 02:59 MinetestBot zsoltisawesome: us`0gb was last seen at 2013-10-14 23:00:50 UTC on #minetest 02:59 zsoltisawesome :( 03:00 zsoltisawesome !seen paramat 03:00 MinetestBot zsoltisawesome: paramat was last seen at 2013-10-17 05:12:35 UTC on #minetest 03:10 cy1 Hmm... 03:11 cy1 if you call minetest.show_formspec then will interaction with that form result in an on_player_recieve_fields? 03:11 cy1 I'm still not clear what a "detached" inventory is. 03:15 rainbow_dash_ Hi, I'm new here... And I have a question... Can anyone explain how git works? I'm sort of lost... 03:16 thefamilygrog66 I wish I could explain it properly... :) 03:16 zsoltisawesome Explain what? 03:17 thefamilygrog66 git 03:17 zsoltisawesome To whom? 03:17 thefamilygrog66 rainbow_dash_ 03:18 zsoltisawesome Ah ok 03:18 zsoltisawesome So I got my server computers 03:18 rainbow_dash_ Sounds expensive... 03:18 thefamilygrog66 oh yeah? 03:19 thefamilygrog66 what are you trying to do with git, rainbow_dash_? 03:19 zsoltisawesome Yup, 4 Dell PowerEdge 2560's 03:21 rainbow_dash_ Well, I'm trying to help a friend upload a lua file to his fork of minetest 03:21 rainbow_dash_ Oh crap, gtg all, see you later! 03:23 zsoltisawesome *facepalm* I showed him how to do it once already... 03:24 zsoltisawesome So yeah I got those server computers 03:26 zsoltisawesome Is 2gb ram and 2 dualcore intel xeon 2ghz processors good? 03:27 zsoltisawesome To host a MT server? 03:29 NekoGloop !seen sdzen 03:29 MinetestBot NekoGloop: Sorry, I haven't seen sdzen around. 03:29 NekoGloop meh 03:33 zsoltisawesome !seen NekoGloop 03:33 MinetestBot zsoltisawesome: nekogloop was last seen at 2013-10-18 03:29:51 UTC on #minetest 03:33 zsoltisawesome Lol 03:59 NekoGloop !seen my_ass 03:59 MinetestBot NekoGloop: Sorry, I haven't seen my_ass around. 04:00 kaeza lol 04:13 stormchaser3000 hi 04:13 stormchaser3000 is anyone on 04:13 us}0gb Hello! 04:13 stormchaser3000 hi 04:13 us}0gb Nope, no one is on. 04:14 * us}0gb is just the greeter robot 04:14 stormchaser3000 lol 04:14 stormchaser3000 nice one 04:15 zsoltisawesome Lol 04:15 NekoGloop ew IceChat :l 04:16 zsoltisawesome Hello my fine friend! 04:16 stormchaser3000 yeah i hate ice chat 04:16 stormchaser3000 but i use it 04:16 us}0gb WHat's wrong with IceChat? 04:16 * us}0gb has never tried it 04:17 * us}0gb hopes it's not as bad as Pidgin 04:17 stormchaser3000 it sucks 04:17 NekoGloop it treats every message as a ping 04:17 NekoGloop EVERY. MESSAGE. 04:17 stormchaser3000 i get an error when trying to log on 04:17 us}0gb I set my chat client to do that. 04:17 stormchaser3000 be cause of my intenet 04:17 us}0gb Not get an error, but alert me to all messages. 04:18 stormchaser3000 yea it alearts me 04:18 stormchaser3000 i am going to make a outube video 04:18 stormchaser3000 youtube 04:18 stormchaser3000 of minetest classic 04:18 stormchaser3000 by darkrose 04:18 us}0gb I've been meaning to try Minetest Classic, but haven't found the time. 04:19 stormchaser3000 i can give you the cource 04:19 stormchaser3000 source 04:19 stormchaser3000 if you want 04:19 stormchaser3000 thare is no linux build 04:19 stormchaser3000 lol 04:19 us}0gb Yeah, I noticed the lack of a build. 04:20 us}0gb I can build it when I have time though. 04:20 zsoltisawesome Wine? 04:20 us}0gb But that could be a while. 04:20 zsoltisawesome Lol 04:20 us}0gb Wine? No thanks, I don't drink. 04:21 zsoltisawesome WHITTY JOKE ALERT XD 04:21 zsoltisawesome I know I spelled it wrong 04:21 us}0gb No worries. I can't spell either. 04:22 zsoltisawesome Lol 04:22 zsoltisawesome Lol 04:23 zsoltisawesome Oops 05:28 zsoltisawesome It's been silent for over an hour 06:32 zsoltisawesome It's been silent for over 2 Hours 06:32 zsoltisawesome What's up with that 06:33 us}0gb No it hasn't. You said something an hour ago. 06:33 * us}0gb busts up laughing 06:37 zsoltisawesome たはたらやさたはやらてたはたさやはたにぬぬまはたらはたさたりさたはた 06:37 zsoltisawesome That's My opinion 06:37 VanessaE dafuq? 06:38 * VanessaE doesn't read chinese. 06:38 VanessaE or whatever language that is 06:44 zsoltisawesome It's japanese, get it right 06:45 us}0gb If she doesn't know the language, how can she get it right? 06:45 zsoltisawesome Chinese make rice, Japanese make anime 06:45 zsoltisawesome Lol 06:47 zsoltisawesome Read my lips, no new taxes <---- biggest lie in the US government 06:47 VanessaE um, that was like 20 years ago 06:47 VanessaE more, even 06:47 VanessaE still as big a lie as ever though :P 06:58 zsoltisawesome Ya that was my point 07:28 artur99 hi 07:28 us}0gb Hello! 07:28 artur99 how is called the selling license 07:28 artur99 ? 07:28 artur99 eg: 07:29 artur99 i build a game 07:29 artur99 and you want to sell it on your website 07:29 artur99 you have to buy from me the selling license 07:29 artur99 how is that license called? 07:30 us}0gb I don't know what that is called, but it doesn't sound like something we support here. 07:30 artur99 yes, i know 07:30 artur99 but i dont know where to ask ::D 07:32 artur99 any new relases? 07:33 us}0gb Of Minetest? The latest is 0.4.7, I don't know if that's new for you. 07:34 artur99 its the first sime when i see you in this room, us}0gb... 07:35 artur99 *time 07:35 us}0gb I'm here sort of frequently, but not all the time. 07:35 artur99 when did u come? :) 07:35 us}0gb About a month ago, I think? 07:36 artur99 oh... thats why i couldnt see you:) 07:36 artur99 i am here since the half of 2012 07:37 artur99 but last months i couldnt get in 07:37 us}0gb Why not? Technical difficulties? 07:37 artur99 no. i didnt accessed freenode for about 2-3 months 07:38 us}0gb That explains why I recognize your name. I used to come here months ago, but I quit Minetest. 07:38 artur99 i was very busy 07:38 artur99 i have a lot og homeworks 07:38 artur99 *of homework 07:39 artur99 what do you mean you used to come here? 07:39 us}0gb I mean I used to use this channel. But then I quit using this channel. Now I'm back. 07:40 artur99 oh, so, you saw me a long time ago? 07:40 artur99 on this channel? 07:40 us}0gb I think so, yes. 07:41 artur99 :) 07:41 us}0gb Though that was back when I was us_0gb or [0gb_us]. 07:41 artur99 oh, i think i remember 07:43 zsoltisawesome hello! 07:43 artur99 hi 07:44 zsoltisawesome ah finally a person who is awake! 07:44 us}0gb Hello! 07:59 deltib there, my keyboard is all clean, and the tribble I pulled out of it, thrown in the trash 08:31 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Anti-Slavery Day! :-D 09:11 adityarajbhatt I am playing minetest for the first time. Surprisingly good. Graphics are sleek and the game runs *very* fast on my machine. Why is this? Is it because it has less features compared to Minecraft? 09:13 adityarajbhatt Ugh, movement is so smooth and fast and suddenly you drop into water and... snail's pace. It is *too* viscous compared to normal rate of sinking of a human body. 09:13 JamesTait The native C implementation probably doesn't hurt, Minecraft is written in Java. 09:14 adityarajbhatt Minetest is in c or c++ ? That would explain it though. 09:14 JamesTait Oh, it might be C++, I don't remember exactly. 09:15 Kray minetest engine is c++ 09:15 adityarajbhatt Wait... yes it is C++. Written in the Irrlicht engine (whatever that is). 09:15 JamesTait Yes, C++ it is. 09:15 adityarajbhatt By the way, water is too dense. Anyone else think so? 09:15 VanessaE it's C++/ 09:15 VanessaE and Lua for the game content. 09:16 VanessaE and yeah, the water is too viscous. 09:16 adityarajbhatt Seriously, it takes too long to reach the bottom of anything. What is enable disable full viewing range? 09:16 adityarajbhatt I meant bottom of a lake or so. But full viewing range? 09:16 VanessaE that allows you to see all blocks that have been explored recently. 09:17 VanessaE regardless of the effect on fps 09:17 VanessaE oh, bottom of a lake? swim down. 09:17 VanessaE (shift) 09:18 adityarajbhatt Okay. So is shift used for anything else? Like running or something. 09:18 VanessaE (or E, depending on your version and/or key mappings) 09:18 VanessaE running is usually E, if 'fast' is enabled. 09:18 VanessaE shift is also used to sneak 09:18 VanessaE it's confusing at first but after a few mins it makes sense. 09:18 VanessaE I have mine mapped so that E is fast/descend, and shift is sneak 09:19 adityarajbhatt Where are all the monsters? Have not seen even one till now and its already night. 09:19 VanessaE you need a mod for that. 09:19 Wuzzy adityarajbhatt: See , this page covers pretty much every use of [Shift] 09:19 VanessaE MOBF or Simple Mobs 09:19 VanessaE those are the two that are most commonly used. 09:19 adityarajbhatt Wait, there are no ingame mobs? 09:19 VanessaE They're still considered experimental byt they'll eventually be put into the default game later. 09:19 VanessaE but* 09:20 Wuzzy Is it planned that mods become part of the core? 09:20 VanessaE (what exactly will make it into the default game remains to be seen) 09:20 VanessaE not part of the core. part of the default game, but how exactly they will be added, and what exactly will be added back, is still undetermined. 09:20 adityarajbhatt Now that _is_ a damper. 09:20 VanessaE they were in C++ at one time, but were removed because that method was too inflexible. 09:21 VanessaE mods are a standard part of minetest 09:21 adityarajbhatt Are the mods good? 09:21 VanessaE yep 09:21 adityarajbhatt Oh okay. 09:21 VanessaE there are many good mods 09:21 VanessaE and unlike MC, you don't need special loaders 09:21 VanessaE or reverse engineering 09:21 Wuzzy :-) 09:21 adityarajbhatt Yes, I have come to *hate* MC pretty much. 09:21 Wuzzy Mods are natively supported in MT :-)))))) 09:21 adityarajbhatt Their IRC channel is quite rude. 09:21 VanessaE mods are an officially-sanctioned and supported concept in Minetest 09:22 VanessaE and there is a good modding community and a decent modding API also 09:22 VanessaE yes, others have said the same. 09:22 adityarajbhatt That is what put me off mods in MC in the first place. No support from Mojang for them. Good to see things are different here. 09:22 adityarajbhatt ...no hunger! Wonderful, I am loving this more and more. 09:23 VanessaE nope, but there are a couple of mods that add it :) 09:23 Wuzzy adityarajbhatt: See also which covers many gameplay-related topics. I, amongst others, worked pretty hard on it. :-) (still incomplete though) 09:23 adityarajbhatt Hunger is just stupid for an exploration/building game. Now if you had a hunger games server it would certainly be sensible. But otherwise, I feel it just detracts from the fun and immersion. 09:24 Wuzzy ummm 09:24 Wuzzy We HAVE a hunger games server xD 09:24 adityarajbhatt That's okay. Just would have been bad for the default game if I constantly had to worry about the food clock. 09:25 Wuzzy You said the MC channel is pretty rude. How bad is it? 09:26 adityarajbhatt Well, I think it was more of a gut reaction. I mean...how do I put this...I was playing MC through an "unofficial" launcher. 09:26 adityarajbhatt I am just 16 and my parents won't cough up money for games so... 09:26 VanessaE pirate ;) 09:27 adityarajbhatt I mentioned this in passing and things got ugly. :( What can I do? My hands are tied. 09:27 adityarajbhatt I would gladly shell over money for the game if I could. 09:27 VanessaE minetest is designed from the ground up to be free. 09:27 adityarajbhatt Yes I know that. Part of the goodies. And my, the movement is so _smooth_. 09:28 Wuzzy free as in "freedom" AND as in "free beer" to be precise 09:28 VanessaE Wuzzy: yep 09:28 adityarajbhatt Oh its open source? 09:28 VanessaE yep 09:28 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest 09:29 VanessaE that's the engine. https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/ for the game content 09:29 adityarajbhatt This gets better and better. 09:29 Wuzzy Oh before I forget: Welcome to the Minetest community, adityarajbhatt! 09:30 adityarajbhatt :) Thanks. 09:30 adityarajbhatt I will have to brush up my C++ chops (not that they were any good before ;). Wonderful opportunity to add your own content to a game. 09:31 Wuzzy what do you mean with “content”? 09:32 adityarajbhatt You know stuff like mobs and all. This is the first time I am playing a game where mods are so common and accepted. 09:33 adityarajbhatt Contrast this to the studying you have to do to operate mods in MC. Anyway, glad for such a game. 09:33 Wuzzy Oh so you want to add mobs right into the engine. 09:35 VanessaE mobs won't be accepted into the engine. 09:36 VanessaE those are to remain as Lua 09:36 VanessaE but what would probably be accepted are ways to make mobs behave more smoothly, better prediction, AI, that sort of thing. 09:37 VanessaE to get a better idea of what the devs want, when you're ready, go to #minetest-dev and hang around for a while until you're comfortable in there. Make your proposals and see if you can strike up a conversation with one or more code devs 09:37 VanessaE hah, you're alreayd there :) 09:37 JamesTait My eldest son saved up his money to buy MC. He wanted to add a mod, I forget which now, and we had to jump through so many hoops, back up the entire MC directory, hack things into the .jar file and we still haven't got it working. 09:37 VanessaE as usual, I'm a step behind :P 09:38 JamesTait His comment: "I wish mods were easy to add in Minecraft like they are in Minetest." 09:39 JamesTait Oh, and not to mention adf.ly - how I've come to hate that site. 09:39 adityarajbhatt :) I feel for your son. Well, my parents will know if I spend my pocket money to buy games. I can buy all the fantasy books I want, but one mention of games and my parents are up in arms! All part of an effort not to get me _addicted_ to the computer. TOO LATE! 09:39 adityarajbhatt bit.ly is much better in my experience. 09:39 VanessaE in fact all of the default game content in Minetest is provided by a bunch of mods 09:40 VanessaE it's just that those mods come with the game :) 09:40 JamesTait It's a sound approach, IMO. 09:41 Wuzzy Actually the term “mod” is a bit misleading because the pure Minetest engine does not do anything. You need some mods to be able to play anything at all. 09:41 VanessaE right. 09:41 Wuzzy btw: I do not propose a different term. ;-) No need to worry. 09:42 Wuzzy Oh and I hate adf.ly, too. 09:43 Wuzzy This is one of the web sites which need to FUCKING DIE. :O 09:53 cy1 VanessaE: fixed item_drop ... 09:53 cy1 I'm so tired 09:54 cy1 hello Wuzzy you seem nice 09:54 Wuzzy hi 10:26 VanessaE night all. 10:28 Exio4 for mods you can use lua 10:28 Exio4 er 13:54 jemadux at minetest there's zombies on survival ? 14:10 adityarajbhatt jemadux: No, not by default. You have to install mods, google "minetest mods" and see. 14:11 jemadux adityarajbhatt: i see ... :) 14:32 * arsdragonfly 's PC fails to boot again after a two-week downtime 14:58 VanessaE CMOS battery went flat? 14:59 VanessaE (== the settings got erased/changed) 15:10 sfan5 yay, the ubuntu 13.10 update didn't break anything 15:11 sfan5 well.. except some small things 15:14 sfan5 like this... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1235785 15:21 IceCraft hi 15:22 sfan5 nice, ubuntu now shows the battery of my mouse instead of my laptop battery in the top bar 15:27 zat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2aioEom0tY 15:27 zat Has anybody seen that kind of screens available in the market? 15:31 Jordach hey IceCraft 15:31 IceCraft hi 15:34 VanessaE yes, the XO laptop has that. 15:34 VanessaE can switch between color LCD -> ePaper display 15:34 VanessaE or so I'd heard. 15:35 VanessaE or maybe it was just backlit color -> reflective b&w 15:36 zat It is actual LCD, not real eInk. 15:36 zat Well, not the kind of eInk that we knew. 15:37 zat The thing is that it is reflective and that is awesome 15:37 zat for years I have dreamed of having such a screen and I yet cannot understand how they have not become ultra popular. 15:37 zat They should be available by now on all laptops ...I think. 15:39 sfan5 yess! 15:40 VanessaE one would hope so 15:40 sfan5 wine finally fixed itself 15:40 VanessaE but the XO at least has it 15:40 VanessaE problem is such a screen is surely twice as expensive as a plain old backlict ISP LCD. 15:40 VanessaE IPS* 15:41 zat maybe or maybe not 15:46 arsdragonfly john_minetest, sometimes opening the chassis and using a hairdryer makes it work again :-P 15:50 * Jordach remembers why Jordach prefers a torrent 15:51 Jordach Oh, your computer broke connection, want to restart? Wait 1 hour. 16:09 thexyz torrent is a tool, it can't be illegal 16:10 thexyz it's like saying kitchen knives are illegal because you can kill people using them 16:10 Jordach haha 16:10 Jordach true 16:13 Jordach \o/ 16:13 Jordach dafuq 16:13 Jordach > download manager > open source > gpl v3 16:14 Jordach that's a first 16:19 Evolykane Hi 16:36 adityarajbhatt Torrents are awesome. Archlinux (a rolling-release distro) uses them for their images (over 700mb). In fact they actively encourage people to use torrent so that their own servers do not get overloaded and we all get faster downloads by helping each other (sharing p2p chunks). 16:38 us_0gb Every time I try downloading an .iso via torrent, it gets corrupted and won't install properly. I don't know why. I like the idea of torrents, but I can't seem to make them work. 16:39 sfan5 us_0gb: try a different torrent client 16:39 us_0gb What client do you guys use? 16:39 thexyz us_0gb: what's your torrent client? 16:40 us_0gb The default for many systems: Transmission. 16:40 adityarajbhatt rtorrent ftw! 16:40 adityarajbhatt It takes a little work to get it set up but after that, nothing is as fast, powerful or efficient. 16:41 adityarajbhatt There is even a channel here ##rtorrent. 16:41 thexyz transmission is fine 16:43 us_0gb rtorrent seems to be a command line application, according to its description in the package manager. THat's great for a lot of people, but I need something graphical. 16:43 thexyz I personally use Vuze 16:43 adityarajbhatt Transmission is geared towards newbies. If you want true power, you should choose rtorrent. But each to his own. 16:44 FreeFull You should always check the hash after getting a big file from the internet 16:44 thexyz inb4 lolbloat, loljava 16:44 FreeFull Real power probably doesn't matter much if you don't tend to torrent 16:44 us_0gb THe hash ... yeah, that would save me from burning bad ISOs to CDs. 16:45 thexyz your client should be able to check the hash, actually 16:45 us_0gb I don't torrent often. I tend to try the torrent for bootable ISOs, but not much else. 16:46 proller serverlist updated: http://servers.minetest.net/ 16:46 FreeFull Open source operating system ISOs are typically the only thing I will ever torrent for 16:46 FreeFull And I haven't torrented in a long, long time 16:48 adityarajbhatt FreeFull: You seem to have a bad burnout from torrents. Well, I am sorry for you, but for me torrents are the best thing ever. Best part is the more popular something gets, the more people seed it, and so the faster the download becomes. And rtorrent has automatic hashing so I need not worry about corrupted downloads. 16:48 adityarajbhatt Of course the whole concept only works if you are good enough to seed yourself rather than being a leech. I always seed my torrents. 16:49 sfan5 proller: 'Now players' why didn't anybody complain about that? 16:49 FreeFull Bad burnout? 16:49 us_0gb I always seed at least 200% of what I took, but then I shut down Transmission. 16:50 us_0gb FreeFull, I think adityarajbhatt meant me with the bad burnout comment. 16:50 proller sfan5, oops.. 16:50 adityarajbhatt Oh no it was FreeFull. He said "...are typically the only thing I will _ever_ torrent for" I assumed he must have had a bad experience. 16:51 FreeFull I just don't have any reason to torrent otherwise 16:51 us_0gb Ah. THat's all I torrent for as well, but it's just that most things I download don't offer a torrent option. 16:51 cac Hi, I'm running Minetest on my netbook, which runs OpenBSD, and am getting a very strange issue. 16:52 adityarajbhatt cac: Elaborate? 16:52 zsoltisawesome precisely 16:52 thexyz I've got 8.979 TB uploaded, am I cool? 16:52 cac I get normal fps, when every couple seconds, it pauses completely for just a second and then goes back to normal. 16:52 zsoltisawesome WHAT? where? 16:52 zsoltisawesome hmm 16:52 zsoltisawesome odd 16:52 cac I have verified it's not a driver issue. I've run it on my desktop(which uses a radeon) as well as my netbook(which uses intel integrated). 16:53 us_0gb cac, I have that issue as well sometimes. I don't know why. 16:53 cac Other games(like supertuxkart and openarena) run fine 16:53 zsoltisawesome It used to do that to me too 16:53 us_0gb It typically happens for me when I have very low FPS. 16:53 zsoltisawesome its just has to get used to the computer, it might not like the ram 16:54 zsoltisawesome YAY! 16:54 FreeFull Sounds like some sort of world update or garbage collection to me 16:54 zsoltisawesome maybe 16:54 zsoltisawesome just let it generate the world for a while, and see if that makes a different 16:54 us_0gb The screens is moving along smoothly, than it will pause for a second or two. 16:54 cac Version is 0.4.7. 16:54 zsoltisawesome *difference 16:54 cac OpenBSD version is 5.4-current. 16:55 FreeFull I think it's just some problem in minetest itself 16:55 zsoltisawesome sound like a thing with generation 16:55 zsoltisawesome me too 16:55 cac or irrlicht. 16:55 FreeFull Could be irrlicht too 16:55 stormchaser3000 hi 16:55 zsoltisawesome maybe 16:55 cac I wish I knew some more irrlicht games that were in ports. 16:55 zsoltisawesome Hi 16:55 FreeFull Not OpenBSD specific though 16:56 us_0gb I've had that problem without OpenBSD, so it's definitely not a problem with that. 16:56 stormchaser3000 who want's a windows build of minetest classic 16:56 cac apparently, if other are having the same issue 16:56 zsoltisawesome i do 16:56 stormchaser3000 i will compile in a while 16:56 zsoltisawesome ok cool 16:56 zsoltisawesome where did you get the code? 16:56 FreeFull Any time someone mentions minetest classic, I start missing c55's server again ): 16:56 stormchaser3000 i mean the next branch 16:57 us_0gb I've been meaning to try Minetest Classic, but haven't found the time. 16:57 stormchaser3000 no i mean dark roses code of minetest 0.3.1 not jrojachs (i forgot how to spell his username) 16:57 sfan5 wee... stdarg.h is missing 16:57 stormchaser3000 here 0gb what linux do you use 16:57 FreeFull stdarg.h is a POSIX header 16:57 stormchaser3000 i can open vm 16:57 zsoltisawesome ah, i remember Minetest 0.3.1 16:57 stormchaser3000 and compile 16:57 us_0gb I use Trisquel. 16:58 stormchaser3000 ok 16:58 stormchaser3000 when i get fast internet i will start a vm 16:58 us_0gb No need, it's the time to play that I lack, but thanks for the offer. 16:58 stormchaser3000 and compile 16:58 zsoltisawesome I use OpenSUSE derivative 16:58 us_0gb I can compile while I sleep. 16:58 zsoltisawesome lol 16:58 sfan5 FreeFull: the ubuntu 13.10 update apparently removed it 16:58 zsoltisawesome thats what i will use the server for! 16:58 stormchaser3000 ok so zso 16:59 stormchaser3000 i will compile oncee visual studio installs 16:59 zsoltisawesome and im using Windows atm 16:59 zsoltisawesome so just complie for windows 16:59 stormchaser3000 and i re-install cmake 16:59 zsoltisawesome ok 16:59 stormchaser3000 then i can compile 16:59 stormchaser3000 i looked it up on youtube 17:00 stormchaser3000 and i found it 17:00 stormchaser3000 it is easy to use visual studiio 17:00 us_0gb I really should learn how to cross-compile to Windows .... It wouldn't be useful to me, but it would be useful for helping other people. 17:01 zsoltisawesome i hear its difficult 17:01 stormchaser3000 i used menche's windows cross compile 17:01 stormchaser3000 it was broken 17:01 stormchaser3000 but here i can give a donload link for you zso 17:02 stormchaser3000 menche crss-compiled minetest-classic for windows 17:02 stormchaser3000 the menu is broken but it is playable 17:02 proller but numbers works! 17:03 proller and server client list 17:04 stormchaser3000 http://menche.us/files/minetest-1310.00-win32.zip 17:04 stormchaser3000 zso click that link 17:04 zsoltisawesome ok 17:05 stormchaser3000 you can go to multi player on it but singleplayer works 17:05 stormchaser3000 tthat is the next branch of minetest classic 17:05 stormchaser3000 that menche cross compiles 17:09 zsoltisawesome why does multiplayer not workk? 17:10 Jordach holy shit 17:10 Jordach holy shit 17:10 Jordach you can use [img] tags on .svg 17:10 us_0gb What is .svg? 17:11 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=114748#p114748 17:11 Jordach us_0gb, scalable vector graphics 17:11 stormchaser3000 it crashes every time you try to click on the multiplayer tab 17:11 stormchaser3000 but you can use singleplayer 17:11 us_0gb Jordach, nice! I didn't think forums allowed that. 17:12 Jordach us_0gb, now only if blender rendered in svg 17:12 Jordach i wouldnt have to make 1080p 17:12 stormchaser3000 hey jrodach i ama going to try to compile your minetest-classic and darkrose's 17:12 zsoltisawesome the one you gave me the tab works ine 17:12 zsoltisawesome *fine 17:12 Jordach stormchaser3000, no need 17:12 Jordach darkrose continued where i left off 17:13 stormchaser3000 oh ok 17:13 stormchaser3000 i want to try tours though 17:13 stormchaser3000 it looks interesting 17:13 stormchaser3000 of minetst 0.2 instead of 0.3 17:14 stormchaser3000 mabie manche updated i 17:21 Jordach darkrose is looking for textures to replace minetest-classic's current ones 17:21 * Jordach is working on it 17:23 stormchaser3000 use minetest 0.3.1 win32 build textures 17:23 Jordach he wants new textures 17:23 stormchaser3000 oh 17:23 stormchaser3000 so minetest 0.4.7 textures 17:24 stormchaser3000 i hav started working on a minetest 0.4.7 for 0.3.1 tp 17:24 stormchaser3000 i can make it minetest0.4.7 for classic 17:24 stormchaser3000 textures 17:24 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/VFXRsQD.png 17:25 Jordach new apple 17:26 Jordach and as always, sam II goes in 17:26 stormchaser3000 lol 17:41 proller current players: - better? 17:42 stormchaser3000 oh hi proller 17:42 proller hi 17:43 stormchaser3000 nice build of minetest 17:44 stormchaser3000 i got sfan5's build of your fork 17:44 stormchaser3000 it was awesome 17:44 stormchaser3000 but it lacks compatibility of non basic servers 17:44 stormchaser3000 :( 17:49 proller where? 17:49 proller must be fully compatible 17:49 stormchaser3000 on vanessaE's server 17:49 stormchaser3000 um 17:49 stormchaser3000 and a few others 17:49 VanessaE what's not compatible? 17:49 stormchaser3000 i will look again 17:50 VanessaE any of sfan5's recent builds should work fine. 17:50 VanessaE the problem is that horrible fps slowdown problem 17:50 stormchaser3000 prollers fork of minetest (just has a lot of merge requests) 17:50 VanessaE may be related to player models, which I have noticed animate REALLY SLOWLY now 17:50 VanessaE (as if everyone's sneaking 17:50 VanessaE ) 17:50 stormchaser3000 yeah i noticed that to 17:50 VanessaE on my server or everywhere?> 17:50 us_0gb Hmm. Might be time to go back to flat players for a while. 17:51 Dan_D Is there any way of making Simplemobs 2d? ANd what mobs were in 0.3.1? 17:51 VanessaE 0.3.1 had dungeon masters, oerkkis, and rats 17:51 VanessaE and no 17:51 Dan_D Just them?Ok 17:51 VanessaE use MOBF for that. 17:51 Dan_D Why? 17:52 VanessaE because it natively supports 2d mode. 17:52 Dan_D And are the rats in mobf placeable? 17:52 VanessaE dik 17:52 VanessaE idk 17:52 Dan_D ie, do they use default rat item? 17:52 Dan_D sapier 17:53 Dan_D sapier1 17:54 Dan_D Can they permanently be made 2d? I am re-stoking Minetest Nostalgia,and I want to add the 0.3.1 mods, 2d of course 17:54 stormchaser3000 actualy use the legacy mod 17:54 stormchaser3000 it is in minetest game 17:55 stormchaser3000 just put in conf 17:55 Dan_D I thought that just added aliases 17:55 us_0gb It does. And adds the items, but it does NOT add the mobs. 17:55 Dan_D Exactly 17:55 zsoltisawesome UHG 17:55 Dan_D I want the 2d mobs 17:56 Dan_D A light-weight version with 2d mobs 17:56 stormchaser3000 only_peaceful_mobs = false 17:57 stormchaser3000 it works 17:57 kaeza "lightweight" and "mobs" don't fit in the same sentence sadly :( 17:57 stormchaser3000 not only adding alieses 17:57 Dan_D stormchaser, thaht won't add the mobs though 17:57 Dan_D That just disables bad mobs from Simplemobs 17:57 us_0gb I've read the code in legacy/init.lua. Id doesn't add any mobs. 17:57 stormchaser3000 just add in the conf file:only_peaceful_mobs = true 17:57 Dan_D That won't add the mobs 17:57 stormchaser3000 only_peaceful_mobs = true 17:57 stormchaser3000 i know 17:57 Dan_D And I want the oerkii etc 17:58 Dan_D Just 2d 17:58 stormchaser3000 but try it i had one person do that and they found a dungeon master on there new map 17:58 Dan_D No they didn't 17:58 stormchaser3000 on minetest 0.4.7 17:58 us_0gb They were using a plugin then. 17:58 stormchaser3000 yes they did 17:58 Dan_D That DISABLES all bad mobs from Simplemobs 17:58 Dan_D So I don't believe you 17:59 stormchaser3000 here use this old version of th elegacy mod 17:59 Dan_D No. 17:59 Dan_D There is no mob code in the legacy mod 17:59 stormchaser3000 there is 17:59 Jordach i've made some nice 1800's style bricks: http://i.imgur.com/cK9bFIe.png 17:59 Dan_D NO THERE IS NOT! 17:59 stormchaser3000 there used to be in erlier versions of minetest 17:59 stormchaser3000 proof picture time 17:59 Dan_D Minetest 0.4.7-dev is not an earlier version 17:59 zsoltisawesome there is no longer mob code in legacy 17:59 * stormchaser3000 get's out screen recoreder 18:00 Dan_D Exactly 18:00 zsoltisawesome bricks 18:00 us_0gb Jordach, nice! 18:00 zsoltisawesome lol 18:00 Jordach oh god im laughing my tits off at some spammer in 18:00 Jordach freenode 18:00 zsoltisawesome maybe tone the brightness down a tad? 18:00 zsoltisawesome XD 18:00 VanessaE there hasn't been any significant mob-related code in Minetest since 0.4 came out 18:01 Jordach zsoltisawesome, my fireplace has orange bricks 18:01 Jordach back then bricks we're not a darkish red 18:01 us_0gb My server went down again, it appears ... But this time I have the loop command, so "loop startminetest" should keep it up. 18:01 zsoltisawesome i would have made them dark brown 18:02 stormchaser3000 but there used to be 18:02 Jordach us_0gb, use while True do ./minetestserver --shit here then 18:02 stormchaser3000 there was mob code 18:02 Dan_D Not now 18:02 VanessaE while true; do minetestserver; sleep 5; done 18:02 Jordach Menche, thanks for the windows build 18:02 stormchaser3000 i know so here in a sec 18:02 VanessaE that's the proper way to do it. 18:02 Jordach VanessaE, i used that as well 18:03 Menche did the newewr windows build actually work? 18:03 Jordach YES 18:03 Jordach it works for me 18:03 us_0gb Jordach, that's basically what "loop startminetest" does, but startminetest also backs up the world data. 18:03 zsoltisawesome it works for me too 18:06 zat ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: ...t/bin/../games/minetest_game/mods/default/player.lua:125: attempt to index local 'anim' (a nil value) 18:06 zat wat 18:07 VanessaE zat: that happens on my server too. 18:07 us_0gb My server STILL isn't on the list .... maybe it wasn't down then. 18:07 zat Any guess VanessaE¡ 18:07 zat ? 18:08 stormchaser3000 nvm 18:08 kaeza the player code could use an overhaul 18:08 VanessaE no idea why it does it, but see #minetest-dev log for today 18:08 kaeza it's way overcomplicated IMHO (sorry Taoki) 18:09 zat uh 18:10 VanessaE I've reported this twice at least. first time resulted in a possible fix but I was never able to confirm the fix worked. that fix has since fallen out of my local repo for whatever reason, but it may still work if re-applied. 18:18 cy1 zat: Be sure to update to the latest minetest_game. Mine doesn't have 'anim' on line 125 in player.lua 18:18 cy1 VanessaE: 18:19 cy1 "index ... (a nil value)" is usually as simple as saying if anim ~= nil then ... end around it 18:19 VanessaE mine has? 18:19 VanessaE pl:set_animation({x=anim.stand_START, y=anim.stand_END}, animation_speed_mod, animation_blend) 18:20 VanessaE I show my copy being up-to-date. 18:20 cy1 uh, hold on... I might be on a personal branch 18:20 cy1 Oh no I was 18:21 cy1 I was looking at line 123 by mistake 18:22 cy1 yeah I see the problem 18:22 cy1 player_get_animations returns nil if the model is anything besides "character.x" 18:23 kaeza the issue is that there's no way to disable player anim code 18:23 kaeza and there's no public API to change it either 18:24 cy1 No the issue is that none of the other .x models have animations. 18:24 VanessaE cy1: any of these look like player models, by any chance? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6258947/ 18:24 cy1 But that's an issue too, yes. 18:24 VanessaE (other than line 18) 18:24 cy1 VanessaE: line 18 is probably the culprit. Or rather, the completely reasonable action which exposes the bug in default/player.lua 18:25 VanessaE cy1: thats just my mod archive 18:25 VanessaE that's not what's actually on the server 18:25 cy1 oh, hm 18:25 VanessaE lemme get that list. 18:25 VanessaE http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6258961/ 18:26 VanessaE that's what's actually there 18:26 cy1 I assume a different player model would be a different sort of mesh, like a pony. 18:26 VanessaE though I don't think wield3d_character.x is actually *used* by any of the code. 18:27 cy1 Eh I'll try to get something that yields a more responsive error... 18:27 VanessaE hm 18:27 VanessaE wield3d DOES use that model by name, 18:28 VanessaE however, the slow animation happens without it, so that's not related. 18:29 us_0gb OH! I know why my server isn't on the list. It's my recent DNS change. I forgot about the server when I made it. 18:29 VanessaE I wonder if that camp_soldier.x is related. 18:29 VanessaE camo* 18:30 Jordach it's just a gay soldier 18:30 Jordach move along 18:37 thefamilygrog66 my server is now running git, so I don't drown while climbing ladders anymore. o_O 18:38 thefamilygrog66 or climbing beanstalks, or standing in doorways, etc. 18:38 VanessaE https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4274715858916&set=vb.1016788026&type=2&theater 18:38 cy1 haha that was a fun bug thefamilygrog66 18:39 VanessaE oh no, please tell me they don't really walk among us! I thought this ^^^^ was always just an urban legend. 18:39 thefamilygrog66 so weird 18:39 us_0gb What cased that? Why would drowning be defined for those nodes? 18:40 Jordach VanessaE, can you in a nutshell that for me 18:40 us_0gb VanessaE, who are "they"? (I can't play the video.) 18:40 cy1 us_0gb: clearly some vengeful soul who thought they could enable minecraft griefing via sand smothering. 18:40 VanessaE Jordach: woman calls radio station complaining that deer are crossing the highways at "Deer Crossing" signs...as if the signs are attracting them to cross *there* 18:40 VanessaE this is a recording of that call 18:40 Jordach LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL 18:41 Jordach 'murican stupidity at it's best 18:43 thexyz ShadowNinja: http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Xyz/test 18:44 thefamilygrog66 hilarious call. "they should move the signs somewhere where there's less traffic activity" 18:48 thefamilygrog66 hah, a fan video of one of my songs I recorded 23 years ago has nearly 300,000 views. crazy kids with their youtubes and tumblrs... 18:48 thexyz what's the song? 18:48 thexyz link pls 18:48 cy1 'k 18:48 thefamilygrog66 sure, one sec 18:49 thefamilygrog66 http://youtu.be/JPlpsuEGj90 18:49 thefamilygrog66 '60s punk type stuff 18:49 VanessaE >thefamily* >punk 18:49 VanessaE non-sequitur! 18:49 VanessaE error! error! 18:49 thefamilygrog66 I recorded it in my bedroom on a cassette 4-track (and added the drums in the attic) 18:50 thefamilygrog66 what do you mean by non-sequitur? 18:50 VanessaE non-sequitur, "does not follow" 18:51 thefamilygrog66 what, punk following family? 18:51 VanessaE punk rocker != family man :) 18:51 thefamilygrog66 nice generalization, V! 18:51 VanessaE I was kidding :) 18:51 thefamilygrog66 haha 18:51 thefamilygrog66 damn liberals 18:51 thefamilygrog66 :) 18:51 Jordach zing 18:51 VanessaE damn right 18:52 VanessaE bleeding heart and proud of it. 18:52 cy1 VanessaE: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/207 when that gets pulled the thing should work. 18:52 thefamilygrog66 well, liberal in the US is still right of centre up here ;) 18:52 cy1 weild3d I mean 18:52 * Jordach tried to open the 3DS screen: was wrong way round to lift lid 18:52 cy1 wield 18:53 VanessaE thefamilygrog66: oh trust me, one can't get any further left-of-center than me :) 18:53 thefamilygrog66 haha 18:53 thefamilygrog66 thinking of getting a 2DS 18:54 Jordach NUUUU 18:54 Jordach > 2DS 18:54 Jordach > You can disable the 3D in the system settings 18:54 thefamilygrog66 Simonster was so heartbroken when flipnote hamachi (sp?) shutdown on his DSi 18:55 Jordach 11.5GB 18:55 Jordach use a fucking decimal 18:55 VanessaE Im a bleeding-heart, socialist, queer-loving Jew bitch :) 18:55 VanessaE from Kansas yet. 18:55 Jordach if it was Ohio i'd have died 18:55 us_0gb Jordach, some contries use commas instead. 18:55 cy1 zat: too 18:55 thefamilygrog66 some mod makers use 64px textures too, but don't mention that 18:56 thefamilygrog66 bahaha 18:56 cy1 wut 18:56 * Jordach starts growling 18:56 cy1 hamachi VPN works on the... Nintendo DS?? 18:56 Jordach GO FUCK 64PX 18:56 thefamilygrog66 no, not hamachi, something similar 18:56 Jordach thefamilygrog66, flipnote studio 18:56 Jordach my girlfriends DSi still has that and it works 18:57 thefamilygrog66 yeah, but there's an online flipnote sharing dealio that's shutdown 18:57 cy1 Jordach: it's over 9.000. :p 18:57 thefamilygrog66 flipnote hatena, that's it 18:57 thefamilygrog66 haha, hamachi 18:57 Jordach oh for fuck sakes nintendo 18:58 Jordach Buying something in a game: Take my money! 18:58 Jordach i wonder where they got that idea 18:58 thefamilygrog66 they announced that it would be replaced with a 3D hatena (for 3DS only), but that only works in Japan apparently 18:58 * Jordach sits there with a 3DS whisling 18:58 Jordach fun fact: the 3d effect doesn't harm younger children 18:59 thefamilygrog66 that's bs, Jordach 18:59 Jordach (if you need to try it; make them stand ~12 inches away froma crt for an hour) 18:59 Jordach their eyes will mess up but restore themselves 18:59 Jordach that;s why i can look at any monitor for indefinite periods 18:59 thefamilygrog66 it gives me a bloody headache 18:59 thefamilygrog66 the 3D, that is 19:00 thefamilygrog66 also the 2DS is only $130CDN 19:00 Jordach just don't slide the slider up (that's what i do, but the 3d effect drains the battery) 19:00 thefamilygrog66 and no hinges 19:00 thefamilygrog66 I have a PSP Go anyway 19:00 NekoGloop Jordach, friend codeses? :D 19:00 Jordach NekoGloop, sure 19:00 Jordach pm me 19:00 thefamilygrog66 Simonster has the DSi 19:00 Jordach thefamilygrog66, http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18yg0l9m0l3tdpng/original.png 19:01 thefamilygrog66 nice 19:01 * thefamilygrog66 kinda misses chopping wood 19:01 Jordach or even http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18yg2jyvqe0g7jpg/original.jpg 19:01 thefamilygrog66 but not in my pyjamas in the middle of February 19:02 thefamilygrog66 Cool that it's actually only one screen 19:13 zsoltisawesome YAY 19:13 Jordach wut 19:13 zsoltisawesome 20 more minutes till i finially get CDOS 19:14 Jordach 1 mins until i get what i wanted 19:14 Jordach 54 seconds cmon 19:14 kaeza ^ pr0n 19:14 zsoltisawesome lol 19:15 stormchaser3000 hey zso 19:15 zsoltisawesome ya? 19:15 stormchaser3000 on minetest-classic 19:15 stormchaser3000 go to menche.us port 30000 19:15 zsoltisawesome ok 19:15 zsoltisawesome i'll try 19:18 Jordach kaeza, i've been waiting for an iso to finish 19:18 Jordach i happen to use virtualbox 19:22 Jordach might try arch in it 19:25 ShadowNinja thexyz: ? 19:26 thexyz lua thingy 19:27 thexyz ShadowNinja: didn't you ask for this? 19:27 thexyz http://wiki.minetest.net/Module:Test 19:27 ShadowNinja thexyz: Ah, yes. 19:28 Jordach if i happen to like arch i might use it 19:29 thexyz aren't you happy? :( 19:29 zsoltisawesome hey guys! 19:30 zsoltisawesome http://susestudio.com/a/L3XWbL/compact-disc-operating-system 19:30 Calinou harsh 19:31 Jordach lol suse 19:31 Jordach more like sues 19:31 zsoltisawesome ??? 19:34 us_0gb zsoltisawesome, Jordach means the good doctor. 19:35 zsoltisawesome still lost 19:35 us_0gb Doctor Sues. 19:36 ShadowNinja thexyz: Yes, thanks. :-) I am rewriting some templates now. 19:36 zsoltisawesome lol 19:37 zsoltisawesome OMG 20 seconds 19:37 zsoltisawesome 5 19:37 zsoltisawesome 4 19:37 zsoltisawesome 3 19:37 zsoltisawesome 2 19:37 zsoltisawesome 1 19:37 Calinou this isn't twitter by the way :P 19:37 zsoltisawesome YAY 19:37 Calinou lol 19:37 Menche yay! 19:37 thomasfuston lol 19:37 Calinou ShadowBot doesn't like happy people 19:37 * Menche was waiting for that 19:37 zsoltisawesome oy 19:37 Menche ShadowBot doesn't like you. 19:38 thomasfuston only ShadowBot? o.O 19:38 zsoltisawesome i wanna Bill the Gates 19:38 zsoltisawesome XD 19:40 zsoltisawesome NO! 19:43 * Jordach_ pets NekoGloop 19:53 * NekoGloop purrs 19:54 * zsoltisawesome rolls his eyes 19:58 * Calinou pets Rainbow Dash with zsoltisawesome 19:58 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Masterserver totals fix 382357d61c 2013-10-18T12:57:22-07:00 http://git.io/8cq-aw 19:58 zsoltisawesome what? 19:58 zsoltisawesome oh lol 20:00 * zsoltisawesome gets very offended 20:00 Jordach_ Findus Horse Lasange: RAINBOW DASH FLAVOUR 20:00 * Jordach_ runs 20:01 * zsoltisawesome starts to watch a video 20:01 pitriss Jordach_: omnomnom 20:01 * zsoltisawesome punches Jordach_ 20:01 Jordach_ !op 20:02 Jordach_ i can /kick your ass 20:02 zsoltisawesome lol 20:02 * zsoltisawesome becomes depressed 20:03 * zsoltisawesome dies of hunger 20:04 * pitriss thinks thar zsoltisawesome should stop spamming here.. 20:04 * zsoltisawesome thinks that this channel never says much 20:04 * zsoltisawesome wanted to change that 20:05 zsoltisawesome lollip!op 20:05 zsoltisawesome LOL 20:06 ShadowNinja zsoltisawesome: That's enough. 20:06 zsoltisawesome ok 20:07 zsoltisawesome Hi evergreen! 20:07 Jordach_ hello Evergreen 20:07 Evergreen Hello 20:07 ShadowNinja thexyz: Any idea why this throws a Script error wnen trying to invoke it (Only tested the preview) http://wiki.minetest.net/Module:Hearts 20:08 ShadowNinja thexyz: Calling it from the console (=p.hearts(2.5)) works. 20:14 Jordach_ today's best post: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=114778#p114778 20:15 Calinou hahaha 20:16 Jordach_ fun fact: me and paramat live roughly ~16 miles away from each other 20:16 Evergreen Cool\ 20:17 Jordach_ he's nearer to the coast than me though 20:17 Jordach_ im inland 20:19 ShadowNinja thexyz: Is it possible to grant specific rights to users without changing their group on the wiki? 20:19 Jordach_ ShadowNinja, mediawiki isnt minetest 20:20 zsoltisawesome Jordach_: lets not start an argument 20:20 Jordach_ o rly 20:21 Jordach_ sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html 20:21 Jordach_ http://sfan5.duckdns.org/ircstats/minetest.html 20:21 Jordach_ ^ better 20:22 Calinou noone near me plays Minetest 20:22 * Jordach_ pets Calinou 20:23 Calinou don't know where Zeg9 lives :p 20:23 Calinou and cisoun is in switzerland 20:23 Jordach Calinou, afaik, you're near northern france right 20:24 Jordach i might be the closest minetest player to Calinou 20:24 Calinou yep, north east 20:24 ShadowNinja You beat Peacock? 20:25 Calinou Jordach: no, cisoun is probably closer, or maybe Zeg9 20:25 Calinou or redcrab 20:25 Calinou (if he ever comes back :p) 20:25 ShadowNinja Jordach: What floodbot did you use? 20:25 ShadowNinja ;-) 20:26 ShadowNinja You're actually ahead of Vanessa in some hours. 20:27 Jordach ShadowNinja, multiple lines because my typing sucks 20:27 Jordach trust me 20:27 Jordach how do i even beat VanessaE? honest. 20:27 ShadowNinja Jordach: I cann't typ tday 20:27 Evolykane Bye 20:28 VanessaE ? 20:28 Jordach that's like getting into an eating contest with VanessaE 20:28 Jordach im going to lose 20:28 ShadowNinja *can't type today 20:28 * VanessaE frowns :( 20:28 Jordach VanessaE, i can bearly fucking eat 20:28 Jordach (i dont have a large stomach) 20:28 Jordach Calinou, http://i.imgur.com/jQRRfZl.jpg 20:29 thefamilygrog66 Europe is so tiny. 20:29 zsoltisawesome yes 20:29 ShadowNinja How.....? Jordach: 1341 actions! 20:29 * Jordach is awesome 20:29 Jordach please accept that 20:29 Jordach 1342 20:29 thefamilygrog66 It take three days just to drive across Ontario... 20:30 ShadowNinja Hah. 20:30 VanessaE would someone please audit my game and help me find wtf is killing everyone's performance? 20:30 VanessaE I'm ready to give up on it. 20:30 ShadowNinja I thought ShadowBot would start appearing in those kick stats by now... 20:30 Jordach ShadowNinja, we redacted ShadowBot on purpose 20:30 thefamilygrog66 how does one audit, V? 20:31 ShadowNinja Jordach: :-( 20:31 VanessaE thefamilygrog66: go through the various mods' code, looking for problems 20:31 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Does technic_game show those issues? 20:31 Jordach VanessaE, too much bloat. try minetest-classic 20:31 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/VanessaE_Game.tar.bz2 20:31 VanessaE Jordach: minetest-nostalgia is fast as hell (I have a third server I just opened) 20:31 VanessaE ShadowNinja: I have not tried it, but see there ^^ 20:32 Jordach VanessaE, no where as fast as minetest-classic 0.3.3 20:32 ShadowNinja ^ How to use up all of your bandwidth for the next ten minutes. 20:32 Calinou http://i.imgur.com/8VKRIIq.jpg 20:32 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Do you skip *.git* when making the archive? 20:32 Calinou I'm approximately at the red dot 20:33 Calinou VanessaE: .tar.xz > .tar.bz2 :p 20:33 VanessaE ShadowNinja: yes 20:33 VanessaE ShadowNinja: and "backups", as tar defines them 20:34 VanessaE want the game with those things included? 20:34 ShadowNinja .tar.gz.bz2.xz.zip <-- That ought to compress it. ;-) 20:34 Calinou don't forget .rar to keep trisquel users away 20:34 Jordach Calinou, how did my arrow point at your dot 20:34 Jordach that's fucking suspicious 20:35 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Nah, I'l just git clone if I want it, but I am NOT combing through 30MB of code. 20:35 Calinou heh 20:35 VanessaE ShadowNinja: it's ok, I didn't think you'd want to (who would?) 20:35 thefamilygrog66 I'm gonna guess it's moretrees. 20:35 VanessaE thefamilygrog66: this is a fps problem, not mapgen lag 20:36 Calinou IIRC it's slow even with fancy trees disabled 20:36 ShadowNinja VanessaE: rm mods until you find the misbehaving one. (That's how I found that mesecons liked eating 100% CPU) 20:36 thefamilygrog66 Oh, I've noticed major fps issues with those angled roof corners. Does that make sense? 20:36 fairiestoy Shadow, what exactly triggers this impact? 20:36 VanessaE it's slow even if you're standing on top of a tall tree and nothing else below you is visible besides the rest of the tre 20:37 VanessaE +e 20:37 ShadowNinja fairiestoy: IDK, I have re-added most of mesecons to my server and it hasn't happened again recently. 20:37 fairiestoy ShadowNinja: Alright, thanks though 20:41 thefamilygrog66 VanessaE, I can have killer fps, but as soon as I look at the roof of my spawn, it drops to like 5 fps: http://i.imgur.com/uurG91F.png 20:42 VanessaE thefamilygrog66: I updated those ages ago to tone down the detail 20:42 VanessaE they're only 16 steps now instead of like 256 20:43 zsoltisawesome http://stephaneginier.com/sculptgl/ 20:43 thefamilygrog66 you mean I gotta download a new version of homedecor? 20:43 zsoltisawesome yes 20:47 ShadowNinja VanessaE: LOL, 256? I would like to see what you could do with 1024 or so. 20:47 VanessaE ShadowNinja: beyond 256, rendering errors 20:47 VanessaE thefamilygrog66: homedecor has been updated a lot lately. 20:48 VanessaE I recommend you git pull 20:49 VanessaE kaeza did some nice work on the signs 20:49 VanessaE sharper fonts, more text per sign - 10000% easier to read 20:54 cisoun Calinou: what's your city ? 20:54 cisoun (just to know the distance from me) 20:56 Calinou near troyes 20:56 Calinou hi cisoun btw :) long time no see 20:57 cisoun o/ 20:58 cisoun There are about 290 km between us. 20:58 cisoun Close enough ? 20:58 cisoun Yeah I'm not really into minetest these days. Tons of work and my graphic driver is shitty since Linux 3.9... 20:59 cisoun (Nouveau was really good but doesn't work for me since Linux 3.9 and Minetest crashes with Nvidia.) 20:59 VanessaE nice to see you in here again, cisoun 20:59 cisoun Hey ! 21:08 zsoltisawesome this is a really dull test, i keep answering "yes, yes, yes, yes" and so on 21:10 * zsoltisawesome thinks about making a clickbot 21:11 Calinou cisoun: that's weird (the driver) 21:11 Calinou I guess I'll upgrade (or reinstall) 13.10 soonish... 21:11 Calinou waiting a few days for less loaded servers + obvious bugfix 21:11 Calinou clickbot? 21:11 Calinou don't reinvent the wheel, there is a large choice of software that clicks for you :) 21:12 thefamilygrog66 you need one of these, zsoltisawesome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_bird 21:12 zsoltisawesome why? 21:13 zsoltisawesome oh lol 21:13 zsoltisawesome to click the mouse 21:13 kaeza "xdotool -r 100000 -d 10 click 1" and watch your CPU melt :3 21:13 Calinou heh, I always used --repeat and --dleay 21:13 zsoltisawesome sadly Windows isn't Unix-based 21:15 thefamilygrog66 This is the only clip I could find, zsoltisawesome: http://youtu.be/8OkKhkJiJyo 21:16 zsoltisawesome lol 21:16 zsoltisawesome funny 21:26 zsoltisawesome i found something better: https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=d02772c5ef189116&id=D02772C5EF189116!140 21:28 thefamilygrog66 haha, you can tell my six-year-old picked out the artwork for my server: http://i.imgur.com/ArL8Vg3.png 21:28 VanessaE heh 21:29 VanessaE ok angry birds, yoshi, and...what? 21:29 zsoltisawesome peashooter (plants vs zombies) 21:29 VanessaE ah 21:29 VanessaE never heard of it 21:29 thefamilygrog66 ^^^ 21:29 thefamilygrog66 you've never heard of plants vs zombies?! 21:29 zsoltisawesome its not much to hear of 21:30 * thefamilygrog66 must take a nap now 21:31 * zsoltisawesome must pour a bucket of ice water over thefamilygrog66's head 21:33 * zsoltisawesome doesn't take naps, he thinks they are for infants and elderly people 21:33 zsoltisawesome lol 21:35 zsoltisawesome has anyone else tried Madbox Linux? 21:37 zsoltisawesome :| 21:37 zsoltisawesome what are you doing here? 21:37 rainbow_dash_ I'm bored 21:40 VanessaE so play a game? 21:40 rainbow_dash_ Like what? 21:40 zsoltisawesome like the game that this channel is about... 21:40 Menche there's this game called Minetest 21:41 rainbow_dash_ Oh really, your kidding? 21:41 Menche it seems that many on this channel have heard about it 21:41 rainbow_dash_ Really? 21:41 zsoltisawesome dude 21:41 VanessaE Dan, at the next restart of nostalgia, your forum post will be linked in to the aerver list 21:41 zsoltisawesome stop with the harsh sarcasm 21:41 VanessaE server* 21:41 rainbow_dash_ ... 21:42 zsoltisawesome do you want me to take your phone? 21:42 rainbow_dash_ You can't do that! 21:43 zsoltisawesome umm, i can walk into your room and grab it from you 21:43 rainbow_dash_ I won't let you! 21:44 zsoltisawesome just, just leave 21:44 rainbow_dash_ FINE!!! 21:45 zsoltisawesome sorry about that 21:46 Evergreen Who was that? lol 21:48 zsoltisawesome my brother 21:48 zsoltisawesome he wont let me irc in peace 21:59 zsoltisawesome YAY 21:59 zsoltisawesome finally 22:00 * zsoltisawesome slaps ChanServ around a bit with a large trout 22:00 * zsoltisawesome slaps MinetestBot around a bit with a large trout 22:00 * zsoltisawesome slaps ShadowBot around a bit with a large trout 22:00 * Menche thinks you should say more messages in quick succession 22:01 Menche (if you want to annoy ShadowBot 22:01 zsoltisawesome i was trying to aviod getting kicked agian 22:01 Menche ) 22:01 zsoltisawesome !seen zsoltisawesome 22:01 MinetestBot zsoltisawesome: zsoltisawesome was last seen at 2013-10-18 22:01:15 UTC on #minetest 22:01 zsoltisawesome !seen harnetadmin 22:01 MinetestBot zsoltisawesome: Sorry, I haven't seen harnetadmin around. 22:02 zsoltisawesome !seen harpnetadmin 22:02 MinetestBot zsoltisawesome: harpnetadmin was last seen at 2013-10-16 21:01:18 UTC on #minetest 22:05 fairiestoy Is that counting as harrassment? 22:05 VanessaE no, just flooding. 22:05 fairiestoy hell, worth to ask 22:06 zsoltisawesome im bored 22:07 fairiestoy Play minetest 22:10 kaeza why the +q ? 22:10 kaeza who flooded this time? :P 22:22 Dan_D Help, with my mt_nostalgia game mese picks can't be crafted, even though the recipe is right 22:24 ShadowNinja Dan_D: Code. 22:24 Dan_D Look on Github 22:27 VanessaE https://github.com/DanDuncombe/mt_nostalgia 22:27 VanessaE ^^^^ dan's code. 22:30 VanessaE I've browsed through it and can't see the issue 22:31 VanessaE wait, wtf. 22:31 VanessaE my local copy doesn't match 22:31 VanessaE dan this might me my fauly. 22:31 Dan_D Aha. 22:31 VanessaE fault*( 22:31 Dan_D Ok 22:33 * Menche curses 'singleplayer's arbitrarily limited privs 23:30 Peacock how do i lsystem this tree? (the weird Y shaped one) http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_nQaKjURiO_A/TA2OSb1pjSI/AAAAAAAAAKc/uhR3RjQVprw/s1600/earth_carboniferous_riverbank_600.jpg 23:31 VanessaE someting like axiom="FFFFFFFFFFA", rule_a="[&&FFFA][^^FFFA]" 23:31 VanessaE iterations = 3, angle = 20 23:31 Peacock thanks :-) 23:31 VanessaE that should get you close anyway 23:32 Peacock i modified some of your moretree models to make carboniferous type trees :D 23:32 VanessaE cool 23:32 Peacock which is basically long trunks, fewer leaves lol 23:32 VanessaE plan on contributing them back to moretrees? :) 23:32 Peacock well they'd be out of place for the time period? 23:32 Peacock i can take pics and you decide yourself 23:32 VanessaE well 23:33 VanessaE in minetest almost anything goes. Hell, we have mese trees in nyancat heaven, and there was that iron trees mod way back when.... 23:33 VanessaE and your alien and bouleau trees if I remember eight 23:33 VanessaE eight* 23:33 VanessaE RIGHT***** 23:33 Peacock lol 23:34 Peacock bouleau yeah i didn't know the english word at the time (birch) lol 23:34 VanessaE I wondered wtf a bouleau tree was :D 23:34 Peacock bouleau = birch, not one of those obvious translations lol 23:34 VanessaE who was it who had that cherryblossom tree? 23:35 Peacock cherryblossom...hm, wasn't that sapier? 23:35 VanessaE idk 23:35 Peacock i remember making a white bark tree with pink leaves, forget the name tho 23:35 Peacock then i made those slim trees you often see in new subdivisions 23:35 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1638 23:36 VanessaE it was you :P 23:36 Peacock lol both the image and file host are dead lol 23:36 VanessaE yup 23:36 Peacock i can't remember everything i code :P 23:36 Peacock i think the #1 complaint about madblocks was that it changed too much in the span of a week XD 23:36 VanessaE I still have the HDX textures for all of those mods except nyancat heaven 23:37 VanessaE yes 23:37 VanessaE you went from OCD to ADHD :) 23:37 Peacock carboniferous (not all textures finished): http://s22.postimg.org/rjxs4chjl/screenshot_3385891282.png 23:37 Inocudom Why are the forums so quiet lately? What happened? 23:37 Peacock thats one of the tree model edits 23:37 VanessaE that's not bad at all 23:37 VanessaE reduce the angle param 23:37 VanessaE make the branches longer 23:37 Peacock i dont know what to name the trees, i can't find any documentation about tree names for the era 23:38 VanessaE [__FFFA] ---> [__FFFFFFFFA] 23:38 Peacock shit which tree is that? 23:38 VanessaE http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8e/Meyers_b15_s0272b.jpg 23:38 VanessaE look at the bottom of the image 23:38 Peacock jesus lol 23:38 Peacock i saw that image too 23:38 Peacock didn't spot the text 23:39 VanessaE oh sorry, that was a suggestion to change your rule_a setting,. add more F's 23:39 VanessaE and make the angle a little smaller 23:39 Peacock hmm yeah but what tree (name) is it? 23:39 VanessaE I'd guess it's number 2 23:39 VanessaE Schuppenbaum (Lepidodendron) 23:40 Peacock no i mean the moretree model im supposed to change :P i haven't changed the names yet 23:40 VanessaE oh 23:40 Peacock were those the apple trees? 23:40 VanessaE well whatever model produced http://s22.postimg.org/rjxs4chjl/screenshot_3385891282.png this image 23:40 Peacock lemme go ingame and find out lol 23:40 VanessaE I assumed ^^^ that iage was an attempt to use the tree model basis I gave you 23:41 Peacock yup its the apple tree i modified for that one 23:41 Peacock more F's? 23:42 VanessaE mmhmm 23:42 VanessaE well wait 23:42 VanessaE no 23:42 VanessaE nevermind 23:42 VanessaE forget I said that 23:42 Peacock okie dokie lol 23:42 VanessaE llet's see what your other one looks like 23:43 Peacock hm, either use the oak or pine model/tree for that 23:43 Peacock pine 23:43 VanessaE well start with any model you want but none of them are gonna have axioms/rules that'll be anywhere close to the that cgi image you showed 23:44 VanessaE well maybe jungle trees might 23:44 VanessaE if you don't mind mentally parsing the code to build a suitable model to start from :P 23:45 VanessaE Inocudom: about the forums, I don't know why they seem quiet 23:45 Peacock if i understood lsystem at all it wouldn't be any trouble lol 23:46 VanessaE well I meant parsing the Lua code that builds the models 23:46 Inocudom With proller's development branch around, you think people might be excited again. Things weren't quite this quiet last year. 23:46 VanessaE (I had to build them in Lua because I needed more randomness than could be fit into one static def) 23:47 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lepidodendrales 23:47 VanessaE found my way to a readable article 23:48 VanessaE um...definitely out-of-time for moretrees :D 23:48 VanessaE maybe you can fork it and make it into prehistoric_trees :D 23:48 Peacock yeah well i got the idea from the carbinoferous mod from MC 23:48 VanessaE *nod* 23:49 Peacock after playing mt- classic i got the idea to create a new game, sortof, reset or back to basics, but in a different setting/environment 23:49 Peacock http://s22.postimg.org/7pping6hd/screenshot_3455543588.png 23:50 VanessaE nice 23:50 kahrl Inocudom: keep in mind very few people actually go and compile and use branches other than master 23:51 Peacock yeah, all i need to do tho is switch the direction of the 2 branches upwards, and strip the middle of leaves 23:53 Peacock inocudom: i also noticed things getting quiet here and on the forums, though not too many people talk about MC either, so it may just be the voxel genre in general 23:53 VanessaE or summer winding fdown 23:53 VanessaE down* 23:53 VanessaE everyone goes back to school, etc. 23:53 VanessaE well not summer, fall now 23:53 VanessaE you get the point 23:53 VanessaE everyone's busy with school or whatever else 23:54 Peacock tell me about it, things start getting gray outside and i can't sleep at night anymore, lol hit the sack at 9am this morning 23:55 Peacock wife woke me at 4pm with coffee thinking i'd been sleeping for 12 hours lol 23:56 VanessaE heh 23:58 Peacock sucks though, in fall and winter i need nightshift work, spring and summer i usually find another daytime job lol 23:58 Peacock thats how i got to 30 jobs over 15 years lol