| Time |
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| 00:04 |
us|0gb |
I'd try it, but my world's rollback.txt is blank. |
| 00:05 |
zat |
kik |
| 00:05 |
us|0gb |
I mean, I could start a world with one, but it would take quite a while to get a large one. |
| 00:05 |
zat |
uh yes |
| 00:05 |
zat |
well it depends... you can find some lava spring and drain it to another cave |
| 00:06 |
zat |
that would make an instant huge log |
| 00:06 |
us|0gb |
rollback.txt captures non-player actions? Okay, I'll go do that. |
| 00:07 |
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| 00:09 |
zat |
:P |
| 00:09 |
zat |
it guesses who might have done something that triggered that |
| 00:11 |
us|0gb |
Okay .... the lava isn't even flowing. I think I bugged something up. |
| 00:11 |
zat |
D: |
| 00:12 |
us|0gb |
Natural lava isn't flowing either. |
| 00:13 |
us|0gb |
Okay, now it is, just rather slowly. |
| 00:13 |
zat |
maybe server is over capacity |
| 00:14 |
us|0gb |
Okay, I got it working by resetting my settings. |
| 00:19 |
us|0gb |
The rollback log didn't get very long. |
| 00:22 |
us|0gb |
And natural lava still refuses to flow, though placed and disturbed lava will. |
| 00:35 |
zat |
damn |
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| 01:19 |
RedBlade7 |
hey how do i get the brown-gray rocks? the pickaxe doesnt work, and neither do the shovel or the wood axe |
| 01:20 |
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| 01:20 |
stormchaser3000 |
hi |
| 01:20 |
stormchaser3000 |
vanessa are you there |
| 01:20 |
RedBlade7 |
shi |
| 01:21 |
RedBlade7 |
i was just asking, maybe you can answer, how do i mine the reddish-brown rocks? |
| 01:21 |
RedBlade7 |
they dont come out with the pickaxe, and the axe and shovel wont work either |
| 01:21 |
stormchaser3000 |
a pickaxe wood, stone, steel, diamond, mese |
| 01:22 |
stormchaser3000 |
,bronze |
| 01:22 |
RedBlade7 |
my pickaxe is made from a tree |
| 01:22 |
RedBlade7 |
how do i get the other ones |
| 01:22 |
RedBlade7 |
i see you need the lumps |
| 01:22 |
RedBlade7 |
to make ingots |
| 01:23 |
RedBlade7 |
will the tree-pickaxe not work for this one rock? |
| 01:24 |
stormchaser3000 |
yep |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 01:24 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 01:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
and you can make a stone epick out of the rock to |
| 01:25 |
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| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
oh the stones on the surface? try a pck |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
oh guess you figured it out : |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 01:25 |
* VanessaE |
wanders off again |
| 01:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
um vanessa why did you put the parymids mod on you survival server wouldn't that jjust cause lag? |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
stormchaser3000: not really, no. |
| 01:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
oh ok |
| 01:26 |
RedBlade7 |
the baked stone can be used with sticks, like the wood was? |
| 01:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
um yeah but you don't need to bake it |
| 01:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
just mine it then use it with sticks |
| 01:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
like a wood pick |
| 01:31 |
RedBlade7 |
when you mine it you get cobblestone and have to make it for the stone |
| 01:32 |
stormchaser3000 |
? |
| 01:32 |
stormchaser3000 |
just make a pick with the cobble |
| 01:32 |
RedBlade7 |
make it->bake it |
| 01:33 |
stormchaser3000 |
cobble, cobble, cobble |
| 01:33 |
RedBlade7 |
nope needed the stone |
| 01:33 |
stormchaser3000 |
____, stick, _____ |
| 01:34 |
stormchaser3000 |
____, stick, _______ |
| 01:34 |
stormchaser3000 |
no cobble will work if nor reload minetest |
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| 01:48 |
RedBlade7 |
hey it does work with cobble |
| 01:48 |
RedBlade7 |
dont know why i missed that boefre |
| 01:48 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
| 02:07 |
us|0gb |
Is it just me, or have YouTube videos been failing to load all day? |
| 02:08 |
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| 02:11 |
Dark_Soul |
VanessaE are you there? |
| 02:14 |
Peacock |
she's off to London to see the Queen |
| 02:18 |
Dark_Soul |
lol ok |
| 02:18 |
Dark_Soul |
well does anyone now a auto restart for servers for when they crash |
| 02:19 |
us|0gb |
It must be nice to be important enough to get an audience with the queen. |
| 02:19 |
us|0gb |
Auto restart? VanessaE has a script for that. I'll see if I can find it. |
| 02:19 |
Dark_Soul |
really thanks |
| 02:20 |
us|0gb |
I think it's on her GitHub account. |
| 02:20 |
Dark_Soul |
now i have to figure out how to let my server with out being on i have tried the wiki thing but doesnt work |
| 02:20 |
Dark_Soul |
thanks 0gb |
| 02:22 |
us|0gb |
Hmm. I can' find it, but I've seen it before and it's fairly simple. I can probably reproduce it. Hold on a bit. |
| 02:24 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, her script is something like this: http://pastebin.com/fNnEetYG |
| 02:24 |
us|0gb |
You'll need to add whatever parameters you use to the "minetest" command. |
| 02:25 |
us|0gb |
*"minetestserver" |
| 02:25 |
us|0gb |
I don't know how she terminates it. Maybe she uses killall or something. |
| 02:26 |
Dark_Soul |
ok thanks that would be very ok |
| 02:26 |
Dark_Soul |
oops |
| 02:26 |
Peacock |
watching Seven days in may - who knew they still had black and white in 64 |
| 02:27 |
us|0gb |
In 64 what? 1964? |
| 02:28 |
Peacock |
well they didn't make movies in 64 or 164 :P |
| 02:28 |
Peacock |
1964 yeah |
| 02:32 |
Dark_Soul |
ok well it works but how do i make it not select the world world |
| 02:32 |
Dark_Soul |
do i put my world in the minetestserver area |
| 02:33 |
Peacock |
math.pow(world,2) |
| 02:34 |
us|0gb |
"In 64" could have been 64 bit or something. I was unsure if you even meant a year. |
| 02:34 |
Peacock |
naw, Seven days in May came out in 1964 |
| 02:35 |
Dark_Soul |
what is math.pow (world,2) |
| 02:35 |
Peacock |
you said world world :P |
| 02:37 |
Dark_Soul |
yes its running the world from the world file named world which i dont even halve that world |
| 02:37 |
Peacock |
world/2 |
| 02:38 |
Dark_Soul |
well i have official been confused |
| 02:38 |
Peacock |
"halve that world" |
| 02:38 |
Dark_Soul |
half |
| 02:38 |
Dark_Soul |
thave |
| 02:38 |
Dark_Soul |
tomg |
| 02:38 |
Dark_Soul |
why cant i talk |
| 02:39 |
* us|0gb |
tries to cleave the world in two |
| 02:39 |
* us|0gb |
fails |
| 02:40 |
Dark_Soul |
XD |
| 02:40 |
us|0gb |
Hmm. It could be done easily in Lua. The question is, should it? |
| 02:40 |
us|0gb |
It would be quite amusing to have a fault through the whole map. |
| 02:40 |
Peacock |
the 2012 mod lol |
| 02:41 |
Dark_Soul |
wait i was to put that in the lua? |
| 02:41 |
us|0gb |
Put what in Lua? |
| 02:41 |
us|0gb |
And what does this have to do with 2012? |
| 02:41 |
Dark_Soul |
btw my one of my servers have been has ate its elf |
| 02:41 |
Dark_Soul |
self |
| 02:41 |
Dark_Soul |
the command you gave me |
| 02:42 |
Dark_Soul |
i put it in the terminal |
| 02:42 |
us|0gb |
No, that was to be saves in a file and run in bash. |
| 02:42 |
us|0gb |
*saved |
| 02:42 |
Dark_Soul |
explain what bash is sorry im a noob when it comes to linux |
| 02:43 |
us|0gb |
Do you know what the command line is? |
| 02:43 |
Dark_Soul |
in the terminal |
| 02:43 |
us|0gb |
Yeah. Run the script in Terminal. |
| 02:44 |
Dark_Soul |
ok i did and it kept trying to run it on the world named world for some rease why is that |
| 02:44 |
us|0gb |
Change "minetestserver" to "minetestserver --worldname <name of your world>" to choose a different world. |
| 02:45 |
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| 02:45 |
Dark_Soul |
ooo so like in windows i got this |
| 02:45 |
stormchaser3000 |
how do i cmopile minetest in windows |
| 02:45 |
us|0gb |
I wouldn't know how it is in WIndows. |
| 02:45 |
Dark_Soul |
i do but it sucks |
| 02:46 |
us|0gb |
I also don't know how to compile in Windows, sorry. |
| 02:46 |
stormchaser3000 |
:( |
| 02:46 |
stormchaser3000 |
i am tring to compile minetest-classic |
| 02:46 |
stormchaser3000 |
next brancch there is no windows build for it |
| 02:46 |
* us|0gb |
wants so desperately so crack a joke here, but is biting his tongue |
| 02:47 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
| 02:47 |
Menche |
sdzen makes the minetest-classic master builds |
| 02:47 |
* stormchaser3000 |
is loling so hard that he can barly breath |
| 02:47 |
us|0gb |
Hmm? |
| 02:47 |
stormchaser3000 |
jk |
| 02:47 |
stormchaser3000 |
i kno |
| 02:47 |
Menche |
? |
| 02:48 |
stormchaser3000 |
but i need to ask for the next branch build |
| 02:48 |
Dark_Soul |
http://pastebin.com/whn30Jxf this is what im puting in and its telling me its unavailable |
| 02:48 |
Menche |
last time i tried to make a windows build, something wasn't linked right and it couldn't find any libraries |
| 02:49 |
stormchaser3000 |
hmmm i folllowed the instucitons in the reeadme file |
| 02:49 |
Menche |
i was cross-compiling |
| 02:49 |
stormchaser3000 |
and cmake will not compile it right |
| 02:49 |
Dark_Soul |
what are you guys trying to do on windows? i can help i think |
| 02:49 |
Menche |
what was the output of cmake? |
| 02:49 |
stormchaser3000 |
compile minetest |
| 02:49 |
stormchaser3000 |
oh awit |
| 02:49 |
stormchaser3000 |
um |
| 02:50 |
stormchaser3000 |
it was |
| 02:50 |
stormchaser3000 |
tsome cmake file=e lists did not mack |
| 02:50 |
stormchaser3000 |
mach |
| 02:50 |
stormchaser3000 |
i will run it again |
| 02:50 |
* Menche |
isn't sure what parts of that were typos :P |
| 02:50 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, that code you pasted should work. WHat exactly does it say is unavailable? |
| 02:51 |
stormchaser3000 |
CMake Error: CMake was unable to find a build program corresponding to "MinGW Makefiles". CMAKE_MAKE_PROGRAM is not set. You probably need to select a different build tool. |
| 02:51 |
stormchaser3000 |
CMake Error: CMake was unable to find a build program corresponding to "MinGW Makefiles". CMAKE_MAKE_PROGRAM is not set. You probably need to select a different build tool. |
| 02:51 |
stormchaser3000 |
CMake Error: Error required internal CMake variable not set, cmake may be not be built correctly. |
| 02:51 |
stormchaser3000 |
Missing variable is: |
| 02:51 |
stormchaser3000 |
CMAKE_C_COMPILER_ENV_VAR |
| 02:51 |
stormchaser3000 |
CMake Error: Error required internal CMake variable not set, cmake may be not be built correctly. |
| 02:51 |
stormchaser3000 |
Missing variable is: |
| 02:51 |
stormchaser3000 |
CMAKE_C_COMPILER |
| 02:51 |
stormchaser3000 |
CMake Error: Could not find cmake module file:C:/Users/ian2/Desktop/CMakeFiles/2.8.11.1/CMakeCCompiler.cmake |
| 02:51 |
stormchaser3000 |
CMake Error: Error required internal CMake variable not set, cmake may be not be built correctly. |
| 02:51 |
stormchaser3000 |
Missing variable is: |
| 02:51 |
stormchaser3000 |
CMAKE_CXX_COMPILER_ENV_VAR |
| 02:51 |
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stormchaser3000 was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected. |
| 02:51 |
Menche |
lol |
| 02:51 |
Dark_Soul |
hold on |
| 02:51 |
Menche |
calm down ShadowBot |
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| 02:52 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
| 02:52 |
stormchaser3000 |
sorry |
| 02:52 |
stormchaser3000 |
that was my error |
| 02:52 |
Menche |
i would guess that you don't have a compiler installed |
| 02:52 |
stormchaser3000 |
and it took more than 19 lines |
| 02:52 |
Dark_Soul |
http://pastebin.com/LamzM4xp there its at the bottom of the paste |
| 02:52 |
stormchaser3000 |
i have mingw |
| 02:52 |
Menche |
apparently it can't find it |
| 02:52 |
Dark_Soul |
http://pastebin.com/LamzM4xp there its at the bottom of the paste |
| 02:52 |
Dark_Soul |
oops why does it do that |
| 02:53 |
Menche |
try using cmake . -DCMAKE_C_COMPILER=/path/to/compiler -DCMAKE_CXX_COMPILER=/path/to/compiler |
| 02:53 |
Menche |
tell it where mingw is installed |
| 02:53 |
stormchaser3000 |
i am using the gui version |
| 02:53 |
Menche |
:( |
| 02:53 |
Menche |
then enter the path to mingw in those fields in the gui |
| 02:54 |
stormchaser3000 |
how |
| 02:54 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, try renaming the world/world directory world/DarkNess. |
| 02:54 |
stormchaser3000 |
i ccan't |
| 02:54 |
Menche |
? |
| 02:54 |
us|0gb |
*worlds |
| 02:55 |
Dark_Soul |
ok i think i understand |
| 02:56 |
Dark_Soul |
ok i changed the worlds file name to DarkNess and still doesnt work |
| 02:57 |
us|0gb |
What worlds does it say are available now? |
| 02:57 |
Dark_Soul |
same thing |
| 02:58 |
us|0gb |
It says "world" is still available? |
| 02:58 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 02:58 |
Dark_Soul |
i dont even have the world file idk where its getignthat from |
| 02:58 |
us|0gb |
Is this on a remote server or on your local machine? |
| 02:59 |
Dark_Soul |
my labtop |
| 02:59 |
us|0gb |
Type "minetest" in Terminal and use the graphical interface to make a world with the correct name. |
| 02:59 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 03:00 |
us|0gb |
While you're at it, you can delete "world" from there if you like. |
| 03:00 |
Dark_Soul |
i just did |
| 03:00 |
Dark_Soul |
thanks |
| 03:00 |
Dark_Soul |
lets try that |
| 03:00 |
us|0gb |
Any time. |
| 03:02 |
Dark_Soul |
ok i was able to get on but how do i modify the world so that it has everything the other file has? |
| 03:03 |
us|0gb |
What did the other on have that this one doesn't? |
| 03:03 |
us|0gb |
*one |
| 03:03 |
Dark_Soul |
i have been running the server for about 3 weeks on this world and this world is blank i believe |
| 03:03 |
Dark_Soul |
hold on |
| 03:04 |
us|0gb |
Um. If you had stuff in that world, why did you delete it? |
| 03:04 |
Dark_Soul |
i didnt |
| 03:04 |
Dark_Soul |
the world file had nothing in it |
| 03:04 |
us|0gb |
Oh, I thought you said you deleted it from the graphical interface. |
| 03:04 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 03:04 |
Dark_Soul |
hold on |
| 03:05 |
us|0gb |
Was "world" the world you had for three weeks, or was it another world? |
| 03:05 |
Dark_Soul |
hold another world hold on plz |
| 03:08 |
RedBlade7 |
what do you do with bones |
| 03:08 |
RedBlade7 |
oh ok |
| 03:08 |
RedBlade7 |
got it |
| 03:08 |
us|0gb |
Build graveyards. |
| 03:08 |
Dark_Soul |
for somereason it telling me wrong password when trying to load on singleplayer |
| 03:08 |
RedBlade7 |
no wait it doesnt |
| 03:09 |
RedBlade7 |
how do i pick it up |
| 03:09 |
us|0gb |
take the stuff out, then pick it up. |
| 03:09 |
Dark_Soul |
i have modified the bonemeal t otake the bones that you leave when you doe to make bone meal with |
| 03:09 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, if someone created an account named singleplayer, you are locked out of single player mode. |
| 03:10 |
RedBlade7 |
cool |
| 03:11 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 03:11 |
Dark_Soul |
i can delete that tehn |
| 03:11 |
us|0gb |
Delete what? |
| 03:14 |
Dark_Soul |
the singleplayer file but still doesnt work |
| 03:15 |
us|0gb |
It's not that file that would need to be deleted, it's the passwords file, auth.txt. Best not delete that though. |
| 03:18 |
Dark_Soul |
ok i found a fix for temp if i close the terminal i can load the old world fine and dandy but if iload that other world it doesnt work how do i get my world file on the graphics thing |
| 03:20 |
cy1 |
I need a way to tell if a chest is full, with mesecons... |
| 03:20 |
us|0gb |
cy1, might require a custom script to do. |
| 03:21 |
cy1 |
us|0gb: I was looking at luacontroller, but I don't think it can query surrounding nodes... |
| 03:21 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, start the server, then log in from the client. Don't choose "Single Player", choose "multiplayer". The address is "localhost". |
| 03:21 |
Dark_Soul |
yes i know but its a blank world |
| 03:22 |
us|0gb |
cy1, I mean an actual Lua file. You might have to make a new node for that. |
| 03:22 |
cy1 |
Items that try to go in a full chest get bounced back and try alternate pipeworks routes. Then they pop out as entities if nothing is found. |
| 03:22 |
cy1 |
us|0gb: Nooo don't say that :'( |
| 03:22 |
us|0gb |
Sorry, there might be a way, I'm just not aware of it. |
| 03:22 |
us|0gb |
And new nodes aren't SO bad. |
| 03:22 |
cy1 |
I could just have the entities hit a pressure plate. Would lose 1 item every entity expiration though. |
| 03:23 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, somehow, you're ending up in a different world. I don't know how. |
| 03:23 |
cy1 |
us|0gb: but convincing jeija to use it is the hard part. |
| 03:23 |
Dark_Soul |
yes i know |
| 03:23 |
cy1 |
If only there was an item that fired a mesecon oh detector tubes of course |
| 03:26 |
us|0gb |
So you are logging in as you and entering your password and such? |
| 03:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
how about an mese amror pach for the 3darmor mod that is as goo as diamond bu will activate mescon circuts when on cantact |
| 03:27 |
Dark_Soul |
yes and its a complete new world no mods no nothing |
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us|0gb |
I don't know how that could be happening. I'm sorry, I'm out of ideas. Maybe someone else here will know how to fix it. |
| 03:29 |
Dark_Soul |
well thanks for everythign |
| 03:29 |
Dark_Soul |
well all i have found is it opening a older version of minetest |
| 03:30 |
us|0gb |
You have two versions of Minetest running? |
| 03:30 |
Dark_Soul |
i have 1 on windows and linux but im on linux and they are both 0.4.7 |
| 03:31 |
us|0gb |
Are both the server and the client currently running on GNU/Linux? |
| 03:32 |
Dark_Soul |
well both have worlds but i havent use windows in over a month |
| 03:35 |
stormchaser3000 |
well who wants to play on ogb.us |
| 03:36 |
stormchaser3000 |
0gb.us* |
| 03:39 |
Dark_Soul |
0gb i found something |
| 03:39 |
us|0gb |
WHat did you find? |
| 03:41 |
Dark_Soul |
i managed to get it where it would load th server and it wouldnt load and give me a error and this is what it said |
| 03:41 |
Dark_Soul |
http://pastebin.com/yXVp8wVX |
| 03:41 |
Dark_Soul |
it says stuff about what minetest its loading |
| 03:42 |
us|0gb |
Open Terminal. Type "killall minetest". |
| 03:43 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 03:43 |
Dark_Soul |
minetest: no process found |
| 03:43 |
Dark_Soul |
it gave me that |
| 03:44 |
us|0gb |
Oops, my bad. I meant "killall minetestserver". |
| 03:44 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 03:45 |
Dark_Soul |
same thing |
| 03:45 |
us|0gb |
Okay, try "minetestserver --worldname DarkNess". |
| 03:46 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 03:46 |
Dark_Soul |
wo |
| 03:47 |
Dark_Soul |
http://pastebin.com/nsJQJxvg |
| 03:48 |
us|0gb |
Not "killall minetestserver --worldname DarkNess". Just "minetestserver --worldname DarkNess". Leave off the "killall" part. |
| 03:48 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 03:49 |
Dark_Soul |
it just started the blank world agia |
| 03:50 |
us|0gb |
And you don't get a blank world when you start it in single player mode? |
| 03:50 |
Dark_Soul |
if i was to close the server yes |
| 03:51 |
us|0gb |
WHat do you do to start the Minetest client? |
| 03:51 |
Dark_Soul |
how do i usaully start my server? |
| 03:52 |
us|0gb |
Not the server. The client. The one that lets you play the game. |
| 03:52 |
Dark_Soul |
i got to server and got to favorites and click on my ip and log in |
| 03:52 |
Dark_Soul |
but i have no pirvs or anythin |
| 03:53 |
us|0gb |
If you are clicking on your IP address, you already have the client open. THat window is the client window. How do you open that window? |
| 03:54 |
Dark_Soul |
idk what you mean i havent been on windows in over 4 weeks |
| 03:54 |
us|0gb |
Not Windows, the window. |
| 03:54 |
* Dark_Soul |
is linux noob |
| 03:54 |
Dark_Soul |
ok yes |
| 03:54 |
us|0gb |
The game runs in a window, right? |
| 03:54 |
Dark_Soul |
its runnign in the terminal |
| 03:54 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 03:55 |
us|0gb |
How do you open it in Terminal? |
| 03:55 |
Dark_Soul |
typed the minetestserver --worldname DarkNess and it started the server |
| 03:56 |
Menche |
it couldn't find windows.h. that sounds important. |
| 03:56 |
us|0gb |
Not that window. Not the server. Do you know the window that has the Minetest logo and lets you see what you're doing in the game? The window with the log in screen? |
| 03:57 |
Dark_Soul |
omg Menche was so quite i was wonderign if he was still alive |
| 03:57 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 03:57 |
Menche |
i'd even marked myself as "away"... |
| 03:57 |
Dark_Soul |
i didnt see that |
| 03:57 |
us|0gb |
No. Menche has been a zombie for some time, but it's okay. He's a friendly and intelligent zombie. |
| 03:58 |
Dark_Soul |
lol |
| 03:58 |
Menche |
geek zombies eat CPUs instead of brains. |
| 03:58 |
Menche |
you're safe. |
| 03:58 |
us|0gb |
Ah, that explains it. |
| 03:59 |
Dark_Soul |
lol |
| 03:59 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, do you click an icon in the menu to open Minetest, or do you enter "minetest" into Terminal, or how do you open it? |
| 03:59 |
Dark_Soul |
click on the icon |
| 04:00 |
us|0gb |
Okay. Is the server still running right now? |
| 04:00 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 04:00 |
us|0gb |
Open a second Terminal. |
| 04:00 |
us|0gb |
Type "minetest". |
| 04:00 |
Dark_Soul |
tho some of the water is invisiable i hate the blue lines |
| 04:00 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 04:00 |
us|0gb |
Try logging into the server with that. |
| 04:01 |
Menche |
Anyone know how to reset where the compiler looks for system header files? I seem to recall there being some environment variable. |
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| 04:01 |
stormchaser3000 |
hi |
| 04:01 |
us|0gb |
Hello! |
| 04:01 |
Menche |
the root of my cross-compiler toolchain is a bit different than it expects |
| 04:01 |
stormchaser3000 |
who wants to playhunger games? |
| 04:02 |
us|0gb |
Sorry, I'm busy being tech support. |
| 04:02 |
Menche |
lol |
| 04:02 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
| 04:02 |
stormchaser3000 |
i might=t need it to |
| 04:02 |
Menche |
so might is set to 't' |
| 04:02 |
us|0gb |
You came to the right place then. |
| 04:02 |
stormchaser3000 |
i am tringto compile mientest on winddows |
| 04:02 |
Menche |
stap maeking tyops |
| 04:02 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
| 04:03 |
us|0gb |
Ah. If it's Windows support you need, you'll need to wait for Windows Minetest tech support. I'm afraid I am not he. |
| 04:03 |
* Menche |
is trying to cross-compile minetest for windows on minetest |
| 04:03 |
Dark_Soul |
ok that fixed the water problem but not the world problem |
| 04:03 |
Menche |
*on linux |
| 04:03 |
Menche |
that made no sense., |
| 04:03 |
Menche |
compiling minetest on minetest. right. |
| 04:03 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
| 04:03 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
| 04:04 |
Menche |
i suppose if someone made a big enough mesecons computer... |
| 04:04 |
stormchaser3000 |
yeah we all are |
| 04:04 |
us|0gb |
Compiling on Minetest. An interesting thought. I wonder if Jeija'a mesecons can handle compiling. |
| 04:04 |
* us|0gb |
types too slowly |
| 04:04 |
Menche |
i know that some minecraft players have made restone computers with memory and the ability to save/load programs |
| 04:04 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, open ~/.minetest/minetest.conf |
| 04:04 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 04:04 |
Menche |
mesecons should be able to do that more compact, with micro/luacontrollers |
| 04:05 |
Menche |
of course, using luacontrollers would sort of be cheating, as a luacontroller *is* like a small computer. |
| 04:05 |
us|0gb |
Look for a line that begins with "port = ". |
| 04:05 |
* Menche |
stops babbling and gets back to work |
| 04:06 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol i am at port + |
| 04:06 |
stormchaser3000 |
=* |
| 04:06 |
stormchaser3000 |
port = |
| 04:06 |
us|0gb |
Sorry, not you. Dark_Soul needs to find that line. |
| 04:07 |
Dark_Soul |
permission denide |
| 04:07 |
us|0gb |
I don't know to compile on Windows. |
| 04:07 |
Menche |
maybe i'll reboot into my windows installation and try |
| 04:07 |
Menche |
or start up my windows vm |
| 04:08 |
us|0gb |
Denied? I think you might have found the wrong file somehow, though I could be wrong. Open Terminal and type "gedit ~/.minetest/minetest.conf"/ |
| 04:08 |
Menche |
(my windows vm seems convinced that i pirated it, even though i used a valid key) |
| 04:08 |
stormchaser3000 |
i could start my linux vm |
| 04:08 |
stormchaser3000 |
and compile minetest from there |
| 04:08 |
stormchaser3000 |
(fedora) |
| 04:08 |
Dark_Soul |
ok it opened the config file |
| 04:09 |
us|0gb |
Look for a line that begins with "port = ". |
| 04:09 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 04:09 |
Dark_Soul |
it says 30000 |
| 04:09 |
Menche |
anyone know how to modify the header file search path? |
| 04:10 |
us|0gb |
Menche, I don't know if this is what you need? http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/cpp/Search-Path.html |
| 04:11 |
Menche |
i suppose i could add that to my C_FLAGS and CXX_FLAGS |
| 04:11 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, what does the line starting with "address = " say? |
| 04:11 |
Dark_Soul |
its blank |
| 04:11 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok how to make a server |
| 04:12 |
Dark_Soul |
storm i got you there |
| 04:12 |
Dark_Soul |
i can tell you how |
| 04:12 |
Dark_Soul |
just let me finish with 0gb ok |
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us|0gb |
THat means you haven't been loging in to localhost. Change that line to "address = localhost". |
| 04:13 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 04:13 |
Dark_Soul |
ok done |
| 04:13 |
Menche |
oh, the windoze build code uses BACKSLASHES in paths |
| 04:13 |
Menche |
grrr |
| 04:13 |
us|0gb |
Wait, close the Terminal running "minetest" before doing that, but leave the one running "minetestserver" up. |
| 04:13 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 04:14 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 04:14 |
us|0gb |
Now hit control + s to save the file. |
| 04:14 |
Dark_Soul |
already saved |
| 04:14 |
us|0gb |
Open Minetest from your menu. |
| 04:14 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 04:15 |
us|0gb |
Go to the Multiplayer tab. |
| 04:15 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 04:15 |
us|0gb |
Does it have a field that says "localhost"? |
| 04:16 |
Dark_Soul |
wait dude you made me close the 1 that had that version of minetest open |
| 04:16 |
Dark_Soul |
i dont have multi player just servers |
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us|0gb |
I don't think I'm understanding what you are seeing. |
| 04:17 |
us|0gb |
How did you install Minetest? |
| 04:18 |
us|0gb |
Did you find it in the Software Center? |
| 04:18 |
Dark_Soul |
i went to this one thing of forums that i had to paste in the terminal |
| 04:18 |
Dark_Soul |
n |
| 04:18 |
Dark_Soul |
no |
| 04:18 |
us|0gb |
Okay. Good. |
| 04:19 |
Dark_Soul |
and it installed the latest version of minetest the unstable |
| 04:20 |
us|0gb |
Okay, unstable. It looks like there's a changed from the stable version that I didn't know about. |
| 04:20 |
Dark_Soul |
yea |
| 04:20 |
Dark_Soul |
i hate unstable so much |
| 04:20 |
us|0gb |
Go to the "server" tab then. |
| 04:20 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 04:21 |
us|0gb |
Do you see a field that says "localhost"? |
| 04:21 |
Dark_Soul |
no |
| 04:21 |
stormchaser3000 |
itt will not say local host |
| 04:21 |
Dark_Soul |
sorry i ment the cliet tab has all the server stuff on it but no its not there |
| 04:22 |
us|0gb |
Oh, what? Sorry, the unstable Minetest is more different than I thought. Go to the "Client" tab. |
| 04:22 |
us|0gb |
So it doesn't have "localhost" in the client tab either? |
| 04:22 |
stormchaser3000 |
yep and still no local host |
| 04:22 |
Dark_Soul |
no |
| 04:23 |
stormchaser3000 |
do you tpe it in on the address bar |
| 04:23 |
us|0gb |
Did you close the window with the configuration in it? |
| 04:23 |
stormchaser3000 |
local host |
| 04:23 |
stormchaser3000 |
or 127.0.0.1 |
| 04:24 |
stormchaser3000 |
is he trining to log into his own server |
| 04:24 |
stormchaser3000 |
tehn use 127.0.0.1 |
| 04:24 |
Dark_Soul |
i know my own ip |
| 04:24 |
stormchaser3000 |
instead of local host |
| 04:24 |
Dark_Soul |
why not put that there |
| 04:24 |
us|0gb |
Yeah, but right now I'm trying to figure out why his conf is disconnected from the game. |
| 04:24 |
stormchaser3000 |
it won't work |
| 04:25 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, is the config file still open? |
| 04:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
0gb |
| 04:25 |
Dark_Soul |
hold on i think i fixed it |
| 04:25 |
us|0gb |
Okay. |
| 04:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
couldn't he just type in localhost or 127.0.0.1 |
| 04:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
on the adress bar |
| 04:26 |
Dark_Soul |
yes thats what i did |
| 04:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok |
| 04:26 |
us|0gb |
Is it working now? |
| 04:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
use 127.0.0.1 |
| 04:26 |
Dark_Soul |
nope |
| 04:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
i can't get local host to work |
| 04:26 |
Dark_Soul |
still this blank world no mods |
| 04:26 |
us|0gb |
Is the config file still open? |
| 04:26 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 04:27 |
us|0gb |
stormchaser3000, "local host" will not work because it's "localhost", not "local host". The space matters. |
| 04:27 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, close the config file. |
| 04:27 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 04:27 |
us|0gb |
Then use the same command to reopen it. |
| 04:27 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 04:27 |
Dark_Soul |
ok? |
| 04:27 |
Dark_Soul |
done |
| 04:28 |
us|0gb |
Look for the "address = " line. Does it still say "localhost"? |
| 04:28 |
Dark_Soul |
yep |
| 04:29 |
us|0gb |
And you had the Minetest window closed when you made the change, right? |
| 04:29 |
Dark_Soul |
no hold on |
| 04:29 |
Dark_Soul |
ok now i did |
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us|0gb |
Close the config file and reopen it while Minetest is closed. |
| 04:30 |
ndjdjksisksk |
hi |
| 04:30 |
us|0gb |
Hello! |
| 04:31 |
Dark_Soul |
yes i did |
| 04:31 |
us|0gb |
And the address line still says localhost? |
| 04:31 |
Dark_Soul |
ye |
| 04:31 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 04:33 |
us|0gb |
Okay. Close the conf file and type "minetest" into Terminal. |
| 04:33 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 04:34 |
Dark_Soul |
ok i see my ip at the bottom |
| 04:34 |
us|0gb |
Something's off ... |
| 04:35 |
us|0gb |
Okay, try logging in with your user name and password. |
| 04:35 |
Dark_Soul |
i did its the blank world |
| 04:36 |
ndjdjksisksk |
i am stormchaser3000 i had to timee out |
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| 04:37 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok lol now i ccan us=se my new username |
| 04:38 |
stormchaser3000 |
stormchaser3000 |
| 04:38 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol i used to use ndjdjksisksk |
| 04:38 |
stormchaser3000 |
so hi |
| 04:38 |
stormchaser3000 |
anyway how do i make a server |
| 04:38 |
stormchaser3000 |
i have tried |
| 04:38 |
stormchaser3000 |
but failed |
| 04:39 |
Dark_Soul |
ummm this isnt good my players are joining and this is a blank world |
| 04:39 |
cy1 |
Is there a switch circuit in mesecons? I was trying an RS latch, but if the input didn't last long enough it'd turn into a clock. |
| 04:39 |
stormchaser3000 |
oh no |
| 04:39 |
stormchaser3000 |
hey ddark can i join you server |
| 04:40 |
Dark_Soul |
idc but you cant do anything its piont less |
| 04:40 |
stormchaser3000 |
what is your ip |
| 04:40 |
stormchaser3000 |
i know |
| 04:40 |
stormchaser3000 |
and port |
| 04:41 |
Dark_Soul |
the ip is the 75.131 one on server list |
| 04:41 |
us|0gb |
So the world is still the old world, but only if you start it a certain way? |
| 04:41 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok |
| 04:41 |
cy1 |
Turns into a clock and lags the server I might add. |
| 04:41 |
us|0gb |
Sorry, for the delay, my mother likes to tell stories. |
| 04:41 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 04:42 |
Dark_Soul |
the way weir i have to be on for it to be up |
| 04:42 |
us|0gb |
I don't see why this would be happening. I'm not sure I can debug this from afar. I'm sorry. |
| 04:43 |
Dark_Soul |
its fine |
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| 04:44 |
* Menche |
thinks he finally got a windows cross-compile build to work |
| 04:44 |
stormchaser3000 |
how do i make a server |
| 04:47 |
cy1 |
I just want to make an automatically feeding furnace... |
| 04:48 |
us|0gb |
stormchaser3000, open Terminal and type "minetestserver". |
| 04:49 |
cy1 |
Everything works, but when the final product chest fills up, it just starts spitting out entities. |
| 04:50 |
us|0gb |
I imagine that is a pain. |
| 04:50 |
us|0gb |
How are you feeding the furnace? |
| 04:50 |
Menche |
stormchaser3000, did you ever get minetest-classic:next to build? I made a windows build that I tested successfully in wine: http://menche.us/files/minetest-1310.00-win32.zip |
| 04:51 |
cy1 |
us|0gb: A blinky plant hits a filter which sends items from a chest through pipeworks. |
| 04:52 |
us|0gb |
So there is an input chest and an output chest? |
| 04:52 |
us|0gb |
*chest(s) |
| 04:53 |
Menche |
someone on my old server made what he called a "quad-smelter"; it was 4 furnaces connected by pipeworks pipes that automatically balanced the smelting job across the furnaces. |
| 04:53 |
cy1 |
us|0gb: yeah, two input actually one for fuel. Though the output could be that, if I was cooking coal for instance. |
| 04:54 |
us|0gb |
cy1, with one raw material input chest, why does it overflow one output chest? |
| 04:54 |
cy1 |
us|0gb: Perhaps people keep adding stuff to the input chest. |
| 04:54 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok dark |
| 04:55 |
stormchaser3000 |
what map are you puting up |
| 04:55 |
stormchaser3000 |
? |
| 04:55 |
us|0gb |
So this isn't your own device, but a public device. |
| 04:55 |
cy1 |
us|0gb: Sure, whatever. It's a theoretical at this point. I was going to make it public. |
| 04:56 |
cy1 |
Menche: That's neat! |
| 04:56 |
cy1 |
I'd like to see it, certainly. |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
there it is. HDX supports dan's castle+ mod. |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
and now, I'm off to bed. |
| 04:57 |
cy1 |
Bye VanessaE! |
| 04:57 |
us|0gb |
Ah. Dealing with human stupidity/maliciousness/honest-error makes it harder. I'm going to have to fall back to my "needs new code" answer then. |
| 04:58 |
us|0gb |
Honestly, that ode SHOULD be in there. |
| 04:58 |
us|0gb |
*code |
| 04:58 |
us|0gb |
Good night! |
| 04:58 |
cy1 |
It'd be child's play to make chests and furnaces output digiline messages. The trouble is in getting permission. |
| 04:58 |
Menche |
that old world is 670 MB in tar.xz format |
| 04:59 |
Menche |
100 more MB in zip |
| 04:59 |
cy1 |
Also I have yet to find a working switch circuit with mesecons. :/ |
| 04:59 |
us|0gb |
cy1, I'd try to get permission. It seems like a critical functionality, not just for your intended purpose. |
| 05:00 |
cy1 |
Oh hey lua controllers can store persistent memory. That'll work as a switch! |
| 05:00 |
cy1 |
us|0gb: Sure, I'll submit a pull request maybe... |
| 05:02 |
khonkhortisan |
I made a two-wire swapper based on side, haven't used it yet |
| 05:04 |
us|0gb |
cy1, maybe talk to Jeija before writing the code. See if Jeija is even open to the idea. |
| 05:05 |
cy1 |
Well jeija just made digilines so it probably is up for grabs |
| 05:05 |
cy1 |
He might object to monkey patching them into default chests. |
| 05:08 |
us|0gb |
Oh, I forgot the pipeworks things aren't tied to mesecons/digilines. |
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us|0gb |
Pipeworks already monkey patched the chests, so I was thinking that wouldn't be an issue. |
| 05:09 |
cy1 |
A digiline going to a controller could toggle a mesecon signal to stop the injectors if the chest is full. |
| 05:10 |
khonkhortisan |
it's not an issue for two mods to override the same node, as long as they don't copy the whole node code. |
| 05:10 |
us|0gb |
AH, right. The controller node. So maybe it would be pulled. I'm not sure. |
| 05:10 |
khonkhortisan |
You have to read the node after it's loaded before changing a part it |
| 05:10 |
cy1 |
Wonder what the "receptor" field is for. Jeija uses it not, and receives signals in the "effector" field <_< |
| 05:10 |
us|0gb |
khonkhortisan, the second node overwrite removes the first though. |
| 05:10 |
khonkhortisan |
if it does that, it's overwriting it incorrectly. |
| 05:11 |
cy1 |
Yeah, the second node should keep the code from the first, and execute it when possible. |
| 05:11 |
khonkhortisan |
If you are changing tiles, you don't have to re-write nodebox. |
| 05:11 |
us|0gb |
to overwrite it "correctly", you have to use some hacky code to copy the array due to Minetest locking the array against modification. |
| 05:11 |
khonkhortisan |
it should read registered_nodes directly |
| 05:12 |
khonkhortisan |
that's a partial lock, against addition. modification is still allowed. |
| 05:12 |
us|0gb |
You should be able to modify the array then pass it back to the registration function, but you can't do that. |
| 05:12 |
cy1 |
hacky_swap_node is terrible and needs fixing. |
| 05:12 |
us|0gb |
cy1, yes, it's even in the name. |
| 05:13 |
khonkhortisan |
"When you assign a value to an absent index in a table, the interpreter looks for a __newindex metamethod" |
| 05:13 |
us|0gb |
Addition needs to be allowed, it's needed as much as any other modification. |
| 05:13 |
cy1 |
I don't like how nodes are registered, because that registry goes into a C structure inaccessible from the lua, so you can't even get at the data. IIRC at least |
| 05:13 |
us|0gb |
cy1, there's an array of the node data in Lua. |
| 05:14 |
khonkhortisan |
yeah |
| 05:14 |
us|0gb |
minetest.registered_nodes[node.name] |
| 05:14 |
cy1 |
I know, but changing that doesn't change the nodes in the game. |
| 05:14 |
cy1 |
or something. I forget the exact issue. |
| 05:14 |
us|0gb |
Right, you have to reregister it after that. |
| 05:15 |
khonkhortisan |
minetest.registered_nodes[node.name].tiles = "myfile.png" should work, but minetest.registered_nodes[node.name].myvar = myvalue won't |
| 05:15 |
khonkhortisan |
at least without a table copy |
| 05:16 |
cy1 |
thus hacky_swap_node... |
| 05:16 |
us|0gb |
Copying the table can only be doe one table item at a time, which is hacky. |
| 05:16 |
khonkhortisan |
I thought that was for moving two nodes physically in the world |
| 05:16 |
us|0gb |
*done |
| 05:16 |
cy1 |
Uh, yeah. You're right. Now I'm really confused... |
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| 05:28 |
cy1 |
I still say minetest needs a require system not dofile grumble |
| 05:28 |
us|0gb |
WHat would be the difference? |
| 05:29 |
Dark_Soul |
0gb i jsut thought of something |
| 05:29 |
us|0gb |
You could add "require = dofile" to make require() work, probably. |
| 05:29 |
Dark_Soul |
cant i use the terminial t ogo to places like files? |
| 05:30 |
us|0gb |
Terminal can't go places. Unless you mean the "cd" command. |
| 05:30 |
us|0gb |
What do you mean? |
| 05:31 |
cy1 |
us|0gb: The difference would be if you wanted to use someone else's module, you could get it without having to re-evaluate the file. |
| 05:31 |
cy1 |
also namespaces |
| 05:31 |
Dark_Soul |
yes well its opening another world a blank world right so its stored some whereso i jus tgo there and place all the world info in there and done i have the server back |
| 05:31 |
cy1 |
dofile("something.lua"); something.foo() = BAD |
| 05:31 |
us|0gb |
Namespaces are a wonderful feature, but I fail to see what they have to do with require. |
| 05:31 |
cy1 |
local something = require("something.lua"); something.foo() = GOOD |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
bah, so much for that idea. |
| 05:32 |
cy1 |
With dofile a module has to define globals, hoping they're not defined elsewhere. With require you don't. |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
sleep ain't happening. |
| 05:32 |
us|0gb |
Okay, so not just require, but some packaging code. |
| 05:32 |
cy1 |
packaging code...? |
| 05:33 |
cy1 |
It's not dependency tracking persay. That's what depends.txt is. |
| 05:33 |
us|0gb |
To package all the required file's code into a table. |
| 05:33 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, if you can find the world's data, that should work. |
| 05:33 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 05:33 |
cy1 |
Well, not necessarily all its code. The local variables wouldn't be preserved. You could even do something like javascript does, and have the module set attributes of "exports" to get exports. |
| 05:34 |
us|0gb |
Yes, but the point isn't that it needs to be required, it's that it need to be stored in a table. I used to require files all the time and they never ended up in arrays/tables. |
| 05:35 |
us|0gb |
Require isn't the same in every language. |
| 05:35 |
cy1 |
Every file in lua is implicitly wrapped in a function. dofile uses loadfile to load that function, and then just calls module(). So any file you can put "return 42" to return a value, which is then discarded by dofile. |
| 05:35 |
us|0gb |
What needs to happen is that plugin writers need to wrap their cod in tables then. |
| 05:35 |
cy1 |
I suppose. |
| 05:36 |
cy1 |
Plugin writers need to write less globals. |
| 05:36 |
cy1 |
And they can't because dofile requires that you do. |
| 05:36 |
us|0gb |
I already do that, and many others do as well. But some lazy people don't. |
| 05:36 |
us|0gb |
Globals can be stashed in a single global table. |
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| 05:37 |
Dark_Soul |
whats the cd command now? |
| 05:37 |
us|0gb |
This sounds like a "people need to write cleaner code" issue, not a "new feature needed" issue. |
| 05:38 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, cd lets you change the directory Terminal is acting on. |
| 05:38 |
Dark_Soul |
ij how do i use it |
| 05:38 |
us|0gb |
It probably won't help you right now. |
| 05:38 |
Dark_Soul |
doesnt hurt to try |
| 05:38 |
us|0gb |
Type "cd <directory name>". |
| 05:38 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 05:39 |
us|0gb |
But it can only take you where you know you're going. |
| 05:39 |
cy1 |
us|0gb: https://github.com/cyisfor/require/blob/master/init.lua |
| 05:40 |
cy1 |
How can you write cleaner code, when you always have to spell minetest "minetest" :p |
| 05:41 |
us|0gb |
Asside from capitalization, is that not the correct spelling? |
| 05:43 |
cy1 |
I might need it to be minetestModule, if I'm using the name minetest. It's more obvious with things like the "locks" global. |
| 05:43 |
cy1 |
if locks ~= nil then locks = oops... |
| 05:43 |
us|0gb |
Is your code supposed to evaluate only part of a file? |
| 05:44 |
cy1 |
It is supposed to evaluate a file only once, and not just throw away its return value. |
| 05:44 |
us|0gb |
I was unaware files had return values in Lua. |
| 05:45 |
cy1 |
They do. dofile just discards it. loadfile will return a function, which encapsulates the code in the file. |
| 05:45 |
cy1 |
sadly this function cannot take arguments. |
| 05:45 |
us|0gb |
Maybe that's why I didn't understand what you wanted. |
| 05:45 |
cy1 |
(you can return a function that taes arguments though) |
| 05:45 |
us|0gb |
So what does a file's return value tell you? |
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| 05:54 |
cy1 |
You can put a "return" statement in your file us|0gb. Otherwise it's just nil. |
| 05:55 |
cy1 |
Really I'm quibbling over semantics, and require works as a module so idk |
| 05:56 |
us|0gb |
Okay, I thought a return statement terminated the file and the value was not returned. |
| 05:56 |
cy1 |
It was returned, just discarded by dofile. |
| 05:56 |
us|0gb |
I'm not sure how to make that useful though, even if we could capture that value. |
| 05:57 |
Dark_Soul |
wow finding this file is hard |
| 05:57 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, try shutting down the server. Then open Terminal and type "minetest". |
| 05:57 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 05:57 |
cy1 |
us|0gb: Well, what I do is var mod = require('somemod','something') where the return value is... yeah |
| 05:58 |
us|0gb |
You said you can join the correct world when the server is off, right? Do it. We'll make Terminal tell us where the file is. |
| 05:58 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 05:58 |
Dark_Soul |
no open it the way where i cna join the correct world right |
| 05:59 |
Dark_Soul |
now |
| 05:59 |
us|0gb |
Yeah, but what useful value could we return that wouldn't be better of in one of the global tables? |
| 05:59 |
us|0gb |
Right. |
| 05:59 |
Dark_Soul |
ok hold on |
| 06:00 |
Dark_Soul |
ok i just started the server the right way |
| 06:00 |
Dark_Soul |
next |
| 06:00 |
us|0gb |
Pastbin the output from Terminal. |
| 06:00 |
Dark_Soul |
ummmm |
| 06:01 |
Dark_Soul |
i would have to get it out of the debug cuase i dont get anythign ong my terminal i never run my server threw the terminal |
| 06:02 |
us|0gb |
Run "minetest" in Terminal, then go to your world. That wy, there will be Terminal output. |
| 06:02 |
us|0gb |
*way |
| 06:02 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
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Dark_Soul |
http://pastebin.com/Vkf0yc8w |
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us|0gb |
That output is just trippy ... THe Minetest logo never showed up? |
| 06:09 |
Dark_Soul |
no |
| 06:09 |
Dark_Soul |
cuase i have t obe one to start the right server and that doesnt show on the terminal |
| 06:10 |
us|0gb |
I think your world might be in the Twilight Zone. |
| 06:10 |
us|0gb |
When I start a world in the client, I still get the Minetest logo. |
| 06:10 |
Dark_Soul |
in the what |
| 06:10 |
us|0gb |
In Terminal. |
| 06:10 |
Dark_Soul |
i do to but in th edebug |
| 06:10 |
Dark_Soul |
here hold on |
| 06:11 |
us|0gb |
The Terminal output should match the debug.txt output, last I knew. |
| 06:12 |
Menche |
what's all the CXFileReader messages there? |
| 06:13 |
Dark_Soul |
here hold onhttp://pastebin.com/npRC9Wny |
| 06:13 |
Dark_Soul |
http://pastebin.com/npRC9Wny |
| 06:13 |
us|0gb |
More Twilight Zone data, I assume, Menche. |
| 06:13 |
us|0gb |
I found your world. |
| 06:14 |
Dark_Soul |
that is the original world |
| 06:14 |
Dark_Soul |
wait a min |
| 06:14 |
Dark_Soul |
i just relized something |
| 06:14 |
us|0gb |
It's in the ~/minetest directory. |
| 06:14 |
Dark_Soul |
hold give me a sec |
| 06:14 |
us|0gb |
It should be in the ~/.minetest directory. |
| 06:15 |
Menche |
there's both a minetest and a .minetest folder? that could get confusing. |
| 06:15 |
us|0gb |
I think whatever command you used to install it is bugged up and made the client read from ~/minetest and the server read from ~/.minetest. |
| 06:16 |
us|0gb |
At least we're mostly back to the world of reality now. A fix should be but a file move away now. |
| 06:17 |
Menche |
great. my windows installation suddenly decided that it was pirated. |
| 06:17 |
us|0gb |
Try running "mv ~/minetest/worlds/DarkNess ~/.minetest/worlds" in Terminal. |
| 06:17 |
Dark_Soul |
pl |
| 06:18 |
us|0gb |
Opps, first delete the blank world. |
| 06:18 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
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us|0gb |
Menche, time for new wallpaper: http://gallery.techcode.org/albums/album13/ms_windows_xp_pirated_edition_1024x768.jpg |
| 06:19 |
Menche |
it reset my wallpaper to plain black in it's temper tantrum :( |
| 06:19 |
Dark_Soul |
it did nothing |
| 06:20 |
* Menche |
ponders whether or not to download M$ spyware in order to try to fix that |
| 06:20 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, try "minetestserver --worldname DarkNess", then log in. It should work this time. |
| 06:20 |
us|0gb |
What spyware would fix that? |
| 06:21 |
Dark_Soul |
well it loaded a ton of stuff |
| 06:21 |
Dark_Soul |
so i think it worked |
| 06:21 |
us|0gb |
Okay, good. |
| 06:21 |
Menche |
microsoft validation stuff |
| 06:21 |
us|0gb |
!next |
| 06:21 |
MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
| 06:21 |
* Menche |
isn't sure he wants to know what it is installing right now |
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us|0gb |
I would want to know what is on my system. |
| 06:22 |
Menche |
yeah |
| 06:22 |
Dark_Soul |
crap XD |
| 06:22 |
us|0gb |
That's why whenever I see a file I don't know anything about, I delete it. |
| 06:22 |
us|0gb |
What happened? |
| 06:22 |
Dark_Soul |
everythign changed to unkown |
| 06:23 |
us|0gb |
Okay, that's fixable. Shut down the server. |
| 06:23 |
Dark_Soul |
its the correct world but didnt load any mods |
| 06:23 |
us|0gb |
Are the "mods" in ~/.minetest/mods? |
| 06:23 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 06:24 |
Dark_Soul |
all where they belong |
| 06:24 |
us|0gb |
Open Minetest again. |
| 06:24 |
Dark_Soul |
it is |
| 06:24 |
Dark_Soul |
minetest |
| 06:24 |
us|0gb |
Do you see your world in the server tab? |
| 06:25 |
Dark_Soul |
i shut it down |
| 06:25 |
Dark_Soul |
cuase you said to |
| 06:25 |
us|0gb |
No, I mean in the local server tab, not the client tab. We want it shut down while you do this. |
| 06:26 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 06:26 |
Dark_Soul |
hold on |
| 06:26 |
us|0gb |
Is it on the list though? |
| 06:26 |
Dark_Soul |
no |
| 06:26 |
* Menche |
wonders why BlockMen is porting so many minecraft features verbatim |
| 06:26 |
Dark_Soul |
the copyis |
| 06:26 |
Menche |
he's making a nether mod that is almost exactly the same |
| 06:26 |
us|0gb |
What copy? |
| 06:26 |
Dark_Soul |
the back up |
| 06:27 |
us|0gb |
The back up is on your server list? |
| 06:27 |
Dark_Soul |
i copied it right be for we started this i haven moved it to a drive yet |
| 06:28 |
us|0gb |
Yeah, your client and server are indeed reading from different places. Whatever command you ran to install it didn't install it correctly. |
| 06:29 |
Dark_Soul |
well so the server is lost? |
| 06:29 |
us|0gb |
No, but it might be good to remove Minetest and reinstall it correctly later. |
| 06:29 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 06:30 |
us|0gb |
I'm looking up what we need now to fix the world. |
| 06:30 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 06:30 |
us|0gb |
Okay, we'll do this the hard way. Open Terminal and type "gedit ~/.minetest/worlds/DarkNess/world.mt". |
| 06:30 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 06:30 |
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| 06:31 |
us|0gb |
Really, ShadowBot? |
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| 06:31 |
Dark_Soul |
??? what i didnt ever type anything |
| 06:31 |
us|0gb |
Sorry about that. ShadowBot is misbehaving a bit. |
| 06:31 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 06:32 |
Dark_Soul |
ok type what now? |
| 06:32 |
us|0gb |
Pastebin the text that came up. |
| 06:32 |
Dark_Soul |
o |
| 06:32 |
Dark_Soul |
i didnt even get ot read what you said before i got kicked |
| 06:32 |
us|0gb |
Okay, we'll do this the hard way. Open Terminal and type "gedit ~/.minetest/worlds/DarkNess/world.mt". |
| 06:33 |
Dark_Soul |
lol well no need to paste it |
| 06:33 |
Dark_Soul |
gameid = minetest |
| 06:33 |
Dark_Soul |
thats it |
| 06:33 |
us|0gb |
Vary your responses a bit. Shadowbot got mad that you kept saying "ok". |
| 06:34 |
Dark_Soul |
oic |
| 06:34 |
us|0gb |
THat ...'s it? |
| 06:34 |
Dark_Soul |
yea |
| 06:35 |
us|0gb |
Are you wanting all the "mods" you put in ~/.minetest/mods to be installed to this world, or only some of them? |
| 06:35 |
Dark_Soul |
all |
| 06:36 |
us|0gb |
Type "ls ~/.minetest/mods" into terminal to get a list of them. |
| 06:36 |
Dark_Soul |
but i still want them where i can mess wit hthem cuase one is my mod and its the only copy and im still working on it |
| 06:36 |
us|0gb |
They'll still be editable. |
| 06:36 |
Dark_Soul |
ok good |
| 06:37 |
us|0gb |
The developers just recently made it harder to install them. It's a way better system, but less newbie friendly. |
| 06:37 |
Dark_Soul |
no such file |
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us|0gb |
Okay, run "mv ~/minetest/mods ~/.minetest". |
| 06:38 |
Dark_Soul |
said nothing |
| 06:39 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 06:39 |
Dark_Soul |
they are all where they need to be |
| 06:39 |
us|0gb |
Next run "minetestserver --worldname DarkNess", let it load, then shut it down. |
| 06:40 |
Dark_Soul |
ok done |
| 06:41 |
us|0gb |
Go back to the text window that just had "gameid = minetest". |
| 06:41 |
us|0gb |
Does it ask to reload? |
| 06:41 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 06:41 |
Dark_Soul |
no cuase i closed it but now it has alot of stuff |
| 06:42 |
us|0gb |
Okay, everywhere that it says "false" should be changed to "true". |
| 06:42 |
us|0gb |
Each one controls whether one of the "mods" loads or not. |
| 06:43 |
Dark_Soul |
ummmm i just checked where i always have my mods at and the whole mod file is gone |
| 06:43 |
us|0gb |
THat's because you had it in the wrong place. You moved it to the right place. |
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Dark_Soul |
o ok |
| 06:44 |
us|0gb |
They are at ~/.minetest/mods |
| 06:44 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 06:44 |
us|0gb |
Note the dot in that name. |
| 06:44 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 06:44 |
us|0gb |
Try starting the server and seeing if it works now. |
| 06:44 |
Dark_Soul |
well ok i changed them all |
| 06:44 |
Dark_Soul |
kk |
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| 06:47 |
Dark_Soul |
perfect |
| 06:47 |
Dark_Soul |
so I dont have to be on at all times anymore right? |
| 06:49 |
us|0gb |
Right. This will be permanent unless you undo some of it. |
| 06:50 |
us|0gb |
You may want to fix your Minetest installation though. What command did you use to install it? |
| 06:50 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 06:50 |
Dark_Soul |
idk VanessaE gave it to me |
| 06:50 |
* VanessaE |
hides |
| 06:50 |
Dark_Soul |
lol |
| 06:51 |
us|0gb |
Hmm. Well that's not very nice of her to hand out bugged up commands. |
| 06:51 |
us|0gb |
VanessaE, did it install it as a package? |
| 06:51 |
VanessaE |
what bugged command? |
| 06:51 |
Dark_Soul |
-.- i will not piont fingers ....... VanessaE did it! :P |
| 06:52 |
VanessaE |
us|0gb: likely I pointed him to the nightlies PPA |
| 06:52 |
us|0gb |
The one to install Minetest. It made the server read from ~/.minetest but the client read from ~/minetest |
| 06:52 |
us|0gb |
Hmm. THat's odd indeed. |
| 06:52 |
VanessaE |
he's probably running two separate copies - an old run-in-place build and a system-wide build from the ppa |
| 06:53 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, in Terminal, type "ls ~/.local/share/applications". |
| 06:53 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 06:53 |
us|0gb |
Does it list minetest.desktop? |
| 06:53 |
Dark_Soul |
nope |
| 06:54 |
Dark_Soul |
mimeapps.list |
| 06:54 |
Dark_Soul |
thats what it gave me |
| 06:54 |
Menche |
if it's installed from the ppa, wouldn't it be in /usr/share/applications ? |
| 06:54 |
us|0gb |
Menche, yeah, unless it was the stray run-in-place copy. |
| 06:56 |
us|0gb |
Dark_Soul, one last time, type "minetest" in Terminal. |
| 06:56 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 06:56 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 06:56 |
Dark_Soul |
im there |
| 06:56 |
us|0gb |
Are you able to see your world in the server list or is it the backup copy still? |
| 06:57 |
Dark_Soul |
i see my world |
| 06:58 |
us|0gb |
VanessaE is right. You have an extra copy of Minetest. |
| 06:58 |
us|0gb |
Do you have an admin account on your computer? |
| 06:58 |
Menche |
should probably remove the "minetest" folder (without the dot) |
| 06:58 |
Dark_Soul |
only 1 account and thats mine so im on it |
| 06:59 |
Dark_Soul |
so what do i need to do |
| 06:59 |
us|0gb |
Type "gksudo gedit /usr/share/applications/minetest.desktop". |
| 06:59 |
us|0gb |
Look for a line that begins with "exec". |
| 06:59 |
us|0gb |
Oh, and you'll need your password for that command. |
| 07:00 |
Dark_Soul |
ok yea i all ready bput it in |
| 07:00 |
Dark_Soul |
ok i see that line |
| 07:00 |
us|0gb |
WHat does that line say? |
| 07:01 |
Dark_Soul |
Minetest |
| 07:01 |
us|0gb |
This is case sensitive. Is it capitalized like that? |
| 07:01 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 07:01 |
us|0gb |
Change it to lower case and save. |
| 07:02 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 07:02 |
us|0gb |
Someone capitalized whatever Minetest you had before. |
| 07:02 |
Dark_Soul |
wait what the |
| 07:02 |
us|0gb |
Hmm? WHat? |
| 07:02 |
Dark_Soul |
now its lower |
| 07:02 |
us|0gb |
Before you changed it? |
| 07:03 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 07:03 |
Dark_Soul |
anyway |
| 07:03 |
Dark_Soul |
what now |
| 07:03 |
us|0gb |
Oh... 'kay. I don't know why the icon is not working but the command is then. |
| 07:04 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 07:04 |
Dark_Soul |
btw where do i go to mess with the mods cuase i have to turn off falling snow |
| 07:04 |
Dark_Soul |
its crashing |
| 07:04 |
us|0gb |
Go to your file manager. |
| 07:05 |
us|0gb |
Hit control + h. |
| 07:05 |
us|0gb |
That will let you see files you normally can't. |
| 07:05 |
us|0gb |
Then you'll be able to go to .minetest. |
| 07:05 |
us|0gb |
.minetest/mods |
| 07:06 |
Dark_Soul |
file manager? |
| 07:06 |
us|0gb |
How did you get to the files before? |
| 07:06 |
Dark_Soul |
sorry im half asleep its 3 in the morning |
| 07:06 |
us|0gb |
No worries. |
| 07:06 |
Dark_Soul |
going to the home folder |
| 07:07 |
us|0gb |
YOu probably opened the home folder in the file manager. |
| 07:07 |
us|0gb |
Go to the home folder anf hit control + h. |
| 07:07 |
Dark_Soul |
idk maby i jsut go to the side bar and click home folder |
| 07:07 |
us|0gb |
That will let you see the .minetest directory. |
| 07:07 |
us|0gb |
Yeah, that's your file manger. |
| 07:09 |
VanessaE |
ok I'm gonna try to sleep again. night. |
| 07:09 |
Dark_Soul |
i found .minetest |
| 07:09 |
us|0gb |
Good night. Best of luck! |
| 07:09 |
us|0gb |
In .minetest is mods. |
| 07:09 |
Dark_Soul |
bye |
| 07:09 |
Dark_Soul |
ok i see it |
| 07:09 |
us|0gb |
THat's where they are. |
| 07:09 |
Dark_Soul |
and finally lets do that auto restart agian |
| 07:10 |
us|0gb |
Are you asking for the code again or commenting on your next action? |
| 07:10 |
Dark_Soul |
code plz |
| 07:11 |
us|0gb |
My scroll back doesn't go back that far. Let's see if it's in my browser history. |
| 07:12 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 07:13 |
us|0gb |
Run this to start the server, not while it's already running: http://pastebin.com/fNnEetYG |
| 07:13 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 07:16 |
Dark_Soul |
well it ran the server |
| 07:19 |
Dark_Soul |
now if it typed /shutdown on the server would it start right back up? |
| 07:19 |
us|0gb |
Yes it would. |
| 07:20 |
Dark_Soul |
ok great |
| 07:20 |
Dark_Soul |
well im going to test it real quit then im going to bed |
| 07:20 |
Dark_Soul |
well it worked perfectly |
| 07:20 |
Dark_Soul |
thanks for all of you tiem and help 0gb |
| 07:21 |
Dark_Soul |
time |
| 07:21 |
us|0gb |
Okay, great. Good night! |
| 07:21 |
us|0gb |
Yeah, any time. |
| 07:21 |
Dark_Soul |
:D night all you are just siting there watching this noob fail lol |
| 07:21 |
us|0gb |
We all had to get started at some point. |
| 07:21 |
us|0gb |
Oops, too late. |
| 07:22 |
us|0gb |
G'night! |
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Good morning all; happy Bald And Free Day! :-D |
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Nocte |
What's up? |
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* john_minetest |
suddenly realizes that he is very clever: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=60197#p60197 |
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jojoa1997 |
Oh no https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7425 |
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jojoa1997 |
Anyways hi |
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rotcaer |
o/ |
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Exio4 |
\o/ rotcaer |
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Nocte |
Whoa... o.o You can be sent to jail for a sarcastic joke. WTF? |
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Nocte |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nc_4XpbK72o |
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Exio4 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4456 lol |
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VanessaE |
hi all |
| 13:57 |
Nocte |
America confuses me sometimes. :| |
| 13:58 |
VanessaE |
america confuses me all the time - and I was born and raised here. |
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rotcaer |
o/ VanessaE |
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Nocte |
"We gotta hunt down this guy for making a sarcastic joke!" "But sir, there is rising criminal activity right in the next town." "FUCK THAT! Now shut up." |
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Nocte |
Hehe. |
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Nocte |
Any crazy shit going around the news? :p |
| 14:02 |
VanessaE |
nothing that hasn't been going on for weeks now :) |
| 14:03 |
Nocte |
Aww. :p |
| 14:06 |
Nocte |
Any of you watched AVGN? |
| 14:06 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 14:07 |
VanessaE |
not familiar |
| 14:08 |
Nocte |
Angry Video Game Nerd over at Cinemassacre. |
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Nocte |
http://cinemassacre.com/category/avgn/avgnepisodes/ <- there... |
| 14:09 |
Nocte |
Lots of foul language and ranting about bad video games. |
| 14:10 |
Nocte |
They manage to keep it funny. |
| 14:10 |
VanessaE |
I'll pass |
| 14:12 |
Nocte |
Also: He's been making a movie. |
| 14:12 |
Nocte |
Of AVGN. |
| 14:13 |
Nocte |
Any of you guys got Pokémon X/Y? |
| 14:13 |
VanessaE |
not into pokemon |
| 14:13 |
Nocte |
They really made some improvements to the game thing: Character customization, mega form Pokés, 3D all around... :D |
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Nocte |
Man... The 3DS XL looks like a beast. o.o |
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rotcaer |
Nocte: I remember when I was in elementary school Pokemon was all the rage |
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rotcaer |
I mean, eh. What's the matter with that stuff? How come kids were zombified by it? |
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VanessaE |
no clue |
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| 14:56 |
VanessaE |
why was that set? |
| 14:56 |
messa4 |
sdfsd |
| 14:57 |
Jordach |
...that |
| 14:57 |
VanessaE |
we see you now, messa4 |
| 14:57 |
messa4 |
when u will add living animals and monsters? |
| 14:57 |
messa4 |
to default windows build? |
| 14:57 |
VanessaE |
there are mods that handle that. |
| 14:57 |
messa4 |
but it require some hacking and not official build etc |
| 14:58 |
VanessaE |
they'll be added to the default install only after the handling of mobs becomes stable and lag-free |
| 14:58 |
messa4 |
hard to get that for user that can use computer liek 1 hour per week |
| 14:58 |
zat |
installing mod is not a hacking |
| 14:58 |
VanessaE |
hacking? no |
| 14:58 |
VanessaE |
mods are officially supported by minetest. that's just how it works. |
| 14:58 |
VanessaE |
if you can copy a folder, you can install a mod. |
| 14:58 |
messa4 |
please add monsters to official build |
| 14:58 |
messa4 |
thx |
| 14:59 |
messa4 |
and armies of skeletons |
| 14:59 |
pitriss |
messa4: if you make mobs lag free.. |
| 14:59 |
messa4 |
like waves of enemies |
| 14:59 |
VanessaE |
all you have to do is unzip the mod, copy it's folder to where it belongs, rename it if necessary, and choose the mod in your world's configure menu. |
| 14:59 |
VanessaE |
no, I don't think we'll ever add skeletons. |
| 14:59 |
messa4 |
officla mods are working with default(!) windows version? |
| 14:59 |
VanessaE |
those are a minecraft thing, we don't need them. |
| 14:59 |
VanessaE |
all mods work with all current builds of minetest. |
| 14:59 |
messa4 |
thx |
| 15:00 |
VanessaE |
where current = not old. |
| 15:00 |
messa4 |
VanessaE: so goblins |
| 15:00 |
messa4 |
or skeletons but with swords |
| 15:00 |
VanessaE |
as in nightly builds. |
| 15:00 |
VanessaE |
no skeletons. |
| 15:00 |
VanessaE |
goblins? why? |
| 15:00 |
messa4 |
so goblins |
| 15:00 |
VanessaE |
we have other monsters. |
| 15:00 |
messa4 |
like what? neve seen that mod |
| 15:00 |
zat |
messa4: you can contact the authors of mobs mods and ask them. |
| 15:01 |
Jordach |
let the man speak |
| 15:01 |
VanessaE |
we have oerkkis, dungeon masters, sand/dirt/stone monsters, there's a mod that provides what's called a vombie, and there's a slimes mod also. |
| 15:01 |
Jordach |
goblins are original |
| 15:01 |
zat |
slimes? oh good >///< |
| 15:01 |
messa4 |
VanessaE: sand/drit/stone monsters = GOLEM :) |
| 15:01 |
zat |
they rape you too= |
| 15:01 |
zat |
? |
| 15:01 |
VanessaE |
messa4: sand, dirt, and stone - three separate monsters. |
| 15:01 |
VanessaE |
also there's a mod that adds mummies |
| 15:01 |
messa4 |
no no |
| 15:02 |
VanessaE |
and attacking NPCs |
| 15:02 |
VanessaE |
fuck, there are a ton of mods that add enemies |
| 15:02 |
messa4 |
u must create official mod with monsters |
| 15:02 |
messa4 |
just one |
| 15:02 |
messa4 |
instead biullions of unstable mods from some evil hackers |
| 15:02 |
messa4 |
who will install rootkit on computer |
| 15:02 |
pitriss |
lol.. must is not correct word |
| 15:02 |
messa4 |
etc |
| 15:02 |
VanessaE |
like pitriss and I already said, if you can come up with a fast, low-CPU lagless creatures mod, do it. |
| 15:02 |
Jordach |
cheap fucking piece of shit mouse |
| 15:02 |
VanessaE |
THESE ARE NOT HACKERS. |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
i've already broke LMB when my travelmouse hasn't :( |
| 15:03 |
messa4 |
VanessaE: its simple |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE |
MINETEST MODS ARE OFFICIALLY SUPPORTED AND SANCTIONED BY THE MINETEST ENGINE. |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE |
OKAY!? |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
!deop VanessaE |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
you can have it back later |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE |
shush, Jordach. :) |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
nope.avi |
| 15:03 |
VanessaE |
I wasn't gonna use it. |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
free speech biatch |
| 15:04 |
messa4 |
VanessaE: put monsters to separate thread and use "time frames" to move them. lets say once every 20ms. in that way it will not cause high cpu load, becasue there will be free time every frame. u know like in all lcomputer games |
| 15:04 |
Jordach |
messa4, that is done in-engine |
| 15:04 |
VanessaE |
mods already have such a feature. |
| 15:04 |
messa4 |
so why its lagging? |
| 15:04 |
VanessaE |
the problem isn't when they're moved. the problem is that they're server-side. |
| 15:04 |
Jordach |
because the engines code to make the mobs is bad |
| 15:05 |
pitriss |
messa4: and anout rootkit.. all sources are public so you can review them before usage, so no rootkits possible:) |
| 15:05 |
VanessaE |
the code runs on the server, not the client. |
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VanessaE |
if the server is far away, there will be lots of network lag. this will cause mobs to lag. |
| 15:06 |
messa4 |
but why its laggy? all u need is "id of monster" x,y,z, hp_left, state. thats ike just 5 varibles per 20ms needed for server/client |
| 15:06 |
Jordach |
also cause |
| 15:06 |
VanessaE |
anything past that is high server CPU usage, which will also be perceived as lag. high CPU usage is usually a sign of bad code. |
| 15:06 |
zat |
also... rootkit from a userspace lua script? |
| 15:06 |
zat |
w000000000t |
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messa4 |
zat: its possible in javascript so why not lua or perl etc |
| 15:06 |
VanessaE |
messa4: have you ever browsed the web to a slow website that doesn't respond right away? |
| 15:06 |
pitriss |
zat: thats second part of it, but.. I don't think he will understand this:D |
| 15:06 |
messa4 |
VanessaE: like laggy JS sites? yes! |
| 15:06 |
Jordach |
cmon you motherfucker, install my damn drivers |
| 15:07 |
VanessaE |
no not like laggy js site |
| 15:07 |
VanessaE |
answer the damn question. |
| 15:07 |
messa4 |
like high latency site? yes |
| 15:07 |
messa4 |
like web over tor |
| 15:07 |
VanessaE |
yes. |
| 15:07 |
VanessaE |
that's minetest lag. |
| 15:07 |
VanessaE |
same exact cause. |
| 15:07 |
messa4 |
send monsters movment over udp |
| 15:07 |
Jordach |
finally - mouse is capable of withstanding my clicks |
| 15:08 |
pitriss |
messa4: all traffic between mt server client is UDP |
| 15:08 |
pitriss |
*and |
| 15:08 |
messa4 |
so make server to be asynchronous - dont wait for monster packet, just use the pack IF ITS there. |
| 15:08 |
VanessaE |
your browser takes time to process your clicks (you punch a monster), the network takes time to send that info to the server, the server takes too long to process your request (kill the monster), the network takes time to send the data to your web browser (minetest client) |
| 15:08 |
messa4 |
its its not there - skip to avoid lag |
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VanessaE |
the result is your web page takes a long time to load (your minetest client takes a long time to acknowledge that the monster was killed) |
| 15:09 |
zat |
messa4: try to synchronize the positions and actions of 50+ mobs, with 10+ players, all at unknown/variable distance and different networks. While making all the actions server-validated to avoid cheating. |
| 15:09 |
messa4 |
zat: it can be done [all mmo games] hehe |
| 15:09 |
VanessaE |
there is no way to fix this without running a browser plugin or script (minetest runs a client-side mod) |
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zat |
messa4: I forgot to add, from a lua mod without touching the core code. |
| 15:10 |
messa4 |
that monster logic is written in lua or C? |
| 15:10 |
messa4 |
ah |
| 15:10 |
VanessaE |
and when you run a script or plugin in your browser, you open up security holes (minetest clients can be caused to cheat the server) |
| 15:10 |
messa4 |
BTW |
| 15:11 |
messa4 |
I added language=en. AND ITS STILL IN FRENCH |
| 15:11 |
Jordach |
messa4, minetest uses Operating System's language |
| 15:11 |
Jordach |
change that to change minetest's |
| 15:11 |
messa4 |
how to get it in english? |
| 15:12 |
messa4 |
u are telling me that i cant get english version if im usign chinese or french windows? |
| 15:12 |
messa4 |
this is retarded |
| 15:12 |
Jordach |
change the language settings in your chosen operating system to english to get an english minetest |
| 15:12 |
messa4 |
u cant |
| 15:12 |
messa4 |
its impossible to chnge launguage in windows |
| 15:12 |
VanessaE |
if you can't deal with it, either HELP FIX IT or go play minecraft. |
| 15:12 |
zat |
of course it is possible, you just have to hack it a bit :D! |
| 15:13 |
messa4 |
no no |
| 15:13 |
messa4 |
launguage its hard coded into windows base. thats why they are making so much $$$. french windows is diffrent to chnese windows etc |
| 15:13 |
messa4 |
diffrent binaries |
| 15:13 |
messa4 |
there are no lang files like in linux |
| 15:14 |
messa4 |
so they have 150 customers [150 countries] instead 1 version |
| 15:14 |
zat |
that is why I said the “hack†bit |
| 15:14 |
messa4 |
also minetest is laggy |
| 15:14 |
Jordach |
Control Panel -> Region and Language -> Keyboard and Languages -> Change Language -> Default input language -> English (United States) |
| 15:14 |
messa4 |
on this pc |
| 15:14 |
messa4 |
yOU CANT |
| 15:14 |
messa4 |
Input is not display launGUAGE |
| 15:14 |
messa4 |
GOD |
| 15:14 |
messa4 |
Jordach: please |
| 15:15 |
messa4 |
go to algeria |
| 15:15 |
messa4 |
and try to do it in caffe |
| 15:15 |
messa4 |
It will not work |
| 15:15 |
pitriss |
messa4: as VanessaE told you before, if something is not working in MT, it is open source project, you can send pull request with a fix |
| 15:15 |
messa4 |
input launugauge its just for input |
| 15:15 |
messa4 |
ok |
| 15:15 |
messa4 |
i need to go :( |
| 15:15 |
VanessaE |
bye |
| 15:15 |
zat |
kisses |
| 15:16 |
messa4 |
pleas add launguage choose in menu or some command line flag to enfore english |
| 15:16 |
pitriss |
zat: lol |
| 15:16 |
messa4 |
i will be in cafe maybe later |
| 15:16 |
messa4 |
but its expensive |
| 15:16 |
pitriss |
send patch:) |
| 15:16 |
messa4 |
not easy |
| 15:16 |
messa4 |
its hard to use french windows and firefox etc |
| 15:16 |
messa4 |
try it. painful |
| 15:17 |
zat |
try purchasing a computer |
| 15:17 |
zat |
and internet |
| 15:17 |
zat |
i did that ! |
| 15:17 |
messa4 |
dont have electricity at place where i live |
| 15:17 |
pitriss |
zat: +1 |
| 15:17 |
zat |
try to purchase electricity! |
| 15:17 |
messa4 |
there is light |
| 15:17 |
messa4 |
but nt sockets |
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zat |
install some technic solar panel |
| 15:17 |
messa4 |
right |
| 15:17 |
messa4 |
americans |
| 15:17 |
messa4 |
and their ideas |
| 15:17 |
messa4 |
see u |
| 15:18 |
zat |
americans... |
| 15:18 |
zat |
I hope you are not meaning USAns! |
| 15:18 |
JamesTait |
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/interviews/383494/sol-the-300-solar-powered-laptop |
| 15:18 |
Dark_Soul |
hmmm |
| 15:18 |
messa4 |
james |
| 15:18 |
messa4 |
go to algeria |
| 15:18 |
messa4 |
to desert |
| 15:18 |
messa4 |
go to caffe |
| 15:18 |
messa4 |
with arabic windows and firefox |
| 15:18 |
messa4 |
and try to buy something form ebay |
| 15:18 |
messa4 |
good luck |
| 15:18 |
zat |
I am going as soon as I can |
| 15:18 |
zat |
wait for me |
| 15:18 |
messa4 |
even google is ENFGORCING arabic for u |
| 15:18 |
messa4 |
and paypal etc |
| 15:18 |
messa4 |
impossiblet o read and use stuff |
| 15:19 |
messa4 |
like minecraft hehe |
| 15:19 |
zat |
enforcing? |
| 15:19 |
messa4 |
yup |
| 15:19 |
zat |
cannot you just change language? |
| 15:19 |
messa4 |
i try. then it go back after while |
| 15:19 |
messa4 |
becasue of OS settings +location detection. retarded |
| 15:19 |
zat |
cookies? |
| 15:19 |
messa4 |
same on paypal |
| 15:19 |
messa4 |
amazon etc |
| 15:19 |
zat |
it is not retarded |
| 15:19 |
pitriss |
messa: OMFG if you don't like somethjing code it.. you are talking as you are skilled enough.. show us your code, talk is so cheap |
| 15:19 |
zat |
imagine people from not english speaking countries, having all in english by default |
| 15:20 |
messa4 |
zat: thats why there shuold be ALways visiable and easy way to change launguage in all sites or applications. enforcing and guessing the user launguage is retarded |
| 15:20 |
messa4 |
go to algeria desert u will see hehehe |
| 15:20 |
messa4 |
at least i can use putty lol |
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rotcaer |
o/ |
| 15:20 |
messa4 |
and lynx |
| 15:21 |
zat |
guessing the language is not retarded, is a first step |
| 15:21 |
messa4 |
[server in usa] |
| 15:21 |
zat |
come on.... |
| 15:21 |
VanessaE |
messa4: if you can't deal with it, either HELP FIX IT or go play minecraft. |
| 15:21 |
messa4 |
VanessaE: i cant play it |
| 15:21 |
messa4 |
menu its in french |
| 15:21 |
VanessaE |
then HELP FIX IT. |
| 15:21 |
messa4 |
cant fix it. no computer |
| 15:21 |
rotcaer |
French. :( |
| 15:21 |
VanessaE |
buy one. |
| 15:21 |
VanessaE |
computers are cheap. |
| 15:21 |
messa4 |
BUAHAHAHHA |
| 15:21 |
messa4 |
IN USA |
| 15:21 |
zat |
I can understand some french.... though I never officially learned it |
| 15:22 |
zat |
maybe because I am hispanic? |
| 15:22 |
zat |
:) |
| 15:22 |
VanessaE |
buy a gasoline generator if you have no electricity |
| 15:22 |
pitriss |
messa4: in europe too.. |
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messa4 |
in algeria, marocco etc - buying old used cmputerl ike pentium 4 with 512mb ram is like 2weeks wages |
| 15:22 |
messa4 |
thats why i ahte americans |
| 15:22 |
messa4 |
and english ppl |
| 15:22 |
messa4 |
they dont travel |
| 15:22 |
messa4 |
and they dont knopw anything about real world |
| 15:22 |
zat |
that is terrible generalization |
| 15:22 |
VanessaE |
messa4: your situation is not unique. I have seen examples of some pretty creative methods of getting electricity to run personal electronics, including computers, in some of the remotest, back-woods parts of the world. |
| 15:23 |
zat |
plus you called me american |
| 15:23 |
messa4 |
VanessaE: that its easy |
| 15:23 |
zat |
and most american people is hispanic anyway |
| 15:23 |
VanessaE |
if they can do it, so can you...and you have access to an internet cafe to help. |
| 15:23 |
pitriss |
messa4: so move to better country and stop crying here and blame ppl from america |
| 15:24 |
zat |
Not to begin an argument, but just to clarify: http://www.usaisnotamerica.com/ |
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messa4 |
VanessaE: in uk i had plenty microcnotrolers that run from sun etc. but when u are far from home. even things like buing simple transistor or mcu is HARD. u cant just go to internet and order stuff from ebay. transport is expensive and most sites will display u stuff in arabic or french[enforcing it] |
| 15:24 |
messa4 |
so for buying one transistor of cost 1c u will pay in the end 50$ |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE |
messa4: if you can chat, you can code. |
| 15:24 |
VanessaE |
HELP FIX THE ISSUE or quiet down. |
| 15:24 |
messa4 |
pitriss: i dont blame u. im just saying that americans are dumb |
| 15:25 |
VanessaE |
I hapoen to be an American, and I am sure as hell not dumb. |
| 15:25 |
VanessaE |
happen* |
| 15:25 |
zat |
Messa4: http://www.usaisnotamerica.com/ |
| 15:25 |
messa4 |
anyway. nic to talking with u |
| 15:25 |
messa4 |
keep working on minetest |
| 15:26 |
zat |
thanks for all the nice motivation you just brought, they will sure work even harder now!!!! |
| 15:26 |
pitriss |
messa4: I'm european.. lol, but i don'ŧ like your atitude.. demanding this and that.. using "you must" instead of "please is it possible" |
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VanessaE |
messa4: if you can chat, you can code. HELP FIX THE ISSUE. |
| 15:26 |
messa4 |
and im serious. go for year to some far country. u will learn a lot. for example why its important to have abality to choose launugage or why software must be fast [minetst IS DOING THAT:)] buecasue some people cant just buy or borrow better machine :) |
| 15:26 |
pitriss |
VanessaE: +1 |
| 15:27 |
zat |
messa4: far, far from where? |
| 15:27 |
zat |
how can a country be considered far? |
| 15:27 |
pitriss |
messa4: i learned english by selfstudy, you can do it too!! try it! |
| 15:27 |
messa4 |
zat: for example go to some remote village in chile, or to algeria [far from big city] or to Mauretania etc |
| 15:27 |
zat |
messa4: there is electricity and internet in all Chile, did I tell you I am from Chile? |
| 15:27 |
messa4 |
but most americans just dont get it :( |
| 15:28 |
pitriss |
zat: LOL |
| 15:28 |
messa4 |
see |
| 15:28 |
messa4 |
exactly whgat im talkinbg about |
| 15:28 |
zat |
Chile is far from America (now that all like to call USA that) |
| 15:28 |
zat |
:)))))))))))) |
| 15:28 |
messa4 |
u just dont understand how the world works. stupid americans and english and dutch [rich and retarded]. but i spent 5 years in uk and it fuckin sucks |
| 15:29 |
messa4 |
see u rich boys |
| 15:29 |
messa4 |
good luck |
| 15:29 |
messa4 |
go to jungle |
| 15:29 |
messa4 |
and try to order the pizza or check facebook |
| 15:29 |
VanessaE |
messa4: I am from the USA. Not all of us are dumb. |
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Jordach |
messa4, shush i like in the United Kingdom |
| 15:29 |
messa4 |
then u will learn |
| 15:29 |
jojoa1997 |
hi |
| 15:29 |
Jordach |
live* |
| 15:29 |
messa4 |
i know |
| 15:29 |
messa4 |
im sorry |
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messa4 was kicked by VanessaE: messa4 |
| 15:29 |
zat |
now I understand why you were muted messa4 |
| 15:29 |
pitriss |
VanessaE: shooot!:D |
| 15:29 |
VanessaE |
that's enough. |
| 15:29 |
zat |
damn flash kick! |
| 15:30 |
pitriss |
VanessaE: thanks:) |
| 15:30 |
jojoa1997 |
what happened |
| 15:30 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, /query Jordach kick <nick> |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE |
Jordach: just another loudmouth. |
| 15:30 |
zat |
AAAAAAAAAAA |
| 15:30 |
Jordach |
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 15:30 |
Jordach |
two can play that :D |
| 15:32 |
rotcaer |
Uh. |
| 15:32 |
rotcaer |
You banned my alter ego. |
| 15:32 |
zat |
Why doesn’t anybody help me test the SQL ROllback!!!!!! |
| 15:33 |
rotcaer |
zat: I would like to, but I'm unsure if it will compile here. |
| 15:33 |
zat |
why not rotcaer |
| 15:34 |
rotcaer |
I'm already multitasking. |
| 15:34 |
zat |
uh |
| 15:34 |
rotcaer |
I could look at it idk... closer to the weekend? |
| 15:34 |
zat |
D:! |
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rotcaer |
Oh, also, I forgot to say hi. |
| 15:34 |
zat |
I will find someone else during the week I guess |
| 15:34 |
zat |
hi |
| 15:35 |
zat |
I just need someone to test it with a h00g rollback.txt |
| 15:35 |
zat |
mine is just 1.1gb |
| 15:35 |
rotcaer |
Good. Well, eh. I probably will have some time tomorrow. |
| 15:35 |
rotcaer |
woah 1.1gb |
| 15:35 |
rotcaer |
that's some disk space |
| 15:35 |
zat |
you think it is big? |
| 15:35 |
zat |
The resulting sqlite file after migrating was 580mb though. |
| 15:35 |
rotcaer |
1 GB is big for an ASCII file. |
| 15:36 |
VanessaE |
rotcaer: who banned what alter-ego? |
| 15:36 |
zat |
that sure is a bit of optimization |
| 15:36 |
Jordach |
!unban reactor |
| 15:37 |
Jordach |
feel free :D |
| 15:37 |
rotcaer |
VanessaE: well, I was that messa4 guy. |
| 15:37 |
Jordach |
rotcaer, damn |
| 15:37 |
rotcaer |
Just kidding. |
| 15:37 |
Jordach |
haha |
| 15:37 |
VanessaE |
rotcaer: hah |
| 15:38 |
rotcaer |
I do like the idea of sockpuppets, though. |
| 15:40 |
Jordach |
s/sock/cock |
| 15:40 |
* Jordach |
runs |
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* Jordach |
pokes sfan5 |
| 15:42 |
rotcaer |
That creepy silence moment before you realise your connection has farted. |
| 15:42 |
rotcaer |
s/mom/a mom/ |
| 15:42 |
rotcaer |
My ISP are fgts. |
| 15:43 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 15:44 |
rotcaer |
Russian telecommunications companies are, in general. |
| 15:45 |
rotcaer |
Speaking of which. Borat. |
| 15:46 |
rotcaer |
the village he came from is sperical Russian glubinka in vaccuum |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: I'm busy watching animes |
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rotcaer |
cartoons, the proper term is |
| 15:52 |
rotcaer |
First you borrow their words, then they come and screw your place. |
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webdesigner97 |
hi |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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zat |
rotcaer: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anime |
| 16:13 |
rotcaer |
I see. |
| 16:14 |
rotcaer |
Japanese cartoons. I don't see why they won't be selling our kids on slave market. |
| 16:15 |
VanessaE |
you ever watch classic transformers? the old G1 series I mean |
| 16:15 |
rotcaer |
Don't our cultures have own stuff? Why let fhem invade? |
| 16:16 |
VanessaE |
each culture has media specific to that culture, but there's nothing at all wrong with some cross-sharing. The Japanese make some good, nice stuff. |
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rotcaer |
I've seen an article on how Japanese fiction renders children socially inept. |
| 16:17 |
VanessaE |
no moreso than any other media would. |
| 16:17 |
VanessaE |
from any other country |
| 16:18 |
VanessaE |
you want your children to be smart? TEACH THEM TO BE! |
| 16:18 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 16:18 |
VanessaE |
don't blame TV for your own failings as a parent (this is not directed at you, rotcaer) |
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* paramat |
loves anime |
| 16:30 |
thexyz |
paramat: what anime? |
| 16:33 |
paramat |
studio Ghibli, mecha and scifi, im a macross fan, not gundam though |
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* paramat |
is also socially inept plol |
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rotcaer |
Pwned. |
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Dark_Soul |
well hmmm 0gb isnt on |
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Nocte |
Hmm. |
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Nocte |
paramat, you there? |
| 16:39 |
Nocte |
Seen 'Pokemon: The Origin' yet? Its more mature take on Pokémon. |
| 16:39 |
rubenwardy |
Hi all |
| 16:39 |
Nocte |
And based on Pokémon Red version of the games. |
| 16:40 |
rotcaer |
Red, as in, rule 34? |
| 16:41 |
Nocte |
Nah: Pokémon Red... |
| 16:41 |
Nocte |
The Gameboy version. |
| 16:41 |
Nocte |
;) |
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* paramat |
is there |
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paramat |
okay i'll check it out, i always liked the monsters |
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rotcaer |
If you like monsters, you should probably do autopsies for a living |
| 16:45 |
zat |
pokemobs! |
| 16:45 |
rotcaer |
Or medical experiments. |
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| 17:00 |
Nocte |
Hehe... Paramat. It references the game a lot. |
| 17:00 |
Nocte |
Dialogue lifted straight out of the game. |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
hello parama |
| 17:03 |
Jordach |
paramat, |
| 17:04 |
Jordach |
can't fucking type this evening |
| 17:05 |
Nocte |
Anyone want me to name Eevee after you? (I'm playing LeafGreen with Nuzlocke and randomizer. :D) |
| 17:05 |
paramat |
hi J :) |
| 17:05 |
Jordach |
your god is here ;) |
| 17:05 |
Nocte |
Should I name it Jordach? :p |
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* Jordach |
agrees |
| 17:06 |
Nocte |
Hmm, what form should I evlolve it after some time? You get to decide. |
| 17:06 |
Nocte |
Evolve* Can't type either. :( |
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heybye44 |
hello |
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* paramat |
recognises no gods |
| 17:07 |
Nocte |
Hah! My rival got a wooper. |
| 17:08 |
heybye44 |
RING DING DING DING DA DINGA DING!!!! |
| 17:09 |
Nocte |
Whoops.. |
| 17:09 |
Nocte |
Nope. :( |
| 17:09 |
Nocte |
I gotta change some settings. Sadly EEVEE is gone. |
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heybye44 |
wut... |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
playing pokemon? |
| 17:09 |
heybye44 |
who... |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
didn't name your rival "douche"? |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
:( |
| 17:09 |
Nocte |
I named him 'Bitch'. |
| 17:10 |
heybye44 |
dont cus here |
| 17:10 |
heybye44 |
i cant wait for 0.4.8 to come out |
| 17:11 |
heybye44 |
EVERYBODY DO THE FLOP! |
| 17:11 |
heybye44 |
*bang* |
| 17:11 |
Nocte |
No cussing here? Oh... I am not. |
| 17:11 |
Nocte |
Bitch = Female Dog. ;) |
| 17:12 |
heybye44 |
umm ok |
| 17:12 |
Nocte |
Lol.. Anyways. |
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heybye44 |
any way... i making a mod and put this in it "minetest.register_node("Mud:Mud", { tiles = {"Mud_mud.png"}, groups = {snappy=15,choppy=30,oddly_breakable_by_hand=2,flammable=0}, }) minetest.register_node("Mud:Radioactive Mud", { tiles = {"Mud_mud.png"}, groups = {snappy=15,choppy=30,oddly_breakable_by_hand=2,flammable=140}, light_source = {6}, })" |
| 17:16 |
heybye44 |
i loaded it into the game and it said it the cmd window open "Could not open file of texture" |
| 17:17 |
heybye44 |
any1 there |
| 17:17 |
Nocte |
Nope. :p |
| 17:17 |
* Nocte |
can't code. |
| 17:19 |
heybye44 |
n00bie........ |
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rubenwardy |
make sure Mud_mug.png exists |
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MinetestBot |
Thunder and lightning is striking in the channel, as your Minetest god is here |
| 17:44 |
Jordach |
paramat, ^ |
| 17:46 |
Jordach |
oh, and i've got the basic shape of the cube-y van down |
| 17:46 |
paramat |
cool |
| 17:47 |
Jordach |
basic shape: http://i.imgur.com/OKwd2KK.png |
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Jordach |
i just cut the two front wheel holes out |
| 18:00 |
paramat |
perhaps square wheels ... |
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Jordach |
paramat, http://i.imgur.com/V6s5fDQ.png |
| 18:02 |
Jordach |
i just happened to finish the wheels |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
and then i'll get around to texturing that badass |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
(i havent added a steering wheel) |
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Jordach |
rubenwardy, , http://i.imgur.com/V6s5fDQ.png |
| 18:03 |
Jordach |
- , |
| 18:04 |
Jordach |
Postman Pat... Postman Pat... </old_git> |
| 18:04 |
Jordach |
funny that some people remember :P |
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FreeFull |
Jordach: Bob the Builder? |
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webdesigner97 |
hi |
| 18:09 |
webdesigner97 |
I need help with this code: http://pastebin.com/YesWVrSd |
| 18:10 |
webdesigner97 |
The problem is in line 4: attempt to call method is_empty (a nil value) |
| 18:10 |
rotcaer |
shrink? |
| 18:11 |
ShadowNinja |
webdesigner97: 1) It is spelled is_empty 2) It doesn't take any arguments. |
| 18:12 |
webdesigner97 |
ShadowNinja: ouch |
| 18:12 |
webdesigner97 |
seems to be my mistake |
| 18:12 |
webdesigner97 |
btw, it wants an argument: http://dev.minetest.net/InvRef:is_empty |
| 18:14 |
ShadowNinja |
webdesigner97: Oh, right, but the list name, not the item name. |
| 18:14 |
webdesigner97 |
oh, and another question: is it possible to compare two lists like in line 5? |
| 18:14 |
webdesigner97 |
(it is the listname. I prefixed them) |
| 18:16 |
ShadowNinja |
webdesigner97: No, that will compare the table addresses in memor I beleive. You will have to iterate through them and check them. |
| 18:16 |
ShadowNinja |
memory* |
| 18:16 |
webdesigner97 |
ok |
| 18:16 |
webdesigner97 |
gtg now |
| 18:16 |
webdesigner97 |
bye |
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| 18:24 |
paramat |
J, i was thinking postman pat too :D |
| 18:27 |
Jordach |
...time to texture... *sigh* |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
name yer colours |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
paramat, ^ |
| 18:31 |
paramat |
umm |
| 18:31 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: Sokomine commited to minetest/minetest: Add support for parameter 'visual_scale' for drawtypes 'signlike' and 'torchlike' like used for drawtype 'plantlike' bb0d0ac32c 2013-10-14T11:20:55-07:00 http://git.io/WnOrUg |
| 18:31 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, ^^^^ |
| 18:32 |
VanessaE |
I already have it on my server :) |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
paramat, you also want seating |
| 18:35 |
* Jordach |
is thinking of an aeroplane mod |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
take to the skies |
| 18:35 |
paramat |
i don't see seats as essential, especialy as this is an enclosed car |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
paramat, is this for local or as part of the mod |
| 18:35 |
paramat |
minetest cars don't have steering wheels, they have WASD heh |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
so you just want a shell then |
| 18:36 |
paramat |
yeah thats okay |
| 18:38 |
Jordach |
paramat, remember: everything is mirrors |
| 18:38 |
Jordach |
mirror'd |
| 18:38 |
Jordach |
one side textures the other |
| 18:38 |
paramat |
aha i see |
| 18:40 |
paramat |
> "is this for local or as part of the mod" i think this model is mostly for Esteban's mod, although i will certainly use it myself |
| 18:40 |
Jordach |
paramat, then i should add seating if it's major |
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paramat |
colour: the violet of wool_violet |
| 18:42 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: Sokomine commited to minetest/minetest: Add support for parameter 'visual_scale' for drawtypes 'signlike' and 'torchlike' like used for drawtype 'plantlike' 19742d8d98 2013-10-14T11:38:56-07:00 http://git.io/cPp6CQ |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
dafuq] |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
okay |
| 18:44 |
Jordach |
can do |
| 18:46 |
thexyz |
sfan5: can you set up public rsync for your http://sfan5.duckdns.org/upload/ thingy? |
| 18:47 |
thexyz |
simple uploader uses that much technology D: |
| 18:47 |
thexyz |
ohh |
| 18:47 |
thexyz |
I love it |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
it's omploader |
| 18:48 |
Jordach |
with user accounts |
| 18:48 |
Jordach |
and hidden links |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
> Private Files can not be accessed at all. |
| 18:48 |
Jordach |
and that shit too |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
what's the point of uploading then? |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
well this thing is still alive because it's not as popular as omp was |
| 18:49 |
thexyz |
otherwise sfan5'd spend all his time removing CP from there |
| 18:49 |
paramat |
J: "remember: everything is mirrors". thats deep |
| 18:50 |
thexyz |
http://pomf.se/ is another omp alternative |
| 18:51 |
thexyz |
it'll die some day though |
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thexyz |
because it's totally unprofitable to host something like this |
| 18:52 |
Evergreen |
Hey all |
| 18:53 |
Jordach |
*we can dance if we want to, we can leave your friends behind...* |
| 18:53 |
Jordach |
it's rare, but i do often sing |
| 18:53 |
Jordach |
...when nobody is about |
| 18:54 |
paramat |
i remember safety dance |
| 18:55 |
Jordach |
paramat, can you define the creepyness of my models while you're here |
| 18:55 |
* Jordach |
doesn't get it |
| 18:55 |
paramat |
heh im sorry :) |
| 18:55 |
Jordach |
then i'll know where to improve :D |
| 18:56 |
thexyz |
paramat: if you love monsters you should try bakemonogatari |
| 18:56 |
thexyz |
if you don't like monsters you should try it anyway |
| 18:57 |
* paramat |
does bakemonogatari image search |
| 18:57 |
Jordach |
*we come together because opp--ossits att-rract* |
| 18:59 |
paramat |
mmm nice violet hair :P |
| 18:59 |
VanessaE |
bbl |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
*you got the touch, you got the power* |
| 19:01 |
Jordach |
*when all hell's breaking loose, you'll be riding the eye of the storm* |
| 19:03 |
thexyz |
paramat: indeed |
| 19:06 |
Dark_Soul |
yea VanessaE is on |
| 19:06 |
* Jordach |
will take a break from modeling |
| 19:07 |
paramat |
i assume the devs are aware of cavegen putting holes through on-generated spawned structures near the chunk boundaries? its such an obvious bug i had assumed it was 'wont fix' or 'cant fix', but i cant find the issue at github |
| 19:07 |
Jordach |
singlenode ftw |
| 19:08 |
sfan5 |
thexyz: well... I didn't want to implement checking when accessing private files, soo |
| 19:08 |
sfan5 |
also; how would I set up rsync? :P |
| 19:09 |
thexyz |
there's a problem with private files, yeah |
| 19:09 |
thexyz |
but it'd be cool to be able to backup all your archive |
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IceCraft |
hi |
| 19:15 |
Jordach |
hello IceCraft |
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Mossmanikin |
Hi folks |
| 19:21 |
thexyz |
sfan5: what's that samsung.pdf? |
| 19:22 |
sfan5 |
something about a (broken) hdd I have |
| 19:22 |
sfan5 |
google translate doesn't help much with the pdf |
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thexyz |
is it only available in russian? |
| 19:31 |
sfan5 |
yes, I think so |
| 19:31 |
thexyz |
poor you |
| 19:32 |
thexyz |
OCR should help |
| 19:34 |
thexyz |
nsfw, i guess |
| 19:34 |
thexyz |
nice newspapers you have there |
| 19:34 |
thexyz |
Calinou is from France, right? |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 19:35 |
thexyz |
me wants translation |
| 19:36 |
thexyz |
no, summary would be good enough |
| 19:36 |
Jordach |
Putin fucked in the ass by a Frenchie |
| 19:36 |
Jordach |
seems legit |
| 19:36 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 19:37 |
Mossmanikin |
:D |
| 19:38 |
Peacock |
roughly translated, "Francois Fuillon is not the only one kissing putins' ass" |
| 19:39 |
Peacock |
whoever that guy is |
| 19:39 |
thexyz |
yeah whoever that putin is |
| 19:39 |
Peacock |
francois fuillon |
| 19:39 |
Peacock |
i thought the french president was Francois Holland |
| 19:40 |
thexyz |
i tried |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
françois fillon |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
^ old prime minister |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
current president: françois hollande |
| 19:40 |
Calinou |
current prime minister: jean-marc ayrault |
| 19:41 |
Peacock |
so it goes, Fillon, Sarkozy, then Holland? |
| 19:41 |
Peacock |
oh wait, you have presidents and prime ministers? |
| 19:42 |
Peacock |
i guess presidents are like Queens for republics lol |
| 19:43 |
Dark_Soul |
can someone interput this plz |
| 19:43 |
Dark_Soul |
http://pastebin.com/k2z8VQuM |
| 19:43 |
Menche |
i'm guessing there's a problem with your ipban.txt? |
| 19:44 |
Dark_Soul |
ok well im trying to run the auto restart for my server and it will not go threw but i will look there give me a sec |
| 19:45 |
Dark_Soul |
well everything looks ok |
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| 19:50 |
Dark_Soul |
ok i emptyed the ip ban but it still says that |
| 19:53 |
Peacock |
delete ze file |
| 19:54 |
Dark_Soul |
ummm ok |
| 19:55 |
Dark_Soul |
stilll got the same error |
| 19:55 |
Peacock |
still cant load ipban? |
| 19:55 |
Dark_Soul |
guess |
| 19:55 |
Peacock |
try coping one from another world |
| 19:56 |
Peacock |
*copying |
| 19:56 |
Dark_Soul |
ummm ok |
| 19:56 |
Menche |
does BanManager load any other files? it doesn't actually give a filename. |
| 19:57 |
Dark_Soul |
idk thats all it says thats it so i have no idea |
| 19:57 |
Dark_Soul |
ang no Peacock still didnt work |
| 19:58 |
Peacock |
wtf lol did you change file permissions or something? or move shit around as sudo? |
| 19:58 |
Menche |
Ive had serialization errors from corrupt player files, but that gives a different message. |
| 19:59 |
Menche |
that's all the useful part of the output? |
| 19:59 |
Dark_Soul |
file permissions? |
| 19:59 |
Dark_Soul |
yes that is all it gives me word for word |
| 19:59 |
Menche |
hmmm, that's strange |
| 19:59 |
Peacock |
well you tried deleting ipban (did that create a new one btw?) and copying a fresh one, if you still cant load it, im thinking maybe a permissions issue |
| 20:00 |
Dark_Soul |
no it didnt make a new one |
| 20:00 |
Dark_Soul |
it worked last night |
| 20:00 |
Dark_Soul |
but not this morning |
| 20:00 |
Peacock |
bizarro |
| 20:01 |
Menche |
i can't reproduce that error. |
| 20:01 |
Menche |
i removed my own read privs on ipban.txt and added garbage values to it; it still works. |
| 20:01 |
Miner_48er |
copy the required files to a working copy |
| 20:02 |
Dark_Soul |
ummm read privs??? mine jsut has who is banned and there ip that si all it has ever had even whe nit worked |
| 20:03 |
Peacock |
what about write privs and folder privs? |
| 20:03 |
Menche |
the contents shouldn't be a problem. i added random garbage values to mine, and minetestserver reformated the file. |
| 20:03 |
Miner_48er |
he's new to unix? |
| 20:03 |
Dark_Soul |
i can run the server but it will not let me run the auto restart thats it |
| 20:03 |
Menche |
what is this auto restart? |
| 20:03 |
Menche |
that for loop? |
| 20:03 |
Dark_Soul |
? |
| 20:04 |
Dark_Soul |
it restarts the server on its own wit hme doing it |
| 20:04 |
Dark_Soul |
it worked last night |
| 20:04 |
Menche |
it's that script containing an infinite while loop? (sorry, wrong type of loop) |
| 20:05 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 20:08 |
Menche |
well this is weird. i removed my write privs from ipban.txt and started minestserver; somehow it re-added the write privs. |
| 20:08 |
Menche |
i chown'd it to root and minetestserver was able to chown it back to me. |
| 20:09 |
Dark_Soul |
yes even when i type in just minetestserver i get that error |
| 20:09 |
Dark_Soul |
i have t o type minetestserver --worldname DarkNess to start my server |
| 20:10 |
Menche |
does that work? |
| 20:10 |
Dark_Soul |
does what? |
| 20:10 |
Menche |
that command |
| 20:10 |
Menche |
minetestserver --worldname DarkNess |
| 20:10 |
Dark_Soul |
yes but i dont get my auto restart |
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Menche |
try this command: "while true; do echo hello; done" |
| 20:11 |
Menche |
just an infinite while loop on one line. |
| 20:11 |
Menche |
wait NO |
| 20:11 |
Menche |
try this command: "while true; do minetestserver --worldname DarkNess; done" |
| 20:11 |
Menche |
rather |
| 20:11 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 20:11 |
stormchaser3000 |
hi |
| 20:11 |
Menche |
lol, accidentally put my test command up :P |
| 20:11 |
Menche |
hello |
| 20:12 |
Dark_Soul |
hello |
| 20:12 |
Dark_Soul |
well it loaded the world |
| 20:12 |
stormchaser3000 |
hey dark how do i make a server |
| 20:12 |
Dark_Soul |
let me shut it dow n and see if it restarts |
| 20:12 |
Dark_Soul |
hold on bud |
| 20:12 |
Menche |
Dark_Soul: could you post the script you use? that command i gave you should have the same effect of restarting when the process exits. |
| 20:12 |
Menche |
it's just an infinite while loop on a single line. |
| 20:13 |
Dark_Soul |
thanks!!! Menche it was succesful |
| 20:13 |
Menche |
i'm not sure if it's necessary, but an example of the script added a small wait before restarting. |
| 20:14 |
Menche |
like so: "while true; do echo minetestserver --worldname DarkNess; sleep 1; done" |
| 20:14 |
Menche |
makes it wait 1 second before starting it up again. |
| 20:14 |
Dark_Soul |
no need to wait |
| 20:14 |
Dark_Soul |
lol |
| 20:15 |
Dark_Soul |
here is what i was using |
| 20:16 |
stormchaser3000 |
dark? |
| 20:17 |
Dark_Soul |
nvm i cant find it |
| 20:17 |
Dark_Soul |
ok yes |
| 20:17 |
Dark_Soul |
wait i may find it |
| 20:17 |
stormchaser3000 |
when wwill you bea ble to tell mee how to make a server |
| 20:18 |
Dark_Soul |
storm hold on |
| 20:19 |
Dark_Soul |
Menche i cant find it but ask 0gb he gave it to me |
| 20:20 |
Dark_Soul |
ok storm |
| 20:20 |
Menche |
i seem to remember getting that script from VanessaE |
| 20:20 |
Dark_Soul |
what have you done so far |
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Menche |
iirc she posted it somewhere on the forums |
| 20:20 |
Dark_Soul |
? |
| 20:20 |
stormchaser3000 |
i have forwarded my ports |
| 20:21 |
Dark_Soul |
ok well you got the hard part done |
| 20:21 |
sfan5 |
nice, I watched a full anime today |
| 20:21 |
stormchaser3000 |
and started up a server with the server settings in theconf file |
| 20:21 |
Dark_Soul |
i love anime |
| 20:21 |
roguejedi79 |
Is there a way to set up a console to monitor your server? |
| 20:21 |
Dark_Soul |
post you config file plz |
| 20:21 |
stormchaser3000 |
nice sfan |
| 20:23 |
sfan5 |
wow the trash forum already has 6 pages |
| 20:23 |
Peacock |
thats more activity than alot of boards lol |
| 20:23 |
* Menche |
was about to report an offtopic server advertisement, but it was deleted when he refreshed the page :D |
| 20:24 |
Menche |
lol: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=114336#p114336 |
| 20:24 |
Menche |
somebody tell me what that thread is about? |
| 20:24 |
stormchaser3000 |
server_dedicated = true |
| 20:25 |
sfan5 |
Menche: I deleted it |
| 20:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
server_name = stormcahser3000's survival server |
| 20:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
server_announce = 1 |
| 20:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
server_address = 208.54.40.239 |
| 20:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
enable_bumpmapping = true |
| 20:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
mg_flags = trees, caves, v6_biome_blend, v6_jungles |
| 20:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
port = 30000 |
| 20:25 |
Menche |
it's still there. |
| 20:25 |
Dark_Soul |
storm |
| 20:25 |
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| 20:25 |
Dark_Soul |
in a paste ben |
| 20:25 |
* Dark_Soul |
bags head on wall |
| 20:25 |
Dark_Soul |
*bangs |
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Menche |
don't annoy ShadowBot. ShadowBot has a temper. |
| 20:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
| 20:26 |
Dark_Soul |
yes it does he doesnt like me |
| 20:26 |
Peacock |
someone just needs to show shadowbot a good time ;) |
| 20:26 |
proller |
do not define server_addres |
| 20:26 |
Dark_Soul |
use paste bin |
| 20:26 |
Dark_Soul |
he has alot wrong |
| 20:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
i don't have a past bin acount |
| 20:26 |
Dark_Soul |
you dont need one |
| 20:26 |
Peacock |
maybe ben has one :P |
| 20:26 |
Dark_Soul |
to use it |
| 20:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
oh ok |
| 20:27 |
sfan5 |
Menche: it's still there, really, I can't find it |
| 20:27 |
sfan5 |
s/2nd comma/?/ |
| 20:27 |
Menche |
the link was still working then. it is gone now. |
| 20:27 |
stormchaser3000 |
oh wait sfan5 is your survival server now remote media? |
| 20:27 |
sfan5 |
stormchaser3000: it always was |
| 20:27 |
stormchaser3000 |
i get a lot of lag |
| 20:27 |
sfan5 |
yes, I'll disable the nether mod |
| 20:28 |
stormchaser3000 |
1 chunck per minute |
| 20:28 |
stormchaser3000 |
or at least 30 sec |
| 20:28 |
stormchaser3000 |
and teh items never drop |
| 20:29 |
Dark_Soul |
storm pastebin the config file |
| 20:29 |
stormchaser3000 |
ko iam |
| 20:29 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok i am |
| 20:31 |
stormchaser3000 |
http://pastebin.com/kPb863sG |
| 20:32 |
Dark_Soul |
o wow |
| 20:32 |
Dark_Soul |
hmmm let me get mine |
| 20:33 |
roguejedi79 |
I finally have my server up but am looking for an easy way to monitor it |
| 20:33 |
Dark_Soul |
here i will make yours |
| 20:33 |
Dark_Soul |
give me a server name |
| 20:33 |
stormchaser3000 |
MINE? |
| 20:33 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
| 20:34 |
stormchaser3000 |
stormchaser3000's survival server |
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Dark_Soul |
ok what do you want it to say like mine is a evil face |
| 20:34 |
sfan5 |
apparently some people use ssl with my webserver |
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Miner_48er |
roguejedi79 what are you trying to monitor? |
| 20:36 |
Dark_Soul |
miner he wants a perminate moderatoron his server like MinetestBot and ShoadowBot on here |
| 20:36 |
roguejedi79 |
Looking for a console type screen |
| 20:36 |
stormchaser3000 |
just have fun and if you don't wan to be griefed use the protector blocks |
| 20:37 |
roguejedi79 |
Server stats |
| 20:37 |
roguejedi79 |
Send commands |
| 20:37 |
Dark_Soul |
ok so you ip doesnt go to everyone i wil leave that blank for you to fill in |
| 20:37 |
stormchaser3000 |
brb |
| 20:37 |
Menche |
currently the only type of "monitoring" you can do is look at the server's output/debug files/rollback files |
| 20:37 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok |
| 20:38 |
Menche |
i forward the output of mine to a log file |
| 20:38 |
stormchaser3000 |
but i need to plug my laptop in |
| 20:38 |
stormchaser3000 |
so brb |
| 20:38 |
Dark_Soul |
ok now i need a the message of the day |
| 20:39 |
roguejedi79 |
Not ideal but thankyou for the input |
| 20:39 |
Menche |
i have a mod that allows sending commands from the command line |
| 20:39 |
Menche |
reads them from a file in the world folder |
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stormchaser3000 |
gu |
| 20:47 |
stormchaser3000 |
hi |
| 20:47 |
stormchaser3000 |
sorry |
| 20:47 |
stormchaser3000 |
wrongkeys |
| 20:47 |
stormchaser3000 |
so the motd |
| 20:48 |
stormchaser3000 |
is if yeu get griefed tell stormchaser3000 or mod or admin about it |
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stormchaser3000 |
dark |
| 20:51 |
Dark_Soul |
labtop or desktop |
| 20:51 |
Dark_Soul |
yes? |
| 20:51 |
stormchaser3000 |
laptop |
| 20:51 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 20:51 |
Dark_Soul |
so 10 or 15 max members |
| 20:52 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok |
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Dark_Soul |
which 1 |
| 20:52 |
Dark_Soul |
nvm that how many do you want |
| 20:53 |
stormchaser3000 |
15 |
| 20:53 |
* Evergreen |
is back |
| 20:53 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 20:55 |
Dark_Soul |
ok i have your config but it has alot of extra stuff ok so get rid of what you dont need or want ok |
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Dark_Soul |
i do have the fire disabled so you may or may not want that to be on |
| 20:56 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok |
| 20:56 |
Dark_Soul |
http://pastebin.com/ZJWTeDxQ |
| 20:56 |
Dark_Soul |
MIner are you there |
| 20:56 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok |
| 20:56 |
Dark_Soul |
then give me the address and port so i can log in :D |
| 20:58 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok so do i paste this into my conf file |
| 20:59 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 21:00 |
Dark_Soul |
yes |
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Dark_Soul |
o wait storm |
| 21:02 |
Dark_Soul |
i forgot something |
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Dark_Soul |
nvm just go wit hit |
| 21:03 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok |
| 21:04 |
stormchaser3000 |
i am abou to atart he server |
| 21:04 |
stormchaser3000 |
start |
| 21:04 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
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stormchaser3000 |
and it will not anounce to the server list |
| 21:05 |
stormchaser3000 |
it times out |
| 21:05 |
stormchaser3000 |
port 30000 |
| 21:05 |
Dark_Soul |
its fine |
| 21:06 |
Dark_Soul |
mine said that for ever |
| 21:06 |
Dark_Soul |
hmm |
| 21:06 |
Dark_Soul |
address |
| 21:07 |
stormchaser3000 |
ip 172.56.12.40 |
| 21:07 |
Dark_Soul |
i cant connect |
| 21:07 |
Dark_Soul |
hold on |
| 21:07 |
Dark_Soul |
i asume cause i amde a change |
| 21:07 |
Dark_Soul |
ok go to your config |
| 21:07 |
stormchaser3000 |
i have 14.7 kb a sec internet |
| 21:08 |
stormchaser3000 |
tmobile hot spot |
| 21:08 |
Dark_Soul |
well that may change somethings but go to congif |
| 21:08 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok |
| 21:08 |
stormchaser3000 |
conf |
| 21:08 |
Dark_Soul |
#server_announce = 1 announces the server to the server list, 0 turns it off find this |
| 21:08 |
Dark_Soul |
and flip flop to 1 and 0 |
| 21:09 |
Dark_Soul |
but leave the bottom part |
| 21:09 |
Dark_Soul |
and did you fix your address i nthe config? |
| 21:10 |
stormchaser3000 |
i just did |
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stormchaser3000 |
ok server back up |
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artur99 |
hi |
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| 21:13 |
stormchaser3000 |
hi |
| 21:13 |
artur99 |
which is the best screen recording app for win ? |
| 21:13 |
stormchaser3000 |
um in my opinion bandicam |
| 21:14 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 21:14 |
artur99 |
did u heard about ezvid? |
| 21:14 |
artur99 |
is it ok? |
| 21:14 |
stormchaser3000 |
no |
| 21:14 |
Dark_Soul |
no i cant connect |
| 21:14 |
stormchaser3000 |
hmmmm i am going to screen share dark |
| 21:14 |
artur99 |
its not ok, ir you didnt hear about it |
| 21:14 |
Dark_Soul |
ask Miner_48er i learned everything from him |
| 21:14 |
stormchaser3000 |
on screenleap.com and show you my config |
| 21:14 |
stormchaser3000 |
of my internet |
| 21:15 |
stormchaser3000 |
i might need to re_portforward |
| 21:17 |
Dark_Soul |
ok try the port forward again but thats all i can do |
| 21:17 |
stormchaser3000 |
hm hi |
| 21:17 |
Dark_Soul |
tsorry |
| 21:17 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok but go here |
| 21:17 |
artur99 |
what has bandicam free and bandicam ful? |
| 21:17 |
artur99 |
*full? |
| 21:19 |
artur99 |
stormchaser3000, bandicam adds a watermark, or a message at the start of the video: "This video is made with bandicam"? |
| 21:21 |
stormchaser3000 |
um yeah |
| 21:21 |
stormchaser3000 |
it ust says bandicam |
| 21:21 |
stormchaser3000 |
at the top of the screen |
| 21:21 |
artur99 |
:(( where? |
| 21:22 |
artur99 |
and how long? |
| 21:22 |
stormchaser3000 |
the whole video |
| 21:23 |
artur99 |
and where? |
| 21:23 |
artur99 |
all the screen? or a corner? |
| 21:23 |
stormchaser3000 |
at the middle of the top of the screeen |
| 21:24 |
artur99 |
and is visible, or transparent? |
| 21:24 |
stormchaser3000 |
tranparent but barly |
| 21:24 |
artur99 |
and how many procents of screen represents that image? |
| 21:25 |
artur99 |
*watermark |
| 21:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
um like 1/20 if not 30th |
| 21:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
1/30 |
| 21:26 |
artur99 |
oh, thanks for help :) |
| 21:26 |
artur99 |
what barly means? |
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| 22:01 |
JackGruff |
nuts man, mesecon doesn't move with blocks pushed by pistons |
| 22:01 |
JackGruff |
there goes my simple circuit breaker |
| 22:01 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
| 22:01 |
Menche |
trying to get the mesecon wire to be pushed? |
| 22:02 |
JackGruff |
yes |
| 22:02 |
Menche |
could use a Mese block instead of a mesecon wire. those will also conduct mesecons logic. |
| 22:02 |
JackGruff |
hmmm |
| 22:02 |
JackGruff |
let me try |
| 22:03 |
Menche |
or, probably better, use one of the available logic gates. |
| 22:03 |
Menche |
XOR should do it. |
| 22:05 |
Menche |
if you have a wire going into one input of an XOR gate and out the output, sending an ON signal to the other input will break the circuit. |
| 22:05 |
JackGruff |
it works! |
| 22:05 |
JackGruff |
hmm |
| 22:05 |
JackGruff |
i'll try that |
| 22:06 |
JackGruff |
for some reason i thought i would have to make a memory cell to store the on/off state |
| 22:06 |
JackGruff |
but i must have remembered some old redstone tutorial wrong |
| 22:06 |
Menche |
RS-NOR latch? or just a luacontroller could do that if you're lazy. |
| 22:07 |
JackGruff |
yeah |
| 22:09 |
JackGruff |
is there any hack to get pistons to conduct? |
| 22:10 |
JackGruff |
back in MC i wanted to stack sticky pistons on each other so they would all expand, but one piston can't conduct to the next |
| 22:11 |
Menche |
i don't think so. you could probably modify the piston definition in the mod to make them conductive, but idk how exactly to do that. It may be as simple as adding a group. |
| 22:13 |
stormchaser3000 |
it is |
| 22:14 |
JackGruff |
ok, well, xor doesn't work in my case |
| 22:14 |
JackGruff |
the one input is a blinky plant |
| 22:14 |
JackGruff |
i'm basically trying to switch a clock on/off |
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JackGruff |
i friggin love git |
| 22:26 |
JackGruff |
i love being able to update all mods in one go with one bash script |
| 22:26 |
JackGruff |
suck on that notch |
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us`0gb |
JackGruff, couldn't a script handle regular uploading as well? |
| 22:26 |
Menche |
yep. very convenient. Except for the occasional mod that is only available as a .rar archive from Mediafire... |
| 22:26 |
JackGruff |
i suppose. |
| 22:27 |
Menche |
as long as the latest version always has the same URL |
| 22:27 |
JackGruff |
i just have a simple one that changes into each dir and calls git pull $dir |
| 22:27 |
Menche |
it's hard to get any easier than "git pull" |
| 22:27 |
JackGruff |
and it loops through them so i dont have to update each time i clone a new repo |
| 22:28 |
us`0gb |
Personally, I'm not a fan of git. I use GitHub only because that is the standard this community has chosen. |
| 22:28 |
JackGruff |
and then i just symlink to the mods folder as i may not want all from a mod pack |
| 22:28 |
us`0gb |
It's easiest if we are all on the same page. |
| 22:28 |
JackGruff |
what don't u like about git? |
| 22:30 |
us`0gb |
Uploading in git takes three commands where only one should be needed. That's the main reason, but it's a pain in other small ways as well. |
| 22:30 |
us`0gb |
I much prefer just uploading a regular file. |
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us`0gb |
THe three command thing is a clear sign that git is overly complex though. |
| 22:32 |
JackGruff |
VanessaE, why hasn't git cracked done on you for storing so much non-code files? |
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* Evergreen |
is back |
| 22:36 |
Evergreen |
Hi us`0gb |
| 22:37 |
Evergreen |
Hi Mossmanikin! |
| 22:37 |
Evergreen |
Been a while since I've seen you on irc |
| 22:40 |
us`0gb |
Hello! |
| 22:40 |
us`0gb |
I saw you on IRC yesterday, I think. |
| 22:42 |
Evergreen |
Not you us`0gb, I meant Mossmanikin |
| 22:43 |
us`0gb |
Oh, sorry, I kind of spaced that. |
| 22:45 |
Mossmanikin |
Evergreen: Hi Evergreen :) |
| 22:45 |
Evergreen |
Hello |
| 22:46 |
Mossmanikin |
Either too busy with modding or too much RL ;) |
| 22:47 |
Evergreen |
Yeah, one can have too much real life sometimes |
| 22:48 |
us`0gb |
Sometimes? Try all the time. |
| 22:49 |
* us`0gb |
just wants to escape for a bit |
| 22:49 |
Mossmanikin |
Yea earth days don't have enough hours |
| 22:51 |
Mossmanikin |
And there's Murphy's law of course |
| 22:51 |
us`0gb |
Of course. |
| 22:51 |
us`0gb |
Why would he write such an awful law? |
| 22:52 |
Menche |
a mars day only has about 0.6 more hours than a earth one |
| 22:52 |
Menche |
darn. |
| 22:52 |
Menche |
it's cold there anyways. |
| 22:52 |
us`0gb |
My brother wants us to colonize Mars. |
| 22:52 |
us`0gb |
He talks about it all the time. |
| 22:52 |
Menche |
isn't there some project that wants to send a group on a one-way trip? |
| 22:52 |
Menche |
to mars |
| 22:53 |
Mossmanikin |
Dunno, but sounds cool |
| 22:53 |
Menche |
they have it all planned out and think they can pull it off. I'm kind of skeptical. |
| 22:53 |
us`0gb |
I'm not sure, I don't have time to follow news. I'm the last to know about everything. |
| 22:55 |
Menche |
http://www.mars-one.com/en/ |
| 22:55 |
Mossmanikin |
I'd prefer we learn how to LIVE on this planet, still... I like the idea of living on another planet |
| 22:55 |
Menche |
a lot of people actually applied to go |
| 22:56 |
JackGruff |
we need insulated vertical mesecon |
| 22:56 |
JackGruff |
but i wanna go to mars :( |
| 22:57 |
us`0gb |
I think if we manage to get off the planet, two main things will happen. First of all, we'll be like a virus, advancing our reach and taking over worlds. Second, we'll be able to escape the eventual death of our current planet. |
| 22:57 |
JackGruff |
virus? negative connotations? |
| 22:58 |
Menche |
not that there's much to take over. An icy bunch of rust-filled dirt and rocks. |
| 22:58 |
us`0gb |
Viruses spread and concur. I know no other metaphor for that. |
| 22:58 |
JackGruff |
i call it "species insurance" |
| 22:59 |
us`0gb |
(sorry, bad spelling) |
| 22:59 |
us`0gb |
It is that, which is my second point. |
| 22:59 |
JackGruff |
but i think that's to facilitate breeding |
| 22:59 |
JackGruff |
which we are naturally selected for |
| 22:59 |
* Menche |
doesn't think a mars colony will be able to exist on it's own without support from Earth |
| 22:59 |
us`0gb |
But we'll also just spread and multiply. |
| 22:59 |
Mossmanikin |
A virus is just a living being (or not, depends on the definition of life) |
| 22:59 |
JackGruff |
yes. those that don't die off |
| 23:00 |
us`0gb |
Right. This is assuming we were to figure out how to survive. |
| 23:00 |
us`0gb |
Without Earth. |
| 23:00 |
JackGruff |
i would die of boredom on mars to be honest |
| 23:00 |
Menche |
the Martian atmosphere is thin, cold, and (almost?) oxygen-less |
| 23:00 |
us`0gb |
Right. THis isn't happening any time soon. |
| 23:00 |
Mossmanikin |
I like the idea of terraforming... |
| 23:01 |
Menche |
i'm not saying it's impossible, but the first colonies will have to be completely contained in small climate controlled capsules. a full suit will be needed to do anything outside. |
| 23:02 |
Menche |
this conversation started because Mossmanikin complained that there aren't enough hours in an Earth day. |
| 23:02 |
Mossmanikin |
And I'm afraid there'll be a lot psychological problems... |
| 23:03 |
Mossmanikin |
Menche: yeah, sorry about that... actually not :D |
| 23:03 |
Menche |
what, knowing that you'll be separated from the rest of humanity for the rest of your life? |
| 23:03 |
Mossmanikin |
Isolation |
| 23:05 |
Menche |
there'd be a ping of several hours. |
| 23:05 |
Menche |
the block you just placed disappeared off the server? you haven't seen network lag yet. |
| 23:05 |
Mossmanikin |
I mean: whe already have that in civilization with no nature around us, guess it'd be worse on another planet |
| 23:06 |
Menche |
of course the connection would have timed out before the init packet got to the server. |
| 23:07 |
Mossmanikin |
Surely is a reason to not move to mars |
| 23:08 |
Menche |
lol |
| 23:08 |
JackGruff |
is there a point in enabling all three texture filtering options or does anisotropic override them? |
| 23:08 |
Menche |
all 3? |
| 23:09 |
Menche |
mipmap, aniso, bilinear, trilinear |
| 23:09 |
Menche |
? |
| 23:09 |
JackGruff |
yes |
| 23:09 |
Menche |
4 |
| 23:09 |
Menche |
i don't know, i don't think aniso overrides them |
| 23:09 |
JackGruff |
i though mipmapping did something a bit different |
| 23:09 |
Menche |
it cuts down on noise in the distance |
| 23:10 |
Menche |
but causes a hard edge where it takes effect. anisotropic filtering fixes that. |
| 23:10 |
Menche |
i usually have both mipmapping and aniso on |
| 23:10 |
JackGruff |
i may be wrong but i though anisotropic was suppose to succeed bi and tri |
| 23:10 |
JackGruff |
thought* |
| 23:10 |
Menche |
bi/trilinear look terrible on any texture pack lower than about 256x |
| 23:11 |
Mossmanikin |
Which is of course a matter of taste ;) |
| 23:11 |
Menche |
sort of. |
| 23:11 |
Menche |
not really. |
| 23:11 |
* Menche |
doesn't understand how you can prefer your texures all blurred like that, but whatever. |
| 23:12 |
JackGruff |
i think we need a tp that's specifically designed for it |
| 23:12 |
JackGruff |
like a regular game's is |
| 23:12 |
Menche |
IMO anisotropic + mipmaps are the best for the default and most texture packs. |
| 23:13 |
Menche |
bi/trilinear looks fine with super-hi-res packs like HDX |
| 23:14 |
Menche |
...what's the difference between bi and trilinear filtering anyway? does one override the other when both are on? I haven't seen much difference. |
| 23:14 |
JackGruff |
that's the question i asked |
| 23:14 |
JackGruff |
from what i understand, tri is more sophisticated than bi |
| 23:15 |
Mossmanikin |
There is a difference, but forgot, don't use 'rem... |
| 23:15 |
Mossmanikin |
*'em |
| 23:15 |
Menche |
another setting i like is fsaa. |
| 23:15 |
Menche |
it isn't in the GUI for some reason. |
| 23:16 |
Mossmanikin |
what does fsaa stand for? |
| 23:16 |
Menche |
ever notice how the the black selection box has jagged edges? setting fsaa to about 4 fixes that. |
| 23:16 |
Menche |
i believe it stands for "full screen anti-aliasing" |
| 23:16 |
Menche |
but im not 100% sure |
| 23:16 |
Mossmanikin |
Ah, k |
| 23:17 |
JackGruff |
"Like bilinear and trilinear filtering, anisotropic filtering eliminates aliasing effects, but improves on these other techniques by reducing blur and preserving detail at extreme viewing angles." |
| 23:17 |
JackGruff |
from wikipedia |
| 23:18 |
Menche |
anisotropic filtering definitely doesn't override that in minetest. |
| 23:18 |
JackGruff |
maybe i should make a post on the forum so one of the devs can answer |
| 23:18 |
JackGruff |
i think you're confusing it with edge aliasing |
| 23:19 |
Menche |
maybe the bi/trilinear filtering is used on the textures themselves, while anisotropic filtering is used for the entire view? if that makes sense? |
| 23:19 |
JackGruff |
no, wikipedia says textures |
| 23:19 |
Menche |
idk |
| 23:19 |
JackGruff |
your thinking of the aliasing along the edges of a mesh |
| 23:19 |
JackGruff |
you're |
| 23:20 |
JackGruff |
fsaa fixes that |
| 23:20 |
Menche |
anisotropic helps reduce noise and eliminates the hard line caused by the mipmaps. |
| 23:20 |
Menche |
i never said it reduced the aliasing. |
| 23:22 |
JackGruff |
k |
| 23:22 |
JackGruff |
it's just that, if you look at the option in other games, they only give you a choice between the three |
| 23:23 |
Menche |
3 what? |
| 23:23 |
JackGruff |
bi tri and ani |
| 23:23 |
JackGruff |
i've never seen a game let you choose all three at once |
| 23:24 |
Menche |
this is a guess, but i think all minetest does with those options is set certain flags on the appropriate Irrlicht objects |
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Menche |
so it would depend on how the Irrlicht engine handles those. |
| 23:24 |
JackGruff |
yeah, and im guessing irrlicht chooses the most sophisticated of the three |
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| 23:25 |
JackGruff |
so if u tick bi and tri, it use tri |
| 23:31 |
JackGruff |
fug i hate it when tp authors stop updating |
| 23:37 |
Evergreen |
Calvin and hobbes was the best cartoon to be in a newspaper imo https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=114362#p114362 |
| 23:40 |
JackGruff |
bad link? |
| 23:41 |
Nocte |
Hmm.. |
| 23:41 |
Nocte |
Calvin and Hobbes? :p |
| 23:41 |
JackGruff |
are you the author of MT-Faithful, btw? |
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Nocte |
Talking about comics... Finland only gets those comedy stuff nowadays. |
| 23:42 |
jojoa1997 |
can anyone help me with linux terminal stuff |
| 23:43 |
Nocte |
Only actual comic I saw was 'Kick-ass' translated into Finnish. :( |
| 23:43 |
Nocte |
I avoided it because the jokes would have probably been lost in translation. |
| 23:43 |
Evergreen |
What do you need help with jojoa1997 |
| 23:44 |
jojoa1997 |
i want to make a command that will change all of the textures of potions_*.png from 16x to 32x |
| 23:45 |
Evergreen |
Use imagemagick |
| 23:45 |
Nocte |
Btw, textures: Are there any Full HD textures? :p |
| 23:45 |
jojoa1997 |
VanessaE's HDX from 16-256 |
| 23:45 |
Evergreen |
I can dig up the command if you want |
| 23:46 |
jojoa1997 |
and Evergreen imagegick? what is that? |
| 23:46 |
Nocte |
How much does it make the game lag? Haha. |
| 23:46 |
jojoa1997 |
that would be cool |
| 23:46 |
Mossmanikin |
also 512 AFAIK |
| 23:46 |
Evergreen |
Can someone else tell him what imagemagick is? |
| 23:46 |
jojoa1997 |
Mossmanikin, but not even VanessaE with her super computer uses that |
| 23:47 |
jojoa1997 |
is imagegick on ubuntu by default |
| 23:48 |
Mossmanikin |
jojoa1997: hm... used it for a couple of days, but prefer the original textures most of the time |
| 23:49 |
Evergreen |
Here you go: convert image.png -resize 32x32 resized_image.png |
| 23:50 |
Evergreen |
Also, can't remember how to do that automatically, I suppose you could use a basth script to do tha |
| 23:50 |
Evergreen |
(for a bunch of images that is) |
| 23:50 |
Evergreen |
*that |
| 23:50 |
Evergreen |
I'm pretty sure imagemagick is default for ubuntu |
| 23:51 |
jojoa1997 |
what does the resized_image.png mean |
| 23:52 |
JackGruff |
the name you want the resulting file to be |
| 23:52 |
Evergreen |
The name of the resized image |
| 23:52 |
Evergreen |
*ninja'd |
| 23:53 |
jojoa1997 |
ok it works but how do i make it not lose sharp edges |
| 23:55 |
Mossmanikin |
Is there an option saying something like "next neighbour"? |
| 23:55 |
JackGruff |
why don't you grab them from her higher res releases? |
| 23:55 |
jojoa1997 |
i am using terminal |
| 23:56 |
jojoa1997 |
this is for overcraft_origins |
| 23:59 |
Mossmanikin |
Don't get why when resizing a pic the output is blured by default... |
