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00:01 * Nocte pokes zat
00:02 zat my pc is really slow now but I wil check it
00:02 zat and if I like it I wil make it lolol
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00:18 Nocte Going to bed. Later all.
00:36 cy1 Someone want to tell me why minetest sits around for a minute saying "Item textures..." when I'm connecting to a server on my LAN?
00:36 cy1 Seriously it's still going.
00:37 cy1 Every time I connect.
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00:37 ndjdjksisksk how many mods do you ave on there
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00:49 ndjdjksisksk hi people that have joined the minetest chanel
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00:56 ndjdjksisksk hi'
00:56 ndjdjksisksk hi
00:56 ndjdjksisksk hi
00:56 ndjdjksisksk hi
00:56 ndjdjksisksk hi
00:56 ndjdjksisksk hi
00:56 ndjdjksisksk hi
00:56 ndjdjksisksk was kicked by ShadowBot: Repetition flood detected.
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00:57 ndjdjksisksk hi
00:57 ndjdjksisksk was kicked by ShadowBot: Repetition flood detected.
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00:58 ndjdjksisksk um i am kicked for saying hi
00:58 ndjdjksisksk wtf
00:58 zat repeatedly D:
00:58 us}0gb Yes.
00:58 ndjdjksisksk lol
00:58 ndjdjksisksk i know
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00:58 ndjdjksisksk just no one was responding
00:58 arsdragonfly ?
00:58 ndjdjksisksk i was talking and no one responded
00:59 us}0gb You were asking cy1, so I stayed out of it.
01:00 * arsdragonfly is checkin' out the log
01:00 ndjdjksisksk um what?
01:00 ndjdjksisksk no
01:00 ndjdjksisksk i as not asking cy1 anything?
01:00 ndjdjksisksk oh ecept for the mod thing
01:00 Peacock get out, and take your dishonour with you
01:00 us}0gb <ndjdjksisksk> how many mods do you ave on there
01:00 ndjdjksisksk yep i remember
01:00 ndjdjksisksk sorry
01:01 ndjdjksisksk sorry
01:01 zat ndjdjksisksk: the question of the mods was for me?
01:01 ndjdjksisksk um i have no idea
01:01 ndjdjksisksk and no this is not dishonor
01:01 ndjdjksisksk sorry if it seemed likr that
01:01 * arsdragonfly is enjoying a 7-day-long bank holiday
01:02 ndjdjksisksk (i fail)
01:02 arsdragonfly it's so silent today :-)
01:02 Peacock thats aiight, the americans are enjoying a gov't holiday :P
01:02 ndjdjksisksk lol
01:03 ndjdjksisksk well no one on irc likes me so bye
01:03 ndjdjksisksk :(
01:03 zat :c
01:03 ndjdjksisksk :'(
01:03 zat I am american and I am not enjoying anything
01:03 zat you probably meant USAns.
01:03 ndjdjksisksk i am not racist lol
01:04 ndjdjksisksk if that is whta you menat
01:04 ndjdjksisksk (i have no idea)
01:04 arsdragonfly usually i can't see you talking unless i stay up late
01:04 arsdragonfly due to timezone
01:05 Peacock when i stay up late, i see dead people
01:06 us}0gb When I look to the left, I see dead people.
01:06 Peacock they could just be deranged hallucinations though
01:06 us}0gb I'm looking for a place to stash them.
01:06 Peacock up n'arth
01:07 us}0gb I wish I was watching the chat when ndjdjksisksk said no one liked him/her ...
01:09 Peacock im ready to visit the alternate universe: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7803823360/h1D688422/
01:11 harrison not that many people on irc like me and you don't hear me complaining like a little b*****
01:11 Peacock since when do gamers not bitch?
01:12 us}0gb You hear me doing it every time the developers add another "feature" that worsens the game.
01:12 Peacock the only reason gamers tend to be misogynistic is because they don't like the competition :P
01:13 us}0gb What? I'm not misogynistic.
01:13 Peacock ogb: thats an oss-specific thing, like unity and pulseaudio lol
01:13 Peacock ogb: wasn't talking about you specifically :P
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01:14 ndjdjksisksk hi
01:14 ndjdjksisksk i am back
01:14 arsdragonfly interesting: you don't hear me complaining like a little b***** can be : I am complaining like a little b***** and you don't hear me / you're like little b*****s and ignore me
01:14 zat I do agree with all of you.
01:15 Peacock i disagree and move for a motion of no-confidence
01:16 dafull97 wow, argue much?
01:17 ndjdjksisksk doh man
01:18 ndjdjksisksk oh man
01:18 ndjdjksisksk people
01:18 ndjdjksisksk why argue
01:18 Peacock only in honorable combat, with bat'leths
01:18 ndjdjksisksk O_O
01:19 Peacock if anyone takes what i say seriously then obviously a lobotomy wouldn't do much damage
01:20 zat hi
01:23 ndjdjksisksk hi zat
01:23 ndjdjksisksk ugh lag
01:24 zat hi
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01:47 dafull97 !up 5.231.69.196 30000
01:47 MinetestBot 5.231.69.196:30000 seems to be down
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01:58 AWTom I'm never going to finish this English assignment... three times I've lost hours of work because some key combination closes lxterminal. Google doesn't seem to know how to keep it from happening
02:00 AWTom I turned off the vim files that are supposed to keep that from happening because they filled my directories with files
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02:07 arsdragonfly auto-saving?
02:08 cy1 preload_item_visuals = false
02:08 cy1 was the answer...
02:17 AWTom I'm learning so much about Vim :D
02:30 arsdragonfly why do you use vim to finish your english assignment? shouldn't it be used in code editing...
02:30 us}0gb I'm not even convinced it should be used for that.
02:32 kaeza I'm not even convinced why would anyone use vim locally
02:32 us}0gb Even remotely, nano is an easier tool to use.
02:33 khonkhortisan I use vim when I don't feel like leaving the terminal
02:33 khonkhortisan s/}/_
02:40 ShadowNinja nano is easier, but vim is much more powerfull once you learn to use it.
02:50 * Sokomine loves vim
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02:54 AWTom us}0gb: vim doesn't hinder essay-writing, and it's a good learning experience
02:55 hoodedice vim for essay writing?
02:56 us}0gb AWTom, vim doesn't hinder essay-writing any more than it hinders any other text editing.
02:56 us}0gb Though like ShadowNinja said, if you get good with it ...
03:03 ShadowNinja ascii > rtf/doc/pdf/etc. :-) At least in cases where you don't need embeded images and the like.
03:03 ShadowNinja All you need is a text editor or browser to read it.
03:04 ShadowNinja html > * When you need fancy things.
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03:05 us}0gb I agree.
03:06 us}0gb My courses unfortunately require me to use .doc/.docx, but for all my own stuff, I use .txt/.xhtml.
03:07 hoodedice I use google drive
03:08 hoodedice Because I travel frequently
03:08 ShadowNinja ^ That is nice.
03:09 Fury google drive, microsoft skydrive, box, evernote, and others
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03:13 Wuzzy Hi, how can I change the speed of an animated texture on a face of a node?
03:14 Sokomine hm, take a look at the tv from homedecor. perhaps that helps? in comparison with a normal torch
03:24 Wuzzy ah, it’s the “length” paramter.
03:24 Wuzzy And I thought it was for specifying the number of frames. lol
03:24 Wuzzy Problem solved!
03:28 * NekoGloop pets Fuzzy Wuzzy
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03:32 cy1 https://github.com/cyisfor/inventory_sorter/
03:32 cy1 VanessaE: ^^^
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03:34 OldCoder Hi
03:35 OldCoder I am being asked... What is the total player base for MT? Number of people?
03:35 us}0gb Five.
03:35 OldCoder This has to do with new servers that may be set up
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03:35 OldCoder So be serious; somebody is waiting for my answer
03:35 OldCoder If you wish to encourage new servers that is
03:35 OldCoder Or I could just drop the matter
03:35 us}0gb Sorry, I have no way to know. We're decentralized.
03:35 OldCoder I know; looking for guestimates
03:35 OldCoder Based on known server traffic perhaps
03:36 cy1 83 people in room
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03:36 us}0gb I don't know. I'd say we're probably at least in the high three digits.
03:36 us}0gb Maybe.
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03:36 us}0gb 510?
03:37 us}0gb That's a good round number guess.
03:37 ShadowNinja OldCoder: Players on all servers combined at one time?
03:37 OldCoder Typical players over a period of time
03:37 OldCoder Say a week or a month
03:37 OldCoder 500 to 1,000 occasional players then
03:37 OldCoder Might be optimistic but achievable
03:37 ShadowNinja Hmmm, a few hundred at least.
03:38 OldCoder So 250 to 750
03:38 OldCoder Thank you!
03:40 Sokomine hi oldcoder
03:43 OldCoder Sokomine, Hi!
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03:58 hoodedice ...
04:03 * Sokomine grabs a dot from hoodedice and runs away with it
04:03 hoodedice ..
04:04 Sokomine :-)
04:04 Sokomine hi :)
04:07 hoodedice Hey
04:13 hoodedice With minetest I feel like I'm making a powerpoint presentation
04:14 hoodedice *Click* *Click* type *click* type *move* *Click* *Click* type
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04:37 hoodedice Devs?
04:37 hoodedice Fog is kinda weird
04:38 us}0gb THat's why I disable it on my client.
04:38 Miner_48er why?
04:38 hoodedice Disable fog?
04:38 hoodedice How?
04:38 us}0gb Yeah, I disable fog. And particles.
04:38 us}0gb Minetest.conf: enable_fog = false
04:39 hoodedice Miner_48er: See, when I say, put fps_wanted as 30, the fog increases or decreases the amount of nodes on screen until I get that value
04:39 Miner_48er ok
04:39 hoodedice So, the result is that the first 10 seconds or so, when you are just standing looking at something, the fps actually goes down
04:39 us}0gb But if you enable shaders in the stable version, you get fog even if you try disabling it in minetest.conf. In that case, hit F3 when you enter the game, but every time you enter, you'll need to disable it with F3 again.
04:40 hoodedice because it is calculating the amount of view_distance for fps_wanted
04:40 hoodedice us}0gb: I'll try that
04:40 us}0gb The other cool setting is "show_debug = true".
04:41 us}0gb No more hitting F5 to see coordinates.
04:41 hoodedice Why would I want that? lol
04:42 hoodedice Much better now, thanks us}0gb
04:42 us}0gb Yeah, no problem.
04:42 us}0gb WHich junk, show_debug or enable_fog?
04:42 hoodedice Although it still looks weird, but the horrible fps pings is down at least
04:42 hoodedice enable_fog
04:43 us}0gb I think it makes the game look more professional. But disabling it makes the game more enjoyable.
04:43 hoodedice Hmm
04:44 hoodedice What was the button for max nodes again?
04:44 hoodedice max distance I mean
04:44 us}0gb If I understand what you mean, "r".
04:44 hoodedice Maximum viewing range
04:44 hoodedice Not r
04:45 us}0gb DO you mean to raise that? If yes, try "+".
04:45 us}0gb On a US keyboard, you'll need to hold shift for that to work.
04:46 hoodedice I use the NUMPAD +
04:46 us}0gb Hmm. I lack a numpad.
04:46 hoodedice It changes the minimum viewind range value
04:47 hoodedice I need to decrease max because of that node calculating thingy I said
04:47 us}0gb Decrease? Use "-".
04:47 hoodedice That's minimum viewing
04:47 hoodedice I got it
04:47 us}0gb Okay, I don't know what you mean then.
04:48 hoodedice viewing_range_nodes_max
04:48 us}0gb Okay, got it.
04:50 hoodedice Do you need to restart the game to load the conf?
04:50 hoodedice restart = CLOSE and open minetest
04:51 us}0gb Yeah, and you have to edit it while Minetest is already closed. Minetest saves the old settings to the file when it closes.
04:54 hoodedice I saw my brother playing minecraft a few days ago
04:55 hoodedice And I got one reason for it's graphics - Cheap Instagram like filters
04:56 hoodedice So
04:57 hoodedice You put a transparent image on the HUD, with only it's borders semitransparent
04:57 us}0gb I played Minecraft twice. It wasn't the game for me.
04:57 hoodedice With whatever colours you want to tint
04:57 hoodedice Voila, cheap, non-fps dropping GFX that will surely receive WOAHs
04:58 hoodedice Now is there any way to mod the HUD?
04:59 kaeza yes
05:00 kaeza grep 'hud' lua_api.txt
05:00 hoodedice What should I look at in lua_api?
05:00 kaeza ...how about "HUD" ?
05:00 hoodedice lol found it
05:01 hoodedice Thank God (and other people) for Ctrl+F
05:25 us}0gb Does Minetest have explosions now? I'm seeing an on_blast() callback that is set off in the case of an explosion.
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05:40 hoodedice Bah I don't get it
05:42 hoodedice What is this Definition Tables thingy?
05:43 us}0gb They hold node definitions and other definitions.
05:44 us}0gb Basically, if it's defined in Lua and passed to a registration function, it's probably in one of those tables.
05:44 hoodedice ?
05:44 hoodedice still blank
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05:45 us}0gb minetest.regiseter_node("plugin:node", {}) would upt plugin:node in one of those tables.
05:45 us}0gb *put
05:46 hoodedice ok, leav that
05:46 hoodedice How do I go about gettng the syntax for modding
05:47 us}0gb Do you mean the Lua syntax? Google "Lua syntax".
05:51 hoodedice us}0gb: You free now?
05:53 us}0gb It depends on how free you need me to be. I'm working on homework, but I can chat here and there.
05:53 hoodedice hmm. brb
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06:02 hoodedice Back.
06:02 hoodedice Okay, lemme say this: I have little to no programming xp
06:02 hoodedice So I might ask stupid questions
06:02 hoodedice *WILL ask
06:03 us}0gb Well, you're not going to ba able to do much without learning basic Lua. I'd start there.
06:03 hoodedice Q1: minetest.register_
06:03 us}0gb *be
06:04 hoodedice If I'm registering a node, I write _node, and for entities, _entity
06:04 hoodedice So, for HUD, _hud
06:05 us}0gb I know nothing about the HUD.
06:05 hoodedice https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L461
06:06 hoodedice Lemme tell you this. Making nodes isn't hard because there is plenty of examples floating around. Not the same schist with HUDs or other stuff
06:06 hoodedice Isn't the style of coding same for all elements?
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06:10 Hunterz please where is stored setting osf server, if mod do for example this? minetest.setting_set("static_spawnpoint", minetest.pos_to_string(pos))
06:10 Hunterz after restart server there no this variable set :(
06:16 us}0gb THe server reads its settings from minetest.conf.
06:17 us}0gb hoodedice, not many have explored that territory yet.
06:17 hoodedice Yes, but all Help I need from you is just an explanation of ( , and {
06:17 hoodedice When and why do I use those?
06:17 us}0gb Those are a part of Lua.
06:18 hoodedice Cool
06:18 us}0gb To understand them, you need to research Lua. Parens are used for function calls and curly brackets are used for tables.
06:18 hoodedice okaaaa.
06:18 hoodedice y
06:23 hoodedice I GOT IT!
06:23 hoodedice (Why it wasn't working)
06:25 us}0gb I don't know. I don't know what you're seeing or what your code is.
06:26 hoodedice I finally solved problem 1: It wasn't detecting the init.lua
06:26 hoodedice Because Windows.
06:26 us}0gb Ah. So the solution is to remove Windows, got it.
06:27 hoodedice Indeed
06:27 hoodedice (init.lua.txt Fudge my donkey, Bill Gates)
06:28 us}0gb Ha ha. I hate hidden extensions and Windows, but I feel obligated to tell you that there is technically a way to make it quit hiding them without switching.
06:28 hoodedice I did switch to Xubuntu
06:29 us}0gb Oh, okay, good.
06:29 hoodedice This is my brother's PC. So I don't ess around with it
06:29 hoodedice *mess
06:29 us}0gb Yeah .... I'd love to Trisquel my mother's computer, but I don't dare.
06:31 hoodedice OMG https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6342
06:31 hoodedice Time for copy paste
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06:34 hoodedice I finally understand  almost everything I needed to
06:34 hoodedice lol
06:34 us}0gb Awesome!
06:36 khonkhortisan init.lua.txt? Kill it with fire!
06:36 * khonkhortisan aims a high-powered electromatic laser at the notepad bits
06:36 us}0gb I'm trying but it won't die!
06:38 khonkhortisan I always make it stop hiding, and go single-click, and blame the admin for disabling task manager, and add middle-mouse-paste, and get access to the terminal when it's blocked, and...
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06:39 hoodedice root?
06:39 us}0gb Does Windows even have a root?
06:40 khonkhortisan I gave my mother's laptop an admin user called root
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06:41 hoodedice It does
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06:47 hoodedice Calinou
06:48 Calinou hi :)
06:48 hoodedice Does this https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L461 work?
06:49 Calinou don't know, I never used it
06:49 hoodedice Well, can you at least understand what it is supposed to do?
06:49 kaeza us}0gb, depends on what you mean by "root"
06:50 us}0gb kaeza, fair enough.
06:50 hoodedice Can it cover the entire screen with "image"?
06:50 us}0gb Basically the user is root.
06:50 Calinou I think it can...
06:50 kaeza us}0gb, as superuser, usually "Administrator" (possibly localized)
06:50 hoodedice Thanks Calinou
06:51 hoodedice There is a SU in Windows XP
06:51 hoodedice Press F8 just before booting
06:51 hoodedice *Get to Safe Mode
06:51 kaeza so F8 installs Linux? :P
06:52 us}0gb I wish.
06:52 hoodedice No, you get to access the SU
06:52 hoodedice in XP
06:52 * us}0gb would trick so many people into hitting F8 ....
06:52 hoodedice Another Administrator account
06:52 hoodedice Which has greater powers than the normal admin
06:53 khonkhortisan This is on an XP: 1) press control-alt-delete to make sure task manager works. 2) start cmd.exe 3) type "reg add hkcu\software\microsoft\windows​\currentversion\policies\system /v disabletaskmgr /t REG_DWORD /d 1 /f" without the quotes. 4) enjoy the misdirected blame 5) re-run the same command, changing the 1 into a 0.
06:53 hoodedice (Removing passwords etc)
06:53 hoodedice :|
06:53 khonkhortisan "Task Manager has been disabled by your administrator." But I only changed user settings.
06:53 hoodedice Registries *Cue the History channel meme*
06:54 khonkhortisan Does windows 8 no longer have registries?
06:54 hoodedice No. Just visualise the face of the dude in the meme
06:54 hoodedice And say registries.
06:55 khonkhortisan hehe he has an accent
06:56 hoodedice http://pastebin.com/3pt6WkX7
06:57 hoodedice (Seems legit)
06:57 hoodedice (But still doesn't work)
06:57 kaeza wat
06:57 khonkhortisan custom_hud isn't inside hud{...should it be?...}
06:58 hoodedice ?
06:59 kaeza hoodedice, why are there 2 end statements when there's only one block?
06:59 kaeza indenting code helps a lot
06:59 kaeza +too
06:59 hoodedice I wasn't sure how many "end"s I needed. To ensure that the program actually ended
06:59 Calinou khonkhortisan: it does
06:59 khonkhortisan the first end is the bad one
07:00 khonkhortisan just based on the indentation, that is
07:00 hoodedice The indent is wrong?
07:00 hoodedice This code is based off of BlockMan's. Sorta.
07:00 kaeza also, another tip: hud funcs don't work if called immediately after player joins
07:00 khonkhortisan there should only be one end, with no indent (so it's at the same level as local function)
07:01 hoodedice How do I change the player_call time then?
07:02 hoodedice khonkhortisan: http://pastebin.com/rqBvHnBZ
07:04 hoodedice Fact: The website value of minetest.net is nearly $7000
07:04 khonkhortisan I would also personally unindent the })     I haven't touched the hud since it was added (nor before then)
07:04 us}0gb Nice!
07:04 hoodedice Which })
07:05 khonkhortisan the only })
07:05 us}0gb How do we know the monetary value of the site?
07:05 khonkhortisan traffic?
07:05 hoodedice Unindent one step or all?
07:05 hoodedice Pastebin's sister site
07:06 khonkhortisan one step, so it's equal with player:hud_add
07:06 hoodedice http://hostcabi.net/domain/minetest.net
07:06 hoodedice Okay
07:07 khonkhortisan I'd like to have an extra $9 a day
07:09 hoodedice '}' expected (to close '{' at line 4) near 'image'
07:09 khonkhortisan ?
07:09 khonkhortisan OH
07:09 khonkhortisan you have no comma after position
07:09 hoodedice http://pastebin.com/jYALDz9M
07:09 hoodedice ...okay.
07:10 hoodedice DAMN lol
07:10 khonkhortisan so easy to miss
07:10 hoodedice No errors now...
07:11 hoodedice But look like my lil experiment failed or something
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07:13 kaeza soo...
07:13 kaeza when do you actually call custom_hud() ?
07:13 khonkhortisan ^
07:15 hoodedice See BlockMan's Bteer HUD
07:15 hoodedice *Better
07:15 kaeza ._.
07:15 hoodedice The code was err inspired by that
07:16 hoodedice But I wanted to (learn_the_code)
07:16 kaeza you did not answer my question
07:16 hoodedice So I rewrote it
07:16 hoodedice I wanted to see if it was possible to overlay an image on the screen
07:17 hoodedice http://irc.minetest.ru/min​etest/2013-10-03#i_3355113
07:17 hoodedice In Blockmen's he called costum_hud () instead
07:17 hoodedice costum NOT custom
07:17 kaeza ...
07:18 kaeza [04:13:04] <kaeza> when do you actually call custom_hud() ?
07:18 hoodedice Dude...
07:18 hoodedice IDK.
07:18 kaeza nice...
07:18 hoodedice I tried to grip whatever I needed to get the job done
07:19 kaeza well, your custom hud will neder show if the code never executes
07:19 kaeza never*
07:19 hoodedice Yes. I see that
07:19 hoodedice You said something about not executing on player_join
07:19 kaeza yes
07:19 kaeza you have to delay it a bit with minetest.after()
07:20 hoodedice Hmm
07:20 hoodedice I should add that at line 1. Make sure it's the first thing that gets processed
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07:20 hoodedice Weird. Bloackman's code didn't have anything like that
07:22 hoodedice Nope. There is a bunch of code here. lol.
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07:24 hoodedice minetest.after(timeisinseconds?
07:26 khonkhortisan https://github.com/minetest/minetes​t/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1394
07:26 VanessaE hi all
07:26 hoodedice Thanks
07:26 hoodedice Hi VanessaE
07:26 khonkhortisan hi
07:26 us}0gb Hello!
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07:31 hoodedice New version for y'all to debug
07:31 hoodedice http://pastebin.com/ApjZir3q
07:32 khonkhortisan you have both "end end)" and "end) end"
07:32 hoodedice I see that
07:33 hoodedice Yes. But should I remove both the brackets?
07:33 hoodedice Or add to both
07:33 khonkhortisan go with end) end
07:33 khonkhortisan I think?
07:33 khonkhortisan umm
07:33 khonkhortisan oh, "end) end)"
07:33 khonkhortisan one for after, the other for register
07:33 hoodedice No Both ends should have brackets
07:33 khonkhortisan yeah
07:33 hoodedice Ya
07:34 hoodedice But another prob now
07:34 hoodedice wait
07:34 hoodedice hide_builtin is a nil value
07:34 hoodedice On attempt to call global
07:34 khonkhortisan right, you haven't created that function
07:35 hoodedice Yes. Got it.
07:37 hoodedice I don' need hide builtin. Removing
07:40 hoodedice New Version: http://pastebin.com/BV9vgTQZ
07:41 hoodedice Game exits to menu after five seconds and then complains that custom_hud is a nil value
07:41 hoodedice damn. Blockman.
07:41 khonkhortisan costum again
07:41 hoodedice yeah lol
07:42 hoodedice Yes, it worked - No Errors.
07:42 hoodedice No it didn't work - hud didn't show up
07:43 hoodedice kaeza
07:44 khonkhortisan Did the original hud disappear? Does hud2.png exist and it didn't say it failed to load it? Does it take more than 5 seconds to fully join the server?
07:44 hoodedice wait.
07:44 kaeza hoodedice
07:45 hoodedice Q1. No. Q2. Exists, no. Q3 No.
07:45 hoodedice Kaeza, here;s the code http://pastebin.com/nrTCMJei
07:46 kaeza hoodedice, that looks better
07:46 kaeza the on_respawn stuff isn't needed tho'
07:46 hoodedice Thank you and khonkhortisan
07:46 hoodedice Okay.
07:48 hoodedice Image doesn't show up, yet
07:48 hoodedice Spews no errors either
07:48 kaeza lower up a bit the delay
07:49 kaeza 5 seconds looks like too much
07:49 hoodedice 0.5
07:49 khonkhortisan from lua_api.txt: "Left corner position of element" I can think of two left corners on an image
07:49 khonkhortisan robocode has a flipped y axis
07:51 kaeza blame kwolekr/hmmmm :P
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07:52 hoodedice Nope?
07:53 kaeza yepe
07:53 hoodedice wut?
07:53 kaeza even 0.1 works
07:54 hoodedice 0.1 of my mod?
07:54 kaeza :?
07:54 hoodedice *my/Blockman/kaeza/khonkhortisan
07:54 kaeza what are we talking about? :I
07:54 hoodedice Nothing
07:55 khonkhortisan Night
07:55 kaeza night khon
07:55 hoodedice Thanks
07:55 hoodedice Bye
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08:14 hoodedice So...
08:15 hoodedice ...I'll go wash the dishes.
08:15 hoodedice Or something
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08:48 JamesTait Good morning all; happy Virus Appreciation Day! :-D
08:51 sfan5 kittens
08:51 sfan5 many kittens
08:51 sfan5 hi every1
08:55 JamesTait Hi sfan5. :)
08:55 JamesTait Do kittens count as a virus?
08:55 sfan5 no
08:56 JamesTait I mean, they're small and infectious, but...
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09:12 cy1 I need a mesecon circuit that goes on immediately, and goes off after a delay. Any ideas?
09:14 cy1 I tried having a parallel delayer and a direct circuit, with the idea the delayer would keep it on for a while, but when it went on the direct circuit would have no delay. That of course doesn't work because of feedback.
09:15 cy1 The delayer feeds back through the direct circuit for a while, which tells the delayer it's still fully powered.
09:15 cy1 So using a diode would be ideal in that case. But when I put a parallel diode (to prevent feedback) and a delayer, suddenly the delayer didn't delay at all, even when shutting off!
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09:18 arsdragonfly /--delayers--\
09:19 cy1 arsdragonfly: ?
09:19 arsdragonfly start--          T-flip flop
09:20 arsdragonfly \--direct line--/
09:20 arsdragonfly didn't count the number of spaces
09:21 arsdragonfly wish you could understand that graph though :P
09:21 cy1 Oh, a T-flip flop in there, so three parallel circuits?
09:21 cy1 Two direct and one delayed hm...
09:22 arsdragonfly the two parallel circuits connect to the input of T-flip flop
09:23 arsdragonfly when the signal go through the direct line and reaches the T-flip flop it's on
09:24 arsdragonfly when another signal go through delayers it's off again
09:24 cy1 That would only keep it on for a brief interval..
09:25 cy1 Oh right.
09:25 arsdragonfly w8... s/T-flip flop/XOR gate
09:25 cy1 I totally said that wrong.
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09:27 cy1 I need a mesecon circuit that when input goes from off to on, it goes on immediately. when input goes from on to off, it stays on for a delay, then goes off.
09:27 cy1 Not a pulse circuit.
09:28 arsdragonfly still very easy
09:28 arsdragonfly s/XOR gate/OR gate
09:28 arsdragonfly :P
09:29 Nocte What's up?
09:30 cy1 yeah that's what I did arsdragonfly. didn't work so well. Let me get a diagram... might just be a bug!
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09:33 arsdragonfly I suggest you use an OR gate instead of connecting then together / using 2 diodes... the inputs are simply separated
09:33 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
09:34 arsdragonfly hey Pilz
09:35 PilzAdam !tw githubstatus
09:35 MinetestBot The site is unavailable as we investigate issues reaching http://GitHub.com. (@githubstatus)
09:37 * arsdragonfly can't get OpenSpades work on Linux
09:38 PilzAdam do you have troubles compiling?
09:39 arsdragonfly unable to run "sudo make install",and can't get the compiled binary to work either
09:40 arsdragonfly it says "missing Gfx/HurtSprite.png" when trying to connect to any server
09:40 PilzAdam copy the Resources/ folder to ~/.openspades/
09:41 PilzAdam then get the packages from PakLocation.txt and place them in that Resource folder
09:41 PilzAdam and then you can manually copy the binary to /usr/bin/ or whatever if you want
09:43 arsdragonfly besides that, it complains about some framebuffer stuff when trying to run in fullscreen mode
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09:44 Nocte Hmm.
09:44 Nocte What to do. :|
09:44 arsdragonfly it runs fine on windows though, beating the **** off Jagex's butt :P
09:48 Nocte I wish I knew some good horror movie to watch since its October and all that.
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10:00 cy1 https://critter.allowed.org/stuff/mes​econs%20delay%20circuit%20problem.svg
10:01 cy1 I'll try an OR gate...
10:01 cy1 ...later
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10:10 Nocte Hmm.
10:11 Nocte Its funny that I found a good amount of ore under my house in Minetest. :p
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10:16 cy1 Nocte: Which server?
10:16 cy1 ohgoditsolate
10:16 Nocte Singleplayer one.
10:18 Nocte The wall is almost finished! :D
10:18 cy1 ooh I see.
10:18 cy1 Nocte: Any mods?
10:18 Nocte Hmm...
10:18 Nocte Moreores moreblocks I think.
10:18 Nocte And uh.. Homedecor?
10:19 Nocte I don't remember if I had any others.
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10:19 Nocte I'm just building this wall out of standard cobblestone.
10:21 Nocte And I did the battlements from stairs. :P
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10:22 Nocte Damn it, now I have to go and get some more stone. :[
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10:25 VanessaE good morning :)
10:26 Nocte Now only the gate needs to be done. :D
10:32 Nocte The wall is finished!
10:35 Nocte What's up VanessaE?
10:35 VanessaE not much
10:35 Nocte Ugh, so many caves around my house. :|
10:35 Nocte Its like, move couple blocks and you are inside a cave.
10:37 Nocte I should go eat something now. :|
10:38 * VanessaE offers some generic "ranch flavor" tortilla chips
10:39 paramat ranches taste good!
10:39 VanessaE paramat: "only" 8 seconds per chunk?  you can do better ;)
10:39 VanessaE also hi :0
10:39 VanessaE :)
10:40 paramat hi! with LVM it could be faster
10:40 VanessaE I'm just poking fun :)
10:41 Nocte Tortilla chips. Hah, those will never beat a pizza. ;)
10:41 VanessaE pizza...ick
10:41 paramat heh cool
10:41 VanessaE I used to love it, now I don't really care much for it
10:41 Nocte Heh.
10:43 Nocte What should I do next for the house btw? :p
10:43 Nocte It already has walls.
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10:47 john_minetest Hello everypony
10:49 Exio4 github down :(
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10:51 jojoa1997 Hello
10:51 Nocte What should I add to my house? It already has a mine beneath it and walls around it.
10:52 VanessaE hi
10:52 jojoa1997 A drawbridge
10:52 JamesTait An orchard.
10:52 JamesTait And grazing land for animals.
10:53 Nocte I don't have animal mods in this. :|
10:54 VanessaE morning john
10:55 JamesTait It's probably less important that they have land to graze then.  I don't think imaginary animals have big appetites. ;)
10:55 jojoa1997 Maybe a forge
10:56 JamesTait I like to have a couple of lockable boxes around for various bits and bobs too.
11:00 Nocte Hehe.
11:00 Nocte The mine is basically my basement.
11:10 Nocte Hmm.
11:10 Nocte Is there a way to rotate blocks?
11:11 VanessaE screwdriver
11:11 VanessaE but that only works for blocks that support rotation
11:11 VanessaE ("facedir")
11:12 jojoa1997 So quiet
11:12 Nocte Hmm. How do I use the flight thing? :p and I see... :|
11:12 VanessaE it's onyl 7:12am. :)
11:13 VanessaE Nocte: press 'k' to enable it.  then use WASD/E/space to fly around
11:13 Nocte Its 14:13 now. ;)
11:13 VanessaE if you can't enable it,   /grant singleplayer all    and try again
11:13 VanessaE (assumign you're playing single-player locally)
11:14 Nocte So many islands. o.o
11:16 john_minetest Exio4: github up
11:16 VanessaE finally
11:16 * VanessaE runs her update mods script..
11:17 Nocte What types of maps do you guys prefer? :p
11:17 VanessaE oh of course
11:18 jojoa1997 I prefer
11:18 VanessaE github's being DDoS'd again.
11:18 jojoa1997 What is ddos'd
11:18 jojoa1997 And nocte make an adventure map since minetest oeant have any good ones.
11:19 Nocte That would take toooooo much time.
11:19 VanessaE DDoS = Distributed Denial of Service attack
11:20 VanessaE meaning a shitload of computers are attempting to connect to github with the sole purpose of making the site unavailable to legit users
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11:37 * arsdragonfly is setting up debian on his quadcore Samsung Galaxy S3
11:42 Nocte Hm.
11:47 Nocte Ouch, I have like 11,3 hours of Metal songs in my laptop. Every one of them is legally bought and ripped from a CD. o.o
11:51 john_minetest I have some songs from tonspion.de (legal site for downloading music for free) on my computer. But only like 1 hour.
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11:53 VanessaE all my music these days comes from youtube :P
11:53 arsdragonfly is it legal to rip off music from youtube there?
11:54 VanessaE nope
11:54 VanessaE but I'll do it anyway, fuck them
11:54 Nocte Seems like you don't want to support the artist. :p
11:55 VanessaE actually it may be legal
11:55 VanessaE Nocte: all the artists I could choose to support are dead.
11:55 Nocte Oh. o.o
11:55 VanessaE or most are anyway
11:55 VanessaE I don't listen to modern music.
11:55 VanessaE (with some exceptions)
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11:56 Nocte Last three albums I got: King of Asgard - Fi'mbulvintr, Testament - Souls of Black, Testament - The New Order.
11:56 arsdragonfly https://db.tt/QPbtyAO6
11:56 Nocte Testament is still alive and its a band from 80s.
11:56 Nocte And King of Asgard is a new-ish band.
11:56 arsdragonfly not bad at all :P
11:56 dafull97 hey guys
11:57 Nocte Also: Overkill is also making new music and is from 80s.. :D
11:57 Nocte Both are great stuff...
11:59 Nocte Also: I like physical stuff. :D
11:59 IceCraft hi
12:01 dafull97 us{0gb you here?
12:01 Nocte There's still some great modern stuff going on in the Metal genre.
12:02 Nocte Not so much from what I've heard in the Rock, Pop and other. ;)
12:03 dafull97 Nocte, i like Techno and Dubstep, some rock
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12:05 Nocte Not too much into Electronic stuff, from what I've heard Ambient is nice.
12:06 Hunterz is possible write mod, which allow connect player to server by kicking another player ? (something like reserved slots for admins etc.)
12:06 Hunterz if server full
12:06 Nocte Lots of the electronic music sounds just too similar to one another.
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12:37 Nocte What mods make Minetest more closer to Minecraft? :p
12:40 Nocte So much Iron. o.o
12:43 Nocte Woot! 45 Iron lumps. :D
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12:51 paramat hi hmmmm, i added my paragen mod 8 biome system to the stone of 0.4.7 MGV7, gen time per chunk 8-16 sec (non-vmanip), screens: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=112913#p112913
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13:03 Nocte FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUuu**** Almost ruined my mine with lava. :|
13:07 Nocte Mese crystals. o.o
13:12 Nocte Fricking lava pits and caves ruining my mine. :|
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13:14 Nocte Oh wow, I got a ton of cobblestone now. :|
13:16 john_minetest Nocte: Try the MC4MT texture pack
13:17 Nocte (I meant, with the features and all that stuff that is missing from Minetest.)
13:20 dafull97 Quote of the Day: "The early bird may get the worm, the second mouse gets the cheese"
13:20 dafull97 =D
13:35 Nocte Lol, I got 100+ Steel Ignots. :D
13:37 * arsdragonfly sold 10 stacks of iron ingots for 10 stacks of wood lasy night
13:37 arsdragonfly last*
13:49 Nocte Heh, what server are you playing in?
13:57 arsdragonfly Nocte : Landrush
13:58 Nocte I can't find it on Public Server List. :P
13:59 arsdragonfly landrush.bremaweb.com this is the website
13:59 arsdragonfly sometimes it has more players than others' add up together
14:00 arsdragonfly https://db.tt/Tm7Hvyfi
14:00 arsdragonfly not bad at all :P
14:02 Nocte Hmm.
14:02 Nocte Can I join that server? :p
14:03 Nocte BTW, does the server count playful pranking as 'Griefing'?
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14:04 Nocte (As in, no real harm done from it.)
14:07 Nocte arsdragonfly, also last question: Is it Survival or more Creative?
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14:16 arsdragonfly It's survival,and if you attempt to grief you'll die /be banned
14:16 arsdragonfly automatically :P
14:16 Nocte Heh.
14:16 Nocte So no shutting doors in front of other people? ;)
14:17 arsdragonfly As long as you claim your land with land claim blocks,it's safe
14:17 Nocte Can you claim as much land as possible with those blocks?
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14:22 Nocte sfan5, so you host the Hunger Games server?
14:22 sfan5 yes
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14:23 Nocte It would be fun to try out. :P
14:26 Nocte We would probably need a lot of people to make it fun.
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14:29 * Nocte pokes people for interest. :
14:29 Nocte :D*
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14:32 arsdragonfly !up 101.245.250.112
14:33 MinetestBot 101.245.250.112:30000 seems to be down
14:33 Nocte Would any of you guys be interested?
14:33 arsdragonfly !up 101.245.250.112:30000
14:33 MinetestBot arsdragonfly: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
14:33 arsdragonfly !up 101.245.250.112 30000
14:33 MinetestBot 101.245.250.112:30000 seems to be down
14:34 Nocte Hehe. What are you doing?
14:34 TheLastProject I wonder if there's any sane reason to not just accept both syntax variations
14:34 arsdragonfly weird :(
14:35 * arsdragonfly just got a record-setting 1156ms when he sent that command privately to MinetestBot
14:36 arsdragonfly The delay has doubled since I changed the ISP
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14:38 Hunterz pleahe which mod can make mt map?
14:40 Krock minetest mapper
14:40 Krock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2896
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14:42 VanessaE Exio4: around?
14:44 Hunterz thanks
14:46 Exio4 3yes?
14:46 Exio4 -3
14:46 Exio4 i'm @ droid
14:47 Exio4 so i can bbl at any time
14:48 Krock hmm why i can't join landrush server anymore?
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14:49 Nocte Hmm... I wish there was enough people for 6 player Hunger Games. :p
14:50 fairiestoy Krock, are you sure? Nobody else (except brandon atm) has problems
14:50 Krock "Connecting to Server" keeps staying on the screen but the playername is shown up at landrush website o.o
14:50 Exio4 VanessaE: ?
14:50 fairiestoy What username krock?
14:51 Krock Nobody900824
14:51 VanessaE Exio4: wasn't it your change to remove FPS from the title bar of the window?
14:51 fairiestoy Strange, your are timing out all the time
14:51 Krock lol??
14:51 Exio4 nope
14:52 VanessaE oh.  wonder who that was then
14:53 Nocte Hmm... sfan5, can I go around the server and explore? :p
14:53 fairiestoy Eeh Krock, wait a sec, the server just shut down
14:53 Krock k
14:54 Exio4 i did the change for testing it an didn't get a super fps boost
14:55 us}0gb So if FPS isn't in the title bar, where is it now?
14:56 VanessaE do you remember it?
14:56 VanessaE us}0gb: it still is, I suggest it be moved to the F5 display
14:56 VanessaE it's already present in the F6 display but is somewhat inconvenient there.
14:56 us}0gb Okay, got it.
14:57 PilzAdam VanessaE, the FPS boost depends on your window manage
14:57 Krock lol fairiestoy, i can join but alot other players time out
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14:57 us}0gb Yeah, that's incontinent.
14:57 fairiestoy Funny, now i am unable to join x)
14:57 Timoteo same here
14:57 Krock hey timo, i'm nobody ;)
14:57 PilzAdam you should consider changing your window manager if it decreases your FPS like this
14:57 Krock i left..let's see if i was the reason
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14:59 Krock "Could not open file of texture:" that's the reason why nobody can connect i think
14:59 fairiestoy Krock: thats  normal and can be ignored
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14:59 Krock ah..just that error only happens when i can't connect
14:59 Krock lol
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14:59 xiong Krock, there are almost an unlimited number of reasons why a server may not connect.
14:59 us}0gb I have probably twelve missing textures in my test world and can connect anyway.
14:59 VanessaE PilzAdam: in my case it costs a couple of fps at least.
15:00 VanessaE not enough for me to change wm's but the window title bar is NOT the place for a fps display!
15:00 fairiestoy xiong: We can connect, but are not getting response related to media and anything else
15:00 xiong Yes, that's what I see. I meant in the broader sense.
15:00 VanessaE the title of the program is "Minetest", not "Minetest 27fps"
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15:00 us}0gb Hmm. You do have a point, VanessaE.
15:01 xiong I agree, putting extra info in the titlebar is strictly a dev option.
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15:01 Timoteo hmm I get a destination port unreachable with wireshark... maybe 2 servers running on the same port?
15:01 xiong The title of the window should be, by default, 'Minetest', without qualification.
15:01 Timoteo well "trying to"
15:01 sfan5 Nocte: hm?
15:02 xiong I'd go so far as to say that anything else in the titlebar should simply be a command line option: --title="foo"
15:02 fairiestoy Timo: Maybe the restart script messed things up
15:02 sfan5 if you want to explore the map just download the default one from the hungry_games topic and load it in SP
15:03 Timoteo oh.. wait.. eventually it starts to send the same messages over and over again
15:03 Timoteo lots of "Empty."
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15:04 fairiestoy Timoteo: anyway, we need more info from brandon to know whats going on. We can't do anything for now except waiting :3
15:09 xiong Ha. This is what happens when you kick BR some Cash Money. Whatever script that invokes hasn't been used in so long, it detonates the server.
15:10 fairiestoy What are you talking about?
15:11 Timoteo I'd say its just provider troubles... enough packets eaten and the connection negotation keeps starting over and over again or something like that
15:12 fairiestoy btw Timoteo, i was able to join. It took long, but its possible
15:12 Timoteo yea.. I got like 27-40% packetloss.. will just network lag ingame, but apparently make joining really awkward :P
15:15 fairiestoy Timoteo: Another strange thing: I was able to connect, but don't get Nisis time out or connect tries. How is that possible? Only nobodoy was shown
15:16 Krock *connects*
15:16 * Nocte is bored.
15:17 Timoteo my guess is that they are not reliably send and resend in case of packetloss, or if they are you might just not have seen it *yet*... but given that people reported not seing connect messages more than once, I go with unrealiable sending of the notification
15:19 Timoteo udp has no fallback by itself if a packet is lost... its all minetest network code trying to make sure anything gets through... usually you try to not send everything reliable and ordered or you could just use tcp anyway... so you send commands and chat reliable, and movement or direction information unreliable... you can always correct those later if they get lost... not looked into minetest network code, so that's
15:20 * Jordach finally wins
15:20 * Jordach and Jordach's girlfriend has had a bet on something happening
15:20 Jordach it finally happened
15:20 Jordach Nocte, lemme spin up the server again :D
15:20 kaeza if you know what I mean...
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15:21 kaeza hai Jordach
15:21 Jordach Nocte, 81.153.28.202 : 30000
15:21 PilzAdam Timoteo, http://dev.minetest.net/Network_Protocol
15:21 Timoteo oh, thanks :)
15:21 Jordach !up 81.153.28.202
15:21 MinetestBot 81.153.28.202:30000 is up (123ms)
15:21 fairiestoy Timoteo: Im out for now ( letting you study the network code ;) )
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15:22 Jordach btw, my server runs a lua mapgen instance :D
15:22 Krock omg i'm the only active player in landrush
15:23 pitriss Krock: nobody else is able to log in..:)
15:23 Krock yolo
15:23 Krock trolin everything
15:24 Krock ...fail at the next owned area
15:27 Krock TweekCoffee timed out.
15:28 Krock pitriss  timed out.
15:28 Krock petulka  timed out.
15:29 pitriss Krock: yeah, i decided to not torture server with trying to connect..
15:29 Krock catminer  timed out.
15:30 Krock EverHill timed out.
15:31 Hunterz is there any mod, which downloaded from server and set skins to players in the multiplayer?
15:31 PilzAdam Krock, stop spamming the channel
15:31 Krock i can't spam anymore
15:31 Krock "Access violation" kick
15:35 Jordach Nocte, 81.153.28.202 : 30000
15:35 VanessaE Exio4: do you remember the change that had to be made to remove fps from the title bar?
15:36 Nocte Hmm: Why does this text appear: Could not load mesh  because the file could not be opened?
15:36 Nocte :|
15:38 * Nocte pokes Jordach.
15:41 VanessaE some servers use remote_media via cURL.  this has some minor bugs, and that ^^^ is one such.
15:42 Nocte That sucks then. :(
15:42 us}0gb !seen Niften
15:42 MinetestBot us}0gb: niften was last seen at 2013-10-02 03:06:06 UTC on #minetest
15:43 jin_xi VanessaE: game.cpp lines 3373 and on
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15:48 VanessaE jin_xi: ah, thanks
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15:54 markveidemanis Hi
15:54 TheSprtCz hi
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16:02 us}0gb Hello!
16:02 Krock hi
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16:05 NekoGloop wazzup
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16:06 TheSprtCz Is here something like On_rightclick on tool?
16:06 PilzAdam NekoGloop, http://youtu.be/m4Z-0W8cgfE
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16:07 us}0gb TheSprtCz, I yes there is.
16:07 PilzAdam shes back
16:07 * PilzAdam hides
16:07 TheSprtCz it on_rightclick or it's called different?
16:08 PilzAdam TheSprtCz, on_place()
16:08 * NekoGloop curls up on VanessaE's lap
16:08 TheSprtCz ou thanks
16:08 mahomet !seen Calinou
16:08 MinetestBot mahomet: calinou was last seen at 2013-10-03 06:59:49 UTC on #minetest
16:09 * Calinou sees mahomet as seer
16:09 * mahomet sees Calinou as wolf
16:09 Calinou cursed
16:09 mahomet you lie, wolf, you lie
16:10 PilzAdam Im drunk
16:10 NekoGloop Does that mean you're less of an asshole now
16:10 us}0gb That explains the look on your face.
16:10 PilzAdam NekoGloop, no, it means that Im safe
16:10 PilzAdam unless there are other drunk claims
16:11 mahomet me
16:11 mahomet !vote Pilz
16:11 us}0gb Safe from what? Is someone after you? Is it VanessaE?
16:11 PilzAdam !shoot mahomet
16:11 MinetestBot mahomet, a wolf, dies from the silver bullet.
16:12 VanessaE don't look at me.  I'm not after anyone except whoever is killing my PC's performance lately :P
16:12 us}0gb Yup. THat would be PilzAdam.
16:12 * NekoGloop is curled up in VanessaE's lap
16:15 markveidemanis ...
16:16 markveidemanis I just noticed my server was up
16:16 us}0gb Gasp!
16:16 markveidemanis Anyone know anything (announcments from oldcoder)?
16:16 VanessaE yeah he's been bringing the Nexus worls back up slowly
16:16 markveidemanis He said he had the mods i gave him but its the same as before
16:17 VanessaE mostly mod and minetest core updates slowing things down
16:17 markveidemanis ok
16:17 markveidemanis But i didnt want my mods updated...
16:17 markveidemanis What i wanted from the very start was a stable world with no world-gen mods
16:18 markveidemanis How many cores would you recommend for a minetest server?
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16:18 xiong Timoteo, any luck getting back into BR-world?
16:19 fairiestoy was just about to ask the same :3
16:19 * us}0gb would recommend as many as would fit in the machine
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16:19 PilzAdam VanessaE, unstable connection or reboots?
16:19 markveidemanis 2.
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16:19 us}0gb Just make sure they're CPU cores and not apple cores. I tried the apple core thing, and ... let's just say it was a mess to clean out.
16:19 markveidemanis its 3ghz so good enough
16:19 xiong Is it the processor speed, memory, or just a tight connection to the backbone?
16:20 Timoteo xiong, fairiestoy: still got packetloss
16:20 VanessaE reboot for system updates.
16:20 fairiestoy Hmm annoying ...
16:20 VanessaE the other was just some testing.
16:20 VanessaE whole bunch of X-related updates, new kernel, some other stuff.
16:20 Timoteo xiong: it's the service provider there most likely.. can be anything from them having a customer getting ddosed to someone cutting the wrong cable
16:21 PilzAdam VanessaE, https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=113045#p113045
16:21 fairiestoy Btw timo, that valgrind tools is quite handy, if you don't forget to force stdout into a file ;P
16:21 Timoteo :)
16:21 Timoteo well as said.. ignore the graphic driver related warnings..
16:21 xiong Sorry, Tim, for the right-angle turn in topic. I was asking what goes into a "good" server, for some value of "good". Another was asking "how many cores?"
16:22 * Timoteo greps some food
16:22 Timoteo ah sorry, missunderstood you then
16:22 markveidemanis 5.81.142.201:30000
16:22 markveidemanis Testing
16:22 VanessaE PilzAdam: moved to a more appropriate thread and section.
16:22 VanessaE someone else can answer it.
16:22 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, you might want to add the IRC channelname to this: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=113048#p113048
16:22 xiong I'm trying to put together a new server with other people... and I'd like it to be better than average. I'd like to know what can be done to improve performance.
16:23 Nocte http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9gvb2z1gCg <- also this for giggles.
16:24 xiong Timoteo, are you pinging 'landrush.bremaweb.com'? I'm getting terrible ping there, 30% lost.
16:24 fairiestoy Timo: Most messages were about the sqlite3 files.
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16:27 mahomet Local Mum Discovers One Weird IP Trick For Faster Internet. The ISPs Hate Her!
16:27 rubenwardy Hi all
16:28 Nocte JORDACH!!!
16:28 * Nocte pokes.
16:29 mahomet it's not polite to poke people without their express consent Nocte
16:29 Nocte Lol.
16:30 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Done.
16:30 rubenwardy Jordach: can I poke you
16:30 rubenwardy or highlighet :P
16:32 * Nocte highlight spams rubenwardy.
16:35 * us}0gb wonders how rubenwardy expects people to get consent for highlighting people without highlighting them in the process
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16:35 rubenwardy that is the joke
16:35 rubenwardy :PPPPPPP
16:35 us}0gb It's like the "May I ask a question?" "You just did." thing.
16:36 Nocte Heh.
16:37 Nocte Best trick question? "Name a good popular Pop singer that doesn't suck." ;)
16:37 Nocte Damnit, forgot to put 'new' in there.
16:38 us}0gb Oh, I found a bug in the documentation or a bug in Minetest. I don't know which, but the two don't match. The documentation says you can leave off the image extension when referencing an image, but if you do that, Minetest complains about a missing image and cannot send it to the client.
16:38 us}0gb *image file extension
16:39 us}0gb "Suck" is a matter of opinion.
16:41 Nocte us}0gb, has there been any good pop musician (new and active) that are good in your opinion? :p
16:42 us}0gb Nocte, you're asking someone who doen't like most music.
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16:42 Nocte Wait, there are people who don't like music? O.O
16:43 us}0gb Yes, there are.
16:43 Nocte News to me.
16:43 Nocte Well, you learn new things every day then.
16:43 Timoteo xiong: yes pinging that ip, chances are you can get back on the server when that packetloss drops against 0 again
16:43 us}0gb If there's a thing, chances are, there are at least some people who don't like it.
16:44 Nocte I just wonder how some people can't like music at all. Any genre that is. :|
16:44 us}0gb Put simply, you can't please everyone.
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16:44 us}0gb For me, I love peace and quiet. Music disrupts that.
16:44 Nocte Ah.
16:45 us}0gb Also, it gets stuck in my head and drowns out the thoughts I actually want to think.
16:45 Nocte Its funny how I REALLY hate background noise (Coming from other people etc.) but love to play some music in the background.
16:45 us}0gb To me, music IS background noise.
16:46 us}0gb Unless you turn it up. THen it's foreground noise.
16:46 Nocte Any other noise than music in the background really makes me annoyed.
16:47 markveidemanis Does anyone here have garry's mod?
16:47 us}0gb I don't mind white noise, but I don't much care for other noise.
16:47 Nocte Somehow music kind of makes it easier to focus.
16:47 us}0gb Garry's Mod is proprietary, so I don't have it.
16:48 us}0gb Music steals my attention and focus.
16:48 Nocte Heh.
16:48 us}0gb I start focusing on the music when I want to focus on other things.
16:51 mahomet no markveidemanis
16:57 TheLastProject us}0gb: Interesting to find my polar opposite
16:57 TheLastProject I can't concentrate properly without music
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16:58 iqualfragile depends on the music
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17:06 Exio4 VanessaE: it wss commenting the update title part, grep -r for that
17:06 Exio4 :P
17:07 VanessaE Exio4: jin_xi already helped :)
17:07 Exio4 ah
17:07 pitriss please can anybody tell me how to correctly place windmill from technic game?
17:07 * Exio4 is at city
17:08 Exio4 i love how funny coding is
17:10 Exio4 time: 60% thinking how-to/algorithm 35% looking at docs 5% coding
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17:17 VanessaE pitriss: place a windmill object and 20 windmill frames below it in a column
17:17 VanessaE then run MV cabling to the back.
17:17 pitriss VanessaE: ok.. thanks:)
17:18 VanessaE sure
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17:28 jojoa1997 hi
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17:28 us}0gb Hello!
17:28 Dan_D Hi
17:29 jojoa1997 hi
17:29 Dan_D 'parently I can only use OpenGL in Linux for Minetest
17:29 Dan_D Which is a bummer
17:29 jojoa1997 us}0gb: why the name change
17:30 jojoa1997 you need to choose a single name man
17:30 us}0gb Because I'm crazy and change my name almost daily. I'm hoping to build a script that will change my name for me.
17:30 Dan_D Like I decided on Dan_D
17:30 us}0gb I chose six names.
17:31 jojoa1997 Exio4: i love how funny coding is time: 60% thinking how-to/algorithm 35% looking at docs 5% coding
17:31 Dan_D And 224% debugging :P
17:31 jojoa1997 Exio you forgot % bug fixing
17:31 jojoa1997 110
17:32 Dan_D Bye
17:32 jojoa1997 ok?
17:33 * jojoa1997 is off to work on his website
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17:33 Dan_D Any linux user there?
17:33 jojoa1997 me
17:33 us}0gb I use GNU/Linux-libre.
17:33 jojoa1997 and mainly everyone else
17:33 Dan_D How do I update Blender? It is out of date.
17:35 jojoa1997 ok so it is my second day using linux(total~3-5 hours) but couldnt you just go to http://www.blender.org/ and download the app
17:35 us}0gb Sorry, I have no knowledge of blender. If it's the version from the repository, the software updater should work. If not, uninstall it and download and install the new version.
17:35 Dan_D I did:
17:35 jojoa1997 more exact http://www.blender.org/download/get-blender/
17:35 Dan_D sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install blender
17:35 jojoa1997 i have alot to learn about blender
17:36 jojoa1997 i mean linux
17:36 us}0gb Then you have the most up to date version for your distribution.
17:36 Dan_D Really? Ok...
17:36 Dan_D It seems to be missing alot of functions then.
17:37 us}0gb Either download from the URI jojoa1997 posted and use that or stick with the out of date version your distribution has. It's up to you.
17:37 jojoa1997 URL
17:37 us}0gb The distributions don't always update the repositories.
17:37 us}0gb jojoa1997, URL is an out-of-date term. The modern term is URI.
17:37 jojoa1997 really?
17:37 us}0gb Yes.
17:37 jojoa1997 what does that mean
17:38 Dan_D How do I uninstall the old Blender?
17:38 us}0gb Uniform Resource Identifier, I think, jojoa1997.
17:38 us}0gb sudo apt-get remove blender
17:38 Dan_D Ok
17:39 jojoa1997 lol windows seems much easier atm with installing and uninstalling programs
17:39 Exio4 jojoa1997: the debugging time is 98.75, didn't want to use supa small time
17:39 Exio4 jojoa1997: nah
17:39 jojoa1997 Exio4 yah
17:39 us}0gb He's using the command line. If you use the graphical way, GNU/Linux is easier.
17:40 jojoa1997 well i havent been online yet so i cant try
17:40 us}0gb jojoa1997, which distribution?
17:40 Exio4 if you use common sense and logic
17:40 Exio4 linux is easy
17:40 jojoa1997 ubuntu 12.04.3 or something. also had lts
17:40 Exio4 doesn't matter the distro ;)
17:41 jojoa1997 well i spin circles(good ones) in windows
17:41 markveidemanis I need screenshots of minetest worlds, without the gui showing
17:41 Dan_D I downloaded the tar.bz2, what do I do with it?
17:41 us}0gb It matters when I'm trying to explain where the software manager is.
17:41 jojoa1997 f1
17:41 jojoa1997 Dan_D unzip it and place the folder somewhere i think
17:42 Dan_D Ok
17:42 us}0gb jojoa1997, click the gift bag-looking icon to open the graphical software manager. You don't even need to find most software on the web any more, you can browse through it there.
17:42 Dan_D But it is mostly out of date in there...
17:42 jojoa1997 but you need internet connection right?
17:42 Dan_D Like the Minetestis 0.3.1
17:42 us}0gb You do, yes, so you'll need to wait until you have one.
17:43 Dan_D Yes you need internet
17:43 jojoa1997 do i need to install or download anything extra except minetest when making a build
17:43 jojoa1997 and do i need internet with that?
17:43 us}0gb Dan_D, games like Minetest matter if they are out of date, but other software, not as much. For example, GIMP is pretty much an image editor in any iteration.
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17:44 Dan_D Except the most up to date version is impossible to use
17:44 Dan_D (With GIMP)
17:44 dafull97 hey all!
17:44 jojoa1997 gtg soon
17:44 us}0gb jojoa1997, if you have the software you need (you don't by default, so you'll need a connection the first time) and you have the source code, you don't need a connection to compile.
17:44 us}0gb Hello!
17:44 jojoa1997 cya
17:45 us}0gb Bye!
17:45 Dan_D Bye
17:45 Dan_D Woops, too late
17:45 us}0gb Have you ever wanted to build a Ouija boards in Minetest?
17:45 Dan_D Nope
17:45 us}0gb Me neither. BUt I just finished the nodes needed to build one anyway. Stone letters.
17:46 dafull97 us}0gb, hello
17:47 us}0gb Hello!
17:47 dafull97 i learned all lua, =D
17:47 dafull97 hahahaha, jkjkjk
17:47 us}0gb Great! SO you understand the parens and curly brackets then?
17:47 dafull97 not any
17:48 dafull97 haha, no
17:48 us}0gb Oh, never mind then.
17:48 dafull97 LOL, i understand on how to do functions
17:48 dafull97 same like C++ right?
17:48 us}0gb I don't know C++ yet.
17:49 Dan_D Jordach, you there?
17:49 Dan_D Never mind
17:49 dafull97 neither do i all the way, i started a little of it
17:50 Jordach Dan_D, hm
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17:51 Dan_D How do I openthe pane in Blender at the side, to do the texture thing?
17:51 us}0gb Is there a way to tell Minetest to generate an all-stone flat world?
17:51 Jordach Dan_D, see the top right of the 3D view?
17:51 dafull97 lol, why all stone?
17:52 Jordach there should be three diagonal lines, drag then left
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17:52 us}0gb dafull97, for a screenshot of a new plugin.
17:52 dafull97 ohh..
17:52 auditor Hai guys I am having a issue, I just compiled and installed minetest. It opens fine but in single player when i try to create new world bproviding name and selecting any of the options and clicking createit justreturns to main area, no world created
17:52 Dan_D Ok Jordach
17:53 Dan_D I now have 2 blender 3d object thingies open
17:53 * rubenwardy just made his own configuration file parser in c++
17:53 Jordach Dan_D, see the little cube in the second window
17:53 Dan_D Yep
17:53 Jordach you click that and a drop down appears
17:53 Dan_D Ok
17:54 Dan_D Which option?
17:54 Dan_D ie,edit mode, texture paint, etc
17:56 Dan_D And how do I texture a cube, for a different texture on each face?
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17:58 Jordach UV/Image Editor
17:58 rubenwardy Uv mapping is crap in blender
17:58 Jordach (remember, adding textures needs to have a material with the same texture_
17:58 rubenwardy overly complicated
17:58 Jordach rubenwardy, i make mine by hand
17:58 Dan_D Ok
17:59 Dan_D afk
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18:23 Dan_D Jordach, how do I make the starter cube have the grass texture on top, dirt on sides and base, with side overlay for grass_side?
18:23 Dan_D In Render mode
18:26 us}0gb Um. I just hit F12 to take a Minetest screenshot, and the graphics started flashing. The saved screenshot is as just blue and black stripes.
18:28 Dan_D Never mind
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18:35 Nocte Finally the Pokémon The Origin (anime based on Pokémon Red version.) is uploaded. :D
18:41 * Nocte drools at the anime. o.o
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18:52 Nocte Screw the anime with the music almost straight out of the games. :(
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18:54 Nocte OH WOW, they even imitate the text boxes from Pokémon Red. o.o
18:57 Nocte FFFFFFFFFFFF----
19:01 * prestotron55 loves the Pokemon text boxes
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19:09 Nocte prestotron55, they included the 'White Hand' reference from Lavender Town.
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19:36 Jordach can i place in trash: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=113070#p113070
19:36 PilzAdam yes
19:38 Jordach it's a waste of the 270kb i used to download the post
19:38 Menche the notice that it is in spanish is labelled "forgiveness"?
19:39 Menche is the worst thing about the forum the colors or the papyrus title font?
19:39 Menche *theggabook's forum
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19:47 us}0gb <Evergreen> Why do you have such terrible graphic designing skills?
19:47 prestotron55 [deleted]
19:47 * us}0gb busts up laughing
19:48 Jordach haha
19:48 * Jordach throws $5 on the table that GGA is a mexican
19:49 * sfan5 steals the table
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19:49 prestotron55 [deleted]
19:49 kaeza Jordach, nope, argentinian
19:49 Jordach :(
19:49 Nocte Hmm.
19:49 * Jordach throws $5 at kaeza
19:50 Nocte Now playing Pokémon Red with Nuzlocke challenge. :D
19:51 prestotron55 [deleted]
19:51 sfan5 plol
19:51 kaeza huh
19:51 sfan5 this is very ironic
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19:52 prestotron55 [deleted]
19:52 kaeza s/I/b/
19:53 Jordach HAS
19:53 Jordach -S
19:53 Nocte 18.
19:53 Nocte Hehe.
19:53 Nocte They are just damn addicting games. :|
19:53 Nocte Can't help it.
19:53 prestotron55 [deleted]
19:54 Calinou biffles?
19:54 Nocte Hehe.
19:54 sfan5 google translate doesn't know that word
19:54 prestotron55 [deleted]
19:54 Nocte I guess I just like more fantasy stuff since my life is just so BORING. ;)
19:55 kaeza ...
19:55 Naked I would have never in a million years describe pokemon as addicting
19:55 Nocte It is, trust me.
19:55 prestotron55 [deleted]
19:56 Nocte Also: Damn it, if you heard some of the descriptions for Pokémon... You wouldn't think they are children's games at all.
19:56 prestotron55 [deleted]
19:56 prestotron55 [deleted]
19:56 kaeza prestotron55 is a genwunner
19:56 kaeza :<
19:56 Nocte f a traveler is going through a desert in the thick of night, Cacturne will follow in a ragtag group. The Pokémon are biding their time, waiting for the traveler to tire and become incapable of moving. <- WHAT THE HELL?
19:57 Nocte Seriously?
19:57 Jordach nigger; see, a white guy can say it <- prestotron55
19:57 Nocte prestotron55, not after Pokémon Black & White, they actually had plots.
19:57 prestotron55 [deleted]
19:57 Nocte And after Generation III there's a continuous plot.
19:58 Jordach > continuous
19:58 Jordach lol
19:58 Nocte Heart Gold/Soul Silver has the red Gyarados thing, Diamond and Pearl mention it in the beginning in the TV.
19:58 Nocte And other stuff like that.
19:59 Jordach Nocte, fuck the US toon
19:59 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/W8Iu47e.png
20:00 Nocte And Heart Gold/Soul Silver actually happen after FireRed/LeafGreen after 3 years.
20:00 Naked pokemon is the only game where the developers used the same engine since the start of th series
20:00 Jordach sfan5, wut
20:00 Nocte And you meet 'Red' the male protagonist of Pokémon FireRed/LeafGreen.
20:00 sfan5 Jordach: that sums up all my drawing skills
20:00 Nocte And he's mentioned as the kid who beat Team Rocket three years ago.
20:00 Jordach sfan5, lol
20:00 Nocte No continous plot? ;)
20:01 Nocte Actually no Nkaed.
20:01 Nocte Naked*
20:01 Nocte They add a lot of stuff, Pokémon I/II generations use similar engine, III/IV/V/VI use similar engines.
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20:02 Nocte III adds Personalities which affect stats and EV training thing.
20:02 Nocte (Basically way to level up stats high.)
20:02 prestotron55 [deleted]
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20:03 Jordach fuck this; i'll fuck your whole team up with rattatas
20:03 Nocte Yeah, that. @prestotron55
20:04 Jordach this channel is usually offtopic
20:04 Nocte The rule is no talk about the actual topic!
20:04 Nocte ;)
20:04 Jordach now you know why i don't give a fuck sometimes
20:04 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:04 Nocte Rattata = Sucks until evolution.
20:04 Jordach Nocte, nope
20:05 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:05 Jordach a Lvl1 can beat a Lvl100
20:05 Nocte Not in Red/Blue/Green/Yellow.
20:06 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:06 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:06 kaeza lol
20:07 xiong #poketest?
20:07 Nocte Hehe.
20:08 xiong We are not a clone of some other poke-like game.
20:08 Jordach Nocte, i've tried building pokemon gold in minetest
20:08 Jordach it takes forever
20:08 sfan5 good night everyone
20:08 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:08 Nocte Everyone must've read heard the Pokémon Lavender Town creepypastas and theories, right?
20:08 Nocte Jordach, yeah...
20:09 Nocte Its insane to even try to build a Pokémon setting in something like this. :|
20:09 Jordach Nocte, http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jorda​ch/m/lavender-town-1-1-clone/
20:09 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:09 PilzAdam Jordach, moontest is BACK https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=113077#p113077 1111 one
20:09 kaeza suddenly: freenode staff knocking on your door
20:10 Jordach NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO​OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
20:10 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:10 PilzAdam prestotron55, yes
20:10 Jordach http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
20:10 kaeza ^
20:10 Nocte Harvest Moon Test? :|
20:11 Nocte Or whateverthehell.
20:11 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:11 Nocte Damn it, now I got Route 1 song stuck in my head.
20:11 Jordach Nocte, 1:1 right
20:11 PilzAdam prestotron55, our offtopic channel is called #minecraft </troll>
20:11 Jordach \o/
20:11 Nocte The first route you enter from the starting town, you know that right?
20:12 Jordach Nocte, i could try to rebuild it
20:12 Nocte Build Lavender Town!
20:12 Nocte Or the Pokémon Tower.
20:12 Jordach o.o
20:12 Nocte It would be cool.
20:12 Nocte All the White hand jokes I could make. Hahaha.
20:12 PilzAdam bye
20:13 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:13 ShadowNinja prestotron55: Also #botwar.
20:13 Nocte Screw Rattata. :|
20:14 Nocte I needed that Mankey.
20:14 Nocte Or Nidoran.. :|
20:14 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:14 ShadowNinja prestotron55: And any empty and unregistered channels.
20:14 xiong The off-topic channel convention leads to #not-minetest
20:15 Jordach Nocte, http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/minetest-music/ <- everyone who has used ambiance has heard this legendary song
20:15 Nocte You were late for the joke xiong.
20:16 Jordach what's more interesting is that i made that on a computer with synths
20:16 xiong Sorry, I have a skewed sense of humor. I was making a joke about #poketest. I wasn't joking about #not-minetest.
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20:18 Nocte Jordach. And no talent was required. ;)
20:19 * prestotron55 now made #freeop his bitch!
20:22 Nocte Your humor isn't that bad xiong.
20:22 Nocte You haven't heard messed up humor if you haven't watched Spoony Experiment.
20:24 Jordach Nocte, my challenge is 1:1 recreations
20:24 Jordach but also finding a good song sequence
20:24 Nocte Hehe.
20:24 Jordach the challenge is to make a song that sticks
20:24 Nocte Hmm.
20:24 Nocte Sariah's Song/Lost Wood theme?
20:24 Jordach now you know why lavender town is almost perfect
20:25 Nocte http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uInmFU6JkU <-
20:25 Nocte This fricking thing will get stuck in your head.
20:25 Nocte For years.
20:25 Jordach ill try tomorrow
20:25 Jordach although ninty beat me
20:25 Jordach (OOT3D)
20:26 kaeza LOL http://sysdef.de/botwar_channelrules.txt
20:26 Jordach OH FUCK
20:26 us}0gb I still know that song. Yeah, years for sure.
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20:26 dafull97 Hey guys
20:26 us}0gb Hello!
20:27 us}0gb !seen Niften
20:27 MinetestBot us}0gb: niften was last seen at 2013-10-02 03:06:06 UTC on #minetest
20:28 Nocte us}0gb, why are you stalking Niften?
20:29 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:29 us}0gb Niften and I are working on a project and I need to deliver bad news. Niften is really pushing that we support v7, but it seems that isn't possible.
20:30 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:31 us}0gb I'm not depending on him. I try to depend on as few people as I can.
20:31 us}0gb If he doesn't want to add to the project, I still have the code I write to use in my other project.
20:32 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:33 Nocte Ah.
20:33 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:33 us}0gb My work is pretty obvious. My plugins append "_0gb_us" to their names to create a sort of pseudo-namespace to avoid name clashes. GitHub also has the "blame" feature to show who added what.
20:33 Calinou fun fact: I barely know how to code, yet I made one of the most used mods. :D
20:34 Calinou I can read it and add to it ok, but I suck at _writing_ code
20:34 us}0gb Calinou, you are the maker of moreblocks, right?
20:34 * us}0gb has been gone a while and forgets
20:34 * prestotron55 mostly uses Calinou's mods :) Anybody seen my small little mod yet?
20:34 Calinou yes
20:35 us}0gb I haven't been watching the forum so I haven't seen it.
20:35 Calinou moreblocks/moreores/maptools
20:35 Calinou us}0gb: it's ok :P
20:35 us}0gb Moreores too? THat one's fun as well. I don't know anything about maptools though.
20:35 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:36 Calinou maptools is good for making adventure maps or stuff like that
20:36 * prestotron55 loves Calinou's mods <3
20:36 Calinou :>
20:37 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:37 xiong Okay, well one thing about which I'm certainly not joking is the idea of a rock-solid server -- solid in all directions. I spend way, way too much time playing Minetest and if I'm going to waste my life, at least I want to enjoy doing so and *feel* productive.
20:37 xiong I have some thoughts about how to make this work and I'd like to talk to others who also have thoughts... on #athens.
20:37 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:37 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:38 MinetestBot prestotron55: [mod] Medeival Tools (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums
20:38 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:38 MinetestBot prestotron55!
20:38 Calinou gtg night
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20:41 Nocte Ponies. WHYYY!? :(
20:41 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:41 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:41 Calinou add Rarity then :>
20:42 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:42 Nocte Ugh... :|
20:42 Nocte Rather add some dragons, ogres and such.
20:42 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:42 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:42 Nocte What about being able to encounter a 'Beholder' in a very deep cave? ;)
20:43 Nocte If anyone knows what I'm talking about: Have your NERDBADGE.
20:43 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:43 * prestotron55 puts NERDBADGE on
20:44 Nocte https://www.wizards.com/dnd/​images/excerpt_beholder2.jpg <- THIS FRICKING THING. Oh yeah, you turned into stone.
20:44 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:44 MinetestBot prestotron55: Can't connect to https://www.wizards.com/dnd/​images/excerpt_beholder2.jpg
20:44 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:45 Nocte Lol, this one guy who's doing Pokémon Red Nuzlocke has the best Pidgey ever.
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20:45 Nocte Too many criticals.
20:46 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:47 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:47 Nocte I hope you won't add the 'ponies' as something you have to add in order to get the other stuff.
20:47 Nocte :|
20:47 proller prestotron55, try release antinoob mod first
20:48 prestotron55 [deleted]
20:48 * prestotron55 is noob17 according to proller, and it is the most admired name ever!
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20:50 Nocte Fricking Kakuna!
20:50 * prestotron55 is leaving for a bit to watch Miley Cyrus: The Movement to figure out what the hell she is doing.
20:50 Nocte WHY WON'T U GET CAUGHT? >:(
20:50 Nocte There you go, right after I whined. :D
20:50 ShadowNinja minetest.register_on_joinplayer(function(player) if player:get_player_name():find("n[oO0][oO0]b") then minetest.ban_player(player:get_player_name()) end end)
20:50 Nocte prestotron55, stop listening to crap like that!
20:50 ShadowNinja And somethingsimilar for chat.
20:50 Nocte :(
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20:52 Nocte Lol.
20:53 Nocte 'expressing herself' = 'Trying to act tough and adult'. ;)
20:54 Nocte If you want music where people are expressing themselves: Try some Metal.
20:54 Nocte http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sXPmz9b4lM <- here some newbie Metal for you.
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21:39 rustyPipe hey, does anyone else here use infinality on linux?
21:40 kaeza ?
21:40 rustyPipe it's a program that makes fonts render better
21:41 kaeza and that has to do with Minetest because...
21:41 rustyPipe it doesn't
21:41 rustyPipe i was asking because my display my install screwed up
21:41 Menche i use it on one of my computers
21:42 Menche would it be used in minetest if freetype is enabled?
21:42 rustyPipe i don't know
21:43 Menche and what screwed up?
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21:43 rustyPipe when i rebooted after installing it, nothing popped up except for the terminal
21:43 rustyPipe can't use the DE or WM
21:44 rustyPipe i was wondering if it has anything to do with display variables
21:45 Nocte Somebody should make a Horror Mob mod.
21:45 Nocte Typical horror movie monsters. :P
21:51 chlue Hm how can I get the actual name of a block when I have the u16 Id of a block (In the server code)?
21:53 cy1 oh man
21:53 cy1 I just found a really expensive way to destroy a lot of stuff
21:54 cy1 so you have a constructor that constructs a constructor
21:54 cy1 fill the second one
21:54 cy1 then de-struct it
21:54 cy1 oops!
21:55 Nocte Hehe.
21:56 Nocte I think somebody already modded TNTs.
21:57 chlue cy1: you could make a fortune with it by providing a clean way for leav disposal
21:57 cy1 chlue burn it in a furnace :p
22:03 * Nocte sets up TNT traps EVERYWHERE.
22:11 cy1 Why can't a MV battery box charge from LV current, when a tool workshop can?
22:19 chlue Because there are three powergrids lv, mv and hv. Connect your laptop directly to an overhead powerline and the outcome will not be that nice, too.
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22:51 dafull97 us}0gb here?
22:51 dafull97 !seen us}0gb
22:51 MinetestBot dafull97: us}0gb was last seen at 2013-10-03 20:35:30 UTC on #minetest
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22:57 us}0gb dafull97, I'm here.
23:00 dafull97 ok cool =D
23:02 Peacock procrastination: putting off getting cat food until someone burns the place down, a long walk just turned into a much longer walk to the next town over lol
23:07 Peacock lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-XOsurYbwE
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23:21 Nocte Peacock. Haha.
23:22 Peacock about the long walk or the bieber creature?
23:22 Nocte Bieber thing.
23:24 Peacock :P https://images.encyclopediadrama​tica.es/d/df/Bieberstreaking.jpg
23:27 Nocte Lol Peacock.
23:28 Nocte Hmm.
23:29 Nocte Anything other crazy stuff?
23:29 Peacock https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7831626496/h24665B77/
23:30 Nocte Zuul! MOTHERFUCKING ZUUL!
23:31 Nocte Heh.
23:31 Nocte Nostalgia Critic reference if you didn't get it.
23:31 VanessaE ha!
23:31 Peacock https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7569580544/hFD582EE7/
23:32 Nocte Damn..
23:32 Nocte That's some crazy stuff there. Is she a relative to that freak show? ;)
23:33 Peacock i have no idea what's up with celebreties these days lol i have a feeling in ten or fifteen years they'll be making very expensive soap out of them, since they can't sign for shit
23:34 Nocte Sing*?
23:34 Peacock didn't see that lol
23:34 Peacock though i wouldn't be surprised if some of them were illiterate too
23:35 Nocte Yeah, the 'fashion' desgins are really, really stupid. :p
23:35 Nocte Designs*
23:35 Nocte DAMN IT. /Hates typos.
23:35 Peacock that thing about lady gaga wearing a meat costume, for the longest time i thought that was an internet rumour lol
23:36 Nocte Ugh, don't mention that.
23:36 Nocte Its the most stupid thing I've heard/seen for a while.
23:37 Peacock its surely no coincidence television is dieing and people are streaming more old shit these days lol
23:37 Peacock *dying wtv lol
23:38 Nocte Hehe.
23:38 Nocte Yeah, some older stuff really is good.
23:39 Peacock except for this one Italian film from the 70's that left me scratching my head lol
23:39 * Nocte wants to watch some classic horror movies from 70s-90s. :|
23:40 Nocte Problem is: I don't know where to start with.
23:40 Peacock imdb, metacritic
23:40 Peacock whatever has the trailer handy and a ratings system
23:40 Nocte I'm looking for specific stuff.
23:41 Nocte Like, not too much gore/nudity.
23:41 Nocte Some weird paranormal shit going on etc.
23:41 Nocte Also: http://blog.flametreepublishing.com/Portals/293​166/images/dracula%20movie%20poster%201931.jpg <- much better movie poster than what the generic ones today are.
23:41 Peacock there's always cspan :P
23:42 Nocte cspan?
23:43 Peacock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C-SPAN :P
23:43 VanessaE you want scary, you watch the us government :P
23:43 Peacock isn't that cspan? :P
23:43 Nocte Hehe, yeah.
23:43 VanessaE yup
23:44 Peacock media's starting to talk about the possibility of default
23:44 VanessaE so I've heard :-/
23:44 Nocte Of default what?
23:45 VanessaE on the us national debt
23:45 Nocte Meaning?
23:45 Peacock seems ridiculous when the fed can print toilet paper money at will
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23:46 VanessaE I don't think anyone knows what will happen actually
23:46 ndjdjksisksk hi
23:46 VanessaE but it means "you failed to pay your debt:
23:46 VanessaE hi ndneuihruhhifhdf4789ew
23:46 Peacock cant the pres pass a budget by executive order?
23:46 VanessaE (pick a real nick, jeez)
23:46 ndjdjksisksk vanessa cam me stormchaser2000
23:46 VanessaE Peacock: no.
23:46 ndjdjksisksk call*
23:46 ndjdjksisksk or ndj
23:46 VanessaE Peacock: us house of reps has that job.
23:47 * Nocte bangs head against a wall in boredom.
23:48 Peacock should be interesting to see, it's not like Iceland and Argentina got to walk away from their debts even after default
23:48 VanessaE heh
23:48 ndjdjksisksk n on e knows how ot pronouce my name
23:48 Peacock if i remember correctly, the UK used anti-terror laws to freeze Icelandic assets
23:48 VanessaE well the us govt seems to think things don't work the same for them as for the rest of the world
23:49 Peacock so long as the US$ is the reserve currency, yeah that's sortof true
23:49 VanessaE the way the world's going, soon it'll be the Yuan. :P
23:49 Peacock problem is devaluing the US dollar is like taxing the whole world (their holdings of US$ loses value)
23:50 Peacock well keyne's had it right on that score
23:50 Nocte ndjdjksisksk, hehe.
23:50 Peacock http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bancor
23:50 ndjdjksisksk oh man why talk about the political crud
23:50 Nocte Peacock, yeah... They don't seem to think stuff through do they?
23:50 Nocte I guess you can blame the Democrats. Huehuehuehue.
23:50 ndjdjksisksk .....................................
23:51 ndjdjksisksk FACEPAlM
23:51 Peacock ya'll mean the tea party
23:51 VanessaE blame house repubs for refusing to pass a plain budget
23:51 Nocte What would the budget cause? :p
23:51 VanessaE they're trying to shoehorn anti-ACA legislation into the routine budget
23:51 * ndjdjksisksk is going tto yell at people for not talking aobut minetest in the minetest irc chanel (jk)
23:51 Peacock dems won the election fair and square, passed a law fair and square, and the gop is trying it's damndest to defund it
23:51 VanessaE the senate passed a clean budget.  the house didn't.
23:52 Peacock in the process the GOP is risking the entire recovery and the US's credit rating
23:52 VanessaE yup basically.
23:52 VanessaE gop is full of total idiots
23:52 Peacock in many countries, they'd call that treason
23:53 ndjdjksisksk ohhhh my stink=ing crud thi sgovernment eill fail and the orld will end
23:53 Nocte Well, then again: Who were the ones for SOPA etc?
23:53 ndjdjksisksk now put it that way
23:53 VanessaE ndjdjksisksk: It won't be like that, but it won't be good either.
23:53 VanessaE Nocte: mostly dems I think
23:54 Nocte There you go, not all nice are they? ;)
23:54 ndjdjksisksk faacepalm i did not mean it that way
23:54 VanessaE nope
23:54 VanessaE nearly all of them suck
23:54 Peacock in any case, the next GOP president will have a helluva time selling a war on concepts of freedom and democracy when they make democracy look so bad/ineffectual
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23:55 Nocte Also: Go see any political video on youtube about right wing news or something: Racists comments from the left!
23:56 Peacock what i dont get about the left is how they defend muslim countries knowing how they treat their women and other minorities
23:57 VanessaE Peacock: neither do I, and I'm a liberal also
23:58 Nocte Peacock and whenever you mention there are lots of Muslim terrorists they are like "There are Christian terrorists too!!" /facepalm.
23:58 * VanessaE shrugs
23:58 Nocte They don't commit terrorist acts in the name of their God do they? ;)
23:58 Peacock im a libertarian/fiscal conservative, but the right tends to spend more than the left, while cutting taxes, so it actually makes more sense to vote liberal lol
23:59 Nocte I guess I don't know where the hell my category is of political view. :|
23:59 Peacock one thing i can't stand is the nanny state bs, but all parties are into that

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