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00:00 Peacock i figure its not defined in the
00:00 Peacock if y0 == cloudyq then -- CLouds
00:00 Peacock block
00:00 paramat correct
00:00 paramat set y to CLOUDY
00:01 * Peacock expects kick
00:01 Peacock like this?
00:01 Peacock local x = x0 + i + a
00:01 Peacock local z = z0 + k + b
00:01 Peacock local y = CLOUDY
00:01 Peacock was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
00:01 paramat :)
00:01 Exio4 lol..
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00:02 paramat for only 3 lines?
00:02 paramat 4
00:02 Peacock hehe, i told you i saw it coming :P
00:02 paramat oh just saw that line :)
00:03 Peacock didn't see much of a point in pastebinning 3 lines of code lol
00:05 Peacock what was the purpose of xmin/max, zmin/max? i removed them from my pastebin for a full plane
00:06 paramat so you can limit the realm horizontally if you want
00:07 Peacock ok so my removing it doesnt fuck anything up, thats good lol
00:07 paramat yeah
00:08 Peacock i figured with my water world, if Earth has flooded, humanity would have escape to a habitable world (fantasy i know lol)
00:09 Peacock not sure if to make the "other world" entirely freebuild or keep the same rules as the level below
00:11 PilzAdam Peacock, flooding on purpose can get you banned...
00:11 Peacock i wasnt flooding on purpose, i simply posted 3 lines of code
00:11 PilzAdam * Peacock expects kick
00:12 paramat moorealm was particularly unsuitable for a server due to the potential atmosphere abm meltdown
00:12 PilzAdam you can simply s/\n/;/
00:14 Peacock it is abit comical that i get kicked for posting 3 lines of code, but some people get away with asking the same question a dozen times
00:14 Peacock but if you really want to ban me, go ahead, theres no shortage of bright minds here :P (sarcasm)
00:14 Peacock what is  s/\n/;/    ?
00:15 Exio4 replace newlines with ;
00:15 Exio4 hi
00:15 PilzAdam use ; instead of newlines
00:15 Exio4 b
00:15 Exio4 hi;b
00:15 PilzAdam its also valid Lua, btw
00:15 Peacock meh, methink the bot should differentiate between people posting many lines, and people posting many lines of the same thing
00:16 PilzAdam its dissalowed to post 3 lines of code
00:16 kaeza it does
00:16 PilzAdam use a pastebin
00:16 Peacock for 3 lines?
00:16 PilzAdam yes
00:16 Peacock you got more free time than i do
00:16 PilzAdam IRC is not meant to post code
00:17 Peacock were talking about MT related shit, you'd rather nothing was going on here?
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00:18 harrison mr Peacock, are you free?
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00:19 Peacock I'm freeeeeee
00:19 Peacock btw, only surviving cast member, is Mr Rumbold lol
00:19 Peacock they all dropped like flies in the last decade :/
00:19 harrison ? not the blonde girl?
00:19 Peacock Brahms? she went years ago
00:20 Peacock breast cancer i believe
00:20 harrison how about allo allo?
00:20 harrison now that was funny
00:20 Peacock Peacock and Rumbold were the only two left, i only learned recently Peacock passed away
00:20 paramat i watched the original series as a child in the late 70's
00:20 Peacock it played in Canada on YTV when i was a kid :P
00:20 Peacock but usually around midnight
00:21 harrison never saw allo allo?
00:21 harrison from the same writers i think
00:21 Peacock it was 12:00 Are You Being Served?, 12:30 Keeping Up Appearances, 1:00 Yes Minister/Yes Prime Minister
00:21 harrison terrible accents in occupation france
00:21 Peacock allo allo never grew on me
00:21 Peacock i liked Waiting For God and To The Manor Born tho
00:22 harrison what was the show with felicity kendall ? she and her husband were like hippies trying to garden
00:22 harrison i watched that
00:23 harrison The Leith police dismisseth us ␊They thought we sought to stay; ␊The Leith police dismisseth us ␊They thought we'd stay all day. ␊The Leith police dismisseth us, ␊We both sighed sighs apiece; ␊And the sighs that we sighed as we said goodbye ␊Were the size of the Leith police.
00:23 Peacock The Good Family i think
00:23 harrison Good something
00:23 harrison not family i think
00:24 paramat The Good Life
00:24 harrison sounds right
00:24 harrison she was hot
00:24 harrison i was 13 or so
00:24 harrison so my standards were not restrictive
00:24 Peacock Yeah it had Paul Eddington and Penelope Keith (they were more interesting than the stars lol)
00:26 PilzAdam bye
00:28 Peacock sweet, no more bs for working on stuff lol
00:29 Peacock paramat i wasn't sure why moonrealm was slow on my server, but when more than 1 person explored it locked the whole thing up
00:33 paramat :) 4 line kick is a little harsh
00:33 Peacock it was 3 :P
00:33 Peacock the line i posted above was seperate
00:34 paramat ah
00:34 Peacock but if you post a piece of code with 2-3 newlines, irc splits them up
00:34 Peacock but im not about to start reformatting all my code with ; to please IRC lol
00:34 paramat moonrealm had atmosphere nodes, so every chunk had 80^3 'add nodes'
00:34 Peacock well i had disabled atmosphere
00:34 Peacock but the version i ran on my server wasn't LVM
00:35 paramat thats why
00:35 harrison Peacock: i invite you to #spasim
00:36 Peacock paragen looks cool though since its got more of a height differential
00:36 harrison code fragments and (nonobscene, nonpolitical) ascii art are always welcome there
00:36 Peacock and that layering effect that's more realistic
00:36 Peacock harrison i know too much about politics to be nonpolitical :P
00:37 harrison not YOU, the ascii art
00:37 harrison and that is for my own protection
00:37 harrison i made that rule so that i would remember not to say anything political there
00:37 Peacock besides, when it comes to politics, i always use satirical obscene statements to get my point across lol
00:38 harrison fine, fine
00:38 harrison i approve
00:38 harrison not in that particular channel is all
00:38 harrison cmon you will class up the joint
00:39 Peacock example, right now they're talking about assisted suicide in my country, which they call "dying with dignity" which i'm against, so i suggested they do the same thing to the crippled and retarded so they can die with dignity too :P
00:39 Peacock which makes the whole thing look like T4
00:40 Peacock citation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_T4)
00:44 Mossmanikin Guess this was too political? :D
00:45 harrison i like your snarky attitude Peacock it is a shame you have declined by invitation (so it seems)
00:46 harrison by/my
00:46 Peacock tbh i cant remember channels, ive been invited to a ton, but i barely use IRC, except for minetest
00:46 Peacock honestly before minetest i thought IRC was dead :P
00:47 Peacock but opensource being what it is, being 10 years behind the times is totally normal lol
00:47 harrison i thought you might be a coder
00:47 harrison The taking of thousands of brains from euthanasia victims demonstrated the way research was connected to the medical killings.
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00:47 Peacock i am, php, perl, lua, (and the less programmerish html, css, javascript)
00:48 Peacock harrison well hell, they used to experiment on orphans in my province in the 50s and 60's,
00:48 Peacock what i dont trust about assisted suicide, is the power of the doctors
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00:49 harrison so no statically compiled language
00:49 dafull97 hey Guys
00:49 Mossmanikin hi
00:49 harrison i suppose you have ideas about toy world renderers (sl, minecraft, minetest, that sort of thing)
00:49 Peacock naw i was never much good at C/Java type languages, thought that might have something to do with there being less interesting things to code with it
00:50 paramat Peacock, paragen is my flagship hardcore mapgen written for vmanip. You can make the realm or terrain height (VSCALE) as big as you want, moonrealm was limited to 2 chunk depth 160m
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00:51 harrison for a realtime raytracer, one must have speed
00:51 Peacock paramat well thats what i want to use for alien worlds (paragen) though i need to speed it up somewhat for the case where several users are exploring (loading terrain)
00:52 Peacock harrison ive never found OS coding very much interesting, websites and game mods are something else
00:53 harrison raytracing == OS coding (???)
00:54 Peacock naw totally different things, but when you talk about C, its mostly shit like that (OS, engines, etc.)
00:54 * harrison is protected from criticism by a thick pupa
00:54 Peacock and c++ is so fucking complicated its no fun lol
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00:54 * harrison emerges from the pupa, crawls up a stalk, and dries its wings
00:56 harrison i believe you. i suppose c++ is not any fun. i have always avoided it
00:56 Peacock ive read more than a few books on the subject, and it kills my enthusiasm every time lol
00:56 * harrison tires of being an insect and goes back to being a cuttlefish
00:56 Peacock like, wtf am i gonna code, device drivers? lol
00:57 harrison and you call yourself a universal polymath
00:57 Peacock i have an interest in many things, just not c/c++ lol
00:58 * harrison suddenly jets away in a cloud of ink
01:01 paramat okay the treegen functions are called from within the ongen function so they should be converted to LVM, that will speed things up
01:02 Peacock polymaths are awesome btw, so many people these days train for a specific job, ive had 20+ in my life so far lol
01:03 Peacock (and never the same one twice)
01:04 Peacock paramat not sure how to make schematics in the current format, not even sure if WE saves schematics in its own format :/
01:05 paramat and yes line 492 of pastebin 'local y = CLOUDY' followed by 'local vi = area:index(x, y, z)'
01:05 Peacock i did that and it stopped crashing :-)
01:06 paramat i have to learn schematics for massive generative architecture: multiple placing of an apartment schematic
01:07 Peacock though between lsystems and schematics, not sure which is better
01:07 paramat although for paragen i prefer each tree to be unique, schematics would mean 1 or a few fixed structures, so i prefer LVM trees
01:07 Peacock both generate the same tree
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01:07 Peacock lvm = schematics
01:08 paramat sort of :)
01:08 Peacock lsystems can be made unique by throwing in a few math.randoms
01:09 paramat thanks for testing paragen LVM, perhaps you could host it and put a link in my thread?
01:09 Peacock host it as a file or a server?
01:10 paramat oh sorry i meant just as a file
01:10 Peacock i put the code up so you could use it, but ive made some changes on mine to make it work with my custom default
01:10 Peacock and custom hieght
01:10 Peacock *height
01:11 paramat okay yeah better idea i'll grab the pastebin and host it myself :)
01:11 Peacock well dont forget the fixes :P
01:11 Peacock (for clouds)
01:11 Peacock besides these days i use zippyshare and some people dont like that lol
01:11 Peacock you know how to use github, which is more than me lol
01:12 paramat yes i'll edit your fixes out
01:12 paramat i'm useless on github
01:14 Peacock if youre useless, im less than useless lol
01:16 paramat ^ oops i mean i'll remember the fixes
01:16 Peacock lol i understood :P i already removed my own fixes (height, missing nodes) before posting the pastebin
01:17 Peacock thought some thoughts about that: a helper function that takes an array of nodes and returns an array of content id's wouldn't be bad for your other mapgen type mods
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01:30 Dark_Soul hello everyone
01:30 harrison http://youtu.be/Fo09wEWFsVk
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01:31 Dark_Soul is there a mod that adds the priv "invisiablity"?
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01:35 Dark_Soul kaeza do you know if theres any mod that have the priv "invisability"?
01:35 harrison "inadvisability"
01:36 Miner_48er Dark_Soul explain what the priv invisibility should be?
01:36 kaeza "indivisibility"
01:36 Miner_48er or should do?
01:37 paramat Peacock, what's the advantage of that (02:17) over our current way? sorry am not good programmer
01:37 Dark_Soul where no one can see you for admins so they can go check on players to check for griefing cuase if the admin is turned the wrong way and the griefer sees them they will stop and move away
01:38 Dark_Soul i think this would be a great mod for server owners
01:38 Peacock paramat for a single mod, nothing, but over several mods, it would help coding lvm
01:39 ShadowNinja That would be fairly easy to do with a mod, just set a transparent player texture.
01:39 Dark_Soul but that would mean skins and some servers  (like mine) do not run skins.
01:40 harrison then you have no "skin in the game"
01:40 Miner_48er is there a way to hide the name too?
01:40 Dark_Soul yea that to cuase they could still see there name
01:44 kaeza name yourself "I" or "_" :P
01:45 Dark_Soul this is for admins -.-
01:45 Dark_Soul they cant be names I or _
01:45 Dark_Soul well i guess they could be but..
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01:51 Dark_Soul hello
01:51 Dark_Soul Prestotron thanks for your help with linux i love it :)
01:53 Miner_48er Dark_Soul did you get that run script to work?
01:54 prestotron55 [deleted]
01:54 paramat Peacock, i think we need to add 'nodeid.air' and then change the 'if' statement in the cloud loop to 'if data[vi] == nodeid.air then', should speed up cloudgen
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02:05 Dark_Soul back
02:05 Dark_Soul sorry now what?
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02:12 paramat ... and of course nodeids for trees, i'll work on this LVM version and post it in the thread
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02:48 VanessaE hi
02:48 prestotron55 [deleted]
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02:56 TheUniversalBuil Hello
02:57 TheUniversalBuil Can the pipeworks mod pick up fresh water?
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03:00 Miner_48er yes
03:00 TheUniversalBuil great
03:00 VanessaE it doesn't properly count what it picks up but yes
03:01 VanessaE it can be used to move water around to some degree.  works best with regular infinite water
03:01 TheUniversalBuil arn't you the craetor @Vanessa?
03:01 VanessaE yeah
03:01 TheUniversalBuil great
03:01 TheUniversalBuil thanks
03:01 TheUniversalBuil i love that mod
03:02 TheUniversalBuil are there diagonal laying pipes?
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03:03 VanessaE no
03:03 Derp_Pig Hello
03:03 VanessaE it would be nice but that would complicate things greatly
03:03 VanessaE hi Derp_Pig
03:03 TheUniversalBuil how?
03:03 Derp_Pig Wow
03:03 Derp_Pig Minetest had some crazy updates
03:03 Derp_Pig while i was gone
03:04 VanessaE TheUniversalBuil: because as it stands now, there are 64 variations of the pipe model, one for each possible combination of pipes exiting the 6 faces of the cube the pipe sits in.  Adding diagonal pipes would increase that by at least an order of magnitude.
03:04 Derp_Pig what
03:05 VanessaE Derp_Pig: it has moved along smartly, yes.
03:05 * VanessaE wonders who Derp_Pig is
03:05 Derp_Pig Im a "old minetest" player
03:06 Derp_Pig About 2-3 years ago
03:06 Derp_Pig But when i discoverd minecraft
03:06 VanessaE couldn't be 3 years ago.  MT didn't exist then :)
03:06 TheUniversalBuil tohhh
03:06 VanessaE but yeah, in the meantime it's changed greatly
03:06 TheUniversalBuil ok thanks
03:07 Derp_Pig im pretty sure it was 2 years ago
03:07 VanessaE Derp_Pig: 2 years ago is possible :)
03:08 Derp_Pig where you could noclip around and steal those weird gold blocks.... before there was any sound?
03:08 Derp_Pig Those were the days
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03:08 Derp_Pig Is there still no-clip
03:08 VanessaE those weird gold blocks were probably mese, and those still exist.  noclip is supported and is a server-side privilege
03:09 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks
03:09 TheUniversalBuil how come people rarely use the mob mod?
03:09 TheUniversalBuil *mobs
03:09 VanessaE hey TheUniversalBuil
03:09 VanessaE oops
03:09 VanessaE hey thefamilygrog66
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03:09 thefamilygrog66 haha
03:09 thefamilygrog66 hey VanessaE
03:09 VanessaE TheUniversalBuil: because entities e.g. mobs are somewhat buggy.
03:09 VanessaE some people use them
03:09 thefamilygrog66 <- uses the mobs mod
03:09 Derp_Pig Yeah! Mese, wasent that some joke made by the devoper... hmmmmm
03:09 thefamilygrog66 simple mobs that is
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03:10 TheUniversalBuil oh ok
03:10 NakedFury still used but new textures
03:10 Derp_Pig its been awhile
03:10 thefamilygrog66 I added a mob that uses the player model with Herobrine skin, randomly spawning on wood (i.e. inside houses, typically). Scary stuff.
03:11 thefamilygrog66 For awhile, he was 4x the size as normal and would spawn in the desert - giants!
03:11 VanessaE Derp_Pig: it was a joke originally yes (mese is short for "messenger" in finnish or something)
03:12 thefamilygrog66 fosscon
03:13 * thefamilygrog66 still pronounces it "mess-ay"
03:13 thefamilygrog66 can't help it
03:14 VanessaE to me, it's a long-E, like "geese".
03:15 Derp_Pig VanessaE: Oh ok i renember. That was the most fun i renember having on my old pc. Before i discoved minecraft... Then i totally forgot about the amazing community :'(
03:16 thefamilygrog66 you say potahto
03:16 VanessaE you should give latest git a try (on my servers ;) ).
03:17 VanessaE thefamilygrog66: let's call the whole thing off? ;)
03:17 thefamilygrog66 Haha
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03:17 thefamilygrog66 I'm running the daily build client on my linux desktop, but still 0.4.7 stable on my windows laptop
03:17 VanessaE (Laugh-in was one of my favorites)
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03:18 thefamilygrog66 My house smells like freaking grape juice - the grapes are ripening out back, it's insane
03:18 VanessaE mmmmmmm
03:19 thefamilygrog66 they taste pretty sweet, but seedy - I guess the former owners made wine
03:19 thefamilygrog66 I wish there was a beer tree out back, if there was such a thing!
03:19 VanessaE time to make some jelly :)
03:20 thefamilygrog66 Yeah, I'm gonna look into that. Nice apple tree in the back yard too - apple crisp, apple pie time.
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03:22 VanessaE mmmmmmmmm
03:22 VanessaE I'll take a few casseroles-full of that apple crisp ;)
03:22 thefamilygrog66 Haha, tasty.
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03:22 Derp_Pig back.
03:22 thefamilygrog66 Hey V, did you see my attempt at player_physics_override?
03:23 VanessaE no
03:24 thefamilygrog66 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7307
03:24 VanessaE oh yes I saw that
03:25 Derp_Pig Wait. Does minetest still have the weird magical bears?
03:25 Derp_Pig hehe.
03:25 thefamilygrog66 ?!
03:25 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: topic remove -2
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03:25 VanessaE you mean dungeon masters?
03:25 VanessaE those exist as part of a separate mod now, simple mobs
03:25 Derp_Pig Yes. -_-
03:25 Derp_Pig Oh ok
03:26 ShadowNinja LOL, magical bears.
03:26 thefamilygrog66 I hate their fireballs.
03:26 ShadowNinja plol
03:26 Derp_Pig Its been awhile O: com'on guys!
03:26 thefamilygrog66 I'm so making a magical bear mod. :)
03:26 Derp_Pig ...
03:27 ShadowNinja Derp_Pig: No insult intended, it's just funny to think of them as something so inocent sounding.
03:27 thefamilygrog66 Sorry, my last mod was magic beans - change one letter...
03:28 Derp_Pig Oh ok
03:28 Derp_Pig I know
03:28 Derp_Pig They were pretty annoying
03:28 Derp_Pig :/
03:28 thefamilygrog66 They keep burning my server, even with fire disabled, those jerks.
03:30 Derp_Pig Yeah
03:31 Derp_Pig Im hope they game is playable with my gamepad, i dont feel like going downstairs to my PC
03:31 Derp_Pig and its 11:30
03:31 Derp_Pig so you can see why
03:33 thefamilygrog66 Hey, same timezone.
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03:34 Derp_Pig Nicee
03:35 Derp_Pig I am about to install minetest
03:35 diemartin he's alive!
03:35 Derp_Pig This is intense
03:36 thefamilygrog66 Which server are you on VanessaE - creative or survival?
03:36 VanessaE neither at the moment
03:36 thefamilygrog66 ahh
03:37 VanessaE I'm testing out Mossmannikin/Neuromancer's Undergrowth modpack
03:37 VanessaE I'm starting to like it
03:37 thefamilygrog66 Simonster wants me to make a mod somehow involving Adventure Time - not sure where to start.
03:37 thefamilygrog66 Cool.
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03:39 dafull97 Hey guys, first message in Xubuntu... =D
03:39 VanessaE hey
03:40 Derp_Pig VanessaE does minetest have gamepad support so i dont waste time in the profiler?
03:40 NakedFury no
03:40 VanessaE no
03:40 Derp_Pig ok thanks
03:40 VanessaE but you can use a key<->joy emulator
03:40 Derp_Pig yeah
03:41 Derp_Pig im using the logitech profiler
03:41 Derp_Pig :D
03:41 VanessaE idk what that is
03:42 Derp_Pig it lets you set what the buttons do for the gamepad... like i would set square for i so i opens the invitory, blah blah you get the point lol
03:44 Derp_Pig ok its all set
03:44 Derp_Pig Cant wait!
03:44 Derp_Pig bye!
03:46 dafull97 VanessaE, so i have a Question... again... haha
03:46 VanessaE hm?
03:46 dafull97 How would i install minetest on Xubuntu?
03:46 dafull97 i remember you helped someone out earlier, haha =P
03:47 VanessaE https://launchpad.net/~minete​stdevs/+archive/daily-builds
03:47 VanessaE install that PPA
03:47 thefamilygrog66 Or compile it: http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
03:47 thefamilygrog66 Depends if you want the daily build, or stable.
03:47 dafull97 T hanks
03:49 VanessaE stable indeed...
03:49 VanessaE such a thought ;)
03:50 thefamilygrog66 haha
03:51 thefamilygrog66 my server is running stable, and I start to drown while climbing ladders or standing in doorways
03:51 thefamilygrog66 o_O
03:52 VanessaE weird
03:54 thefamilygrog66 basically, if the player is occupying a node space in which there is another node, even one that is only partial (e.g. ladder, rope, etc.) it interprets it as though you were in a solid node and you start losing air
03:54 VanessaE you sure there isn't some mod doing that?
03:54 VanessaE because that sounds more like some suffocation-type mod..
03:55 thefamilygrog66 pretty sure I don't have the suffocation mod installed :P
03:55 thefamilygrog66 it only behaves that way when I'm using a daily build client on the 0.4.7 server
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03:57 thefamilygrog66 hey, can any node be climbable, provided I include climbable = true, when I registr the node?
03:57 thefamilygrog66 *register
03:58 VanessaE I think so, yes
03:58 thefamilygrog66 Cool - adding beanstalks is gonna be a lot easier than I thought
03:59 thefamilygrog66 no parkour jumping required
03:59 VanessaE hah
04:00 thefamilygrog66 not sure what to put at the top yet - cloud maybe, but that's pretty permanent
04:01 VanessaE fake it.  make your own block with the cloud texture
04:01 VanessaE make it require a bucket to scoop up ;)
04:01 thefamilygrog66 haha, cool
04:02 thefamilygrog66 I made the majority of roads on my server out of cloud, using worldedit
04:02 VanessaE hell of a way to lay roadbed :
04:02 VanessaE :)
04:03 thefamilygrog66 and added a custom compass block at intersections
04:03 thefamilygrog66 yep!
04:11 clarksallador ahmm hi?
04:11 ShadowNinja VanessaE, thefamilygrog66: That is a known bug with some older servers with newer clients.
04:11 VanessaE hi clarksallador
04:11 thefamilygrog66 cool, thanks ShadowNinja - good to know
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04:13 dafull97 sup guys?
04:15 dafull97 VanessaE, say my name im testing a IRC client
04:15 VanessaE dafull97: er, ok
04:15 VanessaE there.
04:16 dafull97 Thanks, works... im testing XChat on Xubuntu =D
04:17 VanessaE I use xchat.
04:18 thefamilygrog66 webchat.freenode.net
04:18 thefamilygrog66 lazy
04:18 thefamilygrog66 can't even type complete sentences, hah
04:19 thefamilygrog66 Also, I'm starting to fade - night folks.
04:19 dafull97 Really? on what?
04:19 dafull97 and night familygrog
04:19 zat Isn’t it odd that you dig stone and get cobblestone?
04:20 VanessaE why not>?
04:20 VanessaE you have to break the stone to dig it
04:21 VanessaE ergo you get broken up stones, hence cobble
04:21 dafull97 VanessaE, i cannot start after adding repositories... command sudo apt-get install minetestc55
04:22 dafull97 and then minetest, wont start?
04:22 VanessaE run it from a terminal
04:22 VanessaE see what error comes up
04:22 dafull97 i did
04:22 dafull97 bash: /usr/games/minetest: No such file or directory
04:22 VanessaE close the terminal and open a new one
04:22 VanessaE sometimes it will do that when you install a program
04:23 VanessaE and just, "minetest" without any path
04:23 * dafull97 Bows to VanessaE
04:23 dafull97 it works =P
04:23 VanessaE of course :)
04:24 dafull97 haha, one the best troubleshooters ;)
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04:27 kahrl VanessaE: I think "hash -r" would fix that too, instead of reopening the terminal
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04:27 dafull97 yea probably... im a little nublish sometimes
04:28 VanessaE hash eh?
04:29 VanessaE heh, didn't know about that one
04:29 VanessaE maybe you mean bash -r?
04:29 VanessaE no that ain't it...
04:29 * VanessaE shrugs
04:30 kahrl no, actually hash -r
04:30 kahrl but telling someone to reopen the terminal is easier :)
04:30 VanessaE huh.  no manpage for the hash command.  explains why I didn't know about it :P
04:31 kahrl it's a shell builtin, I have a manpage for it though (explains the POSIX requirements)
04:32 kahrl so "help hash" should show the help
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04:45 zat VanessaE: Yes, you have to indeed break the stone, still, when I dig planks I get them whole, when I dig on glass I get it whole, etc... inconsistent to me.
04:45 * VanessaE shrugs
04:45 VanessaE that's just the way it is :P
04:47 * dafull97 is listening to Skillet - One Day too late
04:49 dafull97 who likes skillet?
04:50 VanessaE never heard of 'em
04:50 VanessaE modern music...bleah... get off my lawn, etc.
04:51 dafull97 like Rock?
04:51 dafull97 or pop?
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04:56 dafull97 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNEC735juI4 - best song made by skillet! Pop/Rock
04:57 dafull97 im falling asleep, good night
05:19 clarksallador can i ask?
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05:23 VanessaE just assk
05:24 VanessaE ask*
05:28 clarksallador ahmm how do you make a server here?
05:28 VanessaE this should help:  http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Setting_up_a_server
05:29 VanessaE basically, it boils down to...create a world, run the server program the the right switches to specify the game type, world name, location of log and config files, etc.  and open up your router or modem to outside connections.
05:30 VanessaE s/the the/with the/
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05:35 werwerwer does anybody here succeed in compilation minetest on windows with mingw and sound enabled and actually get sound?
05:39 diemartin http://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2223#comic
05:49 cy1 Any fun servers?
05:53 VanessaE mine :_)
05:53 VanessaE :)
06:15 werwerwer there's no fun servers. only survival and creative
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06:17 VanessaE mine's fun :(
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06:48 sfan5 !op
06:48 sfan5 :-/
06:52 us|0gb Sorry sfan5, you're no longer allowed to do that.
06:52 sfan5 I am
06:52 us|0gb Then why is the command not working?
06:53 sfan5 but there is no reverse lookup for the IPv6 of minetest.ru, that results in my hostname not matching the one in the config
06:53 sfan5 s/hostname/hostmask/
06:53 us|0gb Ah, I see. No host mask then.
06:53 us|0gb Never mind.
06:54 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released; 0.4.8 will be released soon™ | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Don't ask about asking questions.
06:54 us|0gb Why is your mask off if you are logged in? I don't understand.
06:54 us|0gb What does reverse lookup have to do with masks?
06:56 sfan5 sfan5!*@2a01:4f8:151:8106::2 doesn't match sfan5!~sfan5@minetest.ru
06:56 sfan5 it is the other way around now actually
06:57 us|0gb Okay, so it is host names not masks then.
06:57 sfan5 I still need to add the new modules so I could actually fix that now
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06:59 sfan5 !op
07:00 sfan5 !deop
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07:27 GNADev|zRokh hi, i has a question about tools...
07:27 GNADev|zRokh how do i get if the tool has 1 use left?
07:28 us|0gb You'd have to do math. You can't get a number of uses back, just an amount of wear.
07:29 GNADev|zRokh ?
07:29 us|0gb You can't get back a number of uses the tool has left.
07:30 us|0gb You can oly get back how much health the tool has left, which isn't the same number.
07:30 us|0gb *only
07:31 GNADev|zRokh oh....... so how do i get its health?
07:31 GNADev|zRokh or better yet...
07:32 GNADev|zRokh i need to first have a tool with unlimited uses, then limit that use with a function, then after 7 uses it will be unlimited again
07:32 GNADev|zRokh oh, and change the description of the tool every time the tool has been used
07:32 GNADev|zRokh possibru?
07:32 us|0gb WHat do you mean by limit the tool?
07:33 us|0gb As for descriptions, they cannot change, but you can swap the tool out for an identical one with a different description.
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07:35 GNADev|zRokh 1. The empty tool is given
07:35 GNADev|zRokh 2. If a player has at least 12 of a certain items (bullets) in the inventory, the tool will be took away (on use) and given the loaded item that has 12 uses (reloaded gun)
07:35 GNADev|zRokh 3. after 12 uses the tool is gone and the empty tool is given
07:36 GNADev|zRokh i need the minetest.* stuff
07:36 GNADev|zRokh do you get what im saying?
07:37 werwerwer if anybody cares  - to make sounds work on windows you need some "wrap_oal.dll" %)
07:37 us|0gb I don't know what you mean by "minetest.* stuff", but the rest is possible.
07:37 us|0gb Hmm. It will take effort though.
07:38 us|0gb First, the empty gun. You;ll need to use the on_use() property to load the bullets.
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07:38 GNADev|zRokh i know that, but thanks you, still...
07:38 GNADev|zRokh now question: how do i take away 12 bullets?
07:39 GNADev|zRokh or if 12 bullets arent in the players inventory, then do nothing
07:39 us|0gb Take the bullets in the on_use() function after checking to see if the player has enough in their inventory.
07:39 GNADev|zRokh thats the point, idk how to check the inv
07:39 GNADev|zRokh oh, and btw, what could i use instead of gunpowder?
07:39 GNADev|zRokh coal?
07:40 GNADev|zRokh or make gravel give gunpowder
07:40 us|0gb player.get_inventory(), I think.
07:40 GNADev|zRokh a 1/3 chance
07:40 GNADev|zRokh wait... now i know what im looking for
07:40 werwerwer use gunpowder fron tnt mod
07:41 GNADev|zRokh nah, i dont want tnt, i made C4
07:41 GNADev|zRokh :D
07:42 GNADev|zRokh i have the node ready, working on the explosion etc...
07:43 werwerwer well, if you use tnt-compatible gunpowder (which is made of gravel and coal) that would be great
07:46 GNADev|zRokh wait.... gravel and coal... GENIUS, thanks :D
07:46 GNADev|zRokh {coal, gravel, coal} (shapeless) == gunpowder
07:46 GNADev|zRokh :D
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07:50 GNADev|zRokh hey, can a craftitem be type = "fuel" ?
07:53 kahrl GNADev|zRokh: sure
07:55 GNADev|zRokh :D
07:55 GNADev|zRokh gunpowder + flame == BOOM :D
07:57 GNADev|zRokh hey, could somebody help me make textures?
07:57 GNADev|zRokh plz?
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08:08 GNADev|zRokh kaeza, do you make textures?
08:08 GNADev|zRokh and if so, then could you make textures for Terror?
08:17 kaeza yes, and nope
08:17 GNADev|zRokh why?
08:17 kaeza ...
08:18 GNADev|zRokh i suck at texturing.....
08:21 GNADev|zRokh please?
08:22 kaeza too busy
08:23 GNADev|zRokh us|0gb i wanna make a defuse kit, the C4 is not diggable, so do i do if pointed_thing == terror:c4 ?
08:23 GNADev|zRokh <:\
08:23 us|0gb That sounds right.
08:23 us|0gb Wait, no it doesn't.
08:23 GNADev|zRokh i know
08:23 GNADev|zRokh idk how the syntax is... :/
08:24 GNADev|zRokh i just did it like i thought
08:24 us|0gb You need to get the name of the node at pointed_thing.under.
08:24 GNADev|zRokh oh......
08:24 us|0gb I think it's this:
08:25 us|0gb if minetest.get_node(pointed_thing.under).name == "terror:c4" then
08:25 us|0gb I might have some of the names wrong, you'll have to check the API doc.
08:26 kaeza do I detect a CS mod?
08:27 GNADev|zRokh kinda :D
08:27 GNADev|zRokh its called Terror
08:27 us|0gb "CS" is what?
08:27 GNADev|zRokh Schfifty five
08:27 GNADev|zRokh Counter Strike
08:27 GNADev|zRokh a HL1 mod
08:27 GNADev|zRokh FPS
08:27 us|0gb Ah, got it.
08:28 kaeza rather, a Minetest mod to mimic CS gameplay
08:28 kaeza (you can make a CS mod to mimic Minetest gameplay :P)
08:28 GNADev|zRokh 0gb, kaeza, wanna listen to a great song? http://youtu.be/kFF3pVOHtoA?t=40s
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08:28 GNADev|zRokh i know
08:28 GNADev|zRokh .amxx :D
08:30 us|0gb What the heck was that?
08:31 GNADev|zRokh :D
08:32 GNADev|zRokh it was Schfifty Five
08:32 us|0gb Yeah, I got that much.
08:32 GNADev|zRokh my gf's age is schfifty five
08:32 Calinou >implying you have a gf
08:32 us|0gb I'm not convinced that's a number.
08:33 GNADev|zRokh yes it is, its schfifty schfifty schifty!
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08:34 us|0gb ...
08:35 us|0gb I'm not even convinced that's a word.
08:37 GNADev|zRokh :D
08:42 Jordach btw, whoever moded the making an npc by xyro fire needs their ass kicked: remember to remove the redirect when moving posts
08:42 Jordach moved*
08:43 GNADev|zRokh WII Sports Club, every single sport costs 10$/sport and they are all digital and not tied to your WII account but to the single console. if the console breaks you have to re-buy every single sport for 10$/sport
08:44 VanessaE Jordach:  wasn't me but why the fuck can't we just disable that stupid flag by default?  it's too easy to forget it.
08:44 Jordach dammit Calinou or sfan5
08:44 Jordach get yer brains in gear
08:45 * Jordach prepares a slap
08:46 * GNADev|zRokh slaps Jordach
08:46 GNADev|zRokh What's wrong with you, Robin?!
08:47 * Jordach slaps GNADev|zRokh with !kick
08:48 GNADev|zRokh :D
08:48 Jordach !!mute is more painful
08:48 Jordach you get to listen but not speak
08:49 GNADev|zRokh ouch......
08:49 * Jordach noticed alot of OSS uses orange as a colour
08:50 kaeza > alot
08:50 Jordach a lot*
08:50 us|0gb THough some, such as Clementine, use it as a fruit.
08:50 Calinou more like gray
08:50 GNADev|zRokh Karma's a bitch
08:51 GNADev|zRokh CapCom is going bankrupt :D
08:51 kaeza old news
08:51 kaeza and sad too :(
08:51 GNADev|zRokh how sad?
08:52 Jordach vlc, blender, clementine, he/xchat, LO Impress/Draw <- can list right now
08:52 GNADev|zRokh Capcom wants to make DLC bigger
08:52 sfan5 Jordach: hm?
08:52 Jordach they're idiots: everyone wants a 2d Megaman game
08:52 kaeza doesn't matter
08:52 Jordach sfan5, did you move xyro_fire's post
08:52 kaeza Jordach, +1
08:52 * GNADev|zRokh wants a 1D DumbassMan game :D
08:52 Calinou <GNADev|zRokh> Karma's a bitch
08:52 Calinou says the guy that doesn't use reddit
08:52 Jordach !kick...
08:52 sfan5 Jordach: which post?
08:52 GNADev|zRokh NOOO! i could use Reddit
08:53 Jordach sfan5, making an npc that was in FD
08:53 Jordach you left a re-direct
08:53 GNADev|zRokh Jordach, do you know who's the Black Buster Critic
08:53 sfan5 I did not move any topic about NPCs
08:53 Jordach sfan5, okay, dammit Calinou
08:56 * Jordach waits two years for LO to get going..
08:58 Jordach even with the quickstarter, it takes an age if you dont often use LO
09:02 * GNADev|zRokh is watching a video about a grown man wanting to have sex with Bart Simpson... WTF
09:03 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, shush
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09:11 sfan5 wait what? https://twitter.com/Dinnerbo​ne/status/383724382079954944
09:12 sfan5 apparently mc wants to use strings to name blocks too
09:13 Calinou yeah, bad ones
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09:20 Jordach > 95 = minecraft:chest_locked_aprilfools_super_​old_legacy_we_should_not_even_have_this
09:20 Jordach oh look, they're copying us again
09:22 Jordach and yet they don't have a /giveme
09:24 * Jordach evilly laughs
09:24 * GNADev|zRokh is grossed out because SolidMario wants to have sex with Bart and he thinks he has a cute butt.... >:S
09:25 Jordach shut it GNADev|zRokh
09:25 Calinou GNADev|zRokh: no thanks.
09:25 GNADev|zRokh hey, anybody wanna play MT online with me?
09:25 Jordach you want me to mute you for a few hours and set my user mode to +r
09:25 Jordach because i will.
09:25 GNADev|zRokh +r? whats that?
09:26 Jordach something you wont be able to bypass with normal means
09:27 GNADev|zRokh tempting....... but nah! imma continue Syntax :P
09:30 Jordach hehe, my joker is genius
09:30 Jordach AWW SHIT
09:31 * Jordach has to re-do MinetestBot's model
09:31 Jordach she's still a Gen 2
09:33 Jordach btw, my joker card: http://i.imgur.com/6XiJrke.png
09:34 Jordach (afaik, the cards should come out as pixels
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09:38 us|0gb Jordach, I like that ten card. It's clever.
09:39 Jordach us|0gb, that was the point
09:40 Jordach (actually I ran out of space on the 64x64 card to fit another 16x texture in, so i used the block)
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09:41 * GNADev|zRokh is back
09:41 Jordach oh ffs
09:42 arsdragonfly Jordach turn some ingots on those cards upside down
09:42 Jordach arsdragonfly, i didn't keep the cards as xcfs
09:42 Jordach i saved them as png's on output
09:42 arsdragonfly oh
09:43 Jordach arsdragonfly, but anyone can read the numbers on the sides
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09:44 markveidemanis Just to confirm: Am I Un-Banned?
09:44 Jordach joining the channel = unbanned
09:44 Jordach a message would occur if you did
09:44 arsdragonfly just a minor tweak :P
09:44 Jordach were*(
09:44 Jordach -)
09:44 Jordach -(*
09:46 Jordach Calinou, your joker card is done ;)
09:46 markveidemanis <MinetestBot> You are banned! // *Kicked by MinetestBot
09:46 Jordach you're here
09:46 markveidemanis Ok, good
09:46 Jordach being in this channel with the ability to talk is not banned
09:47 markveidemanis Hmm...
09:47 markveidemanis Is MasterBot unbanned too?
09:47 arsdragonfly long time no see markveidemanis
09:47 markveidemanis Hi %nick !
09:48 Jordach markveidemanis, checking
09:48 markveidemanis His nick is not on the list but whoa, thats a lot of ips!
09:49 markveidemanis I have not been here for quite a few monthsa
09:49 markveidemanis *months
09:50 Jordach MasterBot is clear
09:50 Jordach just checked on the ban listings
09:51 markveidemanis In that time i got a 3GHz Dual-Core PC with 4GB RAM but im having problems running Xubuntu on it, as i  dont have an integrated wireless card, i have to use a TP-LINK TL-WDN3200 to access the internet from windows. However the chipsets provided for it on linux cut out after a randim time
09:51 markveidemanis Yea, and the keyboard on the new pc is different :P
09:52 Calinou use ethernet then
09:53 markveidemanis Hmm?
09:53 markveidemanis Cable is too short!
09:53 markveidemanis and will cause a hazard
09:53 Calinou 20 meters
09:53 markveidemanis going accross the width of the corridor, up the stairs, and into my room
09:53 Calinou there are 20 meters cables
09:53 Jordach markveidemanis, i can get 15m for ~£15 in most Computer Stors
09:53 Calinou possibly even more
09:53 markveidemanis Im not gonna measure it
09:53 Jordach Stores*
09:53 Calinou I use 20 meter cable :P
09:54 Jordach Calinou, 15 over here
09:54 Jordach because 15 was the perfect length to reach my machine
09:54 markveidemanis I know theres a way
09:54 markveidemanis The dongle worked for a bit in xubuntu
09:55 markveidemanis Who has OpenArena/Sauerbraten/nexuiz/garrys mod 11/13/assaultcube/hl2 deathmatch?
09:55 Calinou 15m was enough for me, but not by much
09:55 markveidemanis Ive been busy these months!
09:55 Calinou I have oa, sauer, assaultcube
09:55 * Calinou finds Red Eclipse better than Sauerbraten
09:55 markveidemanis Lets play one of them
09:55 Calinou http://redeclipse.net
09:56 markveidemanis I had it a while ago
09:56 markveidemanis Lets do oa instead
09:56 markveidemanis Simple
09:57 markveidemanis what port do i  forward?
09:57 markveidemanis also whats your machine calinou?
09:57 Calinou what's my machine?
09:57 Calinou a self built PC
09:58 markveidemanis specs
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09:58 Calinou http://paste.ubuntu.com/6166231/
09:58 Calinou lol "Display Driver: vesa 2.3.2"
09:58 arsdragonfly Jordach why is minecraft copying minetest "again"?
09:59 markveidemanis I am jealous
09:59 markveidemanis 1920...
09:59 markveidemanis 1366x768
09:59 Calinou full HD screens cost ~150€ these days
09:59 Calinou at best
09:59 us|0gb Because Minecraft knows how cool Minetest is, and wants to be as cool itself.
09:59 markveidemanis with a 1440x900 in the cupboard!
09:59 markveidemanis But its blurry!!!
09:59 Calinou markveidemanis: be happy, I'm jealous of other people for other reasons
09:59 Calinou more important ones
09:59 markveidemanis ..
09:59 markveidemanis Exterior?
09:59 arsdragonfly I mean , has it done copying before?
10:00 Calinou exterior?
10:00 markveidemanis screw the forwarding im hosting oa on 30000
10:01 markveidemanis Whats a hostname?
10:01 markveidemanis localhost:30000?
10:01 us|0gb I don't know all what they've copied from "Minetest", but I know some of it wasn't from Minetest proprer, but from community plugins. I think they copied VanessaE's flower pots, for example.
10:01 us|0gb *proper
10:02 Calinou they are 3D, they didn't
10:02 Calinou one of their new flowers looks quite similar to Minetest tulip :P
10:02 arsdragonfly actually they've always been copying from the community :P
10:03 arsdragonfly from pistons to horses
10:05 Calinou except that they nerfed ALL the thing
10:05 Calinou +s
10:06 markveidemanis 86.137.37.21
10:06 markveidemanis On openarena
10:06 * arsdragonfly tried using a real nerf gun a few days ago
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10:07 GNADev|zRokh who uses wine?
10:07 GNADev|zRokh or windows
10:07 arsdragonfly and got a deeper understanding of the word :D
10:07 Jordach i'll drink it, but it isn't as nice as beer
10:07 markveidemanis I have windows
10:08 GNADev|zRokh i have a problem: i try to run AOS with wine and i get an error: Initdirectinput failed: 80040154
10:08 Calinou markveidemanis: port 30000? does not work
10:08 Calinou default port doesn't either
10:08 markveidemanis 279760
10:08 markveidemanis default even
10:08 Calinou nope doesn't work
10:08 markveidemanis why dont you host
10:08 markveidemanis :P
10:08 arsdragonfly I had them closed 'cause it's a bit cold outside
10:08 Calinou GNADev|zRokh: try OpenSpades :)
10:08 Calinou open source client for AOS
10:08 Calinou works on all OSes
10:09 GNADev|zRokh WOAH :D
10:09 GNADev|zRokh thanks
10:09 arsdragonfly zRokh what's your resolution?
10:09 markveidemanis How about some Gmod 11?
10:09 GNADev|zRokh freespades.sourceforge.net?
10:09 markveidemanis anyone?
10:09 GNADev|zRokh idk
10:10 arsdragonfly iirc only 640*480,800*600,and 1024*768 work fine
10:10 arsdragonfly or you'll have a directdraw error
10:10 VanessaE us|0gb: actually, they're ironzorg's flowerpots, not mine. :)
10:10 us|0gb My bad.
10:11 GNADev|zRokh i have a directinput error, not a directdraw error
10:11 arsdragonfly oh
10:12 arsdragonfly then I have no idea :(
10:12 markveidemanis garrys mod uses half life 2 port right?
10:13 GNADev|zRokh calinou, i cant find OpenSpades anywhere :/
10:13 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, hold on
10:13 Jordach i have a binary lying in my mediafire
10:13 GNADev|zRokh wait i think i found iot
10:13 GNADev|zRokh it*
10:13 GNADev|zRokh this it: https://sites.google.com/a/​yvt.jp/openspades/downloads ?
10:13 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, there's a bug in the windows version
10:14 Jordach which occurs in 0.0.8b
10:14 GNADev|zRokh 0.0.8b?
10:14 GNADev|zRokh you mean the client version?
10:14 Jordach i just happen to have a fixed build, and yes
10:14 GNADev|zRokh or AOS version?
10:14 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/download/gi552p​v9wdtvjet/OpenSpades-0.0.8b-Windows.zip
10:14 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, OpenSpads
10:14 GNADev|zRokh oh ok........
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10:19 jrabbit http://i.imgur.com/EjzuF6Y.png :(
10:19 jrabbit what happened
10:19 jrabbit --verbose isn't telling me anything useful
10:19 GNADev|zRokh thanks Jordach :)
10:19 GNADev|zRokh bbl
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10:20 nore hi all
10:20 us|0gb Hello!
10:22 Calinou hi
10:23 Calinou jrabbit: old version :/
10:23 us|0gb Hello!
10:23 Calinou latest is 0.4.7, and you should use git
10:23 jrabbit Calinou: I can try that
10:23 jrabbit (i'm just using whats in debian)
10:23 jrabbit it was workign grea
10:23 jrabbit then bam everythign is grey
10:23 jrabbit lol
10:26 Jordach hey nore
10:28 jrabbit Calinou: Ill try a newer version
10:29 jrabbit Calinou: same thing with 4.7
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10:30 VanessaE jrabbit:  zero point four point seven
10:30 jrabbit sure
10:31 Jordach got very bored: http://i.imgur.com/TFHUtyp.png
10:32 jrabbit 7load new world- works fine
10:32 jrabbit >_>
10:32 Jordach nearly 100% accurate copy of the one sitting in legacy
10:32 jrabbit sooo is the other one fucked?
10:32 Jordach jrabbit, possibly
10:32 jrabbit :(
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10:32 Jordach hey Krock
10:32 Calinou krock block
10:32 Calinou </TF2 achievement>
10:32 Krock hi
10:33 jrabbit the new version in debian sid/unstablre driftds left for no reason
10:34 Jordach just banned a spammer with the message: no spamming your shitty jewelery
10:34 Calinou lol
10:34 markveidemanis Also in the time i have developed my website at http://marktest.co.uk and am looking for some publicity
10:34 Jordach markveidemanis, no, not here
10:35 Jordach that's why you were banned before
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10:35 markveidemanis ...
10:35 markveidemanis I have started a fresh and promise only to mention it this once
10:35 markveidemanis I need help getting publicity. If you are not interested I wont tell you again.
10:36 jrabbit strange... happenign in the previous version
10:36 jrabbit gah
10:36 Jordach markveidemanis: google for website forums, and ask for advice etc
10:36 Jordach that's where you should start, not here
10:37 markveidemanis webuser.co.uk?
10:38 Jordach fun fact: i have about $120 worth of free AdWords
10:38 Jordach google keeps giving me the money for free :P
10:38 us|0gb How did you get them to do that?
10:39 * us|0gb could use an ad budget
10:39 Jordach us|0gb, sign up for google adwords but don't buy
10:40 Jordach they'll eventually give you a code
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10:40 us|0gb I did sign up with a code I got one time, and I've never gotten a code again.
10:40 sfan5 wow, unitys 2nd monitor support is really buggy
10:41 sfan5 if I open a context menu it shows the side dock and top bar even if vlc on the 2nd screen is in fullscreen
10:41 sfan5 (open a context menu on the first screen)
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10:41 Jordach lol, i'm more imaginative when bored
10:41 sfan5 (shows the side dock and top bar on the 2nd screen)
10:44 Jordach sfan5, lol
10:44 Jordach unity sucks
10:44 Jordach get over it
10:44 Jordach use xfce or kde
10:45 us|0gb Xfce is nice, as are GNOME2, MATE, and Cinnamon.
10:46 Jordach Cinnamon ftw
10:46 Jordach nothing can beat it
10:47 Calinou xfce is best pony
10:47 * Calinou gallops away
10:48 kahrl jrabbit: maybe you got teleported outside the world for some reason
10:49 kahrl try /teleport 0,0,0
10:50 Jordach there's a simple reason why I don't like exploring caves with simple mobs: http://i.imgur.com/IACCO0O.png
10:50 jrabbit kahrl: that was it!
10:50 jrabbit the mouse is still drifting to the left
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10:50 jrabbit in that world and a second
10:50 jrabbit but not a third
10:50 jrabbit :x
10:51 GNADev|zRokh Jordach, do you play OpenSpades?
10:51 GNADev|zRokh because i could use some help :/
10:51 Jordach yes, but i use a different name there
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10:52 GNADev|zRokh ok, so i set the bitColors to 16, bitDepth to 16, size to 600x400
10:52 GNADev|zRokh but it still lags
10:52 GNADev|zRokh and crashes
10:52 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:52 Jordach <PilzAdam> Hello everyone!
10:52 Jordach FUCK..
10:52 us|0gb Hello!
10:52 GNADev|zRokh but mainly lags
10:52 GNADev|zRokh like 10fps
10:52 Jordach i hit enter as PilzAdam hit enter
10:52 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, which server
10:52 GNADev|zRokh in a 2 player server
10:52 Jordach umm
10:52 Jordach no idea
10:52 GNADev|zRokh me + one more
10:52 GNADev|zRokh hi PA
10:52 Jordach you sure that GPU has enough RAM
10:52 GNADev|zRokh :D
10:52 GNADev|zRokh 512MB... :D
10:53 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, should be enough, I have 512
10:53 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, disable shaders
10:53 GNADev|zRokh i did
10:53 GNADev|zRokh i disabled particles, wait...
10:53 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, make it look like this: http://i.imgur.com/nyyD0jD.png
10:53 GNADev|zRokh HQ Postprocess is off, blood is off, shader effects are low, lightning is low
10:53 GNADev|zRokh eax is off
10:54 Jordach global illumination
10:54 Jordach turn that off
10:54 GNADev|zRokh off
10:54 Jordach hmm
10:54 GNADev|zRokh by default
10:54 GNADev|zRokh everything is off
10:54 GNADev|zRokh im also in windowed
10:54 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, THERE WE GO
10:54 Jordach FULLSCREEN = 60fps on my end
10:54 GNADev|zRokh woah!
10:54 GNADev|zRokh O.O
10:55 GNADev|zRokh what server?
10:55 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, any
10:55 GNADev|zRokh O.O
10:55 GNADev|zRokh 32 player?
10:55 Jordach some maps like Super Cool Build with lots of blocks are the only way I slowdown
10:55 GNADev|zRokh to what fps?
10:55 GNADev|zRokh 10?
10:55 GNADev|zRokh 20?
10:55 Jordach any other time it's butter smooth, PilzAdam, sfan5 and ShadowNinja can attest that with full shaders
10:56 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, they get 60
10:56 GNADev|zRokh >:O
10:56 * GNADev|zRokh needs a new PC
10:56 Jordach even my GeForce 6200 is ancient by today's standards, but even I get a better fps
10:56 GNADev|zRokh well wait a sec... let me get my stats...
10:57 markveidemanis http://forum.webuser.co.uk/showt​hread.php?p=1054633#post1054633
10:57 GNADev|zRokh oh, and btw, i think i got this PC at the same time CSS was released.....
10:57 markveidemanis Can minetest do more that 60 fps?
10:57 GNADev|zRokh so thats a long time...
10:57 markveidemanis I cant seem to make it go over
10:57 GNADev|zRokh on my pc, no
10:58 GNADev|zRokh it gets like 20-25
10:58 markveidemanis Whats your specs?
10:58 GNADev|zRokh idk... 512MB ram, 80GB storage....
10:58 GNADev|zRokh Linux Trisquel 6.0 mini
10:59 GNADev|zRokh dont even think about it!
10:59 markveidemanis processor??
10:59 GNADev|zRokh idk...
10:59 GNADev|zRokh prob. not good....
10:59 GNADev|zRokh the pc is as old as CSS....
11:00 markveidemanis do lscpu
11:00 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, if you compile OpenSpades natively, you'll get better FPS than in Wine
11:00 GNADev|zRokh where is the source code?
11:00 Jordach !g openspades github
11:00 MinetestBot Jordach: https://github.com/yvt/openspades
11:00 Jordach ^ there
11:00 GNADev|zRokh thanks dood
11:00 Jordach PilzAdam has instructions on building it
11:00 GNADev|zRokh ShadowNinja?
11:01 GNADev|zRokh O.O
11:01 Jordach https://gist.github.com/Pil​zAdam/813b7add5cc4d7ad41b6
11:01 GNADev|zRokh who started OpenSpades?
11:01 Jordach yvt
11:01 Jordach AoS didn't work on a Mac, so he made his own
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11:02 Jordach hey Dan_D
11:02 Dan_D Hi guys
11:02 Jordach Dan_D, are you dandy right now?
11:02 * Jordach runs
11:02 Dan_D Anything interesting been happening while I was gone?
11:02 Jordach nope.avi
11:03 GNADev|zRokh Jordach, who is yvt?
11:03 Dan_D Ok
11:03 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, some japanese(?) AoS player with a Mac
11:03 PilzAdam read it as "Im too lazy to read logs, tell me what happened!"
11:03 Jordach that's all I know
11:03 GNADev|zRokh oh
11:03 GNADev|zRokh :D
11:03 GNADev|zRokh :D to PilzAdam :D
11:03 Dan_D BD
11:07 GNADev|zRokh DB**
11:08 Dan_D Is Mg_name indev the old version of mapgen,before v6?
11:09 Jordach indev has some new shit including floating islands
11:09 GNADev|zRokh Do the peanut butter jelly with a baseball bat
11:09 GNADev|zRokh <3
11:10 Jordach dont make me kick you as a warning GNADev|zRokh
11:10 GNADev|zRokh ok.....
11:10 Jordach because you're getting repetitive with nonsense
11:10 GNADev|zRokh but can i ask you something?
11:10 GNADev|zRokh what time is it?
11:10 Jordach get fucked.
11:11 Jordach im not falling in a trap.
11:11 GNADev|zRokh It's actually...
11:11 GNADev|zRokh Peanut butter jelly time
11:11 GNADev|zRokh ok, bye
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11:15 Dan_D Why is it that with system wide Minetest install on linux I have to make the texturesfolder and the game folder, because the ones created are not deleteable or moveable? That is stupid.
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11:17 GNADev|zRokh Jordach, i found a video of Schfifty Five
11:17 GNADev|zRokh a real video not an animation :D
11:19 GNADev|zRokh Jordach do you like Dubstep?
11:19 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, shut it
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11:19 Jordach i've tired of your bs
11:19 PilzAdam Dan_D, do you try to mess arround in /usr/share/ ?
11:20 Dan_D Yes, but I can'tpaste,move or delete anything in there
11:20 PilzAdam you shouldnt do that
11:21 Dan_D So I made a new folder in .minetest
11:21 PilzAdam where?
11:21 Dan_D A new games folder in daniel/.minetest
11:21 PilzAdam what is the whole path?
11:21 GNADev|zRokh Dan_D, do you like Dubstep? i'll PM you a Youtube link :P
11:21 PilzAdam !mute GNADev|zRokh
11:21 Dan_D PilzAdam, how do I get the whole path?
11:22 Dan_D It is the folder with the downloads folder int it,
11:22 PilzAdam pwd
11:22 Dan_D And it also has .minetest
11:22 PilzAdam I guess you are new to Linux?
11:22 Dan_D Yep
11:22 Dan_D Xubuntu
11:22 PilzAdam I suggest you to learn how to use it first
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11:23 Dan_D How can I learn without being able to use it to learn? I have had it just over a day.
11:25 markveidemanis Dan_D, want some help with linux? I have used Ubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, and some other small ones, they are quite similar
11:25 Dan_D Not nowI dont think
11:26 Dan_D But maybe in future
11:26 markveidemanis maybe first thing you want to do is drag the bar at the top to the bottom, it looks better
11:26 Dan_D The bar thingy at the top? I like it there
11:26 Dan_D Although on Windows I like the start bar at the side
11:27 PilzAdam markveidemanis, wow! so helpful! now he really knows how to use linux!
11:27 Dan_D Should I remove iron from Minetest Nostalgia?
11:28 markveidemanis PilaAdam, be patient
11:28 Dan_D Because in the first Minetest release, the ore spawns, and drops lumps, but doesn'tdo anything beyond that. I added ingots and pickaxe
11:50 Jordach ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
11:50 Jordach cold seat
11:52 Jordach dear lord https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=112386#p112386
11:53 Jordach > V4.06
11:54 Jordach im changing that to 0.4.6 so no-body gets confused over it
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12:03 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=112367#p112367
12:03 VanessaE \o/
12:10 arsdragonfly lol
12:11 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/screenshot_1685639558.png
12:11 nore I village with too many inns...
12:11 VanessaE haha
12:11 VanessaE playing Monopoly in MT or something? ;)
12:11 VanessaE "Ok, I'll build a hotel on Park Place..."
12:11 nore I counted 7 of them
12:12 nore and 3 pubs too
12:12 VanessaE "and another on Boardwalk"...
12:12 VanessaE :P
12:13 nore I get those messages randomly when running Minetest
12:13 * Jordach takes a HDX and throws it on the fire
12:13 nore radeon: The kernel rejected CS, see dmesg for more information.
12:13 nore do you know what it means?
12:13 nore (and an unusable screen)
12:14 Jordach borked video drivere
12:14 Jordach -e
12:15 nore I closed the screenshot in hte browser, and it seems fine now
12:15 nore not enough video memory?
12:15 Jordach could be
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12:19 VanessaE oh fat lotta good that did.
12:19 Jordach 1/10, would mute again
12:19 VanessaE [09-28 08:23] <VanessaE> whatever the case, I'll give you exactly one chance okay?
12:19 VanessaE [09-28 08:23] <VanessaE> don't fuck up.
12:19 VanessaE [09-28 08:23] <GNADev|zRokh> ok
12:20 VanessaE -->him in private.
12:20 nore Jordach, is there any mg server around?
12:20 VanessaE gah, every time someone says 'mg' I think of dan's minegelf/currency mod and not the experimental mapgen mod :)
12:21 VanessaE er minegeld
12:21 nore VanessaE, what do you think of mg? what could be added?
12:22 VanessaE I liked what I saw last time; I can't think of what to change right now though
12:22 VanessaE I haven't seen the latest effects
12:25 nore basically, only changes in villages
12:25 nore bugfixes, better buildings, etc
12:25 Jordach sfan5, start a MG server
12:25 Jordach NOW.
12:26 Jordach we want to play it!!
12:26 sfan5 Jordach: I'm doing it !!1!!1one
12:26 nore Jordach, we need other biuldings
12:26 nore you could help us a bit for that
12:26 Jordach let's do survival and expand a village without CREATIVE.
12:27 Jordach because it just feels really cheap
12:27 nore no, let's do a creative and create new buildings for villages
12:27 nore and I've an idea: NPC villagers
12:27 Jordach nore, SIMPLE MOBS
12:27 nore do you think it could be done?
12:27 Jordach i've actually made them before using Simple Mobs
12:28 nore I actually mean real NPCs, that you could trade with, that would chop down tree, really grow wheat in farms, etc
12:29 nore sfan5, don't forget to pull the latest mg for the server
12:29 sfan5 nore: biomes or master?
12:29 Jordach i just pulled
12:29 * Jordach thinks master
12:29 Jordach i'll continually pull master for testing
12:29 * sfan5 is now testing the biomes branch
12:30 Evergreen <offtopic>I actually recorded a 32 minute long video with simplescreenrecorder, and it was only 926mb large
12:30 Jordach JESUS WTF
12:30 Jordach there was a reason why i went to youtube
12:30 Jordach and i ended up watching KSP
12:30 nore sfan5: master
12:31 sfan5 nore: ok
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12:37 VanessaE Jordach: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=112384#p112384
12:37 VanessaE explain?
12:37 Jordach VanessaE, remember 0.3 with glass
12:37 VanessaE barely
12:37 Jordach how it had double faces
12:37 Jordach instead of the whole thing being clear?
12:38 Jordach that's whats happening; fancy_leaves even when off doubles the faces
12:38 VanessaE but moretrees leaves are allfaces_options
12:38 VanessaE er allfaces_optional
12:38 VanessaE same as default leaves
12:38 VanessaE (so they should react in the exact same way)
12:38 PilzAdam when you disable fancy_leaves then its drawn like a normal node
12:39 VanessaE so why the double faces?  they shouldn't be any different than dirt at that point
12:41 VanessaE or rather, why would it produce double-faces I mean
12:41 VanessaE (as in, it shouldn't)
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12:45 sfan5 Evergreen: try joining again
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12:56 prestotron55 [deleted]
12:58 VanessaE hi
12:58 prestotron55 [deleted]
12:58 VanessaE nuthin'
12:59 prestotron55 [deleted]
13:04 Evergreen sup prestotron
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13:37 dafull97 Hey guys
13:37 * dafull97 Enters the room
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13:41 VanessaE hi
13:42 dafull97 Hey VanessaE
13:42 dafull97 will be here for about 30 mins - 1 hr
13:43 dafull97 gotta drive mom to store
13:43 dafull97 VanessaE, how old are you? im 16... haha - if you dont wanna say can you give me a range?
13:44 dafull97 just curious
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13:45 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Add curl, freetype and luaJIT to CMAKE_BUILD_INFO 4ea0e4f606 2013-09-28T06:41:37-07:00 http://git.io/BAK4Qg
13:50 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F​o09wEWFsVk&amp;feature=youtu.be
13:50 VanessaE dafull97: I'm 39.
13:51 Ristovski Is there a setting for mouse sensitivity?
13:52 harrison as a mouse i resent that question. i am not too sensitive! (sniff!)
13:52 Evergreen MY mouse actually has a button in the center that toggles between high sensitivity and low sensitivity
13:53 Evergreen *My
13:54 * Ristovski gives harrison some cheese
13:56 harrison that is a stereotype and deeply offensive! (nibble)
13:56 * sfan5 is back
13:56 * PilzAdam gives harrison some bacon
13:57 thexyz s/bacon/beer/
13:57 harrison that is a stereotype and deeply offensive! (nibble gulp)
13:58 dafull97 VanessaE, how long have you Coded/Programmed?
13:58 Ristovski Ok, who here uses Linux?
13:58 harrison i for one
13:58 * PilzAdam too
13:58 Ristovski What distros?
13:58 ruskie too
13:58 sfan5 too
13:58 Ristovski Im on Arch atm
13:59 PilzAdam Kubuntu
13:59 Ristovski ok, everyone uses Linux, lets ask something else
13:59 harrison i am a 1337 h4xx0r
13:59 Ristovski who here uses windows
13:59 Ristovski harrison: yeah, totally 1337 h4x0r
13:59 harrison siduction which is debian unstable++
13:59 * ruskie listens to the crickets
13:59 Ristovski harrison: Look! i can ddos google: ping -f google.com
13:59 VanessaE dafull97: about 25 years or so
13:59 harrison i am old and bitter
13:59 kahrl Ristovski: it's only a ddos if you own a botnet
14:00 kahrl :P
14:00 Ristovski kahrl: No! i leet haxor!
14:00 thexyz you need to do that from two machines
14:00 thexyz your pc and a phone, for example
14:00 thexyz then it's ddos
14:00 Ristovski or my pc and a toaster
14:00 kahrl or a dual core
14:00 Ristovski :P
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14:01 ruskie http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/​05/08/11/1754253/the-netbsd-toaster <-- toaster is valid
14:01 Ristovski http://www.bbspot.com/news/20​08/12/linux-on-a-potato.html
14:01 Ristovski even better
14:02 kahrl oh wow
14:02 kahrl how'd they root it?
14:02 Ristovski VanessaE: What langs you code in?
14:02 Ristovski kahrl: you fry it
14:02 Ristovski kahrl: then the potato is r00ted
14:02 Ristovski and delicious! *nomnomn-
14:03 VanessaE Ristovski: over the years, BASIC, 6502 assembly, C, bash scripting, a tiny smattering of Python, Verilog, Lua, and a very tiny bit of C++
14:03 Ristovski VanessaE: Not bad, which ones do you know the best?
14:04 * Ristovski guesses assembly and C
14:04 VanessaE Ristovski: BASIC, assembly, and Lua.
14:04 VanessaE though I haven't touched the former two in ages
14:04 Ristovski Ok, nice
14:05 VanessaE these days it's all bash and Lua.
14:05 Ristovski VanessaE: yeah, more and more stuff is in lua
14:06 Ristovski VanessaE: By bash scripting i guess you use Linux? If so, what distro if I may ask
14:06 Evergreen I know you were asking Vanessa, but I use Ubuntu + xfce
14:07 Ristovski Evergreen: Your argument is invalid, Ubuntu is not a real distro
14:07 thexyz why?
14:07 Ristovski *doesnt want to start os/distro wars*
14:07 thexyz you already did
14:07 Ristovski Uh-oh
14:08 thexyz i-it's not like i want to start distro war but your distro is not a real distro
14:08 thexyz at least explain
14:08 * Ristovski remains in silence
14:08 VanessaE I use Linux, yes (Debian sid w/xfce)
14:08 Ristovski I have debian sid as my secondary os
14:09 Ristovski And then my taped together GFX driver stopped working
14:12 Ristovski kahrl: Help! My friend just texted me that he reinstalled windows after his chrome stopped working, and now hes asking if he can RECOVER his games from the formatted drive
14:12 Ristovski brb Ill kill him
14:12 VanessaE oh jeez
14:13 Ristovski VanessaE: exactly, and he wanted me to install linux for him
14:13 Ristovski inb4 Ristovski spent 2 days in tty fixing broken gfx drivers
14:13 VanessaE tell him to go buy a tablet
14:13 dafull97 VanessaE said: dafull97: about 25 years or so ; Wow that is amazing!
14:13 Ristovski VanessaE: Tablet with Windows 8.1!
14:13 VanessaE dafull97: it's not been the most productive of programming histories
14:14 VanessaE Ristovski: oh G*d
14:14 dafull97 what is that meaning?
14:14 VanessaE dafull97: I mean 25 years is a lot of time but I haven't produced all that much during that time
14:14 dafull97 VanessaE, ohh.... i have for 3 1/2 years going on 4
14:14 VanessaE I've probably written more code in the last year than in the other 24 :)
14:15 dafull97 LOL, i made some programs in python, batch, and only a few webpagse
14:16 dafull97 im wanting to start a programming language like C/C++
14:16 Ristovski VanessaE: Do you have a github? i would like to see your code
14:16 Ristovski dafull97: first start C, then C++
14:16 VanessaE I didn't count HTML in the list of languages since it's just a markup language, nor Javascript since I suck worse at it than at C++ :P
14:17 VanessaE Ristovski: yes, https://github.com/VanessaE
14:17 kahrl start a language? as in start designing it?
14:17 Ristovski okaaay.. could have guessed that :P
14:17 VanessaE all of what is there is Minetest-related
14:17 prestotron55 [deleted]
14:17 Ristovski kahrl: yup! Lets mix brainfuck and VB
14:17 kahrl sounds fun!
14:17 dafull97 yea, its a Markup Language
14:17 VanessaE the remainder is at http://digitalaudioconcepts.c​om/vanessa/hobbies/index.html
14:18 VanessaE (most of what is THERE is Commodore 64-related stuff, not Minetest)
14:18 dafull97 Ristovski, Why C First?
14:18 Ristovski VanessaE: Nice Lua
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14:18 Ristovski dafull97: you cant just start C++ first and then come back to C
14:18 Ristovski C++ is C with classes
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14:21 dafull97 yes, i did some research for school on it... had write a 3 page paper
14:21 dafull97 we got to shoose what to write on
14:21 dafull97 it i knew C++ would i need C?
14:22 thexyz you should start with C
14:22 pitriss please can anybody tell me how much hp adds bushes:berry_pie_cooked ?:)
14:22 IceCraft hi
14:22 thexyz you can understand C, you can't understand C++
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14:23 VanessaE pitriss: what, that mod still works?
14:24 pitriss VanessaE: on landrush yes.. but.. maybe thats reason why i cant find it in sources:D
14:24 VanessaE dafull97: but first, start by stocking up on hair restorer and weed :)
14:24 VanessaE pitriss: it is/was part of Nature Pack
14:24 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=729
14:24 diemartin YEY /home/diego/src/minetest/src/client.cpp:1869: void Client::ProcessData(irr::u8*, irr::u32, irr::u16): Assertion '!m_mesh_update_thread.IsRunning()' failed.
14:24 pitriss VanessaE: thank you..
14:25 VanessaE diemartin: that sounds like the error I get when I open the inventory too soon after connecting
14:25 diemartin oops, that was longer than it seemed
14:25 thexyz or not understand but "know"
14:25 * VanessaE looks at the contents of that modpack...
14:26 VanessaE I should import some of the orphaned stuff in that mod into Plantlife modpack
14:26 kahrl Ristovski: I designed it! http://paste.dy.fi/B6c
14:26 diemartin VanessaE, yup, except the game was running in the background this time; no inventory request, no movement, nothing
14:26 dafull97 VanessaE, or anyone conserned... what can you do with C++ that you cannot with C?
14:26 VanessaE (maybe just the berry bushes)
14:27 Ristovski kahrl: lol
14:27 diemartin dafull97, overengineer a program :P
14:27 dafull97 overengineer? LOL
14:28 VanessaE diemartin: "The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain."
14:28 VanessaE one of my favorite movie quotes :)
14:28 diemartin heh
14:29 dafull97 overenginner??
14:29 dafull97 what is that?
14:29 dafull97 LOLOLOL
14:29 diemartin :I
14:29 VanessaE "Laugh Out Loud Out Loud Out Loud...."
14:29 VanessaE :-/
14:30 dafull97 VanessaE, hahaha whatever
14:30 VanessaE hm, looking at nature pack...about all that's left that hasn't been absorbed into some other mod is the bushes mod.
14:31 thexyz colon dash slash
14:31 VanessaE I should just add that to plantlife modpack.
14:33 Ristovski ecksdee
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14:54 OldCoder If John of Minetest shows up tell him I am late for soccer... But may work with Zegaton later this weekend
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15:39 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=112409#p112409
15:39 VanessaE \o/
15:41 sfan5 !title
15:41 MinetestBot sfan5: [Modpack] Plantlife [20130928] [plantlife] (Page 4) — Mod Releases — Minetest Forums
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16:20 Peacock didn't have much of a choice in waking up - felt wet sandpaper in my ear, it was the cat XD
16:20 * prestotron55 is working on an operating system
16:20 Peacock YALD - Yet Another Linux Distro lol
16:21 Peacock then there's BALD - Beer and Linux Distro :P
16:21 us`0gb My cat never wakes me up. She doesn't even hang out in my room very often.
16:22 Peacock most of the time kitty is pretty independent, but when she wants something (attention, cookies, etc.) you don't really have a choice in the matter :P
16:23 VanessaE one of mine likes to stay nearby and is a snuggler, the other can't help but climb onto my belly and start kneading every chance she gets :)
16:23 Peacock my cat kneads too when she's about to settle in, we call it nesting lol
16:23 VanessaE (the former has such a pleading, whiny "meow"..  "Oh G*d I'm soooo pathetic!" :D  )
16:23 us`0gb It's cute when they kneed, but mine doesn't do it on laps.
16:24 Peacock often mine jumps on the chair, squeezes her butt in and i have to scoot over and give her room to sit with me lol
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16:25 VanessaE haha
16:25 us`0gb My cat sort of purs and meows at the same time. It sounds like a rolling voice like how the Spanish roll their "r"s.
16:25 Peacock the funniest is dinner, she bitches until we pull out a chair for her too, and she just sits at the table with us while we eat lol
16:30 us`0gb We don't formally eat at the table. The table is actually under a pile of junk ...
16:30 us`0gb Why is there a news.com.com? For that matter, why is there a com.com?
16:31 VanessaE that's been around since...forever
16:33 Peacock "Looking for a job as Hand of the King? come check us out at handjobs.com" there are tons of bad website names out there :P
16:34 Peacock names/addresses
16:34 us`0gb Bad addresses? Yeah, I know all about bad addresses. I have one myself.
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16:35 Peacock http://mistupid.com/people/page081.htm
16:35 Peacock Who Represents - whorepresents.com lol
16:36 Peacock Experts Exchange - expertsexchange.com - lol
16:36 Peacock or Pen Island - penisland.net
16:37 us`0gb If you're going to get a sex change, you want it to be carried out by experts. Otherwise, it can get dangerous.
16:37 Peacock apparently Zurich is the place to go for that lol
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16:45 Peacock what a terrifying prospect: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2013/09/28​/jonathan-kay-diane-francis-plan-to-merge-cana​da-and-the-united-states-has-many-many-problem​s/?utm_source=dlvr.it&amp;utm_medium=twitter
16:46 sfan5 > ?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
16:46 sfan5 I hate it when people leave this at the end
16:46 VanessaE that would be just insane.
16:46 Peacock well its not like the address bar is long enough to notice it sfan :P
16:46 VanessaE ruin Canada by merging with the US?  insane.
16:46 Peacock vanessa it would never work
16:46 VanessaE I wouldn't expect it to
16:47 VanessaE Canada does too many things the *right* way
16:47 Peacock Canada has gay marriage on the federal level, and no universal gun rights, the US is the opposite
16:47 Peacock then what would happen to the health system here? people would never go for it
16:48 Calinou sfan5: why? :P
16:48 Calinou VanessaE: no, france does everything right of course!
16:48 * Calinou gallops away
16:48 Ristovski hello Calinou
16:48 Peacock putting that French army training to use i see :P
16:48 sfan5 Calinou: why not
16:49 Calinou hi Ristovski
16:49 Peacock the other day my gov't anounce Stealth Snowmobiles lol next up, stealth canoes XD
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17:02 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan well, this computers' HD is officially full to the brim lol
17:03 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan going by the rule of 2, if 1.5tb ain't enough, i need to add 3tb lol
17:08 Evergreen What on earth do you have on that hard drive?    I survived on an 80gb drive
17:08 Evergreen With only 50 left after the OS
17:08 us`0gb I used to survive on 20 GiB.
17:08 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan i dont sleep much, so i read alot and watch alot of shows lol
17:09 markveidemanis For me 5 is enough
17:09 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan heck in 95 i had a netbook-sized laptop with a 400mb hd, which was fine until napster came along lol
17:09 * prestotron55 is working on a new OS, not a Linux Distro
17:09 Calinou why?
17:09 * Evergreen is doubtful
17:09 prestotron55 [deleted]
17:09 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan dont ask lol
17:09 prestotron55 [deleted]
17:10 * us`0gb 's new OS *is* a GNU/Linux distro
17:10 prestotron55 [deleted]
17:10 Calinou Evergreen: I have 256GB SSD and no HDD in my desktop
17:10 Calinou no HDD noise :d
17:11 us`0gb Oh, you mean you're *making* an operating system? My bad. I just install them.
17:11 Evergreen Thank G*d for my 1tb external drive though.   :P
17:11 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan ideally id like the next drive to be external and hopefully on wifi
17:12 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan id love to stick the p4 in the spare room but still have access to all the same shows/movies/music from all PCs/laptop
17:14 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan even vlc's own builtin streaming isn't that great
17:14 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan XBMC's default player makes HD videos pretty pointless
17:15 zat1 So PilzAdam, you think it is a bug that privileges wont persist between logins?
17:16 PilzAdam there is no bug in Minetest, since it works for everyone else
17:16 PilzAdam I guess there are some file access issues or so
17:17 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan *no such bug :P there are others
17:17 PilzAdam nope, that are all features :-p
17:18 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan lol i saw an image the other day
17:18 PilzAdam me too!
17:19 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan cant find it now :/ but it had two bugs, the second was dressed in a suit and had open source written under it lol
17:19 us`0gb Was it transperentpixel.png?
17:21 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan this is either a variant or the original http://files.myopera.com/fre​ejerk/files/bug-feature.jpg
17:21 Evergreen plol, so true
17:21 us`0gb THat looks about right sometimes.
17:22 us`0gb Like the bug that makes the screen jerk when you get damaged in lava.
17:23 us`0gb Or the FIrefox bug that displays URI-encoded characters decoded in the address bar.
17:23 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan sweet, done extracting, brb in #!
17:24 us`0gb # <unit of time measurement>
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17:25 dafull97 Hey guys im back
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17:26 Peacock why does freenode always say "invalid password" before ive actually authenticated?
17:26 us`0gb It expects that you're *going* to send an invalid password, so it lets you know.
17:27 Peacock i always get failed login attempt warnings too
17:27 Peacock though xchat doesn't seem to have any settings for autologin
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17:28 us`0gb Peacock, I use XChat's auto-login feature. By that logic, I reason that XChat must have an autologin feature.
17:28 Peacock where is it? the menus are kinda random
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17:29 Peacock i see proxy authentication, but no login tab anywhere in the settings
17:29 us`0gb "XChat > Network List ...", choose the network, and click "Edit...".
17:29 us`0gb Each network can use a different password, so it can't be in the general settings menu/
17:30 Peacock oh wow, there was already something there, even though i never set one on #1
17:30 Peacock *#!
17:30 us`0gb I figured, ha ha.
17:31 dafull97 hey 0gb
17:31 Peacock well that explains the warnings i kept getting lol
17:32 us`0gb Hello, dafull97!
17:32 Calinou hi dafull97 :)
17:33 dafull97 Hello Calinou, us `0gb
17:35 Peacock jesus there are more textures here than i know what to do with lol
17:35 zat1 PilzAdam: how would you check there no file access issues? Also taking into account that creation, and modification of that file works for everything else.
17:37 dafull97 us '0gb, do you know how to revert changes on ubuntu? hahaa
17:37 us`0gb What kind of changes?
17:38 Peacock "Quebec sends thousands of duplicate welfare cheques" it's gonna be a good week for drug dealers and liquor stores lol
17:38 us`0gb zat, the easiest way would be to recursively set the permissions yourself with chmod or something.
17:39 zat they are fine us`0gb
17:39 us`0gb I thought you were considering the possibility of issues. My bad.
17:40 zat as I mentioned, if the game can correctly add users to the file (auth.txt) when they login for first time.
17:40 zat and the game recognizes previously registered users... so access to that file *must* be working.
17:40 us`0gb Okay, that's just odd then.
17:41 zat the thing is... the game won’t take any news privileges I add to that file, for one user, with the server off.
17:41 Peacock Oh wow, they arrested the leader of the greek pro-nazi Golden Shower party
17:41 zat also, ingame granted privileges won’t persist between logins.
17:42 zat although I do not know whether ingame granted privileges should or not persist...
17:43 us`0gb They should.
17:43 zat this is very strange then
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17:43 zat and it happens in both my laptop and a server I set up yesterday on centos.
17:43 zat both issues
17:44 Dan_D I have a problem with GIMP- when I try to use save-as, there is no box to type in the desired name.
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17:44 Peacock thats a feature
17:44 Dan_D It was there a couple of minutes ago
17:45 Peacock the designers decided that choosing a name taxes the masses too much
17:45 us`0gb Back to bugs and features - it's intentional, but it's a bug.
17:45 zat Peacock: GIMP for the masses? eh...
17:45 Peacock GIMP is more for the masses than blender is :P
17:45 Peacock though i hate that save/export change they made
17:45 zat agree
17:46 Peacock save should save an image file, and Save Project should be what save currently does
17:46 Dan_D But how to get the box back? It just disappeared.
17:46 Peacock file a bug report, in 12 to 18 months there should be a fix
17:46 Peacock just dont turn off your computer until then XD
17:47 Dan_D It just re-appeared... and at the same time a bird flew into my window... odd.
17:47 us`0gb Or save, downgrade, then open and save as.
17:47 us`0gb Okay, odd.
17:48 us`0gb I don't know what version of GIMP I'm using (I just use the preinstalled one) but it keeps the image name field. It's a little outdated I guess, but it's an image editor, it doesn't need to be bleeding edge.
17:48 zat Actually, save/export differentiation makes more sense... I want to save my work in a way it will be further workable, hence the word save. Export to output its current state in a normally plain/raster graphic.
17:49 Peacock i prefer slightly outdated has the bugs are usually more or less taken care of by that time
17:49 Peacock *as
17:51 Peacock these days i dont even update VLC unless im sure i have the .deb for the last version lol
17:52 us`0gb Save as .xcf then.
17:53 dafull97 how to find your own mac address  in Xubuntu?
17:53 dafull97 VanessaE, us `0gb ^^
17:54 Peacock network manager
17:54 dafull97 thx
17:55 Peacock if it's somehow hidden (havent used network-manager in a awhile) then macchanger is another app that'll give it to you easily
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17:55 us`0gb dafull97, If you try to alert me, it doesn't work if you put a space in my name. My client won't recognize it as me.
17:55 VanessaE or just open a terminal, ifconfig -a, find your interface in the list, and the MAC access will be there ("hwaddr")
17:56 dafull97 oh i thought there was a space? sorry haha
17:56 us`0gb No worries. IRC names can't have spaces though.
17:56 dafull97 ohh, ok hahaha
17:56 dafull97 brb have check mail
17:57 us`0gb Valid characters are alphanemerics and `^_-{}[]\|
17:57 us`0gb I might have missed a couple.
17:59 Peacock *alphanumerics
17:59 Peacock alpha=alphabet, numeric = numerals :P
18:00 Peacock (etymology is fun) :P
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18:05 Niften Hi
18:08 us`0gb Hello!
18:08 us`0gb Peacock, http://xkcd.com/1010/
18:09 nore has anyone a problem with the wiki? http://wiki.minetest.net
18:09 nore it looks like css are missing or something like that for me for most of the pages
18:10 us`0gb The CSS is intact on my end.
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18:10 zat nore: http://i.imgur.com/WHDN6.png
18:11 nore perhaps it is not the css, but it is not like a normal wiki
18:11 zat nore: define normal wiki... looking like wikipedia?
18:11 us`0gb nore, screenshot.
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18:13 nore http://nore.mesecons.net/bug.png
18:13 nore I don't get that with special pages such as recent changes
18:14 prestotron55 [deleted]
18:14 zat Looks like old Firefox or CSS fail
18:14 us`0gb nore, it does seem a chunk of the CSS is missing for you.
18:15 prestotron55 [deleted]
18:15 nore why does recent_changes work then, while it is like that for most of the pages?
18:15 prestotron55 [deleted]
18:15 us`0gb prestotron55, no, I *use* a few distros, not hove one. It was a miscommunication.
18:15 us`0gb *have
18:15 prestotron55 [deleted]
18:16 us`0gb I'm on Trisquel at the moment.
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18:17 sfan5 <prestotron55> Wikipedia is in fact MediaWiki so a "normal wiki" is MediaWiki, not Wikipedia. (Epic truth)
18:17 sfan5 epic truth? what?
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18:18 us`0gb sfan5, happens to me all the time.
18:18 nore sfan5: do you know what the bug is? http://nore.mesecons.net/bug.png
18:19 sfan5 no
18:19 nore it happens for almost all pages on wiki.minetest.net
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18:21 zat what is your Firefox version nore?
18:21 dafull97_ VanessaE, and us`0gb my cuzins client wont connect to any server?
18:21 nore iceweasel in debian jessie
18:21 zat what version?
18:21 us`0gb THat's odd. WHat server?
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18:22 zat nore: tell me the numeric version of the browser
18:22 zat better would be the version of gecko
18:22 us`0gb Oh, sorry, misread.
18:22 nore Mozilla Iceweasel 17.0.8
18:22 dafull97_ any server, my server... VanessaE's yours...
18:23 us`0gb dafull97_, what Minetest version?
18:23 us`0gb Get 0.4.7 for most servers or the unstable version for VanessaE's server.
18:23 zat nore: sounds old, does it happen with a different browser?
18:24 dafull97_ from .zip on the website /minetest-0.4.7/
18:24 us`0gb Hmm. Are there any error messages?
18:24 us`0gb Can your friend access web pages and such?
18:26 nore no bug with konqueror...
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18:26 dafull97_ runing it again, i get errors in the prompt
18:26 us`0gb Nore with Abrowser, which is basically Firefox.
18:27 us`0gb *Nor, not Nor, my bad.
18:27 us`0gb *Nor, not Nore
18:27 us`0gb WHat errors though?
18:31 STHGOM I'm looking for someone on minetest, has anyone seen dinisfp or someone with a name like it recently?
18:32 zat me no
18:35 dafull97_ us`0gb, here it is
18:36 dafull97_ 14:33:44: ERROR[main]: Access denied. Reason: Your client's version is not suppo rted. 14:33:44: ERROR[main]: Server version is 0.4.7, 14:33:44: ERROR[main]: server's PROTOCOL_VERSION (strict) is 21, client's PROTOC OL_VERSION is 13...20 Could not open file of texture:
18:36 us`0gb That means the server is running the unstable version. Try a different server.
18:37 us`0gb Or as Vanessa recommends, compile the unstable client.
18:37 dafull97_ that was my server
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18:38 dafull97_ i accidently deleted the server last night
18:38 hanny hello
18:38 dafull97_ by, sudeo apt-get remove minetestc55
18:38 us`0gb Hello!
18:38 dafull97_ anyway, i added the ppa to my server
18:38 us`0gb dafull97, are you using the PPA?
18:38 dafull97_ and installed again
18:38 dafull97_ yes
18:38 us`0gb Okay, which? Can you post it?
18:39 us`0gb You might be using the unstable PPA.
18:39 dafull97_ yea, hold on
18:39 us`0gb If you use the unstable PPA, a lot of people won't be able to connect to your server, myself included.
18:39 dafull97_ =0.4.7 is the version
18:40 us`0gb The stable and unstable version both say 0.4.7, unfortunately. Post the PPA address, not the Minetest version.
18:41 dafull97_ ok one sec, i didnt know if that would hlp, sorry =D
18:41 us`0gb Or actually ... try to create a new world. Does it let you choose a map generator?
18:41 us`0gb (For example, v6 is a map generator.)
18:41 dafull97_ https://launchpad.net/~minete​stdevs/+archive/daily-builds
18:41 dafull97_ there it is
18:41 us`0gb Okay, that's the unstable version.
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18:42 dafull97_ crap!
18:42 STHGOM accually minetest can resolve any server
18:42 us`0gb Basically, most people won't be able to connect.
18:42 dafull97_ ok so uninstall and reinstall
18:42 dafull97_ haha
18:42 dafull97_ using the stable build?
18:42 us`0gb You'd have to uninstall the PPA too, and I don't know how to do that.
18:43 dafull97_ etc/apt/sources.list
18:43 dafull97_ haha
18:43 dafull97_ nano it
18:46 us`0gb Okay, change "daily-builds" to "stable" then.
18:46 us`0gb Then uninstall, apt-get update, and reinstall.
18:46 dafull97_ yea
18:49 us`0gb Doing that will make youunable to reach Vanessa's server though, just to be clear. She likes to be bleeding edge. Not that I blame her. I stick with the stable version for compatibility, but I like the bleeding edge client.
18:51 dafull97_ so, wait? haha
18:52 us`0gb I'd switch to the stable version now if you are running a server. I just want you to know what doing so means, so you don't run into problems later.
18:57 dafull97_ ok, now it loads ok.. loads half through the media, dont load anymore
18:57 us`0gb It could be a time out. Try relogging it.
18:57 us`0gb *in
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19:01 dafull97_ never mind, i cleared cahce so took a sec
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19:04 us`0gb Okay, good.
19:04 codehero how do you change the maximum viewing range?
19:04 codehero + and - just change the minimum
19:06 Calinou codehero: viewing_range_nodes_max = N
19:06 Calinou N is value (in nodes)
19:07 codehero okay thank you ^^
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19:13 Peacock you know you're in for a long copy-paste when the dialogue stays on "Collecting Files" for two minutes XD
19:16 dafull97 thx, us`0gb
19:18 us`0gb Yeah, no problem.
19:21 dafull97 us`0gb, are you Experianced in Xubuntu/Graphics?
19:22 us`0gb I used to use Xubuntu, I can probably help. What do you mean by graphics though? Graphic editing?
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19:22 Peacock finally got around to purging PA lol
19:22 us`0gb "PA"?
19:22 PilzAdam D:
19:22 Peacock removing PulseAudio, not sending PilzAdam to a gulag :P
19:23 Peacock or a political re-reducation camp (if that's what theyre called now) :P
19:23 us`0gb WHat do you use instead of PulseAudio now?
19:23 Peacock pure alsa baby
19:24 Peacock i was testing sfx i had downloaded and it was soo "grinchy" i finally said fuck it lol
19:24 Peacock a 7 year old tower and a 1 year old tower and pulse sucks on both lol
19:24 dafull97 us`0gb, no i mean like graphics in game, at night only i have black lines acroos screen
19:25 us`0gb Hmm. I wouldn't know how to fix that, sorry. Only at night though? You could try turning up your monitor brightness and see if that helps.
19:26 us`0gb Or turn it down, but that'll make it hard to see in caves.
19:26 Peacock brightness/contrast issue probably
19:30 dafull97 it has lines leading to like corner of blocks, not like alot of them like 4-5 everywhere i turn?
19:30 Peacock got a screen?
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19:33 kahrl woohoo bot spam
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20:01 dafull97 anybody has the jail mod?
20:02 VanessaE no, no one has that.  no one would EVER have THAT.
20:02 VanessaE :P
20:03 dafull97 i have it :P
20:03 Peacock people usually go straight for a ban
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20:03 ShadowNinja I have one that I wrote myself.
20:03 Peacock though a debtors' jail in combination with the economy mods would probably make sense
20:04 dafull97 i have jail, 2 jails then ban
20:04 ShadowNinja Yes, I usually ban.
20:05 Peacock didnt see much of a point in a jail myself since trying to grief your way out resulted in a ban anyway lol
20:05 us`0gb I'm still trying to find a way to not need to ban ... I guess I'm too idealistic.
20:05 Peacock for the kind of players MT and MC gets, yes
20:07 dafull97 i like jails, but 2 jails temp ban then 1 jail and perm ban
20:07 Peacock depending on the kind of culture of the people joining your server, either they intentionally want to grief, or grow frustrated at their lousy building skills and want to destroy shit, either way, ban is handy :P
20:07 dafull97 also depends on what they do haha
20:08 Peacock as well as frequent backups
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20:08 Niften hello
20:09 jojoa1997 hi
20:09 Niften Does anyone know if there's an actual implemented engine system for LUA?
20:09 Niften Er
20:09 us`0gb Hello!
20:09 Niften *biome system
20:09 Niften Hey 0gb
20:09 Peacock no yet
20:10 us`0gb I'm told it's not in the works either.
20:10 Niften That's disappointing :c
20:10 Peacock not? ive been hearing about it for so long i thought it was
20:10 Niften Maybe the community (us) should make a biome framework?
20:10 Niften Well
20:10 Niften There are SOME biome stuffs in the engine
20:10 Niften I've seen it
20:10 Niften :p
20:10 us`0gb The community want it, but don't understand how hard it is for the developers to implement that.
20:10 Niften minetest.register_biome("etc")
20:10 Peacock mandelboxes might be cool but we need a more customizable mapgen, and the ability of multiple instances of it :P
20:11 Niften true
20:11 Niften maybe we should make a mod for that?
20:11 us`0gb THere's a minetest.register_biome() now?
20:11 Peacock ogb: simple, no one dev has taken a personal interest in doing it, its that simple :P
20:11 Niften i think so 0bg
20:11 Niften I've seen it in a few mods
20:11 Peacock -simple
20:12 Peacock though if youre really interested
20:12 Peacock take a look at paragen, and how you might throw in a register_biome there
20:12 Niften MT needs way more biomes
20:12 Niften there's like, 3?
20:12 Calinou desert, normal
20:12 Calinou that's 2
20:12 Niften what about the ocean :D
20:12 Calinou ocean is not a biome by definition
20:12 Niften true
20:12 Calinou mods can add biomes
20:12 Niften they can?
20:13 Peacock well an ocean biome would basically be large bodies of water with a few small islands
20:13 Calinou yeah
20:13 us`0gb Forest, plains, ocean (if you count it), desert, beach ...
20:13 Peacock but,
20:13 Calinou see Splizard's "snow" mod
20:13 Calinou they can be slow
20:13 Niften I saw that
20:13 Niften but
20:13 Calinou us`0gb: forest and plains are indirect biomes
20:13 Calinou they are not considered as biomes in the code :P
20:13 Peacock plains, valleys, rainforest, deciduous forest, desert, savannah, etc.
20:13 us`0gb Jungles if you have them enabled.
20:13 Niften that basically places snow nodes
20:13 Calinou I read "delicious forest"
20:13 Peacock snow could be split into arctic and tundra
20:13 Peacock i love delicious forests
20:13 Niften ikr calinou xD
20:14 us`0gb Forests are delicious. We all know it.
20:14 Peacock plateaus
20:14 Peacock mountains (real mountains, not cones/stretched spheres)
20:14 Niften but seriously
20:14 Niften mt needs more biomes
20:14 Niften like, real biomes.
20:14 Peacock to do that, we need to be able to register them for the default mapgen, and not some lua mapgen :P
20:15 Niften wait
20:15 Peacock even with lvm, paragen is too slow to run on my server
20:15 Niften before we do anything
20:15 Niften is c++ mapgen compatible with lua codes?
20:15 Peacock default mod /mapgen.lua, take a look
20:15 Niften ik
20:15 Niften im wondering how they defined the desert
20:16 Niften i dont think the desert is in /mapgen.lua
20:16 Niften more of an engine implement, right?
20:16 Peacock from mapgen.lua you can control some basic things like concentration, size, height
20:16 us`0gb I don't know. "grep mapgen_desert_stone *"
20:16 Niften not what nodes appear in a biome
20:16 Niften 0bg
20:16 Niften what line?
20:17 us`0gb What line is what?
20:17 Niften in mapgen.lua, what line is "grep mapgen_desert_stone *"
20:17 us`0gb That's not a line, it's a command for finding the lines.
20:17 Niften oh
20:17 Niften my bad
20:17 Niften got confused xD
20:17 us`0gb No worries.
20:18 Niften imo mt looks pretty blank..
20:18 Niften i made a mod that makes grass spawn more frequently
20:18 Niften that should be added to the default mt
20:18 Niften idk
20:18 us`0gb Most of it is handled in Lua. If you think it looks blank, check out my game when it comes out. It will be packed.
20:19 Niften I mean the grass nodes (not grassblocks) they don't spawn that frequently. I made a mod that has it so that they spawn more frequently which certainly livens things up..
20:19 Niften just regular grass nodes
20:20 us`0gb Yeah, I understand. That's something I should add, tall grass.
20:20 Niften already did :D
20:20 us`0gb Though not yet, I'm working on lava right now.
20:20 Niften only like, 4 nodes.
20:20 Niften 0bg
20:21 us`0gb I mean add it to my game. My game doesn't have the default stuff.
20:21 Niften Oh.
20:21 Niften Wait.
20:21 Niften You're starting from scratch..?
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20:21 us`0gb I'm rebuilding the game by hand. From scratch. I'm taking minetest_game's sounds, but all else will be new.
20:21 Niften impressive
20:22 Niften can I help? :D
20:22 us`0gb It'll take time though. I also have homework and paid work.
20:22 us`0gb Help how?
20:22 Niften I could do textures
20:22 Niften and some code
20:22 Niften c:
20:23 us`0gb You have no idea how awesome that would be. I suck at textures, and my current nodes do not look good.
20:23 Niften I have a team of artists :D
20:23 Niften I can also do pretty good textures
20:23 Niften and, I'm also making a game.
20:23 Niften With engine modifications.
20:23 Niften Built off mt
20:24 us`0gb And to top it off, there will be a lot of nodes. The official goal is 2000+ nodes, but the real goal is 4093 nodes. SO lots to do.
20:24 us`0gb *So
20:24 Niften dang
20:24 us`0gb Yeah. It'll take a while.
20:24 Niften mmhmm
20:25 Niften hmm.
20:25 Niften ill look into biome implementation
20:25 Niften (better biomes)
20:26 us`0gb Awesome. I'll do some experimenting with trees when I have time. Some biomes might have unique trees and shrubs.
20:26 Niften wait.
20:26 Niften 0bg
20:26 Niften here's a line I made to make grass spawn more frequently
20:26 Niften local grass_amount = math.floor(perlin1:get2d({x=x0, y=z0}) ^ 1 * 144)
20:26 Niften try that
20:26 Niften its ugly but works
20:27 Niften put the game on github we'll work on it there
20:28 us`0gb The game isn't even far enough allong to put on Github yet. As soon as I get the C++ hooks implemented.
20:28 us`0gb I've added that line to my notes.
20:28 Niften mm
20:28 Niften alright.
20:28 Niften oh
20:28 Niften idea
20:29 Peacock this one's englaisse is top notch: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7324
20:29 Niften do you know how to use blender?
20:29 Niften does anyone?
20:29 us`0gb "All Mods The Minecraft. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D"
20:29 Niften xD
20:29 Peacock lets go frieds - play with my iten drods
20:29 us`0gb I've never tried Blender.
20:30 Niften because minetest is boring without mobs :c
20:30 Niften i saw sapier's
20:30 Niften so im using that temporarily
20:30 Niften but i was looking into rebuilding an animals mod
20:30 Peacock alternatively, minetest is nearly unplayable with mobs
20:30 Niften better one with better AI
20:30 Niften peacock it is but it would be extremely boring
20:31 Peacock meh, mt is first and foremost a building game, having things to kill is secondary
20:31 us`0gb Ah, mobs. THose are outside the scope of what I'm doing myself, but that would be cool to add to the game.
20:31 Niften peacock
20:31 us`0gb But nothing too destructive.
20:31 Niften i know
20:31 Niften like, i was thinking pigs and cows.
20:31 Niften you know what im saying right?
20:31 Niften like, apples being the only food source is kind of stupid..
20:32 Peacock why add cows to the game when there are plenty on the chat?
20:32 us`0gb Yeah ... I'm not sure how livestock would enhance the game though.
20:32 Peacock (kidding :P)
20:32 Niften peacock <3
20:32 Niften 0bg
20:32 Niften it would alot
20:33 Peacock the farming mod could eventually use livestock, but done in a non-laggy way
20:33 us`0gb There's no harm in trying it. Minecraft does livestock wrong and I've never seen a good implementation of livestock in Minetest either. But that doesn't mean a good implementation of it is impossible.
20:33 us`0gb But it would take work.
20:33 Peacock i dont know why mobs are so slow
20:33 Peacock its either the movement or the AI involved
20:34 us`0gb I'm not even talking about the slowness.
20:34 Peacock if you can call it an AI
20:34 us`0gb Oh, it's artificial alright. I can tell.
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20:34 Niften_ sorry guys i crashed
20:34 Niften_ did i miss anything?
20:35 us`0gb Hold on. I'mm PM you to avoid spamming the channel.
20:35 Niften_ alright
20:36 Niften_ thats why we need to make a good implementation of livestock
20:36 us`0gb Because no one else has it?
20:36 us`0gb That sounds like a plan.
20:36 Niften_ no, because there's no good implementation.
20:36 Niften_ xD
20:37 Niften_ alright.
20:37 Niften_ lets do this :D
20:37 Niften_ ugh
20:37 Niften_ forgot
20:37 Niften_ we need a blender animator
20:37 Niften_ and, 0bg, when this finishes we can put the animals to our forks
20:37 us`0gb Our forks of what?
20:38 Niften_ your game
20:38 Niften_ and my game
20:39 us`0gb Okay. What do you want to call it? For example, the default two are "minetest" and "minimal".
20:40 * kahrl puts the pork to his fork
20:40 kahrl sorry vegetarians if that offends you :P
20:40 Niften_ 0bg
20:41 Niften_ our fork?
20:41 us`0gb Our game.
20:42 Niften_ ah
20:42 Niften_ Hmm.
20:42 Niften_ I'm going to bring this into the PM to avoid spamming chat
20:43 us`0gb Oops ... I accidentally stole someone's Jack in the Box receipt ...
20:43 Niften_ uh oh
20:43 Niften_ *stole*
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20:44 Peacock have a Jack In The Maze instead
20:44 Peacock http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5​246/5344907315_da264088d6_o.jpg
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20:47 Peacock nore was that user account created on the forum or on git?
20:47 nore on the wiki
20:47 nore http://wiki.minetest.net/Special:RecentChanges
20:48 Peacock well at least theyre just looking at the concepts and not copy pasting the entirety of the code from GH
20:48 Evergreen WEll, what good would lua code and c code be to them?   :P
20:49 Peacock but when you reverse engineer everything about MC and even copy the look and rules of MC, you have to expect they'll borrow-back some ideas too
20:49 Evergreen Also a question, do the minecraft developers know about the existence of minetest?
20:49 Peacock probably yeah
20:50 Peacock some of our dumber users shamelessly advertised MT on their forums lol
20:50 Peacock which honestly is a dick thing to do when theyre trying to sell a game and you're there giving away free samples lol
20:51 Peacock not sure the reverse would be tolerated though
20:53 Niften_ back
20:54 Niften_ hello
20:54 Evergreen I wish people wouldn't spam minecraft with minetest crap, that's probably the worst place to advertise
20:54 Peacock evergreen it would explain the high number of pure griefers we get lol
20:54 us`0gb Yeah ... especially because of the type of people it brings here.
20:55 Evergreen So true
20:55 Niften_ ikr evergreen, gives mt a bad reputation also.
20:55 Peacock for a while someone was hitting their chat every day with MT stuff, and one of their admins would have to come here and beg us to do something about it lol
20:55 us`0gb People here want the game to become MORE Minecraft-like, and part of it is that Minecrafters are being recruited.
20:55 Peacock broke minecrafters yeah
20:56 Peacock who if they had the choice, would rather play MC, but the next best thing is to turn this into MC
20:56 dafull97 us`0gb come my server? =D
20:56 Peacock and people have the audacity to complain when MC copies a couple of our concepts lol
20:56 Evergreen I think minecraft has one of the dumbest user bases ever (aside from admins and such)
20:56 Peacock well neither game seperates the kids from the adults
20:57 us`0gb I don't have a whole lot of time before I need to go into work, and I do have a lot that needs to be done first. Sorry, but maybe when I get back at about 9 PM PST.
20:57 Evergreen I have seen plenty of smart younger people on the forums
20:57 Peacock kids have a tendency of breaking the rules and bullshitting their way out of punishment, and they're surprised to find out it only works with their own parents
20:57 us`0gb Some of the younger people are writing scripts too, which is so cool.
20:57 Evergreen Thankfully, there aren't too many of them around here.
20:58 us`0gb Sure, Lua is easy, but still. They put in the time to try it out.
20:58 Peacock not all kids are the same obviously :P but there are more immature kids than there are mature ones
20:58 Evergreen Usually, the ones like that don't survive long around here anyway
20:58 Evergreen I think minetest has a pretty darn good user base.
20:58 Niften_ true
20:59 Evergreen Not lrage, but good
20:59 Evergreen *large
20:59 Peacock thats why my server's whitelist has five entries on it :P (sarcasm)
20:59 Niften_ anyone heard of prestotron502
20:59 Peacock dont ping him
20:59 Peacock lol
20:59 Evergreen Yes, he was on an hour or so ago
20:59 Evergreen maybe sooner
20:59 Niften_ he's one of the biggest liars ever.
21:00 Peacock protastereon - im making a game - im on the core dev team - im making an OS, that one?
21:00 Niften_ yeah.
21:00 Peacock annoying as fuck lol
21:00 Niften_ lol
21:00 Niften_ yeah
21:00 Peacock i have a feeling weve seen him around before under another name
21:00 Peacock the most annoying users all seem to have the same personality and writing style lol
21:01 Niften_ true
21:01 Niften_ prestotron502 cant do anything lol
21:01 dafull97 us`0gb, ok thanks!
21:01 Peacock well he's not the only/first one who's all talk lol
21:01 Evergreen My main handicap is: I start something then never finish it
21:01 Evergreen That's why I love collabs
21:01 Peacock in fact, the law of inverse relevance states, the more people talk about doing something, the less they plan on doing anything
21:02 Niften_ evergreen
21:02 Evergreen y u ping me?     :P
21:02 Niften_ we're working on a better biome implementation system
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21:02 Niften_ hi nekogloop
21:02 Peacock when will NekoGloopMkIII be ready?
21:03 us`0gb So if I talk about installing Minecraft all the time then I don't have to actually do it?
21:03 Niften_ technically speaking, yes
21:03 NekoGloopMkII Peacock, during the holiday season, so you can buy your kids one :3
21:04 Peacock kids? why would i want kids? lol
21:04 NekoGloopMkII to eat them, of course
21:04 Peacock noisy, spoiled, wretched creatures - children should be seen and not heard, and preferably not seen
21:04 codehero hmmm. for some reasond minetest doesn't want to download the maps from servers
21:05 Peacock restart and reconnect
21:05 NekoGloopMkII unplug your computer
21:05 NekoGloopMkII toss it out
21:05 Peacock and pour marmalade on it
21:05 NekoGloopMkII clearly there's a virus on it
21:06 codehero of course
21:06 Peacock have you tried submerging it in water?
21:06 Peacock ittl clean the cache XD
21:06 codehero show me a linux virus that can do that :P
21:06 codehero especially one for arch
21:06 NekoGloopMkII People seem to think linux is virus-free
21:06 Peacock you know why there are no linux viruses right? you can't break what's already broken XD (jk)
21:07 NekoGloopMkII You can break what's already broken
21:07 NekoGloopMkII that's why there -are- linux viruses
21:07 NekoGloopMkII take this stick for example.
21:07 * NekoGloopMkII breaks it over codehero's head
21:07 NekoGloopMkII Now, it is broken
21:07 codehero hahaha :P
21:07 NekoGloopMkII But I take one of the pieces...
21:07 * NekoGloopMkII snaps it in half
21:07 Peacock true, you should see how many pieces my last printer ended up when it started chewing up paper lol
21:07 codehero yeah there was some banking virus for linux
21:08 NekoGloopMkII And now what's broken is broken again.
21:08 codehero you had to install it yoursef. wasn't very successful
21:08 Peacock there's the pulseaudio virus which ruins your sound XD
21:09 Evergreen While there are viruses for linux, they are mostly targeted at companies, not home users
21:09 Peacock the unity/gnome3 virus that turns your desktop into a fischer price tablet
21:09 Evergreen Plol
21:09 codehero really. sounds funny
21:10 Peacock and the ubuntu lense virus that sends an inventory of your pron folder to shuttleworth
21:10 codehero well. i only install software from trustworthy sources so i won't have that sort of fun :P
21:10 Peacock (when people talk about online privacy, its mostly about the pron) XD
21:10 Evergreen Plus, if you know the rule, all it can do is harm your home directory
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21:11 codehero yeah. just delete the home folder and you're good to go
21:13 codehero okay it works. the server just didn't want
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21:27 dafull97 us`ogb, you there?
21:28 dafull97 `us`0gb you there?
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21:37 dafull97 Peacock, really?
21:37 Peacock says so in the log lol
21:37 Peacock i think he had to go to work
21:37 Peacock Jack Off in the Box or something like that :P
21:37 dafull97 ohh, well anyone on that case... HAHA...
21:38 dafull97 has anyone used the "currency" mod?
21:38 VanessaE my server has it.
21:40 dafull97 Really? well how do i use the shop... to me it is confusing ;/
21:41 Peacock shops on my server are pretty simple, left-click buy right-click sell
21:42 Peacock each shelf item is a single type of node so you can actually fill up a store and have a display type thing going on
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21:42 dafull97 this looks really simple... https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2263
21:44 VanessaE I don't know how to use the currency mod except that this ^^^^^^ is more complicated than currency
21:44 Peacock store looks like a safe when it should look more like a vending machine
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21:48 dafull97 :/ Peacock, that kinda true :/
21:48 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Add set_name(), set_count(), set_wear() and set_metadata() to Lua ItemStack a9c0961e0c 2013-09-28T14:46:48-07:00 http://git.io/ubeOqw
21:48 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Allow to manually specify param2 in minetest.item_place() and return success 731392866f 2013-09-28T14:46:48-07:00 http://git.io/uhKIzA
21:48 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Use 6d facedir to place upside down slabs and stairs 3804d8a078 2013-09-28T14:45:28-07:00 http://git.io/VHF9dg
21:49 dafull97 VanessaE, can help me?
21:49 VanessaE not really, n
21:49 VanessaE no*
21:52 dafull97 ;?
21:52 dafull97 ;/
21:54 Evergreen PilzAdam: Can you do the same thing with logs that you did with slabs and stairs?
21:54 PilzAdam maybe
21:56 Evergreen I want horizontal logs
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22:02 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Longer range and insta-dig in creative e547d279ab 2013-09-28T14:52:59-07:00 http://git.io/73Yebw
22:09 VanessaE bbl
22:09 Peacock moretrees has them, theyre just seperate nodes
22:10 VanessaE Peacock: no.
22:10 VanessaE 6dfacedir.
22:11 Peacock nein? i must have older version
22:11 VanessaE and there's an abm in there to convert from the old version that did.
22:11 Peacock thats probably why lol im just too lazy to update
22:11 Peacock if this is a duplicate post, might as well trash https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7325
22:12 VanessaE out ->
22:19 paramat Captain Peacock, paragen may be too slow for a server, but to speed it up: define node ids outside ongen function, trees by LVM, use new faster perlin functions. I have to learn the 3rd but the first 2 are done, here's how far i got last night: http://www.mediafire.com/download/zlo​desj6elnyz6o/paragen020lvmparamat.zip
22:23 dafull97 VanessaE, where do i go to let new players start with items
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22:38 paramat Peacock, also you can reduce the number of octaves in the perlin noises, terrain will have less detail though
22:38 dafull97 VanessaE, where do i go to let new players start with items
22:39 ShadowNinja paramat: Do you plan on adding LuaVoxelManip support to your mods?
22:42 paramat Peacock, octa1 and octa2 = 6. octa3 and octa4 = 5. octa 5, octa6 and octa7 = 2. Try that :)
22:42 paramat ShadowNinja, thats what we're doing lol :)
22:43 ShadowNinja :-)
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22:45 ShadowNinja paramat: Can you use git for your minor updates rather than just pushing releases to it? That way there would be some useful history.
22:49 zat Buy a sticker of a strong man looking inside a Caribbean vagina!! http://www.bulkyboy.com/shopb​b/product.php?productid=16246
22:49 paramat i've just started pushing paragen 0.2.0 (non-LVM) to git more often, to back it up, but they're all called 0.2.0, just different commit messages
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22:55 paramat so yes good idea i intend to B)
23:01 dafull97 how do i get to give the new players only items when they start?
23:01 Menche set "give_initial_stuff" to true
23:10 Peacock oups sorry paramat was scrubbing out the bathtub before happy hour commences (cuz i sure as hell won't feel like it afterwards XD)
23:10 Peacock and yes, i defined the nodes outside the ongen functions, i disable the tree functions because for some reason they were spawning way above and w/ no leaves
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23:13 Peacock i was getting this weird "trying to replace content_ignore" warning this afternoon, though that seem to stop when i disabled trees, so im not sure what i fucked up there :/
23:16 kaeza Peacock, maybe "trying to place CONTENT_IGNORE to replace <node> ad x,y,z" ?
23:16 kaeza at*
23:17 Peacock yeah something like that lol
23:17 PilzAdam it usually means you misstyped a nodename
23:17 Peacock well im using get content id
23:19 kaeza if you misstype a node, I believe get_content_id() returns a suitable "nope" value e.g. the id for ignore or nil, not sure which one
23:19 paramat yeah i found lots of bugs last night in paragen, i think one was that, just pushed it to git.
23:20 Peacock i'd look first in the paragen-tree functions, since disabling that did it for me
23:24 paramat aha ... (perhaps), have you added node.id definitions for tree, jungletree, jungleleaves, sleaf, pleaf?
23:24 dafull97 us`0gb here?
23:25 Peacock not really since the trees are defined in outside functions
23:25 codehero VanessaE> may i have interact permission on your survival server?
23:27 dafull97 Peacock
23:27 Peacock Yes Mrs Slocombe?
23:27 dafull97 can you help? - after server shutdown, i was about to startup and this came up:
23:27 dafull97 --worldname takes precedence over previously selected world.
23:27 dafull97 19:24:46: ERROR[main]: Game "/home/minetest/.minetest/games/0gb.us_game" not found
23:28 Peacock why would you have a hidden minetest folder within a minetest folder? somethings' up with the path
23:28 dafull97 no?
23:29 dafull97 had same srtup before
23:29 dafull97 setup*
23:29 Menche i assume that he has a user named 'minetest' with /home/minetest as it's home dir
23:29 dafull97 yes!
23:30 Peacock is the game folder named like in the error message?
23:30 dafull97 yes
23:30 dafull97 before i only had 0gb.us_game
23:30 Peacock for some reason MT isn't finding it
23:30 dafull97 then added the path to see if it helped
23:31 dafull97 i will reboot server...
23:32 dafull97 still same error...
23:32 Menche does /home/minetest/.minetest/games/0gb.us_game exist?
23:33 NekoGloopMkII no
23:36 dafull97 yes
23:39 dafull97 im will try copying it
23:39 * paramat begins to remember mrs slocombe =/
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23:42 dafull97 still nothing :(
23:43 Menche how are you starting minetest?
23:43 dafull97 with a scipt i made
23:44 dafull97 minetest --config /home/minetest/.minetest/minetest.conf --worldname world  --$
23:45 Menche 0gb.us_game/ contains mods/ and game.conf?
23:45 dafull97 minetest --config /home/minetest/.minetest/minetest.conf --worldname world  --worldid 0gb.us_game
23:45 dafull97 i made my own config
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23:46 Menche i don't think --worldid is an option
23:46 Menche try --gameid
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23:46 Menche game.conf is a file that is in a game folder
23:46 dafull97 yes, i know.... what about it? =D
23:47 Menche what does it contain?
23:48 dafull97 name = 0gb.us
23:48 dafull97 common_mods = bucket, creative, doors
23:48 PilzAdam common_mods are no longer supported
23:48 dafull97 that why it wont run? it ran fine before i shut donw for 5 mins
23:48 dafull97 i added new mod, money
23:49 Menche it's probably missing those mods because common isn't used anymore
23:49 Menche try --gameid 0gb.us
23:49 Menche instead of 0gb.us_gmae
23:49 Menche *game
23:50 dafull97 same
23:50 Menche try running just "minetestserver --gameid list" and see if it lists 0gb.us_game
23:51 dafull97 same, but says "0gb.us" not found
23:51 Evergreen Kind of sad that every article I see mentioning minetest only shows off 0.3.1
23:52 Menche yeah
23:52 dafull97 minetest
23:52 dafull97 minimal
23:52 dafull97 that what output is
23:52 Menche it's not finding 0gb.us_game at all then
23:52 dafull97 nope
23:53 Menche does it work if you force it to just use minetest_game?
23:53 dafull97 hmm?
23:53 dafull97 yes
23:53 dafull97 i tried
23:53 Menche any reason to use 0gb.us_game? it's outdated if it uses common_mods
23:53 dafull97 yes, has all my other builds in there
23:54 dafull97 have several buildings there
23:54 Menche uh
23:54 Menche use the same world, but make it use minetest_game
23:55 dafull97 i though a world = Gameid and World?
23:55 dafull97 opps, ahah
23:56 Menche worlds can be used with any game, provided the game defines all the nodes/items used
23:57 Exio4 the base nodes/items without external mods, that is
23:57 Menche at a glance, 0gb.us_game appears to use the same nodenames
23:59 dafull97 well, when i start with minetest or minetest_game as my gameid, i have nothing at all in my world

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