Time Nick Message 00:02 thefamilygrog66 haha Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, just saw what you called that pastebin code 00:02 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan easter egg :P 00:02 [0gb_us] Hmm. I thought I knew how to do this, but I don't know how to do this. How do I install the PPA again? 00:03 thefamilygrog66 I was all like, who's got the ascii pron tab open in my browser? 00:04 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan lollll 00:04 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan i never know what to call shit 00:04 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan thank god i dont have kids 00:04 arsdragonfly http://ppa.launchpad.net/minetestdevs/stable/ubuntu 00:04 arsdragonfly [0gb_us]: ^ 00:04 arsdragonfly then sudo apt-get install minetest 00:05 PilzAdam * minetestc55 00:05 PilzAdam minetest is the 0.3.1 package from the ubuntu repos 00:05 arsdragonfly oh yeah 00:05 arsdragonfly thx 00:06 [0gb_us] That link was only a directory, but I found instructions elsewhere. Thanks! 00:09 thefamilygrog66 http://codeatuts.blogspot.com.au/2012/07/interlude-7-recursion-closures-in-lua.html 00:09 thefamilygrog66 I gotta learn this ^^^ 00:13 [0gb_us] Hmm. minetestc55 is failing to show up in the graphical package manager, but at least the text-based package manager is working. 00:15 VanessaE it ain't minetestc55 anymore 00:15 [0gb_us] Assuming the stable client is free to access it, I'm connecting to the server now. 00:15 VanessaE just minetest 00:15 VanessaE (I think) 00:15 [0gb_us] In the PPA, it's still minetestc55. I just installed it. 00:15 VanessaE odd 00:15 VanessaE someone needs to fix that 00:15 [0gb_us] "sudo apt-get install minetestc55" 00:15 PilzAdam VanessaE, no 00:16 [0gb_us] Yeah, maybe, but "minetest" is taken, so we can't use that. 00:16 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan so many abandoned repos lol 00:16 VanessaE it ain't c55's project anymore and doesn't bear "-c55" anywhere else, so the package needs to be changed 00:16 VanessaE call it minetest-engine or something 00:17 Khaaaaaaaaaaaan what about minetest-supercalifragilisticexpialidocious? 00:17 [0gb_us] It has minetest_game too, it's not just the engine, VanessaE. Though I agree the "c55" might be due for removal. 00:17 PilzAdam calling it minetest would override the one in ubuntu repos, AFAIK 00:17 VanessaE PilzAdam: good 00:17 VanessaE the ubuntu one is hopelessly outdated. 00:17 arsdragonfly ... 00:18 arsdragonfly odd 00:18 PilzAdam so, VanessaE is going to fiddle with launchpad and change it 00:18 VanessaE rename it to minetest-classic and the current one to minetest and done. 00:18 [0gb_us] We can't have that. People should be free to access the full content of the default repos. 00:18 arsdragonfly everyone times out upon joining 00:19 VanessaE arsdragonfly: you running git? 00:19 [0gb_us] Did I (0gb_us) time out? 00:19 arsdragonfly VanessaE: yes 00:19 arsdragonfly [0gb_us]: yes u did 00:20 thefamilygrog66 recursive functions will have to wait - must go play Saints Row now. bye folks! 00:20 arsdragonfly https://github.com/arsdragonfly/advanced_market 00:20 arsdragonfly bye 00:20 arsdragonfly this is the repo of my mod 00:20 [0gb_us] Hmm. I don't think I can connect to the Git version. 00:20 arsdragonfly oh w8 00:21 arsdragonfly I'm running 0.4.7 stable server actually 00:22 [0gb_us] I should be able to connect to that then ... 00:22 Shadowfire_ Man... I have looked over https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1592 to install my texture packs... but I am not getting anywhere with it... what is the deal!!! 00:22 arsdragonfly Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player 00:23 arsdragonfly 0gb_us times out. List of players: 00:23 arsdragonfly maybe you can install the mod and host a server... 00:23 VanessaE Shadowfire_: note the first line of the post - 0.4.8 (or git) only. 00:23 [0gb_us] My server is way too slow. 00:24 VanessaE or which version are you doing? 00:26 arsdragonfly !up 101.244.134.46 30000 00:26 MinetestBot 101.244.134.46:30000 is up (597ms) 00:26 arsdragonfly turned off my DMZ host 00:27 arsdragonfly hopefully someone can connect to it 00:27 VanessaE Shadowfire_: so, which version of mt are you using? 00:29 arsdragonfly VanessaE: can you try connecting to my server? 00:30 VanessaE sure 00:30 VanessaE deader than 4 o'clock. 00:31 VanessaE I can't even ping that IP 00:31 arsdragonfly !up 101.244.134.46 30000 00:31 MinetestBot 101.244.134.46:30000 is up (580ms) 00:31 VanessaE does not answer a telnet request on port 30000 00:31 arsdragonfly I just changed my ISP a few weeks ago... 00:32 Shadowfire_ Well.. I have tried both ways.. neither worked 00:32 Shadowfire_ vut i am rubbing 0.4.7 00:33 Shadowfire_ *but I am running 0.4.7 00:33 VanessaE 0.4.7-release? 00:33 VanessaE or a git nightly? 00:35 Shadowfire_ minetest-git 20130623.f960c3b-1 00:35 VanessaE run-in-place or installed? 00:36 Shadowfire_ compiled for Arch Linux 00:36 arsdragonfly VanessaE could you set up a temporary server with that mod on? 00:37 VanessaE Shadowfire_: but is it a run-in-place build that sits in your homedir, or did you make install it? 00:42 arsdragonfly !up 101.244.134.46 30000 00:42 MinetestBot 101.244.134.46:30000 is up (579ms) 00:42 VanessaE no good. 00:43 [0gb_us] I've got to go to class. See y'all later! 00:43 arsdragonfly see you 00:43 VanessaE ciao 00:44 Mossmanikin Hi folks 00:45 Mossmanikin Evergreen: check PM if you like 00:48 VanessaE hi MM 00:48 losethegame hi 00:48 VanessaE hi losethegame 00:49 losethegame how are you? 00:49 VanessaE I'm okay 00:50 Mossmanikin Nice to read you're ok Vanessa :) 00:50 VanessaE as okay as I ever am, anyways :) 00:50 khonkhortisan I am immune to The Game 00:50 losethegame haha 00:50 * khonkhortisan blames xkcd 00:51 losethegame I was wondering ... 00:51 Mossmanikin Yeah, "okay" can mean a lot of things... 00:51 losethegame few people understand anymore 00:51 VanessaE not anymore, khonkhortisan. 00:51 VanessaE you just lost. 00:52 losethegame haha 00:52 losethegame sadly, I'm constantly losing... 00:54 arsdragonfly https://github.com/arsdragonfly/advanced_market 00:54 arsdragonfly readme added... 00:54 arsdragonfly 101.244.134.46 30000 00:54 Evergreen Mossmanikin: Responded 00:54 arsdragonfly I'm going desperate :-( 00:55 Mossmanikin Evergreen: kk, I#ll check 00:55 VanessaE arsdragonfly: still dead. 00:55 khonkhortisan http://www.losethegame.com/ Rule 2: losing is temporary http://xkcd.com/391/ statement: I've won. Hypothesis: Winning is permanent. Rule 1: always will be playing. I'm still playing a game I've already won. Conclusion: Doesn't this break something? 00:55 khonkhortisan *Conclusion: I'm still... 00:56 losethegame haha 00:57 khonkhortisan Maybe I'm just a carrier now 00:57 losethegame an admin... 00:58 Mossmanikin Evergreen: read and will fix 01:00 losethegame does anyone know of a leveling system? 01:00 Evergreen You learned github very quickly for never using it before. :-) 01:03 Mossmanikin thanks to the windows *.exe, don't have to use command line :D 01:03 VanessaE Achievement Get! Reduce weight to what I was 10 years ago (170kg) 01:03 Mossmanikin GZ! 01:04 VanessaE (that's just a bit shy of 50kg lost so far) 01:06 Mossmanikin pretty impressing 01:06 Evergreen Mossmanikin: I think we should wait until we release the mod before we make a README Also, very impressive VanessaE 01:08 Mossmanikin Evergreen: yeah, agree on that, all we have has to generate without (too many) bugs too 01:08 Evergreen Here is something kind of cool, it generates ascii art fonts. It has AOL fonts, and figlet fonts http://patorjk.com/software/taag/ 01:11 Mossmanikin Pretty cool that link 01:12 arsdragonfly !up 101.244.134.46 30001 01:12 MinetestBot 101.244.134.46:30001 seems to be down 01:13 arsdragonfly !up 101.244.134.46 30001 01:13 MinetestBot 101.244.134.46:30001 is up (796ms) 01:13 arsdragonfly ^server on a phone 01:14 VanessaE arsdragonfly: it's still not working. 01:14 Mossmanikin Maybe we should use something like that; graffiti and undergrowth, like some real wicked underground stuff :D 01:15 Evergreen Mossmanikin: You have an organized and kind of interesting coding style. I like how you make the version number and name in variables to be printed on the terminal. I should organize my code 01:15 Pelayo O_o 01:15 Pelayo amazing... 01:16 Evergreen What's amazing? 01:16 Pelayo minetest is not specially fast in this machine 01:16 PilzAdam do people notice that its possible to write a simple script that responses to MinetestBot's !up, shout it out in the channel and then you get people trying to log in with a password? 01:16 Mossmanikin Evergreen: thx, I like the combination of organized and chaos ;) 01:16 Pelayo but there is no speed difference between using 16x texture packs or 256x ones 01:16 Evergreen I'm gonna go ahead and re organize the code 01:17 PilzAdam you dont get the actual passwords, but you get hashes that can be bruteforced to login into other servers 01:17 Pelayo while minecraft is totally unplayable with more than 32x here 01:17 Pelayo looking forward to test a 512x one :P 01:17 PilzAdam or, actually you dont even have to bruteforce the hash 01:18 Evergreen Gotta go, see ya guys 01:31 PilzAdam bye 02:14 eapsebastian o/ 02:16 eapsebastian hello 02:19 rustyPipe does anyone know how fast Minetest is compared to Minecraft? 02:20 Pelayo depends on your hardware.. for me both have almost the same framerate, but minetest is more constant 02:21 Pelayo minecraft has spikes and slowdowns even with mods that improve performance 02:21 Pelayo minetest needs less memory too.. I was shocked earlier when I was testing a texture pack converter I'm making 02:21 Pelayo with minecraft I can't even try a texture pack higher than 32x 02:21 rustyPipe well, yeah, that would be a given 02:22 rustyPipe why? 02:22 Pelayo not enough memory and video card 02:22 Mossmanikin most people say mt is faster than mc, of course it relly depends on hardware and software (os, drivers...) 02:22 rustyPipe do you run it with something like optifine? 02:22 Pelayo yep, but even with that it's impossible here 02:23 rustyPipe how much RAM do you have? 02:23 Pelayo but I tried a 256x texture pack in minetest and didn't have any difference between it and the default 16x one, it was FAST 02:23 Pelayo 1 gb 02:23 rustyPipe 1 gig of ram? why not add more? 02:23 Pelayo well.. because I have never needed more? 02:23 Pelayo :P 02:24 rustyPipe what do you do that needs only 1 gig? 02:24 Pelayo a little programming, some gaming (most games I love are old, but I beat the last Tomb Raider on this for example, or Fallout 3) 02:25 Pelayo or portal 2.. 02:25 Pelayo if I can run portal 2 I don't need more 02:25 Pelayo (still waiting for the linux release -_-) 02:25 rustyPipe I'm still wondering how you're able to run those games with only 1 gig 02:25 Pelayo fallout 3 was great even with a large number of mods 02:26 Pelayo tried skyrim but that one was unplayable :/ 02:26 Pelayo and of course tomb raider was at min quality and 800x600 :P 02:26 rustyPipe what distro are you running? 02:27 Pelayo linux mint 13 02:27 rustyPipe with what DE? 02:27 rustyPipe or do you just use a WM? 02:27 Pelayo Mate 02:27 rustyPipe same here, but I never use Mate, only i3 02:29 rustyPipe how well does minetest do terrain and chunk generation? 02:29 Mossmanikin quite well ;) 02:30 Pelayo I've been using minetest for a week only, so I don't know the details, I think that's the most cpu intensive task.. it's slow in my laptop but I tried setting up a server in my main box and connecting from the laptop and it's fast this way 02:30 Pelayo (it's slow in my laptop, but playable, something minecraft isn't) 02:31 Pelayo damn intel 945gm... 02:32 rustyPipe does anyone know how chunk generation is handled by mt? 02:33 VanessaE how? 02:33 kahrl hmmmm does 02:33 VanessaE depends on what you mean 02:37 Mossmanikin on my machine both mc and mt is slow... under certain circumstances... both are extremely slow when I have running both at the same time. :D 02:38 Pelayo well I can't even switch to a notepad with minecraft running... 02:38 rustyPipe I mean, how do the chunks get generated when you enter a new part of the world 02:39 Pelayo I don't know the technical details but there are several map generators, and I can say it's faster generating than minecraft, and doesn't cause slowdowns... 02:39 VanessaE they're generated in sections called mapblocks, which are 16x16x16 m cubes. 5x5x5 of those are generated at one time and we sometimes call that a chunk. 02:39 VanessaE it uses perlin noise in various ways to get the land contours and decide what goes where. 02:40 rustyPipe so mapblocks are comparable to worldchunks in mc, or am I wrong? 02:41 VanessaE sorta yeah 02:41 VanessaE but minecraft generates them in 16x256x16m columns 02:42 khonkhortisan Uninstall notepad and tell Explorer to always show file extensions. 02:42 khonkhortisan Using notepad is just a problem waiting to happen 02:43 Pelayo I said "a notepad", not Notepad, I'm using linux so in my case it would be Pluma or Leafpad :P 02:43 khonkhortisan ah. 02:43 rustyPipe do you use the default text editors that come with Mint? 02:44 Pelayo yes, pluma is a good enough fork of gedit, and don't need more than that... leafpad for quick opening text files that don't need any color codes 02:44 rustyPipe who not use vim or emacs? 02:44 rustyPipe *why 02:45 VanessaE gedit (with all its irritations) ftw :) 02:45 khonkhortisan I use vim, kate, and now codeblocks because eclipse broke 02:45 rustyPipe what plugins do you use with vim 02:46 khonkhortisan I only use the basic features of vim 02:46 khonkhortisan I use all channels tab with xchat 02:46 rustyPipe is xchat for irc? 02:46 Pelayo I know how to use vi/vim, but I save that knowledge for routers or an apocalypse where no UI can be started 02:47 khonkhortisan yes 02:47 rustyPipe why not use vim on a daily basis 02:47 rustyPipe khon, have you tried irssi 02:47 khonkhortisan I use vim when I'm editing one file, kate when I'm editing multiple files, and my ide when I need to find the definition of a function 02:47 khonkhortisan yes I have 02:47 VanessaE same reason you don't get a root canal done every day :D 02:47 khonkhortisan also tried tmux 02:48 khonkhortisan hard to get used to text-only programs 02:49 rustyPipe not really once you rice up your environment 02:50 rustyPipe looks like I need to go for about 30 mins 02:55 Mossmanikin k, folks, need some sleep, later 03:32 AWTom Oh no... Sheldon mentioned Ubuntu as his favorite Linux-based operating system. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYwMl_1LWJs 03:33 * [0gb_us] gasps 03:33 [0gb_us] It should be Trisquel! 03:33 [0gb_us] (By the way, I have no idea who that is.) 03:39 AWTom record-breaking television comedy 03:59 khonkhortisan I saw that one 04:13 GNADev|zRokh !d 04:13 GNADev|zRokh !decode 04:13 GNADev|zRokh sfan5, please unquiet me from MinetestBot 04:13 GNADev|zRokh or whatever bot did !decode and !encode 05:55 kaeza t=-32768C, h=-32768% O_o 06:07 VanessaE ouch 06:07 VanessaE "The scanners are jammed, sir. One says a million degrees, the other minus five thousand." 06:08 khonkhortisan black market cpu supercooling 06:21 thefamilygrog66 stack overflow 06:24 VanessaE um..oops? :) 06:28 khonkhortisan concatenation of undefined variables, empty ternary, extraneous closing pherentesis. ^ 06:28 khonkhortisan *th 06:29 khonkhortisan parenthesis 06:39 VanessaE lol 06:43 VanessaE http://www.tubeclockdb.com/forum/Builders-Forum/2956-Edgelit-Reloaded.html 06:44 VanessaE oh this is just badass 06:44 VanessaE I gotta build me a few of those ^^^ 06:45 VanessaE (and this was last year) 06:54 khonkhortisan oh those are just spots, not lights 06:54 VanessaE right 06:54 VanessaE edge-lit. still cool as hell 06:59 thefamilygrog66 got some recursive function action happening 07:02 jin_xi to truly understand recursion one must first understand recursion 07:05 khonkhortisan backwards recursion is where the true paradox lies 07:27 artur99 hey, what's new on minetest? 07:27 Calinou artur99: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 07:28 artur99 what is the drowning ? 07:30 VanessaE you lose health and eventually die, underwater 07:30 artur99 like in minecraft? 07:31 VanessaE if you stay under too long that is 07:31 khonkhortisan after losing air 07:31 VanessaE idk, maybe 07:31 VanessaE never played minecraft. 07:31 artur99 oh, that's nice :D 07:39 [0gb_us] VanessaE, you're not missing anything good. 07:39 VanessaE heh 07:40 VanessaE ok, I must really be bored, now I'm watching youtube videos of music-making tesla coils. heh 07:40 [0gb_us] Ha ha, nice. 07:41 [0gb_us] SO drowning is defined per-node, right? So if I fail to define any nodes with suffocating properties, drowning will not exist? 07:41 [0gb_us] *So 07:41 VanessaE no idea 07:42 [0gb_us] Meh. I'll just test it when drowning hits the PPA. 07:42 VanessaE it's already there 07:42 VanessaE been in git for a while now, so it should be in the ppa if you're running nightlies. 07:42 [0gb_us] I didn't realize there was an unstable PPA. 07:43 [0gb_us] I guess I should rephrase then: when it hits the stable PPA. Or I could install from the unstable PPA on my other system ... 07:43 [0gb_us] Anyway, I've got to get to bed. G'night! 07:45 VanessaE night 07:45 artur99 day! here's 10 am 07:45 artur99 :D 07:46 VanessaE 03:45 here 07:46 artur99 am? 07:46 VanessaE :46.. 07:46 artur99 night? 07:46 [0gb_us] It's 0:47 here. 07:46 VanessaE yeah 07:46 Calinou night [0gb_us] 07:46 Calinou 9:46 here 07:46 artur99 i must go, bye! 08:28 khonkhortisan 1:28 here 09:15 kaeza http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20130907.png 10:12 rubenwardy Hi all 11:05 rubenwardy Hi BlockMen! 11:06 BlockMen hello 11:07 BlockMen rubenwardy, btw...i noticed something -> https://github.com/rubenwardy/food/blob/ActualVersion2/init.lua#L65 11:07 BlockMen it must be amt, not hunger_change 11:07 rubenwardy ah yeah 11:07 BlockMen and thanks for adding support ;) 11:08 rubenwardy Cant believe I missed it 11:08 rubenwardy Added support for other mods is what makes the food mod special from other food mods. 11:08 rubenwardy *adding 11:08 rubenwardy That and crap graphics 11:09 rubenwardy https://github.com/rubenwardy/food/commit/8c4807fe74f465eece951496edb67ad56cc1a6ac 11:10 BlockMen issues like that are the common^^ 11:11 BlockMen my favorite is a missing letter 11:11 rubenwardy yeah 11:11 rubenwardy or too many like: "mminetest.register..." 11:13 sfan5 mminnettesst? 11:13 * sfan5 pokes PilzAdam 11:13 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:13 Hunterz hi 11:13 sfan5 hi 11:14 * PilzAdam pokes sfan5 with a ? 11:14 sfan5 stick 11:14 sfan5 a stick 11:14 Hunterz please have minetest something like anti grief plugins, and admin tools ? 11:14 sfan5 s/plugins/mods/ 11:14 sfan5 yes, sure 11:14 rubenwardy search mod forum 11:15 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1144 11:15 sfan5 WorldEdit is helpful for doing things 11:15 Hunterz i know bukkit servers 11:15 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2359 11:15 rubenwardy qwerty 11:16 Hunterz mods are in lua? 11:19 rubenwardy yes 11:29 GNADev|zRokh hi 11:30 GNADev|zRokh khh.....john_minetest, do you copy?...khh... 11:33 GNADev|zRokh khh...VanessaE, do you copy...khh... 12:10 paramat Hi PilzAdam, everyone. Reading IRC logs i saw celeron55 mentioning larger trees for Minetest game. I am suggesting my slabrealm mod jungletrees be the new jungletree. I feel the boxy design is true to Minetest character, they are tall but contain only a few more nodes than an appltree, the double layer of leaves creates interlaced platforms that enable walking and jumping through the canopy http://i.imgur.com/Ar6ecZ8.png 12:11 sfan5 these jungletrees are nice 12:12 PilzAdam http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/346/Pilztest_textures_3.png 12:12 PilzAdam what about these jungletrees? 12:13 PilzAdam these have 3 layers of leaves, one of them is at the ground to get a jungle-ish feeling 12:14 paramat Ooh those are nice, pilztest i presume. 12:14 PilzAdam dunno how that would work with junglegrass, there need to be either less leaves at the ground or junglegrass on the leaves 12:14 PilzAdam yea, thats pilztest 12:14 * sfan5 votes for less leaves on the ground and higher trees 12:17 paramat Almost solid leaves enables digging a tunnel and stairway to the treetops at any point, i did that in my fork of conifers mod its a lot of fun. 12:18 paramat My tree design is ultra minimal because it's part of a lua mapgen (pre luvmanips), perhaps too minimal for core trees ... 12:52 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111215#p111215 12:56 sfan5 wat 12:56 PilzAdam sfan5, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110437#p110437 12:57 sfan5 yes saw that 12:57 sfan5 but still 12:57 sfan5 why? 12:57 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111216#p111216 13:01 milzou hi 13:20 arsdragonfly I'm running into certification errors when trying to access the forum 13:30 sfan5 arsdragonfly: update your browser 13:42 PilzAdam ShadowBot, maske999 is aimpotting on your server 13:42 PilzAdam * ShadowNinja 13:54 thexyz do we tolerate this? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111205#p111205 13:58 sfan5 I don't know 14:50 GNADev|zRokh hi 14:50 GNADev|zRokh could someone please help me change the C++ code so that the map isnt big 14:50 GNADev|zRokh maybe 100x100x100 blocks 14:50 GNADev|zRokh i just want a place where i can test my mods 14:55 arsdragonfly Use singlenode mapgen + worldedit mod 14:55 GNADev|zRokh and i also dont want to backup the map before 14:55 GNADev|zRokh :) 14:58 kaeza jusr make a throwaway map 14:58 GNADev|zRokh define plz? 14:58 kaeza the map isn't generated beyond what you explore anyway 14:59 GNADev|zRokh well it still lags :/ 15:00 kaeza well, your comp really sucks then 15:00 GNADev|zRokh i know... 15:00 GNADev|zRokh :D 15:00 kaeza or you are doing something wrong in code 15:00 GNADev|zRokh well..... 15:00 GNADev|zRokh could i get a name for a VERY tiny texturepack? 15:01 GNADev|zRokh like 6x6 or better yet, 1x1 :D 15:01 kaeza :| 15:02 Pelayo 1x1 is not a texture pack, but a color pack 15:02 GNADev|zRokh ok, can i get one? 15:02 GNADev|zRokh :) 15:02 arsdragonfly A palette maybe 15:02 kaeza just backup your minetest_game and do "find minetest_game/ -name '*.png' -exec rm '{}' ';'" :P 15:03 kaeza there you have your 1px pack :P 15:04 arsdragonfly kaeza you made me remember that the engine creates dummy textures for missing textures 15:04 GNADev|zRokh thanks 15:05 kaeza GNADev|zRokh, what hardware BTW? 15:05 kaeza inb4 80486 :P 15:07 GNADev|zRokh wait... 15:07 GNADev|zRokh if i would delete ALL textures then the engine would create dummies? 15:07 GNADev|zRokh GENIUS :D 15:08 GNADev|zRokh thanks dood :D 15:09 * kaeza randomly pokes Jordach 15:09 * Jordach pokes back 15:09 * Jordach finally got a phone 15:09 kaeza \o/ 15:10 Jordach It's a SAMSUNG. 15:10 kaeza :I 15:10 * kaeza is still stuck with his Nokia Asha 308 15:11 svuorela ITYM Microsoft Asha 15:16 Jordach kaeza, mines like a blackberry 15:16 Jordach full qwerty keyboard 15:16 * GNADev|zRokh is compiling Minetest 15:16 GNADev|zRokh hey, what does json do? 15:16 GNADev|zRokh what is it used for? 15:17 kaeza some obscure stuff 15:17 kaeza master server info AFAIK 15:17 GNADev|zRokh oh ok 15:17 GNADev|zRokh hey, i have a question, does anybody play Quake? 15:17 GNADev|zRokh the first one 15:18 GNADev|zRokh with DosBox (or something familiar) 15:18 GNADev|zRokh because im bored... i wanna play with real people 15:18 kaeza GNADev|zRokh, check out DarkPlaces 15:18 GNADev|zRokh ok, thanks :D 15:19 GNADev|zRokh wait... 15:19 GNADev|zRokh Quake I HD? 15:19 GNADev|zRokh WTF! 15:19 GNADev|zRokh :O 15:20 GNADev|zRokh wait... 15:20 * GNADev|zRokh does some Sherlock Holmes shit 15:21 GNADev|zRokh im guessing that kaeza knows about DarkPlaces because he (used to) play(s) Quake I... 15:21 GNADev|zRokh am i right? 15:22 kaeza GNADev|zRokh, I'm more of HL/CS, but yes 15:22 GNADev|zRokh :O 15:22 GNADev|zRokh i cant play cs... 15:22 GNADev|zRokh i cant seem to get Wine working with it :? 15:22 GNADev|zRokh :/ 15:22 kaeza (fun fact: you can load HL maps into darkplaces) 15:22 GNADev|zRokh always there is some error... 15:22 GNADev|zRokh :O 15:23 GNADev|zRokh i know why 15:23 kaeza it's (almost) the same engine! 15:23 GNADev|zRokh because the goldsrc (Gold Source) engine is a VERY modified version of the Quake engine 15:23 GNADev|zRokh :/ 15:23 GNADev|zRokh and HL uses Gold Source 15:23 GNADev|zRokh :) 15:23 kaeza yep 15:23 * GNADev|zRokh is a genius at this sort of things 15:24 * kaeza is an HL/CS Mapper 15:24 GNADev|zRokh hey, btw, could you help me install DarkPlaces? 15:24 kaeza no? 15:24 kaeza just download and run 15:25 GNADev|zRokh :O 15:25 GNADev|zRokh RLLY? 15:25 GNADev|zRokh nice :D 15:25 GNADev|zRokh Valve Hammer doesnt work on my computer at all :D 15:25 GNADev|zRokh or any other computers i've owned 15:25 GNADev|zRokh oh 15:25 GNADev|zRokh lol :D 15:25 GNADev|zRokh i love Pidgin 15:28 PilzAdam brb 15:52 Jordach sfan5, PilzAdam: OpenSpades on ShadowNinja's server 15:58 * Jordach wonders something strange 15:58 Jordach at my college, their chrome has a google search bar (like on https://google.com) but my version right now doesnt have it 16:20 NekoGloop Jordach, it's a new update 16:20 NekoGloop maybe you've turned off chrome's autoupdate 16:21 Calinou you can turn it off? O_o 16:22 NekoGloop I'm pretty sure 16:23 NekoGloop Hm... I thought you could... 16:24 NekoGloop Ok maybe you turned it off the same way I turned off windows updater: by deleting the relative files 16:41 rubenwardy Hi all 16:42 [0gb_us] Hello! 16:51 Jordach wat 16:51 Jordach > https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111229#p111229 16:53 [0gb_us] Jordach, he's bad with computers. I don't see your point. 16:56 Jordach > Linux 16:56 Jordach > Good with computers 16:59 [0gb_us] Windows is what you need luck with. GNU/Linux just works. 17:01 Jordach \o/ https://f.cloud.github.com/assets/3742497/1173975/133db760-2141-11e3-9fc1-4bf9247c8961.png 17:02 [0gb_us] Is that supposed to be from inside one of those fighting robots? 17:02 Jordach BlockMen, nice Master Chief HUD 17:04 BlockMen Jordach, thx 17:06 Jordach is that for your lovely wasteland? 17:06 Jordach * 17:08 BlockMen hmm...maybe. dont know yet 17:24 BlockMen btw wasteland, can you move to games? -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7243 17:27 sfan5 BlockMen: moved 17:28 sfan5 also how did you know I was thinking about making a wasteland mod? 17:28 Jordach BlockMen = PilzAdam = sfan5 17:28 sfan5 (apparently everyone seems to read my toughts and make them as a mod) 17:28 [0gb_us] I KNEW IT! 17:28 Jordach yes Inocudom, sit down 17:28 BlockMen sfan5, thx. and i can read minds :P 17:28 sfan5 :P 17:28 [0gb_us] Okay, I'll get back to my homework. 17:29 sfan5 time to install mac os x 17:29 sfan5 wait 17:29 [0gb_us] NoooOOOOoooo!!! Install Trisquel! 17:29 sfan5 I have to make a partition on my hdd first 17:29 sfan5 I already have Linux and Windumb installed 17:29 BlockMen Jordach, yes. every german is the same person. 80 mio. times :D 17:29 sfan5 so... 17:30 kaeza nah BlockMen doesn't fit sfan5's persona 17:31 kaeza OTOH PilzAdam... 17:31 kaeza :P 17:31 [0gb_us] He's acting. 17:31 * sfan5 is bad atacting 17:31 sfan5 wat 17:31 sfan5 acting* 17:31 kaeza attacking! 17:31 sfan5 heh 17:31 sfan5 plol 17:32 [0gb_us] Like when I act as Inocudom 17:32 sfan5 more like attackting! 17:32 [0gb_us] . 17:32 * BlockMen is transforming, not acting :P 17:32 [0gb_us] "Is" or "are". 17:32 jin_xi you are what you is 17:32 Jordach okay, wtd 17:32 [0gb_us] "BlockMen" is plural/ 17:32 [0gb_us] . 17:32 sfan5 s/Block[a-Z0-9]+/BlockTransformer/ 17:32 Jordach wtf, when did i do THAT!? 17:33 sfan5 cmon resize2fs... 17:33 sfan5 do it faster 17:33 Jordach i found an old file lying around on D:/Desktop_of_XPHOME/Clean Up 17:34 sfan5 post it! post it! postit! 17:34 Jordach strangely; i managed to make a 1:1 copy of lavender town from the GB 17:34 sfan5 post it on a postit! 17:40 Jordach im down to my final ~3GB on my media partiton 17:40 Jordach it's taken me two years to fill it 17:41 [0gb_us] My drive is too small, clocking in at about 80 GiB. It fills all the time and I have to empty it. 17:41 Jordach sfan5, http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/lavender-town-1-1-clone/ 17:44 Jordach HOLY SHITBALLS 17:44 Jordach just found my camping trip on my drive 17:44 [0gb_us] A trip on a drive? That makes no sense. 17:45 Jordach [0gb_us], i found the photos 17:45 [0gb_us] Oh, okay. 17:47 Jordach the rest of my class probably deleted them or lost them; luckily i'm a fucking archive 18:06 MinetestBot GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest: Add option to scale image to percentage values 27947d85f7 2013-09-20T11:03:58-07:00 http://git.io/XbJr5A 18:06 * Jordach added 3.78gb of music to his Samsung phone, now waits for the music player to catch up 18:09 Jordach my phone IS WAY better at playback than my 3DS 18:09 * Jordach actually gets bass 18:11 Jordach but it's got that same back cover as te SGS2 18:14 Jordach \o/ it actually doesnt go 1,10,11,12,13 etc 18:18 Pelayo wow 18:18 Pelayo ios7 has a known exploit already 18:19 Jordach theres always an exploit 18:19 Pelayo but not as simple as this one 18:19 Pelayo :P 18:19 Pelayo http://apple.slashdot.org/story/13/09/20/1249243/ios-7-lock-screen-bug-leaves-certain-apps-vulnerable-for-access 18:20 Pelayo you don't even need to crack the fingerprint system 18:20 Jordach oh jesus: friendster is supported by my phone :( 18:20 Jordach >myspace 18:20 Pelayo I only have low end phones so I'm used to not having support.. 18:21 Jordach Pelayo, mine too 18:21 Jordach most low end Samsungs are high end dumbphones 18:21 Jordach (like blackberries) 18:21 Pelayo well, galaxy mini is a good piece of hardware... limited, but hard as a brick 18:22 Jordach and a removable battery 18:22 Pelayo it's one of the most solid non-nokia phones I had 19:35 Jordach hey Calinou 19:35 Calinou hi 19:45 BlockMen Calinou, could you maybe add a link to the official wiki on wiki.minetest.com? it still seems to be not clear for users -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7254 19:46 BlockMen maybe a box like here? -> http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/User:BlockMen/ReworkedMain 19:57 Pelayo ugh, rebuilding the minecraft chest texture into a block texture is tedious... 19:57 [0gb_us] Why is that, Pelayo? 19:58 Pelayo minecraft uses one png for all sides of the chest, and the "lock" is a separate texture in that png 19:59 [0gb_us] I see. That does seem bothersome to convert. 20:01 Pelayo finally did that this way.. 20:01 Pelayo convert "$TEMPDIR/assets/minecraft/textures/entity/chest/normal.png" -crop 14x5+14+14 "$OUTPUTDIR/chest-temp-cover.png" && convert "$TEMPDIR/assets/minecraft/textures/entity/chest/normal.png" -crop 14x10+14+33 "$OUTPUTDIR/chest-temp-chest.png" && convert "$TEMPDIR/assets/minecraft/textures/entity/chest/normal.png" -crop 2x4+1+1 "$OUTPUTDIR/chest-temp-lock.png" && convert -append "$OUTPUTDIR/chest-temp-cover.png" "$OUTPUTDIR/che 20:01 Pelayo st-temp-chest.png" "$OUTPUTDIR/chest-temp-almostfinal.png" && convert "$OUTPUTDIR/chest-temp-almostfinal.png" "$OUTPUTDIR/chest-temp-lock.png" -geometry 2x4+6+3 -composite "$OUTPUTDIR/default_chest_front.png" 20:02 Pelayo ugh 20:02 Pelayo so long 20:05 Pelayo the distribution from chest/normal.png is like this https://mojang.atlassian.net/secure/attachment/26469/chest.png 20:06 Pelayo and it took me about 1 hour with imagemagick -_- I should learn more 20:08 Pelayo at least now I know how to overlay bitmaps with imagemagick 20:11 Jordach Pelayo, i already have images like these goddammit 20:12 Pelayo mm? 20:12 Jordach in fact quite a bit of it is complete, want it 20:12 Jordach (default is done, and various other mods) 20:12 Pelayo no, what I'm doing is a converter script for minecraft resource packs to minetest texture packs 20:12 Pelayo I don't need the images themselves 20:13 Pelayo I'm using minecraft jar as source.. right now it works mostly fine for texture packs up to 64x 20:13 ShadowNinja Pelayo: I have one written in python. 20:14 Pelayo I'm doing this one in bash 20:14 ShadowNinja It requires a unpacked texture pack however, and it converts a 512x pack in miniseconds. 20:15 Pelayo wow, mine needs about 5 seconds 20:15 ShadowNinja (Or seconds maybe, I haven't used it in a while) 20:15 Pelayo but it includes unpacking to a temp directory 20:15 Pelayo haven't tested with anything over 128x because of low disk space 20:15 ShadowNinja Python will definitely be faster than shell. 20:16 ShadowNinja Unless you do the whole conversion with one or two huge commands... 20:17 Pelayo yep, but that requires installing "things".. I usually do things like this in bash because then is more or less easy to "port" it to windows batch files and include all required soft (imagemagick's convert.exe, grep.exe, etc) 20:17 Pelayo my biggest problem is the grass texture 20:18 Pelayo I don't know the right method to apply the biome color to it 20:18 Pelayo I think I'm getting the exact pixel from the gradient png but the color isn't always perfect 20:20 Pelayo I think the best thing will be not touching that an warning grass, leaves will need manual editing 20:20 e1z0 heya 20:20 Pelayo hi 20:21 e1z0 sup 20:23 Pelayo mm right now my parameters for grass work almost fine for the default minecraft textures, but fail with others 20:23 Pelayo http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6938/nnrf.png 20:24 Pelayo (still have to fix torches rotation) 20:24 ShadowNinja Pelayo: Hunger? 20:24 Pelayo yep, hud mod 20:26 ShadowNinja What happens to breath? 20:27 Pelayo works fine too, the only textures that aren't converted yet from the hud are the armor ones 20:31 Pelayo http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4418/fi8h.png 20:33 johnDC hello, can anybody tell me, why I have a red-colored world (in my local win32 build)? 20:33 ShadowNinja johnDC: Disable shaders. 20:34 johnDC ShadowNinja: thank you :) 20:34 ShadowNinja You're welcome. :-) 20:35 ShadowNinja Hmmm, we should have a FAQ page... 20:37 kaeza ShadowNinja, there is one 20:37 kaeza (Sticky in GD) 20:40 ShadowNinja kaeza: I meant on the website, not the forum. 20:41 ShadowNinja kaeza: I see no FAQ page in General Discussion. 20:41 kaeza well, at least you have a starting point :) 20:42 kaeza huh 20:43 kaeza ah bugs & problems: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3829 20:47 Jordach Pelayo, what are you exactly doing? 20:49 Pelayo a minecraft resource pack -> minetest texture pack converter 20:50 Pelayo 95% of it is just copying and renaming, but some textures are tricky, like hud or grass (because of the damn biomes) 20:52 Jordach Pelayo, GIMP Colourise: Hue = 105, Saturation = 40, Lightness = -10 20:53 Pelayo taking the reference color from the texture pack's biome gradient? 20:54 Jordach Pelayo, personal preference: http://i.imgur.com/ja9Ue3z.png 20:55 Jordach but keep it close to that area: too dark and the grass looks oily, too light and the grass looks dried 20:55 Pelayo I want to do it automatically, taking the reference from the texture pack itself but I'm not entirely sure about how minecraft applies the biome color, right now applying the color without any other settings it's really bright, so I reduce the gamma to 20% 20:55 Jordach too green means it's more of a jungle 20:56 Pelayo this is how I'm doing it: convert "$TEMPDIR/assets/minecraft/textures/blocks/grass_top.png" \( +clone +matte -fill $grasscolor -colorize 100% +clone +swap -compose overlay -composite \) -compose SrcIn -composite -gamma 0.4 "$OUTPUTDIR/default_grass.png" 20:56 Pelayo $grasscolor is taken from /assets/minecraft/textures/colormap/grass.png, coords 128x128 20:57 Pelayo and it works great for mc's default textures, but other texture packs look too dark 20:59 Pelayo nah, I think I will force a default color like the one you said, and include the original file for doing it manually if it doesn't fit with that texture pack 21:05 * Jordach is being trolled by the torrent's ETA 21:05 Jordach 4w,0d 21:05 Jordach 5w,6d; new record 21:06 Jordach it's like windows time remaining guy coded that... 21:10 ShadowNinja LOL 21:11 ShadowNinja http://xkcd.com/612/ 21:11 Jordach 6w,6d apparently 21:12 Jordach 7w,2d 21:12 Jordach 10w,3d 21:12 Jordach oh ffs 21:13 Pelayo well they did it right in win8... 21:13 Pelayo but too little, too late 21:13 ShadowNinja Jordach: You haven't closed it yet? 21:16 Jordach ShadowNinja, http://i.imgur.com/nIfXTuQ.png 21:16 ShadowNinja plol 21:19 * john_minetest is discussing GUI and CLI on an other channel. 21:21 Jordach im a patient ol' fuck 21:22 e1z0 yo guys 21:22 e1z0 wanna real speed ? 21:22 e1z0 i show it to you 21:24 e1z0 http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1208786_10200542638837568_249710907_n.jpg 21:25 e1z0 yeah, i have four 100mbps optic lines 21:25 e1z0 in the europe 21:25 e1z0 :-) 21:25 e1z0 they cost to me like washing car 21:26 e1z0 once in the month 21:29 * john_minetest throws a kitty biscuit at NekoGloop 21:32 johnDC Any idea how to limit world size? e.g. when generating map, say, I need world only 10 x 10 chunks big. 21:40 johnDC john_minetest: actually I want to generate terrain, it the same way like nove, when creating new world, just with one param - world size 21:40 johnDC john_minetest: currently I'm looking into mapgenv7 sources to find how to do it 21:56 Pelayo hahahaha 21:56 Pelayo Ballmer calls Google a 'monopoly' that authorities should control 21:58 proller #define MAP_GENERATION_LIMIT 10 21:59 Pelayo mmm I like Steam's detailed changelogs 21:59 Pelayo We have just updated the beta, with the following changes: 21:59 Pelayo - added support for upcoming features 21:59 Pelayo and that's all 22:07 Pelayo yep, it's funny (well, it isn't really) seeing how apple and google are free to do the same things MS would get people with pitchforks and torches coming to them 22:19 Pelayo bye 22:19 VanessaE hi all 22:19 Pelayo hi 22:49 Jordach hey VanessaE 22:50 VanessaE hey 22:51 Jordach ill be here over the weekend 22:51 Jordach oh, you might wanna check my profile ;) 22:52 VanessaE what about it? 22:52 * Jordach slaps VLC stickers all over thexyz's computers 22:52 * harrison gulps Potion of Durability 22:52 Jordach VanessaE, new image 22:52 VanessaE oh heh 22:52 ShadowNinja Hows this? http://minetest.net/faq 22:52 Jordach VanessaE, troll torrent: http://i.imgur.com/nIfXTuQ.png 22:53 VanessaE haha 22:54 VanessaE haven't even been on the forums yet this afternoon 22:54 VanessaE (evening) 22:55 Jordach ShadowNinja, http://i.imgur.com/sjFvIrF.png 22:55 Jordach moreover 22:56 Jordach c55.me has a copy somewhere, ill dig it up 22:59 Jordach good news; got a copy of the installer 23:02 Jordach ShadowNinja, fixed download link and updated instruction 23:05 Jordach muahahahahahaha 23:05 * harrison gulps another Potion of Durability 23:11 ungali :d3 23:12 * ungali typed into the wrong term. disregard that 23:25 Jordach fucking VLC bug 23:25 Jordach i cant convert file a to file b if they're in the same FOLDER. but if i do the same and have the output to my desktop, it works 23:27 ungali just use ffmpeg? 23:28 PilzAdam I think hes on win 23:29 ungali I use ffmpeg+winff on XP 23:29 Pelayo there are ffmpeg and mencoder for win 23:29 ShadowNinja What is the name of the navigagton bar page? 23:30 arsdragonfly https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7253 23:30 PilzAdam Pelayo, but everything sucks on windows 23:30 arsdragonfly Check this out 23:30 Jordach PilzAdam, BlockMen doesnt suck 23:31 PilzAdam does he run on win? 23:31 ungali *ahem* windows+cygwin doesn't suck. I'm using it right now 23:32 Jordach VanessaE, i think you got what i was meaning for my next render 23:32 VanessaE yup. 23:32 Pelayo the cygwin installer sucks more than any other thing ever done for windows :/ 23:32 VanessaE it was just a ...ahem...small step to figure it out :) 23:34 ungali Pelayo: agreed. they need a cli package manager more than anything 23:35 Pelayo an apt or emerge clone would be great 23:35 ungali http://code.google.com/p/cyg-apt/ 23:36 ungali just googled this 23:36 Pelayo oh, nice 23:48 Jordach dammit VanessaE 23:50 VanessaE what? 23:51 Jordach stop giving my shit awau 23:51 Jordach away* 23:51 * away accepts all shit