| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:07 |
Peacock |
sweeeeeet: http://tech.slashdot.org/story/13/09/18/1836259/brazil-announces-plans-to-move-away-from-us-centric-internet?utm_source=slashdot&utm_medium=twitter |
| 00:07 |
Peacock |
whatever gets em off my server lol |
| 00:09 |
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| 00:11 |
kaeza |
Peacock, lol |
| 00:14 |
Peacock |
that's one country i wouldn't miss lol |
| 00:20 |
kaeza |
I agree with Vilma Rousett's measures though :P |
| 00:20 |
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| 00:20 |
kaeza |
(not that it's going to help anyway :P) |
| 00:21 |
Exio4 |
that means less latency to people here though |
| 00:21 |
Exio4 |
i guess argentina and other countries will take those wires, too |
| 00:24 |
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| 00:24 |
Peacock |
why wouldn't it help? |
| 00:24 |
kaeza |
I mean help with the privacy issues |
| 00:24 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: the data will end in the US anyway |
| 00:25 |
Exio4 |
with 50ms more of latency though |
| 00:25 |
Peacock |
from what i understand they go as far as tapping the cables in the atlantic, so yeah |
| 00:25 |
Peacock |
an isolated network won't do jack |
| 00:29 |
Peacock |
still, would be nice to have geolocation in lua to throw these douches out of my server lol |
| 00:30 |
kaeza |
Peacock, you can do that in a hacky way :P |
| 00:30 |
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| 00:31 |
Peacock |
with luasocket and geoip websites? |
| 00:31 |
kaeza |
yep |
| 00:31 |
Exio4 |
isn't there a curl api |
| 00:31 |
kaeza |
or just plain match a range of addresses against get_player_ip() |
| 00:32 |
Exio4 |
that would be insane |
| 00:32 |
kaeza |
err... the other way around |
| 00:32 |
Peacock |
i already have a 200 entry long ip range block script just for BR, and it doesn't get all of them lol |
| 00:32 |
Exio4 |
you need a proper geoip database and doing that work in lua would be painfully slow |
| 00:32 |
kaeza |
well, if they use a proxy it's useless anyway :P |
| 00:32 |
Exio4 |
make a C library for that and use the FFI to use it |
| 00:33 |
Exio4 |
as an optional dependency |
| 00:33 |
Peacock |
ive thought about using the websites, but thats probably not how they intended their websites to be used |
| 00:33 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: http://geolite.maxmind.com/download/geoip/database/GeoIPCountryCSV.zip |
| 00:34 |
Peacock |
that c or lua? |
| 00:34 |
Exio4 |
it is a CSV with data |
| 00:35 |
* Exio4 |
took that link from the script country.py |
| 00:35 |
Peacock |
wouldn't it be awesome if MT just told the location of servers and players lol |
| 00:35 |
Peacock |
heck even wolfenstein does that and its over a decade old lol |
| 00:36 |
kaeza |
Peacock, just parse the CSV data :P |
| 00:36 |
kaeza |
(and make a mod) |
| 00:36 |
Peacock |
yeah but lua would be hella slow |
| 00:36 |
kaeza |
querying an online DB is overkill for this |
| 00:36 |
Exio4 |
as i said |
| 00:36 |
Exio4 |
i would make a C library and use it from lua |
| 00:38 |
kaeza |
^ probably fastest |
| 00:38 |
Exio4 |
it could even have things like memoization to be even faster |
| 00:39 |
arsdragonfly |
What's the point of getting geolocations? |
| 00:39 |
Exio4 |
Peacock is a neonazi |
| 00:39 |
Exio4 |
that is a valid point, i guess |
| 00:39 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 00:40 |
Peacock |
yes, because arriving at the conclusion that 99.9% of players from a given country is going to grief and lag your server is a nazi pov |
| 00:40 |
Peacock |
id argue its the opposite - nationalist players only respect their own servers while griefing those of foreigners (to them) |
| 00:40 |
Exio4 |
that is the neo part |
| 00:41 |
Peacock |
so neo = opposite? |
| 00:41 |
Exio4 |
no |
| 00:41 |
Exio4 |
but it means you can do whatever you want and still say you are a nazi |
| 00:41 |
Exio4 |
because neo = new so why not |
| 00:41 |
Exio4 |
anyway |
| 00:41 |
Peacock |
its surely no coincidence BR players are banned from quite a few online games for the same reasons |
| 00:41 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: do you have interact by default? |
| 00:42 |
Peacock |
yeah because i expect people to be decent, most are |
| 00:42 |
Exio4 |
what if you just, instead of banning, make BR people to don't have interact? :P |
| 00:42 |
Exio4 |
by default |
| 00:43 |
Exio4 |
so if some real user goes to the server he could actually be l33t and ask for privs |
| 00:43 |
arsdragonfly |
Admin: Hey dude stop griefing BR: dduhfnf/?%...(portuguese) |
| 00:44 |
Peacock |
i do already block most BR adresses |
| 00:44 |
Peacock |
heck on league of legends, they have a south america server and they still come on the north america server to fuck things up |
| 00:45 |
kaeza |
huehuehue |
| 00:45 |
kaeza |
lol lol |
| 00:45 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 00:45 |
Exio4 |
ew |
| 00:46 |
arsdragonfly |
Dunno how you knew they are BR |
| 00:46 |
Peacock |
seriously, if theyre only interested in building on BR servers, they should stick to BR servers lol |
| 00:46 |
Exio4 |
not all the people from the south is bad |
| 00:46 |
Peacock |
because i check every IP now |
| 00:46 |
Exio4 |
;-; |
| 00:46 |
Peacock |
i didn't say south, just brazil |
| 00:46 |
Exio4 |
racist |
| 00:46 |
Peacock |
i have family in Peru and Mexico, and the cultures not at all the same |
| 00:47 |
Exio4 |
argentina ftw \o/ |
| 00:47 |
Peacock |
lol so nationality is now a race? |
| 00:47 |
Exio4 |
yes |
| 00:47 |
arsdragonfly |
You checked every ip in LOL? |
| 00:47 |
Exio4 |
because you don't like black people |
| 00:47 |
Exio4 |
(i just want to say BS til i leave \o/) |
| 00:48 |
Peacock |
i check every IP that comes onto my server |
| 00:48 |
Exio4 |
you should make a library for parsing that then |
| 00:48 |
Peacock |
though its funny that BR players also cry the race card on LoL forums |
| 00:50 |
Peacock |
though that shtick is getting old in Can & US |
| 00:50 |
arsdragonfly |
I remember the time when my little brother first played minecraft, and all he did looked like griefing :P |
| 00:50 |
Exio4 |
lol |
| 00:50 |
Peacock |
griefers can be any age, newbies like people bored with the game |
| 00:50 |
arsdragonfly |
Which makes me doubt if all men are born evil :P |
| 00:51 |
Exio4 |
my stuff still looks like griefing |
| 00:51 |
Exio4 |
i have in minecraft a whole island covered with clay and was wool covered before |
| 00:51 |
Peacock |
well unless you put torches all over the place... lol |
| 00:51 |
Exio4 |
well |
| 00:51 |
Exio4 |
i'm leaving |
| 00:51 |
Peacock |
i dont get why people play a building game if they have nothing to build |
| 00:52 |
* Exio4 |
will be away for 9~10 days |
| 00:52 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: minecraft's survival |
| 00:52 |
Peacock |
or is it because they suck so badly they have to try to destroy everything others build |
| 00:52 |
kaeza |
^ |
| 00:52 |
arsdragonfly |
It has something to do with psycology |
| 00:52 |
[0gb_us] |
Peacock, I play to mine. I hoard ore for fun, but I don't have any building skill. |
| 00:52 |
Exio4 |
ew, i'm not a griefer and i don't like to build nor i can build more than a dirt & stone 2x2 house |
| 00:53 |
kaeza |
Peacock, it's not griefing, it's "modern voxel art" |
| 00:53 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 00:53 |
Exio4 |
lol |
| 00:53 |
Exio4 |
https://xkcd.com/481/ |
| 00:53 |
* Exio4 |
goes away |
| 00:54 |
Peacock |
well, if people suck so badly at building that it frustrates them to the point of wanting to destroy other's work, they should play an FPS or a driving game, or try the calculator lol |
| 00:54 |
arsdragonfly |
Bye |
| 00:54 |
* [0gb_us] |
can't visit URIs right now, but is sure he's seen that one |
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| 00:55 |
kaeza |
Exio4, lol |
| 00:56 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: i repeat, i can't even build a road that looks nice |
| 00:56 |
Exio4 |
and i'm not a griefer |
| 00:56 |
Exio4 |
yet i like "survival" games |
| 00:56 |
Exio4 |
anyway, bbl |
| 00:57 |
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| 00:57 |
Peacock |
thats fine lol my beef is with people who literally destroy shit or lay a shitton of random nodes all over the place |
| 00:58 |
Peacock |
when it gets to the point where you have to let each user protect their own house, its no fun to run a public server |
| 01:04 |
Peacock |
in any case, i removed all the players pants', they have to earn them now XD |
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| 01:07 |
Peacock |
http://s8.postimg.org/ownuzpdyt/screenshot_868279604.png |
| 01:08 |
khonkhortisan |
looks silly with a belt on |
| 01:08 |
Peacock |
the belt buckle was too cool :P |
| 01:08 |
kaeza |
Peacock, give them a pony skin :3 |
| 01:09 |
khonkhortisan |
I added a plugin that lets me see all the channels as one channel, and I'm trying to find a way to talk on one of them from there |
| 01:10 |
khonkhortisan |
you put the apostrophe on the wrong word |
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| 01:21 |
Peacock |
what about the apostrophe? lol |
| 01:23 |
Peacock |
(sorry., was busy defending against facsimiles) |
| 01:24 |
khonkhortisan |
you removed the pants' players |
| 01:24 |
khonkhortisan |
that apostrophe is a plural ownership |
| 01:25 |
Peacock |
meh, im not native english, and judging from the internets, most native english speakers cant get it right either :P |
| 01:26 |
Peacock |
if anything, french is 10x more the pain in the ass with male and female versions for every noun lol |
| 01:26 |
[0gb_us] |
The pants own the players. This is a fact, Peacock. I don't see the issue. |
| 01:30 |
khonkhortisan |
We only really have he/she we can't split |
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| 01:36 |
Pelayo |
the biggest problem I see in english are regular verbs, or the lack of them |
| 01:36 |
Pelayo |
irregularity seems to be the norm |
| 01:39 |
[0gb_us] |
It's dumb to have any male/female-specific words. it only serves to make it difficult when you don't know the sex. |
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| 01:44 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 01:46 |
Pelayo |
wrong: it actually makes it easier to know the sex because the word specifies it always |
| 01:47 |
jojoa1997 |
say is the cactus node just supposed to be only diggable with an axe |
| 01:48 |
Peacock |
pelayo the sex-specific words im talking about aren't referencing people, they're things |
| 01:48 |
khonkhortisan |
I would consider a cactus in a tree group |
| 01:48 |
khonkhortisan |
*to be in |
| 01:48 |
Peacock |
day in french is female, "une journee" not "un journe" |
| 01:48 |
Peacock |
french "le/la" = english "the" |
| 01:48 |
Pelayo |
in spanish it's male, un dia |
| 01:49 |
khonkhortisan |
A Spanish day and a French day walk into a bar... |
| 01:49 |
Pelayo |
there is also jornada, from the same root as journee, and that's female, la jornada |
| 01:49 |
Peacock |
around grade 7 i switched to english schools since i was failing french miserably (though getting 99/100% in maths, they didn't wanna see me go lol) |
| 01:50 |
Peacock |
my father's been bugging me to learn spanish lol |
| 01:50 |
Peacock |
ive always wanted to learn german first |
| 01:50 |
Pelayo |
german looks too hard for me |
| 01:51 |
Peacock |
(i used to work in translations, one of many jobs) |
| 01:51 |
Peacock |
well german like spanish is latin derived, still easier than say, mandarin (one example) |
| 01:51 |
Peacock |
though if you wanna learn a language purely for business reasons, then go with mandarin |
| 01:52 |
Peacock |
they'll be the biggest middle class this century |
| 01:52 |
Pelayo |
learning for business can be problematic |
| 01:52 |
Pelayo |
china might be the biggest economic power for a century.. or for less than a decade |
| 01:52 |
Peacock |
whatever gives people an edge |
| 01:53 |
Pelayo |
economy is based on lots of silly things that can fail at any time |
| 01:53 |
Peacock |
you could learn swahili, but theres not much business going that way, so it wouldn;t help you find a job :P |
| 01:53 |
Peacock |
what like the building boom in the US and the ghost cities in china? yeah shit happens, but the trends remain the same |
| 01:54 |
Pelayo |
unless you were moving near kalahari and work as a hunter... |
| 01:54 |
jojoa1997 |
bbt |
| 01:54 |
Peacock |
i would live in the woods/country if i could somehow earn a living off it :P |
| 01:54 |
Peacock |
cities and people are overrated lol |
| 01:55 |
Pelayo |
I think china has about the same chances or being an economic success and a failure right now |
| 01:55 |
Peacock |
i dont think so |
| 01:55 |
Peacock |
theyre deversifying their economy, their middle class is growing |
| 01:55 |
Peacock |
wages in the west have gone nowhere for nearly 40 years now |
| 01:56 |
Pelayo |
but I think they are right in some things |
| 01:57 |
Peacock |
well i cant exactly agree with any kind of dicatorship, but it seems most parties in the west seem intent on passing the same laws regardless who wins |
| 01:57 |
Pelayo |
yep |
| 01:58 |
Peacock |
so its not like were voting for philosophies so much as were voting for brands |
| 01:58 |
Pelayo |
in spain we had the media trying to pass our transition from dictatorship to democracy as an example for all the world |
| 01:58 |
Peacock |
well Franco was a piece of work i'll give you that :P |
| 01:58 |
Pelayo |
but once you start checking who rules in the parties you see most of them are the same people from the dictatorship |
| 01:59 |
Pelayo |
or their descendants |
| 01:59 |
Pelayo |
so it didn't change that much |
| 01:59 |
Peacock |
well, what do you have in the west? the children of prime ministers and presidents running for the same office, thats almost nepotism too |
| 01:59 |
Pelayo |
and then you have far right and democratic left parties... that actually do the same things |
| 02:00 |
Peacock |
Justin Trudeau will be running as liberal leader for the PM office, his father was PM in the 60's/70s |
| 02:00 |
Peacock |
then you got bush sr and bush jr |
| 02:00 |
Peacock |
whos grandfather prescott bush did business with the nazies lol |
| 02:01 |
Peacock |
political history can be quite depressing :P |
| 02:01 |
Pelayo |
and during the 80's and 90's had business with the Bin Laden family.. |
| 02:01 |
Pelayo |
an interesting trend :P |
| 02:01 |
Peacock |
its not secret the US backed saddam when he was gassing kurds |
| 02:02 |
Pelayo |
yep, and I also read some time ago.. yes, it was true saddam HAD chemical weapons at some point |
| 02:02 |
Peacock |
or all this BS about chem weapons in syria when they used agent orange in vietnam |
| 02:02 |
Pelayo |
legally bought to US pharmaceutical corporations |
| 02:03 |
Peacock |
well, Bayer had a stake in the company that made Zyklon B and theyre still around |
| 02:03 |
Peacock |
IBM made the systems that helped catalogue jews, and theyre still around |
| 02:03 |
Pelayo |
agent orange in vietnam, irradiated bullets in the gulf |
| 02:03 |
Pelayo |
and allowed israel use of phosphorus recently.. |
| 02:03 |
Peacock |
VW was a 3rd reich company |
| 02:03 |
Pelayo |
it doesn't count when it's an ally |
| 02:04 |
Pelayo |
and it's not a secret Hugo Boss himself designed the nazi uniforms and was a proud member of SS |
| 02:04 |
Peacock |
morals are for propaganda :P what really counts is money |
| 02:07 |
Peacock |
if i could i'd avoid the news altogether :P |
| 02:07 |
Pelayo |
mm I think a journalist was recently fired for pointing that in a Hugo Boss sponsored act... |
| 02:08 |
Pelayo |
if you watched spanish politicians you would believe you are in an alternate universe |
| 02:08 |
Peacock |
well ive read alot of shit about gibraltar recently |
| 02:08 |
Peacock |
(spelling could be wrong) |
| 02:09 |
Peacock |
dont know what the media in spain is reporting, but over here, they give the impression the shit over Gibraltar is to distract from Spain's economy |
| 02:09 |
Pelayo |
they pull the gibraltar thing every time they need to distract the attention |
| 02:09 |
Pelayo |
yep, and several corruption cases that are surrounding the top heads of the government's party |
| 02:10 |
Peacock |
oh well, we have our own corruption cases in Quebec lol two mayors of our biggest city resigned in the same year lol |
| 02:11 |
Peacock |
the liberal party is neck deep in it, the nationalist party is in deep with the charter banning religious head-dress, so its a big thing in the media right now |
| 02:12 |
Pelayo |
the former treasurer from the government's party is now in jail because of diverting money from illicit donations to the party to swiss bank accounts |
| 02:12 |
Pelayo |
the funny thing is the party has been protecting him.. to make sure he didn't say anything |
| 02:13 |
Peacock |
well ours were taking kickbacks from public works contracts that we were obviously paying too much for |
| 02:13 |
Pelayo |
now he started talking and they now say... it's silly to listen to a criminal! |
| 02:13 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 02:13 |
Peacock |
covering your own ass is the first rule of politics |
| 02:14 |
Peacock |
if he had kept his mouth shut, they would have paid for his lawyer until the end lol |
| 02:14 |
Pelayo |
this guy is being smart, releasing the information in little bits, waiting until the party says a contradiction and then releasing evidences |
| 02:14 |
Pelayo |
they were paying his lawyer until march I think, and he started talking in june |
| 02:15 |
Peacock |
same here, we have a corruption commission going on, and every other week another mayor somewhere gets arrested, or an MNA (national assembly member) investigated |
| 02:15 |
Pelayo |
the funniest part was last month, when the judge ordered the party to hand the computers he used in his office |
| 02:15 |
Peacock |
they probably trashed it :P |
| 02:15 |
Pelayo |
and they gave.. |
| 02:16 |
Pelayo |
http://img.xataka.com/2013/08/toshiba-libretto-100ct.jpg |
| 02:16 |
Pelayo |
this |
| 02:16 |
Peacock |
good lord lol |
| 02:16 |
Pelayo |
they say he was using that for the party's accounts until he resigned in 2012 |
| 02:16 |
Peacock |
didn't they find something similar in Mesopotamia? |
| 02:16 |
Pelayo |
and of course it had no hard drive at all |
| 02:17 |
Pelayo |
and they even used it to say his evidences are forged because "he gave an usb drive to the judge, and that computer didn't even have usb so he could never have copied that" |
| 02:17 |
Pelayo |
... well.. it had PCMCIA.. if he REALLY used that for that much time, he had a PCMCIA-USB card for sure |
| 02:17 |
Peacock |
hopefully the judge isn't that dumb |
| 02:18 |
Pelayo |
even if it's only for plugging modern mices |
| 02:18 |
Peacock |
though, if the opposition comes into power, they'll clear him of wrongdoing |
| 02:18 |
Peacock |
heck, theyd probably pay him to spill the rest of his guts lol |
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| 02:19 |
Pelayo |
nah, both parties are enemies in public, but help each other in the background |
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| 02:19 |
Peacock |
if they get funded by the same people, then yeah |
| 02:19 |
Pelayo |
in the 80's-half 90's we had a serious case of state terrorism |
| 02:19 |
Peacock |
us it was the 60's 70's with the nationalist movement |
| 02:19 |
Pelayo |
the opposition said that was going to be the grave of the government |
| 02:20 |
Peacock |
they whacked a minster and a diplomat, but that ended with martial law |
| 02:20 |
Pelayo |
all people arrested were freed some months after that party took the power |
| 02:20 |
Peacock |
(under Trudeau Sr) |
| 02:21 |
Peacock |
its even funnier that the english part of the country idolizes our worst prime minister who held back progress for nearly two decades |
| 02:21 |
Peacock |
(you can see why we want to part ways with english canada lol) |
| 02:21 |
Pelayo |
the problem here was.. it was a group of mercenaries contracted by our government to kill ETA terrorists (ETA killed 100s of people every year in the 80's) |
| 02:22 |
Peacock |
ETA... thats Catalonia right? |
| 02:22 |
Pelayo |
but they killed people totally unrelated to ETA |
| 02:22 |
Pelayo |
no, vasque country |
| 02:22 |
Peacock |
Spain's got two seperatist movements? |
| 02:22 |
Pelayo |
yes |
| 02:22 |
Peacock |
you'd think they wouldn't want Gibralatar on top lol |
| 02:23 |
Pelayo |
Catalonia had a small terrorist group too but they never killed that much compared to ETA and dissolved quickly |
| 02:23 |
Peacock |
here the only restless minorities are the ones that were here before the english (the french and natives) |
| 02:23 |
Pelayo |
I think in 200 attacks they killed 5 people |
| 02:23 |
Pelayo |
while ETA killed in total more than 1000 people since the 70's |
| 02:24 |
Peacock |
well that's like the IRA |
| 02:24 |
Pelayo |
ETA is now dissolving too, luckily |
| 02:25 |
Peacock |
civil wars rarely make things better |
| 02:25 |
Pelayo |
they aren't actively doing attacks since 2004 I think (but they killed a french policeman when he caught them stealing a car or something like that in 2009) |
| 02:26 |
Pelayo |
at the beggining they had a lot of popular support, because they started killing people from the military during the last years of the dictatorship |
| 02:26 |
Pelayo |
and the military tortured ETA members when they were arrested |
| 02:26 |
Pelayo |
so when ETA killed a soldier people just said "he probably deserved it" |
| 02:27 |
Peacock |
we havent had any nationalist terrorism in decades, though when we voted in a seperatist prime minister, an english terrorist tried to take her out on inauguration night |
| 02:27 |
Pelayo |
but then they started to kill soldiers and policemen who had just joined and had no time to do anything |
| 02:28 |
Peacock |
even i think Quebec would do much better if the anglo saxons just left (they keep threatening to) |
| 02:29 |
Peacock |
Quebec isn't that different from Northern Ireland in that regard |
| 02:29 |
Pelayo |
I don't really mind about separatist people, they have their reasons and I can understand some of their arguments |
| 02:29 |
Pelayo |
the vasque region has more autonomy than northern ireland today |
| 02:30 |
Peacock |
well, when you have a different way of doing things, why adhere to a federal system you dont agree with and dont want to finance? |
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| 02:30 |
Peacock |
well in Quebec's case, the rest of the country ratified the constitution with us :P |
| 02:31 |
Peacock |
so we dont recognize it |
| 02:31 |
Peacock |
*without us |
| 02:31 |
thexyz |
Exio4: they'll just register another account |
| 02:31 |
thexyz |
and I have no idea why did you tell to ask me |
| 02:32 |
Pelayo |
our constitution is strange.. most parties say it's sacred, but they don't respect it at all |
| 02:33 |
Peacock |
the first time they fucked with the constitution, there was a referendum for sovereignty lol when they tried and failed to fix that, there was another |
| 02:33 |
Peacock |
(third time's a charm) |
| 02:33 |
Pelayo |
and it was signed.. more or less with a gun in the head |
| 02:34 |
Pelayo |
the idea was giving catalonia and the vasque country a special autonomy while being still part of spain |
| 02:34 |
Peacock |
well in Canada there's the notwithstanding clause, which basically means we can say "fuck you" to anything the feds say :P |
| 02:35 |
Pelayo |
but the military were not happy with that, that was "breaking spain appart" |
| 02:35 |
Pelayo |
so they rewrote that in a way provinces could group into "autonomous communities |
| 02:36 |
Pelayo |
so they would be equivalent to what catalonia and the vasque country were being offered |
| 02:36 |
Peacock |
well our military is not strong enough to control the vast stretches of the country lol |
| 02:36 |
Pelayo |
and it doesn't work at all |
| 02:36 |
Peacock |
theyd have to put the entire army into Quebec, which would leave the rest of the country undefended lol |
| 02:37 |
Pelayo |
we have 52 provinces, joined into 17 autonomous communities, all wih their separate competences |
| 02:37 |
Peacock |
and the rest of the country can hardly afford it with their own problems |
| 02:37 |
Peacock |
jesus, thats alot of provinces for a country the size of Spain |
| 02:37 |
Pelayo |
so instead of one health department, we have 18 (17 smaller ones depending on the state one) |
| 02:37 |
Pelayo |
the same goes for education and most things |
| 02:37 |
Peacock |
we have like 12-13 provinces and territory, and we're about the size of Russia |
| 02:38 |
Pelayo |
some of the provinces were historical, others were made up I think |
| 02:38 |
Pelayo |
and the autonomous community system was totally made up |
| 02:38 |
Peacock |
the last change in canada was splitting Northwest Territories into NWT and Nunavut, which still baffles considering the low population count |
| 02:39 |
Pelayo |
the Madrid community hymn is hilarious because it's a description on how it was done |
| 02:39 |
Pelayo |
"the regions become nations, and I'm just here in the middle, all of them dancing around me and I'm alone in the middle" |
| 02:39 |
Peacock |
dont worry, we dont have hymns but we have a shitton of flags :P |
| 02:39 |
Pelayo |
because no autonomous province wanted to have Madrid with them |
| 02:39 |
Pelayo |
and Madrid became one of the uni-province "communities" |
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Whitemau5 |
hello |
| 02:40 |
Pelayo |
(the hymn was comissioned to an anarchist poet :P) |
| 02:40 |
Peacock |
well i like the idea of city-states, though in 2013, it would probably be more city-provinces |
| 02:41 |
Pelayo |
we have tons of flags too, one for each province plus one for each community |
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Peacock |
but does it change often? lol ours changed quite a few times in 300 years |
| 02:42 |
Pelayo |
it changed in 1939 with the dictatorship |
| 02:42 |
Pelayo |
and since then we have the same flag with a different crest |
| 02:43 |
Pelayo |
the older one is nicknamed "the chicken": https://lh3.ggpht.com/-d6bB4zRL8lU/UIvoiMbHM_I/AAAAAAAAFN8/wrjon0ODZ0E/s1600/Bandera+de+Espa%C3%B1a+(1939-1981).PNG |
| 02:43 |
Peacock |
canada had the red ensign (a british relic), then its own flag |
| 02:44 |
Pelayo |
and it's midly illegal, like the nazi one would be in germany, but more relaxed |
| 02:44 |
Peacock |
Quebec had even more, from new france, to england, to several more |
| 02:45 |
Peacock |
the federal gov't have been queen on renaming shit back to "her majesty's..." for the last few years |
| 02:45 |
Peacock |
*keen |
| 02:45 |
Peacock |
Even though in Quebec we couldn't give two shits about the Queen, we got hundreds right here |
| 02:46 |
Pelayo |
our monarchy had a huge support until recently |
| 02:46 |
Pelayo |
lots of scandals lately :P |
| 02:47 |
Pelayo |
even royalist people think the king should resign |
| 02:47 |
Peacock |
well.... welfare queen = official queen, except one's more expensive, though we same to hate the cheaper ones |
| 02:48 |
Pelayo |
but he will not resign until he die probably: right now he has inmunity to any investigation or responsability |
| 02:48 |
Pelayo |
if he resign he would lose that |
| 02:49 |
Pelayo |
it's unclear where his wealth came from, since his pay is public and it's less than 10% of what he would have need since he is a king to have that amount of money |
| 02:50 |
Pelayo |
and he has several suspected children with other women that aren't our queen... who are requesting DNA tests |
| 02:50 |
Peacock |
lol that should be fun for years to come |
| 02:51 |
Pelayo |
yep, and one of them is older than our prince, so he has more rights to the crown |
| 02:52 |
Pelayo |
and if the king resigns, he would be under the same law as all of us.. and the law specifies he can deny giving his DNA, but if he does it repeatedly he can be legally ruled as the father |
| 02:53 |
Peacock |
lol wouldn't be the first ruler to bang a few broads on the side (pardon my language) |
| 02:53 |
Pelayo |
our press has blocked for years all information of his extramatrimonial affairs, but they have been widely known :P |
| 02:53 |
Pelayo |
and our prince seems like following the same trend |
| 02:54 |
Pelayo |
monarchy never changes |
| 02:54 |
Peacock |
cut them off the welfare :P |
| 02:55 |
Peacock |
(like everybody else) |
| 02:55 |
Peacock |
if our politicians can attack people who get as little as 600$/month, surely they can get rid of more expensive monarchs :P |
| 02:56 |
Pelayo |
our king even tried with princess Diana in the 80's |
| 02:58 |
Pelayo |
he had a lot of popular support until he was caught last year being in a safari hunting elephants in Bostwana with a younger woman |
| 02:59 |
Pelayo |
and the press at last started talking about his affairs and how this last woman (a german one) has been doing public relations in his name and in the name of the country.. |
| 03:00 |
Peacock |
lol what do you expect, people with money hookup easily |
| 03:01 |
Peacock |
people expect them to be more faithful then they are, then they find out theyre not as perfect as they thought, and they're outraged |
| 03:01 |
Peacock |
monarchs deserve no more consideration than politicians, though politicians can be voted out |
| 03:02 |
Pelayo |
in our case it's worse than in most monarchies |
| 03:02 |
Pelayo |
Franco was the one who put our king as his sucessor |
| 03:02 |
Pelayo |
so things didn't change that much |
| 03:03 |
Peacock |
well i might be wrong but there was a civil war before Franco came to power? |
| 03:03 |
Pelayo |
yes |
| 03:03 |
Pelayo |
well, it was complicated |
| 03:03 |
Peacock |
well, being western europe im not surprised the other side never had a chance |
| 03:03 |
Pelayo |
we had a republic, but very unstable |
| 03:03 |
Peacock |
shit was very unstable in the 30's and 40's |
| 03:03 |
Peacock |
hasn't gotten much better since |
| 03:03 |
Pelayo |
the military tried to do a coup that failed |
| 03:03 |
Pelayo |
and that fail lead to the civil war |
| 03:04 |
Peacock |
lucky, in south america they succeeded :S |
| 03:04 |
Pelayo |
in the end they succeeded, 3 years later when franco won the war (he was part of the instigators of the coup) |
| 03:05 |
Pelayo |
he had lots of help from fascist italy and nazi germany, who were officially neutral |
| 03:05 |
Pelayo |
but they used our civil war to test their planes and weapons |
| 03:06 |
Peacock |
you could say Kosovo was a test for Iraq |
| 03:06 |
Pelayo |
the republic was stupid and thought the soviet union would help against fascism |
| 03:07 |
Peacock |
and Poland thought England and France had balls, the FLQ though the soviets would help... history lol |
| 03:07 |
Pelayo |
so they spent almost all the country's money in overpriced russian weapons |
| 03:07 |
Peacock |
probably defective too lol |
| 03:08 |
Pelayo |
it's funny since the communists were the most capitalists back then, while the fascists were helping for free (future support) |
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Peacock |
thats when you find out stolen designs aren't really stolen, theyre deffective designs lol |
| 03:09 |
Peacock |
well thats like china being called a "communist" state these days lol |
| 03:10 |
Pelayo |
well north korea isn't a communist state anymore |
| 03:10 |
Pelayo |
or a dictatorship |
| 03:10 |
Pelayo |
kim jong un is now a king :P |
| 03:10 |
Peacock |
most communist states aren't really communist |
| 03:11 |
Peacock |
the people don't own shit so long as you still have bosses |
| 03:11 |
Pelayo |
I think communism is a great concept... but every time they try to implement it, they include a dictatorship... |
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Pelayo |
it's something hard to make it work |
| 03:12 |
Peacock |
star trek style communism is still at least 100 years away |
| 03:13 |
Peacock |
and even there, you need a global gov't you can trust |
| 03:14 |
Pelayo |
it's also interesting how the same word has totally different meanings depending on the country |
| 03:14 |
Peacock |
well thats like left and right, conservative and liberal, from one country to the next its completely different |
| 03:14 |
Pelayo |
for example, I would define myself as republican |
| 03:14 |
Pelayo |
republican in the US means being conservative and favorable to militarism |
| 03:15 |
Pelayo |
in spain it usually means being communist or favorable to communism |
| 03:15 |
Peacock |
im mostly nationalist libertarian :P |
| 03:15 |
Pelayo |
and that's why I don't usually say I'm republican in spain |
| 03:15 |
Pelayo |
for me being republican means I don't want someone with privileges only because of DNA |
| 03:16 |
Pelayo |
and while I think communism is a great idea that might work.. I don't see it working today so I wouldn't try to push that |
| 03:17 |
Pelayo |
capitalism has its problems too, and no one is doing anything to fix them |
| 03:17 |
Peacock |
well in Quebec being nationalist means you dont like the direction the rest of the (english) country is taking |
| 03:17 |
Pelayo |
but I think it would be easier to fix most of them than to implement communism today |
| 03:17 |
Peacock |
well communism if it ever happens, would have to be a gradual thing |
| 03:18 |
Peacock |
otherwise you're putting a shitton of people out of work and that doesn't actually make things better for anyone |
| 03:18 |
Pelayo |
yes, forcing it would be another kind of dictatorship even if the communist government was elected democratically |
| 03:19 |
Pelayo |
and probably would lead to another civil war... |
| 03:19 |
Peacock |
i wouldn't trust politicians to do it thats for sure :P |
| 03:20 |
Pelayo |
I can only trust in some politicians.. that are already retired most of them |
| 03:20 |
Pelayo |
most of our active politicians are people who have never worked out of the party |
| 03:20 |
Pelayo |
even our president |
| 03:21 |
Pelayo |
his only professional activity was being a public notary for two years in the 80's |
| 03:21 |
Peacock |
id trust people who'd actually work to earn a living and had to pay their way lol |
| 03:22 |
Peacock |
otherwise what the fuck do they know about the rest of us? (the majority) |
| 03:23 |
kahrl_ |
our most popular politician during the last few years made his living by inheriting and copied his doctoral thesis >.> |
| 03:24 |
Pelayo |
agreed, that's why most of the politicians I trust are teachers, doctors, etc |
| 03:24 |
Pelayo |
and are a really small number |
| 03:25 |
Peacock |
well for the same reason i dont vote lol |
| 03:26 |
Pelayo |
the only coherent one here has been for years the former president of the communist party, and even some far right people respect him |
| 03:26 |
Pelayo |
but he retired because of health problems since his son was killed in iraq |
| 03:26 |
Pelayo |
(a journalist, not a soldier) |
| 03:27 |
Pelayo |
it was funny when a teacher from Peru came here some years ago, and I had to pick him at the airport |
| 03:28 |
Pelayo |
saw that man and told him "oh, by the way, you came in the same plane as the president of our communist party" |
| 03:28 |
Peacock |
my father's in peru, though i have no idea who he votes for, or if he can vote there |
| 03:28 |
Pelayo |
he was really scared |
| 03:28 |
Pelayo |
looks like they really feared communism back then |
| 03:29 |
Pelayo |
if he has the peruvian nationality he is probably required to vote |
| 03:29 |
Pelayo |
it's mandatory in Peru, with fines if you don't vote |
| 03:29 |
Peacock |
naw, but he married one |
| 03:30 |
Pelayo |
I don't vote, I would like to if this was a real democracy |
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Pelayo |
but I can't consider it a democracy when an inhabitant of barcelona's vote counts about 3x as mine |
| 03:32 |
Pelayo |
when the third party needs 120.000 votes to have a seat while the 1st party only needs 20.000 |
| 03:32 |
Peacock |
well heres its worse, they count it by counties, and counties arent split proportionally, so someone in the country, his vote counts more than in the city |
| 03:34 |
Pelayo |
it's similar here |
| 03:34 |
Peacock |
though in a country with proportional rep. or single transferable votes, you get alot more minority/coalition gov'ts |
| 03:35 |
Pelayo |
we now have a government with absolute majority |
| 03:35 |
Peacock |
here the conservatives are likely to lose it |
| 03:35 |
Pelayo |
so they are doing everything they want without even explaining it in the congress |
| 03:36 |
Peacock |
thats why coalitions and minorities are better :P |
| 03:36 |
Peacock |
if a party can't do shit on it's own, they have to compromise |
| 03:36 |
Pelayo |
I think absolute majorities should be illegal, and force new elections... |
| 03:36 |
Peacock |
people would still vote the same way |
| 03:36 |
Pelayo |
it's always bad when a party can do anything they want with no negotiation |
| 03:37 |
Peacock |
like the nazi party lol |
| 03:37 |
Pelayo |
they promised there were 3 things they would NEVER, EVER touch |
| 03:37 |
Pelayo |
healthcare, education and pensions |
| 03:38 |
Peacock |
yeah well once they win they know they have X number of years to do whatever they want |
| 03:38 |
Pelayo |
pensions was the only thing they didn't touch yet... and they did just yesterday |
| 03:38 |
Peacock |
they do the worse bits in the first year, and hope you'll forget when election time comes around |
| 03:39 |
Pelayo |
they said they would have "savings" in the pension system for about €30.000M until 2019 |
| 03:39 |
Pelayo |
but they didn't explain that was linked to other factors |
| 03:40 |
Pelayo |
and that with our actual numbers, that will be probably more like near €100.000M |
| 03:40 |
Peacock |
TBH, i dont have much sympathy for boomers, they voted lower taxes all their lives but still expect their cut at retirement |
| 03:41 |
Peacock |
we can't afford our own retirements, or our own livings on current wages and prices at what they are |
| 03:41 |
Peacock |
its no wonder people are talking about "compassionate euthanasia" these days |
| 03:42 |
Pelayo |
now they are telling us the welfare state is something totally broken and that could never work |
| 03:43 |
Pelayo |
... it worked perfectly until the month they started rescuing banks |
| 03:43 |
Peacock |
of course its broken, it was instituted with much higher taxes than what they are now |
| 03:43 |
Peacock |
meh, the bailout is seperate from the trends of the last 30 years |
| 03:44 |
Peacock |
the bailouts sunk us deeper, but we were already in this hole |
| 03:45 |
Peacock |
though my country had the advantage of already being too deep 20 years earlier, so they started cutting sooner |
| 03:45 |
Pelayo |
I think here it could be more directly linked to the banking system and the property bubble (that was also more than 50% because of banks) |
| 03:46 |
Peacock |
meh, banks all over the world started lending money they didn't have to people who didn't have the means to pay them back, what did people expect would happen? lol |
| 03:46 |
Pelayo |
they were financing building entire new cities a lot faster than the demand |
| 03:46 |
Pelayo |
now we don't need to build anything else for years and still have tons of unsold houses |
| 03:46 |
Peacock |
that people can't afford lol |
| 03:47 |
Peacock |
you could say rescue efforts kept shit overvalued |
| 03:47 |
Peacock |
if homes were priced according to what people actually earn and can pay, i'd be alot lower still |
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Pelayo |
here government made buildings... I don't know how to translate, it's something like "official protection" |
| 03:49 |
Pelayo |
where the government is the owner and rents it to people with low income at a really low price, with an option to buy it |
| 03:49 |
Pelayo |
even that is being sold to investment firms |
| 03:49 |
Peacock |
thats because selling it at a loss would be even worse for banks :P |
| 03:50 |
Peacock |
gods help us from the next bubble :P |
| 03:50 |
Pelayo |
madrid's government recently sold a package of houses to an investment firm for about €40.000 each on average |
| 03:50 |
Pelayo |
because the market price was around €100-120.000 and there was no demand at that price |
| 03:51 |
Pelayo |
... makes perfect sense... |
| 03:51 |
Pelayo |
better selling them at €40.000 to the ones who actually created this crisis, than making them a little cheaper so people can buy them |
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Peacock |
heck, im looking to buy a house, but ittl have to be a repo :P |
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rogerhc |
Hi, how do I open the "Change keys" menu? I want to replace WASD with arrow keys. |
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Menche |
"Settings tab" -> "Change keys" |
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rogerhc |
Oh, I found the "Change keys" menu by disconnecting |
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khonkhortisan |
yeah, we still have to fix that |
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rogerhc |
Um, I flew up with the jump key. How do I fly, or fall, back down? |
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Menche |
either 'h' or 'shift' |
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rogerhc |
thx |
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Menche |
iirc it's*'e' or 'shift' |
| 05:12 |
Menche |
gaah |
| 05:12 |
Menche |
scratch that, it's either 'e' or 'shift' |
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Menche |
/me doesn't like this irc client |
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* khonkhortisan |
likes his /me |
| 05:14 |
Menche |
this irc client doesn't appear to support the /me command |
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rogerhc |
BTW, I'm having trouble with the "Change keys". My move key changes didn't take effect when I clicked Save and reconnected to my game. |
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rogerhc |
'e' does move me down. Nice. |
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Menche |
also triggers fast move if enabled |
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rogerhc |
I am having trouble setting "jump" back to 'space key' |
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khonkhortisan |
use the config file |
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khonkhortisan |
You may also notice that part of your numpad doesn't work |
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rogerhc |
oh well, I could not set it back to 'space key' but I set it to 'b' key instead. |
| 05:20 |
Menche |
close all instances of minetest and delete the "keymap_jump" line from minetest.conf |
| 05:20 |
Menche |
it should use the default of KEY_SPACE then |
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rogerhc |
on, can I edit the keys in the config file? I should try that. Aha, thanks for that tip. |
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rogerhc |
Night time comes on very suddenly, from daylight to dark in one or two seconds |
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rogerhc |
I don't get any input field when I type '/'. I want to give myself some stuff. 'T' gets me a chat input field. Is that the same thing? |
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rogerhc |
How can I give myself a pick ax? |
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Menche |
you can give yourself a pickaxe by saying "/giveme default:pick_mese" |
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Menche |
or pick_stone or pick_steel or whatever |
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rogerhc |
I tried "/giveme default:pick_mese" in the 'T' input field but got "Server: -!- Invalid command: giveme |
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kahrl_ |
rogerhc: are you on 0.3? |
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rogerhc |
I'm running Minetest-c55 0.3.1 |
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Menche |
hthat command doesn't exist in 0.3.x |
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kahrl_ |
I'd recommend 0.4.7 |
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rogerhc |
oops, I installed Minetest from my Xubuntu distribution's repository |
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rogerhc |
I guess it is old there |
| 05:46 |
Menche |
there's a PPA to install the latest |
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[0gb_us] |
Ha ha, yeah, way outdated then. |
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rogerhc |
PPA? |
| 05:46 |
Menche |
Personal Package Archive |
| 05:46 |
Menche |
it allows you to install it from your package manager like from the repo |
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rogerhc |
I'll go look for it |
| 05:46 |
Menche |
should be on the download page |
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[0gb_us] |
You can use that to put the correct version in the Software Center, or you can just download the correct version. |
| 05:49 |
Menche |
"sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable" should do it |
| 05:49 |
Menche |
then install the "minetestc55" package |
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rogerhc |
Thx, I'll try that sudo command as soon as I can get Synaptic Package Manager to quit. It is stuck open somehow. Grr. |
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rogerhc |
I think I'll "kill" it |
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rogerhc |
I forgot how though. What is the command to list processes that are running? |
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[0gb_us] |
I'm not sure I'd recommend killing a package manager, but "killall synaptic" should do the trick. |
| 06:01 |
Menche |
you list running processes with "ps aux" |
| 06:01 |
Menche |
best piped into "grep" |
| 06:06 |
rogerhc |
Thx |
| 06:07 |
rogerhc |
And now I have wonderful new Minetest 0.4.7 installed and running. |
| 06:07 |
rogerhc |
Me pleased |
| 06:07 |
rogerhc |
But that's all for tonight |
| 06:08 |
rogerhc |
Much thanks to you guys for your help |
| 06:09 |
[0gb_us] |
Glad you got it running! |
| 06:10 |
[0gb_us] |
If you used that PPA, it'll probably automatically update for you as well, though I wouldn't know that for sure. |
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rogerhc |
bye |
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Rhy5 |
Hello! |
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[0gb_us] |
Hello! |
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Rhy5 |
Oh, hey! |
| 07:11 |
Rhy5 |
Just to let you know, I am carrying on my Wool Texture Pack [BETA]. |
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[0gb_us] |
Nice! |
| 07:11 |
Rhy5 |
It's taking abit of time, since I am coding some other mods. :D |
| 07:12 |
Rhy5 |
Bear Grylls Mod, Enchanting, Capes... |
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Rhy5 |
Enchanting will be the first out. |
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[0gb_us] |
That's understandable. Are you supporting them in the texture pack? |
| 07:12 |
Rhy5 |
Also, have to go, quick link: |
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Rhy5 |
Yah, I am. |
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[0gb_us] |
Okay, see you later. |
| 07:13 |
Rhy5 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7170 |
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Rhy5 |
Byes! |
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JamesTait |
Arrr! Avast, me 'earties! 'appy Talk Like a Pirate Day! Arrr! :-D |
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* VanessaE |
looks in. |
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VanessaE |
hi all |
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Calinou |
hi |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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arsdragonfly2 |
Hi |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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GNADev|zRokh |
aye doods |
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* GNADev|zRokh |
hopesthat VanessaE is the first to greet again |
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GNADev|zRokh |
aye dood :D |
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GNADev|zRokh |
hey, can you do me a favour? |
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GNADev|zRokh |
a <strong>small</strong> favour? |
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* arsdragonfly2 |
glares at the last line of topic :P |
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GNADev|zRokh |
i wasnt asking to ask, i was asking... |
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GNADev|zRokh |
:) |
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GNADev|zRokh |
hey, whats that code that has 0's and 1's? |
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GNADev|zRokh |
like this: 00110 011011 01101 |
| 11:15 |
GNADev|zRokh |
oh, its binary code, i thought it was byte code :D |
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GNADev|zRokh |
john_minetest: are you there? |
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deltib |
Why is it that I have 2 free gigs of memory, but linux is trying to swap stuff out, stuff that I'm actually using |
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bolens1112 |
I am new to minetest and I'm trying to use the technic mod and i am continually getting an error: /home/jon/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/config.lua:4: attempt to call global 'Settings' (a nil value) |
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bolens1112 |
can someone point me in the right direction a google search did not get me anywhere |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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arsdragonfly |
Hey PilzAdam |
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arsdragonfly |
bolens1112: are you missing any dependencies? |
| 12:31 |
bolens1112 |
i think i got all of them that he mentioned on his thread |
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bolens1112 |
i will double check |
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bolens1112 |
yah i got all 4 |
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bolens1112 |
BTW im on linux |
| 12:32 |
bolens1112 |
if that makes a difference |
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arsdragonfly |
dependencies have dependencies as well |
| 12:33 |
bolens1112 |
oh |
| 12:33 |
bolens1112 |
good point |
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bolens1112 |
i will look deeper |
| 12:35 |
bolens1112 |
from what i just read they only depend on minetest 0.4.7 |
| 12:36 |
bolens1112 |
actually you know what I think that minetest_game is not installed correctly now that i look at it |
| 12:37 |
bolens1112 |
should mods be under /usr/share/minetest/games/minetest_game/mods or /home/username/.minetest/mods |
| 12:38 |
arsdragonfly |
if you have a system-wide install it's ~/.minetest/mods |
| 12:39 |
bolens1112 |
ok then it should be in the right place and i think i have all the correct dependancies is there a way i can test dependencies? |
| 12:40 |
arsdragonfly |
dunno, maybe the mod versions mismatches each other |
| 12:40 |
bolens1112 |
ok ill look |
| 12:41 |
bolens1112 |
i just get the feeling that something is trying to use a mod before it is loaded |
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bolens1112 |
in this is 13 the line where the error occoured /home/jon/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/init.lua:13: in main chunk |
| 12:43 |
bolens1112 |
and where is debug.txt |
| 12:46 |
arsdragonfly |
in ~/.minetest |
| 12:47 |
bolens1112 |
k thanks |
| 12:49 |
bolens1112 |
I was reading through the thread for technic it would appear that he has created a gamepack for want of a better term that i'm going to try out |
| 12:53 |
PilzAdam |
bolens1112, do you use 0.4.7 stable? |
| 12:54 |
bolens1112 |
im using 0.4.7 |
| 12:54 |
bolens1112 |
it does not say weather it is stable or not |
| 12:54 |
bolens1112 |
*whether |
| 12:54 |
PilzAdam |
where did you got Minetest from? |
| 12:55 |
bolens1112 |
ubuntu repository |
| 12:55 |
PilzAdam |
ummm... they have 0.3.1 in the ubuntu repos |
| 12:55 |
PilzAdam |
do you mean the PPA? |
| 12:56 |
bolens1112 |
no i lied i got a ppa from mintest 55 or some such |
| 12:56 |
bolens1112 |
lemme look |
| 12:56 |
bolens1112 |
add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable |
| 12:56 |
bolens1112 |
thats the ppa |
| 12:56 |
PilzAdam |
ok, then you have the stable 0.4.7 |
| 12:56 |
bolens1112 |
i used |
| 12:57 |
PilzAdam |
it seems like technic doesnt work with 0.4.7 stable |
| 12:57 |
bolens1112 |
o |
| 12:57 |
bolens1112 |
that would explain things |
| 12:57 |
bolens1112 |
what does it work with |
| 12:57 |
PilzAdam |
I just looked in the download that is linked to work with stable, but it uses stuff from the current dev version |
| 12:58 |
bolens1112 |
o |
| 12:58 |
bolens1112 |
someone did not update their text :) |
| 12:58 |
bolens1112 |
can i add the ppa with /dev or what? |
| 12:58 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, seems like your rewrite broke stuff |
| 12:59 |
PilzAdam |
bolens1112, this one is the dev version: ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds |
| 12:59 |
bolens1112 |
k thanks |
| 12:59 |
PilzAdam |
you have to remove and uninstall the other one first |
| 12:59 |
bolens1112 |
i will try it out |
| 12:59 |
bolens1112 |
remove or purge |
| 12:59 |
PilzAdam |
your worlds and settings will be kept in ~/.minetest/ |
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PilzAdam |
I think it doesnt matter |
| 13:00 |
bolens1112 |
k thanks |
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bolens1112 |
will i be installing minetest or minetestc55 |
| 13:03 |
bolens1112 |
for the package |
| 13:04 |
PilzAdam |
minetestc55 |
| 13:04 |
bolens1112 |
thanks |
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PilzAdam |
minetest is the one in the unbut repos, which is very outdated |
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bolens1112 |
yah i thought as much |
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bolens1112 |
i always wonder what kind of act of congress it takes to update some of the packages in the repos :) |
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bolens1112 |
i launched it and it is still showing up as 0.4.7? |
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bolens1112 |
am i missing something |
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PilzAdam |
you have to sacrifice your first-born |
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bolens1112 |
lol |
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bolens1112 |
that will be a few months then yet |
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PilzAdam |
yea, the version string isnt different |
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bolens1112 |
will blood do for now? |
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bolens1112 |
o ok |
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bolens1112 |
i did notice that when it launched some of the info was diffferent in the terminal |
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bolens1112 |
now what do i do from here? |
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PilzAdam |
technic should work now |
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bolens1112 |
nope getting same error :/ hmm the gods of minetest are unhappy |
| 13:09 |
bolens1112 |
im pastebining the error |
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bolens1112 |
http://pastebin.com/h3hVPuWX |
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bolens1112 |
here is what shows up in the terminal |
| 13:11 |
bolens1112 |
when it does not work |
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PilzAdam |
hmmm.. seems like you dont have the dev version |
| 13:11 |
bolens1112 |
hmmm |
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PilzAdam |
uninstall minetestc55, remove all Minetest PPAs, then readd the daily one and install minetestc55 |
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bolens1112 |
will do |
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bolens1112 |
wow noob moment i just looked and no sudo apt-get update after adding the daily build |
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bolens1112 |
duh |
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bolens1112 |
PilzAdam: looks a bit better this time Get:1 http://ppa.launchpad.net/minetestdevs/daily-builds/ubuntu/ :) |
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bolens1112 |
that did it! you sir deserve a cookie |
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bolens1112 |
! |
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bolens1112 |
thanks for taking the time to help me out |
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PilzAdam |
bolens1112, sry, but I have disabled cookies for security reasons ;-) |
| 13:39 |
jin_xi |
redid lsystems in lua: http://i.imgur.com/t0XJJDx.png |
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arsdragonfly |
hurray!!!!! |
| 13:41 |
arsdragonfly |
My AdvancedMarket mod is finally "working" |
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arsdragonfly |
from now on, you can trade stuff from every corner of the server, with no chests involved :P |
| 13:42 |
arsdragonfly |
test server is up on 101.244.134.46 30000 |
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arsdragonfly |
I'll be there to demonstrate all the stuff |
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arsdragonfly |
is anyone out there? |
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arsdragonfly |
In a few hours it'll be midnight here... |
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thexyz |
lol |
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thexyz |
PilzAdam: don't forget to disable html for security reasons |
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arsdragonfly |
thexyz wanna try out my mod? |
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thexyz |
sure |
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thexyz |
doesn't connect |
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arsdragonfly |
uh |
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arsdragonfly |
it says failed to emerge player |
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arsdragonfly |
anyway, I'll leave this server on |
| 14:12 |
arsdragonfly |
I've put some signs at the spawn, you can read them and try it out on your own |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, html doesnt harm my privacy |
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arsdragonfly |
PilzAdam: would you like to test my mod out? |
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arsdragonfly |
101.244.134.46 30000 |
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thexyz |
PilzAdam: no it does |
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PilzAdam |
how so? |
| 14:15 |
thexyz |
http://lucb1e.com/rp/cookielesscookies/ |
| 14:15 |
thexyz |
also |
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thexyz |
stop using PC right now because both your kernel and all compilers you could use to compile a kernel are modified by NSA |
| 14:16 |
thexyz |
but you cannot verify it |
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arsdragonfly2 |
And even the hardware can have backdoors that you don't know at all :P |
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andersje |
john_minetest: one of the original Unix developers talked about a way to modify the C compiler such that it detected if the 'passwd' program was being compiled, and would insert a backdoor into the passwd program at that point |
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andersje |
john_minetest: he elaborated and described how the C compiler could detect if it was compiling itself, and would then insert the passwd-detection-and-hacking code into the C compiler's compiled result. |
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andersje |
the NSA isn't quite that organized, however. |
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andersje |
mainly, they've been cracking cryptography by cheating and convincing people to use bad random numbers. |
| 14:24 |
andersje |
no, the random numbers which all asymmetric cryptography schemes require as a seed |
| 14:24 |
andersje |
NIST has disavowed one (maybe more) of the previously NIST-approved random number generation schemes |
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andersje |
because the numbers produced by those generators don't provide enough randomness |
| 14:25 |
andersje |
dude, the NSA pushed bad random number generators |
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andersje |
so no matter how much you wiggle your mouse... |
| 14:26 |
* andersje |
thinks about what he just said, and decides he may be wrong. |
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andersje |
if you'd like, I can show you the logs of any number of servers which face thousands of brute-force password attacks per day. |
| 14:30 |
andersje |
heh |
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andersje |
thankfully, ssh logs small =) |
| 14:30 |
andersje |
but yeah, the bruteforce password attack is still being used, because it still works |
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andersje |
yeah. |
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andersje |
lemme do a count quick on a box. |
| 14:33 |
andersje |
wow, it's REALLY dropped off. I'm only seeing about a dozen a day on this machine |
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andersje |
if that much. |
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andersje |
and denyhosts is only adding new IPs in 1-3 times a day. |
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andersje |
seems like yesterday I could watch the failed attempts just scroll the logfile. |
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* Evergreen |
throws a bisuit at NekoGloop |
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* NekoGloop |
omnomnom |
| 14:52 |
Evergreen |
Nekogloop is the resident cat of #minetest. :D |
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NekoGloop |
yes |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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* sfan5 |
throws a bisuit at NekoGloop |
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* NekoGloop |
omnomnom! |
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Pelayo |
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* Jordach |
agrees |
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* Jordach |
pokes PilzAdam and sfan5 |
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* sfan5 |
pokes Jordach |
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PilzAdam |
yay! finally |
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* Jordach |
is considering learning german |
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Jordach |
just so we can mumble |
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sfan5 |
I think mumbling is too quiet :P |
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sfan5 |
what about shouting? ;) |
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PilzAdam |
feel free to shout from germany to GB ;-) |
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Jordach |
haha |
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PilzAdam |
so, do we play on Jordach's server or a pub? |
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Jordach |
aos://4038426958:41000 <sham's little pony anyone? |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: coming |
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sfan5 |
shit |
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sfan5 |
booted from wrong kernel |
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sfan5 |
(2nd gpu driver not available |
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sfan5 |
( |
| 15:35 |
sfan5 |
)) |
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sfan5 |
derp |
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Jordach |
lol |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, why did you leave? |
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BlockMen |
hi Jordach |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, i crash if i alt-tab out of openspaeds |
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Jordach |
only happens in fullscreen |
| 15:37 |
Jordach |
back to shams people |
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Jordach |
(please don't hl me) |
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* sfan5 |
is back |
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sfan5 |
I should really get the nvidia driver to work with 3.11 |
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ShadowNinja |
I have a public server running... I was playing with a few other players just a minute ago. |
| 15:47 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5, PilzAdam, Jordach: ^ |
| 15:47 |
ShadowNinja |
It also has a IRC channel. |
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PilzAdam |
wtf? "Disconnected: Unknown reason" |
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PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, address? |
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ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: It is on the list, or my normal IP, 67.241.154.164. |
| 15:49 |
ShadowNinja |
I can't connect either. (Although I had to killall OpenSpades after it locked up) |
| 15:51 |
PilzAdam |
that server lags pretty badly |
| 15:54 |
ShadowNinja |
It keeps thinking I am rapid hacking and kicking me. (Openspades is slightly faster than AoS?) Rapidhacking is of course totally seperate from speedhacking, and speedhacking doesn't actually do any checks... |
| 15:55 |
ShadowNinja |
I patched the code, restarting... |
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Evergreen |
I think my new favorite quote is "Succes is failing 10 times, and getting up 11 times" |
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ShadowNinja |
Nope, still kicking me... |
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jin_xi |
lua lsystems: http://i.imgur.com/t0XJJDx.png |
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Jordach |
my client just crashed PilzAdam |
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Jordach |
it's a bad one: i had to task manager kill it |
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sfan5 |
:/ |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, where do you play now? |
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Jordach |
how did you know i was here |
| 16:57 |
Jordach |
O.O |
| 16:57 |
PilzAdam |
nick list -> |
| 16:57 |
Jordach |
i was just privmsg'd BlockMen |
| 16:57 |
[0gb_us] |
We can see you, Jordach .... |
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Inocudom |
I gave Red Eclipse a try. It is proving to be much better than Cube 2. |
| 17:01 |
Inocudom |
MirceaKitsune might like it too, due to how easy it is to make maps in it. |
| 17:03 |
Inocudom |
I can't stay here for long. A huge and powerful boss battle awaits me outside. It's name is stacking wood on the porch, and I have very specific details I must follow. |
| 17:04 |
[0gb_us] |
That boss sounds slightly familiar ... |
| 17:05 |
Inocudom |
If any of you see or hear of MirceaKitsune, however unlikely that may be, tell him about Red Eclipse. I think his Xonotic ponies would look mighty good there. |
| 17:05 |
Inocudom |
So, you live out in the country too, [0gb_us]? |
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[0gb_us] |
No, but I think I remember stacking wood on the porch when we cut down the holly trees in front of our old house. |
| 17:06 |
Jordach |
DUN DUN DURR |
| 17:06 |
Jordach |
[0gb_us] IS Inocudom |
| 17:06 |
* Jordach |
runs |
| 17:07 |
[0gb_us] |
DRATS! He's on to me! |
| 17:07 |
Inocudom |
We are not the same. |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
Inocudom, im joking |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, what's your server name on OpenSpades |
| 17:07 |
Jordach |
found it: aos://2761617731:32887 |
| 17:07 |
Inocudom |
As I said before, MirceaKitsune's ponies would look very good in Red Eclipse. For him, it should be possible. |
| 17:08 |
Jordach |
^ PilzAdam, sfan5 |
| 17:08 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, "ShadowNinja's server" |
| 17:09 |
Inocudom |
September is the month of work extravaganzas. |
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[0gb_us] |
October is the month of "Creepy Christmas". |
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Jordach |
ShadowNinja, FIX VOTEKICK |
| 17:35 |
Jordach |
also, having access to the admin login would be nice |
| 17:35 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, there is a aimbotter on your server |
| 17:35 |
Jordach |
simply type /login <admin pass> and lifes easy |
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| 17:47 |
* Jordach |
is considering a special blender rencer |
| 17:47 |
Jordach |
render* |
| 17:48 |
Jordach |
the upper altitude isnt ENOUGH. |
| 17:50 |
thexyz |
wow http://www.talklikeapirate.com/ |
| 17:55 |
Jordach |
you wonder where i'm going? 375766 km (kilometers) |
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Evergreen |
Sokomine: Someone just said there is a griefer running around on redcrab's server. can you see what it is Sokomine |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
hi Evergreen :) |
| 18:23 |
Evergreen |
'Ello |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
Calinou, how's openspades |
| 18:26 |
Evergreen |
Gah, I want openspades so badly. i hope I can get it to work soon |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
I got it to work, Evergreen :P |
| 18:26 |
sfan5 |
Evergreen: tell me your problems |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
Jordach: I gtg soon so not today :P |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
I added a application profile to force vsync |
| 18:27 |
Evergreen |
The problem with your binary is that it is missing a library file |
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sfan5 |
my binary? |
| 18:27 |
Jordach |
it's got everything minetest needs: awesome shaders, good performance with said shaders, decent fullscreen, oh, and 60fps all the way |
| 18:27 |
sfan5 |
i don't have a binary.. anyway which library it is missing? |
| 18:27 |
Jordach |
libGLEW.so |
| 18:27 |
Jordach |
it's 32bit |
| 18:28 |
Evergreen |
It says this when I run your binary file: libGLEW.so.1.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
(well, Evergreen and I are) |
| 18:28 |
sfan5 |
Evergreen: 32bit sys? |
| 18:28 |
Evergreen |
Yes |
| 18:29 |
Evergreen |
Part of why I want a new computer. |
| 18:29 |
sfan5 |
sudo apt-get install libglew1 I guess |
| 18:29 |
sfan5 |
wow |
| 18:29 |
sfan5 |
your computer must be ancient if the processor doesn't support 64bit |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
sfan5, it probably does, but is really slow |
| 18:29 |
sfan5 |
cat /proc/cpuinfo > [some pastebin service] please |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
i tried 64bit before on my P4, slow as fuck |
| 18:29 |
Evergreen |
It's a intel centrino duo |
| 18:30 |
Evergreen |
And sfan5, I already have glew installed |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
are you sure? |
| 18:30 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, TDM on nuketown would be good even with only a few players |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
^ that |
| 18:30 |
PilzAdam |
Evergreen, check the version |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
find /usr/lib -name "*glew*" please |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, heh |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
yep |
| 18:30 |
sfan5 |
TDM on nuketown is awesome |
| 18:30 |
Jordach |
12 players is good fwiw |
| 18:31 |
Jordach |
32 = hectic |
| 18:31 |
PilzAdam |
I would like to play on a private server, too many hackers out there |
| 18:31 |
PilzAdam |
s/hacker/script kiddies with aimbots/ |
| 18:31 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, /votekick <Player_name> <reason> |
| 18:31 |
sfan5 |
^ plol |
| 18:31 |
Jordach |
plol |
| 18:32 |
Evergreen |
when I try to apt-get install libgle1 it says it is not available but is reffered to by another package |
| 18:32 |
Evergreen |
*glew |
| 18:32 |
sfan5 |
what does it say _exactly_ |
| 18:32 |
sapier1 |
hello does anyone know a way to search in chat archives for keywords? |
| 18:32 |
Evergreen |
Hold on, let me pastie it |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
sapier1, ctrl+f <string> in web browser |
| 18:32 |
sapier1 |
multiple days |
| 18:33 |
Jordach |
google. |
| 18:33 |
Evergreen |
sfan5: http://pastie.org/8339618 |
| 18:33 |
PilzAdam |
sapier1, site:irc.minetest.ru in any search engine |
| 18:33 |
PilzAdam |
not google, though |
| 18:33 |
sfan5 |
Evergreen: its not available... what distrib? |
| 18:33 |
PilzAdam |
Evergreen, libglew1.8 |
| 18:34 |
sapier1 |
wow didn't expect it to be that simple :-) |
| 18:34 |
Evergreen |
Couldn't find the package |
| 18:34 |
Evergreen |
by regex libglew1.8 |
| 18:34 |
Evergreen |
Ubuntu precise pangolin |
| 18:34 |
sfan5 |
try libglew. |
| 18:34 |
sfan5 |
(with the dot) |
| 18:35 |
Evergreen |
Apparently, I have multiple versions installed |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
uhoh |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
try sudo apt-get update |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
then try for packages |
| 18:35 |
PilzAdam |
try apt-get moo |
| 18:35 |
sapier1 |
john_minetest did you succeed in creating that bear model? :-) |
| 18:36 |
sfan5 |
plol |
| 18:37 |
Evergreen |
I'm removing the conflicting packages, and once that is done, I'll try again |
| 18:37 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, is your server up? |
| 18:37 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, nope.avi |
| 18:38 |
sfan5 |
s/avi/png/ |
| 18:38 |
* Jordach |
wants to spend time with blender |
| 18:38 |
* PilzAdam |
is going to play on aos://1525714239:32887 |
| 18:40 |
Jordach |
feel free |
| 18:40 |
Evergreen |
How do I remove these packages? They keep me from installing 1.8 of glew |
| 18:40 |
thexyz |
> .avi |
| 18:40 |
sfan5 |
sudo apt-get remove <name> |
| 18:40 |
Evergreen |
Tried that, didn't help |
| 18:40 |
thexyz |
you should use MKV, the superior container |
| 18:40 |
Evergreen |
IT removed the packages, but it didn't seem to help |
| 18:41 |
sfan5 |
do it like google, use their own webp standard for images on the GSoC page |
| 18:41 |
Jordach |
hold on, i might find something to help Evergreen |
| 18:41 |
Evergreen |
http://pastie.org/8339641 Are the conflicting packages |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, I MIGHT HAVE FOUND A .so FILE. |
| 18:42 |
sfan5 |
Evergreen: sudo apt-get remove libglew1.5 libglew1.6 libglewmx1.5 libglewmx1.6 |
| 18:42 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: that is very hacky |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
sfan5, beats fucking around with apt-get |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
Subversive Takedown does it |
| 18:42 |
sfan5 |
you could also just dl the .deb of libglew1.8 and extract it to / |
| 18:43 |
thexyz |
lol |
| 18:44 |
Evergreen |
When I started remocing those, it started removing some stuff that shouldn't be removed |
| 18:44 |
sfan5 |
goddmanit |
| 18:44 |
sfan5 |
stop it |
| 18:44 |
Evergreen |
I did |
| 18:44 |
sfan5 |
preciese you said? |
| 18:44 |
Evergreen |
Yes, with unity desktop manager |
| 18:45 |
sfan5 |
nope |
| 18:45 |
sfan5 |
you need to compile for yourself |
| 18:46 |
sfan5 |
can't you just upgrade to quantal or raring? |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
sfan5, is Evergreen using 12.10 |
| 18:46 |
Evergreen |
12.04 |
| 18:46 |
sfan5 |
precise is LTS but you can't expect up to date packages |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
yup, no .so for it |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
(doesnt a future version for 12.10 work backwards?) |
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[0gb_us] |
Compiling on *buntu is painless anyway. Just paste the lines in the readme file one by one into Terminal. |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glew/libglew1.8_1.8.0-1ubuntu2_i386.deb |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
^ try that |
| 18:48 |
sfan5 |
ar x that and extract the data.tar.* |
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thexyz |
lol |
| 18:49 |
thexyz |
nice way to install packages |
| 18:49 |
sfan5 |
I didn't say to extract it to / |
| 18:50 |
sfan5 |
that can break things badly |
| 18:50 |
* Jordach |
wonders if that .deb is broken |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
WinRAR fails to read it |
| 18:50 |
thexyz |
what a user friendly distro |
| 18:50 |
thexyz |
oh stop right here |
| 18:50 |
thexyz |
I'll die from laugher |
| 18:50 |
sfan5 |
plol |
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thexyz |
what's this new trendy word? |
| 18:51 |
thexyz |
I don't see it's being used anywhere outside #minetest though |
| 18:52 |
Jordach |
plol, the thing that we use everywhere |
| 18:52 |
Evergreen |
Sfan5, I applied your patch and it gives me this error: http://pastie.org/8339666 (with libglew1.6) |
| 18:52 |
sfan5 |
plol = physically laughing |
| 18:53 |
sfan5 |
Evergreen: libglew is too old |
| 18:53 |
thexyz |
ooh, so you're forcing it |
| 18:53 |
thexyz |
okay |
| 18:53 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, UPGRADE YER DISTRO |
| 18:53 |
thexyz |
or how should that be called |
| 18:53 |
Evergreen |
Yes, I probably should. |
| 18:53 |
Jordach |
because 12.10 is the next one to have the needed lib for my build |
| 18:54 |
thexyz |
anyway, this seems stupid to me since you're basically s/lol/plol/g |
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[0gb_us] |
Why? 12.10 and 13.04 were buggy for me. Also, they aren't LTS. |
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sfan5 |
damn |
| 19:12 |
sfan5 |
spotify takes a lot of cpu sometimes |
| 19:12 |
sfan5 |
time to use vlc instead :P |
| 19:13 |
Jordach |
VLCN FTW |
| 19:13 |
Jordach |
-N |
| 19:13 |
sfan5 |
ack |
| 19:13 |
sfan5 |
^ |
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sfan5 |
plop |
| 19:14 |
sfan5 |
now I can play OS again |
| 19:15 |
[0gb_us] |
sfan5, you can play operating system? |
| 19:16 |
Evergreen |
OpenSpads |
| 19:16 |
Evergreen |
*OpenSpades |
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[0gb_us] |
Okay, that makes more sense. |
| 19:17 |
[0gb_us] |
What do you do in OpenSpades? |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
shoot people, capture their intel, die a few times, votekick a cheater |
| 19:17 |
Evergreen |
I just had an idea, make a massive storage area underground for a store, and make buttons to call up whatever item you want |
| 19:17 |
Evergreen |
It's an open source version of ace of spades |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
!g ace of spades 0.75 youtube |
| 19:17 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zsZ4bxT73I |
| 19:19 |
[0gb_us] |
Everyone tells me it's a clone, but won't tell me what it is actually like ... |
| 19:19 |
Jordach |
FUN. |
| 19:19 |
[0gb_us] |
I'm just going to ignore it then. I'm tired of asking. |
| 19:21 |
* sfan5 |
meows and throws a kitty biscuit at NekoGloopMkII |
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* NekoGloopMkII |
omnomnom |
| 19:21 |
* sfan5 |
meows another time and throws another kitty biscuit at NekoGloopMkII |
| 19:21 |
* NekoGloopMkII |
omnomn om |
| 19:22 |
* sfan5 |
throws an iKitten 5c at NekoGloopMkII |
| 19:22 |
* NekoGloopMkII |
tosses it in the trash |
| 19:23 |
* sfan5 |
throws an Sumsang Kitten S4 mini at NekoGloopMkII |
| 19:23 |
* NekoGloopMkII |
tosses it in the trash |
| 19:23 |
sfan5 |
:( |
| 19:24 |
* Jordach |
throws more biscuits at NekoGloopMkII |
| 19:24 |
* NekoGloopMkII |
omnomnomnomnomnomnom |
| 19:25 |
* Jordach |
throws the whole box |
| 19:25 |
* sfan5 |
throws an ToasterK with KittenOS and Bluetooth 4.0(also produces biscuits) at NekoGloopMkII |
| 19:26 |
* Evergreen |
shoots NekoGloopMkII with a biscuit gun |
| 19:26 |
sfan5 |
holy shit |
| 19:26 |
Evergreen |
plol |
| 19:26 |
* sfan5 |
activates the biscuit portal that sucks up Evergreen |
| 19:26 |
sfan5 |
this looks nice: https://twitter.com/gabrielh_the_g1/status/380761916177534976 |
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andersje |
openspades is real? |
| 19:49 |
* andersje |
googles |
| 19:49 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: What is wrong with votekick? |
| 19:49 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: Who? |
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BlockMen |
bye everyone |
| 19:50 |
[0gb_us] |
Bye, BlockMen! |
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PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, cant remember |
| 19:56 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: Does fer9864 ring a bell? |
| 19:56 |
PilzAdam |
no, no numbers |
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sapier |
john do you have a non textured static model? |
| 19:56 |
PilzAdam |
something with R... maybe? |
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LAD |
Hia |
| 19:58 |
[0gb_us] |
Hello! |
| 19:58 |
LAD |
Hey 0gb |
| 19:58 |
Calinou |
hi LAD |
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LAD |
Hey calinou |
| 19:59 |
LAD |
** Topic: http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released; 0.4.8 will be released soonâ„¢ | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Task of the Day: Throw kitty biscuits at NekoGloop! | Don't ask about asking questions. |
| 19:59 |
LAD |
Oops |
| 19:59 |
LAD |
How did i copy that???? |
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[0gb_us] |
LAD, select, control + c, control + v. Hittine all those keystrokes without meaning to is an easy mistake. |
| 20:01 |
LAD |
No im on my phone |
| 20:02 |
LAD |
Must have held my finger on it for to long |
| 20:02 |
Jordach |
[AOS]Project was one ShadowNinja |
| 20:02 |
* [0gb_us] |
's phone has fingers too |
| 20:02 |
LAD |
Ummmm |
| 20:02 |
LAD |
Ok?? |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
TomikaHUN was the other |
| 20:03 |
LAD |
Hoi jordach |
| 20:03 |
Jordach |
fun fact: OpenSpades creates console logs in your user dir |
| 20:04 |
LAD |
Realy? |
| 20:04 |
* Calinou |
will probably try out openspades on public servers tomorrow |
| 20:04 |
LAD |
Lol |
| 20:04 |
LAD |
Hnmmmm |
| 20:04 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: I have IRC logs of the server. |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, channel |
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Calinou |
I ran it for a few minutes, it ran very fast, and there's no way to enable vsync "normally" :( |
| 20:05 |
Calinou |
or limit FPS |
| 20:05 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: #OpenSpades InchraNet |
| 20:05 |
ShadowNinja |
I will try to get and ban their IPs. |
| 20:06 |
LAD |
Who any new griefers??? |
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Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/sbaiIjK.png <- PilzAdam, ShadowNinja |
| 20:08 |
ShadowNinja |
[AOS]Project == 87.229.82.7. I have no join or part logs for the other. (I am working on upgrading the server to 0.76, hopefully that has a few fixes) |
| 20:08 |
Calinou |
there are griefers on OpenSpades too? O_o |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
Calinou, regular client (voxlap) works with openspades |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
openspades is a client, same for the voxlap one |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
pysnip is the server |
| 20:09 |
Jordach |
thankfully decoding griefers / scripters is way easier |
| 20:09 |
Jordach |
open logs, notify admin, enjoy your new ban |
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* [0gb_us] |
thinks Minetest needs its own Freenode cloaks |
| 20:11 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: IP/network 87.229.82.7 permabanned: AIMBoting |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
they disallow group registration now |
| 20:12 |
[0gb_us] |
They do? Why is that? |
| 20:12 |
Calinou |
don't know |
| 20:12 |
ShadowNinja |
[0gb_us]: It got very backloged. |
| 20:12 |
Jordach |
freenode != free |
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* OldCoder |
obeys the topic and tosses a kitty biscuit at NekoGloopMkII |
| 20:12 |
* NekoGloopMkII |
omnomnom |
| 20:12 |
ShadowNinja |
[0gb_us]: We are waiting for GMS now... Ask erry about progress on that. |
| 20:13 |
[0gb_us] |
I see. So it may be opened again, but way into the future when the back log is clear. |
| 20:13 |
Calinou |
GMS? |
| 20:14 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: Group Management System, a perl module for atheme. |
| 20:14 |
Calinou |
oh |
| 20:15 |
ShadowNinja |
Jordach: Joining the channel? |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
that is the THIRD server i HAVE TO CONNECT TO? |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
fuck it. im down. |
| 20:17 |
ShadowNinja |
? You have been there before. And I have six networks. |
| 20:18 |
Jordach |
ShadowNinja, quassel slowly takes longer to connect at startup |
| 20:18 |
ShadowNinja |
Ah, I keep my core running constantly, so that isn't a issue for me. |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
bb2m (be back tomorrow) |
| 20:45 |
ShadowNinja |
PilzAdam: PM me a plaintext password and I can give you some privs. |
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sfan5 |
good night everyone |
| 21:26 |
sapier |
can you upload it somewhere john_minetest? |
| 21:29 |
kaeza |
http://www.waitbutwhy.com/2013/08/putting-time-in-perspective.html |
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Octupus |
hi |
| 21:38 |
kaeza |
Octupus, o/ |
| 21:38 |
Octupus |
hi kaeza |
| 21:39 |
sapier |
thanks I think I can work with this |
| 21:42 |
Octupus |
cool :D |
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oxenfreedan |
Hello everyone on the IRC :) |
| 21:45 |
[0gb_us] |
Hello, oxenfreedan! |
| 21:45 |
oxenfreedan |
:D |
| 21:46 |
oxenfreedan |
Is PilzAdam on? |
| 21:47 |
kaeza |
hi oxen |
| 21:48 |
oxenfreedan |
hi |
| 21:48 |
oxenfreedan |
haven't heard anything from you in awhile |
| 21:48 |
kaeza |
me? |
| 21:48 |
oxenfreedan |
yop |
| 21:49 |
kaeza |
been off the tube network for a while :I |
| 21:49 |
oxenfreedan |
lol |
| 21:49 |
Octupus |
Kaeza,mind if i come play in your server |
| 21:49 |
oxenfreedan |
i came on to ask PilzAdam a question but he doesn't appear to be looking at the screen XD |
| 21:50 |
kaeza |
Octupus, of course not :) |
| 21:50 |
Octupus |
:D |
| 21:50 |
kaeza |
Octupus, BTW, it's connected to IRC |
| 21:50 |
kaeza |
channel is ##mt-irc-mod |
| 21:50 |
Octupus |
oooooh |
| 21:50 |
oxenfreedan |
If Adam is watching i know how to get his attention >:) |
| 21:51 |
oxenfreedan |
Java |
| 21:51 |
kaeza |
oxenfreedan, say you prefer nodeboxes; that pisses him off :P |
| 21:52 |
oxenfreedan |
Saying java gets him talking usually |
| 21:52 |
oxenfreedan |
except then he wont stop talking java :P |
| 21:55 |
oxenfreedan |
who here uses windows 7 or a linux distrobution? |
| 21:56 |
kaeza |
I use DOS 5.0 |
| 21:56 |
oxenfreedan |
what dos 5.0? |
| 21:56 |
oxenfreedan |
whats* |
| 21:56 |
kaeza |
._. |
| 21:56 |
oxenfreedan |
linux? |
| 21:56 |
kaeza |
kids these days :P |
| 21:57 |
oxenfreedan |
Are you literally using that old of an os? |
| 21:57 |
oxenfreedan |
DOS was before 3.1 XD |
| 21:57 |
oxenfreedan |
nice |
| 21:58 |
oxenfreedan |
what linux do you use? |
| 21:58 |
[0gb_us] |
Windows is locked down, man. If you want the freedom to delete stuff, use a good GNU/Linux-libre distribution. |
| 21:58 |
oxenfreedan |
i tried it couldn't figure it out XD |
| 21:58 |
* kaeza |
uses Ubuntu 12.04 (yes) |
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| 22:08 |
PilzAdam |
my latest build is outdated, though |
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oxenfreedan |
gtg |
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PilzAdam |
john_minetest, by definition, only viruses are admin on win |
| 22:19 |
proller |
and install ubuntu |
| 22:19 |
PilzAdam |
but not unity |
| 22:20 |
PilzAdam |
after 5 minutes youll notice it |
| 22:20 |
PilzAdam |
no bluescreens anymore |
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Peacock |
assuming you have drivers for everything from graphics to sound to printers and scanners :P |
| 22:22 |
[0gb_us] |
So no Linux-libre then, if you want drivers for everything. |
| 22:22 |
[0gb_us] |
Ha ha, that could work. |
| 22:22 |
Peacock |
i had a helluva time getting my linux laptop to recognize the 10 year old printers at my old ups shop |
| 22:23 |
VanessaE |
hi all |
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[0gb_us] |
Hello! |
| 22:24 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Hey 0gb |
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[0gb_us] |
YAY! I straitened the shift key. |
| 22:24 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hey LazyJ |
| 22:24 |
[0gb_us] |
Took a while though. |
| 22:24 |
thefamilygrog66 |
was it bent? |
| 22:25 |
[0gb_us] |
It was jammed, and I accidentally snapped it off while trying to unjam it. I managed to get it back on, but it was on crooked. |
| 22:26 |
thefamilygrog66 |
ahh, mac keyboard too eh? |
| 22:26 |
LazyJ |
Howdy, Grog! |
| 22:26 |
[0gb_us] |
No, a built-in laptop keyboard. |
| 22:27 |
thefamilygrog66 |
oh yes, I've fixed a few of those - annoying little plastic bits underneath |
| 22:27 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah. Plastic bits and cat hair. |
| 22:27 |
thefamilygrog66 |
what's happening Khaaaaaaaaaaaan? |
| 22:27 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
oh the usual, exacting revenge, creating planets, you? |
| 22:28 |
thefamilygrog66 |
you know, swearing at linux, same old |
| 22:28 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i do that alot too, thats why im glad i know french swear words, more variety |
| 22:28 |
thefamilygrog66 |
calisse sacrament! |
| 22:28 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
otherwise i end up sounding like the guy from Lord of War "you fucking fuck!" lol |
| 22:29 |
thefamilygrog66 |
haha |
| 22:29 |
thefamilygrog66 |
tabernac |
| 22:29 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
and french combo swearing: crisse de calisse de tabarnacle osti |
| 22:30 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that luajit dev thing didn't fix my issue, osti tabernacle |
| 22:30 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i've seen their page, they dont update shit often |
| 22:31 |
thefamilygrog66 |
ironic that my mod works with the windows release of minetest but not the you know, linux one |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
weird, they both on luajit? |
| 22:32 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I don't know - kinda suspect that the windows one uses lua 5.2, but that's just a hunch |
| 22:32 |
PilzAdam |
the official 0.4.7 build? |
| 22:32 |
thefamilygrog66 |
when I compiled mt last night, it definitely used the luajit |
| 22:32 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well lua's bundled so it should use 5.1 for both |
| 22:32 |
thefamilygrog66 |
yes, PilzAdam |
| 22:32 |
thefamilygrog66 |
makes no sense |
| 22:33 |
PilzAdam |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, LuaJIT is not |
| 22:33 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
linux promises to be free, never said anything about making sense :P |
| 22:34 |
PilzAdam |
thefamilygrog66, print(_VERSION) |
| 22:34 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i know jit isn't, but he compiled with jit yesterday |
| 22:35 |
arsdragonfly2 |
Good morning folks |
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| 22:35 |
VanessaE |
jit is 5.1 with a small collection of things from 5.2 (bitwise libs and the like). |
| 22:36 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, there are different versions of JIT.... |
| 22:36 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
he needs the goto statement |
| 22:36 |
VanessaE |
huh. |
| 22:37 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
ffs lol just bundle the same jit version for everyone, problem solved lol |
| 22:37 |
thefamilygrog66 |
PilzAdam, stupid question but where exactly would I put that print command - just in a mod somewhere? |
| 22:37 |
PilzAdam |
thefamilygrog66, yes |
| 22:37 |
VanessaE |
I pull luajit from their repository, guess that's why I never noticed a versioning issue. |
| 22:38 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well if you rely on a system-wide install of jit, people are gonna end up with different versions and mods that work on one but not the other : |
| 22:40 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
in any case maybe the simplest solution would be to replace the goto part with something that works across all luas/jits |
| 22:40 |
thefamilygrog66 |
simple for you, buddy |
| 22:40 |
thefamilygrog66 |
haha |
| 22:42 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
just quickly glancing at your code, seems like a recursive function to me |
| 22:44 |
thefamilygrog66 |
feeling ambitious? |
| 22:44 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
or a double loop :/ |
| 22:45 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well right now im just looking at the code trying to figure how else it could be done |
| 22:46 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I did that for a bit this morning, and got annoyed with it |
| 22:46 |
thefamilygrog66 |
stupid '80s programming |
| 22:47 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
j,m,b they represent what? x,z or? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
j is the "direction" numbered 1 - 4 |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
would be kinda tricky using loops alone since there are 2x goto gen1 |
| 22:53 |
arsdragonfly2 |
Anyone who wants to test my mod? |
| 22:53 |
arsdragonfly2 |
remote trading |
| 22:54 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that's what I was thinking, Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan |
| 22:54 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it's a pretty clever algorithm |
| 22:54 |
arsdragonfly |
!up 101.244.134.46 30000 |
| 22:54 |
MinetestBot |
101.244.134.46:30000 is up (484ms) |
| 22:56 |
arsdragonfly |
uh, another guy timed out |
| 22:56 |
arsdragonfly |
maybe i should consider changing my isp |
| 22:56 |
arsdragonfly |
it keeps saying "failed to emerge player" |
| 22:58 |
thefamilygrog66 |
PilzAdam: Lua 5.1 |
| 22:58 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
what about something like this? (it probably isn't 100%) http://pastebin.com/d279AG5D |
| 22:59 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
ars nothing to do with ISP |
| 23:00 |
arsdragonfly |
then what's it about? |
| 23:00 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that looks like it just might work, Khaaaaaaaaan |
| 23:00 |
arsdragonfly |
should I use latest git instead? |
| 23:00 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I didn't realize you could refer to other functions from within functions |
| 23:01 |
thefamilygrog66 |
essentially goto statements |
| 23:01 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
youd need to call gen1 the first time, and it might need some tweaking |
| 23:01 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
ars its got something to do with how minetest allocates player ids |
| 23:02 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
essentially you have to wait for them to timeout before being able to connect |
| 23:03 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
gen2 may or may not need return statements after each gen1/gen2 call (in case it doesn't work) |
| 23:03 |
arsdragonfly |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan: would you like to try out my mod? |
| 23:03 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i cant really connect to anyone right now, dl'ing movie :/ |
| 23:03 |
thefamilygrog66 |
which one? |
| 23:03 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
Disconnect |
| 23:04 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
oh and i saw world war z, wtf was that? lol |
| 23:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
was it any good at all? |
| 23:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
lotsa cgi zombies |
| 23:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I prefer practical effects |
| 23:05 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
plus im working on proper land ownership/protection for my server (where people can buy their own plots and i dont have to touch protection) |
| 23:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
when it comes to horror flicks |
| 23:05 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well you can tell WWZ had the ending redone, it didn't fit with the rest |
| 23:06 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
the whole world goes to hell, but Wales is fine? lol |
| 23:06 |
thefamilygrog66 |
of course |
| 23:06 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
its not like there aren't millions of people in the UK |
| 23:06 |
thefamilygrog66 |
what's gonna happen to Walter White this Sunday? |
| 23:06 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i think he's gonna kick some neonazi ass |
| 23:07 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I think you might be right |
| 23:07 |
arsdragonfly |
https://github.com/arsdragonfly/advanced_market |
| 23:07 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
remember the flash forward where he gets the cyanide and has a submachinegun in his trunk? |
| 23:07 |
arsdragonfly |
dependencies are money and locked_signs |
| 23:07 |
thefamilygrog66 |
yeah, but that looks like it's in the future sometime |
| 23:07 |
thefamilygrog66 |
house is a skatepark, etc. |
| 23:08 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
and the preview mentioned something about going after walt's family, dunno if theyre talking cops or nazis, but i think it's the nazis, he still owes them a cook |
| 23:08 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
and he's seen to much tbh |
| 23:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
even though they took 6 of his barrels |
| 23:08 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
*too |
| 23:08 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
yeah but the DEA wont just forget about their two agents |
| 23:08 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
shit will heat up |
| 23:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
and Jesse the slave cook |
| 23:09 |
kaeza |
How do I set a world to use LevelDB? |
| 23:09 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
the fact that walt owned up to it on the phone in front of the cops, theyve gone from missing to deceased |
| 23:09 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
yeah i was kinda hoping Jesse would die |
| 23:09 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
he's been all over the place and in the end, a rat |
| 23:09 |
thefamilygrog66 |
2 more episodes, is it? |
| 23:10 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
2 x 75 minute episodes :-) |
| 23:10 |
thefamilygrog66 |
ah, craziness |
| 23:10 |
thefamilygrog66 |
hope it doesn't end with them all meeting up in a church, going through the doors into the light |
| 23:10 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
back to back it's a movie lol |
| 23:11 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
will kinda miss breaking bad |
| 23:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
yeah, well written |
| 23:11 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
walking dead has been more like talking dead for 2 seasons |
| 23:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I wanted to punch the series finale of Lost in the throat |
| 23:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I've never gotten into Walking Dead, believe it ornot |
| 23:11 |
thefamilygrog66 |
*or not |
| 23:11 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well lost is written by the same people who did the two treks, great action movies but made little sense |
| 23:12 |
thefamilygrog66 |
in the end, characters trumped storyline(s) |
| 23:12 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i liked walking dead's first season, but i have a feeling they had a much tighter budget after that, since they got stuck on a farm and then a prison |
| 23:13 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
3rd season was the worst, took forever for anything to happen and when it did you regretted it lol |
| 23:13 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I might check it out on netflix |
| 23:13 |
* harrison |
gulps Potion of Durability |
| 23:14 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
waiting on SVU and Revolution to start up again |
| 23:14 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
Boardwalk Empire had two good episodes so far as well |
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thefamilygrog66 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, how do I go about calling functions? |
| 23:18 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well where the old code was defined (but right after the functions are) add gen1(j,m,b) |
| 23:18 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
make sure maze is global or to pass it as a param |
| 23:18 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I was just going to type that, thanks |
| 23:19 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
(like i said, could be kinks in what i wrote, just a proof a concept) :P |
| 23:19 |
thefamilygrog66 |
well, considering the mess of a BASIC program I was working with, I'm just surprised the thing worked at all! |
| 23:19 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
or as Chretien would have said... A proof is a proof. What kind of a proof? It's a proof. A proof is a proof. And when you have a good proof, it's because it's proven. |
| 23:22 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
oh fabulous, i just one another free cruise, must be my 11th or 12th this week |
| 23:22 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
*won |
| 23:25 |
thefamilygrog66 |
don't answer your phone if it's an unknown US number, haha |
| 23:26 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
no wonder they're deep in the red - keep giving away cruises lol |
| 23:27 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
with my luck thought it would probably be the Costa Concordia |
| 23:28 |
thefamilygrog66 |
crap, tree monster |
| 23:28 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
tree monster? |
| 23:28 |
thefamilygrog66 |
on my server, just got me |
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arsdragonfly |
!up 101.244.134.46 30000 |
| 23:46 |
MinetestBot |
101.244.134.46:30000 is up (579ms) |
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[0gb_us] |
!up up |
| 23:56 |
MinetestBot |
[0gb_us]: Invalid Address |
| 23:56 |
[0gb_us] |
!up up.up |
| 23:56 |
MinetestBot |
up.up:30000 seems to be down |
| 23:57 |
arsdragonfly |
[0gb_us]: wanna try out my new mod on that server? |
| 23:58 |
[0gb_us] |
Hmm. I don't have Minetest installed yet, I just got my system back up. I'll install the PPA, then try to connect. What address, arsdragonfly? |
| 23:58 |
arsdragonfly |
!up 101.244.134.46 30000 |
| 23:58 |
MinetestBot |
101.244.134.46:30000 is up (577ms) |
| 23:58 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, sorry, misunderstood. |
| 23:58 |
[0gb_us] |
What server? up.up? |
| 23:59 |
arsdragonfly |
101.244.134.46:30000 |
| 23:59 |
arsdragonfly |
this one |
| 23:59 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Herobrine spawns inside players' homes. Evil. |
