Time Nick Message 00:00 hmmmmm things are more predictable for the map generator 00:00 hmmmmm there are no lighting errors 00:00 Mossmanikin Walking 62 km... that's a lot of exploring 00:00 hmmmmm etc. 00:00 Tiktalik minecraft's managed to get lighting errors down though, in SP at least 00:00 Menche someone estimated the filesize of a fully generated map; i forget exactly but i think it was several TB 00:00 Tiktalik hardly any at all! 00:00 Peacock well the mapgen doesn't really do much at y > ~100 00:01 Tiktalik menche, that's just lousy compression... 00:01 Tiktalik :( 00:01 [0gb_us] Lousy is better than lossy. just saying. 00:01 Menche i've seen lots of lighting errors in MC, worse than in MT 00:01 Tiktalik or maybe not 00:02 Tiktalik [0gb_us]: MC's compression isn't lossy. >_> 00:02 Menche areas underneath overhangs pitch black 00:02 Tiktalik that was a long time ago 00:02 [0gb_us] I didn't say it was. I was saying we could have worse. 00:02 Peacock so lighting and shadow are bad in both games? :( 00:02 * Menche wonders what the filesize difference is between sqlite3 and leveldb 00:03 Tiktalik but anyway Menche, 16200 by 32400 blocks for a big minecraft map, and it's uh, only around 10 gb 00:03 Smelly Vazon 00:03 Smelly whats your name 00:03 Vazon yes 00:03 Smelly on rem 00:03 Tiktalik smaller actually 00:03 Vazon vazon 00:03 Menche afk 00:03 Smelly now I just add you 00:03 Smelly and you can join 00:03 Vazon let me get on 00:03 Peacock big maps are fun cuz you can have several completely different areas without em leaning against eachother (tighly placed) 00:04 Tiktalik but eh, 62000 is bigger than I thought 00:04 Tiktalik still though, 100000 would be better. 00:04 Smelly Now you can just join the server? 00:05 Smelly since I have you added 00:05 Menche on my little singleplayer world, map.db (leveldb) is 4.0K and map.sqlite is 39M 00:05 Mossmanikin More space also means a bigger chance to get lost 00:05 Vazon yes 00:05 Smelly try now then 00:05 Vazon but first you have to start the server 00:05 Smelly I did 00:05 Vazon o yea 00:05 Smelly i have you added, try to join 00:06 Tiktalik Mossmanikin: being able to get lost is good 00:06 Tiktalik Menche: what's leveldb? 00:06 Menche a new map saving backend 00:06 Menche the latest -git version can save either in leveldb or sqlite3 00:07 Menche supposed to be more stable for larger worlds 00:07 Menche (leveldb that is) 00:07 Mossmanikin Tiktalik: Yes it is. But don't worry: you are able. ;) 00:16 * Tiktalik goes to finally download minetest 00:16 Tiktalik So how is combat going to compare to that... other thing, where it boils down to jumping at enemies while left-clicking? 00:18 Peacock combat kinda sucks 00:18 Peacock better of fighting mobs cuz half the punches on a player dont register 00:25 Tiktalik hmmm 00:25 Tiktalik minetest could use a little smoothing out in places, but I like it 00:26 [0gb_us] Yeah, well, the game is far from complete yet. It's bound to be missing a few things. 00:27 Mossmanikin Smoother terrain like less blocky? 00:37 Peacock cant really get smoother terrain without sloped faces 00:39 Peacock i do wish the BR's would give up trying to come on my server - apparently theyre banned outright on a number of online games 00:39 Tiktalik no Mossmanikin 00:39 Peacock (discussed it with someone who plays WoW and LoL) 00:39 Tiktalik Peacock: BR's? 00:39 Peacock BRazilians 00:40 Peacock though BR is more slang for the troll segment of their internet population 00:40 Tiktalik ah 00:40 Tiktalik anyway, the grass is kinda bad 00:40 Tiktalik so are the item textures and gui 00:41 Tiktalik and the physics...don't really feel like walking? 00:41 Peacock minetest is not about realism (tm) :P 00:41 Tiktalik it feels more like riding on something 00:41 Tiktalik Peacock: 16x isn't bad :P 00:41 Mossmanikin I'd love to have the ability to draw terrain like liquids with exact collision... 00:42 Peacock mossmanikin im trying to figure how to draw nodeboxes by their verticles instead of edges 00:42 Peacock *vertices 00:42 Peacock why do i keep making that mistake? lol 00:43 Mossmanikin Very interesting indeed 00:43 Peacock though the MT code is absolute maze of files spun like a web lol 00:44 Peacock if there was a half decent IDE for linux i might be able to make sense of it 00:45 Mossmanikin Peacock: I'm quite sure it's possible to draw nodeboxes by their verticles, but have no idea what has to be hardcode.... 00:46 Peacock well with vertices you could have slopes/triangles as well as cubical/rectangular 00:47 Peacock the irregular shapes mod how it does it right now is to define anywhere between 16 and 32 individual nodeboxes to give the illusion of a slope 00:47 Peacock i cant imagine drawing so many faces is simpler or easier on the engine than defining 6 vertices for the same effect 00:48 Mossmanikin Yeah, like it (irregular), but isn't what I want, seems like a bad compromise 00:50 Peacock maps like these? http://maniagaming.net/img/blockscape1.png 00:53 Tiktalik Peacock: nodes boxes can be any distance/shape? 00:53 Tiktalik erm, not distance 00:53 Tiktalik and not shape 00:53 Tiktalik size 00:53 Tiktalik and place 00:53 Peacock any size, but they have to be cublice 00:53 Peacock *cubicle 00:54 Peacock the 6 points define where each face ends 00:54 Mossmanikin Comes close, but still not smooth enough. I mean something like https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/sck919u01ror00d/dunes.png , but with exact collision 00:55 Peacock well those are slopes, theyre the slopes from the liquid drawtype 00:55 Tiktalik oooh 00:55 Tiktalik I love the lighting 00:55 Tiktalik the brights are brights 00:55 Tiktalik but the darks...are daaark 00:55 Peacock tried that out myself on grass, but the collision thing was a dealbreaker 00:55 Tiktalik hey guys, I just had a good idea 00:55 Tiktalik what if you made what's currently cobblestone, into rough stone 00:55 Mossmanikin Yeah, collision is the problem 00:56 Tiktalik and had rough stone and smoothed stone 00:56 Tiktalik done with a chisel or something idk 00:59 Mossmanikin Always found it a bit weird one has to "cook" cobblestone to get stone 01:01 Tiktalik Mossmanikin: cobblestone isn't even close to what blockgames call it! 01:02 Tiktalik rather, have it be 01:14 Tiktalik Mossmanikin: it's a type of stone used for roads :( 01:16 Mossmanikin Tiktalik: Yes, don't really make sense you get "big gravel" by digging rock... 01:20 Tiktalik Mossmanikin: what if you got rough-hewn stone by digging rock, and you could get cobblestones near rivers, dig them with a shovel 01:21 jojoa1997 Hi 01:22 Mossmanikin Tiktalik: Guess would be more realistic. 'fraid it wouldn't be Minecraft-like enough. But nice idea for a mod in case it's nothing for the default game :) 01:23 Mossmanikin Hi jojoa1997 01:23 jojoa1997 anyone know what color minecraft lether armor is set to? 01:23 jojoa1997 like the #ff00fff thingy 01:24 Tiktalik Mossmanikin: It'd be functionally the same, and gravel could become cobblestone-y 01:26 jojoa1997 Mossmanikin what you doing? 01:27 Mossmanikin Tiktalik: I think your ideas are good, in case you'd like to mod make a mod out of it, otherwise post here: Tiktalik 01:28 Mossmanikin jojoa1997: right now: thinking and chatting 01:29 Mossmanikin sorry Tiktalik, meant post here: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102672#p102672 01:29 [0gb_us] jojoa1997, send me a picture and I'll get the color number for you, but I've never seen it. 01:31 Tiktalik mossmanikin, are you copy/pasting my name? xD 01:31 Tiktalik anyway, does minetest accept texture donations? 01:32 Mossmanikin Tiktalik: Exactly! Copy/paste mistake :D 01:32 Tiktalik Mossmanikin: Type Tik then press the tab key on your keyboard 01:32 Tiktalik Magic. 01:33 jojoa1997 0gb_us i will see if i can 01:33 [0gb_us] Can what, jojoa1997? 01:33 jojoa1997 can send you it 01:33 jojoa1997 jojoa1997: right now: thinking and chatting 01:34 Mossmanikin Tiktalik: Yes, minetest accepts texture donations 01:34 jojoa1997 i was talkingabout this Tiktalik: I think your ideas are good, in case you'd like to mod make a mod out of it, otherwise post here: Tiktalik 01:34 Tiktalik Where does it keep the texture files 01:34 [0gb_us] Oh, sorry. I got way sidetracked and lost track of the conversation. 01:34 Mossmanikin Yes, I'm more chatting than thinking, like always ;D 01:36 Tiktalik Mossmanikin: Where are minetest's textures kept? 01:36 jojoa1997 brb 01:39 Mossmanikin Tiktalik: minetest (the game) has textures in .../games/minetest_game/mods and then in the different mod folders in .../textures 01:43 thefamilygrog66 There are a bunch of stray kittens outside - should I attempt to catch some to throw at Calinou? 01:44 [0gb_us] No, that's a waste of kittens. Pass them to me, I'm hungry. 01:44 thefamilygrog66 mmm tasty 01:55 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMI5YaInHdU She's so cute~ 02:10 PilzAdam bye 02:14 thefamilygrog66 I don't get it, NekoGloop 02:15 Mossmanikin bye, later 02:33 xiong Caution: If you take in a stray kitten, it turns into a cat... who is less cute and expects royal care. 02:33 [0gb_us] Actually, I prefer cats over kittens anyway. 02:34 [0gb_us] Kittens are destructive and have a lot of energy. 02:34 [0gb_us] Adult cats are more calm. 02:34 [0gb_us] And more careful. 02:34 xiong I prefer large dogs; although cats can be okay. But I'm just away from home too much and can't possibly afford a house and yard. 02:35 [0gb_us] Kittens are more likely to accidentally hurt you. 02:35 [0gb_us] I see. Dogs scare me personally. 02:36 Exio4 dogs :D 02:36 VanessaE hi all 02:36 Exio4 we have two puppies here, they are cute 02:36 Exio4 they are like 1 month old 02:36 [0gb_us] Hello, VanessaE! 02:36 [0gb_us] Baby animals of any type are often more trouble than their adult counterparts. 02:37 VanessaE anyone care to see some new photos of me? :-) 02:37 [0gb_us] Okay, sure. 02:38 Exio4 new photos? just upload some photos from 2004 \o/ 02:38 VanessaE https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.558797120834851.1073741827.100001137039065&type=1&l=de1c68bfce 02:38 VanessaE (you don't need to be on fb to see that link) 02:38 Exio4 :( facebook 02:39 VanessaE ok fine, http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/extra/ 02:39 [0gb_us] I think I like the pink one best. 02:39 VanessaE go there instead. look at the last dated images among the first couple dozen 02:39 [0gb_us] Facebook doesn't like me, but as long as I don't have to log in, I don't mind, as I deleted my account with them. 02:39 Peacock this is me during the korean war (on the left) http://0.tqn.com/d/history1900s/1/0/3/B/1/korean28.gif 02:40 [0gb_us] Back when photos were still greyscale. 02:40 [0gb_us] VanessaE, did you make those dresses? 02:41 VanessaE 0gb: the silver and gold ones, yes. the others, I bought. 02:41 [0gb_us] What did you make them out of? They're shiny. 02:41 VanessaE vinyl 02:42 * [0gb_us] pulls out records and fails to make clothing out of them 02:42 VanessaE (technically, the material is a combination of PVC and Polyurethane layered onto spandex, but I didn't make the material itself) 02:42 [0gb_us] Yeah, I didn't think you made cloth. That's more a factory-type deal. 02:43 VanessaE hehe 02:43 [0gb_us] Sewing can be fun (I used to do it a little), but I don't imagine making cloth by hand would be fun or effective. 02:43 VanessaE only cost me about $30 in material + thread to make the gold one, the silver I already had leftover fabric on hand from a previous project, so it only cost a couple of bucks for a suitable color of thread. 02:44 [0gb_us] Nice! They look like they'd cost a lot more than that in a store. 02:45 VanessaE everyone liked the gold one, that was tonight's special outfit for a friend's event 02:46 VanessaE in a store, the gold, silver, red, or black ones would run $40 to $80 depending on who makes them (usually the lower end of that because it's almost all chinese anymore). The pink one was around $110. 02:47 [0gb_us] Wow, that's a chunk of change. 02:49 VanessaE yeah 02:49 VanessaE but I got by cheaper than most thanks to my crack sewing skillz ;) 02:49 Peacock you sewed crack pouches into your dress? 02:49 VanessaE :P 02:50 [0gb_us] Ha ha, yeah. Those can come in handy. It's a good way to pass the time too, if you have time to pass. 02:50 Peacock you can do alot of time for stashing crack :P 02:50 [0gb_us] Where else would the crack pouches go? In the bonnet? 02:51 Peacock hm, good question, i hate flying so i never thought about it lol 02:51 [0gb_us] Flying ... what? 02:51 [0gb_us] You lost me on that one. 02:51 Peacock well why else would you stash crack but to smuggle it lol 02:52 [0gb_us] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fywRuLOoBo 02:53 Peacock though judging from all the gangster movies, everything's been tried lol 02:54 [0gb_us] Smuggling the loot to make that cash, first class lounging and I'm gone in a flash! 02:54 Peacock even news stories about babies ODing because someone hid stuff in baby formula cans and forgot to take it out (or got the cans mixed) 02:54 thefamilygrog66 man, just deleted my myspace account - I'm not sure what the hell happened to it, but I didn't like it... 02:55 Peacock no one on myspace, thats what happened :P 02:55 thefamilygrog66 not just that, the whole site has changed into a music listening type of thing, but I had little to no control over my own music there 02:55 Peacock though facebook is getting to be annoying to with all these game requests 02:56 Peacock always check to make sure who owns your music before uploading shit, you dont want them claiming rights over it 02:56 [0gb_us] Facebook wouldn't let me validate my account without entering my cell phone number (I don't have a cell phone, and if I did, Facebook wouldn't be getting my number). Facebook would let me use the site, but wouldn't let me use my chat client with their system without validating my account with that stupid cell phone system .... 02:56 thefamilygrog66 weirdness 02:57 Peacock arent there other methods to validate an account on fb? 02:57 thefamilygrog66 my music's already been published/released on vinyl (speaking of vinyl) and CD, so I'm not too worried about someone else trying to claim it 02:58 Peacock yeah but who knows what myspace might claim their rights are 02:58 Peacock like facebook and using your pics in adverts 02:58 thefamilygrog66 but at any rate, I just deleted it all from myspace, and then the pictures, and then my whole account 02:59 Peacock fbook is simple for me, fake location, fake name, and picture of a black guy (which im not) :P 02:59 thefamilygrog66 nobody's gonna get rich off my songs, and if they're spread around to other folks who enjoy them, that's cool with me 03:00 [0gb_us] The only non-cell phone way to validate your account any more is by sending Facebook copies of legal documents proving your identity. And since I don't use my real name online, I can't prove my identity using legal documents. 03:00 thefamilygrog66 I only wish I'd held onto more than one copy of my LP - it's selling on ebay for $150 these days! 03:01 [0gb_us] Wow! 03:01 thefamilygrog66 ...and I gave most of my 100 copies away, d'oh! 03:02 Peacock cant make more? 03:04 thefamilygrog66 it was released on a UK label in 2000 03:04 * thefamilygrog66 is Canadian 03:04 * thefamilygrog66 can't afford to press vinyl 03:04 thefamilygrog66 haha 03:05 thefamilygrog66 here's someone in China selling a copy for $149: http://goo.gl/IRYrXK 03:06 Exio4 LP = long plays? 03:06 VanessaE technically but usually it just means "a normal size record" versus a "45" 03:06 thefamilygrog66 long player, I believe - vinyl 12" record 03:15 e1z0 mornin 03:15 thefamilygrog66 evenin 03:15 e1z0 :O 03:15 e1z0 it's 6:15 AM here 03:16 thefamilygrog66 it's 11:16 pm here 03:16 e1z0 :O 03:16 e1z0 US ? 03:16 thefamilygrog66 it's probably tomorrow there too! 03:16 thefamilygrog66 Canada, eh 03:16 e1z0 ah 03:16 e1z0 here, europe 03:16 e1z0 :-p 03:16 Exio4 it is 00:16 there 03:16 Exio4 argentina, UTC-3 03:16 Exio4 here* 03:16 thefamilygrog66 cool 03:16 thefamilygrog66 hey Menche 03:17 e1z0 UTC+2 03:17 Exio4 obviously europe :P 03:17 e1z0 EEST 03:17 * e1z0 drinks beer 03:17 Menche UTC-7 03:18 Exio4 e1z0: german? :P 03:18 * Menche has a hard time getting that it isn't night for everyone right now 03:18 e1z0 no 03:18 e1z0 i'm from lithuania 03:18 thefamilygrog66 drinking beer at 6:15am?! 03:18 e1z0 thefamilygrog66, yeah, just get up 03:18 e1z0 :-D 03:18 thefamilygrog66 my goodness 03:18 e1z0 i'm some kind of alcoholic this week 03:19 e1z0 just having a lot of stress 03:19 e1z0 so, drink helps in such situations 03:19 e1z0 Exio4, do you know lithuania ? 03:19 Peacock drinking in the morning doesn't make you an alcoholic, it makes you a pirate! :D 03:19 e1z0 it's a small country between, russia, latvia, poland 03:19 Exio4 e1z0: i don't 03:20 e1z0 we are strong at basketball 03:20 Exio4 that is, i don't know any country in europe, i never went out of argentina (and uruguay) 03:20 Exio4 i only know it by name! :P 03:21 [0gb_us] It makes you an alcoholic pirate. 03:21 e1z0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithuania_national_basketball_team 03:21 e1z0 why me are alcoholic pirate ? 03:21 e1z0 i'm just alcoholic 03:22 e1z0 i'm not making a beer or some king of alcohol 03:22 [0gb_us] Oh, well, if you're not downloading things illegally or stealling on the high seas, you're probably not a pirate. 03:22 Tiktalik minetest needs more gravity 03:22 Tiktalik and also more physics 03:22 Menche gravity can be configured 03:22 Peacock drinking in the morning = like pirates :P 03:22 Peacock not actually pirating stuff 03:23 [0gb_us] Minetest gravity and other physics are fine as they are. 03:23 e1z0 ah, thanks for information 03:23 Peacock though im used to drinking in the morning, worked nightshift for many years lol 03:23 Menche play with the "movement_gravity" setting in minetest.conf. default is 9.81 03:23 ShadowNinja Tiktalik: There..^ 03:23 e1z0 i'm forgetting the english language, coz i don't use it frequently these days 03:23 Tiktalik [0gb_us]: no, falling is too slow after jumping 03:24 Tiktalik too floaty 03:24 Menche i really prefer the simpler physics before the new system was added 03:24 [0gb_us] That's fine. It doesn't need to be realistic. 03:24 Tiktalik it feels bad though 03:24 Tiktalik that's the problem 03:24 [0gb_us] The simpler system was better in most ways, I agree Menche. 03:25 [0gb_us] It doesn't feel bad ... Does it feel bad in Mario when you stay airbore too long? No. Same here. 03:25 [0gb_us] *airborne 03:25 Menche the old system was easier to control 03:25 e1z0 everything is ok with minetest except some times it accours locked in a area then connecting to server 03:25 e1z0 do not know how to explain in english 03:25 Menche you can only get so realistic in a cube world before it gets annoying 03:25 [0gb_us] No worries, e1z0. 03:26 [0gb_us] Cubes plus realism ... *shakes head in confusion at the very thought* 03:26 [0gb_us] Confusion isn't the right word, but I'm at a loss for words. 03:27 Menche lets make it so realisic you have to keep your balance or you'll fall over! with 4 keys and a mouse! 03:27 Tiktalik [0gb_us]: it's at an awkward point where it feels like you should be going higher for how gravity goes 03:27 e1z0 i'm in progress with minecraft fork 03:27 [0gb_us] I haven't run accross that myself on default settings. Well, default physics settings, anyway. 03:27 e1z0 everything works, with the latest git commits 03:28 [0gb_us] Nice! 03:28 [0gb_us] What will your fork change? 03:28 e1z0 don't know how to exactly write copyright messages 03:28 e1z0 i'm changing it's name 03:29 e1z0 [0gb_us], fork will it stabilize, and will be translated in my country language 03:29 [0gb_us] Oh, nice! What language is that? 03:29 e1z0 lithuanian, lol 03:29 e1z0 :-) 03:29 Tiktalik anyway [0gb_us], Minetest feels like it can't decide if you should be up or down 03:29 Tiktalik as far as jumping goes 03:30 Tiktalik also, jumping up hills works weirdly 03:30 thefamilygrog66 you know those mobs that are like, really big mobs? 03:30 [0gb_us] Tiktalik, it doesn't feel that way to me ... I don't know about other people though. 03:30 thefamilygrog66 this is what I'm dealing with on my server right now: http://imageshack.us/a/img834/3112/zsce.png 03:30 Menche i like minetest's physics better than minecraft 03:30 Menche climbing hills is much smoother 03:30 Tiktalik also [0gb_us], compare it to Minecraft jumping 03:30 e1z0 also i'm including some mods 03:31 e1z0 i like this project 03:31 Tiktalik Menche: it feels like you go...boingboingboingboingboing, like the instant you hit it a tiny bit you go bounding up 03:31 Menche you can't jump as far in minecraft; it feels slower 03:31 Menche and less responsive 03:31 e1z0 then i will learn the source code, i will help with fixes too 03:31 e1z0 it needs a lot of contribution, to be a stable and good game 03:31 e1z0 ;-) 03:32 Menche Tiktalik: i prefer it this way. but you can fiddle with the physics settings if you don't like it 03:32 thefamilygrog66 gotta hide in treetops to get away from BIG STEVE: http://imageshack.us/a/img194/3866/30ov.png 03:32 [0gb_us] If you compare it to our old jump mechanics, those were better, but our new ones are still fine. I forget what Minecraft jumping is like though, I only played Minecraft twice and it was years ago. 03:32 [0gb_us] *months, not years 03:32 Menche imo minecraft's physics feel less responsive and slower 03:33 Menche flying is really bad 03:33 [0gb_us] Minecraft was too laggy for me to notice any non-responsiveness. 03:33 thefamilygrog66 I'm always opening my damn inventory in minecraft whenever I wanna go faster 03:33 Menche thefamilygrog66: LOL me too 03:34 e1z0 minecraft is like the notepad opening 1TB of text file 03:34 [0gb_us] Why "e"? "Inventory doesn't start with "e". 03:34 Tiktalik In minecraft 03:34 Tiktalik You jump higher 03:34 Tiktalik But fall faster 03:34 Tiktalik Not much higher, just a little 03:34 [0gb_us] But "forward" starts with "w", so it's all good. 03:34 e1z0 lol 03:35 Menche inertia is annoying. when you're flying and going fast, it's impossible to get your player into a certain position because it keeps moving after you let off the keys 03:35 thefamilygrog66 WASD is pretty standard 03:35 Menche in MC 03:35 Tiktalik Yeah Menche, I think Minetest could use a little more walking inertia 03:35 [0gb_us] True. Inertia was being a pain in some other game I played the other day, but I forget which. 03:35 Tiktalik But creative flying...no 03:35 Tiktalik no inertia 03:36 [0gb_us] Tiktalik, Menche is saying no/little inertia is better, not more. 03:36 Menche yeah 03:36 thefamilygrog66 can you run in minecraft? 03:36 Tiktalik yes 03:36 Menche thefamilygrog66: yeah, but it's not as good 03:36 [0gb_us] Yeah, but running mechanics are ... different to say the least. 03:36 Menche double-tap 'w' for a very minor speed increase that turns of when you hit something 03:36 thefamilygrog66 I didn't think it was as cool 03:37 thefamilygrog66 could never tell, cause my inventory kept opening 03:37 thefamilygrog66 haha 03:37 Menche been playing minetest-classic lately; the only inertia i notice was when you're using fast-move on the ground, and then it's very minimal 03:37 Menche easy to control your player 03:38 [0gb_us] My "escape" key menu kept opening, even when not touching the keyboard. 03:38 thefamilygrog66 what kinda sounds should giant Steve make? 03:39 [0gb_us] "So zetta slow!" 03:39 Menche [0gb_us], in minecraft classic? 03:39 Menche i've found that to be extremely buggy lately 03:39 [0gb_us] Menche, in current (or current a few months ago) Minecraft. 03:40 Menche also, in Minecraft my 'w' key kept sticking. usually when i was fighting a creeper. 03:40 [0gb_us] My siblings have had the "w" key issue on several occasions. They thought it was the keyboard at first, but it isn't; it's the game. 03:41 [0gb_us] They play Minecraft, I play Minetest. 03:41 kahrl i think that was a lwjgl issue that was fixed some months ago 03:41 Menche i've heard that the lwjgl library was updated since i played last, fixing that. 03:41 Tiktalik sticky keys means you need different lwjgl 03:41 Tiktalik anyway Menche: I like the way physics works 03:41 Tiktalik it just needs to go through its business 03:41 Tiktalik a little faster 03:42 Tiktalik also, sprinting in minecraft isn't that small of a speedboost... 03:42 Tiktalik even though it's not big it still breaks combat 03:42 Tiktalik because the monsters weren't retuned for it 03:43 kahrl well they added baby zombies and pigmen 03:43 Menche and decapitated heads 03:43 Tiktalik pigmen were in since alpha 03:44 Tiktalik and baby zombies were just shittily done 03:44 Tiktalik protip: nothing mojang's done lately that's combat-related is good 03:44 kahrl *baby zombie pigmen 03:44 kahrl I agree :P 03:44 Tiktalik oh 03:44 Tiktalik baby zombie pigmen? this is worse than I thought 03:44 Menche i stopped following minecraft updates a while ago 03:45 thefamilygrog66 horsies 03:45 Exio4 minecraft updates are cute 03:45 Menche a lot of new additions were getting to arbitrary for my taste 03:45 thefamilygrog66 and the locals talk now 03:45 Menche *too 03:45 Tiktalik villagers don't talk 03:45 Tiktalik they say "hmm" 03:45 Tiktalik and "hmmmm" 03:45 Exio4 now they are switching to a "minecraft:nodename" based way for blocks or w/e 03:45 thefamilygrog66 well, they make noises now 03:45 Tiktalik and "hmm" in a slightly lower voice 03:45 Tiktalik deeper that is 03:45 Menche after they switched to split textures 03:46 Tiktalik so if you go to a big village 03:46 Tiktalik hmmm 03:46 Tiktalik HMM 03:46 Tiktalik HMMM 03:46 Exio4 and there is an amplified mapgen that is actually normal with highers hills/oceans 03:46 Menche LOL 03:46 Exio4 *coughs*indev*coughs*proller*coughs* 03:46 Tiktalik now if only ShadowBot could do that to the villagers 03:46 thefamilygrog66 I'm pretty sure the villagers are modeled after Squidward from Spongebob 03:46 Menche ShadowBot doesn't like the sound of minecraft villages 03:46 Menche thefamilygrog66, i thought that too 03:46 thefamilygrog66 hmmmmm 03:47 thefamilygrog66 HMM 03:47 kahrl also why do they keep talking about a minetest dev? 03:47 Menche he's probably been pinged like 5 times in the last minute 03:47 Exio4 lol 03:48 Tiktalik anyway 03:48 Exio4 good night 03:48 Tiktalik minetest's physics are fine 03:48 Tiktalik but they're too slow 03:48 [0gb_us] "indev" is a map generating algorythm. 03:48 Tiktalik in how they act 03:48 Tiktalik it should be the same, but...faster 03:48 Exio4 OldCoder: > mapgen 03:48 Exio4 [0gb_us]: * 03:48 Exio4 OldCoder: sowwy :P 03:48 [0gb_us] That's what I said .... 03:49 Tiktalik and Menche, I think walking should have a tiny bit more inertia 03:49 Tiktalik but creative mode 03:49 Tiktalik no inertia 03:49 Tiktalik blasts? 03:49 Tiktalik tons of it 03:49 [0gb_us] Creative mode IS regular mode with a different menu. 03:49 Tiktalik so yes, being shot out of a cannon, or blown away by an explosion will in fact 03:49 Tiktalik make you flyyyy 03:50 Menche and you can break any node in like 0.5 seconds 03:50 Menche there's some group defined in the API to allow for explosions; not sure what it does, if anything 03:50 [0gb_us] It lets you chain explosions. 03:50 Tiktalik yeah that's one thing that annoys me about minecraft explosions 03:50 Tiktalik powerful, but NO PUSHFORCE 03:51 [0gb_us] Push force seems like more of a hassle than a good thing. 03:51 [0gb_us] You are working on something, then someone blows you up and blows you away. Lame. 03:52 Menche would be nice if flowing water had push force 03:52 Tiktalik [0gb_us]: An explosion should be able to send things flying more than 3-4 blocks. 03:52 Tiktalik and by things 03:52 Tiktalik I mean players 03:52 Tiktalik It's not like explosions are spontaneous. 03:52 Menche at least for items 03:52 Menche could automate more things, build mob traps, etc. 03:52 [0gb_us] Yes, then other players send YOU flying. I don't like that. 03:53 Tiktalik [0gb_us]: By sneaking behind you, placing a TNT block and detonating it, without you noticing? 03:53 * thefamilygrog66 is killing gigantic Steve mobs 03:53 Menche don't think that would be any worse than another player killing you and sending you back to spawn 03:53 Tiktalik If you don't notice, you'll be too dead to care 03:53 [0gb_us] The TNT block could be hidden, and it could be a trap. 03:53 OldCoder Hi 03:54 [0gb_us] Hello! 03:54 Tiktalik [0gb_us]: In which case, if you survive, you thouroughly deserve what you get, and being pushed around 10 blocks won't be anything more than an INCONVENIENCE. 03:54 Tiktalik Certainly less bothersome than cleaning up the blast crater. 03:54 kahrl minecraft explosions have no pushforce? watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LtmJernGJc at 27:40 03:54 [0gb_us] I don't think people "deserve" what trolls dish out. We shouldn't have to be on guard all the time. 03:55 Menche when i'm in MC, getting pushed around is the least of my worries when i see a creeper outside my window 03:55 [0gb_us] Explosions in general are a bad idea. 03:55 Menche i typically disable fire too 03:55 Menche adds more destruction than fun 03:55 [0gb_us] i'm going to use a less corrosive version of fire myself. 03:56 Tiktalik [0gb_us]: If you have problems with people planting traps for you, then you should play on a server where only trusted players can use tnt 03:56 thefamilygrog66 I've disabled fire, though the dungeon masters still manage to burn the crap outta things 03:56 Tiktalik also, in minecraft, fire sucks now 03:56 Tiktalik they nerfed it, it's so slow 03:56 [0gb_us] My fire won't spread and eat whole forests. Plus, you know, land claims will block it. 03:56 Menche i remember when occasionally tree blocks would burn perpetually in MC 03:56 Menche i thought that was kinda cool really 03:56 Tiktalik [0gb_us]: In minecraft, you're lucky to get a single tree now 03:57 [0gb_us] Good. 03:57 [0gb_us] Fire destroying all your hard work is NOT my idea of "fun". 03:57 Menche in minetest you can have different gamemodes to suit different purposes. all that stuff would be great for a warfare oriented game mode. 03:58 [0gb_us] That sounds good to me. Just don't put it in all game modes. 03:58 Menche or a gamemode that focuses more on actual survival than building 03:58 Tiktalik kahrl: vertically they have lots, horizontally not lots 03:58 Menche currently there isn't much to survive in minetest. just falling and drowning. 03:58 kahrl true 03:59 [0gb_us] Drowning is too much. 03:59 kahrl have to use cannons for that 03:59 Tiktalik vertically, a lot of tnt gets you really high 03:59 Tiktalik but horizontally, almost nothing 03:59 thefamilygrog66 don't forget giants, Menche... 04:00 kahrl did they nerf it horizontally? 04:00 * Menche thinks that we're bickering about what's appropriate and what's not because minetest_game doesn't have a very definite direction/goal 04:00 Tiktalik kahrl: I'm talking about players, you can't really toss them out of a cannon well 04:00 Tiktalik I should test things, but you have to be sprintjumping in the air to get pushed much at all by a creeper 04:01 [0gb_us] I think even with a goal, we'd bicker. Plus, the blast thing seems like an engine deal. If in the game, we're all stuck with it. 04:01 Menche can always make a different game mode if it's only in lua 04:02 Menche really, im surprised there aren't more popular alternative game modes. 04:02 Tiktalik Anyway Menche, have you played Cave Story 04:02 [0gb_us] True, but with the blast issue, if it's not configurable, Lua won't help. 04:02 Menche no 04:03 [0gb_us] Menche, I'm working on one. I don't know if it will be a hit, but it will be big and have a lot of content. Many people seem to want that. 04:03 Tiktalik okay 04:03 Menche im working on one (slowly). 04:03 Tiktalik Anyway Menche: I like physics to be a bit floaty, and you to jump fairly well, but I also like them to be fast 04:03 e1z0 let's drink some beer! 04:03 e1z0 ;-) 04:04 Menche Tiktalik: you see the physics settings in the example conf file? 04:04 Menche you can tweak a lot of the physics stuff 04:05 Menche overall gravity, fall rate, acceleration rate, etc. 04:05 Tiktalik hm, ok 04:05 thefamilygrog66 I liked how fast move interacted with water back in 0.4.4 or so 04:05 Tiktalik fall rate would be what I'm looking for then Menche :) 04:05 Tiktalik i think 04:05 Tiktalik if it's how fast you get to falling? 04:05 kahrl if i was working on physics i'd try to fix the phantom collisions and make jumping up a 3 high staircase smoother 04:05 Menche thefamilygrog66: you mean how you were slowed down in water even when sprinting? 04:06 thefamilygrog66 no, after that Menche, so that you would fly out of the water 04:06 Tiktalik heh, sprinting in water should slow you down more 04:06 [0gb_us] I liked how water could break your fall. Now you need to define dedicated nodes for that .... 04:06 Menche if you don't have aux1_descends set, sprinting in water and climbable nodes like ladders is absolutely ridiculous 04:07 Menche [0gb_us]: YES. absolutely. I hate how you can take fall damage under water. 04:07 * thefamilygrog66 kept dying doing down ladders... 04:07 thefamilygrog66 *going 04:07 Menche you can climb down ladders faster than you freefall. 04:07 thefamilygrog66 craziness 04:07 Menche i think physics should be reset to the way it was before. 04:08 Menche i tried reverting the corresponding commits, with no luck. 04:08 [0gb_us] I think it should be togleable. Make it stay as it currently is by default, but allow a conf option to enable the older and better physics. 04:08 Menche a few people like the new way so there should be toggleable... [0gb_us] beat me to that 04:09 Menche although i'd prefer it to be the old way by default 04:12 [0gb_us] THere are a lot of things that should be default but aren't, so I'd be happy just to have the option. 04:12 [0gb_us] Like jungles and dungeons. 04:13 Menche i'm actually surprised they put those back in. I had almost lost hope. 04:13 [0gb_us] I had lost hope. 04:13 Menche now, the old mobs... 04:14 [0gb_us] When the jungle grass was added back ouside of jungles, I prety much though jungles would never return. 04:14 Menche the days when you had to illuminate all the caves around your house to prevent dungeon masters from spawning and blasting your house to pieces from below... 04:14 [0gb_us] The dungeon master needs to be "Nerfed". 04:14 Menche yeah. it shouldn't be able to target through solid nodes. 04:14 [0gb_us] Blasting away your house is not cool. 04:15 Menche and a switch to turn off destroying nodes at all 04:15 [0gb_us] Exactly. 04:15 [0gb_us] Maybe allow starting fires with flammable nodes as an option, but not required. 04:15 Menche i like the firearms mod, but i usually disable the section that allows explosives to destroy nodes. 04:16 Menche more options are usually fine, but we don't want a 500 MB example conf file. 04:16 [0gb_us] True enough. 04:17 * [0gb_us] 's hadr drive is only 256 MiB, it can't hold that conf file 04:17 Menche maybe a setting like "dm_fireball_damage = node, player, fire" where you can add/remove flags 04:17 Menche would cut down on the options needed for that level of flexibility 04:18 [0gb_us] Like how the map generator flags are. 04:18 Menche yeah. 04:19 [0gb_us] Did you see the commit to add a conf file interpreter for use by plugins to have their own separate conf file? 04:19 Menche no 04:19 thefamilygrog66 DM's burn water and clouds on my server - bizarre 04:19 Menche i usually just use minetest.get_setting_bool (or whatever that function is called) when i want to make something configurable in a mod. 04:19 [0gb_us] I was actually going to try something like that in Lua, but the C++ one should be faster. 04:20 Menche other mods use a settings.lua file that's loaded with dofile(). 04:20 Menche i find it more convenient to have all configuration in one place though. 04:20 [0gb_us] Flammable water? That reminds me of burning lava, which is for when regular lava is not enough. 04:21 thefamilygrog66 Yep, they burn through everything, literally 04:21 thefamilygrog66 keeps me on my toes 04:21 Menche mobf? 04:21 thefamilygrog66 simple 04:22 Menche celeron55's dungeon crawler game's dungeon masters were scary. They fired tons of fireballs rapid-fire at a *crazy* rate. 04:22 Menche iirc they were based on mobf. 04:22 [0gb_us] Yeah, I think they were. 04:22 Menche ofc they didn't always notice you, like simple mobs monsters :P 04:23 Menche when they did you got fireball-machine-gunned though. 04:23 thefamilygrog66 crazy, the DMs in simple mobs are scary enough 04:24 * thefamilygrog66 is hitting the hay 04:24 thefamilygrog66 night folks 04:24 Menche are the oerkki monsters in any mob mods invisible in the dark like they used to be? i liked that. 04:24 [0gb_us] G'night. 04:24 Menche night 04:25 Menche added a bit of a thrill to mining in the dark. 04:26 Menche my very first post on the forums was asking about the oerkkis becoming invisible :) 04:27 [0gb_us] I think my very first post was about connecting to servers; I couldn't do it. It turns out the Ubuntu repository Minetest is WAY out of date. 04:28 Menche i forget when exactly i started playing; i know it was before ladders and apple trees were added. i remember those being new. 04:29 * Menche misses the old Kray's server 04:29 * [0gb_us] misses the old Globis world 04:49 Miner_48er !up 75.131.40.131 30000 04:49 MinetestBot 75.131.40.131:30000 seems to be down 05:00 e1z0 !up eofnet.lt:30000 05:00 MinetestBot e1z0: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 05:00 e1z0 !up eofnet.lt 0000 05:00 MinetestBot eofnet.lt:0 seems to be down 05:00 e1z0 !up eofnet.lt 30000 05:00 e1z0 lol 05:00 MinetestBot eofnet.lt:30000 seems to be down 05:00 [0gb_us] End of file net? 05:01 e1z0 yeah 05:01 e1z0 end of line 05:01 e1z0 lol 05:01 [0gb_us] Interesting name, 05:01 [0gb_us] . 05:01 e1z0 yeah 05:34 e1z0 !up eofnet.lt 30000 05:34 MinetestBot eofnet.lt:30000 is up (213ms) 05:34 e1z0 \o/ 07:11 Rhy5 Hello hello hello hello! 07:11 [0gb_us] Hello! 07:11 Rhy5 Hi there! 07:12 Rhy5 Oh Hi Ogb! 07:12 Rhy5 Hows it going? 07:12 [0gb_us] Pretty good. How's it going for you? 07:12 Rhy5 Fine thanks. 07:12 Rhy5 But, I can't actually believe I have started MODDING! 07:12 Rhy5 I am making a Bear Grylls Mod, Enchanting Mod, Capes Mod... 07:13 [0gb_us] Nice! 07:13 Rhy5 Capes mod is becoming most successful, thanks to Jordach. 07:13 Rhy5 Infact... 07:13 [0gb_us] Yeah, Jordach seems to like capes. 07:13 Rhy5 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7160 07:13 Rhy5 Have to go lol bye! 08:17 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Friday the 13th and happy Programmers' Day! :-D 08:25 * Calinou hands JamesTait a {good code} ticket, redeem at your nearest Programmer 08:26 JamesTait :) 11:05 jojoa1997 Hello 11:11 jojoa1997 Does github show how many download have been done? 11:15 e1z0 -1 11:15 jojoa1997 .? 11:19 jojoa1997 Gtg cya 11:29 * sfan5 puts Rainbow Dash on john_minetest's head 11:29 sfan5 hi everyone 11:30 * john_minetest puts Tootsie Flute on sfan5's head 11:30 * sfan5 puts Derpy Hooves on john_minetest's head 11:32 * john_minetest puts Mr. Greenhooves on sfan5's head 11:32 * sfan5 puts a kitten on john_minetest's head 11:33 * john_minetest puts a puppy on sfan5's head 11:33 * sfan5 throws a kitten at john_minetest 11:36 * john_minetest catches kitten, transforms it into grenade, counts "21, 22, 23" and throws it back to sfan5 11:37 * sfan5 puts the grenade in a .tar file and throws it at john_minetest 11:38 * john_minetest transforms the compressed grenade into compressed air and blows sfan5 away. 11:38 sfan5 :( 11:38 sfan5 you win 11:39 proller use hardcore_mese_tnt!! 11:41 * john_minetest writes "killall minetest" 12:19 sfan5 !op 12:20 sfan5 !deop 12:23 KikaRz Task of the Day? Where is the Hamburguer of the day? 12:24 * Calinou puts a pony on john_minetest's head 12:25 * john_minetest puts a kitten on Calinou's head 12:25 KikaRz Or that ! 12:25 KikaRz TAKE THAT SANDWITCHE! 12:58 * STHGOM puts a pony on john_minetest's head 12:59 * KikaRz puts a pony on john_minetest's head. 13:03 * GNADev|zRokh puts a pony on john_minetest 13:10 * Exio4 puts Calinou on john_minetest's head 13:10 Exio4 :D 13:11 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 13:11 Exio4 PilzAdam: pony* 13:12 STHGOM hello 13:16 STHGOM good-bye 13:16 GNADev|zRokh lol :D 13:16 STHGOM :F 13:16 STHGOM :D 13:17 * GNADev|zRokh is getting bit by flies on his leg... it hurts him a lot 13:18 PilzAdam double post: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110280#p110280 13:18 sfan5 !title 13:18 MinetestBot sfan5: Mods Idea Adventure Test! (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums 13:18 Exio4 chipa :D 13:19 PilzAdam I dont think this thread is appropriate for a forum where kids are arround: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110268#p110268 13:19 GNADev|zRokh !title 13:19 sfan5 !title 13:19 MinetestBot sfan5: Forum message — Minetest Forums 13:20 GNADev|zRokh tell me why? 13:20 GNADev|zRokh Y U NO TALK TO ME?! 13:20 sfan5 PilzAdam: I agree 13:20 sfan5 !unignore GNADev|zRokh 13:20 MinetestBot sfan5: 'GNADev|zRokh' removed from ignore list. 13:20 sfan5 I don't remember putting you on the ignore list 13:20 GNADev|zRokh oh... ok, thanks 13:20 PilzAdam sfan5, have you fixed ignore? (i.e. can I use it again) 13:20 GNADev|zRokh !title 13:20 MinetestBot GNADev|zRokh: Forum message — Minetest Forums 13:20 GNADev|zRokh yay :D 13:20 sfan5 PilzAdam: dunno, try it :P 13:20 PilzAdam !ignore GNADev|zRokh 13:21 PilzAdam :-/ 13:21 sfan5 :-\ 13:21 GNADev|zRokh :/ 13:21 PilzAdam :-< 13:21 GNADev|zRokh >:O 13:21 sfan5 :-> 13:21 * Exio4 kills GNADev|zRokh in fire 13:21 * GNADev|zRokh is downloading Counter-Strike and will play it on Trisquel-Mini 6.0 13:22 Exio4 counter strike 1.6? czero? source? 13:22 * GNADev|zRokh revives and f**ks Exio4 to death 13:22 GNADev|zRokh 1.6 13:22 GNADev|zRokh :P 13:22 GNADev|zRokh how do you like them ballz? 13:22 sfan5 eh 13:22 GNADev|zRokh Exio4, know what my favourite cartoon is? 13:22 GNADev|zRokh Dragon Balls 13:22 GNADev|zRokh :P 13:23 Exio4 the fuck 13:23 GNADev|zRokh Exio4, Y U NO LIKE DRAGON BALLS? 13:24 pitriss somebody will be banned here soon I guess.. 13:24 GNADev|zRokh why? 13:24 GNADev|zRokh what did i do wrong? 13:25 GNADev|zRokh wasnt there a cartoon called Dragon Balls? 13:25 PilzAdam GNADev|zRokh, you pretty much violate every rule for this channel 13:25 GNADev|zRokh really? 13:25 GNADev|zRokh RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels 13:25 GNADev|zRokh :P 13:26 pitriss GNADev|zRokh: I don't think that spam is "respecting" others.. 13:26 PilzAdam you are neither patient nor do you respect others 13:26 Exio4 fuck you PilzAdam 13:26 Exio4 is that right? 13:26 GNADev|zRokh what? 13:27 * GNADev|zRokh is installing Counter-Strike :P 13:27 PilzAdam also you are constantly offtopic 13:28 PilzAdam offtopic is allowed in this channel, but not too much and not if you are the only one being offtopic 13:28 GNADev|zRokh no, im just using IRC@Freenode#minetest as another Twitter :D 13:28 PilzAdam oh 13:28 PilzAdam in this case... 13:28 GNADev|zRokh ijk 13:28 PilzAdam !op 13:28 PilzAdam !deop 13:30 pitriss nice shot:) 13:32 sfan5 "*!*@*.elisa.ee" ban a whole ISP for one person ✔ 13:32 PilzAdam xchat did that :-/ 13:33 Calinou happened to me once 13:33 Calinou but only for a few days 13:33 PilzAdam !op 13:34 PilzAdam !deop 13:35 Exio4 use a proper irc client with proper scripts 13:35 * Exio4 installs weechat with chanop.py on PilzAdam's kubuntu 13:35 KikaRz lol 13:43 Exio4 yes 13:47 NekoGloop soon(tm) 14:02 pgrytdal Hello 14:06 PilzAdam hello pgrytdal 14:08 jojoa1997 Hi 14:27 Exio4 PilzAdam: weechat 0.4.2-rc1 :P 14:27 Exio4 my client 14:31 PilzAdam Exio4, thats the slowest CTCP response I have ever seen :-p 14:48 sfan5 random video of the sky tower on redcrab's server: http://youtu.be/ehyS2dLpbbU 14:53 yyamiyyugi good luck trying to build that on minecraft XD 14:58 VanessaE 9km high? O.O 15:00 VanessaE nope, guess not 15:02 yyamiyyugi I get that people need to play, i just wouldn't want to see this community turn into what minecraft calls a community, so far the community is pretty good here as far as i have seen 15:03 yyamiyyugi lol, i'm not banned from #minecraft, but I am from all the bukkit channels 15:03 VanessaE well if y'all would stop trolling them :P 15:04 yyamiyyugi well, I wasn't trolling :p 15:04 Calinou bukkit channels may disallow webchat/mibbit 15:04 yyamiyyugi they called me a theif and i didn't take too kindly to that 15:04 yyamiyyugi so i got mad, they got mad, i got banned 15:05 * NekoGloop curls up in VanessaE's lap 15:05 * Calinou pets NekoGloop 15:05 Calinou ninja'd 15:05 * NekoGloop purrs :3 15:05 Calinou yyamiyyugi: ignore the trolls 15:06 yyamiyyugi lol, if only it were the trolls, it was a developer :p 15:06 NekoGloop Dinnerbone? :P 15:06 Exio4 PilzAdam, john_minetest, ctcps are blocked there :P 15:07 yyamiyyugi no, mbaxter 15:07 NekoGloop Yeah, I'm pretty sure they have a ban on *minetest*@* 15:08 VanessaE heh 15:08 VanessaE cute 15:08 sfan5 NekoGloop: they do 15:08 NekoGloop They also have me banned. 15:08 yyamiyyugi lol 15:09 yyamiyyugi y tey ban!?!?!? 15:09 VanessaE ask Calinou :P 15:09 NekoGloop because a guy called "Dinnerbone" is in charge. 15:09 yyamiyyugi lol 15:09 NekoGloop not only is he making minecraft into a piece of shit, but he's reserving his own little hellhole in the IRC channel. 15:09 yyamiyyugi i don't think i have ever been on #minecraft 15:10 nore hi all 15:11 Miner_48er hi 15:13 NekoGloop Sounds like PA if he spoke his mind 15:14 sfan5 <MinetestBot> GIT: pilcrowjesus@gmail.com commited [...] 15:14 sfan5 plol 15:15 VanessaE well he contributed the change after all 15:25 * Jordach wonders when capes gets merged 15:26 Peacock capes? very gay, tape miss Brahms! (http://goo.gl/NMa3Ux) 15:28 Jordach lol 15:29 Peacock all that's missing to be superman is a mod to wear your underwear above the pants :P 15:29 * Jordach has A3 paper 15:30 Peacock A3? why y no A1?! 15:33 NekoGloop So, PilzAdam, are you going to actually help me fix glooptest causing this supposed "worldgen slowdown," or just sit there bitching at me? 15:34 Peacock i guess i missed the bitching part :P 15:35 Peacock ianno it took me 3 hours to get this son-of-a-bitch new flow router to work in 6D http://s12.postimg.org/oebc8nq8t/screenshot_401896895.png 15:35 VanessaE bbl 15:35 NekoGloop Whenever glooptest is brought up while he's around, he sees it fit to bitch at me that my treasure chest spawning code is slow. 15:36 Peacock does it use ongen? 15:37 NekoGloop https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/blob/master/glooptest/othergen_module/init.lua 15:38 Peacock im guessing the code in question is... treasure_chest_populate? 15:38 NekoGloop No, that puts the shit in the chests 15:38 NekoGloop you're looking for the minetest.register_on_generated 15:39 Peacock jesus you use alot of math.randoms 15:39 Peacock in any case, have you compared ongen with using a simpler abm? 15:39 NekoGloop :P 15:40 NekoGloop with an abm, I'd have to log every mapblock that it's been attempted on 15:40 Peacock wait, these things generate underground? 15:41 NekoGloop and above ground 15:41 Peacock well with abm's theres the ancient flower method: you look for other chests within a radius and dont proceed if you find one 15:41 NekoGloop Rank 1/2 are above ground, Rank 3/4/5 are underground 15:41 NekoGloop That would be even slower, would it not? 15:41 Peacock well thats why i said compare, can't garantee that it is or it isn't 15:42 NekoGloop And, can you actually try it? It doesn't cause any slowdown for me. I have a feeling Pilz is just fucking with me. 15:42 Peacock well it depends how many mods pilz is running that uses ongen as well 15:42 NekoGloop default 15:43 Peacock well i run a very old default so im not sure my test results would be any use 15:44 NekoGloop just compare it to your normal speed >.> 15:46 NekoGloop i'm more concerned with the difference than the speed 15:46 Peacock what is #coords.x (the # for?) 15:46 NekoGloop number of entries 15:47 Peacock ah shit i forgot about that lol 15:47 Peacock whats the difference between minetest.place/add/set_node? lol 15:47 NekoGloop set is add 15:47 NekoGloop and place acts like a player 15:48 Peacock i suppose theres a reason for having 3 different methods lol 15:48 Peacock (in the api i mean) 15:48 NekoGloop no 15:48 NekoGloop set = add 15:48 NekoGloop place acts like a player 15:48 Peacock for i = minp.x,maxp.x do 15:49 Peacock table.insert(coords.x, i) 15:49 Peacock end 15:49 Peacock i think this might be the culprint 15:49 Peacock how big is the table? 15:49 NekoGloop as big as the mapblock 15:50 Peacock so 3 tables of 16 entries? 15:50 NekoGloop or so 15:51 Peacock well the only other part that might be slow is the randoms() 15:52 Peacock or the get nodes 15:52 Peacock if youre doing it on every node in the mapblock, that 16^3 get nodes 15:52 Peacock for every mapblock generated 15:52 NekoGloop give me a better way to do it then 15:53 Peacock not sure i could help coming up with a better use of ongen, i think it's slow as fuck 15:54 Peacock but if you want to generate stuff on the surface, id suggest just running an abm on grass/sand/etc and checking for air above, at least that way your doing it on 1 in 20 or 30 nodes (chance) instead of every node of the mapblock 15:55 Peacock as for the underground portion, use the oregen code 15:55 Peacock and populate the chests only when they are opened for the first time 16:03 NekoGloop they aren't ores though 16:03 NekoGloop they spawn in caves 16:04 e1z0 how to make invunerable man ? 16:04 e1z0 what command ? 16:05 Calinou none 16:34 ImQ009 I KNEW! I knew I forgot about something from my autojoin list 16:35 Calinou ~obit ImQ009 16:35 ImQ009 Calinou, Stop leaking other channels into here 16:36 * Calinou puts a pony on ImQ009's head 16:36 * ImQ009 ignores the pony 16:48 Jordach hello ImQ009 16:48 ImQ009 Hello, fellow other-channel-er 16:50 * john_minetest puts a Calinou on pony's head 16:59 * KikaRz puts another pony in john_minetest's head. 17:03 smoke_fumus i'm gonna repost this, just to support my friend http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=151680542 < guy making topdown roguelike survival, something between minecraft and df adventurer mode set on a procedurially generated island. 17:28 Peacock damn gov't sent us a tax bill that was high enough to precipitate an anxiety attack lol - its ok though, turns out they owe us 3x the amount 17:36 Jordach \o/ \O/ 17:37 Peacock they fucked up on our marital status and counted us as singles lol 17:37 Jordach Minetest on Steam *oh shit* 17:37 Peacock on steam? 17:37 Jordach that'll happen one day 17:37 Peacock does the GPL allow it? 17:37 Jordach as now we have the mod installer, it's VERY possible 17:38 Jordach Peacock, LGPL remember 17:38 Peacock well what does the mod installer have to do with minetest on steam? 17:38 Peacock and are you sure it won't attract more griefers than anything else? :P 17:40 NekoGloop isn't that what every new user is at this point 17:40 Peacock i just figured out that not only do BRs grief, but theyre the ones lagging the hell out of my server 17:43 Peacock sucks but i had to remove interact from default privs to deal with them :( 17:44 Jordach the brazilians 17:45 Jordach someone from BR took out my vps iirc 17:47 Peacock how did they do that? 17:49 pgrytdal I have a problem. Whenever I launch Minetest in Manjaro (Either installed form the Manjaro repos or the Arch repos), Manjaro logs me out. 17:52 Jordach Peacock, they managed to work out the root pass 17:52 Peacock jesus 17:52 Jordach you're forgetting most people in BR are criminals 17:52 Peacock well theyre forcing me to use ip range blocking for the first time, 419 entries to block one country lol 17:52 Jordach get fucked BR. -Mauvebic 17:53 Peacock seriously, i havent had 1 single BR that built anything lol 17:53 Peacock they either grief or fly when they shouldn't be able to 17:53 Peacock while lagging out everyone else 17:54 * Jordach doesnt trust brunob.santos 17:56 Peacock i somehow get the feeling he's looking for a way to hack his client, rather than prevent it XD 17:57 PilzAdam seems legit: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110327#p110327 17:57 Jordach try again 17:58 PilzAdam you should have moved to "other languages"... 17:58 Peacock link nroken "{ 17:58 Peacock *link broken :P 17:58 Jordach donesies. 18:02 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4HkAM8g7kA 18:03 Peacock uhuhuhuhuh, rap 18:04 Peacock is crap with a silent c 18:04 jin_xi a real g is silent like lasagna 18:05 Peacock this rap culture BS has even made it's way to canada where every other weekend innocent kids get caught in the crossfire between gangbangers 18:05 Peacock though mostly in Toronto 18:11 Jordach do they say "sorry" when shooting each other 18:12 Peacock naw, theyre not regular black people (born here) theyre haitians and somalians 18:12 Peacock i still dont get why people wish to leave a shitty country to make their destination as shitty 18:16 Peacock in the span of 15 years in TO and Montreal ive gone from leftwing/socialist to rightwing/libertarian lol 18:16 jojoa1997 Because they could have problems in their old place 18:17 jin_xi Peacock: i suspect its more like beeing frustrated and nursing bad thought patterns with alcool while being delusional about wisdom 18:17 Peacock theres something to be frustrated about, Toronto and Montreal used to be decent places to live 18:18 Peacock even the cops are more agressive now because they put up with this shit daily 18:18 * jojoa1997 wonders when kaeza is on 18:18 Peacock and since profiling isn't PC they treat everyone like potential criminals 18:19 Peacock and i dont really see where drinking comes into it, rightwingers drink, leftwingers get high, so wheres the difference? 18:24 Peacock it always amuses me though how young people with very few burdens complain about the habits of those that do have 18:24 jin_xi drinkers often get suspicious of everything and often also think they figured out/speak the truth 18:25 Calinou some people do neither 18:27 Peacock but somehow your wisdom is infallible... 18:27 Peacock what do you blame when you're wrong? 18:28 jin_xi wikipedia 18:28 Peacock lol the people who edit articles usually have a vested interest in the subject at hand 18:29 Peacock so i wouldn't bank entirely on that alone 18:29 Peacock and if you knew jack about acohol or drugs you'd know it has different effects on different people 18:31 Peacock they give synthetic cocaine to ADHD cases because it actually calmes them down, and thats just one example 18:31 Peacock normal people who take those medications feel like they're on speed 18:32 jin_xi so lets rant about drugged up students studying way to hard 18:33 Peacock well you brought alcohol into this, not me 18:35 jin_xi you often mention your drinking, thats why... im mostly just annoyed with too much offtopic stuff 18:36 Peacock when people are ontopic i stay ontopic, if nothing's going on here then we talk about whatever, that's how it's always been, and no one's forcing you to participate in the offtopic stuff 18:36 jin_xi i know and usually dont bother 18:37 * ShadowNinja notices [0gb_us]'s cloak. 18:37 Peacock and there's always -dev which is strictly ontopic 18:39 [0gb_us] Yeah. I wasn't going to ask for one, but because of what this one is, I did. But then they put a dash in my name in my cloak. I think "0gb-us" is a separate and valid name on IRC, so what if 0gb-us wants this cloak? I can only hope such a name never ends up in use. 18:39 * Jordach too 18:40 [0gb_us] Oh, and go FSF! 18:40 * Jordach doesn't like the iPhone 5S 18:41 Peacock whats wrong with the 5S? 18:41 ShadowNinja [0gb_us]: It won't, nicks starting with numbers are reserved for EUIDs. 18:41 ShadowNinja And those are always in the form 0AAAAAAA. 18:41 [0gb_us] Oops, I meant "us-0gb". 18:41 Jordach Peacock, fingerprint scanners 18:42 * Jordach wonders where that data goes 18:42 Jordach !g banned iPhone 5S ad 18:42 MinetestBot Jordach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sIWez9HAbA 18:42 [0gb_us] So someone could register as "us-0gb", and I'd be whearing his/her cloak. 18:42 Jordach !g "banned iPhone 5S promo" 18:42 MinetestBot Jordach: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzG4BcaK064 18:42 Jordach Peacock, ^ 18:43 Peacock meh, my cell contract ends in a few months, after that im getting a dumbphone :P 18:43 Jordach y u no blackberry 18:43 Peacock theyre shit lol 18:43 Jordach Peacock, canadian, i thought you'd love to support the local economy 18:43 [0gb_us] I'll stick with landlines, myself. 18:43 Peacock whether its a blackberry, iphone or android device, it's all made in china 18:45 Peacock and blackberries are to smartphones what palmpilots are to tablets :P 18:46 Jordach they do the same job without "app" bs 18:46 Jordach modern iPod (classics) even have pojntless apps 18:46 Peacock well a dumbphone can take calls and do text msgs, and without a complicated OS on top, so longer battery life 18:46 * Jordach uses an iPod for music, not games 18:47 * [0gb_us] uses his laptop for music and games 18:47 Jordach and it's not the next best thing™ 18:47 Peacock i dont really care if my phone can check my emails and wipe my ass for me, so long as i can carry it around without a charger lol 18:47 Jordach [0gb_us], i don't mind laptops for that purpose 18:48 [0gb_us] My laptop handles all my tech needs besides server hosting and phone calls./ 18:49 * Jordach doesn't like laptops 18:49 Exio4 laptops are k 18:49 Exio4 desktops > laptops though 18:49 [0gb_us] Jordach, that promo is ... a little scary. I don't want someone cutting off my thumb. 18:50 Jordach if that fan sucks in anything that fits through the grating, it will possibly overheat the laptop and might start fires 18:50 * Jordach has had that 18:50 [0gb_us] Desktops hurt my wrists to use and are far less portable. Though laptops do have disadvantages as well as advantages. 18:51 Jordach really, hurt your wrists, man, by the amount i use my tower i'm surpised i don't have RSI 18:51 Jordach hey Uberi 18:51 Exio4 you can't have watercooling with a laptop can you? 18:51 Jordach having a nice hail storm 18:51 Exio4 inb4 portable pump 18:52 Uberi Jordach: today was 11 degrees 18:52 Jordach oh 18:52 Uberi I don't understand this weather 18:52 Jordach but jesus; i'd head inside if they came down again 18:53 Uberi hail out of the blue on a 33 degree day 18:53 Jordach yay for celscius 18:53 * Jordach doesn't like farenheit 18:54 [0gb_us] Indeed. Stupid United Statsians using their own measurement system. Why not use the world standard? 18:54 * Jordach suggests kelvin 18:54 * Uberi suggests rankine 18:54 [0gb_us] Kelven isn't the world standard though. 18:54 [0gb_us] Neither is Rankine. 18:55 * Uberi suggests newton-fathom-horsepower 18:55 * Jordach changes internal reactor core 18:55 Jordach it's old (i change that thing monthly) 18:56 Jordach i'm essentially battery powered :P 18:56 us-0gb I was right. This account isn't treated the same by IRC as us_0gb. So my cloak is wrong about who I am. My cloak makes me an imposter! 18:56 Jordach \o/ 18:56 [0gb_us] (us_0gb is my real account.) 18:57 ShadowNinja [0gb_us]: Normally they add /x-123456 After your cloak if you have chars like - that arean't supported in cloaks. 18:58 [0gb_us] Oh .... So underscores are not supported in cloaks but dashes are? 18:58 Prestotron562 [deleted] 18:58 [0gb_us] Hello! 18:59 * Jordach picks NekoGloop up and pets him 18:59 [0gb_us] I feel like less of an impostor in that case then, ShadowNinja. 18:59 * NekoGloop flails around >w< 18:59 Prestotron562 [deleted] 18:59 Jordach who's our little kitty :3 19:00 ShadowNinja Yes. 19:00 NekoGloop me? :3 19:04 * NekoGloop continues flailing around helplessly >w< 19:05 * john_minetest gives <*(((< to NekoGloop 19:05 * [0gb_us] dangles a string a little ways away, just out of reach, and jiggles it 19:05 Peacock this cat stuff is getting creepy :P 19:05 * NekoGloop noms the fishy 19:05 * NekoGloop tries batting at the string 19:05 Peacock even my cat can be creepy - everytime i shower or use the can, she comes in, sits and stares XD 19:06 [0gb_us] Draw the curtain if you don't want your cat to see you. 19:06 Peacock its a semi transparent shower curtain lol 19:07 [0gb_us] Hmm. Well, I don't care if my cat sees me. She's just a cat. 19:07 Peacock she's also an excellent alarm clock - every morning around 8 she hops into bed and licks our faces until we wake up 19:08 [0gb_us] Aw. I wish mine did that. But no, I have to use an alarm application on my laptop. 19:08 Peacock im bad with actual alarm clocks - tend to get up, turn it off, and not remember doing it lol 19:11 Peacock the only solution was to get one of those complicated alarm apps that makes you answer math to turn it off lol 19:11 [0gb_us] Ha ha, nice. I've never heard of those. 19:12 Peacock i think it was an adroid app, tho i might be wrong 19:14 [0gb_us] I've never used an Android. If i were to get a smart phone, I think I'd want this $800 USD one I saw. But of course, I don't have that kind of money. 19:14 [0gb_us] john_minetest, that's what the math is for. 19:14 Calinou $800 on a phone? 19:15 * NekoGloop continues flailing around in Jordach's hands 19:15 Peacock hitting the snooze isn't nearly as bad as working nights and falling asleep on the bus ride home - woke up downtown quite a few times lol 19:15 LinuxGuy2020 Ok so creative mode. This is for allowing you to spawn blocks or something to build a world without collecting resources? 19:16 Peacock yes 19:16 Calinou it allows you to get _most_ blocks from inventory 19:16 Calinou unlimited 19:16 Calinou typically, flying and moving fast is also allowed but depends on server 19:16 LinuxGuy2020 Is there a wiki page for how to do that? 19:16 [0gb_us] The phone is as powerful as a desktop computer. And if you plug in a keyboard and mouse, it acts like one. It tri-boots Ubuntu Descktop, Ubuntu Touch, and Android. Not to mention that it has a screen so hard only diamonds and harder than diamond things can scratch it. 19:16 Peacock unlimited nodes! http://goo.gl/talDu0 19:17 Peacock john this one time i fell asleep, i did the whole "trajet" (english?) twice before being woken lol 19:17 Calinou trajet = trip? 19:18 Calinou [0gb_us]: ubuntu edge is dead 19:18 Calinou also, marketing 19:18 Calinou "Not to mention that it has a screen so hard only diamonds and harder than diamond things can scratch it." 19:18 Calinou will never happen 19:18 [0gb_us] Oh, dead? Too bad. Awesome phone. 19:18 Peacock yeah trip/route 19:18 Uberi sapphire is still quite vulnerable to shattering, unfortunately 19:18 Peacock twice the round trip lol 19:18 Calinou and also very expensive 19:19 [0gb_us] That's the first cell phone I ever actually wanted. Normally I find them to be a nuisance. 19:24 [0gb_us] Still, a device as powerful as a desktop computer but as portable as a hand-held device? You can't blame me for drooling over it. 19:25 Exio4 [15:57:36] [0gb_us]: Normally they add /x-123456 After your cloak if you have chars like - that arean't supported in cloaks. 19:25 Calinou not as powerful at all 19:25 Calinou ARM is focusing on power saving, it won't be as powerful as a low end desktop CPU for years 19:25 Exio4 aren't supported = non-dns chars 19:25 Exio4 like / 19:25 Exio4 Calinou: it will be 19:26 ShadowNinja Exio4: I know. 19:26 Prestotron562 [deleted] 19:26 Calinou not in the next years, if you compare of the low end desktop CPUs of the next years 19:26 Calinou I mean in heavy use 19:26 Calinou eg. compiling 19:27 [0gb_us] I asked for fsf/member/0gb.us, which would be supported. But I guess since I can't have a dot in my IRc name, they wouldn't give me a dot in my cloak name. Not that it really matters, but just saying. 19:27 Prestotron562 [deleted] 19:27 Calinou lol, FSF member 19:27 [0gb_us] In what way is that funny? I don't get it. 19:29 proller Calinou, arm already usable as desktop 19:29 Calinou yes and no 19:32 STHGOM Morrolan: was i talking to you a couple days ago about changing the players tag, and then you said you were interested? 19:33 Jordach proller, ARM sucks for Blender use 19:33 Jordach (no OpenCL, no accelerated 3D) 19:33 Peacock Peacock.beer() Peacock.start_tinfoil_hat_mode() end :P 19:34 Jordach Jordach.insert_new_reactor_core() Jordach.reactor_power_test(full) 19:34 [0gb_us] "full" 19:34 Jordach full takes 1-4 hours 19:35 Jordach minimal is 20 mins 19:35 Peacock lets hope jordach doesn't pull a fukushima :P 19:36 Jordach Peacock, if it fails, i dump 7 boron rods straight in there (one through the middle) and hexagonal outside 19:37 Peacock ugh, gotta fix the towel rack, who installs a towel rack without anchors? lol 19:37 [0gb_us] People with no construction skills. 19:38 Peacock doesn't explain the popularity of ikea and DIY lol 19:39 Peacock stove hut is falling off too, they only put 2 of the 6 screws required lol 19:39 ShadowNinja [0gb_us]: Isn't this a internal-only setting? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/768 19:40 Peacock github is slow today 19:40 Peacock is it slow for anyone else? 19:41 [0gb_us] Won't load. Did I put the setting in the wrong section of the doc, or is it something else? 19:41 ShadowNinja Just stopped for me too. *waits for status.github.com to update...* 19:42 [0gb_us] If you want to pull to the correct part of the doc, I'll take mine down. 19:42 ShadowNinja Internal Server Error <-- Well that wasn't the update I was waiting for... 19:42 Peacock mine got stuck on fastfly.net whatever github pulls from there 19:43 [0gb_us] Is there someone here who's fluent in Minetest's C++ and wouldn't mind helping a novice figure out what src/mapblock.cpp does and why it is hardcoded to use three nodes from default? 19:43 Peacock good luck, id need a flowchart to figure how each of the files relate to eachother lol 19:44 ShadowNinja [0gb_us]: I beleive drawtypes are managed in there... 19:45 [0gb_us] I came accross the issue last night, when I was greping to see if there were any mapgen aliases I didn't know about. It turned out I missed three, and two don't even have the "mapgen_" prefix. 19:45 proller Jordach, its blender sucks ;) but arm now not for high-cpu-use tasks 19:45 [0gb_us] So three default nodes have hacks to manage their drawtypes? 19:46 ShadowNinja [0gb_us]: What nodes? 19:47 ShadowNinja Ah, found them... 19:48 [0gb_us] default:stone, default:stone_with_iron, and default:stone_with_coal. It sort of looks like an ore-placing deal, but I'm fairly certain they took that out of C++. 19:48 Menche migrating my server's map to leveldb is going to take 100 mins at its current rate. 19:48 Menche what kind of hacks? aren't those just normal node drawtypes? 19:49 [0gb_us] Menche, I see. Big map? 19:49 [0gb_us] I don't know what the code does, so I'm not sure. 19:49 ShadowNinja [0gb_us]: It looks like it is for loading legacy MapBlocks that stored the ore(if any) in the param1 of stone. 19:49 [0gb_us] All I know is that those nodes are requested by name, not alias, in C++. 19:50 Menche lets see, map is 1.5G in sqlite3 19:50 Menche not the biggest ever 19:50 [0gb_us] Storing ore in the param1? Okay, thank you very much, ShadowNinja! 19:50 jojoa1997 Hi 19:50 [0gb_us] Hello! 19:51 [0gb_us] I'll just ignore that section of the code then. It sounds like legacy support. 19:51 ShadowNinja Yep, legacy support code. 19:51 Peacock i think i still have the legacy mod lol 19:51 * ShadowNinja is at 1.2G now... 19:52 ShadowNinja Peacock: Legacy mod? 19:52 Menche still migrating at about 1% a minute 19:52 * Menche goes to get lunch while it converts 19:53 [0gb_us] It's in the default game. It's called "legacy" or something. 19:53 [0gb_us] It handles the rat and such. 19:53 ShadowNinja Ah. 19:56 Peacock dunno, it's just called 'legacy' 19:56 Peacock ah, roughly 60 aliases 19:57 Peacock (just looked at it) 19:57 Peacock i think it was probably written for the transition to lua default mod 20:03 LinuxGuy2020 Is the server config file the same as the one used in single player if not specified? 20:04 [0gb_us] Yeah, it is. 20:04 [0gb_us] Which is why you should specify it. 20:04 LinuxGuy2020 Ok 20:04 LinuxGuy2020 Well its a dedicated home server so I just wanted to add creative mode to it. 20:05 [0gb_us] I've had my server accedentally go into creative mode after having tested some new nodes in creative mode single player several times before I started specifying a separate conf. 20:05 [0gb_us] Oh, okay, got it. 20:05 [0gb_us] Yeah, just edit the main minetest.conf file and restart. That should work. 20:07 LinuxGuy2020 Hmm I dont see there yet. Whats the easiest way to get a default conf file? 20:08 LinuxGuy2020 Copy one over from a client machine to start with? 20:08 [0gb_us] I don't know, but if you want the default settings plus creative mode, make a blank one and add "creative_mode = true" or whatever the creative mode line is. 20:08 [0gb_us] The rest will be all the defaults. 20:09 LinuxGuy2020 Oh ok cool thanks 20:09 [0gb_us] Yeah, no problem. 20:15 ShadowNinja Sokomine: It seems travelnets and elevators aren't really deleted. I have a bunch of ["xxx,zzz"] = { } and ["test"] = { } in my travelnet file. 20:15 LinuxGuy2020 free_move = true (Does that enable flying?) 20:16 [0gb_us] It enables flying for the local player if and only if they have the fly privilege. It's a client setting. 20:16 LinuxGuy2020 ok 20:16 LinuxGuy2020 Whats the server equivalent for flying enabled? 20:16 ShadowNinja LinuxGuy2020: Grant everyone 'fly'. (default_privs or so) 20:17 LinuxGuy2020 Gotcha 20:17 [0gb_us] default_privs = fly, shout, interact 20:17 [0gb_us] But that only effects NEW accounts. You'll need to update old accounts, possibly manually. 20:17 [0gb_us] You could write code for it if you prefer. 20:17 LinuxGuy2020 ok cool 20:19 jojoa1997 [0gb_us} yuor server fixed? 20:20 [0gb_us] Fixed as in not slow? No, it's still slow. Fixed as in something else? How is it broken? 20:21 jojoa1997 slowness 20:22 [0gb_us] Yeah, still slow. 20:22 Menche map migration 36% completed... 20:24 * jojoa1997 done with overcraft armor textures 20:24 [0gb_us] I just finished my dirt texture. I must say, it's not as good as the default dirt, but it's not as bad as I had feared it would be. 20:25 Menche if my singleplayer world converted completely, the leveldb map is quite a bit smaller than sqlite3 20:26 Menche map.db = 8.4M, map.sqlite = 17M 20:27 [0gb_us] Nice! 20:27 [0gb_us] I wish I could use that for my world. It seems LevelDB isn't for PowerPC. 20:28 Menche powerpc? you're running it on an old mac? 20:29 Peacock menche dont tell that to PA, he doesn't seem to like leveldb :P 20:29 Menche why not? 20:29 Peacock i have no idea lol but he got irate when i and another mentioned it was faster 20:29 PilzAdam Menche, thx for highlighting me :-p 20:29 Menche me? 20:30 PilzAdam eh, Peacock 20:30 Peacock but i wrote PA so you wouldn't be pinged :/ 20:30 PilzAdam hehe 20:30 Peacock does irc have aliases too? 20:30 Peacock well sorry to ping you, i dont wanna start up a debate over leveldv :P 20:31 Peacock *leveldb 20:31 Peacock from now on ill say pulseaudio :P 20:31 Menche PA stop breaking everyone's sound configuration! 20:32 Peacock was it ogb or nekogloop that talked with me about leveldb yesterday? 20:33 jojoa1997 player:get_inventory():set_stack("main", j, "compass:"..compass_image) 20:33 jojoa1997 what does the j mean 20:33 Peacock j-dawg :P 20:37 Menche my server map apparently has roughly 2 million blocks 20:37 Peacock small map? 20:37 [0gb_us] Menche, yes, the hardware is an old Mac. The software is Ubuntu. 20:37 [0gb_us] Ubuntu Server, not Desktop. 20:38 Menche looks like there may be a leveldb build in debian sid 20:38 Menche powerpc that is 20:38 [0gb_us] Debian doesn't like the machine though. 20:39 [0gb_us] On Debian, the wired Ethernet connection keeps going out. 20:39 STHGOM bye 20:39 [0gb_us] Bye. 20:39 Peacock really? me its wireless that doesn't work with network-manager lol 20:39 [0gb_us] Debian also doesn't like my laptop's Ethernet or my Laptop's graphics card. 20:40 [0gb_us] But the PowerPC server is wired. 20:40 Peacock debian also doesn't like the collada plugin XD 20:40 Peacock *crosses fingers for a libre-free-debian* 20:40 Menche could probably install debian packages on ubuntu. they both use dpkg, after all. 20:41 Peacock thats a debian free of the fake freedom loving crowd lol 20:41 Menche isn't debian libre by default? 20:41 [0gb_us] Yes, they do. I might look into that when time allows. 20:41 Peacock debian is FSF free, trisquel is libre 20:41 Menche thought that all nonfree packages in debian were moved to repos that aren't enabled by default. 20:42 Menche and the FSF still isn't satisfied :P 20:42 [0gb_us] I want Trisquel, but it feels similarly about my hardware as Debian, but more extreme. 20:42 Peacock any sane OS would leave it all in and let the user decide (isn't it supposed to be about the user's freedom) 20:42 Menche isn't trisquel ubu based? 20:42 [0gb_us] The problem is having the non-free repos at all. 20:42 [0gb_us] It is, yes. 20:43 Peacock open source devs write software, the libre crowd disables parts of it, pretty much how it goes lol 20:43 [0gb_us] Oddly enough, the FSF created Debian, yet Debian doesn't continue to fill their needs. 20:43 Peacock no wonder there's a split in the movement 20:44 [0gb_us] The "open source" crowd isn't making the whole thing free. That's not the libre crowd's fault. 20:44 [0gb_us] Free as in freedom, not price. 20:44 Menche apparently the FSF's problem with debian is that "people can readily learn about [the nonfree repos]" and "the repository is hosted on many of the project's main servers". 20:44 Peacock open source is a reasonable approach, libre isn't (imo) 20:45 [0gb_us] Yes. It's the non-free repos that are the issue. 20:45 Menche can't even offer the alternative of proprietary software if you want the FSF to like you. 20:45 [0gb_us] Non-free yet official debian repos. 20:45 Peacock open source can do alot of awesome things, but it can't do *everything* as good as prop. 20:45 Peacock well the FSF and RMS are more or less irrelevant, they dont write much code, they just generate hot air 20:46 Peacock and with greenhouse gases being a major issue, something should be done about them XD :P 20:46 [0gb_us] It could if more people were on board. Free is inherently more powerful. It allows us to build off the past and not re-invent the wheel fifty times. 20:46 Peacock depends how you see freedom 20:46 Peacock for libre, its freedom from prop. software 20:46 Peacock for opensource, its the freedom to choose the best tool for the job 20:47 Peacock i usually go with the one that doesn't limit my options 20:47 [0gb_us] If proprietary people invent something, the next proprietary people must reinvent the same thing if they want to have it. Not so with free code. 20:47 Menche not all the time with free code. 20:48 [0gb_us] If free code can't be reused, it's not really free code at all. 20:48 Peacock well you can't live in a purely libre world, many of the professional devs who give their time to opensource wouldn't be devs in such a world 20:48 Menche for example, the linux kernel doesn't have zfs support because of some clash between the GPL and zfs' s licence iirc 20:48 Menche both are some kind of open source 20:49 [0gb_us] If ZFS is non-free, it's ZFS's issue. Open source does not always involve freedom. There is a difference. 20:49 Peacock all in all, OSS/FS used to be quite reasonable until RMS rewrote the GPL so it came to be described as the "GPL virus" 20:49 [0gb_us] I'll have to look into that. 20:49 * jojoa1997 testing the ability to have 2 types of hands at once 20:50 Menche the GPL would be a great license if everyone used it. Not everyone does, so it causes licensing problems. 20:51 Menche s/great/better/ 20:51 [0gb_us] That's the problem: people want to use proprietary licenses. 20:51 Peacock companies that need to make money can't use it :P 20:51 Menche i prefer the MIT/X license 20:51 Menche Peacock, you can technically sell GPL code 20:51 Peacock not everyone can squat at MIT like RMS does 20:52 Peacock the minute you sell the code your transferring copyright and the new owner can relicense, the libre crowd would still be up in arms 20:52 [0gb_us] Companies can make money other ways, such as selling the game content in the case of games, while making the code free. As for things such as document editors, there's not really a good way to make money off of them. 20:52 Menche there are commercial linux distributions like Red Hat Enterprise 20:53 Peacock all i knows is, so long as a significant enough portion of the free crowd insists on everything being free, companies will never take it seriously 20:53 ShadowNinja I beleive ID does something like this. 20:53 Menche linux is free but gets plenty of commercial support 20:53 Menche lots of big companies contribute to the kernel 20:54 Peacock yeah because it brings the price of windows down and limits MS's power 20:54 [0gb_us] All I know is that if users refuse to use proprietary software, companies won't be writing it, as they won't have any customers. 20:54 Peacock that will never happen 20:54 [0gb_us] Windows is awful, with or without freedom and with or without cost. 20:54 Menche agreed. 20:55 Peacock most people, workers and home users alike, just need something that works, they don't have time to give a shit if their graphics drivers are completely free or not 20:55 [0gb_us] ubuntu just works, and Windows just doesn't. Ubuntu isn't free, but that's not really the point here. 20:55 Peacock its not like everyone has the luxury sit around IRC all day discussing the merits of free vs. proprietary lol 20:55 Menche one of my teachers was demonstrating something with a piece of FOSS software, and whenever he had a problem he'd say something like "that's what you expect from open source. purchased software is better tested." 20:56 Peacock menche well there is a difference, companies care if you don't plan on using their future versions 20:56 Peacock some (not all) oss devs are like "fuck you, its free" 20:57 Peacock if youre trying to run a business, you can't have that kind of response 20:57 Peacock nor does a business-owner (of any size) have the time to fix the bugs themselves 20:57 Peacock thats why i prefer the middle-way :P 20:58 jojoa1997 is it possible to set a node for the players hand with set_stack? 21:00 Peacock not really 21:00 Peacock youd have to know which selection (1-8) theyre on 21:01 [0gb_us] Peacock, you mentioned that some free licenses are incompatible with GPL, right? 21:01 [0gb_us] Do you have any examples? 21:02 Menche certain variants of the BSD license are 21:02 Menche believe one has a clause about advertising that clashes in some way 21:03 [0gb_us] GPL disallows advertising? Or BSD-variant does? 21:03 Evergreen If anyone remembers, I'm back from my surgery! \ 21:04 Menche iirc one of the BSD licenses requires you give credit for every contributer in any piece of advertising. forget the details. 21:04 [0gb_us] Yay! I missed it. WHat were you in surgery for? 21:04 Evergreen Ankle growth correction, my ankles were tilting outwards, and I had plates put in to stop the outside of my ankle from growing 21:05 [0gb_us] Hmm. That doesn't seem like giving credit would be disallowed in GPL ... 21:05 [0gb_us] Ah, how'd that go? Are your ankles fine now? 21:06 Menche wikipedia: "[the GPL] does not allow the addition of restrictions beyond those it already imposes" 21:07 Menche lists the old 4-clause BSD license as GPL incompatible 21:07 AWTom http://xkcd.com/978/ 21:07 * sfan5 just wrote a design document for a reliable and fast key-value flatfile database 21:08 Menche for another map saving backend? 21:08 Evergreen Yeah, I'm fine, thanks for caring. :P 21:08 sfan5 yes 21:10 Peacock ogb not sure where i said GPL was incompatible with free licenses, though it is nearly useless for most commercial endeavours 21:10 Peacock evergreen, operation? are you now, a complete woman? :P 21:11 Evergreen No, lol 21:11 Evergreen x) 21:11 Peacock just kidding :P 21:12 AWTom dial-up 21:13 AWTom interesting 21:13 sfan5 good night everyone 21:13 Peacock dial up? *checks the calendar* naw were not back in the 90s 21:13 us_0gb Hmm? That was odd. A break in the connection, then I lost my name. Whatever though. 21:13 us_0gb I see you over there, [0gb_us]. 21:14 AWTom the person on dial-up d/c'd 21:14 Peacock lol aaaaaaaaaaand he's gone 21:14 Peacock (again) 21:15 us_0gb I didn't lose my connection to two other networks though, so I can only assume the issue is on Freenode's end. 21:16 Peacock first github and now freenode lol 21:16 AWTom The internet is experiencing rolling blackouts. 21:17 Guest55739 Does anyone know why someone would not be able to connect to my server useing rembo 21:18 Guest55739 remobo* 21:18 Menche are you on each other's "buddy list"? 21:18 us_0gb Maybe they don't have or know how to use Remobo? 21:18 Guest55739 Yeap 21:18 Guest55739 Nope, they do 21:19 Guest55739 Menche, I can add ya and you can test it 21:19 Guest55739 So we know its my end 21:19 Menche you're using the IP from mousing over the other's entry on the "buddy list"? 21:19 Guest55739 Nope, the one on mine 21:19 Guest55739 the numbers under menu 21:20 Menche is there a debug.txt file? it might be the server not remobo 21:20 Guest55739 they cant even get passed "conecting" 21:21 Guest55739 like its not even on 21:21 Guest55739 I will check the debug 21:21 Guest55739 Nope 21:21 Menche i had problems connecting to my own server (direct-connect). I couldn't really figure out what was wrong. 21:22 Guest55739 Please don't leave me hanging lol 21:22 Menche try adding "debug_log_level = 4" to your minetest.conf and see if it makes a debug file 21:22 Guest55739 I have a debug file 21:23 Guest55739 I mean, theirs nothingin it 21:23 Guest55739 about this problem 21:23 Guest55739 nothing in* 21:24 Menche argh, remobo is segfaulting 21:24 Guest55739 Would you like to add me? 21:24 Guest55739 You can delete me after 21:25 Guest55739 Just to see if its my end or remobo 21:25 Menche try adding "debug_log_level = 4" to your minetest.conf and see if anything is put in 21:25 Guest55739 ok 21:25 Menche sorry, i can't get remobo to work 21:26 Guest55739 I put it in 21:26 Guest55739 Should I restart my minetest client now 21:26 Menche yeah, and make sure that stays in minetest.conf (the client may overwrite it on shutdown) 21:26 Guest55739 okay 21:27 Guest55739 Okay, I am having someone try now 21:27 Guest55739 to log in 21:28 Guest55739 Nope 21:28 Guest55739 They cant get in 21:29 Guest55739 I don't get anything either 21:29 Guest55739 No popus noties nothing 21:29 Guest55739 pop ups* 21:29 Menche is there a file called "debug.txt"? 21:29 Guest55739 yes 21:29 Menche is there anything in that file? 21:30 Guest55739 Not about this 21:30 Guest55739 I am going try to unistall 21:30 Guest55739 and reinstall 21:30 Guest55739 What else can I do 21:30 Menche what OS? 21:30 Guest55739 Vista 21:30 Menche official build? 21:31 Guest55739 windows 21:31 Guest55739 yea 21:31 Menche guess you could try one of the more recent 3rd party dev builds 21:31 Guest55739 hang on 21:32 Menche i'll try something on my server when this map finishes converting... any second now... 21:34 Guest55739 brb 21:43 Menche anyone understand what this is? http://pastebin.com/6d5n5BFd 21:44 us_0gb I have no idea what that is. 21:44 Menche that is what my server is still continually outputing after i quit my client while connecting. 21:45 Menche i *think* the server may still be trying to communicate with the client 21:46 Menche wait, someone else logged on 21:47 Menche im not announcing... 21:47 Menche it seems i can connect to my private address but not my public one 21:48 Menche although i could connect to the public one once 21:48 us_0gb THat's odd. I connect to both the public and private address with little issue. 21:48 us_0gb Bye. 21:48 us_0gb (On mine, I mean.) 21:50 Menche wonder what MinetestBot thinks 21:50 Menche !up menche.us 21:50 MinetestBot menche.us:30000 is up (586ms) 21:50 Jordach VanessaE_, you about 21:50 VanessaE_ am I about what? ;) 21:51 Jordach you know the mod with the carbon diamond pick, which mod is that 21:51 VanessaE_ I think that's dan's prefab md 21:51 VanessaE_ mod 21:51 jojoa1997 !up 0gb.us 21:51 MinetestBot 0gb.us:30000 is up (484ms) 21:51 us_0gb Up, but slow. 21:52 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:52 jojoa1997 !up 170.0.0.1 21:52 MinetestBot 170.0.0.1:30000 seems to be down 21:52 Guest55739 WOOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT 21:52 Guest55739 I got it 21:52 Menche !up localhost 21:52 MinetestBot Menche: Invalid Address 21:52 Menche !up 127.0.0.1 21:52 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:30000 is up (104ms) 21:52 VanessaE_ (I should remove those carbon tools, they're vastly overpowered from what I'm told) 21:52 us_0gb Hmm. It looks like [0gb_us] left, so I can take my name back. 21:53 Guest55739 Menche 21:53 Guest55739 I could kiss you 21:53 Menche ? 21:53 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:53 Guest55739 Always helping me and others 21:53 VanessaE_ Menche getting anonymous kisses? :) 21:53 Guest55739 I finnaly got it 21:53 Guest55739 I am happy now 21:53 Guest55739 Anyway.......... 21:53 [0gb_us] He was helping fix Remobo or something. 21:53 Guest55739 I am off to see the wizard 21:53 Guest55739 See yall 21:53 [0gb_us] Bye! 21:53 Jordach VanessaE_, NOPE 21:54 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:54 Menche nope 21:54 VanessaE_ such may be accepted, if you're extremely lucky 21:54 Menche at least there hasn't been a commit for over a month in minetest_game (except one commit that corresponded to a commit in the engine) 21:55 Prestotron562 [deleted] 21:55 VanessaE_ Jordach: well at any rate they're one of Dan's mods. 21:55 Peacock towel rack fixed (XP +100) 21:55 Jordach VanessaE_, TBM+ 21:55 Peacock now for the stove fan thingy 21:56 VanessaE_ oh yes 21:57 jojoa1997 what is the best visual compiler for windows 21:57 Prestotron562 [deleted] 22:00 [0gb_us] Gotta' go to work. Bye! 22:00 proller Prestotron562, why you not in school again? 22:02 kahrl jojoa1997: Microsoft® Visual® Brainfuck® 22:05 Jordach Jordach.drop_the_muther_fuckin_bass(wub_wub_wub, 120) <- new API get! 22:05 Menche my client stuck at "Connecting to server..." 22:06 Menche for about a minute there was no related output on the server end, then it said "Menche times out." 22:06 Menche and the client is still stuck at "Connecting to server..." 22:06 Menche "Menche times out." was the only output on the server 22:07 VanessaE_ I've seen that happen on mine a couple of times too 22:07 Menche I've seen it on mine, but that was usually because the media download was taking long. Now it isn't even getting that far. 22:07 Menche Before, the server would say "username joins the game" or similar, then "username times out." later. 22:08 Menche now it only has the timeout message. 22:08 Jordach VanessaE_, /nick VanessaE 22:08 VanessaE_ too lazy :P 22:08 Jordach D: 22:09 VanessaE that's easier 22:09 Menche however, it works when I connect to my private address 22:09 * Jordach calls bullshit 22:09 VanessaE one click instead of having to open my passwords file. 22:10 Menche someone else has connected successfully to the public one, though 22:10 Menche unrelated: leveldb seems noticably faster 22:10 proller 12930 respawns on Sky server ;) 22:12 Menche now that i brought the old world up, i remember why i wanted to reset it 22:16 * Prestotron562 likes refreshing his twitter! 22:20 VanessaE Menche: just don't delete it. 22:20 VanessaE always keep all the old bits and pieces, you never know when you might need something from the old map. 22:26 Jordach proller, http://i.imgur.com/fbQZXuj.png 22:27 Jordach Evergreen, hello 22:27 Jordach how's the op? 22:27 proller Prestotron562, its reduces your noobity? 22:27 proller Jordach, what? 22:27 Peacock evergreen's a woman now :P 22:28 Jordach proller, BSD is apparently most paranoid 22:28 proller i'm use freebdsm 22:30 Evergreen Jordach: Sorry, for delayed response, it went fine 22:30 Jordach yay 22:37 Jordach hello paramat 22:37 paramat hi ;) 22:39 Jordach Peacock, i think this guy is looking for hacks https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=110215#p110215 22:40 Jordach paramat, i just had a render idea: me and you pimping out a tractor 22:40 paramat plol 22:40 Jordach and render part of the A140 22:41 paramat so i should make a paramat player skin ... it has to be done 22:41 Jordach paramat, can you use this skin as a base 22:41 Jordach http://sfan5.dyndns.org/upload/data/sam2.png 22:42 Jordach then it works fine in minetest as well as my render models 22:43 paramat ah yes thats the standard template, i have already made one or two ... 22:43 Jordach paramat, see the pink and white pixels? they control the mouth and teeth 22:44 paramat omg thats new to me 22:44 Jordach paramat, they only work in my own models however 22:45 paramat you just switch between the pixels to make it talk?# 22:45 Jordach http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/cave-render/ 22:45 Jordach http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/339/untitled.png <- bigger 22:46 paramat ah that is generated from a standard skin template? 22:46 Jordach paramat, bone controlled 22:46 Peacock jordach thats the post i was talking about earlier :P 22:47 Peacock weird, i think my server restarted on its own lol 22:48 * paramat reads logs 22:54 VanessaE *looks at ferns mod* 22:54 VanessaE do I add this to my server? :) 22:57 NekoGloopMkII http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4HkAM8g7kA 23:00 Jordach VanessaE, merge my mother fucking capes 23:00 Jordach i don't give two fucks about wield3d 23:00 VanessaE capes? 23:00 Jordach minetest_game pull 201 23:01 Jordach (hint, the cape is part of the actual player skin, no extra textures needed) 23:01 Jordach VanessaE, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBCBxHDcHvw 23:02 Jordach ^ provided by blockment 23:02 Jordach -t 23:02 VanessaE *reads* 23:02 VanessaE the cape in the skin file is a MC standard? 23:03 Jordach nope, my own 23:03 VanessaE oh 23:03 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109912#p109912 23:03 Jordach ^ how you do it 23:03 VanessaE bug someone who can actually merge it :-) 23:03 * Jordach pokes PilzAdam 23:03 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:04 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:04 Jordach cAPS lOCK mUCH 23:04 VanessaE all I could do is put it on my server, but I happen to like stu's models so :P 23:04 VanessaE get PilzAdam to merge and stu to update his models accordingly :P 23:04 Jordach VanessaE, already pm'd stu about the pull 23:04 VanessaE ok 23:06 VanessaE the capes are just decorative, or will they have some future use? 23:06 Jordach decorative 23:06 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:07 Jordach ^ doesnt understand how the engine works 23:07 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:09 Shadowfire If I have more then one version of textures for Minetest... how do I switch between them? 23:10 VanessaE put them into separate texture packs and use the texutre pack selector on the main menu 23:10 VanessaE texture* 23:12 Shadowfire is the pack selector and add-on? 23:12 proller Prestotron562, you cant nothing except flood 23:13 Jordach VanessaE, afaik, Shadowfire isn't using latest git 23:13 Jordach just remember tha 23:13 Jordach that* 23:13 Shadowfire It sez I am using 4.7 23:13 Jordach remember the damn 0. 23:13 Shadowfire ??? 23:13 Jordach the current version is 0.4.7 23:14 Peacock weird, i uncheck public, and people still login to my test map lol 23:14 Shadowfire Wow,,,really... you have to be that passionate about the 0???? 23:14 Shadowfire lol 23:14 Shadowfire nice 23:14 Jordach Shadowfire, every dev here likes being concise 23:14 jojoa1997 Sfan5 here? 23:14 Jordach nope. 23:14 Shadowfire I understand... May bad 23:15 VanessaE 4.7 doesn't exist. 23:15 Jordach ^ that too 23:15 VanessaE it's zero point four point seven 23:15 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:15 Peacock may bad, june good 23:15 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:15 Peacock its stardate 000.4.7 23:15 Jordach TBM+ supported! 23:15 Shadowfire Have mercy people ,,, long day ... just got off work... We will all live if I have a brain fart. 23:16 Shadowfire Let me fix it... 0.4.7 23:16 Peacock you get the version wrong again, and it's chemical castration for you 23:16 Shadowfire their... is that better :) 23:16 Shadowfire :P 23:16 Jordach yes. much better. 23:16 Peacock :P 23:16 Shadowfire :) 23:16 Shadowfire heheheh 23:16 Shadowfire nice 23:17 Shadowfire I love guys! :) 23:17 VanessaE heh 23:17 VanessaE their? 23:17 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:17 VanessaE ARRRGHHHHHH!!!!!! 23:17 VanessaE :) 23:17 Peacock dont start with the grammar, i spotted many mistakes :P 23:17 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:17 VanessaE they're is a more correct way to write "there", so their. 23:18 VanessaE (now I'm just busting on you :) ) 23:18 Shadowfire Yes,, please don't make me fix my grammer... we will be here all night...:( 23:18 Shadowfire :)\ 23:18 Shadowfire ;) 23:18 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:18 * Peacock watches as grammar nazies takes shadowfire to the umschlagplatz 23:19 Shadowfire lol 23:19 Shadowfire NOT THE GRAMMAR NAZIES.... "no soup for YOU!" 23:20 jojoa1997 Shadowfire "No soup for YOU!" or "...no soupd for YOU!" :P 23:20 Shadowfire Ooops... I just realized.. what I said up above,,, That was supposes to be "I love *you* guys!" 23:20 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:20 Peacock LOL 23:21 Shadowfire Man I am on a roll tonight of errors... 23:21 Peacock i wondered about that but didn't want to say anything lol 23:21 Shadowfire Number 5 is alive!!!!! FORWARD!!!!!forward!!!! 23:21 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:21 Shadowfire Yes I am extremely possitive that I ment "I love you guys" :) 23:22 Peacock only if they're packing XD 23:22 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:22 Shadowfire Gotcha! :) 23:22 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:23 Peacock presto you sure youre not wanking his chain? XD 23:23 Shadowfire Now that I have made every one laugh and smile at my expense. How is everyone? 23:23 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:23 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:24 Shadowfire kewl 23:24 jojoa1997 COOL! 23:24 Peacock thats a new one: [ServerThread]: Server: A mismatched client tried to connect 23:24 Shadowfire So looks like I will be pacman'ing the git on Arch... woohoo! 23:24 Peacock does aur actually work now? 23:24 Shadowfire I will be letting you know shortly :) 23:25 Peacock i gave up on archbang when packer stopped working lol 23:26 Peacock #! is awesome but missing shit in the repos because of the libretards is also giving me second thoughts 23:31 Peacock so, does aur work? lol 23:32 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:34 proller lol, you keep noobing 23:34 Shadowfire Sorry.. was check info on repos .. going to try it now 23:35 Shadowfire hmmm there is minetest-delta-git 20110710-2 and 23:35 Shadowfire minetest-git 20130623.f960c3b-1 23:35 Shadowfire and 23:36 Shadowfire minetest-jachoo-git 23:36 Shadowfire and 23:36 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:36 Shadowfire minetestpp 20120409-1 23:36 proller Prestotron562, all they stupid as you? 23:37 Evergreen Oh, be nice proller 23:37 Peacock lol 23:37 Evergreen Hi Wuzzy 23:37 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:37 proller Prestotron562, or you buy bots to amaze us? 23:38 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:38 Peacock cat fight! 23:38 proller like 0.1$ per folower = 15$ - your daily icecream money? 23:38 VanessaE hey, knock it off 23:38 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:39 proller you first. 23:39 Jordach \o/ 23:39 Shadowfire Wowzers! Everyone was so calm,,, then came the storm, 23:40 jojoa1997 ... 23:41 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:41 jojoa1997 _-~___-~___-~___-~``~__-~``~__-~``~__-~``~__~`````````````````````````````````````````` 23:42 proller Prestotron562, you miss. eleven. 23:42 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:42 VanessaE both of you stop it. 23:42 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:43 Evergreen Prestotron562: don't make fun of proller, he really knows what he is doing 23:43 Jordach \o/ 23:43 Shadowfire Okey-Dokey gents... hows about everyone put away their guns... lest we have real troubles... 23:43 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:44 Evergreen Alright, let's just forget this conversation. 23:44 jojoa1997 um why does no one care abvout my feelings? 23:44 jojoa1997 *about 23:44 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:45 jojoa1997 NO 23:45 Shadowfire I care Jojoa1997... VanessaE will give you a hug now. ;) 23:45 jojoa1997 How about everyon becomes friends? 23:45 proller i dont know coding and software, hardware, etc. 23:45 jojoa1997 lol 23:45 * Prestotron562 hugs Vanessa 23:45 Shadowfire lol 23:45 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:45 proller i know beer and smoke. and vodka. 23:46 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:46 jojoa1997 Shadowfire i like how you offer up VanessaE to comfort me on your behalf 23:46 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:46 jojoa1997 what if you are prescrinljkhfdgdf 23:46 Shadowfire grin... hey if it works.. let not knock it :) 23:46 proller Prestotron562, no. in game im only grief, better than Calinou 23:47 jojoa1997 i greif all the time 23:47 jojoa1997 ... 23:47 proller Prestotron562, no problem with light drugs. try it. 23:47 jojoa1997 in minecraft on AMPLIFIED biomes 23:47 Jordach Calinou once masterfully griefed sky hardcore 23:47 * jojoa1997 calls the police 23:47 jojoa1997 how 23:47 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:47 * VanessaE looks at Mossmanikin's grasses mod. Do I add this to my servers? 23:47 Jordach in mother russia, drugs smoke you 23:48 jojoa1997 Jorach what did Calinou pc user do? 23:48 Jordach jojoa1997, traxie's server? remember that 23:48 Shadowfire That was not very nice of you VanessaE... taking Op from yourself... you should be ashamed! give it back this very minute! :P 23:48 Jordach he successfully griefed that entire server 23:49 Peacock Prestotron562, no problem with light drugs. try it. 23:49 proller he destroys 8000+ blocks 23:49 Peacock shoulda seen the textual tong-lashing i got for enjoying alcohol :P 23:49 VanessaE lol 23:49 jojoa1997 long-lashing? 23:49 jojoa1997 wow 23:49 VanessaE tongue* 23:50 Shadowfire :) 23:50 jojoa1997 he destroys 8000+ blocks 23:50 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:50 jojoa1997 so he used tnt? 23:50 Shadowfire My minetest git is still building... yeehaw!!!!! 23:50 Peacock i suspected calinou was a griefer when i had a few players from Nice, France grief my server :p 23:50 jojoa1997 i am past 13 and have never tried drugs 23:50 jojoa1997 /ban jojoa1997 23:50 proller no, only wood pick 23:50 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:51 * Jordach often lights up the bong 23:51 Peacock you shouldn't do drugs at a young age 23:51 VanessaE I've smoked weed..that's about all. 23:51 Peacock wait until youre 16~18 23:51 jojoa1997 Peacock you shouldnt do drugs at all! 23:51 Shadowfire proller could you please pedal faster so my cpu will go faster... your slowing down on the bike.. faster faster please ... thx 23:51 jojoa1997 also Peacock that menas i should do drugs now 23:51 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:51 Peacock well i quit smoking weed but not because i wanted to, the suppliers simply all had bad shit lol 23:51 jojoa1997 ...if i want to be killed by my parents and thrown into jail 23:52 VanessaE you don't go to jail for smoking up, you go for selling/growing. 23:52 Peacock you cant get thrown into jail for a little weed 23:52 VanessaE (generally) 23:52 jojoa1997 Prestotron562 i am two out of three 23:52 Peacock vanessa you'd be surprised :P 23:52 jojoa1997 VanessaE you can 23:52 jojoa1997 if you have it 23:52 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:52 * jojoa1997 doesnt want a record 23:52 Jordach Fun fact: Concrete supported 23:53 Peacock when i was 17, i got "caught" a few times by cops rolling joints in parks and bus stops, they never did a thing 23:53 VanessaE you can, yes, except if you live in Colorado or Washington ;) 23:53 Peacock i didn't bullshit the cops either though, so that must have scored me a few points 23:53 * Prestotron562 goes to a coding school in Lincoln, Rhode Island 23:53 Shadowfire kewl 23:53 * jojoa1997 stalks Prestotron562 23:53 VanessaE Peacock: I think cops are starting to get tired of enforcing the bullshit laws 23:54 Peacock "what you doing?" "rolling a joint" "where you gonna smoke it?" "i thought we'd walk around" cop says good night and goes on with his duties 23:54 VanessaE hence most won't bug you anymore over a couple of doobies. 23:54 * Prestotron562 stares at jojoa1997 23:54 jojoa1997 Prestotron 562 what does the 562 mean? 23:54 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:54 * jojoa1997 stares at Prestotron562(Mr. Longest name ever for typing) 23:54 Peacock its only when civies start getting agressive with cops that they use whatever reason to take you down to the station 23:54 Shadowfire 5 years 6 days and 2 months .... 23:55 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:55 Peacock vanessae well i think cops have alot more on their plates than a few stoners lol 23:55 Shadowfire worth of a story right? 23:55 jojoa1997 the day he was thrown into jail for growing weed 23:55 VanessaE Peacock: exactly my poiny. 23:55 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:55 VanessaE point* 23:55 Evergreen jojoa1997: Just press tab, and it should auto complete the name for you 23:55 jojoa1997 Prestotron562, 23:55 jojoa1997 Evergreen, 23:55 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:55 jojoa1997 jojoa1997, 23:56 Shadowfire what is a poiny?? VanessaE ;) 23:56 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:56 jojoa1997 VanessaE 23:56 VanessaE Shadowfire: a pointy pony? :) 23:56 jojoa1997 lol 23:56 Peacock isn't that a unicorn? 23:56 Shadowfire I want one! 23:56 jojoa1997 what does typing V tehn pressing TAB do? 23:56 Peacock fine but you cant fuck it 23:56 jojoa1997 PilzAdam, 23:56 jojoa1997 Peacock, 23:56 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:57 Peacock lol 23:57 Peacock (the unicorn, not PA)_ 23:57 jojoa1997 Prestotron562, I think of testosterone when i read you name 23:57 Shadowfire Peacock: Well I certianly wouldn't want a unicorn for that reason.. but yaeh ok,,, 23:57 proller Prestotron562, spent another 3$ for bots? 23:57 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:57 Peacock the sheep mob might be more useful to you for that :P 23:57 jojoa1997 cause it sounds like that 23:57 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:58 Peacock testosterone? when i read his name i think prostates 23:58 Shadowfire Duh!!!! Broke it!!!!! Fix it!!!! Mr Peacock 23:58 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:58 Peacock like "Prostatetron" lol 23:58 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:58 Peacock then i think about doctors 23:58 jojoa1997 i sound your name like Pre-sto-dtor-on-562 23:58 Shadowfire that's *doh!!! 23:58 Peacock i still wont let them do *that* exam 23:58 Shadowfire not duh 23:58 Peacock heck i wont even let anyone wag a finger in my face, nevermind... 23:59 Prestotron562 [deleted] 23:59 VanessaE proller, Prestotron562, stop it. 23:59 VanessaE take your argument to /msg or email or something. 23:59 Shadowfire alright Mr. Peacock,, now turn your head to the right and cough,,,