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00:48 Smelly Okay Xiong I am on IRC what did you have to tell me that you cant ingame chat
00:49 xiong Smelly, we can discuss anything in ingame chat, in theory. But it doesn't work very well; which makes the discussion chaotic.
00:49 xiong Let me suggest that we talk about Vazon's server in irc.linuxgaming.us #vazon, since I don't know of a better channel. Where we're at isn't great for server-specific discussion.
00:49 Smelly Ah I see. It can go flying by sometimes
00:50 Smelly I was in #vazon and #Vazon
00:50 Smelly no one was in their
00:51 xiong ???
00:51 Smelly My bad
00:51 Smelly I was on wrong irc
00:51 Smelly ok I am their now
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01:06 paramat Lua voxel manipulator version of flatten mod is here for testing http://www.mediafire.com/download/yn​41ydz92y6lrpw/flatten040paramat.zip
01:06 paramat I can't test it, error messages are welcome :)
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01:12 Inocudom How many of you have tried out Hybrid Dog's sumph mod? It adds swamps to Minetest.
01:13 PilzAdam its sumpf, not sumph
01:19 Inocudom How many of you have tried out sumpf?
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01:26 khonkhortisan What mod has quarter-slab stairs?
01:26 PilzAdam bye
01:27 STHGOM is it possible to attach an entity to a player?
01:27 khonkhortisan the player is attached to an entity when you are riding in a cart
01:27 khonkhortisan but idk
01:28 STHGOM im thinking an entity with a name on it: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4846
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01:30 STHGOM hi
01:30 [0gb_us] Hello!
01:31 Inocudom The swamp and mushroom mods by Hybrid Dog are very good mods.
01:32 [0gb_us] Does anyone here know why the stairs register function prefixes nodes with "stairs:" instead of "<current plugin name>:"? Always prefixing with "stairs:" negates the good of the namespace. If, for example, three different plugins want to register a concrete slab, the first two will be overwritten.
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01:33 [0gb_us] G'night!
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01:33 STHGOM night
01:33 Prestotron562 [deleted]
01:33 Inocudom oOChainLynxOo made a new Minetest video recently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgHW7nnRkdg&amp;fea​ture=c4-overview&amp;list=UUGBOAQUgqCUtDA-4L4mHVzA
01:34 khonkhortisan [0gb_us], then load that node and only override a part of it. A function to do this should really be added to minetest.
01:34 [0gb_us] I want to pull request a couple optimizations to stairs, but I think someone wants to keep the incorrect prefix issue, which would get my pull request denied. If it's just going to be denied, I don't see a reason for me to make the pull request.
01:34 khonkhortisan Then make the changes only without changing the name?
01:35 * Prestotron562 is now asleep
01:35 * khonkhortisan is now awake
01:35 [0gb_us] khonkhortisan, that doesn't help, as there should be three DIFFERENT concrete slabs, one for each concrete plugin, but the current method only allows one concrete slab.
01:35 khonkhortisan that's a problem with concrete
01:35 [0gb_us] It's a problem with the slab register function.
01:36 khonkhortisan no
01:36 Inocudom Why so many versions of concrete anyway?
01:36 khonkhortisan if there was dirt from every mod, registering dirt stairs would force only one dirt
01:37 [0gb_us] The slab register function prefixes the node with "stairs:", when it should prifix with "concrete_a:", "concrete_b:", and "concrete_c:".
01:37 [0gb_us] Yes, and forcing one dirt would be a problem.
01:37 ShadowNinja [0gb_us]: Pull request it but have it make aliases stairs: --> modname: for a while.
01:37 [0gb_us] Concrete was only an example.
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01:38 [0gb_us] ShadowNinja, I'll do that. Once I get feedback from the pullers. As I said, I don't want to write the code if the pullers already plan to reject it.
01:38 STHGOM goodbye
01:39 [0gb_us] Goodbye.
01:39 khonkhortisan Let's say one concrete was liquid, and two were solid. The two solid ones should be merged into a single node, all concrete having the same texture, with stairs based on the solid one.
01:40 [0gb_us] khonkhortisan, the problem is that only the concrete STAIRS AND SLABS would be muged. The full concrete blocks would not be merged, so if you made stairs out of concrete_a full nodes, you'd end up with concrete_b slabs.
01:40 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: If you join Vanessa's server you will see that there are two different types of concrete, with different textures and uses.
01:43 Inocudom http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature​=player_detailpage&amp;v=Najx0elMupI
01:44 [0gb_us] I'd love to be able to call the functions from stairs in my new project, but if they are going to remain bugged, I suppose I'll have to include a working copy of the functions in my own scripts. It looks like I have to rewrite the functions either way.
01:44 Inocudom This video can be good inspiration for a peaceful mob type that can be kept as a pet and as a friend. Isn't it cute?
01:44 khonkhortisan concrete is concrete. It should have a single texture, a single node, a single set of stairs, and be supported by both mods. The problem is not with the stairs, it is only a result.
01:45 khonkhortisan If I made an acid that burned concrete, I would have this same problem.
01:45 Inocudom The video is of a drone carpenter bee that can't sting.
01:46 [0gb_us] If people want only a single type of concrete, they just won't install both types. But if they DO install both types, they should both WORK without a namespace clash.
01:47 [0gb_us] Your acid would only burn through one type of concrete full node, but all concrete slabs and stairs. That wouldn't make much sense.
01:47 Inocudom I think the different types of concrete have their own variation of texture in VanessaE's HDX texture packs.
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01:48 [0gb_us] They do, yes.
01:48 khonkhortisan if they are truly different, the nodename should be different as well, such as concrete_wet, concrete_gravelly
01:48 [0gb_us] Not if they were in different plugins ...
01:49 [0gb_us] If each plugin only has one type of concrete slab, it isn't going to add suffixes.
01:51 [0gb_us] Male carpenter bees have no stinger ... interesting.
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02:11 [0gb_us] I'll be back in about an hour. Later!
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03:10 imthescatguy hey
03:10 [0gb_us] Hello!
03:11 imthescatguy i just put a texture pack in the texture pack folder, how do i use it?
03:11 [0gb_us] Open the game (must be the dev version) and select the texture pack tab.
03:12 imthescatguy dev version?
03:12 khonkhortisan When you start minetest, does it have the tabs SinglePlayer|Client|Server|Settings|Texture Packs|Mods|Credits?
03:12 imthescatguy no
03:12 [0gb_us] The unstable one.
03:12 [0gb_us] So you can't do it in yours yet.
03:12 imthescatguy i got the 0.5.7
03:12 imthescatguy i mean
03:12 khonkhortisan hehe 57
03:12 imthescatguy 0.4.7
03:12 imthescatguy do i get the new one?
03:12 imthescatguy how
03:13 Inocudom Try the current development build by either sfan5, Fess, or BlockMen.
03:13 khonkhortisan Or attempt compiling
03:13 [0gb_us] 0.4.7 is the newest, but the texture pack feature is newer than the newest. You may have to compile it.
03:13 [0gb_us] Or try one of those builds.
03:13 imthescatguy im hetting the sfan version
03:14 khonkhortisan the tablesaw made me think I didn't have any quarter slabs
03:14 imthescatguy whats a tablesaw?
03:14 imthescatguy sorry im new
03:15 imthescatguy i put my texture pack folder in the textures folder
03:15 [0gb_us] It's something added by a plugin.
03:15 imthescatguy i mean the zip
03:15 [0gb_us] It's not in the main game.
03:15 imthescatguy but its not working
03:15 [0gb_us] Unzip it.
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03:16 imthescatguy thanks
03:17 [0gb_us] Any time.
03:23 VanessaE ShadowNinja: there are three, actually - technic, prefab, and "cement" in glooplocks.
03:23 VanessaE gloopblocks*
03:23 VanessaE which may as well be concrete also.
03:24 [0gb_us] THat's why we need to fix stairs ... or an example of why, anyway.
03:24 VanessaE afaik, only the prefab one lacks a connection to stairsplus/moreblocks (though it still has slabs/stairs I think)
03:25 VanessaE omg that an ordeal by the way... the previously-mentioned sewing hasn't begun yet...I just spent the last three hours making a dressform.
03:25 [0gb_us] Moreblocks doing it right (if it does it right, I haven't checked) is no excuse for the default to do it wrong.
03:25 VanessaE (Red Green would be proud, as I did it this way:  http://www.threadsmagazine.com/item/​3631/close-fit-duct-tape-dress-form )
03:26 [0gb_us] Duct tape has so many uses!
03:27 VanessaE should it move, but it doesn't?  WD-40!   Does it move and it shouldn't?  DUCT TAPE!
03:27 VanessaE :)
03:28 [0gb_us] VanessaE, I don't understand the L-system tree generation. Is this some sort of advanced tool, or is it something simple that I'm not getting?
03:28 VanessaE [0gb_us]: it's confusingly simple :)
03:28 [0gb_us] Confusingly simple, eh? I don't know whether to be relieved or worried.
03:29 VanessaE [0gb_us]: imagine you're a turtle.  You are given one of three operations:  Move forward (f and F), turn left/right (um, - and + I think), pitch up/down (& and ^)
03:29 VanessaE you start out looking straight up
03:29 [0gb_us] Turtle as in sea reptile?
03:29 VanessaE as in LOGO, the programming language of old.
03:29 [0gb_us] I have no idea what a turtle is then.
03:29 VanessaE but if you prefer, think of an airplane.
03:30 VanessaE four commands, excuse me.   move forward, yaw left/right, pitch up/down, or roll clockwise/counter-clockwise
03:30 khonkhortisan kturtle is a program that does logo
03:31 VanessaE move forward goes in 1m steps.  yaw/pitch/roll goes in N degree steps, where N = the "angle" parameter in your tree deg.
03:31 VanessaE def.*
03:31 khonkhortisan hey I've heard that WD-40/duct-tape one before
03:34 FreeFull VanessaE: I think WD-40 melts plastic
03:34 VanessaE FreeFull: no, but I wouldn't be surprised if it melts styrofoa
03:34 VanessaE styrofoam*
03:35 FreeFull Styrofoam is a plastic
03:35 VanessaE yep
03:35 VanessaE but a particular type
03:36 FreeFull Polystyrene
03:36 VanessaE stuff like model glue will melt it in short order, meanwhile the same stuff doesn't affect regular plastic nearly as much
03:36 VanessaE yep
03:36 VanessaE Styrofoam I think is a brand name
03:37 FreeFull It is
03:38 FreeFull The generic name is extruded polystyrene foam
03:50 khonkhortisan buildings melt cars
03:51 FreeFull The walkie talkie does
03:52 khonkhortisan as a generalization, communication devices destroy transportation devices
04:03 Inocudom This cute creature could be a good peaceful mob: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature​=player_detailpage&amp;v=Najx0elMupI
04:04 [0gb_us] That bee is interesting. I hadn't heard of stingerles bees before.
04:04 Inocudom Male carpenter bees can't sting. Only the females can.
04:05 [0gb_us] Yeah, Wikipedia told me that a bit ago.
04:06 VanessaE no but they sure scare the shit out of you when they bump into you
04:07 [0gb_us] Ha ha, yeah, I imagine they do.
04:08 VanessaE that apartment we lived in in Missouri until a few years ago had a fair number of those little black bastards always buzzing around (owing to the wood siding/shingles of the buildings).  Scared me every time I saw them
04:08 VanessaE (I don't like bees getting too close to me, stinging or not)
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04:09 [0gb_us] I know, me neither. Better bees than wasps though. Wasps are mean. Not only are they more likely to sting, but they also bite. And a wasp can sting several times, while a bee stings once, then dies.
04:09 VanessaE true that
04:09 VanessaE bees can bite too
04:09 Inocudom You would definitely not like yellow jackets then. Those things are... extremely... nasty.
04:10 VanessaE I remember reading something years ago, this guy had trapped a bee behind a window screen, and cornered, the bee chose to gnaw its way out.
04:10 [0gb_us] Yeah, yellow jackets and hornets are bad too.
04:10 [0gb_us] I didn't know bees bit though.
04:10 VanessaE I doubt they bite in practice though, this particular one just used its jaws (or whatever they're called) to cut a hole through the screen to escape
04:11 yyamiyyugi hello
04:11 VanessaE hi
04:11 [0gb_us] Hello!
04:11 Inocudom And their nests are like something out of a horror film. That is why I think yellow jackets would make for a good hostile mob.
04:11 yyamiyyugi lol hornets?
04:12 VanessaE Inocudom: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Waspinator_%28BW%29  <-- make him into a mob :-)
04:12 yyamiyyugi my bro had one on the back of his laptop screen the other day
04:12 yyamiyyugi he flipped out
04:13 yyamiyyugi ^^Told by the best story teller ever XD
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04:13 yyamiyyugi VanessaE, I hope it would be Rare
04:16 Inocudom Here is a video of the southern yellow jacket (it builds massive paper horrors:) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGEsV​kruBg0&amp;feature=player_detailpage
04:21 Inocudom My idea is that they and their paper nests could be an additional mining hazard. The nests could be set on fire, but the yellow jackets could put out the fire.
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04:22 jojoa1997 hi
04:22 Inocudom The paper nests would be deep underground of course, as if to be inspired by the Cherokee story of the giant yellow jacket.
04:23 [0gb_us] Hello!
04:23 VanessaE oy, keep those right away from me!
04:23 VanessaE hey jojo.
04:23 VanessaE jojoa1997: just pull'ed. :)
04:23 VanessaE (inb4 "update my mod plz")
04:24 Inocudom What was it that got pulled?
04:24 VanessaE display_blocks
04:25 jojoa1997 oh cool
04:25 VanessaE oh cool, check out this badass PC:  http://www.overclock.net/t/1424387/gallery-build-l​og-ultimate-wall-mount-rig-maxxplanck-v2-completed
04:26 OldCoder R
04:27 [0gb_us] That's interesting. WHy not put it in a box though, for more compact use?
04:27 VanessaE he wanted to make an art piece out of it
04:28 VanessaE though it really *should* be inside a minimal plexi case
04:30 Inocudom Even if you make a computer, you still have to get the needed parts (some of which can be expensive.)
04:31 VanessaE *nod*
04:31 VanessaE says in the build log that he got most of it from a PC he'd already built before
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04:35 yyamiyyugi Anyone have a suggestion for a good first mod? I went through and made a block using the intro thing.
04:38 VanessaE that's one of the best ways actually.  Make a block, then make a few variants of it.  Then make some code that changes the block to something else when you punch it (for example).  Then make the block do something useful when punched, like changing the surrounding blocks into something else.  Then work on formspecs so your block can have a menu/UI
04:38 VanessaE and then just kinda go from there
04:39 VanessaE wherever your imagination and the apparent "what else does the community seem to lack" leads you
04:39 yyamiyyugi So far I have made a block, made it spawn over grass, then made it turn to wood after so long
04:39 VanessaE good
04:40 VanessaE so you've got the basics down
04:40 VanessaE now let your imagination take over :)
04:41 yyamiyyugi will do :)
04:49 yyamiyyugi Goodnight everyone
04:50 VanessaE good night
04:50 [0gb_us] G'night.
04:50 [0gb_us] Oops, too late.
04:50 VanessaE think I'll do the same.  sooo tired from working on that dressform (and I still have to stuff and mount it)
04:51 [0gb_us] G'night VanessaE.
04:51 arsdragonfly Good night
04:51 VanessaE night all.
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05:25 nore hi all
05:25 [0gb_us] Hello!
05:25 arsdragonfly Hi
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06:07 sfan5 hi everyone
06:07 nore hi sfan5
06:09 arsdragonfly Hello sfan5
06:11 hoodedice YO
06:15 [0gb_us] Hello!
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06:20 * sfan5 now has a shiny new Linux 3.11 kernel running
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06:21 aldobr hi all
06:21 sfan5 hi
06:21 arsdragonfly Hi
06:21 [0gb_us] Hello!
06:22 * arsdragonfly thought he travelled back in time
06:22 hoodedice Patents : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle​_Corporation#Lawsuit_against_Google
06:22 sfan5 !title
06:22 MinetestBot sfan5: Oracle Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
06:23 arsdragonfly The last time I saw the latest kernel it was like 3.9.2
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06:31 aldobr i played portal for the first time
06:31 aldobr man, i love glados
06:33 hoodedice (And that's why patents are useless)
06:34 [0gb_us] What do you mean?
06:34 [0gb_us] I'm not a fan of patents myself, but I don't see your point here.
06:34 [0gb_us] OH!
06:35 [0gb_us] Sorry, I thought you were on the GLaDOS thing.
06:35 khonkhortisan does minetest not have a portal gun yet?
06:36 khonkhortisan ofc it would only work on a wall that was at least 2x1
06:36 [0gb_us] I think Jordach made one for Minetest.
06:37 arsdragonfly That would be fun
06:37 khonkhortisan you wouldn't be able to see through it, it would just be a teleport
06:37 khonkhortisan and lag may not keep the travel speed
06:37 khonkhortisan but they should be quickly movable
06:38 arsdragonfly E.g. making an object fall constantly between two portals
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06:54 hoodedice lol
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06:54 hoodedice (Ping me next time)
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07:08 khonkhortisan I don't like licensing. Sure it's needed, but someone else can deal with it.
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07:39 MinetestBot GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Update Microcontroller Tutorial and add .odt source for the .pdf 9ab0d9deb2 2013-09-08T02:38:01-07:00 http://git.io/Ouq5ZQ
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07:41 nore wtf???  "Jeija authored in 2 hours"
07:41 nore on github
07:41 Jeija Actually I pushed something just a second ago...
07:42 nore yes, but why does it say: 2 hours in the future
07:43 Jeija Maybe github does not publish the exact date of authoring anymore?
07:43 Jeija Because now it says 5 minutes ago
07:46 nore not for me... must be something with time zones
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07:47 Jeija It can't be my computer or anything, it also happened when editing stuff online (which I rarely do)
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07:57 khonkhortisan you'd expect it to throw an error with a backwards time difference
07:57 hoodedice Back to the future
07:59 nore the most stunning thing that that it even has text for that! (i.e., not -2 hours ago)
08:01 arsdragonfly What if I try store a negative integer number into an unsigned variable in C?
08:01 hoodedice " Jeija authored in 2 hours"
08:01 hoodedice Yup. Same schist
08:02 nore arsdragonfly, I think you will get numbers like 2^64+[your negative number]
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08:04 arsdragonfly nore, thx, now I recall the mechanism
08:05 khonkhortisan they're probably using a standard time-difference-to-string library
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08:33 hoodedice zwiz this !
08:33 hoodedice Android emu was taking damn long to load. Googling, everyone's like 'Yeah, that's normal"
08:34 hoodedice Then I found out that from the log that it's actually caught up in an infinity loop
08:34 hoodedice -.-
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08:47 VanessaE I'd say thats....not normal.
08:47 VanessaE good morning, Taoki.
08:48 arsdragonfly Abnormal, but frequent
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08:49 hoodedice What is?
08:49 arsdragonfly That android emu thingy
08:50 VanessaE G*D DAMN IT..  I'm gonna ban this guy from the forums soon if he doesn't quit abusing the spoiler tag.  https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=109441#p109441
08:50 sfan5 DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!
08:50 VanessaE I said "soon" :P
08:51 hoodedice oohkay
08:51 sfan5 does your texture pack have the yellow lightstone textures?
08:51 sfan5 ^ VanessaE
08:51 VanessaE mine? yes
08:51 hoodedice cya later peeps
08:51 VanessaE need a render for the website?
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08:53 sfan5 maybe
08:54 VanessaE hm, insulated t-junctions, corners, mese block, LuaC need it too
08:59 sfan5 am I doing something wrong? https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-512/blob​/master/jeija_lightstone_yellow_off.png
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09:00 sfan5 ohh... its jpg
09:00 VanessaE https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/hdx-512​/master/jeija_lightstone_yellow_on.jpg
09:00 VanessaE (or _off)
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09:01 VanessaE ok, got the renders...editing.
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09:04 arsdragonfly NEWS: minetest 0.4.7 released -> how long has it been since that?
09:04 VanessaE months
09:04 VanessaE 3-odd I guess
09:04 sfan5 !op
09:05 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released; 0.4.8 will be released soon™ | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Task of the Day: Bring fish for everykitten!
09:05 sfan5 !deop
09:05 arsdragonfly Lolz
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09:10 VanessaE sfan:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/van​essa/hobbies/minetest/mesecons-webs​ite-rendering-update-2013-09-08.zip
09:10 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Add minetest.get_gametime() API function, that returns the number of seconds since the world was created. 6291fd1cbb 2013-09-08T02:09:50-07:00 http://git.io/34ik-A
09:10 VanessaE (I don't remember how to update the mesecons website)
09:11 sfan5 I gave the link to Jeija
09:11 VanessaE ok
09:12 VanessaE haha!  I forgot to disable fire burning stuff in my singleplayer install.. the spawn on my "testing" copy of the creative server just burnt down :D
09:14 Jeija got it, thx VanessaE
09:14 VanessaE oh no prob
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09:14 VanessaE didn't realize you were still online :D
09:15 Jeija not still, again
09:15 VanessaE ok, "again" :P
09:15 Jeija ^^
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09:25 e1z0 good day
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09:58 nore wait, should pulls for minetest_game be discussed in #minetest or #minetest-dev?
09:59 sfan5 -dev
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10:43 sfan5 [15872.594008] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at (null)
10:43 sfan5 yep thats how it works
10:45 VanessaE that's about as useful as "C++ exception" in Lua :P
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10:47 sfan5 perfect
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10:47 sfan5 if you remove a device without unmounting and then try to unmount the kernel consumes 100% cpu on one core
10:50 VanessaE nice
10:50 VanessaE someone wasn't paying much attention I guess.  Seems like a VERY easy mistake to make for the average user.
10:51 sfan5 well
10:51 sfan5 I dd'd some data on a currently mounted ext4 partition
10:52 VanessaE now THAT would take some effort for an average n00b to do :)
11:05 kahrl good morning y'all
11:06 VanessaE mornin' kahrl
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11:19 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:19 VanessaE morning' PilzAdam
11:22 nore hi
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11:31 * arsdragonfly hails the fallback font commit
11:31 arsdragonfly Hurray XD
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12:47 PilzAdam thexyz, am I allowed to ask why weblate is down?
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13:12 dsadel just learnt aboyt minetest, does it have redstone
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13:12 dsadel well i'm out
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13:51 Calinou it's not like this channel is too busy
13:51 Calinou you've never seen #ubuntu or such
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14:01 Calinou pfft
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14:03 Calinou skype is just bad
14:03 Calinou inb4 lynched
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14:13 Morrolan What is Crevis? :)
14:13 Morrolan My google-fu fails me. :(
14:13 jojoa1997 does anyone know how the..
14:13 OldCoder Hm?
14:13 jojoa1997 header for minetest_game was made
14:13 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:14 Morrolan Ah. :)
14:14 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:14 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:14 OldCoder Do they comply with license issues?
14:15 OldCoder Crevis that is ^
14:15 Morrolan I don't think complying with issues is an expression which makes sense. :D
14:15 OldCoder Comply with licenses, then
14:15 Morrolan :)
14:15 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:15 OldCoder I am still at work afer about 24 hours
14:15 OldCoder Ha
14:15 OldCoder What is MT license again?
14:15 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:15 jojoa1997 FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
14:16 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:16 OldCoder jojoa1997, yes but free how? What is license?
14:16 jojoa1997 does anyone know how the header for minetest_game was made
14:16 OldCoder CC or GNU etc.
14:16 * jojoa1997 remembers...
14:16 Morrolan GPL.
14:16 jojoa1997 an adam sanler movie
14:16 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:16 jojoa1997 sec
14:16 Morrolan LGPL, that is.
14:16 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:17 OldCoder Hmm
14:17 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:18 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:19 Morrolan My coworker likes sublime.
14:19 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:20 Morrolan Has a free trial version.
14:20 * Prestotron562 likes Komodo Edit
14:20 Morrolan Then there's geany, which is free, and quite okay.
14:20 Morrolan Of course, Emacs and Vim are popular choices, too.
14:20 jojoa1997 bedtime stories free ferari. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGVNHGe40gs
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14:21 OldCoder Prestotron562, there are dozens of good editors for Linux
14:21 OldCoder It is a matter of personal preference; not one right answer
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14:22 OldCoder bluefish, e3, emacs, ex, geany, joe, leafpad; wide range
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14:23 Morrolan Install a bunch from Ubuntu's repos, and use them for a few days each. :)
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14:25 Morrolan Bad connection, it seems. :)
14:25 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:25 Morrolan Still waiting for the original nick to time out, though. :D
14:26 Morrolan Ah. There we go.
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14:28 Morrolan One left. :)
14:28 Morrolan e1z0__: You alive? :D
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14:34 jojoa1997 does anyone know how the header for minetest_game was made
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14:34 jojoa1997 no the header
14:35 jojoa1997 minetest_game/menu/header.png
14:35 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:36 Prestotron562 [deleted]
14:38 jojoa1997 no i meant how someone made the picture
14:38 jojoa1997 i am making a game and want a header like that
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14:39 proller Prestotron562, here is only one way to reduce flood and noobs - CLOSE IRC CLIENT NOW!
14:39 VanessaE heh
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14:39 * jojoa1997 kick all non noobs
14:39 * jojoa1997 remembers he is not a noob OH NO!
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14:49 yyamiyyugi hello
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14:53 pitriss PilzAdam: hi, I want to ask about your nether mod: on landrush server when i dig 4 netherrack blocks, then i get only one netherrack in inventory.. It is bug, feature or some setting?
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15:03 Jordach BrandonReese, that guy who was spamming on your server topic is banned for a day
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15:18 * Prestotron562 is officially a developer and a modder
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15:20 yyamiyyugi nice
15:20 Jordach Lua code isn't developing, kahrl and hmmmm would agree to that
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15:21 proller Prestotron562, you officially is a noob and a flooder
15:21 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:21 kahrl Jordach, I wouldn't
15:21 kahrl minetest-game developments is welcome in #-dev
15:21 kahrl -s
15:22 yyamiyyugi pitriss you still here?
15:23 pitriss yyamiyyugi: yes
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15:24 yyamiyyugi it's a feature, you can change it by opening init.lua and finding the netherrack node then changing rarity to 1 for a netherrack everytime
15:24 pitriss ahh thank you..:)
15:25 yyamiyyugi (I did this for my singleplayer world just now)
15:25 yyamiyyugi np
15:25 yyamiyyugi is there any documentation or anything on rarity group?
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15:26 yyamiyyugi I can't find it in the lua_api.txt
15:26 yyamiyyugi or is it a custom thing?
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15:41 yyamiyyugi is there any documentation or anything on rarity group? or is it a custom thing?
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15:43 Jordach Prestotron562, simple_mobs or MOBF, take your poison
15:43 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:44 Jordach Prestotron562, they were called Dungeon Masters and Oerrkis
15:44 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:57 PilzAdam Prestotron562, please dont create #minetest-help
15:57 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:57 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:58 PilzAdam there is no need for another channel
15:58 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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15:58 PilzAdam how is support flood?
15:59 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:59 PilzAdam if people come here and ask for help then it isnt flood
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16:02 sfan5
16:03 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:06 thexyz you need a pro account to read that message
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16:19 PilzAdam Prestotron562, you can disable join/part messages in your client if it annoys you
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17:08 ShadowNinja Prestotron562: You are banned/quieted/etc.
17:08 Prestotron562 [deleted]
17:09 ShadowNinja Or maybe not voiced or something.
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17:09 ShadowNinja Depends on the channel modes.
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17:12 Jordach \o/
17:12 Jordach but people will still come to #minetest
17:12 sfan5 what happend while I was away?
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17:13 PilzAdam #minetest-help is _not_ official, this is the support/help channel
17:13 NakedFury the world ended and was restarted
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17:14 Jordach|MT you wont
17:14 Jordach|MT that's YOUR problem
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17:18 ShadowNinja Calinou: ..../moreores/init.lua:64: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'uses' (a nil value)
17:18 Calinou ._.
17:20 Peacock ..../moreores/init.lua:64: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'calinou' (a nil value)
17:20 Peacock :P
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17:22 Zeg9 Hey john
17:24 john_minetest Hello everypony and Zeg9
17:24 Peacock pocket dimensions http://s13.postimg.org/ijq8vd​2kn/screenshot_4271458351.png
17:24 * Zeg9 is a pony too
17:24 * john_minetest wants to continue building up Zegaton II
17:25 nore Calinou: you need to change tdef to tooldef in the code line 207...
17:25 Calinou oh
17:28 Calinou I changed every instance of tdef to tooldef
17:28 Calinou is that right?
17:29 e1z0__ why do you need minetest-help ?
17:30 e1z0__ if, they we need to make channels minetest-mods minetest-textures minetest-offtopic
17:30 e1z0__ and minetest-beer
17:30 Calinou nore: ^
17:30 e1z0__ ;-)
17:30 PilzAdam and minetest-pony
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17:34 Peacock dont forget minetest-pron
17:35 Peacock "the biggest pair of blocks in the voxel universe"
17:35 e1z0__ haha
17:35 Calinou lol
17:36 e1z0__ needs some more
17:36 e1z0__ :-p[
17:36 Peacock now that ive done pocket dimensions, what the hell do i do with them? lol
17:37 * Jordach|MT really needs to update MC4MT8
17:37 Peacock rather, what does MC do with them lol
17:38 e1z0__ mc4mt8 wtf ?
17:38 Peacock there's an MC riven map id like to convert
17:38 Peacock the island would look nice in my waterworld
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17:43 e1z0__ the mc to minetest converter does not work
17:43 e1z0__ with huge world sizes
17:44 e1z0__ i tested it under amd phenom x4 it took more than 48hours without an result
17:45 Peacock good heavens lol
17:45 Peacock whats it written in?
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17:54 nore Calinou, no! only that one
17:54 Calinou -_-
17:55 Calinou why does the game start then
17:55 * Jordach|MT pokes VanessaE
17:55 Calinou GOOD, I don't have the old filke
17:55 nore well, it does start, but you won't be able to use any tool
17:56 nore sorry, only hoes will crash (as before)
17:56 * Jordach|MT is currently supporting http://www.digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanes​sa/hobbies/minetest/VanessaE_Game.tar.bz2
17:56 Jordach|MT bbl in 2 days
17:56 Jordach|MT hey Jeija
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18:01 Fungus_ Hello, I was woundering if someone could help me out today?
18:02 Jordach Prestotron562, ^
18:02 Calinou ask your question Fungus_
18:03 Fungus_ I am trying to get this texture pack to work in my own world only. For a future server I am working on
18:03 Fungus_ Prestotron tried to help me yesterday but it did not work
18:03 Fungus_ I redownloaed the pack and did not extract it or anything
18:03 Jordach which game for minetest are you using
18:03 Fungus_ 0.4.7
18:03 Jordach no
18:04 Jordach eg, minetest_game, pilztest
18:04 Fungus_ I'm not sure I understand
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18:05 Jordach the server has to send mods, textures and sounds to other clients
18:05 Jordach the normal game the server should select is minetest_game
18:05 Jordach which is found under minetest/games/minetest_gamre
18:05 Jordach minetest_game
18:06 Fungus_ Yes, I use the normal game not minimal
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18:06 Jordach then you will need to replace the mod textures in there
18:06 Jordach by hand
18:06 Jordach if you want people to use the texture pack, link them to the texture pack download
18:07 Jordach other wise clients with a different tp to the server will not see it
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18:07 Fungus_ But I been on other servers that use different packs and I did not have to install or do anything
18:07 Jordach Fungus_, they know how to
18:07 Jordach Fungus_, not to mention i can barely solve a vauge answer
18:08 Fungus_ What do you mean a vauge answer? I do not understand your vauge question. I'm sorry.
18:09 jojoa1997 where is the survival inventory defined?
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18:10 Fungus_ What I mean, I would like to do is install a texture pack onto my own created server so me and anyone else can see it, like on skys server they have different texture pack then say landrush
18:10 Fungus_ I don't need to install or do nothing on my end
18:10 Jordach Fungus_, no clue
18:10 nore is there any way to leave a message to someone that he will get on reconnection?
18:10 PilzAdam jojoa1997, you can get the formspec string with player:get_formspec()
18:10 jojoa1997 ok
18:10 Jordach eg, i just said: in minetest game there is a bunch of mods, you need to replace each texture by hand
18:10 john_minetest VanessaE's servers are my favourites.
18:10 Fungus_ Yes, but that would make it so only I see it
18:10 john_minetest </random>
18:11 PilzAdam Fungus_, installing texture packs on servers isnt a good idea
18:11 Jordach Fungus_, that's FOR THE SERVER
18:11 PilzAdam the client has to download all the textures, while the default textures are most likely already cached
18:12 PilzAdam so the client has way less things to download if you use the default packs on the server
18:12 Jordach hey Evergreen
18:12 PilzAdam the proper way to install a TP is client side
18:12 Fungus_ I have just reinstalled the game and removed all other files to be safe pilz
18:12 Fungus_ and have not logged in any game mode yet
18:12 Exio4 don't call PilzAdam "pilz"
18:13 Exio4 or you will get backstabbed at night
18:13 Fungus_ He is an adult can tell me himself. But thanks for the tip
18:13 Exio4 /o\
18:13 Exio4 it was a joke
18:13 Fungus_ Ah
18:14 Exio4 he doesn't like being pilz
18:14 Fungus_ You sneaky troll :p
18:14 Exio4 so i used it
18:14 Exio4 for trolling, yeah'
18:14 Exio4 i'm a good pet
18:14 Fungus_ So if I replace all by hand would that change it for just my world
18:14 Fungus_ or every world I join
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18:15 PilzAdam Fungus_, why do you assume that Im an adult?
18:15 Fungus_ Because your one of the creators of the game
18:15 Prestotron562 [deleted]
18:15 ruskie your point being?
18:15 * Jordach gets the SynFlood ready
18:15 Fungus_ Usally a kid can not even tie his shoes let alone make a game
18:17 Fungus_ So, Jordach if I replace all by hand would that change for just my world and not servers
18:17 Exio4 there are dumb kid and l33t kids
18:17 Exio4 the latter are rare, tho
18:17 Peacock meh, kids usually have alot more imagination
18:17 Peacock anyone who's worked for a few years has theirs snuffed out lol
18:17 ruskie only if you let them
18:18 Fungus_ We are geting off topic :/
18:18 ruskie my imagination is still going strong
18:18 PilzAdam Prestotron562, who said that I am not an adult?
18:18 Fungus_ Jordach ?
18:18 Prestotron562 [deleted]
18:18 PilzAdam :-p
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18:19 Fungus_ :/ Can someone else possibley help?
18:19 Prestotron562 [deleted]
18:19 PilzAdam Fungus_, the textures that are in textures/all/ on the server will be send to the clients
18:20 Fungus_ If I replace each texture by hand in a new texture pack would it replace all in my own world only or all servers too
18:20 thexyz PilzAdam is 8 year old girl
18:20 Fungus_ How would I just install on my own world
18:20 Fungus_ and not others
18:20 PilzAdam >girl >internet
18:20 PilzAdam suure
18:20 Prestotron562 [deleted]
18:20 PilzAdam Im an 3 year old pony
18:20 sfan5 ^
18:21 sfan5 but ponies are female too
18:21 Fungus_ How would I install a texture pack for my own world and have it not effect others
18:21 Prestotron562 [deleted]
18:21 PilzAdam Fungus_, set a different texture_path in the minetest.conf for the server
18:22 Fungus_ Can you or someone walk me through that?
18:23 Prestotron562 [deleted]
18:24 Fungus_ VanessaE ?
18:24 PilzAdam Fungus_, sry, but I have other things to do too
18:25 Fungus_ Anyone else then?
18:25 OldCoder Umm...
18:25 * OldCoder seems to have stumbled into the MLP channel
18:25 * MinetestBot places a pony on OldCoder's head
18:26 thexyz this is very true
18:27 Fungus_ Their is about 50 or more people in this chat, Not one person knows how or can take time to walk me through the steps?
18:27 Fungus_ I understand some are busy, but everyone else?
18:28 john_minetest Fungus_: The textures in texture packs are client side.
18:28 john_minetest You can simply install and deinstall texture packs.
18:29 Fungus_ I do not know how
18:29 Fungus_ Other wise I would install it
18:29 john_minetest Just put a file with the same name like the hand inside the textures/<packname> folder
18:29 john_minetest Then choose the texture pack in the game.
18:29 john_minetest In the "texture pack" bar.
18:30 Fungus_ Where is that bar inside game
18:30 john_minetest In main menu, on the top.
18:30 Fungus_ Let me check, hang on
18:30 john_minetest Only the textures that are different in the texture pack are replaced, so if you only put a different hand picture in your texture pack the rest will stay the same, only the hand will change.
18:30 OldCoder A pony? Is there a pile of ponies now?
18:31 Fungus_ Wouldent this effect every server I join
18:34 Fungus_ Also PilzAdam
18:34 Fungus_ Someone deleted the article on createing a server on wiki
18:35 Fungus_ As the creator of the game I thought you should know.
18:35 john_minetest Fungus_: The hand will be changed on every server you are on.
18:35 john_minetest But it is only in your client.
18:35 john_minetest By changing your texture pack back to "none" you can turn back to default stuff.,
18:36 Fungus_ How do I make it so it only changes for my own server, and have others see it like VannenseE server
18:36 Fungus_ She has a different pack then others
18:36 john_minetest Easy:
18:36 Fungus_ Please tell me
18:36 john_minetest Replace the hand image in the game folder.
18:37 john_minetest game/minetest_game/mods/default/textures/name in that example.
18:37 Fungus_ Any anyone would be able to see it?
18:37 john_minetest Maybe also setting a texture pack works.
18:37 john_minetest I will try it out
18:37 Fungus_ Okay, keep me posted I am trying as well
18:37 Fungus_ Thank you john_minetest
18:38 john_minetest I am looking up if it works right now
18:38 Fungus_ I do not have a texture folder in my worlds foler
18:39 * Prestotron562 is now AFK
18:40 kahrl Assuming you have a recent git version you can put the textures into textures/server
18:40 Fungus_ The following are all in my created worlds server: Players, auth,env_meta,ipban.map.sqlite, map_meta,rollback,wolrd.mt
18:40 Fungus_ I have 0.4.7
18:40 kahrl ah, then no
18:40 john_minetest Fungus_: The client loads very long so I think it selects the texture pack you selected when starting up the server.
18:41 Fungus_ I will just add the folder and try
18:41 Fungus_ Should I extract folder?
18:41 Fungus_ I still just have zip
18:42 kahrl extract
18:42 kahrl minetest does not load zips
18:43 Fungus_ ok
18:44 Fungus_ Nope did not work
18:46 Fungus_ Just forget it
18:46 Fungus_ It's not working
18:46 Fungus_ And this is just to confuseing
18:46 Fungus_ john_minetest thank you for everything
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19:24 Exio4 PilzAdam / john_minetest, WG?
19:24 Exio4 (##werewolf) :p
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19:25 jojoa1997 will client side skins be added to minetest?
19:25 * Calinou is banned from ##werewolf, taunts with atomizeer
19:25 Calinou -e
19:25 Calinou jojoa1997: I wouldn't expect that in the near future at all
19:27 jojoa1997 :(
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19:29 beacon55 have u guys see prestotron
19:29 Exio4 i don't want to
19:29 beacon55 why
19:30 Calinou Prestotron562: someone wants you :p
19:30 beacon55 u not like him
19:30 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:31 beacon55 i need help instralling mod
19:31 proller Prestotron562, beacon55 why you have one ip?
19:31 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:31 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:32 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:32 beacon55 k bye
19:32 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:32 Exio4 seems more like you
19:33 Exio4 tell her to connect back
19:33 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:33 Calinou ._.
19:33 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:33 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:34 proller more annoying than you??
19:34 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:35 proller you first
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19:35 beacon55 wat
19:35 Peacock lol
19:35 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:35 beacon55 yes
19:36 beacon55 preston why does my compter look diffrenyt
19:36 proller beacon55, show foto, or you==virtual.Prestotron562
19:36 Exio4 er
19:36 Exio4 sorry proller
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19:36 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:36 Calinou why sorry, Exio4
19:36 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:36 Calinou proller: ...not even funny
19:36 beacon55 wats linux?
19:37 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:37 beacon55 i dont like it
19:37 Peacock wouldn't be the first multiple personality to join minetest lol
19:37 thexyz note: posting personal information here will not be tolerated
19:37 john_minetest beacon55: What don't you like  about it?
19:37 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:38 john_minetest beacon55: Or did you mean windows?
19:38 beacon55 it loock weird
19:38 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:38 beacon55 say wat
19:38 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:38 beacon55 whats foto
19:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:39 Exio4 photo
19:39 proller nude, off cource
19:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:39 Exio4 lol proller
19:39 Calinou why do I feel like an hypocrite so much here
19:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:39 Exio4 gg
19:39 * Calinou glares at Exio4
19:39 Peacock the engliche language has really gone downhill on this channel lol
19:39 john_minetest Stylish PC: http://cdn.overclock.net/d/d​4/d4765677_01-DSC_4104.jpeg
19:39 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:39 thexyz child pornography will not be tolerated either
19:39 Calinou stylish PC with caviar blacks? no thanks
19:40 Exio4 Calinou: hi
19:40 beacon55 ewww
19:40 beacon55 bye
19:40 Exio4 if she is 8 then she shouldn't try to be on irc nor internet
19:40 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:41 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:41 Peacock possibly mental patients too
19:41 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:41 Calinou ...
19:41 PilzAdam no, we are not one family
19:41 PilzAdam its core devs vs. rest of world here
19:41 Exio4 haha
19:41 Exio4 core devs vs users
19:42 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:42 PilzAdam Exio4, woffle?
19:42 Exio4 THE WAR - Chapter 1
19:42 * Calinou slaps PilzAdam with a waffle
19:42 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:42 * Peacock slaps calinou with a pilzadam
19:43 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:43 Calinou I'm not cruel :(
19:43 Peacock just because i operate on homeless people i kidnap off the street doesn't mean im cruel
19:44 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:44 Calinou :p
19:44 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:44 Peacock i like to collect spleens that's all
19:45 Jordach hey look, n00b flamers
19:45 * Calinou fireballs Jordach
19:45 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:45 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:46 * Prestotron562 kicks Jordach in the shin
19:46 john_minetest Prestotron562: I am not cruel :`-(
19:46 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:46 john_minetest lol
19:46 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:47 pitriss I don't see any cruel ppl in this channel..
19:47 Exio4 http://cdn.overclock.net/d/d​4/d4765677_01-DSC_4104.jpeg looks nice
19:47 Exio4 at what frequency is the CPU? \o/
19:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:48 john_minetest Exio4: Look at that pic and now imagine how it is cabled under the facade...
19:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:48 Calinou he's both lol
19:48 Exio4 no idea john_minetest \o/
19:48 Exio4 i just know there is a lot of money in that
19:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:49 Exio4 at least 4kUSD i guess lol
19:49 john_minetest nice+mean=mice
19:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:49 Peacock rag-quit?
19:49 Exio4 ragequit Prestotron562
19:49 pitriss lol john_minetest
19:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:49 Exio4 john_minetest: ##werewolf pls
19:49 Exio4 one game
19:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:50 proller Prestotron562, just try to close irc client, and rage --> 0
19:50 Peacock by you
19:50 Calinou why are you making fun of it?
19:50 Calinou Exio4: no u
19:50 * Calinou taunts with atomizer
19:50 Calinou inb4 there are games with 20p
19:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:51 Exio4 XD
19:51 Exio4 it is the internet
19:51 proller Prestotron562, bacause you cant stop
19:51 Exio4 lets deal with it or you won't be able to be here for more than 6 months
19:51 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:51 proller be noob
19:51 proller and flooder
19:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:54 Calinou don't insult him back, just ignore him
19:54 * Calinou feels like an hypocrite again
19:54 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:56 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:57 MinetestBot Prestotron562, zip it
19:57 Calinou .tar.xz it
19:57 pitriss :D
19:57 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:58 * Jordach thinks it is MinetestBot's time of the month
19:58 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:58 pitriss Prestotron562: I think you are really flooder, you are typing even when you have nothing to say..:)
19:59 Prestotron562 [deleted]
19:59 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:00 * Jordach calls bullshit
20:01 pitriss Prestotron562: but on IRC there is better to be silent when you can't answer correctly.. Topic says *be patient*.. that means you should ask and wait for answer
20:01 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:02 john_minetest Yeah. Incorrect answers only confuse newbies.
20:02 john_minetest And then they lose interest.
20:03 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:04 Jordach \o/
20:04 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:04 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:04 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:05 proller and you start again?
20:05 proller you cant be silent more than one minute?
20:05 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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20:12 Peacock proller perhaps we can do something to his voice box?
20:12 * Calinou isn't
20:12 Peacock someone stole calinou's pony
20:12 Calinou :(
20:12 Calinou if you found it, connect to LandRush and try to break a block at the spawn 15 times
20:12 Peacock lol
20:12 Peacock im surprised no one made a pony mob yet
20:12 Jordach http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19349921 current minetest_game on left, Prestotron562's on right
20:12 Calinou Taoki said he would do one, lol
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20:20 Morrolan Cat comes in, completely wet, cuddles until it's dry, leaves again.
20:20 Morrolan Thanks you very much.
20:20 Morrolan s/s//
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20:28 sfan5 goodnight everyone
20:28 Peacock the whole time i was showering the cat sat there staring at me :S
20:28 pitriss night sfan5
20:29 Calinou night
20:32 Peacock is lost http://s13.postimg.org/omspbg​mdj/screenshot_4282766455.png
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20:34 Peacock what are good dimensions for pocket dimensions? 100^3, 1000^3, or 1000*1000*100(height) ?
20:36 john_minetest "pocket"?
20:37 john_minetest night sfan5
20:37 Peacock cubic/rectangular areas isolated by unbreakable nodes
20:37 Peacock like this http://s13.postimg.org/omspbg​mdj/screenshot_4282766455.png
20:38 john_minetest 1000*1000*100 might be best.
20:38 Peacock the MC original http://youtu.be/BL5eillMQi8
20:40 Peacock i think 100 height might be best too, though i wonder if its high enough for a fake sky
20:41 john_minetest hmmm...
20:41 proller unbreakable for tnt ?
20:41 john_minetest maybe use cloud as material
20:41 Peacock well unbreakable = diggable = false
20:41 Peacock you cant really stop other mods from doing damage
20:42 john_minetest Peacock: Sky in minetest is actually at 100.
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20:42 NakedFury maybe a smaller dimension 500 or 250 and have a bigger dimension item too for the 1000
20:42 john_minetest So making clouds and using blue material for sky could be possible
20:42 john_minetest yeah.
20:42 Peacock aiight then 100 height it is
20:42 Peacock 100,250,500, 1000 width and depth im not sure
20:43 Peacock at 100^3, i calculate roughly 5.2 million dimensions
20:43 Peacock and thats just using heights -30K to -25K
20:43 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:44 Peacock 1000*1000*100 = 51200 dimensions
20:45 Peacock so thats still alot of dimensions even if they are big
20:45 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:46 Peacock was inspired by this http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8462/sn4.png
20:46 Peacock guy made a myst age undeground and fake a sky and sunset
20:47 Prestotron562 [deleted]
20:48 john_minetest /away
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20:53 john_minetest bye
20:56 yyamiyyugi With the games thing, does it still use the default?
20:56 Peacock hm, pocket dimensions generate hella-faster with voxmynipples
21:00 * proller sometimes thinkink about server-defined clouds
21:01 proller with more than one level, ...
21:02 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:02 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:02 PilzAdam proller, I made a 3D clouds mod, that used default:cloud and oregen
21:02 proller Prestotron562, choke please
21:03 proller PilzAdam, they moving?
21:03 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:03 PilzAdam no
21:03 PilzAdam Prestotron562, I just read in the logs that you wanted to stop flodding
21:03 proller for weather need in multi color clouds
21:04 proller PilzAdam, and what with distance to clouds?
21:05 PilzAdam obviously it has the default node view range
21:05 proller anyway its subject for todo
21:05 PilzAdam but it looks really nice
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21:13 Peacock proller: rain clouds :-)
21:14 Peacock grey clouds where the particlespanzers kick in for rain :-)
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21:16 proller Peacock, it already was
21:19 proller https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7foJg52ZFA0
21:20 proller need to make same
21:20 proller but now clouds client-only
21:21 proller and weather on server and per-block
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21:24 STHGOM wb
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21:31 proller you still noobing
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22:23 OldCoder Welcome back folks!
22:23 jojoa1997 lol
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22:23 jojoa1997 anyone know how to make lua get all the groups possible in minetest
22:23 Mossmanikin hi folks
22:23 jojoa1997 like
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22:23 jojoa1997 (if i was using batch) groupcaps = { * = {times={[2]=3.00, [3]=0.70}, uses=0, maxlevel=1}}
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22:43 yyamiyyugi goodnight
22:45 Mossmanikin good night
22:50 yyamiyyugi is there a way to disable the "ERROR function blabla took too long (insert time here)"
22:52 STHGOM bye
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22:56 yyamiyyugi is there a polycount limit?
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23:02 Mossmanikin yyamiyyugi: don't know a number, but you've reached it when minetest crashes (had that a couple of times)
23:03 yyamiyyugi lol
23:04 yyamiyyugi just wondering, any guideline?
23:04 Mossmanikin not that I know of
23:05 yyamiyyugi dang
23:05 STHGOM can someone make a mod for me?
23:06 Miner_48er you could make it
23:07 * OldCoder pets NekoGloopMkII
23:07 * OldCoder is away for a few hours
23:07 * NekoGloopMkII purrs~ :3
23:09 STHGOM there are a dozen problems with making the mod myself
23:11 Mossmanikin STHGOM: so you have started the mod and you're kind of stuck?
23:11 STHGOM i havnt gotten far :D
23:12 STHGOM does "get_player_name()" get the players name?
23:12 PilzAdam no, it gets the players pony
23:12 STHGOM i though so
23:12 STHGOM thought*
23:13 Mossmanikin :D
23:13 STHGOM what do the "()" do?
23:13 Menche for arguments
23:13 * Prestotron562 and Zeg9 are putting ponies in their ingame animals
23:13 Menche all functions need those, whether or not they actually take arguments
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23:15 STHGOM arg.
23:15 STHGOM i always forget what arguments are exactly >:(
23:16 Evergreen Ohai Mossmanikin
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23:17 Mossmanikin Evergreen: Ji Evergreen :)
23:17 Mossmanikin *Hi :D
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23:20 * Menche thinks that aux1_descends should be true by default
23:20 Menche sprinting through water is ridiculous with it off
23:20 Menche also ladders and other climbable nodes
23:21 Evergreen I know, but aren't they fun?    :D
23:21 * Menche can climb ladders so fast he jumps 30 feet off the top
23:22 STHGOM :D
23:22 Menche and i can climb down ladders faster than I free-fall :D
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23:22 Menche ...that has to be fixed
23:22 STHGOM does: "playerName = get_player_name()" work?
23:23 STHGOM ...for a lua variable declaration?
23:23 Menche yeah
23:23 Menche not sure if you can just call get_player_name like that
23:23 Menche but yeah, that would put whatever get_variable_name returns into playerName
23:25 STHGOM well... it dosent get the players pony...
23:26 Mossmanikin guess it's minetest.get_player_name(), but could be wrong
23:26 PilzAdam you need a player reference
23:27 PilzAdam and then call player:get_player_name()
23:29 STHGOM how would you get a reference?
23:29 PilzAdam there are multiple ways
23:29 Mossmanikin I should try to refrain from making wild guesses... :D
23:29 PilzAdam where do you need it?
23:29 STHGOM at de start of my mod
23:30 PilzAdam there are no players when the mod loads initially
23:30 STHGOM so i will need somthing that trigger a check?
23:30 STHGOM ...for players
23:30 PilzAdam maybe on_joinplayer() will help you
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23:31 STHGOM and how would i put this all together?
23:33 STHGOM 1:playerName
23:33 STHGOM 2:on_joinplayer playerName = player:get_player_name()
23:34 PilzAdam ehm, thats not how this works
23:34 STHGOM ok :D
23:34 PilzAdam have you ever read any other mods?
23:34 STHGOM yes
23:35 Exio4 PilzAdam: here?
23:35 PilzAdam no, there
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23:38 STHGOM Miner_48er: now do you see the problem with making it myself?
23:38 Exio4 it was for ##werewolf :P
23:39 Mossmanikin What exactly do you need the player name for? Do you want a chat message when a player joins? Do you want a special node to recognize a player?...
23:40 STHGOM im tring to make a mod like BrandonReese's "Gauges" mod but instead of showing how much health the player has, i want it to show the players name
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23:44 Mossmanikin Unfortunately don't know that mod... have a link?
23:44 STHGOM just a minute
23:45 STHGOM hmm maybe it wasnt brandonReese's... just in one of his packs...
23:45 STHGOM https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4735
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23:48 Mossmanikin Ah, now I see what you mean. But isn't the player name allready there by default? (I don't play 0.4.* on servers)
23:49 Menche it is
23:49 STHGOM yes but you can see it though blocks
23:50 Menche it would be nice if there were an option to make the name an attached entity
23:50 Menche (and disable the other name of course)
23:50 STHGOM the heath bar on that mod is an entity
23:51 STHGOM or so it says...
23:52 Mossmanikin Interesting. I'm curious now, gonna take a look at the code...
23:53 STHGOM :D
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23:58 STHGOM allooo

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