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00:05 hoodedice ...
00:06 hoodedice I'll just go then
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00:19 Inocudom This chat room seems to be more void than it used to be. Everything does.
00:21 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Add minetest.parse_json, engine.parse_json 1ecf51a13f 2013-09-01T17:20:08-07:00 http://git.io/UpXKig
00:21 Inocudom What does that do?
00:23 kahrl parse json
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00:24 Somedude I guess we will soon have java-based mods?
00:47 khonkhortisan When I set ; as toggle fly, it gets set as -
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00:50 jojoa1997 Hello!
00:55 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, try setting it manually in minetest.conf
00:56 PilzAdam I have set tab as inventory, that is not possible in the GUI
00:59 khonkhortisan it works fine in the conf, it's probably a similar bug as the one that made ;,.p terminate the world list
01:00 khonkhortisan s/as/to
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01:23 Cells Quick question what is the command for time speed again
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01:28 Cells hello?
01:29 PilzAdam bye
01:33 khonkhortisan What is it where the side swaps the connections between the two outputs and the two inputs?
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02:10 jojoa1997 brb
02:12 jojoa1997 back
02:23 jojoa1997 bye
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03:01 mnb_ how do i make a nether portal?
03:05 notVanessaE If only I knew
03:05 VanessaE who the..?
03:05 VanessaE all right neko.
03:05 notVanessaE Who the..?
03:05 notVanessaE Who are YOU!
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03:06 mnb_ i'm using pilz nether mod
03:06 mnb_ can't figure out how to make it
03:07 VanessaE looks to be a 4x5 ring of obsidian
03:08 mnb_ then what?
03:08 VanessaE right click on it with a mese crystal in your hand
03:08 VanessaE I guess
03:08 notVanessaE Ya that's it
03:08 notVanessaE I guess
03:09 notVanessaE "You can go into the nether by either digging deep down or build a obsidian portal as seen in the screenshots above. To activate the portal, rightclick it with a mese crystal fragment."
03:09 notVanessaE mnb_ Which version of minetest are you running?
03:09 VanessaE ok either landmine or neko or hoodedice, either way lose the nick or lose your access to this channel.
03:09 notVanessaE You got me.
03:09 mnb_ 0.4.6
03:09 VanessaE ok.
03:09 hoodedice *Ta Da*
03:09 mnb_ i mean 7
03:10 hoodedice ok.
03:11 hoodedice mnb_ Is this a new world in which it is not working?
03:11 hoodedice Or did you activate the mod on an old world?
03:14 mnb_ not sure what u mean
03:14 mnb_ it works though
03:14 mnb_ 4x5 and hit it with a mese fragment
03:15 mnb_ thx for the advice
03:15 hoodedice *Yawn* RTAOP next time
03:16 hoodedice (Read The Awesome Opening Post)
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03:27 nothoodedice hello
03:28 VanessaE heh
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03:34 hoodedice lol
03:35 hoodedice I missed that XD
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03:40 khonkhortisan a cage of insulated crossovers has a small amount of shadow
03:54 VanessaE http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/09/01/222​4243/facebook-to-overhaul-data-use-policy
03:54 VanessaE oh I do NOT like this
03:58 hoodedice Nothing new here
03:58 hoodedice Move on
03:59 VanessaE it's the "we'll use your likeness, name, etc without compensation" part I object to.
04:00 VanessaE as in, use them in an ad.
04:00 VanessaE that's not just no, that's "FUCK NO".
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04:18 aldobr hi all
04:19 VanessaE hi
04:20 aldobr i need a good place to host my mods...
04:20 aldobr anybody know of some ?
04:20 VanessaE github.
04:20 hoodedice github
04:20 hoodedice google drive
04:22 aldobr hm i need something like tinypic but for file
04:22 VanessaE dropbox then
04:22 hoodedice google drive
04:23 khonkhortisan github. My update-all-mods-and-games-and-minetest script uses git.
04:23 khonkhortisan -and-texture-packs
04:23 aldobr i will use dropbox, thank
04:34 hoodedice Pardon my ignorance
04:34 hoodedice But what exactly does your mod do?
04:35 aldobr two mods
04:35 aldobr one is a gcode interpreter
04:35 aldobr other is a sproxel plugin to export nodebox files from that voxel editor
04:36 hoodedice so what does the gcode thingy do?
04:36 aldobr it parses a gcode file and prints it into the current world
04:36 aldobr using reprap logic
04:37 aldobr kinda virtual reprap
04:37 hoodedice So it makes nodes
04:37 hoodedice from this 3d printer thingy's files
04:37 hoodedice cool
04:38 hoodedice The other thing, what does that do?
04:38 aldobr allow one to create nodeboxes using a voxel editor
04:39 aldobr wysiwyg
04:39 hoodedice I dont get it
04:39 hoodedice Texture or shape of the node?
04:39 aldobr shape and texture
04:39 aldobr but texture is buggy yet
04:39 hoodedice (AND)
04:39 hoodedice woah
04:39 hoodedice waitasec
04:39 aldobr it generates init.lua and pictures as textures
04:40 hoodedice How is it different from this :https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2840
04:40 aldobr it generates textures from the color of the voxels
04:40 aldobr its completely different
04:40 hoodedice ?
04:40 aldobr cant explain, you have to look and see
04:40 hoodedice I think I'll test both
04:41 hoodedice Yeah
04:41 aldobr this editor follow another logic
04:41 aldobr in sproxel everything is divided by same volume voxels
04:41 aldobr its kind of pixel art, but using voxels
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04:42 hoodedice oh
04:42 hoodedice Saw the blog
04:42 hoodedice I get it all now
04:42 aldobr it generates the textures from the colours of each voxel projected into the sides
04:42 aldobr voxels have no texture but own color
04:42 aldobr etc
04:43 hoodedice hmm
04:43 hoodedice aldobr
04:44 hoodedice For the GCode thingy
04:44 hoodedice the model will come out as an exact replica of the thing, right?
04:44 aldobr not exact
04:44 hoodedice ?
04:44 aldobr but close if the resolution is ok
04:44 hoodedice ok
04:44 aldobr there are problems like alias
04:44 hoodedice Neat work dude
04:44 aldobr etc
04:45 aldobr the version i posted works on 0.4.7
04:45 hoodedice (Though a bit complicated =P)
04:45 aldobr i have another version where jinx_ji helped me to add voxelmanip
04:45 hoodedice voxelmanip is 0.4.8
04:45 hoodedice =/
04:45 aldobr works waaaay faster
04:46 hoodedice So yeah. Wait till then to release that
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04:48 aldobr i want the coral reef mod :/
04:48 [0gb_us] I've been gone a while, so I'm out of the loop. Will 0.4.8 use mapgen v7, or is it still being fixed up?
04:49 hoodedice 90% might use
04:49 hoodedice PilzAdam got it nice, I've heard
04:51 [0gb_us] Nice. I saw some of what he did a while back, and it certainly makes the terrain more interesting.
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04:52 VanessaE wb, 0gb
04:52 VanessaE and no, it'll use mgv6 by default, no doubt
04:52 VanessaE but it's easy to select another mapgen
04:52 [0gb_us] Hey, VanessaE!
04:53 [0gb_us] I've seen the light and come back. Though I'm here for other reasons now. I've become one of those free software nuts.
04:53 VanessaE told you so ;)
04:54 [0gb_us] If I hadn't turned into a free software nut though, I wouldn't be back.
04:54 VanessaE fair enough
04:54 [0gb_us] But it doned on me the implications of free software.
04:54 [0gb_us] Free software lets us build off the past. If all software were free, we'd be so much further along technology-wise.
04:55 VanessaE exactly - "I stand on the shoulders of giants" is still as valid today as when it was first uttered
04:55 VanessaE (Edison, wasn't it?)
04:55 [0gb_us] I don't know. I'm no good at history.
04:56 hoodedice haha
04:56 VanessaE heh
04:56 VanessaE no, not Edison
04:56 VanessaE not by a good 800 years :P
04:56 hoodedice Googled. It's Newton
04:57 VanessaE nope
04:57 VanessaE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sta​nding_on_the_shoulders_of_giants
04:57 VanessaE John of Salisbury, 1159
04:59 [0gb_us] I believe though that our ability to build off the past is granted to us only by our theory of mind. The theory of mind is the only thing that sets us apart from the other animals. The theory of mind states that we don't all share the same knowledge, a theory that other animals don't understand. Because we do, we attempt to learn from others so we can do better. This is why we have learned to build cities and computers and such. If
04:59 [0gb_us] we don't learn from past iterations of our kind, we cannot advance.
04:59 VanessaE exactly.
04:59 [0gb_us] Anyway, that's enough ranting from me.
04:59 [0gb_us] I wouldn't want to become annoying or anything.
05:00 VanessaE please
05:00 VanessaE you didn't go all lamefun on us :)
05:00 VanessaE so no annoyance :)
05:00 [0gb_us] Okay, true. He was somewhat amusing.
05:01 [0gb_us] I don't know if you heard, but I tried to go Trisquel, but that didn't work out. My old system need proprietary drivers, so I have to stick with Xubuntu for now.
05:02 [0gb_us] I did wipe Steam off my system though.
05:02 VanessaE yeah I thought I'd seen that in the scrollback
05:02 VanessaE I'm on Debian these days
05:02 [0gb_us] Debian doesn't like my system either.
05:02 VanessaE oh?
05:02 [0gb_us] It's all good though.
05:03 [0gb_us] On Debian, my Minetest FPS is one. Also, my wireless card won't stay online.
05:03 hoodedice xubuntu is good
05:03 hoodedice You arent *stuck* with it
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05:03 hoodedice Plus, ZWIZ I DIDNT READ THE REST !
05:03 VanessaE I haven't even tried my wireless card since going to Debian.  my fps is respectable usually, though
05:03 VanessaE hey Inocudom
05:04 [0gb_us] I can't run the systems I want to run, so I'm stuck with an alternative. Xubuntu isn't the only alternative though, true.
05:04 Inocudom Hello. Sometimes, this chat room is pretty empty.
05:04 VanessaE at this time of night, yeah
05:04 [0gb_us] Hello!
05:05 VanessaE Inocudom: from about 8pm to around 4am EST, it tends to be dead in here
05:05 Inocudom oOChainLynxOo made another video of Redcrab's server recently.
05:05 [0gb_us] Foolish people. Who needs sleep?
05:05 VanessaE cool
05:06 VanessaE too bad he's not playing on mine.  my server is 100x better than redcrab's ;)
05:06 VanessaE (ok so it barely has anything built, by comparison :P
05:06 * [0gb_us] shutters at unclosed paren
05:06 Inocudom That server has been having issues with griefing lately. Oxenfreedan might leave it if things don't improve. Looks like redcrab needs to check things out.
05:07 [0gb_us] )
05:07 VanessaE )
05:07 VanessaE http://xkcd.com/859/
05:07 VanessaE oblig.
05:07 VanessaE :)
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05:07 [0gb_us] True, true.
05:08 Inocudom Yes, I would like it very much if oOChainLynxOo did a video of your creative server, VanessaE.
05:09 VanessaE not the survival one? :(
05:09 [0gb_us] Oh? I saw your second server, but I didn't know it was survival.
05:09 VanessaE yep
05:09 Inocudom He could do that too, but the creative one has more buildings.
05:09 VanessaE true
05:10 VanessaE no one hardly plays on it anymore though
05:10 [0gb_us] I see it's on a more recent dev version as well.
05:10 aldobr that xkcd i specially true if you are a lisp programmer
05:11 Inocudom There are two or three other individuals that do videos for Minetest, but I don't hear of them much. They don't stand out as much as oOChainLynxOo does.
05:12 [0gb_us] VanessaE, your new server that I've never been to says I have the wrong password. Is there a default password, or is my name in use?
05:12 VanessaE I can reset it if you want
05:12 Inocudom Maybe if they did a video with oOChainLynxOo, they would.
05:12 [0gb_us] Nah, don't.
05:12 VanessaE someone might have used your name.
05:12 [0gb_us] It must be someone else with my name.
05:12 VanessaE in which case I'll reset it.
05:12 [0gb_us] (I type too slowly.)
05:12 [0gb_us] If they got to the name first, that's fine.
05:13 VanessaE no, it isn't fine with me.
05:13 [0gb_us] WHy is that?
05:13 VanessaE your name has a specific meaning, I won't have someone shadowing as you
05:13 [0gb_us] Okay, fair enough.
05:14 Inocudom One of the problems is that there doesn't seem to be many players on any of the servers these days. Where did everybody go? Summer will soon end, and school should have started.
05:14 aldobr redcrab server is bloated with leftovers from past eras
05:14 [0gb_us] They went home. No one has computers at home these days.
05:15 Inocudom The Xonotic community is also getting emptier.
05:16 [0gb_us] http://imageshack.us/photo/m​y-images/294/myhobbyzm2.png/
05:16 Inocudom Me, my mom, and her husband still have computers at our house. Of course, if anything happens to them, it will be years before we can replace them.
05:16 aldobr they liked minetest and thought "well minetest is just a test, lets get the real thing", and then all bought minecraft
05:16 aldobr :/
05:17 aldobr all becaue of a name ;9
05:17 [0gb_us] Meh. I tried Minecraft. I must say, I didn't like it before or after I flipped out.
05:19 Inocudom I would not like Minecraft at all. For one thing, its community... Well... http://whatculture.com/gaming/7-wor​st-online-gaming-communities.php/2
05:19 aldobr how they did that ? http://railcraft.wikispaces​.com/Tunnel+Bore+%28Cart%29
05:19 aldobr the blocky machine can be halfway between two nodes ?????!!!
05:19 aldobr is that possible with minetest ?
05:20 VanessaE it's probably an entity
05:20 VanessaE they can be anywhere, pointing any direction
05:20 Inocudom There are two mods for Minetest that do that.
05:20 VanessaE or whatever MC's equivalent is
05:20 aldobr hm
05:21 aldobr i like my TBM better, it can dig even on lava :P
05:21 VanessaE DanDuncombe made one also, his is on my server
05:22 aldobr its based on mine
05:22 aldobr he improved it
05:22 VanessaE oh ok
05:22 aldobr theres still a bug that i cant understand (the machine randonly changes direction)
05:22 Inocudom When Minetest gets better entity abm support, moving entities and mobs will work better.
05:22 VanessaE right now, entities need one thing and one thing only:  fix that G*d damned duplication bug.
05:23 Inocudom I hope that the carts will be part of the base game one day, but not until that happens.
05:23 Inocudom Oh, that bug is not fun at all.
05:24 aldobr we might as wall get render to texture and lua texture manipulation
05:24 [0gb_us] Especially at the end of the world, entity duplication is a real issue.
05:24 aldobr render to texture allows mirrors and cameras and lua texture manipulation allows computer screens
05:25 Inocudom I love mirrors and hope they work.
05:25 * [0gb_us] points Inocudom to a download mirror
05:26 Inocudom However, this community is quiet these days. Reminds me of the following song from Metroid Prime Hunters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnhjX​q9-Ui8&feature=player_detailpage
05:28 VanessaE we don't need more features.
05:28 VanessaE we need bug fixes
05:28 aldobr i want to help bug fixes but i need to get acquainted to the code
05:29 Inocudom Bugfixes are very important, especially ones that increase framerate (very important those are to oOChainLynxOo.)
05:29 [0gb_us] I'd have to agree with VanessaE. I was cool with the game even when it had less features, and it was always the bug fixes that were my favorite "new features" between versions.
05:32 aldobr i want to make a periodic table mod adding all elements from the real world periodic table (good lucky doing all that)
05:32 [0gb_us] That would be sweet!
05:32 aldobr theyt will occur as ores like real world ores and need chemical aparatus to be processed
05:33 aldobr i believe minetest needs an official set of elements and chemical reactions
05:33 aldobr from that we can make colors and metals
05:33 aldobr etc
05:34 [0gb_us] The only chemical reactions in Minetest I know of include water and lava or lava and burnables.
05:35 aldobr iron ore -> gusa iron -> wrought iron or iron ore -> gusa iron -> gusa iron + carbon + manganese -> steel
05:35 aldobr etc
05:35 aldobr not even minecraft is so detailed
05:35 [0gb_us] Detailed isn't always good though ....
05:36 aldobr and a lot of work
05:41 [0gb_us] ... someone made a bitcoin plugin.
05:41 aldobr bitcoin ?!?
05:41 [0gb_us] People are so weird.
05:41 [0gb_us] Yeah. With bitcoin ores.
05:41 [0gb_us] And bitcoin ingots.
05:42 aldobr ahhh
05:42 aldobr i tought they were using real bitcoin in game :P
05:42 [0gb_us] Oh, no, nothing like that.
05:42 aldobr i've made a coin mod that allowed one to make coins out of gold
05:43 aldobr and two machines that allowed buy/sell items with those coin
05:43 aldobr *coins
05:43 [0gb_us] I plan to add ore coins of all six types to my server.
05:45 aldobr we need a page where to draw "railroad diagrams" of material transformation
05:46 aldobr that railroad diagrams would be automatically changed into lua files of register_craft type
05:46 aldobr a set of tools for automatic content creation
05:46 aldobr allowing non-programmers to contribute
05:46 aldobr thats the philosophy behind the sproxel plugin i've made
05:53 Tiktalik i need to work on my project
05:53 Tiktalik i think it'd work well as a minetest fork/mod
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06:18 nore hi all
06:18 VanessaE hi
06:19 [0gb_us] Hello!
06:21 aldobr hi
06:31 [0gb_us] Check out the middle strip: http://xkcd.com/824/
06:40 VanessaE heh
06:40 VanessaE [0gb_us]: also, ##vanessae-servers is the IRC channel for my server.  you may wish to auto-join if you're gonna play on them much
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06:41 [0gb_us] I killed my auto-join list. I prefer Pidgin's method of storing favorite channels: as bookmarks, but XCat lacks that ability.
06:41 [0gb_us] *XChat
06:41 VanessaE that works, too
06:42 [0gb_us] Well, it would work, if I had that option.
06:44 [0gb_us] 'Wikipedia trivia: if you take any article, click on the first link in the article text not in parentheses or italics, and then repeat, you will eventually end up at "Philosophy".'
06:44 [0gb_us] I just tried it, and it worked in the one case I tried.
06:45 [0gb_us] I didn't think it would work.
06:47 nore [0gb_us]: I made a loop
06:47 nore begin with "Greek"
06:47 [0gb_us] I thought I might end up in a loop, but didn't. I guess that disproves the "trivia".
06:48 nore my loop does not even include "Philosophy"
06:48 nore you can try with "Greek", the loop is fairly long
06:50 [0gb_us] I started at "Greek" and ended up at "Philosophy".
06:50 nore sorry, you have to start at Greek_language
06:52 kahrl huh. is it known that the main menu serverlist misreads some flags?
06:52 nore oops, forgotten the rule about parenthesis
06:53 kahrl for example the first entry (Vazon Server) has a "C" while it is a survival serevr
06:53 kahrl server*
06:54 [0gb_us] I made it from "Greek_language" as well.
06:54 kahrl seems to be because its json is "creative":"0"
06:54 kahrl the code treats every string that is not empty as true
06:57 nore [0gb_us]: I had forgotten the parenthesis, that's why I looped
06:58 [0gb_us] Oh, got it.
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07:15 sfan5 wow
07:15 sfan5 you can actually get from the XTEA article in Wikipedia to Philosophy
07:15 sfan5 hi everyone
07:16 [0gb_us] Hello!
07:16 [0gb_us] It's probably a rule in the Wikipedia content guidelines somewhere. All articles must lead to Philosophy.
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07:21 jojoa1997 hello
07:21 [0gb_us] Hello!
07:21 jojoa1997 [0gb_us] where have you been? I havenmt seen you in a while.
07:21 [0gb_us] I've been ... away.
07:21 [0gb_us] I'm back though. Maybe.
07:22 [0gb_us] The results are inconclusive.
07:22 jojoa1997 away as in a break from minetest
07:22 [0gb_us] Away as in I completely quit. I wasn't going to come back at all, but I had a couple Epiphanies.
07:23 [0gb_us] Decapitalize that. It isn't a proper noun.
07:23 jojoa1997 yeah i did the same thing for the last two months
07:23 jojoa1997 then i decided to check up on things cause i might still like it
07:24 [0gb_us] I'm doing an overhaul on the game, then updating my server. Though the lag there is still horrible, so people probably shouldn't go there.
07:25 jojoa1997 maybe you should start with a new map
07:25 jojoa1997 i know rarkenin left
07:26 jojoa1997 and the girl who's name had bear in it(to tired to remembber) hasnt said anything on the forums since you left so i guess both are gone and then a restart for the server might be good
07:27 [0gb_us] He turned out to be an identity thief, so good ridens. He wasn't even the real rarkenin.
07:27 [0gb_us] Bearbar123.
07:28 jojoa1997 so the rarkenin we knew wasnt really rarkenin
07:29 [0gb_us] Right.
07:29 jojoa1997 so that guy could have been a stalker for all we know
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07:31 [0gb_us] He isn't a stocker, I don't think. He's just some guy that blackmailed the real rarkenin into handing over the name.
07:32 jojoa1997|Tablet oh
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07:36 jojoa1997 So 0gb.us will you be restarting your server which i think is a very good idea
07:37 [0gb_us] And lose what people have made? I promised not to do that, so doing it anyway seems like a bad idea.
07:37 [0gb_us] Once I manage to get a modern computer, I'll make a new world. And keep the old.
07:38 jojoa1997 oh
07:38 Calinou :o [0gb_us] is back
07:38 [0gb_us] Maybe.
07:38 jojoa1997 maybe you could put a download of the current world adn then start a new one?
07:39 [0gb_us] I had a couple epiphanies, so I returned.
07:39 [0gb_us] Starting a new one isn't happening until I modernize my setup.
07:40 jojoa1997 ok
07:40 * jojoa1997 misses the minetest_game only stuff
07:41 [0gb_us] The new world will have more than just minetest_game stuff. I have big plans for that place.
07:42 jojoa1997 like what
07:42 nore technic_game?
07:42 jojoa1997 no that crashes all the time for me
07:42 jojoa1997 but technic would be nice
07:42 [0gb_us] No. 0gb.us_game, but with a MAJOR overhaul.
07:42 jojoa1997 like what
07:42 nore jojoa, why does it crash?
07:43 jojoa1997 pipeworks
07:43 nore and why?
07:43 jojoa1997 idk why but pipeworks crash
07:43 nore make a bug report then
07:43 jojoa1997 and how does that make you feel?
07:43 jojoa1997 and how does that person make you feel?
07:43 jojoa1997 and how does that game make you feel?
07:43 nore could you give me the last lines of debug.txt?
07:43 jojoa1997 what am i in therapy?
07:44 jojoa1997 nore i am using Vanessae_game now and her pipes work and i am too tired to reproduce the error
07:44 [0gb_us] "Old Miner's Chest"s will appear at times, full of loot. Though I can't say what makes them appear. You'll have to not know or have to read the source code. I'm also adding some sort of rubble node (six types) and a bunch of other new nodes.
07:44 nore jojoa, did you just try to update pipeworks?
07:45 jojoa1997 what about adding BlockMen's mines mod?
07:45 Calinou forum has 100,000 posts :o
07:45 jojoa1997 nore please dont ask me to fix it i am very tired but cant fall asleep
07:45 * jojoa1997 is 4th most posts
07:46 [0gb_us] Whas the "mines mod" question directed at me?
07:47 nore [0gb_us], is isn't on github now, is it?
07:47 jojoa1997 go to blockmens topics in the forum and look at all of blockmen's mods
07:47 [0gb_us] What isn't, 0gb.us_game? No, it isn't. I don't have even a single line of code written for it yet.
07:47 khonkhortisan It should be relatively easy to add a flatland option to in-client world creation, no?
07:48 nore khonkhortisan, yes
07:48 [0gb_us] Seems simple to me, but I don't know C++ yet.
07:48 khonkhortisan ok
07:48 khonkhortisan I think it would be lua at this point, with the new menu
07:48 nore there is lua mainmenu now
07:49 jojoa1997 they add very nice touches even if they kinda originate from minecraft(mines with chests,pyramids,3d torches,gates)
07:49 jojoa1997 yes
07:49 [0gb_us] The main menu is in Lua now? Nice!
07:49 jojoa1997 idk
07:49 nore [0gb_us], yes, and with texture pack selection
07:49 khonkhortisan I had the release revision written down
07:49 jojoa1997 i swore i saw a laumenu.lua somewhere
07:50 khonkhortisan builtin/mainmenu.lua
07:50 jojoa1997 finally they took my idea
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07:50 [0gb_us] Texture pack selection ... THings have changed in my absence.
07:50 khonkhortisan mine too
07:50 jojoa1997 i had been buggin about texturepacks for a month or two
07:50 jojoa1997 and
07:50 nore I'm happy texture pack selection is a feature that people like, because I coded it ;)
07:51 khonkhortisan I came back to an empty world list and had to fix a bug
07:51 jojoa1997 as i remember they thought my way of having texturepacks in their own folder was stupid even though that is the default way now
07:51 * jojoa1997 finds nore in RL and gives him/her a BIG HUG
07:52 khonkhortisan in their own folder is the only right way
07:52 jojoa1997 yes
07:52 [0gb_us] Oh, nice! THat should make a lot of people happy.
07:52 khonkhortisan it keeps them separate, revision-control compatible and everything
07:52 jojoa1997 0gb also
07:52 jojoa1997 there is bumpmapping(3d loook)
07:53 * jojoa1997 pokes VanessaE
07:53 VanessaE ow.
07:53 jojoa1997 VAnessaE you texturepack normal maps need more variation from blue to red
07:53 nore jojoa: doesn't work for everyone
07:53 jojoa1997 currently it doesnt look 3d at all
07:53 VanessaE no, they don't.
07:53 khonkhortisan so higher bumps?
07:53 jojoa1997 yes
07:53 VanessaE that's not how they work.
07:53 khonkhortisan or more graduated?
07:53 jojoa1997 yeah
07:54 jojoa1997 look at haven versus yours
07:54 khonkhortisan it can only look 3d until you hit the edge
07:54 [0gb_us] What is bump mapping?
07:54 khonkhortisan hehe
07:54 khonkhortisan what is bump mapping.
07:54 VanessaE haven's bumpmaps are overly strong.
07:54 khonkhortisan it's cool!
07:54 VanessaE [0gb_us]: it's a way of giving 3d surface detail to a flat surface using only an image
07:54 jojoa1997 VanessaE i enabled bump mapping and thought i broke it because i couldnt tell the difference with and without
07:54 nore bumpmapping is perturbing the normals to the surfaces to give an impression of 3d
07:55 khonkhortisan [0gb_us], https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_mapping look at the edges of the red spheres
07:55 [0gb_us] Ah, I see. I'll have to look into that before continuing the textures I'm building.
07:55 VanessaE lighting is calculated and reflected off of the map depending on your view angle and that of the light, creating highlights and shadows that don't exist in the original texture
07:55 jojoa1997 so what i am saying is maybe add a little more areas of higher bumps to add a 3d look
07:55 khonkhortisan bumpmapping makes it appear as if there are bumps, but it can't affect the visual edge of an object
07:55 VanessaE jojoa1997: that's as it should be.  the "3d look" will become far more pronounced once parallax mapping goes in
07:55 jojoa1997 0gb also there is a mods tab
07:56 VanessaE jojoa1997: I want my normalmaps to be very subtle
07:56 jojoa1997 ok
07:56 khonkhortisan I put some mods (moretrees, animals_modpack, flowers...) into their own folder so I can disable them as one big modpack when I want a clean world
07:56 [0gb_us] I think I saw that tab before I left.
07:56 jojoa1997 i just thought that a little more variation on stuff  like cobble would look nice
07:57 VanessaE jojoa1997: I will rework them as needed later, after the parallax mapping goes in.
07:57 jojoa1997 Dab
07:57 jojoa1997 0gb
07:57 jojoa1997 you can also download mods from the client
07:57 [0gb_us] Oh, nice!
07:58 [0gb_us] From where?
07:58 jojoa1997 idr
07:58 khonkhortisan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZPsQtlHthQ weird, man.
07:58 jojoa1997 i dont remember
07:58 khonkhortisan The surface looks like it has ridges, which don't connect with the ridges on the other side of the cube edge
07:58 [0gb_us] Hmm. THis changes everything .... I'll have to code this differently.
07:58 nore [0gb_us], this is mmdb, though there are only a few mods on it now, and you need a build with curl enabled
07:59 khonkhortisan If I can download mods from the client, can I tell my client to git pull?
07:59 jojoa1997 there was alot added
07:59 [0gb_us] How do you add to this "mmdb"?
07:59 jojoa1997 there is a topic on hte forum
08:00 nore [0gb_us], you go to https://forum.minetest.net/mmdb/ and click "Add a mod"
08:00 jojoa1997 Also 0gb remeber your skin with the ores
08:00 khonkhortisan my mod download scrollbar won't scroll
08:00 khonkhortisan oh nevermind it was just frozen
08:00 nore khonkhortisan, you need to use the arrows
08:00 nore the scroll doesn't scroll
08:00 jojoa1997 well you dont have to worry about me using it i made a new one
08:01 [0gb_us] You can keep using it. It was never a problem.
08:01 jojoa1997 no 0gb i have a new skin
08:01 khonkhortisan the mod database needs mesecons!!!
08:01 jojoa1997 as in i made one that i like alot
08:02 jojoa1997 minetest needs mesecons
08:02 khonkhortisan mesecons need worldedit too
08:02 khonkhortisan the more wires the better
08:02 jojoa1997 /pos1
08:02 [0gb_us] I would make one, but I still can't come up with anything symmetrical that I would want. I need arms and legs that don't match.
08:02 jojoa1997 /pos2
08:03 jojoa1997 /replace "all" "mesecons:wire_00000000"
08:03 khonkhortisan /stack, //copy, //move, //set air bleh!
08:03 khonkhortisan I only use the regular wire when I need a four-way intersection
08:03 * jojoa1997 uses redstone
08:03 khonkhortisan I've never tried redstone
08:03 jojoa1997 i like it
08:04 khonkhortisan is it in classic mc?
08:04 jojoa1997 btw 0gb i bought minecraft muwhahhaha
08:04 khonkhortisan google says no
08:05 khonkhortisan my eyes are having trouble blinking, it's morning now
08:05 jojoa1997 redstone is better in the fact that since it is all java it runs faster with the game
08:05 khonkhortisan but they don't have the Null Cell on us anymore
08:05 jojoa1997 <khonkhortisan>:what time
08:05 khonkhortisan 1:05
08:05 jojoa1997 what is Null Cell
08:05 khonkhortisan I can go about another hour
08:06 jojoa1997 <khonkhortisan>:4:05 here
08:06 khonkhortisan it's a left-right wire and a forward-back wire in the same node but they aren't connected
08:06 jojoa1997 oh 0gb can i be the new moderator on your server
08:06 [0gb_us] I'm quiting proprietary gaming, so I'm not going anywhere near Minecraft.
08:07 jojoa1997 there is the answer i was expecting
08:07 khonkhortisan I plan on hacking TeamSpeak to add linux text-to-speech
08:07 [0gb_us] Okay, I can do that. If we can get the server to take it, it'r runnig slow.
08:07 [0gb_us] *running
08:08 jojoa1997 what is the ip
08:08 jojoa1997 and since you were supposed to be gone for good who has kept it running
08:08 khonkhortisan ...
08:09 [0gb_us] I don't know my IP offhand. Not since my ISP changed it.
08:09 jojoa1997 so it isnt 0gb.us
08:09 [0gb_us] I've had it running, I just haven't been online.
08:09 [0gb_us] That's not an IP address.
08:09 khonkhortisan I clicked Mods→Install, then I pressed the [X]. I went back, pressed Cancel. I went back again and pressed Escape, and my game went away.
08:09 jojoa1997 dun dun dunnnnnnn
08:09 [0gb_us] 0gb.us is the address, just not the IP address.
08:10 jojoa1997 i always wonder why there are so many people in irc that never speak
08:10 khonkhortisan we like reading the scrollback
08:10 jojoa1997 lol
08:11 [0gb_us] Okay, the server took it, after several minutes.
08:13 khonkhortisan Now I can splurge on my texture packs without the threat of getting stuck with one
08:14 [0gb_us] I only use one anyway. I set it in the conf and forget it.
08:14 jojoa1997 splurge?
08:14 khonkhortisan But you can set in in the client
08:14 jojoa1997 0gb you can set multiple in the client
08:14 * jojoa1997 wishes that there could be a way to set it ingame
08:14 khonkhortisan splurge meaning more buying many of them and meaning less of the spending part
08:15 nore jojoa: not possible
08:15 jojoa1997 yes it is
08:15 [0gb_us] It would be possible, but would lead to complications.
08:15 jojoa1997 nore what happens is you chnage the textures and then have the player reloda the world
08:16 khonkhortisan I wish I could toggle fullscreen, change key controls, umm I don't have that ipv6 problem anymore, I'll have to fill in this list some more
08:16 nore you would have to reload the textures, etc so you would have a load time, etc.
08:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan:  [09-02 04:18] <VE-Survival> <webdesigner97> Vanessa, can you add a craftrecipe for digilines?
08:16 VanessaE suggestions?
08:17 nore look at technic_game
08:17 nore there is a mod called digilines_craftrecipes
08:17 khonkhortisan I always play creative/worldedit when I do any serious mesecons/digilines
08:17 khonkhortisan I know few of the survival recipes
08:18 khonkhortisan What about an insulated wire plus uninsulated?
08:18 VanessaE I'd have chosen to use several insulated wires.
08:18 khonkhortisan makes more sense your way
08:18 VanessaE maybe four of those plus another bundle of insulation, yields 4 digilines wires
08:19 khonkhortisan another bundle keeps it away from recipe conflicts
08:19 VanessaE (since it's basically I2C, so I guess that's data, control, power, ground?)
08:19 khonkhortisan lol
08:19 VanessaE *checks wiki*
08:19 VanessaE an
08:19 VanessaE data, CLOCK, power, ground duh
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08:20 [0gb_us] Hello!
08:20 khonkhortisan to have to look up how many wires there are in a wire just to create one in a game
08:21 VanessaE I believe it's three uninsulated + 6 insulation = 3 insulated
08:22 VanessaE so that's effectively 9 insulation + 4 uninsulated wires = 4 digilines
08:22 khonkhortisan oh yeah, I remember I wanted to make all wires use 6d facedir
08:22 VanessaE oh boy
08:22 khonkhortisan You could make a game board on the ground
08:23 khonkhortisan but there's only 9 spots for crafting total
08:25 jojoa1997 bye gotta start my day cya
08:27 nore khonkhortisan, look at digilines_converters in technic_game
08:28 nore it might me useful
08:28 nore s/me/be
08:28 khonkhortisan are they also in technic mod?
08:28 nore basically, it is simple converter between digilines and mesecons signals
08:28 nore no, there are not in technic
08:28 VanessaE they*
08:29 nore I could have made a repo for them, but for now, they are only in technic_game
08:29 khonkhortisan I said they :P I'm just kidding
08:31 khonkhortisan g'night y'all
08:32 [0gb_us] G'night!
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08:41 SMelly Hello Hello
08:42 SMelly What is a quick way for an admin to claim a large amount of land
08:42 SMelly Hey BrandonReese nice to see you in IRC
08:50 [0gb_us] SMelly, it depends on what claiming plugin you are using.
08:51 SMelly landrush
08:51 [0gb_us] If I recall correctly which one that is, I don't think there is a way.
08:52 SMelly The one with the little blue boxes
08:53 SMelly I tried to world edit a bunch across
08:53 SMelly it did not work
08:53 SMelly sadly
08:54 SMelly welll ty
08:54 [0gb_us] I just Googled it, and I'm afraid there isn't a way, unless something was added that I don't know about. I know the plugin that one was derived from, but I haven't used landrush itself yet.
08:54 SMelly ah
08:54 SMelly Well thank you for all the help
08:54 SMelly i am off to see the wizard noew
08:54 SMelly now*
08:54 SMelly I heard he got cable
08:54 [0gb_us] Good luck!
08:54 SMelly Thank you
08:55 SMelly Take care
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09:59 john_minetest Hello everypony.
09:59 VanessaE hi
10:00 john_minetest Question: Background music in minetest - what's about that? Jordach wrote a melody that could fit once iirc.
10:01 VanessaE there's already a function for that by way of the ambiance mod I think
10:01 VanessaE but definitely not
10:01 * VanessaE prefers her own selection of music
10:02 john_minetest Background music could add something to the game. Of course modpacks could change the music but only walking around without having music is less interesting.
10:02 john_minetest When in a cave there is not only the darkness but also music it could make it more frightening.
10:03 pitriss VanessaE: yeah.. music on some servers get on my nerves:D
10:03 kahrl I like how in MC the peaceful piano music tends to start playing when you're amidst a horde of every mob possible
10:03 pitriss VanessaE: and worst thing about it is that it cannot be disabled in client
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10:16 nore Calinou: https://github.com/Calinou/moreores/pull/4
10:16 e1z0 i
10:16 e1z0 hi
10:17 nore hi
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10:39 john_minetest Yeah, there should be a "sound" and a "music" option where the volume can be set (0-100%)
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11:44 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:54 Jordach btw, mod suggestion: http://imgur.com/gallery/vRzYG
12:03 PilzAdam the Katar is not unusual, its in Diablo 2
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12:51 Jordach andersje, living in (or near?) minnesota?
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12:56 nothoodedice So...
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12:58 * Jordach slaps nothoodedice
12:58 nothoodedice OW!
12:58 nothoodedice Wut?
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13:00 * Jordach pets MinetestBot
13:00 Jordach !op
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13:23 e1z0 any guide about running private dedicated server of minetest ?
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13:27 proller install, run.
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13:51 bas080 Prototype for the nyan world stats webpage https://dl.dropboxusercontent​.com/u/419967/nyan/index.html
14:04 NekoGloop bas you griefer
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14:12 PilzAdam bbl
14:17 bas080 NekoGloop, it doesn't mean griefing perse. I'm an admin so sometimes instead of using rollback i fix it by digging.
14:17 NekoGloop I figured as much
14:17 NekoGloop griefing the griefers, per se.
14:18 bas080 i love doing rollback while there doing there grief.
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14:21 kaeza mornings
14:22 Exio4 hai kaeza :D
14:22 kaeza sup Exio4
14:23 * NekoGloop noms kaeza
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14:25 Erikas0012 Minetest anyone?
14:26 NekoGloop no
14:26 LazyJ Does anyone know if better shadows are in the works for Minetest?
14:27 NekoGloop There are shadows?
14:27 kaeza yes, Shadow Ninja
14:27 kaeza :D
14:27 kaeza actually no
14:27 LazyJ For example, I've noticed upsidedown stairs have no contrast to better show depth.
14:28 LazyJ I
14:28 NekoGloop That's because of the wierd lighting system
14:28 NekoGloop You might have also noticed that light goes through stairs to some extent
14:28 LazyJ From a short distance there is no visible difference between a stair and it's full-block counterpart.
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14:29 LazyJ Aye, I've used the weird illumination to make things glow around the edges.
14:30 NekoGloop Nodeboxes, the things that are used to make stairs look like stairs, require light to pass through the node
14:30 LazyJ I've noticed there are three shader test folders in the /client/shader folder. Are they functional or just there for testing?
14:30 NekoGloop Well if they're called "shader test folders" then they're probably for testing
14:31 LazyJ Ah, sorry for the topic jump, NekoGloop.
14:31 NekoGloop It's somewhat related
14:31 NekoGloop Still minetest graphics :P
14:31 LazyJ Ah. I was wondering if there was a conf setting I missed or didn't have right.
14:32 NekoGloop A conf setting for the stairs to look nice?
14:32 NekoGloop Yeah no.
14:34 LazyJ Stairs were the most recent thing I was working with. There are other light and shadow things that still need improvement/tweaking.
14:34 NekoGloop same with my treasure chests, homedecor's nearly-everything, etc, everything else that isn't a full node
14:34 e1z0 minetest support minecraft worlds ?
14:34 e1z0 :O
14:35 NekoGloop e1z0, With a converter, minecraft classic maps -can- be imported, yes.
14:35 e1z0 oh
14:35 e1z0 where can i get the converter ?
14:35 LazyJ Is the limitation because the nodebox code (or any other Minetest code) can't handle the graphic effects or is it because to write the code for it is a gargantuan undertaking?
14:35 NekoGloop No idea.
14:36 NekoGloop LazyJ, It's because celeron is a derp
14:37 LazyJ I gather a "derp" isn't a good thing. ;)
14:37 NekoGloop and nobody's fixed his derpiness yet
14:37 NekoGloop It's probably not even incredibly difficult to fix, you'd just have to find where to fix it :P
14:38 LazyJ If I had the code savvy, I'd work on it myself.
14:38 NekoGloop I don't know C++. :3
14:38 LazyJ Just one of many things on the Minetest to-do list.
14:39 NekoGloop Minetest to-do list: Improve lighting, make game fast.
14:40 NekoGloop :P
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14:52 jojoa1997 Will normal maps of the default textures be added to minetest?
14:53 jojoa1997 As in bump mapping
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14:56 sfan5 jojoa1997: they look bad with low resolution textures(16x)
14:57 jojoa1997 Sfan5 so what
14:57 philipbenr yes I noticed. I saw the example in ReallyBadAngel's topic. So we are just implementing bump-mapping, right?
14:57 jojoa1997 Most people won't use it then
14:58 sfan5 jojoa1997: they won'get added because they look bad with default textures
14:58 sfan5 won't get*
14:58 philipbenr I will with a texture pack.
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15:05 e1z0 why in creative mode i can't destroy blocks ?
15:06 e1z0 only create, is there any option for the server config to enable it ?
15:06 Calinou you hold the left mouse button
15:06 Calinou nodes aren't destroy instantly ;)
15:07 e1z0 ah ok
15:07 e1z0 thanks
15:13 nore <nore> Calinou, https://github.com/Calinou/moreores/pull/4
15:13 nore <nore> I coded a bit fast, and had forgotten to test
15:13 nore <nore> so that fixes: a syntax error, a nil error and a "ore not generating" error
15:14 Calinou merged
15:15 nore and you can close pull 3 too, it looks like it was an attempt to fix this, but it wouldn't work
15:17 Jordach Peacock, new auto ban suggestion: youtube advertisers; with nicks like: "thisguy643_youtube"
15:18 Peacock im thinking of a keyword list yeah, anything with 'minecraft','minetest','xXx', etc. lol
15:18 Jordach Peacock, oh, and make sure you allow people to record videos of your server
15:18 Jordach (well, s/you/your choice
15:18 Jordach )
15:18 Peacock trickier one might be coming up with a regex for NaMeSlIkEtHiS
15:18 Jordach Peacock, ignore caps and lower case
15:19 Peacock why would i not let them make videos? its their desktop, they can record what they want lol
15:19 Jordach just run a: if lower then upper; ban()
15:19 Peacock though from what i understand theres only one mt player who does YT vids
15:19 Calinou <Peacock> trickier one might be coming up with a regex for NaMeSlIkEtHiS
15:19 Calinou some people have such name and can not act like kids
15:19 Calinou eg. RaZgRiZ :P
15:19 Calinou some guy from #redeclipse
15:19 nore Peacock, do a if 0.25<#upper/#lower<0.75 then BAN
15:20 Peacock ugh, its even painful on the eyes lol
15:21 Peacock well in regex i guess that would... ([a-z][A-z])+  ?
15:21 nore ehh, actually if 0.25<#upper/(#upper+#lower)0.75
15:21 nore Peacock, my name is AbCdEfGhi
15:21 nore not matched
15:21 Peacock hm,
15:22 nore my suggestion works well
15:22 Peacock well it would look for a repeating pattern, so it would still match no?
15:22 Peacock even with the extra lowercase i at the end
15:22 Peacock i wouldn't specify the beginning/end symbols (^ and $ i think?)
15:23 nore or even if 0.25<#upper/length then BAN
15:23 nore and what if I'm called AbcDefGhiJklMnoPqrS ?
15:23 nore or ABcDEfGHiJKlM ?
15:24 Peacock or i could do the opposite and specify one regex for acceptable names like ([A-Z]?[a-z])+   ?
15:25 nore perhaps [A-Z?][a-z]+[0-9]{0:2}
15:25 Peacock could work since i only allow two digits
15:25 nore your patterm matches AbCdEf for now
15:26 nore at least, remove the parenthesises
15:26 Peacock well alot of names are also two words
15:27 Peacock ([A-Z?][a-z][a-z]+)+[0-9]{0:2}
15:27 Peacock ?
15:28 nore change the second "+" to {1:3}
15:31 e1z0 is there any flying mode on minetest ?
15:32 e1z0 i cannot find in the documentation
15:32 Jordach e1z0, /grant singleplayer all
15:32 Jordach then press k to fly
15:32 e1z0 i mean multiplayer :O
15:32 Peacock ([A-Z?][a-z][a-z]+){1:3}[0-9]{0:2}
15:32 Peacock ?
15:33 Jordach e1z0, nope, the server admin has to grant you the ability to fly
15:33 e1z0 i'm the admin
15:33 NekoGloop /grant n00b fly
15:33 e1z0 lol
15:33 e1z0 ok
15:34 e1z0 your privileges are insufficient
15:34 e1z0 hmm
15:34 e1z0 what can i do more ?
15:34 Jordach e1z0, /grant e1z0 fly, fast, noclip
15:35 Jordach e1z0, are you logged in from the same machine as the server or somewhere else
15:35 e1z0 not the same machine
15:35 Jordach (the true server admin is the person who logs in at the same location of the server)
15:35 Jordach otherwise, nobody else gets admin, not even the first joined playet
15:35 Jordach player*
15:36 e1z0 is there any workaround for that ?
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15:36 e1z0 maybe telneting to it ?
15:37 e1z0 or maybe i can modify the source so that my nick name can get privileges at login ?
15:41 e1z0 hmm
15:41 e1z0 maybe i can set it to auth.txt ?
15:41 kaeza e1z0, the player named in the `name' variable in the server config automatically gets all privs
15:42 e1z0 oh
15:42 e1z0 ok
15:42 kaeza so if you have access to the server's minetest.conf, set name=<your-in-game-name>
15:43 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB33EF8ZuNo
15:43 e1z0 yeah, i have all acceess
15:43 e1z0 thanks for the support
15:43 e1z0 :-)
15:43 kaeza np :)
15:44 e1z0 but it works specifying fly on the auth.txt too
15:45 e1z0 btw, nice to have an opensource clone of minecraft
15:45 e1z0 the damn java of that shit sucks
15:45 e1z0 :|
15:45 e1z0 minecraft will be good if it was not based on java
15:46 kaeza Soon: Minecraft tries to be a proprietary clone of Minetest :D
15:46 e1z0 lol
15:46 e1z0 indeed
15:47 e1z0 if i could covert my world from minecraft to minetest
15:47 e1z0 it would be very great
15:48 Jordach classic or vanilla
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15:49 e1z0 vanilla, 1.4.7 version
15:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:49 e1z0 i'm usiing bukkit server with it
15:49 nore e1z0, there are a few things on the forum that do that
15:49 Calinou hi
15:49 Jordach e1z0, talk to sfan5, he has a world converter
15:49 e1z0 nore i read about filters
15:49 e1z0 on mcedit
15:49 e1z0 but i can't convert entire world
15:49 e1z0 it's huge
15:49 nore however, some nodes can't be converted
15:49 nore so you will have to choose what they are converted too (if it is vanilla)
15:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:49 Jordach Prestotron562, disable shaders
15:50 nore because you have an old version of OpenGL
15:50 Jordach and don't use Direct3D9 with shaders
15:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:50 e1z0 hmm
15:50 e1z0 ok
15:50 e1z0 sfan5 are you online ?
15:50 Jordach Prestotron562, shaders only work on more recent GPUs with OpenGL
15:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:51 nore e1z0, he was there 1 hour ago
15:51 Calinou shaders enhance graphics in general
15:51 nore dunno if he is still around
15:51 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:51 e1z0 i can wait, i have time :-)
15:51 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:52 nore when you mean come out, is it first version?
15:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:53 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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15:54 nore the first commit on github was 2010-10-21
15:54 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:54 nore sorry, 2010-11-21
15:55 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:55 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:56 Calinou suddenly: virality
15:57 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:57 Calinou by actually making them instead of dreaming of them
15:57 nore make a good game, free and open source
15:57 Calinou with decent graphics
15:58 nore and ask distro makers to put them
15:58 nore in the distros
15:58 Calinou won't work
15:58 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:58 Calinou you can be in distro repos and not be popular, and inversely
15:58 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:58 Calinou and some distro repo maintainers are... annoying
15:58 Calinou also most people use windows
15:59 Prestotron562 [deleted]
15:59 Calinou yet you use it
15:59 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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16:02 * Jordach realized i'm still OP
16:02 Calinou !deop Jordach
16:02 Calinou wubi sucks, too
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16:03 Jordach Prestotron562, you're still relying on windows
16:04 Jordach i can remove the w7 partition right now and i can just use mint
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16:06 OldCoder jojoa1997, Hi
16:06 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:07 OldCoder Prestotron562, nice nick
16:07 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:07 * OldCoder is never sarcastic and would prefer :) to :/
16:07 * OldCoder is sort of literal
16:08 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:08 OldCoder o/
16:08 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:09 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:10 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:11 e1z0 is mcedit capable to edit minetest world ?
16:12 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:12 OldCoder Prestotron562, Not awkward. It is the tides of IRC.
16:12 thexyz sfan5: were there colors in formspecs in 0.4.7?
16:13 OldCoder thexyz, Hello. My worlds are back after a month or so away. Migrated to fast new server. BTW We're hoping to see LevelDB merged. Then we may fork or spoon. I'm going to revert changes that prevent backwards compatibility.
16:13 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:13 OldCoder I don't wish to see old worlds die
16:13 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/ZrX9A0o.png
16:14 OldCoder R
16:14 OldCoder That is Sam, Jordach?
16:14 kaeza Prestotron562, that's usually how it works, yes
16:14 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:14 Jordach OldCoder, modified skin
16:14 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:15 OldCoder Jordach, is his name Sam?
16:15 kaeza at least in the open source scene
16:15 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:15 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:16 OldCoder Prestotron562, there are a few people who build it
16:16 OldCoder They feel it had some charm
16:16 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:16 OldCoder No; early versions of MT
16:16 Peacock the oldest still being developed is mt classic i think
16:16 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:16 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:16 OldCoder Hmm. Peacock link for MT Classic?
16:17 Peacock http://minetest-classic.com/
16:17 Jordach http://minetest-classic.com
16:17 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:17 Jordach fuck, ninja'd
16:17 OldCoder ty
16:17 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:17 OldCoder Ninjas are fun
16:17 Peacock would actually be an excellent place to try the binary api idea that was floated here a few days ago
16:17 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:18 OldCoder Jordach, Peacock, Prestotron562 I shall need to run a MT Classic World
16:18 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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16:19 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:19 Jordach <3 http://www.wolframalpha.com/
16:19 proller Prestotron562, server_announce = 1
16:20 kaeza LOL https://github.com/minetest/minetest​/diff_blob/4e249fb3fbf75f0359758760d​88e22aa5b14533c/data/tf.jpg?raw=true
16:20 Peacock i could never use mt classic though, way too many nodeboxes in my game, and now with upside-down (6d) placement too lol
16:20 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:20 kaeza so that was the original player sprite? :P
16:20 Peacock im thinking of switching back to the original 2d player sprite :P
16:21 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:21 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:21 e1z0 lol
16:22 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:22 Peacock FreeFull chat here, i barely glance at terminal lol
16:24 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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16:27 kaeza ಠ_ಠ
16:27 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:27 john_minetest _
16:27 nore kaeza, what were those characters?
16:27 nore can't see them
16:28 john_minetest Lol, alt-k doesn't work for those
16:28 sfan5 wat
16:28 OldCoder Prestotron562, Freenode discourages logging but this channel is logged
16:28 OldCoder Actually much of this is in Google
16:28 sfan5 thexyz: IIRC yes
16:28 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:28 kaeza nore, http://i1110.photobucket.com/albums/h454/​thefluffyone93/tom_delay.jpg?t=1306039128
16:28 nore Prestotron562, loggingbot_ is there for that
16:28 OldCoder Prestotron562, there are bots running
16:28 sfan5 Prestotron562: magic
16:29 Peacock Prostatron562: black magic
16:29 nore kaeza, what's the hex for that character?
16:29 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:29 OldCoder Prestotron562, they can be done using short scripts in Python and Perl
16:29 nore !help
16:29 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestb​ot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
16:29 nore look at the repo
16:30 OldCoder http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2968408/​how-do-i-program-a-simple-irc-bot-in-python
16:30 OldCoder ^ Prestotron562
16:30 kaeza nore "\u0CA0_\u0CA0"
16:30 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:30 Peacock dont show him how to do that, one of hims asking questions is enough :p
16:31 OldCoder Peacock, his bot can provide answers. Plus we'll make it clear that excessive testing here is discouraged.
16:31 OldCoder Strongly
16:31 * kaeza has a bot in Lua that can run Lua code from IRC
16:31 OldCoder Bots that are too active tend to get shot on sight
16:32 OldCoder kaeza, that sounds useful
16:32 Peacock behind the chemical shed
16:32 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:33 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:33 OldCoder Prestotron562, I was referring to future bots
16:33 OldCoder Questions are O.K.
16:33 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:33 kaeza OldCoder, join ##mt-irc-mod for a demo if you want
16:34 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:34 OldCoder kaeza, just a brief one
16:34 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:34 sfan5 Prestotron562: goddamnit read the whole page/whatever before you ask
16:35 sfan5 you need to set up every bot differently
16:35 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:35 OldCoder Prestotron562, Hang on. I am reviewing kaeza's project. And take it one step at a time. Step 1, learn Python or Perl. Maybe Lua.
16:35 OldCoder Prestotron562, can you go learn Python?
16:35 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:35 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:35 sfan5 not enough
16:36 Prestotron562 [deleted]
16:37 sfan5 yes but thats bad
16:37 Jordach it teaches bad programming practices
16:37 OldCoder Prestotron562, you must understand what you are doing
16:37 OldCoder Each and every line if possible
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16:42 OldCoder Good luck
16:43 OldCoder Jordach, is the MT skin named Sam? Does it have a name or a claim to fame?
16:43 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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16:50 VanessaE hi
16:52 OldCoder VanessaE, Hi. Join ##mt-irc-mod
16:52 OldCoder Temporary Lua bot test
16:59 Jordach OldCoder, nope. that's me
17:00 e1z0 :O
17:00 OldCoder Jordach, all right
17:00 * e1z0 slaps sfan5 with minecraft>minetest world converter
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17:00 e1z0 can you share it ?
17:01 Jordach got any thoughts: http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_me​dia/media_entries/311/mystery.png
17:01 Jordach ^ will be uploading the finale later today
17:05 Peacock how to stop? ServerEnvironment::addActiveObjectRaw(): could not find block for storing id=213 statically...
17:06 Jordach OldCoder, http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_med​ia/media_entries/363/untitled.png
17:07 OldCoder R
17:08 OldCoder R #2
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17:08 OldCoder Jordach, what are they?
17:08 OldCoder The two images?
17:08 Jordach the first one was to see if anyone can remember early december #minetest
17:09 OldCoder And the 2nd?
17:09 Jordach MinetestBot isn't the first bot to be named Minetest-
17:09 Jordach OldCoder, it's a mimic chest
17:09 Jordach try to open it and you get a shock
17:09 OldCoder Ah
17:09 OldCoder And the MT family (I assume) ?
17:09 e1z0 sfan5 are you here ?
17:10 OldCoder e1z0, he is over in kaeza's bot testing channel
17:10 e1z0 :o
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17:11 OldCoder Jordach, what is the 2nd image; the group of 3 people?
17:11 Jordach you mean http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_me​dia/media_entries/311/mystery.png
17:11 OldCoder Yes
17:11 Jordach Sam I, MinetestBot and Sam II
17:12 OldCoder All right
17:12 OldCoder These are your work?
17:12 Jordach btw, i actually dug through half a years worth of logs to find that info
17:12 Jordach OldCoder, correct
17:12 OldCoder All right thanks
17:12 Jordach CC-BY-SA if you're asking
17:12 OldCoder I am thank you
17:13 Jordach i usually post images here, http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/
17:13 OldCoder Ah
17:13 OldCoder Nice
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17:19 PilzAdam Jordach, the outline in this image doesnt look good: http://i.imgur.com/qxX0iyK.png
17:19 Jordach PilzAdam, video will not have outlines
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17:36 iqualfragile we realy need 3d torches
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17:37 VanessaE G*d no
17:37 Prestotron562_ -.- The Minetest Bot is just phenny.
17:38 VanessaE 3d = the model sets the shape = I can't texture it to look "just right".
17:38 Prestotron562_ It's a premade Bot.
17:39 iqualfragile we need 3d torches and give modpacks the ability to overide models
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17:41 Prestotron562_ ....
17:42 VanessaE iqualfragile: well if the texture pack modifies the model on the client only, that would do
17:42 sfan5 e1z0: hm?
17:42 Prestotron562_ How do you run a .py file?
17:43 VanessaE Prestotron562_: with python
17:43 sfan5 Prestotron562_: with google
17:43 VanessaE :P
17:43 Prestotron562_ I'm installing Python VanessaE, But it fails everytime. Its taking 1 hour too. And what kind of Python. I'm downloading ActivePython
17:44 VanessaE idk what "kind", I use the one that comes with my OS
17:44 * VanessaE runs linux
17:44 sfan5 just download the normal python
17:44 Prestotron562_ What OS do you have?
17:44 sfan5 not activepython
17:44 Prestotron562_ Can I have a link to normal Python?
17:44 sfan5 http://www.python.org/download/
17:44 sfan5 is it really that hard to use google and your brain?
17:45 Prestotron562_ No I just prefer people explaining things. No need to make fun of me.
17:46 Prestotron562_ ummm... which one
17:46 Prestotron562_ Ihave Windows Vista 32 bit.
17:46 sfan5 the one that says Windows x86
17:46 Prestotron562_ K
17:47 Prestotron562_ 40 min left
17:48 Prestotron562_ 19, 25, 54, 32 min left
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17:48 Prestotron562_ Whats coming next in 0.4.8?
17:48 Jordach no idea </troll>
17:49 Prestotron562_ Ohk
17:49 Peacock more relevant question would be when lol
17:49 Prestotron562_ I havent seen much difference between 0.4.6 and .4.8
17:50 Prestotron562_ *0.4.7
17:50 VanessaE Prestotron562_: http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog
17:51 VanessaE there's been a LOT of changes
17:51 e1z0 :O
17:51 e1z0 sfan5 can you share worlds converter ?
17:52 e1z0 minecraft>minetest
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17:52 sfan5 e1z0: are you aware that it only support Minecraft classic?
17:52 e1z0 yeah
17:52 Peacock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOdjCb4LwQY
17:53 Prestotron562_ Computer says no *coughs*
17:53 sfan5 e1z0: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6007 its in the maps section of the forums
17:54 e1z0 it's not possible to convert the whole world ?
17:54 Jordach Prestotron562_, old news
17:55 Prestotron562_ Old news? What do you mean?
17:55 sfan5 e1z0: it is
17:55 e1z0 because if i try to to convert all the map selected objects mcedit becomes inresponsible
17:55 sfan5 well
17:55 sfan5 wait
17:55 sfan5 derp
17:55 sfan5 oops
17:55 sfan5 ..
17:55 sfan5 it DOES support Minecraft full version and you should do small chunks
17:56 Peacock dont you just hate irresponsible world editors :p
17:56 sfan5 do it in small chunks*
17:56 Prestotron562_ 7 min left for Python
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17:56 e1z0 hmm
17:57 e1z0 if i press ctrl+a and select the whole territory, it does not work ?
17:57 Prestotron562_ Back to 20 min DX
17:57 e1z0 it will not work*
17:57 Prestotron562_ 13.4/19.3 MB
17:58 sfan5 e1z0: try to do it in smaller parts
17:58 e1z0 hmm
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18:01 Prestotron562_ I think this is weird. Minetest doesnt have a register screen.
18:01 Prestotron562_ So how do you register? I just put in my usual account info and it worked 0-0
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18:03 kaeza Prestotron562_, srsly?
18:03 Jordach Fun fact: i join different servers with different guises
18:03 Prestotron562_ kaeza, Yes. There is no registartion screen, but its pretty much, first time you login, is the time you register.
18:04 kaeza Prestotron562_, there's no centralized account system in MT
18:05 Prestotron562_ So hacking isnt even hacking, whats the point of a password if its just entering something random
18:06 Jordach sfan5, e1z0: it's possible with voxelmanip
18:06 e1z0 how ?
18:06 sfan5 Jordach: it would have to write a huge lua code chunk for that
18:07 sfan5 well no
18:07 sfan5 WorldEdit does support voxelmanip
18:07 Jordach and what does that filter export as...?
18:07 VanessaE Prestotron562_: you don't register, as such
18:07 sfan5 worldedit schematic
18:07 sfan5 e1z0: wait.. it freezes.. just wait until its done
18:07 VanessaE Prestotron562_: when you connect to a minetest server, you are creating an account on THAT server only.
18:08 Prestotron562_ Oh I see
18:08 VanessaE minetest doesn't depend on a central user registry
18:08 VanessaE some servers require passwords, some don't, but no server that I know of shares its user list with any other
18:08 VanessaE nor do they share worlds.
18:08 VanessaE (though it is possible)
18:09 Prestotron562_ How do you setup a server? I see you have a server up?
18:09 Jordach there should be a test: a server that has three identical worlds: with different mods, and such, but all of them have the same seexc
18:09 Jordach seed*
18:09 VanessaE it's pretty simple really - you just have to configure your router or modem to allow incoming connections, create a world like usual, then run the server program with the appropriate options to point to the new world.
18:10 john_minetest All join #wolfgame when next round begins!
18:10 VanessaE configuring your router/modem/firewall is the hard part
18:10 VanessaE as that varies from computer to computer
18:12 kahrl huh, I thought you were selling minetest you should know this stuff
18:12 Prestotron562_ Selling?
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18:13 * Jordach high fives kahrl
18:14 Prestotron562_ Are you talking about the donations?
18:14 Prestotron562_ GTG bye
18:14 Jordach thank fuck, he's gone
18:15 nore bbl
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18:15 Jordach one does not simply get a ping timeout of 0.001 seconds
18:17 OldCoder That seems rather strict
18:19 TheLastProject Jordach: If it doesn't start with "Quit: ", it's a personal quit message :P
18:19 Jordach TheLastProject, haha
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18:50 * Jordach drops the bass
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18:54 john_minetest D-d-d-drop the bass.
18:54 john_minetest When I drop the bass it breaks. Fortunately I have an insurance.
18:58 VanessaE when I drop the bass, people look at me funny....because of my choice in music :P
19:00 john_minetest VanessaE is skrillex undercover :b
19:00 sethj http://i.imgur.com/2bsA2sO.jpg what I will do for mese... and it's not even rare lol.
19:01 VanessaE hardly.
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19:02 VanessaE john_minetest: gimme a sec to find an example
19:04 * Jordach found 1/3 dubstep gun songs
19:04 Mati^1 hi all
19:04 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb4bMOe_7Xg
19:05 Mati^1 I have a problem with Microsoft ACPI-konformes System help me !? :D pleace
19:05 Jordach Mati^1, sounds like a acpi driver issue to me
19:06 Mati^1 yes but i have driver oryginal mainboard and sound all ok and steel the same problem
19:06 Mati^1 an grafik to
19:06 VanessaE john_minetest:  http://www.last.fm/music/T​omas+Danko/_/Comic+Bakery
19:06 VanessaE turn the bass up and hit "preview"
19:07 Mati^1 wow vanessa nice
19:08 VanessaE that's a remix done by Thomas Danko from a tune originally written for the Commodore 64 by Martin Galway
19:08 Mati^1 Daft Punk-Random Access Memories\12. Doin' It Right (feat. Panda Bear).mp3
19:08 VanessaE imagine this in a car with 600W of bass :D
19:08 Mati^1 i know this sound ;D
19:09 * VanessaE has a pair of 12's attached to a Pioneer 600W amp and Kenwood head unit
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19:11 john_minetest VanessaE: My headphones are quite good. Nice sound.
19:11 Calinou my 20€ headphones are very good, better than a 100€ one praised by reviews
19:12 john_minetest http://www.thomann.de/de/akg_k141_mkii.htm
19:12 Calinou that sounds like a weapon name lol
19:12 VanessaE john_minetest: if you want the whole thing, http://c64audio.com/productInfo.php?cat=C64CD2  (or torrent it if you have to)
19:12 john_minetest Flat frequency. So the sound is played as it was recorded.
19:12 VanessaE john_minetest: you use studio cans?
19:12 john_minetest VanessaE: Or youtube downloader :b
19:13 VanessaE john_minetest: heh, good luck finding it via youtube, I tried already :P
19:13 john_minetest Although crappy quality
19:13 john_minetest Is it that one? : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMIFsNp9iH4
19:13 VanessaE john_minetest: well, yes actually.  How the hell did you find it?
19:14 VanessaE your Google-fu is better than mine :)
19:14 PilzAdam I have exactly 200 posts less than Jordach
19:15 * PilzAdam creates a "PilzAdam counts to 200" topic ;-)
19:16 VanessaE hah
19:16 PilzAdam sfan5, http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?ti​tle=Changelog&amp;curid=366&amp;diff​=1506&amp;oldid=1498&amp;rcid=1626
19:16 PilzAdam wasnt color support in formspecs added after 0.4.7?
19:16 john_minetest VanessaE: Quite good bass and stuff: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm3G_fq4hvM
19:17 VanessaE !title
19:17 MinetestBot VanessaE: DjCode-Journey to the moon-[Journey EP] - YouTube
19:17 Jordach PilzAdam, don't make me use the code to sfan5's sfan5-bot
19:17 * VanessaE listens.
19:17 VanessaE ooooo
19:18 VanessaE interesting.
19:18 Jordach VanessaE, i use studio cans
19:18 Jordach i've also bought stronger neodynium magnets for improved bass
19:19 sfan5 PilzAdam: no?
19:19 sfan5 wait
19:19 Calinou lol, audiophile discussion
19:20 PilzAdam sfan5, it was added with Lua menu
19:20 VanessaE Calinou: a music lover listens to the music.  an audiophile listens to the noise :P
19:20 PilzAdam 967121a34bbc60e6b46c7ec470b151f668ef1fef
19:21 PilzAdam sfan5, I guess color support belongs in a list of all the new formspec stuff that was added with Lua menu
19:21 PilzAdam feel free to write that list
19:21 Calinou an audiophile listens to the sound of his coins dropping on the floor, alternatively
19:21 VanessaE heh
19:22 john_minetest My headphone is good for monitoring so I have got a flat frequency line and authentic sound.
19:23 VanessaE I just have a pair of low-end Altec Lansing speakers on the PC, no need to spend gobs of money on that
19:23 Peacock sennheiser
19:24 john_minetest With good headphones that one has a few great bass parts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHjpOzsQ9YI
19:24 john_minetest AKG. Hand-made in austria (not australia).
19:24 Peacock wasn't austria conquered by australia?
19:24 Peacock :P
19:25 john_minetest A lot of books list austrian scientists as "australian" because the authors misread it :b
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19:27 Peacock well thats right up there with thinking canada is part of the usa lol
19:27 VanessaE the USA annexed it.
19:27 VanessaE :P
19:27 VanessaE (or so the government here would like)
19:27 Peacock impossible, our gov't gets shit done :P
19:27 VanessaE heh
19:27 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=108711#p108711
19:28 VanessaE nice
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19:59 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=108735#p108735
19:59 PilzAdam WTF
19:59 PilzAdam why does this guy constantly post Minecraft mods and texture packs?
20:01 Jordach is this guy LM's retarded cousin or something
20:02 PilzAdam oh
20:02 PilzAdam he also double-posted: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=108737#p108737
20:02 PilzAdam someone should consider to ban him
20:07 Calinou never use "retarded" as an insult
20:07 sfan5 PilzAdam wrote:\nIt only takes ~30 seconds for me.\nIt depends on the slowness of your computer.
20:07 sfan5 ^ lol
20:07 sfan5 s/lol/plol/
20:08 * PilzAdam has a fast computer o/
20:11 * Jordach too
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20:12 iqualfragile PilzAdam: Sokomine should consider to react to my irc messages ;(
20:12 VanessaE PilzAdam: warned by PM.
20:13 Calinou iqualfragile: she is probably away
20:13 VanessaE (and instructed not to continue)
20:13 Calinou * [Sokomine] inactif  05:26:44
20:13 Calinou did not PM or say anything on a channel since 5:26 hours
20:13 Calinou (notices don't count)
20:13 Peacock you want a retarded post? check this one out in screenshots lol: https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=108746#p108746
20:13 iqualfragile i was about to say *inactive, then i remembered you are french
20:14 iqualfragile but ok, thanks
20:14 iqualfragile !seen jeija
20:14 MinetestBot iqualfragile: Sorry, I haven't seen jeija around.
20:16 VanessaE bah, ninja'd by sfan5 by 30 seconds.
20:19 Jordach VanessaE, next time i'm on IRC, and at my girlfriends: mario kart wii?
20:19 VanessaE heh, you'll kick my ass :P
20:20 * sfan5 has Mario Kart wii too
20:20 Calinou super tux kart > mario kart
20:20 VanessaE besides, my WiFi is not set up properly (too lazy), so the Wii can't go online.
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20:20 Peacock you need a new wifi unicorn
20:20 sfan5 Calinou: ack
20:20 Peacock lol
20:21 Peacock tux cart: graphics fucked up on *all* my rigs lol
20:21 Calinou tux cart is insanely old
20:21 Jordach smash bros. brawl anyone?
20:21 Jordach (i did PWN NekoGloop at it)
20:21 pitriss Hi, please I want to ask.. Is possible to disable fog from config? I used enable_fog = false but it doesn't work for me.. Should I try latest client or it is broken?
20:21 NekoGloop (I suck at brawl)
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20:23 kaeza pitriss, I think F3 does it
20:24 pitriss kaeza: yep that works.. but.. i wnated to switch that off by default..
20:24 Jordach VanessaE, TORCS
20:24 VanessaE please, I suck even worse at that than at mario kart.
20:24 VanessaE (I used to be good at Gran Turismo 1 back on the PSX, though)
20:28 NekoGloop (I still suck at brawl)
20:29 NekoGloop I don't even remember playing against you, but I know I suck at brawl
20:30 Calinou how about Stunt Rally :-d
20:31 Jordach NekoGloop, i beat you with Captain Falcon, 'nuff said
20:32 NekoGloop Captain Falcon isn't that bad, unless there's something I don't know
20:32 * Jordach has beaten mortal kombat on the highest difficulty
20:36 Jordach wtf
20:36 Jordach youtube stopped audio skipping in chrome
20:38 NekoGloop ?
20:38 Jordach youtube normally cracks and pops
20:38 Jordach it's gone, which shouldn't have happened
20:38 NekoGloop ... ?
20:39 NekoGloop I've... not ever had a problem?
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20:39 Jordach oh, there it is
20:39 NekoGloop What are you even talking about?
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20:40 Jordach NekoGloop, youtube in the browser doesn't work correctly for me, even with HTML5 enabled
20:41 NekoGloop you're insane
20:42 khonkhortisan enable realtime audio if it can handle it
20:42 sfan5 Jordach: i have a bot over in ##mt-irc-mod that executes lua code from IRC
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20:42 Peacock html5 youtube is pretty sucky yeah
20:43 Jordach even flash player garbles
20:43 Peacock at least it played the right video
20:43 Jordach this is like listening to a scratched CD
20:43 Peacock half the time i load a new page, it replays the last video, that's when it loads
20:43 Peacock there also used to be this mode/size between small and fullscreen that miss
20:43 Peacock *i miss
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20:44 TheUniversalBuil Hello
20:44 TheUniversalBuil ?
20:44 john_minetest Hello TheUniversalBuil
20:45 khonkhortisan what is a buil?
20:45 TheUniversalBuil What are the differences between normal mesecon and insulated mesecon/?
20:45 TheUniversalBuil builder
20:45 VanessaE an insulated one won't connect to other mesecons wires.
20:45 khonkhortisan you can have multiple lines of wires right next to each other
20:45 TheUniversalBuil cant fit whole gamer tag
20:46 VanessaE you can run multiple parallel lines
20:46 khonkhortisan uninsulated autoconnect
20:46 sfan5 TheUniversalBuil: the insulated mesecons doesn't connect to other if not directly placed in line with other insulated wires
20:46 VanessaE you can build much more compact circuits with them
20:46 khonkhortisan any turns or intersections must be placed manually
20:46 Peacock couldnt you just have one set of wires and toggle autoconnect?
20:47 TheUniversalBuil so normal mesecons will have a circuit if placed || adjacent
20:47 sfan5 yes
20:47 TheUniversalBuil but insulated mesecone wont if placed adjacent || right?
20:47 khonkhortisan possibly, but where would you store autoconnect? per-node, or per-player?
20:47 Peacock an array and a chat command would be simplest
20:47 TheUniversalBuil Per node?
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20:48 Peacock if autoconnect[playername] then autoconnect(pos) something like that
20:48 TheUniversalBuil Thanks for the help guys :D
20:48 khonkhortisan that would use insulated wires, to keep them from continually autoconnecting
20:49 Peacock does an abm run on the wires to autoconnect?
20:49 TheUniversalBuil ok
20:49 khonkhortisan it's an on-place
20:49 sfan5 good night everyone
20:49 Peacock yeah so a simple table should do it
20:49 khonkhortisan that searches immediate neighbors
20:49 VanessaE well rather than one set of wires, keep the two sets and use shift while you place an insulated to decide if they autoconnect
20:50 Peacock defeats the purpose of reducing the number of redundant nodes :p
20:50 khonkhortisan But shift is already used to build in the air from a lµaController
20:50 VanessaE oh.
20:50 khonkhortisan we don't have enough nodes yet, I can't have a bunch of wires, then turn them vertical all at the same time, then angle them horizontal again.
20:51 khonkhortisan I have to have every other one turn early
20:51 khonkhortisan But I build insulated
20:51 VanessaE is it possible to detect 'cave air'?
20:52 Peacock lol well im trying to cut down on the # of nodes on my game (from over 1K to 700 now) - old computers and performance and all
20:52 khonkhortisan what do you mean?
20:52 VanessaE khonkhortisan: just what I mean - is it possible to detect air that's only present in a cave?
20:52 khonkhortisan actually, don't wires use more nodes than insulated?
20:53 VanessaE Peacock: only 1k?  pfft.  I think my game has somewhere north of 5k
20:53 khonkhortisan if you can tie to the world generation
20:53 khonkhortisan She uses color nodes
20:53 Peacock im surprised old computers can even log on :P over 1K and the p4 has trouble doing all the inventory images
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20:55 Peacock though with upside-down placement i was able to remove over 300 nodes (same nodebox done in different directions)
20:55 TheUniversalBuil differences between lever, switches, buttons on the effect of mesecons?
20:55 TheUniversalBuil *what are
20:56 sfan5 you can toggle level and switches on/off
20:56 sfan5 the button just stays on for 1.5 secs when pressed
20:56 TheUniversalBuil oh
20:57 TheUniversalBuil so the machine stays on for 1 second if a button is used to turn it on?
20:57 TheUniversalBuil wait nvm
20:57 TheUniversalBuil i get it
20:57 TheUniversalBuil thanks
20:59 jojoa1997 is replacements in recipe (item in, item out)?
21:01 TheUniversalBuil if a node breaker break breaks a node where does the node go?
21:06 TheUniversalBuil nvm
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21:21 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:24 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:25 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:25 khonkhortisan no one is here
21:25 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:26 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:27 john_minetest There are a lot of people there.
21:27 Jordach Prestotron562, that's because NOT everyone lives in the US
21:27 kaeza can someone explain? https://forum.minetest.net/vie​wtopic.php?pid=108767#p108767
21:27 john_minetest I just watched fail videos and it is late - 23:27 (11:24 pm) here.
21:27 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:27 Jordach and they have lobs
21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:28 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:28 khonkhortisan s/threw/through
21:28 Jordach kaeza, there's several posts in trash with the identical content
21:28 Jordach ^ VanessaE
21:29 khonkhortisan shema is part of the hebrew bible?
21:29 khonkhortisan I think "you got linux so you might want minecraft" is the main point
21:29 Jordach moved it to trash
21:30 john_minetest Lol, why would someone with an open-source OS want proprietary stuff?
21:30 kaeza I read that as "Cracked Minecraft" or smth
21:30 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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21:30 Jordach kaeza, the sae
21:30 Jordach same
21:30 john_minetest I play daily.
21:30 khonkhortisan I only play daily if I am working on a large project
21:30 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:30 john_minetest for ~1 hour, building up Zegaton II or chilling on some VanessaE server.
21:31 khonkhortisan Where am I in that percentage if I don't have minecraft?
21:31 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:31 khonkhortisan I neither use it or can quit it
21:31 khonkhortisan *nor
21:31 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:31 john_minetest I don't play minecraft. It is an rpg now.
21:31 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:32 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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21:32 Jordach Prestotron562, from an average downloads, 100,000 for 0.3.1, 40,000 for all current 0.4.x series
21:33 Jordach those are totals; not to be confused with average
21:33 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:33 khonkhortisan Your use of minetest, whether on the internet or locally, means you allow us to track you as one of the number of people playing currently.
21:33 Jordach daily average, that depends
21:34 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:35 Jordach people might have jobs, chores, holiday events, and other influences
21:35 Jordach a simple way to do this would be to ping a server with the version you use to get a telemetric of users currently playing minetest
21:36 Jordach and on client close, the client pings again to signal that the client is dead
21:36 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:36 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:36 Jordach the ping should only contain the version number and operating system, which can be turned off and on again
21:37 john_minetest All servers should be in the server list. Server list should be more sortable.
21:37 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:37 john_minetest And people on servers should be counted and stats should be made
21:38 john_minetest 10 out of 10 there is somebody on some server I think.
21:38 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:38 john_minetest http://servers.minetest.net/
21:39 TheUniversalBuil whats the differernce between using copper cables and mesecons?
21:39 john_minetest copper cables are from technic mod.
21:40 john_minetest They are used to transfer power.
21:40 john_minetest Mesecons are used for electronic circuits.
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21:40 john_minetest I think they are compatible somehow but don't ask me how.
21:40 TheUniversalBuil well whats the difference with using them and mesecons
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21:41 john_minetest Technic is physically correct behaviour. You got a source, power lines and some power user.
21:42 john_minetest Mesecons are just logical circuits that can make power with a NOT gate, they don't need a power source to run.
21:42 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:42 john_minetest With technic you can't build a calculator. You could build a nuclear plant.
21:43 john_minetest With mesecons you can build a calculator. But no nuclear plant.
21:44 VanessaE khonkhortisan: sh'ma or shema, "listen".
21:44 VanessaE (alternatively, "hark", "hear", etc.)
21:45 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:45 TheUniversalBuil OHHH
21:45 TheUniversalBuil Thanks guys
21:45 khonkhortisan My calculator doesn't work because I used digilines for the digits.
21:46 john_minetest Who designed the list interface at http://servers.minetest.net/ ? Would it be possible to seperate the options a bit more and make that list sortable?
21:46 VanessaE as for the rest of his mixed-up post, I dunno wtf he's talkign about
21:46 TheUniversalBuil but for mesecons you said it doesnt need a power source to run
21:46 TheUniversalBuil twhat do you mean by that?
21:47 VanessaE mesecons are self-powered.
21:47 khonkhortisan A wire can either be on or off.
21:47 VanessaE a switch is, itself, a power source
21:47 khonkhortisan Off wire NAND off wire = on wire
21:47 VanessaE imagine that each switch, wall lever, button, gate, controller, etc has a small battery in it.
21:47 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:47 VanessaE when a switch, gate, etc. turns on, it routes that battery's infinite supply of power to the wire
21:47 VanessaE he doesn't come online here
21:47 khonkhortisan off wire + NOT gate = on wire, + NOT gate = off wire
21:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:48 VanessaE but you can find him elsewhere often around 5 or 6am EST.
21:48 khonkhortisan wire + NOT gate + same wire = alternator
21:48 TheUniversalBuil oh
21:48 VanessaE he doesn't like receiving email at all.
21:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:48 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:48 VanessaE *am*
21:48 VanessaE and I guess you have to leave a message on the forum or something
21:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:49 VanessaE it's complicated.
21:49 VanessaE better you should ask him when you get his ear.
21:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:49 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:49 VanessaE #minetest-dev but don't chit-chat on that channel
21:49 VanessaE it's just the way he is :-/
21:50 TheUniversalBuil so you dont need an energy source for mesecon. you only need a switch and mesecon to power a machine, right?
21:50 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:51 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:52 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:52 PilzAdam webchat is muted in -deb
21:52 PilzAdam *dev
21:53 PilzAdam btw, I think all your e-mails go into his spam folder
21:53 Jordach Prestotron562, just leave him alone
21:53 Jordach that's the *BEST* thing you can do
21:54 Prestotron562 [deleted]
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21:56 VanessaE oh yeah, forgot about the mute
21:56 VanessaE it's just as well
21:56 VanessaE you don't want to talk to c55 anyway
21:57 VanessaE anything you could direct at him really can be directed at most of the other devs too since it's a team project
21:57 khonkhortisan TheUniversalBuil, You only need a switch (and the optional mesecon in between) to turn the machine on. It doesn't power it.
21:57 Prestotron562 [deleted]
21:57 khonkhortisan If it's a technic machine, it may also need power.
21:58 khonkhortisan I like how mese darkens instead of brightens now, it makes it seem more like an unnatural wire
21:59 john_minetest Server list is strange. Gonna hack one together myself.
22:00 john_minetest http://minetest.net/servers is wrong. It says: "server_address = 12.34.567.890"
22:00 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:00 Prestotron562 [deleted]
22:01 proller need to remove server_address = - its not for all
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22:03 john_minetest My network mask is 1000.1000.1000.1000
22:03 john_minetest So my IP can be 12.34.567.890
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22:12 khonkhortisan doesn't it only go up to 255?
22:13 john_minetest it can have ovar nine thousand
22:13 john_minetest ip can only have 255
22:14 john_minetest But minetest.net/servers mentions the IP 12.34.567.890
22:14 john_minetest Interesting: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/From-P​owerUp-To-Bash-Prompt-HOWTO.html
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22:30 john_minetest ...
22:32 PilzAdam ...
22:34 kahrl ···
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22:36 john_minetest ...
22:38 john_minetest Boring... Let's start a discussion about distros.
22:38 john_minetest Archlinux is best.
22:39 john_minetest Oh, come on...
22:39 PilzAdam Kubuntu FTW
22:40 john_minetest Archlinux is much better.
22:41 john_minetest Okay, that discussion is boring, too...
22:41 kaeza no, Puppy :3
22:41 john_minetest Puppy is ugly.
22:41 john_minetest :b
22:41 kaeza :<
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22:42 kaeza I tried TinyCore today... the thing looks good so far
22:43 kaeza only use it to host a webserver though :P
22:43 john_minetest TinyCore is nice.
22:43 PilzAdam john_minetest, you are doing it wrong
22:43 PilzAdam the point is to not agree with others
22:43 jojoa1997 hi
22:43 john_minetest Oh, right...
22:43 kaeza jojoa1997, no u
22:44 kaeza wat
22:44 john_minetest TinyCore is so bad. It doesn't save changes and the UI is stolen from Mac OS.
22:44 jojoa1997 hay how come my icon for github changed
22:44 john_minetest reinstalling stuff every time is so annoying and takes ages.
22:44 kaeza john_minetest, in Puppy you are always root, beat that
22:44 john_minetest WHAT?!?
22:45 john_minetest Being always root sucks. I don't like damaging my system.
22:45 john_minetest And I can do "sudo su" or login as root.
22:45 PilzAdam in Windows you are always root, too
22:45 john_minetest PilzAdam: Not always.
22:45 john_minetest You can be non-admin but then you can't execute programs xD
22:45 Tiktalik PilzAdam: Not really, in Windows 7 you have to give administrator permission specifically to mess with some things
22:45 PilzAdam even if you are not root, viruses can still get root
22:46 Tiktalik but yeah
22:46 Tiktalik anything that could yoink the mouse control from you
22:46 kaeza <WindowsUser> wat is root
22:46 john_minetest Root is the stuff you make beer from.
22:47 PilzAdam Windows admin thing just restricts users, not the malware
22:47 john_minetest yeah. I mean, who is not admin on a windows pc?
22:47 john_minetest I want to execute my games.
22:47 kaeza http://linuxgazette.net/173/misc/​grebler/your-mouse-has-moved.png
22:48 kaeza ironically, I originally saw that image for the first time bundled with a MS-DOS web browser :<
22:49 john_minetest lol
22:50 PilzAdam is anyone interested in testing the stone monster in Pilztest?
22:50 john_minetest When you click "cancel" it asks you to restart to make the click take effect.
22:53 kaeza http://www.glennmcc.org/arachne/
22:55 * VanessaE pokes bas080
23:04 john_minetest lol, it is 1:04
23:10 kahrl PilzAdam, now that I found some food I will
23:11 PilzAdam how long have you searched?
23:12 Peacock mothereffing hipsters - they used to grow mushrooms here, now theyre growing on their own on the melamine by the fridge :/
23:13 VanessaE oh my
23:13 Peacock little brown ones
23:13 VanessaE perhaps you should turn on the de-humidifier
23:13 Peacock they look like the kind you get at the grocery store
23:13 kahrl PilzAdam: I'm at -276/1687
23:14 kahrl took several in game days, walking mostly straight north through ocean and forests
23:14 PilzAdam sounds like fun when you get slower and slower due to hunger
23:14 kahrl yeah :P
23:15 kahrl I did it immediately after I respawned though so I didn't slow down
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23:16 PilzAdam I never had to walk that far to find pumpkins
23:17 kahrl at least they grow fast so now I have infinite
23:18 PilzAdam are you on the mobs branch yet?
23:18 kahrl yup
23:19 john_cephalopoda gtg, bye
23:19 john_cephalopoda aaand i timed out...
23:22 Tiktalik Peacock: perhaps you should eat them,
23:22 Tiktalik nothing could possibly go wrong
23:23 Peacock thinking of simply ripping out that plank of melamine
23:23 Tiktalik /nick I_GIVE_BAD_ADVICE
23:23 Peacock all it does is hide the back of the fridge
23:23 Peacock which honestly, is bad for ventilation
23:23 Tiktalik bleach it
23:24 Peacock did that
23:24 Tiktalik how long
23:24 Peacock then put a mountain of salt in the area
23:24 Peacock going to the landlords' tomorrow, either they take the plank out or i will lol
23:25 Tiktalik ah, good
23:25 Peacock when i was applying bleach, the plank itself was crumbling in my sponge
23:25 Peacock im pretty sure the landlord will be partial to removing the plank before the whole cabinets have to be re-done lol
23:27 Peacock otherwise like i said, im pretty good with *accidental* damage hehe
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23:47 TheUniversalBuil How do i power my extractor?
23:49 TheUniversalBuil ?
23:53 VanessaE andersje: awake?
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