Time Nick Message 00:59 PilzAdam bye 02:50 andersje VanessaE: new version of stained_glass in place. you can now turn off full/med/noglow trap/regular glass via the settings.txt file in stained_glass 02:51 VanessaE cool 02:51 VanessaE *git pull* 02:52 * Exio4 git reverts VanessaE 02:52 VanessaE lol 02:52 Exio4 :D 02:53 Exio4 git pulls/pushes/reverts/commits/adds/ 03:03 andersje =) 03:03 andersje you want me to issue a pull request to you vanessa? 03:06 VanessaE no need 03:06 andersje cool =) 03:06 VanessaE I leave the repo in your capable hands :) 03:06 VanessaE instead, expect pulls from me on occasion :) 03:07 andersje rock on. 03:07 andersje we use github a lot at work, so those'll be easy for me to spot and handle asap. 03:08 andersje my next project is the auto-detect of unifieddyes and moreblocks. 03:08 andersje now that there is noglow stained glass, the mod could still, in theory, be functional if it was the only mod installed... 03:10 VanessaE right 03:10 VanessaE plus one could perhaps find other sources of glowing glass 03:10 VanessaE (or stained_glass could define its own copy of {super_}glow_glass if moreblocks ain't installed 03:11 andersje right! 03:11 andersje that's a grand idea. 03:11 * andersje thinks. 03:35 jojoa1997 Hello 03:41 andersje hola 06:24 [0gb_us] I just tried installing Minetest from the .deb, but I'm getting odd results. Setting "enable_fog" in the conf to false in the or 0 has no effect and the nodes keep turning invisible on me. Do you know anything I can try for either of these issues? 06:24 [0gb_us] *"false or 0", not "false in the or 0". 06:45 [0gb_us] Okay ... I used to be able to set my max view range to 5 in order to gain a few extra FPS, but it seems that not doing that fixes the invisible node issue. I stall haven't solved the fog issue though. 07:12 Smelly Hello lol 07:12 [0gb_us] Hello! 07:12 Smelly Is their a way to clear objects offline 07:12 Smelly Well off the server rather 07:13 nore remove all objects on the server? 07:13 [0gb_us] /clearobjects 07:13 Smelly No, clear 07:13 Smelly While off the server I mean 07:13 [0gb_us] Not without extra plugins. 07:13 Smelly Ah 07:13 Smelly I may have made a boo boo 07:13 Smelly lol 07:13 [0gb_us] What happened? 07:14 nore I don't think so, so server needs at least to be online, but mods can do it too 07:14 Smelly Oh you know 07:14 Smelly just useing world edit 07:14 Smelly And I may have set default:apple 07:14 Smelly for 20,000 nodes 07:14 Smelly Yea..... 07:14 kaeza lol 07:14 nore in this case, just exit and restart 07:15 [0gb_us] Hmm. Did the apples get updated to fall? 07:15 Smelly Oh they fell 07:15 nore because the falled apples will be deleted 07:15 Smelly Ah 07:15 nore if there are enough of them 07:15 Smelly Oh I think we ave enough 07:15 Smelly have* 07:15 Smelly I can feed many 07:15 nore you need 49 per block (16*16*16 nodes) 07:16 Smelly All I know, is I have 20,000 apples to clean 07:16 Smelly lol 07:17 Smelly What if 07:17 Smelly I reset myself 07:17 Smelly but not the server 07:17 Smelly Will they clear? 07:18 Smelly all my objects would 07:18 Smelly like a rollback 07:18 nore if you exit, it will be enough 07:18 nore if there are no other people 07:19 nore in the area 07:19 Smelly Ah 07:19 Smelly Okay 07:19 Smelly I just need the other person to leave 07:20 Smelly Hopefully they do 07:20 nore If they are not near this area, it won't be a problem 07:20 Smelly They where in the middle of it 07:20 Smelly Like exact middle 07:20 Smelly lol 07:20 Smelly Yea... 07:20 Smelly <_< 07:20 Smelly >_> 07:21 Smelly I have to say 07:21 Smelly 20,000 apples 07:21 Smelly do look amazing 07:22 [0gb_us] I don't think Trisquel is going to work out for me. Minetest and sleep mode are both wonky. Too bad for me, I guess. I'll just have to not use it. 07:34 Smelly Okay apples are gone 07:34 Smelly Thank you all 07:42 VanessaE well that was a waste of time, as usual. 07:42 * VanessaE can't sleep 07:46 kaeza probably useless, but sharing anyway: http://pastebin.com/mzGb3xdR 07:46 VanessaE could be useful. 07:47 VanessaE maybe direct such errors to a dedicated log 07:48 kaeza I use it in Geany so it allows me to click and go directly to the error 07:48 kaeza could be useful for that too 07:49 VanessaE I usually just less -> hit "end" -> ?----- and then scan up a few lines 07:49 VanessaE looks for the separator between successive runs. 07:50 * VanessaE pokes bas080 with a bug report 11:11 test_ Can any say me on which level which ore generate, please. 11:13 kaeza https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/mapgen.lua#L31 11:14 test_ thanks 11:14 kaeza np 11:19 Rhy5 Hello all! 11:20 Rhy5 Is anyone alive? 11:20 * Rhy5 wants to eat cake 11:20 Rhy5 Hmf. Oh well. 11:21 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:21 Rhy5 Hello Adam! 11:21 Rhy5 Nice to see someone actually come on. 11:22 Rhy5 So, how are you? 11:23 DanDuncombe Does is_ground_content = true stop a node from being diggable by gravel? 11:24 kaeza diggable by gravel? O_o 11:25 DanDuncombe Yes 11:25 DanDuncombe When gravelfalls on it, it gets dropped as an item 11:25 DanDuncombe Like torches 11:25 kaeza that's not how it works 11:26 DanDuncombe But how do I stop a node being gravel-diggble? 11:26 kaeza torches are "attached nodes", so when the node they are attached to is dyg, it falls 11:26 kaeza dug* 11:26 DanDuncombe Ok. 11:27 DanDuncombe When I place a tbm, it is fine. 11:27 kaeza and things like grass are "dug" because they are buildable_to 11:27 LazyJ Same thing happens to locked_signs on walls. Gravel and sand will knock them off and drop them as items. 11:27 DanDuncombe Then, gravel falls on it, it gets dropped as an item 11:27 DanDuncombe Like torches and I think rails too 11:27 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, all non-walkable or buildable_to nodes are dropped when gravel falls on them 11:27 DanDuncombe But it is walkable and not buildable_to 11:28 PilzAdam is_ground_content has not effect yet, it might be used for mapgen later on 11:28 DanDuncombe SO how do I stop it being dropped as an item? 11:29 DanDuncombe Here is the node code: http://pastebin.com/RsN4rSmL 11:30 DanDuncombe You lose all the items inside it when the gravel digs it 11:33 PilzAdam I cant reproduce this 11:34 PilzAdam what Minetest version do you have? 11:35 DanDuncombe It happends whenever it mines through gravel with commit: minetest-0.4.7-c893085-win32 11:35 LazyJ Server-side question - If the server has the fancy trees, smooth lighting, and 3D clouds turned *off* and the opaque water turned *on*, will that affect the clients or is all of that handled on the client-side? 11:35 DanDuncombe All client side I think 11:35 PilzAdam LazyJ, it doesnt effect clients 11:36 LazyJ Ah, good. Thanks. :) 11:52 Zeg9 Where could I upload a 14MB image? 11:52 Calinou dropbox 11:56 LazyJ If I increase this setting, what will be perceived by the players? 11:56 LazyJ full_block_send_enable_min_time_from_building = 2.0 11:59 Calinou # To reduce lag, block transfers are slowed down when a player is building something. 11:59 Calinou # This determines how long they are slowed down after placing or removing a node. 11:59 Calinou a block is 16×16×16 nodes by the way 12:05 LazyJ So if I increase the setting from 2 to, say, 10, what happens when a player digs or places a node? Do they see the node being dug, then popping back into place just like it does when the lag is bad? 12:07 LazyJ Seems confusing... the bit about slowing down block transfers.. that sounds like what is happening during lag; nodes are slowed down so much that there is a mismatch between the server and the client. 12:10 LazyJ Another problem that I'm trying to figure out is why does it take so long to render the screen? 12:11 LazyJ The portion of the map is already generated and built in, I'm flying through looking for griefing, my fps is 60, but I see large gaps of sky in the ground; as if using x-ray vision. 12:13 LazyJ Players are already in the area, they can see what is there, while I'm waiting for my screen to render. 12:13 LazyJ So it has something to do with the connection. What part of it can I tweak with conf setting adjustments? 12:28 LazyJ .. 12:28 LazyJ ... 12:28 LazyJ I think I scared them off. :)- 13:12 DanDuncombe How do I add a background image to a formspec? 13:22 diemartin DanDuncombe, -> lua-api.txt 13:22 DanDuncombe Ok 13:37 mnb hello all, how do i make a mesecon command block? 13:37 nore you can't 13:38 mnb how does an admin make one? 13:40 mnb i'm setting up a 13:41 nore you need to use /give or creative inventory 13:42 mnb so it's /give what? 13:42 mnb i'm running my own server there is no creative mode i don't think 13:43 mnb /give mesecon command block? 13:43 nore /give mesecons:command_block I think 13:44 nore if you play singleplayer, just tick "creative mode" 14:33 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Screenshot-2013-09-01-11-28-56.jpg 14:40 nore Zeg9: what's the levelDB pull request? 14:40 Zeg9 About a new database backend 14:41 Zeg9 OldCoder wants it to be merged/rebased before upgrading his servers 14:42 nore ok 14:54 bas080 !seen seg9 14:54 MinetestBot bas080: Sorry, I haven't seen seg9 around. 14:54 bas080 !seen zeg9 14:54 MinetestBot bas080: zeg9 was last seen at 2013-09-01 14:38:52 UTC on #minetest 14:55 jin_xi capital Z 14:57 jin_xi hmmmm: have you got time for a quick question? 14:59 hmmmm well you assumed i had time for that one 15:01 jin_xi indeed 15:01 jin_xi im looking for a sane way to use decorations to find places to spawn turtles 15:01 hmmmm agh 15:02 hmmmm that's not possible yet. i intended to add that functionality by generating the positions and pushing them to a table and do a callback 15:02 jin_xi cool, because atm i do this: https://github.com/obneq/minetest_j/blob/master/mods/deco/init.lua#L11 15:05 sapier jin_xi I suggest using mobf so all your spawning issues will be fixed ;-) and if not they'll be fixed with next mobf version ;-) 15:06 NekoGloop turtles meaning decorative structures 15:06 jin_xi ^ 15:06 sapier we're talking about that tiny reptiles hiding their head and feet? 15:06 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CURcGijKwqc 15:06 sapier ok some are not that tiny 15:06 jin_xi no, turtle graphics generated structures 15:07 sapier oops so something completely different :-) 15:08 jin_xi stuff like this: http://i.imgur.com/e1DWCqU.jpg 15:08 sapier ok that's tetris what is tutles connected to tetris? *g* 15:09 jin_xi its not, but turtle graphics were used to place the nodes in the form of tetris pieces... 15:09 NekoGloop jin_xi, that looks smexy 15:09 NekoGloop what are they made of, wool? 15:09 jin_xi yes, its all wool atm 15:09 sapier hope none puts fire next to em ;-) 15:09 NekoGloop .... FIIIIIIREEEEE! 15:09 sapier through it'd look interesting 15:10 jin_xi its funny because if you fail to specify a material when setting nodes via luavoxelmanipulator you get... fire! 15:10 jin_xi lots of fun 15:10 Jordach sapier, think turtle graphics and logo programming 15:11 jin_xi you can look at my repo and test it yourselves, its an entire game to ensure ppl make new worlds with it, and use mgv7 15:14 sapier still I wonder if there ever will be a in core spawning mechanism beeing as parametrizable as necessary to be usefull for mob spawning 15:15 kaeza sapier, why not port mobf to core? 15:16 kaeza it seems extensible enough 15:16 sapier I already thought of that but there are a lot of things that are very specific for a special spawner thus if you port it you either are limited to that spawners 15:16 sapier or need to add callbacks ... giving away all the speed benefit 15:17 sapier after fixing the get_surface bug I hope spawning isn't the bottleneck anymore ... still this needs to be prooven 15:18 sapier btw have I mentionet mobf 2.2 is released? ;-) 15:19 kaeza I was using the dev version anyway :P 15:19 sapier I'm waiting for the one killer bug always discovered half an hour after release ;-) 15:20 jin_xi hmmmm: i wont have much time for next two weeks, but i'll look into adding that callback to core after 15:26 hmmmm oh, you intended to do it? 15:26 hmmmm funny thing is, i won't have any time at all in two weeks 15:26 hmmmm i'm gonna have to do some minetest crap the next couple of days :) 15:27 jin_xi well, i can try! 15:29 jin_xi ok, gotta go, bye! 15:44 DanDuncombe Can someone help me do the variable floor thing with my tbm reloaded mod 15:44 DanDuncombe ? 15:48 DanDuncombe Can the6? 16:04 * Jordach was testing TNT the other day 16:04 Jordach i tried the usual methods to crash MC:360, nothing worked! 16:05 Jordach i even tested 50^3 16:13 bas080 VanessaE, you have a rat issue on your server https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/screenshot_3321521912.png. 16:14 nore bas080: link doesn't work 16:14 bas080 yeah, you should give it a sec to upload 16:15 * Jordach sees two rats on top of each other 16:15 Jordach fair 'nuiff 16:15 Jordach -i 16:15 babyface1031 i love their pruple ears 16:15 nore entity duplication? 16:16 bas080 nore, something like that 16:27 PilzAdam bbl 16:29 Jordach PilzAdam is gone, OP Party? 16:30 thexyz you can't have party with +c 16:30 Jordach heh 16:34 FreeFull bas080: Celeron's server once had a rat issue 16:35 FreeFull RIP Celeron's server ): 16:35 bas080 RIP rats :D 16:37 thexyz what's the issue? 16:38 Jordach [17:15:58] entity duplication? 16:39 thexyz can't read 16:39 * Jordach doesn't like the YouTube player in Chrome 16:39 Jordach snap crackle and pop 16:40 Jordach (but nice and glorious in VLC at 720p) 16:46 LazyJ Anyone have experience with slowing down block transfers in Minetest? 16:47 LazyJ From minetest.conf.example: 16:47 LazyJ # To reduce lag, block transfers are slowed down when a player is building something. 16:47 LazyJ # This determines how long they are slowed down after placing or removing a node. 16:47 LazyJ #full_block_send_enable_min_time_from_building = 2.0 16:49 thexyz Jordach: > VLC 16:50 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTwyaIo9ADk :3 17:10 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BfgAV94mM0 17:11 Miner_48er thexyz advice LazyJ^ ? 17:15 thexyz Miner_48er: I can't answer his/her question because I've never used such option 17:33 Jordach bas080, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108545#p108545 17:35 bas080 loading... 17:38 bas080 gravel checkers, sweet... 17:38 Jordach most blocks have 1-2 colours 17:38 bas080 I see the tulip 17:38 Jordach natural nodes (such as sand, stone, etc) are flat 17:39 Jordach it's half OCD and half default 18:06 Jordach thexyz, almost finished the mimic model 18:07 Prestotron562 [deleted] 18:07 thexyz Jordach: great, now write a mod 18:07 Prestotron562 [deleted] 18:08 Jordach Blender is OPEN SOURCE. 18:08 Jordach you don't need no serials, or some other shit with it 18:08 Prestotron562 [deleted] 18:08 Prestotron562 [deleted] 18:09 thexyz I think it was not free in the past 18:10 thexyz > They initially distributed the program as shareware until NaN went bankrupt in 2002 18:11 Jordach Prestotron562, http://blender.org 18:11 Prestotron562 [deleted] 18:24 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108557#p108557 18:24 Jordach thexyz, ^ 18:31 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=77116#p77116 18:31 NekoGloop :3 18:31 NekoGloop It's a good song 18:35 hoodedice Peacock 18:35 hoodedice (Not here) 18:36 hoodedice oooh http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reuben_sandwich 18:38 Jordach !op 18:39 hoodedice HEY ! 18:39 hoodedice Make it a shawarma 18:39 * Jordach won't be here tomorrow to change it 18:39 hoodedice Gimme op then 18:39 Jordach no 18:39 hoodedice -.- 18:40 thexyz you should add images 18:40 thexyz or do something creative 18:41 thexyz just changing two words every day is boring, isn't it? 18:41 hoodedice Indeed 18:41 Jordach thexyz, the problem is finding a joke on the end 18:41 hoodedice Hmm 18:41 hoodedice Have a half eaten sandwich 18:42 thexyz yeah, how about Jordach makes a sandwich, then takes a photo 18:42 Jordach thexyz, fun fact: i can't make sandwiches for shit 18:42 thexyz Jordach: that'd be even more fun then! 18:43 hoodedice haha 18:43 hoodedice sandwich with new shit everyday 18:43 thexyz "guess sandwich" 18:43 hoodedice XD 18:43 Jordach or even i just make a sandwich in blender: http://i.imgur.com/v5YGLzX.png 18:43 hoodedice Nah 18:44 thexyz rright http://www.purestorage.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/blender1.jpg 18:44 hoodedice Yup, better 18:44 Jordach thexyz, i have a girlfriend, "bitch, make me a sandwich" 18:45 hoodedice Jordach? 18:46 thexyz dating tips by Jordach 18:46 hoodedice Is this your girlfriend? 18:46 hoodedice http://mydoggys.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/female-yorkie1.jpg 18:46 hoodedice sudo make sandwich 18:46 hoodedice Enter Passwords 18:47 thexyz make: *** No rule to make target `sandwich'. Stop. 18:47 hoodedice Ow 18:49 * sfan5 is home again 18:49 hoodedice *Yawn* 18:50 hoodedice ARGH! 18:50 Jordach sfan5, wb 18:51 Jordach also: where've you been? 18:51 sfan5 cousin 18:51 Jordach ah 18:51 sfan5 I would have been home 1 hour earlier but the train.... 18:51 Jordach I LIKE TRAINS! 18:51 * sfan5 DOES TOO! 18:52 Jordach sfan5, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108557#p108557 18:53 thexyz Jordach: where is the source? 18:53 sfan5 mhm, nice 18:54 Jordach thexyz, for the mimic 18:54 * Jordach always types minic 18:54 thexyz why don't you release all the sources? 18:55 Jordach because nobody asks 18:55 Jordach i release on demand 18:55 Jordach casimir asked for the big ass grass block; he got his grass block 18:56 thexyz is it hard to post source without anyone asking? 18:57 Jordach for those five mins i spend uploading, i can work in blender for even better results 18:58 Jordach and not to mentions there is probably 1% of the minetest user base who uses blender 18:58 Jordach ~40 users take a few 18:59 thexyz well, okay 18:59 thexyz I just thought it was the reason you created your mimic instead of asking Gambit for his version 18:59 Jordach and probably about 12% who can only use basic functions of blender 18:59 Jordach thexyz, LIGHTWAVE. 19:00 Jordach (not to mention, if i want something done, i'll do it myself. reduces load on others, and you get your own schedule) 19:00 thexyz yay, yay 19:00 thexyz NIH 19:00 Jordach ^ wut 19:01 thexyz http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_invented_here 19:01 kaeza oh nice. why don't we also start using `luac' and distributing mods in binary form? after all, 80% (90%?) of the user base does not even know what programming is 19:02 kaeza (and disclosing source on demand, of course) 19:02 thexyz there is one mod using this approach 19:03 kaeza hm? 19:03 sfan5 Jordach: You expect WorldEdit to try all * 2 possiblities of the case of the characters? 19:04 sapier1 kaeza there's no benefit of compiled mods 19:04 kaeza ._. 19:04 kaeza sapier1, read above 19:05 sapier1 only for hiding source?? really? 19:05 sfan5 What if I told you that you can decompile lua code? 19:05 kaeza sapier1, sarcasm 19:06 thexyz sapier1: yes 19:06 kaeza It seems I failed at it ._. 19:06 thexyz there is one mod 19:06 jojoa1997 compiled mods means others cant edit it if they dont like how something is or they cant learn from it 19:06 Jordach sfan5, with luaJIT, yes 19:06 sapier1 I'm not sure but didn't compiled code result in luajit not working anymore? 19:07 sfan5 Jordach: wut, No program does that, why should WorldEdit do that? 19:07 thexyz sfan5: can you add more context? 19:08 thexyz jojoa1997: yes 19:08 thexyz sapier1: it's bytecode, I'm not sure if it should be called "compiled" 19:08 sfan5 thexyz: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108341#p108341 19:08 sapier1 java binarys are called compiled too ;-) 19:09 kaeza ^ 19:09 sfan5 sapier1: bytecode sometimes causes problems with LuaJIT 19:09 thexyz hm, right, they use different opcodes sets 19:10 sapier1 but yes it's not 100% same as native binarys yes ... the main problem for anyone writing compiled only mods is how to find a core dev to add improvements to lua api ;-) 19:10 thexyz Jordach: why do you think this is a bug? 19:10 sfan5 ^ /me has the same question 19:10 sapier1 i once tried "compiled" code with pathfinding algorithms ... they've been as bad as pure lua 19:10 Jordach err what 19:11 thexyz sapier1: because it's bytecode 19:11 thexyz why would it run better? 19:11 thexyz lua already does that, doesn't it? 19:11 sapier1 I thought so but yes I could have known it doesnt 19:12 sfan5 you use bytecode to hide bad coding style? 19:12 thexyz Jordach: ? 19:13 hoodedice ? 19:13 kaeza ¿ 19:13 sapier1 no I had same algorithm in c++ and lua and wanted to know performance difference between different styles 19:13 * Jordach is busy 19:13 thexyz sapier1: how did luajit do? 19:13 Exio4 4http://exio4.com.ar/mt/sapier/performance_comparison_pathfinding.pdf 19:13 Exio4 err 19:13 Exio4 http://exio4.com.ar/mt/sapier/performance_comparison_pathfinding.pdf 19:14 thexyz okay 19:14 hoodedice What is Core -0O? 19:14 hoodedice *-O0 19:14 Exio4 compiled without optimizations 19:14 thexyz not so long we were talking with sapier1 about luajit, C++ and performance, weren't we? 19:15 sfan5 thexyz: could we add a rule to the forum "No server hosting requests in the Servers subforum"? 19:15 thexyz sfan5: what should go there? 19:16 thexyz I believe that section should only contain servers 19:16 sfan5 ^ 19:16 sapier1 lujait was even faster than -O0 and as fast as -O2 19:16 thexyz now there are all kinds of topics 19:17 sfan5 idea: "Servers" and "Servers General" 19:17 hoodedice Hey 19:17 sapier1 but this is only true for computational tasks if you need to do a lot of map operations you should take care 19:17 hoodedice Do I need to be online on a server for someone to teleport me? 19:18 Jordach BOOM! http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/363/untitled.png 19:18 Jordach 2.0 Mimic 19:18 thexyz sapier1: I don't see this in that pdf 19:18 thexyz sapier1: I can't find -O2 in that pdf either 19:19 sapier1 http://www.file-upload.net/download-8033732/performance_comparison_pathfinding.pdf.html 19:20 thexyz that too, I only see -O3 and -O0 19:20 sapier1 yes I didn't do the full testset for -O2 19:20 thexyz don't see the point of comparing with -O0 though 19:21 sapier1 -O0 is debug ...despite some ppl think it's usefull to debug -O1 19:21 thexyz what's the point of comparing performance with debug version while most people will use release? 19:22 thexyz anyway, it's in core for a reason 19:23 sapier1 yes core is still faster using core and it's terribly slow in lua ;-) 19:23 thexyz someone has nothing to do 19:23 thexyz john_minetest: install http://www.templeos.org/ on that 19:27 thexyz john_minetest: why not use virtual machine? 19:27 thexyz did you consider LFS? 19:30 mnb_ nore, I tried /give mesecons:command_block and it says cannot give an unknown item 19:30 mnb_ any other ideas? 19:33 DanDuncombe Is VanessaE awake? 19:35 mnb_ how do u enable command block in mesecons? 19:37 DanDuncombe Guys, is VanessaE awake? 19:37 mnb_ danduncombe, not sure 19:37 khonkhortisan Should I use microcontrollers, luacontrollers, or gates? I'm attempting checkers with mesecons 19:37 DanDuncombe She would reply if she was 19:37 kaeza ... 19:37 DanDuncombe Use luacontrollers for comapctness 19:38 kaeza DanDuncombe, read the channel topic 19:38 DanDuncombe Channel topic? 19:38 mnb_ anyone here know how to enable command blocks? 19:38 mnb_ do i put something in minetest.conf? 19:39 kaeza mnb_, /giveme mesecons_commandblock:commandblock_off 19:39 kaeza source: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/blob/master/mesecons_commandblock/init.lua#L173 19:40 DanDuncombe VanessaE, when you have time, can you update tbm?? 19:40 mnb_ thank you 19:40 kaeza np 19:44 DanDuncombe Is 60 a good use number for a relatively good pick? 19:44 Jordach john_minetest, jesus fucking christ that's an old monitor 19:46 DanDuncombe Because uses number seems to be lower than the actual number of uses 19:49 Jordach thexyz, templeOS looks nice 19:49 Jordach very nice 19:51 octobot post empty weekend 19:52 t3o hi. is there a "how to write mods" tutorial somewhere? I didn't find one in the wiki 19:52 thexyz t3o: did you check http://dev.minetest.net/Main_Page 19:56 LazyJ I see in the /client/shaders sub-folders there are sets of identically named files. Are they functional yet or is it a feature being worked on? 19:59 t3o thexyz: thanks! 20:31 Jordach hey Peacock 20:31 Peacock greetings 20:35 Peacock heres an interesting question: how can i get the latest xfce on a debian-based distro using old repos? (without changing the repos and updating a bunch of crap im fine with) 20:36 sapier1 get xfce sources build your own debs 20:36 thexyz you need a different distro if you want to do stuff like this 20:36 Peacock so theres no specific repo just for xfce? :( 20:37 sapier1 maybe you could have a look at debian backports but I don't think there will be latest xfce 20:37 Peacock i just want the xfce version that tiles windows when you drag them to edges 20:38 thexyz Peacock: what's your distro? 20:38 Peacock crunchbang 20:38 thexyz dunno then, Debian supports pinning though https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences#Pinning 20:38 Peacock i check on the forums but its mostly "sudo apt-get install xfce4" 20:40 Exio4 use debian sid Peacock 20:41 Peacock checked that out too, could be conflicts between #!'s waldorf repo and changing debian wheezy to sid repo :/ 20:42 kaeza [17:41:25] *** lord-swaggerton joined the game 20:42 kaeza :| 20:43 Peacock looks legit 20:44 Jordach swag and yolo will die in time, just like the armies of MLP fans 20:45 Peacock heck i ban anyone with minecraft or minetest in the name lol 20:45 Peacock thinking of adding a basic arithmetic question before letting people get on XD 20:45 kaeza minetest too? O_o 20:45 Peacock oddly enough, people with 'minetest' in the name tends to grief too lol 20:45 kaeza Peacock, implement captcha with formspecs :P 20:46 thexyz > hey if i put minetest in name instead of minecraft they won't ban me 20:46 Peacock ^ probably what theyre thinking yeah 20:46 Peacock the best one was 'minetest-user%d%d%d' lol 20:47 Peacock the whole server now is basically whitelist except for 2000*2000 area north-east 20:50 thexyz Jordach: when will MLP fans die? 20:50 Jordach when the artist does 20:50 Jordach s/does/dies 20:50 Peacock MLP fans = formerly sailor moon fans 20:51 thexyz Jordach: I think it's drawn/animated by multiple people 20:51 Jordach thexyz, people eventually get bored 20:51 * Jordach thinks there is a specialised version of the pony models Taoki has 20:52 thexyz then they'll find more people 20:52 Jordach thexyz, you know how everyone gets infections? 20:52 Jordach once it's gone it's gone 20:53 Jordach MLP works like that, it infects, then continues until the host gets bored 20:53 thexyz lol, okay 20:53 thexyz I've never watched it anyway 20:55 Peacock in the 80s it was the carebears lol 20:56 thexyz great https://github.com/jloughry/BANCStar/blob/master/README.md 20:56 Jordach ^ that 20:57 thexyz Peacock: was this show watched by adults? 20:57 Peacock it probably did have it's overage fans but there wasn't much internet back then for people to admit to it lol 21:01 Jordach Teaser: http://i.imgur.com/qxX0iyK.png 21:25 Jordach omfg 21:25 * Jordach found a awesome replacement for yolo 21:25 Jordach tolo 21:25 kaeza ? 21:25 Jordach tits out legs open 21:25 Jordach :P 21:25 kaeza :| 21:29 Jordach who needs youtube rippers when VLC does that for me :D 21:29 thexyz > VLC 21:29 Jordach thexyz, the only bug i have with vlc is that video sometimes pixelates if it's high-res 21:29 Jordach but then again i don't often watch high-res videos 21:30 thexyz lol 21:30 thexyz where's my vlc pictures 21:30 thexyz http://i.imgur.com/BmF52.jpg 21:30 Jordach thexyz, .jpg, no wonder why large areas are msising 21:31 Jordach missing* 21:31 thexyz okay 21:32 Jordach A) VLC opens most 720p DVD rips fine 21:32 Jordach B) I don't have issues, because I'm not using Linux 21:32 thexyz https://www.google.ru/search?q=site:irc.minetest.ru&tbm=isch 21:32 Jordach bar that pixelation 21:32 thexyz > most 21:32 thexyz are you even serious 21:33 thexyz you're fine with player that fails to open some of 720p rips? 21:33 thexyz also, I was sure DVD is not 720p 21:33 Jordach fuck me 21:33 Jordach WOAH WOAH WOAH 21:33 Jordach how did my face get image #5 in google results 21:33 Jordach #6* 21:34 thexyz don't worry, it's #7 for me 21:34 thexyz so it's ok 21:34 thexyz people post their personal info 21:34 thexyz then get surprised of it being public 21:34 PilzAdam AFAIK there is no picture from me in the internet 21:34 Jordach PilzAdam, NSA 21:35 Jordach PilzAdam, it's just laughable 21:35 thexyz lol http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/295/sadbot.png 21:35 thexyz PilzAdam: how do you stop your friends from posting photos with you? 21:35 Jordach MinetestBot once took a day off, i figured where she went of 21:36 Jordach off* 21:36 Jordach PilzAdam, you're screwed if we have a minetest-con 21:36 hoodedice Peacock 21:36 PilzAdam thexyz, my friends dont take pictures of me 21:37 thexyz okay 21:37 PilzAdam maybe my previous school has some pictures of my class on its website, but there are 25+ people 21:38 Jordach thexyz, let's play the PilzAdam photo hunting game 21:38 thexyz Jordach: why would you do that? 21:39 Jordach because it wastes more time than that damn candy box 21:39 thexyz I'm against any kind of de-anonymization here 21:39 Jordach PilzAdam, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=108598#p108598 21:40 Jordach thexyz, i'm joking 21:40 Peacock i dont get why anyone would show pics of themselves to people they'll never meet irl lol 21:40 thexyz just in case someone thinks it's fine 21:40 PilzAdam Jordach, the first link he posted required JS 21:40 thexyz Jordach: wow so deep 21:40 Jordach Peacock, my father's best words: "At the end of the day, does ANYONE give a FUCK?" 21:41 hoodedice Peacock 21:41 hoodedice I need a platform or something in the middle of my nation 21:41 Jordach thexyz, lol 21:41 hoodedice (Can't build) 21:41 Jordach > Russian 21:41 Jordach > Cries 21:41 Jordach nope.avi 21:42 Peacock its almost kinda creepy lol 21:42 thexyz now I want this http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-04-16#i_3022204 21:43 Jordach notbad.pngf 21:43 Jordach -f 21:43 Jordach thexyz, just ask paramat the next time you see him 21:43 hoodedice Yo Peacock? 21:43 hoodedice At least grant me nation interact with Aquisomething 21:44 hoodedice till I make a nice little path to my place 21:44 Peacock the coords are in the op, you're nowhere near 21:45 hoodedice Zwiz the zwizzing negative schist 21:45 hoodedice zwiz everything ! 21:46 thexyz Jordach: be prepared to candybox2 btw 21:47 thexyz s/to/for/ 21:48 hoodedice Is the place underwater? 21:48 thexyz http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/pics/zeichnungen/minetest-dad.png good times 21:48 Peacock there's nothing there like the last place 21:49 Jordach wasn't elerlamann(is that close?) who made that 21:50 thexyz erlehmann 21:50 hoodedice Do you mean to say there is nothing at all? 21:50 hoodedice lol 21:50 Jordach i saw on the image 21:52 Peacock dont destroy twoelks' stuff 21:52 hoodedice ? 21:52 hoodedice I dont see it? 21:52 Peacock he decided to build on the ocean floor 21:52 hoodedice Nor will I remove anything that is already built 21:52 hoodedice OK. 21:56 hoodedice Hey this twoelk guy? 21:56 hoodedice What's up with his structure? 21:58 Peacock ? 22:00 thexyz PilzAdam: do you really browse web with JS disabled? 22:00 hoodedice It's under my nation, but he's of another nation 22:00 PilzAdam almost disabled, I have a whitelist in noscript 22:01 thexyz good 22:01 Peacock he's in both since he's built alot of stuff in both 22:01 hoodedice Why do you do that @Pilz? 22:02 hoodedice hmm @Peacock : Dual-citizenship I see. 22:02 Peacock and i admin all nations now 22:03 hoodedice (Now that I've found my nation, I'm at peace and can go to sleep now) 22:06 * Jordach comes back with hot buttery toast 22:07 Peacock as opposed to ugly buttery toast? :p 22:09 hoodedice Peacock, what's up with these bunch of errors? 22:09 Peacock not sure 22:09 Peacock how do i figure out which mod causes this: 22:09 Peacock Map::setNode(): Not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air" at (-243,101,6) (block (-16,6,0)) 22:10 hoodedice Yup that one 22:10 hoodedice I got it - occurs on placing sign on top of a node 22:10 Peacock ah i think i know why 22:14 Peacock stupid sign_yard references 22:14 PilzAdam Jordach, is the toast still alive? 22:15 * Jordach ate it 22:16 Jordach btw, i'm referencing one of BlockMen's mods 22:17 hoodedice Dude, Prison 22:17 hoodedice lol 22:19 hoodedice Peacock? 22:22 Peacock what about prison"? 22:22 hoodedice dude's stuck in prison 22:23 hoodedice A genuine case of pure and absolute 22:23 hoodedice stupidity 22:23 Peacock well how stupid do you have to be to beam out of freebuild and try to do shit in a protected area? 22:24 hoodedice He pressed the button on the teleporter 22:24 hoodedice That's stupid. 22:25 Peacock lol 22:26 Peacock more lols 22:26 Jordach that's like me playing GTA 4 and killed thousands of people with the cops chasing me, and then handing myself over 22:26 hoodedice And now he's auto-jailed for prison break 22:27 Peacock i think ill let darwin handle this one 22:27 Jordach see, look, right now he's probably turning in his grave 22:27 hoodedice Darwin nomination 22:27 hoodedice Indeed 22:28 hoodedice What should I say? 22:29 hoodedice No can do? 22:29 Peacock not your problem lol 22:29 hoodedice Indeed 22:31 Peacock in any case im thinking of adding a basic arithmetic before letting people on 22:31 Peacock *arithmetic question 22:31 hoodedice haha 22:33 hoodedice How about Sinx/Cosx? 22:34 Peacock more like 2 + 2 = ? lol 22:34 hoodedice TOO HARD ! 22:35 hoodedice Because that's a problem for 1st graders, and I'm in college lolol 22:35 hoodedice No way I can solve that ! 22:35 Peacock or if i wanted to go all trek, id put them in a room with four lights and ask how many lights do they see (correct answer is 5) 22:36 hoodedice How so? 22:40 FreeFull Today I learned ? lol = 4 22:40 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/t70NKIk.png 22:40 FreeFull Jordach: I want that 22:40 hoodedice How so? 22:40 * Jordach to 22:40 FreeFull Win 3.x hell yeah 22:41 Jordach too* 22:41 hoodedice FreeFull get on WaterWorld 22:41 FreeFull hoodedice: Is there something new? 22:42 hoodedice Ya, started a new nation 22:42 hoodedice =/ 22:42 thexyz Peacock: 1+1 22:42 thexyz =? 22:42 thexyz http://de2.eu.apcdn.com/full/107734.png 22:42 hoodedice I KNOW !!! 22:42 hoodedice 11 22:43 hoodedice thexyz ; I did not see that 22:43 hoodedice *: 22:43 thexyz get it? 22:44 hoodedice Those pictures on the bottom... 22:44 Peacock the worst part is alot of these kids still get passing grades in school lol 22:44 hoodedice Indeed 22:46 PilzAdam whats 101 base i? 22:47 Peacock all your base are belong to us, obviously 22:47 hoodedice -.- 22:48 PilzAdam its 0 22:48 PilzAdam I guess it doesnt really make sense at a base for any system, but its fun 22:48 hoodedice Peacock 22:49 Peacock dont you just hate it when people ask questions they already know the answer to? like "does this dress make me look fat?" :P 22:49 hoodedice Connection problem 22:51 FreeFull Peacock: Where's smoker's dome? 22:52 hoodedice New nation free 22:52 PilzAdam oh wait, its 2, 11 base i would be 0 22:52 hoodedice Nursomething has expanded 22:52 hoodedice So we've relocated 22:52 hoodedice teleport to Nursomething Annex 22:52 FreeFull Peacock: I can't do anything in my house anymore 22:53 Peacock you had a house there? when i check it out, there were 3 little towers 22:53 hoodedice *Two towers a wall, and a house. 22:53 jojoa1997 bbl 22:54 hoodedice *, 22:55 hoodedice Peacock : Connection problems 22:55 Peacock i think ill just take twoelk's cue and setup bigger countries much further out 22:55 Peacock like 10,15,20K away from spawn 22:55 PilzAdam apparently my calculations are complete bullshit 22:55 FreeFull Peacock: Says my house is part of aquilea 22:55 hoodedice *Facepalm* 22:56 hoodedice Dude... 22:56 hoodedice Smoker's dome is now a part of Numex 22:56 FreeFull This was the freebuild area before 22:56 hoodedice Not freebuild 22:56 FreeFull I didn't build my house in the smoker area 22:56 Peacock yeah i changed protection systems since then 22:57 Peacock freebuild is this small area northeast now 22:57 hoodedice So you are now in my nation, Corellia. 22:57 FreeFull hoodedice: I had a house in the freebuild area 22:57 Peacock sokomine and twoelk needed protection so i made a country there 22:57 hoodedice I had two towers 22:57 hoodedice =) 22:57 FreeFull Not in the smokers nation 22:58 hoodedice Forget it. Start from scratch 22:58 FreeFull I made a tower in the smoker's nation 22:58 FreeFull For observation 22:58 hoodedice IN THE SMOKERS NATION ! 22:58 hoodedice Wait. -,- 22:58 hoodedice wut? 22:58 hoodedice *-.- 22:58 hoodedice And Peacock : Connection problems. -.- 22:58 FreeFull hoodedice: My house was in the freebuild area, my tower was in smoker's nation 22:58 hoodedice whatever 22:59 hoodedice Protection ranges have changed 22:59 hoodedice Move out. Period. 22:59 FreeFull I have no idea if the tower exists anymore 22:59 FreeFull Or if I am the citizen of any nation 22:59 hoodedice Make another one ! 22:59 hoodedice You are a citizen of Correlia now. 23:00 hoodedice Teleport to Numex Annex and turn around 23:00 Peacock simple, i filled up my space, smokers had a nearly empty disk, so i took it 23:00 FreeFull hoodedice: Three colums there but not my tower 23:00 Peacock 6 23:00 Peacock lol 23:01 FreeFull 6 23:01 hoodedice Forget it ! 23:01 hoodedice Man... 23:01 FreeFull I just want to visit it before I habitatte correlia 23:01 FreeFull habitate 23:01 FreeFull If it still exists at all 23:02 Peacock https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=107715#p107715 23:02 FreeFull There was also a bunker but I don't care about that 23:02 FreeFull Peacock: I like those 23:02 hoodedice Those bunkers were white? 23:02 Peacock well hold off building anything important, ill probably create a few aritificial islands and new countries if you want one of those 23:03 FreeFull The bunker looked like concrete and was filled with monitors 23:03 FreeFull It was below smoker's nation, sort of bolted on 23:03 FreeFull The tower was right by the teleporter 23:03 Peacock in the last two weeks i also got rid of alot of news when i enabled upside-down placement 23:03 Peacock *nodes not news 23:04 hoodedice Wow. -,- . Hold off building... 23:04 hoodedice *-.- 23:04 Peacock only if you want an island 23:04 FreeFull I'm not building anything 23:04 Peacock otherwise disregard 23:04 hoodedice " The bunker looked like concrete and was filled with monitors" ladders? 23:04 hoodedice And signs outside 23:04 hoodedice Yeah, those are mine 23:04 FreeFull No sign 23:04 FreeFull Just an entrance 23:04 FreeFull It was tiny 23:04 hoodedice *were 23:05 Peacock well i redecked the disks so you might not be able to find it lol 23:05 FreeFull I am talking about one I made ages ago 23:05 Peacock nodebox grating was dragging FPS down too much 23:05 hoodedice Whatever 23:05 FreeFull Maybe if I get up really high and boost my range 23:05 hoodedice I;m still unable to connect 23:05 hoodedice Darn 23:06 FreeFull Wtf, this tower near spawn doesn't even have any way to go up 23:06 Peacock a few of them are missing stairwells lol 23:06 FreeFull I see =P 23:07 Peacock still waiting for a non-teleport elevator too lol 23:07 FreeFull Found one with a stairwell 23:07 FreeFull I think I even climbed this one before 23:07 FreeFull Dammit, just realised clouds will get in the way 23:08 Peacock i disabled clouds on my client a long time ago 23:08 Peacock at the height they are, its more like fog lol 23:08 hoodedice http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1JyzHgP6tRo/Tzcyue1LoOI/AAAAAAAAVwk/UibJVSbQ46Y/s1600/316445_166056220152808_141498899275207_324992_313990263_n.jpg 23:08 FreeFull This might actually be a bit too high 23:08 hoodedice Disabled clouds? 23:08 hoodedice I still get em 23:09 hoodedice Anyway Peacock, can you bother a restart? 23:09 FreeFull hoodedice: Lady mcbeth said something about you being banned 23:09 hoodedice what for? 23:09 FreeFull No idea 23:09 hoodedice =/ 23:10 hoodedice *Flashback* 23:11 FreeFull I can't see anything other than the tops of the nearby buildings 23:11 hoodedice trolled a dude in jail, interacted with a few out-of-nation blocks, put up some useless (but funnyornot) signs 23:11 FreeFull Too high 23:11 hoodedice hmm? 23:11 FreeFull Ground should be fine too 23:12 FreeFull Ok, that's the formerly freebuild area 23:12 hoodedice I don't think that's enough for a ban, but since I'm banned 23:13 FreeFull That's some island I have never seen before 23:13 FreeFull Oh, that's a freebuild area apparently 23:13 hoodedice white island? 23:13 FreeFull Says freebuild but is numenor 23:13 FreeFull Sign needs to be redacted 23:13 FreeFull Oh 23:14 FreeFull It actually placed the dirt block 23:14 hoodedice http://sd.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/i/keep-calm-and-talk-to-the-hand-23.png 23:14 FreeFull It is freebuild 23:14 Peacock wife says she banned you, and since she controls the sex, i aint going against her lol 23:14 hoodedice reason? 23:15 hoodedice Joke on periods?........................... 23:15 FreeFull Huh, a lot of underwater stuff 23:15 Peacock didn't ask, was smoking on the balcony 23:16 hoodedice Well, that's that. 23:21 FreeFull I walked around, my tower seems to be gone for good 23:21 FreeFull Time to go oto corellia 23:21 FreeFull All the buildings look really nice 23:22 Peacock there might have been an accident with eY in the old corellia, if thats where the tower was 23:22 FreeFull Oh wait, corellia dome is where I once built something but then took it down 23:23 FreeFull Used to be smoker's dome 23:23 hoodedice wow. Now you got it. 23:23 FreeFull Hmm, if I can somehow get out into the water I can swim straight to where I know my tower was 23:23 Peacock do you want an island? 23:23 FreeFull hoodedice: I did but now I saw proof 23:24 FreeFull I like building underwater 23:24 FreeFull Stairs into the water are still there but they are unknown blocks now 23:24 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7770896896/h50F950B0/ 23:25 Peacock highly probable when i added upside-down placement (6d) i got rid of all the upside down nodes 23:25 Peacock inventory went from 6 to 3.5 pages lol 23:25 hoodedice lol @kaeza 23:26 FreeFull Yep, I think one of the six colums is exactly where my tower used to be 23:26 FreeFull Peacock: The stairs were right side up 23:26 FreeFull Must have been when you got rid of something else 23:26 FreeFull Oh, thinking about it, my tower was made out of the same stuff as those stairs 23:26 FreeFull Once you removed stuff it must have been completely made out of unknown blocks 23:28 FreeFull Peacock: Are you sue on the sever? 23:28 FreeFull server* 23:28 Peacock shh, dont tell people ;P 23:28 Peacock otherwise id be babysitting all the kids 23:29 hoodedice XD 23:29 Peacock yeah i did run a cleanup script on unknown blocks, there were a shitton 23:29 Peacock i made Ardenia, 5K from the nearest development, should provide ample room 23:31 hoodedice Peacock, reason found yet? 23:31 FreeFull Peacock: You could have said no =P 23:31 FreeFull Peacock: I bet there wasn't a single block of my tower left 23:31 FreeFull Or my bunker 23:32 Peacock there wasn't anything there when i got there, though i know someone fucked up with the worldeditor and ended up clearing a huge area so 23:33 Peacock working on node protection * multinode now 23:34 FreeFull I guess my old house is part of the ol' freebuild museum 23:38 FreeFull Server is lagging 23:41 FreeFull Hmm, should the rim be white glass or black glass 23:46 hoodedice so... 23:54 Jordach bull. shit. 23:54 Jordach lost every damn game of solitair 23:54 Jordach e* 23:55 FreeFull I think a transparent top with an opaque bottom will be good 23:55 hoodedice (And I am mererly forgotten) 23:55 hoodedice Peacock isn't here btw