Time Nick Message 00:00 PilzAdam lol 00:01 VanessaE theinvsblman: I've pitched your idea to the development channel. let's see if it garners any interest. 00:02 theinvsblman btw, is the world infinitely tall? 00:02 VanessaE 62kb from top to bottom 00:02 VanessaE er 62 km 00:02 VanessaE water is at the 31km mark from the bottom, y=1 00:03 theinvsblman how about the horizontal size? 00:03 VanessaE same. 00:03 VanessaE the whole map is roughly 62 x 62 x 62 km. 00:03 VanessaE (if you were to generate the entire thing, of course) 00:04 theinvsblman well in practice that's infinite 00:04 VanessaE nearly so yeah :) 00:04 VanessaE but some people have dug down to -31k without much trouble 00:04 theinvsblman even on crowded minecraft servers i've never seen anyone go further than 10-20 km 00:05 theinvsblman also, is the game logic (blocks, items, etc) written in lua or run natively? 00:05 VanessaE most game logic is Lua 00:05 VanessaE we have LuaJIT support, so well-written mods perform almost as fast as C++ 00:06 VanessaE (if you have compiled against that lib) 00:06 theinvsblman nice, i've always wanted to write a minecraft mod but 00:06 theinvsblman minecraft is really a programmer's worst nightmare 00:06 VanessaE lol 00:06 VanessaE so I've heard :) 00:06 theinvsblman also, what about the networking? 00:07 VanessaE what about it? :) 00:07 theinvsblman for example minecraft is so advanced it implements relativistic physics 00:07 theinvsblman two events dont have to be simultaneous 00:07 VanessaE oh 00:07 theinvsblman for different observers 00:07 theinvsblman that's how crappy the networking is there 00:07 acerspyro Wow, I have no sound and textures are all messed up 00:07 VanessaE I'm not sure. there's some prediction in minetest but there's room for improvement 00:10 theinvsblman i see that the mods are downloaded automatically from the server 00:10 VanessaE no 00:10 VanessaE mods run on the server 00:10 PilzAdam theinvsblman, it deosnt exactly download the whole mod 00:10 VanessaE only the media, models, etc. are downloaded 00:10 PilzAdam for security reasons 00:10 VanessaE the code runs on the server. 00:10 theinvsblman that's still good 00:14 theinvsblman well it seems that minetest has much more potential that minecraft 00:15 theinvsblman the only thing that bugs me is the simple gui, but i guess it will be done in future 00:15 theinvsblman where can i find a wiki or a manual? 00:16 theinvsblman i'm interested in learning the game 00:16 theinvsblman nvm, didn't notice the link in the topic 00:16 VanessaE simple GUI? 00:17 theinvsblman well it looks really simple 00:17 theinvsblman basically just colored rectangles 00:18 VanessaE I'm not sure I understand. can you post a screenshot? 00:18 PilzAdam VanessaE, I guess he means the default inventory 00:18 VanessaE oh that 00:18 VanessaE yeah 00:18 VanessaE there ain't much to it :P 00:18 VanessaE get the X-GUI mod :) 00:19 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4001 00:19 VanessaE assuming it still works 00:19 VanessaE it's kinda old 00:21 theinvsblman seems like it doesn't 00:21 theinvsblman or requires some configuration i'm unaware of 00:21 VanessaE bummer 00:26 Exio4 VanessaE: seems legit i "just get" +4~7fps with it commented 00:27 Exio4 but the FPS meter in the profiler isn't that "exact" as the one in the window 00:27 Evergreen theinvsblman: I could make you better hotbar textures, but I can't do anything about the inventory 00:27 Evergreen How old is you build of minetest? 00:27 Evergreen *yuor 00:27 Evergreen *Your 00:27 theinvsblman a few hours old 00:28 Exio4 probably a xfce4-user-problem 00:29 PilzAdam Exio4, with which DE have you tested it? 00:29 Exio4 not a DE 00:29 Exio4 dwm 00:29 Exio4 http://dwm.suckless.org/ 00:29 Evergreen Then I think your version supports hotbar textures then 00:30 theinvsblman is it possible to change the game's fov? 00:30 VanessaE Exio4: either way it's a clear performance improvement for no appreciable loss, since fps could be easily moved into the F5 display. 00:30 Evergreen In mods? How exactly? 00:31 PilzAdam theinvsblman, yes, in minetest.conf you can change the fov setting 00:31 theinvsblman do i have to restart the game for the change to take effect? 00:31 Evergreen Oh, that fov. :P 00:31 Exio4 you could use /set fov 00:32 theinvsblman thanks, i'm used to playing on fov 120 00:32 Exio4 "Quake Pro"? :P 00:32 theinvsblman yes 00:32 theinvsblman i also play quake 3 with that fov :P 00:32 Exio4 i use 110 in MT 00:33 PilzAdam fun fact: increasing FOV doesnt make you a better player 00:33 Exio4 lol 00:33 theinvsblman depends on the person 00:33 Exio4 it does in a FPS because you can see moar stuff around! :P 00:34 theinvsblman btw. what are the plans for future releases? are you going to clone minecraft or create an original gameplay? 00:34 PilzAdam Minetest is mainly an engine for games 00:34 Exio4 http://dev.minetest.net/TODO 00:35 PilzAdam the games consist basically of a bunch of mods 00:35 PilzAdam so its up to the games to define the actual gameplay 00:36 theinvsblman interesting 00:38 theinvsblman hm, i don't see anything about collision detection in the todo 00:38 Exio4 what collision detection "improvement"? 00:39 PilzAdam that TODO list is kinda arbitrary 00:39 theinvsblman movements gets glitchy when i collide with a low ceiling 00:39 theinvsblman it's also glitchy when i collide with block edges 00:39 theinvsblman horizontally 00:41 Exio4 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues 00:41 Exio4 :D 00:41 PilzAdam if people have good ideas or pull requests then we do that 00:42 Exio4 ^ 00:42 Exio4 minetest doesn't have a "very well defined plan" :/ 01:20 PilzAdam bye 01:26 NekoGloop mew 01:27 LinuxGuy2020 I have a few newbie questions. How do you find your house after you die and end up in timbucktu? After you create a sign, is it possible to edit the text on it yet or is that still being developed or something? 01:29 ShadowNinja LinuxGuy2020: You can edit signs. And you can use a mod like sethome tofind your house. 01:31 LinuxGuy2020 ok cool thanks 01:48 NekoGloop Meow 01:49 LinuxGuy2020 One thing I really wish I could change is to reverse the function of the mouse wheel. Is this possible? 01:53 Peacock ? it rolls both ways :P 01:53 Peacock or do you mean change the function of the mousewheel? 01:54 LinuxGuy2020 Yeah like mouse wheel forward makes the selected item go to the right and wheel backward goes left. 01:54 LinuxGuy2020 Seems logical 01:54 LinuxGuy2020 up=forward down=back 01:55 Peacock if they made a change like that they might as well do invert y axis and invert mouse buttons too 01:55 Peacock seems to be different from one voxel game to the next anyhow 01:55 Peacock options i mean 01:56 LinuxGuy2020 yeah 01:56 * NekoGloop bites Peacock 01:57 Peacock dont do that, you'll get a potent mix of caffeine, nicotine and alcohol :P 01:57 Peacock you'll be climbing the homedecor curtains :P 01:58 LinuxGuy2020 How long do torches burn for? Forever? 01:58 Peacock yep 01:58 LinuxGuy2020 sweet 01:58 Peacock i would hope so, theyre not too bright 01:59 Peacock rather the range is limited so you need manies 02:00 LinuxGuy2020 I kind of came up with my own "trick" to remeber where my house is. Build it at x=0 y=0. Cant forget it. 02:01 Peacock well you can still end up walking 30K before finding it :P 02:02 LinuxGuy2020 true but at least Ill know exactly where it is. 02:12 Peacock cmon breaking bad, upload already lol 02:16 ShadowNinja x=0, z=0 you mean? 02:16 Peacock that's spawn 02:16 Peacock he's prolly sticking to x=0, y=0 and only remembering Z 02:17 Peacock unless he's on a personal map then i assume spawn is open 02:18 ShadowNinja But the y is determined by the terrain, unless you dig or build a flying platfork. 02:18 ShadowNinja -k+m 02:19 Peacock if it's under you can always dig nearby dirt and pile it there 02:19 Peacock if its over, dig it lol 02:22 Peacock ugh, some reviewer claims CSI miami is better than under the dome 02:23 Peacock david caruso had his own little picard maneuver with those glasses lol 02:54 andersje hello hello hello 02:54 andersje VanessaE, are you still up? 02:54 VanessaE yeah 02:55 andersje just pushed v1.5 of stained glass...added non-luminescent stained_glass, made with default:glass, and low-glow stained_glass, made with moreblocks:glow_glass 02:55 VanessaE nice 02:55 VanessaE that's a shitton of nodes :) 02:55 VanessaE Sokomine: ^^^^^^^^ 02:55 andersje Metric shitton. 02:56 andersje the code is ghetto, but my oldest son really wanted non-luminescent stained glass, so.... 02:56 Peacock what is it in imperial shittons? :P 02:56 andersje to convert imperial shittons to metric, multiply it by 3, add four, and divide by 2. 02:57 andersje so 1 imperial shitton = ((1 * 3 ) + 4) /2) == 3.5 metric shittons. 02:57 Peacock lol 02:58 Peacock is texture_alpha still glitchy for you? 02:58 VanessaE yes, it is but not so much as to make it unuseable. 02:58 Peacock like different sections turning dark or not appearing in/under water? 02:58 Peacock ahh, pooh :( 02:58 Peacock i made glass roads that hang one node above the water, and still the glitchyness :/ 03:01 sdzen better then my alpha glitches :) my minetest client insists on flickering anything with an alpha value ridiculously 03:03 Peacock sounds like even more fun :p 03:04 Peacock is 0.4.8 out yet? been gone a few days 03:04 VanessaE notyet 03:04 sdzen I am very surprised it isnt 0.4.9 by now 03:05 andersje so....do massive numbers of potential nodes slow the game down a lot? 03:05 sdzen we should have had a new release quite a while ago 03:05 Peacock has RBA returned from the Isle of Elba? 03:25 VanessaE isle of elba? 03:25 VanessaE what? 03:25 Peacock napolean referrence :P 03:28 kaeza nah RBA is not napoleon, PA is :P 03:30 Peacock PulseAudio was defeated at waterloo? :p 03:40 sdzen explains why pavucontrol isnt working 03:40 sdzen at least its better then me blaming celtic dancing for it 03:48 Peacock i dont mind pavucontrol i just wish i had a sound icon (tray) lol 04:36 OldCoder VanessaE, Sokomine My worlds are back as of tomorrow night. Actually they are up now but may need to be restarted and checked for damage. 04:36 OldCoder If they work for a while, time to look into merging LevelDB. Kaeza said a few people would help. Or deciding to wait for official upstream. 04:41 VanessaE cool 08:09 sfan5 hi everyone 08:10 Calinou hi 08:35 Calinou anypony* 09:31 DanDuncombe VanessaE, you wanted to talk? 09:32 VanessaE there we go 09:32 VanessaE yeah, just didn't wanna clutter the server chaty 09:32 DanDuncombe Private chat? 09:32 VanessaE chat* 09:32 Calinou hi VanessaE, can I have interact on your survival server please? (if I don't have it) 09:33 Calinou thanks in advance 09:33 VanessaE you already have it :P 09:33 Calinou ah 09:33 Calinou you're sharing the auth.txt file between servers, right? 09:34 VanessaE nope 09:35 VanessaE I copied it over, removed fly and noclip 09:35 VanessaE (since survival shoudn't have those :) ) 09:37 meldrian Is there a working version of skyblock für minetest? 09:38 meldrian i checked out some of the forums topic 09:38 Calinou lots of them 09:38 Calinou look at the Maps section 09:42 meldrian sometimes to good stuff is simply to easy to find 09:42 meldrian thx 10:31 MinetestBot GIT: xyzz commited to minetest/minetest: Remove "po/du". "du" is invalid language code (fixes #881). d470842e8e 2013-08-26T03:30:17-07:00 http://git.io/oJEAEg 10:37 Mossmanikin Hi, just wanted to check this channel out :) 10:43 Zeg9 Hi there 10:43 Zeg9 is it a wanted behavior that the attachment pos is ignored, at least for players? 10:43 PenguinDad hi Zeg9 10:44 Mossmanikin Hi Zeg & Penguin 10:46 Mossmanikin @ Zeg9: what do you mean? 10:46 Zeg9 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1555 10:46 Zeg9 When I attach a player to an entity, it seems to ignore the "position" argument 10:47 * Zeg9 is making an issue on gh 10:47 Mossmanikin Ok, can't answer that question :D 10:48 Aki__ Hiya. Is there a working version of Mob Frameworld (mobf) out there? I'm using minetest 0.4.7 on Ubuntu 12.04. 10:48 Aki__ The versions I have tried have all resulted in crashes 10:49 Mossmanikin Hi Aki 10:49 sfan5 !g mobf minetest 10:49 MinetestBot sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=629 10:49 sfan5 Aki__: you've tries 2.1.2? 10:49 sfan5 also: what minetest version? 10:49 sfan5 *which 10:49 sfan5 *tried 10:49 PenguinDad At the moment there isn't a good version 0.4.7 10:50 Aki__ Thanks sfan5. I've been to that link before and I tried 2.1.2. 2.1.2 causes a crash when I go anywhere near a vombie. I then tried 2.1.83 (which I found on GIThub) and that crashed the entire game when trying to generate a new world 10:50 Aki__ sfan5: I'm using minetest 0.4.7 10:51 sfan5 0.4.7 stable or git? 10:51 sfan5 -> have you used the official 0.4.7 download? 10:51 Aki__ sfan5: I'm using 0.4.7 which is located here: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+packages 10:52 sfan5 oh.. you're not using windows.. 10:52 Aki__ I found that link via the Download page on the minetest website 10:52 Aki__ I'm using Ubuntu 10:52 Aki__ ( <3 Ubuntu! ) 10:53 PenguinDad the vombie problem has to do with #887 10:53 Aki__ I really like minetest, but I only want to play it if there are monsters like in minecraft. 10:53 theinvsblman do mods work in singleplayer (latest build)? 10:53 sfan5 theinvsblman: yes 10:53 PenguinDad at the moment it's better to use simple mobs 10:54 sfan5 Aki__: could you pastebin the error message? 10:54 theinvsblman hm, looks like i'm doing something wrong 10:54 Mossmanikin @ Aki: you know the command "/mobf_settings"? 10:54 theinvsblman i put them in ~/.minetest/mods, they are listed in the mod menu but nothing changes in-game 10:54 PenguinDad theinvsblman: RUN_IN_PLACE? 10:54 Aki__ sfan5: I can pastebin the message I get with 2.1.2 (the vombie crash), but I can't for 2.1.83 because it crashes the entire game to desktop. 10:55 theinvsblman RUN_IN_PLACE=0 10:55 Aki__ Mossmanikin: I'm not aware of that command. 10:55 sfan5 Aki__: pastebin the error from 2.1.2 10:55 Mossmanikin You can use it ingame 10:56 Zeg9 Aki__: "it crashes the entire game to desktop" <- see ~/.minetest/debug.txt 10:56 PenguinDad I run minetest everytime from a terminal :) 10:57 Zeg9 bbl 10:58 Mossmanikin Hi Calinou 10:58 Calinou hi 10:59 Aki__ Zeg9: thanks 11:02 Aki__ sfan5: http://pastebin.com/ZitsaaAF 11:03 sfan5 Aki__: you should report that bug in the mobf thread 11:04 Mossmanikin Hi neko 11:04 sfan5 Aki__: could you paste the 2.1.2 error too? 11:04 Aki__ sfan5: this is the crash from mobf 2.1.2: http://pastebin.com/CnJEt79K 11:04 Aki__ I just made it happen again 11:04 Aki__ I'm pretty sure it occurs from looking at a vombie 11:05 Aki__ With the 2.1.2 crashyou can actually play during the day, but then during the night if you go outside and look at a vombie it causes that crash. If you stay inside away from the vombies then you can make it through the night. Are my vombies trying to escape from the gameworld? :O 11:06 kahrl Aki__, open builtin/deprecated.lua and make this change: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/392689e7ba9980efcea87ca6cb9fcfa64330d009 11:06 sfan5 hm 11:07 Aki__ kahrl: which mobf is this a fix for? 2.1.2? 11:07 kahrl I don't know about mobf versions 11:08 kahrl any that still use the old "minetest.env:" syntax 11:09 sfan5 maybe we should release 0.4.8 now? 11:09 sfan5 then we don't have to tell anyone to apply this change to get it working 11:12 Mossmanikin Hi iqualfragile 11:12 sfan5 Mossmanikin: he just quit and instantly rejoined, thats not a reason to say hello 11:13 Aki__ sfan5: I only tried minetest for the first time yesterday. It's a really impressive game, but the lack of mobs and then the crashing that occurs when I install mobf (which is linked from the home page as a "popular" mod) taints the experience. I'm geeky so I've persisted with this, but I imagine you loose a lot of novice users through this. 11:13 Mossmanikin Allright then :D Just wanted to be nice... 11:13 Aki__ ... I'm not putting the project down though. It's awesome! 11:14 sfan5 Aki__: 0.4.8 is supposed to be released soon(tm), the bug is already fixed in the unstable/git version 11:15 Mossmanikin @ Aki: did you try https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7027? 11:15 Calinou lol, I got a Minegeld by cutting a tree 11:16 Mossmanikin gz :D 11:17 Mossmanikin Hi sapier 11:17 sapier hello 11:17 Aki__ Mossmanikin: nope but it looks good ^-^ 11:18 theinvsblman what is RUN_IN_PLACE for? 11:19 Calinou theinvsblman: it puts user data in the directory where you compiled minetest, instead of ~/.minetest 11:19 theinvsblman ok, thanks 11:19 Mossmanikin Aki: if you want to get rid of some mobs, type "/mobf_settings" and there will appear a window where you can disable them 11:19 theinvsblman how do i make the server load mods from ~/.minetest? 11:20 theinvsblman or is it not supposed to happen? 11:20 theinvsblman (local server) 11:20 Mossmanikin Hi Adam 11:20 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:20 Calinou ._. 11:21 Calinou axes are useless 11:21 Mossmanikin I guess one can tell I'm new to the IRC thing by my saying "Hi" to everyone :D 11:21 Calinou and shovel barely useful 11:22 sfan5 sapier: Aki__ was having a problem with mobf 2.1.83 http://pastebin.com/ZitsaaAF 11:29 Mossmanikin Calinou: your stoneage mod at least partially solves this 11:30 Calinou I didn't make it 11:30 Mossmanikin Calinou: damn, sorry, the stoneage mod 11:31 Mossmanikin Hi 2 the 2 of U 11:32 Evergreen Hello Mossmanikin 11:33 Mossmanikin Evergreen: felt like checking this channel out 11:35 iqualfragile hi Mossmanikin 11:36 Mossmanikin Hi Semilevel 11:36 Semilevel Hello 11:38 Evergreen Hi Jordach 11:38 Jordach Evergreen: i just got out of bed, it's 12:38 PM here 11:38 Zeg9 Hey Evergreen, Jordach 11:39 Evergreen It's been a while Zeg9. :P 11:39 Jordach hey Zeg9 11:39 * Jordach thinks we should all eat our Zeggies 11:39 * Jordach also thinks Zeggie as a short name for Zeg9 11:40 Zeg9 wut? 11:40 Mossmanikin Hi Jordach :D 11:40 Jordach huh 11:40 Jordach don't scare me, i haven't hada chance to check the nick's yet 11:41 Jordach +<0x20> -<0x20> 11:41 Jordach just moving the spaces about 11:42 Aki__ kahrl: that fix you linked me has worked. 11:42 Mossmanikin Hi damir 11:42 Aki__ kahrl: good news: mobf 2.1.2 is no longer crashing when I see vombies. Bad news: I just got chased around the map by a vombie ^-^ 11:43 Mossmanikin Aki: :D 11:43 damir__ hello Mossmanikin 11:43 Evergreen Jordach: I just call him Zeg. :P 11:43 Jordach haha 11:44 Mossmanikin Jordach: Whattaf...? :D 11:44 * Evergreen is going to go get some breakfast, afk 11:45 Zeg9 Hey 11:46 * Zeg9 understands why nobody made an elevator mod yet... 11:47 Jordach Zeg9: travelnet has elevators 11:47 Zeg9 Yep but I was trying to make one that actually moves 11:48 Jordach you place the elevator nodes in-line with each other and choose the floor you go to 11:53 Mossmanikin Zeg9: I'd love to see some elevators like in Unreal I 11:53 sapier sfan5 thanks 11:55 Calinou elevator is possible downwards only 11:55 Calinou if you want to use an entity 11:55 Calinou err, nevermind 11:55 Calinou just attach player to entity 11:55 Calinou but then you can't move freely on elevator 11:55 Aki__ what's the coolest new features coming up in 0.4.8? Other than that bug fix I was just given? 11:55 Calinou http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 11:55 PenguinDad Drowning 11:55 Calinou quite a lot of stuff 11:56 Aki__ PenguinDad: I didn't know you couldn't drown. 11:57 * Evergreen is back 11:57 Evergreen No, you couldn't drown previously 11:57 sapier I guess modstore is coolest new feature ;-) 11:57 sapier but shaders are close 11:57 Jordach holy shit 11:57 Aki__ " Added support for bumpmapping (RealBadAngel)" Thanks realbadangel! 11:57 Calinou texture pack selection is great too 11:57 Calinou Aki__: fake bumpmapping, but still 11:57 * Jordach just found the original source to the Sam I skin 11:57 Calinou parallax mapping is planned 11:58 Aki__ sapier: what's a modstore? 11:58 sapier yes but the one adding texture pack selection forgot to add a download button 11:58 Evergreen Also, luavoxelmanipulator was added 11:58 Zeg9 Calinou, that would work if the attachment position argument was *not* ignored 11:58 sapier you will be able to search and install mods from within minetest as of 0.4.8 11:58 Evergreen Which allows for much faster setting of large amunts of nodes 11:58 Evergreen like in worldedit 12:00 Zeg9 where is gone that texture pack selection thing 12:00 Zeg9 was it merged? 12:00 sapier yes 12:00 Zeg9 can't find it in the menu 12:00 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/Nm57vKD.png 12:01 Calinou -1 for hiding extensions 12:01 * Calinou doesn't see Jordach's porn folder there 12:01 Aki__ I think I'm going to wait for 0.4.8 before getting into this game. Will the Ubuntu repository linked to from the minetest download page be updated with the new version? 12:01 Zeg9 "New Folder (2)" 12:01 Jordach Calinou: from every OS install i kept the last stuff i kept 12:02 sapier zeg9 no idea whats wrong for you I can see it even without any texture pack installed 12:02 Jordach JESUS FUCK 12:03 * Jordach found 2x 1.3.1 MC server worlds 12:03 PilzAdam \o/ "DVD RW Drive (F:) Install Linux" 12:03 Zeg9 sapier, forget this, the git was messed up again 12:03 Mossmanikin k, folks, I really need some sleep, have fun ;) 12:04 Zeg9 Bye 12:04 * Jordach found MinetestBot's first skin 12:04 Jordach fun fact: it doesn't have the bow 12:05 Jordach fun fact: i once wrote bash to convert texture pacs 12:05 Jordach packs* 12:05 sapier jordach you too? 12:05 Jordach sapier: yes, 12:05 Jordach OMFG 12:05 sapier I guess almost everyone did this ;-) 12:05 Jordach i even found the Red Eclipse Map i made 12:06 Jordach fun fact: you know my MC4MT was accidentially binned on my PC? 12:07 Jordach i found it, hidden away from xubuntu -> vista transfer 12:08 Calinou sapier: I converted packs by hand 12:10 sapier you poor one ;-) 12:11 * Jordach has dug back to March 2012 12:12 * Jordach found snow mod 1.2 12:13 Jordach brb 12:15 * Jordach is cleaning the Sam I texture 12:18 Jordach cleaned: http://i.imgur.com/xaBJuNB.png 12:18 Jordach built from it's true source file 12:19 Calinou its* 12:20 PenguinDad The rules of writing are like magic spells. 12:24 Jordach completely bollocks 12:34 theinvsblman does hud_change work on all types of hud elements? 12:35 PilzAdam theinvsblman, on all elements that are added via Lua, yes 12:37 theinvsblman weird, for me it works only on statbars 12:37 theinvsblman i'm trying to change the text property of an image 12:40 Zeg9 Is mauvebic's teleporters mod available somewhere? 12:41 Jordach Zeg9: ask Peacock 12:43 Evergreen Does anyone like my Github avatar? I made it myself (like every other banner/avatar I have ever used) 12:44 Calinou what's your account name 12:44 Evergreen 4Evergreen4 12:44 Evergreen Because Evergreen was taken 12:44 PenguinDad Evergreen: it's better than the old one 12:44 Evergreen The pixel art one? 12:44 Calinou heh 12:45 Evergreen It wasn't that hard to make, the tree was actually the hardest part 12:46 Evergreen Well, I'm gonna be gone for a couple hours, so cya guys later 12:47 * Jordach looks at the template human model again 12:47 Jordach jesus fuck; how did that HAPPEN. 12:47 * Jordach sees a ton of z-fightinh 12:50 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/OJep8qG.png 12:53 Zeg9 john_minetest: ServerExtented is ok anyway, modules can be disabled 12:58 PenguinDad !tw 371979417276661760 12:58 MinetestBot Site Maintenance August 31st 2013: https://github.com/blog/1603-site-maintenance-august-31st-2013 (@github) 12:59 Jordach !tw github 12:59 MinetestBot Site Maintenance August 31st 2013: https://github.com/blog/1603-site-maintenance-august-31st-2013 (@github) 12:59 Jordach just use github :P 13:00 PenguinDad Jordach: i like to use the IDs :P 13:00 * Jordach puts a kitten on PenguinDad's head 13:06 andersje zeg9: are you going to update the teleporters mod? 13:12 * Jordach isn't a fan of repairing UV 13:21 * Jordach pokes Calinou 13:35 * Jordach finally fixed the annoying z-fighting 13:35 Calinou ? 13:35 Jordach [13:50:57] http://i.imgur.com/OJep8qG.png 13:38 Calinou offset the arms a bit? 13:38 Calinou z-fighting happens for a reason 13:38 Jordach Calinou: it was the elbow's uv being wrong, it also started face tearing 13:39 Jordach (where the UV gets stretched by deform too far) 13:44 theinvsblman is it possible to change player physics using lua only? 13:44 PenguinDad yes 13:44 theinvsblman to what extent? 13:44 Jordach every last bit 13:45 andersje VanessaE: I wasn't trying to make work for you with the dyes thing -- I'd have been happy to rewrite that. 13:45 theinvsblman i'm interested in implementing the CPMA physics in minetest 13:45 theinvsblman because just walking is boring :P 13:45 andersje feel free, in the future, to just tell me: "rewrite it to use a loop." 13:46 Calinou theinvsblman: requires C++ changes 13:46 Calinou also, that'd be fun, lol 13:46 theinvsblman hm, too bad 13:46 theinvsblman but still, going to try doing that 13:47 andersje is there an easy way to rebase my git repo to the one I originally forked it from? 13:56 ShadowNinja andersje: git remote add upstream && git pull --rebase upstream master 13:58 theinvsblman is there a dot product operator defined for v3f? 13:58 hmmmm http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/classirr_1_1core_1_1vector3d.html#a0b247d39047c0e51ff16d0118bb396ab 14:00 theinvsblman ok, thanks 14:02 andersje thanks :) 15:28 Evergreen Wait, pumpkins aren't sandwiches 15:28 Evergreen :P 15:47 VanessaE andersje: oh it's no big deal at all. I just noticed a bug, figured I'd tackle it. 15:47 VanessaE also, hi :) 15:52 andersje np. I'm working on shortening this more, too 15:53 andersje i've got some ideas, using your loop approach, to how to get it shorter yet. 15:53 Evergreen Hey, does anyone know how to convert a continuous mesecons signal into a 1 tick pulse? 15:55 VanessaE sweet 15:55 VanessaE evergreen: 15:55 VanessaE pastebin coming 15:55 Evergreen k 15:55 PilzAdam VanessaE, could you draw a backpack texture for pilztest? its a whole node 15:56 Evergreen PilzAdam: Could you link me to the pilztest repository again? 15:57 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest 15:57 VanessaE Evergreen: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6029144/ 15:57 VanessaE set the delayer to its lowest setting 15:58 Jordach PilzAdam: suggestion: add thirst and hunger 15:58 PilzAdam Jordach, hunger is already done 15:59 Jordach (you might want to add temparature, too hot = slow death, too cold = you freeze when not doing anything) 15:59 VanessaE a backpack? eh.. 15:59 PilzAdam and I already though about thirs, Ill probably add that 15:59 * Jordach wants death by freezing 15:59 * Jordach pokes sfan5 16:00 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Jordach 16:00 Jordach sfan5: technic server :P 16:00 PilzAdam VanessaE, maybe look at the ugly texture I currently have to get an idea 16:00 sfan5 VanessaE: wouldn't that circuit ouput a pulse if the input gets switched off? 16:00 Jordach save the logoskyblock server 16:00 sfan5 .. 16:01 VanessaE sfan5: actually yeah it would, wrong gate on the end 16:01 VanessaE guess it needs a NAND 16:01 VanessaE not an XOR. 16:01 VanessaE it's been forever since I had to make an edge detector. :) 16:02 sfan5 Jordach: and now? 16:03 Jordach make a technic_game server 16:03 sfan5 link? 16:03 Jordach (perhaps combine technic with pilztest) 16:03 PenguinDad how do i make a node with an equivalent to the creative inventory? 16:03 PilzAdam Pilztest is not ready yet, dont use it in a stable server 16:04 VanessaE *sigh* I suck 16:04 PenguinDad VanessaE: why? 16:04 sfan5 Jordach: link? 16:04 PenguinDad you mean at formspec? 16:05 nore VanessaE: even better: an AND and a NOT (no delayer) 16:05 Jordach https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic_game 16:05 VanessaE PenguinDad: because i can't remember how to fricken build one now. 16:05 VanessaE THAT'S WHY 16:05 VanessaE damn it I knew I had it wrong 16:06 VanessaE Evergreen: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6029167/ 16:06 Jordach sfan5: it uses git submodules :( 16:09 Jordach Evergreen: wanna play minetest with the technic_game? 16:09 Evergreen Sure, I can't do it now though 16:09 * nore wants to try a technic_game server 16:10 sfan5 Jordach: heard of "git clone --recursive" ? 16:13 Jordach nope.avi 16:13 Jordach sfan5: github for windows does that normally 16:13 sfan5 any more mods? 16:13 Jordach travelnet 16:14 sfan5 !g travelnet minetest 16:14 MinetestBot sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4877 16:14 sfan5 others? 16:15 andersje is it legit to define a table key with the value "" ? 16:15 Jordach and no, we don't need the autodiggers / tree miners / grinders :P 16:15 sfan5 andersje: generally? yes 16:15 sfan5 Jordach: I was not about to do that :P 16:15 Jordach sfan5: blockmen's mines 16:15 sfan5 !g mines mod minetest 16:15 MinetestBot sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6307 16:16 * sfan5 pets MinetestBot 16:16 Jordach PilzAdam's beds mod 16:16 Jordach and *MAYBE* simple mobs 16:16 diemartin andersje, AFAIK only value that may not be used as a table key is nil 16:17 sfan5 !g minetest mod beds 16:17 MinetestBot sfan5: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mod_list 16:17 andersje thx. 16:17 Jordach sfan5: carts too 16:17 sfan5 !g minetest mod carts 16:17 MinetestBot sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2451 16:17 kaeza any other value is perfectly valid 16:17 andersje if not defined with "local" are all variables considered to be global? 16:17 kaeza yep 16:17 andersje cool 16:17 Jordach carts: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2451 beds: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2625 16:18 sfan5 I hate renaming these folders 16:18 ShadowNinja Now I know how MinetestBot got so high on those stats. sfan5 searches for every mod with it. 16:19 sfan5 The mod releases rules say the download should contains the mod folder with the right name 16:19 nore make a script that renames them automatically ;) 16:19 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I don't, I'm just lazy ATM 16:19 sfan5 nore: too much work 16:19 sfan5 contain* 16:19 kaeza sfan5, blame github for appending "-master" :P 16:19 nore I have a file with git repos and modnames on my computer 16:20 nore and one can update/install a mod with it easily 16:20 sfan5 kaeza: github does it like -- 16:20 sfan5 Jordach: are that all mods we need? 16:23 Jordach yup 16:23 kahrl it's kind of fun to see the viewing range adjuster in action when you hook the output of an inverter to its input 16:24 ShadowNinja LOL 16:24 PenguinDad plol 16:25 Jordach sfan5: address:port? 16:25 nore 1 toggle each server step -> slow... 16:26 PenguinDad nore: not if you change dedicated_server_step 16:27 nore yes, so you have choice between fast mesecons circuits or slowing the server when you do things like that 16:28 sfan5 Jordach: as usual 16:29 Jordach opkay 16:29 Jordach -p 16:29 nore sfan5, is that sfan5.dyndns.org:30000? 16:29 sfan5 yes 16:29 * Jordach waits for media as usual 16:29 sfan5 maybe I should setup and remote_media server 16:29 sfan5 I'll do that now 16:30 sfan5 minetestserver uses a ton of RAM 16:30 nore sfan5, it looks like it does not want to connect 16:31 Jordach !up sfan5.duckdns.org 30000 16:31 MinetestBot sfan5.duckdns.org:30000 is up (386ms) 16:31 sfan5 nore: try sfan5.duckdns.org 16:31 Jordach ninja'd 16:31 sfan5 grr 16:31 nore much better ;) 16:32 sfan5 I know that you don't have interact 16:32 sfan5 I'll resolve that problem in a moment 16:32 * Jordach is almost there 16:33 * nore too 16:34 Jordach is there n amounts of ore in the room? 16:37 nore !up sfan5.duckdns.org:30000 16:37 MinetestBot nore: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 16:37 sfan5 reconnect! 16:37 nore !up sfan5.duckdns.org 30000 16:37 MinetestBot sfan5.duckdns.org:30000 is up (315ms) 16:37 sfan5 with remote_media now too 16:39 nore Error: Client disconnected again :( 16:40 Jordach whoever suggested adding MORETREES was a MORON 16:42 sfan5 my computer died :'( 16:42 Jordach and that's moretrees 16:43 sfan5 not enough ram 16:43 nore !up sfan5.duckdns.org 30000 16:43 MinetestBot sfan5.duckdns.org:30000 seems to be down 16:43 nore sfan5: disable every tree except rubber 16:44 sfan5 how 16:45 nore https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees/blob/master/default_settings.txt 16:45 nore https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees/blob/master/init.lua#L28 16:46 sfan5 you can join the server again 16:46 sfan5 brb 16:47 Jordach you can remove moretrees 16:48 nore not if the server is survival 16:48 nore because we can't get rubber else 16:48 Jordach and who's idea was it to add moretrees 16:48 Jordach also: https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/technic/rubber.lua#L91 16:48 nore RealBadAngel's, I reckon 16:49 Jordach moretrees isnt needed 16:49 nore Jordach, old code 16:49 nore not executed 16:49 Jordach moretrees doesnt even work on older Pentium 4's 16:50 nore what do you mean, doesn't work? 16:50 Jordach the client just crashes and locks up 16:50 nore even with fancy_leaves=false? 16:51 Jordach sometimes 16:52 Jordach im getting close to lock ups 16:52 Jordach just by looking at a few moretrees 16:52 nore and what happens if you replace trees with dirt? 16:53 Jordach (and why aren't you using the inbuilt rubber trees, moretrees is just too big for small computers) 16:53 ShadowNinja Running two servers and two clients on the same machine == very bad idea. 16:53 ShadowNinja It desconnected me from my bouncer... 16:53 nore if fancy_leaves=false, there should be no differences 16:58 nore is the server survival? 17:11 Jordach ShadowNinja: moretrees needs to leave technic_game 17:12 Jordach my computer case is VERY WARM 17:13 ShadowNinja Jordach: It should be removed from the depencencies for technic, not sure about technic_game. But you can just rm it if the dependency is removed. 17:13 Jordach ShadowNinja: there is code in master -- that spawns a rubber tree 17:13 Jordach https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/technic/rubber.lua#L91 <- that is it 17:13 ShadowNinja Jordach: Yes, I know. 17:16 sfan5 Jordach: "if technic.config:getBool("enable_rubber_tree_generation") then" 17:16 nore sfan5, the code is not even executed, IIRC 17:16 Jordach but there's no mention of said config 17:17 sfan5 I'll just add a dofile for rubber.lua and replace the if with "if true then" 17:17 sfan5 luaerror :/ 17:18 sfan5 derp 17:18 sfan5 forgot you comment in lua using -- not # 17:18 nore sfan5, you should create a new world instead of using the old one 17:18 sfan5 it works! 17:18 sfan5 also that 17:18 sfan5 done 17:19 nore sfan5, did you see a rubber tree? 17:19 sfan5 not yet 17:20 sfan5 the server is up BTW 17:27 thexyz sfan5: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033 17:28 sfan5 mhm 17:40 Calinou what does it do? 17:45 andersje I'm trying to wrap my head around tables in lua...when I do this, I expect the first value of 'k' to be "first" rather than 1: http://pastebin.com/nFyCjsxd 17:45 andersje so...can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong? 17:46 sfan5 andersje: you have a table that contains a table that contains "first" and "firstval" 17:46 andersje I wanted a table of tables... 17:46 andersje an associate array as it were 17:47 andersje :s/associate/associative/ 17:47 andersje do I have to define it like: 17:47 andersje faketable.first="blah" ? 17:48 sfan5 andersje: this should work http://pastebin.com/8YFqnis3 17:48 andersje awesome, thank you 17:50 andersje first line in that example didn't work for me, but enclosing keynames with brackets did, thanks! 18:17 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks 18:18 Calinou hi 18:19 Jordach sfan5: im connecting with a directx client (for some reason ambiance really wants to drop my fps) 18:19 Calinou Direct3D, not DirectX 18:19 PenguinDad hi thefamilygrog66 18:19 thefamilygrog66 hello PenguinDad 18:20 thefamilygrog66 Can anyone answer this question? 18:20 thefamilygrog66 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=107576#p107576 18:21 sfan5 !title 18:21 MinetestBot sfan5: [Mod] Head of Steve [1.0] [stevehead] (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums 18:24 sfan5 thefamilygrog66: you may not use their textures 18:24 andersje hola, thefamilygrog66 18:24 sfan5 http://minecraft.net/terms 18:24 * Jordach screams FUCK as Jordach joins a server with HDX enabled 18:25 andersje rough day? 18:28 andersje is light a linear progression from 0 -> 15 ? 18:28 sfan5 Jordach: I found 4 uranium 18:28 * andersje thinks a bit 18:29 andersje what's the light level for moonlight? 18:31 thefamilygrog66 sfan5: I didn't take the textures from Minecraft though, but from an online skin creator (Skincraft). Does that still count? 18:31 sfan5 8 uranium now 18:31 sfan5 thefamilygrog66: the texture you used is the "old" steve head texture 18:32 sfan5 I don't know if you can use it 18:32 thefamilygrog66 Not sure how Skincraft get around that. 18:40 kaeza andersje, small note: when dealing with non-numeric keys, you cannot depend on the order of the key-value pairs 18:46 * john_minetest is messsing around with his system 18:58 hmmmm everyone, download and seed this: 18:58 hmmmm magnet:?xt=urn:btih:f8a942ccff260f7b9035bbf3b8af5c3013e21097&dn=Paraborn+Leaks&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.publicbt.com%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.istole.it%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.ccc.de%3A80&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337 18:59 kaeza :I 19:00 PenguinDad my provider doesn't allow p2p :P 19:00 hmmmm leaked super secret NSA software for cracking SSL. oh, by the way, SSL is completely useless. i recommend using TLS 1.0 with RC4, or TLS 1.1, 1.2 with AES 19:00 thexyz will I get in jail for that? 19:00 PenguinDad https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=107611#p107611 19:00 hmmmm thexyz, no. not only is downloading files not illegal, but you're from russia 19:01 hmmmm for an overview of what this is (well part of it, anyway) check out this (official company literature): http://www.scribd.com/doc/162984271/SSL-Locksmith 19:02 sfan5 hmmmm: you recommend RC4? isn't that broken? 19:02 thexyz everything is broken 19:02 thexyz more or less 19:02 hmmmm yeah, ^ 19:02 sfan5 heh 19:02 thexyz rc4 is less broken and more widely supported 19:03 andersje kaeza: thanks, I'm used to perl %hashes, so I don't need things to show up in a specific order 19:03 hmmmm there's a problem with other ciphers in TLS 1.0 19:03 hmmmm so it's commonly recommended to use RC4 with that specific protocol version 19:07 thexyz hmmmm: okay, what does this software do? 19:07 hmmmm i'm still downloading it myself so i'm not completely sure on all the details, but it allows you to MITM all SSL traffic, create bogus certificates, and so on 19:08 sfan5 derp 19:08 sfan5 I set Readme.txt file dl priority to high 19:08 sfan5 other files are already at 8% but... 19:08 thexyz well it obviously can only create self signed certificates so what's the problem? 19:09 * thexyz switches back to downloading chinese cartoons 19:09 hmmmm well, okay :p 19:09 hmmmm like i said, we'll see the full details soon hopefully 19:09 * sfan5 should really use ktorrent instead of transmission 19:10 thexyz I think this tool http://intercepter.nerf.ru/ can do more 19:10 thexyz SSH MiTM <3 19:10 sfan5 "Works on Windows NT(2K\XP\2k3\Vista\7\8)." no linux? 19:11 thexyz yeah, I think it's closed source 19:13 hoodedice So... 19:13 thexyz sfan5: no, wait, there is linux support, read blog 19:13 thexyz john_minetest: how do you compile movies? 19:14 hoodedice The last time I tried to make a game 19:14 sfan5 haha 19:14 hoodedice http://i.imgur.com/2zctYcA.png 19:14 Calinou illegal moviesù 19:14 Calinou ^ 19:14 Calinou same 19:14 hoodedice cmake movie 19:14 hoodedice Sorry 19:14 hoodedice sudo cmake movie 19:14 sfan5 cmake . -DMOVIE=1 19:15 PenguinDad and then make movie -j6 19:15 svuorela urgh. 19:15 svuorela do not build in source dir with cmake. 19:15 svuorela mkdir build; cd build ; cmake .. -DMOVIE=1 19:15 sfan5 ../configure --enable-movie 19:16 sfan5 john_minetest: nah, we don't want to clutter the source directory with compiled things 19:16 Calinou hacker conferences aka. people with tinted hair conferences 19:16 hmmmm in order for that 'interceptor' SSL MITM to work, you need to first do an ARP poisoning, DNS or over ICMP or DHCP attack 19:17 hoodedice Can i aske stupid question? hw do i leanr c+= 19:17 hoodedice ? 19:17 hmmmm dunno, maybe Locksmith does something similar 19:17 Calinou hoodedice: if that isn't sarcasm, usually you don't learn C++ as first language 19:17 sfan5 arp poisioning is easy with Scapy 19:17 Calinou there are tons of guides or books 19:17 sfan5 hoodedice: try C first 19:17 Calinou most C++ guides require to know C anyway 19:17 hoodedice okay 19:18 * andersje nods. 19:18 thexyz hmmmm: dunno, I'm not really good with that stuff 19:18 andersje yeah, start with lua or python for now. 19:18 andersje once you're coding stuff in that, you can break into the hairy stuff like C/C++ 19:18 hoodedice hmm k 19:19 kahrl I'd recommend starting with assembly 19:19 sfan5 ^ 19:19 PenguinDad :D 19:19 sfan5 hello world is easy (on linux) 19:19 hoodedice Indeed 19:20 hoodedice 01010100010101110 19:20 kahrl if you start with the high level languages you don't really get an idea what's going on 19:20 hoodedice hmm 19:21 andersje o_O 19:21 andersje the problem with assembly is that it takes you a damn long time to get anything done 19:21 andersje a lot of people lose interest before they've figured out how to get anything going. 19:21 andersje I've typically used perl/shell as a gateway drug to programming 19:22 andersje low-level stuff becomes more interesting when it solves a specific need. 19:22 kahrl it'll make you appreciate the syntactic sugar of high level languages 19:23 andersje i'm starting my kids programming with python and lua 19:23 hoodedice I don't think I can do this 19:23 hoodedice http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f3/Motorola_6800_Assembly_Language.png 19:23 hoodedice I'll start with lua 19:23 hoodedice I had a head-start anyway 19:23 andersje yeah, find a mod you like, add something to it. 19:23 hoodedice http://i.imgur.com/2zctYcA.png 19:23 hoodedice Modding right 19:23 hoodedice The art part gets me down 19:24 andersje there's all sorts of stuff you can do w/o art skills 19:24 andersje code different behaviors for stuff. like a block that moves on its own ;) 19:24 hoodedice =) 19:26 andersje you can start with little things...like altering existing recipes to work with different items 19:27 andersje or give different quantities 19:27 Peacock ugh, just tried to watch a norwegian horror "Cold Prey" (english) - best nap ever 19:33 hoodedice cool 19:33 hoodedice later 19:34 thexyz start with learning algorithms 19:34 thexyz learn the difference between o() and O() 19:35 thexyz and other fun stuff 19:35 thexyz then it won't matter what language you're writing in 19:37 Peacock there was a pull for that stuff, no need to get into again though :p 19:40 thefamilygrog66 Have you seen "Trollhunter" yet, Peacock? 19:40 Peacock !g Trollhunter 19:40 MinetestBot Peacock: http://www.trollhunterfilm.com/ 19:40 Peacock poop i wanted the imdb link lol 19:40 Peacock checking out 19:41 thefamilygrog66 http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1740707/ 19:41 thefamilygrog66 It's the only Norwegian flick I've watched recently 19:41 PenguinDad there should be !imdb 19:41 Peacock aside i saw (the) Emperor recently and loved that 19:42 Peacock trollhunter looks pretty bad (from the trailer) too much like a bad remake of cloverfield, which wasn't that good either :p 19:43 Calinou cloverfield: tripods are too mainstream 19:43 PenguinDad wow Currently online: 38 guests, 11 registered users 19:43 Peacock online on what? 19:44 PenguinDad Minetest Forum 19:44 PilzAdam sfan5, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=107599#p107599 thanks! I was searching for a black image for weeks now! 19:44 Peacock 4:1 unregistered users, not bad :p 19:45 thexyz PilzAdam: it's not exactly black 19:46 Peacock even on LED screen i cant see jack in that pic lol 19:46 thefamilygrog66 Peacock, it's a bit campy, but better than I thought it was going to be. Also, huge TROLLS! 19:46 sfan5 PilzAdam: its not block 19:46 sfan5 *black 19:46 Peacock well yeah thats why i say bad remake of cloverfield (or godzilla, even that sucked) 19:47 Peacock sfan's gots blocks on the brains :p 19:47 sfan5 you can even see the stone texture in the dark 19:47 Peacock sfan gimp up the brightness/contrast :-) 19:48 thefamilygrog66 Aside from being found footage involving huge monsters, it isn't like Cloverfield at all. But I understand if that's not your thing, too. 19:49 * Calinou can't see anything in light level 0 on his desktop 19:49 Calinou and I barely see at night :( 19:49 Peacock i am a bit picky with horrors yeah :p 19:49 PilzAdam sfan5, you used moreores in that screenshot 19:49 PilzAdam there is tin 19:50 thefamilygrog66 What are some of your faves, recent or otherwise, Peacock? 19:50 sfan5 s/moreores/technic_game/ 19:50 * Calinou dislikes horror movies 19:50 Peacock hmm, off the top of my head, favorite is Shining 19:50 thefamilygrog66 Tis a great one. 19:51 Peacock though it would probably suck without jack Nicholson 19:51 Peacock same goes for Batman (89) 19:51 thefamilygrog66 Yep. 19:52 PilzAdam sfan5, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=107615#p107615 19:52 Peacock oddly enough, i always found the villains in batman more interesting than batman himself lol 19:52 thefamilygrog66 Maybe because they always have cardboard actors playing the batman? 19:52 Peacock probably because too many actors played batman over the years 19:53 Peacock val kilmer was really bad lol 19:53 Peacock though nicholson's joker was way better than ledger's (the part killed him lol) 19:53 thefamilygrog66 Yeah, I find it funny people complaining about Affleck, given who's played him previously... 19:54 jojoa1997 is it possible to make an entity that has an animated texture 19:55 Peacock jojoa try splicing code from water textures to entities see if it works 19:55 PilzAdam Peacock, that doesnt work 19:55 Peacock maybe nodebox + animated texture use that for entity 19:55 PilzAdam jojoa1997, try changing the texture in on_step() 19:55 jojoa1997 thing is the water code uses special_textures while the entity uses texture 19:56 jojoa1997 oh ok 19:56 jojoa1997 wait no 19:56 jojoa1997 i want to use the texture setup like it is with regualr nodes(like water_animated.png) 19:57 kaeza [16:15:16] do not build in source dir with cmake. <--- +1 19:57 Peacock with entities you can do: textures = {"mod:nodename"}, 19:57 jojoa1997 but will it animate it 19:57 Peacock try it out, then youll know :P 19:58 dhbiker john_minetest: kernel ? 19:58 * Calinou never compiled a kernel 19:58 Calinou linux kernel, dhbiker 19:58 dhbiker i know 19:58 jojoa1997 animation={type="vertical_frames", aspect_w=16, aspect_h=16, length=0.8} 19:58 dhbiker i compile it too Calinou ... using gentoo 19:58 jojoa1997 oh wait nvm forget that question 19:58 Peacock simple experiment, make an entity using textures = {"default:water_source"}, see if its animated 19:59 PenguinDad PilzAdam: which texture pack? 19:59 dhbiker ah. 19:59 dhbiker what distro john_minetest ? 19:59 dhbiker meh 19:59 PilzAdam PenguinDad, hm? 20:00 Peacock more i read about gentoo the more i stayed away :P sounds like a pain 20:00 dhbiker john_minetest: it happens. don't give up. 20:00 * Calinou failed so hard installing arch linux 20:00 Peacock calinou try archbang, much simpler 20:00 dhbiker Peacock: it's not... it's nice actueally 20:00 Calinou noone uses that 20:00 dhbiker -e 20:00 Calinou I don't want to join an empty IRC channel for help 20:00 Calinou or not 20:00 Peacock archbang is arch with packages on top, like ubuntu is debian with more shit 20:00 Calinou else I would be able to install it 20:01 Calinou Peacock: ubuntu isn't supported in #debian, but they are big enough 20:01 PenguinDad PilzAdam: http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/350/DarkCave.png 20:01 Peacock its relative 20:01 Peacock if you dont mind using a debian deriv, then an arch deriv shouldn't be much different :p 20:01 PilzAdam PenguinDad, I think thats default, ask sfan5, its his screenshot 20:01 Evergreen andersje: Thank you for starring my trash can mod. :P 20:02 Calinou john_minetest: people there are quited bad iirc 20:02 Calinou -d 20:02 Peacock i prefer archbang cuz i get a working desktop/DE out of the box, though i dont use it anymore 20:02 Peacock switched to #1 20:02 Calinou but still, it's not stable and too hard for me 20:02 Peacock *#! 20:02 Calinou when I can install xubuntu in ~20 minutes by clicking a few buttons, why not do it 20:02 sfan5 umm 20:02 Peacock archbang takes about as long :P if not less 20:02 sfan5 where did the hentai gifs on http://mg.viewskew.com/ come from? 20:03 Peacock ab has a graphical installer, cant vouch for arch tho 20:03 jojoa1997 doesn work 20:04 PenguinDad sfan5: only nyan cat knows it 20:04 Peacock then go with pilzadam's idea 20:04 Calinou sfan5: ;-; 20:05 Peacock john_minetest i can get by with the terminal, but don't ask me to install a whole system with it lol 20:05 sfan5 Calinou: exactly 20:05 Calinou john_minetest> They hide that it is so easy to do it without one. 20:05 Calinou it isn't 20:05 Peacock if you have a free weekend 20:06 Calinou you need a free weekend to read the manual throughly 20:06 Calinou :P 20:06 Peacock well yeah i got other shit to do, like my wife, the job, etc. 20:06 Peacock :P 20:07 Peacock ive never had a problem with dualboot 20:07 Calinou I don't dualboot 20:07 Peacock i had to do some manual editing under arch, but thats the only exception 20:07 Calinou john_minetest: it is pretty tricky to do withhout X 20:08 Calinou if you're in virtualbox then it is easy of course 20:08 Calinou or have another PC at hand 20:08 Calinou cfdisk is insanely hard to use compared to gparted 20:08 Calinou on top of that it's MBR only 20:08 Calinou and they make you use a separate program for GPT 20:08 Peacock i'd think ubuntu would be the easiest for setting up dualboot, how does one screw that up? 20:09 Peacock AB's GUI installer isn't in a full desktop, its rather small resolution vga thing, but still, you find your way around 20:09 Peacock ext2? 20:09 PenguinDad ext2? 20:09 * Peacock looks shiftily 20:09 Calinou ext5 20:10 PenguinDad Btrfs :P 20:10 Peacock i can understand ext3, even though i use ext4 lol 20:10 Calinou it's 2013, not using an hardware driver is not acceptable, Peacock 20:10 Calinou console looks uglier 20:10 Calinou it doens't look like that when you install, sadly :P 20:10 Peacock "my wife left me for a man running proprietary software, so i permabanned her from IRL" - Hans Reiser :p 20:12 Peacock well if the guy couldn't be bothered to get rid of books detailing how to commit murder, i wouldn't trust his filesystem either :p 20:12 jojoa1997 how woul;d i change the texture on_step 20:13 Calinou ext4 is standard 20:13 Peacock cd /home/princess/pron *wrong keyboard* :P 20:13 thexyz john_minetest: w-w-wait, you're not using GPT in 2013? 20:14 thexyz Calinou: sadly, ntfs is standard 20:14 thexyz or what do they have now 20:14 dhbiker thexyz: MBR 20:14 thexyz john_minetest: partition table 20:14 thexyz dhbiker: GPT 20:15 dhbiker don't they use MBR still in windows 8 = 20:15 dhbiker ? 20:15 thexyz I have no idea 20:15 dhbiker i *think* they still do 20:15 thexyz also, why did you reply to me with MBR? 20:15 Calinou they use GPT on preinstalls 20:15 Calinou you need to use GPT for UEFI 20:15 dhbiker ah. 20:15 Calinou MBR only allows 4 primary partitions ,can't align 20:15 PenguinDad I think UEFI requires GPT 20:15 Calinou have fun using it on a SSD 20:15 dhbiker haha 20:16 Peacock thank god i havent had to put up with uefi yet, slashdot articles and all lol 20:16 Peacock sounds like a pita 20:17 thexyz Calinou: wait, what's the problem with ssd and mbr? https://gist.github.com/xyzz/d2d1977369d878b9cf35 20:18 Peacock 40gb? 20:18 Peacock where was it made, Mesopotamia? :p 20:18 Peacock im just kidding :P ive had much worse 20:18 Calinou well, gparted doesn't propose aligning with MBR 20:19 Calinou still, MBR is a 20 year old thing 20:19 Peacock very 1st computer: http://www.technology-props.co.uk/images/toshiba_3100e.jpg 20:19 Calinou GPT is much more modern, so why not use it 20:19 FreeFull john_minetest: I thought reiserfs wasn't maintained much since the whole thing that happened with reiser 20:19 FreeFull Also, I read that it was prone to fragmentation and corruption, although I might be misremembering 20:19 Calinou it's modern 20:20 FreeFull August 25th 1991 was when Linus talked about it on Usenet 20:20 thexyz john_minetest: I have 7 partitions 20:20 FreeFull john_minetest: So it's more of a 22 year old thing now 20:20 * Calinou has 3 partitions 20:20 Calinou 22 years old now, yes 20:20 Peacock 22 yrs, the computer or the user? 20:20 andersje 7 partitions? are you using LVM? 20:21 * andersje nods. 20:21 thexyz required-by-uefi-7mb-dummy partition, /boot, swap, /var, /usr/portage, /tmp, /home 20:21 andersje back when I was running RS/6000s with 300mb disks...I needed to partition to keep bad things from happening. 20:21 andersje now I get by with simpler schemes 20:21 thexyz (/ is on SSD) 20:21 andersje separate /var is always good for servers 20:22 sfan5 this looks surprisingly good! https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/minetest-icon2-2048x2048.png 20:22 FreeFull I have everything on a single / 20:22 thexyz it's just good in general 20:22 Calinou 7MB? wasn't it 250MB? 20:22 thexyz since my root is on ssd, I don't want /var and /usr/portage to be here 20:22 Calinou I don't boot on UEFI mode anyhway 20:22 Calinou FreeFull: having a separate /home makes it way easier to reinstall a distro 20:23 thexyz Calinou: I think it can be any size down to 1MB or something 20:23 FreeFull thexyz: Or the swap partition 20:23 Calinou sfan5: brace yourselves, flat design! 20:23 thexyz that's just for grub 20:23 FreeFull Calinou: I managed to reinstall without a separate /home 20:23 thexyz I think I don't need it now 20:23 FreeFull What I did is delete everything but /home and then install normally 20:23 andersje though, tbh, my primary server doesn't have a separate /var anymore 20:23 sfan5 :D 20:23 andersje http://pastebin.com/4745PQTb 20:23 Calinou how did you draw it? 20:23 andersje that's because it runs VMs which run all the services. 20:24 andersje so the SMTP server will only ever crash itself. ditto with the webserver 20:25 Peacock i only partition for /, /home and /tmp lol 20:26 sfan5 Calinou: I used inkscape and set the border colors of the individual objects to their main color 20:26 andersje who, me? 20:26 andersje nah, didn't need it. 20:26 sfan5 Calinou: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/minetest-icon2.svg 20:27 Peacock boot doesnt really need a seperate partition? 20:27 Peacock i mean i keep the boot flag on / 20:27 Peacock and boot is in / 20:28 Peacock i read somewhere that i needed a seperate boot partition for some case, but i dont remember either of the details :/ 20:28 Calinou /boot is in a separate partition for the same reason people put 1 water source for 1 farmland block on Minecraft 20:29 Calinou while you can have 1 water source for 80 farmland blocks 20:30 * sfan5 never had a seperate /boot 20:30 andersje nah, /boot does not need to be separate. 20:30 andersje for the most part 20:30 Peacock i think it had something to do with either windows or uefi 20:30 andersje Peacock: giant disks is one of those reasons 20:30 Peacock or grub2? 20:30 andersje there used to be limitations to lilo, that it couldn't see certain huge drives 20:31 Calinou GPT is needed for 3 or 4TB disks if you want to use a partition larger than 2.2TB 20:31 andersje long ago, it couldn't see raid'd drives 20:31 Peacock well the p4 with 1tb disk runs fine without /boot partition 20:31 Calinou lol, I always used grub 2 20:31 * andersje nods 20:31 Calinou but I hide it anyway 20:31 Calinou faster boot 20:31 andersje the machine I posted the link to is an i7-2600, with > 4tb of disk attached. 20:31 andersje but / is < 150gb 20:31 Peacock grub2 is faster, but i was so used to configuring grub1 that i never bothered lol 20:33 Calinou probably faster 20:33 Peacock wouldn't know, i try to avoid the more obscure stuff since the mainstream stuff is buggy enough at times lol 20:33 Calinou it's not like 0.5 seconds matter to you 20:33 * Calinou boots in 21s POST included 20:33 dhbiker that slow ? :P 20:34 Peacock i boot in less than 10 seconds on both new and old p4 20:34 Calinou slow? 20:34 Calinou that's because I have an actual mobo 20:34 Calinou not a castrated laptop mobo 20:35 Calinou dhbiker: 21s is the moment I press button to login screen 20:35 dhbiker my post is long ffs 20:35 iqualfragile my post is fucking long 20:35 ShadowNinja Calinou: I know someone who has a server that boots in 1.5s. 20:35 iqualfragile but afterwards i need 6 secs 20:35 dhbiker Calinou: i was joking :D 20:35 Calinou some server mobos take 15 minutes to boot 20:35 dhbiker iqualfragile: same here :| 20:35 iqualfragile from grub to login-screen 20:35 Calinou or, well, several minutes 20:35 Calinou john_minetest: lightdm is great 20:35 bas080 is it possible to confine a nodbox texture to one nodebox? https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/screenshot_3159732597.png 20:35 Calinou simple and pretty 20:35 iqualfragile kdm :D 20:35 ShadowNinja bas080: No. 20:35 dhbiker ligtdm! 20:35 bas080 :( 20:35 Calinou another reason why I don't use arch 20:35 Calinou I have to set up such stuff _by hand_ 20:35 bas080 thnx ShadowNinja! 20:36 ShadowNinja YW. 20:36 dhbiker what do you use Calinou ? 20:36 Peacock one reason i dont use ubuntu: i have to remove so much crap by hand, see, relative :p 20:36 iqualfragile Calinou: wtf? no, you dont 20:36 iqualfragile it quite much works out of the box most times 20:36 ShadowNinja Although RBA said it would be easy to add after 6d facedir. 20:37 Calinou xubuntu 13.04 20:37 dhbiker john_minetest: gentoo setup is easy as pie... it just needs time :P 20:37 Calinou I do remove a decent amount of software, yes 20:37 dhbiker which you can get easily john_minetest 20:37 Calinou ristretto, gmusicbrowser, abiword, gnumeric all go away for clementine/eog/libreoffice 20:37 Peacock well id rather add a few bits of software than remove a metric shitton of it :P 20:38 Calinou it takes like 1 minute to remove them 20:38 dhbiker you still have all the crap compiled in packages Calinou 20:38 Calinou cool story 20:38 Calinou I'm saving poweer 20:38 Calinou -e 20:39 dhbiker john_minetest: Gentoo is not for beginners xD 20:39 Peacock either way i prefer #! to ubu. 20:39 dhbiker yeah 20:40 dhbiker and they are moving to systemd 20:40 dhbiker ew. 20:40 dhbiker and it's buggy at times 20:41 andersje yeah, I like init, too 20:41 andersje beats the old /etc/rc.local method 20:41 sfan5 apparently ray8888 decided to blank out some of his topics 20:41 Peacock my main beef with arch is they push too many changes without checking, and dont update docs enough lately 20:42 Calinou systemd is more modern 20:42 andersje tbh, these days, I run debian or ubuntu LTS. Then I just throw more hardware at it if it's not fast enough 20:42 Calinou so is upstart :P 20:43 Calinou LTS, meh 20:43 Calinou you end up with 2 year old software 20:43 Calinou john_minetest: vista IS better than xp 20:43 Calinou xp is full of security flaws 20:43 Calinou it's just general hatred for half of the microsoft OSes 20:43 Calinou like, windows 8 20:43 Calinou and was ugly 20:44 andersje XP was better than 9x. 20:44 andersje Vista was only launched because they couldn't make Longhorn work right 20:44 Peacock XP, 7 > vista, 8 20:44 andersje so they had to reimplement a ton of shit. 20:44 andersje win8 is win7.1 20:44 andersje with a tablet interface 20:45 Calinou use classicshell 20:45 Peacock its the rule of microsoft, every other version has the suck the sweat of a dead man's balls 20:45 Peacock *has to 20:45 Calinou dead people don't sweat... 20:45 Peacock exactly, its gotta suck pretty hard 20:46 Peacock for gaming i quite like win7, even wolfenstein plays better than it does on linux now 20:47 Peacock on linux : no sound 20:47 Peacock and if i get sound to work, punkbuster kicks me 20:48 Peacock as opposed to apt-get install xfce4 xfce4-goodies ? 20:48 Calinou yes, and pacman -S xfce lacks pavucontrol and that stuff 20:48 Calinou and lightdm 20:48 Calinou and... X 20:48 Calinou Peacock: WET sucks on linux 20:48 Peacock pacman lacks alot of shit without an aur helper 20:48 Calinou punkbuster sucks even more 20:49 Calinou it can send screenshots of your game by request of admins 20:49 Calinou it's very privacy invading :P 20:49 Peacock meh, for playing wolfenstein i dont mind 20:49 Peacock by now its only old-timers like me who still play it 20:49 Calinou yeah, it's dead 20:49 Peacock much better than the annoying kids that hang on newer games 20:50 Peacock heck id rather play against bots than kids 20:50 Calinou heh 20:50 Peacock bots are more dynamic 20:50 dhbiker WOLFENSTEIN !!! :D 20:50 PenguinDad Not in Germany!!! 20:50 dhbiker Your Problem!!! 20:51 Peacock meh, that was 60 years ago 20:51 Peacock most war games are based off *some* history 20:51 Peacock or they're based on predicted future conflicts 20:52 Peacock in one of the battlefields they have you fighting the chinese i think 20:52 Peacock or the a-rabs 20:52 PilzAdam the Chinese army is in Battlefield 2 and will be in 4 20:53 Peacock yeah so i dont see why games based on historical wars should be any different, so long as you keep in mind the game itself is fiction 20:53 Peacock the only trouble comes when dumbass kids start getting overly patriotic over a stupid game lol 20:54 Peacock (usually because they got their asses handed to them) 20:55 PenguinDad I found this game, called Minetest. It's based on Minecraft but has one thing that I like: an easy mod-system! So here's the plan: let's build a mod for Minetest! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9KbgzsoZeE&list=PLOPOrFGdo6wi9bH9b9N5FBjO0JvRrb3jC 20:55 PenguinDad ^ lol 20:55 Calinou plol* 20:57 Peacock there are a shitton of games and movies based on a soviet/american war lol 20:58 Peacock the latest Red Dawned had to be edited so the "other guy" was the NK rather than chienese lol 20:58 Peacock *Red Dawn 20:58 VanessaE ShadowNinja: is there some particular reason all of technic's branches, except master, are remote-only and untracked? 21:01 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Hmmm? I don't know much about those parts of git. 21:02 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~/Minetest-related/mods/RBAs_mods/technic$ git branch --list --all 21:02 VanessaE * master 21:02 VanessaE [...] 21:02 VanessaE remotes/origin/rewrite 21:02 Jordach back 21:02 VanessaE wb. 21:02 * Jordach has been playing Saints Row 4 21:02 Peacock lol 21:02 kaeza lel 21:02 VanessaE thy bot ist a might slow :) 21:02 PenguinDad xD 21:03 Peacock youd think the bot would be smart enough bot to kick ops 21:03 PilzAdam VanessaE, checkout the branches, then git creates a local branch (bascially a "copy" of the remote branch) 21:03 Peacock *not to 21:03 Jordach holy shit: it's one of my mods 1st birthdays 21:03 VanessaE anyhow, I had to `git checkout --track remotes/origin/rewrite` to get the rewrite branch, even after a fresh clone. 21:03 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=39728#p39728 <- happy birthday 21:03 * Peacock buys hookers and blow for jordach's mod 21:03 VanessaE PilzAdam: yep, already figured it out. it just confused me is all. 21:03 Jordach plol 21:03 PilzAdam VanessaE, e.g. git checkout rewrite 21:04 VanessaE right. 21:04 PilzAdam it would be totally annyoing if you add a new remote and it would directly create local copies of all branches 21:04 VanessaE anyways, I have it, but Dan warns that it's "full of bugs" 21:04 PilzAdam and it would of course conflict in names and stuff 21:06 VanessaE I'm just not used to dealing with remote-only branches is all. 21:07 PilzAdam the only thing that you can do with remote branches is check them out 21:15 OldCoder Hi 21:15 OldCoder john_minetest, my worlds are back 21:16 OldCoder I need to check for damage 21:16 OldCoder But 21:16 OldCoder Should stay up most of the time and I will update the engine 21:16 OldCoder There is another possibility; Kaeza and others are proposing that I revive Minebest (which was interrupted due to IRL issues) and that we proceed to merge LevelDB there 21:17 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Yes, unfourtunately my server with the highest upteme isn't very powerfull. 21:17 OldCoder john_minetest, Indicate if you can connect to my worlds or not; and if you see damage 21:18 PenguinDad LevelDB in default minetest would be great :) 21:19 VanessaE OldCoder: have you heard? I have two servers now :-) 21:19 OldCoder VanessaE, john_minetest O.K. 21:19 OldCoder VanessaE, I had not heard. Good luck with them. 21:19 VanessaE seems to work fairly well save for the usual mapgen lag due to big mods like moretrees. 21:22 VanessaE that would help. 21:29 Jordach hello OldCoder 21:43 thefamilygrog66 I must go now - bring me the head of Steve. 21:43 thefamilygrog66 hahaha 21:43 thefamilygrog66 http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9898/27n6.png 21:48 OldCoder Jordach, hi 21:50 bas080 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z54-QHEZN6E 21:50 bas080 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=107636#p107636 21:51 PenguinDad !title 21:51 MinetestBot PenguinDad: [Mod] Inbox [1] [inbox] (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums 21:52 bas080 PenguinDad, can it also give back the title of a youtube video? 21:52 bas080 it = MinetstBot 21:52 PenguinDad !title http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z54-QHEZN6E 21:52 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Return to Sender- Elvis Presley - YouTube 21:53 PenguinDad ^ bas080 yes 21:53 bas080 ok. good to know! 22:10 Jordach ShadowNinja: technic bug 22:11 Jordach coal generators don't produce power on LV 22:12 OldCoder Repeating announcement (will do so a few times over the next week): 1. My Minetest worlds are back. 2. Report damage to worlds if any. 3. I will update engine after some issues are worked out. kaeza See me when you can. 22:16 thexyz lol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=107631#p107631 22:17 thexyz fuck those people who blank their posts 22:18 PenguinDad thexyz: ray8888? 22:18 jin_xi huh? what? you deleted it? i get bad link 22:19 thexyz yeah 22:19 thexyz > minetest sucks with the people and they all can go to hell that why my server is off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fuck you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 22:19 thexyz jin_xi: see ^ 22:19 * Jordach was going to quote that 22:19 kaeza huh? 22:20 VanessaE what server 22:20 VanessaE ? 22:20 VanessaE remobo? 22:20 PenguinDad ray's server 22:20 VanessaE what a dick. 22:24 PilzAdam yay! 1 non-voxel node less in Pilztest! 22:25 PilzAdam it now has a lamp instead of a torch 22:25 Jordach haha 22:25 Jordach source or bullshit 22:26 PenguinDad Jordach: https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest 22:26 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest/commit/7a5873d27f53cbb61e7a181477100cfb9cb15755 22:27 jin_xi lol @ voxel-node 22:27 jin_xi you like pixel-sprites? 22:41 Jordach yes, fuck yes 22:41 thexyz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdmsRcsl_xA 22:41 * Jordach found mese on the technic server 22:43 thexyz !title 22:43 MinetestBot thexyz: This is.. Japan World Cup 3 - YouTube 22:46 Jordach \o/ i just found one of blockmen's mines 22:47 Jordach (the mod, not blockmen's server mine) 22:48 Peacock cause a cavein :P 22:48 Jordach just did with gravel 22:49 Peacock gravel doesn't count :P 22:49 Peacock we need a real cavein mod when the space between Y's gets too big 22:49 Peacock (w/o supports) 22:50 thexyz https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=107642#p107642 22:52 PenguinDad lol 22:54 Peacock minetest for DS lol 22:55 Peacock (id find if cooler to get MT to work on old/obscure platforms lol) 22:55 PenguinDad what about minetest for these hackable toilets :D 22:59 PenguinDad !up aviactu.info 27963 22:59 MinetestBot aviactu.info:27963 is up (389ms) 23:11 Jordach thexyz: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=107634#p107634 23:21 Jordach ShadowNinja: LV water mill isn't generating electricity 23:21 Jordach the buffer stays at 0 yet it's production is 100%