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00:48 Miner_48er what's the average amount of errors?
00:49 NekoGloop the average amount of errors is 9001
00:50 Miner_48er ok getting about a 1/3 of that
00:50 Miner_48er the real answer for a server is?
00:53 PilzAdam fishy day is over
00:53 PilzAdam !op
00:53 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Today: Search MinetestBot
00:53 PilzAdam !deop
01:01 * NekoGloop frisks MinetestBot
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01:32 ShadowBot :-)
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01:58 PilzAdam bye
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02:19 john_minetest hi OldCoder
02:21 OldCoder john_minetest, Hi!
02:21 john_minetest Lol, it is 4 in the morning in germany but I'm in ecuador (GMT/UTC -7).
02:22 john_minetest And I am correcting deprecated stuff on the wiki...
02:23 john_minetest *Middle european summer time -7 so UTC/GMT -5
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02:32 SegFault22 Is there anyone online?
02:34 Tesseract SegFault22: Only a hundred or so...
02:34 Tesseract (Available is a different story...)
02:35 SegFault22 Good. I have an issue to discuss regarding forum moderators and an edit to one of my topics, that I see as unjust.
02:37 khonkhortisan I don't use forums.
02:37 khonkhortisan they're a cross between a wiki and irc
02:38 SegFault22 Just thought that I could get a reply and have action taken if I discuss it here, as on the forums the moderators would likely ban me fro such a discussion.
02:38 SegFault22 for*
02:41 SegFault22 The issue is that a forum moderator edited one of my topic posts for my mod. I had condensed information of the mod into [spoiler] and [/spoiler] tabs, so that the information could be accessed easily. the Moderator proceeded to remove the organization, and reply saying ''do not abuse spoilers''. However, on the forum rules page, there is no such a rule doccumented.
02:45 Tesseract If it was a short topic the spoilers were unnecessary, but I don't thing that means a mod has to edit it.
02:47 SegFault22 It is now a pretty long topic, and was kinda long from the start. With the spoilers condensing information into tabs, it was less than a page long, but users could still access information. Now it is a mess.
02:50 SegFault22 I would like two things to be done because of this: 1, I want to get assured/authorized to edit the post and re-sort it into spoilers, and 2. I want the Moderators to be re-assured that they don't have absolute power, and may not, for example, edit anyone's post for any reason they feel like is enough reason to take that action.
02:52 SegFault22 There have been many occurences of this, where moderators act like they have absolute power and do whatever they want, which I and many others see as unjust.
02:53 Tesseract Perhaps you should ask the moderator in question why they did it.
02:55 SegFault22 The moderator posted a reply stating ''Do not abuse the spolier tag - it is not meant for hiding stuff like license terms, to-do, etc.  It is meant for hiding stuff people should otherwise need to discover by using the mod.'' I do not want to ask the moderator, as the moderator might ban me for ''being against their ruling and actions'' or something.
02:56 SegFault22 I also think that the Rules page should be eddited to include rules that Moderators must follow, to keep them from thinking they have ''absolute power'' and vandalizing people's posts for whatever reason.
02:56 Tesseract The full text of license terms should only be linked.
02:56 SegFault22 ?
02:57 Tesseract You only become a moderator if you are well trusted.
02:59 SegFault22 True... but they are still taking action and editing posts/banning people for trivial and/or whatever-they-think-of reasons.
03:04 SegFault22 How can I contact Celeron55 or another administrator, to get action to be taken to stop this?
03:05 Tesseract SegFault22: /msg celeron55/the|xyz/etc. If you want to continue with it...
03:06 SegFault22 I see. thank you.
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03:24 SegFault22 Anyone remember bcnjr5 and his server?...
03:26 SegFault22 nevermind. I must be leaving now.
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03:39 Miner_48er anyone use node ownership
03:39 Tesseract Miner_48er: Yes, but I would recommend my areas mod.
03:39 Miner_48er advantages?
03:40 Miner_48er link?
03:40 Tesseract It is much easier to use, supports names, does about one fourth of the proccessing per-node, supports /protect...
03:41 Tesseract shadowninja.minetest.net/areas.tgz
03:42 Tesseract Most importantly it allows admins to interact without needing their own subarea.
03:42 Miner_48er ok what format is that file in>
03:43 Tesseract gziped tar.
03:43 Miner_48er ok
03:43 Tesseract Need a .zip?
03:44 Miner_48er no I extracted it twice
03:44 Miner_48er what servers have this installed?
03:46 Miner_48er you've tested this?
03:46 Tesseract Mine, not sure about others, but redcrab planned to install it when he was around...
03:46 Tesseract Yes.
03:46 Miner_48er reliable?
03:46 Tesseract My server is latest git, so no guarantees for old servers. But it is stable.
03:47 Miner_48er should be reliable on 4.7
03:48 Tesseract And if there are issues I will fix them quickly.
03:53 Miner_48er could you make a zip file?
03:54 * Tesseract tries.
03:57 * Tesseract might go offline soon...
04:01 Tesseract Miner_48er: same url, but .zip.
04:02 Miner_48er ok thx hwlping somone make a server without much software
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04:09 * sdzen finally figured out how to run a mumble server
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04:24 Miner_48er how to disable bones?
04:25 Tesseract rm -r mods/bones (unless it is included in world.mt)
04:26 Miner_48er already created work
04:28 Miner_48er no bones currently in it so safe to remove?
04:28 Tesseract Yes, it should be safe to remove, and the server will tell you if there is an issue.
04:29 Miner_48er ok
04:33 Miner_48er disable fire?
04:34 Tesseract disable_fire = true in minetest.conf
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05:33 khonkhortisan it will tell you there's an issue if you come across bones
06:06 thexyz VanessaE: please don't vandalize peoples' posts https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104763#p104763; [spoiler] tag is meant for hiding stuff, and spoilers
06:08 kahrl has anyone had a water bucket replace the node pointed at, when emptied?
06:08 kahrl using fast_move I managed to do that three times now, but I can't do it reliably
06:09 kahrl those were dirt_with_grass nodes and yes, my minetest_game has commit 68020d2
06:23 thexyz kahrl: some people on my server managed to replace chests with other nodes
06:25 thexyz I think I solved the issue by setting `buildable_to` to false for :ignore
06:25 thexyz I'm not sure why `true` is here
06:27 kahrl nodedef tells why: // A way to remove accidental CONTENT_IGNOREs
06:27 kahrl but there are other to do that than place nodes
06:27 kahrl other ways*
06:29 thexyz no, I don't get how could there be "accidental CONTENT_IGNOREs"
06:31 kahrl there used to be a whole box of them on gameboom's server when I played there
06:32 thexyz hm.. I've never seen one
06:33 thexyz wait, do they look like a detached player hand?
06:34 kahrl they should look like air
06:35 thexyz oh, well
06:38 sfan5 mornin' everyone
06:41 kahrl hi sfan5
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07:33 * VanessaE grumbles at thexyz
07:33 VanessaE I will NOT be called a vandal.
07:34 VanessaE "A spoiler is an element of a disseminated summary or description of any piece of fiction that reveals any plot elements which threaten to give away important details concerning the turn of events of a dramatic episode."
07:37 VanessaE if you wanted to add a tag that's meant for simply collapsing elements in the page, then add one.  Don't repurpose and redefine "spoiler".
07:41 VanessaE I just got in a big fight with a fuel sender assembly and my hands are torn all to hell from cut sheet metal, so I'm a little crabby right now.
07:41 VanessaE (I won the fight)
07:42 VanessaE (yes, at 3+ am I was working on my car)
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07:44 VanessaE not to mention I'm starving my ass off and thirsty as the desert, but I can't partake because I have a doctor's appointment in about 3 hours (fasting)
07:44 VanessaE hi taoki.
07:44 Taoki hi
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07:47 thexyz VanessaE: yes! I wanted "a tag that's meant for simply collapsing elements in the page"
07:48 thexyz this is called spoiler, welcome to the internet
07:48 thexyz this is how everyone uses them!
07:50 VanessaE um
07:50 VanessaE no, it's not.
07:50 thexyz no, no, not all sites that have [spoiler] tags are about movies
07:51 thexyz or "any piece of fiction"
07:51 thexyz so this quote is invalid
07:51 VanessaE whether "everyone" uses them that way or not, a spoiler is not supposed to be used to just collapse page elements, it's supposed to be used to HIDE stuff that users aren't supposed to see
07:51 thexyz anyway, please treat spoiler as an element "to be used to just collapse page elements"
07:51 thexyz at Minetest forums
07:51 * VanessaE shrugs
07:51 thexyz because I added it exactly for that purpose
07:51 VanessaE whatever
07:52 thexyz thanks for understanding
07:52 VanessaE when I last checked, things like the license, download links, etc were supposed to be clearly visible.
07:54 thexyz I agree that license should be clearly visible
07:55 thexyz but changelog or todo can be hidden under a [spoiler] tag, there's nothing wrong with it
07:56 thexyz do you agree with that?
07:57 VanessaE fine
07:57 VanessaE this needs to be spelled out in the forum rules then.
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07:58 VanessaE for every post one of us has to correct, someone else is gonna bitch that it was fixed. "wrong"
07:58 VanessaE -.
07:59 thexyz what's this "has to correct" stuff?
08:00 VanessaE I've already had to undo shit like [spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler][spoiler]some four or five word phrase here[/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler][/spoiler] etc..
08:00 VanessaE (except the last one was buried about 3 or 4x farther down)
08:01 VanessaE idc who someone is, THAT is abuse.
08:02 thexyz hm
08:02 thexyz that is
08:02 thexyz but putting todo list under a [spoiler] tag is not
08:02 VanessaE perhaps not - as long as it's only one level deep.
08:04 thexyz also, who did that?
08:04 VanessaE I think HybridDog did, I forget now
08:04 thexyz we probably should add this to the rules
08:04 thexyz and then just ban guys who do that
08:06 VanessaE a ban is a little extreme I think
08:06 thexyz Misuse of forum tags is disallowed. Moderators are to decide what is considered "misuse".
08:06 thexyz just for an hour or two
08:06 thexyz or a day
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08:28 VanessaE bbl
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08:45 kaeza mornings
08:46 * Calinou puts a pony on kaeza's head
08:50 * kaeza puts nouveau on Calinou's head
08:50 PenguinDad howdy
08:51 kaeza hey PenguinDad
08:58 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Soyuz TM-25 landing day!
09:00 thexyz sfan5: you should implement "!today" command for MinetestBot
09:01 sfan5 oh lol
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09:02 PenguinDad MinetestBot is back \o/
09:03 sfan5 !op
09:03 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Today: Bring flowers for MinetestBot
09:04 sfan5 !deop
09:04 sfan5 !voice PenguinDad
09:05 * kaeza puts a moonflower on MinetestBot's head
09:08 kaeza !up 10.0.0.3
09:08 MinetestBot 10.0.0.3:30000 seems to be down
09:08 * MinetestBot plants kaeza's moonflower in the Minetest garden
09:08 sfan5 kaeza: 10.x.x.x are local ips
09:08 kaeza IK
09:09 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105475#p105475
09:09 * PenguinDad puts a Taraxacum on MinetestBot's head
09:09 Calinou "MineTest." :(
09:10 * MinetestBot plants PenguinDad's Taraxacum in the Minetest garden
09:10 thexyz lol
09:10 thexyz users.append([l[idx].firstChild.firstChild.data,l[idx+1].firstChild.data,l[idx+2].firstChild.data,l[idx+3].firstChild.data,l[idx].firstChild.getAttribute("href").split("=")[1]])
09:11 * sfan5 throws a kitten at Calinou
09:11 kaeza thexyz, O_O
09:12 * Calinou drinks kaeza's berserk potion
09:12 thexyz !sfu PilzAdam
09:12 MinetestBot PilzAdam Developer 3,147 posts, registered on 2012-07-20 | id: 2443
09:12 thexyz hm, odd
09:13 * sfan5 just got an idea
09:13 sfan5 need to add a special color for Devs
09:14 Calinou color for what?
09:14 thexyz i wonder why does this work
09:14 sfan5 Calinou: try /msg MinetestBot !sfu celeron*
09:15 Calinou that'll highlight him :/
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09:16 sfan5 test
09:16 Calinou ificate
09:17 sfan5 ^Wion
09:19 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload forumutils.py
09:19 MinetestBot sfan5: forumutils.py: no such module!
09:19 sfan5 !op
09:19 sfan5 !sfu PilzAdam
09:19 MinetestBot PilzAdam Developer 3,147 posts, registered on 2012-07-20 | id: 2443
09:19 sfan5 ?
09:19 kaeza bold
09:19 sfan5 !deop
09:20 sfan5 derp
09:20 thexyz !sfu a
09:20 MinetestBot thexyz: No Results found
09:21 sfan5 !op
09:21 sfan5 !sfu PilzAdam
09:21 MinetestBot PilzAdam Developer 3,147 posts, registered on 2012-07-20 | id: 2443
09:21 sfan5 why won't the colors work?
09:21 sfan5 they work in query but not in the channel
09:24 jin_xi !derp
09:25 MinetestBot jin_xi: Sorry, I am currently unable to derp for you
09:25 * sfan5 hides
09:26 thexyz !regex
09:26 thexyz no?
09:27 thexyz !re a b
09:27 MinetestBot IndexError: tuple index out of range (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/rutils.py", line 227, in <genexpr>)
09:27 thexyz lel
09:27 thexyz !re a
09:27 MinetestBot thexyz: Give me a regex and a message seperated by `
09:28 thexyz !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000                 HOR
09:29 thexyz BYE
09:30 thexyz !derp
09:30 thexyz !sfu a
09:31 thexyz well i didn't like it much anyway
09:31 sfan5 um
09:31 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000                 HOR
09:31 sfan5 MinetestBot!
09:31 sfan5 god damnit
09:31 sfan5 thats my vps again
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09:32 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000                 HOR
09:32 sfan5 MinetestBot!
09:33 sfan5 sigh
09:33 sfan5 MinetestBot!
09:33 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000                 HOR
09:33 thexyz kekeke
09:33 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000                 HOR
09:33 sfan5 MinetestBot1
09:33 thexyz it's dead
09:33 sfan5 MinetestBot!
09:33 sfan5 seems so7
09:33 thexyz forget about it
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09:35 sfan5 MinetestBot!
09:35 MinetestBot sfan5!
09:35 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000                 HOR
09:35 sfan5 ah, that regex keeps minetestBot busy
09:35 sfan5 using 100% right now
09:35 sfan5 +cpu
09:36 thexyz that was the point
09:36 thexyz sometimes i just look for the most obvious security hole in your bot's source code and then use it
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09:42 PenguinDad hi iqualfragile
09:43 iqualfragile hi PenguinDad
09:43 iqualfragile hi everybody
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09:53 mirda hello, moreblocks:iron_stone_bricks have broken recipe, it shows unknown item for stone brick in crafting guide (unified_inventory) and cannot be crafted, i am trying it on landrush server
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09:58 sfan5 MinetestBot!
09:58 MinetestBot sfan5!
09:58 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000                 HOR
09:58 MinetestBot NameError: global name 'time' is not defined (file "/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rutils.py", line 232, in regex)
09:58 sfan5 lawl
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09:58 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rutils
09:58 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'rutils' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rutils.py'> (version: 2013-08-14 09:58:40)
09:58 sfan5 !re (\w+)\*([\w\s]+)*/$`COPRO*HORIZON 2000                 HOR
09:58 MinetestBot sfan5: Regex took to long to compute
09:58 sfan5 ^ thexyz
10:02 sfan5 !re ([0-9]+)(\s+([a-zA-Z0-9_$]+))*`123 foo bar _z $$$ lawl 0lol9
10:02 MinetestBot true groups=[False]
10:02 sfan5 derp
10:03 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rutils
10:03 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'rutils' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rutils.py'> (version: 2013-08-14 10:02:54)
10:03 sfan5 !re ([0-9]+)(\s+([a-zA-Z0-9_$]+))*`123 foo bar _z $$$ lawl 0lol9
10:03 MinetestBot false
10:04 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rutils
10:04 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'rutils' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rutils.py'> (version: 2013-08-14 10:04:15)
10:04 sfan5 !re ([0-9]+)(\s+([a-zA-Z0-9_$]+))*`123 foo bar _z $$$ lawl 0lol9
10:04 MinetestBot false
10:04 sfan5 I should probably stop spamming
10:06 PenguinDad regex spam :D
10:07 jin_xi spam?
10:08 sfan5 spam and bacon
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10:46 thexyz !rand 6 1
10:46 MinetestBot ValueError: empty range for randrange() (6,2, -4) (file "/usr/lib/python2.7/random.py", line 217, in randrange)
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10:46 hoodedice So...
10:52 FreeFull !rand 1 6
10:52 MinetestBot 2
10:52 PenguinDad !rand 1 12
10:52 MinetestBot 12
10:53 DanDuncombe !rand 1 1200000
10:53 MinetestBot 1093102
10:53 thexyz http://minetest.ru:8005/
10:53 thexyz !title
10:54 thexyz !rand 1 10
10:54 MinetestBot 9
10:54 thexyz !title
10:56 PenguinDad !rand 1 2
10:56 MinetestBot 1
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10:57 thexyz http://minetest.net/
10:57 thexyz !title
10:57 MinetestBot thexyz: Minetest
10:57 thexyz strange
10:57 MinetestBot thexyz: No title found
10:57 MinetestBot thexyz: No title found
10:57 thexyz it's threaded, no fun
10:58 sfan5 hehe
10:58 PenguinDad thexyz: my firefox says "Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at minetest.ru:8005"
10:58 sfan5 !rand 1 1
10:58 MinetestBot 1
10:58 thexyz http://minetest.ru:8005/
10:58 DanDuncombe What do you think, compared to default? (WIP, haven't actually tried it yet)  http://www.mediafire.com/?odolq0f2kfc3dit
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11:00 thexyz wait, that's not fun, i have too much privs
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11:01 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:01 sfan5 hi PilzAdam
11:02 PenguinDad Hi PA
11:02 DanDuncombe Oh
11:02 DanDuncombe God
11:02 DanDuncombe MushroomMan is here!
11:02 sfan5 </badjoke>
11:02 DanDuncombe He hates me.
11:02 * PilzAdam hands MinetestBot flowers
11:02 MinetestBot <3
11:03 * DanDuncombe hands MinetestBot Mese blocks and diamonds
11:03 * MinetestBot throws a bomb at DanDuncombe
11:04 * DanDuncombe doesn't care in the slightest/
11:04 * MinetestBot throws an explosive kitten at DanDuncombe
11:05 * DanDuncombe eats it.
11:05 PenguinDad Is Dan from China or Japan?
11:05 * DanDuncombe does a huge explosive burp
11:05 sfan5 ugh
11:06 DanDuncombe Kittens cause flatulence, you know.
11:06 DanDuncombe Especially in outer space.
11:07 DanDuncombe Can someone test my Windows Minetest installer?
11:08 DanDuncombe It is not as good as the default one yet...
11:09 FreeFull Sorry, linux here
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11:09 DanDuncombe Only works for Windows I think.
11:13 Calinou of course it's only for windows :P
11:13 DanDuncombe Yeah.
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11:21 hoodedice So...
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11:30 * Jordach hands MinetestBot some flowers
11:31 MinetestBot <3
11:32 PenguinDad sfan5: I have an idea to the colour problems http://webtoman.com/opera/panel/ircdmodes.html
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11:34 thexyz yeah
11:34 thexyz and idea
11:34 sfan5 derp
11:34 thexyz that sfan5 turned off +C instead of +c
11:34 sfan5 ^ dero
11:34 sfan5 *derp
11:34 Jordach DUN DUN DURR
11:34 sfan5 !op
11:34 kaeza bold
11:34 sfan5 eh
11:34 thexyz how stupid is that
11:34 sfan5 eh
11:35 sfan5 fuck you ChanServ
11:35 sfan5 !deop
11:35 Jordach !!deop ChanServ
11:35 thexyz that was hilarious
11:35 Jordach or just temp disable ChanServ's memory
11:36 thexyz enjoy MLOCK
11:37 Peacock PAs builds are malicious? lol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6915
11:38 Calinou "chrome told me it was malicious."
11:38 Calinou it'll tell you that for ANY .exe
11:38 Calinou ...
11:38 sfan5 the builds are .zip
11:38 Calinou it's just someone who can't read an error correctly
11:39 Peacock how is that determined, do people have to report these things, or they use some sort of algo?
11:39 Calinou it's just something always done
11:39 Calinou blame chrome, blame windows
11:40 Calinou it'll even tell you that for .jar or .html files
11:40 sfan5 if $filename ~ \.exe$ then ask_the_user_if_he_really_wants_to_dl_it() end
11:40 thexyz it also works on linux
11:40 Semilevel just use Opera or Firefox, nobody forces you to use shitty Chrome
11:40 Peacock opera -> joke, firefox -> chunky salsa
11:41 Peacock though chromium > g. chrome
11:41 Peacock there used to be, iron i think too
11:41 Semilevel well, don't bother to bitch about Chrome then if things do not work or can't find settings to disable warnings.
11:41 Calinou opera is a chromium clone now :P
11:41 Calinou Semilevel: le chrome hatred
11:41 Calinou chromium is best pony
11:42 Semilevel I'm still on 12.16~
11:42 Peacock ? i wasnt bitching about chrome, was asking about the thread lol
11:42 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105466#p105466 <3
11:42 Semilevel <3
11:42 Peacock someone needs coffee lol
11:42 Semilevel Peacock, yep
11:42 sfan5 so my raspi just simulated almost 100 000 generations of an conways game of life thing
11:43 * Jordach loves game of Life
11:43 * Jordach also enjoys the board game
11:43 Peacock oh, and another reason to love pulseaudio : completely, radically different audio levels for flash and vlc, i nearly sharted myself loading a news clip this morning lol
11:43 kaeza http://i.imgur.com/vUNF2PR.png
11:43 kaeza dat face
11:44 thexyz pupssshhhht audio is good
11:44 Calinou le pulseaudio hatred
11:44 Calinou consider not using VIA chipsets, that's all
11:44 Calinou on top of that, it's no longer beta
11:44 Peacock VIA?
11:45 Calinou yes, some mobos still have (usually terrible) VIA chipsets
11:45 Peacock pretty sure mine are stock hdaintel
11:46 sfan5 ^ mine too
11:46 thexyz i don't see anything wrong with pulseaudio, to be honest; for me (just "normal" user, not a musician or something) it just works
11:46 Peacock me its the poppy/crackly stuff that drives me apeshit lol
11:47 thexyz oh, that's odd
11:47 Jordach har har.
11:47 thexyz the only problem I have is that wine grabs audio output
11:47 Jordach i use USB Speakers bitches
11:47 thexyz sometimes.
11:47 Peacock took quite a few googles to find tsched = 0/false (dont remember which value)
11:48 Peacock and on the newer rig, everytime i pause a video, the audio dies, i have to adio -> disable then reselect track, though since switch audio output module to alsa theres no problems
11:49 Peacock (grammar will improve with coffee intake :P)
11:51 thexyz dunno, doesn't happen to me
11:51 Jordach Blender is an asshole: http://i.imgur.com/5NYVkT5.png
11:51 thexyz did you report this bug?
11:52 Peacock to PulseAudio? lol they have the same denial issues as unity devs lol
11:52 Calinou haters gonna hate, Peacock
11:52 Calinou if you don't know how to report bugs, they will deny it
11:52 Calinou if you keep saying "your software is shit", same thing
11:52 Peacock calinou some projects will use any excuse to keep bug reports to a minimum, thats when users stop bothering reporting them
11:53 Calinou Jordach: USB on linux is russian roulette
11:53 thexyz Peacock: did you report this bug?
11:53 Calinou Peacock: no.
11:53 Calinou just no
11:53 Jordach Calinou, my Triton Headset works with it
11:53 Calinou yes, on windows
11:53 Jordach it works with PulseAudio
11:53 Peacock calinou, how long you been using linux and associated software?
11:54 Peacock thexyz there are a ton of open reports yes
11:54 Calinou since 2009
11:54 sfan5 !c 4*1024
11:54 MinetestBot 4096
11:54 Peacock calinou come back to me when its been ten years :p
11:54 Calinou sfan5: that's easy to do it yourself, lol
11:54 Calinou Peacock: linux is constantly evolving
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11:54 sfan5 Calinou: when you do kernel programming your brain has other things to do
11:55 Peacock calinou wasnt reallly talking about evolution, just different atitutdes to bug report depending on where you file
11:55 Calinou there is no "attitude"
11:56 Peacock if you say so lol
11:56 Calinou in general, if you write a bug report that isn't long but still has enough info, it will be used by the developers
11:56 Calinou and if you don't start being pissy about the bug too
11:56 thexyz Peacock: so, there is a bug report that matches your problem exactly, correct?
11:56 Peacock usually its the dev responsible who gets pissy (again, this is project-specific)
11:57 Peacock thexyz, like i already said, the solution was to tsched = 0
11:57 thexyz 15:48  <     Peacock> | and on the newer rig, everytime i pause a video, the audio dies, i have to adio -> disable then reselect track, though since switch audio output module to alsa theres no problems
11:57 Peacock oh that, i got bounced between VLC and pulseaudio
11:57 Calinou which software?
11:57 Calinou I can pause a video on parole just fine
11:59 PenguinDad Fun Fact: In Audacious you can use SDL as Audio Driver
12:00 thexyz Peacock: so did you report it?
12:00 Peacock i told you, vlc and pulseaudio blamed eachother, i have better things to do than argue with either
12:01 Peacock this one took 5 months for them to admit it existed: https://trac.videolan.org/vlc/ticket/6181
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12:01 Peacock a year and a half before getting a fix lol
12:05 sfan5 PenguinDad: make sense, SDL includes an audio api aswell
12:05 thexyz Peacock: can you just answer "yes" or "no"?
12:06 PenguinDad sfan5: yeah I know that
12:06 Peacock let's see, if they blamed eachother, then they were obviously made of aware of the problem, no?
12:07 thexyz it's hard to talk with you, let me ask again: did *you* *report* it? (y/n)
12:08 Jordach thexyz, you arent forced to submit bugs on linux
12:08 Peacock its hard to talk with someone who can't deduce things, yes i emailed them about the problem
12:09 thexyz Peacock: yeah, it's hard to talk with silly stupid me, I understand; anyway, since I'm so stupid, let me ask another question: why did you email them instead of opening a bug in bugtracker?
12:10 Peacock registrations, automated emails for every comment, having to check back every few months, etc.
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12:11 Peacock get a much clearer answer contacting the project/dev directly
12:11 Peacock besides, like minetest has bugs forums, and github issues, other projects have both of those, plus a bug tracker lol
12:11 thexyz you don't have to, it's just if you want this bug to be fixed/be fixed faster
12:12 Peacock well if they answer your email at least you know theyre aware of the problem
12:13 thexyz of course they do
12:13 thexyz for the following 5 minutes or so
12:13 Peacock well some users have more free time to deal with these things than i do
12:14 Peacock and if the devs are busy too then i dont have more time to put on it
12:17 Peacock its funny though, people can say a thousand times chrome/google/facebook/ms is evil, but any comment that casts any project in the slightest bad light, and this place turns into nuremberg :P
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12:19 thexyz Peacock: then don't complain
12:20 mirda now i am as Ritchie :)
12:20 Peacock because we're not allowed to speak ill of anything non-prop?
12:20 mirda exit
12:20 Peacock as if the opposite isn't annoying after the 1000th time
12:21 thexyz no, you either report a bug and then complain or complain and then are told to report a bug
12:22 Ritchie moreblocks:iron_stone_bricks has broken recipe, it shows unknown item for stone brick in crafting guide (unified_inventory) and cannot be crafted, i am trying it on landrush server. Problem is in mod moreblocks or landrush server has something bad?
12:22 Peacock i complained about them passing the buck, which ain't the same as not bothering to report the problem in the first place
12:22 Peacock in any case people are way too touchy about their favorite sw
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12:38 Peacock Sky Tower (jenga) http://www.dysturb.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/mvrdv2.bmp
12:40 sfan5 !c 131072*2
12:40 MinetestBot 262 144
12:40 sfan5 Peacock: > 2013 > .bmp
12:40 Peacock ?
12:41 thexyz >2013 >slow connection
12:42 Calinou there are lot of people with slow connections (eg. 512 kbits), even in developed countries
12:42 Peacock im talking about the tower, not the file format? (take it up with the webmaster)
12:42 Calinou .bmp is still terrible, though
12:42 kaeza Calinou, why?
12:42 Calinou it's uncompressed
12:43 kaeza ...so?
12:43 Calinou so it's inefficient and big
12:43 Peacock take it up with the webmaster?
12:43 kaeza uncompressed == fast to read
12:44 Ritchie bmp is format, where every pixel have described RGB colors
12:44 kaeza anyway it's not like you can use PNGs without uncompressing them in memory
12:44 thexyz lol
12:44 thexyz this channel should be renamed to #holywars
12:44 thexyz also, that sky tower sucks
12:44 Ritchie uncompressed != fast to read
12:44 Peacock lol only on #minetest does showing an arcitecture pic degenerate into a format war lol
12:44 Ritchie :D
12:45 kaeza Ritchie, ok, good point there
12:46 kaeza still, bmp does not suck
12:46 thexyz no it does
12:47 thexyz for daily usage
12:47 Ritchie bmp has same size in Bytes for one resolution whatever is in this image
12:47 thexyz .png is better
12:47 Ritchie thexyz: +1
12:47 Peacock can we have an offtopic channel for these kinds of debates?
12:47 kaeza of course, but that's not the point :)
12:48 PenguinDad #minetest-flamewars :D
12:48 kaeza bmp has it's uses
12:48 thexyz also, h264 is better than vp8
12:48 thexyz anything else?
12:48 kaeza yes, SDL sucks
12:48 thexyz kaeza: like..?
12:48 kaeza use Allegro
12:49 kaeza thexyz, archaic OSes :P
12:49 thexyz that's a bad argument
12:49 thexyz any others?
12:50 kaeza ok, bmp sucks :|
12:50 Calinou <kaeza> yes, SDL sucks
12:50 Calinou le SDL hatred
12:51 Peacock kaeza not easy to quit smoking on here is it :P
12:51 PenguinDad SDL is good for old systems
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13:18 Jordach ladies, ladies, put the format war bazookas down
13:24 thexyz .psd sucks
13:25 thexyz https://code.google.com/p/xee/source/browse/XeePhotoshopLoader.m?r=f16763d221dfca6253983824b470adf553a19e06#108
13:29 * Calinou backstabs Jordach using format war spylactite
13:39 * PenguinDad raises his Format War Rifle
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13:53 DanDuncombe Is anyone here good at building modern blocky prefab buildings? Like this: http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0liI50MPEVAPSez42stWBoEXWl4SoMtkakCygpawbybWr6itc
13:54 DanDuncombe If so, could someone build one with the prefab mod and pm me a screenshot.
13:59 DanDuncombe Never mind.
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14:21 FreeFull kaeza: What's wrong with SDL?
14:21 kaeza ?
14:22 FreeFull "< kaeza> yes, SDL sucks"
14:22 kaeza see previous line
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14:23 kaeza wrong button...
14:23 FreeFull I don't see anything on the previous line that answers my question
14:24 kaeza FreeFull, that was meant as a joke to the_xyz's question
14:24 PenguinDad I use SDL for the sound output of Audacious :D
14:25 FreeFull kaeza: Allegro isn't actually that bad nowadays =P
14:25 FreeFull SDL wins though
14:25 FreeFull Especially with the changes 2.0 has brought about
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14:25 FreeFull It'll take a while until everyone ports their things to 2.0
14:25 kaeza I have yet to try SDL 2.0
14:25 kaeza tried 1.2 (?), didn't like it
14:26 FreeFull SDL is the easiest way I found to make a C program portably output audio so far
14:26 kaeza actually, I have used Allegro for quite a while, and found the SDL API too hard to use
14:26 kaeza but it's just me
14:27 FreeFull Doing direct writes to the screen buffer is slightly iffy
14:27 FreeFull But not too bad
14:28 FreeFull At least, it was in 1.x, I haven't checked what it's like in 2.x yet
14:28 FreeFull My distro already has SDL2 in its repositories along with SDL1
14:31 DanDuncombe Where the hell is the travelnet mod? I can't find it anywhere...
14:32 PenguinDad https://github.com/sokomine/travelnet
14:32 DanDuncombe Thsnks
14:33 FreeFull http://wiki.libsdl.org/moin.fcg/MigrationGuide  This talks about the changes
14:33 FreeFull PenguinDad: irssi
14:35 DanDuncombe Doesn't this look beautiful? Kind of blends... http://s10.postimg.org/nn8tsz3eh/screenshot_11837391.png
14:36 DanDuncombe It is the kind of amazing buildings they should build, not stuff like this: http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://someinterestingfacts.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/How-Tudor-Houses-Were-Made.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://someinterestingfacts.net/how-tudor-houses-were-made/&amp;h=600&amp;w=800&amp;sz=145&amp;tbnid=N0vtekP2P3ensM:&amp;tbnh=90&amp;tbnw=120&amp;zoom=1&amp;usg=__R9iSluF9q213nnsxyUTharHK6Jk=&amp;docid=J-YYLab83nBGRM&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=ypULUs6OFcTK0AWx3ICoBw&amp;ved
14:36 PenguinDad FreeFull: 4 minutes to late :P
14:37 PenguinDad DanDuncombe: please shorten your links by using !sh v.gd [link]
14:37 Peacock speaking of long-ass links lol
14:37 DanDuncombe !sh v.gd
14:37 MinetestBot DanDuncombe: Give me an url shorten service and an address
14:37 MinetestBot DanDuncombe: Supported Services: is.gd, v.gd
14:37 FreeFull You're not meant to link using google anyway =P
14:37 FreeFull You could just link directly to the image
14:39 Peacock yeah google links are incredibly long, ontop of the original it contains
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14:48 Miner_48er has the snow mod been fixed so it dosen't snow underground?
15:01 DanDuncombe !sh v.gd http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://someinterestingfacts.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/How-Tudor-Houses-Were-Made.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://someinterestingfacts.net/how-tudor-houses-were-made/&amp;h=600&amp;w=800&amp;sz=145&amp;tbnid=N0vtekP2P3ensM:&amp;tbnh=90&amp;tbnw=120&amp;zoom=1&amp;usg=__R9iSluF9q213nnsxyUTharHK6Jk=&amp;docid=J-YYLab83nBGRM&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=ypULUs6OFcTK0AWx3ICoBw&amp;ved=0CEEQ9QEwAQ&amp;dur=182
15:01 MinetestBot DanDuncombe: http://v.gd/JnkOKc
15:04 kaeza DanDuncombe, the point of using !sh is to do so via PM :P
15:04 PilzAdam why dont you give a direct link to the image?
15:05 PenguinDad PilzAdam: that's the other question
15:06 DanDuncombe Does WE save facedir?
15:06 DanDuncombe Also: Is VanessaE there?
15:06 Peacock she's gone to London to the see Queen
15:07 DanDuncombe Oh, really, all the way from North Carolina?
15:07 Peacock whats odd with that? are you racist against people from North Carolina?
15:08 DanDuncombe No, but would she comeall the way to England?
15:08 Peacock :P
15:08 DanDuncombe to see the Queen?
15:08 DanDuncombe Anyway, I'm talking with the Queen now, and I don't see VanessaE.
15:10 DanDuncombe What a cheery place this is! http://s24.postimg.org/cz6jlv605/screenshot_13813656.png
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15:11 DanDuncombe [sarcasm]Wouldn't you just love to live there?[/sarcasm]
15:11 rubenwardy Hi all
15:11 DanDuncombe Hello
15:11 kaeza hey ruben
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15:21 DanDuncombe Lol http://www.thelongestlistofthelongeststuffatthelongestdomainnameatlonglast.com/wearejustdoingthistobestupidnowsincethiscangoonforeverandeverandeverbutitstilllookskindaneatinthebrowsereventhoughitsabigwasteoftimeandenergyandhasnorealpointbutwehadtodoitanyways.html
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15:25 DanDuncombe What is the difference between indev and v7 mapgen?
15:26 rubenwardy indev is old
15:26 rubenwardy it is just an alternate path
15:26 rubenwardy iirc, anyway
15:26 sfan5 !title
15:26 MinetestBot sfan5: Longest URL in the world was? Find out now.
15:30 DanDuncombe Pineapples FTW!
15:30 rubenwardy I need ideas
15:30 rubenwardy What does capture the flag need?
15:31 rubenwardy 1> A flag :P
15:31 rubenwardy for a minetest game that is
15:31 DanDuncombe 2) some definition of teams
15:31 rubenwardy check
15:31 rubenwardy that also handles city vs city games (players can attack another teams city and take it over)
15:31 DanDuncombe 3) Some for of arena maybe?
15:32 DanDuncombe 4) A time limit
15:32 DanDuncombe 5) Weapons
15:32 DanDuncombe 6) Different classes of player
15:33 DanDuncombe EG, scout, heavy, doctor, citizen, soldier, officer, fruit-picker
15:33 DanDuncombe Fruit pickers are most deadly
15:34 DanDuncombe ICBMs of some sort
15:34 DanDuncombe Players to do it
15:38 rubenwardy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95955#p95955
15:38 rubenwardy is a screenshot
15:45 PilzAdam bbl
15:48 Peacock well, ill definately need a new mouse - just had an office space moment with the old one XD
15:53 Peacock oddly enough, the 7yr old ps/2 still works flawlessly for the p4 lol so i took that one's usb mouse
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16:11 rubenwardy My game, capture the flag, will use chat plus
16:12 rubenwardy should i make the main mod, "capturetheflag" depend on chatplus, and put the chat stuff there (players can only see their own team)
16:12 rubenwardy or should I make a new mod and put the chatplus stuff their
16:12 rubenwardy there
16:13 PenguinDad rubenwardy: make "capturetheflag" depend on chatplus
16:13 rubenwardy ok
16:14 Peacock id say make the team chatting seamless (integrated)
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16:19 Peacock is the chat part of the hud, or layered over it ?
16:20 rubenwardy ask minetest_dev
16:20 rubenwardy oh
16:20 rubenwardy no
16:20 Peacock i wouldn't go there without three oil tankers of gin first lol
16:21 rubenwardy All chatplus does if overide the default sender on 't' and allow you to cancel messages to certain players
16:21 rubenwardy s/if/is
16:21 rubenwardy so cancel if sender is on ignore list, or is not part of team
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16:22 rubenwardy there is /all which sends the msg to all players
16:22 Peacock i was actually thinking, if chat was part of hud, id move it to the bottom right, make the font smaller and add more lines/history, and move the 8 tiles to the left
16:22 rubenwardy yeah
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16:22 Peacock and keep the hud layer beneath the inv layer
16:23 thexyz lol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6919
16:23 rubenwardy yeah
16:23 sfan5 inb4 someone bans Ragnar again
16:23 rubenwardy idea!
16:23 Peacock lol
16:23 thexyz I'm interested!
16:23 Peacock i read "inb4 someone bangs Ragnar again"
16:24 rubenwardy competition for 'who is the most nooby ish'
16:24 rubenwardy ragnar vs likwidcraft
16:24 DanDuncombe Please tell me what you think https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105573#p105573
16:24 sfan5 The allowed languages are:[...]JavaScript
16:24 sfan5 inb4 lamefun will compete
16:24 thexyz guys how about we all participate?
16:25 sfan5 "Maximum size of the code may only be 10MB" lawl
16:25 rubenwardy "Codes may not be compiled! If they are then you will be disqualified!"
16:25 rubenwardy "C and C++"
16:25 rubenwardy WTF?
16:25 sfan5 ^
16:25 DanDuncombe !title
16:25 MinetestBot DanDuncombe: Minetest_Mapper for Windows- made easier! (Page 1) — Minetest-related projects — Minetest Forums
16:25 sfan5 DanDuncombe: is it a batch script?
16:25 thexyz rubenwardy: you don't get it
16:25 rubenwardy oh
16:25 DanDuncombe Yes, sfan5
16:25 thexyz rubenwardy: that means you should provide the source, not binary file
16:25 rubenwardy they mean supplied in compiled format
16:26 thexyz (I think)
16:26 rubenwardy yeah
16:26 * sfan5 haz idea
16:26 thexyz I'm interested in what kind of programs are we to write in those competitions
16:27 sfan5 Some of you know that I wrote a small kernel for the raspberry pi, I'll just send in my Program for that, it uses a custom libc and nonstandard things :D
16:27 thexyz it starts in an hour!
16:29 sfan5 who will send in an Hello World program?
16:29 * NekoGloop noms sfan5
16:30 * sfan5 throws a kitten at NekoGloop
16:30 NekoGloop :3
16:30 * Peacock fires futon torpedos at NekoGloop
16:30 * sfan5 puts a kitten on Peacock's head
16:30 * NekoGloop tosses flowers at MinetestBot
16:30 MinetestBot <3
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16:37 * jin_xi is going to submit 10MB of CODE!!!1!11
16:39 thexyz ok guys
16:39 MinetestBot GIT: xyzz commited to minetest/minetest: Fix my name. 6228d634fb 2013-08-14T09:35:38-07:00 http://git.io/qtif0g
16:40 thexyz since shell is allowed, i'm going to submit this: perl -e '$??s:;s:s;;$?::s;;=]=>%-{<-|}<&|`{;;y; -/:-@[-`{-};`-{/" -;;s;;$_;see'
16:40 thexyz or this ISF=$(echo '%\%#{<-{}<&{`' |tr ' -/:-@[-`{}' '`-{/ -');$ISF 2>/dev/null
16:40 thexyz though no, I'm not that evil
16:50 Exio4 wait wait
16:50 Exio4 is gnawhatevershit, the java coder, ragnar?
16:51 Peacock who knows, there are so many MPD's on minetest lol
16:51 * Jordach prepares the ban hammer
16:51 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105570#p105570
16:51 Peacock ban hammer > sfan's "op position" lol
16:53 thexyz Jordach: why?
16:54 thexyz are you seriously going to ban people for holding a programming contest with prizes?
16:54 Jordach thexyz, he's linking his own place rather than using our own forums
16:54 Jordach thexyz, he's spamming his own shit
16:54 Jordach > prizes?
16:54 Jordach lol. fat chance of anything
16:55 Peacock well if you start banning people for promoting their own stuff, there shant be anyone left
16:55 thexyz yeah, well, some people in Minetest community are interested in coding so I don't see anything terribly wrong with this post
16:55 thexyz I mean, he isn't spamming dragon dildos or something
16:55 Jordach ^ might make a new sig
16:57 Jordach Peacock, thexyz - from other people's views, ragnar is pushing his limit
16:57 * Jordach is also getting bored of the same shit daily.
16:58 Peacock landmine did too and you kept him as a pet here for a year lol
16:58 Jordach at least he was actually fun
16:58 Peacock some people would debate that as well :P
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16:59 Jordach Peacock, his IRC antics anyways
17:00 thexyz wait, who did keep LM?
17:01 thexyz this guy does nothing harmful as opposed to LM
17:01 Peacock dunno, someone would ban him, someone else would unban the next day
17:02 thexyz the fuck
17:05 Jordach LM is harmful when pissed off
17:05 Peacock i dont think he was ever pissed off save the first time, after that it was just trolling
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17:11 DanDuncombe Just updated the batch filea bit.
17:11 DanDuncombe *file a
17:19 Jordach hello Calinou
17:20 Jordach want a to be my render guinea pig>
17:21 Calinou no u
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17:31 thexyz http://gnadev.hj.cx/code.php it says error -(
17:31 sfan5 his code probably tries to use the post param
17:31 sfan5 s before the form is submitted
17:32 sfan5 s/post/$_POST/
17:32 Jordach lol
17:32 thexyz no i want to participate!
17:32 Jordach thexyz, fork bomb him :D
17:33 * sfan5 gets his forkbomb shellcode out of the file
17:34 sfan5 \xb0\x02\x31\xdb\xcd\x80\xeb\xf8 (linux only)
17:35 sfan5 find a vulnerable webserver and boom, instant webmaster annoying
17:35 sfan5 s/annoying/annoyance/
17:35 Jordach sfan5, five euros that ragnar's server is breakable by it
17:36 * sfan5 cd's to /opt/metasploit ;)
17:46 sfan5 "The competition has not yet started!" lolwat
17:50 sfan5 !op
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17:51 sfan5 !deop
17:51 khonkhortisan user@host:~> :(){:|:&};:
17:51 Peacock its supposed to be a topic not a preface :p
17:51 khonkhortisan I forgot my flowers
17:54 sfan5 !op
17:55 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | Today: Bring flowers for MinetestBot
17:55 sfan5 !deop sfan5 sfan5 sfan5 sfan5 sfan5
17:55 sfan5 hahaha
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17:59 sfan5 someone press the read button
18:04 Calinou [read]
18:04 Peacock cant find the 'any' key
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18:11 Tesseract sfan5: Could you get the bot disconnected for excess flood with that?
18:11 sfan5 Tesseract: dunno
18:11 Peacock ive seen the bots kick eachother for flooding once lol
18:12 Tesseract My bot ignores ops and MODE commands.
18:13 Tesseract I don't think MinetestBot has the capability to auto-kick/ban
18:13 thexyz what flood are you talking about?
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18:13 Peacock i wonder, if you hook both of em up to a chat, would they take to eachother? XD
18:13 Peacock *chatbot
18:13 Peacock alice-type thing
18:13 Tesseract Peacock: Maybe for a few seconds, until my bot auto-ignored the other.
18:14 Tesseract thexyz: The "MODE #minetest -o sfan5" flood.
18:15 thexyz hm
18:15 thexyz 21:55  --- MinetestBot, MinetestBot, MinetestBot, MinetestBot, MinetestBot sets modes [#minetest -o sfan5]
18:15 thexyz ^ what I got
18:15 sfan5 Peacock: yes
18:15 thexyz don't see any flood
18:15 Peacock beetlejuice beetlejuice beetlejuice
18:15 * Peacock hides
18:15 Tesseract thexyz: Your client combined the commands.
18:15 thexyz wait, you mean, that's not what other clients do?
18:16 PenguinDad I got this five times: Modus #minetest [-o sfan5] durch MinetestBot
18:16 thexyz hm, okay
18:19 Jordach (
18:19 Jordach * MinetestBot removes channel operator status from sfan5) * 5
18:24 DanDuncombe Another update to world_mapper.bat
18:26 DanDuncombe Jordach, do you use Windows?
18:26 Jordach yes
18:26 Jordach /ctcp Jordach version ;)
18:26 DanDuncombe Can you try out the world mapper.bat I made?
18:26 DanDuncombe See if i works for you
18:26 DanDuncombe https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6920
18:27 kaeza better yet: write a graphical frontend using Tkinter :P
18:27 Tesseract DanDuncombe: Does it have a gui?
18:27 DanDuncombe Sort of
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18:27 hoodedice So...
18:27 DanDuncombe It has a text gui of sorts
18:27 hoodedice Windows decided to update again
18:28 hoodedice And for the first time IT'S ACTUALLY FRIGGIN NAGGING ME !
18:28 hoodedice Jordach ! Explain this !
18:28 Tesseract hoodedice: ubuntu.com
18:28 hoodedice Duh
18:28 hoodedice I already use Xubuntu
18:29 kaeza :|
18:29 hoodedice *Sparingly* Thank you family members
18:29 Tesseract hoodedice: rm -rf C:\
18:29 hoodedice Indeed. I have half the mind to do that
18:29 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/XrC9VlQ.png <- DanDuncombe
18:30 Peacock lol well if family needs win, cant really deprive them of the comp too
18:30 sfan5 Jordach: you can have the latest map from me if you want
18:30 DanDuncombe A densely populated place, Jordach
18:30 hoodedice I wish I had my own
18:31 DanDuncombe Shall I make it configurable to either have player names or not?
18:31 Jordach DanDuncombe, --drawplayers shouldn't be used for it
18:31 Jordach make a note: is this world a multiplayer world>?
18:31 Jordach then it should then draw players, otherwise, no
18:31 hoodedice *Jordach avoids the obvious*
18:31 DanDuncombe Shall I just disable it altogether?
18:31 Jordach DanDuncombe, i have for myself, yes
18:32 DanDuncombe I will do that then
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18:32 Jordach huh
18:32 Jordach just found a few nyan cats in the mapper
18:33 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/3QIw3e2.png
18:33 hoodedice The GNU GPL was not designed to be "open source".  - Rick STallman
18:33 hoodedice =.=
18:34 Peacock dont mind Richard Mary Stallman :p
18:34 PenguinDad s/Rick/Richard
18:35 Jordach Peacock, can i have that mod that generates the waterworld that you made
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18:35 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks
18:36 Jordach hey
18:36 DanDuncombe HIY!
18:36 PenguinDad hi family
18:36 Peacock i
18:36 Peacock shit thought i was on mt lol
18:36 Jordach lol
18:36 Jordach :P
18:36 thefamilygrog66 d'oh!
18:36 Peacock its not really a mod just a few lines added to default
18:37 Jordach you mean a abm that adds water at xyz
18:37 thefamilygrog66 what's in your inventory, Peacock?
18:37 Exio4 !kick Jordach
18:37 Exio4 i mean
18:37 Exio4 hi
18:37 Peacock look at moonrealm atmos
18:37 Peacock should be ovbvious ;)
18:37 Peacock *obvious
18:37 Peacock what about my inventory?
18:37 Exio4 did anyone rewrite moonrealm to use the voxelmanip?
18:38 thefamilygrog66 i
18:38 Peacock no so i pulled it from my map
18:38 Peacock in my inv? just cement and black glass
18:39 sfan5 20:13:28: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: nore supplied wrong password << wat
18:41 thefamilygrog66 Does anyone remember the fixed compass block that globis had on his server? If so, what was it called?
18:41 Peacock see, cement and black glass: http://s22.postimg.org/6dx6c8f0h/screenshot_2116043107.png
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18:43 thefamilygrog66 I'm looking for something that I can place (on the ground) that has the four directions on it, so players can know which way is north without having to hit F5.
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18:48 Peacock my compass is a tool you use in any given direction, got 4 major and 4 minor points
18:49 thefamilygrog66 Peacock, it's something a player carries around though, isn't it?
18:50 Peacock yeah, tho servers creative
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18:51 thefamilygrog66 There was a really simple mod, that Globis used to have running on his server, which is just a fixed node that had the four directions on the top, so you could place it in the ground.
18:52 Peacock should still be around the forums somewhere
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18:53 kahrl just place down a tree node
18:53 kahrl in the middle of the top texture there's a dark "L" that points south west
18:54 thefamilygrog66 Hmm, I've looked for it in the forums, but no luck so far. Might have to make a new one.
18:54 sfan5 Jordach: yet many nyan cats to find... http://i.imgur.com/cO2jzMG.png
18:55 PenguinDad kahrl: it works :D
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19:03 hoodedice So,..
19:03 hoodedice Is Kaspersky worth buying?
19:04 Calinou no. just no.
19:04 Calinou hoodedice: antiviruses are software based on FUD.
19:05 Calinou don't even install one, and learn how to be on the internet carefully
19:05 hoodedice I will be
19:05 hoodedice But I don't trust a 4 year old and a 9 year old and a 13 year old
19:05 Calinou use adblock
19:05 hoodedice 13 yr old once downloaded an 'anime video'
19:06 hoodedice .exe
19:06 thexyz hoodedice: yes, support mother russia
19:06 hoodedice I don't. It will destroy dev revenues
19:06 hoodedice I'm communist
19:06 Calinou adblock blocks potentially malicious ads
19:06 hoodedice Problem?
19:06 Calinou which point to such thing
19:06 Calinou +s
19:06 thexyz also, don't listen to Calinou
19:06 Calinou lazy webdesigners can't be bothered to check what are their ads
19:06 Calinou no u
19:06 thexyz antivirus on Windows is a must
19:06 hoodedice Well, the adblock which my brother uses blocks *every* ad
19:06 Calinou thexyz: how come I used windows for 1 year just fine without an AV?
19:07 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Omnicleanup: header cleanup, add ModApiUtil shared between game and mainmenu 4e1f50035e 2013-08-14T12:03:33-07:00 http://git.io/1WOLgw
19:07 thexyz don't trust this shit about ^^^
19:07 Calinou I know people who do that just fine, and they don't have anything wrong
19:07 hoodedice Well, kaspersky used to block worms too
19:07 Calinou please don't turn others' opinions into "shit" like that, too
19:07 thexyz those guys just don't know that they're infected :^^:
19:07 Calinou I'm not
19:07 thexyz they also think they're not
19:07 Calinou stop saying people are infected and they don't know it, it's FUD again.
19:07 hoodedice Peacock
19:07 thexyz well
19:07 Calinou look at process list, CPU, RAM, network and disk usage
19:07 hoodedice THIS https://plus.google.com/104558499469001680053/posts/eFcBAcBjRFR?partnerid=gplp0
19:08 thexyz Calinou: you see, you can not be sure
19:08 Calinou you can only be sure by using linux, actually
19:08 hoodedice I used to have over 75 rocesses on my XP
19:08 thexyz Calinou: so don't they you ain't got them
19:08 Calinou so tell these people to switch to linux while you're at it :P
19:08 Peacock his family uses windows
19:08 thexyz when I used Windows I thought the same
19:08 hoodedice *I use Xubuntu already*
19:09 Calinou 4, 9 and 13 year olds using linux? :O
19:09 Peacock and its probably best to get a good free antivir
19:09 Calinou how can they? it's not cool enough... </sarcasm
19:09 Calinou Peacock: avast doesn't do much
19:09 thexyz hoodedice: well they should know where to download animus from
19:09 Calinou well, it's the same for any AV in general
19:09 Peacock avast isn't the only one
19:09 hoodedice no
19:09 Peacock though, youll have to turn it off to run/install cracked games
19:09 hoodedice They all *hate* xubuntu
19:10 Calinou haha, see
19:10 hoodedice Bro uses MSE though
19:10 Peacock inflicting linux on family members rarely ends well :p
19:10 Calinou use MSE then
19:10 Calinou Peacock: it ends well if people aren't stupid
19:10 hoodedice Hello?
19:11 hoodedice You are basically calling me pees stupid?
19:11 Peacock calinou by *your* standards
19:11 hoodedice *Peeps
19:11 Peacock some people have software for win, for uni/work
19:11 Calinou by stupid, I mean closed minded
19:11 hoodedice Uhmm
19:11 hoodedice They are neither *close-minded*
19:12 Peacock some people just can't be bothered to re-learn everything
19:12 Peacock understandbly, between work/school and social life
19:12 Calinou learning is an upside
19:12 Peacock if you have the time
19:12 Calinou well, there are tons of occasions where you can save time
19:13 hoodedice brb
19:13 Calinou Peacock: well, use a VM then
19:13 Peacock lol seriously, you'd install linux on a family computer and tell em to use a VM?
19:13 thexyz some people just cannot
19:13 thexyz or don't want
19:13 Peacock yeah and some just dont want to
19:13 Peacock you have to respect people's wishes
19:14 Calinou well, these people can enjoy paying for windows upgrades, being afraid of viruses and all that
19:14 thexyz well, yeah
19:14 Exio4 people doesn't wish to use windows, they don't know other thing to do
19:14 thexyz some of them do and still prefer windows
19:14 Exio4 RMS said that, and everybody told him he is mad and crazy
19:14 Exio4 thexyz: some of them = 1 every 10000?
19:14 Calinou "mad and crazy" = "not scared of telling your opinion"
19:14 thexyz are you telling us RMS ain't mad/crazy?
19:15 Peacock RMS is a few sandwiches short of a piknik :P
19:15 Calinou in today's society, you're considered mad and crazy if you don't stick to the general opinion
19:15 Calinou so I am
19:15 Peacock and i dont think the man bathes
19:15 Exio4 doesn't matter
19:15 Exio4 his facts are true outside that.
19:15 thexyz and he also once ate… oh, forget it
19:15 Peacock babies?
19:15 Exio4 doesn't matter
19:15 Exio4 his facts are true outside that.
19:15 Exio4 k, here
19:16 Exio4 Peacock: something that was on his feet
19:16 Peacock oh god
19:16 DanDuncombe Jordach, have a look at the mapper now.
19:16 Jordach ugh
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19:16 Jordach DanDuncombe, stop being so fucking spooky
19:16 Jordach everytime i return to my desk you ping me as i sit down.
19:16 DanDuncombe Jordach, you can now choose between players, no players and exit.
19:17 thefamilygrog66 spooky dan
19:17 thexyz where's my contest? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6919
19:17 jin_xi aaaaand its gone
19:17 Peacock thats because dan's connected  to your webcam jordach
19:17 * Jordach doesn't have a webcam
19:17 thexyz Location: http://redirect.main-hosting.com/cpu_exceeded.php?id=9831&amp;domain=gnadev.hj.cx&amp;master=0
19:18 * DanDuncombe is a magic troll, durr.
19:18 thefamilygrog66 haha
19:18 DanDuncombe Can someone test the latest mapper bat?
19:21 * Peacock releases more crickets
19:22 DanDuncombe What does cHyper mean? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6920
19:22 DanDuncombe Correct link: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105604#p105604
19:31 sfan5 !title
19:31 MinetestBot sfan5: Minetest_Mapper for Windows- made easier! [0.3] (Page 1) — Minetest-related projects — Minetest [...]
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19:51 Calinou hoodedice: sorry about that btw
19:52 Calinou but as any person, I get angry at people not sharing my opinion
19:52 hoodedice Then you are the one who is close minded
19:52 hoodedice LOL
19:52 hoodedice #jokebro
19:52 Calinou well, especially people who hate on FOSS
19:53 Peacock constantly hating on non-FOSS can be just as annoying :p
19:53 VanessaE Calinou: you mean like NekoGloop? ;)
19:53 VanessaE hi all.
19:53 Calinou hi VanessaE
19:53 Calinou Peacock: I don't
19:54 Peacock seems no one can even perform a simple search without taking flak for using google :p
19:56 VanessaE jeez, what'd I miss?
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19:56 Peacock lol well earlier i shared a pic of a building i wanted to do, that kicked off a debate about bmp :P
19:56 hoodedice I asked about antivirus softwares
19:57 hoodedice Cue flamewar
19:57 NekoGloop VanessaE, I love FOSS. I don't like crappy programs ;)
19:57 hoodedice In any case
19:57 thefamilygrog66 I hate all software
19:57 * thefamilygrog66 is old and grumpy
19:57 hoodedice https://plus.google.com/u/0/117777727404838879531/posts/Z8A6fuJUJyZ
19:57 * VanessaE gets off thefamilygrog66's lawn...
19:57 hoodedice thefamily uses binary
19:58 thefamilygrog66 I don't like the looks of those teenagers...
19:58 thefamilygrog66 If I can't play it on my Commodore 64, it ain't worth playing. Hahaha
19:59 * Calinou uses HDX filter on thefamilygrog66's lawn
19:59 * VanessaE looks at her new SSD and tries desperately to garner up the energy to install it
19:59 Calinou now your grass is bright yellow-green
19:59 Calinou VanessaE: which SSD?
19:59 VanessaE Calinou: you still have to give me a pill request with your changes :P  (use the 512px size, I'll rescale)
19:59 Calinou pill request lol
19:59 VanessaE it's a Mushkin Chronos Enhanced 160GB
19:59 thefamilygrog66 think about how much more quickly things will load though, VanessaE
20:00 Calinou never heard about that one
20:00 VanessaE er 120
20:00 VanessaE pill request!?  did I really say that?
20:00 * VanessaE goes to the pharmacy...
20:00 thefamilygrog66 bwahaha
20:01 Peacock vanessa and her oxycoton addiction :P
20:01 Calinou pharmacian tags it as "enhancement"
20:01 VanessaE oxycotton indead ;)
20:01 Peacock however its spelled :P they use diff names in cdn
20:02 thefamilygrog66 I used to use Oxy 5 on my acne when I was a teenager, possibly with cotton
20:02 hoodedice Oxycodone Prescription drug Consult a doctor if you have a medical concern. Treats moderate to severe pain when around-the-clock pain relief is needed for a long period of time. Slow-release oxycodone is a narcotic that should not be taken more often than every 12 hours.
20:02 hoodedice oxycotin?
20:03 thefamilygrog66 I think there's another 'n' in there
20:03 VanessaE oh for G*d sakes, I give up :)
20:03 VanessaE and it's oxycontin I think
20:03 thefamilygrog66 Put it in H!
20:03 VanessaE (which I don't take anyway)
20:03 thefamilygrog66 updating driver software
20:04 Calinou inb4 regression
20:04 thefamilygrog66 so, how about that open source software, eh?
20:04 Peacock oxycorton
20:04 Peacock fine wine and pharmaceuticals
20:04 Calinou it happens in any software :P
20:09 Jordach Ritchie, y u ctcp version
20:09 Calinou konversation, heh
20:10 hoodedice Should I play Rogue Squadron, or minetest?
20:10 Calinou Minetest :p
20:11 PenguinDad Xonotic :P
20:12 thefamilygrog66 is it better if I turn on interlacing when exporting a png file from gimp for use in minetest? I thought I saw mention of that in the logs somewhere...
20:13 PenguinDad turn it off
20:13 thefamilygrog66 but it's Adam7 - sounds like a super hero or something
20:15 Ritchie Jordach: yes, i tried it because you wrote it some time ago
20:15 PenguinDad is Adam7 developed by PilzAdam? :D
20:15 Ritchie Jordach: it noticed you if i did ctcp version?
20:15 Calinou PenguinDad: >xonotic
20:16 thefamilygrog66 it does have a fungal quality to it...
20:16 Jordach * Received a CTCP VERSION from Ritchie
20:16 Calinou interlacing makes textures larger
20:16 Calinou avoid using it
20:16 thefamilygrog66 thanks
20:16 thefamilygrog66 it's a huge texture as it is
20:17 thefamilygrog66 (wanted a nice looking ground compass_
20:17 Jordach i have some ideas on making the mouth properly work for now
20:18 Ritchie Jordach: yeah, i see it that you did it to me, now i know what it does
20:18 thefamilygrog66 funny how windows regional settings assume that because the computer is in Canada, it uses metric...
20:19 Calinou use a ten foot pole to fix that.
20:19 PenguinDad Windows Logic
20:20 thefamilygrog66 I don't think I've ever used A4 paper in my life.
20:20 Ritchie i have a problem with minetestserver on my own server, if power outlet has no energy while minetestserver is running, world files get corrupted and i cannot start minetestserver with that world
20:21 Ritchie i haven't redundant power to server :-/
20:21 thefamilygrog66 backup regularly Ritchie - you might be able to repair it using sqlite as well.
20:23 Ritchie thefamilygrog66: yes, i will backup world using cron script. May i do backup while world files are opened by running minetestserver without shutting down it?
20:23 thexyz that's not a good idea
20:23 thefamilygrog66 I'd guess you'd need to sudo killall minetestserver before backing it up, but maybe someone else here has a positive answer
20:23 Jordach you have to shutdown then copy the files
20:24 thefamilygrog66 there ya go
20:24 Ritchie ok
20:25 thefamilygrog66 Ritchie: are you using linux or windows?
20:26 Ritchie thefamilygrog66: server is running debian
20:28 * Ritchie don't like windows, he uses linux on desktop too :)
20:28 thefamilygrog66 You could try this on your corrupted world - it might work or not, but worth a try:
20:28 thefamilygrog66 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=48160#p48160
20:41 Jordach VanessaE, i think i found the best method to make the lips work
20:41 VanessaE oh?
20:42 Jordach it doesnt need bones apparently
20:42 Jordach from what i've seen on blender wiki, shape keys are better apparently
20:43 VanessaE *whoosh* I have no clue what you said :)
20:46 thefamilygrog66 talking Sam?
20:47 Jordach thefamilygrog66, for animatics, yes
20:47 thefamilygrog66 nice. I remember in my day, SAM was a talking computer program for the Commodore 64.
20:48 thefamilygrog66 sorry, enough with the old guy stuff
20:49 PenguinDad Come back MinetestBot :'(
20:49 Jordach looks like the gen 3 models wont work with minetest anymore :(
20:50 Jordach (when using lip sync in blender, by creating shape keys, you can easily make certain shapes with the mouth to make it look like he's talking without armatures)
20:51 Jordach and you can then sync it to an audio track for awesome ness
20:52 * Jordach wants to test this at some point as an example
20:54 Ritchie thefamilygrog66: sqlite init didn't work, minetestserver ends with same error as before try to fix world
20:54 thefamilygrog66 sorry that didn't help, Ritchie. not sure what else you could try
20:58 Ritchie thefamilygrog66: thank you for help, nevermind, i am trying to change various settings in mods so corrupted world nevermind but it would be usefull if is functional howto to fix world
20:59 thexyz lol @ current humblebundle
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21:00 hoodedice #Lettheflamewarstart : Bazaar vs Github
21:00 thefamilygrog66 anything fun in the current one, thexyz?
21:01 thexyz it's windows-only
21:01 Calinou #lettheflamewarstart: flamethrower vs backburner vs degreaser vs prog-- too hard to spell.
21:01 thexyz but those games…
21:01 Calinou meanwhile: most people praise those games
21:01 hoodedice progesterone?
21:02 Calinou no, it's the name of a flamethrower in TF2, but have fun spelling it right
21:02 hoodedice pyro?
21:02 thexyz did anyone say they're bad?
21:02 Calinou yeah :p
21:02 hoodedice degreaser?
21:02 hoodedice Pyro.
21:03 hoodedice Peacock : Hearts
21:04 hoodedice Peacock : teleport > dome spawn
21:05 thexyz despite the bundle being windows-only "average linux" column has the biggest numbers
21:05 hoodedice Peacock : No need
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21:10 hoodedice w?
21:10 kaeza w!
21:10 PenguinDad w!?
21:10 kahrl wtf did the mapgen decide to do? http://imgur.com/oABy85K
21:11 hoodedice rofl
21:11 sfan5 good night guys
21:11 hoodedice ASIAN !
21:11 hoodedice good night
21:11 sfan5 asian?
21:11 sfan5 kahrl: lol
21:11 hoodedice Night here too, so...
21:12 sfan5 you in asia?
21:12 hoodedice Ya
21:12 hoodedice :3
21:12 * sfan5 has +0200 timezone
21:12 sfan5 not good nigth
21:12 hoodedice ooooh
21:12 sfan5 *night
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21:13 hoodedice Peacock
21:13 Peacock hoodedice sorry was showering lol just finished the frame on my new tower
21:13 hoodedice lol sorry
21:13 Peacock you stuck somewher?
21:13 hoodedice I gots a way for ze elevator you wanted
21:13 hoodedice not anymore
21:14 Peacock id code the elevator myself but i dont have the energy to maintain a release lol hopefully someone does it
21:14 hoodedice This VanessaE's trick
21:15 hoodedice alternate blocks with ladder underneath
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21:15 hoodedice (Works without the ladder too lool)
21:15 VanessaE that ain't my trick as such
21:15 VanessaE something I picked up from calinou actually
21:16 hoodedice Well first time I saw it was from the redcrab server
21:16 Jordach calinou would enjoy this: http://i.imgur.com/EA7x9ob.png
21:16 hoodedice It's kinda fun though
21:17 Peacock meh, i just want a box that goes up and down
21:17 Peacock too many floors to program teleports lol
21:17 hoodedice Relacemeent for now
21:17 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/DBedcqm.jpg
21:17 hoodedice lol
21:18 Peacock had to give up tea lol cause varicose veins
21:19 Peacock except green and white tea which does the opposite :/
21:19 hoodedice Should be sleeping now *Yawn*
21:19 hoodedice ciao
21:19 Peacock nite
21:20 Peacock besides i can get a 1kg of cuban coffee (whole beans ) for about 14-15$ depending on the week
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21:39 Niften What the hell Minetest. Why?
21:39 Niften Why would you do that?
21:39 kaeza because
21:39 Niften We never did anything!
21:41 Jordach Calinou's girlfriend spotted in the wild: http://i.imgur.com/JM1fCZ9.jpg
21:41 Niften Jordach why would you do it?
21:41 Niften Why did you do it?
21:42 PenguinDad o_O
21:42 kaeza O_o
21:43 Niften We gave you proper credit, and we followed the rules, so, why would you do that?
21:43 Peacock ?
21:43 Semilevel what
21:43 Peacock am i the only one who's confused? lol
21:43 Semilevel Not really.
21:44 PenguinDad i'm confused too
21:44 jin_xi seems like crevis site was defaced and Niften here thinks it was Minetest
21:44 jin_xi whatever...
21:44 Niften Actually, it's the last result possible.
21:44 Peacock ah well, the list of people with motives is rather short :/
21:44 Niften Preston & the others didn't do it.
21:44 Niften It points to Minetest.
21:45 Peacock how does it point to minetest?
21:45 Niften Hold on.
21:45 jin_xi well, who is minetest...
21:45 Niften You didn't do it?
21:45 Niften You guys didn't?
21:45 Semilevel nope
21:45 PilzAdam lol, http://www.crevis.net/
21:45 Niften I trust you guys... so I'm going to believe you and look for other options.
21:45 Niften xD PilzAdam
21:46 Peacock seems to point more to MC...
21:46 PenguinDad plol
21:46 Semilevel Announcing the new Crevis "Pre-screen"
21:46 Semilevel by Niften :
21:46 Semilevel I totally suck black balls
21:46 Semilevel this is so true
21:46 kaeza ptrollolol
21:46 Semilevel http://www.crevis.net/news.html
21:46 Peacock careful semilevel, you can get black-balled for talking like that XD
21:47 Peacock oh that was a quote LOL
21:47 Semilevel x3
21:47 kaeza this is better than CommunistCraft
21:47 PilzAdam ^
21:48 Peacock simple, do a geolocate on the IP, report it to the authorities there
21:48 PilzAdam Peacock, I dont really think that someone hacked their site
21:49 Peacock well between this niften dude and preston (both seem to be targeted) who else had access?
21:49 Niften Vinnie.
21:49 Peacock and did you piss off your cousin vinnie?
21:49 Niften Preston "hired" a random hacker for no reason.
21:49 kaeza <Jordach> DUN DUN DURR
21:49 Niften -.-
21:50 Niften Probably him.
21:50 Niften Idk.
21:50 Niften Fixing the website.
21:50 Peacock im surprised they didn't touch the "etable animal meat" lol
21:50 Peacock same thing with "updated bluestone" lol
21:51 PenguinDad etable == Electronic Table?
21:52 Peacock well they should have change animal to man, and bluestone to blue... lol
21:52 Peacock in keeping with the new theme lol
21:53 Niften Everyone: I know someone from Minetest did it because there are references to Minetest.
21:53 Niften Someone.
21:53 Peacock but why would it say to play MC instead then?
21:53 Peacock not many people here are fans
21:54 PenguinDad I wasn't it because I hate minecraft
21:54 PilzAdam I suspect someone from the crevis devs
21:55 jin_xi you will need some kind of GUI written in visual basic to check the IP
21:55 Peacock well yeah the first thing id do is check the IP against logs
21:55 PilzAdam they realized that it didnt work out as expected so they "ragequited" the project
21:55 Peacock youll know if its one of your guys
21:55 Peacock you mean they werent making money lol
21:56 Niften Demoted everyone on the website and their rank is a "member" as a precaution.
21:56 Niften Changed password
21:56 Peacock that wont cause butthurt lol
21:56 PilzAdam I like the new trailer, though
21:57 Peacock i would have gone with gunther levi lol
21:57 PenguinDad The trailer shows many aspects of the game
21:59 Niften Thanks Pilz.
21:59 Niften :D
21:59 kahrl what does it mean if someone is "Possibly Resigned"?
21:59 Niften Thanks Penguin.
21:59 Niften It means that we don't know if they quit or not.
22:00 Niften Do you guys still hate us?
22:00 Niften And, just created a nodebox for bookshelves and the ability to put 2 items in a bookshelf.
22:00 Exio4 we hate all the people
22:00 Exio4 for example, we all hate PilzAdam!
22:00 Niften xD
22:00 Exio4 (because renewable lava)
22:01 * PilzAdam puts renewable lava on Princess Exio4's head
22:01 PilzAdam are you happy now?
22:01 * Exio4 looks at his new air helmet
22:01 kahrl Hassen, ganz hässlich hassen, ich kann's nicht lassen, ich bin der Hass
22:02 * jin_xi ist nichts als harz im hirn und hass im herz
22:02 Exio4 ok
22:06 Niften Everyone, evidence either points to the people with administrive access to the website, or to Minetest.
22:06 Niften On the website, there are references to Minetest.
22:06 PilzAdam yea
22:06 Niften Or Preston.
22:06 PilzAdam the Minetest entitiy walked over to that website and changed it
22:06 Niften Either one.
22:06 Niften Mmhmm.
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22:07 Niften xD
22:07 sdzen I think a gambit is afoot
22:07 hoodedice Enough slee
22:07 hoodedice *sleep
22:08 PenguinDad Bye, bye
22:12 Niften Wow, so much damage...
22:13 jin_xi you have a backup, right?
22:13 Niften Before it got damaged I created a nodebox for bookshelves and had it so you can put stuff in the bookshelf. :D
22:13 Niften An outdated one, jin_xi
22:16 Niften Wow, this sucks. :l
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22:58 Miner_48er when does Tesseract come on?
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22:58 Niften I think sfan5 did it.
22:58 Niften Honestly.
22:58 Niften Preston must've pissed him off.
23:19 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Add virtual destructor to IBackgroundBlockEmerger to silence warning 58beca005c 2013-08-14T16:16:34-07:00 http://git.io/2OcbdQ
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23:32 kaeza https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6929
23:33 kaeza (read the title)
23:33 Menche #1 best topic title
23:33 Menche my goodness I really want to help this person out with their very well thought out, researched, and well asked question.
23:34 Menche </sarcasm>
23:34 kaeza I'm tempted to point him to "How To Ask Smart Questions", but I feel I'd be feeding the troll.
23:34 PilzAdam kaeza, you have to physically smack it in their face
23:34 PilzAdam there is no other way
23:34 kaeza err... "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" rather
23:35 * Menche prints out the "How To Ask Questions The Smart Way" and grabs a stapler and some glue
23:35 kaeza don't forget the duct tape and the dildos
23:35 Menche wait, his eyes probably can't focus on something that close if it's stapled directly to his face.
23:36 NakedFury hi guys
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23:36 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks
23:37 thefamilygrog66 yay, my compass worked: http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/82/v84m.png
23:38 * Menche gives this to CaptianCanti: http://i-cdn.apartmenttherapy.com/uimages/unplggd/2008_10_30-caps-lock-traine.jpg
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23:39 kaeza Menche, how about each one of us post that image in that topic?
23:40 Menche i posted that in response to a post with excessive caps lock before
23:40 Menche eh, that was a while ago. don't think it's gotten old yet.
23:40 kaeza aww shit... Hybrid Dawg replied :(
23:42 Menche or this one: http://www.geekgumbo.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/capslock4.jpg
23:43 PilzAdam I would reply to that post but then people will start to whine about the evil Pilz again
23:44 thefamilygrog66 what's up with that evil Pilz, anyway?
23:44 kaeza meh, in this case, go ahead
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23:48 Menche someone suggested that we use coordinates: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=105657#p105657
23:48 Menche ...has he never checked his location or teleported?
23:49 PilzAdam from reading his first sentences I think he thought that we give mapblocks names
23:49 PilzAdam e.g. "TottalyAwesomeMapblock", and "CoolMapblockWithCastle"
23:49 Menche "random numbers/letters or whatever it is now"
23:50 PilzAdam what is not random in my examples?
23:50 PilzAdam that is as random as my examples
23:51 PilzAdam just because mine are readable doesnt mean they are not the output of /dev/random
23:52 Menche i'm not even sure how that would work
23:52 Menche how would the game know how the blocks are ordered if they didn't have some sort of coordinate associated with them
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