Time Nick Message 00:00 Jordach PilzAdam, done the front entrance to your castle 00:01 Jordach entirely from a single screenshot 00:01 * Jordach goes to bed 00:06 * NekoGloop sits on VanessaE's lap 00:07 VanessaE ooff.. get *shoves* OFF! 00:07 NekoGloop mrow! 00:08 NekoGloop butbutbutbut 00:08 NekoGloop it's World Kitten Day :< 00:08 VanessaE you're no kitten :-) 00:08 VanessaE you a fat cat :D 00:08 * PilzAdam slabs VanessaE 00:08 NekoGloop I'm a fat cat but a twig of a human being. 00:08 PilzAdam today is world kitten day! 00:08 NekoGloop seems legit 00:09 VanessaE slabs? well, a nice slab of chicken sounds good right now 00:10 VanessaE besides, I have a box full of the real thing to my right :-) 00:10 * VanessaE pets Cookie 00:11 VanessaE not sure where Jeannie has gotten off to. 00:11 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDAFivGsKX4 ~ 00:11 VanessaE !title 00:11 MinetestBot VanessaE: [♪] Portal - Making Science - YouTube 00:12 NekoGloop :3 00:26 pitriss Please can anybody know if is mithirll chests linking working? And if yes, how I can use that.. 00:28 lordcirth pitriss, haven't tested, but I believe the idea is that you can tab/arrow/whatever between the chests, from any one of them 00:29 pitriss lordcirth: ohh, i should test it then..:) TY.:) 01:14 sokomine we need a better way to handle slabs...6d facedir is great, but always turning them with the screwdriver is difficult 01:14 VanessaE there's not much to be done outside of the code in moreblocks/stairsplus 01:14 VanessaE it at least has some decent placement prediction 01:15 VanessaE all it really lacks is a way to override placing a slab vertically on a wall when you want it horizontal (the reverse is done by holding your Sneak key while placing) 01:21 PilzAdam bye 01:33 Tesseract But that means no horizontal slabs on chests and such. 01:39 Tesseract The only good way to do it is a seperate key. 01:39 VanessaE yeah 01:39 VanessaE but as we can't define a new key command in Lua, we're kinda stuck 01:42 Tesseract t=-72C? 01:42 VanessaE bbrbrbbrrrrrr 01:42 VanessaE *shiver* 01:42 VanessaE proller: I think you need to work on that. now. :) 01:43 VanessaE it got up to +57C at the spawn on my server the other day. Nice cool breeze....if you're on Mercury. 01:48 Tesseract I left out cobble generators on for under two minutes, result: Just under four stacks of cobble... 01:48 Tesseract our* 01:49 Tesseract Actually more than that. 01:51 * Tesseract loves Auto Block(node) breakers. 01:58 kaeza Tesseract, now, if somebody could convert cobble to wood that would be great :P 01:59 sokomine hm 02:11 Tesseract kaeza: I am working on a logger... 02:12 harrison http://youtu.be/EHnqfLdvKNw 03:03 kaeza bbl 03:57 hoodedice Peacock 03:57 hoodedice I'm free 03:58 Peacock i have to shutdown for the night - heat and trouble with breakers :/ 03:58 hoodedice Wow. 03:58 Peacock p4 auto-offed twice now lol 03:59 hoodedice auto-offed? 03:59 hoodedice That's Indian English 03:59 hoodedice Say: Busted 04:00 hoodedice P4 overheated and busted twice now lots of love 04:00 Peacock the powerbar itself didn't reset, but part of the room went off :/ 04:00 Peacock i have a feeling lots of feeling are running their ACs on max tonight 04:00 hoodedice Woah. 04:01 Peacock *lots of people 04:01 Peacock but i should be up in six hours or less and back up 04:01 Peacock i never sleep long in heatwaves lol 04:02 hoodedice What's the temperature like? 04:02 Peacock 27 + humidity 04:02 Peacock c 04:02 Peacock says 31 on indoor thermostat 04:03 hoodedice Humidity might be the culprit. 30c is actually cold 04:03 Peacock cold? lol i could use a cold shower :P 04:04 Peacock anyways, be back in a few hours :-) 04:04 Peacock gonna try and get some zzz's 04:04 hoodedice ciao 04:41 Arkmabat Anyone have a working nether mod? 04:46 VanessaE pilzadam made one 04:46 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5790 04:49 Arkmabat I cant find the nether eye/pearl 04:50 * VanessaE shrugs 04:50 VanessaE I've never used that mod 04:50 Arkmabat Dang. 04:50 VanessaE (don't really care for the idea of a "hell" realm) 04:50 Arkmabat Good point 06:42 daniel44321 hello 06:42 daniel44321 anyone know how to setup a mientest server? 06:42 daniel44321 mine* 07:28 sfan5 hi everyone 07:28 VanessaE morning. 07:29 PenguinDad G'Day 08:56 PenguinDad !up 0gb.us 08:56 MinetestBot 0gb.us:30000 is up (594ms) 09:10 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Friday and happy Book Lovers' Day! :-D 09:10 sfan5 morning 09:10 sfan5 !op 09:11 sfan5 !deop 09:11 kaeza lol 09:12 * PenguinDad gives MinetestBot a Cheesecake. 09:12 sfan5 you can't use leaves as fuel? 09:13 sfan5 oh god 09:13 sfan5 wait 09:13 sfan5 you can 09:13 VanessaE I Was about to ask, since when? 09:13 PenguinDad but leaves aren't efficient 09:13 sfan5 my mod just broke 09:14 VanessaE PenguinDad: no, no but they're plentiful :) 09:14 sfan5 no wait 09:14 sfan5 they burn so fast the furnace doesn't even enable 09:21 PenguinDad !seen Police 09:21 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen police around. 09:22 kaeza !seen seen around 09:22 MinetestBot kaeza: Sorry, I haven't seen seen around. 09:22 kaeza :< 09:23 VanessaE heh 09:32 kaeza http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=1069 09:32 VanessaE heh 09:33 PenguinDad :D 10:54 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:54 VanessaE morning PA 10:56 Calinou hi PilzAudio 10:56 VanessaE lol 10:56 PenguinDad hi PulseAdam 10:58 PilzAdam is anyone on the LogoSkyblock server? 10:59 thexyz is there a single block or is every player given a very personal skyblock? 10:59 PenguinDad !server sfan5.duckdns.org 10:59 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No results 11:00 PilzAdam thexyz, one public block 11:00 PenguinDad thexyz: only a single minetest logo 11:00 PilzAdam but there are no random people playing there 11:00 PilzAdam only well known members of the community 11:00 PilzAdam thats what makes it so fun 11:02 * VanessaE 's brain crashes 11:02 VanessaE time to sleep, night all. 11:07 Calinou night 11:10 PilzAdam sfan5, whats up with the server? there are lighing glitches and the bones with the bucket are gone 11:20 * PilzAdam hands MinetestBot a cake 11:32 PenguinDad Hello Jordach 11:34 Jordach mhm 11:35 PenguinDad hmmm 11:44 PilzAdam Jordach, the bones with the water bucket disappeared 11:44 PilzAdam the whole thing down there is gone 11:44 Jordach dammit sfan5 11:45 Jordach you killed the fucking bucket 11:49 NekoGloop I'd give minetestbot cake, but i ate all of it yesterday 11:55 PenguinDad !seen Jeija 11:55 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen jeija around. 11:55 * Jordach pets MinetestBot and gives her cake 12:02 thexyz http://aralbalkan.com/notes/schnail-mail-free-real-mail-for-life/ 12:05 Jordach PilzAdam, http://i.imgur.com/gl7z7hg.png 12:05 PenguinDad !title 12:05 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Document isn't HTML 12:05 PilzAdam wow 12:06 Jordach PilzAdam, that's my screenshot used to create it 12:07 Jordach i did the same with blockmen's wallpaper 12:07 PilzAdam there is one block missing, though 12:07 PilzAdam at the top of the right tower 12:09 Jordach haha, didnt see that 12:09 PilzAdam I fixed the lighting on the server now 12:12 Jordach nice 12:15 Jordach PilzAdam, you saw that strange block in that speed render? (it was unusally dark) 12:15 PilzAdam yes 12:16 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/SsijSZ8.png 12:16 Jordach it was a duplicate block 12:17 Telek Hey, did something major change in the server? All my blocks now show up unknown. 12:17 Telek 0.4.6->0.4.7 12:17 Jordach Telek, edit the file in the world called xxxx.mt 12:18 Jordach (cant remember the name) but it's contents has something in it that points at survival 12:18 Jordach PilzAdam, http://i.imgur.com/SsijSZ8.png 12:18 Telek urgh. 12:18 Telek So it's not minetest_game anymore? 12:18 Jordach open up world.mt in nano, vi, emacs etc 12:19 PilzAdam its still minetest_game 12:19 Jordach and change gameid = survival/creative to gameid = minetest 12:20 Telek Yeah, nevermind, I think I hadn't updated to the associated minetest_game. 12:20 PenguinDad Telek: it's minetest_game anymore 12:21 Jordach PenguinDad, but gameid = minetest 12:21 Jordach the game is called minetest_game, but the engine calls it "minetest" 12:25 PenguinDad Jordach: i know that 12:26 PilzAdam the gameid is "minetest" because the engine removes the "_game" 12:30 Telek So all the mod dirs need to have _game now, or just the minetest_game to uniquely identify it? 12:40 thexyz no they don't 12:40 thexyz it only deletes _game when it's present 12:40 thexyz I have no idea why it's done this way 12:41 thexyz any speculations? 12:42 nore thexyz: different github repos? 12:42 nore looks like the simplest explanation for me 12:43 thexyz oh shit 12:43 thexyz i'm stupid 12:43 nore about minetest-stress, will it be replacing the current API? 12:43 thexyz no, it'll be distributed as a mod 12:43 nore or will it be something like a common mod library? 12:44 nore and do you know why #856 isn't merged? 12:45 nore a lot of mods would profit it 12:45 PenguinDad thexyz: interesting way to make Travis-CI work 12:45 thexyz yeah 12:46 thexyz I have no idea how to make it not output ruby/rvm versions though 12:48 thexyz nore: no idea, ask celeron in #-dev 12:50 nore thexyz: will minetest-stress support treegen, biomes, and so on? 12:51 nore and node definitions? 12:57 thexyz what do you mean by "support treegen"? all minetest. methods are still here 12:58 thexyz mapgen stuff probably won't be supported in first versions 12:59 nore yes, but helpers for example for minetest.register_node to be done a different (simpler?) way 12:59 nore same for spawn_tree, etc. 13:00 thexyz nodedef will be supported 13:00 thexyz there are things to improve, for example, add "uses" to item definition 13:01 nore yes, that is definitely needed 13:01 thexyz I'm not sure about what to improve in spawn_tree 13:01 nore neither am I... 13:02 nore about tools, what do you think of #688? 13:02 thexyz well, I can add a method to Stress.Node, so you can _({0, 0, 0}):spawn_tree({def}) 13:02 Jordach wtf is minetest-stress used for 13:03 thexyz well, you see, I'm writing stress because I dislike current API 13:03 nore thexyz: that could be done 13:03 thexyz to me it looks like alot of patches 13:03 nore Jordach: is the LogoSkyBlock server down? 13:04 Jordach err 13:04 thexyz this one → http://i.imgur.com/KbpGf.jpg 13:15 Jordach aw, i had to change my screen back to 19'' 13:15 * Jordach had a 21'' 13:16 Jordach PilzAdam, http://i.imgur.com/vdoyxuc.png 13:16 Jordach (your tall back tower is visible from my screenshot) 13:17 thexyz nore: any other suggestions? 13:19 Jordach ehm, RTT = 0.8 isn't good 13:23 Jordach sfan5, what do we do with gravel 13:24 hoodedice Peacock : server 13:24 Jordach oh, and the lighting is fucked up 13:24 Peacock is up 13:25 hoodedice if event_server = true then execute "minetest.exe" 13:25 PilzAdam wtf, RTT=3.6 13:25 PilzAdam ^ Jordach 13:25 Jordach 1.4 here 13:26 PilzAdam the lighting is messed up again? 13:26 PilzAdam I fixed it by growing trees 13:27 hoodedice Peacock : feature_request = custom_skins 13:27 Peacock thats a bit superfluous 13:27 hoodedice As in? 13:28 Peacock i dont use up resources unless it really adds something to the game 13:28 hoodedice OK 13:28 Peacock biggest priorities are lavafurnace and oil-workbench/factory 13:28 hoodedice brb 13:28 Peacock since the pipe network is up 13:28 hoodedice Oil in a waterworld? 13:28 HoleDigger Hi. Can anyone help me? 13:29 hoodedice Yes, HoleDigger. Just ask. 13:29 Peacock why not? in a flooded world there wouldn't be many accessible resources left,but oil would be one of them 13:29 HoleDigger Alright, I've recently come accross Minetest. And I want to test it out, however upon start up and world creation my FPS is at 1-5. I can't play at all. :/ 13:30 Rancon Have you tried closing excess programs in the background? 13:30 kaeza your system info? 13:30 HoleDigger I've downloaded Razor Game Booster and tried to do that. 13:30 HoleDigger Yes I have Rancon. 13:30 Rancon Green text? 13:30 HoleDigger Urm.. 13:31 hoodedice Dont use gamebooster 13:31 hoodedice Screws up your PC in the long run 13:31 HoleDigger My Processor is: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU 13:31 Rancon sorry... I'm new to irc.. why is your text green? 13:31 hoodedice Your system secs, please? 13:31 kaeza graphics card? 13:31 hoodedice *Specs 13:31 HoleDigger T7100 @ 1.80GHz 1.80 GHz 13:31 HoleDigger Installed Memory(RAM): 4.00GB (3.49GB useable) 13:31 hoodedice Is that a laptop/netbook? 13:32 HoleDigger Laptop. 13:32 HoleDigger Rancon, I have no clue as I am also new to IRC. 13:32 OldCoder Hi 13:32 HoleDigger Urm.. How do I check what graphics card I have? 13:33 kaeza try disabling fancy features like shaders, etc 13:33 HoleDigger I've tried all of those settings. 13:33 HoleDigger Using the mimapping filter, makes my FPS rise to 5. 13:33 kaeza Rancon, green text is when somebidy says your nickname <--- like this line 13:33 thexyz Peacock: custom skins don't add any overhead to lua, do they? 13:33 kaeza body* 13:34 Rancon Okay, cool. Thanks :) 13:34 Peacock its more crap to d/l 13:34 kaeza :| 13:34 thexyz it doesn't matter when you have remote media set up 13:34 Peacock i have tons of nodes id rather add but i wanna keep the timeouts reasonable 13:34 HoleDigger So.. Any solutions? 13:35 hoodedice HoleDigger 13:35 hoodedice Which OS? 13:35 HoleDigger Windows 8. 13:35 Rancon Well.. bye :) I kind of feel unconfortable.. kind of like dropping on a conversation that's not mine.. 13:36 hoodedice hmm... 13:36 hoodedice Anyone knows where the Device Manager is in Windows 8. LOL 13:36 Peacock as for remote media, i have enough trouble finding file/image hosts that can stay up/inbusiness lol sounds like a hassle 13:36 kaeza lol metro 13:36 hoodedice MEdiaFire? 13:36 Rancon weird... HoleDigger and I both use windows 8 on laptops.. but I'm having server lag whilst he is having general lag 13:36 thexyz Peacock: hm? why can't you host it yourself? 13:37 Jordach MinetestBot, tell sfan5 to get his ass down to his server 13:37 hoodedice HoleDigger, Press WIndowsKey+X 13:38 HoleDigger Okay. 13:38 Peacock well id have to setup a server which is presumably more overhead, something more to maintain, and MT already does media, even if its not quite as fast 13:38 hoodedice Anything pops up? 13:38 thexyz by the way, I think we should make it fetch files by sha1 hash, then make public CDN 13:38 HoleDigger Yeah. 13:38 hoodedice Peacock, what about Mediafire/Google Drive? 13:38 HoleDigger A dialog box in the bottom left. 13:38 thexyz Peacock: yeah, but in the end it'll take less resources 13:38 hoodedice HoleDigger, is it 'Device Manager' 13:39 HoleDigger There is a 'Device Manager' option there.. 13:39 hoodedice Ok, click on that 13:39 Peacock if someone makes a mod or a plugin that makes remote media easy to setup i'll consider it 13:39 thexyz (or just use free cloudflare CDN) 13:39 HoleDigger Done. 13:40 Peacock as for mediafire/googledrive, im trying to minimize how much stuff i have to register for 13:40 thexyz I think that'd be the best way 13:40 hoodedice Ok, HoleDigger. Search for something that goes ATi, or nVidia, or intel GMA 13:40 PilzAdam Jordach, too much lag 13:40 thexyz host everything @ minetest.ru and use cloudflare cdn to deliver static 13:40 PilzAdam this isnt fun anymore 13:41 Jordach *runs nmap on sfan5's IP* 13:41 Jordach brb 13:41 HoleDigger Urm. 13:41 Peacock plus the minute i start hosting files externally i know people are gonna crawl up my ass about licensing lol 13:42 HoleDigger Under Display Adapter... I have found.. 13:42 hoodedice .. 13:42 hoodedice (That sure is a lot of susence) 13:42 hoodedice *suspence 13:42 hoodedice *suspense 13:43 thexyz Peacock: that's no different to what you have now, people can already "crawl up your ass about licensing" 13:43 HoleDigger Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM 1.1) 13:43 Peacock difference is they cant do anything about it 13:43 thexyz but, anyway, I like this idea of free CDN with everything 13:43 Peacock except piss and moan, but im used to that here lol 13:44 hoodedice Hmm, your GMA can run GTA SA nicely 13:44 hoodedice Update your drivers 13:44 HoleDigger How? 13:44 hoodedice Or. Better option. Switch to Xubuntu 13:45 hoodedice http://www.xubuntu.org 13:45 hoodedice !title 13:45 MinetestBot hoodedice: Xubuntu 13:45 thexyz Peacock: sure; I've never encountered with that here, we're probably in different channels 13:45 HoleDigger I wish to stay on Windows 8. 13:46 Peacock i'll bet 13:46 hoodedice I don't have enough documentation on 8 13:46 hoodedice I'm on xp atm. 13:46 HoleDigger How do I update my drivers? 13:47 hoodedice !g update intel 965 drivers 13:47 MinetestBot hoodedice: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Product_Filter.aspx?ProductID=2800 13:47 NekoGloop protip: don't say you're using windows 8 in this chat, you'll just arouse the biased haters 13:47 hoodedice Indeed 13:47 hoodedice 8 is good. I haven't used it much though. 13:47 thexyz no its shit!!1 13:47 hoodedice Wait. 13:48 hoodedice Updating intel GMA on xp is easy. One Right click and four left clicks 13:48 hoodedice HoleDigger 13:48 hoodedice http://www.intel.com/support/go/downloads/ 13:48 thexyz its muh easier to just emerge stuff!!1 13:48 hoodedice !title 13:48 MinetestBot hoodedice: Intel(R) Redirect 13:49 HoleDigger Alright thank you. 13:50 hoodedice Get back if your GMA has updates. 13:50 hoodedice Peacock: Can you pass me remote media via mail? 13:51 Peacock dont know how that could work 13:52 Peacock either way, im not publishing anything 13:52 HoleDigger Says it has a 'New Driver Available'. 13:52 HoleDigger So DLing it now. 13:53 hoodedice It's been four minetest days. And my nation hasn't loaded yet -.- 13:53 Peacock you appear to be in the dome 13:54 hoodedice Yes 13:54 Peacock i got other players who are building :/ 13:54 hoodedice *comeletely loaded 13:56 Peacock i managed to create a sortof artificial sun by laying two layers of invis lights 13:57 hoodedice oooh 13:57 hoodedice Will check that out 13:57 Peacock figured id be better than putting light fixtures everywhere lol 13:58 FreeFull What's old style modmgr? 13:59 hoodedice How much am I allowed to interact? 13:59 HoleDigger Alright, hoodedice, I completed the installation of the package. 13:59 HoleDigger Going to try to play again now. 13:59 hoodedice Restarted? 13:59 HoleDigger Almost forgot. 14:00 HoleDigger Let me do it now. 14:00 Peacock you want me to restart? 14:00 hoodedice No tyou 14:00 Peacock oh ok lol 14:02 FreeFull Peacock: Do you know what climbing thing I was talking about? 14:02 Peacock havent tried it yet 14:02 Peacock building a new skyscraper :-) 14:05 Peacock Freefull i added you to smokers nation so you can build on the smaller platform and be protected 14:05 hoodedice Peacock, What's my nation called? 14:05 Peacock smokers too, but you wanted the dome not the platform :p 14:06 Peacock so figured there wouldn't be much overlap 14:09 hoodedice ooookay 14:09 FreeFull Peacock: I still wish there was a crafting bench or somesuch 14:09 Peacock well if you want platform space and theres a shortage i could always enlarge nation and add more 14:10 Peacock crafting bench will be easy to get to work with oil 14:10 Peacock its coming up with crafts that will be PITA lol 14:10 Peacock bench will have a 4x4 or 5x5 grid methinks 14:10 Peacock or seperate columns for different components, not sure yet 14:12 Peacock bench is gonna have to have craftguide builtin since i wont be able to remember any of them lol 14:12 hoodedice HoleDigger s PC takes an awful load of time to boot 14:13 hoodedice Peacock, I need a teleort to spawn 14:13 Peacock in the dome? 14:14 thexyz hoodedice: or it broke 14:14 hoodedice Is ther a dome spawn? Then yes 14:15 hoodedice Windows 8. You can never expect anything. 14:16 Peacock done :-) 14:17 hoodedice Nope. 14:17 Peacock you mean youre stuck? 14:17 hoodedice Spawn me to main pawn then 14:17 hoodedice Ya 14:17 hoodedice Under the grass 14:18 Peacock sorry thought you meant you wanted a teleporter there lol 14:18 Peacock you have both now :p 14:19 HoleDigger Just tested it, no change. 14:19 PenguinDad HoleDigger: does it work 14:19 HoleDigger I did see some sort of error message upon start up though, in the command prompt dialog thingy. 14:20 HoleDigger 'OpenGL driver version is not 1.2 or better.' 14:20 HoleDigger 'Using renderer: OpenGL 1.1.0' 14:20 PilzAdam HoleDigger, then you need to update your graphic card driver 14:20 thexyz > PA trolling 14:20 hoodedice PilzAdam, See logs 14:20 Jordach HoleDigger, is the computer Windows Surface Pro 14:21 hoodedice He just did that 14:21 hoodedice Not surface. 14:21 hoodedice Intel crapware 14:21 thexyz now the only way left is to switch to glorious Linux 14:21 hoodedice Indeed 14:21 thexyz I mean, GNU/Linux 14:21 hoodedice HoleDigger, does the game start up? 14:22 HoleDigger Yes. 14:22 hoodedice fs still 1-5? 14:22 hoodedice *fps 14:22 PenguinDad HoleDigger: try D3D 14:22 HoleDigger Yes. 14:22 HoleDigger D3D? 14:22 PenguinDad Direct3D 14:25 PilzAdam spam: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104803#p104803 14:25 hoodedice TRUST THE RUSSIANS!!! 14:25 hoodedice https://disk.yandex.com/public/?hash=eqtHYSG7Xzd/rVZ84/QG4dGqFVr8FttR/6i2jl38AHQ%3D&locale=ru 14:25 hoodedice !title 14:25 MinetestBot hoodedice: minetest-0.4.7-win64-2ed3067bbe.zip — Яндекс.Диск 14:25 hoodedice Download this, HoeDigger 14:26 hoodedice *HoleDigger 14:26 thexyz https://medium.com/geek-empire-1/511d89eb37f 14:26 Peacock ugh, just got markveidemanis on my server lol 14:28 hoodedice Open Messaging Service? 14:29 thexyz this post came from future 14:32 FreeFull Peacock: I can't put down any signs 14:32 FreeFull Oh, nevermind 14:32 FreeFull They have to be on a wall 14:32 kaeza well, this is at least taking some shape https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_2013-08-09_14-29-33_00.png 14:32 FreeFull Otherwise you get an error 14:32 kaeza oops 14:32 FreeFull And lose the sign 14:32 kaeza wrong chan 14:34 hoodedice thexyz. It is August 9 here 14:34 hoodedice arg = invalid 14:34 thexyz okay 14:34 thexyz did you read it? 14:35 hoodedice I didn't get it 14:35 hoodedice What is this OMS 14:35 hoodedice How does it work? 14:35 Peacock FreeFull yeah i only have one type of sign 14:35 Peacock i figured theres no shortage of posts/columns and the likes to put them on 14:41 HoleDigger hoodiedice, I dowloaded what you told me ot. 14:41 HoleDigger to* 14:41 HoleDigger Said that the applicaiton couldn't run on my computer. 14:47 Jordach HoleDigger, is it a hybrid laptop tablet 14:48 sfan5 Jordach: I'm back 14:48 Jordach sfan5, kill those torrents 14:48 sfan5 which torrents? 14:48 Jordach all of em 14:48 HoleDigger Jordach, no, it's a laptop. 14:48 Jordach me and PilzAdam we're getting RTT = 2.0 14:48 sfan5 Jordach: I don't have anything running except minetestserver and a webserver 14:49 Jordach strange, lag's now gone 14:49 Jordach anytime you go: we all lag 14:49 sfan5 oh shit 14:49 * sfan5 know knows 14:49 sfan5 I left the War Thunder launcher running 14:49 sfan5 that seeds for a torrent 14:49 Jordach ffs 14:50 * Jordach tries to poke evergreen, but he's not here 14:59 Jordach hello Calinou 14:59 Jordach Calinou, sfan5.duckdns.org 15:00 Jordach ^ connect! 15:01 Peacock i always read duckdns as shorthand for duck dinners lol 15:06 hoodedice Peacock : need_fly 15:06 Peacock temp granted 15:07 hoodedice thnx 15:07 Peacock dont tell anyone ingame lol 15:08 hoodedice k =) 15:08 hoodedice Sister's killing me for the PC 15:08 hoodedice that's why 15:08 PilzAdam sfan5, lol, chat segfault 15:09 sfan5 haha 15:09 Peacock ^ why i dont use ingame chat lol 15:09 sfan5 I bet you had gdb attached 15:09 FreeFull Peacock: What inventory does your server use? 15:09 Peacock a very customized version of UI 15:09 PilzAdam sfan5, each server step updates the player positions; 0.1 == 10 updates per second == 10 "frames" per second 15:09 PilzAdam no gdb :-/ 15:10 PilzAdam sfan5, 0.05 would at least mean 20 FPS 15:10 hoodedice On an average, I get 2500 ERRORS for each hour of gameplay 15:10 FreeFull Peacock: I'd love if the shifting inventory behaviour wasn't there 15:10 sfan5 PilzAdam: ok,ok 15:10 Peacock shifting? 15:11 FreeFull Peacock: Like every time you get a new item from it, your whole inventory shifts by one 15:11 FreeFull Also, there don't seem to be plain wooden stairs in it D: 15:11 Peacock thats intentional, otherwise im always grabbing stuff from the end and moving it to the front 15:11 Peacock default wood aint in there 15:12 Peacock i tried to limit default to "natural" nodes 15:12 whirm has drowning been disabled? 15:12 Peacock 87 and 88 are woods 15:12 hoodedice On the contraty, it's been enabled 15:12 hoodedice (In the latest git( 15:12 hoodedice *) 15:12 whirm how come I don't drown anymore in the latest git? 15:13 hoodedice PilzAdam 15:13 whirm (using technic) 15:13 PenguinDad BlockMen! 15:13 FreeFull Peacock: Yeah, but I want to keep stuff on my hotbar in the same place and it keeps moving 15:13 hoodedice RealBadAngel ! 15:13 PenguinDad whirm: technic game? 15:13 FreeFull Peacock: Could modify it at least so it doesn't do that if there is an empty slot right at the front 15:14 whirm PenguinDad: yes 15:14 Peacock not sure how to do that, might be easier to enable default inventory for specific players 15:15 hoodedice Inventory sure is slow 15:15 Peacock the worldeditor uses the first two slots so thats another reason as well for the shifting behaviour 15:15 Peacock best thing to do really is trashcan the inv, and add the nodes you need for a given project 15:16 FreeFull But I don't know what nodes I want 15:16 FreeFull Also, if I trashcan, I will lose all my oranges 15:16 Peacock could be tricky, because it's more efficient when im working on big projects 15:16 hoodedice Ya. 15:16 PenguinDad Then isn't technic game updated for the Drowning update by BlockMen. 15:16 FreeFull Since there don't seem to be chest 15:16 FreeFull Or wooden stairs 15:16 FreeFull I really want wooden stairs D: 15:17 Peacock why would anyone need a chest in creative mode? 15:17 Peacock 88 and 87 have stairs 15:17 hoodedice Best to take a screenshot of all nodes, and write the numbers for them 15:17 hoodedice Then, just use the search function 15:19 Peacock it takes some getting used to for sure, but i designed it to minimize repetitive actions (and my RSI lol) 15:20 Peacock my handwriting was terribly good to begin with, but now i can write my own prescriptions :p 15:20 Peacock *wasnt terribly good 15:22 hoodedice Revoke_fly 15:22 rubenwardy Hi all! 15:22 hoodedice I'll get back some other day 15:22 hoodedice Hey Ruben 15:22 hoodedice Bye Ruben 15:22 PenguinDad hi rubenwardy 15:23 Peacock done :-) 15:24 rubenwardy Just finished making my own A* class 15:24 rubenwardy (c++) 15:24 rubenwardy A* pathfinding that is 15:26 kaeza hey ruben 15:28 rubenwardy Hi kaeza 15:29 rubenwardy kaeza: pm 15:30 whirm PenguinDad: Ill wait for the update then, thanks 15:39 PilzAdam sfan5, Jordach, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104809#p104809 16:18 Jordach while the grinder is going, anything happen while i was gone? 16:20 * Jordach suggests a Multi Tool: Combine the four tools (axe, sword, shovel and pickaxe to dig every block) 16:21 PilzAdam there is a mod for that, but I dont like it 16:22 * Jordach throws a kitten at MinetestBot 16:23 kaeza a paxel 16:24 kaeza just like the old MESE pick 16:31 Jordach sfan5, lagging 16:32 sfan5 Jordach, investigating 16:32 Jordach sfan5, it went to 0.5 then dropped 16:32 sfan5 network upload is used 10- 25& 16:32 sfan5 s/&/%/ 16:33 HoleDigger Minetest still so laggy. D: 16:34 Calinou no u 16:34 HoleDigger Yeah.. 16:34 HoleDigger Running on 1-5 fps. 16:34 HoleDigger Need help. D: 16:34 Jordach it does serve you right for using windows 8 16:34 Calinou HoleDigger: lag != slow fps 16:35 Calinou get better hardware :P 16:35 HoleDigger My hardware should be able to run it smoothly. 16:35 Calinou what is it? 16:36 HoleDigger Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100 Calinou @ 1.850GHz 1.80 GHz 16:36 Calinou graphics card? 16:37 HoleDigger Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family 16:37 Calinou then it won't, which brings me to my next point: get better hardware :P 16:37 HoleDigger Really? 16:37 HoleDigger Why not? 16:38 HoleDigger I don't understand? 16:38 Calinou that's not powerful enough 16:38 HoleDigger Oh? 16:38 Kacey for what? 16:38 Calinou on top of that, intel doesn't ship drivers for your IGP on windows 8 16:38 Calinou Kacey: for Minetest 16:38 Calinou HoleDigger: by far 16:38 Kacey my E1 runs minetest just fine 16:38 Calinou "just fine" = 15 FPS with 32 view distance? 16:39 Kacey no 4 16:39 Calinou ... 16:39 Kacey -4 16:39 Kacey i have big fingers 16:39 HoleDigger Well you've been really helpful! 16:39 HoleDigger -.- 16:39 Kacey just fine = ~50 FPS with full view distance 16:39 Calinou yes, we've been 16:39 Calinou "get better hardware" is an helpful advice 16:39 Calinou Kacey: full view distance with 3 loaded blocks? :P 16:40 HoleDigger Surely, the error message that my OpenGL version is 1.1.0 not 1.2.0 comes into affect somewhere? 16:40 Calinou no 16:40 HoleDigger Wow. 16:40 Kacey no. even with moretrees and the wierd glitch it has been giving me i have 50 FPS 16:40 Kacey and that is ALOT of blocks loaded 16:41 HoleDigger This computer can play a mmorpg at 20 FPS stable. 16:41 Calinou "alot" isn't a word, "a lot" is 16:41 Calinou HoleDigger: that isn't a lot 16:41 HoleDigger Still.. 16:42 HoleDigger I'd expect it to run minetest at higher than 1 FPS. 16:42 Kacey i say alot 16:42 Calinou Minetest is probably more demanding than your MMORPG, then 16:43 HoleDigger Really?! 16:43 Calinou yes 16:43 Calinou it's not like you need a gaming PC to play Minetest anyway 16:43 Calinou a PC with a recent intel IGP will do fine :P 16:43 Jordach my pc is a PENTIUM 4 and i get 50fps 16:43 Calinou you have dedicated graphics 16:44 HoleDigger So I cannot even attempt to play minetest on this PC with my hardware? o.o 16:44 Calinou no 16:45 Jordach you could, but it'd be horrible 16:45 HoleDigger Not even a way to up my FPS by like 10? Without changing hardware ofc. 16:45 Jordach when i first played minetest, i got about 5-7 fps on a IGP on a AMD Duron (yes, this was 0.2 btw) 16:45 Calinou probably not 16:45 ruskie last time I played it on my e-350 I got like 20-30fps or so 16:46 Calinou intel didn't take their IGP seriously until Sandy Bridge 16:46 Jordach when i got my current PC i got 30-40 fps with the P4 P4 16:46 Jordach IGP* 16:46 Calinou that is, early 2011 16:50 HoleDigger_ This more demanding than mintest? Intel® Pentium® 4 at 1GHz, (Mid to High Range Dual-Core 2.5GHz CPU or better recommended.) 16:50 Calinou frequency means nothing these days 16:50 Calinou same for number of cores 16:50 HoleDigger_ What part accounts for how powerful it is then? 16:52 HoleDigger_ ... 16:53 HoleDigger_ Calinou, you there? 16:53 Calinou yes 16:53 HoleDigger_ What part accounts for how powerful it is then? 16:53 Calinou nothing, looking at benchmarks is more advisable 16:54 HoleDigger_ How did you work out that mine wasn't powerful enough then? 16:54 Jordach brb - food 16:55 Calinou HoleDigger_: looking at benchmarks? 16:55 HoleDigger_ Oh. 16:55 HoleDigger_ What are the benchmarks? 16:55 HoleDigger_ I'm retaded, k? 16:55 Calinou tests? 16:55 Calinou anyway, for CPU: dual core is highly recommended, and for graphics, it's best to have a decent dedicated graphics card 16:57 HoleDigger_ Dedicated graphics card? 16:59 HoleDigger_ Dw, I know. 17:01 HoleDigger_ If I played on Ubuntu, would that help? 17:02 Calinou HoleDigger_: no 17:02 Calinou it'd be worse 17:03 HoleDigger_ Earlier, I asked the same question. 17:03 HoleDigger_ I was told it would help if I did? 17:03 Calinou well, people who don't verify their facts 17:04 Calinou intel is slower on windows than on linux (though it is getting nearer), but their older IGPs really suck on linux 17:04 Tesseract I have a i5 with integrated Intel HD 5000 graphics and it plays smoothly. 17:04 Calinou HD5000 *surprised TF2 heavy* 17:04 Calinou Tesseract: that's a recent IGP 17:06 HoleDigger_ Well seems like I won't be playing minetest. ;-; 17:09 Jordach sfan5, can you make the grinders a bit faster 17:09 Jordach they also should use 50% of what a furnace uses 17:09 Jordach (i can get 12-13 items from a furnace, should be 6 per coal lump) 17:12 Jordach i can even check and moderate the forums and the grinder isnt even finished 17:27 Miner_48er how much improvement would be expected from multi threading? 17:28 Calinou do it then 17:28 Calinou multithreading would require a big rewrite 17:28 Calinou and the benefit may not be that big 17:30 Miner_48er num_emerge_threads 17:31 Calinou bugs with cave generation, iirc 17:31 Calinou and that doesn't do everything 17:32 * Jordach now remembers why my server locked up 17:32 Jordach emerge thread likes to lock up if it cant process fast enough 17:37 Miner_48er excess processors maybe using 20% of CPU 17:38 Miner_48er how often would a lock up be expected? 17:39 Jordach depends, over six hours with 5 other clients connected to my P4 server, it locked up about three times 17:40 Miner_48er what CPU? 17:40 Jordach Pentium 4 with Hyperthreading Tech 17:42 Peacock dont all p4s have hyperthreading? 17:42 Jordach late 2005 P4's do 17:43 Peacock hmm k mine was from 2006 17:46 Peacock ahh the days where people used to brag about having p2s, p3s and p4s lol now its 1 core, 2 cores, 4 lol 17:48 Peacock tech changes but convos stay the same lol 17:48 Miner_48er 8 core Intel Xeon Would it lock up? 17:48 Jordach probably not 17:50 Miner_48er what's the performance difference? 17:52 Jordach good performance: xeon is server tech 17:52 Jordach it's designed for punishment; compared to the P3 17:52 Jordach P4* 17:54 Calinou I bet it would lock up on any CPU 18:10 Tesseract http://xkcd.com/727/ 18:10 Jordach !title 18:10 MinetestBot Jordach: xkcd: Trade Expert 18:26 PilzAdam plol: http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/302/1337.png 18:26 PilzAdam Jordach, sfan5, ^ 18:28 Calinou BUILD_TYPE=Debug 18:28 Calinou ._. 18:29 iqualfragile PilzAdam: -.- 18:31 PenguinDad PilzAdam: plol 18:45 Prestotron562_ Hey homies 18:46 Prestotron562_ Whats up? 18:46 Prestotron562_ Anyone here? 18:46 lordcirth Jordach, Xeons are cool, but does AMD have a similar offering for servers? 18:46 Prestotron562_ Hey Jordach 18:47 lordcirth Oh right, Opteron, nvrm 18:47 Prestotron562_ Derpy derp 18:49 Prestotron562_ Very silent 18:50 Prestotron562_ So many users, so little chat XD 19:17 iqualfragile there should be somebody who pastes people like Prestotron562 some text telling them to be patient because this is irc and we are here to idle 19:17 Peacock staircase, 3rd take (better work this time lol) 19:42 thexyz > Here’s an idea. When they hit eleven, give them a plaintext file with ten-thousand WPA2 keys and tell them that the real one is in there somewhere. See how quickly they discover Python or Bash then. 19:43 Calinou ...or Java 19:43 * Calinou runs 19:43 thexyz that too 19:43 PenguinDad ...or Ruby 19:44 thexyz yeah, eleven-years old bruteforcing wpa2 password using ruby 19:44 thexyz > Google and Facebook give kids money if they manage to find and exploit security vulnerabilities in their systems. In schools we exclude kids for attempting to hack our systems. Is that right? 19:44 thexyz I love this article 19:44 thexyz http://www.coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-computers/ 19:45 PenguinDad !title 19:45 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Kids can't use computers... and this is why it should worry you - Coding 2 Learn 19:46 thexyz > Okay, so I can’t use 3G, it crashes when I try to make phone calls and the device runs so hot that when in my jacket pocket it seconds as an excellent nipple-warmer, but I can see the potential. 19:47 lordcirth thexyz, it's good 19:51 thexyz today I tried to boot linux with init set to /usr/bin/emacs23-nox 19:51 thexyz it didn't work 19:51 thexyz what am I doing wrong? 19:52 sfan5 can you execute the emacs23-nox normally? 19:52 proller python for kid? for make him brain-damaged? 19:53 PenguinDad xD 19:53 sfan5 hey 19:53 thexyz sfan5: yeah 19:53 sfan5 python is a nice language 19:53 sfan5 hm 19:53 thexyz proller: you meant "perl" 19:54 thexyz it says that /dev/tty doesn't exist 19:54 thexyz I'm not good with that booting stuff 19:54 sfan5 ^ that is set up by init 19:54 sfan5 /dev/* is usually set up by init 19:54 thexyz mg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mg_(editor) works though 19:54 proller thexyz, no, with perl he have chance 19:54 thexyz uh, sure 19:55 thexyz perl is a nice language 19:55 thexyz https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/util/master/master.cgi#L92 19:55 sfan5 thexyz: try editing init to launch /usr/bin/emacs23-nox after /dev and so on has been set up 19:56 thexyz sfan5: how? 19:56 thexyz I'm talking about kernel "init" param 19:56 sfan5 you don't have a normal init script? 19:56 thexyz the point was to replace init with emacs 19:57 thexyz so when you boot you only have emacs 19:57 thexyz and there's nothing but emacs 19:58 sfan5 hm 19:58 sfan5 try looking at the init of your computer copy the part of it that sets up /dev/* 20:00 thexyz i thought udev manages it 20:02 proller thexyz, this string especially designed for killing python "programmers" 20:02 thexyz okay, I'm dead now, I guess 20:03 thexyz I'm not sure why you hate it though 20:05 iqualfragile proller: you meant COBOL 20:05 Calinou COBOLstone 20:05 * Calinou runs 20:05 proller thexyz, its long story 20:06 iqualfragile and there was nothing but emacs 20:06 iqualfragile dat perl file hurty my eyes 20:08 proller python decides for me all, in perl i'm deciding 20:08 thexyz oh, okay 20:10 Peacock well by that logic wouldn't you prefer assembly? :p 20:11 sfan5 thexyz: not on every system... 20:12 PenguinDad Peacock: no by that he would prefer binary :P 20:12 Peacock punchcards? :p 20:12 sfan5 I suggest building a system image with buildroot and then installing emacs into it and modifying the init script 20:13 Peacock i thought emacs already was an operating system XD 20:13 iqualfragile it is 20:13 iqualfragile at least micrognuemacs 20:13 Peacock can even watch your favorite ASCII-porn on it :p 20:13 sfan5 ^ 20:14 iqualfragile wtf? there is ascii-porn 20:14 iqualfragile … rule 34 i assume 20:15 iqualfragile oh dear, i will not enter this page: rule34.xxx 20:15 Jordach sfan5 agrees with pron 20:15 sfan5 Is there even a way to disagree with it? 20:15 Jordach plot twist: did that spam you reported .... contain .... boobs? 20:15 thexyz iqualfragile: 10/10 would visit again 20:15 * sfan5 plol's 20:15 Jordach plol 20:15 Peacock "will highly recommend to friends and family" 20:15 Peacock maybe not family 20:16 thexyz well yeah 20:16 iqualfragile thexyz: well, i did not visit it, but i was kind of shure that everybody else would :P 20:16 sfan5 !title 20:16 MinetestBot sfan5: minetest/util/master/master.cgi at master · minetest/minetest · GitHub 20:16 Jordach i found a new pastebin for porn: jizzbin.com 20:17 Jordach they even do that ascii porn thexyz will probably be watching :P 20:17 Peacock "is that a dude or a chick" "i cant tell its just a bunch of squiggles!" :P 20:18 sfan5 s/squiggles/characters/ 20:18 Peacock ascii-porn would have to be unicode tho :p 20:18 iqualfragile it will be hard to s/glxgears/waylandgears/ 20:18 iqualfragile in my head 20:19 Peacock dont forget mirgears :p 20:19 sfan5 don't forget asciigears :P 20:19 iqualfragile /ignore Peacock 20:19 Peacock aside, why would they name a display thingie after a defunct space station that caught fire? 20:20 iqualfragile well… think about it 20:20 Peacock touche 20:20 iqualfragile because it does not work well and there will be a mob of angry nerds with torches 20:21 iqualfragile and by torches i mean lightsablers (wtf, we call those lazerswords) 20:21 Peacock either that or ittl set your gfx card on fire :p 20:21 PenguinDad iqualfragile: there is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASCII_porn 20:22 sfan5 !title 20:22 MinetestBot sfan5: ASCII porn - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 20:23 sfan5 "ASCII porn was the world's first internet pornography" 20:23 iqualfragile sfan5: you know, its quite easy to guess the title of an wikipedia page 20:23 sfan5 iqualfragile: nah 20:28 Miner_48er what would be the best conf for a MT server? excellent hardware and bandwidth 20:29 LazyJ Good enough hardware, at least. :P 20:29 sfan5 Miner_48er: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1825 20:29 LazyJ Vanessa's rig has us beat. ;) 20:31 LazyJ Yup, those settings are already in place. 20:31 VanessaE hi :) 20:31 LazyJ Howdy :) 20:31 PenguinDad hello Vanessa 20:31 Miner_48er those are over a year old any new setting tweaks? 20:31 VanessaE I don't use those on mine, that post is so old now I don't know that those settings would help anymore 20:32 LazyJ Miner and I are wondering what else we can do config wise to correct sever lag or slow-down in the server. 20:32 Miner_48er what settings do you use? 20:33 VanessaE Miner_48er: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5967677/ 20:33 Peacock hm, right mouse button went from not clicking, to clicking twice... more violence? 20:34 sfan5 what the duck 20:34 sfan5 there is 1200 MB RAM free and my system is shitting its pants (= almost hanging up) 20:38 LazyJ VanessaE: Our config atm, http://pastebin.com/UdkFNih3 20:41 Calinou "num_emerge_threads = 4" don't you have 6 cores? :p 20:41 Calinou (to VanessaE) 20:41 thexyz it's 6 AMD cores 20:42 VanessaE yp 20:42 VanessaE yep 20:42 lordcirth thexyz, only Bulldozer on onward have less power than their specs imply, right? 20:42 VanessaE but you're supposed to cut it short by 2 or something 20:42 VanessaE ask hmmmm 20:42 Calinou thexyz: 6 actual FPUs, phenom x6 20:42 Calinou not a bulldozer/piledriver 20:42 VanessaE (this is a PheonmII X6 1055T) 20:43 Calinou lordcirth: they do have 4/6/8 physical cores, but only 2/3/4 FPUs 20:43 Calinou this makes them good for multitasking 20:43 VanessaE (PhenomII*) 20:43 Calinou (better than intel's HT) 20:43 lordcirth Calinou, interesting 20:43 lordcirth VanessaE, They're a great line of CPUs, I have 1090t here and I love it 20:43 Calinou http://www.pcgameshardware.de/CPU-Hardware-154106/Specials/CPU-Multitasking-Test-1075340/ 20:44 Calinou (german, but still interesting, read the graphs) 20:44 LazyJ Does Minetest keep track of every generated node at all times or just the ones within a specified area of active players? 20:47 VanessaE that was weird. 20:47 VanessaE my computer just went kaboom 20:47 lordcirth VanessaE, how so? 20:47 VanessaE hard locked for no reason 20:47 lordcirth VanessaE, OS? 20:47 Calinou fglrx user problems 20:48 VanessaE lordcirth: Debian 7 20:48 LazyJ NSA snooping :P 20:48 Calinou don't you use sid? 20:48 VanessaE and yeah, probably fglrx's fault. 20:48 Calinou graphic driver is often the cause of lockups 20:48 lordcirth VanessaE, have you tried running the FOSS drivers? minetest isn't all that intensive if you turn a few things down. 20:49 VanessaE hooho 20:49 Calinou she tried 20:49 VanessaE you're funny :) 20:49 lordcirth Not sure about radeon, but nouveau isn't bad 20:50 kahrl the FOSS driver works for me 20:50 kahrl but I tend to run the deptest game that registers a total of 1 node 20:50 VanessaE last time I used it, I got between a third and half the performance of fglrx 20:50 Calinou "nouveau isn't bad" you didn't use it on fermi/kepler then 20:50 lordcirth I ran a fully-FOSS system for a couple of months. I got along pretty well. 20:50 Calinou my graphics card runs at 1/7 of its possible speed under nouveau 20:51 lordcirth Calinou, Oh I know. I got a 650 and it didn't work. I meant to get a 550, but they ran out and I got upsold before I checked compat 20:51 Calinou you don't buy fermi when kepler is out 20:51 Calinou that is stupid 20:51 Calinou and the 5xx (fermi) still can't be reclocked 20:52 lordcirth It stayed at 10 FPS, whether on desktop or gaming. very strange 20:52 Calinou 24 FPS on sauerbraten with nouveau, 690 with nvidia 20:52 Calinou didn't even try tesseract with nouveau, but it's really slow on tesseract, I tried on a laptop 20:52 lordcirth Calinou, according to benchmarks it was a good deal at the time. No wonder they were gone when I got there. 20:53 Calinou the 650 is still a lot better than the 550 in every way 20:53 Calinou when you buy new, you buy the latest gen, it works like that :P 20:53 lordcirth I ran Alien Arena on software rendering for a while. 20:53 lordcirth Calinou, except when Bulldozer came out :P 20:53 Calinou ideally, wait a bit so that prices drop 20:54 Calinou that's what I did 20:54 lordcirth Calinou, A solid 1090t for $100 or bulldozer for $200 - quick decision 20:54 Calinou bulldozer was epic fail, that's true 20:54 Calinou intel was a better choice :P 20:55 lordcirth I was perfectly happy with a 1090t over Intel. They're good solid chips that overclock well, everything unlocked 20:55 Calinou if it's $100, it was probably on sale or used then 20:55 Calinou and overclocking is like picking pennies of the street 20:57 lordcirth Calinou, I didn't get mine for $100, I bought before Bulldozer, but I saw $120 just before they went out of stock. Wouldn't be surprised if you could find one for $100 on clearance somewhere 20:57 lordcirth overclocking is a great way to get 1 more year out of an old chip 20:57 * Calinou has a 2600K right now 20:58 Calinou it is enough for me by far :p 20:58 lordcirth Calinou, and when it isn't, OC it 20% instead of replacing. If it burns, you were going to replace it anyway. If not, you don't need to replace it for a while longer 21:04 Niften Hey 21:05 Calinou lordcirth: OCing diesels the boot 21:05 Calinou so no 21:05 Calinou and it makes stuff hotter and noisier 21:05 lordcirth Calinou, diesels? 21:05 Calinou I'd rather replace it and not deal with that stuff, not to mention K CPUs being more expensive 21:05 Calinou diesels = boots, shut downs, boots again 21:05 Calinou most mobos do that when OCing for unknown reasons 21:06 Calinou OCing also requires testing stability, which reduces the actual performance improvement 21:06 lordcirth Calinou, haven't seen it myself. I got a nice motherboard, I OC'd from 3.2 Ghz up to 3.6 for a while, no problems. 21:06 iqualfragile i am sorry, but is there realy anybody out there whose cpu is the bottleneck 21:06 iqualfragile (well ignore atom) 21:06 Calinou it's like buying a 10% speed upgrade in TF2 MvM and believing it'll help you win waves with a bad team 21:07 lordcirth iqualfragile, for playing minetest, probably not. But for other things, sure 21:07 iqualfragile lordcirth: well, i would actualy reverse this statement 21:07 iqualfragile playing minetest can be quite cpu expensive 21:07 Calinou due to how small the improvement of x86 CPUs is these days, I should keep this one for a while. 21:07 Calinou I'm not CPU limited in anything I do 21:08 iqualfragile thats my point 21:08 sfan5 really? then mine bitcoins with your CPU 21:08 Calinou not profitable, eats bandwidth 21:08 iqualfragile i am ram bound right now 21:08 iqualfragile (just 4GB) 21:08 Niften Minetest is really lightweight; shoudln't be CPU intensive at all. 21:08 Calinou I have 8GB 21:08 Niften *shouldn't 21:08 Calinou by today's standards, it is 21:09 Calinou it'll run fine at max settings on a celeron G1610 + GTX 650 21:09 VanessaE am I back now or is it gonna crash again? 21:09 VanessaE (I fear a pending HD failure) 21:10 lordcirth iqualfragile, Most things that are CPU-bound for me are the single-threaded ones, since I have 6 (real) cores. Anything that multithreads properly is really fast 21:10 FreeFull Minecraft runs fine on my laptop 21:10 * sfan5 wants 8GB ram instead of 4GB 21:10 Calinou AMD is quite worse at single thread than intel 21:10 * VanessaE runs a quick (incremental) backup just to be safe 21:11 * sfan5 was just hearing a song by Justin Bieber(by accident, webradio) and I instatly killall -9 vlc 21:11 lordcirth VanessaE, have you checked SMART data? 21:11 sfan5 *instantly 21:11 VanessaE lordcirth: not yet, I haven't had an opportunity as this just now started 21:12 Calinou sfan5: better than me 21:12 Calinou when I heard a random MLP song playing, I kept playing TF2. 21:12 Calinou this was because I opened mcbans.com... :x 21:12 Calinou they put that in autoplay 21:13 Calinou lordcirth: you should use Windows 8, SMART is disabled by default on PCs with Windows 8 preinstalled :P 21:13 FreeFull sfan5: Fun thing about killall is that with some operating systems, it will literally kill all processes 21:13 Calinou at least on linux it does what it is supposed to do 21:13 Tesseract sfan5: I got 52 bones from two stacks, seems the duplication glitch got them, they were probably on the edge of the loaded blocks... 21:14 lordcirth Calinou, why would they disable it? 21:14 Calinou saves 2 to 3 seconds of boot time 21:14 Calinou the less mobo features enabled, the quicker the POST 21:14 lordcirth Calinou, wait, checking smart on boot takes time, or having the HDD enable smart? 21:15 Calinou enabling SMART takes some time, so MS disables it on preinstalls 21:15 Calinou at least on certain PCs 21:15 lordcirth Calinou, leaving you open to sudden HDD failure. Great 21:16 Calinou yeah, MS logic 21:16 MaxCZ Hi 21:17 lordcirth Calinou, well, they'll help you with your HDD failure for a fee, I'm sure. But that doesn't help once the data is gone. 21:17 FreeFull Calinou: I think killing all processes is the original behaviour 21:17 FreeFull And I know that's what it will do in Solaris 21:17 FreeFull I prefer using pkill over killall anyway 21:17 kahrl you could just ask the NSA for a backup of your data 21:17 lordcirth Anyway, I'm not touching Win8 with a 10 foot pole regardless 21:17 lordcirth kahrl, lol 21:18 Calinou better use plol over lolall 21:18 MaxCZ sfan5 21:24 Jordach should minetest dev group apply for a hostmask on freenode 21:26 Tesseract Jordach: Is GMS finished? 21:27 Calinou Jordach: not needed imo 21:27 Calinou also, wasn't group registration disabled? 21:28 Tesseract Jordach: aten is down, you will need to reconnect. 21:30 Tesseract DNS is updated, but it will take a while to propagate... 21:33 Tesseract I would like the group registration, if it were an option. 21:42 sfan5 FreeFull: e.g. solaris 21:54 * Jordach is going to finish the Sam II statue 22:00 Jordach sfan5, one hour until UTC goes to the next day 22:00 Jordach (so the topic has to change again) 22:00 * Jordach gives a cake to MinetestBot 22:01 FreeFull sfan5: I did say Solaris 22:02 * Tesseract gives a googol of cakes to MinetestBot 22:02 MinetestBot nom nom nom nom 22:02 Tesseract Gah, waiting for timeouts again. 22:03 Tesseract That should hold you for a few milion years. :-) 22:04 * Jordach can make a diamond factory with pipeworks - sfan5 22:05 * Tesseract too 22:05 Jordach outbound pipe from the loggers; into both furnace slots 22:05 Jordach (one tree for fuel; the others for burning, then re-fueling the coal) 22:06 Jordach then coal goes into a autocrafter: 9 of them for a coal block; then into a furnace grinder 22:06 Jordach and then out into a auto crafter for diamond blocks 22:08 Tesseract Jordach: I don't think crushers support tubes ATM. 22:08 Jordach but i doubt sfan5 would install pipeworks 22:15 PenguinDad I have a bug on my screen :/ 22:16 Jordach a literal bug 22:16 Jordach haha 22:17 PenguinDad crazy the bug likes Jordach's name :D 22:20 PenguinDad Got to go 22:22 Jordach D: 23:24 Exio4 hi 23:55 Exio4 here! my first C program! http://dpaste.com/1337561/ 23:56 * Exio4 waits for any C coder around 23:56 Kray what is this shit 23:56 Kray macros are not functions 23:56 Exio4 xD 23:57 Exio4 haha 23:57 Exio4 isn't it cute? <3 23:57 Exio4 le macro hell!