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| 00:05 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: HDX now supports building_blocks :-) |
| 00:07 |
PilzAdam |
HDX is the most up-to date TP of Minetest, it supports standards before they are pushed to upstream |
| 00:07 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 00:07 |
PilzAdam |
(e.g. bumpmaps, screenshot.png and info.txt) |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
well it does sometimes :D |
| 00:42 |
PilzAdam |
can someone ban him for this signature already? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104318#p104318 |
| 00:43 |
Menche |
so, has he finished that mod? it sounds like he says that he has, but what is he saying about "week or a few days"? |
| 00:44 |
Menche |
there should be some rule about only announcing a new mod when you have something to show. at least screenshots or some organized plan. |
| 00:46 |
PilzAdam |
"organized plan" as in https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6835 |
| 00:46 |
Menche |
lol |
| 00:47 |
Menche |
"someone to be in charge of all the mess in init lua and all" |
| 00:47 |
Menche |
i read that as: "i need someone to do it all for me" |
| 00:48 |
Niften |
. |
| 00:48 |
Niften |
hehe |
| 00:51 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: why not just strip the fonts/colors and delete the link to the not-yet-existent project? |
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| 00:53 |
Niften |
Jesus christ. I found a "Comes alive" mod. |
| 00:53 |
Niften |
"In this mod you can have sons,Wife And More." |
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| 00:54 |
Menche |
"that mod that all people know"? |
| 00:54 |
Niften |
<3 |
| 00:54 |
Niften |
Yep. |
| 00:55 |
Niften |
I think he's regularly sexually disturbed. |
| 00:55 |
Niften |
o.o |
| 00:55 |
Menche |
so, it adds family members? |
| 00:55 |
Peacock |
there must be something up with someone thinking about voxelized sex lol |
| 00:55 |
Menche |
i wonder how you get children... |
| 00:56 |
Peacock |
by getting your blocks off? lol |
| 00:56 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: no different than all those printer-ASCII-art pictures back in the 70's ;) |
| 00:56 |
Menche |
on_rightclick comes_alive:wife? |
| 00:56 |
VanessaE |
*groan* |
| 00:56 |
Peacock |
my father printed those lol |
| 00:56 |
Evergreen |
I doubt the guy is even going to finish the mod |
| 00:56 |
Peacock |
dot matrix printers... the noisiest sons of ... lol |
| 00:57 |
Peacock |
who does he remind me of |
| 00:57 |
Menche |
"'m submit this Topic because i'm finish this Mod." has he or hasn't he finished it? i'm going to go with "hasn't". |
| 00:57 |
Peacock |
theres another guy that talks like that |
| 00:57 |
Menche |
Likwid H-Craft ? |
| 00:57 |
Peacock |
i think so |
| 00:58 |
Menche |
Likwid H-Craft, adds, a lot of extra, commas, when he writes |
| 00:58 |
VanessaE |
oh G*d anyone but him |
| 00:58 |
Peacock |
i sometimes wonder if these accounts are created to troll us lol |
| 00:58 |
Niften |
xD |
| 00:58 |
Peacock |
oh i see paramats' working on a light version of jeija's weather mod :-) |
| 00:59 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, my theory on that is that they at first dont care, then they try to be better but dont succeed and then they start actively trolling |
| 00:59 |
PilzAdam |
since they are sad they are idiots |
| 01:00 |
Peacock |
yeah but the post are so stupid sometimes i have a hard time believing its natural lol |
| 01:00 |
Peacock |
unless the mother drank heavily during pregnancy lol |
| 01:01 |
Menche |
add a quick grammar test after creating an account. If a new member's score is too low, they can't post in the English section. |
| 01:01 |
Menche |
probably get rid of spambots too |
| 01:01 |
Peacock |
that might be viewed as racist :p |
| 01:01 |
PilzAdam |
so people who cant speak English are an own "race"? |
| 01:02 |
Peacock |
aparently in Quebec yeah (i think its stupid too) they complain about "racism" against english |
| 01:02 |
Menche |
lol, i didn't know that language was a defining characteristic of ethicity |
| 01:02 |
PilzAdam |
I dont think that people really understand what racism is |
| 01:02 |
Peacock |
well to canadians apparently any minority is now a race lol |
| 01:02 |
Peacock |
insert one of those "you keep using that word" memes lol |
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| 01:03 |
Peacock |
we even have an english rights movement now, (they seem to forget they had most of the rights for the past 300 years) :p |
| 01:04 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: check your register_node() usage, building_blocks doesn't actually work (the usual complaints about needing : prefixes) |
| 01:07 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: full error text: http://pastebin.com/U8dkKTE2 |
| 01:09 |
Peacock |
hm, turns out pulseaudio isn't any less choppy/crackly on my new rig than it is on the p4 |
| 01:09 |
Peacock |
guess network sound is out |
| 01:10 |
VanessaE |
bah, pulse is a solution looking for a problem (that was already long since solved) |
| 01:10 |
Peacock |
i never understood what it fixed either lol |
| 01:11 |
Peacock |
every distro has a wiki or thread dedicated to removing it |
| 01:11 |
Peacock |
yet it still comes default :/ |
| 01:11 |
Niften |
hehe |
| 01:11 |
kahrl |
everyone hates PA :/ |
| 01:11 |
Menche |
i don't have it |
| 01:12 |
Peacock |
well it does network and bluetooth audio, but if the audio quality is crap, its not much use is it lol |
| 01:12 |
PilzAdam |
PA as in PilzAdam or PulseAudio? |
| 01:12 |
Peacock |
PulseAudio :p |
| 01:12 |
Menche |
of course, Arch doesn't come with a whole lot of anything by default |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: yes :) |
| 01:12 |
VanessaE |
</imp> |
| 01:12 |
Menche |
you could probably insert either there right now, lol |
| 01:12 |
PilzAdam |
I got random highlights of people complaining about PulseAudio in other channels |
| 01:12 |
PilzAdam |
just because Minetest people are too lazy to type out my nick |
| 01:13 |
Peacock |
Arch.. as in Arch Nemesis when it comes to system upgrades lol |
| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
Menche: the way I've heard people lambaste it, it's a wonder Arch even runs at *all* by default : |
| 01:13 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 01:13 |
Menche |
huh? i use it and don't have any problems |
| 01:13 |
Peacock |
docs have become a mix of /anouncement threads and "this section is out of date" wiki pages :p |
| 01:14 |
Peacock |
a year ago i loved it tho |
| 01:14 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, both |
| 01:14 |
Menche |
stilll working fine for me |
| 01:14 |
NekoGloop |
everyone hates both |
| 01:14 |
Menche |
-l |
| 01:14 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, you are slow today |
| 01:14 |
Peacock |
you using proprietary graphics? |
| 01:14 |
Menche |
yeah |
| 01:14 |
NekoGloop |
I am busy |
| 01:14 |
Menche |
was using nouveau earlier |
| 01:14 |
Peacock |
and it doesn't break everytime you update? |
| 01:15 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, busy with kitten stuff? |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
I think I'll stick to debian-based distros, at least I can usually fix something that breaks :-) |
| 01:15 |
NekoGloop |
busy with coding things |
| 01:15 |
Menche |
it's a little tricky to update with AUR versions of the nvidia drivers |
| 01:15 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop coding? |
| 01:15 |
Peacock |
the main advantage with debian based is synaptic and more stability |
| 01:15 |
PilzAdam |
must be a bug in env |
| 01:15 |
NekoGloop |
glooptest is being.. odd. |
| 01:15 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: jackd > pulseaudio |
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| 01:15 |
Menche |
done right it doesn't break anything though |
| 01:15 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: he's working on another variation for the output of his kitten generator |
| 01:16 |
Peacock |
arch without AUR sucks, which is why when packer broke i gave up on it lol |
| 01:16 |
NekoGloop |
incorrect |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 01:16 |
Menche |
i use yaourt |
| 01:16 |
Menche |
i didn't really like packer as well |
| 01:16 |
Peacock |
which aint in the pacman repos either |
| 01:16 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, http://z0r.de/5216 |
| 01:16 |
Menche |
not really difficult to build it though |
| 01:16 |
bas080 |
i convinced my minecraft friends that minetest is more awesome with the Volcano mod! :) |
| 01:16 |
Peacock |
the minute i have to start compiling random shit just to get a usable system its a deal breaker |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
G*D DAMN IT |
| 01:17 |
VanessaE |
warn me next time you link to a site with sound |
| 01:17 |
Menche |
why? i didn't have any problems with it |
| 01:17 |
Peacock |
besides, crunchbang and archbang are pretty damn close to identical |
| 01:17 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: > advantage, > synaptic |
| 01:17 |
Peacock |
archbang is based on crunchbang |
| 01:17 |
bas080 |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/screenshot_1447696868.png |
| 01:18 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, thats the sound upgrade to the kitten generator |
| 01:18 |
Peacock |
i find synaptic/apt has better handling of dependencies when it comes to system updates |
| 01:18 |
Exio4 |
more stability comes from "paranoic people" like the debian devs that keep stuff outdated from versions that are 0.0.1 with bugfixes from 9.9.9 |
| 01:18 |
Peacock |
well you got testing repos for that |
| 01:18 |
Peacock |
bleeding edge also means you're the first to file bug reports - which are often denied until the other dists catch up |
| 01:18 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: well at least it doesn't play that annoying-as-hell ringtone one of my friend's kids has... "meow meow meow and a meow meow meow" or some such |
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| 01:19 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: suddenly: gentoo |
| 01:19 |
Exio4 |
i guess you never had the enough pacience for try it |
| 01:19 |
Peacock |
ive heard alot of people say gentoo is a PITA |
| 01:19 |
Menche |
it should generate pink poptart kittens and play the nyancat song |
| 01:19 |
Exio4 |
it is the initial pita of not being used to it |
| 01:19 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, watch it til the end |
| 01:19 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: it's not that it's a pain in the ass, it's just that no matter how fast your computer and network are, it always takes three days to install :) |
| 01:19 |
Peacock |
patience for operating systems? it should just work, if it doesn't, the devs are in the wrong field lol |
| 01:20 |
Exio4 |
VanessaE: it took 7 days for a full-"complete" install on my netbook |
| 01:20 |
Exio4 |
(was usable 8 hours after starting though) |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: no thanks :P |
| 01:20 |
VanessaE |
Exio4: heh |
| 01:20 |
Exio4 |
full 7 days is firefox, qt4, kde4, openbox, a dozen of libraries & daemons |
| 01:20 |
Exio4 |
wicd, python, perl, and shits |
| 01:21 |
Exio4 |
no, qt3+qt4 + kde3 |
| 01:21 |
Peacock |
sucks that ubuntu went all apple, otherwise around 2007-08 it was the simplest one to install, update and use |
| 01:21 |
Exio4 |
i installed kde4 a bit after that |
| 01:21 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: ubuntu *was* the "easy-to-install debian" |
| 01:21 |
Peacock |
thats what i said :p |
| 01:21 |
Peacock |
more or less |
| 01:21 |
Exio4 |
even debian is uber-easy to install and mantain |
| 01:21 |
Exio4 |
yeah |
| 01:21 |
PilzAdam |
wubi is still easy as.... dunno |
| 01:21 |
Exio4 |
> wubi |
| 01:21 |
Exio4 |
> 2013 |
| 01:21 |
Exio4 |
it is deprecated, as far as i know |
| 01:21 |
Peacock |
yeah but it always irked me that they had to rename a bunch of stuff because they were anal about trademarks/copyrights/w/e |
| 01:22 |
Exio4 |
fwiw, gentoo is a PITA when your network is overly shitty and your cpu is from 1997 |
| 01:22 |
Exio4 |
outside that; it isn't that bad |
| 01:22 |
Peacock |
i dont have anything *that* old lol |
| 01:22 |
Exio4 |
but it is worth it imo |
| 01:22 |
Exio4 |
portage is amazing |
| 01:23 |
Peacock |
is gentoo the one that compiles stuff specifically for your architexture? |
| 01:23 |
Peacock |
*architecture |
| 01:23 |
Exio4 |
yes, but it doesn't provide a 500x speed up :P |
| 01:23 |
Menche |
gentoo compiles everything |
| 01:23 |
Exio4 |
you have some -bins packages |
| 01:23 |
Peacock |
yeah, that sounded like a long process |
| 01:23 |
Exio4 |
like libreoffice, and firefox |
| 01:23 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: i will say one thing |
| 01:23 |
Peacock |
ugh, libreoffice lol didn't sun release openoffice back into the wild? |
| 01:24 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: think gentoo as the rolling release archlinux can't be |
| 01:24 |
Exio4 |
it is stable, and bleeding edge where you may want |
| 01:24 |
kahrl |
I use gentoo, not because of any speedup, but because I can remove dependencies from packages thanks to USE flags |
| 01:25 |
Exio4 |
99.99% of gentoo users ^ |
| 01:25 |
Peacock |
may give it a try one day, but installing the more mainstream distros makes enough of an alcoholic out of me :P |
| 01:25 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 01:25 |
PilzAdam |
I just read "trolling release" |
| 01:25 |
PilzAdam |
we definitely need that for Minetest |
| 01:25 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 01:25 |
Exio4 |
the king of tweakability (did i spell this right? ;P) is gentoo |
| 01:26 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: we have you |
| 01:26 |
Exio4 |
we don't need more :D |
| 01:26 |
Exio4 |
i'm using debian sid here because network problems though :( |
| 01:26 |
PilzAdam |
and its only the beginning of my evil masterplan |
| 01:27 |
Peacock |
with landmine being minetests' chief master-baiter |
| 01:27 |
Exio4 |
kahrl: the main reason i used gentoo was i could have a 'mixed' system without breaking everything :P |
| 01:27 |
Peacock |
not sure we need more trollin :p |
| 01:27 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, you do realise that this is trolling at its glance: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104332#p104332 ? |
| 01:27 |
Peacock |
i do like CB + xfce |
| 01:27 |
Exio4 |
dwm here ;P |
| 01:27 |
Peacock |
though my xfce version is slightly out of date, no auto-tiling :( |
| 01:28 |
Exio4 |
kahrl: never asked, what is your desktop enviroment/window manager? (prefered, or whatever :P) |
| 01:28 |
kahrl |
Exio4: xfce |
| 01:28 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam: maybe, but I still respond to such stuff seriously, to a point. |
| 01:28 |
Exio4 |
aww.. |
| 01:28 |
kahrl |
used to run a mixture of lxde/xfce, but it had too many bugs |
| 01:28 |
Exio4 |
this is like i'm the only who doesn't use xfce or kde D: |
| 01:28 |
Peacock |
p4 i left openbox on it, most important for VLC to run smoothly, especially with alot of bluray movies |
| 01:29 |
* Menche |
uses i3 |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
nothing pisses a troll off more than not being able to actually elicit the response they wanted :) |
| 01:29 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, "the point" was reached when he created that full caps topic and asked the question for the third time |
| 01:29 |
PilzAdam |
after getting an answer |
| 01:29 |
Peacock |
that MEGA dude? |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
for YOU, yes. |
| 01:29 |
Menche |
LOL: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104330#p104330 |
| 01:29 |
Menche |
"what is a text editor" |
| 01:29 |
VanessaE |
my limit goes a bit beyond yours. |
| 01:30 |
Exio4 |
i will try the the "lxde-qt" that will coom soon-ish |
| 01:30 |
Menche |
razor? |
| 01:30 |
Peacock |
lol you know how it says 'developer" under some user names, it should say Troll under some other users lol |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 01:31 |
Exio4 |
Menche: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQxNjA |
| 01:31 |
Peacock |
i would like mine to read "Queen of Summertime" but i know that won't happen :p |
| 01:31 |
Peacock |
or Klingon Chancellor |
| 01:32 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 01:34 |
Evergreen |
Did you think my response was fitting to that "what is a text editor" post? :P |
| 01:35 |
Evergreen |
The first thing that went through my mind when I read that was "Are you freaking kidding me" |
| 01:36 |
Exio4 |
it is like asking your name |
| 01:36 |
Exio4 |
"what is my name" |
| 01:36 |
Exio4 |
:> |
| 01:36 |
Peacock |
or listing your local ip in servers thread lol |
| 01:37 |
Evergreen |
sfan5: Thank you for pointing me to Geany, it is going to be my main code editor from now on |
| 01:37 |
Peacock |
i had geany preinstalled, though i much prefer gedit |
| 01:38 |
Evergreen |
:o |
| 01:38 |
Peacock |
geany has a nasty habit of re-opening every last file ever edited |
| 01:38 |
Evergreen |
Just close the tab when you are done |
| 01:38 |
Evergreen |
:P |
| 01:39 |
Evergreen |
If you on't like that, just use SciTE or smething |
| 01:39 |
Evergreen |
*don't |
| 01:39 |
Peacock |
gedit's fine, its got diff color schemes and all the highlighting |
| 01:39 |
Evergreen |
I only use gedit for .txt files |
| 01:39 |
Evergreen |
The spacing in gedit is terrible though |
| 01:40 |
Peacock |
tab spacing? |
| 01:40 |
Evergreen |
It makes minetest code really hard to read |
| 01:40 |
Peacock |
you can adjust tab spacing, i set mine to 3 |
| 01:40 |
Peacock |
a good monospace font helps too |
| 01:40 |
Evergreen |
I already have gedit, and I am not using it for code. You can't convince me of that. :P |
| 01:41 |
Evergreen |
Also, a good text editor that is supposed to build upon gedit is medit |
| 01:41 |
Peacock |
not trying :P but theres no way in hell ill use geany either :p |
| 01:41 |
Evergreen |
Lol, first OS wars, now text editor wars |
| 01:42 |
Peacock |
we had a phonewar too i think |
| 01:42 |
Evergreen |
The wars we have on IRC.... |
| 01:42 |
Peacock |
its opensource lol |
| 01:43 |
Peacock |
everything turns into a debate |
| 01:43 |
Evergreen |
What I say to that is: People us what they use for a reason. Certain programs are better for doing different things |
| 01:43 |
Evergreen |
*use |
| 01:44 |
Peacock |
until people start mixing politics and different notions of freedom, then it gets tricky lol |
| 01:44 |
Evergreen |
And I can't even begin to describe how much my friend hates windows. He won't even talk about it |
| 01:44 |
Evergreen |
True |
| 01:49 |
Peacock |
im pretty sure the purists fap to a Trisquell install since flash itself is evil XD |
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| 02:06 |
bas080 |
i broke every texture guideline, http://dev.minetest.net/Visual_style_guidelines |
| 02:07 |
Menche |
not that there are that many texture guidelines |
| 02:08 |
Menche |
you use semi-transparency? |
| 02:08 |
bas080 |
yes |
| 02:08 |
Menche |
doesn't that glitch? |
| 02:08 |
bas080 |
for leaves and glass |
| 02:08 |
bas080 |
yes |
| 02:09 |
bas080 |
Sometimes though. |
| 02:09 |
bas080 |
not always, |
| 02:09 |
bas080 |
it's hard to explain |
| 02:09 |
Menche |
didn't think that minetest could handle semi transparency at all |
| 02:09 |
hdastwb |
it doesn't look that bad for leaves… |
| 02:09 |
Menche |
at least i remember semi-transparent pixels accidentaly left in sidegrass textures |
| 02:10 |
hdastwb |
not very ideal for framed glass |
| 02:10 |
sdzen |
did someone say scite? |
| 02:11 |
sdzen |
Menche I believe they are usable now |
| 02:11 |
sdzen |
but.... |
| 02:11 |
sdzen |
still not something I would reccomend for textures |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
it works well enough for now |
| 02:11 |
sdzen |
:) |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
but it's glitchy |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
its* |
| 02:12 |
sdzen |
bah, who needs alpha! |
| 02:12 |
Menche |
it's beta not to use alpha? |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: anyone who wants to make glass that isn't completely transparent :) |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
Menche: yeah but make sure your monitor's gamma is adjusted properly, otherwise... |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
ahem |
| 02:13 |
* VanessaE |
goes back to her room now. |
| 02:13 |
sdzen |
did I break anything else mistress? |
| 02:14 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:14 |
Peacock |
alpha didn't work in 0.4.6 :/ |
| 02:14 |
Peacock |
dont know if it was actually in there tho lol |
| 02:25 |
bas080 |
good night people! |
| 02:44 |
harrison |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhOqZrLyP0Y&feature=youtu.be |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
!title |
| 02:45 |
MinetestBot |
VanessaE: cachivorous spasim - YouTube |
| 02:50 |
* NekoGloop |
pats VanessaE's head |
| 02:50 |
VanessaE |
RAWR! *bites* |
| 02:51 |
* Kacey |
pokes his head in for a bit |
| 02:53 |
NekoGloop |
OWIE |
| 02:54 |
NekoGloop |
Kacey help me it bit me :< |
| 02:54 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 02:54 |
Kacey |
im having problems moving around... |
| 02:54 |
* Kacey |
reaches to help Neko |
| 02:54 |
Kacey |
stupid freaking toes... |
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* NekoGloop |
dies |
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kahrl |
VanessaE: is your server still using remote media? |
| 03:20 |
VanessaE |
I turned it off for now |
| 03:20 |
VanessaE |
shall I re-enable it? |
| 03:20 |
kahrl |
if you can |
| 03:20 |
VanessaE |
sure, sec. |
| 03:20 |
kahrl |
don't bother kicking off tons of people |
| 03:21 |
sdzen |
tons is a relative word :) |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
with that bug in people joining/timing out, I'll be lucky if there's more than one... |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
ok, it is restarted with remote media enabled. |
| 03:21 |
kahrl |
hmm, I see |
| 03:21 |
VanessaE |
(and there was no one on) |
| 03:21 |
kahrl |
thanks :) |
| 03:22 |
sdzen |
downloading obscene amounts of media NOW! |
| 03:22 |
sdzen |
wait it crashed |
| 03:22 |
VanessaE |
the media is served up from my website, which I *think* is in Texas |
| 03:23 |
sdzen |
well I cant connect |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: fake "someone else is on" messages? |
| 03:23 |
sdzen |
nope |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
(or "couldn't allocate player") |
| 03:23 |
sdzen |
straight out crash |
| 03:23 |
VanessaE |
that happens to a LOT of people |
| 03:24 |
sdzen |
time to debug I suppose |
| 03:25 |
kahrl |
with my new httpfetch code: Segmentation fault |
| 03:25 |
kahrl |
fun :) |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
you bwoke it! :( |
| 03:25 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 03:25 |
sdzen |
Could not load mesh, because file could not be opened: : hovercraft.x |
| 03:25 |
sdzen |
23:24:51: ERROR[main]: GenericCAO::addToScene(): Could not load mesh hovercraft.x |
| 03:25 |
sdzen |
trapped at this |
| 03:26 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: yep, I know about that. that's a bug in the curl code somewhere. |
| 03:26 |
VanessaE |
(or so I presume) |
| 03:26 |
kahrl |
sdzen, VanessaE, I see the same thing for most .x files, but then I see stuff like "Loaded mesh: cart.x" |
| 03:26 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: exactly. Player meshes tend to be one of the files that don't load, |
| 03:27 |
VanessaE |
but if you go to the media URL ( digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/media_for_curl_server ) and look at them, they're fine |
| 03:27 |
sdzen |
ALSA lib dlmisc.c:252:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_equal.so |
| 03:27 |
sdzen |
AL lib: (EE) alsa_open_playback: Could not open playback device 'default': No such device or address |
| 03:27 |
sdzen |
my cache is going to implode madame |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
(wtf? why didn't firefox keep the http:// on that link?) |
| 03:28 |
sdzen |
not FF's fault |
| 03:28 |
sdzen |
or is it? |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
I c&p from there, so I assume it is |
| 03:29 |
sdzen |
did you click and drag |
| 03:29 |
sdzen |
or double click |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
double click. |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
same as usual |
| 03:29 |
sdzen |
hmmm |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
no matter |
| 03:29 |
VanessaE |
hi Menche :P |
| 03:30 |
sdzen |
Could not load mesh, because file could not be opened: : wield3d_character.x |
| 03:30 |
sdzen |
23:29:34: ERROR[main]: GenericCAO::addToScene(): Could not load mesh wield3d_character.x |
| 03:30 |
Menche |
what, you see me? i'm still loading |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
Menche: yep, but that's normal |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
the server tells other clients about a join before the user is actually fully loaded up |
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sdzen |
too many x's |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
(why does it do that?) |
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VanessaE |
kahrl: joined |
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VanessaE |
er. |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
<kahrl> Well no shit, Sherlock. |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
;) |
| 03:31 |
Menche |
seeing players pacing in place on the spawn coordinates then timing out was a common sight on my server |
| 03:31 |
VanessaE |
Menche: that happens on everyone's servers. |
| 03:33 |
Menche |
my goodness this is taking a long time |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
the "pacing" part is because the model just starts off in a random point in one of the walking anims. the timeout is the client crashing, not sure why |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
wait, wtf |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
why am I seeing 25+ kb/sec upstream? |
| 03:33 |
Menche |
~75% |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
are you using cURL, Menche |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 03:33 |
Menche |
yeah |
| 03:33 |
VanessaE |
weird. |
| 03:33 |
Menche |
...that bad? |
| 03:34 |
VanessaE |
no, not really, I've got 20x that available, just surprised. |
| 03:34 |
Niften |
hehe |
| 03:34 |
VanessaE |
I wonder what else I need to copy to the media server? |
| 03:34 |
Menche |
you're saying it should be higher? |
| 03:34 |
VanessaE |
I'm saying that it should ideally be lower because the media should have been coming from the media server :P |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
but if you could pull 500 kB/sec, that would be fine with me too |
| 03:35 |
Menche |
oh, textures are on a different server |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
idc either way :) |
| 03:35 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: I think I figured out the .x thing by looking at an extra-verbose log |
| 03:35 |
Menche |
am I downloading from the wrong one or something? |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: dare I ask? |
| 03:35 |
kahrl |
you dare? |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
Menche: no, it's all automatic |
| 03:35 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: what did I break? :D |
| 03:35 |
kahrl |
well, I think it's because the server is sending active objects that use a specific model |
| 03:36 |
kahrl |
and it does this before the client actually has the file |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
can it be fixed server-side? |
| 03:36 |
kahrl |
dunno |
| 03:36 |
VanessaE |
(I'd hate to have to tell everyone to update yet again) |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
(there's already enough ....friction.... for that idea lately) |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
psst! he moved! |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
I saw the Menche move! |
| 03:37 |
Menche |
wooo, made it |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
:) |
| 03:37 |
kahrl |
the player should really not "join" (get block data, get objects, ...) before he has all itemdefs, nodedefs and media |
| 03:37 |
kahrl |
it messes everything up |
| 03:37 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: agreed 100% |
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kahrl |
httpfetch_async_get: wield3d_character.x, succeeded=1 |
| 03:41 |
kahrl |
so it does in fact load it, just too late |
| 03:42 |
kahrl |
10m48.991s with httpfetch + lots of debugging output |
| 03:43 |
Menche |
got killed by a nuclear trampoline |
| 03:44 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 03:44 |
VanessaE |
AAIIIIIEEEEEeeeeeeeeeee *splat* |
| 03:46 |
Menche |
wielded items show? |
| 03:46 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
wield3d mod, when the model loads properly :) |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
(see above) |
| 03:47 |
Menche |
...is kahrl actually holding a pale blue square? |
| 03:47 |
Menche |
i assume that's supposed to be something else |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
I don't see it |
| 03:47 |
VanessaE |
what am I holding? |
| 03:48 |
* Menche |
looks for VanessaE |
| 03:48 |
VanessaE |
I'm right in front of you |
| 03:48 |
Menche |
err, the only player i see is kahrl |
| 03:48 |
Menche |
wait, that's what that selection box was |
| 03:48 |
VanessaE |
that's me. |
| 03:48 |
Menche |
i see your selection box |
| 03:48 |
VanessaE |
sounds like the player model didn't load for you |
| 03:49 |
Menche |
but i see kahrl |
| 03:49 |
Menche |
and now sdzen |
| 03:49 |
VanessaE |
probably because they're all default skins |
| 03:49 |
VanessaE |
I have a custom skin |
| 03:49 |
Menche |
and i can't even see your name |
| 03:49 |
sdzen |
hmmm |
| 03:49 |
kahrl |
imo, it should revert to the trollface if the player model can't be loaded |
| 03:49 |
sdzen |
deleted my skin Vanessa? |
| 03:49 |
kahrl |
like in good old minetest 0.0.0 times |
| 03:49 |
Menche |
i'll try logging out and in; i've seen that happen before |
| 03:49 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: no, I don't recall doing so |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: nope, your skin's still in place all right |
| 03:50 |
sdzen |
so am I just rapid fire logging in until it works? |
| 03:50 |
sdzen |
or is there a trick? |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
I'm gonna restart (to update sdzen's mod) |
| 03:50 |
NekoGloop |
http://i.imgur.com/KjWNvKK.gif |
| 03:50 |
VanessaE |
sdzen: normally you just have to sign on and that's it |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
but there's LOTS of timeouts happening right now |
| 03:51 |
Menche |
i haven't timed out yet |
| 03:51 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: I crashed |
| 03:51 |
VanessaE |
good timing then, everyone crashed at about the same time :) |
| 03:52 |
kahrl |
(using upstream master now, not httpfetch) |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 03:52 |
Menche |
ok now I see both VanessaE and sdzen |
| 03:52 |
Menche |
and their custom skins |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
Menche: because now you have the player model cached. |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
or at least the skins |
| 03:52 |
VanessaE |
I dunno how it works |
| 03:53 |
Menche |
so my client didn't grab all of the media the first time? |
| 03:53 |
VanessaE |
I guess not |
| 03:53 |
VanessaE |
clear your cache and try again and I bet you won't see us (or the sheep and rats) |
| 03:53 |
Menche |
a sheep wandered into a travelnet |
| 03:54 |
Menche |
maybe i would load the media faster if i increased media_fetch_threads? |
| 03:54 |
VanessaE |
Menche: maybe, I dunno how that works alongside cURL |
| 03:55 |
Menche |
think that is for curl |
| 03:55 |
VanessaE |
but afaik my web server will handle it okay |
| 03:56 |
Menche |
is there a way for me to see how fast I'm downloading? (i use linux) |
| 03:57 |
Menche |
oops, accidentally cancelled it X( |
| 03:58 |
VanessaE |
I use a network meter docked into my panel |
| 03:59 |
Menche |
oops, when i accidentally quit i guess the server thought i was still on |
| 03:59 |
kahrl |
xfce4-netload-plugin |
| 03:59 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: that's the one. |
| 04:00 |
Menche |
found another |
| 04:00 |
Menche |
if this is right, i'm uploading as much as i'm downloading |
| 04:00 |
kahrl |
well, so much for testing the speed of the master remote media loader |
| 04:00 |
kahrl |
crashed again, same backtrace |
| 04:01 |
Menche |
~27 kBit/s |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
hm |
| 04:01 |
VanessaE |
I'm not seeing much activity in my web logs for the media files...wonder if it's even working |
| 04:02 |
Menche |
now i'm getting about 190 kbit/s download |
| 04:02 |
Menche |
after i upped media_fetch_threads |
| 04:02 |
VanessaE |
ok, then it's working, because I'm only pushing out 50 kB/sec right now |
| 04:03 |
Menche |
average 150, it's varying quite a bit |
| 04:03 |
Menche |
currently have media_fetch_threads at 16 |
| 04:08 |
Niften |
hehe |
| 04:10 |
kahrl |
well this sucks |
| 04:10 |
kahrl |
it's usually trudging along below 10KB/s, but when there's a big file it goes up to several hundred |
| 04:11 |
kahrl |
so there's a big obvious inefficiency there |
| 04:11 |
kahrl |
(this is with httpfetch) |
| 04:11 |
kahrl |
I'll try what reusing curl handles does |
| 04:11 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: what about that http keep alive feature? maybe that'll help[ |
| 04:12 |
Niften |
lol. |
| 04:12 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: yup, exactly that |
| 04:12 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 04:12 |
kahrl |
(the old code doesn't reuse them either) |
| 04:14 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: another thing that needs some love is the huge framerate drops that happen when you dig some items |
| 04:14 |
VanessaE |
(load up 256px HDX, try placing and digging one of those "3d" torches) |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
huh, now it isn't doing it. |
| 04:16 |
VanessaE |
actually yeah it is. costs me 15fps while digging |
| 04:18 |
Menche |
/status says that you're on, but i don't see you again |
| 04:18 |
VanessaE |
I'm over by Dopium's Estate |
| 04:19 |
Menche |
ok there. when i first logged on i didn't see your name, like before |
| 04:26 |
kahrl |
handle reusing doesn't seem to help |
| 04:29 |
VanessaE |
maybe you're hitting some limit of the webserver? |
| 04:29 |
kahrl |
could be |
| 04:29 |
VanessaE |
though, I can push files to it at like 1MB/sec easily |
| 04:30 |
VanessaE |
too bad there's no way to have the client tell the server "hey, my cache is empty - send me the whole damn thing as a zip" |
| 04:30 |
VanessaE |
or maybe use rsync? |
| 04:31 |
kahrl |
DERP |
| 04:31 |
kahrl |
I had media_fetch_threads = 1 |
| 04:31 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 04:31 |
VanessaE |
oops! :) |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
Menche did say he was getting upwards of 150 kB/sec with 16 threads |
| 04:32 |
VanessaE |
(but that's with the cURL code) |
| 04:32 |
kahrl |
now this setting is becoming misnamed, httpfetch uses 1 background thread with $media_fetch_threads connections |
| 04:34 |
Menche |
i was actually getting around that with the default of 8 threads too |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
kahrl: this code you're working on is intended to replace the current cURL-based fetching routines on clients only, right?\ |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
(just to make sure I follow)\ |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
|
| 04:35 |
kahrl |
well my connection isn't as good, about 40 kB/sec on average |
| 04:35 |
kahrl |
VanessaE: exactly |
| 04:35 |
kahrl |
and it's still cURL-based |
| 04:35 |
VanessaE |
(had to terminate the escapes ;) ) |
| 04:38 |
kahrl |
oh wow, this is doing great |
| 04:38 |
kahrl |
didn't crash this time |
| 04:38 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 04:38 |
kahrl |
had over 150 kB/sec average as well |
| 04:38 |
kahrl |
(media_fetch_threads = 16) |
| 04:39 |
kahrl |
exactly 2 minutes to fetch itemdef, nodedef, media and make item textures/meshes |
| 04:39 |
VanessaE |
the whole thing? |
| 04:39 |
kahrl |
yep |
| 04:39 |
* Menche |
crashed |
| 04:39 |
VanessaE |
that's a hell of a lot better than 7-10 mins |
| 04:39 |
kahrl |
emptied the cache |
| 04:41 |
kahrl |
so, if we pretend it didn't crash all the time, this code is pretty good, right? |
| 04:41 |
VanessaE |
I'd say so, but if you can go even faster, of course do so :-) |
| 04:42 |
Menche |
it's complaining about .x meshes not being able to be opened |
| 04:43 |
kahrl |
Menche: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-08-07#i_3244370 |
| 04:44 |
kahrl |
(if anyone wants to test httpfetch, https://github.com/kahrl/minetest/commits/httpfetch) |
| 04:44 |
VanessaE |
test? pfft. push it to git :-) |
| 04:44 |
VanessaE |
let the world test it :) |
| 04:44 |
kahrl |
^ minetest development strategy summed up in 11 words ;) |
| 04:44 |
VanessaE |
hahahaha |
| 04:46 |
kahrl |
maybe it should be called yourtest |
| 04:47 |
VanessaE |
heh |
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Menche |
wow, i cleared my cache and got all the media in less than half a minute |
| 04:56 |
Menche |
with httpfetch |
| 04:56 |
VanessaE |
nice |
| 04:56 |
Menche |
like 3 MBit/s or so |
| 04:57 |
Menche |
i still can't see other players though |
| 04:59 |
hdastwb |
I'm currently trying out the 512x HDX pack with technic_game; minetest's memory usage was approaching 7 GB until the system froze and it came back at about 5.7 GB |
| 05:01 |
VanessaE |
5.7 is about right if you have tons of other mods, like with my game |
| 05:01 |
hdastwb |
graphics memory at 2.6 GB |
| 05:02 |
hdastwb |
I'm kind of curious as to what happened to make it deallocate like that, though… |
| 05:02 |
hdastwb |
I suppose the Irrlicht garbage collector got invoked or something… |
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VanessaE |
good evening to all who just signed on :) |
| 05:28 |
Semilevel |
'morning |
| 05:32 |
kaeza |
evening? :P |
| 05:32 |
VanessaE |
ok, morning then/ |
| 05:32 |
kaeza |
it's 02:32 |
| 05:33 |
kaeza |
what's up? |
| 05:34 |
VanessaE |
we are :P |
| 05:34 |
kaeza |
:P |
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Semilevel |
7:34AM here. |
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Semilevel |
whoops, 35 now |
| 05:35 |
Semilevel |
great |
| 05:35 |
Semilevel |
I've stayed up all night. |
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* VanessaE |
hopes kahrl can work some magic and fix the bugs she's having with her server :-) |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot! |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5! |
| 07:27 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix stored XSS vulnerability in the serverlist 8b9bf47166 2013-08-07T00:24:32-07:00 http://git.io/CrDoNA |
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VanessaE |
ok, I need everyone who has a few minutes to try connecting to my server. |
| 07:31 |
VanessaE |
testing something c55 had me put into place |
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kaeza |
VanessaE, ~7 FPS at spawn o_o |
| 08:07 |
VanessaE |
but it works? |
| 08:07 |
kaeza |
yep |
| 08:07 |
kaeza |
ah! |
| 08:07 |
VanessaE |
for better fps, put pilzadam/taoki's VBO patch in. |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
? |
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kaeza |
could be somehow related to media fetching? |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
as it's downloading the map, it's making meshes |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
and your FPS will drop through the floor until its done |
| 08:08 |
kaeza |
... |
| 08:08 |
kaeza |
not that |
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Taoki |
The patch that never comes |
| 08:08 |
kaeza |
the connection problem |
| 08:08 |
VanessaE |
oh, just the routine media fetch? |
| 08:09 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: I have it on my client, it works well |
| 08:09 |
Taoki |
VanessaE: Let PilzAdam know too that it works well :P |
| 08:09 |
VanessaE |
for the connection problem see, c55's commentary in -dev for the last couple hours and from last night |
| 08:09 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, I had the connection problem earlier, when I started with an empty cache |
| 08:09 |
VanessaE |
he had me try commenting out one of the new calls in the anti-joinflood code |
| 08:10 |
kaeza |
ah well, will read |
| 08:10 |
VanessaE |
G*d its hot in here |
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VanessaE |
(25.5°C) |
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* PenguinDad |
throws grenades at the wifi unicorn. |
| 08:19 |
VanessaE |
PenguinDad: can you try signing onto my server please? I'm trying to collect some can-sign-on-or-not stats |
| 08:20 |
PenguinDad |
VanessaE: sorry but my internet is too bad today |
| 08:20 |
* jin_xi |
is trying to connect |
| 08:20 |
VanessaE |
that's okay, I just need sign-on/off info, you don't have to try to play |
| 08:20 |
VanessaE |
jin_xi: thanks |
| 08:21 |
jin_xi |
ugh, this takes so long |
| 08:21 |
jin_xi |
;) |
| 08:21 |
VanessaE |
jin_xi: and that's with remote media server enabled now |
| 08:22 |
VanessaE |
kahrl is working on a newer, faster version of the fetching code |
| 08:23 |
jin_xi |
now im in and you just left :( |
| 08:23 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 08:24 |
VanessaE |
I Was running out of desktop space to hold my windows :-) |
| 08:27 |
PenguinDad |
VanessaE: it downloads the meshes for me :) |
| 08:29 |
VanessaE |
cool |
| 08:29 |
VanessaE |
that seems to be glitchy, not everyone gets all the meshes for some reason |
| 08:30 |
VanessaE |
kahrl explained it was basically due to the order in which stuff is loaded versus being put into use |
| 08:30 |
VanessaE |
(because you are "on" even before you finish downloading everything) |
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| 08:32 |
jin_xi |
ugh, my computer is way too old for this shit, was getting 1 fps and a high pitched whine from the fans running at max |
| 08:32 |
VanessaE |
eek |
| 08:32 |
Taoki |
Oh god... the mod paths changed AGAIN in latest GIT (during the last 2 weeks) |
| 08:32 |
Taoki |
What is the mod structure this time, and what folder should I move them to >.> |
| 08:32 |
VanessaE |
Taoki: ~/.minetest/mods |
| 08:33 |
Taoki |
Thanks |
| 08:33 |
VanessaE |
e.g. ~/.minetest/mods/homedecor/init.lua |
| 08:33 |
Taoki |
Already there but mods don't show in the Configure menu |
| 08:33 |
Taoki |
*any more |
| 08:33 |
VanessaE |
I think that was already fixed in recent git |
| 08:33 |
Taoki |
Using latest GIt now |
| 08:33 |
VanessaE |
that damn lua menu has been all over the place since introduction |
| 08:33 |
Taoki |
Pulled 5 minutes ago |
| 08:34 |
VanessaE |
odd, they work for me |
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| 08:34 |
Taoki |
Not for me. Wonder why |
| 08:36 |
Taoki |
The "Installed mods" menu also shows nothing |
| 08:37 |
VanessaE |
I assume it ain't a run-in-place build? |
| 08:39 |
Taoki |
hmm |
| 08:39 |
Taoki |
run_in_place is off yes |
| 08:39 |
VanessaE |
weird. |
| 08:39 |
Taoki |
No, I think I did that intentionalily in cmake |
| 08:39 |
Taoki |
So it means mods must be in user folder now? |
| 08:40 |
VanessaE |
well if it's not run-in-place, then they need to be in ~/.minetest/mods |
| 08:40 |
VanessaE |
but if it is, then it's just {minetestfolder}/mods |
| 08:40 |
Taoki |
Any yes, that fixed it |
| 08:41 |
Taoki |
Now it has something called unresolved name conflicts though. Whatever that is |
| 08:41 |
Taoki |
Won't load the world any more |
| 08:42 |
VanessaE |
generally that features pretty well |
| 08:42 |
VanessaE |
I'm really surprised you're getting such errors |
| 08:42 |
VanessaE |
are you sure you're on the right repo and branch? :) |
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| 08:43 |
Taoki |
It was a folder issue again, fixed |
| 08:43 |
VanessaE |
permissions? |
| 08:43 |
Taoki |
nah, paths |
| 08:43 |
VanessaE |
oh k |
| 08:43 |
VanessaE |
ok* |
| 08:44 |
Taoki |
Ok... so does the new weather system also include particles and weather sounds? |
| 08:44 |
VanessaE |
I think it's just a framework |
| 08:44 |
VanessaE |
the actual visible weather is provided by a separate mod |
| 08:44 |
Taoki |
nice |
| 08:45 |
Taoki |
Where is that mod (unless it's the old Weather mod using the particle system, already have that one) |
| 08:45 |
VanessaE |
I'm not sure off the top of my head |
| 08:45 |
VanessaE |
but either paramat or proller made it, if that helps :) |
| 08:45 |
PenguinDad |
at the moment weather only freezes ice xD |
| 08:46 |
proller |
now weather mod with new system support here - https://github.com/proller/minetest-mod-weather/tree/weather |
| 08:47 |
proller |
but it not finished, need to make variable strength of rain and snow |
| 08:48 |
VanessaE |
proller: imho the temperatures can go WAY too high |
| 08:48 |
VanessaE |
at the spawn on my server, it's 57C. |
| 08:48 |
proller |
VanessaE, maybe, it need to fine tuning |
| 08:49 |
proller |
and at one point it change ~ +-35c over 10 hours |
| 08:49 |
VanessaE |
it varies over time? |
| 08:49 |
proller |
yes |
| 08:49 |
VanessaE |
neat |
| 08:49 |
proller |
over "season" |
| 08:49 |
VanessaE |
I didn't notice that before |
| 08:49 |
proller |
over day-night |
| 08:50 |
VanessaE |
imho then max temp should be about 43°C and lowest about -35°C |
| 08:50 |
VanessaE |
(that's about -31 to +110°F) |
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| 08:52 |
VanessaE |
snow mod goes from -25 to somewhere in the +60°C range I think |
| 08:52 |
VanessaE |
(the original Splizard one) |
| 08:52 |
proller |
it needs in smart normalize, must not simply if (heat>43) heat = 43 - will make constant 43 in some areas |
| 08:53 |
VanessaE |
true |
| 08:53 |
VanessaE |
I'm just saying the min/max should never end up outside that range, or close to it anyway |
| 08:53 |
proller |
maybe normalize depend on initial temp in this point |
| 08:54 |
VanessaE |
whether by cutting it off or by normalizing/auto-balancing |
| 08:54 |
proller |
will think about it.. |
| 09:14 |
JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Lighthouse Day! :-D |
| 09:15 |
VanessaE |
hi\ |
| 09:16 |
PenguinDad |
JamesTait: do you mean this: https://lighthouseapp.com/ :D |
| 09:18 |
JamesTait |
PenguinDad, that looks like it, yeah. :-P |
| 09:18 |
PenguinDad |
plol |
| 09:20 |
VanessaE |
gotta run, |
| 09:20 |
VanessaE |
time to try to sleep |
| 09:20 |
VanessaE |
night all. |
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PenguinDad |
he recolored his signature -> https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=6589 |
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kaeza |
O_o |
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| 10:44 |
Jordach |
i know what worldedit-infinity DOES. |
| 10:46 |
kaeza |
it divides by zero? |
| 10:46 |
kaeza |
no, wait, that is worldedit-NaN |
| 10:46 |
kaeza |
:) |
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| 10:49 |
PenguinDad |
Jordach: something like infinite water and lava? |
| 10:50 |
Jordach |
nope |
| 10:50 |
Jordach |
if you have the worldedit priv; something special happens |
| 10:51 |
Jordach |
(i actually talked to uberi on his fb for this info) |
| 10:56 |
Jordach |
\o/ https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104377#p104377 |
| 10:58 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: http://z0r.de/3730 |
| 10:59 |
Jordach |
you just crashed chrome -1 |
| 10:59 |
sfan5 |
hah |
| 11:00 |
* sfan5 |
also knows what worldedit_infinity is supposed to do when its complete |
| 11:01 |
sfan5 |
!seen Uberi |
| 11:01 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen uberi around. |
| 11:01 |
Jordach |
MUAHAHAHA |
| 11:02 |
PenguinDad |
!seen Jeija |
| 11:02 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen jeija around. |
| 11:02 |
sfan5 |
!seen MinetestBot |
| 11:02 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Sorry, I haven't seen minetestbot around. |
| 11:02 |
Jordach |
Plot Twist: Jeija got sucked into a Minetest world |
| 11:02 |
Jordach |
that's why we haven't seen him |
| 11:02 |
thexyz |
that's not a real twist |
| 11:02 |
sfan5 |
Inverse Plot Twist: A Minetest world got sucked into Jeija |
| 11:03 |
thexyz |
how about Jeija is LM? |
| 11:03 |
sfan5 |
^ plot twist |
| 11:03 |
Jordach |
doesnt make sense |
| 11:03 |
PenguinDad |
Jeija was lost to the ether :P |
| 11:03 |
Jordach |
5 bucks pilzadam is sleeping in bed right now |
| 11:04 |
sfan5 |
no, PilzAdam is sleeping in a mushroom |
| 11:05 |
PenguinDad |
and now we what's behind PilzAdam's name |
| 11:06 |
Jordach |
know* |
| 11:06 |
Jordach |
in other news: i upgraded my Sam II model again |
| 11:07 |
sfan5 |
SAM III\ |
| 11:07 |
sfan5 |
s/\\/?/ |
| 11:07 |
PenguinDad |
we should make a game named SAM |
| 11:07 |
Jordach |
'twas a complained model feature |
| 11:08 |
Jordach |
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/297/untitled.png |
| 11:09 |
Jordach |
something changed |
| 11:10 |
* Jordach |
is recreating the minetest logo to be used in a blender short |
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| 11:13 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 11:13 |
sfan5 |
hi |
| 11:13 |
Jordach |
hey PilzAdam http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/297/untitled.png |
| 11:16 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, stop using the spoiler thing |
| 11:16 |
PilzAdam |
its annyoing |
| 11:16 |
sfan5 |
no, it isn't |
| 11:17 |
PilzAdam |
yes it is </good_argument> |
| 11:18 |
Jordach |
spoilers are for people who dont want to read things....not to mention they spoil things :P |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Fix path of mono font in defaultsettings.cpp 218f82f798 2013-08-07T04:41:00-07:00 http://git.io/eAWD1Q |
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| 11:51 |
Jordach |
look familiar? http://i.imgur.com/Qk6PwtR.jpg |
| 11:53 |
Jordach |
duplicated NODE for NODE |
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PenguinDad |
Jordach: good work |
| 11:58 |
PenguinDad |
!g Jeija |
| 11:58 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: https://github.com/Jeija |
| 12:00 |
PenguinDad |
When I search for Jeija I get this http://www.jeja.pl/ |
| 12:00 |
PilzAdam |
google personalized search results... |
| 12:00 |
PilzAdam |
+'s |
| 12:01 |
Jordach |
!g "Jeija" |
| 12:01 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: https://github.com/Jeija |
| 12:01 |
PenguinDad |
!title |
| 12:01 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: Jeija (Jeija) · GitHub |
| 12:01 |
PenguinDad |
!title http://www.jeja.pl/ |
| 12:01 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: Jeja.pl - Serwis Rozrywkowy |
| 12:02 |
proller |
Jordach, water must flow down 8) |
| 12:03 |
PenguinDad |
PilzAdam: the google personalized results are sometimes crazy |
| 12:03 |
PilzAdam |
s/sometimes// |
| 12:03 |
* PilzAdam |
slaps PenguinDad with ixquick.com |
| 12:05 |
thexyz |
wait, do you actually trust what they write? |
| 12:05 |
PenguinDad |
thexyz: no |
| 12:05 |
Calinou |
better give your data to a small company than google, I guess |
| 12:06 |
thexyz |
what's the difference if everything ends up in nsa |
| 12:07 |
Calinou |
google doesn't make money |
| 12:08 |
thexyz |
why is that a problem? |
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| 12:09 |
* Jordach |
is busy making UV Maps for certain blocks |
| 12:11 |
Calinou |
better help small companies than big ones |
| 12:14 |
Jordach |
mhm |
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| 12:18 |
Jordach |
proller, i would use water; but it isn't finite |
| 12:18 |
Jordach |
D: |
| 12:18 |
Jordach |
:D* |
| 12:19 |
proller |
and now some water may be frozen |
| 12:19 |
Jordach |
HOLD ON |
| 12:19 |
Jordach |
why cant we have our own skyblock? where we LIVE ON the Minetest LOGO?> |
| 12:20 |
proller |
and need in lava block at bottom |
| 12:20 |
Jordach |
proller, yup |
| 12:22 |
Jordach |
i'm probably going to build a texture atlas for blender |
| 12:23 |
Jordach |
(so you can pick a blocks texture and relative sides) |
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| 12:32 |
Jordach |
just done about 27% of the minetest logo |
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| 12:35 |
Jordach |
hello PilzAdam |
| 12:35 |
Jordach |
you should buy 20m CAT5 |
| 12:35 |
Jordach |
cable* |
| 12:36 |
* PenguinDad |
throws a bucket full of lava at PilzAdam's wifi unicorn. |
| 12:36 |
* Calinou |
does kinky stuff to PilzAdam's wifi unicorn. |
| 12:39 |
Jordach |
O.O |
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| 12:51 |
Jordach |
NOOOOOO! |
| 12:52 |
bas080 |
it's ok Jordach |
| 12:52 |
Jordach |
bas080, the UV isnt the right way up |
| 12:52 |
Jordach |
i have to manually rotate each face |
| 12:52 |
Jordach |
one by one in blender |
| 12:53 |
Calinou |
r-(axis)-90 |
| 12:53 |
Calinou |
done |
| 12:54 |
Jordach |
Calinou, lol |
| 12:57 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i'm working on a blender version of blockmen's most recent wallpaper |
| 12:57 |
Jordach |
with Sam II |
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| 13:13 |
Jordach |
dammit proller_ - stop using wifi :P |
| 13:13 |
* Jordach |
attacks proller_'s wifi pony |
| 13:13 |
Jordach |
and there's no calinou to stop me >:D |
| 13:14 |
proller_ |
i'm updating freebsd via wifi |
| 13:14 |
Jordach |
ah |
| 13:14 |
* Jordach |
prefers PC-BSD |
| 13:14 |
PenguinDad |
Jordach: it's a unicorn not a pony |
| 13:14 |
proller_ |
Fetching 23675 files... |
| 13:15 |
Jordach |
there are unicorns in MLP; calinou has said this |
| 13:15 |
Jordach |
MULTIPLE times. |
| 13:15 |
PenguinDad |
i wasn't there in this time |
| 13:15 |
PenguinDad |
*here |
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| 13:20 |
webdesigner97 |
hi |
| 13:20 |
webdesigner97 |
How can I access custom variables declared in the entity definition when I have it's objectRef? |
| 13:29 |
PilzAdam |
https://forum.minetest.net/userlist.php?show_group=-1&sort_by=num_posts&sort_dir=ASC&username=-&p=77 <- 77 pages of users with 0 Posts |
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| 13:37 |
PenguinDad |
PilzAdam: hmmmm many register only for reading the forum :/ |
| 13:38 |
thexyz |
i wonder how many false highlights hmmmm gets per day |
| 13:38 |
hmmmm |
like 3 or 4 |
| 13:39 |
PenguinDad |
that's the problem with such names |
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| 13:42 |
Evergreen |
But it isn't a problem if you are not lazy and actually push the tab key :P |
| 13:44 |
PenguinDad |
I think that should be moved into the Other Languages section -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104409#p104409 |
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| 13:45 |
Evergreen |
who here likes any kind of EDM? |
| 13:45 |
Evergreen |
*who here |
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| 13:45 |
Evergreen |
Whoops, that was unintentional. :P |
| 13:45 |
hoodedice |
!seen Peacock |
| 13:45 |
MinetestBot |
hoodedice: peacock was last seen at 2013-08-07 02:12:05 UTC on #minetest |
| 13:46 |
hoodedice |
I infer that Peacock left three minutes ago |
| 13:46 |
Evergreen |
!seen sfan5 |
| 13:46 |
MinetestBot |
Evergreen: sfan5 was last seen at 2013-08-07 11:14:19 UTC on #minetest |
| 13:46 |
hoodedice |
(Wrong. You forgot to take the time in 24 HOURS) |
| 13:49 |
Jordach |
fuck me running, this bass is ticking my ear :O |
| 13:50 |
hoodedice |
How can bass tickle ears? |
| 13:50 |
Jordach |
hoodedice, 40hz is nearly at 130% |
| 13:50 |
hoodedice |
Ohhhhhhkaaaaaaaaayyyyy |
| 13:51 |
sfan5 |
!seen Evergreen |
| 13:51 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: evergreen was last seen at 2013-08-07 13:44:04 UTC on #minetest |
| 13:51 |
hoodedice |
But how does one 'fuck off to bed'? |
| 13:51 |
Evergreen |
Lol |
| 13:52 |
PenguinDad |
!seen PenguinD1 |
| 13:52 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen penguind1 around. |
| 13:57 |
PenguinDad |
!c x*i |
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MinetestBot |
Sorry, no result. |
| 13:57 |
sfan5 |
!c google |
| 13:57 |
MinetestBot |
Sorry, no result. |
| 13:57 |
sfan5 |
google can't calculate itself |
| 13:57 |
PenguinDad |
google = 10 |
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PenguinDad |
!c google |
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MinetestBot |
Sorry, no result. |
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thexyz |
10¹â°â° |
| 13:58 |
Jordach |
!c PI |
| 13:58 |
MinetestBot |
3.14159265 |
| 13:58 |
thexyz |
!c gogol |
| 13:58 |
MinetestBot |
Sorry, no result. |
| 13:58 |
Jordach |
!c 10^100 |
| 13:58 |
MinetestBot |
1.0 × 10^(100) |
| 13:58 |
thexyz |
!c googol |
| 13:58 |
MinetestBot |
1.0 × 10^(100) |
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PilzAdam |
!c googolplex |
| 13:59 |
MinetestBot |
Sorry, no result. |
| 13:59 |
PenguinDad |
!c the answer to life, the universe and everything |
| 13:59 |
MinetestBot |
42 |
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lordcirth |
Really? It can't handle a googolplex? |
| 14:01 |
Jordach |
lordcirth, MinetestBot == python |
| 14:01 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, !c == google calculator |
| 14:04 |
PenguinDad |
!c Googolplex |
| 14:04 |
MinetestBot |
Sorry, no result. |
| 14:04 |
PenguinDad |
!c Millillion |
| 14:04 |
MinetestBot |
Sorry, no result. |
| 14:05 |
PenguinDad |
google calculator == bad |
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Jordach |
you are fucking kidding me |
| 14:15 |
Jordach |
for a test wallpaper i end up making perfect IRL like shadows |
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Evergreen |
!c 1+1 |
| 14:20 |
MinetestBot |
2 |
| 14:20 |
Evergreen |
Hey minetest bot, your pretty cool |
| 14:20 |
Evergreen |
Who made minetest bot? |
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PenguinDad |
Evergreen: sfan5 made MinetestBot in Python |
| 14:24 |
Evergreen |
Well then, awesome job, sfan5 |
| 14:24 |
sfan5 |
Evergreen: http://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules |
| 14:26 |
PenguinDad |
sfan5: could that be moved into other languages? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6841 |
| 14:27 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/ip4u81F.png |
| 14:27 |
sfan5 |
PenguinDad: done |
| 14:27 |
Jordach |
five hours of work ladies and gentlemen |
| 14:27 |
Evergreen |
Awesome! |
| 14:27 |
Jordach |
that's a duplicate in blender |
| 14:27 |
Jordach |
now i need the icing on the cake; Sam II |
| 14:27 |
lordcirth |
Anyone interested in making textures for a keyboard and an old-style console? |
| 14:28 |
Jordach |
meh |
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Jordach |
sdzen is your man for that |
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PilzAdam |
bbl |
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* Jordach |
tries to get the water transparent |
| 14:31 |
Jordach |
yay water is rendering clear, but it's got that "blue depth" the game gives it |
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Niften |
Hey |
| 14:33 |
Jordach |
hello Niften |
| 14:33 |
Evergreen |
Hi |
| 14:33 |
PenguinDad |
Niften: use a real IRC client |
| 14:33 |
Calinou |
PenguinDad: why? |
| 14:33 |
Jordach |
i should say good morning Niften |
| 14:34 |
Calinou |
if you don't need it, why install one? |
| 14:34 |
kaeza |
O_o |
| 14:34 |
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| 14:34 |
Jordach |
you are joking |
| 14:34 |
Jordach |
Taoki, next you make a player model: don't fuck with the lighting / shadow systems |
| 14:34 |
PenguinDad |
Calinou: I don't like that people use webchat |
| 14:34 |
Calinou |
well, http://hexchat.github.io then |
| 14:34 |
hoodedice |
No, I'm not |
| 14:35 |
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| 14:35 |
hoodedice |
Peacock |
| 14:35 |
Peacock |
yup |
| 14:35 |
hoodedice |
Having issues connecting |
| 14:35 |
Peacock |
your name doesn't show in terminal |
| 14:36 |
Peacock |
got one 5-digit name and two guest names banned tho |
| 14:36 |
PenguinDad |
Calinou: why are you using a desktop client then? |
| 14:36 |
hoodedice |
When I came up, my bro was playing single player |
| 14:36 |
hoodedice |
brb |
| 14:36 |
Calinou |
because I need it, I have a lot of channels and several networks |
| 14:36 |
Peacock |
try release/renew ip and check he didn't clear your username |
| 14:37 |
Evergreen |
Hey sfan5, why did you ban ragnar? |
| 14:37 |
sfan5 |
Evergreen: it wasn't me |
| 14:37 |
Evergreen |
Who was it then? :P |
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| 14:38 |
reactor |
Evening. |
| 14:38 |
Evergreen |
Something interesting about me: I never had a true survival world. My main survival world is basically redcrab's server. :P |
| 14:38 |
Evergreen |
I only test stuff with my minetest worlds |
| 14:39 |
Peacock |
i banned ragnar for soliciting sexual favours on the forums |
| 14:39 |
Niften |
Skyping Preston. |
| 14:39 |
Niften |
right now. |
| 14:39 |
Evergreen |
Who are you on the forums Peacock? |
| 14:39 |
Peacock |
mauvebic (the guy with the shining pic) |
| 14:39 |
lordcirth |
The survival game doesn't work for me. It loads with all textures invisible |
| 14:39 |
Calinou |
the canadian* |
| 14:40 |
Evergreen |
ah ok |
| 14:40 |
Calinou |
Niften: skype is evil® |
| 14:40 |
Evergreen |
Never new that |
| 14:40 |
Peacock |
theres more than one canadian :P though i think all the other ones may be asian |
| 14:40 |
Calinou |
Evergreen: Ragnar was tempbanned for having too much time on their hands and spending it on the forums. |
| 14:40 |
Calinou |
and in general, being immature |
| 14:40 |
Calinou |
3 day ban |
| 14:40 |
Evergreen |
k' |
| 14:40 |
Jordach |
hello reactor |
| 14:40 |
* Jordach |
closes the case of Niften = reactor |
| 14:41 |
Niften |
-.- |
| 14:41 |
reactor |
What?! |
| 14:41 |
* Calinou |
opens the case of Jordach = reactor |
| 14:41 |
Evergreen |
Well, I kind of have too much time on my hands, and I spend on youtube, minetest forums, and IRC. :P |
| 14:41 |
Niften |
:D |
| 14:41 |
* Jordach |
slaps Calinou |
| 14:41 |
reactor |
Who the hell is Niften? |
| 14:41 |
svuorela |
the conclusion is that Jordach == Niften ? |
| 14:41 |
Niften |
:OOOO |
| 14:41 |
Jordach |
none, both are here |
| 14:41 |
Peacock |
hoodedice ifyou pm your ip ill see if youre one of the guests that got themselves banned |
| 14:41 |
reactor |
What are you talking about? |
| 14:42 |
reactor |
But so you know, I am not a reactor. |
| 14:42 |
Niften |
reactor == Jordach |
| 14:42 |
reactor |
That's only my nick. |
| 14:42 |
reactor |
Niften: hell no |
| 14:42 |
Jordach |
haha |
| 14:42 |
Niften |
Reactor == Reactor |
| 14:42 |
reactor |
No. |
| 14:42 |
Niften |
Maybe? |
| 14:42 |
Niften |
:OOO |
| 14:42 |
Niften |
it speaks! |
| 14:43 |
Niften |
*rather types |
| 14:43 |
reactor |
unsigned pwned int Niften; |
| 14:43 |
Evergreen |
Also, I found a cool program called Guake. It is a multitasker's ream. :P |
| 14:44 |
Evergreen |
*dream |
| 14:44 |
lordcirth |
Evergreen, Guake is awesome, also Yakuake for KDE |
| 14:44 |
Calinou |
meh, I just alt-tab to terminal |
| 14:44 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/297/untitled.medium.png |
| 14:44 |
Jordach |
new mouth get |
| 14:44 |
Jordach |
oh shit |
| 14:44 |
Jordach |
i draw a monocle on that |
| 14:45 |
Evergreen |
Awesome |
| 14:45 |
lordcirth |
On every distro I set up, I either have a drop-down terminal, or a terminal fullscreened on desktop 2 |
| 14:45 |
Peacock |
for some reason twoelk can connect to my server but not brandreese's, and we both got anticheat on |
| 14:45 |
Jordach |
a re-did the mouth |
| 14:45 |
hoodedice |
Hmm, yeah, I saw some Guest5xxxx when I switched to multiplayer |
| 14:46 |
hoodedice |
It was kinda suspicious. Singleplayer takes 15 minutes to load |
| 14:46 |
Peacock |
can you switch IPs because finding it in a long list of Guests#### is like needle in a haystack lol |
| 14:46 |
Niften |
hehe |
| 14:46 |
hoodedice |
But he said he started playing immediately |
| 14:46 |
Niften |
:O |
| 14:46 |
hoodedice |
Wait |
| 14:46 |
hoodedice |
Can't. |
| 14:46 |
hoodedice |
I don't have a router |
| 14:46 |
Peacock |
shit, PM it to me ill edit the banlist |
| 14:47 |
Jordach |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104432#p104432 |
| 14:47 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, ^ |
| 14:47 |
hoodedice |
(Minetest forums have no in-built PM functions.) |
| 14:47 |
Niften |
Preston is coming on |
| 14:47 |
hoodedice |
(SAD) |
| 14:47 |
Niften |
:o |
| 14:47 |
Niften |
the IRC |
| 14:47 |
Evergreen |
Awesome job! The tree and the water looks a bit off though |
| 14:47 |
Peacock |
irc pm |
| 14:47 |
reactor |
Meh. |
| 14:48 |
reactor |
Forums. |
| 14:48 |
Peacock |
if you cant sign on you cant pm me ingame lol |
| 14:48 |
Evergreen |
Still great! |
| 14:48 |
reactor |
Why don't you use mailing lists, people?! |
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| 14:48 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 14:48 |
Niften |
hi |
| 14:48 |
Niften |
Derp |
| 14:48 |
reactor |
They're more lightweight and flexible than forums. |
| 14:48 |
Niften |
Jordach preston isch here |
| 14:48 |
Jordach |
we noticed |
| 14:48 |
Peacock |
mailing lists? the 90's called |
| 14:48 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, the water is transparent |
| 14:49 |
Niften |
Ya |
| 14:49 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:49 |
Evergreen |
The texture looks weird though |
| 14:49 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, default_water.png without removal of alpha (i let blender handle water.) |
| 14:49 |
Niften |
Hehe |
| 14:49 |
hoodedice |
Still doesn't connect |
| 14:49 |
Peacock |
i need your ip first before i can unban |
| 14:49 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, minetest trees are usually 3-5 nodes in height |
| 14:49 |
hoodedice |
(Wait. IP ban. You dumbass) |
| 14:49 |
hoodedice |
*Facealm* |
| 14:49 |
hoodedice |
**Facepalm* |
| 14:49 |
Jordach |
BM's was 2 |
| 14:50 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:50 |
Peacock |
i cant guess which of the hundred or so IPs/guestnames you got assigned :p |
| 14:50 |
hoodedice |
Peacock, how do I PM you? |
| 14:50 |
Jordach |
hmm? i cant recall yesterday well |
| 14:50 |
Evergreen |
The texture looks zoomed in on the water, and the tree leaves aren't in the right arangement |
| 14:50 |
Peacock |
right cvlick my name |
| 14:50 |
hoodedice |
email, FedEx? |
| 14:50 |
Peacock |
*cick |
| 14:50 |
kaeza |
lol |
| 14:50 |
Peacock |
tabarnacle |
| 14:50 |
Peacock |
*click |
| 14:50 |
Jordach |
hoodedice, /msg Peacock <ip> |
| 14:50 |
kaeza |
hoodedice, /query Peacock |
| 14:50 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:51 |
Evergreen |
Sometimes I get mauvebic and kaeza confused. :P |
| 14:51 |
hoodedice |
msg or query? |
| 14:51 |
Niften |
nu uh |
| 14:51 |
Peacock |
how? the names are completely different :P |
| 14:51 |
kaeza |
O_o |
| 14:51 |
Jordach |
Prestotron562, feel free to explain making a game out of other peoples mods |
| 14:51 |
Niften |
I didn't lie Prestotron562 |
| 14:51 |
Evergreen |
Ik, but for some reason, I just do |
| 14:51 |
Jordach |
and re-naming of the engine |
| 14:51 |
Niften |
Prestotron562 |
| 14:52 |
Evergreen |
Hey sfan5: what do you usually use for code editing? (more specifically, python) |
| 14:52 |
Peacock |
did a whois lol try connecting now |
| 14:52 |
sfan5 |
Evergreen: gedit |
| 14:52 |
Niften |
Everyone say his name so he gets spammed YAYYAYAYAYA |
| 14:52 |
Niften |
xD |
| 14:52 |
Niften |
Prestotron562 |
| 14:52 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:52 |
kaeza |
his name |
| 14:52 |
hoodedice |
No, |
| 14:52 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:52 |
Evergreen |
I use Geany, because it lists variables, objects, classes and such |
| 14:53 |
Jordach |
Prestotron562, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic_game |
| 14:53 |
Jordach |
already done |
| 14:53 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:53 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:53 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:53 |
kaeza |
Evergreen, geany is one of the best for Python editing |
| 14:53 |
kaeza |
either that or IDLE |
| 14:53 |
Evergreen |
Ik, I cna tell |
| 14:53 |
Evergreen |
*can |
| 14:53 |
reactor |
Oh, here they go again. |
| 14:53 |
sfan5 |
Evergreen: I always use a plain text editor, variable list and so is nice, but I usually don't need it.. also IDLE is nice |
| 14:53 |
Evergreen |
IT is probably the best code editor out there |
| 14:53 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:53 |
Niften |
It took him that long to realize. |
| 14:53 |
Niften |
xD |
| 14:53 |
lordcirth |
vim is better. |
| 14:53 |
reactor |
You don't need all this fancy stuff to write programs. Just learn vi. |
| 14:54 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:54 |
Evergreen |
If I need to do something small, SciTE or gedit is what I use |
| 14:54 |
Niften |
Thanks Jordach for having him realize :P |
| 14:54 |
lordcirth |
reactor, vi is a bit hard, vim is nice |
| 14:54 |
Niften |
Prestotron562 |
| 14:54 |
kaeza |
lol vi[m] |
| 14:54 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:54 |
Jordach |
Prestotron562, that's fine, jsut remember to ask the community if they need things |
| 14:54 |
Evergreen |
Also, I discovered a nice python editor for the terminal called bpython |
| 14:54 |
Jordach |
well, if you need things |
| 14:54 |
Niften |
Jordach |
| 14:54 |
Jordach |
either way, take and give with this community |
| 14:54 |
Niften |
Are we all good now? |
| 14:54 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:55 |
Jordach |
Prestotron562, i'm a forum moderator. i'm no where as mean as pilzadam or c55 |
| 14:55 |
Jordach |
i also make blender art of minetest |
| 14:55 |
Niften |
I make art too |
| 14:55 |
Niften |
Not blender, Cinema4D |
| 14:55 |
Niften |
:D |
| 14:55 |
Evergreen |
I have to admit, I can be kind of mean sometimes, but no where close to Pilzadam |
| 14:55 |
kaeza |
trolling is a art |
| 14:56 |
reactor |
No, it's a sexual practice. |
| 14:56 |
Niften |
Can you link me to the rig of your Minetest guy |
| 14:56 |
Niften |
? |
| 14:56 |
Niften |
Jordach? |
| 14:56 |
Evergreen |
Blender, not Cinema4D |
| 14:56 |
Jordach |
Niften, yes, i use blender |
| 14:56 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:56 |
Niften |
I know. |
| 14:56 |
reactor |
lordcirth: when I say "vi" I mean "vi in general", it doesn't have to be the original vi. |
| 14:56 |
bas080 |
I want a function like get_biome(pos) == "jungle" f.e. Has this been implemented and is there an example of it? |
| 14:56 |
reactor |
But I like the original vi fine. |
| 14:56 |
Jordach |
Prestotron562, any collection of mods could be called an extension to minetest_game |
| 14:56 |
Niften |
Jordach, can you link me to the rig you use? |
| 14:56 |
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| 14:56 |
Jordach |
Niften, it's a blender model; should be incompatible with C4D |
| 14:56 |
Evergreen |
In the latest minetest version, how does one define a biome? |
| 14:57 |
Niften |
I have a blender converter. |
| 14:57 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:57 |
Niften |
:o |
| 14:57 |
bas080 |
Evergreen, there is something like https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2156 |
| 14:57 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:57 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest |
| 14:57 |
Jordach |
^ that has biome defs |
| 14:57 |
bas080 |
Jordach, am checking that |
| 14:57 |
Evergreen |
Okay, thanks |
| 14:57 |
Peacock |
Canadian Biomes: Winter, More Winter, Still Winter, and Construction |
| 14:58 |
Jordach |
Prestotron562, Niften: feel free to do whatever YOU LIKE with the engine; but when you're done with your game post it on the forums, we'll be waiting. |
| 14:58 |
Evergreen |
I usually either get my code from default, or someone elses mod |
| 14:58 |
Jordach |
(if it's like minetest_game, forum it) |
| 14:58 |
Niften |
Why on the forums? |
| 14:58 |
Peacock |
unless youre on the west coast, in which case its Rain, Rain, Rain, Junky Seasons |
| 14:58 |
Niften |
Oh |
| 14:58 |
reactor |
By the way. |
| 14:58 |
Niften |
Mkk |
| 14:58 |
reactor |
How's the patch, sfan5? |
| 14:58 |
Niften |
HA. Not Mk. |
| 14:58 |
hoodedice |
You ain't in the tropics bro |
| 14:58 |
bas080 |
Jordach, this only counts for on_generate |
| 14:58 |
lordcirth |
reactor, well, it is nice that its 330 kb, as opposed to vim at 26.4 MB :) |
| 14:59 |
Evergreen |
Huh, I'll have to try making some biomes, and I'll see what I come up with |
| 14:59 |
reactor |
lordcirth: oh yeah |
| 14:59 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 14:59 |
Jordach |
Niften, then others can play your game built from minetest_game or it's ilk |
| 14:59 |
bas080 |
but what if i want to get_biome(pos) not on generate |
| 14:59 |
reactor |
lordcirth: and I don't need code highlighting |
| 14:59 |
Evergreen |
Also, is it possible to make trees nly spawn in a certain niome? |
| 14:59 |
hoodedice |
It's either DAMN HOT or DAMN COLD or DAMN RAINY |
| 14:59 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, yes |
| 14:59 |
reactor |
lordcirth: because it's only distracting imho |
| 14:59 |
Niften |
Jordach |
| 14:59 |
Evergreen |
If so, how? |
| 14:59 |
Jordach |
Niften, mhm |
| 14:59 |
Niften |
In the next update it won't be compatible |
| 14:59 |
Jordach |
ahh |
| 14:59 |
Niften |
with the minetest-engine. |
| 14:59 |
bas080 |
Evergreen, i think so. https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest/blob/master/mods/deco/init.lua#L143 |
| 14:59 |
reactor |
IceCraft: it's more practical to learn to see what is what on your own; so you don't get confused if something breaks |
| 15:00 |
reactor |
oops |
| 15:00 |
reactor |
I mean, lordcirth |
| 15:00 |
Niften |
I rewrote alot of the code from the core engine. xLOLxTSNOOPS is compiling it as we speak. |
| 15:00 |
Jordach |
Niften, feel free; but remember to INCLUDE the changed source code |
| 15:00 |
Jordach |
when selling / distributing |
| 15:00 |
Niften |
Wait what? |
| 15:00 |
Jordach |
that's part of the LGPL license |
| 15:00 |
Niften |
I'm not selling it though |
| 15:00 |
Niften |
Oh... |
| 15:00 |
Jordach |
okay, but you still have to though, (any code is also under LGPL too) |
| 15:01 |
lordcirth |
reactor, That's one way of looking at it. I find syntax highlighting quite useful, but I certainly don't depend on it |
| 15:01 |
Peacock |
otherwise zealots will come to your use and cut you with Trisquell CD's :p |
| 15:01 |
Peacock |
*house |
| 15:01 |
reactor |
lordcirth: mk |
| 15:01 |
reactor |
lordcirth: but I like some features of vi |
| 15:01 |
reactor |
lordcirth: for instance, its changeable status line |
| 15:03 |
lordcirth |
reactor, the main problem I have with vi is never knowing what mode you're in. |
| 15:03 |
reactor |
meh |
| 15:03 |
reactor |
just remember to escape every time you switch elsewhere |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, i cant change the uv on the water |
| 15:03 |
Jordach |
and anyways, when was water IRL tiling and perfect |
| 15:04 |
Evergreen |
True. :P |
| 15:04 |
Jordach |
i did try to put a water modifier on to the water (so it looks and moves like water |
| 15:04 |
Evergreen |
Does anyone here like EDM? |
| 15:04 |
* Jordach |
nods |
| 15:04 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, http://di.fm |
| 15:05 |
Jordach |
< 30 channels |
| 15:05 |
Jordach |
!title |
| 15:05 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: Digitally Imported - addictive electronic music |
| 15:05 |
Evergreen |
For EDM, I usually like browsing monstercat, or any EDM district partnered promoters |
| 15:06 |
Evergreen |
And also beatport ofc |
| 15:06 |
hoodedice |
Hey Peacock |
| 15:06 |
Peacock |
whats up? |
| 15:07 |
hoodedice |
Why isn't the server 24x7? |
| 15:07 |
bas080 |
How can i get the biome at a certain location? |
| 15:07 |
bas080 |
not on generate |
| 15:07 |
Peacock |
i pay a powerbill for this flat :p |
| 15:08 |
Peacock |
last place I could have, but its too late now |
| 15:08 |
Niften |
Jordach, is the minetest-master outdated? |
| 15:08 |
hoodedice |
i pay a powerbill for this flat :p |
| 15:08 |
hoodedice |
=) |
| 15:08 |
Jordach |
Niften, https://github.com/minetest/minetest is always upto date |
| 15:08 |
Niften |
I know. |
| 15:09 |
Peacock |
though i wonder, does a 650W psu consume all 650W if most of the cables aren't plugged into anything? |
| 15:09 |
Niften |
Preston said it wasn;'t ^^ |
| 15:09 |
Niften |
I saw PilzAdam's code on texturepacks |
| 15:09 |
Niften |
So I knew it wasn't 0.3.1 |
| 15:09 |
Jordach |
Niften, always grab the latest - but my choice is to develop a bunch of mods that work in sync and call them a game |
| 15:09 |
hoodedice |
It doesn't |
| 15:09 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, actually, the wattage is the maximum output, you have to add resistance. And no, it will use very little power if the computer is idling |
| 15:09 |
Jordach |
fun fact; i wrote the first editon of the wool mod |
| 15:09 |
Niften |
I'm doing that right now |
| 15:10 |
Jordach |
the one in minetest_game was a fork |
| 15:10 |
Peacock |
i bought a powerful one for the p4 since the last one practically melted the fan lol |
| 15:10 |
Jordach |
whoops |
| 15:11 |
bas080 |
Jordach, i made the first cotton plant |
| 15:11 |
Jordach |
mhm |
| 15:11 |
Evergreen |
YEah, I know that you did |
| 15:12 |
hoodedice |
The other realms, what were they? |
| 15:12 |
PenguinDad |
F_F |
| 15:12 |
PenguinDad |
sorry |
| 15:12 |
Peacock |
hmm shit, i think Vulcan, Andor, Tellar, Dytallix and QoNos |
| 15:12 |
PenguinDad |
star trek FTW! |
| 15:13 |
Peacock |
waiting for paramat to rewrite moonrealm to use voxmynipples before i let people back onto those realms |
| 15:13 |
sfan5 |
voxelmanip* |
| 15:13 |
* Jordach |
laughs uncontrollably |
| 15:13 |
PenguinDad |
plol |
| 15:13 |
Jordach |
plol too |
| 15:14 |
sfan5 |
plol |
| 15:14 |
hoodedice |
voxmynipples? ROFL |
| 15:14 |
Peacock |
dont blame me :P its started with paramats "vox ma nips" which became "vox my nips" to finally "voxmynipples" :P |
| 15:14 |
hoodedice |
haha |
| 15:15 |
Peacock |
i noticed he's since removed the meme (or someone did for him) :P |
| 15:15 |
reactor |
Hmm. |
| 15:15 |
reactor |
Anyone got rc script for minetesterver? |
| 15:16 |
Peacock |
voxelmanip is so awkward to say/type though |
| 15:16 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: I have a gift for you: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/rainbowdash.png |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
<Peacock> though i wonder, does a 650W psu consume all 650W if most of the cables aren't plugged into anything? |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
no |
| 15:16 |
Peacock |
comes out looking/sounding like Voxel Man IP |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
sfan5: seems legit |
| 15:16 |
Niften |
hehe |
| 15:16 |
sfan5 |
Peacock: can I alias your nick to mauvebic? |
| 15:16 |
Peacock |
i woulda gone with something like chunkedit |
| 15:17 |
Peacock |
will that change anything at my end? |
| 15:17 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 15:17 |
Peacock |
then go ahead :-) |
| 15:17 |
sfan5 |
but at the irc statistics |
| 15:17 |
Peacock |
i only read logs i dont really care about stats |
| 15:17 |
Peacock |
im not an actuary lol |
| 15:18 |
Niften |
I'm going to get blender. |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
Niften, it's FREE. |
| 15:18 |
Niften |
I know. |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
and Open Source, like Minetest |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
:D |
| 15:18 |
Niften |
I downloaded it a few years back :D |
| 15:18 |
Niften |
But I got a new laptop |
| 15:18 |
Niften |
So I don't have it anymore :( |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
BTW guys: Pavel_S isn't able to be around as he's got things to be doing nowadays |
| 15:18 |
Jordach |
he'll be back at some point though |
| 15:19 |
Calinou |
sfan5: what's the image? :P |
| 15:19 |
Calinou |
that |
| 15:19 |
reactor |
and agriculturally |
| 15:19 |
hoodedice |
Peacock, I need more of the TRN lights |
| 15:19 |
hoodedice |
In colour:orange |
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| 15:20 |
Jordach |
hello NekoGloop |
| 15:20 |
NekoGloop |
sup |
| 15:20 |
Peacock |
orange neons? |
| 15:20 |
Peacock |
i dont even have a full set of the blue ones :P |
| 15:21 |
Peacock |
like the floor ones but for ceilings and walls (with all the turns and Ts) |
| 15:21 |
hoodedice |
hmm |
| 15:21 |
Peacock |
when they add the ability to change textures on the same nodes, ill make the set multi-color :-) |
| 15:21 |
hoodedice |
I wish I could help, but I don't have the needed time and stuf |
| 15:21 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, just made two new renders |
| 15:22 |
Jordach |
:P |
| 15:22 |
* NekoGloop |
noms Jordach |
| 15:22 |
Peacock |
i added two new glasses tho, a bit more variety there |
| 15:22 |
* Evergreen |
noms NekoGloop |
| 15:22 |
Peacock |
mbocks:2,3 |
| 15:22 |
* NekoGloop |
owie |
| 15:22 |
Peacock |
*mblocks |
| 15:23 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: look at it |
| 15:23 |
Peacock |
something like tiles1, tiles2, etc. (or multiple tables for tiles, same effect) |
| 15:24 |
* Calinou |
hammers sfan5 using powerjack |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
o.o |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
plol |
| 15:25 |
hoodedice |
I think the inventory should have some sort of pull down menu feature |
| 15:26 |
Jordach |
sfan5, delete the two nicks i and a |
| 15:26 |
Peacock |
dont think there is a dropdown formspec element |
| 15:26 |
hoodedice |
Like there will be generic blocks, and when you click on it, you get a menu to select the colour |
| 15:26 |
Peacock |
i was thinking of categorizing nodes tho |
| 15:26 |
hoodedice |
Someone should code it the ^.^ |
| 15:26 |
hoodedice |
*then |
| 15:26 |
sfan5 |
sfan5: how? |
| 15:26 |
Peacock |
id probably add a extra field to the nodefef or sort them by mod |
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| 15:28 |
Peacock |
though at least with the uber-large inventory 840 items fits on four pages :p |
| 15:30 |
Peacock |
thank god though i can offer a decent game with just 13 mods :p |
| 15:31 |
hoodedice |
Indeed |
| 15:31 |
hoodedice |
Though it is missing mesecons |
| 15:31 |
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| 15:32 |
Peacock |
well im not "missing" it lol |
| 15:32 |
Peacock |
its too heavy |
| 15:32 |
Jordach |
and now my ears are ringing |
| 15:32 |
Peacock |
besides i dont want people building clocks and calculators and computers on my server, thats realllly not voxely |
| 15:33 |
hoodedice |
*TR9 Light doesnt work* |
| 15:33 |
Peacock |
depends how you place them |
| 15:33 |
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| 15:33 |
Peacock |
they dont all shoot light in the same direction |
| 15:33 |
Octupuslegs |
hi |
| 15:33 |
hoodedice |
I put them on the ceiling |
| 15:34 |
Peacock |
what do the 9's look like again? |
| 15:34 |
hoodedice |
four squares seperate from each other, white on the bottom, brown on top |
| 15:35 |
Peacock |
okay yeah that shoots in 4 directions down-diagonally |
| 15:35 |
Peacock |
try punching it once |
| 15:36 |
Evergreen |
Just discovered a song that is probably my favorite. It's called Razihel & Virtual Riot - One for All, All for one |
| 15:36 |
hoodedice |
No. Doesn't work |
| 15:36 |
Peacock |
how much clearance did you give underneath? |
| 15:37 |
hoodedice |
2 blocks |
| 15:37 |
Peacock |
yeah that wont do much |
| 15:37 |
Peacock |
try one of the wall neons (the up<-> down one) |
| 15:37 |
hoodedice |
Doesnt work on 4 blocks too |
| 15:38 |
Peacock |
the oldest fixtures are usually the trickiest to place |
| 15:38 |
Peacock |
which is why i mostly use neons indoors |
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| 15:40 |
Exio4 |
hi! |
| 15:47 |
lordcirth |
Found a bug in minetest engine. If you click on a label in a formspec, and hit Enter, it segfaults |
| 15:47 |
hoodedice |
segfaults? |
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| 15:48 |
rubenwardy |
Hi all |
| 15:48 |
hoodedice |
Yo |
| 15:48 |
lordcirth |
hoodedice, "Segmentation fault. Core dumped" - the classic C/C++ error |
| 15:48 |
hoodedice |
Got a reply from any review thingy? |
| 15:48 |
rubenwardy |
no |
| 15:48 |
hoodedice |
lordcirth : If only I was a real programmer |
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| 15:48 |
PenguinDad |
"Core Dumped" xD |
| 15:48 |
hoodedice |
Hello |
| 15:49 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Hello? |
| 15:49 |
rubenwardy |
Also makes me think of Portal |
| 15:49 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Lol |
| 15:49 |
lordcirth |
hoodedice, lol. In future, if you see that, you know the program is a variant of C, and just failed badly |
| 15:49 |
hoodedice |
Peacock, guy with a citizenship request |
| 15:49 |
hoodedice |
=) |
| 15:49 |
PenguinDad |
rubenwardy: makes me think of nethack |
| 15:49 |
Peacock |
you want him in yours? |
| 15:49 |
hoodedice |
I don't know |
| 15:49 |
Peacock |
lets wait and see, |
| 15:49 |
Peacock |
if he builds nice |
| 15:49 |
hoodedice |
Universal, which nation do you want to join? |
| 15:49 |
Peacock |
things |
| 15:50 |
TheUniversalBuil |
I dunno, Im completely noob |
| 15:50 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Cause I just joined yesterday haha |
| 15:50 |
Peacock |
ive seen that name before last week |
| 15:50 |
Calinou |
hi TheUniversalBuil |
| 15:50 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Hello? |
| 15:51 |
TheUniversalBuil |
I just signed up yseterday lol |
| 15:51 |
Peacock |
well people have to build for a while before im sure they wont wreck other people's projects in their countries |
| 15:51 |
hoodedice |
Peacock, put him in Uruk for now |
| 15:51 |
Exio4 |
ehm |
| 15:51 |
Peacock |
allright, if he wrecks shit let me now |
| 15:52 |
hoodedice |
OK |
| 15:52 |
Peacock |
you set a password universal? |
| 15:52 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Oh yeah |
| 15:53 |
hoodedice |
Peacock, guy named Viruze says he teleported himself to prison |
| 15:53 |
Peacock |
i'll need to restart for the change to take effect, let me know when it suits you guys |
| 15:53 |
Peacock |
why would he do such a silly thing? |
| 15:53 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 15:53 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 15:54 |
hoodedice |
I did that too, before I was a citizen =P |
| 15:54 |
hoodedice |
But we had lava in those days |
| 15:54 |
Peacock |
he'll have to come back with a different name before he gets himself banned for griefing the prison :p |
| 15:54 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Hahah |
| 15:54 |
hoodedice |
Lol |
| 15:54 |
Octupuslegs |
Calinou,what server so you play on now ? |
| 15:54 |
hoodedice |
Universal, get back tomorrow |
| 15:54 |
Calinou |
Octupuslegs: none |
| 15:54 |
Calinou |
oh, also, hi |
| 15:54 |
TheUniversalBuil |
How did he teleport himself there? |
| 15:54 |
kaeza |
Octupuslegs, o/ |
| 15:55 |
TheUniversalBuil |
ok? |
| 15:55 |
Peacock |
its on the teleport list |
| 15:55 |
hoodedice |
You can |
| 15:55 |
Peacock |
which means i can move the prison whenever i feel like it |
| 15:55 |
TheUniversalBuil |
oh |
| 15:55 |
Octupuslegs |
kaeza, :DD |
| 15:55 |
hoodedice |
Better remove it for stupidity's sake |
| 15:55 |
Peacock |
cant |
| 15:55 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Lol |
| 15:55 |
Peacock |
autojail looks for the "Prison" entry |
| 15:55 |
TheUniversalBuil |
So could you tell me the rules? |
| 15:56 |
Peacock |
they were at spawn when you first came in |
| 15:56 |
Peacock |
find a teleporter and head back to Spawn |
| 15:56 |
TheUniversalBuil |
ok |
| 15:57 |
hoodedice |
So, what happens to this guy? |
| 15:57 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Do commands work? |
| 15:58 |
hoodedice |
What sort? |
| 15:58 |
Peacock |
wtf, do you have a hacked client hoodedice? |
| 15:58 |
hoodedice |
No? |
| 15:58 |
hoodedice |
0.4.7 stable |
| 15:58 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Woah |
| 15:58 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Wtf |
| 15:58 |
hoodedice |
Why? |
| 15:59 |
Peacock |
did you get kicked off? |
| 15:59 |
hoodedice |
I logged off simply |
| 15:59 |
hoodedice |
Did I get banned again? |
| 15:59 |
lordcirth |
Is the default on_rightclick() just a call to show_formspec ? |
| 16:00 |
Peacock |
ACTION[ServerThread]: hoodedice interacted too far |
| 16:00 |
Peacock |
11:57:40: ACTION[ServerThread]: hoodedice banned for using a hacked client |
| 16:00 |
hoodedice |
*facepalm* |
| 16:00 |
hoodedice |
I think lag. |
| 16:00 |
Peacock |
i think im gonna re-disable this anticheat stuff |
| 16:01 |
Octupuslegs |
theres hacked clients now :o |
| 16:01 |
hoodedice |
Half the time I interact with x block, then move away to interact with another block while the server updates that |
| 16:01 |
Octupuslegs |
where have i been |
| 16:01 |
hoodedice |
It seems so. |
| 16:01 |
Peacock |
yeah im disabling anticheat, too many false positives |
| 16:01 |
hoodedice |
Open-source. Do what the fudge you want. |
| 16:01 |
sfan5 |
Peacock: I F**KING TOLD YOU TO NOT BAN ANYONE FOR INTERACTED_TOO_FAAR BECAUSE THAT CAN HAPPEN WITHOUT A HACKET CLIENT!!!!! |
| 16:01 |
sfan5 |
-A |
| 16:01 |
sfan5 |
s/HACKET/HACKED/ |
| 16:01 |
Peacock |
de-caps |
| 16:02 |
hoodedice |
Hmm, Peacock, if no citizen is on, you might go ahead and restart |
| 16:02 |
hoodedice |
I'm leaving for now |
| 16:02 |
Peacock |
well if i cant count on anticheat for autoban, what good is it to me? |
| 16:02 |
hoodedice |
TheUniversalBuil |
| 16:03 |
* OldCoder |
will return |
| 16:03 |
TheUniversalBuil |
yes? |
| 16:03 |
hoodedice |
I need some mail id which you check frequently |
| 16:03 |
hoodedice |
skype, @facebook, @gmail, anything |
| 16:04 |
Calinou |
sfan5: you shouldn't ban for anything but undiggable then |
| 16:05 |
Peacock |
fixed banlist, added universal to uruk, and disabled anticheat :-) |
| 16:05 |
hoodedice |
universal to uruk? |
| 16:05 |
TheUniversalBuil |
:S |
| 16:05 |
Peacock |
universalbuilder |
| 16:05 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Oh |
| 16:05 |
hoodedice |
oh |
| 16:05 |
TheUniversalBuil |
I dunno what happen |
| 16:06 |
TheUniversalBuil |
I think I dug a block by accedent |
| 16:06 |
hoodedice |
Universal, I need any mail id you use |
| 16:06 |
Peacock |
restarted with the above changes |
| 16:06 |
hoodedice |
Server was restarted that's why you disconnected |
| 16:06 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Ok |
| 16:06 |
* rubenwardy |
is making a tiled RTS |
| 16:06 |
TheUniversalBuil |
So just give an email adress I use? |
| 16:06 |
kahrl |
rubenwardy, similar to ternadim? |
| 16:06 |
hoodedice |
Yeah, any you check regularly |
| 16:07 |
rubenwardy |
more like Anno 1404 |
| 16:07 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Ok |
| 16:07 |
Peacock |
hoodedice is admin of uruk, so what he says goes (there) |
| 16:07 |
TheUniversalBuil |
How do I private chat? |
| 16:07 |
rubenwardy |
/msg <user> <msg> |
| 16:07 |
hoodedice |
*slash*msg hoodedice |
| 16:07 |
rubenwardy |
or right click name, query |
| 16:07 |
rubenwardy |
/query hoodedice |
| 16:08 |
hoodedice |
right click wont work in a browser |
| 16:08 |
PenguinDad |
hoodedice: with AJAX |
| 16:08 |
hoodedice |
AJAX? |
| 16:09 |
PenguinDad |
!g AJAX |
| 16:09 |
MinetestBot |
PenguinDad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_(programming) |
| 16:09 |
PenguinDad |
^ hoodedice |
| 16:09 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Did the private message work? |
| 16:10 |
hoodedice |
Ya |
| 16:10 |
Peacock |
tell Viruze to sign in with a different name |
| 16:10 |
Peacock |
and this time, dont visit the prison lol |
| 16:13 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Does minetest accept programming? |
| 16:13 |
hoodedice |
As in? |
| 16:13 |
TheUniversalBuil |
and what language? |
| 16:13 |
hoodedice |
Minetest engine is C++ |
| 16:13 |
hoodedice |
And modding API is lua |
| 16:14 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Oh |
| 16:14 |
TheUniversalBuil |
wow |
| 16:14 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Nice |
| 16:14 |
hoodedice |
Open source. Do what the Fudge you want. |
| 16:14 |
PenguinDad |
and the API itself is C |
| 16:14 |
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| 16:17 |
Exio4 |
there isn't any "real C" here |
| 16:17 |
Exio4 |
minetest is C++ and lua |
| 16:18 |
rubenwardy |
TheUniversalBuil: www.minetest.net/development |
| 16:21 |
hoodedice |
l.a.g |
| 16:22 |
Peacock |
ping says 217 (about normal for me) |
| 16:22 |
hoodedice |
217 between PCs in your own house? |
| 16:22 |
Peacock |
i need to reduce the speed of the dig tools |
| 16:22 |
Peacock |
thatll help |
| 16:23 |
Peacock |
no 217 according to servers.minetest.net |
| 16:25 |
hoodedice |
TheUnversalBuil is confused |
| 16:26 |
Peacock |
well theres not much i can do about the education system in his country |
| 16:26 |
hoodedice |
-.- That was. HARSH |
| 16:27 |
rubenwardy |
A complicated design document for my game: http://ubuntuone.com/0MRopcdwLvLWnMRgenzY8T |
| 16:27 |
hoodedice |
BRB |
| 16:27 |
rubenwardy |
(image) |
| 16:27 |
hoodedice |
What is Pread? |
| 16:27 |
rubenwardy |
Bread, probably |
| 16:27 |
rubenwardy |
It is a greek game |
| 16:27 |
hoodedice |
Nice bedsheet |
| 16:28 |
Peacock |
well "confused" is very broad, id need to know about what exactly |
| 16:28 |
hoodedice |
About the teleporter. |
| 16:28 |
hoodedice |
He's actually *walking* to Uruk |
| 16:28 |
thexyz |
Fish → Stone |
| 16:28 |
Peacock |
if he's lost then he should jump off a ledge he'll respawn at Spawn and from there can teleport |
| 16:28 |
hoodedice |
Done walking |
| 16:28 |
thexyz |
everything → stone |
| 16:28 |
rubenwardy |
Store :P |
| 16:29 |
thexyz |
ooh |
| 16:29 |
hoodedice |
Stone age |
| 16:29 |
Peacock |
one helluva walk lol uruk aint exactly next door lol |
| 16:29 |
rubenwardy |
gtg in a minute |
| 16:30 |
Peacock |
ill bbl (server stayin up) |
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| 16:35 |
thexyz |
why is this topic in trash? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6832 |
| 16:35 |
hoodedice |
?? |
| 16:35 |
* sfan5 |
didn't do it |
| 16:36 |
sfan5 |
probably because its duplicate or so |
| 16:36 |
sfan5 |
!title |
| 16:36 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Forum message — Minetest Forums |
| 16:36 |
TheUniversalBuil |
LOL education in my country? |
| 16:36 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Yeah its america :( |
| 16:37 |
hoodedice |
Dude? You seen any BIG WHITE FLIPPIN BUILDINGS? |
| 16:37 |
Exio4 |
TheUniversalBuil: latin america ftw |
| 16:38 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Yes |
| 16:40 |
TheUniversalBuil |
There are two frickin buildings behind me LOL one is yellow and one is white |
| 16:40 |
hoodedice |
Yeah. Where are they |
| 16:40 |
TheUniversalBuil |
The white one has teleporters I think |
| 16:40 |
hoodedice |
Lead me |
| 16:40 |
TheUniversalBuil |
How can you no see the,?? Rofl |
| 16:40 |
TheUniversalBuil |
*them |
| 16:41 |
hoodedice |
The chunks are taking ages to load |
| 16:41 |
TheUniversalBuil |
OH LOL |
| 16:41 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Hah |
| 16:41 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:41 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Yo |
| 16:41 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 16:41 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Nothing much, you? |
| 16:42 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:42 |
hoodedice |
I so hate server lags |
| 16:43 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:43 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:43 |
Jordach |
Prestotron562, technic_game was there a LONG TIME ago |
| 16:43 |
hoodedice |
Tekkit? |
| 16:43 |
Jordach |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6412 |
| 16:43 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:44 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 16:45 |
hoodedice |
Universal is two days new to the game |
| 16:45 |
Jordach |
Prestotron562, it does need a lot of work; mainly new devices etc |
| 16:46 |
hoodedice |
I've been playing since a year, and still don't understand how tecnic works |
| 16:46 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:46 |
Jordach |
Prestotron562, me and VanessaE dont jump at things |
| 16:46 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 16:46 |
Jordach |
(she's just as dependable) |
| 16:47 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 16:47 |
Jordach |
hold on, did you comment on the irrlicht forum thread about it |
| 16:47 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:47 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 16:48 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 16:48 |
kaeza |
... |
| 16:48 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 16:48 |
kaeza |
what's up with all the secrecy here? |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
Prestotron562, i prefer IRC, not some monitored thing by the <insert third party here> (NSA?) |
| 16:49 |
kaeza |
aren't we open source? |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
not to mention i get a full screen |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
(hexchat.) |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
and closing my browser doesnt kill the chat either |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
(that's why i hate webchat.) |
| 16:49 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:49 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:49 |
Jordach |
i'm a texture artist |
| 16:49 |
Jordach |
VanessaE is probably busy with her own server |
| 16:49 |
Octupuslegs |
Has anyone seen Cactusplz |
| 16:50 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:50 |
Jordach |
cactuz_pl, havent seen him for a while |
| 16:50 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:50 |
kaeza |
._. |
| 16:50 |
* Jordach |
prefers making textures on his own, and even has aseprite minetest tp |
| 16:50 |
Jordach |
^ kaeza |
| 16:51 |
kaeza |
o/ |
| 16:51 |
Jordach |
i've only covered 8% of minetest game |
| 16:51 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:51 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:51 |
Jordach |
i work for myself |
| 16:52 |
Jordach |
and i'm very unlikely to keep schedules |
| 16:52 |
Jordach |
kaeza, when have i actually done something on time |
| 16:52 |
hoodedice |
Prestron, is that a minetest fork? |
| 16:52 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:52 |
kaeza |
Jordach, define 'on time' |
| 16:52 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:53 |
kaeza |
we hobbyists have no notion of this 'time' thing |
| 16:53 |
hoodedice |
Why isnt it mentioned on the site? |
| 16:53 |
kaeza |
we do stuff at our own pace |
| 16:53 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:53 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:53 |
Jordach |
nope |
| 16:53 |
kaeza |
well, have fun with that :) |
| 16:53 |
Jordach |
i have email and IRC |
| 16:54 |
Jordach |
that's it |
| 16:54 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:54 |
kaeza |
lel |
| 16:54 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:54 |
Jordach |
i already work on technic_game |
| 16:54 |
* Jordach |
has repository access |
| 16:55 |
* kaeza |
too |
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| 16:55 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:55 |
kaeza |
:P |
| 16:55 |
* Jordach |
sighs |
| 16:55 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:55 |
Jordach |
s/scratch/hand made |
| 16:55 |
Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 16:56 |
hoodedice |
Crevis, by the looks of it |
| 16:56 |
hoodedice |
Looks like a total minecraft ripoff |
| 16:56 |
Jordach |
s/craft/test |
| 16:56 |
hoodedice |
Offence not intended |
| 16:57 |
kaeza |
hoodedice, Crevis is basically Minetest with a custom game, sold for $5 |
| 16:57 |
kaeza |
IIRC |
| 16:57 |
reactor |
Internet Internet Relay Chat |
| 16:58 |
kaeza |
xD |
| 16:58 |
hoodedice |
Sold? |
| 16:58 |
hoodedice |
On what basis? |
| 16:58 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 16:58 |
hoodedice |
This is GPL |
| 16:58 |
kaeza |
+L |
| 16:59 |
hoodedice |
LGPL |
| 16:59 |
kaeza |
also, [L]GPL does not forbid sales of the software |
| 16:59 |
thexyz |
no, it's free |
| 16:59 |
hoodedice |
Wut? |
| 16:59 |
kaeza |
it states that the source code must be freely available |
| 16:59 |
hoodedice |
Then again, you can't sell it |
| 17:00 |
kaeza |
O_o |
| 17:00 |
Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 17:00 |
thexyz |
http://www.crevis.net/downloads.html |
| 17:00 |
thexyz |
download is freely available |
| 17:00 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:00 |
hoodedice |
IF it's free as in freedom, doesnt make a difference in free as in free candies |
| 17:00 |
sfan5 |
Prestotron562: ummm |
| 17:00 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:00 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:00 |
sfan5 |
Niften said you decided to sell it |
| 17:00 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:01 |
kaeza |
hoodedice, it sounds silly, yes, but you can sell GPL'ed software |
| 17:01 |
sfan5 |
I don't think Niften would want to sell it |
| 17:01 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:01 |
kaeza |
*as long as you provide the source code with it* |
| 17:01 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:01 |
sfan5 |
Prestotron562: anyway, why is there a "bluestone" with mesecons_* things in the mods of crevis |
| 17:01 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:01 |
sfan5 |
+folder |
| 17:01 |
kaeza |
and pass on the same rights to whoever you give it to |
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Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 17:02 |
hoodedice |
Jeija |
| 17:02 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:02 |
sfan5 |
and VanessaE and me and other people |
| 17:03 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:03 |
sfan5 |
builtin/mainmenu.lua |
| 17:03 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:03 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:04 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:04 |
sfan5 |
no? |
| 17:04 |
sfan5 |
.. |
| 17:04 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:04 |
sfan5 |
you need to use a more recent minetest version |
| 17:04 |
kaeza |
lel |
| 17:04 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:04 |
sfan5 |
*o.4.7 |
| 17:04 |
sfan5 |
s/o/0/ |
| 17:04 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:04 |
sfan5 |
not enough |
| 17:04 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:04 |
kaeza |
still better than 4.7 :P |
| 17:05 |
hoodedice |
0.4.7 git |
| 17:05 |
sfan5 |
you can change the whole main menu with lua if you use 0.4.7 git |
| 17:05 |
Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 17:05 |
sfan5 |
... |
| 17:05 |
hoodedice |
... Indeed |
| 17:05 |
sfan5 |
the thing Niften calls minetest-master |
| 17:05 |
hoodedice |
!g minetest git |
| 17:05 |
MinetestBot |
hoodedice: http://dev.minetest.net/Git |
| 17:05 |
kaeza |
... |
| 17:05 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:05 |
kaeza |
Prestotron562, http://cheezburger.com/7698568448 |
| 17:05 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:06 |
sfan5 |
lol |
| 17:06 |
hoodedice |
Dude, what exactly are you? |
| 17:06 |
sfan5 |
there are builds for minetest 0.4.7 git from me, PilzAdam, BlockMen and Fess |
| 17:06 |
hoodedice |
How did you 'make' a game without compiling it? |
| 17:06 |
sfan5 |
the most recent one is IIRC from me: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1523&p=11 |
| 17:07 |
sfan5 |
I update these ever 1-3 days |
| 17:07 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:07 |
hoodedice |
Official minetest git https://github.com/minetest/minetest |
| 17:08 |
hoodedice |
The one I gave it source (?) |
| 17:08 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:08 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:09 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:09 |
Jordach |
we dont have silence here |
| 17:09 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:09 |
hoodedice |
!seen silence |
| 17:09 |
MinetestBot |
hoodedice: Sorry, I haven't seen silence around. |
| 17:09 |
Jordach |
if the channel goes quiet; people are busy |
| 17:09 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:09 |
kaeza |
oh dog |
| 17:09 |
Calinou |
Prestotron562: depends on your OS |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
on windows: use DARK MAGIC.exe |
| 17:10 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:10 |
hoodedice |
!g how to compile in windows |
| 17:10 |
MinetestBot |
hoodedice: http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/windows/8985/ |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
hoodedice: won't work |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
you need to get specific dependencies |
| 17:10 |
hoodedice |
=) |
| 17:10 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:10 |
hoodedice |
I know =P |
| 17:10 |
sfan5 |
Prestotron562: yes |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
Prestotron562: TL;DR: compiling on windows is painful |
| 17:10 |
hoodedice |
aka use Ubuntu |
| 17:10 |
sfan5 |
Prestotron562: builtin/mainmenu.lua |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
if you're still willing to do it: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1434 |
| 17:11 |
TheUniversalBuil |
I have a question |
| 17:11 |
kaeza |
Prestotron562, open up start menu->run, type "cmd.exe", then in the black window type "del C:\WINDOWS\System32" |
| 17:11 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:11 |
hoodedice |
kaeza you evil fello |
| 17:11 |
TheUniversalBuil |
if someone leaves the server, does their character stay in the game? |
| 17:11 |
hoodedice |
no |
| 17:11 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:11 |
sfan5 |
Prestotron562: use the f**king link I gave you |
| 17:11 |
TheUniversalBuil |
cuz it happened to me yesterday |
| 17:11 |
Calinou |
kaeza: 1) not fun 2) don't tell people to do that |
| 17:12 |
hoodedice |
!g How to setup a minetest server |
| 17:12 |
MinetestBot |
hoodedice: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Setting_up_a_server |
| 17:12 |
Calinou |
the rm -rf jokes and such stuff aren't funny since ~2006 |
| 17:12 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:13 |
hoodedice |
Hey Prestotron |
| 17:13 |
hoodedice |
See this, it will increase your PC geekiness by 9001 |
| 17:13 |
hoodedice |
!g Ubuntu Linux |
| 17:13 |
MinetestBot |
hoodedice: http://www.ubuntu.com/ |
| 17:13 |
Calinou |
no. |
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| 17:13 |
Calinou |
xubuntu > ubuntu anyway |
| 17:14 |
hoodedice |
Yeah I believe that too |
| 17:14 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:14 |
Calinou |
Prestotron562: winRAR sucks. use 7-zip |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
http://7-zip.org |
| 17:15 |
sfan5 |
^ |
| 17:15 |
sfan5 |
use 7zip |
| 17:15 |
* hoodedice |
uses xubuntu https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6477 |
| 17:15 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:16 |
hoodedice |
wut? |
| 17:16 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:16 |
reactor |
Ubuntu is broken beyond repair. |
| 17:16 |
Evergreen |
I just updated firefox to use duckduckgo, and I'm loving it so far |
| 17:16 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:16 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:16 |
reactor |
Do you need any updated for ddg, Evergreen? |
| 17:16 |
reactor |
updates* |
| 17:16 |
reactor |
It shoud work right away eh. |
| 17:16 |
Evergreen |
It does |
| 17:17 |
Evergreen |
:P |
| 17:17 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:17 |
Evergreen |
Also, I am getting metal plates put in my ankles in a couple weeks. Yay! |
| 17:17 |
Evergreen |
(jk) |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
Prestotron562: you can now edit builtin/mainmenu.lua |
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| 17:17 |
Evergreen |
I actually am getting metal plates put in my ankles |
| 17:17 |
sfan5 |
Prestotron562: but don't use Word, Notepad or WordPad; use Notepad++ |
| 17:17 |
Evergreen |
though |
| 17:18 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:18 |
Evergreen |
Yes, for code editing in windows, use Notepad++ |
| 17:19 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:21 |
Tesseract |
vim FTW. :-) |
| 17:21 |
reactor |
vi in general is |
| 17:21 |
reactor |
not only vim |
| 17:21 |
reactor |
and vim is rather fat, I'd say |
| 17:21 |
PenguinDad |
i like nvi |
| 17:22 |
lordcirth |
PenguinDad, nvi ? Never heard of it |
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| 17:22 |
Tesseract |
Yes, vim has some issues. But it is my favorite editor overall. |
| 17:22 |
reactor |
Oh yeah, someone's addicted to syntax highlighting, I see. |
| 17:23 |
PenguinDad |
nvi is a reimplementation of vi for BSD |
| 17:23 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:23 |
reactor |
yeah, nvi is fine. |
| 17:23 |
reactor |
I like vim's status line that shows current column, though. |
| 17:23 |
reactor |
Because you need some files not exceeding 80 cols. |
| 17:23 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:24 |
reactor |
sfan5: so, how's the patch? |
| 17:24 |
sfan5 |
which patch? |
| 17:24 |
reactor |
Hell. |
| 17:24 |
reactor |
The Z direction. |
| 17:24 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:24 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 17:24 |
reactor |
Or haven't I showed you the corrected patch? |
| 17:24 |
reactor |
s/ed/n/ |
| 17:25 |
sfan5 |
no |
| 17:25 |
reactor |
Oh. |
| 17:25 |
reactor |
My bad. |
| 17:25 |
sfan5 |
Prestotron562: ? |
| 17:25 |
Prestotron562 |
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| 17:25 |
reactor |
sfan5: turns out it's not X being reverted, but Z. |
| 17:25 |
reactor |
s/re/in/ |
| 17:26 |
sfan5 |
Prestotron562: have you started bin/minetest.exe in the folder where you extracted my build? |
| 17:26 |
TheUniversalBuil |
Guys |
| 17:26 |
Prestotron562 |
[deleted] |
| 17:27 |
reactor |
Windows... there we go again. |
| 17:27 |
TheUniversalBuil |
How come some textures cant be loaded |
| 17:27 |
Prestotron562 |
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Prestotron562 |
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| 17:28 |
thexyz |
http://bpaste.net/show/120827/ how's that? (in terms of readability) |
| 17:28 |
PenguinDad |
Prestotron562 works for me :P |
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PenguinDad |
thexyz: does it use your stressed framework? |
| 17:30 |
sfan5 |
PenguinDad: yes |
| 17:30 |
thexyz |
PenguinDad: it's proof of concept |
| 17:31 |
thexyz |
I need to know how it should work before implementing it |
| 17:31 |
PenguinDad |
thexyz: then it looks good |
| 17:32 |
PenguinDad |
sfan5: Prestotron562 is really to stupid |
| 17:33 |
PenguinDad |
*[off] |
| 17:39 |
thexyz |
discussing people behind their backs is a bad idea |
| 17:41 |
reactor |
it is |
| 17:41 |
PenguinDad |
thexyz: yeah i think that too but sometimes are people really to stupid |
| 17:41 |
reactor |
related statement: small towns suck |
| 17:42 |
PenguinDad |
reactor: then my town sucks \o/ |
| 17:42 |
reactor |
mine certainly does, I don't know about yours |
| 17:42 |
reactor |
/o\ |
| 17:43 |
PenguinDad |
reactor: mine too |
| 17:43 |
reactor |
mkay |
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| 17:51 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix various memory access problems detected by valgrind 2ed3067bbe 2013-08-07T10:48:31-07:00 http://git.io/9BtqJw |
| 17:52 |
Peacock |
valgrind... sounds like a strippers' name :P |
| 17:54 |
PenguinDad |
Peacock: it's something like a memory stripper :P |
| 17:54 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 17:55 |
Peacock |
she's grinds your ram :P |
| 17:55 |
Peacock |
*she |
| 17:56 |
NekoGloop |
https://xkcd.com/619/ |
| 17:57 |
thexyz |
that's too true |
| 17:57 |
thexyz |
for pretty much everything |
| 17:58 |
svuorela |
Peacock: valgrind is a thing from norse mythology, the entrance to valhalla. |
| 17:58 |
svuorela |
Peacock: but in this context it is a tool that helps when you either not release memory when you are done using it or figure out if you access memory you shouldn't be accessing and other such things |
| 17:59 |
sdzen |
I would suppose that door is wide open for the right price |
| 17:59 |
svuorela |
it is a amazing tool for software developers developing in at least languages like c and c++ |
| 17:59 |
Peacock |
this ones' funny https://images.encyclopediadramatica.se/3/30/Macpclinux27886.gif |
| 18:00 |
svuorela |
oh. and btw valgrind is a so amazing tool that it makes sw developers move to linux just to be able to use it in their debugging. |
| 18:01 |
PenguinDad |
for software developing linux is great |
| 18:02 |
PenguinDad |
expect for C# and many other microsoft technologies |
| 18:02 |
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| 18:03 |
Peacock |
which means every office that needs something outside of server solutions :p |
| 18:04 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, the entire govt of Munich is running Linux only, with no problems :) |
| 18:04 |
Peacock |
i know opensource is very big in europe |
| 18:04 |
PenguinDad |
it's called Limux |
| 18:06 |
Peacock |
im just more of a pragmatist on certain things - especially when people complain about everything a big evil corporation does, while simultaneously excusing every shortcoming opensource migh have |
| 18:06 |
Peacock |
*might |
| 18:07 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, Opensource software will be fixed eventually, corporate morality will not :) |
| 18:08 |
lordcirth |
It's about the long run |
| 18:08 |
Peacock |
that implies that every lead dev of every single project has pure motives |
| 18:08 |
Peacock |
except when you consider how many forks arose out of personal disagreements |
| 18:08 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, Most do. And if they don't, someone will fork it |
| 18:08 |
svuorela |
if not, projects can be forked. se also: x.org, libreoffice. |
| 18:09 |
Peacock |
what really bugs me is this trend with purists who say alot of linux dists aren't free enough, so they come up with HURD and trisquell and all this stuff where there isn't that much of a demand |
| 18:10 |
Peacock |
time that could be better spent fixing things people really do want in linux |
| 18:11 |
svuorela |
Peacock: hurd is older than linux |
| 18:11 |
svuorela |
Peacock: and these resources aren't interchangable. |
| 18:11 |
Peacock |
but linux is established |
| 18:11 |
Peacock |
hurd took about as long as e17 |
| 18:11 |
svuorela |
just if I stop contributing to KDE or Debian doesn't mean I would start contributing to Gnome or Fedora. |
| 18:12 |
Peacock |
naw sure if you close down some of these tribes than devs will leave, thats a given, but re-inventing the wheel isn't doing anyone any favours |
| 18:12 |
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| 18:13 |
svuorela |
it might make the persons doing the new rounder wheel happy. and that's good enough to me, even if it is just shared between the author and his friends. |
| 18:14 |
Peacock |
if you say so, i just think its more important to have decent flash support that doesn't kill the CPU |
| 18:14 |
Peacock |
a pulseaudio that works (after so many years) would be nice too |
| 18:14 |
Peacock |
wifi support without having to connect to the internet to download the wifi drivers lol |
| 18:15 |
Peacock |
etc.. |
| 18:15 |
svuorela |
the last point would require openness from the hardware manufacturers. |
| 18:15 |
svuorela |
and pulseaudio works these days. |
| 18:15 |
Peacock |
PA is shit on both my 7yr old rig and the new one |
| 18:15 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, I haven't had Flash installed in over a year, and I'm doing just fine. Give up on Flash already |
| 18:15 |
Peacock |
different cards, same problems |
| 18:15 |
PilzAdam |
PA = PilzAdam |
| 18:15 |
svuorela |
and no one wants to reverse engineer flash - and isn't it a technology of the last decade. |
| 18:16 |
svuorela |
PilzAdam: no. plasma active :) |
| 18:16 |
Menche |
you have PilzAdam on your machines? |
| 18:16 |
Peacock |
and this thing with openness from hardware manufacturers, you know thatll never happen, not 100% anyways |
| 18:16 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, Atheros is pretty open |
| 18:16 |
Peacock |
so blaming them while forcing users to download the drivers anyways from elsewhere is pointless imo |
| 18:16 |
svuorela |
Peacock: maybe you should make peacockix that does it your way ? |
| 18:16 |
Menche |
peackobuntu! |
| 18:17 |
Peacock |
im not interested in getting involved in that unholy mess lol |
| 18:17 |
Peacock |
i use linux, i like linux, but i acknowledge its limitations, and i dont encourage anyone uncomfortable with it to try it |
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| 18:18 |
* svuorela |
don't have computers that isn't linux machines. including my phones. |
| 18:18 |
Peacock |
all my rigs run linux save the newest which is dualboot (we bought it for games) |
| 18:18 |
* PenguinDad |
too. |
| 18:18 |
kahrl |
svuorela, even your car? |
| 18:18 |
* Menche |
installs linux on his toaster |
| 18:19 |
reactor |
to a new version of Windows, every computer is a toaster |
| 18:19 |
svuorela |
kahrl: I don't have a car. but linux is the new stuff in the car business. they're hiring linux devs like crazy. |
| 18:19 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, Linux's limitations have rarely bothered me. What limitations would you say are the biggest deal? |
| 18:19 |
PenguinDad |
Menche: Tiny Core Linux? |
| 18:19 |
Peacock |
updates, breakage, when it happens, it gobbles up a weekend |
| 18:19 |
Menche |
it seems i haven't had half the problems Peacock has had, especially with Arch |
| 18:20 |
Peacock |
the clumsyness of several apps interfaces is another |
| 18:20 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, on what distros? I've never had Debian or Mint break bc of updates |
| 18:20 |
svuorela |
Peacock: you shouldn't run gentoo or arch on production machines. |
| 18:20 |
Peacock |
network-manager sucks i have to use wicd to connect to my wifi |
| 18:20 |
Menche |
i use arch's netctl for networking |
| 18:20 |
Menche |
doesn't require a DE to be started :D |
| 18:20 |
Peacock |
typical install usually involves removing PA and falling back to alsa, removing network-manager and using wicd, etc. |
| 18:21 |
PilzAdam |
you cant just remove PilzAdam from your computer |
| 18:21 |
PenguinDad |
PilzAdam: he means Plasma Active :P |
| 18:22 |
svuorela |
installing plasma active on a desktop computer is a bit silly. |
| 18:22 |
kahrl |
PilzAdam: sudo apt-get install fungicide |
| 18:22 |
Menche |
that KDE's netbook interface? |
| 18:22 |
svuorela |
Menche: no. tablet/touch interface |
| 18:23 |
Peacock |
blenders' interface is the most confusing lol gimp switching between 1-window -> multi-window -> 1 window was annoying too :p |
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| 18:24 |
Peacock |
unity and gnome 3 were exercises in sadism and masochism |
| 18:24 |
Menche |
the first thing i do when opening gimp is switch it to single-window mode |
| 18:24 |
Peacock |
me too lol |
| 18:24 |
Menche |
blender... i never did figure that out |
| 18:25 |
Peacock |
having to open catalyst control using "amdcccle" was another *easy* one to figure out :P |
| 18:25 |
Menche |
the trend seems to be to put the same interface on a tablet/phone as on a desktop |
| 18:25 |
Peacock |
they put dumbass designers in charge lol |
| 18:25 |
Menche |
am i the only one who thinks that's a horrible idea? |
| 18:25 |
Peacock |
no |
| 18:25 |
Exio4 |
[15:14:24] <Peacock> if you say so, i just think its more important to have decent flash support that doesn't kill the CPU |
| 18:25 |
Exio4 |
two solutions |
| 18:26 |
Exio4 |
don't use flash or buy a new cpu, it is just shit |
| 18:26 |
Exio4 |
blame adobe |
| 18:26 |
Menche |
gnash works for me for what i use flash for |
| 18:26 |
Exio4 |
[15:14:32] <Peacock> a pulseaudio that works (after so many years) would be nice too |
| 18:26 |
svuorela |
Menche: no. it is not the trend. it is only gnome that thinks it is a good idea. |
| 18:26 |
Exio4 |
pulseaudio sucks, jackd ftw |
| 18:26 |
Menche |
and canonical and microsoft |
| 18:26 |
Peacock |
dont use flash LOL typical OSS response to any broken feature "you don't need it" :P |
| 18:26 |
Exio4 |
> OSS response |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
Peacock: flash sucks and needs to die |
| 18:26 |
Exio4 |
> flash |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
also: youtube has HTML 5 |
| 18:26 |
PenguinDad |
gtg |
| 18:26 |
Exio4 |
you say that like flash was opensource |
| 18:26 |
svuorela |
Menche: i think even canonical is doing separate and adapting interfaces for various formfactors. |
| 18:26 |
Peacock |
most sites havent switched yet |
| 18:27 |
Menche |
gnash works for most of what i need flash for |
| 18:27 |
Peacock |
no im saying opensource responds the same way everytime something doesn't work, they either deny it, or say you never really needed it |
| 18:27 |
kahrl |
I wish gnash worked on more sites that youtube, it's kind of useless on youtube because of html 5 |
| 18:27 |
kahrl |
than* |
| 18:27 |
Peacock |
which doesn't help their cause |
| 18:27 |
Menche |
there are some youtube videos that don't work with html5 |
| 18:28 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: if you are happy with windows 8 + metro it is ok for me |
| 18:28 |
Peacock |
no wonder so many opensourcers are sexually frustrated, porn sites don't work :p |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
Peacock: because you don't need it? |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
Peacock: that is harmful |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
please refrain from making such insults |
| 18:28 |
* Jordach |
figured out blender |
| 18:28 |
Peacock |
didn't know people were touchy about that |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
Peacock, Menche ^ |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
Peacock: "touchy"... |
| 18:28 |
* Calinou |
rolls eyes |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
porn works for me - i use windows |
| 18:29 |
Exio4 |
same here - under linux 8) |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
but then again i use request mobile version to get mp4 without flash |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
who needs porn when you-- |
| 18:29 |
* Calinou |
runs |
| 18:29 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, like I said, I'm doing fine w/o Flash. Firefox runs faster, and I don't have to worry about security as much |
| 18:29 |
Peacock |
so whenever someone complains about linux, you send them to windows, and when they use windows, you blast them for not using linux... cognitive dissonance much? |
| 18:29 |
Exio4 |
lordcirth: flashblock :P |
| 18:29 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: some users should never stop using windows |
| 18:30 |
reactor |
oh yeah |
| 18:30 |
Peacock |
where security's involved i worry more about javascript |
| 18:30 |
Exio4 |
noscript |
| 18:30 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, no, when they complain about Linux, you tell them what they are doing wrong. done |
| 18:30 |
Peacock |
and that helps adoption too |
| 18:31 |
Peacock |
the attitudes on most linux support boards explains why there will never be a year of the linux desktop :p |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
Peacock: there is |
| 18:31 |
Calinou |
for non-stupid people |
| 18:31 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, most people's complaints about Linux are just because they are trying to do something the Windows way, like manually installing a program. All you have to do is show them the package manager, and it's better than Windows |
| 18:32 |
Calinou |
you can manually install programs, it's good in the case you want to upgrade by reinstalling |
| 18:32 |
Calinou |
and package manager is not always available |
| 18:32 |
Exio4 |
ehm |
| 18:32 |
Peacock |
the way i see it, instead of dealing with the problem, they tend to attack the person |
| 18:32 |
kahrl |
[on] but if you install minetest via the package manager you might not be able to play on many servers |
| 18:32 |
Calinou |
Peacock: no? |
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| 18:33 |
lordcirth |
Calinou, but the average home user won't need anything outside the package manager |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
not really |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
13.04 repos don't even have SDL 2 |
| 18:33 |
Peacock |
yeah my package manager has minetest 0.3 |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
this means no stuntrally, no Tesseract |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
== PPA |
| 18:33 |
PilzAdam |
PilzyPilzAdam? |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
PPA == people in #ubuntu insult you |
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| 18:33 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, 0.4.7-1 here |
| 18:34 |
Prestotron |
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| 18:34 |
Peacock |
though its no surprise to me, OSS is mostly antisocial devs and delusional purists XD the most helpful people tend to be newbies |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
... |
| 18:34 |
Menche |
minetest is up to date in the Arch linux [community] repository |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
Peacock: there are tons of friendly developers |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
stop being such a pessimist |
| 18:34 |
Peacock |
id love to meet some :-) |
| 18:34 |
Calinou |
I know some |
| 18:34 |
Exio4 |
Calinou: http://dpaste.com/1334614/ |
| 18:34 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, try all the minetest devs? |
| 18:34 |
Peacock |
not a pessimist, been using linux since 2003-2004 |
| 18:35 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: most of devs are friendly until you ask dumb questions and start being annoying |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
how do i use the mapgen that doesnt generate anything |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
that doesn't make you not-pessimist |
| 18:35 |
Menche |
singlenode? |
| 18:35 |
Exio4 |
Jordach: mods |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
mhm |
| 18:35 |
Exio4 |
:P |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
Exio4: suddenly: #xonotic |
| 18:35 |
Peacock |
means ive seen enough |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
Menche, care to explain |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
Exio4: debian sid? |
| 18:35 |
Exio4 |
yes |
| 18:35 |
Calinou |
well, sid is unstable, and suffers from the usual debian problems |
| 18:35 |
Exio4 |
"unstable" |
| 18:36 |
Menche |
don't know how, you need a mod that adds lua map generation |
| 18:36 |
Peacock |
on other projects ive been accused of being a paid microsoft shill for daring to file bug reports - if they paid me to do that i wouldn't need to use free software lol |
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| 18:36 |
lordcirth |
Calinou, what are the "usual debian problems" ? |
| 18:36 |
Menche |
paramat has one i think |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, how do i disable the mapgen |
| 18:36 |
Exio4 |
here too http://dpaste.com/1334621/ |
| 18:36 |
Calinou |
lordcirth: beeping at boot, no firmware by default, bad installer |
| 18:36 |
Exio4 |
beeping at boot? wat |
| 18:36 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, there is no way to disable mapgen |
| 18:36 |
* Jordach |
means singlenode |
| 18:37 |
Jordach |
that one that generates AIR |
| 18:37 |
Menche |
select it on world creation |
| 18:37 |
lordcirth |
Calinou, blacklist pcspkr, what firmware? , I like the debian installer myself |
| 18:37 |
PilzAdam |
mg_name = singlenode in minetest.conf |
| 18:37 |
Menche |
or that ^ |
| 18:37 |
Exio4 |
the debian installer is awesomely nice |
| 18:37 |
Calinou |
lordcirth: your blacklist isn't default |
| 18:37 |
Calinou |
Exio4: doesn't use native resolution, takes up the whole screen (quite fugly) |
| 18:37 |
lordcirth |
Calinou, no, but it's one quick edit to a text file, and it goes away |
| 18:38 |
Prestotron |
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| 18:38 |
Calinou |
yes, still happens at first boot |
| 18:38 |
Calinou |
ubuntu doesn't do that |
| 18:38 |
lordcirth |
Calinou, it's an installer, who cares if it's ugly? |
| 18:38 |
Exio4 |
Calinou: ubuntu! lets see how mir is awesome! |
| 18:38 |
Calinou |
so please don't come and say "ubuntu sucks" |
| 18:38 |
Calinou |
Exio4: xubuntu and stuff won't use it for a while |
| 18:38 |
Exio4 |
xubuntu will have to use it |
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| 18:38 |
Calinou |
or not? |
| 18:38 |
Menche |
nah, ubuntu is amazing because it doesn't beep on startup :P |
| 18:38 |
Peacock |
VLC finally fixed the video cropping bug not after the bug report, but after posting on their facebook page that i'd been waiting for a fix for a year and a half |
| 18:39 |
Calinou |
Menche: some laptops have insanely loud speakers |
| 18:39 |
Calinou |
this is a serious issue |
| 18:39 |
Exio4 |
serious issue |
| 18:39 |
Exio4 |
it never beeped for me |
| 18:39 |
Peacock |
^netbooks not loud enough |
| 18:39 |
Menche |
i think my computer doesn't have a buzzer |
| 18:39 |
Calinou |
it can still be done by software |
| 18:39 |
Calinou |
and you can't remove it in laptops :P |
| 18:39 |
lordcirth |
I don't think mine has one |
| 18:40 |
Calinou |
some have |
| 18:40 |
Menche |
I prefer Arch's method of installing. it's much more flexible and easy to understand what's going on. |
| 18:40 |
Exio4 |
alinou's reasons are like the guy that said linux sucks because gnome2 by default looked ugly |
| 18:40 |
Peacock |
normally you can turn the beep on/off in the BIOS? |
| 18:40 |
Exio4 |
C* |
| 18:40 |
Peacock |
DE's can be changed, buggy drivers not so obvious sometimes |
| 18:40 |
Peacock |
especially when they preload the crappiest ones |
| 18:41 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: it is meant for Calinou |
| 18:41 |
Exio4 |
saying *default* sucks |
| 18:41 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, only drivers I've had problems with are graphics drivers |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
arch sucks |
| 18:41 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, why is the map completely BLACK when using singlenode |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
they don't care for ease of install |
| 18:41 |
Peacock |
well isn't that enough if you cant boot up with a fresh install? |
| 18:41 |
Exio4 |
arch is easy to install |
| 18:41 |
Menche |
ease of install is subjective |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
Exio4: no, they aren't |
| 18:41 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, it isnt |
| 18:41 |
Exio4 |
it is |
| 18:41 |
Menche |
and it's not really the most important thing either |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
some laptops have loud enough speakers to hurt your ears |
| 18:41 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, is for me |
| 18:41 |
Calinou |
gnome 2 won't do that |
| 18:42 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, do you have the nolight flag set? |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
no |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
just singlenode |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
mg_flags=singlenode |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
Peacock: laptops have castrated BIOSes |
| 18:42 |
Calinou |
same for any OEM PC |
| 18:42 |
Exio4 |
mg_name |
| 18:42 |
Menche |
i would rather use software with "doing it's job well" as the main focus rather that "easy to learn and use" |
| 18:42 |
Menche |
*than |
| 18:42 |
Jordach |
Exio4, it is mg_name; i typo'd |
| 18:42 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, mg_name |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
Menche: subjective? never figured out how to install it |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
mg_name = singlenode |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
while ubuntu is just ~10 clicks |
| 18:43 |
kahrl |
Jordach, do you have any mod that defines the alias mapgen_singlenode |
| 18:43 |
Jordach |
^ that's in my conf |
| 18:43 |
lordcirth |
Calinou, the archwiki says that ease of install isn't a priority, since as a rolling-release distro, you only install it once. |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
yet I use linux since 2009 |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
lordcirth: what if you need to reinstall it for any reason? |
| 18:43 |
Exio4 |
Calinou: i use linux since 2009 too |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
"YOLO" style sucks |
| 18:43 |
lordcirth |
Calinou, try Gentoo install :P |
| 18:43 |
Menche |
so you have to learn how, poor baby... |
| 18:43 |
Calinou |
1) stop insulting me 2) your time is more precious than computer time |
| 18:43 |
Exio4 |
it means learn how to read Menche |
| 18:44 |
Menche |
Arch has excellent documentation |
| 18:44 |
lordcirth |
Calinou, Then you reinstall. But there's little reason you would need to, especially if you keep backups to roll back to |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
it does |
| 18:44 |
Exio4 |
Calinou: installing archlinux is easy, you just read and apply logic to the commands you type |
| 18:44 |
Peacock |
arch docs used to be excellent :p |
| 18:44 |
Menche |
Peacock, used to? |
| 18:44 |
Calinou |
yet they don't automate obvious stuff |
| 18:44 |
Peacock |
there weren't so many outdated sections a year ago |
| 18:44 |
Exio4 |
your only argument calinou? |
| 18:44 |
Menche |
i *like* that they don't automate everything |
| 18:45 |
Exio4 |
^ me too |
| 18:45 |
Menche |
i can see what's going on |
| 18:45 |
Evergreen |
PilzAdam: May I ask what the .mts schematic files are in your pilztest game? |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
in ubuntu, you can also see the console |
| 18:45 |
lordcirth |
Calinou, they used to automate some parts of the install, but sometimes the scripts would break things. So now they don't |
| 18:45 |
PilzAdam |
Evergreen, minetest schematics |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
more like, noone cared about it |
| 18:45 |
Menche |
say, if a daemon gets sucked in as a dependency, debian enables it automatically even if you don't want it |
| 18:45 |
Peacock |
and having to sort through a dozen anouncements before finding out that updating glibc can break your system was another uniquely arch thing lol |
| 18:45 |
Evergreen |
Is there any way of opening them? How do you use them? |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
just usual ubuntu hate in this channel |
| 18:45 |
Menche |
with arch you can choose whetheror not to enable it |
| 18:45 |
Calinou |
people liking it are usually not so vocal, unlike arch |
| 18:46 |
lordcirth |
I don't hate Ubuntu. I think it's too slow, myself, tho |
| 18:46 |
Exio4 |
Calinou: canonical, the shitty thing behind ubuntu made it worse than it was |
| 18:46 |
kahrl |
Evergreen, worldedit has a command to place them |
| 18:46 |
Peacock |
people hate unity not ubuntu itself, and prolly a little canonical hate in there |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
Exio4: I'm talking about xubuntu of course |
| 18:46 |
Evergreen |
Oh, yes I forgot |
| 18:46 |
Menche |
Peacock, dozen announcements? i usually only have to read one announcement to get important warnings |
| 18:46 |
PilzAdam |
Evergreen, they are read and placed by the engine |
| 18:46 |
lordcirth |
yes, also 13.04 has spyware |
| 18:46 |
Evergreen |
Thanks |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
lordcirth: no, it does not |
| 18:46 |
Exio4 |
Calinou: you say that like it was "able" to skip the canonical shit that is behind |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
you might as well not use anything proprietary |
| 18:46 |
Evergreen |
How do you create them? With worldedit? |
| 18:46 |
Calinou |
Exio4: that's pretty true, xubuntu is community-based. |
| 18:46 |
Peacock |
well enjoy arch, i dont have so much time to put on it, got work to do and all |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
and not commercially sponored by canonical |
| 18:47 |
Menche |
Peacock, and those are pretty rare, updates usually go pretty smoothly |
| 18:47 |
lordcirth |
Calinou, it auto-sends your searches to a Canonical server, without asking. = spyware |
| 18:47 |
Exio4 |
xubuntu is seriously thinking in switching 'out of ubuntu' Calinou |
| 18:47 |
Exio4 |
because the canonical shit is getting too hard to keep outside |
| 18:47 |
kahrl |
Evergreen: yep, or with custom scripts |
| 18:47 |
PilzAdam |
Evergreen, minetest.create_schematic() |
| 18:47 |
lordcirth |
Exio4, what would they do? rebase on Debian testing? |
| 18:47 |
Evergreen |
Thanks for your help |
| 18:47 |
kahrl |
(there is no standalone editor for them yet, afaik) |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
lordcirth: mint already has a debian edition, which also beeps on boot :P |
| 18:47 |
Peacock |
crunchbang rebased to debian, it started out *buntu |
| 18:47 |
Evergreen |
It would be nice if there was |
| 18:47 |
Exio4 |
no idea what they would exactly do, but it is more for trying canonical to get its work properly done |
| 18:47 |
lordcirth |
Peacock, #! is awesome |
| 18:47 |
Calinou |
lordcirth: 1) only unity do that 2) it is opt-out 3) if you never use the dash, that doesn't happen |
| 18:47 |
Peacock |
my fav |
| 18:48 |
Evergreen |
IS it possible to add some randomness to the schematics files? Eg, trees |
| 18:48 |
Peacock |
#! right mix of "already working" and "not too bloated" |
| 18:48 |
PilzAdam |
Evergreen, yes |
| 18:48 |
PilzAdam |
see the lua-api.txt |
| 18:48 |
Evergreen |
Okay, thanks |
| 18:49 |
lordcirth |
Calinou, 1) It comes with Unity, so Ubuntu does it, 2) Should be opt-in 3) Don't use your desktop search? really? |
| 18:49 |
Calinou |
when I used unity, I never used it |
| 18:49 |
Jordach |
kahrl, set singlenode to air: http://i.imgur.com/Fz1gJo9.png |
| 18:49 |
Peacock |
minetest question: how do a create a waterworld? |
| 18:49 |
Peacock |
*do i |
| 18:49 |
Peacock |
i tried setting water level higher, but that raised the ground too :/ |
| 18:49 |
kahrl |
Jordach: try //relight? |
| 18:49 |
sdzen |
when I used unity, I installed gnome 3 the next day |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
kahrl, invalid command |
| 18:50 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, singlenode and add a mod with minetest.register_alias("mapgen_singlenode", "default:water_source") |
| 18:50 |
Calinou |
use singlenode, use a mod to put water below a certain layer |
| 18:50 |
kahrl |
or whatever the worldedit command is to relight |
| 18:50 |
Peacock |
cool, but if i wanted an ocean floor (like the movie itself "Waterworld") |
| 18:50 |
Menche |
PilzAdam, wouldn't that make it solid water from bottom to top? |
| 18:51 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, yes |
| 18:51 |
PilzAdam |
waterworld |
| 18:51 |
Peacock |
ah poop thats not what i want :/ |
| 18:51 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, does "mapgen_air" work, because for some reason that game wont do "air" |
| 18:51 |
PilzAdam |
there is a floor of content_ignore at -310000 :-p |
| 18:51 |
lordcirth |
A game where you started in a base under the sea, with drowning enabled, would be really cool |
| 18:51 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 18:51 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, what game do you use? |
| 18:51 |
Jordach |
minetest_game |
| 18:51 |
Jordach |
from the 0.4.7 release |
| 18:52 |
kahrl |
"air" is defined in builtin, all games have it |
| 18:52 |
Peacock |
well a waterworld type map where you start out at a floating spawn city (or rig) |
| 18:52 |
Peacock |
if you want to farm you have to make it to ground level, get the dirt, bring it back up |
| 18:52 |
Peacock |
game idea for anyone who's interested |
| 18:52 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, placing a block with WE works for me |
| 18:52 |
Peacock |
i was thinking youd probably need a water_level and ground_level param tho |
| 18:53 |
Peacock |
or use the ore trick the same way moonrealm does it with atmos |
| 18:53 |
Peacock |
it would be like skyblock but on water :p |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, even placing a torch does nothing |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
if i move 16 blocks away, everything's black |
| 18:54 |
Jordach |
you MIGHT want to fix that |
| 18:55 |
PilzAdam |
nothing to fix if it works for me |
| 18:55 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, 0.4.7-win32 |
| 18:55 |
PilzAdam |
try creating new worlds |
| 18:55 |
Jordach |
use that game |
| 18:55 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, several return the same result |
| 18:56 |
Exio4 |
start your mt.conf from scratch |
| 18:56 |
Peacock |
heck i think ill give this waterworld thing a shot, though i cant run two servers at once :( |
| 18:57 |
Peacock |
if ground level is default, what would be a good water height? 100, 200, |
| 18:57 |
Jordach |
Exio4, jsut did: still black |
| 18:57 |
Jordach |
it's just two lines: video_driver = direct3d9 |
| 18:57 |
Jordach |
mg_name = singlenode |
| 18:57 |
Jordach |
yes ShadowBot; just under your four line limit |
| 18:57 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: why not? |
| 18:57 |
kahrl |
ha! I found a nyancat when falling to -31000 in a singlenode world |
| 18:58 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, minetest.register_alias("mapgen_singlenode", "air") |
| 18:58 |
PilzAdam |
kahrl, coords and seed |
| 18:58 |
Jordach |
^ that should work |
| 18:58 |
Peacock |
exio4 pings' pretty high as it is with 1 |
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Peacock |
i could copy people's projects from my current server to the new one |
| 18:59 |
kahrl |
PilzAdam: seed 101465498286374589, (-10,-26586,-42) |
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Peacock |
109 autobans lol |
| 19:00 |
Exio4 |
lol, -26586 |
| 19:01 |
Octupuslegs |
hello |
| 19:03 |
* Jordach |
is looking for a build that doesnt break 0.4.7 world compat |
| 19:03 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, every build from me |
| 19:04 |
PenguinDad |
</propaganda> |
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Exio4 |
https://xkcd.com/743/ |
| 19:09 |
lordcirth |
Exio4, there's an xkcd for every occasion |
| 19:09 |
Jordach |
weird; any build with lua main menu it works fine |
| 19:11 |
Exio4 |
lordcirth: yeah |
| 19:11 |
PilzAdam |
new win32 build: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 |
| 19:11 |
PilzAdam |
^ Jordach |
| 19:12 |
Jordach |
meh, im using a two week old build on purpose |
| 19:12 |
Peacock |
this is helpful - right click button doesnt work on mouse anymore lol |
| 19:12 |
Peacock |
cheap OEM mouse |
| 19:12 |
Menche |
pretend you're on a Mac laptop |
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Menche |
those don't HAVE a right mouse button |
| 19:13 |
Calinou |
there still is |
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Peacock |
thinking maybe i can reassign right click button to scrollwheel button lol |
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Exio4 |
lol https://xkcd.com/1200/ |
| 19:13 |
Menche |
...or any mouse buttons whatsoever on the newer ones |
| 19:13 |
Octupuslegs |
hi |
| 19:14 |
Menche |
hi |
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Prestotron |
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Exio4 |
hahaha https://xkcd.com/364/ |
| 19:14 |
Calinou |
no he's busy with Rainbow Dash |
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Prestotron |
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Prestotron |
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| 19:15 |
Tesseract |
sfan5: It seems WE //set doesn't call update_liquids properly. |
| 19:15 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4 seems to be in the xkcd trap |
| 19:15 |
Exio4 |
i have nothing to do |
| 19:15 |
PilzAdam |
Tesseract, the vmanip version? |
| 19:15 |
Exio4 |
give me something to read and i will stop |
| 19:16 |
Tesseract |
PilzAdam: Yes, it is in master now. |
| 19:16 |
PilzAdam |
!g long text for Exio4 |
| 19:16 |
MinetestBot |
PilzAdam: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-07-29 |
| 19:16 |
Prestotron |
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Exio4 |
lolol |
| 19:16 |
Tesseract |
...And it has a number of issues... |
| 19:16 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, read it :-p |
| 19:16 |
Exio4 |
"read logs" |
| 19:16 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:16 |
Peacock |
sweet waterworld works, though the cavegen put airpockets everywhere lol |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
disable caves |
| 19:17 |
Peacock |
and trees lol |
| 19:17 |
Peacock |
is 200m too high? |
| 19:17 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, you can disable caves and trees with mg_flags |
| 19:17 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:17 |
Calinou |
Prestotron: ignored |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
? |
| 19:18 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:18 |
Exio4 |
and now that you called him Pilz you never will |
| 19:18 |
Miner_48er |
what setting needs to be changed to not have a server listed on the public list? |
| 19:18 |
Jordach |
Prestotron, PilzAdam is always like that |
| 19:18 |
Exio4 |
:> |
| 19:18 |
Peacock |
uncheck public :p |
| 19:18 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:18 |
Miner_48er |
thx |
| 19:19 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, you can dive -45 with the current breath system |
| 19:19 |
Peacock |
so maybe, water level at 100 then? |
| 19:19 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:19 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:19 |
Menche |
/msg |
| 19:20 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:20 |
Peacock |
oups i need to add a bubble.png lol |
| 19:21 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:21 |
PilzAdam |
yes? |
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Prestotron |
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| 19:21 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:21 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 19:22 |
Prestotron |
[deleted] |
| 19:22 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
| 19:23 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:23 |
PilzAdam |
lol |
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Prestotron |
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| 19:23 |
Octupuslegs |
hi babyface1031 |
| 19:24 |
Peacock |
its so much easier to assign blame when you have two personalities :p |
| 19:24 |
babyface1031 |
hi Octupuslegs |
| 19:24 |
PilzAdam |
this is very funny |
| 19:24 |
PilzAdam |
read the logs of yesterday |
| 19:24 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:24 |
Menche |
what, about how minetest_game isn't official? |
| 19:25 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:25 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, no |
| 19:26 |
Octupuslegs |
can anyone see this? |
| 19:26 |
babyface1031 |
yes |
| 19:26 |
Octupuslegs |
ok |
| 19:26 |
PilzAdam |
Prestotron, it starts here: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-08-06#i_3241859 |
| 19:27 |
PilzAdam |
read what niften says |
| 19:28 |
Prestotron |
[deleted] |
| 19:28 |
PilzAdam |
until 17:30 or so |
| 19:29 |
Octupuslegs |
Hero |
| 19:29 |
PenguinDad |
I only say COBAL-Programmer from FreedroidRPG. |
| 19:30 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:30 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:30 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:30 |
Prestotron |
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| 19:31 |
Peacock |
be polite, use "phallus" |
| 19:31 |
Peacock |
:p |
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| 19:31 |
Peacock |
waterworld experimental up |
| 19:32 |
Evergreen |
Do you think it would be a good idea to make a complete n00b's guide to installing mods/installing texture packs/making mods? |
| 19:32 |
Evergreen |
So people won't come to us and completely annoy us? |
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| 19:32 |
Evergreen |
If I make it, I will put screen shots so there aren't any questions |
| 19:33 |
Octupuslegs |
anyone see this? |
| 19:33 |
PilzAdam |
the are tutorials |
| 19:33 |
Evergreen |
However, I don't use windows |
| 19:33 |
Calinou |
there already is, people don't read them |
| 19:33 |
PilzAdam |
but we cant teach people how to use a PC |
| 19:33 |
Calinou |
^ |
| 19:33 |
Evergreen |
Yes, true |
| 19:33 |
Evergreen |
I suppose it would solve anything, so it is kind of pointless |
| 19:33 |
Evergreen |
*sigh* |
| 19:34 |
Evergreen |
It's just that I am a nice person, and I don't want t completely estroy newbies, but it gets extremely annoying trying to explain to them how to do something |
| 19:34 |
Evergreen |
*destroy |
| 19:35 |
Peacock |
weird, why doesnt water fill in holes? |
| 19:35 |
PilzAdam |
Evergreen, just ignore them |
| 19:35 |
Calinou |
Evergreen: necessary bad thing of life |
| 19:36 |
PilzAdam |
if you dont ignore them you end up like me ;-) |
| 19:36 |
PenguinDad |
PilzAdam: I do that now |
| 19:36 |
Peacock |
http://s21.postimg.org/9wq4hpcwn/screenshot_1514618923.png |
| 19:36 |
Peacock |
is finite water on by default now? |
| 19:37 |
Evergreen |
No |
| 19:37 |
Peacock |
so why do i have this hole in the ocean? |
| 19:37 |
PenguinDad |
PilzAdam: then i don't ignore them :P |
| 19:38 |
sdzen |
I call it the shadow effect Peacock |
| 19:38 |
Peacock |
omg it finally filled in, 2 minutes later lol |
| 19:38 |
sdzen |
I noticed these holes in the ocean around the same time the massive lighting errors in minetest caused the floating island effect :) |
| 19:39 |
PilzAdam |
liquid_update = 0.4 and liquid_loop_max = 10000 should help |
| 19:39 |
PilzAdam |
^ Peacock |
| 19:39 |
Peacock |
i put these in minetest.conf or map_meta? |
| 19:39 |
PilzAdam |
minetest.conf |
| 19:39 |
Peacock |
thanks |
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Tesseract |
VanessaE: .../pipeworks/flowing_logic.lua:81: bad argument #1 to 'get_node' (table expected, got nil) |
| 19:40 |
Peacock |
no pos |
| 19:41 |
Exio4 |
invalid place, more like unknown chunk |
| 19:41 |
PilzAdam |
it returns content_ignore when the chunk is unloaded |
| 19:41 |
Peacock |
mine doesn't do that so someone else rewrote it |
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Exio4 |
PilzAdam: oh, get_node_or_nil |
| 19:44 |
Exio4 |
k |
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Peacock |
http://s21.postimg.org/hgk4mi3yv/screenshot_1515495588.jpg |
| 19:56 |
Calinou |
a node = a autobanned user |
| 19:56 |
Calinou |
:p |
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| 19:57 |
Peacock |
? |
| 19:58 |
Calinou |
in your circle |
| 19:58 |
Peacock |
different nations for that map :p |
| 19:58 |
Peacock |
gonna add walkways, 20 nodes away from spawncircle is buildable |
| 19:59 |
Peacock |
just need to setup a spawn teleporter so people down spawn underwater lol |
| 20:01 |
Jordach |
how does worldmods work again (does it even work anymore?) |
| 20:01 |
PilzAdam |
put them in world-dir/worldmods/ |
| 20:02 |
sdzen |
I thought that was broken.... |
| 20:04 |
* sdzen |
tests it |
| 20:04 |
sdzen |
huh |
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| 20:06 |
sdzen |
wait is was the cramming of gamemodes into a world folder that was broken |
| 20:06 |
sdzen |
it was* |
| 20:07 |
PilzAdam |
why would you place games in worlds? |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, i need a special node; because water must not flow |
| 20:07 |
Calinou |
use alpha-channel'd texture :P |
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| 20:08 |
PilzAdam |
glasslike with use_texture_alpha should work |
| 20:10 |
Jordach |
nope. solved with with a airlike node |
| 20:11 |
PilzAdam |
sfan5, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104509#p104509 lol? |
| 20:11 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, oh, you want to block water from flowing? |
| 20:11 |
PilzAdam |
yea, airlike works pretty good there |
| 20:11 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, yes, but i solved that myself |
| 20:11 |
PilzAdam |
(I used it for rebuilding the Minetest logo too) |
| 20:12 |
Jordach |
fun fact: this map i'm making is identical to the blender model i made of blockmen's wallpaper one |
| 20:12 |
Jordach |
i made a copy of a copy, which was made from a copu |
| 20:12 |
Jordach |
copy* |
| 20:14 |
Menche |
hampa16 likes spoiler tags |
| 20:14 |
Menche |
<hampa16> /!\WARNING/!\ i just reported you sfan for closing my topic for no reason |
| 20:15 |
Menche |
look out hampa's going to get you! |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
btw, i made it so you can make coal by smelting tree nodes |
| 20:15 |
Jordach |
because you cant survive without torches |
| 20:15 |
Peacock |
yay, setup spawnpad at spawncircle |
| 20:15 |
kahrl |
es tobt der hampa vor meinem fenster |
| 20:16 |
Peacock |
FPS is actually pretty high when the bottom ~100 nodes is all water lol |
| 20:19 |
Menche |
GGA finally uploaded his "Comes Alive" mod. Features: NOTHING! (the archive he posted is empty) |
| 20:20 |
Calinou |
features: it's a .rar |
| 20:20 |
PenguinDad |
Menche: and it's a RAR file |
| 20:20 |
proller |
water world without finite_liquid ?? |
| 20:20 |
Menche |
is there anything wrong with rar besides not being supported by default on windows? |
| 20:21 |
Menche |
(not that i'd want to use it; if i didn't care about windows support i'd use .tar.gz) |
| 20:21 |
sdzen |
I like 7z |
| 20:21 |
sdzen |
I played with that format once |
| 20:21 |
Menche |
i know it supports encryption |
| 20:21 |
Calinou |
7z is a more featureful .xz |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
Menche: rar is proprietary, and isn't the best |
| 20:22 |
proller |
windows supports only zip by default |
| 20:22 |
kahrl |
and .cab |
| 20:22 |
PenguinDad |
Today: Archive Wars |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
there was distro war already |
| 20:22 |
Menche |
.cab? i've only seen that as a part of setup programs |
| 20:23 |
sdzen |
wow |
| 20:23 |
Menche |
we should mandate the usage of .tar.xz |
| 20:23 |
sdzen |
I havent had to open a cab file in a few months |
| 20:23 |
proller |
cab == zip |
| 20:23 |
Menche |
all other formats suck </archive war> |
| 20:23 |
Menche |
jk |
| 20:23 |
proller |
++ xz |
| 20:24 |
sdzen |
we should just have them download everything direct then give them cryptic instructions on what folders to put them in |
| 20:24 |
Menche |
some mods are done that way |
| 20:24 |
Menche |
put the code in [code] tags |
| 20:24 |
sdzen |
:) |
| 20:24 |
PilzAdam |
is there a way I can get the position of the healthbar in the HUD? |
| 20:25 |
Menche |
actually we shouldn't use archives at all. git is superior. |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
quite few projects use .tar.xz |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
I know stuntrally uses it, good |
| 20:25 |
Menche |
i know archlinux uses .tar.xz to compress it's packages |
| 20:25 |
proller |
Calinou, freebsd uses xz for default now |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
its* |
| 20:25 |
sdzen |
tell that to the idiots who don't understand using git or uncompressing anything other then zip |
| 20:25 |
Menche |
cue archlinux hate from Calinou |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
debian still uses gz |
| 20:26 |
kahrl |
I don't know why nobody knows about BARF but it compresses files to 0 bytes if applied recursively |
| 20:26 |
kahrl |
must be some kind of government conspiracy to not let people know about it |
| 20:27 |
PilzAdam |
rm compresses pretty good too |
| 20:27 |
svuorela |
I use md5 for good compression |
| 20:27 |
Menche |
you can compress your entire drive with mkfs |
| 20:28 |
kahrl |
Menche, or just sit on it |
| 20:28 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: EDITOR=/bin/rm |
| 20:28 |
Menche |
(if you don't care about getting the data back, that is. it does free up a TON of space) |
| 20:30 |
Peacock |
hm, just got the dragged out to inf bug |
| 20:30 |
Menche |
minecraft uses .jar therefore we have to |
| 20:30 |
Calinou |
fun fact: .jar is modified .zip |
| 20:31 |
sdzen |
fun face, I once renamed a .zip to a .crap and sent it to someone |
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| 20:31 |
sdzen |
it opened in a image viewer on a mac |
| 20:31 |
Menche |
lol |
| 20:32 |
Menche |
mac opens .crap files? |
| 20:32 |
Calinou |
OS X* |
| 20:32 |
Calinou |
Mac is Apple's computer brand |
| 20:32 |
sdzen |
eh |
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| 20:32 |
sdzen |
its all shit :) |
| 20:32 |
Menche |
which, contrary to popular belief, IS a brand of PC |
| 20:33 |
sdzen |
yay! someone other then me who knows that! |
| 20:33 |
* Menche |
twitches when people say "Mac and PC" |
| 20:33 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: debian uses gz, but you can use .xz for .debs as long as their name stays at (data|control).tar.gz |
| 20:34 |
* Menche |
looks through his archive manager's list of supported formats * what about .cbz or .cpio? |
| 20:34 |
Menche |
wait, i can compress as a .exe? |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
SFX, self-extractive |
| 20:34 |
Jordach |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104521#p104521 |
| 20:34 |
Tesseract |
LOL |
| 20:34 |
Jordach |
new map |
| 20:35 |
Calinou |
lol "extractive" is a valid word |
| 20:35 |
Calinou |
hi cube 2 with real time lights |
| 20:35 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, ^ |
| 20:35 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: please use sfan5.duckdns.org instead of dyndns |
| 20:35 |
Jordach |
i made a map :) |
| 20:35 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, replied |
| 20:35 |
svuorela |
sfan5: data.tar.xz has been allowed since ages and is the default since like yseterday |
| 20:36 |
sfan5 |
svuorela: not in debain |
| 20:36 |
Calinou |
debain :D |
| 20:36 |
sfan5 |
plol |
| 20:36 |
PenguinDad |
plol |
| 20:36 |
svuorela |
sfan5: yes. in debian. |
| 20:36 |
sfan5 |
s/debian/debain/ all the things! |
| 20:37 |
PilzAdam |
plol – Copyright (C) 2013 PilzAdam |
| 20:37 |
svuorela |
sfan5: http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/dpkg/news/20130727T040302Z.html - look for 'xz' |
| 20:37 |
Menche |
an enhanced version of lol |
| 20:37 |
sfan5 |
Menche: p = physically |
| 20:37 |
Tesseract |
Jordach: You need a cactus. |
| 20:38 |
svuorela |
sfan5: and in debian stable, most my packages are actually having data.tar.xz files to make it better fit on a cd. |
| 20:38 |
Menche |
you can laugh out loud not-physically? |
| 20:38 |
sdzen |
well call me amazed |
| 20:38 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, yes, in the internet you can |
| 20:38 |
sdzen |
.cab files are actually smaller then a zip |
| 20:38 |
sdzen |
hmmm |
| 20:38 |
Menche |
only irc doesn't have sound |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, Evergreen: refresh topic |
| 20:39 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: lol, you don't need to reupload them |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
sfan5, a tip would have been nice |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
sfan5, fuck it |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
fuck.it |
| 20:39 |
sfan5 |
its only a different domain |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
actually, http://fuck.it |
| 20:39 |
sfan5 |
!title |
| 20:39 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Can't connect to http://fuck.it |
| 20:39 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: you mean http://no.pe |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
!title |
| 20:39 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: nope.avi |
| 20:40 |
Jordach |
ahhh! |
| 20:40 |
Jordach |
:D |
| 20:40 |
* Jordach |
likes that |
| 20:40 |
Menche |
missing plugin |
| 20:40 |
sfan5 |
^ haha |
| 20:40 |
* Jordach |
flaps arms crazily |
| 20:40 |
PenguinDad |
sdzen: cab files are using another algorithm |
| 20:41 |
Exio4 |
[17:30:40] <Calinou> fun fact: .jar is modified .zip |
| 20:41 |
Exio4 |
modified? since when |
| 20:41 |
Jordach |
sfan5, Evergreen: it works in 0.4.7-win32 |
| 20:41 |
Exio4 |
it IS .zip |
| 20:41 |
Jordach |
i tested before upload |
| 20:41 |
Evergreen |
Why are you telling me this? :S |
| 20:41 |
Evergreen |
I use ubuntu |
| 20:41 |
Jordach |
ah |
| 20:41 |
Jordach |
the lazy bastards debian |
| 20:42 |
Jordach |
that is what ubuntu is |
| 20:42 |
Evergreen |
Are you calling be a bastard? >:O |
| 20:42 |
Tesseract |
Exio4: Same with .apk. |
| 20:42 |
Jordach |
no.pe |
| 20:42 |
Exio4 |
Tesseract: yeah |
| 20:42 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, i wouldnt, as you're planning on upgrading |
| 20:42 |
Menche |
lets just use OSX .dmg images |
| 20:42 |
Jordach |
to xubuntu, which is the rich man's ubuntu - it looks nice and wont backstab |
| 20:43 |
Exio4 |
so |
| 20:43 |
Exio4 |
what could i do? |
| 20:43 |
Exio4 |
oh |
| 20:43 |
Exio4 |
i have something to do |
| 20:43 |
Exio4 |
nvm |
| 20:43 |
Evergreen |
Who said I was planning on upgrading? I do think it would be good to upgrade, but I don't to lose any of my installed libraries/programs |
| 20:43 |
Jordach |
(to be fair; i used ubuntu too; before the amazon search - before shunity came in) |
| 20:43 |
sdzen |
Menche, fuck no! |
| 20:43 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, sudo apt-get install xfce-desktop |
| 20:44 |
Evergreen |
That's it? |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
then somehome remove unity |
| 20:44 |
sfan5 |
efwefwefkjowefweiof |
| 20:44 |
sfan5 |
ASWFWEf |
| 20:44 |
sfan5 |
!!! |
| 20:44 |
sfan5 |
SDFWEf |
| 20:44 |
PenguinDad |
node version manager |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, that installs xfce4 |
| 20:44 |
* sfan5 |
is fucking annoyed |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
if i'm right |
| 20:44 |
PenguinDad |
nvm |
| 20:44 |
Menche |
i never did figure out why OSX uses disk images for everything |
| 20:44 |
Evergreen |
Ah, ok |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
sfan5, whatr |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
-r |
| 20:44 |
sdzen |
because they needed one format to rule them all |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
pm me the problem |
| 20:44 |
Menche |
so in true apple style they invented a new one to use exclusively |
| 20:45 |
Jordach |
Nokia > Apple |
| 20:45 |
Menche |
and to not support on anything else |
| 20:45 |
Jordach |
at least nokia made an OSS OS |
| 20:45 |
Jordach |
:> |
| 20:45 |
* Jordach |
gives sfan5 a kitten |
| 20:45 |
* sfan5 |
throws the kitten at Jordach |
| 20:45 |
Exio4 |
Jordach: suddenly: WP |
| 20:45 |
Menche |
btw, is there any way to open a .pages document in anything other that pages? i assume no. |
| 20:45 |
Menche |
*than |
| 20:46 |
Jordach |
Exio4, i was talking about the Nokia Pureview 808: 40 MegaPixel camera |
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| 20:46 |
sfan5 |
Menche: open it in a hex editor :D |
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| 20:46 |
Jordach |
in the back of a phone |
| 20:46 |
Octupuslegs |
Hi |
| 20:46 |
kaeza |
hi |
| 20:47 |
kaeza |
yay found my old PSX, and it works perfectly ^_^ |
| 20:47 |
kaeza |
spend the entire evening playing CTR |
| 20:47 |
kaeza |
spent* |
| 20:48 |
* Jordach |
#minetest throws a kitten at sfan5 |
| 20:48 |
sfan5 |
weghhu+ |
| 20:48 |
sfan5 |
hhbkjä+ |
| 20:48 |
Jordach |
shit |
| 20:48 |
Jordach |
fucking user buttons |
| 20:48 |
sfan5 |
gaahahahahahaha |
| 20:48 |
sfan5 |
fwefwef |
| 20:48 |
sfan5 |
fuck |
| 20:48 |
sfan5 |
shit |
| 20:48 |
sfan5 |
fuck |
| 20:48 |
|
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| 20:48 |
sfan5 |
ShadowBot: ijhnbj |
| 20:48 |
* Jordach |
throws a kitten at ShadowBot |
| 20:48 |
sfan5 |
ShadowBot: stfu |
| 20:48 |
Jordach |
better |
| 20:48 |
Jordach |
i made a user button for hexchat to throw kittens at people |
| 20:49 |
sfan5 |
I really want to kick hampa16 into the face |
| 20:49 |
kaeza |
:| |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
sfan5, action throws a kitten at %s |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
use that with a button labelled: kittens |
| 20:49 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: you know.. (the topic you just replied to) |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
oh right |
| 20:49 |
sfan5 |
ohoh |
| 20:49 |
sfan5 |
also add one for putting kittens on peoples head |
| 20:49 |
* Menche |
puts a kitten on ShadowBot's head |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
s/bi/no |
| 20:50 |
* Menche |
puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head |
| 20:50 |
Menche |
wat, the bot doesn't respond to that anymore? |
| 20:50 |
* Jordach |
puts a kitten on MinetestBot's head |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
done |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
the code works |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
action puts a kitten on %s's head |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
^ there it is |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
feel free to use |
| 20:50 |
Menche |
you must license that. |
| 20:51 |
Jordach |
Menche, DILLIGAF |
| 20:51 |
PenguinDad |
CC0 :P |
| 20:51 |
Jordach |
do i look like i give a fuck |
| 20:51 |
Jordach |
that's my new license: DILLIGAF |
| 20:52 |
Menche |
lets have a heated discussion of what FOSS license is best |
| 20:52 |
* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on mh0's head |
| 20:52 |
Jordach |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104530#p104530 |
| 20:53 |
Jordach |
sfan5, did you test it? |
| 20:53 |
* Jordach |
puts a kitten on sfan5's head |
| 20:53 |
Jordach |
i love the userlist buttons |
| 20:53 |
* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on Jordach's head |
| 20:53 |
sfan5 |
obviously not |
| 20:53 |
Jordach |
see - it makes life so much easier |
| 20:53 |
Jordach |
click and KITTY! |
| 20:54 |
sfan5 |
lolwat |
| 20:54 |
sfan5 |
seems like DeepGaze doesn't know mods can't read reports |
| 20:54 |
sfan5 |
"another instance of sfan5 deleting a normal topic he did this to one of mine here is a pm argument in the result" |
| 20:54 |
Peacock |
enjoying Dr. Assburns' Spicy Noodlecup :-) |
| 20:54 |
sfan5 |
big wall of text with content of PM conversation following |
| 20:54 |
sfan5 |
"i hope this helps in reviewing sfan5's status as moderator. in my opinion he does not deserve it" |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
mhm |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
yeah sure |
| 20:55 |
Menche |
deepgaze or hampa? |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
DeepGaze |
| 20:55 |
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| 20:55 |
Niften |
Hey guys |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
We had an argument earlier because I removed a topic from him that was nonsense IMO |
| 20:55 |
sfan5 |
hi Niften |
| 20:55 |
Niften |
Finally got minetest-master compiled :o |
| 20:56 |
* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on Niften's head |
| 20:56 |
Jordach |
WAIT WHAT |
| 20:56 |
Niften |
Preston did actually |
| 20:56 |
Niften |
:D |
| 20:56 |
Niften |
Awesome right? |
| 20:56 |
Menche |
<hampa16> /!\WARNING/!\ i just reported you sfan for closing my topic for no reason |
| 20:56 |
sfan5 |
Niften: THAT is what I mean |
| 20:56 |
Niften |
Thanks Sfan for helping him through. |
| 20:56 |
sdzen |
sfan5 you are a competent moderator of forumy things |
| 20:56 |
sfan5 |
Niften: I gave him a link to my minetest build |
| 20:56 |
Niften |
Appreciate it greatly. |
| 20:56 |
sfan5 |
Niften: I bet he told you he compiled it himself |
| 20:56 |
Niften |
Mmm. |
| 20:56 |
sfan5 |
am I right? |
| 20:56 |
Niften |
yes. |
| 20:56 |
Jordach |
DUN DUN DURR |
| 20:56 |
sfan5 |
that wrong! |
| 20:56 |
sfan5 |
I compiled that |
| 20:57 |
Niften |
He said he compiled it with your help |
| 20:57 |
Jordach |
you can hear the sarcasm in that |
| 20:57 |
sfan5 |
he compiled not a single bit |
| 20:57 |
Niften |
ugh. |
| 20:57 |
Jordach |
haha computer bit |
| 20:57 |
Niften |
I gotta go. |
| 20:57 |
Niften |
I'll be back, |
| 20:57 |
* sfan5 |
now knows who to believe |
| 20:57 |
Niften |
soon. |
| 20:57 |
sfan5 |
k |
| 20:57 |
Menche |
some people think that "help" = "do everything for me" |
| 20:57 |
Peacock |
lol some idiot dug through the floor and now he's drowning underneath |
| 20:57 |
sdzen |
sfan5 just took a byte oout of crime |
| 20:57 |
sfan5 |
^ lol |
| 20:57 |
Jordach |
trololololololololol |
| 20:57 |
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| 20:58 |
Jordach |
sfan5, that got signiture'd |
| 20:58 |
Jordach |
for fuck sakes, i plol'd |
| 20:58 |
Jordach |
funniest thing i heard all day |
| 21:00 |
kaeza |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104532#p104532 wut |
| 21:00 |
kaeza |
.cab O_o |
| 21:02 |
sdzen |
I just had to after this most interesting discussion |
| 21:04 |
sdzen |
I almost made it an .ACE instead |
| 21:04 |
sdzen |
that would have been fun :) |
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| 21:04 |
Jordach |
sdzen, http://xkcd.com/1247/ |
| 21:05 |
Jordach |
!title |
| 21:05 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: xkcd: The Mother of All Suspicious Files |
| 21:05 |
sfan5 |
I heard you like .tar |
| 21:05 |
PilzAdam |
game:get("sfan5"):rage(FULL_CAPS_MODE) -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104526#p104526 |
| 21:05 |
sfan5 |
so I did .tar.tar |
| 21:05 |
Jordach |
sfan5, i'm going to have to remove caps |
| 21:05 |
* Jordach |
suggests a 24hr temp ban for sfan5 |
| 21:05 |
Jordach |
you've burned out |
| 21:06 |
Menche |
you can't use caps to shout at idiots? |
| 21:06 |
* Jordach |
hands sfan5 some weed for the evening |
| 21:06 |
sfan5 |
I'm going to sleep soon anyway |
| 21:06 |
sfan5 |
Menche: apparently |
| 21:06 |
Jordach |
ah ok |
| 21:06 |
sfan5 |
PilzAdam: he/she reposted the topic and posted a topic in Offtopic asking me for a reason |
| 21:06 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, youll end up with 2 idiots |
| 21:07 |
Peacock |
naw all the idiots are on my server right now lol |
| 21:07 |
sdzen |
Jordach, ive seen files like that |
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| 21:08 |
PenguinDad |
Watch Now: Idiot Battle on Startest |
| 21:08 |
Jordach |
that sounds like a cable channel |
| 21:09 |
Peacock |
im running WaterWorld atm |
| 21:09 |
Peacock |
new banlist :p |
| 21:10 |
PenguinDad |
s/Startest/WaterWorld |
| 21:10 |
Jordach |
Peacock, you're like that robot planet from transformers; eating and making new worlds |
| 21:11 |
Peacock |
Unicorn |
| 21:11 |
Jordach |
Unicron* |
| 21:11 |
PenguinDad |
Unicrontab** |
| 21:11 |
PilzAdam |
I dont see any idiot battles in WaterWorld |
| 21:11 |
proller |
PenguinDad, add liquid_finite=1 to config of WaterWorld |
| 21:11 |
Peacock |
im still holding on to startest, just thought id test waterworld while no one was on |
| 21:12 |
Peacock |
cuz i banned them :p |
| 21:12 |
PenguinDad |
proller: I'm not Peacock? |
| 21:12 |
sfan5 |
what about renaming crontab to unicrontab? |
| 21:12 |
Peacock |
no liquid finite, i only have a dualcore |
| 21:13 |
sdzen |
that requires at least 8 cores |
| 21:13 |
sdzen |
:) |
| 21:13 |
Peacock |
plus id have to rewrite pipes |
| 21:13 |
proller |
minetest cant use more 2 cores |
| 21:14 |
PilzAdam |
proller, it can |
| 21:14 |
sdzen |
yes it can |
| 21:14 |
PilzAdam |
its just not very efficient in doing it |
| 21:14 |
sdzen |
:) |
| 21:14 |
kahrl |
num_emerge_threads = 42 |
| 21:14 |
proller |
never seen more than 150% |
| 21:14 |
proller |
with ^^^ =6 |
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| 21:15 |
Peacock |
cpu usage already hovering around 70-80% so imagine with finite |
| 21:15 |
* sdzen |
divides by 0 |
| 21:16 |
proller |
110-140 |
| 21:16 |
* Peacock |
segfaults |
| 21:16 |
proller |
better to try |
| 21:16 |
proller |
its not using cpu when nothing flowing |
| 21:16 |
sdzen |
course all it would need is one node removed |
| 21:16 |
sdzen |
:) |
| 21:17 |
sfan5 |
good night |
| 21:18 |
PenguinDad |
gn8 sfan5 |
| 21:18 |
PenguinDad |
random qoute by NekoGloop: "solar panels aren't even proper solar panels" |
| 21:20 |
sfan5 |
PenguinDad: "random" |
| 21:20 |
NekoGloop |
proper solar panels would actually check if there's no blocks above them |
| 21:22 |
sdzen |
proper solar panels would be inefficent and only give a fraction of the power they do in mods now :) |
| 21:22 |
lordcirth |
Does Minetest run on a RasPi? |
| 21:22 |
Peacock |
they'd probably also be made in china and break after warranty expires :p |
| 21:23 |
NekoGloop |
the power they give you is because they check for height, not sunlight |
| 21:23 |
lordcirth |
mesecon solar panels check light level. I thought Technic ones did too |
| 21:24 |
NekoGloop |
they check light level |
| 21:24 |
NekoGloop |
but they also check height |
| 21:24 |
NekoGloop |
to supposedly stop people from haxing the solar panel by putting a torch above it |
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| 21:26 |
NekoGloop |
we need like some kind of minetest.pos_in_sunlight(pos) or something |
| 21:26 |
sdzen |
I always got around that silly height restriction anyway :) |
| 21:27 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, you can check if its dark at night |
| 21:27 |
PilzAdam |
thats not perfect but it helps |
| 21:27 |
NekoGloop |
That's you copping out of actually coding a solution |
| 21:27 |
kahrl |
sdzen, can I close this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/809 |
| 21:28 |
sdzen |
are torches not dimmer then the sun? |
| 21:28 |
sdzen |
yes |
| 21:28 |
sdzen |
you may |
| 21:28 |
NekoGloop |
torches are, yes, but one could still put, say, a talinite block above it |
| 21:29 |
PilzAdam |
no, sunlight is always one brighter than anything else |
| 21:29 |
NekoGloop |
LIGHT_MAX |
| 21:29 |
NekoGloop |
which, as it happens, is the light level of talinite blocks |
| 21:29 |
sdzen |
suns higher then that neko |
| 21:31 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, you can even set it to 999999999 and it will be still not as bright as the sun |
| 21:31 |
lordcirth |
It would be nice if one could get the sunlight level seperately from other lights |
| 21:31 |
sdzen |
// Length of LIGHT_MAX+1 means LIGHT_MAX is the last value.// LIGHT_SUN is read as LIGHT_MAX from here. |
| 21:31 |
sdzen |
hmmmm |
| 21:32 |
sdzen |
prolly nothing :) |
| 21:32 |
* sdzen |
bites it |
| 21:32 |
sdzen |
yep nothing |
| 21:33 |
NekoGloop |
I assume mgv7 is finished? |
| 21:33 |
NekoGloop |
mostly, anyway. |
| 21:33 |
PilzAdam |
it isnt |
| 21:33 |
PilzAdam |
its useable but not finished |
| 21:33 |
* Jordach |
actually thinks it's ready to go |
| 21:33 |
Jordach |
we need some fucking biomes in lua dammit |
| 21:33 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, GO GO GO |
| 21:33 |
PilzAdam |
it has bugs |
| 21:33 |
NekoGloop |
How does one define biomes then? |
| 21:34 |
PilzAdam |
use Pilztest if you want Lua biomes |
| 21:34 |
NekoGloop |
Everything has bugs. |
| 21:34 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, add biomes to minitest |
| 21:34 |
NekoGloop |
You're never going to get rid of the bugs |
| 21:34 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest |
| 21:34 |
NekoGloop |
You might alter what's being buggy, but the bugs will still be there |
| 21:35 |
sdzen |
can the brightness be set to 15? |
| 21:35 |
sdzen |
or does it just stay at 14? |
| 21:35 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, that doesn't really help |
| 21:36 |
sdzen |
because LIGHT_SUN is 15 |
| 21:36 |
sdzen |
isnt it? |
| 21:37 |
Jordach |
i still think you can separate light max from light sun |
| 21:37 |
Jordach |
LIGHT_DISTANCE should replace the current light system |
| 21:37 |
sdzen |
// This directly sets the range of light.// Actually this is not the real maximum, and this is not the// brightest. The brightest is LIGHT_SUN.#define LIGHT_MAX 14// Light is stored as 4 bits, thus 15 is the maximum.// This brightness is reserved for sunlight#define LIGHT_SUN 15 |
| 21:37 |
sdzen |
light.h :) |
| 21:37 |
Jordach |
fuck |
| 21:43 |
NekoGloop |
Glooptest's module system should work nicely for this... I just have to diable my biome module by default. |
| 21:44 |
NekoGloop |
I still have no idea how the decorations work. |
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| 21:45 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, pilztest uses decorations too |
| 21:45 |
NekoGloop |
I mean, the schematic files used by decorations |
| 21:45 |
PilzAdam |
it uses them for trees |
| 21:47 |
NekoGloop |
how do I edit a schematic...? |
| 21:47 |
PilzAdam |
you can place it in the world and then re-create it with minetest.create_schematic |
| 21:47 |
PilzAdam |
WE has a command for that |
| 21:52 |
NekoGloop |
is there a 0.4.8? |
| 21:52 |
PilzAdam |
not yet |
| 21:52 |
NekoGloop |
mmm, ok |
| 21:52 |
hmmmm |
well here's a 5 star email... blank subject line, body: "New features is coming?" |
| 21:52 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, summary of minetest-0.4.7-2ed3067-alot? |
| 21:53 |
PilzAdam |
see the git commit log |
| 21:53 |
PilzAdam |
its too big to sum it up |
| 21:54 |
NekoGloop |
alright then |
| 21:54 |
Exio4 |
changelog NekoGloop |
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NekoGloop |
register_biome isn't documented in lua-api.txt x.x |
| 21:59 |
PilzAdam |
because it shouldnt be used |
| 21:59 |
PilzAdam |
its not finished |
| 22:00 |
Exio4 |
it may change at any time |
| 22:00 |
iqualfragile_ |
NekoGloop: but do not forget to bug him again when it is finished& still not documented |
| 22:02 |
svuorela |
when you have tamed a couple of PilzAdam's sheep and they start to reproduce, are their offspring also "tamed" or do I need to feed them wheat too ? |
| 22:03 |
sdzen |
I think they need wheat too |
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PilzAdam |
they reproduce? |
| 22:04 |
PilzAdam |
thats a bug |
| 22:04 |
sdzen |
that it is |
| 22:04 |
sdzen |
:) |
| 22:04 |
sdzen |
stick a sheep into a pen |
| 22:04 |
sdzen |
5 sheep in its place |
| 22:04 |
svuorela |
PilzAdam: I lead 4 into a enclosure. now there is like 25 |
| 22:04 |
sdzen |
:) |
| 22:05 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, So, what's node_top and node_filler, eh? |
| 22:05 |
Jordach |
svuorela, thats the entity duplication bug |
| 22:06 |
PilzAdam |
in the desert biome that v6 produces it would be: top=desert sand; filler=desert stone |
| 22:06 |
Jordach |
any dropped item or mob will duplicate over time |
| 22:07 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, and the min/max of temp/humidity? |
| 22:07 |
PilzAdam |
there is not min/max for them |
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NekoGloop |
What's the highest and lowest realistic values that the mapgen will produce, moron? |
| 22:08 |
Octupuslegs |
hi |
| 22:08 |
PilzAdam |
dunno |
| 22:09 |
Uberi |
IIRC it's -1 to 1 mean in a guassian distribution |
| 22:09 |
Uberi |
don't quote me on that one though |
| 22:09 |
Octupuslegs |
Does anyones server still have technic? |
| 22:10 |
Uberi |
sorry, 0 mean with 1 std dev |
| 22:10 |
sdzen |
I removed it from mine cause I hate mesecons :) |
| 22:10 |
Octupuslegs |
i wanna play on your again :D |
| 22:11 |
sdzen |
tis broken at the moment |
| 22:11 |
Octupuslegs |
:o |
| 22:11 |
Octupuslegs |
all the good server are gone |
| 22:12 |
sdzen |
minetest-classic.com:30000 |
| 22:12 |
sdzen |
:) |
| 22:13 |
sdzen |
come down and see us sometime! |
| 22:13 |
Octupuslegs |
whats up with Access Violation? |
| 22:13 |
sdzen |
for what? |
| 22:14 |
Octupuslegs |
boomtown server |
| 22:14 |
Octupuslegs |
i wanted to see if my house was still there and my city |
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sdzen |
isn't boomtown gamebooms? |
| 22:14 |
Octupuslegs |
yes |
| 22:15 |
tuckman |
how do i play |
| 22:15 |
Octupuslegs |
it works untils it reaches to media about like quarter way through |
| 22:15 |
sdzen |
hasnt it been corrupt and down for several months |
| 22:15 |
tuckman |
hey guys how do i play minetest |
| 22:15 |
Uberi |
wow gameboom still has their server? |
| 22:15 |
Uberi |
tuckman: step 1: plug computer into wall |
| 22:15 |
sdzen |
Octy the serer is running on minetest-classic :) |
| 22:15 |
Uberi |
step 2: push power button on computer |
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| 22:15 |
tuckman |
done |
| 22:16 |
Uberi |
step 3: play minetest |
| 22:16 |
Octupuslegs |
szden, for you im stuck on item def |
| 22:16 |
tuckman |
lol really |
| 22:16 |
Octupuslegs |
dont move at all |
| 22:16 |
PilzAdam |
tuckman, that question is a bit too general, dont you think so? |
| 22:16 |
Uberi |
tuckman: seriously though, what do you have so far? |
| 22:16 |
sdzen |
http://minetest-classic.com/ |
| 22:16 |
tuckman |
nothing |
| 22:16 |
Uberi |
did you download the game? did you get the right one? |
| 22:16 |
sdzen |
get the client :) |
| 22:16 |
Uberi |
well, head over to minetest.net and grab yourself a free copy! |
| 22:17 |
Uberi |
it's on sale, you can just send me the money |
| 22:17 |
Octupuslegs |
tuckman, WASD to move mouse right to i dunno and left to interact |
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| 22:17 |
Uberi |
seriously though, you're probably on windows so get the windows version |
| 22:18 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, Is it possible to make water not generate based on biome? |
| 22:18 |
tuckman |
hey im on minetest.net but where do i go to download |
| 22:18 |
Uberi |
tuckman: one moment |
| 22:18 |
Uberi |
do you see the giant Download link at the top? |
| 22:18 |
Uberi |
well, that's where you download it |
| 22:18 |
Exio4 |
lol.. |
| 22:18 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, AFAIK no |
| 22:18 |
tuckman |
yess :D |
| 22:19 |
Uberi |
and if you don't see it, click this shiny link: http://minetest.ru/builds/minetest-0.4.7.zip |
| 22:19 |
PilzAdam |
tuckman, you think its funny if others make fun of you? |
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| 22:20 |
tuckman |
yah |
| 22:20 |
Uberi |
got it? now open up that zip file, and copy that folder inside it somewhere safe |
| 22:21 |
tuckman |
the download is done but i dont see launcher |
| 22:21 |
Uberi |
launcher? where did you download it to? |
| 22:21 |
NekoGloop |
because it's in bin |
| 22:21 |
Uberi |
did you extract the archive first? |
| 22:22 |
* Uberi |
should make a MODSTER for Minetest |
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PilzAdam |
!g how to download and extract a zip |
| 22:22 |
MinetestBot |
PilzAdam: http://www.extractnow.com/ |
| 22:22 |
PilzAdam |
^ tuckman |
| 22:22 |
harrison |
http://youtu.be/Wmo_kibKfXQ |
| 22:23 |
PilzAdam |
actually thats not good |
| 22:23 |
PilzAdam |
forget that link |
| 22:24 |
PilzAdam |
harrison, is the music part of the game? |
| 22:26 |
harrison |
no, but if one does not include music with most films people complain |
| 22:26 |
harrison |
in this one the audio is inessential |
| 22:26 |
Uberi |
hmm, guess he couldn't get the hang of it |
| 22:26 |
Peacock |
Spawnia http://s21.postimg.org/well7mgt3/screenshot_1524706466.png |
| 22:31 |
Octupuslegs |
Can anyone tell me how to fix ,Access Violation |
| 22:31 |
PilzAdam |
Octupuslegs, can you post the full log? |
| 22:31 |
Uberi |
well how did it happen |
| 22:32 |
PilzAdam |
generally speaking: dont accessing memory that doesnt belong to the program |
| 22:32 |
PilzAdam |
-ing |
| 22:33 |
Peacock |
many grammars are faulty :p |
| 22:34 |
Peacock |
im curious was causes my player to be relocated to a position that reads inf,#d,#d |
| 22:35 |
Peacock |
last two are numbers, but the inf part is interesting |
| 22:36 |
Exio4 |
what version? of the client |
| 22:36 |
Octupuslegs |
PilzAdam,i found the problem from looking at the debug,nevermind but thank you |
| 22:37 |
Uberi |
what was the issue, btw? |
| 22:37 |
Exio4 |
http://dpaste.com/1334869/ |
| 22:39 |
svuorela |
PilzAdam's sheep are so smart they can climb over 2 layers of fence when there are enough of them. |
| 22:39 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, can you get a verbose log of that? |
| 22:39 |
PilzAdam |
(server and client, if possible) |
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Exio4 |
it should be somewhat fixed in 0.4.5 |
| 22:40 |
Peacock |
oh sorry thought you were talking to octopus |
| 22:40 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, OO dat ping |
| 22:40 |
Peacock |
loading up debug now though not sure if it was in verbose mode |
| 22:41 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: the download is 15 times better but the pings are super-shitty |
| 22:42 |
Exio4 |
(versus my normal network) |
| 22:42 |
Peacock |
theres nothing in the logs :/ |
| 22:42 |
Peacock |
how do i up verboseness |
| 22:42 |
PilzAdam |
debug_log_level=4 in minetest.conf |
| 22:44 |
Peacock |
aiight, could take awhile to happen again, it happened more often in 0.4.6 |
| 22:44 |
Peacock |
ill try building more since it usually happens when i place alot of nodes |
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| 22:44 |
Exio4 |
http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog#Bug_Fixes_2 |
| 22:44 |
Exio4 |
* Limit speed in collisionMoveResult for avoiding hangs (Exio4) |
| 22:44 |
Exio4 |
the main cause of that bug, was that |
| 22:45 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, are you sure about that? |
| 22:45 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: main cause, because i don't know if there are others |
| 22:46 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: what version are you using? (server&client) |
| 22:46 |
Exio4 |
err |
| 22:46 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: * |
| 22:46 |
Exio4 |
why are there so many nicks with P :( |
| 22:46 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, latest git, and some other versions too |
| 22:46 |
Peacock |
0.4.7 git from two or three days ago |
| 22:46 |
PilzAdam |
also HackerAdam's special client |
| 22:46 |
Exio4 |
HackerAdam's |
| 22:47 |
PilzAdam |
I used that nick when testing anti-cheat on celerons server |
| 22:48 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: what happens when the client gets "into" that limbo? |
| 22:49 |
Peacock |
once x gets to inf i start falling and the whole thing lags to hell |
| 22:49 |
Uberi |
sounds about right |
| 22:49 |
Peacock |
i have to restart and teleport back to spawn |
| 22:49 |
Exio4 |
Peacock: could you compile minetest with a small patch? |
| 22:50 |
Peacock |
could be tricky |
| 22:51 |
Peacock |
where im supposed to drop the patch file? |
| 22:51 |
Exio4 |
git apply somefile |
| 22:51 |
Exio4 |
recompile, and run |
| 22:52 |
Peacock |
yeah the git part is tricky, theres no other way? |
| 22:53 |
Exio4 |
??? |
| 22:54 |
Exio4 |
tricky? how |
| 22:54 |
Peacock |
nevermind lol i cant patch or use git |
| 22:54 |
Exio4 |
why? |
| 22:54 |
Peacock |
i set verbosity to 4, if it happens again ill pastebin the log |
| 22:57 |
NekoGloop |
apparently glooptest can't count to 7. |
| 23:04 |
NekoGloop |
Can't quite seem to figure out why glooptest isn't loading my biome module... |
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| 23:04 |
NekoGloop |
the code is literally the same code it runs to load the other modules... |
| 23:12 |
NekoGloop |
can someone hit minetest with a hammer please? |
| 23:12 |
* Peacock |
hits nekogloop with mesehammer |
| 23:12 |
Peacock |
oups :p |
| 23:12 |
NekoGloop |
heh |
| 23:13 |
NekoGloop |
My hammers don't hurt players that much ;) |
| 23:13 |
Peacock |
beware of calinous' mese balls |
| 23:13 |
NekoGloop |
... what? xD |
| 23:14 |
Peacock |
long story lol in the irc logs :p |
| 23:14 |
NekoGloop |
whatever |
| 23:15 |
Exio4 |
wtf |
| 23:17 |
NekoGloop |
PilzAdam, instruct me on how the biome module is not loading, if you please: https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest/commit/11d2d8ec1b697c4cf05f8b2d01812012b2dfe038 |
| 23:18 |
PilzAdam |
is there any error message? |
| 23:18 |
NekoGloop |
Nope |
| 23:19 |
NekoGloop |
it just fails to see/load the biome module |
| 23:19 |
PilzAdam |
have you set LOAD_BIOME_MODULE to true? |
| 23:19 |
NekoGloop |
yes. |
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| 23:19 |
NekoGloop |
I do know how my own mod is supposed to function :P |
| 23:19 |
PilzAdam |
so that debug line is not printed? |
| 23:19 |
NekoGloop |
The debug message "Loading Biome Module now" is not printed, now |
| 23:19 |
NekoGloop |
no* |
| 23:22 |
PilzAdam |
strange |
| 23:22 |
NekoGloop |
indeed |
| 23:23 |
PilzAdam |
comment out the "if LOAD_BIOME_MODULE == true then" |
| 23:23 |
PilzAdam |
only that line and the end |
| 23:23 |
NekoGloop |
nope |
| 23:24 |
NekoGloop |
no worky |
| 23:26 |
NekoGloop |
Oh, wait, that was the compat module |
| 23:27 |
NekoGloop |
Yeah, that worked, PilzAdam. |
| 23:27 |
PilzAdam |
then you havent set it to true in the config file |
| 23:27 |
NekoGloop |
I did set it to true. |
| 23:27 |
NekoGloop |
-_- |
| 23:28 |
PilzAdam |
<NekoGloop> I do know how my own mod is supposed to function :P <- suuuuuuure :-p |
| 23:28 |
NekoGloop |
IT IS SET TO TRUE. |
| 23:30 |
PilzAdam |
btw, you can check if mapgen v7 is enabled with something like: minetest.register_on_mapgen_init(function(mg_params) if mg_params.name == "v7" then LOAD_BIOMES=true end; end) |
| 23:30 |
NekoGloop |
I don't care about that. |
| 23:30 |
PilzAdam |
there is still the question why it doesnt load that file |
| 23:31 |
PilzAdam |
you have set it to "true", and not "treu" or "teru" or "erut"? |
| 23:31 |
NekoGloop |
Yes. |
| 23:31 |
PilzAdam |
put a print(dump(LOAD_BIOME_MODULE)) directly after the dofile(minetest.get_modpath("glooptest").."/general.cfg") |
| 23:33 |
NekoGloop |
nil |
| 23:34 |
PilzAdam |
paste the config file where you have set it to true |
| 23:35 |
NekoGloop |
http://pastebin.com/661EawB0 |
| 23:36 |
hoodedice |
So... |
| 23:36 |
PilzAdam |
NekoGloop, dunno |
| 23:36 |
PilzAdam |
maybe something is messed up in your workspace or so |
| 23:36 |
hoodedice |
Wow, I was gonna connect to Startest after checking my google+ |
| 23:37 |
hoodedice |
15 minutes is sure a lot of time |
| 23:37 |
hoodedice |
Peacock |
| 23:38 |
Peacock |
howdy |
| 23:39 |
Peacock |
startest isnt up right now, testing waterworld if you wanna check it out |
| 23:39 |
hoodedice |
oh |
| 23:39 |
hoodedice |
waterworld? |
| 23:39 |
Peacock |
standard mapgen, but flooded up to y=100 |
| 23:39 |
hoodedice |
-.- |
| 23:39 |
hoodedice |
Griefer's paradise |
| 23:40 |
Peacock |
how? |
| 23:40 |
hoodedice |
Water water everywhere and all the boards did sink... |
| 23:41 |
Menche |
? |
| 23:41 |
hoodedice |
I don't like all water. Makes me quesy |
| 23:41 |
Peacock |
well its minetest water :p |
| 23:42 |
Peacock |
i could add you to spawnland or create a countrylette connected to it |
| 23:42 |
hoodedice |
Wow. Some lag |
| 23:42 |
hoodedice |
(Lag as in low fps) |
| 23:42 |
Peacock |
gimme a min or two ill restart |
| 23:42 |
PilzAdam |
low FPS is not lag |
| 23:43 |
NekoGloop |
It is consistant lag. |
| 23:43 |
hoodedice |
Well. |
| 23:43 |
hoodedice |
That's why I say lag as in low fs and lag as in latency |
| 23:43 |
hoodedice |
This lag is on my end |
| 23:44 |
PilzAdam |
it is not called lag |
| 23:45 |
Peacock |
irestarted |
| 23:45 |
hoodedice |
!g low fps is not lag |
| 23:45 |
MinetestBot |
hoodedice: http://www.howtogeek.com/142193/htg-explains-why-lag-and-low-fps-arent-the-same-thing/ |
| 23:45 |
hoodedice |
Wait |
| 23:46 |
hoodedice |
"Low FPS and lag sometimes show up at the same time, complicating things." |
| 23:47 |
hoodedice |
!g !g |
| 23:47 |
MinetestBot |
hoodedice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-force |
| 23:47 |
hoodedice |
#INCEPTION |
| 23:49 |
hoodedice |
Did you use worldedit to create the cage thingy for the floors |
| 23:49 |
Peacock |
multinode (close enough :P) |
| 23:51 |
hoodedice |
Is the new prison death free? |
| 23:51 |
Peacock |
well its underground |
| 23:51 |
Peacock |
so people will drown before they make it back lol |
| 23:52 |
hoodedice |
Drown is enabled? |
| 23:52 |
hoodedice |
(Can I check it out?) |
| 23:53 |
Peacock |
the prison? |
| 23:53 |
Peacock |
its not terribly impressive atm |
| 23:53 |
Peacock |
its basically a narrow coffin underground |
| 23:53 |
hoodedice |
hmm |
| 23:53 |
Peacock |
i wanna make it a small dome on the ground level |
| 23:53 |
hoodedice |
Make it like, with glasses. |
| 23:54 |
hoodedice |
And put it somewhere everyone can see it |
| 23:54 |
Peacock |
course :-) otherwise domeshape is pointless |
| 23:54 |
Peacock |
well if its ground level, then its -100 |
| 23:54 |
hoodedice |
Plus entertainment |
| 23:54 |
Peacock |
otherwise i was thinking a cage near spawn |
| 23:54 |
Peacock |
and maybe some fences and a smokestack? |
| 23:55 |
hoodedice |
hmm |
| 23:55 |
Peacock |
when ir estarted i gave you smokers nation |
| 23:55 |
Menche |
what are the light stripes on the ground? i drown when I stand on them |
| 23:55 |
hoodedice |
In Startest, we should have execution ceremonies |
| 23:56 |
hoodedice |
For the banned douchebags |
| 23:56 |
Peacock |
neons? shouldn't drown on those |
| 23:56 |
Peacock |
we could build some sort of humiliating prison yes :-) |
| 23:56 |
Peacock |
if you wanna build the prison, ill come and set the prison teleporter after :-) |
| 23:57 |
* hoodedice |
rubs hands |
| 23:57 |
Peacock |
i can set the grate flooring, though minetest will likely crash as its a large area to fill |
| 23:58 |
Peacock |
depends if you want grate or solid |
| 23:58 |
hoodedice |
Hmm, I'm not drowning |
| 23:58 |
Peacock |
weird, i see bubbles :/ |
| 23:59 |
PilzAdam |
the 0.4.7 client doesnt have drowning |
| 23:59 |
Peacock |
but the latest git does i imagine? |
| 23:59 |
Peacock |
mine says 0.4.7 and i drown tho its git |
| 23:59 |
hoodedice |
oh |
