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00:10 bas080 hdastwb, works like a charm! https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2008052013%20-%2002%3A08%3A55%20AM.png  Would be nice to see the command that was executed above the output.
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00:11 bas080 So now i could throw away my lcd screen and keyboard and use this one instead. Something to consider
00:11 john_minetest Hello everypony!
00:11 bas080 bzzz
00:12 BlockMen hi
00:13 john_minetest :b rfkill is annoying...
00:13 john_minetest It is hardlocking my wlan.
00:13 john_minetest * It is hardlocked and there is no way to unlock with rfkill
00:14 hdastwb bas080: thanks for giving it a test run, and it's nice to see that it's working so well!
00:17 hdastwb I'd implement echoing by setting the terminals to different channels and then using a luacontroller somewhere in the middle to forward messages between the two components
00:24 BlockMen bye everyone
00:38 Exio4 night
00:43 VanessaE bbl
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01:04 PilzAdam bye
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01:17 NekoGloop meow
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01:33 * sokomine pats nekogloop out of a reflex
01:34 * NekoGloop purrs
01:34 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Did the names of pipeworks nodes get changed? I have a bunch of unknown nodes, but it loaded.
01:35 * sokomine puts some food close to nekogloop
01:36 * Evergreen accidentally spills some toxic waste on NekoGloop
01:36 Evergreen Oh no, what have I done...
01:37 sokomine don't worry :-) he'll come back :-)
01:38 Evergreen Well, bye radioactive NekoGloop, and sokomine
01:38 * NekoGloop absorbs the toxic waste
01:38 * NekoGloop noms the food
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03:12 kaeza the new texture pack selection works like a charm
03:12 kaeza now I don't have to exit to switch between HDX and default :D
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03:22 hmmmm https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103885#p103885
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04:44 hoodedice ...
04:52 kaeza ...
04:52 hoodedice =.=
04:52 kaeza (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
04:52 hoodedice You,,,
04:52 hoodedice *...
04:53 kaeza sup
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04:59 hoodedice nm
04:59 hoodedice Since startest is down, I'm flying
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05:51 kahrl what's a server that uses remote_media?
05:52 kahrl I found sfan5.dyndns.org:30002 but its remote_media server seems to be down
05:53 kahrl or, well, it seems to be up but not responding
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06:09 deltib yay, I finally have proper compositing without tearing
06:23 hoodedice *Yawn*
06:44 VanessaE hi all
06:53 hoodedice soup
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07:05 sfan5 hi
07:06 kaeza hi
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07:31 nore hi
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08:54 PenguinDad To much spoilers: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103908#p103908
08:55 kaeza I can't even see the answer at 1024x768 :|
08:55 VanessaE agreed.
08:56 VanessaE collapsed it down to three levels.
08:56 PenguinDad kaeza: I can't the answer on 1920x1080
08:56 PenguinDad *see
08:57 kaeza hah someone with ninja skills reduced it to 3 levels :P
08:58 * kaeza points at VanessaE
08:58 VanessaE HIYAH!
08:59 kaeza also: spoiler tags \o/
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09:05 thexyz best of #minetest http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-07-17#i_3204391
09:05 thexyz markveidemanis is officially a bot now
09:05 VanessaE heh
09:06 jin_xi soo, anyone had this problem where lua VoxelManips place fire nodes everywhere?
09:06 VanessaE thexyz: can you adjust the width of some fields in the topics lists (e.g. new posts page and similar)?
09:06 VanessaE a/fields/columns/
09:06 VanessaE s/
09:06 jin_xi just a heads up for everyone using them, be careful ;)
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09:08 thexyz that's a hilarious bug
09:08 kaeza ^
09:08 thexyz VanessaE: screenshot plz
09:08 VanessaE sure.
09:09 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2008052013%20-%2005:12:38%20AM.png
09:09 VanessaE thexyz: so I can zoom the page (larger fonts) without the topic titles splitting out of their columns (cut off).  I figure, make the Thread titles column at least 50% wider, take what you need from the Forum and Replies columns since those are too wide anyway.
09:09 VanessaE s/splitting/spilling/
09:10 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Traffic Light Day! :-D
09:11 VanessaE morning, James
09:12 VanessaE actually in that screenshot, the titles column needs to be more like 3x wider :P
09:15 thexyz why'd you zoom in it?
09:15 VanessaE because I have bad eyes and that's about the size I'd normally use it at, if I could
09:16 VanessaE though I have to about two steps down from that to not lose topic info out of the column edge
09:16 thexyz oh, font-size on body does work the same way so nevermind
09:17 thexyz well, feel free to send me stylesheet, I'm not in the mood to do it right now
09:17 thexyz also, those are not columns but <div>'s and <ul>'s
09:17 VanessaE my css skills suck worse than my C++ skills :)
09:18 thexyz apparently, some guys just have <table> fobia
09:18 VanessaE I don't get that at all.  What's so wrong with tables?
09:18 thexyz to the extent they begin to make tables in <div>s
09:18 thexyz I don't get it too! tables are good for, meh, tables
09:20 thexyz css sucks in general anyway
09:21 thexyz instead of positioning elements as you wish you're required to fuck with floats, clears, displays, margins, and so on
09:21 pitriss csds is great when is used properly..:)
09:21 pitriss *css
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09:22 thexyz well, anything is great when used properly
09:23 VanessaE the only thing I ever use css for is setting colors and fonts
09:23 VanessaE html 4 for layout, js for little effects or whatever
09:23 thexyz for example, sticky footer
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09:25 thexyz <div>s of equal height
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09:29 thexyz VanessaE: do you still use tables for layouts?
09:34 VanessaE yup
09:34 VanessaE where it makes sense to anyway
09:34 VanessaE but I'm kinda stuck in the 90's like that :P
09:35 VanessaE but I don't do web design, just what's on my own pages
09:36 thexyz hm.. I'd suggest using something like Bootstrap or Foundation if you "don't do web design"
09:37 VanessaE meh
09:37 thexyz that way your pages would look fine enough and you won't have to design anything
09:37 VanessaE no need, my pages are pretty well static
09:37 VanessaE nothing much to change anymore :)
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09:38 VanessaE the one page with any dynamic content just presents a directory/file listing anyways
09:39 thexyz it doesn't matter whether they're static or dynamic
09:39 thexyz but well, using stock bootstrap isn't a really great idea either
09:41 VanessaE you'll be happy to know, speaking of web stuff, that my server uses that remote media thing :)
09:41 VanessaE (assuming you didn't see the discussion in -dev)
09:42 VanessaE it hit me like a ton of bricks earlier - I already have website with its own domain, why not just host the damn media there. :)
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09:52 kaeza time for bed for me
09:52 kaeza night all
09:52 VanessaE night
09:52 Jordach aww
09:54 Jordach hey VanessaE
09:54 VanessaE hey
09:54 Jordach seen the diamond sword in the newest renders?
09:55 Jordach check the wallpapers topic or my renders topic
09:55 VanessaE sawit
09:55 VanessaE saw it*
09:55 Jordach transparent and refractive - doable in blender
09:56 Jordach and for some reason lighting shadows now work
09:56 Exio4 [06:22:58] <thexyz> well, anything is great when used properly
09:56 Exio4 suddenly: javascript
09:57 Jordach <Exio4> [06:22:58] <thexyz> well, anything is great when used properly <- bitches and hoes arent used properly
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10:10 Jordach for gods sakes; Clementine keeps getting stuck on mp3 playback (and this is the 1.1 windows release)
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10:10 Calinou works for me
10:10 Calinou Exio4: javascript can be used properly
10:10 Jordach Calinou, i happened on vista too
10:10 Exio4 Version 1.1.1
10:11 Exio4 Calinou: who said that? :>
10:11 Exio4 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6151841 http://sealedabstract.com/rants/why-mobile-web-apps-are-slow/
10:11 Exio4 tl;dr javascript is awful and slow as hell
10:12 Exio4 if you want to feel the power of an i386 in your overclocked to 4.5GHz i7 4770K
10:12 Exio4 use javascript, if not, then well
10:12 Calinou suddenly: BananaBread
10:13 Calinou cube 2 ported to javascript/webgl/whatever, runs very well
10:13 Exio4 compare it to the native performance
10:13 Calinou have fun coding C++ then
10:14 Exio4 BananaBread is C++
10:14 Exio4 compiled to JS
10:14 Exio4 using emscscript or w/e it is called Calinou
10:14 Calinou emscripten
10:14 Exio4 https://github.com/kripken/emscripten
10:14 Exio4 yeah
10:15 Exio4 "compile your C, C++, or shits to JS with only a 10% of the performance of the native app!"
10:17 thexyz Exio4: it's great when used properly
10:17 Exio4 thexyz: if you say so
10:18 thexyz i mean, that statement just makes no sense
10:19 Exio4 javascript has some good things
10:21 thexyz well, yeah, it's the only thing we can use for web pages
10:21 thexyz that'll work everywhere
10:24 Exio4 it is the other PHP of the web 8)
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10:26 sfan5 I visit some website and see code commented out that is meant to use my cpu for bitcoin mining
10:26 emerge Hello!
10:26 thexyz Exio4: there are no alternatives so it's not
10:27 sfan5 http://www.bitcoinplus.com/miner/embeddable
10:27 sfan5 ^ what the fuck is this
10:27 thexyz sfan5: you didn't know?
10:27 sfan5 didn't know what?
10:28 thexyz about this js bitcoin miner
10:28 sfan5 no
10:28 thexyz it's so slow you won't be able to make profit, better put in ads
10:28 sfan5 I knew it was possible but...
10:29 VanessaE mining bitcoin in js?  may as well be using a TI99/4a :P
10:29 sfan5 ^
10:30 thexyz but then, some subhu^W^W everybody uses adblock now so ads aren't really profitable
10:30 Jordach thexyz, you are NOT putting that in forum.minetest.net
10:30 sfan5 hell no
10:30 VanessaE not just no or hell no, but FUCK NO.
10:30 thexyz oh, you didn't notice?
10:31 thexyz :troll:
10:31 sfan5 why isn't Irrlicht ported to JS?
10:31 sfan5 inb4 someone looks at the html source of forum.minetest.net
10:31 VanessaE sfan5: what, you channeling lamefun now? :P)
10:31 VanessaE :P
10:32 sfan5 no, but Minetest in a browser would be nice
10:32 VanessaE should be able to pull off 5 fps or so in minimal :)
10:32 sfan5 compiling Irrlicht(SDL driver) with emscripten doesn't work because there is no SDL_setfenv
10:33 Jordach 4.96 hours for 0.00000064 BTC
10:33 Jordach that's on a 32bit windows machine
10:33 VanessaE Jordach: what's that translate to, about 1/3000 of a US cent or something? :)
10:33 emerge Jordach: You need to use a video card or something.
10:34 sfan5 nvidias video cards are shit for mining
10:34 thexyz can we use webgl or something to mine bitcoins?
10:35 emerge I got ATI but I need it :3
10:35 Jordach VanessaE, Last price:$105.51000 <- 1 BTC
10:35 VanessaE heh, I was off a bit then
10:36 sfan5 !g webgl bitcoin miner
10:36 MinetestBot sfan5: http://bitcoin.biniok.net/
10:36 VanessaE about 0.0000675 USD :-)
10:38 * Jordach sets Java.exe to high priority
10:39 thexyz there's no point in mining now
10:39 thexyz electiricy costs more than you'll mine
10:39 thexyz without special chips designed for bitcoin mining, that is
10:39 sfan5 asic?
10:40 VanessaE that's the trend now, yeah
10:42 thexyz though I'm not exactly sure
10:42 thexyz maybe you can make some moniez using a lot of GPUs
10:43 VanessaE I wonder how much solar panel area it would take to run a typical gaming rig for bitcoin mining
10:44 VanessaE around 6-8 square meters I suppose?
10:45 VanessaE (assuming daytime running only, under ideal conditions, with a gaming box drawing a continuous 600W)
10:45 thexyz you won't be able to mine anything with typical gaming rig
10:45 sfan5 depends on the GPUs
10:45 VanessaE probably not
10:47 thexyz it's too late to start anyway
10:50 Jordach VanessaE, with that solar panel;n running your server would be cheaper
10:50 Jordach -n
10:50 VanessaE if Abe and I ever get this house to go lease-to-own, we'll be adding some solar, hopefulyl
10:51 VanessaE hopefully*
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10:54 VanessaE kahrl: go back to bed
10:54 VanessaE fuck
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10:54 VanessaE kaeza:  go back to bed
10:54 kaeza PHAIL
10:54 thexyz lol
10:54 VanessaE come on, xchat.  that was just stupid
10:55 thexyz well, i don't think kahrl've just woke up
10:55 Calinou poor kahrl
10:55 VanessaE heh
10:55 kaeza I'll ping kahrl again
10:55 Jordach TIL kahrl is lazier than me
10:56 Jordach up early VanessaE
10:56 thexyz why?
10:56 VanessaE Jordach: yeah
10:56 Jordach or just not sleeping
10:56 Jordach wierd
10:57 Jordach weird* clementine stopped freaking out over playing mp3 filse
10:57 Jordach files*
10:57 Jordach i upgraded to latest dev build (git tag g0ff0c30)
10:58 kaeza lol g
10:58 VanessaE up really early (since ~1:45am)
10:58 thexyz or maybe, he's at work?
10:58 sfan5 its 12:58am
10:58 Jordach seems legit
10:59 Jordach you mean 12:58pm
10:59 sfan5 no am
10:59 sfan5 s/ /, /
10:59 Calinou sfan5 is an australian in disguise
10:59 thexyz your am/pm thing sucks
10:59 thexyz it's 12:58
11:00 thexyz somewhere
11:00 sfan5 59*
11:00 Jordach i usually read time in military 2400
11:00 kaeza 12:58am == 00:58
11:00 sfan5 !time
11:00 sfan5 no we apparently don't have this thing
11:00 Jordach sfan5, you need to make MinetestBot do timezones
11:00 sfan5 no
11:00 Jordach !gmt 0
11:00 thexyz yeah, and a lot of other useless crap
11:00 Jordach for gmt+0
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11:00 Jordach same can be said for xyz.is
11:01 PenguinDad now it's 1pm
11:01 Jordach oh, did i mention your tracking domain
11:01 thexyz what tracking domain? there's no tracking domain
11:01 thexyz lrn2read
11:01 thexyz sfan5: did you consider http://willie.dftba.net/?
11:02 sfan5 no
11:03 Jordach thexyz, not everyone wants bleeding edge
11:03 Jordach for something that sits there 24/7 you better want stability > features
11:04 thexyz why do you think it's unstable?
11:04 Jordach bleeding edge might have crashes
11:05 Calinou not always
11:05 Calinou try playing latest minetest git and see
11:05 Jordach also: to close or not to close: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6791
11:05 thexyz everything may have crashes
11:05 Jordach like cars
11:05 kaeza or planes
11:06 sfan5 lolwat, someone got to my minetest build site with archive.org
11:06 Calinou ...or trains
11:06 Jordach ......or automobiles
11:06 kaeza or windows
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11:08 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:08 VanessaE morning PA
11:11 Jordach sfan5, im lovin it: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103724#p103724
11:11 sfan5 yes?
11:11 sfan5 really?
11:12 Jordach mhm
11:12 * Jordach wonders where pavel_s has gone
11:13 PenguinDad Jordach: he is forever alone
11:14 Calinou foreveralone.jpg
11:16 PenguinDad Calinou: https://github.com/wenkakes/foreveralone :P
11:22 sfan5 "We are halfway between traditional web hosting and my butt, combining the advantages of both."
11:26 PilzAdam why is https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6797 stickied?
11:27 Calinou unstickied :P
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11:28 BlockMen hi
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11:29 Jordach hey BlockMen, Evergreen
11:29 * Jordach thinks Evergreen lives near new york
11:29 Evergreen Nope, your wrong
11:29 Evergreen :D
11:29 Evergreen *you're
11:30 Evergreen What made you think that?
11:30 Jordach because you live in the same timezone as VanessaE
11:30 Jordach -Evergreen- TIME Mon Aug 05 07:30:23 2013
11:30 Jordach -VanessaE- TIME Mon Aug  5 07:34:17
11:31 BlockMen isnt washington even the same timezone?
11:31 * Jordach thinks so
11:31 Evergreen That's because we use new york time way over where I live, I have no idea why
11:31 PilzAdam BlockMen, hello me :-p
11:32 Evergreen We switched a year ago or so
11:32 Jordach Evergreen, is it those tropical islands "owned" by the us
11:32 Jordach US*
11:33 BlockMen PilzAdam, soliloquy? :D
11:34 BlockMen oh Jordach, btw, the logo and lettering are cc-by 3.0 themself -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103840#p103840 :P
11:34 Jordach ah shit
11:35 Jordach mediagoblin wont let me change them now :P
11:36 * BlockMen hates licenses
11:36 BlockMen *most time
11:36 Jordach BlockMen, waive it
11:36 Jordach (you created the artwork; you can waive it)
11:36 PilzAdam WTFPL FTW
11:37 Jordach nyuszika7h, lol
11:37 nyuszika7h was a test
11:37 nyuszika7h because my friend's bot would refuse to nick to it
11:37 BlockMen i could just wauive the lettering
11:37 VanessaE bbl
11:37 BlockMen *waive
11:37 PilzAdam Jordach, you have to delete those 2 posts https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103660#p103660 because they dont contain wallpapers
11:38 thexyz PilzAdam: b-but I don't want evil corporations to *make money* without giving anything to me!
11:38 BlockMen ^
11:38 BlockMen :D
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11:38 Calinou >nyu >not testing something
11:39 * Jordach really wonders where Jejia is
11:39 Peacock he was on here the other day
11:39 Peacock i saw him sign off
11:40 BlockMen Jordach, you could add a [solved] -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6769 :P
11:40 Jordach i also code tagged the debug
11:41 BlockMen good
11:42 BlockMen PilzAdam, is there a chance that #851 get merged in 0.4.8?
11:43 Jordach Calinou, #redeclipse NPW
11:43 Jordach NOW*
11:53 Evergreen Sorry, I was afk.
11:53 Evergreen And yes, I do live on the US continent
11:54 PilzAdam updated the changelog
11:54 PilzAdam lol "the US continent"
11:54 Peacock lol yeah, i wonder where Canada is (the arctic?) :P
11:55 Peacock or Mexico for that matter :p
11:55 PilzAdam there are two continents on earth: the US continent and the russian continent
11:56 Peacock sino-russian continent :p
11:56 Peacock russians are outnumbered by their chinese neighbours
11:56 Evergreen Lol, I just US main land, not some island owned by th United States
11:57 Evergreen *I just meant
11:57 Evergreen *the
11:59 Peacock :P were just poking fun :-)
12:01 Peacock though i much prefer the appelation mainland rather than homeland :-)
12:01 Peacock homeland sounds like empire
12:03 Peacock is 0.4.8 out now? i see posts on the forum
12:04 Evergreen IT is very close to being released
12:04 PilzAdam <PenguinDad> Minetest 0.4.8: Coming Soon Realâ„¢
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12:05 Peacock just as well, still looking for a proper to way to install jit in wheezy
12:07 Peacock fancy that, found the deb package to dl
12:08 Peacock now if i could just sort out these anounce timeouts
12:09 * Jordach experiments with transparency again
12:27 Peacock does minetest.register_on_cheat ever give any false positives? id want to ban outright hacked clients w/o warning
12:27 PilzAdam it _should_ not happen that lag triggers it
12:28 Peacock and i have to have anticheat on for it to work?
12:28 PilzAdam but if e.g. a client digs a dirt block, but at the same time it gets replaced by stone or something then it would trigger the "dug_undigable_node"
12:28 Peacock the one thing that drove me nuts about anticheat was being continuously dragged back to where i was
12:28 PilzAdam yes, anticheat is required
12:29 PilzAdam thats why we fixed it ;-)
12:29 Peacock ahhh, got it :-)
12:29 Peacock thanks
12:30 Peacock lol nice nocheat does public shaming too XD
12:30 PilzAdam s/shaming/spamming/
12:31 Peacock well when the others know that griefers are getting banned, theyre less inclined to follow
12:31 PilzAdam s/griefers/hackers
12:31 bas080 why is my lava not flowing?
12:31 Calinou that's what she said
12:33 Peacock hard to guess with that much detail :P
12:34 bas080 Peacock, true, but not that there is a known reason for that...
12:35 Peacock what version minetest, minetest_Game, any lava cooling mods?
12:35 bas080 no lava cooling mods. I'll update the lava source and flowing now.
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12:37 bas080 only difference is this line  paramtype2 = "flowingliquid",
12:38 bas080 apperently that's enough...
12:38 Peacock "LuaJIT not found, using bundled Lua." i just installed it :/
12:38 Peacock brb, restarting
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12:40 Peacock still not finding luajit :/
12:41 PenguinDad Peacock: under xubuntu it works well :P
12:42 Peacock its not showing up in synaptic though
12:42 Peacock but when i click the deb file, it says "reinstall"
12:44 kaeza bas080, liquid_update or something like that in .conf
12:44 bas080 kaeza, am checking
12:45 PilzAdam Peacock, do you have the -dev package for it?
12:45 Peacock luajit-dev?
12:45 PilzAdam libluajit-5.1-dev in kubuntu
12:46 PilzAdam note that you should use lua 5.1
12:46 kaeza bas080, liquid_loop_max = 10000
12:46 kaeza IIRC
12:46 bas080 i only see liquid finite. But after adding the line paramtype2 = "flowingliquid", to lava def it works
12:46 bas080 ok, why so high?
12:46 bas080 or is it high?
12:46 kaeza it depends on your computer
12:46 Peacock found it :-)
12:47 kaeza low values make it use less CPU, but liquid update may stall
12:47 bas080 ok done it.
12:49 Peacock ahah, i had installed 5.1 and i needed 5.1-2[...]
12:51 bas080 kaeza, finally my lava works!
12:51 kaeza great :)
12:51 bas080 Calinou, is that what you she said?
12:52 Calinou wat
12:52 bas080 "finally my lava works!"
12:53 Evergreen I found a nice drum sequencer called hydrogen.   I though it would be something to mess around with
12:57 Peacock for future reference lol needed debs are (libluajit-5.1-2, libluajit-5.1-common, libluajit-5.1-dev, luajit)
12:57 Peacock i might accidentally wipe partitions but the logs should be safer XD
12:58 PilzAdam Peacock, isnt it quite obious that you need these packages?
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12:59 Peacock the package you mentionned (dev) wasn't listed as related to the others :/
12:59 Peacock so you kinda had to know
12:59 PilzAdam you always need lib*-dev as a compile dependency
13:00 thexyz enjoy your umm... debian?
13:00 Peacock crunchbang
13:00 thexyz almost
13:00 Peacock cpu usage is a third of arch (from 3% to 1%) :p
13:01 Peacock besides arch is increasingly looking like a mess
13:01 Peacock pushing so many changes that breaks the system, increasing number of sections on the wiki are out of date
13:02 Evergreen Let me ask a question, is linux mint cinamon addition more light weight than ubuntu?
13:02 Peacock no
13:02 Peacock isn't cinamon based on gnome3?
13:02 Evergreen Okay, another question.   Does Xubuntu support all the applications that ubuntu does?
13:02 PilzAdam Peacock, no you can test  $ luajit -e "local x=0; for i=1,1e9 do x=x+i end; print(x)"  vs.  $ lua -e "local x=0; for i=1,1e9 do x=x+i end; print(x)"
13:02 PilzAdam *now
13:02 Peacock why wouldn't it?
13:03 Evergreen Just wondering, I was pretty sure it would, but just checking
13:03 Peacock PilzAdam minetest already found jit and compiled much faster than im used to lol
13:03 Jordach Evergreen, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
13:03 PilzAdam Evergreen, Xubuntu is the same as Ubuntu but with a different DE
13:03 Jordach then login as xubuntu user
13:03 Evergreen Okay, thanks
13:03 Calinou Evergreen: linux mint isn't as good as people might say
13:04 Peacock still better than buntu :p
13:04 PilzAdam distro war? KUBUNTU FTW!
13:04 Calinou Peacock: no
13:04 thexyz PilzAdam: yay, yay, that's a bad way to test performance
13:04 Calinou mint discourages a few practices for no reason
13:04 PilzAdam thexyz, found it in the manpage of luajit
13:05 thexyz PilzAdam: then "lol"
13:05 thexyz is what I wanted to say
13:05 PenguinDad PilzAdam: you mean Xubuntu and Kubuntu FTW
13:06 Peacock calinou, when i read that ubuntu started spying on their users, i knew they were done like a christmas goose
13:06 PilzAdam Peacock, only unity spies their users
13:06 PilzAdam thats why Kubuntu is so good
13:06 Peacock still, when people tell you to use linux because of spyware on windows, and ubuntu proceeds to do the same thing... lol
13:07 Calinou it doesn't if you never use the dash, Peacock
13:07 Calinou back when I used unity I never used it
13:07 Peacock lets just say theyre not helping perceptions
13:07 PilzAdam Canonical – the Microsoft of Open Source
13:07 Peacock another benefit of dropping arch : i dont have to read a dozen cryptic threads in Anouncements every time i update something lol
13:07 thexyz aw, shit, another distro war
13:08 Peacock you started it :p
13:08 PilzAdam thexyz, Monday is distro war day
13:08 Peacock lol
13:08 Evergreen Oh no, I started a distro war
13:08 PilzAdam Tuesday too
13:08 Evergreen I new I should have asked someone else
13:08 PilzAdam and wednesday
13:08 PilzAdam and all the other week too
13:08 thexyz your distro sucks.
13:08 Peacock they all have innovative ways of sucking
13:08 Peacock if there was a perfect distro there wouldn't be so many of them
13:09 Calinou some distros make better compromise than others
13:09 Peacock like CB vs AB
13:09 Jordach if Distro_War == True: Jordach.Prepare_Channel(!Kick)
13:09 Peacock same setup, much easier to maintain
13:09 Jordach can we quit with the distro wars; i've had enough
13:10 Peacock thats only cuz you get one flavour of windows :p
13:10 Jordach theres a world full of nodes, go mining and explore
13:10 Jordach Peacock, i have 9x and NT
13:10 Peacock 9x?
13:10 Jordach 95, 98, ME
13:10 Peacock did you steal a library computer or something? XD
13:10 Jordach HA!
13:11 * Jordach knows library computers are the shittest on the planet
13:11 jin_xi yay, turtle system now done in lua! http://i.imgur.com/c34BTsw.png
13:11 Peacock well, if youre gonna stick with windows, stick with XP or 7
13:11 thexyz Calinou: well, yeah, they all suck differently
13:11 Calinou win 8 is better than 7, Peacock
13:11 Calinou lighter, better task manager
13:11 Peacock are you on drugs?
13:11 Calinou you are free to use ClassicShell, like you are free to use Notepad++ instead of the windows notepad
13:11 Evergreen EVERYONE JUST SHUT UP
13:12 Calinou Peacock: no u
13:12 Calinou Evergreen: ok
13:12 Peacock they practically have to give win8 away for ppl to use it
13:12 Evergreen I am sick of distro wars
13:12 Jordach same here
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13:12 Jordach i might try W8 next year
13:12 GNADev|zRokh Aye doods
13:12 Peacock SurfaceRT just got price cut by 100$ and ppl say its still too expensive lol
13:12 thexyz Calinou: okay, so where do i buy it?
13:12 * Jordach has already tried W8 Transformation Pack
13:13 thexyz last time I tried there was only win7→8 way
13:13 Jordach Nuke C:/ -> Clean Install
13:13 thexyz hardcopy-less, that is
13:13 Jordach i store my stuff on a secondary partition
13:13 Calinou thexyz: anywhere? ._.
13:13 Peacock anyways, distros wars cant be avoided, the minute you ask "how do i install <package> on <distro>", people still need to ask
13:14 thexyz Calinou: I'm probably too stupid
13:15 GNADev|zRokh Lol
13:15 PenguinDad luajit -e "local x=0; for i=1,math.huge do x=x+i print(x) end" > numbers xD
13:15 Jordach i like windows 8 for one feature: Ribbon explorer (I actually hate the 7 file manager)
13:16 Peacock lol math.huge (sounds like a programmers' e-dating profile) :P
13:16 thexyz Calinou: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/buy — here I only can find "upgrade" links
13:17 Evergreen Lol, someone just asked if a 0.3.3 pack works with ubuntu
13:17 Evergreen *o.3.1
13:17 thexyz oh, wait, there's some link
13:17 Evergreen *sigh*
13:18 Evergreen 0.3.1 texture pack that is
13:18 thexyz > you can buy the Windows 8 or Windows 8 Pro System Builder products (OEM versions)
13:19 Peacock where is minetest.conf stored with DRUN_IN_PLACE=1?
13:19 thexyz now, where do I buy digital copy?
13:19 thexyz Calinou: plz
13:20 Calinou don't know
13:20 Calinou yes, you can buy the OEM versions
13:20 Calinou the non-OEM versions are well hidden, if even available, and very expensive
13:20 Calinou this is windows logixc
13:20 Calinou -x
13:22 Peacock .conf :: server_dedicated ?
13:22 thexyz well, so that's impossible
13:25 Peacock "could not allocate player" (latest git)
13:25 GNADev|zRokh Define OEM
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13:27 thexyz google it
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13:28 GNADev|zRokh !g oem windows
13:28 MinetestBot GNADev|zRokh: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/bott/is-it-ok-to-use-oem-windows-on-your-own-pc-dont-ask-microsoft/1561
13:28 PenguinDad !g OEM
13:28 MinetestBot PenguinDad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Original_equipment_manufacturer
13:28 thexyz i hate it
13:28 thexyz why can't i just buy it with, say, paypal and receive a digital download?
13:28 * Jordach pokes sfan5 to see if he's about
13:29 sfan5 meow
13:29 Jordach stay here for a few mins
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13:30 Jordach sfan5, http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/294/mtbot.png
13:30 GNADev|zRokh !g what is oem
13:30 MinetestBot GNADev|zRokh: http://graphicssoft.about.com/od/glossary/f/oemsoftware.-UFl.htm
13:30 sfan5 Jordach: dat arm
13:30 * Jordach cant work out proper elbow joints
13:31 Jordach (he keeps forgetting to open in new tab)
13:31 Peacock is that a flower on the side of his head or some sort of alien parasite? :P
13:31 Jordach her*
13:31 Peacock its a woman?
13:31 Jordach pixel bow btw
13:31 Peacock i knew english women were ugly but daaamn
13:31 sfan5 Peacock: bots are female
13:32 Jordach fun fact: that's actually the sam II model re-done for a different cubic hat style
13:32 Jordach i actually have a "Template" model to work from; already subdivided; so i can work the hat layer in seconds
13:33 Jordach once i delete the non-needed areas (black = tranp) then i extrude individual giving the cubic effect
13:35 Jordach i'm continuing experimenting with blender's internal render
13:35 * Jordach will probably fix the mouth issue
13:36 Jordach btw, i'm attempting to see if we can get pavel_s back
13:41 Jordach if i ever see a download without screenshots: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/the_mother_of_all_suspicious_files.png
13:45 thexyz > lisp
13:46 PenguinDad *perl
13:46 sfan5 **brainfuck
13:47 PenguinDad brainfuck: ++>+--++<
13:48 sfan5 you mean --<-++-->
13:49 PenguinDad sfan5: i can't code brainfuck i only wrote all syntax elements of brainfuck
13:49 sfan5 eh
13:49 sfan5 +-<>[]
13:49 PenguinDad sry forgot about []
13:50 PenguinDad *+-<>[].,
13:50 sfan5 oh right
13:51 * IceCraft hi
13:51 PenguinDad I have seen a brainfuck compiler in piet
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14:00 hoodedice !seen
14:00 MinetestBot hoodedice: Need a nickname to search for...
14:00 hoodedice !seen Peacock
14:00 MinetestBot hoodedice: peacock was last seen at 2013-08-05 13:31:35 UTC on #minetest
14:00 Peacock right here :p
14:00 hoodedice Wow.
14:00 PenguinDad !sfu celeron55
14:00 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No Results found
14:01 hoodedice (server)
14:01 Peacock up
14:02 Peacock was just updating autoban
14:02 Peacock hacked clients are banned on 1st try (hopefully)
14:02 hoodedice Why?
14:02 Peacock why wouldn't i?
14:03 hoodedice (Another chance)
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14:03 Peacock do you seriously think people who hack their clients to wreak havoc on public servers will suddenly reform?
14:03 hoodedice Well, if they hacked it in a good way?
14:03 hoodedice (Not wanting to greif)
14:03 hoodedice or grief
14:04 hoodedice Or whatever the correct spelling of greef is
14:04 Peacock rules and privs are there for a reason, if people are hacking their clients to get around them, theyre not needed on a server for serious builders
14:04 hoodedice hmm
14:04 Peacock not running an experimental playground, im building nice things on there
14:04 hoodedice =)
14:05 thexyz how'd you hack it in a good way?
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14:06 Peacock was curious about that too lol
14:06 hoodedice Like changed the source about a bit to get better framerates?
14:07 hoodedice *Ah, the joy of a freshly started server*
14:07 thexyz hoodedice: then they should send a pull request
14:07 Peacock i think i know of a way to reduce lag, id have to increase the dig time of my tools
14:08 hoodedice Pull request... Talk about it with Jordach
14:08 Peacock faster shit gets dug the more changes have to be written to map
14:08 hoodedice Not everyone likes to contribute
14:08 MinetestBot Jordach: That ain't me: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103954#p103954
14:08 thexyz Jordach: hai! wanna talk pull request stuff
14:09 hoodedice Lol. To speak of the devil.
14:09 thexyz I don't think anyone would modify client, get better framerate and then not send a pull request
14:09 thexyz because that just makes no sense
14:10 sfan5 Peacock: make sure you don't ban people for 'interacted_too_far' because that can happen without a modified client
14:10 hoodedice Because they might work at Microsoft?
14:11 nore sfan5: is there some call for interacted_without_interact?
14:11 sfan5 nore: no
14:11 sfan5 as thats not cheating
14:11 Peacock how does interacted too far work?
14:11 nore because if people have modified client, they could do it
14:11 Peacock (in any case im logging each type to see if theres an unusual occurence of them)
14:11 nore sfan5: I mean dug_node_without_interact
14:11 nore and then removing interact would be useless (for your mod)
14:11 sfan5 nore: still no, thats not cheating you can't dig the node anyway
14:12 sfan5 lolwat
14:12 thexyz Peacock: btw, what heuristic do you use to ban people?
14:12 sfan5 You think the server _doesn't_ check if you have interact?
14:12 nore if you have a modified client, you can do that and then pass walls on laggy servers
14:12 Peacock simple, users get warned everytime they try to fuck with protected areas, 10 warnings = jail, 15 warnings = ban
14:12 sfan5 Peacock: if you try to interact with something thats too far away
14:13 Peacock i also ban Guest#### names, any name with more than four digits, and pretty soon any name with 'minecraft' in it
14:13 sfan5 nore: thats the same as noclip
14:13 sfan5 its easier to just enable fly and noclip
14:13 nore sfan5: you're right
14:13 hoodedice Peacock said "Any name with _minecraft_ in it"
14:13 sfan5 Peacock: "any name with more than four digit" thats racist against digits
14:13 thexyz Peacock: what's your server?
14:13 hoodedice Startest
14:14 Peacock startest
14:14 sfan5 !server startest
14:14 MinetestBot sfan5: Startest | 199.202.146.48 | Clients: 1/14, 4 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.216
14:14 sfan5 !up 199.202.146.48
14:14 hoodedice I said it first yaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy
14:14 MinetestBot 199.202.146.48:30000 is up (222ms)
14:14 Peacock i wanted to plug this rig directly into the router, but the only working jack is at the other end of the apt
14:14 sfan5 !server players:most
14:14 MinetestBot sfan5: LandRush Server | 192.95.62.241:31000 | Clients: 8/20, 19 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.200
14:15 hoodedice apt?
14:15 Peacock flat/apartment
14:15 PenguinDad Now LandRush allows 20 players \o/
14:15 Peacock but i dont want the computer next to the bathroom XD
14:15 hoodedice (Get a longer cab;e)
14:15 hoodedice *cable
14:15 Jordach thexyz, wut
14:16 Peacock i dont think a very long cable would help lag in that case?
14:16 Peacock plus, there's the cat
14:16 Peacock (kitty cat, not CAT5)
14:17 hoodedice (Optic fibre)
14:17 hoodedice !Peacock: Which state?
14:18 Peacock state?
14:18 Peacock La Belle Province :p
14:19 Peacock they do have fibre optics, but so long as theyre throttling speeds during peak hours, i wont pay more for the same
14:19 hoodedice Tu est Canadien?!
14:19 Peacock French Canadian :p too imaginative to be anglo-canadian :p
14:19 hoodedice =)
14:19 mitori Jordach, you were able to optimize minetest and didn't do the pull request or is it just me hearing (seeing) things?
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14:20 hoodedice !mitori : It was a hypothetical situation
14:21 hoodedice I was talking about a certain user who (if) found a certain exploit in the code to make it faster
14:21 Peacock when players timeout, is it my timeout i have to change, or do they have to change theirs?
14:21 mitori hoodedice too bad. anyway why did you put ! before my name?
14:21 hoodedice Habit.!
14:21 mitori alright.
14:21 mitori peace
14:21 hoodedice Peacock, will you mind shifting the teleporter thingy
14:22 Jordach hmm? i was making and eating warm buttery toast
14:22 Peacock oh dear, gimme a few minutes, gotta power up the old dinosaur (p4) :p
14:22 Jordach mitori, map saving is a pretty low value
14:22 Jordach change that to something like 300 seconds
14:23 Jordach (5 mins afaik)
14:23 Jordach btw, it's a conf setting.
14:23 hoodedice Peacock, ever heard of Evil-Dog?
14:24 Jordach bbl - halo 4 time
14:26 Peacock evil dog?
14:26 Peacock i think he got himself banned yeah
14:27 hoodedice Evil Dog as in the flash game dev / punk rock artist
14:27 hoodedice evil-dog.com
14:27 hoodedice (what was that command again)
14:27 PenguinDad !title
14:27 MinetestBot PenguinDad: My Random Blender Renders (Page 4) — Offtopic — Minetest Forums
14:28 PenguinDad http://evil-dog.com
14:28 PenguinDad !title
14:28 Peacock not a fan of flash games or punk rock lol
14:29 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Can't connect to http://evil-dog.com
14:29 hoodedice Well, he got 'Most creative game of the Year' for Road of the Dead
14:29 Exio4 hi weird people!
14:29 PenguinDad i hate flash games
14:29 hoodedice (Server's down)
14:29 PilzAdam hai princess Exio4
14:29 Peacock i think so too, i logged in and map didn't load
14:29 Exio4 hi Rainbow Adam
14:29 hoodedice (Not yours)
14:29 Peacock oph lol
14:29 Peacock still working tho?
14:30 hoodedice ya
14:30 Exio4 crossposting from other channel: http://cristgaming.com/pirate.swf
14:30 Exio4 lol
14:31 PilzAdam !title
14:31 MinetestBot PilzAdam: Document isn't HTML
14:31 hoodedice Limewire is so 2001
14:31 hoodedice Sorry, 2008
14:32 hoodedice What is this cubeworld?
14:32 hoodedice Another minetest ripoff?
14:32 Exio4 PilzAdam: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=LOL+LIMEWIRE
14:32 mirda hello, i have kubuntu and i use ppa daily-builds, now i am playing on landrush and i have empty chat log which can be opened by pressing F10
14:32 PilzAdam Exio4, NO >:-(
14:32 PilzAdam no google
14:33 Peacock getting alot more 'failed to emerge player' from latest git :/
14:34 hoodedice (No google fibers in Ohio)
14:34 hoodedice :|
14:34 Peacock hoodedice put one of those funky color lamps down where you want the transporter to be
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14:34 PilzAdam Exio4, when am I allowed to stop that?
14:35 Exio4 after 10 days
14:35 PilzAdam :-/
14:37 hoodedice Yo, you forgot the computer thingy
14:37 Peacock shit
14:37 hoodedice =)
14:38 hoodedice You must be A) Sleepy B) Busy
14:38 Peacock well we busted the chair for the p4's desk during the move lol
14:38 Peacock and my back is still killing me
14:38 Peacock :p
14:38 hoodedice =)
14:39 sfan5 can someone verify this works? http://jsbombghxqkzogdd.onion:8083/
14:39 Peacock tor site?
14:39 Calinou seems legit
14:39 PilzAdam sfan5, define "works"
14:40 Peacock http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/08/04/2054208/half-of-tor-sites-compromised-including-tormail
14:40 sfan5 works == loads and everything works
14:40 PilzAdam thats recursive
14:40 PilzAdam also define "loads"
14:40 hoodedice sfan5 : No?
14:41 PilzAdam you mean in a regular web browser?
14:41 sfan5 no, in the tor browser
14:41 hoodedice I see some sorta red rectangle
14:41 hoodedice Oh
14:41 hoodedice -.-
14:42 Exio4 sfan5, loads
14:42 mirda i read about compromising tor - problem was that some version of tor browser (firefox with some changes) had by default active javascript and users used this browser for browsing on normal internet
14:43 sfan5 Exio4: good
14:43 sfan5 mirda: only the first thing
14:43 Peacock for a bunch of people concerned about privacy, using Tor seems to have the opposite intended effect :p
14:43 sfan5 mirda: http://www.reddit.com/r/ReverseEngineering/comments/1jpln2/has_anyone_else_taken_a_look_at_the_shellcode/cbh1qpe
14:45 mirda ok
14:47 Exio4 my hears got destroyed by explosions sounds
14:47 Exio4 sfan5, gg (?)
14:47 sfan5 Exio4: gg
14:47 Exio4 :P
14:48 mirda F12 for screenshot also dont work for today build from ubuntu ppa daily-builds
14:54 PenguinDad !title
14:54 MinetestBot PenguinDad: moyix comments on Has anyone else taken a look at the shellcode that is driving the newest TOR/Firef[...]
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14:59 svuorela hmm... bow and arrows. is there a working mod with that (that works with simple mobs as well) ?
14:59 Exio4 throwing?
14:59 PilzAdam by PilzAdam
15:00 Exio4 if it doesn't work, slap PilzAdam til he updates it,
15:00 Exio4 s/,$/./
15:00 Peacock sitll waiting for the 'PilzAdam by PilzAdam' mod :p
15:00 PilzAdam Peacock, Pilztest coming really soon
15:00 Peacock fake player mobs would be cool :-)
15:01 Peacock hook it up with a chat bot to keep the kids busy lol
15:01 sfan5 Peacock: that wouldn't be nice
15:01 MinetestBot Then I clould play on MT servers \o/
15:01 Peacock yes you clould
15:02 Exio4 could pls
15:02 Peacock dunno, its somewhat irritating when a buncha kids sign on, dont build anything, and spam the chat
15:02 Exio4 ban him
15:02 Peacock and get pissed off when youre busy doing admin things
15:02 Exio4 and them or w/e
15:02 Peacock or, god forbid, building yourself lol
15:03 svuorela hmm.. some dude with the nick PilzAdam claims on the last page in the throwing forum post that it doesn't yet work with simple mobs ?
15:03 PilzAdam what an idiot
15:04 Exio4 lol..
15:04 PilzAdam I mean how lazy can you be to not update the damage system?
15:04 Peacock i suppose i could add a autoban rule for chat spamming
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15:05 mirda Peacock: this would be useful :)
15:05 PilzAdam Peacock, I always read Autobahn...
15:05 mirda :D
15:06 Peacock lol i know :P its the first thing i think of too :p
15:06 Peacock no highways on my map yet tho
15:06 pitriss Maybe better than ban will be lowering their health if they spam:D
15:06 Peacock so they can complain that theyre losing bacon strips?
15:06 Peacock (hearts)
15:06 PenguinDad PilzAdam: I read the same :)
15:07 Exio4 someone should make a "nocheatplus" mod for minetest
15:07 PilzAdam Exio4, YOU ARE A PIRATE.... LALALALALA
15:07 pitriss Yeah.. and complaining will eat 1/4 of health:D That will give them lesson:D
15:07 Exio4 that hooks into the chat (for looking if it spams or not, and so on)
15:07 Exio4 lol PilzAdam
15:07 Calinou also looks for people typing /pl
15:08 Peacock i could always timestamp each players' last four messages and check the average
15:08 Peacock pl?
15:08 PenguinDad I wanna sail, I wanna sail tonight.
15:09 Peacock i wonder what the lua function is for checking if a string is all caps
15:10 Peacock hm, stupid question, could use string.match
15:10 Exio4 i guess https://www.google.com/search?q=check+string+caps+lua
15:10 Exio4 :>
15:11 Peacock i need to find a lua .chm manual lol
15:11 * PilzAdam slaps Exio4 with ixquick.com
15:12 * Calinou slaps PilzAdam with startpage.com
15:12 * PilzAdam slaps Calinou with startmail beta
15:12 * Exio4 slaps Calinou & PilzAdam with yahoo
15:12 Exio4 trololol :3
15:12 PilzAdam !kick Exio4
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15:14 * PenguinDad slaps PilzAdam and Calinou with duckduckgo.com
15:14 PilzAdam lol
15:15 PilzAdam thats the little retarded brother of google
15:15 Peacock retarded -> PC translation -> "special" :p
15:16 Peacock or GOP if you're american :p
15:17 Peacock j/k
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15:23 cbg1990 algun server?
15:24 Exio4 cbg1990: que necesitas? el canal es para hablar en ingles principalmente
15:24 PenguinDad spain?
15:24 cbg1990 pues entoy empezando
15:24 Exio4 PenguinDad: yes, spanish
15:24 cbg1990 yes
15:24 PilzAdam isnt there ##minetest-es or something like that?
15:25 Exio4 PilzAdam: there is; i just wait a bit for the spam ;P
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15:28 Peacock interesting day for construction in montreal: at one site a piece of debris fell and killed a passerby, at another sit a sinkhole swallowed up a bulldozer + worker
15:29 sokomine did the worker escape or could be rescued?
15:29 Peacock no news yet
15:29 Peacock pictures are just starting to stream in on twitter
15:29 * sokomine stays away from buildings under construction in montreal
15:30 Peacock ah hell two years ago a piece of concrete fell off one (complete) tower, killing two
15:30 Peacock chunks of highway overhang
15:30 Peacock why dyou think i left that shithole? lol
15:30 sokomine sounds bad :-(
15:30 Peacock taxes and corruption keep going up, everything else is coming down LOL
15:31 Peacock city's so desperate for money their ticketing cyclists and people sitting on grass in parks
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15:32 Evergreen What about detroit?  :P
15:32 Peacock detroit is probably a lost cause :P its way too huge for it's population, and too expensive for it's tax base
15:33 Evergreen I went through detroit, and it honestly looked like a set for an apocalypse movie
15:33 Peacock and they say the 3rd world is abroad lol
15:35 Peacock i much prefer living in the "downtown" of a town, rather than the outskirts of a large city imo
15:37 Peacock especially with street gangs setting up shop in the suburbs lol
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15:41 Peacock i think respawn kicked off cheat detection: http://pastebin.com/u8tqtVEA
15:41 kaeza g*d this guy is dense https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103960#p103960
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15:41 kaeza hmmmm too
15:41 kaeza o hai :D
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15:50 PilzAdam bbl
15:51 PenguinDad !up 0gb.us
15:51 MinetestBot 0gb.us:30000 is up (294ms)
15:53 Peacock is this a good pattern for 5 or more digits? "%d%d%d%d(%d+)"
15:55 Peacock might wanna add ghost detection to anticheat too - i teleport to a player the other day that had no player entity but was obviously doing things
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16:23 Peacock ' NeoMoustic tried to dig unbreakable node' what is unbreakable node? (before many more get banned lol)
16:23 Exio4 cloud blocks
16:23 Peacock weird, i dont have any on the server :/
16:24 pitriss please can somebody tell me what means this: "Access denied.Reason:Could not allocate player.You may need to wait for a time. " message from MT client nobody who I asked didn't saw this yet..
16:24 Peacock player digged and placed a bunch of dry shrubs and got kicked off for unbreakable node
16:24 Peacock im getting that ALOT too pitriss
16:24 Exio4 i guess you meant "a LOT"?
16:25 Exio4 or is alot valid now?
16:25 Peacock plenty of people say alot
16:25 Exio4 yes, lots of people use facebook
16:25 Exio4 facebook is shit too
16:25 Exio4 next argument for writing like my ass?
16:26 Peacock get some coffee or get layed
16:26 pitriss Peacock: and did you find any solution except trying until it connects you?
16:26 Peacock if youre gonna be pissy why chat
16:26 Peacock pitriss i had to wait for the timeout message in my terminal to be able to reconnect
16:27 pitriss Peacock: ok..:)
16:29 Peacock in any case no one seems to know why so many players cant connect now :/
16:29 Exio4 try to make an useful bugreport
16:29 Exio4 and get what is wrong, and since when
16:30 Exio4 (what is wrong => what 'code' is failing)
16:30 Peacock 'failed to emerge player', its been documented in the past, its happening almost constantly now
16:30 Exio4 oh, that?
16:30 Peacock i built from the latest git as of this morning
16:31 Peacock as for bug reports ill leave that to the pros, my last one was closed with no resolution
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16:32 Exio4 i never was able to reproduce it in any way
16:33 Peacock my last bug report or this one?
16:34 Exio4 this one
16:34 Exio4 your last one was the rainbow lights, no?
16:34 Peacock no, the liquids not flowing into airlike nodes
16:36 Peacock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/828
16:36 Peacock as for players being unable to connect, i can't reproduce it on demand either, it just happens with 3/4's of people who try to come onto my server
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17:02 Peacock weirdness: when i startup minetest (on server tab) maps dont show up until i switch tabs and come back
17:03 ShadowNinja Calinou: Bug? http://imgur.com/OIKuaYk.png
17:03 Evergreen No, that isn't a bug
17:03 Evergreen I looked at the texture files
17:03 Calinou ShadowNinja: if you're talking about sides visible between nodes, this is unfixable.
17:03 Calinou the texture is split in 4, this is intended
17:04 Calinou (you can use it to make cool-looking stuff :P)
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17:15 PenguinDad Calinou: bug or easteregg https://github.com/Calinou/maptools/blob/master/aliases.lua#L89 ?
17:15 Calinou bug O_o
17:17 Peacock lol grass_u
17:17 Peacock i think grass is uk slang for ratting someone out lol
17:25 hmmmm anarchy in the UK!
17:25 Peacock heard it on Rocknrolla lol
17:26 sokomine btw, is there a way to call a function in a mod after all other mods have been loaded? (specificly their node definitions). i know i can use minetest.after, but it's difficult to guess the right timing
17:26 Peacock depends on the function i guess?
17:27 sokomine the right time is "after the nodes from all mods have been registered". and the why is: to see if a particular node exists/has on_generated defined
17:27 Peacock minetest.after(0 ...) should work for that
17:28 sokomine need that in the second mod now. for the colormachine, i did minetest.after
17:28 Peacock ui does/did the same
17:28 sokomine hm. is 0 safe enough?
17:28 Peacock should be called after everything else yeah
17:28 Peacock if not try 0.1
17:28 sokomine ok :-)
17:32 sokomine oh. compiled newest version, and the font is now so small i can barely make it out. how do i enlarge it?
17:32 Peacock that i can't help you with :/
17:33 ShadowNinja I beleive all nodes ahve to be registered durring the initial run of the mod, after 0 runs it on the first globalstep.
17:33 ShadowNinja sokomine: Check minetest.conf.example, something like font_size
17:38 PenguinDad !seen Jeija
17:38 MinetestBot PenguinDad: Sorry, I haven't seen jeija around.
17:38 iqualfragile yes, he is gon for quite a while now…
17:38 iqualfragile maybee he is taking a bath?
17:39 Peacock he got a sex change and moved to south america after robbing a few banks :p
17:39 PenguinDad Peacock: that's possible
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17:40 Peacock as good a theory as any :p
17:40 sokomine hm, i get only "WARNING: Font file was not found. Using default font." not sure if i've compiled ttf support in or forgot a lib
17:41 sokomine usually i use a more readable, larger font (a fixed one iirc...)
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17:52 ShadowNinja sfan5: Can you fix //copy, //move and any other commands that use schematics or set_node instead of LuaVoxelManip? There are actually a few versions of //copy that override each other...
17:59 sokomine hmm. most urgent now is the far too smal font that's difficult to read. setting font_size to a larger value (i.e. 24 for testing) does not seem to change anything. how do i check if freetype is compiled in?
18:00 PenguinDad sokomine: windows user?
18:00 sokomine no, linux
18:00 PenguinDad then compile minetest yourself
18:01 sokomine that's what i always do
18:03 PenguinDad cmake . -DENABLE_FREETYPE=ON
18:03 LazyJ or
18:03 LazyJ cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1
18:03 LazyJ That works for me, at least.
18:04 sokomine ah, ok, some freetypes libs seems to be missing. does anyone know offhand how the packages are called in debian?
18:04 LazyJ I've been having trouble getting VanessaE 's fonts to work atm
18:05 sokomine same here. i use them as well. during the latest pull, they got renamed/moved
18:05 PenguinDad sokomine: something like libfreetype*-dev
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18:05 sokomine any reason for using gettext?
18:05 LazyJ Her post on the forums has the file names separated with underscores.
18:06 PenguinDad sokomine: no
18:06 LazyJ The png file names aren't separated, but even that typo-fix didn't do it.
18:06 LazyJ I throw it in there just to be thorough.
18:07 sokomine yes, strange. i liked that font. it had some issues with formspecs and was sometimes not adjusted correctly. i'll try with ttf now
18:07 * LazyJ looks for his pair of duct-taped-together magnifying glasses to wear.
18:08 sokomine :-)
18:08 sokomine my screen is too far away for that tiny font as well
18:08 Calinou mese glasses!
18:09 LazyJ Hehehe...
18:09 Peacock mese asses - for buns of steel
18:09 Calinou balls of mese
18:09 Peacock lol
18:09 LazyJ Calinou, is Misa still the most complete texture pack (support the most mods)?
18:09 * sokomine looks at them and wanders on
18:10 Calinou LazyJ: no, HDX is likely to have better support
18:10 Calinou but misa has a decent amount of mods
18:10 LazyJ Aye, one of the reasons I stick with Misa is the support.
18:11 LazyJ Is HDX going to be the tp you will maintain the most now?
18:11 Exio4 HDX is VanessaE's
18:11 sokomine hmm. any tree experts here?
18:11 * sokomine is looking for a suitable Dorflinde (a tree found in the center of villages)
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18:14 LazyJ Hmm... photo-realistic tp's don't seem to fit well with Minetest, at least in my opinion.
18:14 sokomine oh, yes, fine! thank you. works now with ttf-fonts compiled in. i can read the font again!
18:15 LazyJ Minetest is surreal, not quite real-life.
18:15 sokomine lazyj: hm, yes. i think i like that approach of (was it bas080?): use more detailled textures for rarer/more complex to craft nodes
18:15 LazyJ Misa seems to be a better fit for me. ;)
18:15 Exio4 i don't like HDX in a blocky world either :P
18:16 sokomine the homedecor furniture is very fine with detailled graphics, and technic machines also look good with high resolution
18:16 LazyJ I've seen tp's that look too smooth, too plastic-like.
18:16 LazyJ Exio4, agreed. In a blocky world, blocky imagery fits.
18:17 LazyJ But to each their own.
18:17 Exio4 https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5355
18:17 PenguinDad Exio4: yeah i like that TP
18:18 LazyJ Ah, yes, Paramat's textures. I saw those in the canyon/chasm/landup series.
18:18 LazyJ Minetoon was another one that caught my interest.
18:18 LazyJ But I found myself always coming back to Misa.
18:18 Exio4 that TP is amazing and is "only" 16x
18:18 LazyJ Again, to each their own.
18:19 sokomine those hand-drawn images are also fine. they have their own style. havn't really tried them yet (i usually stick to default because that's where my houses have to look well) but it's an intresting texture pack
18:19 LazyJ Misa seems to be the right blend of "blocky" and HD without being photo-realistic. Props, Calinou. :)
18:20 Calinou I didn't draw it
18:20 Exio4 it is a convertion
18:20 LazyJ But you did convert it, and adapt it to support many MT mods. ;)
18:22 LazyJ Anyway, I'm back to battling with fonts. :/
18:22 sokomine at least for me the battle was won! except that it's a bit too large now
18:23 LazyJ sokomine, where you able to get VanessaE 's fonts to work?
18:23 sokomine no. but i got the default ones to get large enough to get well readable
18:24 LazyJ Bummer.
18:25 LazyJ Ok, I'll recompile and go back to the freetype for the time being.
18:26 mh0 <Calinou> I didn't draw it
18:27 mh0 I know you only draw clop
18:27 mh0 :/
18:28 Calinou ._.
18:28 Calinou no u
18:28 mh0 yes me
18:29 PenguinDad maybe they
18:29 Exio4 mh0 is the one who knows about that stuff
18:29 Exio4 he is the expert at the rule34 about MLP
18:29 mh0 surely
18:30 mh0 from looking at other channels, Exio is also very knowledgeable of this r34 MLP
18:30 mh0 he appears to be adept in searching it
18:32 Exio4 i prefer real porn
18:32 Exio4 :>
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18:39 sdzen greetings people of #minetest (shameless advertisement) me and ray8888 are testing darkroses minetest-classic client to see if running a server on windows is stable please visit zenoheld.minetest.net:30001 to aid in our efforts
18:42 LazyJ sdzen, is a 0.3.0 build required to connect (old MT??) ?
18:46 Peacock i think you need darkroses' minetest classic build yeah, since theyve made a number ofchanges
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18:54 GNADev|zRokh hi
18:54 GNADev|zRokh i just installed linux :D
18:55 PenguinDad G'Day GNADev|zRokh
18:55 GNADev|zRokh guess what distro :D
18:55 PenguinDad Archlinux?
18:55 GNADev|zRokh nope :D
18:55 GNADev|zRokh !hint: 0 votes
18:56 GNADev|zRokh oh, you dont know the vote :D
18:56 PenguinDad Trisquel
18:56 GNADev|zRokh yeah!
18:56 GNADev|zRokh :D
18:56 GNADev|zRokh how did you know?
18:57 PenguinDad only guessing
18:57 GNADev|zRokh LIAR!!!
18:57 GNADev|zRokh :D
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18:57 GNADev|zRokh ok, whos up for some Minetest?
19:01 GNADev|zRokh PenguinDad, wanna play?
19:02 LazyJ sokomine, I just tried a couple other ttf fonts.
19:03 LazyJ DejaVuSansCondensed-Bold.ttf seems to be a good replacement for Vanessa's fonts in the meantime.
19:03 Exio4 wut?
19:03 LazyJ Have to specify in the minetest.conf.
19:03 VanessaE LazyJ: are you using a recent git build?
19:03 LazyJ VanessaE, yup.
19:03 Exio4 you can use freetype = false and set the font to VanessaE's
19:03 VanessaE I updated the install instructions early this morning
19:04 LazyJ Aye, saw the change.
19:04 PenguinDad GNADev|zRokh: my internet connection is to bad today
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19:04 LazyJ The font names don't have underscores separating them (unless you've change the font file names).
19:04 VanessaE that change only works if you're using today's latest git
19:04 PenguinDad WB PilzAdam
19:04 VanessaE and yeah, I've already changed *that* also
19:04 LazyJ 2013_08_04
19:04 PilzAdam thx
19:05 LazyJ I tried compiling with and without freetype.
19:05 VanessaE what commit ID?
19:05 LazyJ Still no go.
19:05 LazyJ Uh, oh.  Where do I find the commit ID?
19:06 LazyJ Lot of numbers?
19:06 VanessaE beats me, maybe the filename of the zip you downloaded
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19:06 LazyJ Your font commit or MT commit?
19:06 VanessaE MT
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19:07 LazyJ Hmm.... when I download I get 'minetest-master.zip'
19:07 VanessaE hm
19:07 Jordach https://github.com/minetest/minetest
19:07 LazyJ Fix crack overlay for animated textures is the last addition.
19:07 VanessaE that's the latest all right
19:07 Jordach just beated Halo 4
19:07 LazyJ I download from Github
19:07 PilzAdam god this signature is annyoing: https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=6589
19:08 LazyJ Hehehe... at least it's not my signature. :)-
19:08 VanessaE I suggest re-checking your installation steps, you have to have missed something,.
19:08 LazyJ Will gettext cause a problem?
19:08 VanessaE shouldn't.
19:08 Jordach as a moderator; i can solve that
19:08 jin_xi luckily you can disable sigs
19:09 LazyJ This is the cmake I use:
19:09 LazyJ cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE=1 -DENABLE_GETTEXT=1 -DENABLE_FREETYPE=1
19:09 VanessaE did you do,  freetype=false in minetest.conf?
19:09 LazyJ Minus the "-DENABLE_FREETYPE=1" part.
19:09 VanessaE that supposedly doesn't matter :)
19:09 LazyJ Yup, freetype=false in minetest.conf
19:10 LazyJ sokomine has had the same trouble.
19:10 VanessaE ~/.minetest/minetest.conf -->  font_path = /home/lazyj/.minetest/fonts/font_dejavu_sans.png
19:10 LazyJ I noticed MT said it was looking for the fonts in ../textures after I compiled it and ran it unaltered the first time.
19:11 VanessaE well run-in-place = 1
19:11 VanessaE so,
19:11 LazyJ Yup, file path is correct, except for the underscores.
19:11 VanessaE /home/lazyj/minetest-master/minetest.conf -->  font_path = /home/lazyj/minetest-master/fonts/font_dejavu_sans.png
19:11 LazyJ I downloaded your fonts about a month ago, any changes since?
19:11 VanessaE yes, they've since been renamed.
19:12 LazyJ Ah.
19:12 VanessaE the names you use in minetest.conf must exactly match the filenames.
19:12 LazyJ I change the path to match the filenames I currently have.
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19:12 LazyJ I didn't see an "update" in the posts header so I assumed the font png's hadn't changed.
19:13 VanessaE only the filenames changed, and I changed my install instructions to accommodate
19:13 VanessaE so if you copied my install instructions exactly, you'll have to rename your downloaded files to match
19:13 LazyJ Ok, so I have the same bitmap font files (just a name change).
19:13 VanessaE yeah
19:13 LazyJ * so I do have
19:14 LazyJ I'm downloading a fresh copy of the font files and will recompile a fresh MT.
19:14 VanessaE and you're putting your config lines into minetest.conf inside the source code folder?
19:14 VanessaE (not minetest.conf.example)
19:15 LazyJ Correct.  ../minetest/minetest.conf
19:16 VanessaE mmh
19:16 VanessaE I dunno what's wrong then
19:16 LazyJ I have a heavily edited/added minetest.conf file with notes to myself.
19:16 VanessaE either the files aren't where they need to be, or the .conf isn't :)
19:16 VanessaE or the filenames don't match the config lines
19:16 LazyJ The other changes I've added to the minetest.conf occur, so it's the one.
19:17 VanessaE also, I use full absolute paths in the config
19:17 VanessaE never relative (../etc)
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19:18 LazyJ Same here:   /home/lazyj/minetest/minetest.conf  etc
19:18 LazyJ I've been fiddling with other ttf and the changes I make in the minetest.conf file are reflected in MT.
19:19 VanessaE can you pastebin your .conf and the output of `find ./ -name "font*.png" `
19:19 LazyJ Even tried an arabic, sanscrit font just to be sure. Yup, it worked. Worms on the MT tabs. :)
19:19 VanessaE (run the latter from within /home/lazyj )
19:20 LazyJ Where does that last command go?  The terminal aimed at ../minetest folder?
19:21 LazyJ Ahk... run the latter from within /home/lazyj
19:21 LazyJ Ok, give me a few minutes to compile and gather.
19:23 VanessaE ok
19:24 LazyJ With or without gettex and freetype?
19:24 VanessaE with freetype compiled in
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19:24 LazyJ Ok
19:24 VanessaE gettext shouldn't matter (that's for translations isn't it?)
19:25 LazyJ I'm not sure. I've been waiting for my MT to stop saying "invalid multi-string" whenever a non-english person chats or writes a sign.
19:26 LazyJ In the IRC client the chat appears blank, on the signs MT replaces whatever was written with the invalid multi-byte string or something like that.
19:26 Jordach TIL i'm a person who doesnt update
19:27 VanessaE weird
19:30 VanessaE bbl
19:42 PilzAdam Jordach, just ban him: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104009#p104009
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19:45 PenguinDad PilzAdam: i totally agree
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19:56 sdzen I think that guy needs the hammer :)
19:57 * Calinou hands sdzen a Powerjack
20:04 LazyJ VanessaE, when you see this: finished recompiling and installed newly downloaded bitmap fonts.
20:05 LazyJ Added the bitmap fonts (and corresponding lines to minetest.conf) as the only alteration.
20:05 LazyJ And they worked.
20:05 LazyJ Then I started adding my other alterations one-by-one and the bitmap fonts continued to work in MT>
20:06 LazyJ *.
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20:06 LazyJ sokomine was having the same trouble so I wonder if she too was using the older font download.
20:06 LazyJ If that was the gremlin.
20:07 LazyJ Out of all of this I did learn a new font trick in MT. This will expand the text/font options for other players.
20:08 LazyJ Some may prefer serif fonts.
20:08 LazyJ Some may prefer more cartoonish fonts (to go with Minetoon tp).
20:08 LazyJ Others, like me, are wanting thicker-stroked fonts for better readability.
20:09 LazyJ The copy right issues involving ttf fonts is a matter for the players to deal with (wink, wink).
20:09 LazyJ The "how to" is free information.
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20:10 Evergreen If you want better readability, use VanessaE's custome font
20:11 Evergreen *custom
20:11 Jordach sdzen, ro-tate! ro-tate your owls!
20:11 Evergreen Lol, I saw that post
20:11 sdzen :)
20:11 Jordach PilzAdam, point him at the tutorial and lua-api.txt
20:11 LazyJ Evergreen, that's what I have been using, but today's daily-build compile fubared them.
20:11 sdzen "The maximum image size allowed is 60x60 pixels and 10,240 bytes (10 KB)." am I the only one who doesnt understand this limit?
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20:12 Evergreen Epic quotes of 2013:   sdzen,  "To make a minetest mod, rotate an owl several times.   That is all you need to do."
20:12 PilzAdam Jordach, no, I simply ignore such posts now
20:13 LazyJ So I chatted with Vanessa, and downloaded every thing fresh.
20:13 Jordach hold the fuck on
20:13 LazyJ Then instead of dumping in all my alterations at once (like I usually do) I put things in one at time and her fonts worked.
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20:14 ShadowNinja sokomine: .../travelnet/init.lua:391: attempt to index a nil value -- I think door_node is unknown, and therefore not in minetest.registered_nodes.
20:15 sdzen Pilzadam: at least count yourself lucky images are not allowed in signatures :)
20:19 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/iSV1jYp.png
20:19 Jordach someone go post that
20:19 Jordach if my name is said i'll remove it </taking the piss>
20:20 Calinou imgur has a meme generator now?
20:20 Jordach yus
20:20 PilzAdam Jordach, what if I PM him this?
20:20 Jordach it's been there for ~1 month
20:20 Jordach PilzAdam, sure
20:21 PilzAdam with your name
20:21 * Jordach slaps PilzAdam
20:22 Jordach PilzAdam, you PM that with my name and i delete the image
20:22 PilzAdam I reupload it and point to these logs
20:22 Jordach going going gone
20:26 PenguinDad shit haven't seen it :/
20:28 sdzen jordach I think someone posted it
20:29 Jordach i know it's you sdzen
20:29 Jordach your IP matches
20:29 sdzen wasnt trying to hide it :)
20:30 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/gU6BEao.png
20:30 Jordach banned and deleted
20:31 Calinou WTF?
20:31 PilzAdam Jordach, ummm
20:31 Calinou Jordach: I wouldn't ban people just because they have bad spelling/english/are hyperactive
20:31 PilzAdam why do you ban that account?
20:31 * Jordach doesnt like trolls who look like me
20:31 Calinou oh, I thought you were talking about that "GGA BOOK" guy
20:31 Calinou also: windows fonts are ugly. :3
20:32 Jordach i can live with that
20:32 * Jordach uses consolas for IRC
20:32 Jordach yes, the i cant believe it's not DoS Console text
20:33 sokomine shadowninja: hm, the travelnets with the doors ought to function fine. havn't run into that issue
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20:47 GNADev|zRokh install = sudo apt-get install
20:48 GNADev|zRokh oh, i got it, its remove :D\
20:48 iqualfragile GNADev|zRokh: 3.1 is outdated like fück, assuming you are using ubuntu: use thishttps://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/daily-builds/+packages
20:48 Calinou 0.3.1 you mean
20:49 GNADev|zRokh trisquel-mini (trisquel with LXDE)
20:49 Calinou trisquel? well, enjoy your lack of firmware
20:49 GNADev|zRokh what?
20:49 GNADev|zRokh o.O
20:49 PenguinDad 3.1 is the newest minetest :D
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20:49 Calinou you went for trisquel even though it had 0 votes
20:49 Calinou you are supposed to follow the votes you were given...
20:49 * GNADev|zRokh thinks PenguinDad is too smart to be here
20:49 Calinou else, why make a poll :P
20:50 GNADev|zRokh check the last answer maybe?
20:50 GNADev|zRokh o.O
20:51 sfan5 "proller >> Mod Helper" http://www.crevis.net/about.html
20:52 sfan5 ^ wat?
20:52 GNADev|zRokh how do i unzip a .zip?
20:53 GNADev|zRokh it doenst open it
20:53 Jordach sudo apt-get install file-roller
20:53 sfan5 GNADev|zRokh: use google before you fucking ask
20:53 Calinou unzip filename.zip
20:53 Calinou :p
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20:53 Calinou sfan5: be nice to people
20:54 sfan5 No, not today
20:54 Calinou also, people don't like googling
20:54 Calinou that's a fact :P
20:54 PilzAdam "Free to play and download!" "5$ to get the pre-release"
20:54 sfan5 if you don't like googling use duckduckgo
20:54 Calinou the releases are free
20:54 iqualfragile why the fork is somebody unable to unzip a file using trisquel?
20:54 sfan5 PilzAdam: yeah, noticed that too
20:54 Calinou iqualfragile: dark non-free magic.exe
20:54 PilzAdam note that this is illegal
20:54 sokomine what's trisquel?
20:55 Calinou a free distro
20:55 GNADev|zRokh !g trisquel unzip xarchiver error
20:55 ShadowBot GNADev|zRokh: http://distrowatch.com/index.php?distribution=partedmagic
20:55 iqualfragile debian -properitary
20:55 iqualfragile sokomine: ↑
20:55 sokomine ah! thanks for the info
20:55 Calinou iqualfragile: proprietarioty!
20:55 Calinou that is how you spell "proprietary" ;)
20:55 PilzAdam GNADev|zRokh, stop using the bot in this channel for personal searches
20:55 GNADev|zRokh can i /msg?
20:56 sokomine perhaps apt-get install unzip might help in that case
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20:56 Calinou I'd disable !g entirely to non-ops, that'd maybe help, PilzAdam
20:56 PilzAdam ^ ShadowNinja, sfan5
20:56 Jordach or just a simple blacklist of function barred to certain users
20:56 sfan5 Calinou: nah
20:56 * Jordach suggests people who can !op get that priv
20:57 Calinou it's abused more often that it is used
20:57 jin_xi op op oppan gangnam style
20:57 PilzAdam sfan5, "Crevis uses the Minetest engine for a basic structure of the game" this is also not very accurate, it uses all other parts of Minetest too
20:57 PilzAdam minetest_game and stuff
20:57 GNADev|zRokh i used duckduckgo, input =  "how to unzip an archive in trisquel"; output = http://www.trisquel.info
20:57 GNADev|zRokh WTF :D
20:57 Calinou well, very few people use trisquel
20:57 jin_xi duckduckgo is useless
20:57 GNADev|zRokh :D
20:57 Calinou no u
20:57 jin_xi lol
20:57 GNADev|zRokh anyways.....
20:57 Calinou I still prefer startpage, yea
20:57 Jordach it's like THEBOGGAMAN77
20:58 Jordach i just turned the burn setting to 999
20:58 Jordach 9*
20:59 Evergreen 0_o,
20:59 Evergreen Don't EVER SAY THAt about DuckDuckgo again
21:00 * Jordach passes a kidney stone
21:00 Jordach that hurt. (not literal)
21:00 * GNADev|zRokh is converting .zip to .tar.bz2
21:00 GNADev|zRokh :P
21:00 Calinou why?
21:00 jin_xi wut
21:00 GNADev|zRokh :D
21:00 sdzen why not
21:00 sfan5 perfect! LGPL v2.1 allows people to sell the software in executeable form (actually it doesn't forbid it)
21:00 sokomine if he likes it....
21:00 GNADev|zRokh exactly :D
21:00 Calinou sfan5: they can't sell the game with misa pack
21:01 Calinou misa disallows commercial use of her pack
21:01 sfan5 Calinou: thats right
21:01 Jordach the mods probably dont allow commercial either
21:01 sfan5 but why don't we disallow commercial use of minetest?
21:01 GNADev|zRokh but why should they
21:01 GNADev|zRokh .-.
21:01 Calinou why should we? minetest is FOSS
21:01 Calinou Jordach: most mods do
21:01 jin_xi ikd i dont mind crevis selling prereleases
21:02 Jordach if they can't even compile minetest they wont make it far
21:02 PilzAdam sfan5, but you have to proved a source download
21:02 Jordach just make a fucking game
21:02 sfan5 PilzAdam: yeah, which they haven't done
21:04 sfan5 and they use mediafire for file hosting(even though they have a weebly site) with DLs with f**king 25 KB/s
21:04 * Jordach growls
21:04 Jordach started webradio: first thing heard is an ad
21:04 Jordach fuck me right
21:04 GNADev|zRokh omfg......... >:(
21:04 Calinou <webradio> no, fuck you wrong
21:05 Jordach sfan5, you might be having a shitty connection: i get 400 kb/s from MF
21:05 sfan5 Jordach: I have an 1.0MB/s connection
21:05 * Jordach has 8.0MB/s
21:06 Jordach it usually sits about 6.7MB/s during peak
21:06 * GNADev|zRokh has 800kb/s down, ?kb/s up
21:06 PilzAdam joined #minetest
21:06 Jordach within the next ~5 years; fibre should be coming
21:07 ShadowNinja I am getting 0.1MB/s. This should be a LOT faster.
21:07 ShadowNinja Hah, the minetest zip finished in <1s.
21:08 PenguinDad ShadowNinja: i get the same
21:08 PilzAdam PenguinDad, hm?
21:09 Jordach i already have that piece of crap sitting in C:/Users/Jordach/Downloads
21:09 PenguinDad o_O
21:09 PenguinDad PilzAdam: what is your problem?
21:10 PilzAdam <Jordach> i already have that piece of crap sitting in C:\Windows\
21:10 PilzAdam PenguinDad, no problem here
21:10 Jordach PilzAdam, lol
21:13 GNADev|zRokh how do i start the terminal emulator here, not xTerm?
21:14 PilzAdam GNADev|zRokh, there is a mod for that
21:14 sfan5 GNADev|zRokh: don't use something you don't know how to use
21:14 Jordach ctrl + shft + t
21:14 GNADev|zRokh it dont work........
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21:15 GNADev|zRokh ok nevermind.....
21:16 GNADev|zRokh ugh, one more thing..... i promise this is the last thing....how do i compile it again? dont give me a link, tell me how...
21:16 Semilevel :|
21:17 Semilevel I want to mingw32
21:17 Semilevel Google it.
21:18 Semilevel 'how do I compile minetest'
21:18 GNADev|zRokh !g how do I compile minetest
21:18 ShadowBot GNADev|zRokh: http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
21:19 GNADev|zRokh !ping
21:19 ShadowBot pong
21:19 GNADev|zRokh :D
21:19 PilzAdam GNADev|zRokh, stop abusing the bot
21:19 GNADev|zRokh stop abusing me :D
21:19 PenguinDad !ping PenguinDad
21:19 ShadowBot pong
21:19 Jordach !op
21:19 ShadowBot Jordach: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
21:19 GNADev|zRokh ping
21:19 Jordach dammit MinetestBot!
21:19 PilzAdam !op Jordach
21:20 GNADev|zRokh plz no
21:20 Jordach GNADev|zRokh, ^
21:20 GNADev|zRokh no plz, i fan
21:20 PilzAdam Jordach, banhammer
21:20 Jordach PilzAdam*
21:20 Jordach hitting in 10 seconds
21:20 GNADev|zRokh was kicked by Jordach: GNADev|zRokh
21:20 * Jordach glues it shut
21:21 * Jordach also knows where MinetestBot is
21:21 sfan5 ShadowBot: stfu
21:21 ShadowBot sfan5: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
21:21 PilzAdam hm? why do you keep that !*GNADev|zR ?
21:21 sfan5 ShadowBot: goddamnit
21:21 PilzAdam sfan5, MinetestBot is not here
21:21 ShadowNinja !channel capability add sfan5 op
21:21 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded.
21:21 sfan5 ShadowBot: stfu
21:21 ShadowBot sfan5: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
21:21 sfan5 what the fuck
21:21 ShadowNinja sfan5: Identify.
21:22 Semilevel !g sexual encounters in space
21:22 ShadowBot Semilevel: http://www.space.com/5594-worse-sex-space-inevitable.html
21:22 sfan5 ShadowBot: stfu
21:22 ShadowBot sfan5: The operation succeeded.
21:23 Jordach Semilevel, they will kick you too
21:23 Semilevel I just used the !g command once.
21:23 * Jordach found minetestbot: http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/295/sadbot.png
21:24 sfan5 Jordach: where is the flower?
21:24 Jordach on the other side
21:24 Jordach (it's on the left not right)
21:24 Jordach http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/294/mtbot.png
21:24 Jordach ^ there it is with voxel extrusions
21:25 Jordach (i actually have a template model for these models)
21:25 Jordach the hat layer isnt in cube form until i extrude it
21:25 sfan5 Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/f6LvAI9.png
21:26 Jordach sfan5, look in /games/
21:26 Jordach DUN DUN DURR
21:26 sfan5 a .rar archive x(
21:26 Jordach it's minetest_game
21:27 Jordach http://http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
21:27 Jordach you can press it
21:28 Exio4 hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii.com
21:28 Exio4 ;D
21:28 Exio4 :D *
21:28 sfan5 [...]/minetest_game/mods/bluestone is full of mesecons_* things
21:28 ShadowNinja /crevis/crevis/crevis2.2/crevis/ <-- Not enough folder depth ;-)
21:28 Jordach crevis MUST GO DEEPER
21:29 sfan5 "[...]/minetest_game/mods/calinou_mods-master/"
21:29 Jordach DUN DUN DURR
21:29 sfan5 they didn't even rename the folder
21:29 Jordach okay, i need that to be a user command
21:30 Jordach there is now a user list button that does: "DUN DUN DURR"
21:30 ShadowNinja ...mods/calinou_mods-master
21:30 Jordach and i thought I WAS LAZY
21:31 ShadowNinja mods/canyon <-- Enjoy your molasis mapgen.
21:32 ShadowNinja Also landup and volcano...
21:32 ShadowNinja ...and walking_light.
21:32 sfan5 and these people call them a company
21:32 sfan5 also:"Crevis uses the Minetest engine for a basic structure of the game"
21:33 Jordach heres what crevis are: http://krautchan.net/files/1375736684001.jpg
21:33 sfan5 THATS NOT A BASIC FUCKING STRUCTURE!!
21:33 Jordach sfan5.rage(self, true)
21:33 sfan5 "Korie Harvey >> Director of Logical Ideas"
21:33 * Jordach lols
21:33 Jordach this gets better and better
21:33 sfan5 ^ WHAT THE F**K, NOTHING THEY DO IS LOGICAL
21:33 * Jordach sits down and eats popcorn
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21:34 sfan5 "Timothy Suwityarat (xLOLxTSNOOPS) >> Web Moderator, Texture Designer, Compiler, Game Tester"
21:34 sfan5 ^ yeah, sure
21:34 sfan5 as if they compiled something
21:34 PilzAdam "Compiler"
21:34 PilzAdam I thought they'd use mingw or MSVC
21:34 sfan5 seriously, who has put this bird poop in their brains?
21:34 Jordach it's *not* like you could have used BlockMen's sfan5, PilzAdam's or Fess' builds
21:35 * Jordach likes sfan5 angry
21:35 PilzAdam ^
21:36 Exio4 sfan5, poor bird poop
21:36 sfan5 "Texture Designer" "Textures Developer" "Artist"
21:36 sfan5 ^ wut
21:36 Jordach s/bird poop/STUPID SHIT
21:36 PilzAdam he is also the creator of textures
21:36 sfan5 Exio4: EXACTLY, I'M FEELING SORRY FOR THE BIRD POOP
21:36 Exio4 haha
21:36 sfan5 maybe I should .lower() my messages
21:37 Jordach nah
21:37 Jordach i actually like it
21:37 PilzAdam sfan5, PM him in the forum and say that his "project" is illegal
21:37 * Jordach is actually physically laughing
21:37 * sfan5 is physically raging
21:37 Exio4 Jordach: when i wrote "haha" i was laughing irl too :>
21:37 sfan5 AND THE NICKNAMES; LOOK AT THEM
21:37 sfan5 FPSxAMERICA
21:38 Semilevel !g marlon.ws
21:38 sfan5 xLOLxTSNOOPS
21:38 Exio4 and well, i'm liking this too .. should i feel bad?
21:38 Exio4 sfan5: xLOLx
21:38 sfan5 CaptionZombies12
21:38 * Jordach sniggers
21:38 PilzAdam xxxXXXxxXXxXXxxXXx<<<<<<<<PilzAdamPROGAMER>>>>>>>>>>><xxxxXXXXXxxxxxXXxx
21:38 PilzAdam thats my new nick
21:38 sfan5 ^
21:38 Semilevel !g special needs for minetest
21:38 Exio4 you missed an Y
21:38 Jordach i read that as PilzAdamProgrammer
21:38 sfan5 xxxXX<ZombieSlayer>sfan5[PrOgAmEr]XXxxx
21:39 Exio4 i have a super-cool nick for this
21:39 sfan5 ARE THESE GUYS 12 YEAR
21:39 sfan5 S OLD?
21:39 Jordach **
21:39 Exio4 no, i guess they are 1.2
21:39 Jordach fixed ;)
21:39 Exio4 :>
21:40 sfan5 "Andrew Warner >> Helper "
21:40 PilzAdam sfan5, they havent seen an uterus (yet)
21:40 PilzAdam but coming really sooon (TM)
21:40 sfan5 ^ they don't need any help, they're dumb already
21:40 sfan5 PilzAdam: yeah, sooooooon(TM)
21:40 PilzAdam sfan5> "Andrew Warner >> Helper " <- its probably his father
21:41 Exio4 :P
21:41 Jordach just [off] at the start
21:41 sfan5 Jordach: no we shouldn't
21:41 PilzAdam Exio4, read the docs of loggingbot_
21:41 Exio4 oh
21:41 Exio4 didn't recall about the loggingbot
21:41 Jordach meow
21:41 * sfan5 gifts a kitten to Jordach
21:42 * sfan5 gifts a kitten to NekoGloop
21:42 hacker joined #minetest
21:42 * PilzAdam puts his hand up and looks stupid in the logs now
21:42 hacker THIS IS MY NEW NICK!
21:42 * sfan5 puts a kitten on hacker's head
21:42 PilzAdam hay Exio4
21:42 Jordach http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aBKYyLA_460s_v1.jpg
21:42 NekoGloop sfan5, why did you ping me, I'm busy.
21:42 sfan5 NekoGloop: because I heard that you meowed silently
21:43 NekoGloop You're insade
21:43 NekoGloop insane
21:44 Jordach fuck; can't meow like a cat tonight
21:44 Jordach oh, there we go
21:44 sfan5 meow
21:45 sfan5 awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
21:46 Jordach NekoGloop, it doesnt work for /me
21:46 sfan5 damnit where is MinetestBot, won't she come back?
21:46 Jordach sfan5, SIGTERM python
21:46 Jordach you will need to kill her :(
21:46 sdzen so what the hell is crevis?
21:47 PilzAdam sdzen, poop
21:47 * Jordach strokes beard: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=103782#p103782
21:47 sfan5 sdzen: some minetest ripoff, all they did was install some mods and rename the executable to crevis.exe
21:47 * Jordach wonders who that is
21:47 sfan5 and they want to sell a pre-release for $5
21:48 Jordach my shit is worth more than $5
21:48 Exio4 lol sfan5
21:48 Exio4 didn't know that part
21:48 sfan5 Jordach: exactly
21:48 Jordach lemme go shit in a bucket and sell it on ebay
21:48 Exio4 XD
21:49 sfan5 Jordach: I can buy it
21:49 Jordach if it goes for more than $5 bucks; my shit is worth more than crevis
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21:49 Jordach and then i'll buy crevis to see how shit it is
21:49 Jordach compared to my shit
21:49 sfan5 hahah
21:49 sfan5 (physically laughed)
21:49 PilzAdam sdzen, and they frequently send e-mails to celeron and me asking to put the link at the top of our website
21:49 sdzen so can we shut them down?
21:49 sdzen or is it not possible?
21:50 jin_xi well, its a game based on the minetest engine, so whats the trouble?
21:50 PilzAdam they dont provide the sourcecode, which is illegal
21:50 MinetestBot joined #minetest
21:50 sfan5 sdzen: only for not releasing the source code, but they used the official 0.4.7 executable IIRC
21:50 NekoGloop What's their modlist?
21:50 PilzAdam jin_xi, they dont advertise it as such
21:50 jin_xi well, poke them about it... i dont think they have the source themselves...
21:50 Exio4 they added someone that is a "compiler"
21:50 Exio4 so i guess they at least know how to code batch and visual basic 6
21:51 PilzAdam sfan5, is that MinetestBot real?
21:51 sfan5 PilzAdam: yep
21:51 Exio4 (myself 6~7 years ago :D)
21:51 sfan5 PilzAdam: try a whois
21:51 sfan5 * [MinetestBot] is logged in as MinetestBot
21:51 PilzAdam Exio4, so you are 5 now?
21:51 * sfan5 's first programming language was Visual Basic
21:51 Exio4 fffffffffff
21:52 PilzAdam mine was Java
21:52 sfan5 !c 0xfffffffffff
21:52 MinetestBot 1.7592186 × 10^(13)
21:52 sfan5 ^ Exio4
21:52 Exio4 lol
21:52 Jordach !c 0xBIGB00B5
21:52 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
21:52 sfan5 NekoGloop: you mean /crevis/crevis/crevis/crevis2.2/crevis/games/minetest_game/mods/
21:52 PilzAdam Jordach, sfan5, we should use "plol" for physically laughing
21:53 Jordach plol
21:53 Exio4 i learned my first "skills" with VB6 & TP :P
21:53 sfan5 plol
21:53 Exio4 Turbo Pascal
21:53 NekoGloop they can't even be bothered to rename the game?
21:53 sfan5 nope
21:53 Exio4 renaming is too hard NekoGloop
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21:53 Jordach /give Jordach bucket:full_of_shit
21:54 Jordach lets sell this thing
21:54 * sfan5 buys a bucket full of shit from Jordach for $5.01
21:54 Jordach plol
21:54 PilzAdam canadian dollars?
21:54 Jordach you cant even give your two cents; lol
21:55 sdzen can we redirect the offtopic section of the forum to their forum?
21:55 * sdzen hopes yes
21:55 sfan5 Jordach: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2876790581.png whats yours?
21:56 sfan5 sdzen: Yes we can!
21:56 Exio4 wtf
21:56 Exio4 > slower than the 56% of DE
21:57 Exio4 my connection is slower than the 99% of ARG
21:58 Jordach http://www.speedtest.net/result/2568476190.png
21:58 sfan5 Jordach: holy shit
21:58 PilzAdam sfan5, http://www.speedtest.net/result/2883083482.png
21:59 sfan5 sheet of paper*
21:59 Jordach when i said 8.0MB/s, i didnt move the decimal forward
21:59 sfan5 PilzAdam: nice ;)
21:59 PilzAdam seems like german internet sucks
21:59 sdzen http://www.speedtest.net/result/2883085288.png
21:59 sdzen smack
21:59 PilzAdam "D-" its not an F \o/
21:59 sfan5 Jordach: there is a difference between MB and Mb
22:00 Jordach fuck yeah: 17*C over here
22:00 Jordach 16*
22:00 jin_xi how much is that in candies?
22:00 sfan5 somehow my dl speed is broken
22:00 PilzAdam you mean °C ?
22:00 nalkri s
22:00 Jordach yus
22:01 Jordach let's have a troll day where we do 1337 5p34k
22:01 sfan5 GODDAMNIT WHY IS MY INTERNET SO SLOW
22:02 kaeza because crevis DDoS
22:02 Jordach fun fact: my tower cant handle the 80 MB/s; it caps to 50 as my hardware cant take it
22:02 PilzAdam sfan5, the plan: 1) host a speedtest server for speedtest.net 2) everyone will get slower and the average speed decreases a lot 3) .... 4) PROFIT!
22:02 Jordach (the adapter is 100MB/s)
22:02 Jordach PilzAdam, /n next time
22:02 * sdzen smashes jordach's tower
22:03 PilzAdam Jordach, dont you need \n\r ?
22:03 * Jordach grabs sdzen by the throat
22:03 Jordach your move
22:03 sfan5 PilzAdam: you need \r\n
22:03 * NekoGloop chops Jordach in half
22:03 Exio4 sfan5: i don't even have one mbit/s of download
22:03 * Jordach regenerates
22:03 sfan5 Exio4: nice
22:03 Exio4 http://www.speedtest.net/result/2568476190.png omg
22:03 sfan5 NekoGloop: http://ix.io/74X
22:04 Exio4 is that number legit?
22:04 Exio4 omg
22:04 Jordach yus
22:04 PilzAdam Exio4, you are slower than 102% of the rest of the world
22:04 Exio4 yeah
22:04 Jordach iirc, that was on my iPad2
22:04 Jordach if i tried a MT server; i'd fry the router from traffic
22:05 Jordach (IT DID nearly happen when i hosted City Build 1)
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22:05 PilzAdam sfan5, I probably switch ISP, Kabel Deutschland sucks
22:06 Jordach PilzAdam, you dont pay the bills
22:06 sfan5 PilzAdam, I probably switch ISP, Deutsche Telekom sucks
22:06 Jordach TIL i can pay taxes; but im not forced to
22:06 Jordach BLARG
22:07 sfan5 GRALB?
22:07 Jordach why does Taoki[laptop]|aw's client NOT have CTCP TIME
22:07 Jordach -Taoki[laptop]|aw- TIME Tue Aug 6 01:07:18 2013
22:07 Jordach there it is
22:07 * Jordach forgot i had a query open
22:07 Evergreen mine is apparently 10.1 mb/s for downloading
22:07 VanessaE hi all
22:07 sfan5 hi VanessaE
22:08 Evergreen Hi VanessaE
22:08 Jordach Faster Internet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBQx6fk0VTY
22:08 Evergreen Oh wow, I love troll physics
22:08 Evergreen x)
22:09 Evergreen I actually saw that already
22:09 Evergreen That's right kids, painting racing stripes on your computer will make it faster!
22:10 sfan5 Evergreen: does that work with a laptop?
22:10 sdzen my tower runs on ceilling cat
22:10 Evergreen I suppose the spoiler would..
22:10 sfan5 ceilililililililing cat?
22:11 sfan5 oh..
22:11 sfan5 its time to sleep
22:11 sfan5 good night
22:11 PilzAdam sfan5, have nice dreams of crevis
22:12 Evergreen OH and jordach, I still don't like the lips
22:12 Evergreen on you model
22:12 Evergreen Everything else is great
22:12 sdzen I posted a link to crevis on the facebook page of a bunch of nutjobs who want to overthrow the government, hopefully they do something
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22:15 Jordach does anyone else make a typo of RealBadAngel to RealBadAngle
22:15 RealBadAngel hi
22:16 RealBadAngel i saw it a few times already
22:16 RealBadAngel quite annoying one ;)
22:16 Jordach RealBadAngel, enjoy your alternate nick
22:16 * Exio4 slaps RealBadAngel with shaders
22:16 sdzen that typo is, *puts on shades* real bad
22:17 Jordach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHhrZgojY1Q
22:17 RealBadAngel exio4, say thx to ShadowNinja, im fighting technic rewrite atm
22:18 kaeza someone also called himself FakeGoodDemon or something like that
22:18 kaeza I think it was you-know-who trolling :P
22:18 RealBadAngel hmmm used realgooddevil nick for fun ;)
22:19 sdzen jordach listen to it with this in the background https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPR5v3_tPCs
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22:29 lordcirth RealBadAngel, what are technic frames supposed to do?
22:30 * VanessaE pokes RealBadAngel :)
22:30 VanessaE lordcirth: they're used to move large structures around at the command of mesecons signals
22:31 lordcirth VanessaE, like you build a frame around an object, then it will move the whole object?
22:31 VanessaE something similar
22:31 VanessaE the object must rest on or against the frame
22:31 NekoGloop You build it with the frames in physical contact with what you want to move
22:31 VanessaE the "motor" objects are what actually move the frames around
22:32 lordcirth Cool.  So if there were an automatic drill block, you could make a stripminer like in mc's mods?
22:32 VanessaE so a mesecons signal tells a motor to activate, it moves the frames it is in contact with, which moves all other frames that are in the same structure, and those move your objects around
22:32 VanessaE precisely
22:32 sdzen "Proller >> Minetest Dev.
22:32 sdzen sfan5 >> Minetest Dev.
22:32 sdzen kahlr >> Minetest Dev.
22:32 sdzen proller >> Mod Helper"
22:33 sdzen gotta love typos
22:33 sdzen was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
22:33 Exio4 wut
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22:33 lordcirth You could make some pretty epic-sized doors and such too
22:33 sdzen who invited the bot?
22:35 Exio4 sdzen: what typos?
22:36 sdzen kahrl, :)
22:36 Exio4 oh
22:36 Exio4 rl lr
22:39 kahrl Jede strikt diagonaldominante Matrix Kah laesst sich in Kah=LR zerlegen mit L untere, R obere Dreiecksmatrix.
22:41 sdzen how enlightening kahrl
22:41 sdzen :)
22:43 Exio4 wat kahrl
22:43 PilzAdam Reelle, symmetrische, schwach diagonaldominante Matrizen mit nichtnegativen Diagonaleinträgen sind positiv semidefinit.
22:44 PilzAdam dont even try google translator on that
22:46 jin_xi Real, symmetric, weakly diagonally dominant matrices with non-negative diagonal entries are positive semidefinite.
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22:46 PilzAdam jin_xi translator works, though
22:46 GNADev|zRokh2 hi, i have a question about minetestbot.....
22:46 sdzen it wasn't that hard pilzadam :)
22:46 GNADev|zRokh2 first of all, who's the creator, sfan5?
22:46 PilzAdam GNADev|zRokh2, arent you banned?
22:46 jin_xi lol
22:46 GNADev|zRokh2 ugh, plz no....
22:47 jin_xi dont say yes no
22:47 GNADev|zRokh2 im working on a server
22:47 PilzAdam GNADev|zRokh2, I ask you politely to leave now
22:47 Exio4 you are evading a ban
22:47 GNADev|zRokh2 please PilzAdam...
22:47 sdzen I think it is time to act like angry gods and fuck him up
22:47 PilzAdam apparently Jordach messed up the ban
22:48 GNADev|zRokh2 have mercy on me, oh please
22:48 sdzen and yes sfan5 did make minetestbot IIRC
22:48 jin_xi PilzAdam: that was google translator btw
22:48 sdzen bad jin!
22:48 sdzen I figured it out without it!
22:48 GNADev|zRokh2 does mtbot have !up?
22:48 sdzen and I speak french!
22:49 sdzen why don't you PM it and find out
22:49 GNADev|zRokh2 idk, is he on (i mean actually watching)
22:49 * sdzen shoves GNADev|zRokh2 aside
22:49 GNADev|zRokh2 Ich bin beschäftigt
22:49 GNADev|zRokh2 PilzAdam, please translate
22:51 sdzen do /msg MinetestBot !up IP PORT
22:52 GNADev|zRokh2 is it possible to ask minetestbot if a server is up vie PHP?
22:53 babyface1031 ? in farming_plus do you find seeds by hitting dirt with ahoe and digging jungle grass
22:53 PilzAdam babyface1031, no
22:54 sdzen grass
22:54 sdzen si?
22:54 babyface1031 so just hitting grass with a hoe
22:54 PilzAdam there is no valid way to get seeds from farming_plus currently
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22:54 babyface1031 oh ok that is why i couldnt get any
22:54 hasufell http://packages.gentoo.org/package/games-action/minetest
22:55 PilzAdam hasufell, the homepage is minetest.net
22:55 GNADev|zRokh2 You know who's cute? Hitler .-.
22:56 PilzAdam !op
22:56 GNADev|zRokh2 was kicked by PilzAdam: GNADev|zRokh2
22:57 kaeza stupid
22:57 pitriss PilzAdam: Nice shot:)
22:57 sdzen GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAALL!
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22:58 * kaeza does /give sdzen soccer:ball
22:59 PilzAdam hasufell, should I add that to minetest.net/downloads ?
22:59 hasufell PilzAdam: you could
23:00 PilzAdam hasufell, done
23:00 hasufell PilzAdam: thanks
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23:03 Exio4 PilzAdam: did you add gentoo to "Other distros"?
23:03 Exio4 seriously? ;)
23:05 PilzAdam Exio4, its only number 29 of a random list
23:05 hasufell PilzAdam: although it puzzles me how a distro with over 240 developers is a "less common" one, but I'm not going to argue about your website structure ;)
23:06 Exio4 archlinux is way "less common" than gentoo
23:06 sdzen who the heck uses puppy?
23:06 Exio4 that 'too'
23:06 Exio4 puppy & archlinux, but gentoo?
23:06 sdzen lets just put slackware up their too
23:06 sdzen :)
23:06 sdzen there*
23:07 PilzAdam its based on pure random
23:07 sdzen are you a robot pilzadam?
23:07 sdzen otherwise you are not allowed to be random
23:07 * sdzen is waiting for a firmware update
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23:23 * Kacey peeks in
23:29 VanessaE https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104062#p104062
23:29 VanessaE yay :)
23:35 Jordach VanessaE, does default:leaves look way better now
23:35 VanessaE yes
23:35 VanessaE I used a variation of your idea
23:36 Jordach what the fuck
23:36 Jordach 40fps with HDX 256 on OpenGL 2.1
23:36 VanessaE what's wrong with that?
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23:37 Jordach and here comes the obnoxious time wasted because of pre-load itmes
23:37 Jordach (as in, it's disabled)
23:39 Jordach VanessaE, for some reason mip maps + antisotropic + billinear + trillinear - give me FPS boosts
23:39 VanessaE they should.
23:39 Jordach i'm actually going faster with something that should slow you down
23:40 VanessaE mipmap+aniso has the side effect of making the card read less data for far away objects, which of course is most of what's on screen
23:40 VanessaE obviously the tradeoff is higher vram usage
23:42 Exio4 you say that like the vram we had in our GPUs today was 2mb
23:42 VanessaE heh
23:42 VanessaE well if you've got 500 MB of textures before mipmap+aniso, you're gonna be using 2000 MB of VRAM with it. :-)
23:42 sokomine hmm...hope this spider crawling in front of me will do its job...there are gnats to catch...
23:43 Jordach 256x is using 500mb of ram
23:43 Exio4 ram != vram
23:43 sokomine (for some reasons, spiders seem to love monitors)
23:43 Jordach sokomine, it's warm there
23:43 VanessaE Jordach: try turning on preload item visuals and go to my server.  watch RAM usage jump to 2.5GB :-)
23:43 sokomine ram on the graphics card or ram on the machine?
23:43 sokomine the whole room is warm :-( the spider ought to be happy
23:44 VanessaE sokomine: system RAM
23:45 VanessaE I dunno what MT's real usage of VRAM is, not sure how to monitor that
23:45 hacker i can use nvidia-smi
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23:47 Exio4 :( i don't like having the press enabled
23:47 Exio4 double click ftw
23:47 sokomine good. there's enough ram but not much ram for graphics
23:51 Exio4 max_lag = 72.9631
23:51 Exio4 72 seconds!

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