Time Nick Message 00:00 Peacock blockman wrote that right? 00:00 hdastwb yup 00:00 Peacock do you get the same performance with kaza's firearms? 00:00 Peacock it uses a hud too 00:01 hdastwb I've never been on a server that uses that 00:01 hdastwb but the hud seemed to almost always be wrong when testing in singleplayer 00:04 Peacock i havent tried the hud yet since im going from 0.4.6 to 0.4.8 00:04 Peacock when paramat updates moonrealm 00:04 Peacock which is the fastest/least intensive protection mod? 00:05 Menche i would guess protector; all it does is check for protector blocks within a certain radius 00:05 Peacock and for large areas what would you recommend? 00:06 sokomine i'd vote for node_ownership. it may change if the list of protected areas gets longer 00:06 Peacock i wanna split the map up into countries 00:06 Menche node_ownership is the most flexible 00:06 sokomine protector is very fine if you want players to self-protect small buildings 00:06 Peacock id keep the shields for that 00:07 sokomine for the ones i've seen on your server (except the ugly little cobble huts you don't want), it would be almost useless 00:07 hdastwb (or muffin it and self-protect large swaths of land) 00:07 sokomine hm. all those mods you prefer keep people away :-( that's far from what i want on a server. no annoying other players == singleplayer :-) 00:08 Peacock shields can be handy during construction 00:09 Peacock you dont want ppl sticking their noses in til its done 00:09 sokomine so that the building does not fall appart? :-) 00:09 sokomine ah, ok, that's an argument 00:09 Peacock and protection doesn't necessarily stop people from using all the machines 00:10 sokomine no, it doesn't stop them from that 00:10 Peacock pipes/aeroponics and a few others i can't think of 00:10 hdastwb you really don't want people around when item_drop is installed; they tend to absorb anything that you mine 00:10 Peacock i disabled item drop :p 00:10 Peacock drove me nuts too 00:10 Peacock 1 day = crap all over the place 00:11 Peacock no wonder they had to fix clearobjects, amirite 00:11 sokomine hdastwb: hmm. maybe we ought to set those players up as cleaners for all those buggy duplicated items that clug up many servers 00:11 Menche what mod was providing the itemdrop? 00:11 Peacock builtin 00:12 Menche oh, you mean mining w/ a full inventory? 00:12 sokomine even without item drop, players will be messy and leave lots of items lying around. especially in creative 00:12 Peacock yeah i dont get that 00:13 Peacock the inv has a trash button 00:13 Peacock with a a damn trash can icon 00:13 Peacock its not like its in a language they dont understand 00:13 sokomine maybe it's the gathering/collecting attitude in "survival" mode 00:14 Peacock you undo this :https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/ef6b8bee07b9cefe7d463fabd199548d37ff2bee 00:14 Peacock to get rid of item drops on full inv 00:14 Menche what about having a temporary chest spawn when an item is dropped that collects the item, and any more items that drop within 2-3 nodes get added to it? 00:14 Menche the chest would disappear when emptied 00:14 hdastwb it seems like items disappear faster in Minecraft; maybe they assume that they'll go away sooner here as well… 00:16 Menche do items even disappear at all in Minetest? 00:16 Peacock hmm, figured a way to make protection faster: drop the Y dim 00:16 Peacock dont know but all those entities lag the hell out of my dualcore after a while 00:16 Peacock and this is sposed to work on old hardware :p 00:17 Menche at least having a timer that kills as dropped item after a set time may help 00:17 Menche *a 00:17 sokomine it lags on very fast machines the same as on slow ones (at least that fps drop due to too many items - like more than 1000...) 00:17 Menche when testing the zombies game, i noticed that excessive entities lagged the client (FPS) as well as the server 00:18 Peacock like i said, undo the pull i referenced and ittl be like before 00:18 Menche i had a usual FPS of about 40-50 that dropped to 1-2 00:18 hdastwb the technic version of item_drop does have an item destruction timer, as well as item removal with lava and (I think) water movement 00:18 Peacock no room in inv? too bad lol 00:18 sokomine maybe a /clearallobjaroundme might help? 00:19 Peacock item drop is good on paper, but not in practice (for me) 00:19 * sokomine nods to peacock and finds it rather annoying as well 00:20 hdastwb perhaps there's some way of optimizing entity transfer; it seems like they're the main cause of lag in many cases 00:20 Peacock i do know in 0.4.6 some entities disappear, don't know if that's still a problem 00:20 Peacock i log in and sentries are missing, and those are protected 00:21 sokomine true, that entity transfer is strange. it's slowly increasing over time - you have to spend some time in the area, so i persume it takes client/server a long time to transfer them. one player who just arrived may be perfectly fine, while one who's been in the area for some time can hardly act anymore due to 3 fps 00:21 Menche yeah, entities are unloaded when nobody's within active_block_range, and the server doesn't always reload them 00:21 Peacock that is a problem on my server, sentries suddenly appearing when its too late to run lol 00:22 sokomine the animals from mobf also need some time to pop up after entering one area 00:22 Menche that's not new; in 0.3 i had that disappearing entities problem 00:23 Peacock apart from guns the only entities i use is for terrain editor 00:24 Peacock thats not a problem since they have a 5-second timeout then theyre removed 00:27 Peacock node_ownership requires patching? 00:27 Peacock :/ 00:28 sokomine hm. wasn't that old? iirc the newest version doesn't? 00:28 Peacock i clicked the second link i thought it was latest 00:28 Peacock the way its worded anyways lol 00:32 Peacock gonna start some coffee, this could take a awhile lol 00:42 Mallot1 pentium44: are you going to come back? 00:42 Mallot1 you said u would brb 4 hours ago 00:54 Exio4 :( 00:59 sokomine oh yes. that would be practical. get a warm day in winter...or a cooler, rainier in summer 01:00 PilzAdam sokomine, wrong channel? 01:00 sokomine oh, yes, you're right 01:11 Mallot1 hello 01:12 Exio4 sokomine: we actually got a 27C day in winter here 01:12 Exio4 i'm k with it ;P 01:13 PilzAdam Exio4, here, a free ° 01:13 Mallot1 hello 01:13 Exio4 i don't have it on my actual keymap PilzAdam 01:14 Exio4 without compose key or composed keybinds like alt+altgr+mod4+f13+shift+r 01:15 PilzAdam its shift + ^ on qwertz 01:16 Exio4 qwerty us keymap ftw 01:16 Menche ^ itself requires a shift... 01:16 PilzAdam http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/German-T2-Keyboard-Prototype-May-2012.jpg 01:16 PilzAdam qwertz != qwerty 01:16 sokomine that was a black question mark on a white hexagonal field 01:17 Menche your irc client must not support UTF-8 01:17 sokomine hm. or this terminal doesn't. havn't checked 01:25 PilzAdam ShadowBot! 01:25 PilzAdam !op ShadowBot 01:26 Peacock if both bots have op, do they both have flood detection? 01:27 PilzAdam bye 01:27 Peacock lol @ exit msg 01:35 Mallot1 where can i learn more advanced lua modding 01:37 marktraceur Mallot1: Define advanced 01:37 Mallot1 i learned how to make basic bricks 01:38 Mallot1 the basic stuff 01:39 marktraceur Mallot1: Well, what else do you want to know? 01:41 Mallot1 how to make a new type of item 01:42 Mallot1 u know, like chests and furnaces and that kind of thing 01:42 Mallot1 things that do stuff 01:45 Kacey Mallot1, ask him ^ 01:45 Mallot1 ok 01:45 Mallot1 hey kacey u comin to the server? 01:47 Mallot1 RealBadAngel: where can i learn more advanced modding? i learned how to make new bricks, you know the basic stuff. But i want to start makking things that actually do somethng and have functionallity. Like furnaces and chests. 01:49 RealBadAngel Mallot1, read other mods 01:49 Mallot1 so, just read the lua of other mods? 01:50 RealBadAngel yup, and try to understand what they do 01:50 RealBadAngel best way to learn things 01:50 djGrothe How do I install texture packs? http://wiki.minetest.net/Texture_Packs did not work. 01:50 Mallot1 ok, anything else? 01:50 marktraceur Mallot1: Read the docs 01:50 Mallot1 ok djGrothe ill help 01:50 Mallot1 mark where r the docs? 01:51 Mallot1 djGrothe: which version? 01:51 Mallot1 of minetest are you on 01:51 marktraceur _are_ 01:51 RealBadAngel djGrothe, copy all the images into folders /textures/all 01:51 marktraceur It's a short enough bloody word already 01:51 djGrothe I don't know, the latest I think 01:52 marktraceur Mallot1: They're in doc/lua_api.txt 01:52 marktraceur Maybe somewhere else, like a wiki, I dunno, don't have links handy 01:52 djGrothe where is the minetest folder located? 01:52 kahrl !dev 01:52 MinetestBot Perhaps you meant "!devwik Zen"? 01:52 kahrl !devwik 01:52 MinetestBot Perhaps you meant "!devwik Zen"? 01:52 Mallot1 djGrothe: how did u install minetest? 01:52 Mallot1 the installer? 01:53 Mallot1 marktracer: in the minetest folder? 01:53 kahrl !devwik Zen 01:53 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/Zen 01:53 djGrothe no, with apt-get 01:53 Mallot1 oh 01:53 Mallot1 umm well id have linux 01:53 Mallot1 but tell me when u find the folder 01:54 djGrothe I don't know where the folder is!! there's 1000's of folders to search through 01:56 RealBadAngel check .minetest in ur home folder 01:57 djGrothe now what? 01:57 RealBadAngel navigate to /textures/all 01:58 djGrothe no such directory 01:58 kahrl djGrothe: do you have 0.3 or 0.4? 01:58 kahrl check at the top left of the minetest main menu 01:58 djGrothe 0.4.7 01:59 kahrl ok, create ~/.minetest/textures/all and put the textures there 02:00 djGrothe is that all? 02:00 RealBadAngel yes 02:00 djGrothe it didn't work 02:01 djGrothe nothing changed 02:01 hdastwb you'll have to completely restart the program 02:01 djGrothe I did 02:01 hdastwb are you're textures in a sub-folder of textures/all? 02:01 hdastwb *your 02:02 djGrothe yes 02:02 RealBadAngel they shouldnt be in a subfolder 02:02 hdastwb they should just all be in textures/all 02:03 * ShadowNinja has rebasing to do... 02:03 hdastwb alright, so are mv machines supposed to work faster than lv ones? 02:03 djGrothe still didn't work :( 02:04 hdastwb the alloy furnace does, the regular furnace does not, and the grinder is under discussion… 02:04 hdastwb how are your textures named? 02:06 djGrothe e.g. .../textures/all/assets/minecraft/textures/block/brick.png 02:06 hdastwb wait, is this a minetest texture pack? 02:07 VanessaE assets? minecraft? um 02:07 djGrothe I got it from minetest.net 02:07 VanessaE (also, hi all) 02:07 hdastwb hello 02:07 VanessaE djGrothe: that is not a valid path or filename for a minetest texture pack. 02:07 djGrothe Then why is it on minetest.net? 02:07 kahrl djGrothe: the sphax one? 02:08 VanessaE got a full URL for where you got it from? 02:08 djGrothe yes 02:08 VanessaE you probably downloaded the minecraft version (one was ported from the other) 02:09 ShadowNinja Yippe.... warning: squelched 120 whitespace errors warning: 125 lines add whitespace errors. 02:09 hdastwb minetest texture packs should just be a bunch of pictures in one folder 02:10 ShadowNinja hdastwb: They are. 02:10 hdastwb ShadowNinja: technic machines, or texture packs? 02:11 VanessaE djGrothe: just for future reference, unless the filenames start with "default_" or "bucket_" or some other mod name, they are not minetest textures 02:12 VanessaE though most of the time, you can just rename the file, since minecraft seems to have moved to a one-file-per-texture model like we use. 02:12 djGrothe k, thanks 02:16 Mallot1 DM infestation!!!! 02:16 Mallot1 Dungon masters!!!! 02:17 VanessaE djGrothe: official download for Minetest version of sphax: http://adf.ly/564553/stbdc-256-mt04 (related forum page is: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5427) 02:17 djGrothe just tried it and it work - thanks a lot. Another question: why, is the sky black at day, and white at night? 02:22 ShadowNinja hdastwb: Texture packs. 02:23 ShadowNinja What can I use to check whitespace errors? 02:24 kahrl git diff --color? 02:24 kahrl dunno 02:25 ShadowNinja kahrl: The diff is far too big for that. 02:27 kahrl ShadowNinja: git diff --check 02:30 ShadowNinja kahrl: Thanks. But "... new blank line at EOF." is bad style? 02:31 kahrl not really 02:31 hdastwb I always put those in; apparently some systems get gummed up if files don't end in a newline 02:32 hdastwb (at least the USACO testing machine enforces it) 02:33 kahrl hdastwb: I don't think that's what that message means, I think it means there are at least two newlines 02:33 kahrl there should always be at least one 02:34 ShadowNinja kahrl: No, there is only one. 02:35 hdastwb most of the coding guidelines go against what I consider to be sane programming, so just because I think it should remain doesn't count for much… 02:37 kahrl ShadowNinja: is there any whitespace on the last line? 02:40 ShadowNinja kahrl: No. 02:42 kahrl I'd ignore it then 02:43 ShadowNinja I wonder if there is a option to skip that check/ignore it... 02:43 kahrl man git-config 02:43 kahrl core.whitespace 02:46 Mallot1 sny SDL programmers here? 02:46 Mallot1 *any 02:49 marktraceur Mallot1: Try a channel that's on-topic 02:49 marktraceur I'd see if #sdl exists, for example 02:50 Mallot1 it does 02:50 Mallot1 i was just wondering 02:50 Mallot1 in general 03:14 kaeza greetings 03:15 VanessaE ey 03:15 VanessaE hey 03:15 kaeza hey V 03:16 kaeza how've you been? 03:16 VanessaE been okay 03:41 VanessaE zzz 04:02 djGrothe This is a dumb question, but how do I smelt things? I tried the directions at http://wiki.minetest.net/Smelting but it only said "furnace out of fuel" 04:03 Menche what did you put in the bottom slot? 04:03 djGrothe logs 04:04 VanessaE and in the top slot? 04:04 djGrothe sandstone 04:04 VanessaE sandstone doesn't cook 04:04 VanessaE try sand instead 04:05 djGrothe oh, now it works, thanks a lot 04:05 VanessaE smelting plain sand (or desert sand I think) creates glass. 04:05 Menche trying to smelt something that doesn't cook says "furnace is empty" for me 04:07 djGrothe you must have an older version 04:15 Menche yeah, in the latest git, when you put a valid fuel and something that doesn't cook in a furnace, it says "out of fuel" 04:16 Menche ...sometimes 04:17 Menche ah, when you put the fuel in *first*, it says "furnace is empty" 04:18 Menche when you put the invalid recipe in first, it says "out of fuel" even if you put a valid fuel in 04:19 Menche apparently it doesn't update to acknowledge that there's fuel when you have a bad recipe in the cooking slot 04:19 VanessaE bbl 04:23 djGrothe Is there a way to reset my position if I get lost? 04:24 kaeza nope 04:24 Menche on your own server? /teleport x,y,z 04:24 kaeza at least not in vanilla 04:24 kaeza or what Menche said 04:24 djGrothe if I know the x,y, and z, that is 04:25 kaeza I suggest installing the beds mod 04:25 Menche there's the sethome mod: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=741 04:25 kaeza they teleport it to the last bed used when you die 04:25 Menche it allows you to set a home location with /sethome, and teleport to it with /home 04:26 djGrothe but when you die, your position is reset, so there is no "self destruct" button? 09:47 Jordach erhmagerd, /me can build voxel worlds in blender 09:58 Jordach Calinou, i'm going to start the first blender minetest short 10:00 Jordach thexyz, THANK YOU! https://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=332 10:00 Jordach Calinou, ^ 10:01 Jordach we know you're mvm'ing 10:01 Jordach (Mann vs Machining) 10:01 Calinou :d 10:02 Calinou camping with sentry + dispenser 10:04 Jordach Calinou, hehe 10:05 Jordach hello blockment 10:05 Jordach -t 10:05 BlockMen hi Jordach 10:05 PenguinDad hi BlockMen 10:05 BlockMen *and PenguinDad 10:07 Jordach haha 10:17 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/OfsGog9.png 10:20 Jordach hello PilzAdam 10:20 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:20 Jordach PilzAdam, seen what i'm upto> 10:20 PilzAdam hm? 10:21 Jordach i'm making minetest shorts 10:21 Jordach (blendered) 10:21 Jordach i'm also building a IK Sam II 10:23 BlockMen Jordach, nice. what is it thought for? 10:23 Jordach BlockMen, i'm currently working on Meet Sam II 10:24 BlockMen cool 10:27 Jordach BlockMen, it's already bigger than the blender grid :O http://i.imgur.com/dStFF4D.png 10:28 PilzAdam cant you work on importing a minetest schematic into blender? 10:29 Jordach PilzAdam, i always build by hand 10:29 Jordach nor will it import the textures as i want them 10:29 Calinou >blender grid >big 10:30 Jordach i see ShadowNinja is back 10:31 PilzAdam lol https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102299#p102299 "Take a look at " 10:31 PilzAdam chances are high that the correct place is in there 10:32 Jordach PilzAdam, if that was in a code tag, i'd end up pointing him the right lines with github's file reader 10:32 Jordach (eg, game.cpp in full) 10:35 BlockMen Jordach, looks like it will be even bigger 10:36 Jordach i might end up in doing this in bits 10:40 Jordach 5016 trianges rendered 10:42 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/aR2fTs0.png 10:42 Jordach funfact, one of the cubes top surface is a white texture, go find it 10:43 FreeFull Cloud? 10:43 FreeFull I don't see any cubes with a white texture in that screenshot, if that's what you meant 10:44 FreeFull But cloud blocks are white 11:25 PenguinDad Mesecon Microcontroller sucks. 11:26 Calinou no u 11:27 PenguinDad Because the microcontroller has destroyed my world. :') 11:28 PenguinDad * :'( 11:29 Exio4 PilzAdam: look at the http://github.com/minetest/minetest/ 11:29 Exio4 the same thing 11:34 sfan5 PenguinDad: destroyed = ? 11:37 PenguinDad sfan5 I mean everytime I try use the microcontroller. I get this error http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5918068/ 11:39 sfan5 PenguinDad: do you have the latest mesecons version? 11:40 PenguinDad Yes and latest minetest. 11:41 sfan5 i'll take a look at it 11:43 sfan5 PenguinDad: are you sure that you have the latest(I mean git-latest) version of mesecons? 11:44 PenguinDad Yes 11:44 sfan5 because https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/blob/master/mesecons_microcontroller/init.lua#L126 contains no reference to a field named 'code' 11:46 PenguinDad weird 11:46 sfan5 just download the latest mesecons and unpack it 11:48 PenguinDad I still get the bug but I found out the bug only comes when you use the Flipflops 11:51 BlockMen wich file i choose for "VORBIS_LIBRARY" ? 11:51 BlockMen *(cmake) 11:53 sfan5 BlockMen: do you mean cross-compiling for win32? 11:54 BlockMen no, compiling under win32 (with vs) 11:54 sfan5 you can use the vorbis libraries my build script downloads 11:55 BlockMen can u send me link again? 13:28 Calinou hi john_minetest 13:28 nalkri Excluded twice :( 13:29 Exio4 \o john_minetest 13:29 Calinou ponies are never excluded 13:29 nalkri I'm not a pony 13:29 Calinou Exio4: (\ 13:29 Exio4 \o/ 13:29 MinetestBot john_minetest: you didn't include me 13:29 PilzAdam Calinou, nice forum signature 13:29 Calinou it's not new 13:30 PilzAdam not new things can be nice too 13:30 PilzAdam (in contrast to what every big company says) 13:30 Calinou true 13:30 Calinou or GNOME :P 13:31 sfan5 #include 13:31 Exio4 remove sfan5; 13:31 Calinou MOV PilzAdam TRASH; 13:31 PilzAdam Calinou, why do you move the trash into PilzAdam? 13:32 sfan5 memset(Exio4, sizeof(Exio4), 0); 13:32 Calinou heh 13:32 sfan5 john_minetest: #include 13:32 sfan5 (will also include sfan5.h) 13:32 Calinou drugs.add_drug("libboost") 13:32 Exio4 i'm not a pointer :( 13:32 Calinou ^ educational drugs mod 13:33 Exio4 john_minetest: won't do anything 13:33 Exio4 mv MinetestBot /dev/null would replace /dev/null with MinetestBot too :P 13:33 sfan5 Exio4: oh sorry 13:33 sfan5 memset(&Exio4, sizeof(Exio4), 0); 13:33 Exio4 D: 13:33 Exio4 john_minetest: iDrugs 13:33 Exio4 apple(tm) 13:33 Calinou â„¢ 13:34 Exio4 lol 13:35 Exio4 john_minetest: as you are near, take a flight to argentina! :P 13:35 sfan5 !uname -a 13:35 Calinou why not fly to ponyville while you're at it :> 13:35 MinetestBot sfan5: Toaster MinetestBot 01 avr32 13:38 Calinou bye 13:38 Exio4 sfan5: seems legit 13:39 Calinou new signature get! 13:40 PilzAdam Calinou, not funny 13:44 PilzAdam WTF https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102331#p102331 13:45 Calinou PilzAdam: your opinion :p 13:45 Calinou lol 13:51 PilzAdam lol http://www.crevis.net/about.html 13:51 PilzAdam 8 months to install heaven TP and mobf? 13:52 Exio4 i think they are still learning lua and C++ 13:52 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Dont announce server in singleplayer e65d8ad655 2013-07-27T06:51:34-07:00 http://git.io/fI67AA 13:54 PilzAdam note that it would be illegal to host a site like this in germany 13:55 PenguinDad What would be illegal? 13:57 nalkri The use of the word "defaulty" hopefully 14:01 sfan5 Calinou: "Spreading viruses (?)" you sure? 14:02 Calinou didn't try, of course 14:02 Calinou but this is quite obvious 14:02 sfan5 I'm going to try it 14:03 Calinou do that in a VM 14:03 Calinou and virus scan it 14:03 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102338#p102338 14:03 sfan5 Calinou: http://www.crevis.net/news.html 14:03 sfan5 What is going to happen: 14:03 sfan5 [...] 14:04 sfan5 Multiplayer (possible) 14:04 sfan5 ^ wat? 14:04 Calinou lol "peace of shit" 14:04 sfan5 Calinou: http://www.crevis.net/uploads/1/6/6/4/16642554/6119849_orig.png 14:05 Calinou lol splash 14:05 nalkri I do like pie 14:05 nalkri Maybe that game is for me 14:06 sfan5 they made some bad game and realized it was bad, then they used the minetest engine renamed it to crevis added some mods 14:06 sfan5 s/crevis/crevis and/ 14:06 Calinou PilzAdam: BTW you _are_ allowed to release it as a standalone game. and I think you need to release the source code too 14:06 Calinou but it's discouraged 14:06 thexyz crevis crevis crevis 14:07 Calinou sfan5: should we unban him? 14:07 sfan5 Calinou: do that 14:07 sfan5 its not like we can't ban him again 14:07 PilzAdam send him a PM with a link to the topic 14:07 sfan5 PilzAdam: umm 14:07 Calinou do I retore the topic, too? 14:08 Calinou restore* 14:08 PilzAdam Calinou, no 14:08 Calinou ok 14:08 sfan5 if we move a topic to trash the id stays the same 14:08 sfan5 -> link stays 14:08 Calinou but he can't read it 14:08 sfan5 but people who !(moderator || admin) can't acces it 14:08 sfan5 *access 14:09 PilzAdam I mean a link to my topic https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6717 14:09 thexyz it's just minetest 14:09 Calinou it's "piece" and not "peace" :P 14:10 PilzAdam they didnt even rename minetest_game 14:10 PilzAdam they just changed the name in game.conf 14:11 thexyz `md5sum crevis.exe` is b1b09c971980032e8304f2b5b299a06d 14:11 PenguinDad what are you talking about? 14:11 PilzAdam PenguinDad, read the logs 14:11 thexyz PilzAdam: > We must also give credit to Minetest-c55. We used their source. Thank you to Minetest! Saved us alot of work 14:12 PilzAdam thexyz, but its somewhere hidden in the "about" tab 14:12 Calinou heh, "alot" 14:12 bas080 Download links are down https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2747 14:12 Calinou saving animals :') 14:12 bas080 PilzAdam, it is your mod 14:13 thexyz well 14:13 PenguinDad but omploader isn't by PilzAdam. 14:13 thexyz some schoolers just repackaged minetest and created a site @ weebly 14:13 bas080 PenguinDad, that is true 14:13 thexyz i don't get why is PA so butthurt about it 14:14 PilzAdam thexyz, I dont like people using the Minetest engine like this 14:14 PilzAdam they should say that its a game that runs on the Minetest engine 14:15 thexyz oh shit 14:15 thexyz we're going into this gnu/linux thing 14:15 thexyz when did this happen 14:15 Exio4 gonna try it in a VM 14:15 * Exio4 disables networking and makes a snapshot 14:16 Calinou disable sound too 14:16 sfan5 thexyz: could you please put the crevis download file somewhere that isn't mediafire 14:16 thexyz meh, that's just minetest 14:16 thexyz i tried it in wine 14:16 sfan5 Can't download it.. 14:16 Calinou is the source available? does the LGPL require releasing engine source? 14:16 thexyz I'm sure they just downloaded binary build 14:17 PilzAdam Calinou, you only need to provide the source if its modified 14:17 Calinou the menu looks different according to sfan5, no? 14:17 PilzAdam Calinou, no, it doesnt 14:17 thexyz yeah, md5 is the same as official 0.4.7 build 14:17 Exio4 sfan5, http://exio4.com.ar/private/crevis2.zip 14:18 PilzAdam standard 0.4.7 menu with a different header texture 14:18 PilzAdam thexyz, ok, then they at least didnt violate the LGPL 14:18 thexyz and i don't get why did you move the topic to trash 14:18 sfan5 Calinou: I think thats the "old" version they coded themselves 14:18 thexyz and then created your own 14:19 thexyz seriously, why'd you do that? 14:19 PilzAdam sfan5, they probably made the menu, then "umm.. what to do now?!?", "oh, there is Minetest, lets use that one" 14:19 sfan5 Exio4: thanks 14:19 thexyz just to insult people? 14:20 sfan5 PilzAdam: yeah 14:20 Calinou PilzAdam: don't call it a piece of shit 14:26 thexyz someone should move one of those topics back https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=16 14:27 thexyz there's only one right choice 14:28 kahrl PilzAdam: I'm not a lawyer, but I think you have to provide LGPL source code you use even if you didn't modify it 14:29 kahrl or at least offer to provide it 14:29 PenguinDad at least a link to minetests github repository 14:32 PenguinDad they have to provide the LGPL source code. 14:33 PenguinDad because the user must be free to link and change the LGPL part. 14:52 Exio4 http://pastebin.centos.org/3490/ 14:52 PilzAdam fuck 14:52 Exio4 :D 14:52 PilzAdam Exio4, you got me :-/ 14:53 PenguinDad o_O 14:55 PenguinDad what has some text to do with PilzAdam? 14:55 sfan5 PenguinDad: its related to PilzAdam because MLP 14:55 Exio4 PenguinDad: check the link 14:55 Exio4 you'll see 14:56 Exio4 sfan5: nah 14:56 Exio4 :> 14:56 sfan5 !title 14:56 ShadowBot sfan5: title [--no-filter] 14:56 MinetestBot sfan5: #3490 • CentOS Pastebin 14:56 sfan5 ShadowBot: stfu 14:56 ShadowBot sfan5: The operation succeeded. 14:59 PenguinDad I've checked out the link but it's only a song O_o 15:13 Jordach !voice Exio4 because i got promoted -- everyone in irc gets bonuses 15:13 Jordach !voice Exio4 15:13 Jordach oops 15:14 * Jordach forgets lappy does not nickserv me in 15:14 Jordach !voice Exio4 15:14 Jordach :3 15:14 PilzAdam Jordach, can you please stop playing arround? 15:15 * Calinou brohooves PilzAdam in their last statement 15:15 Jordach PilzAdam, can you stop being a dicxk 15:15 Jordach dick* 15:15 Jordach your more n 15:15 Jordach negative than a battery terminal* 15:15 sfan5 MinetestBot: meow 15:16 PenguinDad Can somebody tell what this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Little_Pony have to do with this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Gonna_Give_You_Up 15:16 Calinou PenguinDad: never gonna let you pony, never gonna pony you down, never gonna pony you up~ 15:16 PenguinDad makes no sense 15:17 PilzAdam PenguinDad, are you new to the internet? 15:17 PenguinDad No 15:20 Jordach wait what 15:20 * Jordach is going ma 15:20 Jordach d* 15:20 Jordach why is cornernote in the channel 15:21 Calinou our local pony massacrer 15:21 PilzAdam Jordach, he told me in PM that he works on skyblock 2 15:21 Jordach ah 15:22 Jordach why are all the old people back 15:22 Jordach it's like 0.4.3 again 15:22 Calinou to discuss about irrelevant stuff 15:22 Jordach bbl :D 15:30 * NekoGloop curls up on the channel couch 15:31 nalkri Are you a cat-esque jelly creature? 15:31 NekoGloop affirmative 15:31 nalkri That's pretty awesome 15:32 NekoGloop too* 15:34 Peacock why are all the old people back 15:34 Peacock Geezercon 0.4.3 :P 15:45 Peacock looks easy: http://www.skyscrapernews.com/images/pics/2631BeirutTowerPromisesModernHangingGardens_pic1.jpg 15:52 Peacock what is trans_func? 16:14 * NekoGloop curls up in Jordach's lap 16:14 Peacock how creepy :P 16:17 NekoGloop meow.. 16:18 Peacock sorry, my cat ate all the cat treats :( 16:19 Peacock my face is unusually dry though, wouldn't be surprised if she tried to wake me this morning 16:19 Peacock gotta love that sandpaper tongue - all the varnish is nearly gone from my fav chair 16:25 RealBadAngel i think i got parallax oclussion workin properly at last 16:26 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/NGt7ugV.jpg 16:26 Peacock looks pretty good 16:26 Peacock what rez texture? 16:26 nalkri Is that rendered in Minetest? 16:26 Peacock 64? 16:26 RealBadAngel this is PO without bumpmapping 16:26 RealBadAngel 128x texture 16:26 Peacock got any screens for 32 & 64? 16:27 RealBadAngel no point for such effects to use anythin lower than 128x 16:27 RealBadAngel even then filtering have to be enabled 16:27 RealBadAngel those are hires effects 16:27 Peacock oh, so id be better off disabling in config lol cant handle 128 with all my nodes lol 16:28 RealBadAngel i made once bumpmapped 32x texture pack 16:28 RealBadAngel but without height maps 16:29 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/D7lWBNL.jpg 16:29 Peacock eekk, i see what you mean 16:29 RealBadAngel this is 32x with bumpmapping 16:29 Peacock looks better with 128 16:30 RealBadAngel those effects to look nice need details 16:30 Peacock yeah otherwise small textures = acid trip lol 16:31 RealBadAngel bumpmapping looks pretty nice with VanessaE 512x textures 16:31 Peacock poop, people timeout with my gamepack @ 3.8mb 16:31 Peacock 512 would kill it lol 16:33 Mallot1 pooppooopoppppoooop 16:34 Peacock if you say so 16:34 * Peacock slowly backs away 16:34 Peacock :p 16:35 Mallot1 lol 16:35 * Peacock locks the door and sets fire to the channel 16:35 Peacock :p 16:35 Peacock for the insurance 16:36 * MasterBot pets Jordach 16:36 Peacock why is everyone feeling up jordach? lol 16:38 Peacock i wish Masterbot would chose another name tho, w/o glasses it looks like something else... :p 16:38 MasterBot Lol 16:38 Kacey Peacock, why would you try to burn us? 16:39 Kacey we have fire disabled lol 16:39 Peacock for the insurance :p 16:39 MasterBot I need to change my nick aswell 16:39 MasterBot !unban markveidemanis !unban MarkTwain 16:39 Peacock lol they were banned? sweet 16:39 Peacock :P 16:40 Peacock i think one of them was like "pleeeeeease play my server!" over and over 16:41 Peacock though even if i burn the channel, i bet its celeron who would collect the insurance :/ 16:41 Peacock ill have to have him wacked too, lemme see if the bulgarians have any spare umbrella tips 16:42 * MasterBot MasterBot MasterBot, here it comes!!! 16:42 * Kacey goes mining once again... 16:42 * Calinou goes testing once again... 16:43 * Peacock goes segfaulting once again... 16:44 * MasterBot goes MasterBotting once again 16:44 Peacock lol 16:44 Kacey hey Peacock, you forgot to lock the mine... ESCAPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 16:44 Peacock you can get arrested for that 16:44 Peacock (masterboting publicly) 16:44 Peacock dont need to, check the canary 16:45 Kacey ? 16:48 Peacock need help with transporters - do i add private transporters OR codded transporters (hidden networks) OR tree structure transporters? 16:49 Peacock like City/Area/House1 (tree) 16:50 ShadowNinja OR all of the above. 16:50 nalkri All of the above 16:50 * ShadowNinja 'd 16:50 Calinou PilzAdam: wolfgame? 16:50 PilzAdam not now 16:50 Peacock well codes and trees couldn't go together 16:50 nalkri Well, you can do trees with point-to-point 16:50 Peacock it would fuckup the table format 16:50 Peacock but i could do 1 and 2, or 1 and 3 16:50 nalkri Build nexuses(nexi?) 16:50 ShadowNinja Peacock: Seperate transporters. 16:51 Peacock point-to-point? 16:51 nalkri Paired ones 16:51 nalkri I probably misunderstood, sorry 16:51 Peacock well most of the existing mods already do p2p 16:52 Peacock right now all my pads are destinations and they all show up the formspec 16:52 Peacock no sorting, no privacy 16:52 nalkri Well, you can do any(undirected) graph with p2p and grouping 16:53 Peacock with tree, i could offer pad and branch locking? 16:53 Peacock though its not as easy as entering a code to access a hidden network :/ 16:53 Peacock with codes theres always the chance two people would chose the same one though :/ 16:54 Peacock and it wouldn't be hidden anymore 16:55 Peacock i do wanna build a nexus on the top floor of this building: http://s13.postimg.org/s1w6z9u3b/screenshot_403859316.jpg 16:57 Peacock i think probably tree + hidden/locked pads 16:59 MasterBot Hi 17:24 Mallot1 hi 17:50 RealBadAngel ok, heres parallax oclussion together with bumpmapping: 17:50 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/JBVf3AP.jpg 17:52 RealBadAngel hmmmm, how do you like it? ^^ 17:52 nalkri That's pretty 17:53 hmmmm great 17:53 nalkri Does it hammer the processors much? 17:53 Calinou >2013 >parallax occlusion 17:53 Calinou still nice 17:53 Calinou nalkri: GPU? sort of. CPU? no 17:53 nalkri OK 17:53 Calinou RealBadAngel: would it be possible to use tesselation or at least relief mapping? 17:54 RealBadAngel i will see 17:54 RealBadAngel i just solved tangent space problems 17:55 Calinou ah 17:55 RealBadAngel i also need good software to create good height maps 17:55 RealBadAngel makin them manually is pain in the ass 17:56 RealBadAngel but then only heightmap will be required, irrlicht is capable of generating normal maps out of heightmaps on the fly 17:56 Calinou ideally, you should always make them manually, like normal maps 17:57 RealBadAngel those bricks i made manually 17:57 RealBadAngel they look pretty nice imho 17:57 Calinou yeah 17:57 Calinou how did you do? 17:58 RealBadAngel took original texture, desaturate, invert and a few times sharpen it 17:59 Calinou ah, the height map 17:59 RealBadAngel then made slight (4x) normal map made with gimp 18:00 RealBadAngel and copied heightmap onto normal map alpha channel 18:00 RealBadAngel this way i can have both of them in single file 18:00 MasterBot Anyone have a copy of the minecraftlike player animations? 18:00 Calinou there are none 18:01 Calinou in minecraft, animations are hardcoded, just like the model 18:01 MasterBot https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3976 18:01 MasterBot !titl 18:01 MasterBot !title 18:01 MinetestBot MasterBot: MC-like player breathing animation (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums 18:01 Calinou this is just idle 18:21 Pksidf lol 18:29 pitriss Please can anybody advice me how i can force cocoa tree to grow?:) 18:32 MasterBot Feed it cocaine 18:35 sokomine do you have a sapling already? 18:36 sokomine old versions used to have a bug that did not let cocoa trees spawn. that's long fixed. remember that you have to plant the sapling on desert_sand - not dirt! 18:38 pitriss sokomine: Yes i have 2 saplings planted.. one just one block from water supply 18:39 pitriss ahh 18:39 pitriss thats issue.. desert sand needed. 18:39 pitriss TY 18:39 PilzAdam farming_plus? 18:40 pitriss PilzAdam: yes i think.. 18:40 pitriss on landrush server 18:41 marktraceur Drush over LAN? That sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. 18:50 Jordach has anyone noticed a disturbance in the forums? 18:51 PilzAdam c55 posted like 3 posts 18:51 Calinou drama going on? 18:51 Jordach i wasnt talking about posts Calinou 19:23 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Weather support 3aedfac968 2013-07-27T12:21:48-07:00 http://git.io/I1kCcA 19:24 Calinou fun fact: lots of wind and rain right now 19:24 Calinou and proller adds weather to MT :P 19:25 proller wind now not supported 19:25 Calinou hah 19:25 PenguinDad are there thunderstorms supported? 19:25 Jordach <3 thunder 19:26 PenguinDad me too 19:26 Calinou that's what PSU manufacturers said, Jordach 19:36 sokomine where, again, did the map end? at 30xxx ? 19:37 Calinou 30912 19:37 Calinou used to be 30976 before march 2012 19:37 Menche i *think* it's -30912 to +30927 19:37 Menche checking... 19:38 PenguinDad for me it's 30927 19:38 Calinou ah 19:38 Menche yeah, it's -30912 to +30927 19:39 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest_game: Melting and freezing 83133210cc 2013-07-27T12:37:54-07:00 http://git.io/DYuBjw 19:41 Menche i'm standing near the corner of the world and looking at a mountain, and nodes are flickering as i move the camera around 20:17 Jordach https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102417#p102417 im questioning this as a double post 20:29 Jordach there should be wool stairs and slabs 20:29 Jordach imho 20:29 * Jordach pokes VanessaE 20:30 Calinou this feature has been asked 5 time, 5595 times to go until Jordach creates Minetest rule 34. 20:30 Calinou times* 20:30 * Jordach slaps Calinou 20:30 Jordach no 20:30 Jordach Calinou, you are not redroid 20:31 Jordach Calinou, don't even post the output of ~family Jordach 20:33 Calinou heh 20:34 Jordach so hold on 20:35 Jordach they allow proller to add weather yet a pixel tweak / upgrade isnt merged wtf man 20:36 Calinou I do agree on sam II, he looks way more modern 20:36 Calinou open source shall advance, not end up in political advances. 20:36 Calinou erm political battles* 20:36 * Calinou hammers themself using powerjack 20:36 * Calinou is now 15% faster but 20% more vulnerable 21:03 NekoGloopMkII quick don't think about cats! 21:04 Calinou think about ponies! 21:05 * sokomine takes a kitten out of the storage and puts it on a pony 21:05 * Calinou puts kitten in freeze 21:05 Calinou freezer* 21:05 * sokomine notices that the storage is close to beeing depleted and needs to be refilled 21:05 * sokomine takes the kitten out and puts moskitoes into the freezer 21:12 thexyz Calinou: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102373#p102373 it does? 21:12 Calinou AFAIK, yes 21:12 Calinou I've frequently seen people trying to run minetest on old CPUs and failing 21:13 Menche what happens when you compile with -mno-sse ? 21:13 thexyz well you probably meant sse2 21:13 thexyz and I'm quite sure it can be run without sse2 21:13 Calinou I wasn't sure 21:14 thexyz Menche: try it 21:15 Menche would i have to use -mno-sse -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -mno-sse4 to disable all of sse? 21:16 thexyz i guess there's no point in the first one 21:16 Menche doesn't compile w/o sse 21:16 Menche /usr/include/bits/stdlib-float.h:26:1: error: SSE register return with SSE disabled 21:16 kaeza greetings 21:17 thexyz i doubt there are people who're willing to launch minetest on cpu without sse 21:17 Calinou hi kaeza 21:17 Calinou thexyz, tons of people try to play minetest on toasters :P 21:18 Menche what cpu doesn't have sse 21:18 Menche the oldest one i have is a pentium4 21:18 Jordach hey kaz 21:18 Calinou athlon 64s according to the forum topic 21:18 Calinou or was it athlon XP 21:19 Menche well, i do have access to a G4 powerpc mac 21:19 kaeza related: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102429#p102429 21:19 thexyz p3 does have it 21:19 thexyz AMD Athlon XP 2400+ does have sse 21:19 kaeza hey Calinou, Jordach 21:20 thexyz http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/K7/AMD-Athlon%20XP%202400+%20-%20AXDA2400DKV3C.html 21:20 Calinou SSE2 then? 21:20 Menche i removed -mno-sse, it's compiling now 21:21 thexyz we need visualstudio guru 21:21 Menche so -mno-sse2 -mno-sse3 -mno-sse4 21:21 thexyz i thought it compiles without sse2 by default 21:21 thexyz but apparently, it doesn't 21:24 Menche compiled and runs fine 21:24 Calinou is the performance different? 21:25 Menche don't really notice much difference 21:31 * Menche flinches whenever he sees BlockMen write the past tense of "dig" as "digged" 21:33 kaeza heh 21:35 thexyz it should be dugged, obviously 21:36 Menche it is clearly "diggen" 21:36 * PilzAdam flinches everytime someone writes BlockMan 21:36 Peacock BlockMen implies more than one 21:37 Peacock MPD 21:37 thexyz that's quite sad 21:39 Peacock multiple personality disorder? 21:40 Menche media player daemon? 21:41 Menche *music 21:41 thexyz Menche: almost, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative_identity_disorder 21:44 Peacock cant tell the diff between that and mpd lol 21:45 NakedFury I do. both have nothing to do with minetest 21:46 Peacock at least people are talking about something lol 21:46 Peacock channels' been pretty dead last couple of days 21:46 Menche wait, we're supposed to talk about minetest here? 21:47 Jordach this chanell should be called #minetest 21:47 Jordach ##minetest* 21:47 Peacock whats the diff? 21:47 Jordach ## on freenode is offtopic 21:47 Jordach # is on topic 21:48 nalkri ##channels aren't official 21:48 Menche isn't ## for temporary channels? 21:48 marktraceur No 21:48 Peacock i doubt they care that much 21:48 nalkri No it's for any channel that is not the official channel of a peer directed project 21:48 thexyz http://freenode.net/policy.shtml 21:48 thexyz please do research 21:48 nalkri So # 21:48 nalkri So ##English for instance 21:48 Peacock though if they wanna start banning people for being offtopic that should be entertaining at least 21:48 marktraceur Peacock: Indeed not - see #minecraft 21:48 Jordach so the GNU advocate suggests MC how funny and ironic 21:49 Peacock he didn't say that? 21:49 marktraceur Jordach: As an example of a channel that shouldn't exist in the single-# namespace. 21:49 marktraceur And I'm not a GNU advocate, I'm a free software advocate. Difference. 21:49 Menche thats not an official minecraft channel 21:49 Menche ? 21:49 Jordach gnu advocates free software 21:50 Jordach same differenc 21:50 Jordach e* 21:50 Peacock its all the same, they're all communists :P 21:50 Peacock j/k 21:50 marktraceur Jordach: And the NRA advocates for following the constitution, but I'm not an NRA advocate 21:50 Peacock im actually coming around to their POV 21:51 marktraceur Menche: Not the point - nalkri summed it up well, on-topic channels on Freenode should be about peer-directed projects 21:51 Peacock SWAT raids @ 4am for a small bag of pot, id want to be armed too if i lived there 21:51 PilzAdam http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/239/PilztestBiomes.png Biomes in Pilztest: "normal", Jungle, Forest, Desert and Snow 21:51 PilzAdam oh, and "Highlands" and "Snow Mountain" 21:51 Menche IMO deserts look better with they're own red-tinted sand / stone 21:52 Peacock thankfully it doesn't happen here lol 21:52 Menche oops, their 21:53 marktraceur Peacock: "First they came for the shoulder-mounted rocket lanunchers, but I didn't speak up, because I had sold mine at auction a few years back..." 21:53 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest 21:54 Peacock marktraceur http://www.cato.org/raidmap 21:54 Peacock sorry but your cops are nuts :p 21:55 Menche some college students went to a store and bought some bottled water, some plainclothes police officers mistook it for liquor and tried to arrest them 21:56 Menche they weren't in uniform so the students didn't know they were police and tried to run away 21:56 Peacock no shit, 21:56 Peacock no uniform, id defend myself too 21:56 Menche they brushed an officer with their car and got charged with assault as well 21:56 Peacock dont have much respect for secret police types 21:57 Peacock didn't fight the communists and nazis to put up with that crap 21:58 NakedFury underground mafia casinos agree with you 21:58 NakedFury and tried and all that stuff 21:58 marktraceur Peacock: I'm amazed that Oakland doesn't have any data points 21:58 Peacock whats the connection? 21:59 Peacock i didn't check out specific regions, i took an interest after reading about swat people shooting people's dogs when they bust down doors 22:01 Peacock gaping budget deficits and they have all this money to burn busting smalltime drug users lol 22:03 Jordach does anyone want a game of chess 22:03 Peacock minechess? 22:03 Jordach normal chess 22:03 Peacock node-sized chess game :D 22:03 Jordach mmm... 22:03 Jordach Peacock, it's in browser 22:03 Mallot1 hey guys :) 22:04 Peacock dunno if they have these giant chessboards in other cities 22:04 Mallot1 im on my brothers computer so i have to make this quick 22:04 Mallot1 where do you get minetest-classic? 22:06 Mallot1 Hello? 22:07 Menche you mean darkrose's minetest-classic? 22:08 Menche http://gitorious.org/minetest-classic/minetest-classic is the git repo 22:08 marktraceur Mallot1: Don't be impatient when you ask questions here, most people don't watch IRC every second 22:09 Menche there's windows builds at http://minetest-classic.com/download.html 22:10 Mallot1 lol marktraceur 22:10 Mallot1 thanks Menche 22:10 Menche hey, she added stairs/slabs to 0.3 22:10 Menche cool 22:10 marktraceur Mallot1: The fuck do you mean, lol 22:11 Mallot1 woah woah woah man 22:11 Peacock nodeboxes or just stairs/slabs? 22:11 Menche nodeboxes 22:11 Mallot1 ill ne more patient no need for the language 22:11 marktraceur Usually when someone says "lol marktraceur" it means they've dismissed what I've said 22:11 Mallot1 oh no no sorry 22:11 * Menche sees new junglewood, stoneblock, and stonebrick textures added 22:11 marktraceur Arright. 22:12 Mallot1 :) 22:12 Peacock classic looks nice for the speed but w/o mods i cant picture it being fun for super long 22:13 Menche i wonder if she's still maintaining compatibility with vanilla 0.3.3 22:13 Menche with all those new nodes 22:14 Peacock the old hardcoded nodes> 22:14 Peacock whats the deal with hardcoded weather? is jeija's weather mod broken? 22:16 Peacock ill take that as a yes until further notice lol 22:16 Menche hmm, the nodeboxe's wield textures are rendered funny 22:17 Menche *nodeboxes' 22:17 Menche and walking up stairs isn't smooth 22:17 Peacock well its hardly gonna have all the spit and polish that this version has, havent been testing the nodeboxes as long i imagine 22:17 Menche and wood stairs look like normal wood in the inv 22:18 Peacock inventorycube :p 22:18 Peacock probably renders inv faster, my inv on p4 has a 2 second delay lol 22:18 xiong Okay. First time out, fiddling with a mod: 'money', trying to mess with the shop. The way I figure, 'on_punch' should be called when I left-click the shop. But 'can_dig' should return false when the shop contains anything. 22:18 Mallot1 well thanks guys i got what i needed bye :) 22:19 xiong Um, how does the engine know I punched instead of attempting to dig? 22:19 Peacock punch is short 22:19 Peacock long punch = dig 22:19 xiong Um, also, for learning purposes, is there a simple action I can perform? Not sound. 22:20 xiong So on_punch .... action = stupid_simple ... 22:20 xiong Ideally, I guess, the node blinks a funny color. 22:21 hmmmm I assure you I have the BEST drugs. 22:21 Jordach SHADER DRUGS 22:21 Menche you want to make the node blink when you punch it? 22:21 xiong Okay, I'm sorry if I made that sound funny. 22:22 xiong A jack-in-the-box leaps out of the node shouting 'You punched me." 22:23 Menche define the jack-in-the-box node and place it with set_node to the position above the punched node? 22:23 xiong Okay, I'm just looking for something simple so I can tell when my on_punch function really has been called... and not an attempt to dig. 22:24 Menche just put minetest.chat_send_all("Something punched!") 22:24 xiong Agreeable, thanks. 22:24 * xiong fiddles 22:26 xiong Works, great. 22:26 Menche minetest-classic has glowglass now, too 22:27 xiong The goal (if curious) is to alter the money mod so that the shop displays its tuning form even when it is not empty. 22:27 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/mzwoONS.jpg 22:27 xiong The normal buy/sell screen comes up with a right-click; so punch is unused for a nonempty shop. However a nonempty shop cannot be dug up. 22:30 Jordach hey xiong 22:31 xiong Hey Jordach. 22:34 xiong Well, that sort of did it. I've got the tuning screen on_punch but it doesn't tune up. 22:34 * xiong fiddles 22:46 xiong Okay, another question. This caught my eye immediately and I still can't crack the puzzle. Why do you suppose the author put the tuning form under on_construct? Because it's not shown to the player then; it's shown on any right-click... until player fills it out correctly. Thereafter, right-clicks open the shop, displays its inventory and a form button or two for buy and/or sell. 22:47 xiong The form does *not* appear when the shop node is placed. 22:52 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/kBJhHnb.jpg 22:52 RealBadAngel another screenshot of parallax occlusion 22:52 PilzAdam looks nice 23:04 xiong That was quick. I have 90% of my goal. 23:04 xiong Does the formspec allow entry fields to be preloaded with values? 23:04 Jordach RealBadAngel, fake 23:04 Jordach you made some boxes in irrlicht 23:04 svuorela is there a 'waypoint' mod ? 23:05 Jordach and slapped Minetest 0.4.7. in the corner 23:05 Jordach i know it's legit 23:05 RealBadAngel Jordach: ? 23:08 xiong Ah, the lightbulb comes on. The formspec is merely defined on_construct; right-click *always* brings up any defined formspec/inventory. 23:14 Peacock draw_hotbar(): mainlist == NULL ?? 23:19 Jordach diemartin, wb 23:20 diemartin hai Jordach 23:20 diemartin what's up? 23:21 Jordach kaeza, not much 23:21 Jordach working on a minetest blender short 23:23 Jordach kaeza, have you heard 23:24 kaeza ? 23:24 Jordach that the bird is the word 23:24 Jordach also see pm in > 1 min 23:24 kaeza k 23:24 Jordach sent. 23:41 xiong Perfect! 23:44 xiong I'd probably appreciate anyone who gave it a test drive: 23:44 xiong https://github.com/Xiong/minetest-mod-money 23:44 xiong Wait, I already know I left something in wrong. 23:46 xiong ... and left something out.... 23:46 Jordach is this used on the wazuclan server 23:47 PilzAdam Jordach, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102457#p102457 23:47 Jordach PilzAdam, you're still a dick to newbs 23:48 PilzAdam but its not related to pull requests 23:48 Jordach PilzAdam, my point is, it's the automatic HARSHNESS to newbs 23:48 PilzAdam you should read the link in my signature to know towards what kind of noobs I am a dick 23:49 Jordach i've read that, but it's rather agressive 23:50 PilzAdam I simply get angry if people dont use their common human sense 23:50 Jordach PilzAdam, i ragequitted irc when the noobs rolled in 23:50 Jordach now i just minimise the window 23:50 PilzAdam if nobody tells them what they do wrong then they will never know 23:51 Jordach but doing so aggressively makes everyone feel grumpy at you 23:51 Jordach i prefer doing it without causing waves 23:52 Jordach i speak in english and not in Lua 23:53 Jordach i should create modding modules which explain what each function does 23:53 Jordach say creating a tool 23:53 Jordach or creating node groups 23:53 Jordach entities and such 23:53 PilzAdam Id rather suggest to actually work on the dev wiki 23:53 Kacey bbl 23:53 PilzAdam it seems that many people dont like lua-api.txt 23:54 NekoGloop seems? it sucks :3 23:54 PilzAdam but also nobody cares to update the dev wiki, which is quite paradox 23:54 PilzAdam paramat, are you the paramat from the forums? 23:54 Jordach PilzAdam, mod modules that explain basics is more powerful than a wiki as they can use the code and see results 23:55 Jordach PilzAdam, it is 23:55 PilzAdam then put the code into the wiki 23:55 Jordach checked his forum ip :3 23:55 PilzAdam you see his forum IP? 23:55 Jordach as a mod, yes 23:55 PilzAdam wooow 23:55 PilzAdam since when are you a moderator? 23:55 paramat PilzAdam, yes, hi :) 23:56 Jordach if someone comes from the web gateway, i'll run an ip check :P 23:56 PilzAdam paramat, hi! I love your mapgen stuff, its epic 23:56 * Jordach too 23:56 paramat Aw shucks, thanks :} 23:56 Jordach PilzAdam, out of respect, i have no beef with you, but can you merge Sam II 23:56 Jordach ...please? 23:57 PilzAdam will you create Sam III anytime soon? 23:57 Jordach 50 votes and it still says yes 23:57 Jordach strange, i cant even edit poills 23:57 Jordach polls* 23:57 paramat lua-api.txt is awesome 23:57 Jordach yes -- if you can understand it 23:58 Jordach paramat, i saw your lua mgv6 23:58 PilzAdam paramat, true, but apparently not everyone understands it 23:58 Jordach paramat, make a gamemode for your stuff man 23:58 Jordach lua mapgen, lua ringworld in it 23:58 Jordach etc 23:58 Jordach start on the ring world, expand to the planets 23:59 paramat Yeah i have been considering a game 23:59 * Jordach wants 23:59 PilzAdam the ability to understand lua-api.txt is propotional to the skill of using Ctrl+F 23:59 Jordach what if it isnt ctrl+f 23:59 PilzAdam funfact: I always read lua-api.txt in the browers 23:59 PilzAdam a pinned tab in FF