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01:05 sokomine underwater plant: http://mg.viewskew.com/u/sokomine/m/screenshot-324720001/
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01:10 PilzAdam sokomine, "Alle Rechte vorbehalten" why?
01:11 sokomine aeh, wo? wie?
01:11 PilzAdam when you upload something you can choose a license
01:11 sokomine ah, liscence. do you have a suggestion what i ought to put there?
01:11 PilzAdam CC0
01:12 PilzAdam so everyone is free to do anything with it
01:12 sokomine sure? and if i screenshot something where people hold other liscences?
01:12 PilzAdam what do you mean?
01:13 sokomine what if part of a mod is shown where the mod has other liscences for textures? might that be a problem?
01:14 PilzAdam I doubt it
01:15 sokomine i seriously doubt that's the case here (vanessas hdx-textures are usually pretty liberate), but i didn't check *all* liscences of the mods installed. someone might take part of a screenshot and use it elswhere...so i'm not sure if i'm really at liberation to make them cc0? (not that it seems very likely that anyone would be intrested in those screenshots execpt other players)
01:17 sokomine hm. the screenshots as such really ought to be no problem. checked them again and most are for my mods anyway
01:17 sokomine what do you think about the content? about that abuse of plantlike and the scaling factor?
01:18 PilzAdam lets say I have seen worse hacks ;-)
01:18 * sokomine looks innocent :-)
01:19 sokomine it only works if you place a light source near the place where the plant is actually placed :-)
01:20 PilzAdam there is a pretty easy way to get light underwater: just place a 1x1 stack from the bottom to the top of the water, then dig it down from the top to bottom, then the light will go through the water that fills the gap
01:21 PilzAdam Im going to sleep now; bye
01:22 sokomine it's not exactly the ocean floor i have to light...it's the node below. the setup is: water, ocean floor (dirt or something like that), flower, light source (light source can be anywhere next to the plant)
01:22 sokomine pretty quiet here today
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03:30 Mallot1 hello, can u guys do me a favor?
03:30 Mallot1 pleas
03:30 Mallot1 e
03:31 Pentium44 yes
03:31 Mallot1 ok,
03:31 Pentium44 do you need something?
03:32 Mallot1 yes
03:32 Pentium44 ok spill it! ;)
03:32 Pentium44 hehe
03:32 Mallot1 i need 10 things to do in minetest :)
03:32 Pentium44 ok
03:32 Pentium44 #1 Try my server
03:32 Pentium44 its Minetest-Classic
03:32 Pentium44 hehe
03:32 Pentium44 #2 Build a Ship
03:33 Mallot1 :D
03:33 Pentium44 #3 Build some pixel art on my server
03:33 Pentium44 #4 Do as many other things that you can
03:33 Pentium44 NO GREIVING :D
03:33 Mallot1 *GRIEFING
03:33 Mallot1 ;)
03:34 Pentium44 ohh
03:34 Pentium44 that F needs to be a V
03:34 Pentium44 plural :D
03:34 Mallot1 yah
03:34 Mallot1 :D
03:34 Mallot1 how did u make a server??
03:34 Pentium44 so you gonna join?
03:34 Pentium44 just compiled minetest and ran it
03:35 Pentium44 Mallot1, I hosted a server for you before
03:35 Mallot1 you did?
03:35 Pentium44 you may not remember me
03:35 Mallot1 are you UbuntuNerd?
03:35 Pentium44 im the M13!
03:35 Pentium44 yes
03:35 Pentium44 that do
03:35 Pentium44 to*
03:35 Mallot1 :D
03:35 Pentium44 but I do not like Ubuntu so Im now the PuppyNerd!
03:35 Mallot1 man, i couldnt get back on that server
03:35 Mallot1 :(
03:35 Pentium44 I like PuppyLinux
03:36 Pentium44 :(
03:36 Mallot1 :D cool
03:36 Pentium44 you can play on my new one
03:36 Mallot1 im on WIndows8 baby!
03:36 Mallot1 :D
03:36 Pentium44 its minetest-classic so it has new features
03:36 Pentium44 ewww
03:36 Pentium44 windows bad
03:36 Mallot1 lol
03:36 Mallot1 B)
03:37 Mallot1 anyway, is there a chance i could have my server up again? :D :D :D :D :D :D
03:38 Mallot1 hello?
03:39 Mallot1 Pentium44: ^^
03:39 Pentium44 um
03:39 Pentium44 not currently
03:39 * Kacey high-fives Mallot1 with live tiles!
03:39 Pentium44 I do not have the resources
03:39 Pentium44 Kacey!
03:39 Kacey M13!
03:39 Mallot1 :D
03:39 Mallot1 kacey what up bro B)
03:41 Pentium44 Kacey remembers!
03:41 Pentium44 whoop
03:42 Kacey i nearly fell over when i saw your name...
03:48 Mallot1 :D
03:48 Mallot1 ive seen u on here lately :D
03:49 * Kacey just accidentally smacked a sunburn
03:49 Kacey ow.
03:50 Pentium44 lol
03:50 Pentium44 bet you will not do that again
03:50 Kacey naw give me ~20 minutes or so and i will forget and do it again
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05:44 LazyJ Is there anyone here who is familiar with the code of Minetest that handles animated, flowing water?
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05:52 JesseH ok, I'm going to try minetest again finally
05:52 JesseH VanessaE, What was your server address?
05:54 kahrl JesseH: vanessae.mine.bz
05:55 JesseH ok thank you
05:55 kahrl LazyJ: just ask your question, maybe somebody will see it
05:55 JesseH port is default
05:55 JesseH ?
05:55 LazyJ Ok, thanks, kahrl.
05:56 kahrl JesseH: yeah
05:56 LazyJ Calinou may have an idea since it involves his texture pack.
05:56 Peacock should be morning over there soon
05:56 LazyJ The problem is spreading water not showing in the 2013_07_23 daily-build when using the Misa texture pack.
05:57 Peacock filenames are probably wrong
05:57 LazyJ I've tested with the default textures... spreading water works.
05:57 Peacock does it show as unknown
05:57 LazyJ Then I replaced Misa's water images with the default images... the problem persisted.
05:58 LazyJ So the default textures work only when Misa isn't used.
05:58 Peacock compared the filenames of water with the one that works then
05:59 kahrl LazyJ: are you sure it is a texture issue, and not just liquids randomly not spreading?
05:59 LazyJ I took 3 screenshots, one of each test
05:59 kahrl LazyJ: try "liquid_loop_max = 10000" in minetest.conf
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05:59 LazyJ I'm not sure where the issue is, but where I saw the change was at the base of a waterfall that I built a couple weeks ago.
06:00 RealBadAngel hello minetesters
06:00 RealBadAngel VanessaE,  are u here?
06:01 LazyJ That waterfall "spread" as it should Monday, but after I compiled 2013_07_23, the base of the waterfall is gone.
06:01 kahrl water spreading has been flaky for me since the default liquid_loop_max was changed from 10000 to 1000
06:01 LazyJ Howdy, RBA ;)
06:01 kahrl sometimes it spreads, sometimes it doesn't, it's quite random
06:01 LazyJ I noticed that the pixel size of Misa's water images are 4 times or more greater than the default.
06:02 kahrl LazyJ: can you swim in the base of the waterfall that is not shown?
06:02 RealBadAngel LazyJ, try then hdx, haven or sphax water textures
06:02 LazyJ Hehe... yeah, I'm all too acquainted with tall waterfalls spreading in mid-air.
06:02 LazyJ kahrl, yep. the "water" is there at the base when I swim.
06:03 kahrl ok, so it's not the problem I'm thinking of
06:03 LazyJ If this affects Misa, what other higher-res texture packs may be affected, is another concern.
06:05 LazyJ The curious thing is why didn't the water display when I swapped the default_water_flowing/source_animated.png files in Misa with the default ones?
06:06 LazyJ The water *is* spreading, it's just invisible.
06:06 LazyJ Falling water and pooled water display just fine.
06:08 LazyJ I was creating a brook and noticed the grass turning to dirt in the areas where the was overspill.
06:08 LazyJ The outer edges of the dirt nods where light blue.
06:09 LazyJ When I flew into the ground in those areas, the air changed to water.
06:10 kahrl are you playing on a server?
06:10 LazyJ Yeah. The server is 0.4.6
06:10 kahrl oh, I guess the problem then is that the server is not sending liquid_range
06:11 Peacock 0.4.6 doesnt have it i think
06:11 LazyJ Ahk.. the one place I forgot to check is in a singleplayer world. (facepalms).
06:19 LazyJ Ok, just tested this issue in a singleplayer world... still a problem.
06:19 LazyJ I placed water_sources on the ground and the water_source nodes didn't spread.
06:20 LazyJ Then I placed a water_source on a tall stone wall (waterfall simulation).
06:20 LazyJ The water_source node just hung there as a contained block of water.
06:21 LazyJ Next I flew under the suspended water_source expecting to be immersed... didn't happen, just air below it as if it were a non-liquid node.
06:22 LazyJ Then I flew in the ground between the placed water_source nodes... same thing, no water immersion.
06:23 LazyJ The singleplayer wold was created in the 2013_07_23 daily-build of Minetest (compiled from source on Linux).
06:23 LazyJ *world
06:24 kahrl so in this case, the water isn't actually there?
06:24 LazyJ Correct.
06:24 kahrl seems like in this case it's the liquid_loop_max problem I mentioned
06:25 kahrl try it again with liquid_loop_max = 10000
06:25 LazyJ In previously created pools the water is there. In new pools, the water_sources sit there as contained nodes.
06:26 VanessaE ...I warned that changing that value by default wasn't going to work right without changing how the 'buffer' was being populated to start with
06:27 LazyJ Side note:  "Item definitions..." take forever to load now.
06:28 LazyJ Just remembered that as I waited for the test world to load.
06:31 LazyJ Ok, liquid_loop_max = 1000 was uncommented and the water_source node placed on the ground pooled somewhat.
06:31 Peacock this problem due to liquid_range thingy that was pushed?
06:32 LazyJ Then I upped the number to 10000... same results. The some of the water_source nodes spread out, some didn't. There are holes in the pool between the water_sources.
06:33 kahrl LazyJ: did you take the sources and place them back?
06:33 kahrl otherwise it might not update them
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06:33 LazyJ No, I left the original sources I place earlier in the test
06:35 LazyJ Cleaning up with WE
06:37 LazyJ Hmph... the only time I've been happy to see an area get flooded. :p
06:38 LazyJ Ok, cleaned-up the first test blocks, placed new water_sources in the pool... they spread as they should.
06:38 LazyJ Then I placed another water_source on the stone wall to create the "waterfall".
06:38 LazyJ This time the water_source flowed out and downward.
06:39 LazyJ At the base of the waterfall the spreading water that connects the pooled water and the falling water displayed.
06:39 LazyJ So, now I'll so how this shows up when I connect to our server.
06:40 VanessaE kahrl: I think the issue is the blocks are added to the flowing queue in some sort of chronological order, and when the buffer gets full, instead of being wiped and started over from another spot in the list, it's started over from the beginning.
06:41 VanessaE it should be filled from random places
06:41 VanessaE if that's possible.
06:41 kahrl I have stopped trying to understand how the water spreading works (or doesn't) in this game
06:41 kahrl that's others' expertise ;)
06:41 VanessaE heh
06:42 LazyJ Ok, the problem still persists when I connect to our 0.4.6 server with my 0.4.7 client.
06:42 kahrl LazyJ: yeah, liquid_loop_max is a server setting, changing it in your client doesn't affect the server
06:42 LazyJ My singleplayer worlds are fixed now, just the server is goofy.
06:43 kahrl oh, and it doesn't fix the liquid_range problem of course
06:43 LazyJ Does the liquid_loop work on a server 0.4.6 from 2013_04_12?
06:43 kahrl no
06:44 LazyJ I'm checking to see if I have server rights to edit the minetest.conf file.
06:44 LazyJ Ah, well, nvm then
06:44 Peacock which water though lol finite or regular
06:45 LazyJ Regular water.
06:45 Miner_48er you have the rights to edit it
06:45 LazyJ You're up late, Miner.  :)-
06:45 Peacock so theyre both buggy now :/
06:46 Miner_48er could you alter the client source code to a fixed number?
06:47 LazyJ Too much coffee... brb.
06:48 VanessaE water in, water out? ;)
06:48 Peacock lol
06:48 Peacock if only i had a catheter i could be ever-more efficient :p
06:49 Peacock even better: http://www.rugsandblinds.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/toilet_sofas.jpg
06:49 VanessaE hehe
06:52 LazyJ Once I discovered the magic of freshly ground beans brewed in a french press, I truly began to enjoy coffee.
06:52 Peacock i grind mine too, but no french press (it surrendered)
06:52 VanessaE lol
06:53 LazyJ Ever try a Moka pot?
06:53 Peacock coffee flavoured cannabis?
06:53 LazyJ No, a stove-top espresso maker.
06:53 Peacock oh no
06:53 Peacock wife, burning things, fires
06:54 LazyJ To the aficionados it doesn't make a "true" espresso.
06:54 LazyJ But for poor folk like me, it does a real good job of making high-powered coffee on the cheap.
06:54 LazyJ Well, relatively cheap.
06:55 LazyJ A "true" espresso machine costs over a thousand dollars (cough, sputter, wheeze).
06:55 Peacock oh i know
06:55 Peacock i broke one working as barista lol
06:55 LazyJ An Italian made, Bialetti Moka pot $40 or so.
06:56 LazyJ I splurged and paid $60 for a stainless still pot.
06:56 LazyJ But my little, one-cup French press is the brewing method of choice.
06:56 Peacock i have a collection of coffee machines i've been meaning to fix lol
06:57 LazyJ Easier, less prep, different coffees with each cup.
06:57 Peacock im OCD they all have to taste the same and just so lol
06:57 Peacock i can even tell when the brewery is due to clean their tanks lol
06:58 LazyJ Yeah, clean machines are *usually* best... but the Moka pot is a little different.
06:58 LazyJ It's like a cast iron skillet... needs to be "seasoned" first before using.
06:59 Peacock i know about that, Niles gets his crepe pans reseasoned every so often lol
06:59 LazyJ It's recommended to brew 3 or 4 pots to build up the oils on the inside.
06:59 Peacock im guessing you can stand the taste of the ground canned coffee either then :P
06:59 Peacock *can't
07:00 LazyJ I use an aluminum Moka pot at work. Seasoning isn't so necessary for the stainless steel pot.
07:00 LazyJ Well, cheap, pre-ground, canned coffee is caffeine when you need it.
07:01 LazyJ I work 12hr graveyard shifts so caffeine first, taste second.
07:01 Peacock i cant do that anymore
07:01 LazyJ But I've learned to achieve both. ;)
07:01 VanessaE just go to thinkgeek.  they have caffeine in every form imaginable :)
07:01 Peacock ive gone up to 80hr weeks and more, then burnout lol
07:01 VanessaE (soap, gum, various kinds of drinks, and a few other things, I think)
07:01 Peacock it gets to a point where you add all the hours in a week to figure just how much you can sleep lol
07:02 LazyJ Oh, yeah, VanessaE, I've seen a few of those. :)
07:02 LazyJ Soap may be going a bit far, even for me. :D
07:02 LazyJ Coffee scented soap, that is. I do bathe.
07:02 VanessaE nono
07:02 VanessaE this is caffeinated soap
07:03 LazyJ Oh, well in that case, who needs a whirlpool tub. :)-
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07:04 hoodedice yo
07:05 LazyJ Even cheap, pre-ground, store-brand, canned coffee can be improved when brewed in a French press with a pinch of salt.
07:05 hoodedice The init.lua in this mod doesn't work.
07:05 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4779
07:05 hoodedice I tried all the usual suspects
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07:05 hoodedice mod folder name
07:06 hoodedice etc
07:07 Peacock wat is error
07:07 LazyJ I almost flunked chemistry class.
07:07 LazyJ I'll step away and leave this to the professionals. ;)
07:08 hoodedice Failed to load and run blah blah directory\mods\chemistry
07:08 Peacock yeah but line number
07:08 hoodedice I THINK I mgiht be using PIlzAdam's windoze builds
07:08 hoodedice line number?
07:09 Peacock i neeed the part of error that gives line number and filename
07:10 hoodedice file name is init.lua
07:11 Peacock jesus christ 16 dofiles lol
07:11 hoodedice yeah lol
07:11 hoodedice It's a chem mod after all :P
07:11 hoodedice There should've been more than that !
07:11 Peacock yeah but its hard to track down which file
07:11 hoodedice I guessed that
07:11 hoodedice So You start from the top
07:12 hoodedice I'll check from the bottom
07:13 Peacock edited 5 days ago:acetylene_burner_recipes.lua, air_collector.lua,crafts.lua
07:13 Peacock distiller.lua
07:13 Peacock id start with the latest edits and work your way backwards
07:13 Peacock i can't look at allll those files
07:13 Peacock dozing off as it is lol
07:13 hoodedice Wow
07:13 hoodedice I'm still new to git, so thanks for the up :)
07:13 Peacock https://github.com/m97/chemistry <- says when the files were edited
07:14 hoodedice I saw that after you pointed it out :)
07:14 hoodedice I cloned the file in any case
07:15 Peacock if it wont even start, its prolly tiny syntax error somewhere
07:15 Peacock missing }) or quote,
07:15 hoodedice Run it through some debugger?
07:15 hoodedice Using this thing called Decoda atm
07:17 Peacock line 42-43 perhaps? https://github.com/m97/chemistry/blob/d7c7ae1a7a1276ed8fbbd4236e98ce1165951047/air_collector.lua
07:17 Peacock could be my tiredness, but it looks off to me
07:17 Peacock naw its fine
07:17 * Peacock keeps looking
07:18 Peacock didnt even give the right line number lol
07:18 Peacock fuck it ill dl and try it out lol
07:18 hoodedice I got this error in debug
07:19 hoodedice An exception has been caught: ...0003fc8-vmanip-win32\bin\..\mods\chemistry/distiller.lua:207: attempt to call field 'register_LV_machine' (a nil value)
07:19 Peacock ahhh
07:19 Peacock you got technic?
07:19 hoodedice So This LV machine is not defined I guess
07:19 hoodedice Yes
07:20 Peacock is your tecnic older than chemistry (like much older?)
07:20 hoodedice Could be
07:20 hoodedice I'll update it and get back
07:21 hoodedice Listen. Is it better to clone or stable download?
07:21 Peacock github is like polish to me lol
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07:21 Peacock just look for the download button :p
07:21 hoodedice polish?
07:22 Peacock i know it keeps moving
07:22 hoodedice o k
07:22 hoodedice Yeah.
07:22 Peacock cant use github, its like programming an old VCR lol
07:22 hoodedice haha
07:23 hoodedice Do I have to update all dependencies as well?
07:23 Peacock well start with just technic and see if it works after
07:23 hoodedice ok
07:24 hoodedice Dun cha
07:24 hoodedice Works
07:24 Peacock wow i couldn't test this if i wanted to, chemistry deps on technic, technic deps on mesecons and a few other big mods lol
07:24 hoodedice Thanks a lot :)
07:24 Peacock no prob
07:25 hoodedice Yeah, I wish mod organisation was in the main game
07:25 hoodedice Something called 'auto-update' feature
07:25 Peacock theyre working on a mod manager
07:25 hoodedice Yaaay
07:25 Peacock im not crazy about it but im just used to oldschool way of unzipping folders lol
07:26 hoodedice But checking for new versions is tedious
07:26 hoodedice And mass unzipping can be a pain in the donkey
07:27 Peacock true
07:27 Peacock thats why i dont go for chain dependencies
07:27 Peacock i like mods to work on their own
07:27 Peacock and i hate having to install mods i dont want to play the ones i do want lol
07:27 hoodedice Lol
07:27 hoodedice I hate inventory++
07:28 Peacock so i usually just end up forking
07:28 hoodedice I like the worldedit one better
07:28 Peacock worldedit isn't an inventory tho
07:28 hoodedice I get one when I use it
07:28 hoodedice :/
07:28 Peacock bizarre
07:28 Peacock musta been outta the loop on that one lol
07:29 hoodedice indeed. I was pleasantly surprised on that one. It has a useful search feature
07:29 VanessaE bbl
07:29 Peacock well all the inventories are based on cornernotes' that had the search
07:29 Peacock even mine is a fork of a fork lol
07:30 hoodedice In any case, I'm a noob dev
07:31 hoodedice This is the first time I'm actually trying to make a mod, or write a .lua script at that
07:31 hoodedice So, I don't think I'm ready to handle forks atm
07:31 Peacock youd be surprised how many mods are derivs :p
07:31 Peacock or combos
07:32 hoodedice I won't be
07:32 hoodedice That's what we call open-source :P
07:32 hoodedice Ubuntu --> Xubuntu, Mythbuntu, Edubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu,
07:33 Peacock yeah its insane lol
07:33 hoodedice If a damn OS can have 5 or more official rip-offs
07:33 hoodedice (and hundreds of unofficial ones)
07:33 hoodedice What are mods then?
07:34 Peacock some are rewrites, some are originals, some are derivs, some are combos :p
07:34 hoodedice And some are failures :P
07:34 hoodedice most are failures :P
07:34 Peacock and some are so bloody siimilar you sit there going "wtf" lol
07:34 Peacock right now people are going crazy with instant buildings lol
07:35 hoodedice The chemistry mod itself has around two (or more) forks
07:35 Peacock you talking github forks or formal entries on the forum?
07:35 Peacock cuz plenty of stuff gets "forked" without anything happening on github
07:35 hoodedice The one I'm using is older, but this guy https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6616 made another one
07:35 hoodedice Forum
07:36 Peacock theres nothing there lol
07:36 Peacock code's empty, forum post is placeholder
07:36 hoodedice wut?
07:36 hoodedice https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6616
07:37 JesseH I would get into modding if I had a server to play on :P
07:37 hoodedice You do
07:37 hoodedice Use the singleplayer mode :P
07:37 JesseH not until I finish building this
07:37 hoodedice And 'This' is?
07:37 JesseH hoodedice, singleplayer is for testing mods :P
07:37 JesseH minetest
07:37 JesseH I thought that part was obvious
07:37 Peacock i test mods on server :p
07:37 hoodedice Wow. You're actually building minetest
07:37 JesseH O_o
07:38 Peacock hard to tell if you can get rid of griefers without testing shit on them lol
07:38 JesseH Why wouldnt i?
07:38 hoodedice Well, I'm lazy
07:38 hoodedice I prefer pre-built ones
07:38 JesseH Peacock, I want to get cool with a owner of a host that has a few people that come daily, so I can see my mods being used :P
07:38 hoodedice And I'm on windows atm :P
07:38 Peacock best way is to start your own server :p
07:39 Peacock otherwise its your mods + 100 others lol
07:39 JesseH but it would be local and I could be alone :(
07:39 JesseH You have a point
07:39 Peacock so the testing phase could take a long time
07:39 JesseH I don't really have any money to get it hosted, either
07:39 * JesseH forever alone
07:39 Peacock and server admins might not report every bug to you
07:39 Peacock well, small server dont need hosting
07:40 Peacock just make sure bandwidth aint capped at home
07:40 JesseH I have pretty bad internet.
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07:42 JesseH Peacock, Do you host your server?
07:43 Peacock yeah tho not 24/7
07:43 JesseH lemme on :D
07:43 Peacock only when i can keep an eye on people
07:43 Peacock depends are you already banned? if not you should see it
07:43 JesseH and give me ssh access >:)
07:43 Peacock 3 days and already 30+ bans lol
07:44 hoodedice ssh?
07:44 Peacock SSH = Sweet Sweet Honey
07:44 Peacock ill require 30 pieces of silver for that
07:44 Peacock j/k
07:45 hoodedice lol
07:46 hoodedice Now where is that API......
07:46 hoodedice Eureka
07:46 Peacock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
07:46 Peacock speedial lol
07:46 hoodedice What is THAT?
07:46 Peacock all the api functions
07:46 JesseH Is restarting a server needed to upload mods?
07:47 hoodedice oooh, looks sweeter than the wiki
07:47 hoodedice Thanks :)
07:47 Peacock well if you install new mods while its running, yeah restart
07:47 JesseH I want to see how minetest handles all that, and see if you can reload modules
07:47 Peacock the wiki is woefully inadequate lol
07:47 hoodedice Say, did anyone make a readable book mod yet?
07:48 Peacock tinoshreo (whatever) made a book mod methinks
07:48 JesseH Because with my LOVE games, I had it so that modules would be reloaded with a press of a button, so that I never had to restart the game to see the changes
07:48 Peacock well you cant register nodes on the run methinks
07:48 hoodedice YOu use Love2d. Cool.
07:49 hoodedice What about LuaJIT? Wont that register stuff as you need it?
07:49 Peacock besides dynamic mod loading would prolly be abused like a priest abuses a choir boy
07:50 JesseH Basically, add this at the top of your scripts "module(..., package.seeall)" and to reload them you can do something like this http://hastebin.com/yagopuwihe.lua
07:51 JesseH lines 5 and 6 are what matter
07:51 JesseH That was a block of code from my irc bot
07:52 Peacock minetest mod ircbot or just ircbot?
07:52 JesseH Just an irc bot
07:53 Peacock i often wonder about some people on here lol
07:53 JesseH I want to play around with speech recognition soon, and will likely use Minetest to fudge around
07:54 Peacock minetest dont have voice tho
07:54 JesseH I will use the speech recognition software to handle the voice commands I give it
07:54 JesseH It  will do something, that will effect something in game
07:54 JesseH I just haven't figured out what yet.
07:55 JesseH or how I will do it
07:55 JesseH but if I can get reloading working, then I will know how
07:55 JesseH and will do some cool shit :
07:55 JesseH :D
07:55 JesseH I think I'm going to start playing around with that now actually.
08:00 Peacock im too tired to work on shielsds tonight lol
08:01 JesseH I'm trying to fix all these damn broken packages...fucking ubuntu <__________________>
08:01 PenguinDad Peacock: In Germany it's 10 AM.
08:01 Peacock i hit the sack at 8am (GMT-5) and woke at 15hrs lol
08:02 Peacock now its 4am the next day lol
08:02 Peacock im all off
08:02 Peacock *thrown off
08:02 Peacock and the cat thinks its party time :( lol
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08:06 hoodedice I found the books mod
08:06 hoodedice I wanted to take a look at the original PilzAdam version
08:06 hoodedice But THANK YOU omdlr
08:06 hoodedice ompdlr
08:07 hoodedice Got it
08:09 hoodedice Going ciao
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08:11 Peacock <hoodedice> But THANK YOU omdlr
08:11 Peacock ompldr? its dead Jim
08:11 Peacock off to sleep as well lol
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08:27 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Louise Brown Day! :-D
08:28 PenguinDad |-|;
08:31 kahrl I thought it was Ebernoe Horn Day
08:31 kahrl everyone should play cricket today
08:33 JamesTait kahrl, I think it's that too, yes. :)
08:33 JesseH I am about to make a sandwich, in memory of louise who gives a fuck brown :P
08:33 PenguinDad kahrl: But I don't know how to play cricket :P
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10:18 MasterBot hi
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10:26 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:27 MasterBot Hello superkabel!
10:27 MasterBot everythings fucked
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10:28 MasterBot I want ot install minetest but...
10:28 MasterBot I have updated to Lubuntu 13.04, BIG MISTAKE
10:28 MasterBot So now i need to install dependencied
10:29 MasterBot and change this RETARDED font
10:29 MasterBot Help Please!
10:32 JesseH MasterBot, Hello, what?
10:33 JesseH Why don't you go to the lubuntu channel?
10:33 JesseH used to be active in there
10:33 JesseH <_>
10:33 MasterBot Because its to do with minetest installation and customization
10:33 MasterBot and im banned from there
10:33 MasterBot afaik
10:33 JesseH Ah
10:33 JesseH Wtf why? They dont even talk there <_>
10:34 MasterBot E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? ARRGGGH
10:34 MasterBot This happened last time aswell and i just installed 150MB to stop it happening
10:34 JesseH That's a classic ubuntu problem :P
10:34 JesseH MasterBot, Also, most problems can be answered in #ubuntu
10:34 JesseH Lubuntu is again, just ubuntu with lxde
10:35 MasterBot ...Banned!
10:35 MasterBot ..or not!
10:35 JesseH MasterBot, I forgot exactly how to fix that issue, youll have to remove the lock yourself, or close something
10:35 MasterBot lol thats other nick
10:35 JesseH MasterBot, try closing ubuntu software center? :P
10:35 MasterBot E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/
10:36 PilzAdam MasterBot, your problems are not related to Minetest, thus they dont belong in this channel
10:36 MasterBot Uh oh, i see where this is going
10:36 JesseH Harsh :P
10:36 JesseH MasterBot, calm it :P
10:36 MasterBot They are because im installing dependencies
10:36 MasterBot Im just not pasting all of it
10:37 JesseH >_>
10:38 MasterBot https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3722
10:38 MasterBot Very old
10:38 MasterBot But worked last time
10:59 Zeg9 RealBadAngel: what's the license for HavenTP ? Would you mind if I add the water textures (downscaled to 32x) to mt-faithful?
11:00 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Show portnumber for ip adresses only 215e37aac3 2013-07-25T03:58:14-07:00 http://git.io/8WM0Ww
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11:24 DanDuncombe Who likes the 'Virologist' skin in the zombies gaem? I found it online on the Mc Skindex and thought it was apt...
11:24 DanDuncombe *game
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11:37 DanDuncombe Funny error when trying to make new zombie mob :) http://s10.postimg.org/4ximuftzt/screenshot_11106133.png
11:37 Zeg9 hehe
11:38 Zeg9 Maybe that's why there is a "giant" in minecraft
11:38 DanDuncombe I need to makehim smalller...
11:42 DanDuncombe Fail No.2  http://s23.postimg.org/8i23oazqj/screenshot_11413384.png
11:43 DanDuncombe How do I stop it being buried in the ground like that?
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11:47 DanDuncombe Jordach?Can you help me stop him being stuck in the ground?  http://s23.postimg.org/8i23oazqj/screenshot_11413384.png
11:47 DanDuncombe He always walks throught the ground like that.
11:47 Jordach DanDuncombe, spawn them y+1
11:47 DanDuncombe They fall through the floor though
11:47 Jordach DanDuncombe, hmm
11:48 Jordach i've played with simple mobs before
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11:48 Jordach my own mobs never fell through
11:48 DanDuncombe I am trying to make the zombie mod zombies like a zombie Sam.
11:49 Jordach DanDuncombe, sent you a pm
11:49 DanDuncombe I saw
11:49 Jordach DanDuncombe, can you zip your latest code?
11:49 Jordach or is it on github
11:49 Jordach or somewhere
11:49 Zeg9 DanDuncombe: your collision box is probably too high
11:49 DanDuncombe I will dropbox it- will just be a moment
11:49 Jordach DanDuncombe, thanks
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12:53 MasterBot Hi
12:54 DanDuncombe HI
12:54 JesseH HI
12:54 MasterBot HI then
12:54 MasterBot Back on windows :(
12:55 MasterBot lol got wrong linux system
13:02 DanDuncombe Small zombie http://s21.postimg.org/vipu903yf/screenshot_16079941.png
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13:02 DanDuncombe ~150 nodes high, there are about 10 stuck together
13:04 MasterBot How's your FPS?
13:04 MasterBot Uh-oh
13:04 MasterBot 50sec
13:04 MasterBot to get OS
13:04 * MasterBot hides
13:04 MasterBot 10!
13:05 DanDuncombe They kind of bundled together
13:05 MasterBot well shit
13:05 DanDuncombe What?
13:06 MasterBot WHY DOES THE INSTALL CRASH AT THE LAST MOMENT!!?
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13:06 DanDuncombe I was getting around 4-5 fps by the way.
13:06 MasterBot Lol thats not good
13:06 MasterBot Try one entity
13:06 MasterBot Or try a small entity ~1 block
13:06 DanDuncombe Yep
13:06 MasterBot Or a hypothtical entity
13:07 MasterBot You cant see it, but its not there but hurts you
13:07 DanDuncombe Also, your install crashed because they are specifically engineered to annoy even the calmest person.
13:07 MasterBot Compliment?
13:07 MasterBot I am not calm!!!
13:08 * MasterBot throws his pen out the window
13:08 DanDuncombe Also, can someone come on VanessaE'sserver and tell me if my skin is working?
13:08 MasterBot Join it on another client
13:08 MasterBot You know better than anyone else
13:09 MasterBot Not as an insult, but if you want something done, do it your self. You will not neccesarily no it better but at least you will get it done to your satisfaction
13:09 DanDuncombe Okay
13:09 DanDuncombe I forgot I can have 2 windows
13:09 MasterBot These are the only wise words i know
13:10 DanDuncombe I logged on as... Nim!
13:10 MasterBot do screenshot :)
13:12 MasterBot What SMALL OSes can run minetest?
13:12 MasterBot i am talking about <1 GB
13:12 DanDuncombe I don't know if it runs it but Linux Tinycore can be smaller than 5mb
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13:13 MasterBot I am saying this not because i have a crappy PC but because i want to carry my OS with me :)
13:13 DanDuncombe Tinycore can be portable install on a USB stick.
13:14 DanDuncombe http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/32/6eop.jpg/     Lol
13:14 MasterBot PilzAdam
13:15 MasterBot You forgot your irritating greeting
13:16 MasterBot Il need to reboot my PC to use this
13:16 MasterBot What is the Device called if i boot it from an SD card?
13:16 DanDuncombe My favourite Mt/Mc skin (A virologist):       http://s10.postimg.org/qi2kqu3kp/screenshot_17031339.png        http://s23.postimg.org/wmsafy2y3/screenshot_17045710.png
13:17 MasterBot I am going to have my os on a 32MB SD Card
13:17 DanDuncombe You can see the lava griefing in the backgrounf
13:17 MasterBot Anything less than 8MB :P
13:17 MasterBot ?
13:18 MasterBot Thats not leaves?!
13:18 MasterBot Oo thats steep: 9HR install Lubuntu
13:18 MasterBot okay 3
13:18 DanDuncombe Someone griefed V's server- hence all the orange lava at the left of second pic
13:19 DanDuncombe Can someone try the current version of zombie game? See if you can find a buried Industry TM crate...
13:20 MasterBot I cant
13:20 MasterBot Until i get a non-retarded OS
13:20 MasterBot [POLL] what OS do you use?
13:20 DanDuncombe Industry TM used to be like But 'n' Large in Wall-E , until the apocalypse came...
13:21 DanDuncombe *Buy 'n' Large
13:21 MasterBot I have a question!
13:21 DanDuncombe Wht is it?
13:21 MasterBot Do i put [BOOT] file in the root of my bootable disk?
13:21 MasterBot *folder
13:21 DanDuncombe Dunno
13:21 PilzAdam MasterBot, stop being constantly offtopic
13:21 DanDuncombe What would it be like if I did time speed 230?
13:23 MasterBot http://pastebin.com/JbaEf0Ue
13:24 MasterBot Good for a minetest server?
13:24 PilzAdam !op
13:24 DanDuncombe Time speed 1000.WOW!
13:24 MasterBot It lags in transition
13:24 MasterBot Also notice a small bog
13:24 MasterBot *bug
13:25 MasterBot Watch the sun move, it glitches sometimes
13:25 MasterBot Well, quite a lot iirc
13:25 DanDuncombe Yeah.
13:25 DanDuncombe It 'jumps'
13:25 MasterBot Now to dig out that old memory stick...
13:27 DanDuncombe Okay,now for the Big Test. Time speed 1,000,000
13:27 DanDuncombe WOW! You have to try that!
13:29 MasterBot oh shit, crashed yet?
13:29 DanDuncombe Nope.
13:29 DanDuncombe It's a little tripp though.
13:29 MasterBot linux?
13:30 DanDuncombe *trippy
13:30 MasterBot terminal>>lscpu
13:30 DanDuncombe Nope. Windows starter on a netbook
13:30 MasterBot ah
13:30 MasterBot same1
13:30 MasterBot !
13:30 MasterBot 7?
13:30 DanDuncombe &
13:30 DanDuncombe 7
13:31 DanDuncombe Hint:When writing numbers, don'tpress shift.
13:31 MasterBot 1.6GHz Intel core proccesor 1GB ram
13:31 MasterBot yah, i got same symbol there aswell
13:31 DanDuncombe I have...
13:31 DanDuncombe 1.6 Ghz Intel atom, 2gb ram
13:31 MasterBot dammit lol
13:32 MasterBot Samsung?
13:32 DanDuncombe Smasung indeed]
13:32 MasterBot then can i ask;
13:32 DanDuncombe *Samsung
13:32 MasterBot How you have HD textures
13:32 DanDuncombe I am currently using V's 64 pixel HDX pack, yes
13:33 DanDuncombe I only get around 10fps sometimes, though
13:33 MasterBot What a waste
13:33 MasterBot get linux and get 20 fps at the minimum
13:34 DanDuncombe My netbook number (on label underneath) is: N145-JPO3
13:34 DanDuncombe I have dual boot with Kubuntu already
13:34 Calinou MasterBot: linux drivers are usually slower
13:34 DanDuncombe NEVER USE UBUNTU RARING!
13:34 Calinou and this is even worse if you use desktop effects
13:34 Calinou DanDuncombe: why?
13:34 Calinou works for me
13:35 Calinou the best version is always the best, contrary to what the haters might say
13:35 DanDuncombe Also, Kubuntu normally takes me up to around 80 celsius, when idle.
13:35 MasterBot NC110
13:35 MasterBot on the back
13:35 DanDuncombe You have Nyan Cat number 110.Congratulations!
13:36 Calinou <DanDuncombe> Also, Kubuntu normally takes me up to around 80 celsius, when idle.
13:36 MasterBot Reboot to finish installation
13:36 Calinou tip of the day: don't use the radeon driver on laptops
13:36 Calinou or if you do, use 3.11 + DPM :P
13:36 DanDuncombe I have the NP-N145 Plus netbook, with red edge trimming on a back case.
13:37 DanDuncombe I like it, because, when it freezes you can just undo the clips at the back, and pull out the battery.
13:38 Calinou you don't do that
13:38 DanDuncombe I now have a corrupted hard drive.
13:38 Calinou you can just press power button for 5 seconds, or use Alt+SysRq+REISUB
13:38 DanDuncombe That often won't work.
13:39 DanDuncombe Battery is quicker and easier.
13:39 DanDuncombe And worse for the com's health.
13:39 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, do you hit yourself with a hammer into the face when you want to sleep?
13:39 DanDuncombe No, I lie in bed.
13:39 PilzAdam then why do you do that with your laptop?
13:40 DanDuncombe Because it is quick.
13:40 Calinou lol PilzAdam
13:40 DanDuncombe It has only ever had a corrupted disk which is now fine.
13:40 Calinou I don't know anyone who is able to remove a battery in less than 5 seconds
13:40 Calinou fine?
13:40 Calinou never had a corrupted disk in ~15 years and I wouldn't like that
13:40 DanDuncombe I can... Just slide the clips and POP! It'sout
13:41 DanDuncombe What is MinetestBot for?
13:41 PilzAdam how do you shutdown your iPhone then? ;-)
13:41 DanDuncombe I hold the power button
13:41 DanDuncombe I can't just lever the back off my iphone.
13:42 DanDuncombe https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6696 Can someone test?
13:42 DanDuncombe Jordach is working on cooler zombies.
13:42 DanDuncombe He is da blender merster.
13:43 DanDuncombe I should probably stop posting so much on IRC
13:43 DanDuncombe Otherwise I'll be kicked for spam
13:43 DanDuncombe Oh well
13:43 PenguinDad !title
13:43 MinetestBot PenguinDad: [Game] Zombie Survival [1.1] [zombies] (Page 1) — Minetest Games — Minetest Forums
13:44 PenguinDad DanDuncombe: you can use MinetestBot for that.
13:44 DanDuncombe To show what urls linkto?
13:44 PilzAdam !help
13:44 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
13:44 DanDuncombe lol
13:45 PilzAdam just dont abuse the bot in the channel, you can use /msg too
13:45 DanDuncombe !ignore PilzAdam
13:45 DanDuncombe !unignore PilzAdam
13:45 PilzAdam ignnore is broken
13:45 PilzAdam also you are not an admin
13:45 PilzAdam sfan5, have you fixed !ignore yet?
13:46 DanDuncombe I am sure someone will make me an admin soon :)
13:46 DanDuncombe Muhahahahhahahahhaha
13:46 DanDuncombe Can someone test the game?
13:46 DanDuncombe Please?
13:47 DanDuncombe Also, can someone make dark industrial textures for everything, like this Mc texture pack? www.minecraftmine.org/last-days-texture-pack/
13:48 DanDuncombe If I am kicked for spam can I log back on, or is there a 'cooldown' period?
13:49 DanDuncombe Spam
13:49 DanDuncombe Spam
13:49 DanDuncombe Spam
13:49 DanDuncombe Spam
13:49 PilzAdam !mute DanDuncombe
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13:51 DanielDuncombe Am I still blocked?
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13:51 PilzAdam !unmute DanDuncombe
13:52 DanDuncombe joined #minetest
13:52 DanDuncombe Now there are two of me.
13:52 DanielDuncombe Spam
13:52 DanielDuncombe Woops
13:53 DanDuncombe I don't try to be annoying,I am just a little hyperactive and fidgety.
13:53 DanDuncombe And just a littleis indeed the correct terminology
13:54 DanDuncombe Would this make a good zombie survival map? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6642
13:54 DanDuncombe !
13:54 DanDuncombe What is the 'show the url'command?
13:54 DanDuncombe !MinetestBot
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13:55 Calinou !title
13:55 MinetestBot Calinou: Karsthafen (a city project) (Page 1) — Maps — Minetest Forums
13:55 DanDuncombe Oh
13:55 Calinou "title or gtfo" --4chan
13:55 * Calinou runs
13:55 DanDuncombe !gtfo
13:55 DanDuncombe Doh.
13:55 DanDuncombe I am now officially gullible.
13:56 DanDuncombe Does anyone here play The Powder Toy?
13:56 PilzAdam !mute *!*@*85.210.142.106*
13:56 * Calinou brohooves PilzAdam
13:57 PilzAdam /)(\
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14:58 DanDuncombe Am I unbanned yet?
14:58 Jordach DanDuncombe, ye
14:58 Jordach yes
14:58 Jordach <Jordach> !unmute *!*@*85.210.142.106*
14:58 Jordach * MinetestBot removes quiet on *!*@*85.210.142.106*
14:58 Jordach i did it
14:59 DanDuncombe Good.
14:59 Peacock why would dan be banned?
14:59 DanDuncombe Thanks :)
14:59 DanDuncombe I was talking to much
14:59 DanDuncombe *too
14:59 PilzAdam Peacock, he wasnt banned
14:59 Peacock talking too much? lol but this channel is dead most of the time :p
14:59 Peacock at least during EST hours
15:00 DanDuncombe There were bunches of around 10 posts,all by me
15:00 Peacock ah, forum ban?
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15:01 DanDuncombe Jordach, when you finish the zombie .x, could you do a forum pm? Also, you have 2 weeks at least to do it, because I am holidaying, for two weeks, tomorrow. PilzAdam is probably greatful.
15:01 Peacock 4 days ago it was 43c, last night was more like 10c, caught a cold lol
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15:02 DanDuncombe Does anyone have mod suggestions for zombie game?
15:03 rubenwardy Hi all!
15:03 DanDuncombe Hi
15:04 Peacock howdy
15:07 Peacock happy Threading the Needle Day
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15:16 Jordach DanDuncombe, walking and standing anim done
15:16 Jordach just got to do some finishing touches
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15:17 Jordach okay, finishing touches done
15:17 Jordach DanDuncombe, is there a "attacking" position, or they just chase and do damage in range
15:18 Jordach like the dirt monster
15:18 john_minetest Hello everypony!
15:18 * Jordach sighs
15:20 DanDuncombe Hopefully he should have an 'arms out' zombie tear-your-brain-out pose when attacking.
15:21 DanDuncombe They work like sand monsters I think
15:21 DanDuncombe The original did anyway.
15:22 Jordach DanDuncombe, drawing a skin
15:22 DanDuncombe Okay, thanks
15:23 Jordach i'm using the player model :P
15:23 DanDuncombe A zombie player is brilliant :)
15:23 Jordach DanDuncombe, it's based from Sam II
15:23 DanDuncombe That's fine :)
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15:23 Jordach ....and gimp looks like it crashed again, but it isnt
15:23 Jordach loading... | Fonts this may take a while
15:24 Jordach there we go
15:24 DanDuncombe pm'ed?
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15:26 DanDuncombe BTW, Jordach. You are the best at this, y'know :)
15:31 Jordach DanDuncombe, the zombie model has two states, walking and standing
15:31 DanDuncombe Okay!  We shall see what happens, I gues
15:31 DanDuncombe *guess
15:33 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/T9OWYpS.png
15:33 DanDuncombe Lovely:)
15:33 rubenwardy nice jordach
15:34 rubenwardy maybe some blood/gore? :P
15:34 DanDuncombe Yes
15:34 DanDuncombe Maybe white eyes to
15:34 DanDuncombe Pure white,like Herbrine
15:34 DanDuncombe *Herobrine
15:35 DanDuncombe Also, where did you get that skin maker?
15:35 Jordach model is exported with the original blend file
15:35 Jordach now uploadinhg
15:35 DanDuncombe Thanks.
15:35 Jordach uploading*
15:36 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/download/bifmuyqr9b8uugg/zombie.zip
15:36 Jordach a literal name
15:36 * Jordach hasnt tested the mesh in-game
15:36 * DanDuncombe will try it now
15:36 Jordach model + texture is cc-by-nc-sa
15:37 Jordach - -nc
15:37 DanDuncombe Where is the texture?
15:37 Jordach i knew i forgot something
15:39 DanDuncombe Typical. I tried to test it and couldn't find a damn zombie anywhere.
15:39 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/z1uxjmM.png
15:39 Jordach just right click and save as
15:39 * Jordach has realised there is no hat layer on the model
15:40 Jordach cant get everything right
15:41 Jordach DanDuncombe, better?
15:42 DanDuncombe Still can't find a zombie...
15:42 Jordach frames 0 - 80 is standing
15:42 Jordach frames 81 - 121 are moving / walking
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15:42 Jordach (thought you might need that info)
15:42 Jordach DanDuncombe, /spawnentity mobs:zombie ?
15:43 Jordach ? being there for is it the right entity name
15:43 DanDuncombe I'll try
15:43 DanDuncombe Okay... The zombie is invisible.
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15:45 Jordach DanDuncombe, i didn't uncheck export all selected OBJECTS
15:45 Jordach i probably had the wrong thing checked
15:45 DanDuncombe Okay
15:46 DanDuncombe The spooky thing was, I could still hear it walking around...
15:47 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/view/sgnhcebyu06b14l/zombie.x
15:47 Jordach try that one
15:47 DanDuncombe Thanks.Should zombies drop anything, do you think?
15:47 Jordach rotten flesh?
15:47 Jordach DanDuncombe, i'll keep exporting until it WORKS
15:47 Jordach as i have all day
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15:48 * Jordach suspects DanDuncombe is a brit
15:48 DanDuncombe I AM eNGLISH
15:48 Jordach WHOO!
15:48 DanDuncombe Woops, capslock XD
15:48 Jordach 26 celcius outside of Aylsham
15:49 Jordach DanDuncombe, any update on the model working
15:49 DanDuncombe Still invisible
15:49 Jordach weird
15:49 DanDuncombe 24 celsius in Cranbrook
15:50 Jordach is the texture named zombie.png
15:50 khor 37 celsius in agen
15:50 DanDuncombe Jordach: When I downloaded the second one, it seemed to be a text file with the extension .x
15:50 Jordach DanDuncombe, thats the raw model format
15:51 DanDuncombe Okay
15:51 Jordach model format for minetest is .x
15:51 Jordach so zombie.x in the mobs:zombie def is needed
15:51 DanDuncombe 'Could not load mesh'
15:51 Jordach provided the model is in /mobs/models/zombie.x
15:51 DanDuncombe 'mobs_zombie.x'
15:51 Jordach DanDuncombe, there you go
15:51 Jordach rename the zombie.x to mobs_zombie.x
15:51 DanDuncombe It was there, just couldn't load it.
15:52 Jordach DanDuncombe, it does that with the player model afaik
15:52 DanDuncombe Yeah! WOO!
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15:52 MasterBot Hi
15:52 Jordach it works with the frames i told you to use
15:52 MasterBot Using TinyCoreLinux
15:52 MasterBot But no [AT] or [HASH] symbol
15:52 Jordach also: screenshot it
15:53 * Jordach wants evidence
15:53 DanDuncombe Okay...
15:53 MasterBot reckon i can get minetest running here?
15:53 Jordach MasterBot, thats the point of open source
15:53 Jordach as it should run on anything with patience
15:53 MasterBot Patience?
15:53 Jordach but i'd stick with windows and then install mint or something
15:53 * Jordach likes Linux Mint 15
15:54 MasterBot This was just a test
15:54 MasterBot And it passed!
15:54 MasterBot and now i can carry my os around with me!!!
15:55 DanDuncombe His arms are huge
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15:55 DanDuncombe http://s17.postimg.org/8ezpq5q0v/screenshot_26597101.png
15:55 Jordach emh
15:56 Jordach DanDuncombe, the scale in my blender is 1.0 for all frames
15:56 DanDuncombe Okay
15:56 DanDuncombe He looks cool with huge arms tough
15:56 DanDuncombe He mutated
15:56 Jordach DanDuncombe, i think i worked it out
15:57 DanDuncombe MM?
15:57 Jordach I might have done Export skin weights
15:58 Jordach as well as bones
15:58 DanDuncombe He has no animation
15:58 * Jordach uploads a fix
15:58 DanDuncombe He just skides around
15:58 DanDuncombe *slides
15:58 Jordach DanDuncombe, frames 0-80 is standing around
15:58 Jordach frames 81-121 is walking / chasing
15:58 MasterBot Python works!
15:58 DanDuncombe Okay. Will change.
15:58 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/view/68cb378mmhtiwo2/mobs_zombie.x <- try
15:59 Jordach once you've added the frame ranges
15:59 MasterBot How do i change resolution from terminal?
15:59 MasterBot I dont have xrandr though
15:59 Jordach (that MIGHT BE WHY the arms are huge)
16:00 MasterBot Ima reboot to openbox
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16:02 DanDuncombe The armswork now.
16:02 Jordach there we go, the mobs_zombie.x is unneeded
16:02 Jordach DanDuncombe, screenshots!
16:03 DanDuncombe Be a moment
16:03 Jordach okay :D
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16:04 * Jordach might also make some zombie sounds
16:04 * Jordach has a mic for that
16:06 DanDuncombe Still no animations. But here is a screeny. I have set the animations for the right frames,so don't know what the prblem is. http://s11.postimg.org/yre19k5rn/screenshot_27255274.png
16:07 DanDuncombe He just slides around like that.
16:07 Jordach DanDuncombe, show me the code for the zombie
16:07 Jordach (zip up your latest)
16:07 DanDuncombe All of it? Can I pastebin it?
16:07 Jordach i want the entire game dir
16:07 DanDuncombe So... the whole mod?
16:08 Jordach i could probably find the bug in a min
16:08 Jordach DanDuncombe, yes
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16:08 DanDuncombe https://www.dropbox.com/s/13dbqxc1mc7shmu/zombie.zip
16:10 Jordach DanDuncombe, i meant the game mode
16:10 DanDuncombe Ok, will just be a moment updating github.
16:10 Jordach sweet
16:12 Jordach http://paste.viewskew.com/index.php/view/57285798
16:12 Jordach fixes
16:13 Jordach mainly to the anims
16:14 DanDuncombe Just a few moments til the latest is on git.
16:14 DanDuncombe Okay. Latest version on Github
16:15 * Jordach needs link
16:15 DanDuncombe Link is on game topic
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16:21 DanDuncombe Jordach, how's it going?
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16:26 DanDuncombe Jordach, are you there?
16:26 Jordach mhm
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16:26 MasterBot Hi
16:27 * Jordach tries another export
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16:27 Jordach i'll frig about until it wokrs
16:27 Jordach works*
16:28 DanDuncombe Ready before tomorrow, I hope :) Looks really good so far.
16:28 MasterBot Any Oses i can fit on 4GB
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16:28 MasterBot That can run minetest/Python?
16:29 nalkri Any sane Linux install?
16:29 DanDuncombe Get a bigger sd/memory card?
16:29 MasterBot Sorry, 4 and 2 are only ones i have
16:29 MasterBot And the point is to make it portable
16:30 MasterBot Hmm.. 200MB in 1min 50MB in 10min
16:30 MasterBot Damn Small Linux have shitty servers
16:35 DanDuncombe Jordach, any updates
16:36 Jordach DanDuncombe, hm, seems like blender's .x exporter is literally broken
16:36 Jordach when i say broken, i mean it
16:36 DanDuncombe Try a different version? Or I could try the default player model, somehow
16:38 DanDuncombe Jordach: I will now try using the Vombie model from MobF
16:39 MasterBot Is there an alternative to UnetBootin?
16:40 MasterBot oh, nvm, reboot :)
16:40 PenguinDad MasterBot: you can use multisystem
16:40 Jordach DanDuncombe, http://wiki.blender.org/index.php/Extensions:2.6/Py/Scripts/Import-Export/DirectX_Exporter
16:41 Jordach there is a note at the top of the page
16:43 DanDuncombe Could you do that? I can't .x from Blender at all anyway, because I can't open User Preferences.
16:43 Jordach DanDuncombe, already got the fix, just need to apply it
16:45 DanDuncombe Okay. I tried the vombie model from mobf, and two things. 1) It uses a different pattern for textures, and 2) It moves sideways.
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16:47 Jordach DanDuncombe, the model error that there is something missing is gone for good
16:48 DanDuncombe Errm. So, can anything be done?
16:48 Jordach DanDuncombe, continual re-exports
16:48 DanDuncombe Okay.
16:50 Jordach ehm shit
16:50 Jordach i had selected markers
16:50 DanDuncombe This may be a good thing to note: Minetest can load .b3d files as well as .x
16:50 Jordach which might have cause this
16:51 * Jordach tests
16:51 DanDuncombe Oh and BTW, the player model is hilarious. Instead of walking, when he moves he sits down and slides along on his bum.
16:51 DanDuncombe When used as the zombie.
16:53 DanDuncombe So if you can export as .b3d, then that may be a solution.
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17:01 Jordach export b3d isnt in blender
17:01 DanDuncombe I just found that out.
17:01 DanDuncombe There must be a way...
17:03 DanDuncombe All I can suggest is get whatever program make .b3d files...
17:03 PilzAdam sapier has a script for blender to export b3d IIRC
17:04 DanDuncombe WHERE IS THE SCRIPT
17:07 DanDuncombe A blender-b3d script: https://supertuxkart.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/supertuxkart/media/trunk/blender_25/B3DExport.py
17:07 DanDuncombe Jordach, see above
17:09 Jordach bbl
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17:38 DanDuncombe Can someone please look at the latest version of zombies and give them a better texture? Thanks so much!
17:38 DanDuncombe Just need to update git...
17:39 DanDuncombe Done!
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17:46 DanDuncombe https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=102032#p102032
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17:55 DanDuncombe PLease help making texture (see above post)
17:56 Peacock someone will notice the forum post :P no need to keep asking multiple times here :-)
17:56 Peacock texture ppl are hard to come by
17:58 Peacock especially with people being anal about each texture's individual license lol
17:58 Calinou Peacock: are you mauvebic? :P
17:58 Peacock um, yeah, thought that was obvious :p
17:58 Peacock and its 14hrs here
17:59 PenguinDad At my place it's 20hrs
17:59 Peacock exio figured it out fairly quickly lol
18:00 Peacock CTCP are for time right?
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18:00 Peacock anyways ive been away long enough that i dont remember the password for mauvebic lol
18:06 DanDuncombe It's just the texture is the Zombie Mod texture, and I don't like it because it's too similar to the Simplemobs original skin.
18:07 Peacock I think V has a lot of skins' for her servers' players
18:07 DanDuncombe This has a different shape though, and those won't therefore work
18:08 DanDuncombe Who think there should be the occasional giant zombie?
18:08 DanDuncombe And maybe baby ones too.
18:08 Menche i think normal zomies should be weaker
18:09 Menche speaking of baby zombies, on my server right now there's an entity bug that makes the zombies insect-sized
18:09 Peacock i get that with attach
18:09 Menche maybe my client still has the old models cached
18:09 Peacock my sentry was sposed to be a stationary machine gun that you had to aim to fire
18:09 Peacock but the players got shrunk to ant-size lol
18:09 Menche gah, a turret destroyed my boat :(
18:10 Peacock which turret mod?
18:10 Peacock dans or jordans?
18:10 Menche whatever DanDuncombe has in his zombies game
18:10 DanDuncombe The same as in my camo mod.
18:10 Peacock i dont know if jordans did the same but i got rid of the node removal, my bullets only hit people
18:11 Peacock though my turrets are realllly old so i dont quite remember how i set it up lol
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18:13 Menche kaeza's firearms mod uses particles instead of entities for bullets
18:13 Peacock how does that work? i know particles can be physical, but do damage?
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18:15 Peacock ahh, the particles dont actually do the killing
18:15 Menche it looks like it actually does spawn an entity
18:15 Menche ?
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18:16 Peacock thats weird cuz my bullets can kill mobs (entities)
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18:17 Peacock says on top of p5: - Added particles to simulate bullets.
18:17 Peacock if theyre simulated then theyre not doing the damage, something else is
18:17 Calinou of pentium 5? :D
18:17 Peacock page
18:17 Calinou Peacock: CTCP is for version, time, ping...
18:17 Calinou and theorically anything
18:17 Calinou you can create your own CTCPs
18:18 Peacock i dont use irc often enough to know all the quirks tho lol
18:18 PenguinDad Calinou and for FINGER
18:18 Calinou that too
18:21 Peacock weird, bullets look to be the same as mine, does firearms work on mobf?
18:21 Menche it looks like firearms looks ahead in the direction the player is facing, finds what is in that direction, and manually decreases the hp
18:21 Menche and just spawns a particle for show
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18:22 Peacock firearmslib.lua lines 338-339:                             if (not obj.entity:is_player()) then
18:22 Peacock obj.entity:remove();
18:22 Peacock seems like it removes the bullet if the obj is not a player
18:22 Mallot1 hello everyone :)
18:23 Peacock entities ain't players
18:23 Mallot1 pentium are you here?
18:24 * Menche is having problems with meshes from DanDuncombe's game
18:24 Menche zombies are like ants
18:26 Menche still do as much damage as ever
18:26 Peacock meshes scale funny sometimes lol
18:26 Peacock probably they were already scaled (you can find that somewhere in blender's UI lol)
18:26 Menche they were working fine before
18:27 Peacock then im out of theories lol
18:27 Menche DanDuncombe: did you change the zombie model?
18:28 DanDuncombe I have now put it back to what is was in the first version.
18:29 DanDuncombe In a moment, go to the game mode post to get a sneakyimage preview of the different zombie sizes for next version :)
18:30 Menche could you make normal zombies weaker? it's impossible to kill one with a diamond sword
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18:30 Menche takes like 8-10 hits
18:31 Menche they can kill a player with half that
18:31 DanDuncombe They will have 30 hp in next version? Do you want it lower than that?
18:31 DanDuncombe Also, see screenies now!
18:32 DanDuncombe Does 20 hp sound good? Same as player?
18:32 Menche for a normal one, yeah
18:33 DanDuncombe Okay,mini ones have 10hp, normal 20hp, giant 50hp
18:33 Menche it's saying it couldn't load mobs_zombie.x
18:33 DanDuncombe I am still updatin...
18:35 DanDuncombe syncing...
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18:35 NakedFury how much they hit for? half, full, # hearts?
18:35 NakedFury this is why I hate the heart system right now
18:35 Menche 1 damage = 1/2 heart right?
18:36 DanDuncombe 1=half a heart
18:36 DanDuncombe Update now! Take out your rage! Go, go,go!
18:36 * Menche sees yet another Thumbs.db added
18:36 DanDuncombe I will be back in 2 weeks.See yah later.
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18:38 Peacock what are thumbs.db? i see these all over the place
18:38 ruskie windows thumbnail metadata
18:38 Peacock ahh
18:38 ruskie can remove it safely
18:40 Peacock im guessing windows hidden files get copied with the rest into the archives
18:44 cisoun Damn boys, almost 3000 commits !
18:47 Peacock @ 5k therell be beer and hookers for everyone :D
18:47 Peacock j/k
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18:59 Kacey aaw that is no fun Peacock
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19:04 Jordach wait what
19:04 Jordach Peacock == mauvebic
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19:04 hoodedice YO
19:05 Calinou YO DAWG
19:05 hoodedice Hmm. Been seeing the recent flames between Jordach and PilzAdam
19:06 hoodedice Is this community really that explosive?
19:06 Calinou it's as explosive as any open source community? 8D
19:06 Calinou people get emo when they don't agree with eachother
19:07 hoodedice So, this is normal?
19:07 hoodedice Wow.
19:07 Calinou sort of
19:08 hoodedice So, I'm a noob prog, as you know
19:08 Calinou same
19:08 hoodedice And I cam across this chem mod
19:09 hoodedice Straight Q - Can formspecs be made clickable?
19:09 hoodedice And, WHAT THE FUDGE ARE FORMSECS?
19:09 hoodedice *FORMSPECS
19:09 Calinou formspecs are GUIs you can create
19:09 Jordach formspecs are a specification to open menus attached to entities or blocks
19:09 Calinou ask RealBadAngel about it :D
19:10 Calinou the inventory is a formspec, too
19:10 hoodedice So, the pause menu is a formspec
19:10 hoodedice So if the inventory is clickable, then I can make one too :)
19:10 hoodedice Thanks
19:10 hoodedice Will check inventory source
19:10 Calinou pause isn't a formspec
19:11 Calinou main menu is a formspec now
19:11 hoodedice hmm.
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19:12 Peacock flying freenode? that does that mean im going to be molested by security?
19:12 DanDuncombe Do you think my zombie game should be permanent night,or normal? Also, should zombies 'burn' in the sun?
19:12 hoodedice Nah, only vamps do that
19:12 Calinou lol Peacock
19:13 hoodedice Normal, but zombies come all the time
19:13 DanDuncombe So switch between day n night, but they don't die in sun?
19:13 hoodedice Make it realistic. #irony
19:13 hoodedice Yup
19:13 hoodedice But they go away
19:13 DanDuncombe They never go till they are killed
19:14 hoodedice Watch Resident Evil #irony, I haven't watched it myself.
19:14 hoodedice Make a code for that.
19:14 hoodedice :)
19:14 DanDuncombe Hence massive server lag, and the idea that they burn in sun to remove them
19:14 hoodedice What about if they don't get human flesh for a while, they will eat each other
19:14 hoodedice ?
19:15 DanDuncombe O don't know. But day and night will be short.
19:15 DanDuncombe G'bye
19:15 hdastwb is it actually possible to farm in permanight?
19:15 hoodedice Use a greenhouse mod.
19:15 hoodedice :P
19:15 hdastwb otherwise, the only food source is half-heart apples
19:16 hoodedice With arti-sunlights
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19:19 Calinou our MinetestBot is back
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19:20 Peacock looks like Air Freenode is ejecting passengers :p
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19:23 Peacock well i have time for a beer run while freenode sorts itself out lol
19:24 whirm how do you get stainless steel dust in technic?
19:24 Calinou beer is evil
19:27 hdastwb by grinding stainless steel ingots?
19:28 Jordach holy shit
19:28 Jordach i survived the netsplit
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19:30 DanDuncombe Can someone pm, in .we format, the best smallish armoured house they have.
19:30 DanDuncombe Minetest house I mean
19:31 Jordach they found my browser, they found my browser!! http://i.imgur.com/SFB67Xg.png
19:31 hdastwb darn it; someone stole my door on Menche's zombie server
19:31 DanDuncombe Lol
19:31 DanDuncombe Did you get overrun? Also, do you see giant zombies?
19:32 hdastwb not yet
19:32 hdastwb they also blocked off my mine, so I don't think any zombies got in
19:33 DanDuncombe No giants? He probably has't updated yet then. Also,zombies do NOT spawn on stone so mines should be safe.
19:33 DanDuncombe Also,I'm coming on now
19:33 hdastwb I mainly haven't been looking outside much. . .
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19:38 Peacock <Calinou> beer is evil
19:38 Peacock maybe, but its less evil than weed and cigarettes (cut one out two months ago, the other in a month)
19:38 Calinou Jordach, "chrome derp"
19:38 Calinou lol
19:38 Peacock and beer is better than homicide under such circumstances
19:38 Calinou looks very similar :P
19:43 Peacock gotta fix these dang swoosh doors
19:44 Calinou talking about doors, I'd like to see glass doors in the default game.
19:44 Peacock good store doors
19:44 Peacock wood doors on a business looks silly, unless it's a bordello
19:46 DanDuncombe Menche: You must update your server's zombies, because they are currently 99% Invinsible. Also there is incredible lag.
19:46 Calinou invinsible? so they're both invincible and invisible at the same time? :P
19:48 DanDuncombe They are just invinCible
19:50 whirm hdastwb: and how do I do a stainless steel ingot?
19:50 hdastwb by alloy-smelting steel and chromium
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19:52 Jordach Menche, what version is your zombie server running
19:52 Menche latest git
19:52 Jordach fuck
19:52 Jordach Menche, ip please
19:52 Menche menche.servegame.com 30001
19:52 Menche i'm currently trying to get it to restart
19:53 DanDuncombe It is overrun by zombies.
19:53 Jordach one /shutdown is sufficient
19:53 DanDuncombe Jordach: Why 'fuck'?
19:53 Jordach ctrl + c in terminal too
19:53 Menche it's not running in a terminal
19:53 Jordach DanDuncombe, i dont have latest git
19:53 DanDuncombe I need to be afk for a bit.
19:53 Menche it's started by a cronjob
19:54 Menche it was lagging and wasn't processing /shutdown
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19:56 Menche fortunately, it's a very new map, so /clearobjects doesn't take that long
19:56 Peacock 0.4.7 shouldn't have the clearobjects eternity bug
19:56 Menche it only takes half an eternity now
19:57 Menche it works now; it used to crash
19:57 Peacock half of infinity is still infinity no?
19:57 Menche it takes much longer on a larger world, of course
19:57 Menche lol yeah
19:57 Peacock if it works now then its negative infinity :P
19:58 Menche wooo, 1 FPS
19:58 Peacock did you try turning it off and on? :p
19:58 Menche what?
19:59 Peacock standard tech support question :p
19:59 Menche i can't find the start button :(
19:59 Calinou ^ kim jong-un
19:59 Peacock wheres the any key???!
20:00 Peacock kim jong un... the only thing he needs to find is a gym
20:00 Peacock same goes for avery brooks and the female that played captain janeway
20:00 Menche a fat bratty kid in charge of an entire country...
20:00 Peacock how is that different from bush jr? (sans the fat)
20:01 PilzAdam Peacock, bush was elected by millions of people...
20:01 Peacock prolly the cocaine kept him skinny
20:01 Peacock well, the supreme court had something to say about it too
20:02 hdastwb (fewer millions than voted for his opponent)
20:02 Peacock i know this much: ill never vote on a computer
20:02 Calinou oh our daily atheism discussion
20:02 Peacock atheism?
20:02 Peacock did i miss something lol
20:03 Peacock i must be the only atheist on earth who doesn't like disussing it lol
20:03 Jordach Menche, did it crash again
20:03 nalkri There's not much to say about atheism really
20:03 Peacock it always ends up with "you think you got everything figured out" blah blah lol
20:04 NakedFury how do you guys go from cocaine to voting to gods?
20:04 nalkri Believe in any deities? Nope. Me neither
20:04 Peacock i believe in being surprised lol
20:04 Peacock i dont know whats gonna happen when i die and neither does anyone
20:04 PilzAdam NakedFury, thats #minetest :-)
20:04 NakedFury yeah Pilzaddam and they keep talking about it
20:05 NakedFury didnt we have a no religion or politic rule here?
20:05 Peacock calinou brought it up :p
20:05 Peacock doesnt opensource and copyleft fall under politics?
20:05 Calinou karma pls
20:05 Peacock its hard to divide the two
20:06 Peacock you cant mention opensource without saying "x corporation is evil" or "y law is stupid"
20:06 NakedFury ok what is there to say about it that we already in this channel dont know from the other countles times it has been mentioned?
20:06 PilzAdam "Off-topic is allowed, but excessive use of it is disallowed."
20:06 Peacock i have no idea lol like i said, calinou brought up atheism, not me :p
20:07 * Jordach calls that rule bullshit
20:07 Calinou like rule 34 or 63
20:07 Jordach zing
20:07 Calinou "zing" is a registered trademark of notch
20:07 Calinou DanDuncombe, away nicks are bad
20:07 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, away nicks are bad
20:08 DanDuncombe SHould I make zombies rarer? There always seems to be millions of them...
20:08 Peacock DanDuncombe, away nicks are bad
20:08 * Jordach rapidly hits his PC - load the media dumbfuck
20:08 Peacock now beetlejuice should show up
20:08 DanDuncombe PilzAdam, you are bad.
20:08 DanDuncombe No offence
20:08 Calinou Jordach, SSD for the win
20:08 Jordach DanDuncombe, isnt that the point of a ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE.
20:08 Jordach Calinou, im talking about the minetestserver
20:09 DanDuncombe But there are so many that you get nothing but lag.
20:09 Calinou ah
20:09 Calinou go to servers with remote_media :P
20:09 Peacock *offense
20:09 Calinou thank you Peacock for correcting him
20:09 Peacock you were thinking of defence (uk spelling)
20:09 DanDuncombe I was thinking maybe,normalzombies stay the same, but giants and minis are rarer?
20:10 Peacock dan, why not use the bones mod to turn dead players to zombies?
20:12 DanDuncombe I was thinking of that,but maybe at a later date.
20:12 DanDuncombe Also, amazing news: When I was making zombies rarer,I actually was making them more common by mistake.
20:13 DanDuncombe How would I utilise the bones mod,I wonder? Somehow use an abm,or something, I guess.
20:13 DanDuncombe But I want just 1 to spawn
20:13 Peacock minetest.register_on_dieplayer(func(ObjectRef))
20:13 Peacock ^ Called when a player dies
20:14 Peacock then use player:getpos() to place a zombie
20:14 DanDuncombe Could you pastebin the necessary 'spawn a zombie on death' code?
20:14 Peacock does die player give the pos they died at or respawned at?
20:14 Peacock i didn't write it i just thought of it
20:14 Peacock i used something similar for a dynamic spawnpoint
20:15 Peacock since people keep wrecking spawn lol
20:15 Peacock or building right next to it lol
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20:15 Peacock sentries machine-gunning down new players as they arrive
20:16 DanDuncombe Good for them. Teach thema lesson.
20:16 DanDuncombe Are the sentries automatic?
20:16 Peacock yep
20:16 DanDuncombe Are they Aimable?@
20:16 Peacock i tried that
20:16 Calinou "aimable" in french means "lovable"
20:16 Calinou lol
20:16 Peacock attach causes player to shrink
20:16 NakedFury make spawn and the area around it protected from building on.
20:16 Calinou i wouldn't try :D
20:16 DanDuncombe Just use automatic ones. It is easiest and best.
20:17 Peacock i was thinking of a hardcoded spawn and narrow corridors to get around the map
20:17 DanDuncombe Wasn't there an aimable cannon mod?
20:17 Peacock thing is i wanted gun that people can't carry around, but can aim (like machine gun in wolfenstein where i got the idea)
20:18 Peacock tho im quite happy with Aliens (movie) type sentries, they rotate like the real thing
20:18 DanDuncombe Yeah. Like the old cannon mod
20:18 DanDuncombe Do your sentries turn to look at what they are shooting?
20:19 Peacock yep
20:19 Peacock you can get code for that from any of the mob mods
20:19 DanDuncombe Automtically?
20:19 Peacock yep
20:20 Peacock though since entities are more intense than plain nodes i reduced their range so ppl wouldn't go crazy with them
20:20 DanDuncombe Actually, I won't bother doing that.
20:20 DanDuncombe Otherwise my sentries would shoot themselves.
20:20 Peacock only if they target all entities instead of just players
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20:21 Peacock and you can always read the entity to make sure its not a sentry
20:21 DanDuncombe True
20:21 DanDuncombe Can someone do a pull request with that feature for my Camo Mod?
20:22 DanDuncombe Also, with my zombies game, does changing the spawn thing at the bottom, when higher do they spawn more or less?
20:22 DanDuncombe *at the bottom of the zombie's code
20:24 DanDuncombe 'Spawn_inverse_chance = xxxx
20:26 Peacock is there a mod that has dark tinted glass? all ive seen is glass with colored borders
20:26 DanDuncombe Okay, goodbye everyone.I amnow leaving for the Holidays. Goodbye.
20:26 Calinou stained_glass, Peacock
20:26 Calinou bye DanDuncombe
20:27 nalkri On a related note, can glass colour light?
20:27 Calinou nope
20:27 DanDuncombe GOODBYE GUYS!
20:27 Calinou it can't tint what's behind, theorically possible with shaders
20:27 DanDuncombe 3
20:27 nalkri Enjoy your holiday
20:27 DanDuncombe 2
20:27 DanDuncombe 1
20:27 DanDuncombe BYE BYE!
20:27 nalkri Shame, can't have blood red windows for my temple then
20:27 * Menche counts the number of messages it took DanDuncombe to say goodbye
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20:28 Peacock im trying to recreate a landmark from montreal lol
20:28 Peacock Tour de la Bourse
20:29 Peacock i dont think it houses a stock exchange anymore tho lol
20:29 Calinou that's what she said, Peacock
20:29 Peacock lol not that again :p
20:29 Calinou Peacock, look up "bourse" in a french dictionary and you'll see
20:29 Calinou it doesn't only mean "bank" or something like that 8D
20:30 Peacock ironically, for a french guy, i failed french but got flying colors for english XD
20:30 Peacock though they cant decide what kind of french to teach in quebec
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20:37 whirm is it possible to craft stainless steel
20:37 whirm ?
20:37 Peacock which mod?
20:38 Calinou whirm, technic?
20:38 Calinou but there is no such thing in the default game
20:38 whirm Peacock. Calinou: yup, technic
20:38 Peacock well if RBA put it in, there must be a way to get it
20:38 whirm I'm looking at the code and I can't see a recipe for it
20:39 Calinou there is
20:39 Calinou but I don't remember, I don't use technic
20:39 whirm https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/blob/master/technic_worldgen/crafts.lua
20:39 Peacock y u no have craft guide?
20:39 Calinou craft_guide is good, yeah
20:40 whirm I have it. from technic game, and it only shows how to make it from stainless steel dist
20:40 whirm dust
20:40 whirm which I can't craft either
20:41 Peacock what does craft guide say for dust then?
20:41 Peacock i think you have to use some sort of grinder
20:41 Peacock things you get from machines probably dont have crafts
20:42 Peacock but RBA knows more about it than me
20:42 whirm but the grinder needs electricity
20:42 Peacock well thats your problem :p
20:42 whirm and I need stainless steel to build the transformer to build the switcher to be able to use electric stuff
20:42 Peacock if you got technic then you gotta follow the directions
20:43 whirm it is a cyclic dependency
20:43 Peacock i dont play w/ technic either :/
20:44 Peacock nothing against it, but the chain depency is too much for my poor dualcore
20:44 Peacock *dependency
20:44 whirm meh, I guess ill get the stainless steel ingots in creative mode then
20:44 whirm thanks for the help
20:45 whirm I tried putting iron and coal in an alloy thingie, but no dice
20:46 Peacock RBA should be on later
20:46 kahrl whirm: try putting chromium ingots and steel ingots in the alloy furnace
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20:47 Peacock there he is lol
20:48 RealBadAngel hi folks
20:49 Kacey hi rba
20:49 Peacock RBA whirm is having trouble figuring out technic crafts
20:49 Kacey ShadowNinja found a bug with supply converters
20:50 whirm kahrl: ok, Ill try
20:51 whirm RealBadAngel: the stainless steel ingot recipe doesn't show in the craft guide
20:52 RealBadAngel i will check it right away whirm
20:52 whirm thx :D
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20:57 RealBadAngel whirm, a mystery, i can see all 3 craft recipes there
20:57 Calinou a crafting recipe, wrapped in a mystery!
20:58 whirm RealBadAngel: I see: stainless steel block with no recipe for it, stainless steel dust with no recipe for it, stainless steel ingot with cooking from stainless steel dust as the only recipe
20:59 RealBadAngel are you sure you have latest technic?
21:00 whirm git rev-parse HEAD
21:00 whirm db695ceed8affba6a326875d6c32663e7a2be13b
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21:02 Peacock didn't know git could give head
21:02 whirm Peacock: you would be surprised :D
21:03 Peacock explains why its so popular tho lol
21:05 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-07-23#i_3215282 what did you mean there?
21:05 PilzAdam I wasnt discussing anything
21:07 whirm RealBadAngel: any suggestion?
21:07 Peacock was prolly referring to another occasion
21:08 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, it usual when we start to discuss things you run PilzAdam.Shutdown()
21:08 PilzAdam but we havent discussed anything
21:09 RealBadAngel i were talkin to you
21:09 RealBadAngel but never mind
21:10 Peacock PilzAdam.Suggestion(input)
21:10 Peacock input = nil
21:10 Peacock return false
21:10 Peacock end
21:10 kahrl as you can see, PA reads the logs. IRC is asynchronous.
21:10 Peacock that function?
21:11 Peacock :P
21:11 PilzAdam Peacock, add  print("Doesnt fit the voxel idea")
21:11 Peacock lol yeah
21:11 Peacock but alot of whats already in the game could fit that too
21:12 kahrl mmh, alots
21:12 Peacock thats why i dont think it makes a very good argument at this point
21:12 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest
21:12 kahrl alot of voxels
21:12 Peacock half my crap is nodeboxes by now lol
21:12 kahrl eww
21:12 PilzAdam that game takes the voxel idea as a core rule
21:13 Peacock well ive been playing a long time :p
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21:14 Peacock still, ppl seem to like it on my server
21:14 Peacock they think im nuts but they like it lol
21:14 PilzAdam people like everything
21:14 Peacock not everything, unless you add it all up
21:15 PilzAdam that doesnt say that its good in from a gameplay point of view
21:15 Peacock obvs it always depends on the idea
21:15 PilzAdam ehm, thats good grammar ;-)
21:15 Peacock if you can toggle it off, its not as bad as something youre stuck with
21:16 Peacock im not particularly crazy about item drops, the mess it made on my server within two days, but at least i can turn it off
21:17 * Jordach has a variety of skins, winter, summer, autumn / spring
21:17 Peacock youre not still running 4seasons i hope? :P
21:17 whirm kahrl: I tried with chromium and steel but nope
21:18 Peacock if someone wants to remake 4seasons with better code, by all means, it was one of my first lol
21:18 whirm kahrl: ahh, sorry, it took a while but it works!
21:18 Jordach Peacock, nope.avi
21:19 Peacock F1 or F2 should hide player names too, ruins screens :(
21:19 Jordach heh
21:20 * Jordach keeps thinking Peacock is a different person
21:20 Peacock but you PMd me earlier lol
21:20 Jordach ikr
21:20 Peacock if you can bruteforce the password to mauvebic go ahead :P
21:20 Peacock i got locked out after n times lol
21:21 Peacock tho maybe my IP will change when i move next week
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21:28 Peacock out of curiosity, someone called PilzAnal joined my server yesterday and started griefing, im guessing that wasn't PilzAdam?
21:28 PilzAdam he also joineed this channel some time ago, got banned
21:29 Peacock aiight i banned him/her too lol
21:29 PilzAdam and it wasnt me
21:29 Peacock i doubt youd pick that name lol
21:29 Peacock you seem to have a weird fanclub tho
21:30 * PilzAdam is famous
21:30 PilzAdam :D
21:31 Peacock can people connect to minetest through proxies?
21:31 PilzAdam why not?
21:31 Peacock didn't know you could with udp
21:32 Peacock i ban other players and magically Guests login two seconds later lol
21:33 nalkri You can proxy anythingg
21:33 nalkri *anything
21:33 nalkri If the proxy is willing
21:34 Peacock i have a hard time setting it up for browsers lol
21:34 Peacock since the ubuntu forum hack..
21:34 nalkri s/You/One/
21:34 Peacock i wouldn't touch TOR with a 20ft yardstick lol
21:34 Peacock govt's watch that shit
21:34 Peacock more than regular traffic
21:35 PilzAdam Jordach, paranoid?
21:35 nalkri TOR connected to trusted hidden services isn't totally horrible
21:35 Peacock besides do you cops knocking at your door because ppl use it to buy dope or CP
21:35 Peacock *do you want
21:35 Jordach PilzAdam, i used the secret code so that griefers cant see a technique
21:36 Peacock i use hi freq sounds to annoy griefers into quitting lol
21:40 Jordach lol
21:40 Jordach isnt that torture
21:41 Peacock probably but so is fixing spawn lol
21:42 Peacock thinking of making spawn this round room with grate flooring and lava basement
21:42 Peacock grief that and die lol
21:42 Jordach Peacock, banning lava
21:42 Jordach grief the spawn and touch the lava = ban
21:42 Peacock i already removed all the liquids from creative
21:42 Jordach includes other players
21:43 Peacock i give it to ppl manually if i trust them
21:44 Peacock havent given anyone multinode access yet, could fuck things up seriously lol
21:44 Jordach no one knows how to use multinode
21:45 Peacock its pure GUI by now
21:45 Peacock like, in the inventory
21:45 Peacock the node it uses is the 1st one in your inv
21:45 Peacock the inv itself sticks the newest at the front instead of end
21:46 Peacock otherwise your constatly moving stuff from end to first 8
21:50 Peacock any resemblance? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Tour_de_la_Bourse_Montreal.jpg --->  http://s8.postimg.org/pbeewx1md/screenshot_384963682.jpg
21:51 nalkri The first one looks like a cheap knockoff of the second
21:51 Peacock which ones the cheap one? lol
21:51 Peacock the real or the voxel
21:51 nalkri The one with the round tower next to it is better
21:52 nalkri I think the other one is a copy
21:52 Peacock allright then im doing good :-) thanks
21:52 nalkri It was a slightly tongue in cheek comment, but a real compliment :)
21:53 Peacock a touch of my hometown :p
21:54 nalkri I think I'd recognise it if I'd seen the original
21:54 nalkri Which is probably the main thing
21:54 Peacock the first img is the original?
21:55 nalkri I mean if I'd seen the building
21:55 nalkri And was wandering around Minetest and saw your building
21:56 Peacock unfortunately i dont know of any other montrealers who play MT :/
21:56 Peacock i also lived in Toronto for ten years, i know of one player from around there
21:56 Jordach i know three norfolk people on the internet
21:56 Jordach and all three play minetest
21:57 Peacock i should do the CN tower next :-)
22:05 Peacock dang stack overflow, too many builders building lol
22:16 frogcrush Hi, does anyone know why my server keeps crashing from the following error:  ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error running function 'on_step': /usr/share/minetest/builtin/deprecated.lua:41: bad argument #6 to 'func' (string expected, got no value)
22:16 frogcrush ?
22:16 Peacock thats a weird one :/
22:17 Peacock what version mT?
22:17 frogcrush 0.4.7
22:17 frogcrush On Arch Linux, from the Community repo
22:18 Menche wow, didn't notice minetest was in community!
22:18 Peacock what is argument #6?
22:18 PilzAdam frogcrush, what mods do you have?
22:18 Jordach http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/ac-cf-10pm/
22:18 Jordach chilled night music :P
22:18 frogcrush animals  boats    farmingplus  fishing    locked_sign  money       moreores   noncubic  pipeworks  player_radar  technic      weather
22:18 frogcrush betterhud   classes  firearms     homedecor  mesecons     moreblocks  moretrees  oil       plantlife  sea           unifieddyes
22:19 * Jordach realised we can spam as we please; shadowbot aint here
22:19 Peacock hard to find the error among that lol but one of the mods is using deprecated function
22:19 frogcrush lol, time for some trial and error, I guess
22:19 Peacock and not the right way (tm)
22:19 PilzAdam frogcrush, replace all "minetest.env:" with "minetest." in that mods, then you get a proper backtrace
22:20 Jordach five bucks it's the oil mod
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22:20 Peacock makes you wish lua had variable variable names lol
22:21 Peacock can you do minetest.env = minetest ?
22:23 frogcrush Jordach: +1 to you, it was the oil mod
22:23 PilzAdam https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6091
22:23 Jordach boom, five bucks
22:23 Peacock oil mod? thats ancient yeah lol
22:24 Peacock might as well just define oil liquid and use pipeworks
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22:27 hdastwb RBA, what are your thoughts on this: https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/pull/65 ?
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23:14 Jordach wtf
23:14 Jordach serious wtf
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23:14 Jordach closed FL Studio, reopened it, the sounds i made in the last audio buffer have returned
23:15 Jordach oh, vlc was still going
23:32 Jordach -NickServ- Jordach_!~Jordach@host86-165-180-60.range86-165.btcentralplus.com has just authenticated as you (jordach) -- er what
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23:36 PilzAdam Jordach, someone got your password?
23:36 Jordach PilzAdam, that's my ip
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23:57 PilzAdam bye

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