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00:00 PilzAdam its very helpful if you know what to ignore
00:01 Yrol_Denjeah °nods°
00:10 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on PilzAdam's head
00:10 * PilzAdam does a mushroom sound
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00:15 Menche i have a bug on my server where nodes aren't removed from a player's inventory when placed
00:19 Yrol_Denjeah Has anyone yet solved the "ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=x: failed to emerge player" error?
00:19 PilzAdam Yrol_Denjeah, that one is caused when a player with the name of the joining player already exists
00:19 Yrol_Denjeah ah!
00:20 Yrol_Denjeah I get it when i try to start a singleplayer game, but when i use ESC to get back to the menu, and THEN try again, it works nicely
00:21 Yrol_Denjeah Maybe after exiting MT something gets stuck somehwere, so then when restarting, it thinks im still in the game?
00:21 Menche players have infinite materials on my server
00:21 PilzAdam can you look at the output of the infostream?
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00:22 Menche me? the actions show up in the output
00:22 PilzAdam no, Yrol_Denjeah
00:22 Yrol_Denjeah oh
00:23 Yrol_Denjeah what is an infostream?
00:23 PilzAdam Menche, do you have any mod that overrides handle_node_drops()?
00:23 Menche yeah
00:23 PilzAdam Yrol_Denjeah, start minetest with --info in the console
00:23 Menche i think
00:23 Yrol_Denjeah willdo
00:23 Menche i believe specialties does
00:23 PilzAdam Menche, oh, sorry, you mean placing
00:24 PilzAdam Menche, if register_on_dignode() returns true, then no item is taken; can you look in your mods for that?
00:25 PilzAdam the creative mod in minetest_game does it if creative_mode in minetest.conf is true
00:26 Yrol_Denjeah PilzAdam, i get the error "ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player" + a gazillion of "INFO[main]: Client: Server serialization format invalid or not initialized. Skipping incoming command=67"
00:27 Yrol_Denjeah PilzAdam, it must have to do with a change in minetest.conf, but i dont know which
00:28 PilzAdam it happens in singleplayer?
00:28 PilzAdam what exact minetest version do you have?
00:28 PilzAdam what OS do you use?
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00:31 Yrol_Denjeah win xp pro 32 bit sp3, MT v0.4.7, in singleplayer, it doesnt happen without mods, hm, this is going to take a long time to check
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00:32 Yrol_Denjeah the depencies are ok, i checked that already twice, also, iots not the player_rader mod (i checked that first, as it seemd the most likely one )
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00:33 PilzAdam I dont think this is caused by mods
00:34 Yrol_Denjeah Hm, you think if using mods it makes the game only more vulnerable to the error?
00:35 PilzAdam hm, maybe a mod forces the client to send something to the server before INIT2 is recieved
00:35 Yrol_Denjeah ah
00:35 PilzAdam but I dunno if that is actually possible
00:35 PilzAdam can you reproduce it with --verbose
00:35 PilzAdam +?
00:36 PilzAdam and pastebin the full log please
00:36 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5073
00:37 Yrol_Denjeah hm, i am not registered in the forum
00:38 PilzAdam just create the debug.txt and use pastebin.com or so
00:39 Yrol_Denjeah dammit, it also happens with the vanilla minetest.conf
00:39 Yrol_Denjeah it must be one of the mods then
00:40 Menche PilzAdam: on first glance i don't see any register_on_dignode() function that could return true
00:41 Menche or register_on_placenode() for that matter
00:41 PilzAdam Menche, and you are sure that its not simply lag?
00:41 Yrol_Denjeah oh boy... this will be a loooong log
00:41 PilzAdam Yrol_Denjeah, yep
00:42 PilzAdam you need to know what to look for
00:42 Yrol_Denjeah if i dont die before its finished ;o)
00:43 Menche PilzAdam: i'm pretty sure it isn't lag
00:43 PilzAdam Menche, how often does it occur?
00:43 Menche every node i place
00:43 Menche other players have noticed it too
00:45 sokomine yes, confirmed that it's not lag
00:46 Menche now, it *is* sort of convenient while i'm repairing spawn ;)
00:46 sokomine haha! abusing bugs on your own server :)
00:46 PilzAdam Menche, can you teleport somewhere where I can test it?
00:47 Menche huh?
00:47 PilzAdam Im on your server
00:47 Menche yeah, teleport?
00:47 Yrol_Denjeah phew.. finished
00:47 PilzAdam I dont have the teleport priv
00:48 Menche ok...
00:48 Menche not sure why that was needed
00:48 sokomine i've thrown some stuff in front of you
00:48 PilzAdam the area arround me is mostly protected
00:48 sokomine building ought to be possible not too far from where you stand
00:48 Yrol_Denjeah °snorts° Great, it didnt got written into the debug.txt because of that vanilla minetest.conf °sigh°
00:48 Menche PilzAdam: your player skin is all borked
00:49 Yrol_Denjeah Ok, different aproach... i jsut test each mod
00:50 Menche oh, you have a skin in the player_textures
00:51 n4x Menche: what mods do you have in your server? :P
00:51 n4x i wonder
00:51 PilzAdam Menche, whats the output of /set creative_mode
00:51 PilzAdam (in-game)
00:51 Menche PilzAdam: false
00:51 Menche and there's no creative inventory
00:52 Menche n4x: there
00:52 Menche 's quite a few
00:52 Menche check http://servers.minetest.net for the full list
00:52 Menche (most of the mods are part of mesecons modpack)
00:54 PilzAdam Menche, would it be possible that you add print("[Debug] take_item = " .. dump(take_item)) at line 224 in builtin/item.lua?
00:55 Menche ok
00:56 Menche done, restarting
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00:59 Menche "[Debug] take_item = true" is printed
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00:59 PilzAdam not a single false?
01:01 Menche no
01:01 PilzAdam ok, then its not a mod
01:01 * Menche cleans up the nodes he spammed over the road to test that
01:03 Menche server is running very latest git
01:03 PilzAdam seems to be a deep rooted problem
01:04 Menche should i try checking out earlier commits to see where it started?
01:04 PilzAdam that would be helpful
01:05 Menche started up another world and tested,
01:05 Menche the problem occurs, and take_item is false
01:06 Menche but it's true on the main server
01:07 Menche d'oh nevermind, the secondary server is creative
01:07 Yrol_Denjeah PilzAdam, progress report after testing the 50 mods i use: its your tnt mod that causes the error, but only together with one or more other mods, im trying to find out now with which...
01:08 Yrol_Denjeah uhm.. or it isnt that one, jeeeez :o8
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01:24 Yrol_Denjeah hmmm, it seems, pasting 22 kb pof text into pastebin using mozilla firefox kinda uses 150% of my pcs ressources oO
01:27 Yrol_Denjeah Wow and it actually crashes firefox, simply by pasting it into the window of pastebin, not even sending it away...
01:27 Yrol_Denjeah In what year do we live? 1980???
01:28 Exio4 wfm
01:28 Exio4 what cpu do you have? a 1980 one? ;)
01:29 Yrol_Denjeah nah, its one of those really supernew c<64 II
01:29 Exio4 what?
01:29 Yrol_Denjeah you must be very young then ;oP
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01:49 Yrol_Denjeah PilzAdam, i give up... i am fairly good at bug hunting, but with the inconsistencies of MT and the apparent randomness, paired with my lack of knowledge of how MT works, not to mention the failure of MT to produce proper logs, its just frustrating.
01:51 Yrol_Denjeah And you are probably in bed already since an hour without notifying me, so..... °shrugs°
01:52 ShadowNinja Yrol_Denjeah: No, PilzAdam logs off when he leaves. Unless he forgot.
01:59 Yrol_Denjeah °nods°
02:02 PilzAdam I dont really know what to say without the logs
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02:04 ShadowNinja Yrol_Denjeah: Linux? What is the issue you have?
02:04 Yrol_Denjeah ShadowNinja, winxp32.
02:05 ShadowNinja Hmmm, well if you want to paste the debug.txt we only need the last part with the error. And don't use pastebin.com.
02:06 ShadowNinja (Try pastebin.ubuntu.com)
02:06 ShadowNinja Yrol_Denjeah: ^
02:06 PilzAdam wait a second...
02:06 PilzAdam <Yrol_Denjeah> PilzAdam, i get the error "ERROR[ServerThread]: Server: peer_id=2: failed to emerge player" + a gazillion of "INFO[main]: Client: Server serialization format invalid or not initialized. Skipping incoming command=67"
02:07 PilzAdam that command is TOCLIENT_DETACHED_INVENTORY
02:07 PilzAdam https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/831
02:07 PilzAdam seems to be related
02:07 Yrol_Denjeah i -think- its caused by unified inventory + some other thing
02:07 PilzAdam although the issue says that minetest crashes...
02:10 Yrol_Denjeah hmmmm
02:11 Yrol_Denjeah actually... i DO use vanessas 512 px texture pack
02:11 Yrol_Denjeah sorry 256px
02:12 PilzAdam can someone test putting everything in the minetest.register_on_joinplayer() calls in UI into an minetest.after(1.0, ...)?
02:12 PilzAdam I need to sleep now, cant assist you with that :-/
02:12 Yrol_Denjeah its probalbly hopeless anyways
02:12 Yrol_Denjeah have agood night and thanks for trying to help :o)
02:12 PilzAdam thx, good night
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02:36 Yrol_Denjeah °waves°
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02:40 * NekoGloopMkIII flips freenode
02:41 Ego Laggy Freenode
02:42 NekoGloopMkIII Wouldn't be so bad if the ping timeout wasn't outrageous.
02:42 Ego 240 is generally industry standard.
02:42 Ego 4 minutes seems pretty ideal.
02:43 NekoGloopMkIII I find 128 more often
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03:03 MissValeska Hiya All
03:04 sokomine hi
03:04 MissValeska How are you?
03:04 sokomine hm, fine, thanks. and you?
03:04 MissValeska I have some suggestions for minetest by the way
03:04 MissValeska I'm kay
03:04 Exio4 what suggestions?
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03:05 MissValeska Well, I think the texture needs to really really be changed
03:05 MissValeska It really doesn't look good at all
03:05 MissValeska It doesn't show how awesome minetest really is
03:05 MissValeska It just makes it look, I dunno, Kinda meh as it currently is
03:05 NekoGloopMkII what texture
03:05 MissValeska The default texture is meh
03:06 NekoGloopMkII ...
03:06 NekoGloopMkII Which default texture.
03:06 MissValeska I don't comprehend your request
03:06 Exio4 what default texture, stone? dirt?
03:06 NekoGloopMkII Which default texture is meh?
03:06 Exio4 grass?
03:06 Exio4 inb4 all
03:06 MissValeska No, The entire texture
03:06 Ego inafter all
03:06 Exio4 ?
03:07 Exio4 what entire texture
03:07 MissValeska When people say texture, They mean all of the textures omg
03:07 MissValeska The default textures do not look good gosh
03:07 NekoGloopMkII Exio4, inb4 all is fufilled
03:07 MissValeska Grass stone what ever, The default txtures do not look good
03:07 MissValeska It doesn't show how awesome minetest is
03:07 NekoGloopMkII Then go install a texture pack
03:07 MissValeska bye
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03:07 Ego Go make some new ones and give them to t...
03:07 Ego Okay
03:08 Menche good luck getting a pull request with new textures merged
03:08 NekoGloopMkII s/ with new textures//
03:08 Menche lol
03:08 Exio4 this is like i'm the only who likes most of MT default textures :(
03:08 NekoGloopMkII I like it too
03:09 Menche i think it's fine. it's a whole lot better than it was before
03:09 NekoGloopMkII Hell, i contributed to it.
03:12 arsdragonfly 0.3.1 is still available in the Ubuntu repo,in which the texture looks really terrible
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03:12 Menche and the 0.3.1 textures are better than the ones before
03:13 arsdragonfly the trees look like something else that is nasty
03:13 arsdragonfly oh really?
03:13 sokomine i like the trees in current mt
03:14 arsdragonfly yea the current one is pretty much better
03:16 arsdragonfly imho if there had ever been worse textures before 0.3.1, a pull request made up of something a 5-year-old kid doodled may get merged :-P
03:18 sokomine the old wooden planks texture was nice as well. i'm glad it exists. it was useful for my mod
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03:20 Menche i sort of liked the old cobblestone texture
03:21 Exio4 the "bricky" texture?
03:22 Menche it looked like it was made of a few rough chunks of rock
03:22 Menche could have been smoothed out a bit; i liked the general shape of the lines
03:23 Menche i wouldn't have described it as "bricky"
03:24 NekoGloopMkII Well it's stone brick now
03:24 Menche not that one, i was refering to the 0.3.3 one
03:25 NekoGloopMkII oh.
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03:27 NekoGloopMkII never played 0.3.3
03:27 NekoGloopMkII and never played 0.3.1 long enough to get cobble
03:27 Menche 0.3.3 is just 0.3.1 with a couple of bugfixes
03:28 NekoGloopMkII mmmm, ok.
03:28 NekoGloopMkII Don't have 0.3.1 installed here.
03:29 Exio4 never played 0.3.x here
03:29 Exio4 started with 0.4.3 but didn't look around much until i saw Taoki around talking about implementing 3d meshes and so for players and entities
03:30 Exio4 then i started with some curiosity to stalk the cool people here ;P
03:30 Exio4 anyway, i just realized it is getting late
03:30 Exio4 good night
03:30 arsdragonfly night
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04:32 jojoa1997 Hello
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06:25 GCHQ Is there a way to get the name of the block I'm looking at?
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07:40 Tekk_ where are the libraries to link in specified in CMake? Haven't messed around with it before and trying to get minetest to compile on openbsd :P
07:41 Tekk_ iirc -lrt isn't needed, and in fact messes up the build
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08:00 GassyBritish Hello
08:00 GassyBritish Everybody died]
08:00 Tekk_ GassyBritish: seems that way
08:01 GassyBritish Ohh Hello
08:01 * GassyBritish Finds the body of a alive person
08:02 GCHQ I'm not dead exactly
08:03 GassyBritish Another alive one
08:03 GCHQ I'm just wondering what I should build
08:04 GassyBritish On Minetest?
08:04 GCHQ Yeah
08:04 Miner_48er how much experience do you have?
08:05 GCHQ Not a lot, so I'm just pootling about mining and building a tower right now
08:05 Tekk_ right now I'm semi just trying to get minetest to build. I'm not overly familiar with cmake which is annoying
08:05 GCHQ As in all the rock I dig goes into the tower
08:05 GassyBritish Why don't you make a Map as (No Offence) most of the maps on the forum took people 2 minutes to 1 hour to make.  Somebody needs to make a map that has alot of effort put into it (Like Minecraft custom maps)
08:06 Miner_48er what type of tower?
08:06 GCHQ Currently it's just an enclosed spiran stair
08:06 GCHQ But I plan to put rooms on top when it's a little taller
08:06 GCHQ Rock factories, arboreta, that kind of thing
08:06 Miner_48er cool
08:07 GCHQ *spiral
08:18 GassyBritish DERP MODE <ON> [OFF]
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08:21 GassyBritish Hello Calinou
08:21 Calinou hi
08:22 Tekk_ hey Calinou, how familiar are you with the build process?
08:23 Calinou build process? you mean compilation?
08:23 Calinou it's not that hard
08:24 Tekk_ not compilation, but messing around with the cmake files
08:24 Calinou why would you want to do that?
08:24 Tekk_ I need to get rid of the -lrt to get it to link on openbsd, but I can't track down where that's added onto the cflags
08:25 * GassyBritish Prentends to understand
08:25 Calinou *OpenBSD shrug*
08:25 Tekk_ the specific os doesn't matter too much, I just need to find where to remove the -lrt from linkign
08:25 Tekk_ linking*
08:32 JamesTait Good morning all, happy International Criminal Justice Day! :-D
08:35 GassyBritish Morning JamesTait
08:35 JamesTait GassyBritish, o/
08:38 JamesTait I never pushed him! You can't prove it!
08:38 JamesTait Vombie got him!
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10:29 WiseOldMan Aren't there any mobs in the core game?
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10:30 proller no
10:30 WiseOldMan Oh, okay. Thank you.
10:31 WiseOldMan What would happen if I download both the Simple Mob mod and that MOB framework?
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10:36 proller will work
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10:49 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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11:03 DanDuncombe Calinou, does moreblocks depend on moreores
11:03 Calinou no
11:04 DanDuncombe Ok, thanks. May I use Moreblocks in my Cities game?
11:04 DanDuncombe As an included mod, that is.
11:06 Calinou yes
11:07 DanDuncombe Thankyou.
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11:08 DanDuncombe I am going to give the name of all the mod authors next to their mods on the list of mods on the forum post. I assume this is a good idea.
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11:12 john_minetest Hello everypony!
11:12 * Zeg9 puts a unicorn on john_minetest's head
11:13 * john_minetest has better wlan connection now
11:14 john_minetest I should really write the book "Using unicorns to extend the wlan range - a practical guide". So many people doing it wrong...
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11:18 WiseOldMan I always get a black screen when I disconnect and then reconnect to a server
11:18 WiseOldMan The game seems responsive though
11:18 WiseOldMan I can mine, but I see nothing, except the item menu
11:19 WiseOldMan Could it be that the character is spawning underground ? :P
11:19 Zeg9 probably
11:20 WiseOldMan Does the location change upon logout and then log in?
11:20 Zeg9 it shouldn't
11:20 Zeg9 But if you can mine, it should remove the node you're inside
11:22 WiseOldMan It's not a location issue. I just checked the parameters, 0.2, 5.5, 6.5. Remained the same after logout and relogin, but the screen is now black
11:22 DanDuncombe Is this lag? I can move, break and place nodes, and say commands, however commands never take effect, and none of the buttons in unified_inventory work.
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11:26 sfan5 hi
11:26 WiseOldMan Hello
11:27 Calinou DanDuncombe: formspecs are server-side
11:27 Calinou so you're lagging
11:29 WiseOldMan I realized what's going on
11:30 WiseOldMan This is an interesting bug
11:30 Calinou old interesting bug*
11:30 WiseOldMan When the player logs in again, he spawns normally but quickly falls
11:31 WiseOldMan Ignoring some blocks and ending up underground
11:31 Calinou never happened to me
11:31 WiseOldMan I thought it was a rendering issue
11:31 WiseOldMan But then I logged in to my server twice, with two clients
11:31 WiseOldMan One client was simply watching
11:32 WiseOldMan And I saw the other client fall below as it re logged in
11:32 WiseOldMan After digging I found the other player underground
11:32 WiseOldMan And the screen is no longer black
11:32 WiseOldMan I just downloaded the game so this is very weird, I didn't make any modifications
11:33 WiseOldMan Not sure whether this is a coincidence, but the client stopped falling when it touched stone blocks
11:33 WiseOldMan basically it ignored dirt
11:37 WiseOldMan Are mods server-sided?
11:39 proller yes
11:39 Calinou all the mods, yes
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11:51 PilzAdam windows sucks
11:51 Exio4 it doesn't
11:51 PilzAdam I just booted it and had to wait 40 minutes for it to install 1 update
11:52 Calinou >windows updates
11:52 Calinou youdontsay.jpg
11:53 Exio4 people with cracked windows doesn't have that problem!
11:56 Calinou but it gets cold at winer
11:56 Calinou winteer
11:56 Calinou -e
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12:03 DanDuncombe If it's slow at updating get better internet :)
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12:14 * arsdragonfly just installed cracked windows
12:14 GCHQ What's the recipe for that?
12:15 GCHQ :p
12:15 arsdragonfly and the fucking intelligent installer formatted my ext4 partition and installed windows on it
12:15 arsdragonfly I deserve it anyway
12:16 arsdragonfly dunno
12:16 arsdragonfly and it doesn't taste good :-(
12:16 GCHQ I always unplug non-windows drives before installing
12:16 GCHQ Just to be safe
12:17 arsdragonfly I was installing on the same drive
12:18 arsdragonfly preserved a partition for it
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12:30 john_minetest Running a program on 4000 loop executions per second. 1 frame flip per second so 4000 FPS!
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12:33 Calinou <arsdragonfly> and it doesn't taste good :-(
12:33 Calinou windows isn't a pony
12:33 Calinou also, enjoy your spyware :>
12:33 Calinou cracked windows can be very very bad
12:34 arsdragonfly pony?
12:34 arsdragonfly yup i know that
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12:34 arsdragonfly just to play league of legends on it
12:38 john_minetest lkjlkjlkjlkjlkjlkjlkjlkjlkjlkj
12:38 john_minetest Lol, that sounds like a pony running if you type it fast with 3 fingers
12:39 Zeg9 arsdragonfly: once my windows was broke. I tried the repair disk. It corrupted all my ext* partitions. then I didn't install windows anymore on any of my own computers
12:39 Zeg9 broken*
12:40 arsdragonfly :-(
12:40 john_minetest I once installed ubuntu on my windows pc dualboot.
12:41 john_minetest After this, my windows didn't start anymore and ubuntu was now working correctly and didn't shut down, it always hung up.
12:41 john_minetest Then I didn't install stupid ubuntu on any of my computers anymore.
12:41 Zeg9 ...Not to mention that I rage-formated all the drives after that
12:42 Zeg9 john_minetest: I once tried to install ubuntu on a usb hdd, but it installed the bootloader to my internal hdd
12:43 Zeg9 Every other installation ubuntu installation worked fine though.
12:44 john_minetest The sys admin of my father spend a few days fixing my PC with ubuntu again. Ubuntu smashed importan
12:44 john_minetest t parts of my windows OS.
12:45 john_minetest Also Ubuntu is too colorful for me. I even prefer windows over it because windows is not that colorful and cleaner.
12:46 john_minetest When I have to use ubuntu, the first thing I do is starting the shell. Or switching tty. although my Maths teacher nearly freaked out because I wanted to kill a hanging X by kill in tty...
12:47 john_minetest "What are you doing? Don't damage the system! Switch back to normal thing. NOW.
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12:49 Zeg9 ^ at least the terminal in unixes are useful to something different than shutting down other's computers :P
12:49 Ego That's why you put C99 locally on non-terminal clients, it's a PHP local. ^__^
12:54 PilzAdam DanDuncombe, the installation of the updated took 40 minutes, the download was fast
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12:55 DanDuncombe Oh, ok. Crap Windows then :)
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12:57 DanDuncombe PilzAdam: With your TNT mod, does the TNT fall when lit,like in MC?
12:58 PilzAdam why would it do that?
12:58 DanDuncombe I don't know.
12:58 DanDuncombe Maybe embers from the fuse melt the glue sticking to the wall.
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13:03 Calinou <john_minetest> After this, my windows didn't start anymore and ubuntu was now working correctly and didn't shut down, it always hung up.
13:04 Calinou fun fact: recent windowses use UEFI+GPT, MS' secret plan to kill dualbooting
13:04 Calinou (recent installs made after ~2011)
13:04 Calinou and for the hunging, when did you try it?
13:05 john_minetest A few years ago.
13:05 Calinou john_minetest: windows 8 is very colorful, too :P
13:05 john_minetest I don't use Windows 8. It is ugly. But not as colorful as ubuntu :p
13:06 john_minetest I prefer archlinux over all other distros. It is easy to install but only gives you the basic tools so you don't have to spend hours trying to deinstall unity and install a proper WM/DE.
13:07 * PilzAdam plays the candy game again
13:07 john_minetest Rolling release gives you the latest stuff. I never had incompatibilities with it.
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13:07 iqualfragile PilzAdam: staph
13:07 PilzAdam too late :-/
13:07 iqualfragile archlinux, woohoo
13:07 Calinou john_minetest: you can use k/l/xubuntu
13:08 Calinou rolling release on low level is bad
13:08 DanDuncombe I see that PilzAdam dislikes Johnyknowhow's music.
13:08 iqualfragile hmm… interesting in arch gtk3 and mesa depend on wayland
13:08 iqualfragile not as optional but as a major dependency
13:08 Calinou see
13:09 iqualfragile thats awsome!
13:09 iqualfragile i wonder why qt5 does not…
13:09 john_minetest The whole *ubuntus have preset stuff. archlinux has the newest stuff and users can decide what to choose. The standard DE/WM on archlinux is none. simple ttys.
13:09 iqualfragile and the aur concept is superior to ppas
13:10 Calinou full of skiddies wanting to get their backdoor packages, too :P
13:10 iqualfragile as ppas could just contain like any package they want
13:10 john_minetest You only have to read the pkgfile to see if the source is legitimated.
13:10 Calinou also, it's 2013
13:10 iqualfragile or just put any binary into the packages
13:11 iqualfragile i actualy do that (reading pkgbuilds)
13:11 john_minetest me, too. I often have to change stuff to get non-deprecated versions.
13:12 iqualfragile or to get things to compile at all ^^
13:12 iqualfragile julius for example
13:12 john_minetest yeah.
13:12 john_minetest I hope the guy who arrived 8 hours too late at IRC yesterday comes on time today...
13:13 john_minetest Doing a project with him...
13:13 PilzAdam MinetestBot?
13:13 PilzAdam sfan5?
13:13 sfan5 hm
13:13 john_minetest No, <XS4-759>
13:14 sfan5 thexyz: wheres MinetestBot?
13:14 john_minetest On #orbusofresurrection on IRCnet.
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13:24 PilzAdam "The Swampy Swamp is the swampiest swamp you've ever seen."
13:24 GCHQ Candy Box!
13:26 Calinou candy box got boring for me, in hard mode
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13:39 iqualfragile yeah, you know? candybox is just javascript, compleetly clientside… could not restrain myself
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13:54 sfan5 wow, the Microsoft Support is really friendly
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14:02 * john_minetest has just written an event handler for his engine
14:04 PilzAdam ......
14:04 * PilzAdam just accidentally closed FF without saving candy box
14:04 john_minetest nooooooooooo
14:04 sfan5 whooosh
14:04 john_minetest What are the js commands for adding lollipops and stuff again?
14:05 Ego PilzAdam, did you get my memo?
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14:05 PilzAdam yes
14:06 PilzAdam Ego, but I dont understand it
14:08 sfan5 john_minetest: "lollipops.nbrOwned = 10000", "candies.nbrOwned = 10000" i think
14:08 john_minetest How to enter this? ?js=lollipops... or what?
14:09 sfan5 john_minetest: you use FF right?
14:09 john_minetest yeah
14:09 sfan5 one sec
14:09 john_minetest I enabled this thingie with the url bar.
14:10 sfan5 john_minetest: firebug console
14:10 john_minetest okay.
14:11 sfan5 john_minetest: also to unlock all areas instantly: "quest.setMaxLandOrder(100)"
14:11 Ego Aw rats
14:12 Ego I'd just really like to be the only creative on the server, for best justice.   'cause /giveme is an annoying command, heh.
14:13 john_minetest sfan5: where exactly do I have to enter this?
14:15 john_minetest okay. now I get 9999999 candies per second
14:15 * ruskie beat that game without cheating
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14:31 ShadowNinja In the address bar: javascript:candies.candiesPerSecond = 100000....
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14:34 john_minetest Well, I got a few million candies per second now.
14:35 Zeg9 Hi
14:36 john_minetest hi Zeg9, wb
14:36 Zeg9 thx
14:36 Zeg9 btw it's not good to cheat
14:37 Zeg9 hmm
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14:37 Zeg9 now I have to remember, what was the name of that software that allowed to modify directly the memory in other programs?
14:37 john_minetest I aborted the game. I was still too weak to fight the devil :/
14:37 john_minetest Zeg9: dll injector?
14:37 Zeg9 nop, for unix-like
14:37 Zeg9 found it back, scanmem
14:39 Exio4 it has a python gui called gameconqueror iirc
14:41 Zeg9 yep
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14:53 * PilzAdam beat the game without cheating
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15:00 Jordach i WONDER WHO VOTED FOR THIS: http://i.imgur.com/D6ux8Rc.png
15:00 PilzAdam Taoki
15:00 PilzAdam wofflegame! \o/
15:00 Jordach PilzAdam, notice the werewolf tab ;)
15:00 PilzAdam ^^
15:01 Jordach PilzAdam, feel free to PM me to walkthrough shit
15:02 Exio4 /topic
15:02 Exio4 in #puppygame
15:03 sfan5 lolwat
15:03 sfan5 facepalm: <quote> if u want to change the map flags to flat, open the "minetest.conf.example " file </quote>
15:03 sfan5 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=100429#p100429
15:05 ShadowNinja Jordach: I fixed my areas mod. It is running on my server now.
15:05 ShadowNinja It requies WE now.
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15:13 NakedFury hello
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15:21 Exio4 hey NakedFury
15:21 NakedFury hi
15:21 PilzAdam Exio4, *wuff*
15:22 Exio4 no, not puppygame
15:29 john_minetest wtf is "equestria"?
15:29 Jordach where mlp is set
15:29 Exio4 Jordach: brony
15:29 john_minetest okay...
15:30 john_minetest Well, it is kinda obvious.
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15:30 Jordach Exio4, i know that from calinou
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15:46 Jordach it takes 5.5 days for a minetest year to pass at 22mins over 24hours
15:46 Jordach ingame*
15:46 Jordach 5.5 irl days
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15:46 Jordach and i was never good at maths
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15:55 Ego For MobF (I've never used it) do the mobs despawn during the day?
15:55 Calinou no idea, I only use simple mobs
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15:56 Exio4 i only use simple mobs cuz those are in vanessae's game
15:56 Ego Do they despawn during the day? :O
15:56 Ego I like Zombies, 'cause omg so many, but they spawn so much that they literally become a nuissance rather than a threat.
15:56 Exio4 they should die during the day, yeah
15:56 Ego They all just stand around like idiots.
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15:56 Ego They don't die during the day. =/
15:56 Exio4 lol Ego
15:57 Ego I'll try Simple Mobs, thanks.
15:57 Ego I want some monsters to kill my son with.
15:57 GassyBritish I tried Simple Mobs yesterday and the mod was not working
15:57 Jordach GassyBritish, i see you got your cloak
15:57 Jordach * GassyBritish (~GassyBrit@cpc5-newt32-2-0-cust657.newt.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined
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15:57 Jordach we dont like seeing this, but it is fixable
15:57 Jordach with:
15:57 GassyBritish Yeah, About 1 hour after you went
15:58 Jordach /set_irc_join_delay = 12
15:58 GassyBritish Why do I need to do that?
15:58 Jordach that will fix your issue for the changing host line
15:58 GassyBritish Ok
15:58 Jordach GassyBritish, so we dont see the lines made by said host change
15:58 GassyBritish It should work now
15:58 Ego I just use CertFP, 'cause I'm too lazy to wait for 12! =P
15:58 GassyBritish CTCP Version?
15:59 Ego Not that I have a cloak...
15:59 proller Jordach, 132 irl hours == 1 MT year ?
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15:59 Exio4 Jordach: suddenly, monitor
15:59 Jordach proller, at 22mins for each 24hours, yes
15:59 GassyBritish "You are being CTCP flooded from Ego"
15:59 Jordach GassyBritish, dont worry about it
15:59 GassyBritish I have no idea what he gave me
15:59 Exio4 cloak is useless unless you use SASL, and it is even useless as there are glitches for looking around it
16:00 proller Jordach, i want to make seasons change, and 5 IRL days imho tooo long for season period
16:00 Ego Haha, neat.
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16:00 Ego I don't care for SASL, myself.
16:00 GassyBritish joined #minetest
16:00 Ego Unless it's TORSASL.
16:00 GassyBritish Fixed?
16:00 Jordach proller, these are calculations from the real game and time comparisons
16:00 Jordach GassyBritish, close hexchat and restart it
16:00 proller but how long winter must be ?
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16:01 proller 5-10 hours ?
16:01 Jordach GassyBritish, it works
16:01 GassyBritish Done?
16:01 GassyBritish Ok
16:02 Jordach GassyBritish, /ctcp nick TIME/VERSION/PING will do different things
16:02 Jordach TIME will give the computers time
16:02 Jordach (of the nick's pc)
16:02 GassyBritish Ok
16:02 Exio4 all of those can be disabled/ignored, faked and so on
16:02 Jordach version states the client the nickname is using
16:02 Exio4 all of them are client-side
16:02 Jordach ping is connection speed between you and the nickname
16:03 Exio4 not connection speed really though
16:03 GassyBritish >Jordach< CTCP PING
16:03 GassyBritish * Ping reply from Jordach: ? second(s)
16:03 GassyBritish Lol
16:03 Jordach GassyBritish, i have a 8MB line
16:03 Jordach i'm fast
16:03 Jordach (though not as fast as fibre...)
16:03 GassyBritish I have 60 mb/s
16:03 GassyBritish Firbe :)
16:03 Exio4 the network where my irc client runs is faster than all of yours
16:04 GassyBritish *Fibre
16:04 Exio4 vps running in a supa-fast dedi
16:04 GassyBritish Vps does not count
16:04 Exio4 ew, why not
16:04 Exio4 ;P
16:05 GassyBritish Cuz you are connecting to it
16:07 Exio4 my normal network has a shitload of latency, 80ms is the lower number my ping can be, and it has about 256kbps of upload/download
16:07 Ego PilzAdam
16:07 Jordach Ego, he's busy
16:07 Ego Okies
16:07 Jordach you can ask other people like me or calinou
16:07 Ego For his skins mod, does skins/meta need to exist?
16:07 Jordach Ego, NO
16:07 GassyBritish Anyone want to make a 'Good' Minetest map? The ones on the forums have no effort put into them (No offence to the makers) The maps on the forums are made by 9 year olds who put 2 mins to 1 hours worth off effort into them. Anyone want to put the amount of effort a Minecraft map maker puts into their map? Aka Hypixel
16:08 Jordach his one doesnt work with 3d players
16:08 Jordach you probably want this fork: https://github.com/sdzen/player_textures
16:08 Jordach which *does* work with 3d players; the player naming is the same
16:09 Ego Oooh, right right, I am using Zeg9's, I tried his but saw it was only 2d, but I like this fork better, 'cause I can assign a skin to a person, and not have people pick the same skins out of a wardrobe.
16:09 Ego I will indeed use this. ^__^
16:10 Jordach Ego, removing zeg's mod is fine
16:10 Zeg9 ohi
16:10 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/D6ux8Rc.png Why is there no "I don't give a shit if the show exists" option?
16:10 Jordach Ego, spare skins: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6270
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16:11 GassyBritish NekoGloop , I feel the same, I don't care if it exsists and I feel that anyone can like it if they want to . It does not effect me if they like it
16:12 NekoGloop I just dislike all the ones who are like "omg u don't love it so ur a h8r"
16:12 GassyBritish I have never seen anyone type that
16:13 NekoGloop Well, that's basically that poll :P
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16:14 * Jordach pets NekoGloop
16:14 * NekoGloop purrs
16:14 Jordach :3
16:14 Jordach http://www.mediafire.com/listen/o96iy9b9ld9bqtf/mtest.ogg <- bass plus snare = mobs in caves \o/
16:15 Jordach that's also a year old now :P
16:16 GassyBritish Jordach Is your server up?
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16:16 Jordach GassyBritish hold on
16:16 Jordach !up mt.viewskew.com
16:16 MinetestBot mt.viewskew.com:30000 seems to be down
16:16 Jordach uh oh
16:17 GassyBritish That explains why it was taking ages to connect
16:17 GassyBritish !up this.does.not.exist.com
16:17 MinetestBot this.does.not.exist.com:30000 seems to be down
16:17 Ego For Simple Mobs, what does chance 3 mean?
16:17 GassyBritish Jordach are you putting the server up?
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16:17 Jordach !up mt.viewskew.com
16:17 MinetestBot mt.viewskew.com:30000 is up (224ms)
16:17 webdesigner97 hi
16:17 Jordach done
16:18 GassyBritish Connecting
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16:18 Jordach GassyBritish, it requires a developer build
16:18 webdesigner97 I have some trouble with the API. The API says that minetest.place_node() would call the after_place_node function of the placed node. But that doesn't work
16:18 GassyBritish I am in though
16:18 webdesigner97 it isn't called
16:19 Jordach GassyBritish, you will not be able to access chests, locked chests -- eg, any item that uses metadata
16:20 Exio4 why?
16:20 GassyBritish Back in 20-30 mins (Dinner)
16:20 Exio4 when did that get changed?
16:20 Jordach Exio4, in master, formspecs are broken with 0.4.7
16:20 Jordach because sapier fucked with formspecs due to lua main menu
16:21 PenguinDad Ego: It means mobs are spawning with a chance of 1 to 3.
16:21 Ego Ah, these are it's drop rates, is 3 the highest?
16:21 Ego I'd like to add some rare drops to these.
16:21 Ego its*
16:22 Jordach dafuq
16:22 Jordach something just went beep
16:24 Exio4 it isn't the highest ego
16:24 Exio4 the highest is what a integer can handle? :P
16:24 Jordach ShadowNinja, pm me for privs
16:24 Exio4 an
16:25 PenguinDad Ego: I mean in 1 of 3 cases it drops something.
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16:31 Jordach DanDuncombe, hello
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16:37 PenguinDad Hi Ipos_
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16:38 BlockMen hi
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16:39 Jordach ShadowNinja, pm me the conf settings to remove anticheat
16:39 Exio4 disable_anticheat = true
16:39 Exio4 yw
16:40 PenguinDad What does anticheat do?
16:40 john_minetest Anticheat checks if you are running too fast and stuff.
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16:41 Calinou running too fast, digging too fast (or undiggable blocks), building/mining far away nodes
16:41 Calinou noclip and flying are currently not detected
16:45 Jordach ShadowNinja, relog; lrfurn and anticheat disabled
16:47 ShadowNinja Calinou: interacting with nodes from too far is checked regerdless of the setting.
16:48 * ShadowNinja needs to fix his hilights
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16:51 PilzAdam Jordach, can you put the music (http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=100444#p100444) at http://mg.viewskew.com/ ?
16:53 Jordach PilzAdam, later
16:54 Jordach PilzAdam, mt.viewskew.com is 20% faster
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16:55 Calinou ShadowNinja: ok, good thing IMO
16:56 Calinou PilzAdam: 100000 posts!
16:56 Calinou erm, 100000 PID
16:56 Calinou 92,561 posts right now
16:57 Exio4 7439 of spam
16:57 PilzAdam and the rest is about ponies
16:57 Exio4 :o Calinou has 92k of posts?
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17:03 thexyz did someone delete it?
17:04 GassyBritish Back
17:06 GassyBritish Lol my lag to this chat is 0.0 seconds like a boos
17:11 Calinou GassyBritish: /ping
17:11 Calinou 0.08 seconds for me
17:11 GassyBritish It does not tell me
17:11 Calinou depends on your client then
17:12 PenguinDad GassyBritish: for me the same
17:12 Kacey GassyBritish, what client are you using?
17:12 GassyBritish Hexchat
17:12 GassyBritish You also have Hexchat
17:12 Kacey i use Hexchat also, but on windows 8 compared to your 7
17:12 GassyBritish You have 1.40 ghz
17:13 Kacey its a laptop
17:13 GassyBritish I have a Intel Pentium (UHHHHH) 2.30 ghz dualcore, 3gb ram
17:13 Jordach Calinou,
17:13 Jordach * Ping reply from sendak.freenode.net: 0.03 second(s)
17:14 Jordach GassyBritish, see the name called freenode, thats where things such as /ping data resides
17:14 Exio4 i haz 4ghz!!!!111!!
17:14 Exio4 and moar corez!
17:14 Jordach ^ amd fanboi
17:14 john_minetest * Ping reply from banks.freenode.net: 0.45 second(s)
17:14 Exio4 yeah, amd fanboi :>
17:14 GassyBritish 8 cores sucks, Quad core Intel is better
17:14 Calinou +1 GassyBritish
17:14 john_minetest AMD is much cheaper than Intel.
17:15 Calinou john_minetest: but there are downsides, mainly higher power usage
17:15 PenguinDad I've AMD too.
17:15 Kacey how do i ping the server?
17:15 Calinou higher power usage: 1) makes bill more expensive 2) requires a bigger PSU 2) requires better cooling
17:15 john_minetest Energy is cheap.
17:15 Calinou depends on countries, but don't forget 2 and 3
17:15 Calinou it's way easier to have quiet cooling with intel than AMD :P
17:15 john_minetest Also AMD can be overclocked easily without much cooling. So I think cooling isn't such a problem.
17:16 Exio4 Calinou: amd changes its mobo way less than intel, and their mobos are a bit cheaper
17:16 GassyBritish Oc is not even needed
17:16 Calinou not really, even a FX-8320 at stock gets as hot as a 4770K
17:16 Elench Treating energy as cheap accelerates problems we face
17:16 Calinou that too
17:16 Calinou and overclocking is like picking pennies of the street
17:16 Calinou I'm surprised people claiming ubuntu is buggy overclock their CPUs 8)
17:17 Exio4 energy isn't cheap, but i won't buy an i3 instead of my cpu for the same price
17:17 john_minetest AMD performance vs Nvidia performance with price -> AMD is better in most cases.
17:17 Exio4 for compiling those moar corez!!! are pretty good
17:17 PilzAdam Exio4> why is the singlethread performance of all the cpus around better than mine :(
17:17 Calinou Exio4: well, if you win 20 seconds, good for you
17:17 Exio4 PilzAdam: it was a joke
17:17 Calinou john_minetest: most cases :P look at the 760
17:17 Calinou cheaper than the 7950, same performance
17:17 Exio4 Calinou: most cases, he said
17:17 Calinou only downside is 2GB of VRAM instead of 3GB, which can be useful for people playing on 3 screens or 2560×1440|1600
17:18 GassyBritish PilzAdam , I think beds are bugged I was on  JOrdachs server and was sleeping and when I got off the bed I fell throught the floor
17:18 john_minetest Calinou: I am always playing on 50 full HD screens.
17:18 Calinou and AMD's drivers still suck more or less
17:18 Exio4 PilzAdam: the ST perf of my cpu isn't that bad, and it works pretty well for playing random games :P
17:19 Exio4 amd is perf/price with the downside of powerusage
17:19 Calinou (frequent reports of HD7000s being very slow on TF2)
17:19 PilzAdam 8 cores @ 2.93 GHz here
17:19 Exio4 threads
17:19 Calinou 8 threads you mean
17:19 Calinou I doubt you use 3500 euro CPUs
17:19 PilzAdam 4 hyperthreaded cores = 8 virtual cores
17:19 Exio4 threads
17:19 Exio4 threads != core
17:19 Calinou HT is useful, but less efficient than physical cores.
17:19 PilzAdam virtual core = thread
17:19 Calinou (in terms of multitasking)
17:19 PilzAdam Calinou, of course
17:19 PilzAdam <Calinou> I doubt you use 3500 euro CPUs
17:20 Calinou it also greatly reduces sound latency with pulseaudio, for some reason
17:20 * Calinou bets on intel sponsoring PA
17:20 PilzAdam hehe
17:20 Exio4 intel = redhat = pulseaudio
17:20 PilzAdam would be aweseome
17:20 Exio4 \:D/
17:20 Jordach PilzAdam, fire active for furnaces are broken in git
17:20 PilzAdam Jordach, thats already fixed
17:20 Kacey brb
17:21 Exio4 Calinou: hyperthreading is a very nice way for making the multithreading performance get a small boost when sharing the same resources of a cpu "with two virtual threads" ... as it reduces a bit of load of the software to the hardware
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17:23 Kacey hey guys, i got a client for windows 8! it is awesome!
17:23 PilzAdam xchat?
17:23 Exio4 client for what?
17:23 GCHQ Me too!
17:25 Calinou Kacey doesn't reply to a CTCP VERSION
17:25 Calinou doesn't sound like a good client :>
17:25 Kacey it is built for windows 8 and only works on it. it is an app for the start menu
17:25 Kacey hang on
17:25 Calinou nevermind, it just takes a lot of time
17:25 Exio4 maybe he was good enough for disabling the answers
17:25 Calinou Kacey: hexchat can also be an app for the start menu
17:25 Ego -13:26:03- -> -(CTCP-VERSION)- kacey
17:25 Ego -13:26:03- -(CTCP-VERSION:Kacey)- IRC-Messenger:1.0:Windows8
17:26 Calinou also, I don't like metro in windows 8, I just use ClassicShell (when I'm on a PC with win8)
17:27 Kacey http://i.imgur.com/20nnZ4g.png
17:27 Kacey brb
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17:28 Kacey hexchat is better imho
17:33 Calinou that font in metro interface? lol
17:37 PenguinDad The Purple 8 Ball says:  Unclear
17:40 Kacey hey guys... i lost my computer...
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17:41 Calinou use google to find it back
17:41 thexyz sfan5: it fucking died?
17:52 GCHQ What's a good survival server?
17:52 Jordach mt.viewskew.com
17:52 Jordach has mobs
17:52 Jordach minecarts
17:52 Exio4 </spam>
17:52 Exio4 :P
17:54 GCHQ Thanks :)
17:54 Jordach ShadowNinja, i needed we + areas right
17:57 john_minetest Jordach: It is not on the list.
17:57 Jordach !up mt.viewskew.com
17:57 MinetestBot mt.viewskew.com:30000 is up (244ms)
17:58 Jordach do i need -DENABLE_CURL=1
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17:59 Calinou >2013 >not using cURL
17:59 john_minetest YAY! Today a new episode of "Let's play THE INNER WORLD" by gronkh!
18:00 PilzAdam john_minetest, there is a new episode every day...
18:00 Jordach john_minetest, did you just join my server
18:00 Calinou s/the inner world/MLP
18:00 * Calinou runs
18:01 john_minetest PilzAdam: Just wanted to remind everybody.
18:01 PilzAdam I already watched it hours ago
18:01 john_minetest Jordach: I am on the server but I had to enter the adress by hand.
18:01 PilzAdam john_minetest, Gronkh's adventures are currently better than MC
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18:03 john_minetest PilzAdam: I don't really watch gronkh's MC stuff. I watch the inner world and sarazar's "the last of us" atm.
18:03 john_minetest I want to buy the night of the rabbit so I don't watch it.
18:03 MarkTwain Check out my new website! : http://marktest.co.uk
18:04 PilzAdam !kick MarkTwain no
18:04 MarkTwain HHAHAHHAHAH
18:04 Exio4 MarkTwain: are you fucking serious
18:04 Exio4 don't tell me you just join to a channel to spam a fucking link
18:04 PilzAdam !kick MarkTwain no
18:04 MarkTwain was kicked by MinetestBot: no
18:04 Exio4 ew
18:04 john_minetest NEW? I saw this one 3 days ago...
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18:21 sfan5 !ban markveidemanis*
18:21 sfan5 MinetestBot!
18:21 MinetestBot sfan5!
18:21 sfan5 !ban markveidemanis*
18:21 sfan5 wat
18:21 sfan5 !ban markveidemanis*@*
18:22 sfan5 !unban markveidemanis*@*
18:22 sfan5 !ban markveidemanis*!*
18:22 sfan5 !ban markveidemanis*!*@*
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18:24 Ego Isn't that one of those Markov chain bots?
18:24 Ego I hate those things..
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18:30 Jordach mmmm ice cream
18:31 PilzAdam ^
18:31 Jordach choc chip too
18:32 john_minetest Now I want to have chinese food.
18:32 john_minetest :(
18:32 * PilzAdam never had chinsese food
18:32 PilzAdam -typo
18:33 Jordach sfan5, fixed MinetestBot yet?
18:33 Jordach she still doesnt !op me properly
18:33 sfan5 john_minetest: should be fixed
18:33 sfan5 derp
18:33 Jordach !op
18:33 sfan5 ^ Jordach
18:33 sfan5 ...
18:34 sfan5 !ban MarkTwain*!*
18:35 PilzAdam Jordach, you are no OP, accept it
18:35 Jordach PilzAdam, pot and kettle
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18:36 Yrol_Denjeah Greetings :o)
18:38 Jordach http://imgur.com/gallery/Cfwm6
18:38 Jordach ^ ture
18:38 Jordach true as an englishman
18:40 Calinou lol
18:49 Jordach sfan5, #FAFAFA isnt the forum colour backgroud
18:50 Jordach #transp is
18:50 Jordach fuck, that's HTML5
18:50 Jordach forum isnt :P
18:50 sfan5 #transp == #FAFAFA because the area under the transparent text is #FAFAFA
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18:57 Ego spawn_min_light = -1,  spawn_max_light = 20, -- does that control time of day?
18:57 Jordach ego, /time 6000 = morning at 6am
18:57 Ego Aye, this is in the zombies pack.
18:57 Ego I want the zombies to die during the day, would that be light damage?
18:57 Ego Or spawn_min
18:58 Jordach max light is the most amount of light needed to make them spawn
18:58 Jordach 20 = spawns during day
18:58 Jordach 7 would be good
18:58 Ego So, they only spawn during the day at this rate?  Lol
18:58 Ego That's silly.
18:59 Ego I thought I saw them spawning at night, too, maybe I was wrong.
18:59 Ego So, min 0, max 7 would be dark?
18:59 Ego Only spawns during dark
18:59 Jordach yes
18:59 Ego Right on
19:00 Ego Thanks
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19:05 NekoGloop fuzzy wuzzy was a bear...
19:06 john_minetest you have the right to arm bears.
19:06 Calinou PilzAdam: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/832
19:06 Calinou about this, feel free to mark it as bug :P
19:06 Calinou (maybe add a low-priority bug category too)
19:07 Exio4 i saw that bug, and it would need to add a way to share the breath client<->server
19:07 john_minetest Calinou: much more critical is, that you can get air by swimming up against a block when under water.
19:08 Calinou save it in player files when disconnecting, maybe
19:08 Calinou also, air could be reset to 100% when respawning
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19:10 Sokominesucks Hi soko a$$
19:10 Sokominesucks Hi soko,m
19:10 Sokominesucks Hi soko
19:11 Sokominesucks Soko I no your dumb a$$ is on
19:13 Ego Is there a way I can generate a map without lava?  Or to delete all the lava?
19:13 thexyz Ego: you can alias lava to air or water
19:13 Sokominesucks Hey soko this rev from red rap
19:14 Ego How do I do that Thexyz?
19:14 Sokominesucks Soko soko soko soko soko
19:14 Ego minetest.register_alias("mapgen_lava_source", "air")
19:15 Ego That'll do it, methinks!
19:15 Sokominesucks Is little baby soko not going to talk
19:15 Sokominesucks Dos she have
19:15 Sokominesucks Dos she have a wet diaper
19:16 thexyz Ego: I think it's better to alias default:lava_source and default:lava_flowing
19:16 thexyz to air
19:16 Sokominesucks C'mon soko
19:17 Sokominesucks Ego
19:17 thexyz Sokominesucks: hey, you should call people by full names to highlight them
19:17 thexyz Sokominesucks: also, please move this discussion to query
19:18 Sokominesucks Shove it up ur nose a$$
19:19 Exio4 i'd have kickbanned him as he joined
19:19 Exio4 :>
19:19 Ego minetest.register_alias("default:lava_source", "air")
19:19 Ego minetest.register_alias("default:lava_flowing", "air") ?
19:19 thexyz should do it
19:20 Sokominesucks Shove in your nose
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19:22 Soko Aim back
19:22 Soko Iam back
19:22 GCHQ thexyz: just an FYI, you can use /msg chanserv quiet ##channel <nick>
19:22 GCHQ To do that in one command
19:22 GCHQ Well, #channel in this case
19:23 thexyz GCHQ: oh, thank you
19:23 GCHQ There isn't a ban equivalent, but it works pretty well if you just want to mute :)
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19:27 Ego Why is there no /cs ban on here?  Heh
19:30 GCHQ Because freenode hate bans
19:31 Ego Fair 'nough.
19:32 Ego Thexyz, I put lava in mg_flags and got nothin': http://pastebin.com/XAH2Ts2W  what does? ;-;
19:32 ShadowNinja Jordach: Yes, what site should I upload it to?
19:34 BlockMen bye
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19:35 thexyz Ego: I'm not sure setting_getbool works with mg_flags
19:35 Ego Rats
19:35 Ego How to does this? =/
19:35 thexyz Ego: put `mapgen_lava = true` into your minetest.conf
19:35 LazyJ GCHQ, will the quiet command you helped thexyz with work with nickserv?  (nickserv vs chanserv)
19:36 Ego Oooh, I see.
19:37 pehjota LazyJ: No.  See the help messages of both bots.
19:37 Ego That didn't do it, though. =/  Still get it.
19:38 pehjota LazyJ: ChanServ has channel commands like quiet, unquiet, voice, devoice, op, deop, etc.  NickServ does not.
19:39 LazyJ Ok, thanks.
19:39 Ego Any idea, Thexyz ?
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19:40 sfan5 !op
19:40 Jordach !op
19:40 Jordach cmon MinetestBot
19:40 Ego -15:41:04- -(freenode:ChanServ)- You are not authorized to perform this operation.
19:41 GCHQ LazyJ: just chanserv
19:41 GCHQ Oh, others answered
19:42 GCHQ I was distracted by the fact that my TOWER O' DOOM now has trees on
19:44 Megaf folks, would you like to join my server? its a vanilla server
19:44 Megaf no mods
19:44 thexyz Ego: well how about you just remove that if to test it?
19:45 Ego Oh, I think this register alias just changes it for stuff like /giveme
19:45 Ego Maybe
19:45 Ego What do you mean by remove that?
19:46 thexyz Only leave 4'th and 5'th lines
19:46 Ego Gonna try editing mapgen first, then I'll try that
19:47 Ego I think editing mapgen did it.
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19:58 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6595
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20:00 Ego Yeah, just leaving lines 4 and 5 doesn't stop it from generating.
20:00 Ego But that's okay.
20:00 Ego I edited mapgen for a single map. ^__^
20:01 Calinou you can do that
20:02 thexyz well then you probably put it in the wrong file
20:07 john_minetest thexyz: The poll doesn't work for me...
20:08 thexyz good
20:09 thexyz 2d girls are better anyway
20:10 john_minetest "It was most ridiculous and stupid show on TV. It was worse than sponge bob." -> Shows with laugthtrack are worse ever. Except a few that are so good that substracting points for the laughtrack haven't got much effect.
20:10 Calinou le MLP thread
20:10 * Calinou asks "What do you believe?" in that topic
20:10 Calinou genius isn't it
20:11 john_minetest 2 and a half man for example. Simply stupid and then there is a laugthtrack.
20:11 Calinou john_minetest, idea: MLP with laughtrack
20:12 john_minetest Well, mlp ponies are at least cute.
20:12 Calinou my little ponies ponies
20:13 john_minetest Spongebob is often *facepalm* and I don't want to begin with normal TV shows with bad, 40 years old actors playing "teen mum".
20:13 john_minetest Or "we are family".
20:13 john_minetest Or "Richterin Salesch"
20:14 john_minetest Although "Richterin Salesch" has funny story sometimes and there isn't a laughtrack.
20:15 john_minetest Laughtracks... as if people were too DUMB to realize: "oh, that was funny".
20:16 Calinou imagine a sitcom wihout a laughtrack; it would be pretty boring
20:16 Calinou laughtracks are there to make non-funny things funny
20:16 thexyz uhh, cute ponies
20:17 Calinou thexyz has joined /b/
20:18 thexyz Calinou: what's than?
20:18 thexyz looks like html tag
20:18 GCHQ 4chan?
20:18 Calinou you called the offtopic section /b/ once :P
20:18 GCHQ If it's 4chan then /b/ is where sanity goes to die
20:19 thexyz oh crap
20:19 thexyz Calinou: no, it's even worse
20:19 thexyz how about we change all names in "Offtopic" to "Anonymous"?
20:23 sfan5 ^
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20:30 NakedFury hey
20:31 GCHQ ho
20:31 thexyz not a good idea, I guess
20:31 GCHQ Let's go!
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20:35 NakedFury hey guys
20:35 NakedFury how are you?
20:35 Calinou fine
20:36 hdastwb alright
20:36 NakedFury just fine or Fine? Fine is feeling good.
20:36 NakedFury im feeling Fine
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20:42 marktraceur NakedFury: Consensually?
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21:12 DanDuncombe Does anyone know of any website with Minetest mods on it that isn't the forums or minetest.net?
21:16 Megaf folks, is my server working? megaf.no-ip.info port 30001
21:23 Ego Does anyone know how to get in touch with Ashenk69?
21:25 Ego Or Trixie21 =/
21:25 Ego I want a creative inventory on survival. /crai
21:27 Kacey !up megaf.no-ip.info 30001
21:27 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30001 seems to be down
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21:36 Megaf !up megaf.no-ip.info 30001
21:36 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30001 seems to be down
21:38 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: No caves in voxelmanip nether. :-(
21:38 PilzAdam huh
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21:39 PilzAdam for me there are caves....
21:41 ShadowNinja Very, very small unconnected ones. Sometimes as small as one node.
21:41 PilzAdam yea, there is a bug
21:41 Megaf_ !up megaf.no-ip.info 30001
21:41 Megaf_ !up megaf.no-ip.info 30001
21:41 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30001 seems to be down
21:42 Megaf_ ok, once again
21:42 Megaf_ !up megaf.no-ip.info 30001
21:42 MinetestBot megaf.no-ip.info:30001 is up (352ms)
21:42 Megaf_ finally
21:42 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Seems you don't really generate it, you just do replacements. You could probably do this with a PerlinNoiseMap.
21:43 ShadowNinja Also, IMO netherack should be destroyed much faster by a diamond pick...
21:44 ShadowNinja I could probably code it, but I have no idea how NoiseParams work.
21:46 ShadowNinja Found a cave generated by MGv6. But I think the nether should have bigger caves.
21:47 ShadowNinja Also found some empty areas.
21:48 NakedFury is PerlinNoise Map the best method to generate? or the most common?
21:51 ShadowNinja Well not many people do mapgen in Lua. That is just what I saw when looking through lua_api.txt
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21:53 NakedFury my internet provider most be having a heart attack, this thing is so damn slow
21:54 FreeFull Netherrack shouldn't be a very strong block
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21:57 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: I built a second portal but didn't get a matching one at the other end.
21:58 ShadowNinja NVM, took a while.
22:03 ShadowNinja Hmmm, portals placed at the same coordinates don't link. It would be nice if you could link them like that.
22:04 PilzAdam no, the connection between 2 portals is destroyed if you break one of it, no way to restore it
22:06 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Why does the portal placing take so long? The generation is much faster.
22:07 PilzAdam cavegen tends to cut into portals
22:07 PilzAdam I recheck and regenerate them 4 times or so
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22:10 McBrutal hello
22:10 McBrutal im looking for help setting up my own server for my gaming group
22:11 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Also give the partal material a nodebox so it isn't flat.
22:12 PilzAdam hm?
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22:15 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Look at a portal from sideways. The interior is flat.
22:15 PilzAdam its not
22:16 PilzAdam its just backface culled
22:16 GCHQ How is it decided which nodes are simulated?
22:16 GCHQ Is it just being close enough to a player?
22:20 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: http://i.imgur.com/1JhlFmf.png
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22:20 PilzAdam its a 0.2 thick nodebox
22:20 PilzAdam <PilzAdam> its just backface culled
22:21 ShadowNinja Oh, I see. You don't have a side texture, correct?
22:21 PilzAdam yep
22:22 ShadowNinja Well then add one.
22:22 PilzAdam that doesnt look good
22:22 PilzAdam you see it in the middle of the portal
22:22 ShadowNinja Hmmm...
22:23 PilzAdam also "normal" players dont fly into the obsidian
22:26 hdastwb McBrutal: have you read: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Setting_up_a_server ?
22:29 ShadowNinja Good point, but still...
22:30 McBrutal yes im using the no-ip method
22:31 McBrutal ive set up my router udp port 30000
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22:31 McBrutal it either stalls on connect and times out or says invalid password
22:31 john_minetest bye
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22:32 McBrutal how do I chat back in private chat
22:33 GCHQ I always type in full
22:33 GCHQ Minetest needs channels yo
22:33 sokomine here in irc? use /msg name hi
22:33 McBrutal nice thankyou
22:34 PilzAdam McBrutal, or /query name to open a new tab for PMs
22:34 sokomine also, initial connection to a server may take a while. some have a lot of media to download. i've experienced over 20 minutes for the first connection (subsequent ones are very fast and no problem)
22:34 PilzAdam sokomine, I saw you have a new friend: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-07-17#i_3204545
22:34 Pineapples Does anyone know what coconuts are for in Moretrees mod?
22:34 McBrutal I might be giving up too early than
22:35 sokomine decoration :-) probably food as well (at least with the food-mod)
22:36 sokomine pilzadam: oh? who's that?
22:36 McBrutal im really hoping to get this game working, I have a whole gaming group that would love to play
22:36 PilzAdam sokomine, dunno
22:36 McBrutal its saying connecting to a server now, Ill wait and see what happens
22:37 sokomine i'm afraid this guy can't be helped then :-(
22:37 sokomine mcbrutal: you may try an already running server first to get to know the game better
22:37 Pineapples I have a crapton of decorative cocnouts then?
22:38 sokomine but in general, starting a server is very easy
22:38 sokomine pineapples: yes, seems so :-)
22:38 sokomine they really look nice on coconut trees!
22:38 sokomine er, palms
22:41 hdastwb McBrutal: any luck?
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23:03 RealBadAngel actually with coconuts you can get some food
23:04 RealBadAngel https://github.com/VanessaE/moretrees/blob/master/crafts.lua#L49
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23:06 Naked are you going to add coconuts and other fruits?
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23:08 RealBadAngel Naked, theyre already in the mod
23:08 Naked I havent played in a long time
23:09 RealBadAngel try technic_game then, it has lotsa changes
23:10 PilzAdam rm -rf / brings lotsa changes too
23:10 PilzAdam :-p
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23:49 pehjota PilzAdam: Actually, `rm -rf /` does nothing.  POSIX.1-2008 XCU: "If … an operand resolves to the root directory, rm shall write a diagnostic message to standard error and do nothing more with such operands."  You want `rm -rf /*`.

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