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00:08 * Jordach compiles minetest
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00:21 kaeza greetings
00:21 Exio4 hi kaeza!
00:22 kaeza Exio4, URUGUAY QUE NO NI NO!! :P
00:22 Exio4 wat i dun even
00:22 kaeza lost against france ;_;
00:22 Exio4 ah
00:22 kaeza 2nd place
00:23 Exio4 blame calinou
00:23 Jordach we always blame calinou
00:23 PilzAdam ^
00:23 Jordach </honest>
00:23 kaeza ^
00:23 kahrl v
00:23 Jordach </honest>
00:24 Jordach :D
00:24 Jordach nice try kahrl
00:24 kaeza ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → B A
00:25 kaeza inb4 konami code mod
00:25 kaeza gives you 30 MESE
00:26 * kaeza also wonders what is Jordach doing up so late
00:26 Jordach kaeza, it's a saturday, im up for the next 1hrs 30mins
00:26 Kacey what does inb4 mean?!?!?!
00:27 kaeza ah :P
00:27 kaeza Kacey, http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=inb4
00:27 Jordach shit
00:28 Jordach i just hit pause in nano, how do i bring it back
00:28 Jordach (ssh session)
00:28 kaeza ^Q
00:29 Jordach ?
00:29 PilzAdam Ctrl + Q
00:29 Jordach nope.avi
00:29 Jordach just tried that
00:30 Exio4 aw
00:30 Exio4 the mod manager doesn't work
00:30 Exio4 how did i enable a mod?
00:30 Jordach PilzAdam, debian 6 bt
00:30 Exio4 enable_nether = true to game.mt?
00:30 Jordach yes
00:30 PilzAdam world.mt
00:30 Exio4 wait
00:30 Exio4 didn't it have mod
00:30 Exio4 mod_enable_nether = ture
00:30 Exio4 true
00:30 Exio4 enable_mod_nether = true?
00:30 Jordach think so
00:30 PilzAdam enable_mod_*
00:31 Exio4 i won't follow what you say Jordach
00:31 Exio4 i said something complety wrong and you said yes
00:33 Jordach fg dammit
00:33 Jordach fg solved igt
00:33 Jordach it*
00:37 Jordach !up mt.viewskew.com
00:37 MinetestBot mt.viewskew.com:30000 is up (230ms)
00:37 Jordach online.
00:38 Jordach down until tomorrow
00:39 Jordach (because i want a forum post + other stuff that i cant do on a laptop)
00:39 kaeza spam? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99431#p99431
00:40 Jordach depends - seems relevant.
00:40 Jordach a relevant spambot
00:41 Jordach we've had that twice on a topic complaining abou spambots; the topic got spammed.
00:42 Jordach StarBlessed, server restored
00:42 Jordach normal op will return tomorrow
00:43 StarBlessed kk
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00:46 Kacey http://xkcd.com/1061/
00:51 ShadowNinja load_mod_* = bool
00:53 VanessaE relevant or not, it's still spam.
00:53 VanessaE (as it's a commercial product and the poster wanted open source, which usually implies free/non-commercil)
00:53 VanessaE +a
00:54 VanessaE I say delete the post and see what the guy does.
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01:01 * Jordach agrees with VanessaE
01:01 Jordach anyways -- im considering making a minetest render film
01:01 VanessaE deleted.  Not gonna ban the guy just yet
01:01 Jordach probably 1:40 in length
01:02 Jordach VanessaE, there should be a small minetest movie by me and pavel
01:02 Jordach he provides the models and i animate / render scenes
01:03 VanessaE indeed
01:03 VanessaE there are certainly enough such things for MC
01:03 VanessaE just be sure you render them with HDX ;)
01:03 VanessaE (kidding!_
01:03 * Jordach slaps VanessaE and uses default.
01:04 Jordach i'll probably build myself a few chunks in the actual game then render based from that
01:04 Jordach as a general guide
01:06 Jordach NOOOOOOOOOOOO: http://i.imgur.com/ne4ICZV.png
01:07 Jordach Sam II: 616 views
01:07 VanessaE no?
01:07 Jordach i just bumped it to 617
01:09 VanessaE [Mod] MOB Framework [2.1.2] [mobf] self defence?  by sapier ( 1 2 3  45 )  1,109  117,339
01:09 VanessaE fuck a duck
01:09 VanessaE 117k views
01:09 Jordach mesecons has more
01:10 ShadowNinja I know a server that lasted about two weeks. It got 400k+...
01:11 ShadowNinja There may be something wrong with the viewcounter...
01:11 VanessaE yeah, I'd say so :)
01:11 Jordach ShadowNinja, some topics such as mito's tp has 150,000 views
01:11 Jordach which it shouldnt
01:12 VanessaE out of curiosity, I checked the texture packs section.  262k for Mito's "D" pack, yet HDX has 40 more replies and somehow only a tenth of the number of views
01:13 ShadowNinja while true wget <forum url> end
01:13 VanessaE I'd have hoped the forum would at least filter for unique views
01:17 Jordach ShadowNinja, lol
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01:33 * VanessaE sighs
01:34 VanessaE that last pipeworks commit pushes my server past the 4096 limit :(
01:35 VanessaE this mod needs a serious refactoring
01:35 PilzAdam by
01:35 PilzAdam +e
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01:44 Shadow Hello? Anybody there?
01:44 ShadowNinja Yes, many.
01:45 Guest55801 This is a mintest irc right?
01:45 Guest55801 minetest*
01:45 ShadowNinja Yes.
01:45 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: op MinetestBot
01:45 Guest55801 Are there any downloadable save files for minetest?
01:46 ShadowNinja Save files? You mean worlds?
01:47 Guest55801 No like a cache file, someone build stuff or made stuff on their areas and the uploaded the files of their work that was saved?
01:47 Guest55801 singleplayer
01:47 Guest55801 like readymade houses and stuff
01:48 ShadowNinja A schematic?
01:48 Guest55801 yea something like that
01:49 Menche like a worldedit file that you can place in your own world?
01:49 Guest55801 yea, a kind of singleplayer server where there are already houses and stuff.
01:49 Guest55801 a world that is already made.
01:49 ShadowNinja That would be a world/map.
01:49 Guest55801 any links?
01:50 Menche there's a map forum here: http://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=12
01:50 Guest55801 Thanks :)
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02:14 Yrol_Denjeah Greetings :o)
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02:43 hdastwb Should deployers and node breakers be changed to allow for placing them facing the +/- y directions (like pistons)? Is there any reason why they only work horizontally?
02:43 VanessaE there. show that mod who's boss.
02:43 VanessaE hdastwb: if you think you can do it, go for it!
02:44 VanessaE (be sure you git pull first, I just pushed a large change)
02:45 VanessaE (I have to leave your mese sand tubes disabled for my server for when it goes back online - its resources are stretched to the very limit)
02:50 Yrol_Denjeah How can we invert the mousewheel?
02:54 VanessaE not sure
02:54 VanessaE never tried :O)
02:54 VanessaE :)
02:55 Yrol_Denjeah Hm, ok, i give you an easier puzzle then ;o)
02:55 VanessaE don't.  my mind is elsewhere right now.
02:55 Yrol_Denjeah using the technics_game, where do i have to put the minetest HD textures so i can see them ingame?
02:56 VanessaE if they don't work right away, find the texture pack folder and copy all the .png files to ~/.minetest/textures/all
02:56 Yrol_Denjeah VanessaE, hihi, we both know one doenst need brain for IRC ;oP
02:56 VanessaE hey now
02:57 VanessaE it took me 18 years' worth of IRC to fully lose my mind ;)
02:57 Kacey heh it only took me  months
02:57 Kacey 6*
02:57 Kacey i must go now
03:04 * VanessaE cries
03:04 VanessaE Zimmerman acquitted.
03:08 pehjota Yrol_Denjeah: "invert_mouse = true" in minetest.conf.
03:09 pehjota Yrol_Denjeah: (See also minetest.conf.example.)
03:11 Yrol_Denjeah pehjota, thats not what i meant.
03:12 pehjota Yrol_Denjeah: Oh, mouse*wheel*.  Sorry. :)
03:12 pehjota Heh, I don't know.
03:14 Yrol_Denjeah °cries too° VanessaE, putting the textures there didnt work, im lost, putting them into "minetest\data also doesnt work, nor replacing the textures inside the technic_game default folder.
03:15 Yrol_Denjeah Also: why doesnt the torch work, when i carry it?
03:16 VanessaE the torch/flashlight has to be charged firt.
03:16 VanessaE first*
03:16 Yrol_Denjeah oh, uhm, i meant the wooden one
03:16 VanessaE as for textures, I'm not sure, if putting them in textures/all doesn't help, you've got a bigger problem :-)
03:17 VanessaE oh, wielded plain torches don't do that.
03:17 VanessaE (afaik)
03:17 Yrol_Denjeah ho9w weird
03:18 Yrol_Denjeah although, its kinda logical, i always found it stupid to run around with a stick with a huge fire on the end near your own hair
03:18 Yrol_Denjeah and face
03:18 VanessaE heh
03:18 VanessaE well, I don't think I've ever seen anyone hold a torch like THAT before.
03:19 Yrol_Denjeah they do it all the time in movies... more so, it makes you blind, because your eyes adjust to the near brightness so they cannot see very well
03:19 VanessaE heh
03:21 Yrol_Denjeah not to mention, how dumb woujld i be to explore a cave while  carrying a bright light, so every animal would instantly know where i am, its the same with all those copshows and their flashlights
03:22 Yrol_Denjeah There are working bows and arrows in MT, yes?
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03:23 VanessaE not by default
03:23 VanessaE you need the throwing mod for that
03:23 Yrol_Denjeah ah
03:23 Yrol_Denjeah °thinks about firearrows and grins°
03:25 Yrol_Denjeah uuh pilzadam made them already!
03:26 VanessaE heh
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03:45 Johnyknowhow Hello world.
03:46 Yrol_Denjeah Johnyknowhow, hello program
03:54 hdastwb why doesn't minetest have minetest.facedir_to_dir to complement minetest.dir_to_facedir?
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03:59 VanessaE dunno
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04:00 Jog_ Hello again
04:00 VanessaE hi
04:01 Jog_ Stupid autospell changed my name from Johnyknowhow to Jog_
04:01 Jog_ ...
04:01 Jog_ Going to change that.
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04:02 Johnyknowhow There.
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04:03 Johnyknowhow iPad has auto spell, makes it hard for capatcha and username.
04:05 VanessaE the first tablet I get will have that stupid feature disabled in less time than it takes me to rip the caps lock key from my keyboard :)
04:05 Johnyknowhow Hmmm, I wonder if there is a way to get a translator for minetest in game. It would be great for Russian, Spanish, and some other languages.
04:06 Johnyknowhow Lol
04:06 VanessaE hah!  good luck with that!
04:07 Johnyknowhow First, I need to learn some stuff like lua. And c++.
04:08 Johnyknowhow Then I could start making mods. And playing with the powder toy console.
04:08 Johnyknowhow Powder toy is a sandbox game I play
04:09 Johnyknowhow Afk
04:11 VanessaE you can mod just fine without having to futz with C++, though knowing it will help some
04:14 Johnyknowhow Yeah, c++would be good for other stuff too.
04:14 Johnyknowhow I should start reading a lua tutorial.
04:14 Johnyknowhow Somehow when I play minetest, the caps lock always turns on. Somehow.
04:15 Johnyknowhow I can type well on my iPad with two fingers
04:15 Johnyknowhow It makes it easier
04:15 Johnyknowhow To type with the iPad in my la.
04:15 Johnyknowhow Lap
04:17 Yrol_Denjeah waaaaaaaaaaa! i was mining and minding my own business calmly, when suddenly i notice a row of red balls heading towards me from the right
04:17 Yrol_Denjeah some fireball throwing monster just found me °runs for life°
04:18 Johnyknowhow Is this irc channel really ever busy? Like at least 5 posts from different people a minute?
04:18 VanessaE sometimes it is
04:18 VanessaE but usually after about 8pm US eastern time it goes pretty much dead
04:18 Johnyknowhow Yell, are you playing 3.7?
04:19 Yrol_Denjeah 5 posts from different people a minute = not busy, thats machingegun chat... ew
04:19 Johnyknowhow *Yrol
04:19 Yrol_Denjeah Johnyknowhow, no. 0.47
04:19 VanessaE 0.47 doesn't exist.
04:19 VanessaE zero point four point seven
04:19 Yrol_Denjeah uhm
04:19 Johnyknowhow He means 0.4.7
04:19 Yrol_Denjeah jeez... ;oP
04:19 Frogcrush Minecraft player detected.
04:19 Johnyknowhow And there are no mobs in 047, is there?
04:20 VanessaE not by default, no.
04:20 Yrol_Denjeah Johnyknowhow, i use the technic_game with some stuff added
04:20 VanessaE there are a number of mobs mods out there (simple mobs, mobf, critters, peaceful_npc, slimes, and a few others)
04:20 Yrol_Denjeah like... as much as i can without breaking it ;o)
04:21 marktraceur VanessaE: IIRC "Simple Mobs" has a big bold red text on the first page saying "Don't use this, it's a demo"
04:21 Yrol_Denjeah yup, i use mobf, seems to work nicely, lags down the game though very much at times
04:21 marktraceur MobF is CC-BY-SA-NC-ND
04:22 marktraceur The rest I don't remember.
04:22 VanessaE marktraceur: simple mobs is on my server, works generally okay as long as the server itself does :)
04:22 * marktraceur reviews
04:22 VanessaE (said server is down right now though, for unrelated reasons)
04:22 marktraceur OK, noted.
04:22 * marktraceur might put SM on the LPGC server if he ever gets round to that backlog
04:23 Yrol_Denjeah Hm, with technic i can make a saddle... so.. i coujld ride that foreballthrowing creature!
04:23 Johnyknowhow Wow, this I call busy for a irc channel
04:23 Yrol_Denjeah °touches missing eyebrows° on the other hand....
04:23 marktraceur Johnyknowhow: It's a game community, we have more people than you might be used to.
04:23 marktraceur And the people spend their off hours here, as opposed to their work hours
04:24 Johnyknowhow I know, but i used to play roblox, now that was busy
04:25 marktraceur Johnyknowhow: As compared to here? It's a game, but it's a free game, and the people who are here have already needed to get past their intense dislike for freedom, I'm sure many more have failed to. :P
04:28 Johnyknowhow I've been on this irc channel before, and it took 15 minutes for someone to say something
04:28 Johnyknowhow Then again, it's saturday.
04:28 marktraceur That contributes.
04:28 marktraceur Johnyknowhow: In general, IRC is not a synchronous medium.
04:29 marktraceur You need to be ultra-patient, especially when compared to other media.
04:29 Johnyknowhow If it was 3pm for me on a Wednesday I would not expect that many people.
04:29 Johnyknowhow Irc is kind of like a quick forum, or a slow chat.
04:29 marktraceur *shrug* the people were probably still here, just busy.
04:29 marktraceur Many people are logged in 24/7, but don't check it every second
04:29 Ego All these people sitting around talking about how slow IRC is..
04:30 Johnyknowhow I normally dont see 50 people chatting like cra
04:30 Frogcrush Lol, we just need more nerds online
04:30 Johnyknowhow Crazy all day in a irc channel
04:30 Johnyknowhow Lol
04:30 marktraceur Johnyknowhow: Try some of the Wikimedia channels. :)
04:30 Johnyknowhow .
04:30 Ego Depends on the network and then the channel..
04:31 Johnyknowhow I keep sending accidentally, stupid iPad
04:31 Johnyknowhow It has no keys, just a screen
04:31 Yrol_Denjeah " Many people are logged in 24/7, but don't check it every second" // And many use bots °frowns°
04:31 marktraceur Yrol_Denjeah: Many *noobs* maybe.
04:32 * marktraceur is a tad of a purist
04:32 Johnyknowhow Is there lots of commands to irc? I'm kind of.
04:32 Johnyknowhow New to it.
04:32 Ego Try /quote help
04:32 Johnyknowhow Stupid iPad again
04:32 Yrol_Denjeah marktraceur, i meant proxys or however it is called when they are here but arent actually there
04:32 Johnyknowhow AFK, bathroom breaks.
04:32 VanessaE I just leave my PC up 24/7 :P
04:33 marktraceur Yrol_Denjeah: There are multiple ways to accomplish that, but I guess you mean a bouncer.
04:33 Yrol_Denjeah Johnyknowhow TMI ;o)
04:33 Yrol_Denjeah marktraceur, ah, yes, that was the term
04:33 marktraceur Yrol_Denjeah: I use SSH, GNU screen, and irssi.
04:33 Yrol_Denjeah marktraceur, you perv!
04:34 marktraceur And how.
04:34 Yrol_Denjeah marktraceur, i think its spelled "ho" not "how" ;oP
04:34 Johnyknowhow It's to mu
04:34 Johnyknowhow Err iPad!
04:35 marktraceur Yrol_Denjeah: "And how" is a way to say that you agree with something.
04:35 marktraceur EDEVICEHASSTUPIDAUTOCOMPLETE
04:35 Johnyknowhow It's TMI to say I'm going to the bathroom? I didn't say a rude joke like some people
04:36 Yrol_Denjeah marktraceur, i know, i am just pulling your raceur ;o)
04:36 Yrol_Denjeah +t
04:39 Johnyknowhow A very stupid song is starting to come into my head about chatting away on my iPad.
04:41 Johnyknowhow Here is a joke (I like jokes): what do you call a dishonest apple device?
04:41 marktraceur ...par for the course?
04:41 VanessaE lol
04:42 Johnyknowhow A lie pad
04:42 Johnyknowhow LiePad. Lol
04:43 Yrol_Denjeah Johnyknowhow, what do you call a stupid male cow that is able to solve complicated math problems?
04:43 Yrol_Denjeah An oxymoron.
04:44 marktraceur Yrol_Denjeah: I don't get it, why is it able to solve complicated math problems?
04:45 Johnyknowhow Idk, what?
04:45 Ego How are people connecting to my server that isn't in the public list?
04:45 VanessaE it doesn't have to be.
04:45 Yrol_Denjeah marktraceur, its an ox ( male cow ) and a moron ( its stupid) and the whole thing is an oxymoron, becuase it can solve that stuff while being stupid
04:45 VanessaE someone probably just knows the IP/host.
04:45 Ego A half a dozen people have connected.
04:45 marktraceur Huh.
04:46 VanessaE that and your default port are all that's needed to connect.
04:46 Ego They're just trying all IPs?
04:46 marktraceur Yrol_Denjeah: Also, an ox is a totally separate species from a cow (IIRC)
04:46 Ego Sounds a bit of a silly thing to do.
04:46 Yrol_Denjeah marktraceur, you no fun! ;oP
04:46 marktraceur Ego: No, someone just knows the IP you're using
04:46 Ego I've even changed ports.
04:46 marktraceur Yrol_Denjeah: I'm really not
04:46 Ego A half a dozen people I don't know do, and suddenly know that I'm running a Minetest server.
04:47 Ego That doesn't make much sense.
04:47 Ego I started doing this 2 days ago.
04:47 marktraceur Ego: Are you running it on the same IP as your IRC client?
04:47 Ego Nope
04:47 Yrol_Denjeah Johnyknowhow, next one... what do you call a not hungry postwoman after her divorce?
04:48 Yrol_Denjeah A FedEx.
04:48 marktraceur Niiice.
04:48 VanessaE *groan*
04:49 Yrol_Denjeah marktraceur, hm, male cow = bull then ?
04:49 marktraceur Yup
04:50 Yrol_Denjeah but male elephant = bull too
04:50 marktraceur Yup
04:50 marktraceur Pretty sure a male ox is a bull as well :)
04:50 Yrol_Denjeah same with wales
04:50 Yrol_Denjeah errm whales
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04:53 * VanessaE puts a HV kitten on RealBadAngel's head.
04:54 RealBadAngel hi there
04:54 VanessaE good morning.
04:54 RealBadAngel just came back from night shift
04:54 Yrol_Denjeah hullos RealBadAngel
04:56 Johnyknowhow RealBadAngel, get some documentation for technic
04:56 Johnyknowhow Idk how to use a down converter
04:56 Johnyknowhow Or a nukereactor
04:56 Johnyknowhow And I justbf
04:56 Johnyknowhow Just found out you have to make a switching station
04:56 RealBadAngel easy to say ;) im working all the time, 8hrs shifts, 8 hrs pause, next shift
04:57 Johnyknowhow Which requires to much copper, 144ingots
04:57 Johnyknowhow 55steel
04:57 RealBadAngel you wont be making dozens of them
04:57 RealBadAngel recipe is just right
04:57 Johnyknowhow 8hour shift? That only makes 16hours, does your shift shift?
04:58 VanessaE Johnyknowhow: it does.
04:58 Johnyknowhow I'm going to play minetest, I'm sick of looking at my iPad
04:58 Johnyknowhow Bye
04:59 Yrol_Denjeah bye
05:00 RealBadAngel Johnyknowhow, machines are working all the time, ppl work in 3 shifts a day. i need extra money so im taking extra shifts. on saturday 10pm-6am, sunday, 2pm-10pm, on monday i will be back to my regular one 6am-2pm
05:02 RealBadAngel so something called weekend doesnt exist for me ;)
05:02 Yrol_Denjeah Has anyone time to go with me through an exception caused by using mobf with technic_game? as soon as i start the game, i crash :o(
05:03 RealBadAngel not to mention that during week im working for 16hrs, two shifts in a row, once or twice
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05:03 Ego What is mg_flags = nolight ?
05:03 RealBadAngel last month i made over 80hrs extra
05:05 NakedFury do they pay you $$$ for extra time on work?
05:05 RealBadAngel if they wont i wouldnt be making extra hours
05:06 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I think he means "time and a half" as we call it
05:06 RealBadAngel we do call that time "nadgodziny" over hours
05:08 RealBadAngel google says that translation is "overtime"
05:08 VanessaE yep
05:09 VanessaE we use the "time and a half" phrase literally here.  your regular pay * 1.5 for any amount of time > 40 hours/week
05:09 RealBadAngel i do circa 66hrs a week
05:10 VanessaE wow
05:10 RealBadAngel with base of 40
05:11 RealBadAngel but still, even with the extra money i get you would laugh at my salary
05:12 RealBadAngel i get something like 1800 PLN per month, 1200 is base
05:13 RealBadAngel that will make circa 550USD
05:15 RealBadAngel my friend in berlin gets more money as aid from goverment for being workless
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05:17 RealBadAngel and when somebody will tell me that Poland is in Europe and in EU i will punch him in his face
05:18 VanessaE now now
05:18 VanessaE just remember, it's cash in your pocket
05:19 RealBadAngel they made out of poland a market. thousands of foreign shops
05:19 RealBadAngel and cheap slaves
05:19 VanessaE (as a proportion of your income, you've got probably 10x the net worth I have right now...
05:19 RealBadAngel most of the polish factories were bought and closed down
05:20 RealBadAngel half of my basic salary goes to rent a flat
05:20 RealBadAngel we do have prices as anywhere else
05:21 RealBadAngel but salaries as in 3rd world
05:21 Yrol_Denjeah Does anyone here know how to resolve a "Could not load image "jeija_luacontroller_LED_D.png" while building texture"-error coming from mesecons?
05:21 RealBadAngel even better many things are more expensive here than in germany
05:22 RealBadAngel Yrol_Denjeah, try to update mesecons
05:22 RealBadAngel if the problem persist post an issue report
05:22 RealBadAngel it looks like missing texture file
05:23 Yrol_Denjeah RealBadAngel, ok, i think though i have the latest, will check that now
05:24 RealBadAngel mesecons were updated 3 weeks ago
05:24 Yrol_Denjeah oh dammit!
05:24 RealBadAngel and i dont have such errors
05:24 Yrol_Denjeah i found the error
05:24 RealBadAngel which was?
05:25 VanessaE RealBadAngel: someone (mighta been Yrol) was also having difficulty with the new default textures that are supposed to be in technic_game
05:25 RealBadAngel ? what kind of errors?
05:25 Yrol_Denjeah The error comes from the filename being in lower case
05:26 Yrol_Denjeah i really hate such languages!
05:26 VanessaE Yrol_Denjeah: your OS is crushing the filenames' case
05:26 Yrol_Denjeah VanessaE, no, i usually rename everything to lowercase
05:27 VanessaE Yrol_Denjeah: never change any filenames in a mod, except if the containing folder needs renamed
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05:31 Yrol_Denjeah Yes, Ma'am
05:32 VanessaE *wags finger naggingly* ;)
05:33 Yrol_Denjeah °hides behind wallpaper°
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05:35 Yrol_Denjeah ok, i downloaded mesecons again, checked thrice for the filenames, and still get that error :o(
05:36 Yrol_Denjeah oh... stupid me...
05:36 Yrol_Denjeah i looked at the earlier part of the debug file... hadnt delted it
05:37 Yrol_Denjeah °goes nuts°
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06:12 khonkhortisan Yrol_Denjeah, I've changed code, and changed it and changed it until I found out even a print statement didn't show
06:15 Yrol_Denjeah khonkhortisan, oookay  Â°is confused°
06:16 khonkhortisan I didn't recompile it, or restart it or something. Nothing I changed had any effect at all.
06:16 khonkhortisan false results
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06:33 hmmmm so
06:33 hmmmm CAN'T SIMMER THE ZIMMER
06:34 hmmmm CAN'T CORNER THE DORNER
06:35 VanessaE someone will take him out probably.
06:35 hmmmm i heard they entered all the jurors into the witness protection program already
06:35 Yrol_Denjeah dorner = michael dorn = worf = scifi version of chuck norris?
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06:48 khonkhortisan oh that on the news
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07:13 Yrol_Denjeah °waves°
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08:40 Jordach hey NekoGloopMkII
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09:25 Jordach NekoGloopMkII, sup
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09:35 PenguinDad Hi meldrian :-)
09:35 meldrian Hi PenguinDad, hello everyone else
09:36 meldrian i've got a question, i would like to start minetest with a specific resolution in window mode, but no matter what if there's an entry in den config file, it still starts with 1024*768
09:36 meldrian what do i have to change?
09:37 meldrian screenW = 1280; screenH = 720 (worked in the past) does not work right now
09:39 PenguinDad meldrian, I have the same problem.
09:40 Calinou works for me
09:40 Calinou meldrian: you put them on separate lines, right?
09:40 meldrian sure thing
09:43 Calinou someone got banned for /trying/ to grief on LandRush
09:43 Calinou this is stupid
09:48 Jordach Calinou, that's brandon's server right
09:48 * Jordach isnt sur
09:48 Jordach sure*
09:48 Calinou maybe
09:49 Jordach sfan5, dont tell people that they can register *.minetest.net, we dont want noobs asking about it
09:50 Calinou inb4 mlp.minetest.net
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09:52 Jordach INB4 ABUSE of *.minetest.net making major browsers block minetest.net
09:53 Calinou "avast thinks minetest.net is a bronie fansite."
09:54 Jordach Calinou, 'tis brandons
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10:00 PenguinDad After the LUA based menu was added. MT is getting crazy for me.
10:01 Calinou PenguinDad: works for me, except the "configure" screen which is still a bit broken
10:01 Calinou player count in server list is missing too
10:02 PenguinDad I mean my minetest.conf don't work properly.
10:03 sfan5 Jordach: ...
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10:21 Taoki Is the Mods menu broken in formspec? I don't see the mod selector any more
10:21 Calinou Taoki: it is quite broken
10:21 Taoki :/
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11:11 Taoki How do I get any mob to attack me in simple-mobs? Wanna test how intensive that is
11:11 Taoki I'm seeing some sand monsters, but they're being all nice ><
11:13 Jordach they usually are during the daytime
11:14 Jordach /time 0 for the fun Taoki
11:14 Taoki right :)
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11:15 PenguinDad Don't play with a DM!
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11:15 Taoki Sand monsters aren't attacking me either during nigh. Nor skeletons
11:16 PenguinDad Ask PilzAdam.
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11:17 Taoki Probably something disabled damage. Like the fact I have health turned off
11:17 Taoki Ah, maybe mobs only attack when dmaage is on
11:17 Taoki I play with it off cuz the only thing health does now is give you fall damage :P
11:18 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:18 Taoki yep works now
11:18 Taoki Hi
11:18 PenguinDad Hello
11:19 NekoGloopMkII sup
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11:30 PenguinDad Hi ungali B-)
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11:48 PenguinDad Welcome back Calinou
11:50 Calinou farewell front PenguinDad
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13:13 Exio4 hi PilzAdam!
13:13 PilzAdam hey ho
13:14 PilzAdam ehm..... no that ho
13:14 PilzAdam Exio4, I can play the woffle game in about half an hour or so
13:14 Exio4 puppy*
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13:26 MarkTwain hi
13:26 Limux_ Which sort of cookie?
13:37 MarkTwain I need a fast but secure way to encode a string in python
13:39 Exio4 what do you mean by encode?
13:39 Exio4 using what algorithm?
13:41 PenguinDad –
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13:52 MarkTwain Just so its no longer human-readable
13:52 MarkTwain and using a key
13:53 MarkTwain also no symbols are allowed
13:53 Exio4 uh?
13:53 MarkTwain encode==encrypt
13:53 MarkTwain md5 of base64
13:53 MarkTwain or sha1...
13:56 sfan5 MarkTwain: are you planning to reverse the encryption?
13:58 FreeFull md5 and sha1 are irreversible hashes, and base64 isn't encryption
13:58 MarkTwain No, i need to encrypt something very simply
13:58 FreeFull Well, none of them are encryption
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13:58 MarkTwain I dont care about security, just so average noob cannot hack it
13:59 sfan5 so what do you want now?
13:59 john_minetest md5 is irreversible but not uncrackable.
13:59 sfan5 john_minetest: md5 has collision
13:59 sfan5 +s
13:59 Exio4 MarkTwain: encode != encrypt
13:59 Exio4 go read what both of them are and then ask
14:00 john_minetest oh, so different messages can have the samd md5 hashes?
14:00 john_minetest *same
14:00 sfan5 john_minetest: yep
14:00 sfan5 !g md5 collision
14:00 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.mscs.dal.ca/~selinger/md5collision/
14:00 sfan5 ^ john_minetest
14:00 john_minetest minetest uses md5, right?
14:00 sfan5 MarkTwain: describe preciesely what you want
14:00 MarkTwain encode is encoding different types of text, encrypt is not...
14:00 sfan5 john_minetest: no, sha1 for
14:00 sfan5 caching files and passwords
14:01 FreeFull Well, the only hash that ensures there will be no collisions is one that produces an output at least as big as the input
14:01 MarkTwain I want to encode a string without using any external modules
14:01 john_minetest Does sha1 also have collisions?
14:01 MarkTwain string.replace, things like that
14:01 john_minetest So different minetest passwords work for one user?
14:02 sfan5 john_minetest: in theory yes
14:02 MarkTwain in practice?
14:02 sfan5 You can't reduce n number of bytes to a fixed number of bytes without losing entropy
14:02 FreeFull In practice nobody has found a way to produce two inputs that have the same output with sha1 yet
14:02 sfan5 ^ MarkTwain
14:03 sfan5 MarkTwain: whats your definition of encode?
14:03 MarkTwain make non-human readable
14:03 MarkTwain wait...
14:03 MarkTwain this is a trick
14:04 MarkTwain encode == different encoding; UTF-8, ANSI
14:04 sfan5 wat
14:04 MarkTwain encrypt = make non-human readable
14:04 sfan5 wrong
14:04 sfan5 encryption does make it non-human readable, but thats a side effect
14:04 sfan5 encryption is there to hide the original content
14:05 FreeFull Well, the point of encryption is that you can decrypt it again
14:05 sfan5 -> hashing != encryption
14:06 FreeFull The point of hashing is that given the hash, you can't get the original input
14:06 sfan5 MarkTwain: could you just tell us _exactly_ what you want to do
14:07 MarkTwain very, very simple encrypt/decrpyt
14:07 MarkTwain such as inverting alplabet
14:08 MarkTwain ABC = ZYX
14:09 sfan5 MarkTwain: you could use rot12
14:09 sfan5 *rot13
14:11 FreeFull MarkTwain: Any fool would be able to crack encryption that simple though
14:11 MarkTwain yep..
14:11 MarkTwain But i will try to code it myself
14:11 MarkTwain not hard is it?
14:11 Jordach very
14:12 Jordach imgur gold alarm: http://imgur.com/gallery/e7hnQRt
14:12 Jordach (comments being funny)
14:12 MarkTwain very not hard
14:12 FreeFull It's basically just some maths
14:13 MarkTwain abc=nop
14:14 Exio4 use rot26
14:14 Exio4 8)
14:18 john_minetest Some guys did md5-"hacking".
14:18 john_minetest By changing the file changing date they could change the file to the desired md5 hash.
14:19 MarkTwain http://pastie.org/8139955
14:19 FreeFull john_minetest: Only the data inside the file should matter
14:19 john_minetest FreeFull: And the data inside the file contains the timestamp
14:19 john_minetest MarkTwain: #python
14:20 MarkTwain john_minetest:tell that to the channel
14:21 john_minetest what's the matter with the channel?
14:24 MarkTwain im gonna make a python bot with all this shit  i have
14:24 MarkTwain if you are interested go to #mtmt
14:24 MarkTwain *if you want to see porn go to #mtmt
14:24 MarkTwain should get more people...
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14:27 john_minetest annoying...
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14:47 * Jordach wonders if !op now works
14:47 Jordach !op
14:47 Jordach dammit sfan5
14:47 PilzAdam !op
14:47 PilzAdam !deop
14:48 sfan5 Jordach: you need your cloak
14:48 Jordach MarkT is on his man . again
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14:48 Jordach !op
14:48 sfan5 uh
14:48 MinetestBot nope.avi
14:48 Jordach hm?
14:49 * Jordach grumbles
14:49 sfan5 regex is case-sentensive, right?
14:49 Jordach #regex
14:50 sfan5 derp
14:50 Jordach case-sensitive
14:50 Jordach wasnt it
14:50 sfan5 yes
14:51 sfan5 your cloak has "jordach" not "Jordach"
14:51 Jordach \o/
14:51 Jordach lol
14:51 Jordach fuck me
14:52 Jordach imgur has way too many ads: http://i.imgur.com/UydGGkf.png
14:52 Jordach > 2264
14:52 Jordach i am now officially...
14:52 Jordach !op
14:53 Jordach dammit
14:53 PilzAdam no u
14:53 Jordach no u
14:53 Jordach line length in sync
14:53 PilzAdam yes I
14:53 Jordach yisss
14:54 Jordach let's start a thunderstorm
14:54 Jordach <3 thunder
14:54 Jordach (and repeat)
14:54 PilzAdam you wanna play the woffle game?
14:54 Jordach nah
14:54 Jordach is that german for NOPE.AVI
14:55 Jordach PilzAdam, 29 celsius yesterday \o/
14:55 Jordach i didnt even wear a shirt!!!!
14:55 Jordach anyways -- going home; brb
14:57 PilzAdam #wolfgame
15:01 john_minetest saying that and then there is a game running
15:01 PilzAdam someone started with 4 players...
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15:02 john_minetest ...
15:03 sfan5 waffles
15:04 PilzAdam its over now, btw
15:04 PilzAdam me won as woffle
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15:04 PilzAdam +/
15:04 DS_ hi
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15:48 Jordach im back
15:48 * Jordach tries !op once more
15:48 Jordach !op
15:48 Jordach dammit MinetestBot
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15:50 Jordach !op
15:50 Jordach damn
15:50 Jordach doh -- needs op for that :P
15:51 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: op MinetestBot
15:51 * Jordach tries for the last time
15:51 Jordach !op
15:51 Jordach dammit fellas
15:54 Jordach sfan5, im just unaffliated/jordach/ here
15:54 Jordach no / before unafiliated
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15:58 sfan5 Jordach: I didn't say theres a / before unaffilated
15:58 Jordach huh - bug?
16:00 ShadowNinja Jordach: -\/$
16:01 ShadowNinja (Just ^unaffiliated\/jordach$)
16:04 Jordach sfan5, ^^^
16:05 sfan5 ShadowBot: the bot converts a simple "regex" to a real regex
16:06 sfan5 https://github.com/sfan5/phenny/blob/hostmaskident/bot.py#L23-L36
16:06 sfan5 ^ ShadowNinja
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16:07 ShadowNinja Then just unaffiliated/jordach. Although real regexes would be better.
16:10 Jordach i think ShadowNinja is a shady person
16:10 Jordach :>
16:10 ShadowNinja Seems phenny is python <= 2 only...
16:11 Jordach sfan5, is privs able to grant all privs?
16:11 ShadowNinja Of course you can probably fix that with 2to3.
16:11 ShadowNinja Jordach: Yes.
16:11 Jordach its 5:11pm, not 2:58
16:11 Jordach :D
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16:15 Jordach server:least
16:15 Jordach !server:least
16:15 Jordach sfan5, how do i work the server comand
16:16 Jordach command*
16:17 ShadowNinja Jordach: ,,(server --players lowest)
16:17 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: 0gb.us's simple server | 0gb.us | clients: 0/2 | version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.279
16:17 Jordach tch, my server is contacting the place
16:17 ShadowNinja (But it only works for me. :-( )
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16:21 PenguinDad server --players highest
16:22 PenguinDad !server --players lowest
16:22 MinetestBot PenguinDad: No results
16:22 Jordach !server --players highest
16:22 MinetestBot Jordach: No results
16:22 Jordach !server --players
16:22 MinetestBot Jordach: No results
16:22 Jordach !server --ping
16:22 MinetestBot Jordach: No results
16:22 ShadowNinja Jordach: MinetestBot uses a different format.
16:22 Jordach aw
16:23 ShadowNinja Jordach: You can PM ShadowBot.
16:23 Jordach ShadowBot should have a code base child with ShadowBot
16:23 Jordach MinetestBot*
16:24 ShadowNinja I could do it in a much more standard way with a lot less code, so I did.
16:30 sfan5 !server players:least
16:30 MinetestBot sfan5: 0gb.us's simple server | 0gb.us | Clients: 0/100, 2 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.273
16:30 sfan5 ^ Jordach like that
16:30 * Jordach turns the fan on
16:30 Jordach cool breeze :D
16:31 Jordach sfan5, fixed !op for me yet
16:31 sfan5 Jordach: should be fixed...
16:31 Jordach !op
16:31 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/VJZSGcB.png
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16:32 sfan5 Jordach: i think I know why it doesn't work now
16:32 Jordach http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cqKP7xr2TXc/TyX2XDkglbI/AAAAAAAAAFA/CKkyJ3ckLOQ/s1600/CoolStoryBroHouse.jpg
16:32 Jordach joking
16:33 Jordach it is a cool story though
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16:36 Jordach MinetestBot!
16:36 MinetestBot Jordach!
16:36 Jordach start the drumroll
16:36 sfan5 Jordach: try now
16:36 Jordach !op
16:36 sfan5 goddamnit
16:36 sfan5 derp
16:36 sfan5 Jordach: again
16:36 Jordach !op
16:37 sfan5 meh
16:37 Jordach https://google.com
16:37 Jordach !title
16:37 MinetestBot Jordach: Google
16:37 Jordach she does listen to my comands
16:37 Jordach commands*
16:38 ShadowNinja Jordach: /msg ShadowBot help register
16:38 ShadowNinja sfan5: Is there a way to define a table of functions in python like in Lua?
16:39 sfan5 ShadowNinja: table of functions....
16:39 Jordach ShadowNinja, registered
16:39 ShadowNinja like {func1 = function(a, b) dostuf end}
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16:41 sfan5 ShadowNinja: http://pastie.org/8140251
16:42 ShadowNinja Hmmm, so not inline...
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16:42 webdesigner97 hi
16:42 webdesigner97 I'm getting a weird error in my mod:
16:42 webdesigner97 minetest:set_node(pos,{name="firedetector:detector_on"})
16:43 webdesigner97 Error: Bad argument #4 to set_node (string expected, got nil). What argument #4?
16:44 ShadowNinja webdesigner97: minetest*.* set_node
16:44 kahrl ShadowNinja: http://docs.python.org/2/reference/expressions.html#lambda
16:44 webdesigner97 oh. yes. typo :D
16:44 ShadowNinja I know about lamdbas...
16:44 webdesigner97 now I feel silly
16:49 Jordach !server players:least
16:49 MinetestBot Jordach: 0gb.us's simple server | 0gb.us | Clients: 0/100, 2 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.279
16:49 webdesigner97 what does "gain" in minetest.sound_play() do?
16:50 Calinou volume, webdesigner97
16:50 webdesigner97 great! Perfect for my firedetector mod ;)
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16:51 * webdesigner97 makes it loud
16:51 Calinou le fuckers
16:52 Calinou "slightly idle"
16:52 Calinou best reason 2013
16:53 webdesigner97 ?
16:54 Calinou #wolfgame
16:54 webdesigner97 max_hear_distance doesn't work for me
16:54 PenguinDad ?
16:54 Jordach ShadowNinja, is server requried for your areas
16:54 webdesigner97 the file is in mono
16:54 ShadowNinja Jordach: ?
16:54 Jordach your protector mod
16:54 Jordach (as the admin, what are the privs needed)
16:54 ShadowNinja You need a server to run it...
16:55 Jordach !up mt.viewskew.com
16:55 MinetestBot mt.viewskew.com:30000 is up (237ms)
16:55 Jordach cheers sweetie
16:55 ShadowNinja No, "areas" is the admin priv.
16:55 Jordach eg, server
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16:59 Jordach ShadowNinja, shit: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5874668/
16:59 Jordach cant even dig a tree!
16:59 Jordach using stable
17:02 Jordach i might make the first MGV7 server
17:06 webdesigner97 maybe it's because my gain (10) also multiplies with max_hear_distance?
17:09 ShadowNinja Jordach: It wouldn't be the first.
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17:11 suntonlain hello minetest owners ! :-)
17:12 ShadowNinja Jordach: ix -g 6Er | base64 -d > areas.zip
17:14 ShadowNinja Jordach: Or tell me of a good file sharing site.
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17:26 suntonlain Helllllllllooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ! ;-))))
17:27 PenguinDad Does anybody know a good picture upload service?
17:28 suntonlain ;-(
17:28 suntonlain Is here anybody with a easy server ?
17:29 PilzAdam PenguinDad, http://mg.viewskew.com/
17:29 sokomine easy server? in which way? can you be more specific?
17:29 sokomine yes, the viewskew site is good for hosting images
17:29 PilzAdam PenguinDad, its hosted by someone of the Minetest community
17:29 suntonlain Welll, i want to entry easy
17:30 PenguinDad Thx for the hint.
17:30 john_minetest PenguinDad: pastebin.sabayon.org
17:31 suntonlain I will start the client and I will write here may experience
17:32 suntonlain ;-)
17:32 Jordach PilzAdam, what's the conf setting for mgv7
17:33 PilzAdam mg_name = v7
17:33 PilzAdam you could see that in minetest.conf.example, though
17:33 suntonlain :-( ups, sorry just i started my tundra
17:33 suntonlain i will start minetest
17:37 suntonlain he he he just now i am in a server. a server with his IP
17:38 suntonlain I forget his name
17:38 suntonlain meean his IP
17:38 suntonlain :-))
17:40 john_minetest Will anybody here participate in next Ludum Dare?
17:40 * Jordach wonders if a game for minetest counts
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17:40 Jordach (the engine)
17:40 john_minetest It is a game using the mintest engine
17:41 john_minetest It is like people using the Unreal engine or the Unity engine.
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17:41 john_minetest !up VanessaE.mine.bz
17:41 MinetestBot VanessaE.mine.bz:30000 seems to be down
17:41 suntonlain oh, unity . grat engine, but complex
17:41 webdesigner97 Is somebody here who is good at mesecons API?
17:42 john_minetest I use torque3d engine now.
17:42 ShadowNinja john_minetest: It ran out of nodeids.
17:42 john_minetest lol
17:42 john_minetest Too heavy modded.
17:42 suntonlain torque3d ?
17:43 john_minetest torque3d is a MIT-licensed game engine
17:43 suntonlain is a havy engine
17:43 john_minetest It's cool, I'll use it for a project.
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17:44 john_minetest guys on #gamedev reccomended it as free alternative to unity.
17:44 suntonlain is cool but run slow in poor computers
17:45 suntonlain i like minetest beacouse he can run in poor computers
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17:46 suntonlain if i have a performant computer i use ather tipes of servers, like OpenSim for example
17:47 sfan5 webdesigner97: why are you asking?
17:47 sfan5 !deop
17:47 suntonlain but for my HannSpree netbppk, minetest is good
17:47 suntonlain :-)
17:47 suntonlain netbook
17:47 webdesigner97 sfan: Is there a function to check wheter a node at (pos) receives power?
17:48 webdesigner97 I want to build a while("node receives power") loop
17:48 webdesigner97 because I need to manually loop a sound
17:50 webdesigner97 w8, I found an alternative
17:52 webdesigner97 It works :)
17:55 NekoGloopMkIII meow?
17:55 suntonlain ;-)
17:55 john_minetest suntonlain: irrlicht runs fast, yeah, but I like a click-together-engine more because it makes it easier to build projects with story.
17:56 suntonlain John, if you want tell me hor i can help you ?
17:56 suntonlain ;-)
17:56 suntonlain how
17:58 suntonlain john: if i understand well, you are developer ?
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18:01 john_minetest I am just in a hobbyist team developing a small game.
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18:01 john_minetest A triple-A title, of course. Budget is 5 millions ;)
18:02 john_minetest No, just kidding, actually we have no budget and we have been idling for 2 month now...
18:02 dharc hey, ERROR[main]: WARNING: Font file was not found. Using default font.
18:02 dharc what is that?
18:02 suntonlain oho hoo, i am a luky man ! Hello John ! I need help for seting my server
18:02 suntonlain ;-)
18:03 suntonlain he need description, but how i do this ?
18:04 suntonlain where must to weite his description ?
18:04 suntonlain write
18:06 john_minetest Minetest server?
18:07 suntonlain yes , latest version
18:07 john_minetest look in the server creation guide in forum's server section.
18:07 john_minetest there you should find how to do it.
18:07 suntonlain ok, i will read there with more attention
18:08 suntonlain ;-)
18:09 suntonlain John you like to play with 3d chat servers ?
18:10 suntonlain exist 2 very easy  engines; seamless3d and BSCollaborate
18:11 suntonlain bscollaborate and BSContact,
18:11 suntonlain ;-)
18:12 suntonlain they are programable in x3d, vrml and javascript.
18:14 suntonlain with minetest is cool that he use some application like server or client
18:15 suntonlain is a cool thing
18:15 suntonlain :-)
18:15 suntonlain and work more easy like realxtend tundra for example
18:17 suntonlain i want to have a minetest server, us my litle site representation server
18:20 Ego Can I make a custom player texture without changing character.png ? (Changes everyone's)
18:21 kahrl I find it somewhat amusing that minetest has drawn 1 or 2 black pixels in the top left corner for years. And nobody seemed to notice. :D
18:21 Ego JUST NOTICED, can't unseeeee.
18:21 suntonlain OMG ! I have 6 visitors in my world !
18:22 Ego Ban them allll.
18:22 VanessaE kahrl: I noticed that the first time I took a screenshot with PrintScreen.
18:22 * webdesigner97 will post a preview of his new mod in som minutes for you
18:22 suntonlain In my stupid world ! :-))
18:22 VanessaE never really thought to mention it though.
18:22 ShadowNinja kahrl: Just noticed that...
18:23 suntonlain Oh, Ego, nooooo ! Why ?
18:23 Ego They're probably all just awful.
18:24 suntonlain eh, no problem ! a new day, a new world !
18:24 suntonlain ;-)
18:25 * Jordach tries op again
18:25 Jordach !op
18:25 Jordach MinetestBot, cmon girl
18:25 NekoGloop http://imgur.com/gallery/71AJU
18:26 ShadowNinja :-)
18:26 * Jordach puts on a white glove then slaps ShadowNinja
18:27 * Jordach removes the glove
18:27 Jordach now the gloves are off
18:27 Jordach :P
18:27 * john_minetest puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head
18:27 john_minetest I love portal 2.
18:27 * sokomine grabs the kitten and runs away with it
18:27 Jordach i have it on xbox
18:28 Jordach and beat it
18:28 Jordach now dont get me started on lemons
18:28 john_minetest When life gives you lemons, don't take these.
18:28 john_minetest Make life take the lemons back!
18:28 john_minetest Get mad!
18:28 john_minetest I don't want your lemons.
18:28 webdesigner97 Ok, here is the video: http://youtu.be/nHIazk7IorU (Bad quality)
18:28 NekoGloop This is the part where he kills us / This is the part where I kill you / Chapter 9: The part where he kills you / Achievement unlocked: The Part where he kills you / Soundtrack song name: The part where he kills you
18:28 john_minetest I will tell my engineers to build a combustible lemon that burns your house down!
18:29 NekoGloop I think it's the part where he kills you.
18:29 NekoGloop Not sure.
18:30 dharc hey someone help me?
18:31 ShadowNinja dharc: With what?
18:32 suntonlain Webdesigner, you have a like and a comment from me ...
18:32 suntonlain ;-)
18:32 webdesigner97 that was you? :D
18:32 webdesigner97 i commented too
18:32 suntonlain ;-)
18:32 dharc this error: ERROR[main]: WARNING: Font file was not found. Using default font.
18:33 webdesigner97 The mod still needs some bugfixes. Maybe you have noticed the second alert starting although it was already started
18:33 webdesigner97 (the long whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo) one
18:33 ShadowNinja dharc: You may have set a font path in your conf. You can probably ignore that.
18:34 dharc the game doesnt open
18:36 dharc ShadowNinja: http://paste.debian.net/16051/
18:37 ShadowNinja It should still open. It says it is usinga default.
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18:43 suntonlain https://www.facebook.com/suntonlain
18:43 suntonlain ;-)
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18:48 suntonlain OMG ! Calonou ! A lotof boss are here in this chat !
18:49 suntonlain Calinou
18:49 NekoGloop Calinou is just some dude
18:49 PilzAdam ^
18:49 PilzAdam OMG! NekoGloop! you are a god!
18:50 Calinou suntonlain, it depends on channels
18:50 Calinou in #minecraft, i'm a basement deweller moron, in #minetest, i'm moreblocks creator, in #redeclipse i'm flamer noob
18:50 suntonlain hmm, he hase not a web page in a source code site ?
18:50 Calinou :-)
18:50 PilzAdam Calinou, and your a mod
18:50 VanessaE Calinou: and in all three, you're a troll ;)
18:50 PilzAdam ^
18:51 NekoGloop PilzAdam, what are you talking about
18:52 PilzAdam making fun of suntonlain
18:52 suntonlain :-))
18:52 suntonlain Tx Adam
18:52 PilzAdam np
18:52 suntonlain Ilove pilz beer
18:55 * webdesigner97 loves the modding API
18:56 Calinou meanwhile: minecraft players still love the MC modding, where it involves editing json files, renaming 1 directory and 2 files, removing a META-INF and putting random files in a .jar file.
18:57 Calinou and there is no mod downloading, clients must download a mod to join a server that adds content. :P
18:57 suntonlain can you make a good editor foe minetest orldsb?
18:57 Calinou suntonlain, no.
18:57 Calinou why?
18:57 Calinou you can use WorldEdit
18:58 suntonlain you kneu ? minetest is great
18:58 suntonlain but his worlds are huge
18:58 suntonlain knew
18:59 Calinou you can use fast mode
18:59 Calinou you could edit minetest.conf to make fast mode even faster :P
18:59 Calinou (tip: /set command to do this quickly)
18:59 suntonlain i like fcraft  and omen editor
19:00 suntonlain i like to have worlds with a few bloks
19:00 Calinou omen is for classic :P
19:00 Calinou few blocks?
19:00 suntonlain yesss, i like classic
19:00 suntonlain yess, just a few bloks
19:00 Calinou classic is by far inferior to minetest
19:00 Calinou you can make flat maps already
19:00 suntonlain a plane world
19:01 suntonlain yess, a flat world
19:01 Calinou mg_flags = flat
19:01 Calinou in minetest.conf
19:01 suntonlain flat maps. i love flat maps
19:03 kahrl Calinou: and now it also involves getting the new launcher to coöperate
19:03 kahrl (re: minecraft modding)
19:03 suntonlain welll, i am not a warior i am a creative games lover
19:03 suntonlain ;-)
19:04 Calinou kahrl, well, that's why you edit json files and rename files
19:04 Calinou so that it works with new launcher
19:04 kahrl ah.
19:04 kahrl thought that was a general comment
19:05 * kahrl hasn't done any MC modding and doesn't plan to
19:05 sokomine does anyone use colored blocks? from i.e. coloredwood, unifiedbricks etc.?
19:05 suntonlain you talk about  minetest 047 version ?
19:05 VanessaE zero point four point seven!
19:05 NekoGloop She has a point
19:05 suntonlain isore beter like his old versions
19:05 NekoGloop Two of them, in fact
19:06 suntonlain is more
19:06 ShadowNinja Heh,
19:06 suntonlain 07 ? exist 07 version ?
19:07 suntonlain is about points
19:07 suntonlain :-)))
19:08 suntonlain yess, 0,4,7 is the greatest version of minetest
19:08 Calinou of course it is
19:08 Calinou the latest is always the best
19:09 NekoGloop unless it's broken
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19:10 iqualfragile could i tbe that the only think nekogloop ever does in this channel is putting kittens on peoples heads?
19:11 NekoGloop and saying stuff about glooptest updating, whenever I do that
19:11 Calinou iqualfragile, he also puts ponies
19:11 iqualfragile oh, thats new
19:11 NekoGloop no, you do ponies :P
19:11 suntonlain He he he, just i copyed thid window for later reading !
19:12 NekoGloop You do realize we have logs, right?
19:12 Calinou yeah
19:12 Calinou 449 "you do realize" have been used in this channel, 51 until mobs are added to minetest
19:12 Jordach why is it that removing files from a flash drive is faster than adding them
19:12 suntonlain good chat this freenode ! What ? he has log file ?
19:12 Calinou Jordach, they are not actually removed
19:12 Jordach irc.minetest.ru
19:12 Calinou they are removed from the file system, not physically
19:13 Jordach Calinou, well, cut moves at 1mb+, yet adding is like 200kb
19:13 VanessaE Jordach: deleting a file just deletes the reference from the directory and de-allocates the space used.
19:13 Calinou 200kb/s sequential write?
19:13 Jordach Calinou, direct writing
19:13 Calinou VanessaE, with TRIM there is actual deletion, IIRC
19:13 ShadowNinja Jordach: ^ Unless you use something like shred.
19:13 VanessaE Calinou: true, though I guess most people don't use TRIM yet
19:13 Jordach Calinou, you can easily do this: smash the chips under a hammer
19:13 Calinou ShadowNinja, TRIM isn't shred, it's something used to make SSDs faster
19:14 Jordach or melt them in fires
19:14 Calinou (not lose performance when they are 50% full or more)
19:14 ShadowNinja Calinou: I wasn't talking about TRIM. I was talking about shred.
19:14 Calinou ah
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19:25 Calinou john_minetest, play at next game :P
19:25 Calinou I died
19:26 * john_minetest puts a kitten on Calinou's ghost
19:26 Calinou kitten falls to ground
19:26 sfan5 :(
19:27 VanessaE poor kitty
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19:35 john_minetest cat has 9 lives and always lands on feet.
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19:36 john_minetest colored bears have 27 lifes
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19:37 NekoGloopMkIII WHY'D YOU DROP ME
19:40 john_minetest kittens fall through ghosts...
19:41 john_minetest But kittens and cats can sense ghosts.
19:41 Calinou ponies fly through ghosts
19:41 john_minetest Lol, MLP is strange...
19:42 sfan5 ^
19:42 NekoGloopMkIII s/MLP is/all internet sensations are/
19:43 Calinou internet sensations?
19:43 VanessaE s/internet\ //
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20:04 * sokomine looks around if she can catch someone for testing something
20:05 Calinou testing what?
20:05 webdesigner97 what, soko?
20:05 Jordach Calinou, come to mt.viewskew.com
20:05 * john_minetest is interested
20:05 Jordach it has MGV7
20:05 Calinou already saw mgv7 once, it looks... boring :P
20:05 Calinou only stone
20:05 Calinou also, i'm on my netbook, and playing WG
20:05 webdesigner97 me too :D
20:06 Jordach Calinou, my server has biomes now
20:06 Jordach a snow biome, desert and normal now
20:06 sokomine a machine that can paint blocks. it's in an early stage
20:07 sokomine i need some feedback if it's usable and understandable
20:09 Exio4 [17:05:53] <Calinou> only stone
20:09 Exio4 it is biome-based
20:09 Calinou there are no biomes by default
20:09 Exio4 define some biomes and you will see something that isn't stone
20:10 Exio4 define some biomes and you will see something that isn't stone
20:10 Exio4 they are defined in lua
20:10 Exio4 as it is a WIP, there aren't v7 biomes defined right now
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20:28 webdesigner97 Minetest has trouble removing sounds in the world...
20:29 sokomine world up again...please try not to interact with mobs. especially killing is forbidden. they're there for another purpose
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20:50 RealBadAngel hi all
20:51 Exio4 hi RBA
20:57 Kacey hi RBA! i love the new changes to technic
20:58 iqualfragile technic? changes?
20:58 VanessaE afternoon, RBA.
20:59 iqualfragile evening, its evenig
20:59 VanessaE it's not quite 5pm here so :P
20:59 VanessaE (or my clock is slow)
21:00 Exio4 6PM here right now
21:00 RealBadAngel iqualfragile, technic and technic_game recently got many changes
21:00 Exio4 [18:00:29] <Exio4> 6PM here right now
21:01 iqualfragile care to summarize? or link to a summary?
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21:03 RealBadAngel iqualfragile, there were too many changes. but some of them, new machines, nuclear reactor, forth computer
21:03 john_minetest nuclear bomb also?
21:03 RealBadAngel no
21:05 RealBadAngel since now on the mod a few ppl are working, number of changes grows rapidly
21:10 * ShadowNinja is rewriting part of the electrical system.
21:10 NekoGloopMkIII Will the cables not only connect to the bottom now? :P
21:13 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Change ContentFeatures array to a vector 112dbba7c4 2013-07-14T14:06:31-07:00 http://git.io/J7tCJA
21:14 sfan5 !server ipv6
21:15 MinetestBot sfan5: ipv6 only testing | 2002:50f0:d845:2:1146:6ab1:73a5:4dca:1234 | Clients: 0/100, 0 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.155
21:15 sfan5 ^ /me is jealous, doesn't have IPv6
21:15 ShadowNinja NekoGloopMkIII: There is a bug where things power from any side now. But cables connect properly when you place a machine now.(On my local copy)
21:15 ShadowNinja ^
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21:16 ShadowNinja Um, the port.
21:16 ShadowNinja It blends in with the address.
21:16 sfan5 ShadowNinja: fixing it right now
21:18 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: reload Minetest
21:18 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded.
21:18 ShadowNinja Done.
21:24 VanessaE yay!  my server works agaiN!
21:24 * Exio4 gives kahrl a cookie
21:25 ShadowNinja ShadowBot: server --name VanessaE
21:25 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: VanessaE's Server | vanessae.mine.bz | Clients: 1/8 | Version: 0.4.7 | Ping: 0.226
21:26 NekoGloopMkII VanessaE, including latest glooptest?
21:26 Exio4 moar nodes!
21:27 ShadowNinja :-( ContentFeatures::deSerialize(): Too large content id: 4096
21:28 VanessaE dunno if it's the latest or not
21:28 NekoGloopMkII Do you have a file called "glooptest_gem_ruby.png"?
21:28 VanessaE glooptest is 0.0.4 at present, commit ID 162ec4526[...]
21:29 NekoGloopMkII mmm, that's a tad outdated. 0.0.4 stable.
21:29 ShadowNinja Yippe, everything has to rebuild...
21:29 VanessaE I don't have enough free nodeids left to handle any updates.
21:29 ShadowNinja (And I just updated...)
21:30 NekoGloopMkII Well, blame idiots for imposing any limitation
21:31 Kacey bbl
21:35 VanessaE ShadowNinja: damn you're quick
21:43 john_minetest loading nodes...
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21:47 john_minetest Oooooh, outdated version
21:56 VanessaE john_minetest: yep. you need to pull from git.
22:04 kahrl http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99717#p99717
22:04 kahrl !title
22:04 MinetestBot kahrl: [0.4.8] Resizable node definition vector (Page 1) — News — Minetest Forums
22:05 Exio4 :D
22:07 * sfan5 just made a new Win32 build
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22:13 john_minetest "you could be affecten when nearly 4000 nodes AND nodes of deleted mods are there"
22:13 john_minetest is this a programmer and or a programmer or?
22:14 VanessaE that's an AND.
22:14 kahrl it's an AND and there is a parenthesis around the list
22:14 VanessaE both conditions have to be met.
22:14 john_minetest ok
22:14 VanessaE you must have enough defined nodes in your mod set and undefined nodes in your map to total more than 4096.
22:14 john_minetest People should use && && || in statements more often :D
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22:15 john_minetest no, wait, && || || , because not both used at the same time.
22:15 kahrl and "m||e often"
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22:17 VanessaE heh
22:18 VanessaE you mean,  && "m||e often"
22:20 kahrl indeed, s||ry about that :P
22:23 john_minetest Do !w||ry.
22:23 Uberi|AoS *groan*
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