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MinetestBot |
GIT: proller github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Masterserver mods fix a70993d6d2 2013-07-12T17:11:26-07:00 http://git.io/H6gH5A |
| 00:17 |
* Kacey |
is setting up a server |
| 00:20 |
* john_minetest |
just reactivated his second project |
| 00:20 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, Y U NO wolfgame? |
| 00:21 |
Kacey |
uuuuum... huh |
| 00:21 |
PilzAdam |
!deop |
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ShadowNinja |
Hmmm, why the ops? |
| 00:31 |
sdzen |
why not? |
| 00:31 |
sdzen |
:) |
| 00:31 |
PilzAdam |
ShadowNinja, chanserv being unstable |
| 00:31 |
PilzAdam |
*was |
| 00:31 |
ShadowNinja |
Ok. |
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kaeza |
how do you use register_on_mapgen_init() ? |
| 00:32 |
* Taoki |
tries to understand why battery boxes don't connect to wires |
| 00:33 |
kaeza |
I have this simple function: minetest.register_on_mapgen_init(function(mp) mp.mgname = "singlenode" end) |
| 00:33 |
kaeza |
but it's still using v6 |
| 00:34 |
* ShadowNinja |
looks at technic's wires.lua. |
| 00:34 |
* ShadowNinja |
is going to be rewriting again. |
| 00:35 |
VanessaE |
maybe you need the switching station |
| 00:36 |
Taoki |
How do you connect different voltage cables in technic? |
| 00:36 |
Taoki |
Wanna give this a try till I head off to bed |
| 00:36 |
ShadowNinja |
Taoki: There is a converter but it is broken ATM. |
| 00:38 |
Taoki |
Can't find how to power battery boxes :P Since they only connect to HV cables and generators to LV cables |
| 00:39 |
Taoki |
any idea? |
| 00:39 |
Taoki |
Sadly technic doesn't have a tutorial yet |
| 00:39 |
ShadowNinja |
This part at least uses tabs for indentation -- Where it indents at all. And I bet about 70% of this is duplicated in the LV and MV wires. |
| 00:39 |
ShadowNinja |
Taoki: Use a nuclear reactor or a HV solar array. |
| 00:42 |
Taoki |
Works, nice |
| 00:42 |
Taoki |
Any difference between solar panels or solar arrays? I'm getting the impression of some duplicate stuff at first |
| 00:43 |
ShadowNinja |
Solar arays are a lot more powerfull. Sollar pannals are also only LV. |
| 00:45 |
Taoki |
nice |
| 00:45 |
Taoki |
RBA let me be part of the technic team BTW, and gave me commit access. So now I feel bad and weird that I'm an admin for something I barely even understand yet >.< |
| 00:48 |
ShadowNinja |
The thing we realy need is communication. We have no way, other than issues to contact a certain colaborator... |
| 00:52 |
Taoki |
BTW. I mentioned to RBA that I'm thinking about adding my Structures mod to technic_game, with a set of industrial buildings using all of the machines and stuff. You can let me know if you agree, if anyone else is interested or not |
| 00:52 |
Taoki |
Need to go in a minute now tho |
| 00:53 |
ShadowNinja |
I haven't looked at it. It is fine with me as long as it doesn't slow the game/mapgen down much. |
| 00:54 |
Taoki |
Not at all. Especially not that it uses schematics |
| 00:54 |
Taoki |
Only tested it locally thoi |
| 00:56 |
Taoki |
Time for me to head off, night |
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ShadowNinja |
Soooo much duplication. And I don't even know how to fix it. |
| 01:11 |
ShadowNinja |
Also using floats for bools... |
| 01:21 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 01:55 |
Ego |
Glomie's protector mod doesn't protect against people destroying the blocks around it, they just can't build or destroy the actual block.. /sigh |
| 01:55 |
Ego |
Anyone have a mirror for protectorplus ? |
| 01:55 |
Ego |
Maybe that one will work |
| 01:58 |
Ego |
Just wanna stop this jerkface kid from trolling my land, urgh. |
| 01:59 |
Ego |
Maybe LandClaim mod.. |
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pizza2232 |
I need a Wazuclan admin. This kid won't stop swearing 0_0 |
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NakedFury |
do we have chat controls in the game? |
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Ego |
There's Chat Plus mod which allows /ignore |
| 02:46 |
Ego |
Is there a way to make the world... smaller? I really don't need this much space, it's huge like X-Box. |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
the world is only as big as that which you've explored. |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
to keep it small, simply don't explore outside of whatever you consider to be an acceptable range |
| 02:56 |
Ego |
Well, I was trying to see if the world ever.. ended. |
| 02:56 |
Ego |
Lol |
| 02:57 |
Ego |
Okay, so it only dynamically renders? |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
it does, at around +/- 31000 in all directions, but the whole thing is not rendered initially |
| 02:57 |
Ego |
That is sofa king huge... Lol |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
correct, it renders and stores that which you've explored (and surrounding areas) |
| 02:57 |
Ego |
Thanks |
| 03:19 |
kaeza |
and yet some people whine about the world being "too small" :| |
| 03:28 |
pehjota |
My world is too realistic. Fixplz. |
| 03:28 |
VanessaE |
there are certain illegal chemical substances that will fix that, but they have rather bad side effects :) |
| 03:29 |
sdzen |
nutmeg? |
| 03:29 |
pehjota |
VanessaE: Oh my, chemicals to make mgv6 less realistic? :) |
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VanessaE |
pehjota: they have a tendency to make *everything* less realistic :D |
| 03:30 |
VanessaE |
otherwise, switch to the flat mode for the map generator. unless you're from, like, western Kansas, that should be about as unrealistic as you'll get :) |
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sdzen |
why to I keep thinking die martin is short for dietrich |
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kaeza |
:? |
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sdzen |
:) |
| 03:31 |
kaeza |
my other nick is worse :P |
| 03:32 |
kaeza |
forgot to group it :P |
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Yrol_Denjeah |
Greetings :o) |
| 06:22 |
khonkhortisan |
better than too late |
| 06:30 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
omg! what happened to the other half? |
| 06:30 |
VanessaE |
they kicked his butt and went back to bed :D |
| 06:30 |
khonkhortisan |
The channel comes to life, thinking up scenarios |
| 06:35 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
So, i thought i give this Minetest a try today, i only heard about minecraft but never got it nor played it nor knew whats it really about. It looks really interesting |
| 06:36 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
( it = minetest ) |
| 06:37 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
And the first thing i noticed were the moving cube shaped clouds and i instantly thought "hey! maybe someone made a tron mod..." |
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webdesigner97 |
hello |
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Yrol_Denjeah |
webdesigner97, hello |
| 09:24 |
webdesigner97 |
I've got a little question about minetest.get_connected_players(). The API says that's it is a list with ObjectRefs. How can I access one in it? I saved minetest.get_connected_players() to a variable (let's call it X) and tried to access X.singleplayer => But it's nil |
| 09:29 |
webdesigner97 |
Or is there a better way to check wether a player is online? |
| 09:30 |
kahrl |
webdesigner97: minetest.get_player_by_name |
| 09:30 |
webdesigner97 |
is it nil when offline? |
| 09:30 |
kahrl |
yes |
| 09:31 |
webdesigner97 |
great |
| 09:31 |
webdesigner97 |
thx |
| 09:32 |
webdesigner97 |
it works! thank you :) |
| 09:32 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
Is the order of mods important? |
| 09:33 |
webdesigner97 |
what do you mean? |
| 09:34 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
As some mods depend on others and because i am getting "configuration is inconstistent"-errors, is the order of mods important? |
| 09:35 |
kahrl |
it is important but the mod loader handles it automatically |
| 09:35 |
kahrl |
that message usually means you're missing a required mod |
| 09:36 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
Ah, okies, thanks |
| 09:36 |
kahrl |
not sure if the GUI shows what mod that is, but debug.txt definitely will |
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| 09:47 |
Taoki |
Anyone know if there's a wiki with at least the crafting receipes for technic_game? There's really no resource to learn it from :( |
| 09:49 |
Calinou |
Taoki: doesn't the forum thread explain it? :P |
| 09:50 |
Taoki |
Calinou: All of the items and stuff? I didn't see a full tutorial on the forum |
| 09:50 |
Calinou |
oh |
| 09:50 |
Calinou |
read the code then :| |
| 09:51 |
Taoki |
:< |
| 09:51 |
Taoki |
That moment when you learn to use something by reading the code. AKA the geek's manual :P |
| 09:53 |
Calinou |
gentoo manual* |
| 09:54 |
Taoki |
Really though, it would take me ages to understand functionality from the code... even if I'm pretty ok with Lua. |
| 09:54 |
Taoki |
At least some explainatory YT videos would help. I looked on RBA's channel but they seemed a bit too vague for understanding it |
| 09:57 |
webdesigner97 |
what do I need to pass to inv:set_list(listname,list) as list? |
| 09:57 |
webdesigner97 |
I mean what is "list" |
| 09:58 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
What is the purpose of modpacks?` |
| 09:58 |
Calinou |
Yrol_Denjeah: installing several mods at once, easily |
| 09:58 |
Calinou |
or preventing directory naming issues |
| 09:59 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
Ah, but we can also rip modpacks apart and install them separately, yes? |
| 09:59 |
Calinou |
yes |
| 09:59 |
Calinou |
except if there are dependencies |
| 09:59 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
°nods° |
| 10:00 |
webdesigner97 |
is list a list table with itemstacks? |
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Yrol_Denjeah |
If i have a mod and it has in its "depends.txt" something written like "12345", to what exactly refers that? A: The name of the folder where the files of mod "12345" are in, or B: Some name that is written in one of the configurationfiles of mod "12345", C: something else |
| 10:06 |
kahrl |
webdesigner97: yep |
| 10:06 |
webdesigner97 |
ok |
| 10:06 |
Taoki |
Digiline mod seems to be broken :/ |
| 10:07 |
kahrl |
Yrol_Denjeah: the mod called "12345" which should be in the folder mods/12345 or mods/somemodpack/12345 |
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| 10:09 |
kahrl |
yay, I broke minetest! |
| 10:09 |
kahrl |
adding an infinite loop when registering new nodes is just the brightest idea ever |
| 10:10 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
kahrl, so A, thankees, followupquestion: i have a mod ( pipeworks ) where it says in the depends.txt, that "mesecons?" is required, but windpws does not aceppt "?" in file or foldernames, is that a typo or some specific option in that depends file? |
| 10:10 |
kahrl |
oh, that's a special character and means it's an optional dependency |
| 10:10 |
kahrl |
so it actually refers to mesecons |
| 10:11 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
alright |
| 10:11 |
kahrl |
so that means you don't need mesecons, but pipeworks can work with it if it is installed |
| 10:11 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
( i am currently trying to get the technic mod running... seems a bit complicated for newbies ) |
| 10:11 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
Yup |
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| 10:12 |
kahrl |
I heard there is a technic_game which might be easier to install |
| 10:12 |
kahrl |
just plop it into games/ |
| 10:13 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
kahrl, hm, a 12345_game would be then something like a TC ( total conversion), yes? |
| 10:13 |
kahrl |
is that a MC thing? |
| 10:13 |
Calinou |
no |
| 10:13 |
Calinou |
TC is a generic term |
| 10:13 |
Calinou |
for a mod that changes the whole gameplay |
| 10:13 |
kahrl |
oh, then yes |
| 10:14 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
°nods° |
| 10:15 |
kahrl |
but technically it's just a collection of mods (like minetest_game) |
| 10:18 |
Taoki |
Anyone know what's wrong with digilines mod in latest minetest_game? I used the example there but it still doesn't work |
| 10:18 |
Taoki |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5263 |
| 10:24 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
Hm, i got into the game now, with all that stuff technic-mod wants, but when i arrive, i still get dependency errors, even though the folders are there and named correctly :o( |
| 10:24 |
Taoki |
NVM, found it. I wasn't putting a channel mane between " ", which was making a difference |
| 10:25 |
whirm |
Yrol_Denjeah: are you on linux? |
| 10:25 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
whirm, win xp 32 sp 3 |
| 10:25 |
kahrl |
what are these dependency errors? |
| 10:26 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
One of them is: ERROR[main]: mod "extranodes" has unsatisfied dependencies: "technic_worldgen". I checked all the Depends.txt files, it should work. |
| 10:26 |
whirm |
Yrol_Denjeah: oh, nothing then, I make this http://paste.debian.net/15860/ but its only for linux |
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| 10:28 |
kahrl |
Yrol_Denjeah: did you enable all the mods in the world configuration? |
| 10:28 |
RealBadAngel |
hi all |
| 10:28 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
kahrl, they are all enabled in my world.mt, yes |
| 10:28 |
kahrl |
hmm |
| 10:29 |
RealBadAngel |
whats the problem? |
| 10:31 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
RealBadAngel, jsut a second... |
| 10:33 |
kahrl |
Yrol_Denjeah: did you enable all the mods separately in world.mt or the modpack? |
| 10:33 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Hi! |
| 10:33 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
kahrl, i just clicked "enable all", however... |
| 10:34 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: A GIT update in Minetest solved the problem with technic_game crashing and not working. Running and testing it and learning it now :) |
| 10:34 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
kahrl & RealBadAngel, the problem was the missing "moretrees"-mod |
| 10:34 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
RealBadAngel, can you please edit your technic post in the forum to note that "moretrees" is needed? |
| 10:36 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
uhm... |
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| 10:37 |
RealBadAngel |
Yrol_Denjeah, ooops. i will do that right away. but on the other hand you could use technic_game instead |
| 10:37 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
RealBadAngel, or rather change that line "Also, indev version requires moretrees mod." to a line under "dependencies", like "moretrees: if indev is used" or so. |
| 10:38 |
RealBadAngel |
it comes with all the mods needed |
| 10:38 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
RealBadAngel, i dont know what indev is, but i guess i am not using it, yet i still seem to need that more trees mod |
| 10:38 |
RealBadAngel |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6412 |
| 10:39 |
RealBadAngel |
try this. it has way more content than technic itself |
| 10:39 |
RealBadAngel |
including forth programmable computer |
| 10:40 |
RealBadAngel |
also it comes with 32x default texture pack |
| 10:41 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
Hm, it only would add the moonflower mod to the mods i now have installed. ( and disables the crative mod ) |
| 10:41 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: battery box is still broken, right? |
| 10:41 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: The texture pack in Technic is very pretty |
| 10:41 |
RealBadAngel |
technic game is not just a compilation of mods |
| 10:42 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
RealBadAngel, oh, ok, so theres more in it than meets the eye ;o) |
| 10:42 |
RealBadAngel |
it modifies default mods too |
| 10:42 |
RealBadAngel |
also many formspecs are now UI style, including default ones |
| 10:43 |
RealBadAngel |
whirm, broken in what way? |
| 10:43 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont recall it being broken |
| 10:43 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
RealBadAngel, when i use just the technic mod, loading times increase substantually ( especially for the inventory pictures, it seems). Is it normal that it takes almost a minute? |
| 10:45 |
RealBadAngel |
it is normal |
| 10:45 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: it just doesn't charge my lazor gun |
| 10:45 |
RealBadAngel |
you can disable preload of items inventory images in settings |
| 10:45 |
whirm |
nor accumulates energy |
| 10:46 |
RealBadAngel |
update your technic, pick the batbox and place it again |
| 10:47 |
RealBadAngel |
you are propably talkin about batbox placed months ago (or using outdated technic) from times before i rebuilt power distribution |
| 10:48 |
RealBadAngel |
same applies to new inventory look of chests etc |
| 10:48 |
RealBadAngel |
to see new layout chest have to be picked up and placed again |
| 10:49 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: My biggest issue with technic_game currently is that there's no way to learn it |
| 10:49 |
Taoki |
Any documentation, wiki, receipe list, etc? |
| 10:49 |
RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/7p6uMuc.png |
| 10:49 |
RealBadAngel |
recipe list is not needed at all |
| 10:50 |
RealBadAngel |
just select crafting guide and click on the item |
| 10:50 |
Taoki |
oh, nice |
| 10:50 |
RealBadAngel |
you can see all the crafting (or other ways) to get that item |
| 10:50 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: I'm at: 57cd394 Gigh -> High, I removed and replaced both the wires and the battery box, but it is still not working |
| 10:51 |
RealBadAngel |
youre trying to use HV batbox? |
| 10:51 |
RealBadAngel |
there are almost no machines for it |
| 10:52 |
RealBadAngel |
use LV or MV ones |
| 10:52 |
whirm |
no, I'm using the normal one |
| 10:53 |
whirm |
(LV battery box) |
| 10:53 |
RealBadAngel |
does the cable connect to it? |
| 10:53 |
whirm |
yes |
| 10:53 |
whirm |
it was working some days ago |
| 10:53 |
RealBadAngel |
place a solar panel somwhere around |
| 10:53 |
whirm |
I can send you a screenshot if you want, |
| 10:54 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: I'm using coal generators |
| 10:54 |
RealBadAngel |
and connect them with the cable |
| 10:54 |
whirm |
2 of them |
| 10:54 |
RealBadAngel |
show me |
| 10:55 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
RealBadAngel, thank you, i think i found something weird though, if i browse my inventory and click on "previous page", it takes ages before then the inventory gets closed automatically, i have to reopen it then to see the page i wanted to see. i check if that behaviour stays the same with preloading... |
| 10:55 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: http://imgur.com/P5VShNS |
| 10:56 |
RealBadAngel |
Yrol_Denjeah, thats the price for faster loading |
| 10:57 |
RealBadAngel |
the item images are generated on demand |
| 10:57 |
sfan5 |
hi |
| 10:57 |
RealBadAngel |
so, first time you open your inventory and specific page |
| 10:57 |
Calinou |
too bad renders aren't actually 3D models but just renders |
| 10:57 |
Calinou |
it would fix the wrong-texture issue |
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RealBadAngel |
whirm, can you zip all your mods and upload them somwhere? |
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| 11:01 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
RealBadAngel, ok, its faster now.. a bit... but at least it doenst close my inventory window anymore after each page-click. By the way, i love the item-pickup sound, very cute :o) |
| 11:02 |
RealBadAngel |
credit for it goes to PilzAdam, he created that mod |
| 11:04 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
RealBadAngel, Oh, ok. Sorry to bother you again, i do get a windows error that says that the file "bit32.so.32" from the forth computer is not a valid windows image any clue how i can solve that? |
| 11:04 |
sfan5 |
Yrol_Denjeah: forth doesn't work on Windows yet |
| 11:04 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
oh, ok. |
| 11:04 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: sure |
| 11:05 |
RealBadAngel |
i think i will have to install windows for sake of testing the computer |
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| 11:06 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: I'm using current HEAD of those: http://paste.debian.net/15860/ |
| 11:06 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: do you want the actual code or is that enough? |
| 11:06 |
RealBadAngel |
-DLUAJIT=1 wtf? |
| 11:07 |
RealBadAngel |
somebody added setting for it? |
| 11:08 |
webdesigner97 |
does anybody have a copy of the default non-creative inventory fromspec for me? |
| 11:08 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: this is useless now, I just forgot to remove it |
| 11:09 |
RealBadAngel |
whirm your game lists is incomplete ;) |
| 11:09 |
RealBadAngel |
wheres technic_game?? ;) |
| 11:09 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, in fact this is good idea |
| 11:10 |
RealBadAngel |
dowload the game and check the basic setup if it works for you |
| 11:10 |
RealBadAngel |
one batbox and a solar panel |
| 11:11 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: is techic_game needed? |
| 11:11 |
whirm |
hm, I thought either the mod or the game would be enough |
| 11:11 |
* whirm |
adding the game |
| 11:12 |
RealBadAngel |
i know exactly whats in the technic_game |
| 11:13 |
RealBadAngel |
thus im eliminatin possible conflicts |
| 11:14 |
whirm |
ok |
| 11:15 |
RealBadAngel |
whirm if you want to see all the eye candies, have better lookin formspecs, better textures, computer, all the mods up to date, then yes, technic_game is needed |
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whirm |
Ah, nice, do I have to enable any mod? |
| 11:16 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 11:16 |
RealBadAngel |
theyre on game side |
| 11:16 |
whirm |
ok |
| 11:17 |
RealBadAngel |
you may want to enable any others that you have in /mods |
| 11:17 |
RealBadAngel |
but to start complete technic world you dont have to enable anything |
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| 11:18 |
RealBadAngel |
just click on Transformer image and create new world |
| 11:18 |
PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
| 11:18 |
RealBadAngel |
hi PA |
| 11:19 |
whirm |
lol, lighting is all messed up: http://imgur.com/wCIZJCH |
| 11:19 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
Wow, MT is fun! :o)) |
| 11:20 |
RealBadAngel |
wtf? |
| 11:20 |
RealBadAngel |
its newly created world? |
| 11:20 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: yup, just created a new one for technic_game |
| 11:20 |
RealBadAngel |
shaders are on or off? |
| 11:20 |
whirm |
on I think |
| 11:20 |
RealBadAngel |
try with off |
| 11:21 |
PilzAdam |
that doesnt change anything |
| 11:21 |
RealBadAngel |
so whats that? |
| 11:21 |
PilzAdam |
what mapgen is used? |
| 11:21 |
whirm |
yes, everything enabled except for opaque water and bi/tri linear filtering, using indev mapgen |
| 11:22 |
whirm |
should I use lv solar panel or solar panel? |
| 11:22 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, what does techinc game do in mapgen? |
| 11:22 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
Whats that InDev anyways? |
| 11:22 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, generating ores, marble, granite in layers |
| 11:23 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
Also: is there already an Ultima VII game-mod for MT? °grins° |
| 11:23 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: ok, with the solar panel it is working OK |
| 11:23 |
RealBadAngel |
whirm could you try with default (v6) mapgen? |
| 11:23 |
whirm |
(lv solar panel) |
| 11:23 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: sure |
| 11:23 |
RealBadAngel |
lv is from technic |
| 11:23 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, no trees? |
| 11:24 |
RealBadAngel |
solar panel is from mesecons (which shall be renamed to light sensor) |
| 11:24 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, trees are generated by moretrees only |
| 11:24 |
PilzAdam |
and is that included in technic? |
| 11:24 |
RealBadAngel |
technic_game |
| 11:25 |
PilzAdam |
ok, what does technic_game do in mapgen? |
| 11:25 |
whirm |
also, look at this. Looking just below the horizon: http://imgur.com/b9OHcGk |
| 11:25 |
whirm |
http://imgur.com/pBY7rae looking just above horizon |
| 11:26 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, so there is moretrees, plantlife |
| 11:26 |
RealBadAngel |
and moonflower |
| 11:26 |
PilzAdam |
whirm, place a sapling in the dark area, or let lava flow a bit |
| 11:26 |
RealBadAngel |
nothing more about generating the world i think |
| 11:27 |
whirm |
I'm creating a new world with v6 |
| 11:27 |
PilzAdam |
whirm, what exact minetest version do you have? |
| 11:27 |
whirm |
PilzAdam: current HEAD |
| 11:28 |
whirm |
this is V6 with technic: http://imgur.com/AsTUJAD |
| 11:28 |
RealBadAngel |
whirm, please check this out: http://bdcraft.net/community/tbdc-patches-rel/technic-t438.html |
| 11:28 |
whirm |
Ill create a new one with default game |
| 11:28 |
whirm |
just to be sure |
| 11:28 |
PilzAdam |
I blam moretrees |
| 11:28 |
PilzAdam |
*blame |
| 11:29 |
RealBadAngel |
sphax's (and ashenk69) textures for technic |
| 11:30 |
whirm |
/time 6000 should be daylight, right? |
| 11:31 |
whirm |
http://imgur.com/n2S0zGZ |
| 11:31 |
whirm |
this is the default game with no mods enabled |
| 11:31 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
whirm, dawn, as far as i know |
| 11:31 |
PilzAdam |
6000 should be alot brighter |
| 11:32 |
whirm |
and there's no moon nor stars |
| 11:32 |
PilzAdam |
"no mods enabled" -> "no moon nor stars" |
| 11:32 |
RealBadAngel |
whirm: http://i.imgur.com/p3VyXDS.png |
| 11:32 |
PilzAdam |
oopps |
| 11:32 |
PilzAdam |
read that wrong |
| 11:33 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: oh, wow, this looks really nice |
| 11:34 |
PilzAdam |
whirm, how have you compiled Minetest? |
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whirm |
PilzAdam: http://paste.debian.net/15860/ |
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PilzAdam |
common is not needed anymore |
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PilzAdam |
\o/ MiniTest |
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PilzAdam |
whirm, sry, no idea |
| 11:37 |
whirm |
PilzAdam: ok, thx, |
| 11:38 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: very nice texture pack, I liked the toonish one I had, but it wasnt complete |
| 11:39 |
whirm |
also, the inventory skin is infinitely better |
| 11:40 |
whirm |
if I look at a dark area, the sky gets dark, if I look at a clear area, the sky gets clear |
| 11:41 |
PilzAdam |
thats normal |
| 11:41 |
Yrol_Denjeah |
Well, im off again, thanks everybody who did for helping :o)) |
| 11:41 |
PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, is the voxelmanip used in technic_game anywhere? |
| 11:42 |
whirm |
is there any way to make minetest recompute the lighting of the whole area? |
| 11:42 |
PilzAdam |
yes, grow a sapling or let lava flow |
| 11:42 |
whirm |
Oh, sorry I forgot to try this, let me check |
| 11:43 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, yes, in forcefield generators |
| 11:44 |
RealBadAngel |
but this is not worldgen stuff |
| 11:45 |
RealBadAngel |
whirm, just download textures for all the mods to make the pack complete |
| 11:46 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: I did for all the mods I could find, but for example I couldn't find one for moreores |
| 11:46 |
whirm |
is there a git repo with the complete thing? |
| 11:46 |
RealBadAngel |
theres one with normal textures |
| 11:46 |
RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/sphax256 |
| 11:46 |
RealBadAngel |
try this one with shaders on |
| 11:47 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: I like the one from your screenshot |
| 11:48 |
whirm |
ok, so pouring lava in a dark area doesnt fix it, it gets light from the lava blocks but when they cool off, it gets dark again |
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whirm |
oh well, I set the whole jungle on fire... |
| 11:50 |
RealBadAngel |
whirm please do try pack from the link i posted |
| 11:50 |
RealBadAngel |
it will enable bumpmapping for you |
| 11:52 |
RealBadAngel |
so your world gonna look like this: http://i.imgur.com/RaiGTJu.jpg |
| 11:53 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: this one? http://bdcraft.net/community/tbdc-patches-rel/technic-t438.html |
| 11:54 |
RealBadAngel |
https://github.com/RealBadAngel/sphax256 |
| 11:55 |
RealBadAngel |
then add to it patch you have copied |
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Jordach |
every software engineering problem can be solved by adding a layer of abstraction except for the problem of using java |
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whirm |
RealBadAngel: oh, I missed this one, thanks |
| 11:59 |
RealBadAngel |
please try it and tell me what do you think about the feel of it |
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whirm |
RealBadAngel: sure, whats the recommended mapgen for technic? |
| 12:01 |
RealBadAngel |
v6 i guess |
| 12:04 |
whirm |
Ok, I can't see shit |
| 12:05 |
RealBadAngel |
lol, whats now? |
| 12:05 |
Jordach |
when i report a spam post, i don't even bother giving a reason; it's usually a gag or something |
| 12:06 |
Jordach |
because it's pretty obvious it's spam |
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whirm |
RealBadAngel: 90% of the map is fark |
| 12:07 |
whirm |
*dark |
| 12:07 |
RealBadAngel |
its definitely not a technic issue |
| 12:07 |
RealBadAngel |
i will try now current tree and technic game |
| 12:07 |
RealBadAngel |
hold on |
| 12:09 |
whirm |
RealBadAngel: in case you want to test with my settings: http://paste.debian.net/15871/ |
| 12:12 |
RealBadAngel |
change enable_shaders = 2 |
| 12:13 |
RealBadAngel |
true is a bug introduced by main menu changes |
| 12:14 |
RealBadAngel |
with setting "true" shaders wont work |
| 12:15 |
whirm |
oh, thanks |
| 12:15 |
whirm |
lets see the texture pack |
| 12:15 |
* whirm |
loading |
| 12:19 |
whirm |
it doesnt work, the almost everything is black, not dark but black, except for the flowers and grass |
| 12:19 |
Calinou |
irrlicht 1.8? |
| 12:19 |
whirm |
adding torches doesn't help |
| 12:19 |
Calinou |
use 1.6 |
| 12:19 |
Calinou |
1.7 |
| 12:19 |
RealBadAngel |
1.7.3 |
| 12:20 |
Calinou |
to be exact, yes |
| 12:20 |
whirm |
I enabled bumpmaps, I don't know if they should be enabled or only shaders |
| 12:20 |
Calinou |
enable both |
| 12:20 |
RealBadAngel |
both should be enabled |
| 12:21 |
whirm |
ok both are enabled |
| 12:21 |
whirm |
and irrlich 1.7 is not on debian sid, only 1.8, is there any workaround or I need to fish for thi olden packages? |
| 12:22 |
Calinou |
I bet, fish for older packages |
| 12:22 |
Calinou |
for once, debian has something... too recent |
| 12:22 |
Calinou |
:-) |
| 12:22 |
whirm |
hahah |
| 12:22 |
whirm |
well, I'm out to hunt for some groceries at the market, bbl. |
| 12:23 |
whirm |
Thanks for all the help, technic_games/the texture pack looks very nice (I guess it will look even better with proper lighting :D) |
| 12:45 |
Taoki |
What is the metadata string for chest inventories? As in, if I wanted to add items to a chest in a Lua script, what set_meta would I call? |
| 12:45 |
Taoki |
**what form |
| 12:45 |
Taoki |
And yes, it must be done only via meta:set_string |
| 12:46 |
Calinou |
http://paste.ubuntu.com/5870952/ |
| 12:46 |
Calinou |
if this can help :p |
| 12:47 |
Taoki |
Doesn't explain much |
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Taoki |
I need to know how to add items to a chest using meta:set_string |
| 12:49 |
Taoki |
The default way doesn't have that since chests are empty by default |
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Taoki |
local inv = meta:get_inventory() ---- I'm hoping that function is just a helper, and chest inventory can be manipulated by meta string directly as well |
| 12:53 |
Taoki |
But yeah, the default definitions clearly offer no example. They only have the functions on how the chest behaves as you move inventory. No info on how you set inventory as a string |
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Exio4 |
Calinou: sid has lots of stuff updated |
| 12:56 |
Calinou |
depends |
| 12:56 |
Calinou |
it still had 3.2 kernel until recently |
| 12:56 |
Exio4 |
and most of people uses sid+experimental what is |
| 12:57 |
Exio4 |
Calinou: until the release came* |
| 12:57 |
Exio4 |
that happens every two years |
| 12:57 |
Exio4 |
if you only use sid in those moments, you'll see only something that happens every two years |
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NekoGloopMkIII |
I HAVE BEEN UPGRADED! |
| 13:51 |
RealBadAngel |
another new t-shirt? |
| 13:51 |
RealBadAngel |
gosh you must be rich then ;p |
| 13:52 |
RealBadAngel |
btw, i have fine tuned some effects |
| 13:53 |
RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/cN7LRp9.jpg |
| 13:53 |
RealBadAngel |
heres the effect |
| 13:55 |
Taoki |
RealBadAngel: Lovely work so far ^_^ |
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Taoki |
How do I print the whole content of a node's meta? I need to see some values |
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Taoki |
Tried to deserialize but no idea how to do that |
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RealBadAngel |
serialize it first to the string |
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RealBadAngel |
thend print(dump(serialized_string)) |
| 14:21 |
RealBadAngel |
print-dump is your debuggy friend ;) |
| 14:22 |
Taoki |
So I do minetest.serialize(minetest.get_meta(pos)) ? |
| 14:22 |
RealBadAngel |
hold on |
| 14:23 |
RealBadAngel |
local node=minetest.env:get_node(pos) |
| 14:23 |
RealBadAngel |
then serialize node |
| 14:24 |
RealBadAngel |
you shall end up with string that will contain all the data, including inventories |
| 14:24 |
Taoki |
ok, I got this: "return { [\"param1\"] = 0, [\"name\"] = \"default:chest\", [\"param2\"] = 1 }" |
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thexyz |
Taoki: minetest.serialize(minetest.env:get_meta(pos):to_table()) |
| 14:24 |
Taoki |
No mention of the inventory inside :/ |
| 14:25 |
RealBadAngel |
put something in there |
| 14:25 |
Taoki |
I'll try that too |
| 14:25 |
RealBadAngel |
and repeat |
| 14:25 |
Taoki |
I did put something in |
| 14:25 |
thexyz |
Taoki: or print(dump(minetest.env:get_meta(pos):to_table())) which will output it to stdout |
| 14:25 |
RealBadAngel |
if no go, then we will have to serialize inventories |
| 14:26 |
Taoki |
thexyz: First line crashes: Can't serialize data of type userdata |
| 14:26 |
Taoki |
will try that too |
| 14:26 |
thexyz |
oh yeah |
| 14:26 |
Taoki |
ok now it shows more |
| 14:26 |
thexyz |
it cannot serialize inventories, apparently |
| 14:27 |
Taoki |
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=50hUnzRq |
| 14:27 |
Taoki |
Doesn't explain how I could use meta:set_string to create an inventory item |
| 14:27 |
Taoki |
which I'llr eally need to |
| 14:28 |
Taoki |
Why would inventory be "userdata" (whatever that is) instead of something in the form {coal, 99} etc |
| 14:28 |
RealBadAngel |
local inv = meta:get_inventory() |
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RealBadAngel |
dump it |
| 14:29 |
Taoki |
I am |
| 14:29 |
Taoki |
print(dump(minetest.env:get_meta(pos):to_table())) |
| 14:29 |
RealBadAngel |
no |
| 14:29 |
RealBadAngel |
get meta first |
| 14:29 |
RealBadAngel |
then get inv from it |
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Taoki |
I should probably do meta:get_string("inventory"), if that would be correct? |
| 14:33 |
Taoki |
Wait, I already did that. meta:get_string("inventory") returned nothing, as if its empty |
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Taoki |
ooohhh: Hello. Judging by nickname, you must be hmmmm's brother :) |
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Taoki |
RealBadAngel: I tried meta:get_string("inventory") and it returned nothing, what else should I try there? |
| 14:38 |
RealBadAngel |
inventories have names |
| 14:38 |
RealBadAngel |
try "main: |
| 14:38 |
RealBadAngel |
"main" |
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Taoki |
oh, right. Trying... |
| 14:42 |
Taoki |
Still nothing :( |
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Taoki |
print(meta:get_string("main")) & print(dump(meta:get_string("main"))) |
| 14:44 |
RealBadAngel |
local inv = meta:get_inventory() |
| 14:44 |
RealBadAngel |
print (dump(inv)) |
| 14:44 |
Taoki |
Yeahm but then I'm getting it through the get_inventory function and not get_meta. I'll try still |
| 14:45 |
RealBadAngel |
first get meta |
| 14:45 |
RealBadAngel |
then inv |
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Taoki |
RealBadAngel: That simply prints <userdata> |
| 14:45 |
RealBadAngel |
thats good |
| 14:46 |
RealBadAngel |
serialize the output now |
| 14:46 |
RealBadAngel |
and print it |
| 14:46 |
ooohhh |
Taoki, ;) |
| 14:46 |
Taoki |
Probly not as it might mean I can't set inventories with meta:set_string :( And the whole idea is ruined |
| 14:46 |
Taoki |
ok |
| 14:47 |
Taoki |
print (minetest.serialize(inv)) ? |
| 14:47 |
RealBadAngel |
yes |
| 14:48 |
Taoki |
That crashes it |
| 14:48 |
Taoki |
Can't serialize data of type userdata |
| 14:48 |
RealBadAngel |
huh? |
| 14:48 |
Taoki |
The error :/ |
| 14:48 |
RealBadAngel |
i will try later to find a solution |
| 14:49 |
RealBadAngel |
now going to sleep, i have a night shift today |
| 14:49 |
Taoki |
ok. Night |
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thexyz |
Taoki: what are you trying to achieve? |
| 14:55 |
Taoki |
thexyz: A script that can add inventory items to a chest using only a meta:set_string line |
| 14:55 |
Taoki |
And yes, it must be meta:set_string, no other function. It's part of an automated system |
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thexyz |
Taoki: I think this is impossible |
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Taoki |
strange |
| 14:58 |
Taoki |
Sounds like it's using a rather weird and bad system then :/ And node metadata should be modifiable I think |
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thexyz |
Taoki: it is modifiable |
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Taoki |
Yes, but modifiable as a string |
| 15:00 |
thexyz |
http://dev.minetest.net/NodeMetaRef from_table should work though |
| 15:00 |
thexyz |
oh |
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thexyz |
Taoki: see that wiki page |
| 15:01 |
thexyz |
metadata is not only key-value store |
| 15:02 |
Taoki |
Heh. There's a get_inventory but not even a set_inventory :P |
| 15:03 |
Taoki |
BBL |
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whirm |
is it possible to switch a game |
| 15:09 |
whirm |
sorry, a world from one game to other (minetest to technic) |
| 15:10 |
whirm |
I tried but I'm getting an "invalid multibyte string" error now |
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thexyz |
whirm: where do you get this error? |
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whirm |
thexyz: when loading the world |
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thexyz |
whirm: pastebin your console output |
| 15:19 |
whirm |
thexyz: http://paste.debian.net/15894/ |
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thexyz |
sorry, no idea |
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thexyz |
but it definitely should be possible |
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* PenguinDad |
is away: He is in a parallel universe. |
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Exio4 |
PenguinDad: may you disable those messages? |
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Exio4 |
using a silent /away is enough |
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PenguinDad |
Exio4, now away is silent. |
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Exio4 |
kk |
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whirm |
thexyz: ok, thx, Ill try moving stuff bit by bit |
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Kacey |
!up mt.viewskew.com |
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MinetestBot |
mt.viewskew.com:30000 seems to be down |
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Kacey |
huh ok... |
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OldCoder |
artur99, hi |
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artur99 |
hru, oldcoder? |
| 17:01 |
OldCoder |
Not sure... |
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OldCoder |
But glad to see people |
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VanessaE |
hi all. |
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OldCoder |
VanessaE, hello |
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Kacey |
hi VanessaE, OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
o/ |
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VanessaE |
hey |
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OldCoder |
john_minetest, Hello on this fine Saturday |
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Calinou |
"do u even central time" |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
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OldCoder |
john_minetest, I am in Silicon Valley |
| 17:33 |
OldCoder |
It is about 10:30am here |
| 17:34 |
Calinou |
>silicon valley |
| 17:34 |
Calinou |
let's threaten OldCoder to release nvidia driver source code, then escape as if he was in max payne 3 |
| 17:34 |
Calinou |
</silly plans> |
| 17:35 |
OldCoder |
Hm? |
| 17:35 |
* OldCoder |
is confused |
| 17:36 |
* OldCoder |
is not affiliated with NVidia and has given up on the proprietary drivers |
| 17:36 |
OldCoder |
<sillycon plans> |
| 17:36 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 17:37 |
OldCoder |
Try managing about 5 giant installers for proprietary drivers... they keep dropping support for old chipsets so you need to all the old packages around... not compatible with newer systems. Heck with it. |
| 17:37 |
* OldCoder |
is Nouveau now |
| 17:37 |
* OldCoder |
thinks FOSS is not a loss |
| 17:38 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, yes; balance is towards the open version now |
| 17:38 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, I know we're nearly there because Celestia works with my distro now |
| 17:38 |
OldCoder |
That one is pretty demanding |
| 17:38 |
Exio4 |
[14:37:49] * OldCoder thinks FOSS is not a loss |
| 17:39 |
Exio4 |
it isn't |
| 17:39 |
Exio4 |
it is way better as you can actually let compilers optimize stuff in case of old-hardware or low-end or when you need the "highest" performance |
| 17:40 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 17:40 |
Calinou |
it also prevents bias 8) |
| 17:40 |
Calinou |
or makes it harder |
| 17:40 |
Calinou |
* OldCoder is Nouveau now |
| 17:40 |
Calinou |
nouveau is a joke performance and opengl-wise |
| 17:40 |
OldCoder |
But it works |
| 17:40 |
Calinou |
it does |
| 17:40 |
OldCoder |
Proprietary does not... not well for a distro maintainer |
| 17:40 |
Calinou |
but 20× slower than nvidia for me |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
24 vs 600 FPS on sauerbraten |
| 17:41 |
OldCoder |
Really? It is probably better in some cases |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
nvidia supports their cards for 6 years |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
never, OldCoder |
| 17:41 |
OldCoder |
And then throws away the cards |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
except for 2D accel but who cares :P |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
6 years is enough by far |
| 17:41 |
OldCoder |
Nope |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
the 8800GTs get pwned by a GTX650 |
| 17:41 |
* OldCoder |
has laptops older than that |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
old laptop shrug |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
usually the battery inside these laptops would be dead anyway |
| 17:42 |
OldCoder |
old laptops is tops |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
nvidia also has a decent legacy driver |
| 17:42 |
* OldCoder |
likes old laptops |
| 17:42 |
Exio4 |
sadly, when a laptop gets old you can't "do l33t stuff" like a desktop for making it live a bit more |
| 17:42 |
OldCoder |
nvidia made me support multiple installers |
| 17:42 |
Exio4 |
you need to a buy a complete new one |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
you buy another one, laptops are trashable :P |
| 17:42 |
OldCoder |
Exio4, nah... I got people who patch them together |
| 17:43 |
OldCoder |
Replaced keyboard on Inspiron about 4 times |
| 17:43 |
OldCoder |
The one I am on right now is used and has had a number of tweaks |
| 17:43 |
OldCoder |
Pretty slow but gets the job done... hmm is the bot going to be angry? |
| 17:43 |
Exio4 |
upgrading the cpu here is buying a new one that plugs into my mobo, shutdown the pc, do black magic, in 30 minutes i'm using a new cpu |
| 17:43 |
Exio4 |
changing the keyboard is unplugging the old one and using the new |
| 17:43 |
OldCoder |
Limit is 5 lines in a short period of time? |
| 17:43 |
OldCoder |
Yep |
| 17:43 |
OldCoder |
I used desktops from 1981 on |
| 17:44 |
Exio4 |
the laptops are way more "static" than desktops |
| 17:44 |
OldCoder |
Actually did not buy first laptop until about two years ago |
| 17:44 |
Exio4 |
and expensive, and worse perf/$ |
| 17:45 |
OldCoder |
Static how wow how are static they? |
| 17:45 |
OldCoder |
Desktops are great... but laptops fit on laps. Hence the name. |
| 17:45 |
Exio4 |
OldCoder: what i said, i don't know a proper word for saying you can't change lots of stuff easily |
| 17:45 |
OldCoder |
This is laptop fame so game is not to blame |
| 17:45 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
| 17:45 |
* Exio4 |
isn't a native english speaker :P |
| 17:45 |
OldCoder |
Modifiable? |
| 17:45 |
OldCoder |
Exio4 is doing fine |
| 17:45 |
Exio4 |
that word |
| 17:45 |
* OldCoder |
is weary and does not know the word either |
| 17:45 |
Exio4 |
modifiable |
| 17:45 |
OldCoder |
Not quite the right word |
| 17:45 |
Exio4 |
laptops aren't modifiable as desktops are |
| 17:46 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 17:46 |
OldCoder |
You R Correct |
| 17:46 |
OldCoder |
With a desktop, just plug in a new keyboard or monitor |
| 17:46 |
OldCoder |
A bit tougher with laptops |
| 17:46 |
Taoki |
Why are loops dosallowed in mesecons / luacontroller? They're an important part of why scripting is useful for it at all |
| 17:46 |
OldCoder |
But laptops hit the spots |
| 17:46 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, which script? |
| 17:46 |
Exio4 |
OldCoder: laptop = you pay for portability |
| 17:46 |
OldCoder |
Exio4, indeed |
| 17:46 |
OldCoder |
So take heed |
| 17:46 |
Exio4 |
i don't really need a lot of portability, and a netbook works fine for the portability i need |
| 17:47 |
OldCoder |
Laptops dollars can bleed |
| 17:47 |
OldCoder |
But laptops I need |
| 17:47 |
OldCoder |
Not cause of speed |
| 17:47 |
OldCoder |
Reviewing this fine image today |
| 17:47 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, O.K. Oh, a *script* :-) |
| 17:47 |
Exio4 |
for me a netbook/low-end-notebook-or-mid-end if you get them cheap is good but not high-end |
| 17:47 |
OldCoder |
An actual script! |
| 17:48 |
Exio4 |
is okay ** |
| 17:48 |
Taoki |
john_minetest: Haha awesome! What's that exactly from? |
| 17:48 |
OldCoder |
Exio4, high end on them I do not depend money do not wish to spend |
| 17:48 |
OldCoder |
She is a horse? |
| 17:48 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 17:48 |
OldCoder |
She *is* a horse |
| 17:48 |
Taoki |
hehe |
| 17:48 |
OldCoder |
MLP |
| 17:48 |
* OldCoder |
gets it now |
| 17:48 |
Taoki |
OldCoder: Nuuu, MLP ponies aren't horses! Maybe just related if anything |
| 17:49 |
OldCoder |
Parallel species |
| 17:49 |
OldCoder |
Same family different order or vice versa |
| 17:49 |
* OldCoder |
does not recall MLP taxonomy |
| 17:50 |
* OldCoder |
must rest for a few minutes |
| 17:50 |
OldCoder |
o/ |
| 18:14 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: prollergithub.com commited to minetest/minetest: Leveled nodebox 9733dd5b5e 2013-07-13T11:13:24-07:00 http://git.io/BUd1ng |
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Calinou |
john_minetest: [Rainbow_Dash] posted it be cause some guy said "cadence" was spelled "cadance" |
| 18:27 |
Calinou |
:p |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
Taoki: how is this awesome? |
| 18:28 |
Calinou |
according to the name, it's old |
| 18:29 |
Calinou |
Taoki: my little ponies ponies? :P |
| 18:30 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: busy playing TF2 :P |
| 18:31 |
Exio4 |
decadencia |
| 18:32 |
Calinou |
princess Exio |
| 18:32 |
Calinou |
:> |
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Kacey |
https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7645701376/hFCECD502/ |
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Exio4 |
Princess C(elestia|alinou) |
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Jordach |
evening |
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* Jordach |
eats fish and chips... |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
mmmmm... |
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VanessaE |
where's mine? :) |
| 19:00 |
Jordach |
one hand typing != fun |
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Jordach |
shush java - i know you need updating |
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Kacey |
Jordach, your server is down |
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Jordach |
ikr - no idea |
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Jordach |
/part message is the channel leaver |
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Taoki |
I have a question. I noticed that apart from meta:set_string, there's a meta:set_float and meta:set_int. If setting a number in the meta of a node, is it absolutely necessary to use those? Of if for example you'd do meta:set_string("field", "6.34") it would still be valied? |
| 19:07 |
Taoki |
Got a big problem if not. But from what I seen that should be fine |
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Taoki |
Since Lua works with types dynamically, and I doubt meta fields are stored together with type |
| 19:08 |
Taoki |
But making sure still |
| 19:08 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 19:10 |
Taoki |
hi |
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Ego |
I can't find any clay.. =/ |
| 19:24 |
Ego |
All I've found is dirt and silt. |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
Ego, you find clay in deserts |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
that is, near sand and desert sand |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
not near dirt ;) |
| 19:24 |
Ego |
Oh, I thought I'd find it in ocean floors, heh! |
| 19:24 |
Ego |
That'd asplain it. |
| 19:25 |
Ego |
I mean mud and silt* |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
silt? |
| 19:25 |
Calinou |
it's called dirt, not mud, since 0.4 |
| 19:26 |
* Taoki |
wonders what leveled nodeboxes are exactly. There's a comment on that on GIT |
| 19:26 |
Taoki |
*commit |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
Taoki, afaik, something like liquids, but with a few "levels", to make things like snow |
| 19:27 |
Ego |
I downloaded "Flat World" world, it's got silt in it. |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
water/lava can be sloped, leveled nodeboxes can't |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
maybe it's that |
| 19:27 |
Ego |
Found sand! |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
Ego, you don't need a flat world |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
mg_flags = flat |
| 19:27 |
Taoki |
Calinou: Oh... so solid blocks but with a "consumption" level, which specifies how low the top surface is? |
| 19:27 |
Calinou |
likely |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
it's possibly just to save node definitions |
| 19:28 |
Taoki |
Awesome! That might work for my "natural dirt slabs" idea :) |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
i'll read the PR's code to confirm |
| 19:28 |
Taoki |
So we can have top dirt nodes have different levels, for smooth terrain. But without even a different type of node |
| 19:28 |
Ego |
Add that to the conf? |
| 19:28 |
Calinou |
hmm, I don't see it in PR list |
| 19:29 |
Calinou |
found a link to it on IRC, i'll look at the logs |
| 19:29 |
Ego |
In any case, I already built this stuff up hehe |
| 19:29 |
Ego |
I'm liking this world. |
| 19:29 |
Ego |
My kids built on it, too. |
| 19:50 |
Taoki |
Anyone know of any technic_game servers? I'd like to see other constructions and how other people use it |
| 19:50 |
khonkhortisan |
VE's server |
| 19:50 |
VanessaE |
mine's down. |
| 19:51 |
Taoki |
ok. What's the address of the technic one? |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE |
(and it doesn't run technic_game, but it does have technic) |
| 19:51 |
Taoki |
Her server I visit is the minetest_game one usually |
| 19:51 |
Taoki |
Ah, ok |
| 19:51 |
Taoki |
Well, any area where I can see it in practice? |
| 19:51 |
VanessaE |
it's based on minetest_game, but with tons of mods, so it doesn't really resemble it anymore. |
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Calinou |
Taoki, https://github.com/proller/minetest/commit/2024a6c92d5710c8684c4dd0b48e8b93c5a49285 |
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Calinou |
looks like it is |
| 19:59 |
proller |
im now making water_flowing freeze -> leveled snow |
| 19:59 |
proller |
ant it works! |
| 20:00 |
Taoki |
Can someone make smooth hills with it :) |
| 20:01 |
Calinou |
semi-smooth hills, yeah |
| 20:01 |
Kacey |
Taoki, i only know up to MV mechanics |
| 20:01 |
Calinou |
Taoki, if you had smooth hills, you would still have blocky caves and stuff like that. |
| 20:01 |
Calinou |
so it wouldn't look consistent and good |
| 20:01 |
Calinou |
and blocky seas, too |
| 20:02 |
Taoki |
Calinou: Smooth cave floors could work too |
| 20:02 |
Calinou |
what about ceilings, walls, and all that :P |
| 20:02 |
Calinou |
and handling player collisions :P |
| 20:03 |
proller |
now there is problem with leveled nodes and building |
| 20:03 |
NakedFury |
better to have a mix of smooth and blocky areas |
| 20:03 |
Taoki |
Ceilings and walls could matter less. And player collisions should automatically work |
| 20:03 |
Calinou |
lol nope |
| 20:03 |
Taoki |
NakedFury: yeah |
| 20:03 |
Calinou |
Taoki, oh, if you want to use leveled nodeboxes |
| 20:03 |
Calinou |
not flowing liquids, which would be actually "smooth" terrain, that is not blocky |
| 20:04 |
Taoki |
I don't want to blindly use them, just hoping they'd make smooth terrain too |
| 20:04 |
Taoki |
yeah |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
the problem is that steep hills still won't look "smooth" |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
plateaus, even worse |
| 20:04 |
NakedFury |
then add certain smooth biomes |
| 20:05 |
Calinou |
would be inconsistent |
| 20:05 |
Calinou |
also, how would you handle drops when mining? and placing them back? |
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NakedFury |
you could not place then, only mine them |
| 20:05 |
Taoki |
hmmmm would be the one to look into this. Maybe as a feature for v7 |
| 20:06 |
Taoki |
But only for some biomes yet |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
>hmmm >adding a new feature |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
that is controversial |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
expect a "no" from him 8) |
| 20:06 |
Taoki |
:) |
| 20:06 |
NakedFury |
I guess if we ever will get this smooth thing it would be very far down the road |
| 20:07 |
NakedFury |
after other higher priority things are fixed or added |
| 20:08 |
Exio4 |
Taoki: i guess after the v7 is finished and you code that.. ;P |
| 20:08 |
Taoki |
lol |
| 20:09 |
Calinou |
anyone for a #wolfgame ? :D |
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Jordach |
leveled nodeboxes??? |
| 20:45 |
Calinou |
Jordach, looks like it is flowing liquids, but different |
| 20:45 |
Calinou |
only one node for several levels |
| 20:46 |
Calinou |
instead of 16 nodeboxes or so |
| 20:46 |
Jordach |
!! |
| 20:46 |
Jordach |
ice |
| 20:46 |
Jordach |
nice* |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
now we need auto_nodebox |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
facedir_fixed_texture too |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
so there are six possible faces (eg, how xpanes too) |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
would be a facedir that does not rotate textures :P |
| 20:52 |
Jordach |
Calinou, you know how there's X amount of nodes for xpanes |
| 20:52 |
Jordach |
there should be a nodebox called auto-connected |
| 20:52 |
Calinou |
like raillike, but for nodeboxes |
| 20:52 |
Calinou |
raillike_nodebox? :P |
| 20:52 |
Calinou |
would be nice |
| 20:52 |
Calinou |
would have client-side prediction, too |
| 20:52 |
Jordach |
so you define six tables and then let the engine attach them |
| 20:52 |
Jordach |
so wires wont have hundreds of node |
| 20:52 |
Jordach |
nodes* |
| 20:53 |
Jordach |
and just 1 |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
yep |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
you mean 4 nodes? |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
normal, curved, t-junction, crossing |
| 20:53 |
Calinou |
if you wanted to account vertical, would be much more |
| 20:53 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i mean things like technic's copper wires |
| 20:53 |
Jordach |
or mesecons |
| 20:54 |
Jordach |
Calinou, six node boxes |
| 20:54 |
Jordach |
or just add nodeboxes to a base model |
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Jordach |
(so six boxes are actually only needed, which the engine should add/remove on the fly) |
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Kacey |
bbs |
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Jordach |
Kacey, /set_irc_delay 12 |
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Kacey |
? |
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proller |
melting ice towers nyaaa |
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Jordach |
Kacey, it stops this: |
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Jordach |
* Kacey (~lulz2601:1:9080:19c:b827:8d6a:fb76:e279) has joined and just displays your cloak |
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Kacey |
set_irc_delay :Unknown command |
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Jordach |
/set irc_join_delay* |
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Jordach |
i forgot about the joining part |
| 21:42 |
Kacey |
ok |
| 21:42 |
ieksobes |
Hello, anyone has a few mins or something? I'm pretty sure I did everything covered on the wiki but still can't load mods for our local server. Not even a hint in the debug.txt |
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Kacey |
did you configure the world? |
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Yrol_Denjeah |
Greetings :o) |
| 22:04 |
ieksobes |
Not sure how do you mean that. I have a config file it loads, also auth/etc files. |
| 22:04 |
ieksobes |
And hello! |
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sokomine |
perhaps you ought to consider constructing your own "game". if you're running under linux. place all mods in one folder and symlink those you want. that's most practical |
| 22:08 |
ieksobes |
I'm not really good with these terms. That means a separated game folder and changed default_game= line in conf? |
| 22:09 |
ieksobes |
And yes, it's debian x86_64. |
| 22:13 |
ieksobes |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6066 Just reading this topic but everything seems ok except the mods not being loaded. |
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ieksobes |
The threa dis keep writing about a configuration tab though I never seen, enabled mods in the config file only. |
| 22:19 |
ieksobes |
thread keeps* |
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Yrol_Denjeah |
°waves° |
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whirm |
Can somebody tell me why my worlds look like this? http://imgur.com/FsYG8mp |
| 22:29 |
Exio4 |
how can you actually reproduce that? |
| 22:31 |
Exio4 |
anticheat is funny |
| 22:33 |
whirm |
Exio4: how to reproduce it?, I just build minetest from git, it happens using irrlich 17 and 18, with or without mods, and using indev or v6 |
| 22:34 |
Exio4 |
i don't actually know, that doesn't happen to me and never happened |
| 22:35 |
kahrl |
what mapgen mods do you use? e.g. moretrees |
| 22:35 |
whirm |
kahrl: technic game |
| 22:35 |
whirm |
but I'm almost sure it happens without any mods too |
| 22:35 |
whirm |
let me check |
| 22:37 |
sokomine |
yes, new versions do have a configuration tab for mods (and, if you're running on linux, it's best to download and compile the newest version) |
| 22:38 |
whirm |
http://imgur.com/VtEXtbT <-- kahrl this is with vanilla minetest_game, even worse, everything dark |
| 22:39 |
sokomine |
ieksobes: create a new folder in games, i.e. games/my_game/mods and add symlinks to all mods you want into that folder. that's usually the best way. you'll then have to klick on the right "game" type in the singleplayer menu. they're shown at the bottom of the screen |
| 22:45 |
Kacey |
whirm, those shadows just need a lighting update place a torch and then pick it back up |
| 22:47 |
VanessaE |
Kacey: a trick I learned for large swaths of bad lighting that doesn't wanna update is worldedit. not //fixlight, but making a big tract of sand or gravel and causing it to fall (then clean it up with //replace sand air) works when fixlight doesn't. |
| 22:48 |
whirm |
Kacey: nope, the torch makes light, but doesn't fix the lighting |
| 22:48 |
Kacey |
then try what VanessaE said |
| 22:49 |
VanessaE |
you may have to get up pretty high to get the sand up above the top of the badly-lit blocks. |
| 22:50 |
whirm |
the fixlight command doesnt exist according to my minetest :D, how does this worldedit works? |
| 22:50 |
Exio4 |
it is a mod :P |
| 22:50 |
VanessaE |
whirm: worldedit adds it :P |
| 22:50 |
whirm |
oh lol, ok, Ill install it |
| 22:50 |
ieksobes |
sokomine: Do you mean these tabs? https://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/839/screen2vg.png/ I don't have any. |
| 22:52 |
Kacey |
0.4.2?!?!?!?! |
| 22:52 |
ieksobes |
I have 0.3 only from the stable debian repo. |
| 22:53 |
VanessaE |
don't use the debian repo |
| 22:53 |
VanessaE |
build it yourself, it's easy to do |
| 22:53 |
ieksobes |
Well I just wanted to try it out... |
| 22:53 |
ieksobes |
But maybe I will, then |
| 22:53 |
VanessaE |
0.4.2 is horribly out of date :) |
| 22:54 |
Exio4 |
we are in 0.4.7.. |
| 22:54 |
ieksobes |
Ok, I'll compile the latest one from github |
| 22:54 |
Exio4 |
isn't 0.4.2 from 18 months ago? |
| 22:54 |
VanessaE |
and even THAT is slightly old :) |
| 22:54 |
ieksobes |
Windows binaries are always the latest? |
| 22:55 |
VanessaE |
ieksobes: usually they're recent, yeah |
| 22:55 |
ieksobes |
Well |
| 22:55 |
VanessaE |
within a couple of days of git HEAD most of the time |
| 22:55 |
ieksobes |
Okay, getting the source. |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
be sure you check the build docs in the README, there's a number of dependencies. |
| 22:57 |
ieksobes |
http://github.com/celeron55/minetest |
| 22:57 |
ieksobes |
Following these steps. |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
not celeron55/minetest |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
minetest/minetest |
| 22:57 |
ieksobes |
Duh.. |
| 22:57 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest |
| 22:58 |
VanessaE |
(and also you need https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/ ) |
| 22:58 |
VanessaE |
c55/mt is just celeron55's branch, which may not always be up-to-date (though it is at the moment) |
| 22:59 |
kahrl |
it's outdated by 2 months |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
"This branch is 0 commits ahead and 0 commits behind master" |
| 23:00 |
Exio4 |
what branch |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
but then again, the commit history disagrees |
| 23:00 |
VanessaE |
weird. |
| 23:01 |
Exio4 |
the master of that repository? |
| 23:01 |
VanessaE |
*nod* |
| 23:01 |
VanessaE |
guess c55 hasn't pushed to his fork in a while :) |
| 23:02 |
kahrl |
heh, "fork" |
| 23:02 |
VanessaE |
fork, branch, clone, whatever :) |
| 23:02 |
VanessaE |
choose your favorite term :) |
| 23:02 |
ieksobes |
Compiling, yay |
| 23:05 |
kahrl |
I'm gonna choose "bough" |
| 23:05 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 23:05 |
VanessaE |
the question is, at what point does THIS bough break? ;) |
| 23:06 |
ieksobes |
Whoa, awesome |
| 23:06 |
ieksobes |
Tabs. |
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| 23:19 |
ieksobes |
I extracted the minetest_game too but it seems I still lack "common" mods? |
| 23:20 |
ieksobes |
wool, dye, fire... Hmm maybe one of the mods I tried to load. |
| 23:21 |
Exio4 |
ehm |
| 23:21 |
ieksobes |
Yeah. |
| 23:21 |
ieksobes |
Don't mind me, thanks I have the tabs and all now with the newer version. |
| 23:23 |
Jordach |
StarBlessed, im having issues with mt.viewskew.com, networking ones |
| 23:23 |
StarBlessed |
Ok, whats going on Jordach ? |
| 23:23 |
Jordach |
ssh fails to connect |
| 23:23 |
StarBlessed |
Ok, one sec. |
| 23:24 |
Jordach |
putty times out, and the apache site isnt accessable |
| 23:24 |
Jordach |
OpenVZ says it lives |
| 23:25 |
Exio4 |
anyone for a WG? |
| 23:26 |
Exio4 |
#wolfgame? :D |
| 23:27 |
StarBlessed |
Just looking now. |
| 23:27 |
PilzAdam |
free woffle game anyone? :-) |
| 23:28 |
StarBlessed |
Ok... Jordach... What did you do? The whole sbin directory and networking setup is missing. |
| 23:28 |
Jordach |
uh-oh |
| 23:28 |
StarBlessed |
Along with a load of conf files... |
| 23:28 |
Exio4 |
haha |
| 23:28 |
PilzAdam |
rm -rf / |
| 23:28 |
Exio4 |
rm -rf |
| 23:28 |
Jordach |
someone's cracked my box |
| 23:28 |
Jordach |
any last login data |
| 23:28 |
Jordach |
if it aint co.uk |
| 23:28 |
Jordach |
then it aint me |
| 23:29 |
StarBlessed |
Ok, one sec. |
| 23:29 |
Exio4 |
did you try using a password that wasn't 1234 nor 4269 |
| 23:29 |
Jordach |
oh shit |
| 23:29 |
* Jordach |
didnt change root's pass from changeme |
| 23:29 |
Jordach |
fuck. |
| 23:29 |
VanessaE |
uh oh |
| 23:29 |
Exio4 |
... |
| 23:29 |
VanessaE |
time to grab an rescue disc |
| 23:29 |
Exio4 |
..... |
| 23:29 |
VanessaE |
a |
| 23:29 |
Exio4 |
........................... |
| 23:30 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, VPS |
| 23:30 |
Exio4 |
are you serious |
| 23:30 |
Jordach |
Exio4, yup |
| 23:30 |
Exio4 |
you are a worse sysadmin than me man |
| 23:30 |
StarBlessed |
Jul 12 11:24:09 minetest sshd[17344]: Accepted password for BonS from 190.233.57.79 port 21500 ssh2 |
| 23:30 |
StarBlessed |
Jul 12 11:24:09 minetest sshd[17344]: pam_unix(sshd:session): session opened for user BonS by (uid=0) |
| 23:30 |
Jordach |
that isnt me |
| 23:30 |
Jordach |
i used /home/jordach |
| 23:30 |
PilzAdam |
LOL |
| 23:31 |
Exio4 |
%dns 190.233.57.79 - ISP: Telefonica del Peru; Organisation: Telefonica del Peru; Location: Trujillo, PE (Lat: -8.1167001724243 Long: -79.033302307129) |
| 23:31 |
StarBlessed |
Ok, Im gonna wipe and reinstall |
| 23:31 |
Exio4 |
err |
| 23:31 |
Jordach |
StarBlessed, any chance of saving the world? |
| 23:31 |
Jordach |
(i'd rather start anew though) |
| 23:31 |
Exio4 |
this is funny |
| 23:31 |
Exio4 |
but not that much |
| 23:31 |
Jordach |
Exio4, sounds like LM's on vacation |
| 23:31 |
Jordach |
:P |
| 23:31 |
Exio4 |
Jordach, nope man |
| 23:32 |
StarBlessed |
Possibly, but Im not going to risk it running for a minute longer |
| 23:32 |
Exio4 |
a shitty sysadmin |
| 23:32 |
Jordach |
it couldnt ddos anyone with no networking |
| 23:32 |
Exio4 |
who the hell would even LET password-login enabled for root?!?! |
| 23:32 |
Jordach |
Exio4, 100 char pass |
| 23:32 |
Jordach |
with words sha1'd |
| 23:33 |
Exio4 |
Jordach: doesn't matter, you won't recall that password a ssh key will work better |
| 23:33 |
Exio4 |
as you can actually have a "1234" password and won't matter unless public server |
| 23:33 |
Exio4 |
where people haz free shells |
| 23:33 |
Jordach |
hm - last time i used a ssh was a two months before mt.viewskew.com |
| 23:33 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, woffle |
| 23:33 |
Exio4 |
really man |
| 23:33 |
Jordach |
(i properly did root locks) |
| 23:33 |
Exio4 |
this is shame |
| 23:34 |
Jordach |
ful* |
| 23:34 |
Exio4 |
you didn't do them properly |
| 23:35 |
Exio4 |
really man, you're worse sysadmin than me and i suck at that :| |
| 23:35 |
Jordach |
Exio4, attribute that to my real short memory |
| 23:35 |
Exio4 |
Jordach: my memory is like using a ramfs as / |
| 23:35 |
Jordach |
i forget within an hour |
| 23:36 |
Exio4 |
if you are that shitty as sysadmin, don't be one |
| 23:36 |
kahrl |
Exio4: my memory is like that but not sending refresh signals to the DRAM |
| 23:36 |
Exio4 |
kahrl: D: |
| 23:37 |
Exio4 |
my memory is like a 4ghz memory ddr1 module :> |
| 23:37 |
Jordach |
Exio4, to be fair, i don't often ssh as root; just as myself with sudo |
| 23:38 |
Exio4 |
Jordach: as you apply common sense to that you disable the root login LIKE ANYONE WOULD DO |
| 23:38 |
Jordach |
StarBlessed, i see the disk space is now 3% used, from the 15% used |
| 23:38 |
Exio4 |
good job |
| 23:38 |
Jordach |
so: this_pass_word_will_never_be_guessed_by_machine_evar. |
| 23:38 |
Exio4 |
... |
| 23:39 |
Exio4 |
are you kidding me? |
| 23:39 |
StarBlessed |
New Pass : WTFDIDYOUDOJORDACH2013 |
| 23:39 |
Exio4 |
the password doesn't matter as long as you properly disable THE FUCKING ROOTLOGIN :D |
| 23:40 |
StarBlessed |
The joy of OpenVZ is you dont require a root pass. You can disable it completely and still access it from the host. |
| 23:40 |
Exio4 |
the password can be "hi" or can be "HSDIFHSEJRCHENTU34ILDRH4I3TCFH4UFCJ4U3HJR435^$%^#$F5C34VB54C6&v365J64YU6VH45Y45T6$%^&$%y3TG45CF645V656756567B45U34JH65J346#$^#$^%345" |
| 23:40 |
Exio4 |
as long as you disable the root login, you can't join |
| 23:40 |
Jordach |
OpenVZ is truly flexible (i used OVZ before with my last VPS) |
| 23:40 |
StarBlessed |
I will secure the server and give you an account Jordach. I think perhaps I made a mistake allowing root last time. |
| 23:41 |
Jordach |
StarBlessed, added myself under sudo with password |
| 23:41 |
Jordach |
root can be binned; eg right now |
| 23:41 |
Jordach |
adduser ftw |
| 23:42 |
sokomine |
does adding a ? after the modname in depends.txt work? (in the way of making the depending optional) |
| 23:42 |
Jordach |
yes |
| 23:43 |
Jordach |
StarBlessed, i think my problem was the the root login got scrambled after 24 hours daily |
| 23:43 |
Jordach |
(on the last vps) |
| 23:44 |
Jordach |
they were pro vps hosts :P |
| 23:44 |
sokomine |
hm. i mixed one normal dependency with an optional one, but the mod wasn't loaded :-( my compiled version is only a couple of days old |
| 23:44 |
Jordach |
sokomine, no idea? is the .txt formatted as dos or unix |
| 23:45 |
kahrl |
sokomine: it should work, anything noteworthy in debug.txt? |
| 23:45 |
sokomine |
unix |
| 23:45 |
Jordach |
sounds right |
| 23:45 |
sokomine |
hm, the mod i intended to soft-depend on wasn't loaded because one of its dependencies wasn't fulfilled. perhaps that was the reason? will try again once the newest version is compiled |
| 23:46 |
Kacey |
ShadowNinja, you around? |
| 23:46 |
ShadowNinja |
Kacey: Yes. |
| 23:46 |
Jordach |
Kacey, server online within the hour as a public one |
| 23:46 |
Jordach |
(say redcrabs) |
| 23:47 |
StarBlessed |
Jordach: root is disabled |
| 23:47 |
Jordach |
right |
| 23:47 |
Jordach |
jordach should be the last man standing |
| 23:48 |
* Jordach |
sets shit to GO |
| 23:48 |
Jordach |
right -- almost ready with my scripty |
| 23:48 |
Jordach |
-y |
| 23:49 |
Kacey |
!up 67.162.156.91 |
| 23:49 |
MinetestBot |
67.162.156.91:30000 seems to be down |
| 23:49 |
Exio4 |
i hope your password isn't 1234 now |
| 23:49 |
Exio4 |
8) |
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| 23:50 |
Jordach |
Exio4, haha |
| 23:51 |
Kacey |
!up 67.162.156.91 |
| 23:51 |
MinetestBot |
67.162.156.91:30000 is up (276ms) |
| 23:52 |
sokomine |
ah yes: seems the half-loaded mod was the problem (one that depended on another one that wasn't installed). this lead to the soft-dependency somehow beeing considered as a hard dependency... |
| 23:55 |
sokomine |
ah yes: when the chat coveres the area a menu uses, the menu cannot be used. that seems to have been the case for some time. don't know if it's just like that on my machine... |
| 23:55 |
sokomine |
turning chat off or playing fullscreen helps |
| 23:56 |
sokomine |
so nothing serious. just wanted to say that the bug's still there |
