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00:00 LazyJ I figured changing some aliases would correct that.
00:00 sokomine yes, that's stairsplus/moreblocks-related. there was a time when that caused some trouble. my circular saw got included, then 6d facedir came up, some due to that new option now surplus (mirrored/rotated) shapes got dropped; one or two days later, there was a method of transition for old blocks developed
00:00 LazyJ The old world was 2.2gb
00:01 sokomine that is small compared to redcrabs world. i don't know how large the other ones are
00:01 sokomine having a program that rewrites the coordinates (indices) of old maps to include them in new maps would be fine
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00:43 PilzAdam bye
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01:54 NekoGloop What is a man?!
02:00 ungali indeed
02:05 bas080 NekoGloop, a man is someone that takes responsibility for his actions. Atleast that's what i was thought.
02:06 NekoGloop A man is a miserable little pile of secrets!
02:06 bas080 maybe that;s the secret to being a man. Not having to hide your secrets
02:07 sokomine an alien: http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/71/screenshot_3327023902.png
02:07 sokomine exterminate!
02:07 bas080 whut???
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02:08 bas080 where did you find this?
02:08 sokomine the alien? :-)
02:08 bas080 yes
02:09 sokomine hint: it's "head" is rotating
02:09 bas080 the shape is very irregular.
02:09 bas080 Is it a mod your working on?
02:09 Menche looks like dropped desert stone items
02:10 Menche well, the red part
02:10 sokomine no, it's a bug. a bug that causes a lot of framerate drop in the long run :-(
02:10 bas080 nice
02:10 bas080 i mean, no that's bad
02:10 Menche minetest's AWESOME handling of entities
02:11 sokomine actually, the bottom of the "alien" are homedecor table stands. the top is desert sandstone. all dropped items - duplicated due to a bug (no, certainly not homedecors' fault - it just looks funny in this combination)
02:11 bas080 is that sarcasm? Atleast you noticed that it's a feature
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04:14 hdastwb Menche, do you have any idea what's up with the buckets on your server?
04:38 VanessaE bbl
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04:50 Eli__ Hi
04:50 Eli__ Any1 ther
04:50 Eli__ Any1 there
04:52 marktraceur Yes.
05:01 ShadowNinja Oh, only 70...
05:02 ShadowNinja (-bots)
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07:42 Calinou the server list is still a bit broken
07:43 Calinou no flags, no player count, no background, no selection highlight, list goes to bottom when clicking a server
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08:49 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Don't Step On A Bee Day! :-D
08:51 * Calinou steps on a bee
08:51 Calinou bee says "hax"
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09:13 Calinou lol
09:13 Calinou a spambot reported the first post of "Post your screenshots" and spammed in that report
09:13 Calinou hi Taoki
09:13 Taoki hi
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10:55 VanessaE good morning all.
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11:04 Taoki hi
11:04 Taoki http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98955 This was surely though of in the past, but I hope someone can take a look at the idea sometime
11:05 VanessaE Taoki: good luck with that...
11:06 Taoki I doubt I'm one to even go in something that advanced :P But I know it should be possible at least
11:06 Zeg9 Has anyone ever seen a pyramid biome ? http://oi42.tinypic.com/2e0mges.jpg
11:08 VanessaE Zeg9: interesting
11:08 * Zeg9 can't find out how to use the fill_ratio...
11:08 Zeg9 if I put 0.5 it results in this, but 0.2 in no pyramid at all
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11:14 Zeg9 Why  won't sidelen = 1 work ?
11:14 Zeg9 ^ in register_decoration
11:14 VanessaE beats me, I've not messed with any of that new stuff
11:15 Zeg9 :/
11:15 Zeg9 Guess I'm going to code it myself...
11:16 VanessaE (of course I don't get much into mapgen-related stuff anyways, moretrees is about as far as I needed to go with that)
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11:16 Zeg9 VanessaE: do you know how to use noise_params?
11:16 VanessaE nope
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11:27 webdesigner97 VE?
11:27 VanessaE hi
11:28 webdesigner97 :)
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11:28 webdesigner97 how do you make these nice headlines in your forum posts?
11:28 Zeg9 I guess the mapgen is the mapgen...
11:28 VanessaE magic :D
11:28 webdesigner97 ...
11:28 Zeg9 mapgen is the most boring thing to test*
11:28 * webdesigner97 wants to know
11:28 VanessaE [h][b][u]Pipeworks[/u][/b][/h]
11:28 VanessaE like that
11:29 webdesigner97 thx very much I ♥ you
11:29 VanessaE it's the [h][/h] that does the trick
11:29 VanessaE now,
11:29 VanessaE about stairsplus
11:29 VanessaE what doesn't work? :)
11:29 webdesigner97 ouch
11:30 VanessaE ouch?
11:30 webdesigner97 still same as in our last conversation, i didn't do much on it (and i have to eat soon), so I can't do that today. maybe this evening or tomorrow or next version
11:30 VanessaE ok
11:30 VanessaE let me know when you want to try it, I'll walk you through iy
11:30 VanessaE it*
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11:31 VanessaE aw shit, everyone hide!
11:31 * PilzAdam hides
11:31 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
11:31 Zeg9 Hi
11:31 VanessaE hi
11:31 webdesigner97 ok, VE :)
11:32 Zeg9 PilzAdam, could you help me with register_decoration ? :D
11:32 PilzAdam what do you want to do?
11:32 Zeg9 spawn pyramids in deserts
11:32 Zeg9 I got them spawning, but they either don't spawn at all, or spawn in clusters.
11:33 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest/blob/master/mods/base/init.lua#L1002
11:33 Zeg9 I've used this but... the problem above
11:33 PilzAdam what fill_ratio do you have?
11:34 Zeg9 I've tried a lot of them, even noise_params
11:34 PilzAdam what sidelen do you use?
11:34 Zeg9 2; since 1 doesn't work
11:34 PilzAdam what is the size of one pyramid?
11:35 Zeg9 20x10x20
11:35 PilzAdam set sidelen to 80 and try again
11:35 Zeg9 k
11:37 PilzAdam VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98950#p98950
11:37 Zeg9 Thanks Adam, works way better
11:37 VanessaE PilzAdam: killed.
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12:19 sfan5 h
12:19 sfan5 *hi
12:19 VanessaE hi
12:20 sfan5 !up sfan5.duckdns.org 30002
12:20 MinetestBot sfan5.duckdns.org:30002 is up (319ms)
12:21 sfan5 MinetestBot!
12:21 MinetestBot sfan5!
12:21 sfan5 fuck
12:21 sfan5 my hdd crashed, but linux is still running
12:22 VanessaE hope you have backups :(
12:22 VanessaE (especially since linux tends to get pissy when its root fs goes awry)
12:31 ruskie VanessaE, only if it's not partitioned
12:33 VanessaE maybe, though I've seen it happen on properly-partitioned setups also
12:37 ruskie I've had it happen once or twice in the 16 years or so of using/admining linux
12:37 ruskie generally isn't an issue outside of boot
12:37 VanessaE same here, its only been a couple of times over the past...G*d how long has it been now
12:38 VanessaE about 16 or 17 years I guess
12:38 ruskie I've more often nuked the system by doing stupid stuff when tired hehe
12:39 VanessaE heh
12:39 VanessaE same here
12:39 VanessaE can't count the number of times I've just re-installed because it was easier than trying to "fix it the right way" :D
12:39 ruskie I generally atleast consider how to fix it and try to
12:39 VanessaE (or because I got tired of my current distro)
12:39 ruskie depends on the damage after fixing
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12:41 ruskie I generally keep the same install for years
12:41 ruskie and try to avoid reinstalling
12:41 VanessaE for me, it's usually enough to say "fuck it, run a backup and re-install" :)
12:41 ruskie heh
12:41 ruskie backups are done automatically so not an issue for me
12:41 ruskie I'll still run a manual one just in case
12:41 VanessaE mine go to an external HD that I prefer to leave turned off
12:42 ruskie ahh mine go to internal HD and offsite to a server half way around the planet
12:42 VanessaE (but it's trivial to run one manually thanks to rsync and a script I wrote some years ago)
12:42 VanessaE paranoid much? :)
12:42 ruskie I've been using backup-manager for years
12:42 ruskie VanessaE, am paranoid that's sure(the fact that the backups are encrypted should tell you such ;) )
12:43 VanessaE heh
12:43 ruskie don't much care for the configs and such but they contain the mailserver data store as well
12:43 ruskie and the remote backups have helped when the local drives failed
12:44 ruskie dodged a bullet half a year ago just managed to replace the raid1 disks a bit before total failure
12:44 VanessaE meh, haven't messed with RAID since...forever
12:45 ruskie I run both my desktop and my server on raid1 for teh os and the important stuff
12:45 VanessaE SSD for system/home, HDD for mass storage, and external HDD for backup purposes seems to suit my setup fine
12:45 ruskie SSDs would die fast with my use profile
12:45 ruskie so spinning rust it is for me
12:47 VanessaE eh, SSDs aren't as bad as the naysayers make them otu to be
12:48 VanessaE unless you're writing like 10 TB a day continuous, an SSD isn't gonna wear out very quickly.
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12:48 ruskie they are with my use case
12:48 ruskie I download multiple GBs each day and delete the same amount as well
12:48 ruskie daily
12:49 * Calinou is full SSD
12:49 Calinou and I do backups to a 7 year old external HDD \o/
12:49 Calinou which is smaller than my SSD
12:49 ruskie spinning rust will generally die after a few years of that and I doubt SSD would handle it differently
12:50 VanessaE ruskie: SSD will handle it fairly well if you have a reasonably-sized drive
12:51 Calinou a TLC-based samsung 840 stopped working after 763 TiB of written data
12:51 VanessaE to the tune of some 2-3 PB of writes to kill a 256GB disk
12:51 Calinou and note that MLC-based SSDs last 4 times as long
12:51 ruskie VanessaE, I have atm some 120gb of youtube vids downloaded... atleast 1/3rd of that will be replaced by new ones by tomorrow evening
12:52 VanessaE ruskie: for mass storage data like that, of course you should write that stuff to spinning rust
12:52 Calinou fun fact: downloading youtube videos breaks their TOS 8)
12:52 VanessaE but believe me, SSD for home/system for general usage really does make a difference.
12:52 ruskie Calinou, fun fact: I don't give a crap since i don't have an account with them
12:52 ruskie Calinou, so I never accepted any ToS
12:53 PilzAdam you accept the TOS by using their services
12:53 * Calinou rageface
12:53 Calinou *clicks random steam game*
12:53 Calinou autoplay video with sound
12:54 ruskie PilzAdam, the way I see if it's a binding legal agreement it needs to be explicitly accepted so unless they actually use some technical way to limit me I don't see an issue
12:54 ruskie anyway if I watch it via a flash plugin I will also download it
12:54 ruskie since that's what streaming is... downloading
12:55 ruskie and in some cases it gets written to a local drive as well
12:55 PilzAdam you forget that google has more money for lawyers than you
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12:57 ruskie PilzAdam, they can have it, they would a) need to find me b) get a case to the courts c) show that what I was doing was against their ToS(which I never accepted, was prompted to read or notified in anyway) d) and one can always go along with reasonable/fair use of service
12:58 VanessaE ruskie: that begs the question - WHY do you download all those videos, only to delete them later?  format shifting?  ripping audio?  inquiring minds wanna know ;)
12:58 ruskie VanessaE, I don't run flash at all
12:58 ruskie so format shifitng would be the right answer I guess
12:58 ruskie I watch them and then delete them
12:58 VanessaE youtube can do HTML 5 now...
12:58 PilzAdam https://www.youtube.com/html5
12:58 ruskie yes sure
12:58 VanessaE supposedly you can get by without flash at all.
12:59 ruskie except it sucks for anything most of the time
12:59 ruskie and it fails to work with vids that have ads on them
12:59 ruskie not to mention browsers tend to have a rather sucky implementation
12:59 VanessaE (that aside, format shifting is a perfectly legit use of their service)
13:00 ruskie video and audio really shouldn't be embedded in a browser
13:00 ruskie any more than GL(via webgl)
13:01 ruskie also it's much easier to watch let's plays and such(which is what I primarily watch) without needing to use a clunky web interface instead of a dedicated media player app with a playlist
13:02 VanessaE there's still the other question of how the fuck you are able to download that much data per day/month without your ISP throwing a shit fit :D
13:02 ruskie VanessaE, because all our ISPs don't have download quotas
13:02 ruskie we pay for bandwidth
13:02 VanessaE must be some cheap bandwidth then :)
13:03 ruskie 60eur for 28/2.5Mbit connection+cabletv+voip service with ata termination
13:04 VanessaE not bad.
13:04 ruskie it's way to much for my own needs really
13:04 ruskie I'd be happy with a 5/5 or 10/10 connection
13:04 VanessaE I pay $54/mo (about 42 euros) for 30/3 but no tv/voip (don't need it)
13:04 ruskie but the cableco doesn't offer it
13:06 ruskie I could pay less without voip and tv
13:06 ruskie but frankly only reason I still pay for TV is so that I can torrent tv shows(the few I still watch)
13:07 ruskie that there's some money getting to the right people in the end
13:08 ruskie anyway 15:00 and then some... off home
13:20 Calinou <ruskie> video and audio really shouldn't be embedded in a browser
13:20 Calinou yey, the old "people don't need performance" debate 8)
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13:29 harrison back in the day we didn't have video in the browser. if we wanted a filmstrip we had to put in a requistion to the AV department and they were usually surly. And we liked it.
13:29 john_minetest I read "old people don't need performance" and thought of grandparents playing battlefield...
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13:32 john_cephalopoda There are too many universities... I don't know where to apply. And there are way too many rankings telling you that an univerity is the best. Of course in the next ranking it is not even on the list...
13:37 Exio [09:55:22] <ruskie> and in some cases it gets written to a local drive as well
13:37 Exio that is how i downloaded videos
13:39 Exio letting flash do its job
13:39 ruskie hehe
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13:41 PilzAdam john_minetest, MinetestBot has a !rand now
13:41 Exio and for SSDs, i'm thinking about byying a small now for my / and swap, not more
13:42 Exio buying*
13:42 VanessaE don't put swap on an SSD
13:42 VanessaE just buy more RAM instead for that
13:42 ruskie still need some swap for emergency
13:42 Exio VanessaE: i rarely use the swap
13:42 VanessaE the only thing swap is good for is hibernating.
13:42 PilzAdam Pilztest has only 1 craftitem now!
13:42 Exio but when i do, it kills the performance of my whole system because it is insanely slow
13:42 ruskie no it's good when you have a runaway memleak
13:43 Exio -/+ buffers/cache:       1185      10805
13:43 ruskie which frankly most browsers still are
13:43 Exio yes
13:43 Exio VanessaE: i don't hibernate now, i prefer a reboot :P
13:44 john_minetest PilzAdam: I want a good university and not a random one. :D
13:44 sfan5 !rand 100
13:44 ruskie I never liked hibernate but I can accept that it might have it's value on laptops
13:44 sfan5 oh come on
13:44 PilzAdam MinetestBot: reload rutils.py
13:44 MinetestBot PilzAdam: rutils.py: no such module!
13:44 PilzAdam MinetestBot: reload rutils
13:44 MinetestBot PilzAdam: <module 'rutils' from '/home/xyz/bot/modules/rutils.pyc'> (version: 2013-06-28 17:21:39)
13:44 Exio ruskie, i don't hibernate *now* that i use my desktop :P
13:44 PilzAdam !rand 10
13:44 Exio in laptops, it is pretty well though
13:44 Exio suspend + hibernate ;P
13:45 sfan5 PilzAdam: he hasn't pulled the repo yet
13:45 PilzAdam yea
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13:46 VanessaE If I didn't run a server, I'd just suspend before going to bed
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13:47 VanessaE ruskie: as for a runaway mem leak, better to have the PC crash in 10 seconds than churn for half an hour :-/
13:48 Exio the OOM is a bit dumb
13:48 VanessaE my experience with swap has always been that by the time I can get it into a state where I can see what started it off into never-never land, it's already a lost cause
13:49 Exio VanessaE: the idea is don't have random things crashing
13:49 VanessaE Exio: it's a desktop environment.  "random things crashing" kinda comes with the territory :-/
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13:50 Exio VanessaE: you don't want your browser to crash because you started something before and it went mad, and when you get "into the red area" with only MBs left of ram, the whole system would look like "stuck"
13:51 Exio when you are something and the whole system gets stuck, you'll probably end with a reboot if 4 seconds after that it didn't work or recovered
13:51 Exio you are doing*
13:52 Calinou <VanessaE> don't put swap on an SSD
13:52 Calinou again FUD
13:52 Calinou put 1GB of swap, so that you don't crash if you run out of RAM
13:52 Calinou anyway it's not like 8GB of RAM are ridiculously expensive
13:52 john_minetest SSDs have 1000 times rewritable.
13:52 Calinou depends
13:53 john_minetest With swap these 1000 times are over soon.
13:53 Calinou it depends 1) on flash type 2) on thickness
13:53 VanessaE john_minetest: more like 100,000 or so
13:53 Calinou 21nm MLC lasts 3000 cycles, 21nm TLC 750
13:53 Calinou most SLC lasts 10000-100000
13:53 Calinou note that these cycles are given data, it can last more, or less
13:53 Calinou but usually more :P
13:53 Calinou <john_minetest> With swap these 1000 times are over soon.
13:53 Calinou I use like 15MB of swap every day...
13:54 Exio i don't use the swap normally
13:54 Calinou it's sad how people still believe everything they heard
13:54 Exio right now i'm using about 2gb of ram, and it would go up to 10GB if i start a VM + MC + CS CZ or whatever
13:55 john_minetest For USB flash it is thousand times rewritable. Of course not all the SSD space is used all the time so it will hold longer..
13:55 Calinou there is no such thing as "USB flash"
13:55 Calinou most keys are TLC-based, high end ones MLC-based
13:55 Calinou there is something more important: flash retention
13:56 Calinou if you write data, after a few years it might be corrupted if you don't access it
13:56 Calinou 10 years when a SSD is new, this time can "fall" to 1 year after 10 years :P
13:56 Calinou so there is no point in trying to keep a SSD more than ~10 years
13:57 Exio so, my 27GB harddisk would havedied or what?
13:57 Calinou I bet it also applies to HDDs, but in a different way
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14:01 john_minetest Oh, ChanServ has netsplit.
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14:01 sfan5 really?
14:01 sfan5 !op
14:01 sfan5 good we have MinetestBot ^^
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14:37 sfan5 #freenode while +mz: /r/nocontext
14:41 VanessaE bbl
14:53 PilzAdam !op
14:53 * PilzAdam joins OP party
14:55 Exio4 !op Exio4
14:55 Exio4 :D
14:56 PilzAdam !op Exio4
14:57 Exio4 lol?
14:57 john_minetest !op john_minetest
14:57 PilzAdam !op john_minetest
14:58 Exio4 seems legit
14:58 Exio4 sfan5 will kill you though ;P
14:58 PilzAdam lets see what happens ;-)
14:58 Exio4 !op landmine
14:58 sfan5 Exio4: no
14:58 Exio4 7obankick PilzAdam
14:58 Exio4 oops
14:59 Exio4 sfan5, what about adding +eI? (just checking :P)
14:59 sfan5 whats +e and whats +I ?
14:59 Exio4 +e = exception list, for bans or quiets
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14:59 Exio4 +I = invite list, you can join even with +i
14:59 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net
14:59 Exio4 i would use $a:<accountname> for ops
15:00 john_minetest Now the wiki is in the topic.
15:00 sfan5 good
15:00 Exio4 sfan5, example ^, nobody that isn't OP will see it btw
15:00 Jordach when did john_minetest get OP
15:00 sfan5 !op Jordach
15:00 Exio4 lol
15:00 sfan5 Jordach: what were you asking?
15:00 Jordach LOL
15:00 Jordach oops
15:00 ShadowNinja Um...
15:00 sfan5 were having an OP party
15:00 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP party!
15:00 * ShadowNinja scrolls
15:01 Jordach ShadowNinja, can you github your protector
15:01 Jordach (i've been looking for it for some time now.)
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15:01 Axew do u luv me
15:01 Exio4 no, we don't
15:01 Axew Exio4 u r ugly
15:01 Jordach http://24.media.tumblr.com/50681a805561cd8fd0e0391a9de24467/tumblr_menghmmr3I1qbvaf3o1_500.gif
15:02 ShadowNinja Jordach: Grab it from my server and test it first.
15:02 Jordach point me the IP please
15:02 sfan5 Jordach: could you use id.gd for your urls?
15:02 ShadowNinja shadowninja.minetest.net
15:02 sfan5 !up shadowninja.minetest.net
15:02 MinetestBot shadowninja.minetest.net:30000 is up (236ms)
15:02 Jordach cheers mate
15:02 ShadowNinja It should be in the dirlist.
15:03 Jordach areas.tar.gz
15:03 ShadowNinja Yep.
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15:03 Jordach hai ChanServ
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15:04 sfan5 ChanServ: come on, you broke it
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15:04 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP party!
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15:04 sfan5 !op Exio4
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15:05 Exio4 sfan5, thanks! :P
15:05 ShadowNinja Jordach: Hmmm, want a zip?
15:05 Jordach i have WinRAR
15:05 Jordach and a linux server
15:06 ShadowNinja Ok, good.
15:06 Exio4 sfan5, what do you think about +eI to ops? :P
15:07 sfan5 Exio4: not a bad idea
15:08 Jordach +eI is?
15:08 PilzAdam Jordach, read logs
15:09 Jordach you do realise i'm *almost* operator material right
15:09 Exio4 *almost* in what way
15:10 Jordach i can handle multiple requests, but i blow my top now and then; stops burn out completely
15:10 Jordach also: i should finish implementing my automatic responces for stuck users in IRC with my custom user commands
15:12 Jordach which i might port to MinetestBot
15:12 Jordach so basic things, such as simplified mod installs (eg, how to use github mods, as most people are real dumb sometimes, even when american)
15:13 Jordach these guides will be on minetest.net/doku.php
15:13 Jordach idea, lets op VanessaE
15:13 Jordach lets op the OPs
15:13 Exio4 anyway
15:13 Exio4 chanserv is already back :P
15:14 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98994#p98994
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15:14 Jordach sfan5, white text alarm
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15:15 Jordach (i usually have them now and then for fun!)
15:16 Jordach btw, two weeks and im no longer at school
15:16 Jordach that means you have me 24/7
15:16 sfan5 why doesn't anyone get that the bg color of the forum is NOT #FFFFFF
15:16 Jordach #transp
15:16 Jordach ^ that's it
15:16 Jordach im talking about the <body>
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15:18 sfan5 Jordach: if #FAFAFA
15:18 sfan5 *its
15:18 * sfan5 made the text truly invisible
15:19 Jordach sfan5, see, i make these jokes for fun
15:21 Jordach sfan5, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98996#p98996 learned. #FAFAFA
15:23 Jordach VanessaE, HDX Sam II incoming
15:25 john_minetest http://wiki.minetest.net/Crafting#Tool_Recipes looks broken.
15:25 Jordach uhoh
15:25 PilzAdam ^ thexyz
15:25 Jordach i just got this giant RED X in MCSkin3D
15:26 Jordach i know my GPU isn't happy
15:26 * sfan5 's HDD is not happy
15:26 sfan5 crashed 4 times in the last week
15:26 sfan5 s/in the//
15:32 Jordach sfan5, huh
15:32 Jordach mine's a 160GB PoS
15:32 Jordach nearly 7 years old
15:32 * sfan5 haz a ~2 years old 500GB <dunno> HDD
15:32 Jordach /nick chanserv
15:33 Jordach sfan5, see older hardware works better than newer
15:33 sfan5 Jordach: you canc't
15:33 Jordach -c
15:33 sfan5 Jordach: theres also... planned obsolence
15:33 Exio4 Jordach: my AMD duron works pretty l33t, but the problem is that my phone now is faster
15:34 sfan5 !tw freenodestaff
15:34 MinetestBot @annelyze @brammm Geweldig! U bent van harte welkom. :-) (@freenodestaff)
15:34 Jordach i can actually read that
15:34 Jordach without even learning german
15:34 sfan5 thats not german
15:34 Jordach ...it looks like it
15:34 Exio4 lol...
15:35 Jordach anyone wanna see a HDX Sam II
15:35 sfan5 that dutch it think
15:35 * sfan5
15:35 Jordach its still got the 8px styles, with a HDX sort of bumpmap
15:36 Jordach and now the hard part: downloading HDX
15:37 * Jordach watches the MB go up
15:40 sfan5 MB evolves to....
15:40 sfan5 ...
15:40 sfan5 GB!!!!
15:40 PilzAdam soso, Jordach kann also Deutsch lesen?
15:40 sfan5 PilzAdam: der tweet sah mir eher nach Niederländisch aus..
15:40 Exio4 wat
15:41 Jordach last night i almost had a heart attack
15:41 Jordach was downloading a file through http at 50kb/s
15:41 PilzAdam sfan5, wollte nur prüfen ob er _wirklich_ Deutsch kann ;-)
15:41 Jordach file being 660mb in size, finished and then my internet dide
15:41 Jordach died*
15:42 sfan5 Jordach: bad joke alert http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99000#p99000
15:42 Jordach 99000th post
15:42 Jordach LOL
15:43 sfan5 Jordach: you can continue downloads with "wget -c"
15:43 Jordach sfan5, this is them stupid pay for fast download sites
15:43 * Jordach sighs
15:43 * Jordach wishes they should have used torrent links
15:43 Jordach resumable and faster at times
15:43 * PilzAdam will now always hit alt+a before reading Jordach's or sfan5's posts
15:44 Jordach oh shit
15:44 Jordach i missed that
15:44 Jordach nice sfan5
15:44 sfan5 file1.info is a pretty nice download site, no registration need and full speed dl
15:44 sfan5 PilzAdam: hehe
15:44 PilzAdam I wonder how difficult it is to hack into FF to forbid font with same color as bg
15:45 * Jordach hugs MinetestBot
15:45 Jordach PilzAdam, extensions!
15:45 PilzAdam FontBlockPlus
15:45 * MinetestBot purrs
15:45 Jordach lol
15:46 Jordach brb - Jordach.system.data_dump(all)
15:46 Jordach purging memory from 24hrs ago
15:46 sfan5 > Jordach.system.info.uname.get(all)
15:47 sfan5 apparently that function is broken
15:48 Jordach system data purged
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15:48 MarkTwain == NickServ Services are currently unavailable
15:49 MarkTwain ???
15:49 Jordach * NickServ :Services are currently unavailable
15:49 sfan5 MarkTwain: -> #freenode /topic: "The network is experiencing disruption at present. Services (NickServ, ChanServ, etc) may be unresponsive."
15:49 Jordach sounds like a DDoS
15:49 MarkTwain okay
15:49 * Jordach wonders who'd attack freenode
15:50 Jordach ....Microsoft
15:50 * MarkTwain coughs
15:51 sfan5 Jordach: #freenode May 14 17:32:45 <Wug>nanotube: its 14 year olds with huge eboners and the 30 day free trial on rentabotnet.ru
15:51 Jordach Sorry, the website rentabotnet.ru cannot be found.
15:52 sfan5 its a joke
15:52 Jordach ikr
15:52 Jordach ugh, also: i hate people who use speed limiting download sites and use .rar with .part1 and .part2
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15:53 sfan5 I hate people who use .rar
15:54 Jordach same here
15:54 Jordach it's just the face the world uses windows and winRar is freeware
15:54 Jordach fact*
15:54 PilzAdam those people mostly have a mental disorder
15:54 PilzAdam you cant blame them for that
15:54 john_minetest The coolest compression file extensions are .zip , .tar.gz and .tar.xz
15:55 john_minetest Of those I prefer tar.gz because it is the only one where I know the commandline: "tar xfvz name.tar.gz"
15:56 john_minetest 7z is also nice but only for windows.
15:56 PilzAdam every single Linux distor out there supports .tar.gz
15:56 PilzAdam -distro
15:56 PilzAdam **
15:57 sfan5 john_minetest: 7z is also nice for linux, there no gui but still nice
15:57 PilzAdam for win builds of Minetest: .zip ~8 MiB, .7z ~ 5Mib
15:58 Jordach http://imgur.com/gallery/Rh7qD82
15:58 MarkTwain ^^^Sad
15:58 MarkTwain lol
15:58 PilzAdam spam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99002#p99002
15:59 john_minetest sfan5: Yeah, but for every new compression file extension I have to learn the CLI commands. I have got xarchiver as a gui for most but it hasn't got 7z unfortunately.
15:59 sfan5 PilzAdam: gone
15:59 MarkTwain !server ping:most
15:59 MinetestBot MarkTwain: Menche's Public Freebuild | menche.servegame.com | Clients: 3/100, 16 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.293
15:59 sfan5 john_minetest: 7z x <file>
15:59 proller john_minetest, learn mc
15:59 MarkTwain !server ping:meadiumest
15:59 MinetestBot MarkTwain: No results
15:59 MarkTwain eh..
16:00 PilzAdam john_minetest, I use KDE's ark, thats pretty awesome
16:01 harrison minecraft is better than minetest because minecraft has troll mobs
16:01 harrison (see what i did there?)
16:01 harrison metalevel trolling
16:01 * harrison is all about meta
16:01 * harrison thinks "i never met a meta i didn't like"
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16:02 john_minetest I should maybe switch to an official archiver instead of using xarchiver from Arch User Repository. But it works so I don't care.
16:02 Jordach btw, http://i.imgur.com/KGFH1QH.png
16:03 john_minetest "wool_white.jpg"
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16:03 john_minetest In the layers of the gimp layer menu.
16:05 PilzAdam .jpg? seems like HDX
16:05 proller i'm +1 for .xz
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16:11 Jordach and ow fuck
16:11 Jordach slicing your finger open on a laptop expansion bay hurts
16:11 Jordach (i did that sunday!)
16:12 MarkTwain Oops
16:13 MarkTwain :)
16:17 Jordach Sam II HDX nearling completion
16:28 Jordach Sam II HDX@ http://i.imgur.com/SFcRNj7.png
16:28 Jordach VanessaE, PilzAdam ^
16:28 Jordach sfan5, ^
16:28 sfan5 nawce
16:28 Exio4 Jordach: tar xvf works normally :P
16:28 Exio4 john_minetest: *
16:29 * Jordach grunts at Exio4
16:29 Jordach i aint john_minetest
16:29 Exio4 tar is now 42% more user friendly
16:29 Jordach :3
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16:29 Jordach hello kahrl
16:30 Mati^1 left #minetest
16:30 Jordach ...and sfan5's bouncer works as usual
16:30 Mati^1 joined #minetest
16:31 sfan5 Jordach: which bouncer?
16:31 Jordach minetest.ru
16:31 Jordach <sfan5> nice sofa
16:31 Jordach cheers
16:31 sfan5 wat
16:31 sfan5 w8
16:31 sfan5 oh
16:31 sfan5 ...
16:32 * Jordach wonders if someone has converted VanessaE's 64x pack into a MC pack yet
16:32 Jordach it's a free license, make it so!
16:37 NakedFury converting MC packs is gonna be easier now
16:37 Jordach way way way easier
16:37 Exio4 now?
16:37 Exio4 since 1.4
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16:37 Exio4 or did they change the format, other time?
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16:45 Kacey OP party?
16:46 OWNSyouAll_DESKT joined #minetest
16:46 PilzAdam yes
16:46 MarkTwain I am going to make a map
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16:48 Kacey what is an op party?
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17:01 john_minetest Jordach: Does Sam II HDX have a normal map?
17:01 Jordach nopenopenope
17:02 Jordach and i just survived some muther fuckin hot chillit
17:02 Jordach -t
17:02 Jordach we put it in my microwave noodles
17:02 john_minetest Jordach: This looks like a normal/bump map: http://i.imgur.com/SFcRNj7.png
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17:12 Kacey seriously, what is an op party?
17:13 Jordach Kacey, can i show you
17:13 Kacey sure
17:13 Jordach (you'll have to re-join #minetest)
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17:13 Jordach basically, you know how you get /kick
17:13 Jordach i can do that
17:13 Jordach plus bans
17:13 Jordach and other shit in the middle
17:14 Kacey hang on, re-joining
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17:14 Jordach Kacey, sign in with webchat with a random nick, lemme show you
17:14 Kacey k
17:15 Jordach (ping me first.)
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17:15 TROLOLOL Jordach: i am here
17:15 Jordach righty
17:15 Jordach /kick TROLOLOL
17:15 Jordach will kick you from the  channel
17:15 TROLOLOL was kicked by Jordach: TROLOLOL
17:16 Jordach and there you go
17:16 Kacey i know how to kick
17:16 Jordach i wont ban as you have the same IP
17:16 Jordach which is 1) mean, 2) Kacey cant come here
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17:17 webdesigner97 hi!
17:17 * Jordach sees webdesigner97 has played on wazuclan's server before
17:17 Kacey i think that on a normal day, core devs should be OPs and the rest of us shouldhave voice and then people we dont want (lamefun, LM, etc...) should be a normal user without voice or op...
17:18 webdesigner97 yes, some months ago i think ;)
17:18 Jordach voice is just a tag
17:18 Jordach nothing special
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17:19 Jordach important dev
17:19 sfan5 voice is only useful if the channel in +m
17:19 Jordach otherwise its not useful
17:19 sfan5 (or to highlight ppl like in #minetest-dev)
17:20 Jordach hey LazyJ
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17:21 LazyJ G'mornin', Jordach :)
17:21 Jordach because im nice :P
17:22 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice party!
17:22 Jordach and you admin the most played server besides redcrabs
17:24 Kacey which one?
17:24 Jordach wazuclan.com
17:24 Jordach or linuxgaming.us
17:25 Kacey aah i played on it once
17:25 Kacey i would say Menche's is 3rd then
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17:30 * sfan5 just tried to use "make commit" derp
17:34 Jordach lol
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17:38 Jordach no mask for Calinou today
17:38 TheLastProject Even Jordach gets OP?
17:38 TheLastProject :(
17:38 TheLastProject Jordach! I'm your friend! You know? :D
17:39 TheLastProject Nah, too desperate...
17:39 Exio4 lol +v
17:40 john_minetest Epic song: https://soundcloud.com/parceque-2/funk-soul-brother
17:40 john_minetest What does voice do again?
17:41 john_minetest Doesn't it allow talking if the channel is muted?
17:41 TheLastProject Exactly, john_minetest
17:42 Exio4 /mode +v *
17:42 Exio4 (ofc it won't work ;P)
17:43 * Calinou is in #minecraft o/
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17:43 TheLastProject Maybe /mode +v *@* could work, not sure
17:43 TheLastProject I, at least, can't try it myself :P
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17:44 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP party!
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17:45 Exio4 TheLastProject: it work, mode doesn't support masks unless that is [\+-]bqeI
17:45 TheLastProject Hmm, I see
17:45 Exio4 it won't work **
17:45 Exio4 err
17:45 Calinou O_o so much ops/voices
17:47 Exio4 | TODAY: OP and Voice party!
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17:51 sfan5 yay
17:51 sfan5 ChanServ's gone
17:51 Calinou still don't have my cloak
17:52 sfan5 Having an OP party while ChanServ is gone! \o/
17:52 sfan5 goddamnit
17:52 sfan5 adams.freenode.net changed the topic again
17:52 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice party w/o ChanServ!
17:53 * Mati1 akuku
17:54 Jordach hold on
17:54 Jordach nickserv is alive
17:54 Jordach /whois JamesTait
17:54 Jordach he has a  cloak
17:54 JamesTait Jordach, is it a cloak of invisibility?
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17:54 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP party!
17:55 sfan5 Jordach: if you have a cloak and then the services die you keep the cloak
17:55 ShadowNinja Jordach: Cloaks aren't removed when NickServ dies.
17:55 Exio4 Jordach: /whois Exio4
17:55 Jordach ahh
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17:55 sfan5 goddamnit, it keeps changing the topic
17:55 Jordach :(
17:55 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice party!
17:55 Jordach ChanServ remembers the last topic
17:55 ShadowNinja What is staff doing to services?
17:56 Jordach moving it to a new location as the old on is under a ddos
17:56 ShadowNinja Ah.
17:57 ShadowNinja Why so many links and netsplits?
17:58 Exio4 they need to work on it
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17:59 john_minetest I bet when every freenode user would download a special program, they could DDoS back. So the one who DDoSes freenode gets a DDoS back.
18:00 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice party w/o ChanServ!
18:00 sfan5 now ChanServ auto-removes the "w/o ChanServ" part when it gets back!
18:00 sfan5 WIN
18:02 ShadowNinja LOL.
18:02 Exio4 sfan5 is fighting with chanserv
18:02 sfan5 \o/
18:02 * Jordach rofls
18:02 Jordach * salamanderrake is now known as beaverbeater <- rofl
18:03 sfan5 beaverbeater: rename to "ChanServ"
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18:03 Jordach i cant get over that nick's name
18:03 Exio4 sfan5, can't
18:03 sfan5 meh
18:03 Kacey * ChanServ :Erroneous Nickname
18:03 Exio4 all nicks are protected by the ircd
18:04 Exio4 only available though fake servers or others ircd (like services)
18:04 Calinou inb4 kline
18:04 Calinou or well, zline
18:04 Calinou same thing
18:04 ShadowNinja /RESV *Serv Services
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18:04 kaeza greetings
18:05 kaeza wait...what
18:05 Kacey :-)
18:05 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well.
18:05 Jordach enjoy
18:05 Kacey huh i dont have a cloak...
18:05 Jordach when everything's fixed: my addon should go
18:05 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice parteyyy w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:05 Calinou includes ban evade in #minecraft day too
18:05 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:06 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:06 Calinou these guys must be tired by now
18:07 kaeza :D
18:07 * Kacey has changed the topic to: http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released 0.4.8 to come soon! | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. o/
18:08 Kacey hah!
18:08 sfan5 Kacey: yeah, sure
18:08 Calinou lol 0.4.8 to come soon
18:08 Calinou how about 1.0.0
18:08 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 1.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:08 Jordach trolling MC
18:09 sfan5 lawl
18:09 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 1.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ | See latest Minetest Let's play here: http://www.yo
18:09 Jordach #minetest falls to shit without ChanServ
18:09 kaeza fak
18:09 sfan5 Jordach: *#minecraft
18:09 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 1.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
18:09 Calinou #ubuntu*
18:09 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 1.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:09 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:09 Jordach #mlp*
18:10 Calinou no topic is set in #mlp
18:10 Calinou that channel has 1 user
18:10 Calinou probably a freenode staff
18:10 Jordach or Taoki
18:11 Kacey i want op!
18:11 Kacey http://www.rochelleseltzer.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Today-was-a-good-day.jpg
18:11 sfan5 Jordach: no u
18:12 Jordach no u
18:12 lamefun joined #minetest
18:13 Jordach sfan5, !rev the topic
18:13 sfan5 nah
18:13 sfan5 better do some useful stuff
18:13 sfan5 !b64e http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
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18:13 sfan5 ^ Jordach
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18:16 MinetestBot http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and V
18:16 * Jordach changes the channel radio to AC/DC - Back in Black
18:16 sfan5 meg
18:16 sfan5 *meg
18:16 sfan5 *meh
18:16 * Jordach then turns it upto 11
18:16 kaeza Jordach, fuck yea
18:17 Jordach <- is actually listening to said song on Clementine
18:17 Topic for #minetest is now [base64] aHR0cDovL21pbmV0ZXN0Lm5ldCB8IE5FV1M6IE1pbmV0ZXN0IDAuNC43IHJlbGVhc2VkIHwgUlVM
18:17 Calinou clementine brohoof
18:17 sfan5 damnit
18:17 * kaeza is listening to "Boulevard of Broken Dreams"
18:18 Topic for #minetest is now aHR0cDovL21pbmV0ZXN0Lm5ldCB8IE5FV1M6IE1pbmV0ZXN0IDAuNC43IHJlbGVhc2VkIHwgUlVMRVM6IGJlIHBhdGllbnQsIHJlc3BlY3Qgb3RoZXIgdXNlcnMsIGhlcmUgYW5kIGluIG90aGVyIGNo
18:18 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net | TODAY: OP and Voice rave w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:18 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/1Wt0mnS.png
18:18 Jordach kaeza, turned up to 11
18:19 lamefun !b64e The ONEist Global Government attacks freenode!!!
18:19 MinetestBot VGhlIE9ORWlzdCBHbG9iYWwgR292ZXJubWVudCBhdHRhY2tzIGZyZWVub2RlISEh
18:19 Calinou lol, lamefun is here
18:19 Calinou the guy who got Calinou Skills too
18:19 kaeza /topic WORSHIP LUA!
18:19 Kacey !b64e TROLOL
18:19 MinetestBot VFJPTE9M
18:19 sfan5 lamefun: beware, we still have many ops sitting around unlike other channels
18:19 Topic for #minetest is now Worship LUA. TODAY: OP / Voice Rave! \o/
18:20 Topic for #minetest is now Worship LUA. TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:20 Topic for #minetest is now Worship LUA. TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:20 Calinou Lua not LUA
18:20 kaeza ^
18:20 Calinou poor Taoki is laughing at us right now
18:20 Topic for #minetest is now Worship Lua. TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:20 Jordach i beat sfan5 again.
18:20 sfan5 damnit
18:21 sfan5 you were disturbing me editing
18:21 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | RULES: many | NEWS: 0.4.7 released! | Worship Lua | TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:21 Jordach > RULES: many
18:21 Jordach lol'd at
18:21 Calinou rules: 34
18:21 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | RULES: many | NEWS: 0.4.7 released! | Worship Lua! | TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/
18:22 Jordach we need these days again
18:22 sfan5 yep
18:22 * Jordach considers starting IceCast DJ Rave with Jordach
18:23 Jordach then i'd have to open ports :P
18:23 sfan5 or use my unfinished port over remote server program
18:23 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | RULES: many | NEWS: 0.4.7 released! | Worship Lua! | TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ | Also: Bring-your-kitten-to-work-day!
18:23 Jordach <Boris_Johnson> verrryy niiiceeee
18:24 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | RULES: many | NEWS: 0.4.7 released! | Worship Lua! | TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ | Also: Bring-your-kitten-to-work-day
18:24 Jordach <MinetestBot> kitten overload in MinetestBot.System.Kittens()
18:24 john_minetest You deleted my "!".
18:25 john_minetest This cake is ! a lie.
18:25 Jordach clever
18:25 Jordach but youre wrong
18:25 Jordach != is not
18:26 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | RULES: many | NEWS: 0.4.7 released! | Worship Lua! | TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ | Also: Bring-your-kitten-to-work-day | Bring cakes for the Ops. Delicious cakes, not these ugyl ones from the supermarket.
18:26 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | RULES: many | NEWS: 0.4.7 released! | Worship Lua! | TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ | Also: Bring-your-kitten-to-work-day | Bring cakes for the Ops. Delicious cakes, not these ugly ones from the supermarket.
18:26 kaeza lol ugyl
18:27 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | RULES: many | NEWS: 0.4.7 released! | Worship Lua! | TODAY: OP and Voice Party w/o ChanServ includes no cloak day as well. \o/ | Also: Bring-your-kitten-to-work-day | Bring cakes for the Ops. Delicious cakes, not these ugly ones from the Walmart.
18:27 thexyz I'm surprised no one has disabled "c" by now
18:27 Exio4 hi thexyz
18:27 Jordach AW
18:27 Jordach i wanted RAINBOW RAVE
18:28 sfan5 shouldn't this work...
18:28 sfan5 !sfu celeron*
18:28 MinetestBot celeron55 6Administrator 334 posts, registered on 2011-04-19 | id: 2
18:28 MinetestBot Celeron56 4Banned 1 posts, registered on 2012-08-28 | id: 2834
18:28 sfan5 yep works
18:28 Calinou lol
18:28 Jordach !stfu Calinou
18:28 kaeza YAY
18:28 Calinou !sfu Calinou
18:28 MinetestBot Calinou Moderator 2,018 posts, registered on 2011-08-01 | id: 194
18:28 Calinou dat id
18:28 sfan5 actually, lets keep it
18:28 Jordach !sfu jo*
18:28 MinetestBot Jordach: Too many matches: 50
18:28 Jordach !sfu jor*
18:28 MinetestBot Jordach: Too many matches: 9
18:29 Jordach !sfu jor*
18:29 MinetestBot Jordach: Too many matches: 9
18:29 sfan5 Jordach: one sec
18:29 Jordach !sfu jord*
18:29 Calinou !sfu mmo*
18:29 sfan5 !sfulimit Jordach 9
18:29 MinetestBot mmogoing 4Banned 3 posts, registered on 2013-03-15 | id: 4643
18:29 MinetestBot mmohome 4Banned 3 posts, registered on 2013-02-15 | id: 4313
18:29 MinetestBot Limit set.
18:29 Calinou spammers :D
18:29 sfan5 Jordach: use jor* now
18:29 Jordach !sfu jord*
18:29 MinetestBot Jordach Member 3,221 posts, registered on 2011-10-03 | id: 332
18:29 MinetestBot jordan4ibanez 4Banned 1,812 posts, registered on 2011-09-27 | id: 312
18:29 MinetestBot jordan4ibanez1 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-03-28 | id: 1556
18:29 MinetestBot Jordankae 4Banned 1 posts, registered on 2012-10-29 | id: 3397
18:29 MinetestBot Jordanlw 8New member 4 posts, registered on 2011-12-02 | id: 899
18:29 MinetestBot jordanperks3 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-01-25 | id: 4119
18:29 MinetestBot jordantim 4Banned 1 posts, registered on 2013-05-07 | id: 5500
18:29 sfan5 !sfulimit Jordach reset
18:29 MinetestBot Limit reset.
18:29 Calinou "sfu"?
18:29 Jordach search forum user
18:29 Menche !sfu Likwid*
18:29 MinetestBot Likwid H-Craft Member 1,139 posts, registered on 2013-01-06 | id: 3972
18:29 Kacey !sfu Ka*
18:29 MinetestBot Kacey: Too many matches: 50
18:30 Calinou !sfu jojoa*
18:30 MinetestBot jojoa1997 Member 2,492 posts, registered on 2012-12-13 | id: 3782
18:30 sfan5 !sfu *swag*
18:30 MinetestBot Dope Swag Legion 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-01-19 | id: 4055
18:30 MinetestBot waffleswag2 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2012-10-28 | id: 3389
18:30 MinetestBot whiteboyswag 8New member 6 posts, registered on 2013-02-23 | id: 4395
18:30 MinetestBot yoloswag 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-02-24 | id: 4407
18:30 Kacey !sfu Kac*
18:30 MinetestBot kac-mal767 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-03-29 | id: 4849
18:30 Calinou >2012-12 >2492 posts
18:30 sfan5 ^ :(
18:30 MinetestBot Kacey Member 144 posts, registered on 2012-05-05 | id: 1770
18:30 Jordach <MinetestBot> yoloswag New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-02-24 | id: 4407
18:30 Calinou he has more posts than me but is 1.5 year newer...
18:30 sfan5 !sfu jojoa*
18:30 MinetestBot jojoa1997 Member 2,492 posts, registered on 2012-12-13 | id: 3782
18:30 sfan5 ^ Calinou
18:30 sfan5 oh wait
18:30 kaeza !sfu kae*
18:30 MinetestBot kaeo_ao 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-04-13 | id: 5096
18:30 MinetestBot kaeza Member 1,166 posts, registered on 2012-10-18 | id: 3279
18:30 sfan5 dero
18:30 sfan5 *derp
18:30 Menche !sfu Menche
18:30 MinetestBot Menche Member 911 posts, registered on 2011-07-02 | id: 153
18:30 lamefun http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88706#p88706 --- glad to see that there are other people who tell inconvenient truth
18:30 Jordach i still win on post count
18:30 sfan5 Jordach: meh
18:31 john_minetest !sfu jmf
18:31 MinetestBot jmf Member 160 posts, registered on 2012-11-05 | id: 3464
18:31 * Menche registered almost a year before jojoa but has less than half the posts :(
18:31 Kacey !sfu Dan
18:31 MinetestBot DaN Member 42 posts, registered on 2013-04-06 | id: 4992
18:31 sfan5 conclusion: Jojoa spams
18:31 Kacey !sfu Dan D*
18:31 MinetestBot Dan Duncombe Member 316 posts, registered on 2013-05-09 | id: 5529
18:31 Exio4 !sfu Exio*
18:31 MinetestBot Exio4 8New member 3 posts, registered on 2012-12-23 | id: 3863
18:31 kaeza lol
18:31 Menche Dan Ducombe always top-posts
18:31 sfan5 !sfu *yolo*
18:31 MinetestBot Yolo360 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-05-12 | id: 5579
18:31 MinetestBot yoloswag 8New member 0 posts, registered on 2013-02-24 | id: 4407
18:31 Exio4 yoloswag
18:32 Exio4 seems legit
18:32 sfan5 yeah
18:32 Calinou YOLO
18:32 Jordach looks positively legitimate sir
18:32 Jordach </british>
18:32 john_minetest My only posts are a few in several topics, several on Zegaton server thread and my two mods, [edudrugs] and [sboots].
18:32 sfan5 !kick Calinou no YOLO allowed, rule 38
18:32 Calinou was kicked by MinetestBot: no YOLO allowed, rule 38
18:32 kaeza /join #yolo
18:32 Calinou joined #minetest
18:32 Calinou rule 38?
18:32 Exio4 he meant 34
18:32 Kacey YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:32 Exio4 lol
18:32 sfan5 Exio4: no u
18:32 Exio4 Cal I no u
18:32 Exio4 :D
18:32 sfan5 :D
18:33 Kacey heh everyone spam #yolo
18:33 Exio4 here
18:33 * Exio4 runs
18:33 sfan5 no u
18:33 Jordach next person to say that stupid word gets kicked
18:33 kaeza stupid word
18:33 Menche "that stupid word"
18:33 Kacey that stupid word
18:33 sfan5 kaeza: you forgot the "that"
18:33 kaeza D:
18:33 kaeza was kicked by Exio4: you forgot the "that"!!!!1111!!one!!!
18:33 * Exio4 runs
18:33 sfan5 Exio4: you forgot "eleven"
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18:33 Exio4 lol
18:34 Kacey this channel falls apart without ChanServ because yoloswag
18:34 sfan5 ^
18:34 kaeza fak
18:34 Exio4 u
18:34 kaeza no ops on ##minetest-es D:
18:36 john_minetest 2 ops on #minetest-de :D
18:36 sfan5 john_minetest: three
18:37 Jordach there's a new button on my userlist buttons
18:37 Jordach it's called nolo
18:37 sfan5 noyolo*
18:38 * Jordach hover's over sfan5's nick
18:38 Kacey YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:38 Kacey was kicked by Jordach: NOLO!
18:38 Menche YAY
18:38 Jordach and there it is
18:38 Kacey joined #minetest
18:39 * Calinou plays death animation in #minecraft
18:39 Kacey i made a command to say that
18:40 lamefun http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=88910#p88910
18:40 * kaeza puts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ on Kacey's head
18:40 Jordach lamefun, second infraction with the pulling up of lies
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18:41 Jordach once more and kick
18:41 Jordach then the next three is kickban
18:41 salamanderrake joined #minetest
18:41 * Kacey sings along
18:41 Jordach please enjoy your day.
18:41 * Calinou sings "Freenode Staff"
18:42 Jordach ^ getting on debian's user ignore since 2010
18:42 * kaeza uses Holy Staff of Freenode +5
18:42 Jordach MMO O'CLOCK
18:42 kaeza the troll dies
18:43 * Jordach wields dual swords
18:43 Jordach Fun Fact: I sleep above my machete and have a rifle under the bed
18:43 Jordach with armour piercing rounds
18:43 * Menche gets on his server after a few days and it's griefed to pieces
18:43 Jordach Menche, that's the usual MT server
18:44 kaeza lol machetes are for pussies
18:44 kaeza real men use katanas
18:44 Jordach when i say rifle i mean M16A4
18:44 Calinou G36 master race
18:45 Calinou inb4 someone calls me noob weapon user
18:45 Calinou </urban terror>
18:45 whirm Jordach: I sleep above my bed, you should try it, much more confortable
18:45 Jordach whirm, haha
18:47 lamefun Jordach, are these threads lies?
18:47 Jordach yes
18:47 lamefun *posts
18:47 Kacey the kitten generator is strictly BYOB
18:48 lamefun pathfindings is there?
18:48 Kacey Bring Your Old Bones
18:48 Jordach 4aiman was against the devs
18:48 thexyz now then we don't have ugly +c
18:48 thexyz https://encyclopediadramatica.se/index.php?title=Gay.pl
18:48 Calinou 0,0no +c? let's bet thexyz doesn't read this!
18:49 thexyz Calinou: how's that? I'm not colorblind
18:50 Jordach in other news: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmW3V-OpQPU&amp;feature=youtu.be
18:50 Jordach !title
18:50 MinetestBot Jordach: TheJordach tries a double serving - YouTube
18:50 john_minetest Calinou: Lol, post something in red on green background
18:50 Jordach of super hot chilli sauce.*
18:50 lamefun Jordach, why is he against developers?
18:53 Jordach i've had wasabi before; but i can take hotter
18:56 * Menche is really annoyed at griefers right now
18:56 * ShadowNinja had to make his server interact-on-request.
18:56 Menche if i ever meet a griefer irl there will be blood
18:56 sfan5 ^
18:58 Calinou because the griefer is on his period as you meet him?
18:58 * Calinou runs
18:58 Calinou anyway, gtg
19:05 marktraceur Menche: Yes, but how will you beat them up if you're covered in lava?
19:06 marktraceur Actually I'm fairly sure that real life griefers are just called "muggers"
19:10 john_minetest -You're getting mugged kid! -No, you're getting mugged! -Oh my god, this even works!
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19:20 webdesigner97 I'm having a big problem: My singleplayer map doesn't save anymore :(
19:21 kaeza webdesigner97, permission problems
19:21 Calinou webdesigner97, do you have write permissions to your world directory?
19:21 webdesigner97 it's my desktop. But I'll test it
19:23 webdesigner97 permissions are ok :(
19:23 Calinou did you install any mod recently?
19:24 * Menche 's server says that map saving is disabled
19:24 kaeza I had that happen too
19:24 * Menche can not figure out why
19:24 BrandonReese make sure your env_meta.txt or mapmeta.txt files aren't empty
19:24 Menche it does save... sometimes
19:24 BrandonReese mine quit saving after a crash and one or both of those files were blank, restoring them from backup fixed it
19:25 webdesigner97 hmm, ok. I'll check the files
19:25 Menche i did change the map save interval
19:25 webdesigner97 cause on new worlds it works fine
19:25 webdesigner97 mapmeta.txt is empty
19:26 webdesigner97 what should it look like?
19:26 Menche that's empty on mine too
19:26 BrandonReese in 0.4.7 looks like map_meta.txt contains mapgen parameters
19:26 webdesigner97 w8, I paste from other world :D
19:26 sfan5 webdesigner97: e.g. like this: http://hastebin.com/rukifanula
19:26 pehjota webdesigner97: Would you happen to have a backup of your world somewhere?  Otherwise, do you remember what the seed was?
19:27 webdesigner97 sry, no backup :/
19:27 Menche ?
19:27 PilzAdam sfan5, why are so many people voiced?
19:28 Menche what does that mean?
19:28 sfan5 PilzAdam: "TODAY: OP and Voice Party"
19:28 webdesigner97 it works again :D THX very much
19:28 BrandonReese webdesigner97 I would give what sfan5 pasted a try if you don't have backup
19:28 webdesigner97 that's what I did ;)
19:29 sfan5 webdesigner97: you will get world edges, because your seed is not the same as min
19:29 sfan5 *mine
19:29 webdesigner97 ah, no problem. it's ok
19:29 webdesigner97 I'm not going to travel that much
19:29 pehjota webdesigner97: Newly emerged blocks in your world may not line up with older areas if you don't have the original seed.
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19:30 Menche what is 'voice'?
19:30 Calinou you can do several at once
19:30 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ | WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net
19:30 * Menche just lost it whatever it is :P
19:30 PilzAdam op party is over
19:30 Kacey what? why?
19:30 Calinou /deop name1 name2
19:31 sfan5 PilzAdam: but ChanServ is not back yet
19:31 PilzAdam 6 OPs are enough
19:31 sfan5 1 op would be enough
19:31 PilzAdam not when there is a new netsplit
19:31 sfan5 ..
19:32 sfan5 there is still a netsplit
19:32 Kacey PilzAdam = buzzkill
19:32 pehjota Menche: When a channel has +m, only users with +v can send messages to all other users in the channel.
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19:32 sfan5 ChanServ would have reset all the voice & op statuses and the topic once it returns
19:32 PilzAdam if we are lucky then we can survive 6 more netsplits :-)
19:32 Menche wb ChanServ!
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19:32 Kacey i was just about to break out the pinata
19:33 Menche who wrote the specialties mod?
19:33 Menche it made 7890 files in my world folder
19:34 Exio4 PilzAdam: was i that bad as op? :(
19:34 Exio4 ;P
19:34 sfan5 Exio4: no
19:34 sfan5 ;P
19:34 Menche each file contains a single number
19:34 PilzAdam Exio4, ask ChanServ :-p
19:34 Exio4 inb4 you are worse than what you might think
19:34 * Menche thinks there has to have been a better way of doing that
19:34 ShadowNinja The 'NEWS' isn't really news anymore...
19:35 sfan5 more like 'OLDS' </shittyjoke>
19:35 Exio4 redditjoke*
19:36 Calinou redditjoke?
19:36 Calinou karma pls
19:36 Calinou that's the joke
19:36 Exio4 lol?
19:37 Menche there goes ChanServ
19:37 Calinou (DVD) RIP ChanServ
19:37 Menche that sounds like it was important
19:43 ShadowNinja wb ChanServ, bye ChanServ, wb ChanServ, bye Chanserv...
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19:55 ShadowNinja Menche: Or at least use a subfolder...
20:00 Guest99433 guest master race
20:00 Guest31024 stupid nickserv
20:00 john_minetest Why have I been de-op'd?
20:01 NakedFury no idea
20:01 Calinou_ op party is over
20:01 sfan5 john_minetest: PilzAdam decided tha party is over
20:01 marktraceur john_minetest: Maybe you haven't and services are down, just a guess
20:01 kaeza_ because PilzAdam
20:01 marktraceur Oh, fine.
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20:06 NekoGloop well that took long enough, freenode.
20:07 NekoGloop only an hour to join :P
20:07 Jordach PilzAdam, in britain, cunt is used when asshole isnt enough
20:07 Jordach for this case, it is
20:08 Calinou_ in soviet britain, bad words use Jordach
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20:28 Arkmabat Is the actual source code in the cmake folder?
20:28 VanessaE it's in minetestfolder/src
20:29 Arkmabat With the usual windows download?
20:29 VanessaE dunno about windows
20:29 VanessaE but getting the sources is easy if you need them
20:29 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest
20:29 VanessaE ("Download ZIP" on the right if you can't git clone)
20:30 Arkmabat Cool, thanks.
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20:30 VanessaE no prob.
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20:30 VanessaE Arkmabat: also, you'll want minetest_game:  https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/
20:30 VanessaE (the actual game content)
20:31 Arkmabat Which would show rendering blocks logic
20:32 sfan5 the core game renders the blocks (minetest/minetest)
20:33 VanessaE s/core game/engine/
20:34 VanessaE the game content just defines what they look like and on a coarse-grained level, what their shapes are.
20:34 Arkmabat Cool, thanks. I know a little about programming but theres a big jump it seems that I havent made in order to write a game. I'm comfortable with a writing a number guessing game in basic lol
20:35 VanessaE writing a game is really as simple as writing a mod - you just need more core
20:35 VanessaE code*
20:35 VanessaE a game is just a collection of mods, often based on stuff from minetest_game
20:37 Arkmabat Don't know much abouut irrlicht but it seems popular for 3d game rendering
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20:39 Arkmabat Thanks again, i'll get to studying
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20:43 Calinou fuf
20:45 sfan5 good night
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21:15 oxenfreedan whats todays topic java?
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21:15 NekoGloop Hello lamefun.
21:16 PilzAdam oxenfreedan, today was OP party, but its already over
21:16 oxenfreedan whats op party?
21:16 NekoGloop op'ing everyone in the channel it looks.
21:17 NekoGloop or lots of people
21:17 NekoGloop idk, I probably missed it
21:17 PilzAdam we had 16 OPs IIRC
21:21 lamefun Disappearing and re-appearning blocks are annoying :( Does Minecraft have some proprietary magic to get rid of it or is it plagued by the same thing?
21:22 PilzAdam lamefun, have you turned off anti-cheat?
21:23 lamefun How can I turn anti-cheat off on someone else's server?
21:23 PilzAdam tell the server admin to do so, if he doesnt then dont play on the server
21:24 lamefun I know.
21:24 PilzAdam or you can try to fix / implement better anti-cheat in the core
21:27 VanessaE more irritating than blocks dis/reappearing is getting lag-teleported backwards.  sometimes happens even at walking speed if the server's lagged enoughj.
21:27 VanessaE -j
21:28 VanessaE (which is why anti-cheat is disabled on my server)
21:28 PilzAdam VanessaE, close it: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=99058#p99058
21:28 VanessaE closed.
21:29 PilzAdam PM From: qweeqe; Subject: <Empty>; Text: "How do I do mods on minetest"
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21:30 hashpoundnumber could anyone please let me know how the object of the game is different in multiplayer mode?
21:31 hashpoundnumber i've already searched all of the wiki and read most of the wiki
21:31 VanessaE multiplayer just means you play on someone else's server
21:31 PilzAdam what do you mean by "object of the game"?
21:31 VanessaE the "object of the game" depends on the server and that game mode it runs
21:32 VanessaE PilzAdam: he means the ultimate goal of the game
21:32 hashpoundnumber VanessaE, what types of things are the object of the game, typically?
21:33 VanessaE hashpoundnumber: some servers, the object is to survive in a player-versus-player environment (think Quake and the like).  Others the point is to build whatever you can imagine.
21:33 PilzAdam hashpoundnumber, multiplayer is almost the same as singleplayer; there are just more people
21:33 VanessaE hashpoundnumber: it's a question that can only be answered by the admin and maybe some players of the server you're thinking of playing on
21:35 hashpoundnumber thanks
21:35 PilzAdam hashpoundnumber, every heard of "Minecraft"?
21:35 PilzAdam -y
21:36 hashpoundnumber PilzAdam, yes but i;ve never played it before
21:36 PilzAdam its pretty much the same there
21:36 PilzAdam people set up servers, and define their own rules
21:36 PilzAdam but the game itself doesnt have any rules
21:37 hashpoundnumber so what would you gain in a PvP game if you beat another player?
21:37 VanessaE hashpoundnumber: depends on the game - usually nothing.
21:37 VanessaE you can get the player's stuff after a while
21:38 VanessaE (bones)
21:38 VanessaE PilzAdam: 20 minutes, wasn't it?
21:38 hashpoundnumber what was it that attracted you all to this game?
21:38 PilzAdam VanessaE, if its PvP server then I would set it to 0 if I would be the admin
21:38 PilzAdam hashpoundnumber, the Lua API
21:39 PilzAdam I code and dont play it
21:39 hashpoundnumber lua api?
21:39 VanessaE hashpoundnumber: originally I wanted to play around with something like redstone.  found minetest + mesecons.
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21:40 hashpoundnumber VanessaE, im sorry i dont know what you're talking about
21:40 PilzAdam hashpoundnumber, an Aplication Programming Interface wich allows Lua scripts to run as mods on the server
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21:40 PilzAdam they define game content, like nodes, items, crafting recipes etc.
21:40 VanessaE hashpoundnumber: redstone is a feature of Minecraft that lets you build electronic circuits.  Mesecons is a mod for Minetest that performs the same function.
21:41 hashpoundnumber so the object of the game seems to be to build cool stuff and socialize. is this the same with minecraft or does it have other features that make the gameplay more exciting?
21:41 * Taoki wonders when RBA will be back on IRC... haven't seen him in a few days
21:42 VanessaE hashpoundnumber: minecraft has a totally different objective..  Look up Enderdragon.
21:42 VanessaE but on the way toward that objective, yeah build, dig, socialize, maybe fight.
21:43 VanessaE Taoki: his internet access is via a cell phone, which he said has a very limited bandwidth cap which, one exceeded, leaves him without any internet access at all.
21:43 VanessaE s/one/once/
21:43 PilzAdam hashpoundnumber, you dont need to build, you can also walk arround and look at the landscape, or go into caves and search rare ores; YOU set your OWN rules
21:43 Taoki ahh...
21:43 VanessaE he may be playing it safe and trying to stretch it out some
21:44 VanessaE Taoki: he tethers his cell phone to his PC for the purpose (ew.)
21:44 Taoki Why / when can he get real net?
21:45 VanessaE he said it'll be some measure of several days before his "real" ISP of choice can hook him up, but at the rate it's going, it feels more like a measure of weeks :-/
21:46 VanessaE (they originally claimed a timeframe that would have had him back up like two weeks ago)
21:46 PilzAdam or hes not interested in Minetest anymore....
21:46 VanessaE PilzAdam: trust me, he's quite interested, at least in the engine.
21:46 PilzAdam maybe he got a GF ;-)
21:46 VanessaE (minetest_game is a wholly different issue)
21:46 VanessaE heh
21:47 kaeza he got a Guardian Force?
21:47 PilzAdam the last time I saw from him was something like "got a date, bye"
21:47 lamefun PilzAdam, you code but don't play? O_o
21:48 PilzAdam well, I play a bit, like 2-3 hours a week
21:48 kaeza he doesn't play because he gets pwned by the noobest of noobs
21:48 PilzAdam ehm... yes... in singleplayer
21:49 hashpoundnumber ok so does minecraft have an actual PvP environment?
21:49 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_300510009.jpg <-- from my server
21:50 PilzAdam kaeza, oh, that one, I was building a stair to the flying castle, but lag killed me
21:50 kaeza yeah, "lag" :P
21:51 kaeza (actually, yes, it was laggy :/)
21:51 PilzAdam note to self: disable client side prediction if you build a hight stair
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21:55 PilzAdam if anyone is bored and thinks that minetest_game is boring, try this: https://github.com/PilzAdam/pilztest
21:55 PilzAdam ideas are welcome
21:58 NekoGloop Why set stack_max to 20 on every single entry
21:58 NekoGloop can't you override the standard settings.
21:59 PilzAdam no
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21:59 NekoGloop where are the standard settings, even...
22:00 PilzAdam builtin/item.lua
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22:00 NekoGloop Erm, can't you just alter the table's entry?
22:02 PilzAdam not in a mod, no
22:03 PilzAdam you cant rely on the mod load order, so it wont apply to all items
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22:05 VanessaE you can override standard settings and rely on mod load order if you use optdepends.
22:06 VanessaE (provided that which you want to override can be overridden at all)
22:07 NekoGloop PilzAdam, "base" should load first anyway...
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22:57 Kacey back
22:58 kaeza forward
22:58 kaeza oops :)
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23:17 LazyJ Howdy, all. Is there a way to search specific minetest.net forum threads from within minetest.net forums?
23:18 VanessaE use google for that.   site:forum.minetest.net your keywords here
23:18 PilzAdam yes, click on "search"
23:18 VanessaE bbl
23:18 PilzAdam google is evil, dont use it
23:19 LazyJ The "search"  searches forums, but I was hoping to be able to search within a specific, long, thread.
23:19 ShadowNinja The forum search isn't even remotely usefull.
23:19 kaeza ^
23:19 ShadowNinja There was a module installed that had advanced search features like that, but it is no more.
23:19 PilzAdam well, of course you have to use the "advanced search" and switch to "show as topics"
23:19 LazyJ What I'm looking for is information on how to prevent items from showing in RBA's Unified Inventory.
23:20 PilzAdam add the groups not_in_creative_inventory=1 to the item
23:20 PilzAdam -s
23:20 ShadowNinja LazyJ: groups = {not_in_creative_inventory = 1}
23:21 LazyJ Ok, thanks. ;)
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23:27 ShadowNinja Mesecons re-added to my server. Hopefully they don't start eating CPU again...
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23:36 kaeza is there a legit way of obtaining black dye in vanilla minetest_game?
23:37 john_minetest Eating CPU... So it likes chips? Maybe you should server fish... :D
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23:40 PilzAdam kaeza, yes, there is
23:41 PilzAdam but its not easy ;-)
23:41 kaeza how?
23:41 kaeza I tried getting every legit item from the inventory
23:41 kaeza all I'm missing is black wool and dye :/
23:42 PilzAdam I cant remember, but I know it is possible
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23:44 NekoGloop there isn't a black flower, is there?
23:45 ShadowNinja Yay, more greifes: http://imgur.com/2UAYVIK
23:45 NekoGloop It's an art.
23:45 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, try not baning them but just teleport them to 30000,10,30000
23:46 PilzAdam (revoke fly and fast, of course)
23:46 ShadowNinja That won't work if they have a travelnet with them.
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23:51 ShadowNinja Oh, and rollback is giving me multiple greifer names...
23:51 kaeza grepping shows that only thing in group basecolor_black are the black wool and dye
23:51 kaeza so I need black dye to make black dye O.o
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