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00:01 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix header not beeing shown except on singleplayer tab eedb29346e 2013-07-08T16:58:28-07:00 http://git.io/ohG23Q
00:01 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix serverlist not beeing escaped correctly 39d03148e5 2013-07-08T16:58:17-07:00 http://git.io/ABqdYw
00:01 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: fix crash on play/start with empty world list f419f66546 2013-07-08T16:58:03-07:00 http://git.io/Q5jAQQ
00:05 NekoGloop commitspam
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00:22 MinetestBot GIT: kwolekr commited to minetest/minetest: Revert "Fix serverlist not beeing escaped correctly" e1a13608d8 2013-07-08T17:21:09-07:00 http://git.io/7And0A
00:39 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OrEkYyW_-I
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01:01 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Dont play digging sound if not digging c8bd2ae11c 2013-07-08T17:42:05-07:00 http://git.io/i6_Xtw
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01:20 sokomine players keep asking for "fraction" servers. does anyone of you know of such a server?
01:20 sokomine it is not a matter that intrests me much. it would just be nice to point these players to a server that is more to their liking
01:23 NekoGloop faction*
01:26 PilzAdam bye
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03:17 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7628448000/hE672949C/
03:46 hmmmm brogramming:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi_AAqi0RZM
03:55 bas080 Working on a new game for minetest... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/419967/Screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2007092013%20-%2005%3A54%3A16%20AM.png
03:55 bas080 Minimal meets ocd
03:56 * VanessaE peeks in
03:56 VanessaE hi.
03:56 bas080 Hey VanessaE
03:56 VanessaE hey, long time since I seen you chatting here :)
03:57 VanessaE bas080: you know, that doesn't look half-bad for an ultra-low-rez texture pack
03:57 bas080 true, i am here less frequently
03:57 bas080 Also made some changes to some nodes and crafts.
03:57 bas080 ty VanessaE
03:58 VanessaE hope your game mode does well.
03:59 bas080 I'm enjoying it so it's doin good already
03:59 bas080 i look forward to sharing it
03:59 VanessaE I should think about officially releasing my game soon as well (hmmmm:  I'm kinda waiting for that 4096 limit to be lifted before I do, so I don't have to field any support issues related to it)
04:00 bas080 What is the essence of you game?
04:00 bas080 your*
04:00 hmmmm a lot of mods
04:00 VanessaE bas080: creative build whatever you can possibly imagine
04:00 hmmmm thought the limit was raised already
04:00 VanessaE hmmmm: well, yeah that too :P
04:00 bas080 The one on the sever with high res
04:00 hmmmm there was a pull request for that
04:01 VanessaE hmmmm: not afaik, unless you guys decided to go ahead and do it - you said you wanted to work out all the technical issues that lead to this need first before you raised it to 64k
04:01 hmmmm which is done, yes
04:01 VanessaE s/lead/led/
04:01 VanessaE oh ok
04:01 VanessaE I missed a step.  buried under real life crap last few days :-/
04:03 VanessaE hmmmm: from a quick check, I see no pull request nor any recent commits for that  (note that this is NOT a request to fix it right now, just an observation)
04:04 VanessaE as an aside, I like the idea of PR #583.  Always found that feature (bound to middle mouse button) useful in OpenArena.
04:06 hmmmm weird you're right, i can't find it
04:06 hmmmm what happened
04:06 VanessaE dunno, I think kahrl had meant to change it but didn't get a chance, things were pretty busy that day.
04:14 * VanessaE imagines firearms + other "throwing/shooting" + mobs mods installed, and a map designed for the purpose, to make a game tailored to look like Quake et.al
04:18 bas080 I like your imagination.
04:29 VanessaE jeez, no one on my server today :(
04:30 VanessaE hell only 14 in total among all the servers on the list for that matter
04:30 VanessaE where is everyone?
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04:39 NekoGloop sleeping
04:39 VanessaE figures.
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05:14 kaeza sleep? what is that :P
05:15 kaeza ah
05:15 kaeza "man sleep" clarified a lot
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05:26 VanessaE my copy of sleep is out of date
05:26 VanessaE still only allows small measures of seconds :)
05:33 kaeza heh
05:33 kaeza maybe your OS is too old
05:33 * kaeza hides
05:33 VanessaE well it is getting up there, nearly 40 years now
05:33 VanessaE anyone know where I can get it updated? :)
05:34 VanessaE the nitwit who built the main control unit used defective memory and the cooling system is horribly inefficient also
05:35 kaeza some say that the "Exercise" installers work
05:35 VanessaE yeah but that one stresses other resources to the point of breakage too
05:35 kaeza good point
05:36 kaeza also, not installing bloated software like Cake 2.0 and Pizza 1.5.2 helps
05:36 VanessaE true
05:37 kaeza (I heard Taco 3.5 is very buggy and may cause core dumps)
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05:37 VanessaE protein 20.11 seems to handle the main issues well enough anyway.  it's slowly clearing out the boat
05:37 VanessaE bloat*
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07:19 VanessaE bbl
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07:56 * Zeg9 got working wield light for minetest
08:12 VanessaE Zeg9: cool.
08:16 Zeg9 For anyone interested: https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest/tree/wieldlight
08:17 VanessaE does it work better than the one in technic?
08:19 Zeg9 Way better
08:19 Zeg9 VanessaE: it is client side
08:19 VanessaE sweet
08:23 kaeza awesomesauce
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08:34 VanessaE bbl, time to try to sleep...again
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08:48 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Sugar Cookie Day! :-D
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09:02 kaeza Zeg9, is it normal that it lights up *everything*?
09:03 Zeg9 what do you mean by everything?
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09:04 kaeza Zeg9, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_3265987332.jpg
09:04 Zeg9 kaeza: have you recompiled minetest?
09:04 kaeza that is a clean compile from your tree
09:05 Zeg9 hmm
09:05 kaeza oh wait
09:06 kaeza hmm nope.. it's the correct tree
09:06 Zeg9 is there any error?
09:06 Zeg9 (now I understand the pain it can be to make shaders)
09:07 kaeza only thing I have is this: "06:00:34: ERROR[main]: generate_shader(): failed to generate "bumpmaps_solids", addHighLevelShaderMaterial failed."
09:07 Zeg9 That is from bumpmaps, I have the same error but it has nothing to do with my change :/
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09:08 Zeg9 Can you screenshot when you don't hold the torch?
09:08 kaeza figured
09:08 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_3265990607.jpg
09:09 Zeg9 kaeza: can you try with LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1
09:10 kaeza ah
09:10 kaeza it works in sw mode
09:11 kaeza yey 5 FPS :/
09:11 Zeg9 heh I have 20 FPS in 1080p in SW mode :D
09:12 kaeza ZOMG
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09:13 Zeg9 kaeza: sadly I have no idea how to fix it !§
09:13 Zeg9 -!§ +:/
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09:13 kaeza Zeg9, the effect is the same in SW mode, except weaker
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09:15 kaeza (i.e. torches still light up to 20 nodes away
09:15 kaeza )
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09:18 Zeg9 kaeza: does the fog work for you?
09:18 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-07-09%2006%3A16%3A01.jpg
09:18 kaeza ^ with torch
09:18 kaeza without: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-07-09%2006%3A15%3A51.jpg
09:18 kaeza yes, fog works
09:19 Zeg9 the first screenshot is actually what you should see
09:19 Exio le dije que no me gusta 678, me miro de reojo y me acuso de ser la corpo ~
09:19 Exio hi :P
09:19 Calinou dat minimal
09:19 Zeg9 Hello
09:19 kaeza hai Exio
09:22 Exio how do i enable that gl_software mode? LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 didn't work :(
09:23 Zeg9 How can you be sure it didn't work ? :p
09:23 Zeg9 maybe you have a great CPU
09:23 Exio i get the same FPSs as always
09:23 Exio and my singlethread performance is shit
09:23 Exio (fx 6100)
09:24 kaeza Exio, the rendering occurs in a different thread than the game AFAIK
09:25 kaeza {{cn}}
09:25 Zeg9 Exio: could you try my changes if you got time ? :p
09:26 Exio sure, the wieldlight shader?
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09:28 Exio kaeza: http://dpaste.com/1292387/
09:28 Exio supamultithreading
09:29 Zeg9 Exio, yep
09:32 Calinou <Exio> how do i enable that gl_software mode? LIBGL_ALWAYS_SOFTWARE=1 didn't work :(
09:33 Exio inb4 nvidia doesn't support it
09:33 Calinou 158 1 fps-loving peoples in this channel, 442 more until leilol adds normal maps to openarena
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09:37 * Zeg9 could add slippery to minetest
09:37 Calinou +1
09:37 Calinou add a way to make slippery nodes
09:38 Zeg9 I already have the code for sliding items, but not players yet
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09:49 Exio that looks nice Zeg9
09:49 Zeg9 thanks
09:49 Exio but it lights more when it is in your hand, or what? ;P
09:51 Exio but the thing of having a small "line" of light makes it look nice :P
09:51 Exio s/k/&s/
09:54 kaeza oh god http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98799#p98799
09:54 kaeza we need an achievements plugin in the forum
09:54 Exio lol..
09:55 kaeza I would give this one the "Take noobness to a next level" achievement
09:56 Zeg9 ah, that fail in sliding: the items were bouncing...
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11:02 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98812#p98812
11:02 Calinou "im freaking confused, sorry im 14 but im confused."
11:02 Calinou lol
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11:21 Zeg9 Calinou: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/817
11:22 Zeg9 Slippery^
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11:30 Calinou slippery is a bool?
11:31 * Calinou facepalm
11:31 Calinou add ways to actually control friction and accel, then it will be useful...
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11:47 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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12:20 Taoki lol... I think the voxel manipulator is the most confuisng (and confusinbgly documented function)
12:20 Taoki There are no examples and none of the methods make sense
12:20 Taoki minetest.read_from_map crashes the engine
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12:28 Taoki local vm = VoxelManip():read_from_map(pos_start, pos_end)
12:28 Taoki local data = vm:get_data()
12:29 Taoki W(hy)TF does this crash Minetest? In PilzAdam's nether mod that's how get_data is used
12:29 kaeza are you sure the passed positions are actual positions?
12:29 kaeza (i.e. not nil)
12:29 Taoki sure, they're vector positions
12:29 Taoki Tables with an x, y and z
12:30 Taoki Like all positions in Lua
12:30 Taoki "attempt to call field 'get_data' (a nil value)" - lol wut? It is documented even
12:30 kaeza can you provide more context?
12:31 kaeza ah
12:31 Taoki Using either : or . causes the same thing
12:32 kaeza ...
12:33 Taoki ?
12:33 kaeza [09:28:12] <Taoki> local vm = VoxelManip():read_from_map(pos_start, pos_end)
12:33 Taoki Like I said, there are no examples and documantation is dull in explaining usage. No idea what is wrong in that
12:34 kaeza you are returning wrong object
12:34 Taoki (the nether mod doesn't use read_from_map)
12:34 Taoki What's the correct way?
12:34 kaeza you are assigning the result from read_from_map() to "vm"
12:34 kaeza vm should be the VoxelManip object
12:35 kaeza so "local vm = VoxelManip()"
12:35 Taoki ok. Then I run read_from_map on top of that, then get_data on top of that result?
12:35 kaeza ...no
12:35 kaeza get_data is a method of VoxelManip
12:35 kaeza (as well as read_from_map)
12:36 Taoki so I do vm.get_data?
12:36 kaeza I'm not very vamiliar with VM, but I assume read_from_map() is used to "emerge" the blocks
12:37 kaeza to get actual node data you use get_data()
12:37 Taoki You said it's a method of voxelmanip though. So hoiw do I call it? I just write get_data() or vm.get_data()?\
12:38 * Taoki is familiar with the Lua API but doesn't understand thos whole mixup
12:38 kaeza so "local vm = VoxelManip(); vm:read_from_map(minp, maxp); local data = vm:get_data()
12:38 Taoki Ahh, that way. Thanks, will try it out
12:39 Taoki I understand what it does now. read_drom_map doesn't return anything, just sets the VM I spawned
12:39 kaeza it actually returns some values
12:39 kaeza https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1653
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12:40 kaeza (not sure if those actual values should be used when accessing data[] though)
12:42 kaeza still working on your villages I see
12:42 kaeza that would be a great addition
12:43 Taoki Yes, improving the clear function. They already use schematics as of yesterday, now that hmmm fixed the facedirs
12:45 Taoki Strange though. Even after I do vm:read_from_map(pos_start, pos_end), the VM affects blocks outside of this range
12:45 Taoki As in, not in the box specified by pos_start and pos_end
12:45 Taoki I need it to clear everything in this area (set it to air). Just a sec actually...
12:45 kaeza ah then the return values of read_from_map() are used I guess :P
12:46 Taoki http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Anpnb5EG What's wrong in this? And why does it clear outside of the given function instead?
12:47 kaeza think of it like this: you pass the area you want to modify to read_from_map(), and it returns *whole mapblocks*
12:47 kaeza so you must "offset" your positions into the data[] array
12:49 Taoki But I already give the area to the read_from_map function. What's it used for if it still returns anything else?
12:50 kaeza ah I see
12:50 kaeza your code is setting *every element* in the data[] array to air
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12:51 Taoki Sure. But I thought the data array only contains what I set from read_from_map
12:51 kaeza the problem is, data contains the whole mapblocks (not just the area you want to modify)
12:52 Taoki Yeah... it's a problem then. How to loop only through the elements in that range
12:52 Taoki Instead of for i, d in ipairs(data) do
12:54 Taoki Ah no... I probably can't limit the loop. Instead I think I need to filter the positions themselves
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12:55 kaeza Taoki, http://pastebin.com/KVgch3Ny
12:55 kaeza something like that should work
12:56 Taoki Ahh, ok. Thanks!
12:57 kaeza np
12:58 kaeza this whole thing is a bit weird because it was coded for speed
12:58 sfan5 hi everyone
12:58 kaeza hey sfan
12:58 Taoki kaeza: Same issue though, everything disappears :(
13:00 kaeza everything?
13:00 kaeza not just a same sized misplaced cube?
13:00 Taoki kaeza: A large area outside of the desired min and max pos
13:00 Taoki yes, same
13:00 Taoki misplaced cube indeed
13:01 kaeza try with: local va = VoxelArea:new{MinEdge=pos_start, MaxEdge=pos_end}
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13:02 Taoki same
13:02 kaeza :/
13:02 Taoki Though it only seems to happen after I place a new block
13:03 kaeza no idea here, sorry
13:04 Taoki The voxelmanip might be broken, will askk hmmm
13:04 kaeza ah
13:04 kaeza https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1660
13:05 kaeza maybe you need to call that
13:05 Taoki adding that too
13:05 Taoki Yes, that only makes the breakage more visible :P
13:05 kaeza add also calc_lighting()
13:05 kaeza O.o
13:07 Taoki So the cutting cube clearly goes out of bounds. Seemingly it erases all noteblocks touching that area instead of all nodes touching that area
13:08 kaeza is the cube the expected size?
13:08 Taoki *nodeblocks
13:08 Taoki I know the exact coordinates, so I know for sure where it should cut and that it cuts more
13:08 kaeza hrm
13:08 kaeza you should wait for hmmmm then
13:09 kaeza I have no effing idea how this thing works :/
13:09 kaeza just pure guess work
13:11 kaeza offtopic: not sure if trolling or *THAT* stupid: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98824#p98824
13:11 Exio ni con el 54% de mi corazon ~
13:11 Exio hi
13:11 Taoki hehe
13:11 Calinou kaeza: I bet "*THAT* stupid"
13:11 Calinou this is one of the downsides of windows 8)
13:12 Exio wtf
13:12 kaeza hehe
13:12 Exio is that real
13:12 Exio or i can't read
13:12 Exio and he tries to say something different
13:12 NekoGloop and also using notepad
13:12 kaeza awwwww Exio está enamorado <3
13:13 Exio kaeza, de una chica K
13:14 Taoki kaeza: Hah! Even when I disable " = air" it still erases it. Very weird
13:14 Taoki Most likely the write_to_map function is breaking somewhere
13:14 kaeza wut
13:14 kaeza hmm
13:14 Exio what about placing content_ignore
13:14 Taoki data[i] = air -- That's not the one causing it it appears
13:15 Taoki Even if I commenbt out the for loops and everything in them, the result is same
13:17 kaeza weird O.o
13:17 Taoki http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=j61ytqyC This code alone can do it
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13:18 kaeza that code clears the map too?
13:19 kaeza hmm
13:19 Taoki An incorrect cube
13:19 Taoki Though it's not set to even clear or modify anything
13:20 Exio http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=j61ytqyC
13:20 Exio wtf is that
13:20 Exio Taoki: any short-test-case that works and i can try in-game about what isn't working?
13:20 Taoki HAH... even just those 3 lines:
13:20 Taoki local vm = VoxelManip()
13:20 Taoki vm:write_to_map()
13:20 Taoki vm:update_map()
13:20 Taoki Exio: ^
13:20 kaeza Taoki, -.-
13:20 Exio working mod
13:20 Exio that isn't a working mod
13:20 Taoki kaeza: ?
13:21 Taoki Exio: Not yet, sorry. It's part of a larger code
13:21 Exio well, what mod is it?
13:21 kaeza those 3 lines don't set any data at all :P
13:21 Taoki oh?
13:21 Taoki What's wrong with them?
13:22 Exio Taoki: from where do you load the map
13:22 Exio i don't get that
13:22 Taoki load the map?
13:23 Exio or what are you doing?
13:23 Taoki Exio: Trying to use the voxel manipulator to clear an area between two corners (set every node there to air)
13:23 Taoki Apparenytly a collosal task due to the complexity of voxelmanip :P
13:24 Exio what code are you suing?
13:24 Exio using
13:24 PilzAdam Taoki, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5957302
13:24 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98817#p98817
13:24 Calinou "So if it was possible to make a perfect one, such would have surely existed already." dat assumption
13:24 Calinou what if the same thing happened to linux 8D
13:24 Calinou fact, people have and need an ego
13:24 kaeza LOL https://github.com/PilzAdam/nether/commit/bad0d53bdba3b59fde3fab3f231ff62f89fe689c
13:25 kaeza (note how even the commit ID says PilzAdam is bad)
13:25 Taoki Calinou: PilzAdam (simple mobs) and sfan5(mob framework) are good devs. If they couldn't make a good mob system (assuming it would be easy), that would be really weird. Don't doubt they tried the best
13:25 Exio sfan5
13:25 Exio wtf
13:26 Calinou people never unite to make an unified standard
13:26 PilzAdam sapier made mobf...
13:26 Calinou sad fact of life
13:26 Calinou look at linux distros
13:26 Taoki sapier yes
13:26 PilzAdam Taoki, seen that gist? does it help?
13:26 Taoki PilzAdam: And thanks, will try your version. But not right now, need to run for a bit
13:26 Taoki Trying it soon
13:26 Taoki Calinou: Linux distros are pretty good ^^
13:27 Exio 500 distros around
13:27 Calinou none of them are perfect, some make better compromises than others.
13:27 Exio different "users"
13:27 Taoki Calinou: That is true
13:27 Calinou even by looking at FOSS in general, most people still critisize GIMP and libreoffice and this makes us suffer. (incompatible formats)
13:27 Taoki Exio: If we think of ALL of them, yeah about that. Only a few are truly popular and used at worldwide level though
13:28 Taoki Calinou: Sadder fact of life: People often fight over which distro is better and "which sucks" than being happy something as nice as Linux exists at all and you can choose what you find best :)
13:28 Exio debian, gentoo, ubuntu, fedora, harshlinux, opensuse, centos, linux mint and i can't more right now :P
13:28 Calinou harsh linux :-D
13:28 Exio small distros like puppy and slitaz
13:29 kaeza Puppy :-D
13:29 Taoki Exio: Yeah, those are most popular. Except harshlinux which i never heard of till now
13:29 Exio archlinux
13:29 harrison siduction 4lyfe
13:29 Exio lol
13:29 Calinou it's my pun on arch linux
13:29 harrison siduction is the best linux
13:29 Taoki For me (again, for me) openSUSE is by far the best distro
13:29 Exio debian sid
13:29 Exio for me debian+gentoo :P
13:29 Taoki Anyway I need to go now, BBL
13:30 PilzAdam distro war? Kubuntu FTW!
13:30 Exio i missed slackware in the list
13:30 harrison do not go gentoo into that good night
13:30 Exio i should die now
13:30 Calinou bye Taoki
13:30 Taoki Yay, someone else that likes KDE :)
13:30 kaeza obligatory: http://xkcd.com/927/
13:30 Calinou xubuntu is best pony, personally
13:30 harrison see what i did there?
13:30 Calinou kaeza: haha
13:30 Exio i like KDE too ;P
13:30 Exio and bye Taoki
13:30 Calinou never used KDE
13:31 Calinou xfce is very fast and customisable
13:31 PilzAdam KDE is for people with computers that can run it
13:31 Exio KDE is gentoo is amazin-ly fast
13:31 Exio s/is/in/
13:32 kaeza and the n0085 keep coming: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98829#p98829
13:32 Calinou 80085*
13:32 Calinou kaeza: that is actually a valid question
13:33 kaeza 80386*
13:33 Calinou it's understandable, not everyone wants to play as "singleplayer"
13:33 kaeza well, yeah, in some sense
13:34 kaeza hmm
13:34 Exio noisettes ftw
13:35 Exio http://cocinachic.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/papas-noisette.jpg
13:39 kahrl would a VoxelArea:iter and VoxelArea:iterp be useful? https://gist.github.com/kahrl/5957422
13:39 kahrl you give it a minimum and maximum position and it returns an iterator over the indices between those positions
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13:41 PilzAdam kahrl, yes
13:41 PilzAdam also VoxelArea:position(index) that returns the absolute position
13:53 PilzAdam kahrl, https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5957518
13:55 kahrl yep, works
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13:55 PilzAdam doesnt work if x=MaxEdge.x
13:56 kahrl seems to work here... LuaJIT difference?
13:57 PilzAdam https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5957550
13:57 PilzAdam this fails
13:57 PilzAdam p.x is -11
13:58 PilzAdam and z is 41
13:58 PilzAdam *p.z
13:58 PilzAdam and p.y is -20
13:59 kahrl ok, I get that too now
14:00 kahrl perhaps try https://gist.github.com/kahrl/5957571
14:00 kahrl it does strange math but it seems to work in this particular case
14:01 kahrl oh, I think the problem with your version is that the 1 is subtracted too late
14:02 PilzAdam your version works
14:03 kaeza bored: http://pastebin.com/7cijcnQe
14:03 kaeza Calinou, ^
14:03 kahrl this works too: https://gist.github.com/kahrl/5957593
14:03 PilzAdam yea, that makes sense
14:04 PilzAdam so, what version do we pick now? :-)
14:04 Calinou nice
14:04 Taoki PilzAdam: Back and tested your code. Oddly enough, same issue with that too. This is really weird
14:05 kaeza Calinou, license is WTFPL... if you want to add it to maptools, I won't complain :>
14:05 Taoki https://gist.github.com/PilzAdam/5957302
14:05 Calinou ok, but have to go for now
14:08 PilzAdam Taoki, "same issue"?
14:08 Taoki PilzAdam: Instead of only filling the area between pos1 and pos2, it cuts areas outside of that zone
14:08 PilzAdam yes, because p1 and pos1 differ
14:09 kahrl PilzAdam: does MinetestBot roll dice? I can't find it :)
14:09 PilzAdam the engine gives you an different area, where the requested one is only a part of it
14:09 * Taoki head hurts
14:09 PilzAdam kahrl, if you say "Hi Minetestbot", it will pick "hi", hello" or "hey"
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14:10 Taoki Ok, so how do I change that loop to only cut what's in that area?
14:10 PilzAdam and it adds a "!" with 50% probability
14:10 kahrl alright so if it used a ! we use your version, otherwise my version
14:10 kahrl uses*
14:10 PilzAdam so if there is no "!" we will pick mine, if there is one, we will pick yours?
14:10 kahrl well
14:11 kahrl let's go with your rules
14:11 PilzAdam oh, wait
14:11 PilzAdam it also has a "."
14:11 PilzAdam and it also has "sup"
14:11 PilzAdam so, "Hi" or "hey" = My version; "Hello" or "Sup" = your version
14:12 kahrl Hi MinetestBot
14:12 MinetestBot Hey kahrl
14:12 PilzAdam \o/
14:12 kahrl grats :D
14:12 PilzAdam lets test if the other actually work
14:12 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot
14:12 MinetestBot Hey PilzAdam
14:13 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot
14:13 MinetestBot Hey PilzAdam
14:13 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot
14:13 MinetestBot Hi PilzAdam!
14:13 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot
14:13 MinetestBot Hey PilzAdam
14:13 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot
14:13 MinetestBot Hey PilzAdam!
14:13 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot
14:13 MinetestBot Hi PilzAdam!
14:13 PilzAdam Hi MinetestBot
14:13 MinetestBot Hi PilzAdam!
14:13 NakedFury the ninjabot would have kicked both your asses by now
14:14 PilzAdam hmmm, I get "Hi" "Hello" and "Hey" in PM, but no "sup"
14:15 kahrl MinetestBot: reload ping
14:15 PilzAdam MinetestBot: reload ping
14:15 MinetestBot PilzAdam: <module 'ping' from '/home/xyz/bot/modules/ping.pyc'> (version: 2013-06-28 17:21:39)
14:15 kahrl that's an old version
14:16 PilzAdam MinetestBot is hosted by thexyz
14:16 kahrl sup was added yesterday
14:17 kahrl probably not pulled yet
14:19 kahrl the version from 2013-06-28 has no ".", so if it uses "" we use your version, if if uses "!" we use yours
14:19 kahrl erm haha
14:19 sfan5 :D
14:19 kahrl whatever, we use your version :D
14:19 PilzAdam sfan5, can you just add !random <low>,<high> ?
14:20 sfan5 PilzAdam: yes
14:20 sfan5 PilzAdam: I was thinking about what productive thing I can do today anyway..
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14:34 sfan5 PilzAdam: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/commit/ea030292e8
14:34 sfan5 ah, derp
14:35 sfan5 note to self: don't copy-pase everything
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14:38 bas080 The generating of shaders fails. What does that mean?
14:38 Zeg9 bas080: the new bumpmapping shaders work on 5 computers in this channel :p
14:39 Zeg9 proller: do you think it would be a problem to use groups for wield light? or is a new field needed?
14:39 PilzAdam Zeg9, I would prefer a new field in itemdef for wield light
14:39 bas080 Zeg9 Is it a neat feature?
14:39 Zeg9 bas080: only for high-res texture packs
14:40 Zeg9 PilzAdam: ok... I'll have to find out how to then
14:40 PilzAdam Zeg9, Ill look for a commit that might help you
14:40 Zeg9 Thanks
14:42 sfan5 thexyz: could you git pull the minetestbot-modules
14:43 proller Zeg9, how to make light from bucket if make with groups?
14:43 Zeg9 proller: groups = {wield_light=14}
14:43 kahrl https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/818
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14:44 Zeg9 it doesn't look that good, but is way easier to make
14:44 proller Zeg9, for all buckets? its mus t depend on content
14:44 Zeg9 Of course
14:44 proller or make group for lava, and use in bucket
14:45 PilzAdam kahrl, seems good
14:45 kahrl proller: use the wield_light of the liquid source for the bucket?
14:47 Zeg9 that is a good idea ^ but my problem is that I don't know if wield light should be defined in groups or the item definition itself
14:47 PilzAdam Zeg9, serialize is here https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/5e7e0347cdae0cab3b7d003fbd3b22c7f820e703/src/itemdef.cpp#L148 and deserialize here: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/5e7e0347cdae0cab3b7d003fbd3b22c7f820e703/src/itemdef.cpp#L201
14:48 Calinou I forgot to say it, but 3 days ago was my 2nd minetest birthday :D
14:49 Calinou minetest didn't have sound, an actual day-night cycle, 3D clouds and health was off by default
14:49 Calinou there were no locked chests too :>
14:50 PilzAdam Zeg9, when we get a new procol version then we would create version 3, but you dont have to care about that
14:51 Zeg9 alright
14:57 NekoGloop http://imgur.com/gallery/Gr4HzaM
14:57 * NekoGloop runs
14:57 PilzAdam its 16:57
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15:00 Zeg9 PilzAdam: should I add a check for a new protocol version (before writing the writeU8)?
15:00 PilzAdam no
15:01 Zeg9 and should it be added at the end, or just after "wield_scale"?
15:01 PilzAdam of course at the end
15:01 PilzAdam or do you want to break everything?
15:01 Zeg9 maybe
15:01 PilzAdam in the if(protocl_version > 17) at the end
15:03 Jordach protocol*
15:03 PilzAdam RBA was the last one who broke everything by inserting something in the middle of serialization relevant lists
15:03 Jordach RBA and sapier break everything as usual
15:04 Jordach theyre lua modders not C++ Devs
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15:07 Zeg9 It's not fun if it isn't broken :-)
15:08 Zeg9 "+1 if you're bored of recompiling everything just because you changed a single .h"
15:09 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/xyfNIPP.png
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15:14 Zeg9 PilzAdam: maybe you can help me, I have a problem with node textures being full bright when a torch is wielded
15:15 Zeg9 How could I pass a setting to the shader from there?
15:18 Calinou NekoGloop: -ENOT_FUN
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15:21 Jordach ugh, cant even get ahold of ShadowNinja
15:22 PilzAdam Zeg9, no idea
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15:23 PilzAdam Im not very familiar with this graphics stuff
15:23 Zeg9 I could define a global variable, but it sounds hacky
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15:30 MarkTwain Hello!
15:32 Calinou hi
15:32 proller it will be cool for night glow flowers, if they will be merged
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15:35 PilzAdam Zeg9, apply the light to the item in your hand too, if shaders are enabled
15:35 Zeg9 I'm trying to do this
15:36 PilzAdam WOOOOOW
15:36 PilzAdam wield_light = 120,
15:37 proller cause fire on trees ?
15:37 PilzAdam Zeg9, you should limit it
15:37 proller noo!
15:38 Zeg9 I was thinking, maybe it is better to not limit it. That way unhappy players will stop complaining about the "too small lights"
15:38 PilzAdam Zeg9, and add a note in lua-api.txt that it requires shaders to be enabled
15:39 Calinou are the lights slow or fast?
15:39 Calinou do they cast shadows? :trollface:
15:39 Calinou (unlikely)
15:39 PilzAdam they go through walls
15:40 proller Zeg9, and maybe later make ligtht ftom dropped torch ?
15:40 PilzAdam ^ yea, add a field to lua entities too
15:40 Zeg9 ^ and ^^: this requires dynamic lighting
15:46 PilzAdam if someone is bored: grep "TODO" src/*.{cpp,h}
15:46 PilzAdam bbl
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15:51 Calinou or add reclocking to nouveau
15:52 Calinou just as fun
15:52 Jordach omfg omfg
15:52 Jordach my castle is being attacked by simple mobs
15:52 Calinou simple mobs, simple since 2012
15:52 * sfan5 was just going to say "/r/nocontext"
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15:53 Jordach kaeza, the wiki mod's textbox isnt broken with 0.4.7 window
15:53 Jordach s*
15:53 Jordach i can clicky all day
15:53 Jordach and no crash
15:53 john_minetest There are way too many universities... Applied for 3 now, 2 more to do. Or maybe some more.
15:54 Calinou universities are like linux distros, john_minetest :-)
15:54 john_minetest Exactly.
15:56 john_minetest Everyone says that "This university/distro is the best one" and there is "so much more diversity for <university/distro>"...
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16:10 kaeza Jordach, have you tried clicking outside the text?
16:10 * Jordach checks on server
16:10 Jordach at mt.viewskew.com
16:11 kaeza also, do you find it useful?
16:12 kaeza May be good to provide some more extensive in-game description for nodes, etc.
16:12 Jordach kaeza, i clicked outside the textbox, nothing
16:13 kaeza good :)
16:13 Jordach and this is the 1.0.2 version
16:13 Jordach (second release)
16:13 kaeza mine crashes as soon as I do anythink outside the text with the mouse :/
16:13 kaeza -k+g
16:13 Jordach DirectX 1 - OpenGL 0
16:14 kaeza Jordach, it's not driver-specific
16:14 kaeza seems to be a bug in the GUI code itself
16:14 kaeza which Irrlicht version do Win builds use?
16:15 Jordach 1.8.0
16:15 kaeza zing
16:15 kaeza I have 1.7.2
16:16 kaeza Jordach, try going to /ml/Recent :)
16:16 Jordach i havent updated the mod yet
16:17 kaeza oh :<
16:17 Jordach and i want my server to keep running 24/7
16:18 Jordach i find this rather amusing: i have a .doc format in word 2007, it says: [Compatibility Mode], when MS bloody wrote their own format!
16:20 kaeza Jordach, http://www.memegenerator.es/imagenes/memes/56/4383244.jpg
16:20 Jordach heh
16:21 Jordach why use something if it isnt broken
16:21 Jordach -why
16:22 kaeza becayse money
16:22 kaeza cause*
16:22 kaeza stupid keyboard-.-
16:23 Calinou <Jordach> DirectX 1 - OpenGL 0
16:23 Calinou nope
16:23 Calinou you mean Direct3D
16:23 Calinou and proprietary APIs still suck
16:24 kaeza Calinou, Direct3D falls into the DirectX group
16:24 Calinou OpenGL does rendering, Direct3D does renderng
16:24 Calinou DirectX is a collection of libraries
16:24 kaeza yep
16:24 kaeza the 2D API is called DirectDraw
16:25 Calinou DirectSound for sound, DirectInput for input, DirectPlay for network (lol)
16:26 kaeza COM is cancer y'know?
16:26 Calinou COM?
16:26 kaeza Common Object Model
16:27 kaeza (some proprietary shit by M$)
16:27 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/RHuZb7z.png
16:27 kaeza Jordach, lol
16:27 kaeza >made on imgur :|
16:28 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/fq5OLg7.jpg
16:28 kaeza that's what she said!
16:29 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/NCJ0H3R.png
16:30 marktraceur You know what really grinds my gears? Tired memes.
16:31 Calinou don't forget broadcom wifi
16:31 Calinou (grinds everyone's gears, or ears, you choose)
16:32 kaeza why not both?
16:32 Calinou because.
16:32 Calinou broadcom logic
16:33 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/lIIO1LN.gif <- deadpool: the game (i actually own it)
16:33 Calinou a dungeon master riding a rocket ^
16:36 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/va63ptZ.jpg
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16:40 * Zeg9 is fixing the main menu's server list since nobody does it
16:40 Calinou add nouveau reclocking, GL 4.3 support and SLI while you're at it
16:41 Zeg9 I like these kicks :)
16:47 Jordach nouveau is crap
16:48 Jordach Zeg9, i just recieved the mail for your latest pull in five seconds
16:48 Exio who here haz the shitty network around?
16:48 * Jordach sneaks off
16:49 Zeg9 300kB/s as a big maximum, is that a shitty network for you Exio?
16:49 Exio http://dpaste.com/1292694/
16:49 Exio 50seconds of latency
16:49 Exio up to 65
16:50 Zeg9 I hope this is NOT a MMO server
16:50 Exio what?
16:51 NekoGloop http://i.imgur.com/xyfNIPP.png Yo sup hows it goin
16:51 Exio Zeg9: this == ? :P
16:52 Zeg9 I thought, from the name, that shadowempire.in was the address for a mmorpg server :P
16:52 Exio ah
16:52 Exio it is a MC server
16:52 Exio i play mc, yes
16:52 Exio who will kill me
16:52 Zeg9 is the mc server that laggy or just the website ? :p
16:52 Exio it is laggy if you don't live in europe
16:53 Exio i get 300ms of lag from argentina though
16:53 Exio sometimes under, sometimes over 400
16:53 Exio depends of my network
16:53 * kaeza gives a plate river high five to Exio
16:53 Jordach OMFG
16:54 * Jordach just saw someone use mega.co.nz for a download
16:55 kaeza (actually "River of Silver", but whatever)
16:56 Jordach holy shit balls. downloaded in 56 seconds and the actual download in 2 secs
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17:04 UniqueWisdom herro
17:06 Jordach hm
17:06 UniqueWisdom so i just found out about this game
17:06 sfan5 and?
17:06 UniqueWisdom looks cool
17:06 UniqueWisdom is it worth
17:06 UniqueWisdom downloading
17:06 Jordach YES
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17:07 UniqueWisdom alright
17:07 UniqueWisdom ill try it out
17:08 Exio rio de la plata
17:08 Exio say stuff in spanish kaeza :P
17:09 kaeza englisch is kewl :P
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17:12 UniqueWisdom lol
17:12 UniqueWisdom this looks cool
17:12 UniqueWisdom like mc in beta stage
17:12 sfan5 yeah
17:13 Calinou UniqueWisdom right now: "this is like mass effect multiplayer"
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17:13 Calinou (original quote from me, december 2011)
17:13 sfan5 this is the first time someone says "like mc in beta" instead of "like mc in alpha"
17:13 Calinou "alpha" is usually negative :P
17:13 sfan5 yeah
17:13 UniqueWisdom lol
17:14 UniqueWisdom can i change the controls?
17:14 Jordach yes, settings tab; change keys
17:15 UniqueWisdom thanks
17:15 Jordach UniqueWisdom, i know pretty much everything about minetest
17:16 UniqueWisdom first thing i notice
17:16 UniqueWisdom is the blocks are put in to my inventory automatically
17:16 Jordach yes
17:16 sfan5 my turn: <nickname>, I'm in the Minetest core developer team
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17:17 Jordach no more diamonds in lava....ever
17:17 * Calinou makes Jordach throw their diamonds in lava, captions "matter cannot be created or destroyed", says "BITCH PLEASE"
17:17 Jordach Calinou, lava does not destroy items
17:18 kaeza as you can see, Calinou is the troll in the family
17:18 Jordach useless troll*
17:18 UniqueWisdom are there uh hostile mobs
17:18 NekoGloop I'm the kitten
17:18 Jordach nope, you have to install them
17:18 sfan5 UniqueWisdom: nope, you need to install a mod
17:18 sfan5 Simple Mobs or mobf
17:18 Jordach !g simple mobs pilzadam
17:18 MinetestBot Jordach: https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs
17:18 UniqueWisdom ok cool
17:18 Jordach download that
17:18 * Jordach pets MinetestBot
17:18 Jordach good girl
17:18 NekoGloop be warned that any mob mod causes immense lag or doesn't work properly
17:18 Calinou kaeza: no, according to redroid I'm the parrot
17:19 * sfan5 nominates MinetestBot for the "most-useful bot of the year award"
17:19 * MinetestBot purrs
17:19 UniqueWisdom its cool
17:19 UniqueWisdom so there arent mobs in the game itself?
17:19 UniqueWisdom without mods
17:19 sfan5 no
17:19 Calinou nope
17:19 Calinou for various reasons
17:19 kaeza nein
17:19 UniqueWisdom alright
17:19 Calinou Jordach: with pilzadam's item_drop it does :P
17:19 UniqueWisdom was just wondering
17:19 Jordach no mobs unless you want them, essentially giving you the ultimate choiec
17:19 Jordach choice*
17:19 Calinou just like gentoo
17:19 UniqueWisdom well if it causes immense lag
17:19 UniqueWisdom im fine
17:19 UniqueWisdom lol
17:20 sfan5 UniqueWisdom: mobs don't cause immense lag
17:20 Jordach UniqueWisdom, simple mobs isnt actually heavy on old computers
17:21 NekoGloop simple mobs is the one that doesn't work properly
17:21 NekoGloop mobf is the one that lags immensely
17:22 Calinou simple mobs works properly for me
17:22 * Kacey woke up at noon
17:23 Calinou cool story :P
17:28 Jordach http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-cqKP7xr2TXc/TyX2XDkglbI/AAAAAAAAAFA/CKkyJ3ckLOQ/s1600/CoolStoryBroHouse.jpg
17:28 VanessaE hi
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17:52 sfan5 someone just said YOLO ;_;
17:53 Calinou YOLO
17:53 * Calinou writes a noyolo mod
17:53 Calinou bans anyone saying YOLO
17:53 sfan5 ^
17:53 sfan5 do that
17:53 Calinou (someone did that for minecraft :P)
17:54 sfan5 linke meg
17:54 sfan5 *meh
17:54 sfan5 -e
17:54 Zeg9 YOLO - You Only Login Once
17:54 UniqueWisdom there is a perfect 5x5 square in the ground where the sand fell down
17:55 UniqueWisdom leaves need wood blocks to not decay?
17:55 UniqueWisdom so wood planks work?
17:56 FreeFull UniqueWisdom: Only tree blocks work
17:57 Calinou sfan5: nope :P
17:57 Calinou UniqueWisdom: trees and jungle trees prevent decay
17:57 Calinou note that player-placed leaves decay
17:57 UniqueWisdom how many blocks
17:57 UniqueWisdom around it
17:57 Calinou 4, iirc
17:57 Calinou try? :P
18:01 UniqueWisdom lol are there really nyan cat blocks?
18:01 sfan5 yes
18:02 Kacey yep
18:02 Kacey Calinou, YOLO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
18:03 sfan5 !kill Kacey with fire
18:03 Kacey i like fire
18:03 VanessaE UniqueWisdom: yep:  http://wiki.minetest.net/Nyan_Cat
18:03 sfan5 !wik Nyan Cat
18:03 sfan5 MinetestBot!
18:03 MinetestBot sfan5!
18:03 sfan5 !wiki Nyan Cat
18:03 sfan5 !wik Nyan Cat
18:03 sfan5 wat
18:03 VanessaE (whoever did those renders should rotate them 90° about the Y axis)
18:06 Calinou me = "Calinou",
18:06 Calinou erm, no
18:06 Calinou it's blockmen
18:06 Zeg9 BlockMen uploaded them, but I think it originated from the old wiki :p
18:07 Zeg9 Calinou: btw the download link for your .blend died with ompldr
18:08 Calinou I'll upload em again
18:08 Calinou https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/misc/minetest_block_render_blends.zip
18:09 Zeg9 does it have any script for automated rendering? :p
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18:10 Calinou no
18:11 Zeg9 Gotta go, bye.
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19:14 sfan5 GLib-ERROR **: /build/buildd/glib2.0-2.36.0/./glib/gmem.c:165: failed to allocate 18446744073709512192 bytes
19:14 sfan5 ^ wat?
19:14 sokomine uff. what are you doing?
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19:15 sfan5 using qemu
19:17 BrandonReese !up landrush.bremaweb.com 31000
19:17 MinetestBot landrush.bremaweb.com:31000 is up (507ms)
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19:17 MinetestBot mt.bremaweb.com:31000 is up (268ms)
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19:29 Kacey https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/998514_178294609024159_358422106_n.jpg
19:30 Calinou [facebook image warning]
19:30 Calinou brace yourselves
19:30 Calinou the Calinou is clicking that link
19:31 Calinou heh
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19:44 thexyz suggestion: improve forum discussions by deleting useless comments like this one http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=98749#p98749
19:44 Calinou thexyz, you're admin, you can do that :P
19:46 kahrl useless? he might be seeing someone drown
19:46 Calinou haha
19:46 Kacey can we just ban this Dan dude?
19:46 Calinou Kacey, what did he do?
19:47 Kacey he constantly answers to EVERY topic and begins an argument, he replies ABOVE the quote(just plain annoying...) and he seems like a troll
19:48 PilzAdam he writes above the quote box, not under it
19:48 frogcrush It isn't nice to ban people because they express their opinions...
19:48 PilzAdam that should result in a ban
19:48 Calinou frogcrush, if their opinions aren't made to flame, then ok
19:49 Calinou but I don't think dan is intentionally flaming or trolling
19:49 Jordach he is an ugly troll
19:49 Jordach and a bad one at that
19:49 PilzAdam I think hes just dump
19:49 thexyz yes, ban him for topposting
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19:54 hdastwb1 Thunderbird just automatically changed my name…
19:55 frogcrush1 Anyone else get kicked?
19:56 hdastwb1 joined #minetest
19:56 Calinou no
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19:56 Calinou hdastwb, thunderbird as an IRC client? O_o
19:56 frogcrush1 Yeah
19:56 frogcrush1 It's pretty awesome
19:57 frogcrush1 Thunderbird has multiple chat protocols
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19:58 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/Y3bJGhdA1
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20:09 oxenfreedan what are we supposed to do here in the #minetest irc?
20:09 Exio stalk idlers
20:09 oxenfreedan what?
20:09 Exio nah, just random chat and so
20:09 Exio look at the logs, they are somewhat funny :P
20:09 oxenfreedan oh
20:09 oxenfreedan lol
20:09 Exio random support
20:10 Exio random chat, and so on
20:10 * oxenfreedan
20:10 oxenfreedan haha the command is here
20:10 PilzAdam every monday and friday is distor flamewar
20:10 PilzAdam -r
20:10 PilzAdam *distro
20:10 oxenfreedan whats that supposed to mean
20:11 Calinou tuesday "who is best pony", wednesday "this feature sucks" day, thursday "what games do you play" day, saturday is DE wars day, sunday hardware brands wars
20:11 Calinou now we know what to do every day
20:11 * Exio slaps Calinou with an AMD CPU
20:12 Calinou we aren't sunday
20:12 Jordach today is a tuesday
20:12 Jordach /part fuck this
20:12 oxenfreedan who cares about ponies?
20:12 PilzAdam Taoki
20:12 * oxenfreedan thinks thay are totally blah
20:13 Taoki yep
20:13 Taoki Prolly not the only one eh :)
20:13 * Taoki knows other users who do ^^
20:13 Calinou Exio, too
20:13 Exio i don't
20:13 Calinou too bad mh0 isn't here :>
20:13 Exio that is mh0
20:13 Exio too bad? too good
20:13 Exio i hope he doesn't even try to join :D
20:13 Exio inb4 you tell him to /join
20:14 Calinou no, I won't
20:14 Jordach !!ban mh0
20:14 Calinou what if I invite him :>
20:14 Exio D:
20:14 oxenfreedan it was funny i logged on and no one was talking for like five mins and then  i said something and everyone starts to talk XD
20:14 Exio no please
20:14 Exio oxenfreedan: that happens always
20:14 Exio someone needs to say something
20:14 oxenfreedan lol
20:14 Exio (like Calinou asking for rarity)
20:14 PilzAdam oxenfreedan, just say "Java", works always
20:15 Calinou Exio, /whois rarity
20:15 Calinou no need to ask for it
20:15 oxenfreedan java
20:15 Exio lol
20:15 Exio i wonder how do you that "much" about MLP ponies ;)
20:15 * oxenfreedan throws mac and java out the window
20:15 PilzAdam JAVA FTW!
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20:16 * oxenfreedan then goes out stomps the mac into the ground looks at the java and picks it up and puts it back into linux so that it continues to work
20:16 * Exio changes the i7 in PilzAdam's mobo with a celeron
20:16 Exio try to run any java program now :>
20:17 * oxenfreedan laughs and squirts ketchup on the keyboard
20:17 Exio wat
20:17 oxenfreedan i pretty much only use amd
20:18 * oxenfreedan replaces PilzAdam's mobo's processor with a pentium 2
20:18 Jordach 8086
20:18 Jordach much better
20:18 * oxenfreedan then gives the computer 256 mbs of ram
20:18 Calinou 80085 - oh, that isn't a CPU
20:18 oxenfreedan run minetest now
20:18 Calinou <Exio> i wonder how do you that "much" about MLP ponies ;)
20:18 Exio know
20:18 Calinou it's simple. I play RPG games daily.
20:18 Exio where is it
20:19 Exio oxenfreedan: what is your cpu right now?
20:19 MinetestBot GIT: proller@github.com commited to minetest/minetest: Public server checkbox e3b7c8e0cc 2013-07-09T13:17:47-07:00 http://git.io/tMBSMg
20:20 oxenfreedan amd turion 64 x2 mobile technology 1.8 ghz dual core
20:20 Exio mobile D:
20:20 oxenfreedan that explain it enough for ya?
20:20 oxenfreedan HEY
20:20 Exio i don't like mobiles cpu
20:20 oxenfreedan i got the whole laptop for free
20:20 Exio ah
20:20 Exio i like it then :D
20:21 kaeza "de arriba un rayo"
20:21 oxenfreedan you wont like it after i say this
20:21 oxenfreedan hp pavilion dv6000
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20:21 Calinou mobile CPUs are close to their desktop counterparts, unlike graphic cards
20:21 Jordach dont ever knock a hp pavillion
20:21 Jordach they are beasts of machines
20:21 Calinou if you reduce frequency of a CPU by 30%, performance only goes down by like 20 to 25%
20:21 Calinou making your perf/watt better even if you don't touch voltage
20:21 oxenfreedan what do you knock?
20:21 Calinou oxenfreedan, ponies
20:22 Jordach dont ever basically diss the pavillion range
20:22 Jordach i've never had one go wrong
20:22 Exio Calinou: but perf/$ gets fucked up
20:22 Calinou my old laptop is an hp pavillon
20:22 Exio they are expensive but worse?
20:22 Exio how does that work
20:22 BrandonReese I've got a 7 year old gateway laptop skill kicking
20:23 Calinou heavy, shit battery, makes "crr" sounds when opening screen, insanely slow 5400rpm HDD
20:23 Calinou slow boot times
20:23 Calinou and all that
20:23 Calinou oh and bad screen
20:23 Calinou TN, shiny screen, 1440×900 on a 17".
20:23 Exio the battery of my acer aspire one was pretty good
20:23 Exio really, it is and was amazing
20:23 Exio about 50% of its "max charge" and it has about 3 years :D
20:23 oxenfreedan hahahhaa pls dont tell me that that was one of those ttiny laptops
20:23 Exio AAO is a netbook, yes
20:24 Calinou 50% after 3 years doesn't sound that good
20:24 oxenfreedan hehe
20:24 Exio Calinou: most of the laptops i know get 50% after a year and half or less of use
20:24 Exio that is 50% of a 3cell battery
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20:24 oxenfreedan the battery on my laptop is giant
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20:25 Exio and i got boot times of about 15 seconds (from bios -> whole system)
20:25 oxenfreedan it has the upgraded battery
20:25 Exio 7 seconds from grub to the whole system
20:25 Calinou "upgraded", bigger margins since 2002
20:25 Exio 5 to just the TTY
20:25 oxenfreedan what os?
20:25 Exio oxenfreedan: gentoo, but i don't start it since i got the desktop
20:25 Exio (start for more than 30 minutes)
20:26 Exio my desktop can be a shitty arch but works pretty well when multithreading :P
20:26 Exio i can start firefox and MT and CS CZ at same time!
20:26 oxenfreedan the new desktop im building for myself will have the amd phenom 2 x6 processor :-)
20:26 Calinou >new >phenom x6
20:26 Exio Calinou: 6 FPUs
20:26 Calinou are you a FX hater, or just buying old stuff because you don't know what's current gen?
20:26 Calinou Exio, it performs worse than a FX-8xxx
20:27 Exio 8100? ;P
20:27 oxenfreedan no its the highest my mobo supports
20:27 Exio the vishera is a pretty well arch though
20:27 Exio oxenfreedan: > new > old mobo
20:27 Exio wait, AM3+?
20:27 Exio then you can upgrade to a vishera without any problem
20:27 oxenfreedan yes AM3 socket
20:27 Exio AM3 != AM3+
20:27 oxenfreedan vishera?
20:27 Exio what is it?
20:27 Exio the latest FX
20:28 oxenfreedan am3
20:28 oxenfreedan FX?
20:28 Exio didn't know there was phenom 2 x6 + am3
20:28 oxenfreedan well there is
20:28 Exio !google amd fx arch vishera
20:28 Exio bots pls
20:28 frogcrush !g i believe
20:28 MinetestBot frogcrush: http://thisibelieve.org/
20:28 oxenfreedan your confusing me
20:28 Calinou !g amd fx arch vishera Exio mlp oxenfreedan minetest
20:28 MinetestBot Calinou: No results found for 'amd fx arch vishera Exio mlp oxenfreedan minetest'.
20:29 Calinou \o/
20:29 Calinou google, I won
20:29 Exio !g amd fx arch vishera
20:29 MinetestBot Exio: http://semiaccurate.com/2012/10/22/amds-second-generation-fx-processor-vishera/
20:30 oxenfreedan omw this is so confusing cause i have no clue whats going on
20:31 Exio wtf
20:31 Exio and you are trying to build a desktop?
20:31 oxenfreedan yes...
20:31 Calinou even if you fully have a clue, it'll be hard
20:31 Calinou it took me an entire day to build my PC, and I was scared of breaking my HW
20:32 oxenfreedan what is that supposed to mean
20:32 Exio lol
20:32 Calinou oh, and it still crashes at boot.
20:32 Calinou haven't tried when compiling something
20:32 Exio Calinou: run some super-heavy-and-intensive benchmark for 30 minutes
20:32 Exio or a hour :P
20:32 Calinou useless
20:32 oxenfreedan all i have so far is the motherboard in a case i need a processor (about to get that) and later i will need a power supply
20:32 Exio why Calinou?
20:32 Calinou oxenfreedan, pick a decent power supply
20:32 Calinou not a 15€ one
20:33 Exio ^
20:33 Calinou be careful about this
20:33 Calinou low end is good, jokes are not
20:33 oxenfreedan whats that in us dollars
20:34 Exio 20
20:34 Exio buy a decent one, he said
20:34 Calinou decent ones cost 60-80$
20:34 oxenfreedan the one im looking at is a 30 dollar one
20:34 Calinou shit one then
20:34 Calinou phew, we saved you 8)
20:35 * oxenfreedan may leave cause of some peoples language ^
20:35 Exio aww
20:35 Exio poor oxenfreedan
20:35 * oxenfreedan may leave cause of that too ^
20:35 Calinou I don't swear often, you saw worse, probably
20:36 oxenfreedan actually i have once on redcrab
20:36 sfan5 good night
20:36 oxenfreedan piggyguys languagge
20:36 Exio just shutup god damnit fuck you motherfucker idiot, fucking stupid
20:36 Exio that is k
20:36 * oxenfreedan has left
20:37 * Calinou shrugs
20:37 Calinou night, anyway :)
20:38 NekoGloop meow
20:38 Taoki For anyone interested in my structures / towns mod: Thanks to hmmmm fixing schematic facedir and PilzAdam's help with the furnace crash, the mod is now switched to use schematic + voxelmanip support. This will allow for much bigger towns which are less resource intensive to build, and remove malformed (incomplete) building spawns
20:38 Taoki So if anyone has the mod or is interested, it's safer and better to get it now / should be updated to this
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20:41 skydoesminetest what is the purpose of a bot?
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20:42 Cerise joined #minetest
20:42 MinetestBot Don't you like bots?
20:42 Mati^1 joined #minetest
20:42 skydoesminetest im fine with bots but what is your purpose
20:43 skydoesminetest if you are a bot
20:43 PilzAdam !dev minetest.register_node
20:43 MinetestBot "Registers a new node named 'name'." - http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_node
20:43 PilzAdam ^ this is helpful
20:43 skydoesminetest oh
20:43 PilzAdam also, automated anti spam/flood protection
20:44 skydoesminetest what is their purpose on a server
20:44 PilzAdam !op ShadowBot`
20:44 skydoesminetest cause in know that stan5 has put a bot on servers
20:44 PilzAdam ShadowBot`, STFU
20:44 Taoki !dev VoxelManip
20:44 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/VoxelManip
20:44 Taoki !dev VoxelManip()
20:44 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/VoxelManip()
20:44 Taoki Muahahaha <:)
20:53 NekoGloop http://ifunny.mobi/p/yvkDpFF51 I want one of these
20:53 PilzAdam ^ caution, pron
20:58 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Fix serverlist 1c7c5d571d 2013-07-09T13:55:39-07:00 http://git.io/DprWcQ
21:21 Kacey a wild Kacey appears!
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21:21 * PilzAdam shoots it
21:22 Kacey ithas no effect
21:23 * NekoGloop uses Draco Meteor
21:27 * Kacey uses Chuck Norris
21:27 NekoGloop It doesn't affect NEKOGLOOP...
21:27 * Kacey uses kittens
21:28 NekoGloop It's not very effective...
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21:29 NekoGloop Fighting fire with fire doesn't work well ;)
21:29 Kacey <Calinou> tuesday "who is best pony", wednesday "this feature sucks" day, thursday "what games do you play" day, saturday is DE wars day, sunday hardware brands wars
21:29 Kacey huh
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21:31 PilzAdam Kacey, monday and friday are distro flamewars
21:31 NekoGloop No, monday is "fuck life I want to sleep", friday is "PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARTAY"
21:32 PilzAdam no
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21:35 Kacey i say pinky pie!
21:35 NekoGloop I say a dead pony.
21:37 * PilzAdam revives the pony
21:37 NekoGloop I'm talking about which one is best. I say best pony is dead pony.
21:38 PilzAdam that pony doesnt exist
21:38 NekoGloop A shotgun says otherwise.
21:38 * MinetestBot says otherwise
21:40 Kacey a NUCLEAR MISSLE says otherwaise
21:40 Kacey otherwise*
21:44 NekoGloop This pie says otherwise
21:45 * NekoGloop throws the pie at PilzAdam's face
21:45 PilzAdam fantastic, now you have a mushroom with pie all over it
21:46 NekoGloop Ought to smell better
21:52 Taoki Oh, I sort of forgot to ask. Was the multiple material issue with models fixed? Some people reported that it didn't work, even if I meant it to when I added model support
21:52 Taoki Like if a mesh has several segments, ability to texture each ones individually
21:52 Taoki *multiple materials
21:52 PilzAdam it turned out that not the patch but the model that was broken due to it was wrong
21:53 PilzAdam so we need to re-merge that patch
21:53 Taoki Ah. So if the model is done properly it should work now yes?
21:53 Taoki Ah, not merged yet. Ok
21:54 Taoki If the model was the issue then yeah, please re-merge it when you get to it
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22:02 Taoki I think it was https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/767
22:09 LazyJ My apologies for interjecting, where in minetest.net forums is the setting to change the language preference?  I haven't been able to locate it in my profile settings.
22:10 PilzAdam there is no support for other languages
22:10 LazyJ Ah.
22:10 LazyJ Ok, thanks for the info.
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22:24 PilzAdam Taoki, done
22:24 MinetestBot GIT: stujones11@server.fake commited to minetest/minetest: Fix multiple texture support for animated meshnodes e8f201cefa 2013-07-09T15:22:21-07:00 http://git.io/BlPPHg
22:24 Taoki PilzAdam: Ok, thanks!
22:25 Taoki Might be useful for the future ideas
22:26 PilzAdam this might be useful for multiple textures for animated meshnodes
22:30 Taoki Mesh nodes... if only...
22:30 Taoki I heard RBA was working on it... i couldn't figure it out for nodes tho
22:31 PilzAdam RBA works on _everything_
22:34 Taoki Much of the awesome stuff, yes :)
22:34 Taoki hmmmm is working on the other half of "much of the awesome stuff" (namely vmanip / schematics and v7)
22:41 Exio sapier in the other half
22:41 Exio 1/2 + 1/2 + 1/2 = minetest
22:42 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emlcwyvnsg0
22:47 PilzAdam and PilzAdam is useless :-/
22:53 Exio no, you are a 1/3 in the engine
22:53 Exio but like 4/3 of the lua game :P
23:00 NekoGloop because everything has to go through him?
23:22 hmmmm heh
23:22 hmmmm http://www.crytek.com/career/offers/overview/frankfurt/programming-engineering/linux-programmer
23:32 Kacey http://www.coolmath-games.com/0-fruits/index.html huh
23:36 PilzAdam the music is epic
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23:39 LazyJ Anyone know if <0.4.6 "/clearobjects" removes dropped items before the server crashes?
23:39 LazyJ Will successive attempts eventually accomplish the task?
23:40 PilzAdam depends on the mapsize
23:40 PilzAdam its not really predictable
23:42 LazyJ The current map size is 2.7gb
23:42 LazyJ We are experiencing odd, vertical columns of dropped items appearing above ground and embedded below ground.
23:43 LazyJ Sokomine told me about turning off F4 and coming back to a place to see the dropped items.
23:43 LazyJ Quite prolific in some areas.
23:44 LazyJ The server admin has indicated that an upgrade to 0.4.7 is not likely.
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23:45 PilzAdam well, if you dont update then its your fault
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23:46 LazyJ Yeah, so that's why I'm trying to figure out how to work with the tools I'm given.
23:51 sokomine kahrl did take a look at those columns yesterday
23:51 sokomine the method to identify these colums was described to me by pilzadam :-
23:51 sokomine :-)
23:52 sokomine updating might be the best idea. at least eventually
23:52 LazyJ Agreed, but that's out of my hands.
23:54 LazyJ Now I'm wondering if it would have been best not to install any mods at all.
23:54 PilzAdam no, that wouldnt help
23:54 sokomine no. without mods, the game's not that great
23:55 LazyJ Aye. But then perhaps he wouldn't be so reluctant to upgrade the server.
23:55 sokomine i hope the bug can be fixed. kahrl did take a look at it, and i hope it gives him an idea what the bug is
23:55 LazyJ We probably wouldn't have too many players either. Oy...
23:56 LazyJ Ah, I'm just griping some old frustration.
23:56 sokomine oh. don't be frustrated. most things do get better
23:56 LazyJ Yesterday I loaded up the old .0.4.4 world.
23:57 LazyJ We were told that the database was incompatible with 0.4.6so that world had to be scrapped.
23:57 sokomine between 0.4.4 and 0.4.7? don't think so
23:57 LazyJ Turns out, after I edited the world.mt file and put the mods in the mod folder as a modpack, things worked.
23:57 sokomine maybe between older 0.3er versions
23:58 sokomine indidivual mods may cause unknown blocks because the mod or the name of objects changed, but that's usually not such a big problem
23:58 sokomine how large was the old world?
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23:59 LazyJ I'd experienced a bit of a mess during the transition after Calinou merged the stairs+ into moreblocks and then some of those blocks were incorporated into the default game.
23:59 LazyJ These were just in my singleplayer worlds, small by comparison to the server world.

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