Time Nick Message 01:03 Exio VanessaE: hmm 01:03 VanessaE hm? 01:03 Exio [20:47:16] ok I've officially decided: irrlicht 1.8 sucks. 01:03 Exio why? :P 01:03 VanessaE because it's slower and it makes minetest water glitchy. 01:14 PilzAdam bye 01:49 beez anyone remember which mod hold the face player lines, i need to borrow the face player but i forget how its phrased in this... 01:50 kaeza face? 01:50 VanessaE face player lines? 01:51 VanessaE maybe he means the player model? 01:51 kaeza may be 01:51 OldCoder Hi. I'm getting massive crashes in my worlds related to 4seasons and riventest 01:51 OldCoder Which I don't recall hearing of 01:52 OldCoder I have not done updates... Does anybody recognize these names? 01:52 VanessaE haven't used those mods, but 4seasons is generally considered outdated I'd think. 01:52 VanessaE riventest, no idea. 01:52 OldCoder Started with migration... some sort of CPU incompatibility 01:52 OldCoder odd 02:01 sokomine there ought to be no crashes due to 4seasons, but it's not used much anymore. iirc it was lag that led to its removal on the kingarthur server. it was a nice mod 02:06 beez oh shit. i mean like, how when you place a furnace it looks at you on initial place. but i remember you could have them aim up also 02:07 VanessaE that's facedir. 02:07 VanessaE and it's part of the API, many mods can do that. 02:07 VanessaE you probably wanna use the screwdriver 02:08 beez i was wondering where to find that line, thanks 02:08 beez facedir = true? 02:09 beez or more complex? 02:09 VanessaE more complex 02:09 VanessaE paramtype2 = "facedir", then you set param2 = somevalue when you add a node. 02:10 VanessaE e.g. minetest.add_node(pos, {name="default:furnace", param2 = 3}) 02:10 VanessaE there's some basic prediction for facedir already, so stuff will usually at least turn to face you on placement anyway 02:10 beez thanks 02:11 beez but i am remaking my personal mod that allows logs to be placed sideways 02:11 beez like minecraft 02:11 VanessaE right 02:11 beez except i had the idea before notch 02:11 beez or was it jeb? 02:11 VanessaE for that (which btw moreblocks has already), you'd use param2 = ....um... either 0 or 5 I think. 02:11 Exio jeb probably 02:11 beez i think it was 0 02:12 VanessaE dunno, but calinou beat you to it already :) 02:12 beez well i am trying to make my self a full mod for my own use. stuff like this is practice 02:12 VanessaE no prob 02:12 Exio i understand 02:12 VanessaE that's a good start anyway 02:12 Exio trying to do something just for learning :P 02:12 * Exio is using minetest for learning C++ 02:12 kaeza most of the (basic) stuff from MC has already been copied to MT 02:12 beez more remembering 02:13 Exio i'm used to C 02:13 kaeza s/copied/"ported"/ 02:13 beez i worked on this stuff months ago 02:13 VanessaE kaeza: and some stuff in MT got stolen into MC :) 02:13 beez but then left 02:13 Exio VanessaE: nah 02:13 Exio it is called, doing the right way ;P 02:13 VanessaE heh 02:13 Exio and for now, the "mod api" of minetest 02:13 Exio is amazinly amazing 02:14 beez :P 02:17 beez the dam thing is locked... idk what i did wrong... 02:19 beez hmmm 02:20 Exio don't add more m(s) ;P 02:20 beez paramtype2 = "facedir", seems to make it face me but the cut on the log ALWAYS faces up/down 02:21 VanessaE beez, to make it horizontal you'll have to set the facedir manually via the on_place function 02:21 beez wish i had my code from before 02:21 VanessaE or you'll have to define a log that's already rotated (that can be done by referencing the default tree textures and using ^[transformR90 where necessary) 02:22 beez hmm... might just make a sideways log as its own item 02:23 VanessaE that's the easiest way 02:25 beez sucks that i cant make a block that has the vert and horizontal ability easy 02:25 beez i had one, but idk how i did it 02:25 beez was under 6 lines 02:25 VanessaE you can, you have to hook into the on_place= handler (or after_place_node will work too) 02:25 beez hmm 02:26 beez r90... 02:27 beez ^[transformR90] the way to say it? 02:27 VanessaE tiles = { ...... , "default_tree.png^[transformR90" , ..... } 02:27 VanessaE (no closing ] as [ is not an opener) 02:28 beez and now i have a working sideways log 02:28 beez thanks 100x 02:28 VanessaE np. 02:29 beez now to muck about with other stuff 02:42 MrEldritch Could somebody explain the LGPL to me? I'm running off of insufficient sleep, insufficient food, and illness, and right now I just don't have the neural processing cycles to understand legalese. 02:44 VanessaE no idea. 02:44 VanessaE except I guess you can link your commercial project to an LGPL library and sell the resultant package as long as follow the usual provisions ofr sharing the LPGL'd source. 02:46 MrEldritch I'd been thinking of opening MineTest up and looking at how it handles a lot of stuff, but I was afraid ithat any code I would produce would look too similar and that in the (extremely unlikely) event I got something good enough to be commercial that I would end up going the same way as Infiniminer. 02:56 MrEldritch Hello! 02:57 kaeza hi 02:58 MrEldritch By the way, I haven't been keeping up with Minetest's development in a while. Does Minetest have a working mob engine that isn't just sprites yet? The level of developer bullshit, modder bullshit, and general drama, bullshit, and crushing disappointment and regret involved in Minecraft is getting to be too much for me, and I was wondering if Minetest was a viable alternative yet. 02:59 kaeza well... 03:01 kaeza Mobs were moved to the Lua side long ago 03:01 VanessaE ...and they are usually 3d 03:01 VanessaE if they use the player model, they are compatible with MC skins. 03:04 Kacey back 03:04 VanessaE wb 03:13 Kacey ty 03:16 Kacey khonkhortisan, how do i activate your crossing code? 03:17 VanessaE khonkhortisan: aside from needing textures, is there anything else that patch needs? 03:29 Vadtec Kacey: sorry i missed you last night, got sucked into helping my dad with his new gps... 03:30 Vadtec you still need help with compiling on windows? 03:30 Kacey maybe tomorrow. bedtime is soon. 03:30 Vadtec ok 03:30 Vadtec ill try to do a simple write up on it 03:31 Vadtec its a fairly straightforward method 03:31 Vadtec though sound is a pain in the ass 03:32 Kacey i have mingw installed. but compiling all the neccesary components for minetest is hard... i wish windows would do a good sudo apt-get 03:35 Vadtec Kacey: the only hard part is having to DL each of the deps 03:35 Vadtec and putting them in the right location 03:36 Vadtec otherwise the commands are pretty much the same 03:39 * Menche is really annoyed at bones mod 03:40 Menche players can drop bones in protected areas 03:40 Menche and fresh bones with items can't be removed 03:42 jordan4ibanez Lol I asked Richard Stallman to play Xonotic with me, and it's a definate maybe. 03:42 Menche can bones be disabled from game.conf? 03:44 VanessaE Menche: I just delete the bones mod. 03:44 Menche should be a disable option like with fire 03:44 VanessaE there might be such, but I'm not sure. 03:44 Kacey i just delete both of them. useless anyway 03:45 VanessaE nothing in minetest.conf.example about it though 03:45 VanessaE so I guess nuke it. 03:45 Menche sometimes i have to grab the game again for some reason, and forget to delete it 03:45 Menche happened with fire, with disastrous results 03:45 VanessaE I automated all that with a script 03:46 VanessaE it copies everything into their proper places, deletes what I don't want, packages up the result into a game, and installs it to my server and to my client ofr single player use. 03:46 VanessaE for* 03:46 Menche i install my server with checkinstall but manage the game separately 03:47 VanessaE ditto 03:47 VanessaE the actual server code is handled by another script. 03:53 khonkhortisan Kacey, you'd pull my branch, then either use the creative inventory to get the crossover, or craft two insulated wires together. 03:54 khonkhortisan VanessaE, It should be considered whether receptors/effectors could benefit from having multi_rules too 03:54 Kacey i did and it resulted in an unknown item. seems to me that you forgot to define the off state 03:54 khonkhortisan mesecons_extrawires:crossover_off 03:55 khonkhortisan I haven't seen it create an unknown item 03:55 Kacey oops! i cloned the wrong branch 03:56 khonkhortisan There's a way to pull a branch from a different repo than the main one you're using 03:57 Kacey not on the windows git 03:57 khonkhortisan then switch to a different git 03:58 Kacey naw im keeping windows on this computer 03:58 khonkhortisan it's not true git 03:58 Kacey windows 8 isnt that bad 03:58 Kacey it works for me 03:59 khonkhortisan If your git client can't do what my git client can do, get a different git client. Keep your os. 03:59 Kacey i got this client from git directly 03:59 Kacey straight from github 03:59 Menche github != git 04:00 Menche github uses git, they didn't make it 04:00 Kacey except it is run from libgit2 so... 04:00 khonkhortisan github has their own git client 04:00 Menche the *official* git for windows comes with it's own bash shell iirc 04:00 khonkhortisan bash? 04:01 khonkhortisan I didn't know I could get bash on windows 04:01 Menche yeah 04:01 Kacey no. it comes with the lib to make cmd or powershell able to use the git api 04:01 Menche or through msys from mingw 04:02 Menche from http://git-scm.com 04:02 khonkhortisan that's not a valid git command! 04:02 Menche ? 04:02 khonkhortisan git --local-branching-on-the-cheap 04:03 Menche i doubt --distributed-is-the-new-centralized is either 04:03 Menche lol 04:04 Menche i use msys when i'm in windows 04:04 Menche bash, most linux tools, it's own software management 04:04 khonkhortisan its 04:05 khonkhortisan http://www.its-not-its.info/ 04:05 * Menche isn't the only one to mix that up 04:06 khonkhortisan I have someone on another channel that refuses to change 04:06 Kacey its complicated. every situation has it's own solution 04:06 khonkhortisan ugh 04:06 Kacey :P 04:07 Menche i usually try to use correct grammar, sometimes i forget or just mistype 04:07 Menche (that comma probably should have been a semicolon) 04:07 khonkhortisan I'm not as trinke as you denke I am 04:07 * Menche has always am very well at grammars 04:08 Kacey i just dont care for apostrophes at all. waste of my time 04:08 khonkhortisan that's why its in place of it's bugs me less than it's in place of its 04:08 khonkhortisan couldn't've has two apostrophes 04:08 * Menche had to read that sentence a few times 04:09 VanessaE people writing they're/there/their or using apostrophes for plural words is what bugs me. 04:09 VanessaE makes me wanna sic Bob the Angry Flower on said people :) 04:09 Menche i don't use apostrophes for pluralization 04:09 Menche i sometimes mix up contractions and possesives 04:10 khonkhortisan word's 04:10 * Kacey always was never oay attentions on classez 04:10 Kacey pay* 04:11 Menche and then there's people (not mentioning Likwid's name) who, drop commas, all over, the place 04:11 khonkhortisan This is just like when someone sings. If they sing horibbly on purpose, you can tell they're trying to and it doesn't bug you. If they sing just barely off without trying too, it's really annoying. 04:11 Kacey heh 04:12 Kacey AND I WAS LIKE BABY, BABY, BABY OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH! 04:12 Kacey sorry adhd 04:12 khonkhortisan VE, is taht a game? 04:12 khonkhortisan I taut I taw a putty tat 04:14 VanessaE khonkhortisan: no, it's actually a comic. 04:14 VanessaE http://www.angryflower.com/aposter3.jpg 04:15 khonkhortisan I can't find cats anywhere in there 04:17 kaeza VanessaE, lol 04:17 Menche khonkhortisan, that says that possessives are a valid use for apostrophes 04:17 khonkhortisan I believe its is an exception 04:17 VanessaE correct. 04:17 VanessaE its/it's is about the only word I can think of that violates that rule. 04:17 Menche *sigh* english... 04:18 khonkhortisan An apostrophe of one's own. 04:19 Menche there's this gas station near me that uses quotation marks for emphasis 04:19 Menche drives me nuts 04:19 VanessaE Menche: oh I HATE that. 04:19 Vadtec "emphasis" 04:19 Menche "Yes" we now do smog 04:20 Menche "Please" do not park here 04:20 Menche GAH 04:20 sokomine as long as they stick to one quotation mark alone you can't complain 04:20 kahrl maybe there quoting something? 04:20 Menche quoting one word? 04:20 kaeza ... 04:20 VanessaE I wonder if that guy I read about on slashdot, the one who carries around a box full of markers and paints, still goes around correcting peoples' signs 04:20 Menche quoting "yes"? 04:20 VanessaE /kill kahrl 04:20 sokomine er, sorry, was misreading it for exclamation marks 04:20 * kaeza wonders if kahrl's comment was sarcasm 04:21 sokomine havn't seen spam with quotation marks yet 04:22 khonkhortisan maybe they're quoting something? 04:22 Menche i don't think you have to quote "yes" 04:22 kahrl khonkhortisan: no, its their 04:22 khonkhortisan huh? 04:22 khonkhortisan no it's not 04:23 Menche it is clearly "there" 04:23 khonkhortisan there (place) their (ownership) they're (contraction of "they are") 04:23 Menche 04:23 khonkhortisan now what was I going to say - oh yeah, if they correct someone's sign, and it's the same color and font, I don't see how it could be considered destruction of property 04:25 Menche not really legal, but if i witnessed them "fixing" something i wouldn't report them :P 04:25 khonkhortisan there's trespassing though 04:25 Menche i heard of them; i think they got in trouble for modifying a historical sign 04:25 Menche or something like that 04:27 khonkhortisan Something that was supposed to stay misspelled 04:28 Menche the government doesn't like apostrophes in place names 04:28 Menche saw a newspaper article about someone who wanted to name a mountain something like "andy's hill", but was changed to "andys hill" 04:29 Menche (the name may have been different) 04:29 khonkhortisan we'll just have to utf-8-encode the government, then 04:48 VanessaE bbl, bedtime 08:31 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Chocolate Pudding Day! :-D 09:02 Calinou s/chocolate/pony 09:02 Calinou what's that day anyway 10:35 Taoki Hi, I've a question about schematics. When importing one, is it possible to specify the angle? 10:36 Taoki For minetest.place_schematic(pos, schematic) 10:36 Taoki Also, what does pos represent? The center or the upper-left corner (starts from minimum X and Z)? 11:29 sfan5 hi 11:36 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:36 Taoki Hi hi 11:37 Taoki PilzAdam: How are things? Any news on that leak? 11:37 PilzAdam I just woke up 11:38 Taoki Yeah, from last night I mean. I had to leave earlier 11:38 * Taoki is sorry if being impatient 11:38 Taoki And BRB 11:50 Taoki back 11:53 Taoki Anyone knows what probability_list must be like for minetest.create_schematic? If I use { { x = 1, y = 2, z = 3}, 0 } like it says (0 because I want to ignore some nodes when creating the scmehatic) minetest even crashes 11:59 Taoki "probability_list is an array of tables containing two fields, pos and prob." - That's what I'm trying, but it crashes 12:06 dachary what does "creative mode" mean in minetest ? 12:06 Taoki It seems to no longer crash if I use { x = 1, y = 2, z = 3, -1 } 12:09 PilzAdam dachary, why dont you simple try it? 12:09 dachary well, I did 12:09 dachary and I don't see it ? 12:09 PilzAdam what minetest version? 12:09 dachary I mean ... i can build etc. 12:09 dachary 0.4.7 12:09 dachary but what's special about creative mode ? 12:09 PilzAdam you have unlimited nodes, a list of all nodes in your inventory and you can break every node with your hand 12:10 dachary oh 12:10 dachary a list of all nodes in my inventory ? 12:11 PilzAdam like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/83/Minetest_creative_mode_.png 12:11 sfan5 oh damnit 12:11 sfan5 you were faster :/ 12:12 dachary :-) 12:12 dachary oh 12:13 * dachary trying again 13:03 arsdragonfly hell 13:04 arsdragonfly Is it right to mine mese BLOCKS with a steel pickaxe? 13:04 VanessaE yup 13:04 arsdragonfly I found some of them when the server was shutting down 13:05 arsdragonfly I mined 3 of them, nothing appeared in my inventory, then the game froze :-( 13:46 sfan5 arsdragonfly: it not the game that freezes, just the mouse 13:46 sfan5 alsom 13:46 sfan5 *also: if a server shuts down you wont get disconnected 14:23 harrison free as in beer 14:25 PilzAdam harrison has free beer? 14:25 harrison gpl4lyfe 14:26 harrison free elleko 15:53 OldCoder News: Some crashes in my worlds recently were due to the irc mod. It does not work on the new server. I will ask kaeza for help. 15:54 OldCoder News: I offer the community high-end servers. 32GB RAM and 8 cores. I'll update to current MT and run more worlds more reliably. But I'll need help learning things again. 15:55 OldCoder ruskie, sfan5, Taoki, thexyz, Calinou ^ 15:55 Calinou 8 amd cores or 8 intel cores? :P 15:55 OldCoder I don't remember and will find out 15:55 sfan5 :D 15:55 OldCoder But it seems fast 15:55 Calinou cat /proc/cpuinfo 15:55 OldCoder All right One moment 15:56 OldCoder vendor_id : GenuineIntel 15:56 OldCoder model name : Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5410 @ 2.33GHz 15:56 OldCoder cpu MHz : 1999.000 15:56 OldCoder cache size : 6144 KB 15:57 OldCoder bogomips : 4667.18 15:57 OldCoder Seems O.K. 15:57 OldCoder Mem[|||||| 515/32243MB] 15:57 OldCoder That much RAM should last a while 16:01 OldCoder Zeg9, comments are for you too ^ 16:01 sfan5 OldCoder: could I run MinetestBot on it 16:02 OldCoder Possibly. One step at a time. I request patience. Putting things back together after a year. 16:02 Calinou OldCoder: bi-CPU or single CPU? :P 16:02 OldCoder Calinou, explain please and thank you 16:02 Zeg9 OldCoder: btw, could you host Zegaton II when it will be ready? 16:02 OldCoder Zeg9, Yes 16:03 * OldCoder is shutting down worlds for brief inspection 16:03 Calinou OldCoder: do you have a single CPU or a dual CPU machine? 16:03 OldCoder Calinou, Do you mean the laptop I am on? Or the server? 16:03 Calinou I doubt you would have single CPU, since an octacore xeon costs 3500€ or so 16:04 sfan5 OldCoder: i think he means the server 16:04 Calinou the server 16:04 Calinou intel doesn't even make mobile hexacores :P 16:04 OldCoder Calinou, sfan5 what should I check? 16:04 OldCoder There are photos on my blog... but probably somewhere in /proc or /sys 16:05 * OldCoder is probably going to revert to June 22 because there have been multiple crashes since then... best to avoid corruption 16:06 Calinou fuc 16:06 Calinou I just googled "Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5410" 16:06 OldCoder And? 16:06 OldCoder Good or bad? 16:07 OldCoder Inquiring minds want to know :P 16:07 Calinou OldCoder: it is a quad core 16:07 Calinou so you are bi-CPU 16:07 OldCoder Is this inadequate? 16:07 Calinou OldCoder: googling is bad, startpaging is good 16:07 Calinou no 16:07 Calinou just different 16:07 OldCoder Is this good? 16:07 OldCoder Calinou, startpage point noted 16:07 * OldCoder is transferring 130622 worlds to the new server 16:08 OldCoder Calinou, quad core with eight CPUs then? 16:08 * OldCoder is distracted and probably missing details 16:11 Calinou OldCoder: no, you have two quad core CPUs on the same mobo 16:11 Calinou likely 16:11 Calinou the core 2 gen does not use hyoerthreading (does it, in the server area?) 16:11 Calinou hyper* 16:11 OldCoder Ah 16:12 Calinou Intel® Hyper-Threading Technology No 16:12 Calinou nope 16:12 OldCoder Very well thank you 16:12 OldCoder As long as it works 16:12 Calinou have to go, bye 16:13 OldCoder Hmm. wget from new server is 10X faster than scp to new server. 16:14 OldCoder mrtux, wb 16:14 mrtux k 16:14 mrtux internet being crap again 16:14 sfan5 OldCoder: random info: MinetestBot requires at least python 2.6 and python-setuptools with "feedparser" installed to fully function 16:15 OldCoder sfan5, that is fine 16:15 harrison i am unimpressed with irc today and yesterday. very sluggish -- not the network this time, but the people. 16:15 OldCoder New server should stabilize over the next month. There is one concern about a Python bot. I can't seem to start mine if... 16:15 sfan5 I may also add a !git pull command so I can instruct MinetestBot to pull from git://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules 16:15 OldCoder harrison, hi 16:15 harrison oh, drat, i know i know you 16:16 OldCoder sfan5, readline code fails if my Python bot is started from /etc/rc.local 16:16 harrison i mean, we have chatted before 16:16 mrtux harrison: yes i agree 16:16 harrison but i don't remember if it was in this channel OldCoder 16:16 OldCoder yes we have drat chat that is off the bat hi harrison 16:16 OldCoder harrison, it was in PM 16:17 OldCoder sfan5, as there is no tty... so my bot needs tweaking 16:17 harrison is there not something a bit strange in this: that MineTest uses lua and Minetestbot uses python? 16:17 harrison free elleko 16:17 OldCoder harrison, it seems O.K. 16:18 harrison free snowden 16:18 Zeg9 MineTest and Minetestbot are separate projects :p 16:18 harrison free weev 16:18 Zeg9 in hedgewars they even use Pascal, Haskell, Lua and C++ in the same software 16:18 harrison all right. let me play the devil's advocate again and ask this: 16:19 harrison Wouldn't it be better to use only one language for the whole thing, rather than even 2 such as C++ and lua? 16:20 Jordach sunofabitch 16:20 harrison We should ask why we think we need scripting languages 16:20 Jordach harrison, because its easier than re-compliing 16:20 harrison for instance, consider second life 16:20 Jordach http://cuddlebuggery.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Picard-Facepalm.jpg 16:20 harrison the client uses C++ (in most cases) 16:21 OldCoder Is there really such a thing as a scripting language? 16:21 harrison the inworld scripting uses LSL (or other Mono langs) 16:21 * OldCoder is resting... back in a few minutes 16:23 harrison Jordach -- good answer! One reason is that a scripting language has no (visible) compilation stage 16:23 Jordach ffs - this milkshake ring pull is pissing me off 16:23 harrison and that, since it is separate from the statically compiled code of the client 16:24 harrison (the client must be statically compiled for speed) 16:24 harrison we can write a script and run it while the client is running 16:25 harrison What if we could use the statically compiled main language as the scripting language? 16:25 harrison Two uses, one language 16:25 harrison So that bits of code could be compiled as scripts 16:26 harrison and introjected into the client 16:26 harrison to run at compiled speed 16:28 Zeg9 C++ takes a little time to compiel (only for big files :p) 16:28 Zeg9 but on non-speedy machines (especially - the single core ones)... 16:29 Jordach fuck you and your hatred for pentium 4s 16:30 Jordach most business computers still use em 16:31 Zeg9 :p 16:31 Jordach and yet, microsoft wants them dead 16:31 Jordach most of em cant run 8 16:31 Jordach mine can :> 16:35 OldCoder Back 16:36 Zeg9 Wb 16:36 OldCoder ty 16:50 Kacey good morning! 16:53 Zeg9 Hi 17:06 Jordach tch, vanessa isnt here 17:09 harrison Compilation time is surely not the issue! 17:09 harrison I spoke of the compilation of code fragments at runtime 17:10 harrison Now, that this would be difficult to do using C++ : I am prepared to believe it 17:10 Zeg9 ^that 17:11 harrison For a film demonstrating the technique using a proper language, view this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOocN1BKjh0 17:13 harrison the "scripting" fragments implement raytrace shaders and that code runs natively 17:13 harrison it's not a "dynamic language" 17:13 harrison supposedly 17:14 harrison in fact this experiment showed me that a proper static language can do dynamic things 17:15 harrison if i can do this using oberon, imagine what a truly gifted coder could accomplish 17:15 Kacey hey does anyone want to help make a rp2 type mod? 17:37 Kacey bbl 17:44 kaeza greetings 18:11 iqualfragile prepare for loads of german ubuntu users http://planet.ubuntuusers.de/#article_0 18:17 PilzAdam iqualfragile, \o/ 18:18 iqualfragile but the blogpost is not realy accurate… 18:19 sfan5 iqualfragile: yay 18:21 PilzAdam iqualfragile, strange that they mention mods when they have 0.3 in their repos... 18:25 iqualfragile well, he mentions that you can download the new version 18:26 iqualfragile not everybody can use arch :) 18:26 Jordach harch-linux 18:29 frogcrush iqualfragile: What? Not everybody can use Arch? 18:30 iqualfragile i guess so 18:30 iqualfragile otherwise everybody would be 18:30 frogcrush My only reasons not to use arch are school, and Visual Studio 18:30 frogcrush School uses GoToMeeting 18:31 frogcrush Visual Studio is amazing 18:31 Jordach i agree with Visual Studio 18:31 Jordach EXCEPT for the mangling of C++ 18:38 diemartin old topic bump: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=96668#p96668 18:49 Jordach anyways, im creating my own game for minetest 18:49 Jordach anything you know about minetest_game? forget it. 18:53 Jordach (it also breaks compatibility with all minetest_game worlds) 18:59 PilzAdam Jordach, challenge: Make a video using blender of the "This is sparta!" scene with Sam kicking Steve off a cliff; and s/madness/Minecraft/ s/Sparta/Minetest 18:59 Kacey our character is named Sam? 18:59 PilzAdam Kacey, no 19:00 Jordach PilzAdam, unfortunately i cant clone ENTIRE models + armature 19:00 Kacey aah i like george better for a name. 19:00 Jordach ew 19:00 PilzAdam Jordach, and that means? 19:00 Jordach Kacey, you forget that the player is unisex 19:00 Kacey jorge? 19:00 * Jordach slaps john_minetest with Sam 19:00 Kacey johnita! 19:00 Jordach brb 19:00 Jordach slapping john_minetest with sam render 19:01 * john_minetest slapping Jordach with creepy beardy man render 19:04 Kacey O.o 19:06 PilzAdam john_minetest, yes, thats why he chose that name 19:07 PilzAdam its still named character.png 19:10 Kacey charlie shall be his name! 19:10 PilzAdam I know a dog named Charlie 19:12 Kacey see i have a unisex nickname 19:12 Kacey Kacey is both a male and female name 19:12 PilzAdam john_minetest, btw, I am a member of the German Physicist Society for one year for free because of the 15 points I wrote in the Physik LK :D 19:13 Jordach the fight is over. i decided the name for skin as i drew it: 19:13 Jordach *loads commit* 19:13 PilzAdam character.png 19:13 Jordach thats a filename 19:14 Jordach by that logic, steve is char.png 19:14 Calinou ^ 19:14 Calinou \o/ debate on player name 19:14 Kacey i say charlie 19:15 Kacey or Van. just for VanessaE 19:15 PilzAdam I say name it "Rainbow Dash" and fight with all the MLP fanboys ;-) 19:16 Jordach john_minetest, http://i.imgur.com/Vr0u6LJ.png 19:16 Calinou do that, but you will need to reskin it 19:17 Jordach suck my left hook, biatch 19:17 Calinou Jordach, replace the orange guy with minecraft character 19:17 Calinou would be funnier :P 19:17 Jordach hold on 19:17 Jordach nope. dont have the skin at, 19:17 Jordach atm* 19:17 Jordach http://cuddlebuggery.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/Picard-Facepalm.jpg 19:17 PilzAdam Jordach, y u not create that video I requested? 19:18 frogcrush He went on a date? 19:18 Jordach PilzAdam, i suck at video making in blender 19:18 Jordach i could make two films and have one with alpha 19:19 * PilzAdam has 1.2 too 19:19 PilzAdam got an book for that 19:19 PilzAdam (and also a book from the DPG) 19:19 Calinou ITT: pinterest germany edition 19:20 iqualfragile Jordach: http://minecraft.net/images/char.png 19:20 Calinou PilzAdam, don't you have "Increasing your wifi range with a unicorn - a practical guide" book too? :) 19:21 khonkhortisan unihorn? 19:21 Jordach Taoki, just seen your latest work 19:22 Kacey khonkhortisan, i gave up on your crossing code. i will wait for it to be pushed to mesecons master git 19:22 Jordach jesus fucking christ 19:22 Taoki Jordach: The structures? 19:22 Jordach nono 19:22 Jordach youtube + bledner 19:22 Jordach blender 19:22 Taoki aaa 19:22 Taoki ok :P 19:22 khonkhortisan huh. What was wrong with it, just an unregistered node? 19:22 PilzAdam Taoki, could you do that? Jordach, challenge: Make a video using blender of the "This is sparta!" scene with Sam kicking Steve off a cliff; and s/madness/Minecraft/ s/Sparta/Minetest 19:23 Taoki PilzAdam: Doubt I'm good enough at doing that properly. Still learning Blender better 19:24 Calinou s/sam/rainbow dash 19:25 Calinou PilzAdam requested it 19:26 Jordach PilzAdam, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-vzzpEiDkM 19:26 Jordach that's whats Taoki can do with an alpha channel 19:26 Taoki Well, the animation wasn't that good as can be seen 19:31 Calinou unihorn? => what? :P 19:31 Jordach i've now replaced my /face command: http://i.imgur.com/VJZSGcB.png 19:31 khonkhortisan unicorn horn 19:32 khonkhortisan used in certain nethack circles 19:32 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/VJZSGcB.png 19:32 Jordach insta facepalm 19:32 * Calinou replaces their /brohoof command with that image 19:32 khonkhortisan nice comeback 19:32 Jordach btw, /nope: 19:32 Jordach http://24.media.tumblr.com/50681a805561cd8fd0e0391a9de24467/tumblr_menghmmr3I1qbvaf3o1_500.gif 19:33 Calinou I actually don't have /brohoof :P 19:33 Jordach this is how useful x-chat's user commands are 19:33 Jordach (well, hexchat.) 19:34 Calinou khonkhortisan, in candy box you can get an unicorn's horn for health regen in quests 19:34 Jordach Calinou, chess? 19:34 Calinou not now, in ~5 mins 19:35 Jordach alrighty 19:35 khonkhortisan in nethack a horn-o-plenty gives you food, otherwise it can heal sickness 19:35 Jordach anyone ever played age of empires 19:35 Jordach (i like the spin-off, age of mythology) 19:36 Jordach hold on 19:37 Calinou back 19:38 kaeza Jordach, played AoE 2 (+ Conquerors expansion) 19:39 Jordach i just gave Sam boobs 19:39 Calinou also give him a horn and wings 19:40 Calinou then ask micheal larabel to post on phoronix "Sam Now Has Boobs", uid313 comments: "Still no boob reclocking support" 19:40 * Jordach hands Calinou a game of chess 19:40 Calinou and BO$$ comments "boob hate starts in 3-2-1..." 19:41 Calinou Jordach, http://lichess.org/qged6ikn 19:46 iqualfragile lichless is wrong, my browser supports websockets, i have just disabled them -.- 19:51 Calinou \o/ 19:51 Calinou iqualfragile, dat paranoid 19:51 Calinou Jordach, lol @ how I gave my queen 19:51 Calinou that was a premove :P 19:52 Jordach Calinou, haha 19:52 Jordach i timed out 19:52 Jordach literally 19:52 iqualfragile yeah, i am one of those guys who reads throught all the changes… 19:58 PilzAdam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQmNOkUKW1 19:58 PilzAdam :-p 19:58 Kacey z 19:58 Kacey sv2 x/j0fugy6awp8tl,jhvs= 19:58 Kacey there was a spider on my keyboard 19:59 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQmNOkUKW1c 19:59 harrison missed a char 20:06 Calinou he did it, see 20:06 Calinou or john_minetest's wifi-unicorn probably raged and killed john_minetest 20:06 Calinou Kacey, a spider that is heavy enough to type? O_o 20:06 Calinou or did you just try to kill it, so you typed by mistake? :P 20:07 YoungDerp no i killed it 20:07 * YoungDerp waits for himself to time out 20:07 Calinou /ns ghost 20:07 PilzAdam /msg NickServ GHOST Kacey 20:08 Kacey there we go 20:08 Kacey afk 20:12 Kacey back 20:15 kaeza hi V 20:15 Calinou ...anessaE 20:15 PilzAdam ...zekowitz 20:18 VanessaE hi 20:19 Calinou VanessaE, I merged your pull request, btw 20:19 VanessaE I saw, thanks 20:19 Kacey hi VanessaE 20:20 * Kacey still has to bug uberi about the code 20:22 * sfan5 reading a paper on security for library computers: "There are a wide variety of web browsers that do the same things as IE, and some are 20:22 sfan5 significantly less vulnerable to malicious websites. The reality is, however, more people are familiar with IE than any of the others. A well patched version of IE should be plenty sufficient" 20:22 sfan5 *facepalm* 20:23 Calinou TIL you can patch IE 20:23 sfan5 http://www.giac.org/paper/gsec/4304/securing-public-access-computers-library-setting/107011 20:23 sfan5 page 18 20:24 PilzAdam sfan5, #neuland 20:24 sfan5 :D 20:24 Calinou some governments actually say users should not use IE 20:24 Calinou except the US :trollface: 20:24 sfan5 anyway, that paper is from 2005 20:25 PilzAdam Calinou, the german government doesnt even know about this thing called "internet" 20:25 sfan5 why would library computers even use windows? 20:26 sfan5 its full of security holes, there are still ways to get admin... 20:26 sfan5 and the by far worst thing: IE 20:28 sfan5 my school hired a company to make the computer work.... 20:28 kaeza sfan5, here, the UTU (one of the major universities) still used Win98 up to a few years ago ;_; 20:28 sfan5 they installed ubuntu 9.04 20:28 sfan5 kaeza: notbad.png 20:29 kaeza yes, teachnig Borland Turbo C++ 20:29 kaeza ching* 20:31 Calinou "the future is tablets!" --MS 20:31 Calinou :phoronix rolleyes: 20:31 sfan5 *cough* 20:32 sfan5 tranlated to proper english from bussiness english: "the future is overpriced Windows RT devices with pricey cool-looking flat keyboards!" --MS 20:32 Calinou of course, that's how business english works 20:32 sfan5 -s 20:33 Calinou try translating business english to proper english on ubuntu.com or canonical.com 20:33 Kacey lol this reminds me of a song 20:34 Kacey Epic Rap Battles of History: Steve Jobs Vs Bill Gates 20:34 Kacey youtube it 20:34 * sfan5 saw it 20:34 Calinou old news 20:35 PilzAdam Kacey, everyone in this channel has watched it over 600 thousand times 20:35 Calinou Jordach will probably make Epic Rap Battles of History: Sam Vs Rainbow Dash 20:35 PilzAdam (and nobody else) 20:35 Kacey aaw 20:37 VanessaE never seen it (don't wanna, either. I hate rap) 20:38 Kacey it is funny 20:39 BrandonReese Oh I hate rap, but I love epic rap battles of history 20:40 PilzAdam ^ 21:07 Calinou night 21:16 Kacey http://mg.viewskew.com/submit/ 21:16 Kacey k i made a command for hexchat 21:17 Kacey http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jboot111/m/confusing/ 21:17 Kacey look at the picture! 21:17 VanessaE theh 21:17 VanessaE heh 21:18 Kacey the command for me is /confused 21:28 * arsdragonfly|pho was woken up by the rain 21:31 VanessaE bbl 21:46 Kacey Your use of the network 21:46 Kacey indicates your acceptance of this policy. 21:46 Kacey NO! i dont accept this policy! lol 21:48 * Kacey pokes Uberi 21:48 Uberi o/ 22:01 Kacey afk 22:14 PilzAdam :D 23:32 kahrl astroturfing D: https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hashtag&diff=119805258&oldid=119772966 23:42 Kacey back