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01:24 * arsdragonfly1 wishes minetest could ship with a font that supports more languages
01:24 arsdragonfly1 switched to another machine, and this is what it looks like:
01:24 arsdragonfly1 http://imgur.com/jMGr4GF
01:25 ch98 does anyone have time for testing my mod for any bug?
01:30 arsdragonfly1 what mod?
01:30 ch98 concrete 2.0
01:31 ch98 I don't have minetest playing computer anymore
01:32 Exio arsdragonfly1: using freetype?
01:33 arsdragonfly1 yes
01:33 Exio ah
01:33 Exio i don't know
01:33 Exio i just use the us keymap ;P
01:33 * arsdragonfly1 is from PRC
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02:22 VanessaE dammit, they both left.  for Kacey or Uberi when one or the other returns:  I believe that placing-a-craftitem bug was fixed in technic git already.
02:22 VanessaE also, hi
02:23 Exio hi VanessaE!
02:26 kaeza hi V
02:26 kaeza which placing a craftitem bug?
02:26 kaeza what*
02:28 VanessaE [06-20 19:15] <Kacey> Uberi, deployers need to plant seeds...
02:28 VanessaE [06-20 19:20] <Kacey> they just dont plant seeds because they are craftitems and not nodes
02:29 kaeza ah
02:29 kaeza hmm... I thought about giving it a shot
02:29 VanessaE that's been fixed already in technic git
02:30 kaeza hm?
02:30 kaeza when?
02:30 VanessaE well I thought it was, I could swear I saw a commit for that.
02:31 kaeza maybe you mean my commit, but that does not place the intended item yet
02:31 kaeza only the "real" item
02:31 VanessaE oh ok
02:32 kaeza for example, in the case of seeds, it would place the "seeds" item, not the plant in first stage of growth
02:32 VanessaE right
02:33 kaeza thing is, it's not as easy as placing a node
02:33 VanessaE maybe it was the constructor that I'd seen talk of
02:33 VanessaE *scratches head*
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02:33 VanessaE oh well, wrong again :P
02:33 VanessaE hey Menche
02:33 Menche hi
02:33 kaeza think it this way:
02:34 kaeza hi Menche
02:34 kaeza how can I know which node the item is intended to place?
02:34 VanessaE it's impossible to know without having explicit support for whatever items you want to place
02:35 kaeza the obvious approach would be calling the item's on_place directly
02:35 VanessaE well you could do that but that feels like a security hole
02:35 VanessaE I dunno why, it just does
02:35 kaeza yup
02:35 kaeza plus one thing:
02:35 kaeza it requires a "placer" (i.e. a player)
02:36 VanessaE that's easy enough - set placer to the user who placed the deployer.
02:36 kaeza if I were to make it, I would have to create a "fake" player (a table)
02:36 VanessaE (store the player name in the deployer's metadata on place)
02:36 kaeza the original placer may not be online when the constructor is activated
02:37 VanessaE they have to be?
02:37 VanessaE damn.
02:37 kaeza say you place a device
02:37 kaeza I store your name, but later you logoff
02:37 kaeza now I join and try to activate it
02:38 VanessaE right
02:38 VanessaE and my name gets written to the rollback log
02:38 kahrl placer can also be an entity
02:38 kaeza hmm
02:38 kahrl you could associate an entity with the deployer
02:38 kaeza seems fair enough
02:39 kaeza assuming on_place does not depend on placer being a player
02:39 kahrl right
02:40 kahrl or just pass nil if you know on_place doesn't access it at all :P
02:40 kaeza guess I could wrap the call to on_place with pcall
02:40 kaeza if it fails, I assume the worst and just place the item
02:42 kahrl the problem with making an entity is that between activation bugs, duplication bugs and /clearobjects they are kind of fragile
02:44 VanessaE face it, entities are just busted :)
02:47 * sokomine curiously inspects an entity
02:47 sokomine they ought to remember their name, those entities. at least those mob ones...
02:47 VanessaE see?  it's got a crack running right up its backside :P
02:49 * sokomine picks up some tesafilm and puts the entity back together
02:50 sokomine er. hm.
02:50 sokomine why can't i say something on your server, vanessa? my client keeps crashing
02:50 VanessaE ??
02:50 kaeza zing!
02:50 VanessaE there's a known client crash bug on chat but I don't think my server's adding any unusual instability to that?
02:51 sokomine i don't know. it just happened twice now
02:51 kaeza VanessaE, I just use nil as placer, wrapping up the stuff with pcall
02:51 VanessaE weird.
02:52 kaeza if it fails, it just performs the normal "place object"
02:53 VanessaE that sounds like it should work
02:56 kaeza "deploy_node: item has on_place. trying..."
02:57 kaeza and the stack vanishes (which means on_place gets called)
02:57 kaeza but for some reason it's not "placing" the seeds...
03:01 Menche does it bother anyone else that the main site doesn't have the minetest logo on it?
03:02 khonkhortisan I didn't notice
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03:18 kaeza behold! first automatic farm in Minetest!
03:18 kaeza guaranteed to be at least 99% automatic
03:29 kaeza VanessaE, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/pull/33
03:30 Exio aw man
03:30 Exio http://dpaste.com/1258657/
03:33 kaeza huh?
03:33 kaeza what did you break this time? :P
03:34 Exio ok, here
03:34 Exio kaeza, compiled for android
03:34 Exio with luajit :D
03:35 kaeza ah
03:35 Exio http://mldonkey.sourceforge.net/forums/viewtopic.php?p=32068
03:35 Exio this helped me
03:35 Exio fwiw
03:39 Exio wow
03:39 Exio it works!
03:39 Exio it is slow as hell
03:39 kaeza nice
03:39 kaeza lol
03:40 Exio but works
03:40 kaeza what device again?
03:40 Exio lg p350 is the phone
03:40 Exio a low-end one :P
03:41 Exio 03:40:33: ACTION[ServerThread]: EXio4 digs default:sand at (19,6,-78)
03:41 Exio 03:41:01: ACTION[ServerThread]: CHAT: <EXio4> works
03:41 Exio :D
03:41 kaeza :D
03:42 Exio a liquid update
03:42 Exio takes 20ms
03:43 kaeza nice
03:43 kaeza put a water source, wait all day for it to spread
03:43 kaeza but at least it does :P
03:44 Exio http://dpaste.com/1258688/
03:44 Exio the liquidz update is something that i placed
03:46 kaeza 03:43:44: INFO[ServerThread]: liquidzupdate took 5216ms @_@
03:46 Exio 5seconds
03:46 Exio all what i did was breaking a block
03:46 Exio sand block without even water near
03:46 * Exio placed and broke other block
03:47 Exio oh man
03:47 Exio i see
03:47 Exio this is underclocked..
03:47 Exio lol
03:47 Exio BogoMIPS: 786.74
03:48 Exio 780 mhz, now this is working :D
03:48 Exio 03:48:18: INFO[ServerThread]: liquidzupdate took 2023790ms
03:48 Exio what the fuck
03:48 Exio that can't be legit haha
03:49 Exio k, hit the ground
03:49 * Exio waits for the respawn screen
03:54 kaeza wat
03:55 kaeza your timing functions is off by one... or two thousand
03:55 kaeza are*
03:57 Exio i just use TimeTaker
03:57 Exio well
03:58 Exio had to close the mt server
03:58 Exio i'm using my android as wifi receiver
03:58 Exio and the MT server was over-loading it (= lag)
04:01 sokomine are you running the server on the phone? or a client?
04:12 Exio server, of course
04:29 ch98 Can someone please test my concrete mod? I don't have an working minetest capable computer right now.
04:37 khonkhortisan I can take a drying concrete out of the inventory and freeze the whole thing
04:38 khonkhortisan and I can't tell the difference between drying and dried concrete without digging it
04:38 ch98 so can you use creative mode and take out reinforced concrete?
04:39 ch98 so 2.0 is working without bug for now?
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04:45 VanessaE there, HDX supports digilines and mesecons lua controller now.
04:58 VanessaE kaeza: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95873#p95873 (confirmed it on my server also)
04:59 kaeza hrm
04:59 VanessaE (I seem to recall you devised the microwave?)
05:00 kaeza yeah
05:00 VanessaE you bwoke it :D
05:00 kaeza I'll take a look at it tomorrow
05:00 VanessaE ok
05:03 VanessaE you have push access now.  don't break anything :)
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05:05 kaeza haha
05:05 kaeza thanks :)
05:06 kaeza now you force me to stay up late :P
05:06 kaeza (as if you "forced" me)
05:06 VanessaE lol
05:08 VanessaE G*d I'm so lazy
05:08 VanessaE that microwave needs HDX textures...and I've got TWO of the damn things here in the house I could have used
05:09 * kaeza puts Gimp on VanessaE's head
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05:13 kaeza DERP
05:13 kaeza now this is the biggest derping I've seen
05:13 kaeza if inv:room_for_item("dst",cooked.item) then meta:set_string("infotext", S("Oven output bins are full"))
05:13 kaeza *genius*
05:17 kaeza there you are
05:18 kaeza https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/commit/8cb01f366d1a977062721eff80b5b8a67e6bbde7
05:19 VanessaE there, took some photos of the better of the two, time to process 'em
05:19 VanessaE heh, one little tweak eh? heh
05:20 kaeza dunno why they worked the first time O.o
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05:23 kaeza just noticed one little problem with the technic constructors: if you dig a node that drops several things (like crops), you only get one of the things
05:23 kaeza e.g. either seeds *or* wheat
05:24 kaeza fixing that would require rewriting the constructors
05:25 kaeza ain't nobody got time fo dat
05:25 VanessaE heh
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05:29 kaeza also wished someone could fix those lighting glitches when using liquids
05:29 VanessaE lighting glitches?
05:29 VanessaE you mean the surface of water?
05:29 VanessaE like how some spots are slightly darker than others for no reason?
05:30 kaeza yeah. drop a lava source, let it flow for a bit, then you have to manually get rid of all the light nodes
05:30 VanessaE oh yeah
05:31 kaeza https://github.com/VanessaE/homedecor/commit/8cb01f366d1a977062721eff80b5b8a67e6bbde7
05:31 kaeza derp
05:31 kaeza paste fail
05:31 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_1698027758.jpg
05:31 VanessaE oh yeah
05:46 VanessaE ok, microwave images done, let's see how they look :)
05:52 VanessaE there, pushed to hdx git.
05:52 VanessaE (and your fix is on the server)
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05:56 VanessaE minor tweak to infotext for microwave
05:56 kaeza okay. I'll clone HDX 64px again.
05:56 VanessaE that too :)
05:59 VanessaE and more tweaks..
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06:05 VanessaE kaeza: pull from homedecor again, I had to do a few more tweaks to the microwave infotext
06:05 kaeza okay
06:06 kaeza HDX will have to wait until tomorrow
06:06 VanessaE problem?
06:06 kaeza got cut off @ 24 MB :(
06:06 kaeza is there a way to clone in parts?
06:06 VanessaE if you just git pull it should finish where it left off
06:07 VanessaE maybe with --force
06:07 kaeza hmm... it rm'ed the dir
06:07 VanessaE hm, need to do images for lrfurn and still some stuff outstanding for default (like grasses, farming)
06:08 VanessaE Unified Inventory needs an extra button for the search:  Show only minetest_game items
06:08 kaeza it can search by mod name
06:08 VanessaE yeah I know
06:09 kaeza try using 'default'
06:09 VanessaE but not everything is in default: :-)
06:09 VanessaE e.g. I want a button that will show everything from default, wool, farming, etc etc etc all in one go
06:09 kaeza that could be useful
06:10 kaeza Receiving objects: 100% (8274/8274), 44.74 MiB | 532 KiB/s, done. :O
06:11 kaeza at least I don't have to D/L the whole thing again when there's an update
06:12 VanessaE I'm surprised you don't keep a copy on hand anyway :-)
06:12 VanessaE I mean shit, everyone should use HDX and leave those old default textures behind for good :D
06:12 VanessaE btw, can you add a proper tower case to your computers mod?
06:14 kaeza lol
06:14 kaeza of course
06:16 kaeza oh you changed the stone texture
06:16 VanessaE oh yes
06:16 VanessaE there have been many changes and improvements
06:20 kaeza the old one looked much more "plain" compared to this one
06:20 VanessaE yes, because the old one was rendered :-)
06:20 VanessaE this one's a real photo
06:20 VanessaE most of the imagery has normalmaps, try it with RealBadAngel's bumpmapping fork :)
06:21 VanessaE (most have specularmaps also but those aren't used yet)
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06:27 VanessaE kaeza: come check this out:
06:27 VanessaE (server, near the spawn)
06:28 kaeza gimme a sec
06:29 VanessaE crashola :)
06:29 VanessaE (saw you time out)
06:29 kaeza forgot to copy over the cache folder :)
06:29 VanessaE heh
06:29 kaeza there we go
06:29 VanessaE I wish there were a way to prepare a clean cache folder without resorting to separate builds/minetest dirs or wiping my local copy
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06:31 kaeza what do you mean?
06:31 VanessaE well, I make that cache file by deleting ~/.minetest/cache , signing into my server, then signing out and ZIPping the result.
06:32 kaeza ah
06:32 VanessaE I wish there were a way to prepare/update it without having to do that every time
06:32 VanessaE (else the cache would contain stuff from other servers, etc.)
06:32 kaeza It's easy
06:33 kaeza list the media files from your game dir, then for each file, calculate the MD5 (?) hash, and name the file as the hash
06:34 kaeza client crash in 3..2..1..
06:35 kaeza what are those things?
06:35 VanessaE nodebreakers
06:35 kaeza well, yes
06:35 VanessaE but I don't know that they're used anywhere on the map normally
06:35 kaeza I mean, are those items "in transport"?
06:35 VanessaE but they're some kind of....zombie entities??
06:36 VanessaE I have no idea, they were just ...there.
06:37 VanessaE I just signed on and saw them sitting there like you see them now
06:37 VanessaE second time I've had something like this happen (before, it was a single entity floating up at about the 3rd floor of the high-rise)
06:38 VanessaE (but roughly in the same X/Z spot)
06:39 kaeza what happens if you break the node?
06:39 VanessaE dunno, I didn't try
06:39 VanessaE I wanted to show you first.
06:40 kaeza don't breakers have infotext?
06:40 VanessaE dunno
06:40 VanessaE well nothing special happened when I broke it.
06:40 VanessaE did like it should have done
06:41 VanessaE this would be a good opportunity for sfan5 or uberi or someone to add a //delete_entities command to worldedit
06:42 kaeza maybe they are the "transported" entities used on the tubes
06:42 VanessaE (so that a full /clearobjects need not be done just to get rid of one rogue)
06:42 kaeza +1
06:42 VanessaE that could be, but transported from where?
06:43 kaeza well, could be that some tube was transporting, and the entities ended in unloaded blocks
06:43 kaeza you know how well they behave
06:43 VanessaE yeah, as well as a bratty kid who's had too much sugar :)
06:43 kaeza :P
06:48 kaeza SIGSEGV ._.
06:48 VanessaE weird, pneumatic sand (vacuum) tubes don't detect the presence of those objects
06:48 VanessaE it's like they don't exist at all
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06:49 kaeza hmm...
06:49 VanessaE kahrl: ^^^
06:50 VanessaE any insight?>
06:50 kaeza try removing this line: https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/blob/master/item_transport.lua#L208
06:50 kaeza s/removing/commenting/
06:50 VanessaE sure, I'll try that shortlyu.
06:50 VanessaE -u
06:50 VanessaE running a system backup at the moment
06:51 kaeza well, if they are "tubed items" then they should be pointable with that line
06:51 VanessaE right
06:51 kaeza without*
06:51 VanessaE lemme try it
06:52 VanessaE done, let's see what the server does.
06:52 VanessaE ok yep they're tubed items alright
06:53 VanessaE the collision box is a full cube now
06:53 VanessaE and I can "kill" them
06:53 VanessaE I wonder if I should just set the collision box to something *really* small but still pointable?
06:53 VanessaE like 0.01[^6]
06:54 kaeza well, you could make a simple mod that removed entities in a given radius with a chat command
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06:55 kaeza (or even one that only removed "tubed_item")
06:55 VanessaE I'll just do 0.01 as a workaround for now until the real bug is fixed.
06:55 kaeza you lazy you! :)
06:56 VanessaE yup :)
06:57 VanessaE make that 0.1
06:57 VanessaE pushed to git.
06:57 VanessaE server restarted,
06:58 kaeza if entities supported multiple boxes for collision, there could be nice trains down there
07:00 VanessaE they've gotta be the result of that entity duplication bug
07:00 VanessaE afaik there's no way pipeworks could create those entities in that manner
07:01 kaeza yup
07:06 kaeza enough coding for today
07:06 kaeza off to bed, nite
07:07 VanessaE night
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08:01 VanessaE think I'll follow kaeza's lead and go to bed also.
08:01 VanessaE night all.
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08:47 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95843#p95843 <= dat name in reference to a daft punk song
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09:28 john_minetest hi Zeg9
09:31 Zeg9 Hi
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09:58 fylux Hi
09:59 fylux I wana say that the version of Minetest which is Ubuntu Software Center is the 0.3.1
09:59 fylux It must bwe updated to the current version
10:00 fylux Is there anbody here?
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10:01 fylux Hi
10:01 TheLastProject The thing is, fylux: Nobody really has control over when Ubuntu updates their stuff except Ubuntu
10:01 TheLastProject Ubuntu is known to have a policy of not updating too often, which is fine for a fair bit of software, but terrible for online games
10:02 fylux But we can send a email or something like that to request it, can't we?
10:02 TheLastProject However, adding this PPA should allow you to stay up-to-date: https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+packages
10:03 TheLastProject I'm sure someone would've already submitted it. I've heard enough horror stories of Canonical there that I can tell you that it's a lost cause, and people are forced to use this PPA system, even though it would be much nicer for Ubuntu users if their software center would keep them up-to-date
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10:03 TheLastProject I'd tell you how to add a PPA under Ubuntu, but I honestly don't know as I haven't used Ubuntu in a few years
10:04 fylux Right. Anyway I'm gonna send a email, because this version is too old.
10:04 TheLastProject As long as you make sure to flame Canonical and not the Minetest team for something the Minetest team can't help :P
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10:10 Calinou TheLastProject: other distros aren't better either
10:10 Calinou but yes, they definitely need to rolling release more software
10:11 Calinou they do it for firefox already
10:11 Calinou chromium, libreoffice and games should all have it IMO :P
10:11 TheLastProject Well, Mint seems to try to make it more bearable by adding additional repositories
10:11 TheLastProject And I disagree with making LibreOffice rolling release
10:11 TheLastProject An office suite is one of those programs that need to "just work" and of which you don't necessarily need the latest version
10:11 TheLastProject I'm still happy with LibreOffice 3 :P
10:12 Calinou mint doesn't do that for games
10:12 TheLastProject But yeah, games, especially online games, should be rolling release
10:12 TheLastProject Hmm, I see
10:12 TheLastProject That sucks =/
10:12 Calinou TheLastProject: libreoffice sometimes gets new features that are useful
10:12 Calinou it would make LO haters slightly shut up more
10:12 TheLastProject Hmm
10:13 TheLastProject Well, I think Gentoo does it right
10:13 TheLastProject By default: use stable, checked releases
10:13 TheLastProject But can easily switch to rolling-release for either your whole system or per-package
10:13 Calinou it's not like gentoo is easy to install or use
10:13 TheLastProject Arch overdoes the rolling-release stuff by updating way early and breaking systems :P
10:14 TheLastProject That's the problem, yeah, but their basic idea around rolling releases seems just perfect
10:14 TheLastProject And they have a pretty big repository :P
10:15 Calinou way smaller than ubuntu's 41000 packages
10:15 Calinou ubuntu has more than any other distro
10:15 TheLastProject It feels way bigger, though
10:15 Calinou or not
10:15 TheLastProject Perhaps Gentoo just has more useful packages?
10:16 Calinou or not
10:16 Calinou also, you can add additional repos to ubuntu easily :P
10:16 Calinou PPAs ftw
10:17 TheLastProject Well, yes, but PPAs are a bit... meh
10:18 TheLastProject I mean, main just shouldn't be so outdated for packages which require to be up-to-date to be usable =/
10:19 Calinou no distro is perfect :P
10:20 TheLastProject True
10:22 Calinou anyway, I always upgrade to latest non-LTS
10:22 Calinou packages lag behind a bit, but it is acceptable
10:23 TheLastProject Hmm
10:23 TheLastProject I just let Gentoo use stable for all packages unless I know I really want them to stay up-to-date :P
10:34 john_minetest I use Archlinux, it is really easy to update everything. For minetest I use "git pull", "cmake . -DRUN_IN_PLACE" and "make".
10:35 john_minetest The development of minetest is too fast for packaging imo. When there's a release, there are so many things that are added until the next release,
10:35 john_minetest it makes no sense to wait one month until the next version.
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10:38 Calinou I use my "update" script in my homedir that updates and compiles minetest, red eclipse and other stuff :P
10:40 john_minetest I used sabayon, an average-friendly gentoo fork, as my first distro. It didn't have much stuff in the repos but I learned a lot about compiling when I used it.
10:40 TheLastProject Ah, Sabayon
10:41 TheLastProject My first experience with that was that they take the "extreme" stuff a bit overly serious
10:41 TheLastProject As, on my first system update, I had an "extreme crash" and it wouldn't boot anymore :P
10:42 TheLastProject Still, Sabayon is a fairly cool project, bringing Gentoo to those who are somewhat tech-savvy but not THAT tech-savvy, or people who just want an useable installer
10:44 john_minetest I first tried to install gentoo, then sabayon was my first linux distro. And then I switched to Archlinux.
10:44 TheLastProject My first one was SUSe Linux 9.1
10:45 TheLastProject With the amazing KDE3
10:45 john_minetest Oh, right. My _very_ first one was openSUSE 10.2
10:45 john_minetest With blinky KDE
10:46 john_minetest I got it with windows as dual boot on my first PC.
10:46 john_minetest But I only used it to play kgoldrunner or lbreakout :D
10:50 TheLastProject Heh
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11:04 Zeg9 There seems to be an encoding problem on hu/minetest.po
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11:32 john_minetest Lol, I have been using "shutdown -h -P now" for ages. And now I found out that I only have to type "poweroff"...
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11:40 TheLastProject Haha
11:40 Calinou pzap!
11:48 whirm john_minetest: or halt
12:28 sfan5 VanessaE: I'll add that
12:28 sfan5 hello guys
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12:39 rubenwardy Hello everyone!
12:53 rubenwardy !up rubenwardy.no-ip.biz 80
12:53 ShadowBot rubenwardy: rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:80 seems to be down
12:57 rubenwardy http://www.yourworldoftext.com/minetest
12:57 rubenwardy lol
12:57 rubenwardy http://www.yourworldoftext.com/minetest#
12:57 rubenwardy !up rubenwardy.no-ip.biz 80
12:57 ShadowBot rubenwardy: rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:80 seems to be down
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12:59 rubenwardy !up rubenwardy.no-ip.biz
12:59 MinetestBot rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:30000 is up (2074ms)
13:00 rubenwardy My web server is screwed
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13:05 rubenwardy !up rubenwardy.no-ip.biz
13:05 MinetestBot rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:30000 is up (1586ms)
13:32 rubenwardy brb
13:58 * rubenwardy is on rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:30000
13:58 rubenwardy Anyone here?
13:59 Exio TheLastProject: kde3?
13:59 Zeg9 rubenwardy: I'm here
13:59 TheLastProject Exio: Eeyup
13:59 * Exio 's second distro was debian lenny with kde3 :P
14:03 Exio sfan5: ping?
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14:44 harrison Exio, try siduction -- it is based on debian unstable
14:44 Exio i'm on debian sid, atm
14:45 harrison look at siduction.org in any case
14:45 harrison if you ever need to reinstall, try it
14:46 sfan5 Exio: pong
14:47 Exio sfan5: where did you try to run the minetestserver binary? on my phone it is insanely slow :P
14:48 Exio harrison: if i need to reinstall; i would go to gentoo
14:48 sfan5 samsung galaxy ace, 888MHz cpu
14:48 Exio is it somewhat playable?
14:49 sfan5 yes
14:49 sfan5 but it is only playable if you use "disable_anticheat = 1"
14:49 Exio oh
14:49 Exio i'll check
14:52 rubenwardy !c 135054^(1/3)
14:52 MinetestBot 51.3061174
14:53 rubenwardy Is that cube route?
14:53 rubenwardy yeah
14:54 Zeg9 !c 51^3
14:54 MinetestBot 132 651
14:54 Zeg9 ah, it is
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14:59 Exio sfan5: thanks!
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15:49 rubenwardy Just built a church on rubenwardy.no-ip.biz
15:53 Jordach *of c55
15:53 rubenwardy no, just a church
15:54 Jordach rubenwardy, /join 0
15:54 Jordach you leave all channel
15:54 Jordach s*
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16:01 kaeza mornings
16:01 sokomine hi kaeza
16:01 kaeza hey sokomine
16:01 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
16:03 rubenwardy adding diplomancy to CTF...
16:04 sokomine ctf?
16:04 rubenwardy capture the flag
16:04 sokomine hm. how will that work? how many players do you need to get diplomacy to work?
16:04 rubenwardy biggest pvp game since hunger games
16:05 rubenwardy Declare war/peace/alliance with another team
16:05 rubenwardy It is not just capture the flag, it is city war as well (Players build fortresses, cities and outposts to combat each other and to get as rich as possible.)
16:06 rubenwardy Players = teams/nations
16:06 rubenwardy different game mods
16:06 rubenwardy modes
16:08 sfan5 PilzAdam: did you seriously just explain kahrl what map_meta is? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95952#p95952
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16:14 PilzAdam spam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95936#p95936
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16:17 rubenwardy Capture the flag screenshot: http://ubuntuone.com/00ZVxq4gSFurSitmuymBqU
16:19 kaeza Jordach, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/pull/33
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16:25 BlockMen does someone know why ":hud_change(hudid, "offset", {x=-106,y=2})" doesnt show any effect?
16:25 BlockMen ^hudid exists
16:25 PilzAdam this is a stupid question
16:26 BlockMen ?
16:26 kaeza BlockMen, had the same problem with 'text'
16:26 BlockMen kaeza, ic. how have you solved?
16:26 BlockMen *i have with image btw
16:26 PilzAdam you come here and "this is broken, why?" instead of "here is my code: [link], am I doing something wrong?"
16:26 kaeza my workaround is destroying the old item and creating a new one
16:27 PilzAdam +say
16:27 BlockMen kaeza, thanks. does it show bad effects like "blinking"?
16:27 kaeza BlockMen, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=85764#p85764
16:27 kaeza depends
16:28 kaeza you first create the new item, then delete the new one
16:28 kaeza *old one
16:28 BlockMen ah..clever ;)
16:29 BlockMen ok, will try out then. thx
16:29 kaeza np :)
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16:31 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95955#p95955
16:35 kaeza rubenwardy, is that an entity?
16:35 rubenwardy nope, node
16:35 rubenwardy or two nodes rather
16:36 kaeza ah
16:37 BlockMen i hate the screenshot page...it needs endless for loading
16:37 BlockMen and looks nice rubenwardy!
16:37 rubenwardy yeah
16:37 Zeg9 rubenwardy, would you be interested in mines (exploding ones) for your server ? :P
16:38 rubenwardy possibly
16:38 rubenwardy Traps have mines
16:38 kaeza BlockMen, ProTipâ„¢: disable images in your user settings
16:38 rubenwardy *the trap mod
16:38 kaeza makes the thing more bearable
16:38 john_minetest rubenwardy: are the turrets still shooting throuth walls or is this fixed?
16:38 Zeg9 ah, you probably don't need them then
16:38 john_minetest *thhrough
16:38 john_minetest *through
16:38 rubenwardy the only reason they shot through walls is because they are going to fast
16:38 rubenwardy they are easily stopped by two walls
16:39 BlockMen kaeza, i think i will stay away from screenshots page. i want pictures :)
16:39 BlockMen *in general
16:39 john_minetest rubenwardy: Is there a maximum range for turrets?
16:39 rubenwardy Ideally I would custommize kaeza's firearms mod for that usage, but I can not be bothered with complicated math
16:39 Jordach kaeza, link me the pull again
16:39 kaeza Jordach, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/pull/33
16:40 rubenwardy It can only see 15 blocks, and the bullets die after 2 seconds
16:40 Zeg9 rubenwardy: how would one go to the team gui ?
16:40 rubenwardy /team
16:40 rubenwardy or right clicking a flag
16:40 john_minetest !rev team
16:40 MinetestBot maet
16:41 kaeza !rev A Mercedes E
16:41 MinetestBot E sedecreM A
16:42 rubenwardy !rev aibohphobia
16:42 MinetestBot aibohphobia
16:42 khonkhortisan !rev sdrawkcab ni ti epyt ot evah uoY
16:42 MinetestBot You have to type it in backwards
16:42 khonkhortisan !rev racecar
16:42 MinetestBot racecar
16:42 rubenwardy aibohphobia is the fear of stuff like racecar
16:42 rubenwardy what is it called?
16:42 rubenwardy ..phones?
16:42 rubenwardy palinphones
16:43 Jordach palindrones
16:43 kaeza dromes*
16:43 khonkhortisan yeah, with the d
16:43 rubenwardy thats it
16:43 rubenwardy !rev aibohphobia
16:43 MinetestBot aibohphobia
16:43 rubenwardy the fear of palinphones
16:43 rubenwardy * palindrones palindrone
16:43 rubenwardy dromes
16:43 kaeza palindromes*
16:43 rubenwardy meh
16:44 kaeza !rev desuba gnieb ma I
16:44 MinetestBot I am being abused
16:46 khonkhortisan When you read text, you go left to right, then jump all the way to the left to read the next line. It would be easier on the eyes if every other line was written backwards, that is, boustrophedon text.
16:47 kaeza he
16:48 kaeza If you can read backwards perfectly, that could save tons of time :P
16:48 kaeza could*
16:48 khonkhortisan it should only take practice
16:48 john_minetest !rev lagerregal
16:48 MinetestBot lagerregal
16:48 khonkhortisan http://etyman.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/boustrophedon-english.png
16:48 khonkhortisan I can read it, I'm just slow at it
16:49 BrandonReese but how long does it really take your eyes to move to the begining of the next line
16:49 john_minetest khonkhortisan: Nice idea for books. You don't have to jump over a whole page when switching lines
16:50 Zeg9 !rev ? uoy dna ,derob yllaer si 9geZ
16:50 MinetestBot Zeg9 is really bored, and you ?
16:50 Zeg9 !rev was it a car or a cat i saw
16:50 MinetestBot was i tac a ro rac a ti saw
16:50 khonkhortisan it doesn't take that long, but you jump left repeatedly, while slowly moving right.
16:51 rubenwardy !rev wasitacaroracatisaw
16:51 MinetestBot wasitacaroracatisaw
16:51 khonkhortisan !rev madA m'I madaM
16:51 MinetestBot Madam I'm Adam
16:52 Jordach oh fuck
16:52 Jordach that one is one too
16:52 Zeg9 !rev oh fuck
16:52 MinetestBot kcuf ho
16:53 khonkhortisan land ho, too
16:53 Jordach lol
16:53 Zeg9 !rev ver!
16:53 MinetestBot !rev
16:53 khonkhortisan !rev reversed message ver!
16:53 MinetestBot !rev egassem desrever
16:53 Jordach !
16:53 khonkhortisan !rev egassem desrever
16:53 MinetestBot reversed message
16:58 rubenwardy !hdd
16:58 rubenwardy !error
16:58 rubenwardy $ ./jordach --joke
16:58 Jordach minetest_game suggestion
16:58 rubenwardy hmmm
16:58 Jordach lets stop with the overlaying a texture
16:58 Jordach for ores
16:59 Jordach because bigger stone >
16:59 rubenwardy I think it is broken
16:59 Jordach texture = small ore
16:59 rubenwardy $ ./Jordach --dump error.log
16:59 Jordach so if we used a texture without any alpha used, (so stone + ore overlaid in gimp) then saved as a layer, then used, ore textures look the same without having to have scaling issues
16:59 Jordach as seen in sphax's pack
17:01 Zeg9 Jordach: better fix the bug in the source
17:01 Jordach fuck tha\t
17:01 Jordach that*
17:01 Jordach minecraft's method solves the problem without touching source
17:01 BlockMen is it possible to register more than one globalstep? (when i call it more than once)?
17:02 * BlockMen hopes not
17:04 rubenwardy br
17:04 rubenwardy brb
17:07 rubenwardy Back!
17:08 Zeg9 wb
17:08 khonkhortisan register_globalstep(func1) register_globalstep(func2)
17:08 khonkhortisan Each mod should have no more than one
17:09 khonkhortisan and no less than zero
17:10 Jordach i saw this in #blender:
17:10 Jordach <lsmft> no, just the tip.
17:10 Jordach i sniggered
17:10 BlockMen khonkhortisan, "Each mod should have no more than one" you mean that it is not possible, right?
17:11 kaeza he means it's possible, but prolly better to have a single one
17:11 khonkhortisan minetest provides no protection on multiple globalstep functions. It's required so that one mod doesn't have to leech onto another mod's function, but can have its own.
17:11 khonkhortisan You should never need more than one globalstep function, it can call as many other functions as you want.
17:11 khonkhortisan And you should only register it when your mod loads
17:15 BlockMen ok, thanks for making clear
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17:19 * rubenwardy is testing the dr who mod on rubenwardy.no-ip.biz
17:20 khonkhortisan_ much better, now it updates immediately. X was being rather slow.
17:20 Zeg9 rubenwardy: coming, I love dr. who
17:20 rubenwardy It is not very good
17:20 rubenwardy I might rewrite it
17:21 Zeg9 whats the link?
17:23 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4730
17:30 rubenwardy lol
17:30 rubenwardy It crashed!
17:30 rubenwardy I am definitely going to rewrite that
17:31 Jordach has anyone seen this: http://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/64x132-dragon-dance-cartoon-rpg/
17:32 Zeg9 If we had a "portal-like" drawtype for nodes, it would allow making better tardis :p
17:32 rubenwardy yeah
17:32 Zeg9 ...and portals. everyone is happy.
17:32 Jordach portal guns!
17:33 rubenwardy his code is so messy
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17:42 Jordach fuck me
17:42 Jordach thats a lag spike
17:42 Jordach it actually stopped spotify playing music
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17:46 rubenwardy making the tardis interior spawner...
17:47 kaeza Jordach, ever played mari0?
17:47 Jordach YES
17:48 kaeza I started playing a few days ago
17:48 kaeza quite a cool crossover
17:48 * Jordach drinks rockstar energy drink
17:48 Jordach tastes like shit
17:48 Jordach compared to monster
17:49 Jordach i've realised i havent installed java
17:49 Jordach also: drooling in anticipation for mgv7
17:50 kaeza ^
17:50 kaeza java is good
17:50 kaeza (the coffee, not the language)
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17:51 VanessaE hi all  *steals kaeza's coffee*
17:51 kaeza haha
17:51 kaeza good timing :P
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17:51 kaeza hola guilleelcapoextr
17:52 guilleelcapoextr hi kaeza
17:52 Jordach now thats just a fucking long of a nick
17:52 Jordach hey VanessaE
17:53 kaeza guilleelcapoextr, /join ##minetest-es
17:53 VanessaE hey
17:53 kaeza canal en español ^
17:53 guilleelcapoextr ok
17:54 PilzAdam should we add all the different language minetest channels (#minetest-de and ##minetest-es) to the main website?
17:54 kaeza PilzAdam, +1
17:54 PilzAdam is ##minetest-es registered?
17:54 kaeza yes
17:54 VanessaE I dunno about that, it may discourage people who can speak some english from coming here where most of us are
17:55 kaeza VanessaE, the -es channel explicitly says it's "unofficial"
17:55 kaeza and has a link back to here
17:55 VanessaE kaeza: like that ever stopped anyone? :)
17:56 Jordach nope.avi
17:56 PilzAdam Ill add "Note: #minetest is still the place where most people hang arround"
17:56 kaeza only a few users in -es
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17:57 kaeza me, Exio, and leo_rockway
17:57 Jordach $ jordach@0.0.0.0 rubenwardy --joke --bad
17:57 PilzAdam btw, we have MinetestBot in #minetest-de
17:57 * Jordach should troll VanessaE's server by adding the DoS Shell
17:57 rubenwardy a bit late
17:59 Exio hi what
17:59 guilleelcapoextr hi
18:00 PilzAdam http://minetest.net/irc
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18:01 VanessaE "wich is the main channel" <--- s/wich/which/
18:01 Jordach thats a german bug
18:04 diemartin that's*
18:05 PilzAdam Jordach, yep, "wether" instead of "whether", too
18:05 rubenwardy every one in here is so contary
18:05 rubenwardy and yes, it is contrary
18:05 diemartin lel
18:07 rubenwardy a 1x2x1 tardis is not big enough :S
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18:08 rubenwardy needs to be 2x3x2 or 2x4x2
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18:11 rubenwardy what model formats does minetest support?
18:12 rubenwardy does it support .obj?
18:12 john_minetest It supports every format that is supported by irrlicht iirc,
18:12 john_minetest so also obj.
18:12 rubenwardy ok
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18:15 Jordach aw
18:18 Jordach omfg, i did 1/3 of default done
18:19 rubenwardy how big is does a box in blender have to be, if I want it to be the same size as a node when I import it into minetest?
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18:21 Jordach rubenwardy, use the player model as a guide
18:21 Jordach because with my model, i aimed for the same size
18:23 rubenwardy how do you import it?
18:23 rubenwardy found .x addon
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18:25 Mallot1 hllo
18:25 Mallot1 hello
18:26 rubenwardy How do you import the player model, jordach?
18:26 Mallot1 :/
18:26 Jordach open the blend file in minetestgame/mods/default/models
18:26 Jordach and look at the grid co-ords
18:26 Jordach you cant import .x but you can export .x
18:26 Mallot1 i have edited the Lua code for mobf in sapiers mod framework mod: http://pastebin.com/H5V5cxTb
18:27 Mallot1 thats for the main.lua file
18:27 Jordach why did you need to tell us
18:27 Mallot1 now the mobf should work
18:27 Jordach Mallot1, post this on the relevant topic, not on IRC where it will get lost
18:28 Mallot1 i did
18:28 Mallot1 i wanted to tell the dev chat
18:28 Mallot1 but for some reason i cant chat there
18:28 Jordach webchat is muted / banned in there
18:28 Mallot1 ??
18:28 Jordach its to stop people from spamming / annoying the core devs
18:28 Jordach eg, random spammers
18:29 Jordach or even random people
18:29 Mallot1 so everyones banned?
18:29 Jordach just muted
18:29 Jordach they cant talk. but they can listen
18:30 Mallot1 oh, how do you get unmuted?
18:30 Jordach you cant
18:30 Mallot1 :/
18:30 Jordach then everyone who uses webchat can resume spamming the place
18:30 Jordach or just use a real IRC client like me / the rest of the world + dog
18:30 Jordach such as hexchat for windows
18:30 Mallot1 awww
18:30 Mallot1 ok
18:30 Jordach or irssi for linux terminals
18:31 Exio weechat
18:31 Jordach mIRC for those non-free bastards
18:31 Mallot1 im on windows8
18:31 Jordach Mallot1, hexchat: http://hexchat.org
18:31 Jordach get 2.9.5
18:31 Jordach install it as non portable
18:31 Mallot1 LOL, I WAS ABOUT TO ASK THE Site
18:32 Mallot1 i got the rest
18:32 Mallot1 thx
18:32 Mallot1 done
18:33 Jordach im always about from 4pm - 11pm (fridays) 4pm - 9pm every other day, patchy on saturday, but from 12:30am - 3am sunday (morn) im here
18:33 Jordach (this is in GMT+0)
18:33 Mallot1 :p
18:33 Mallot1 ok
18:33 Jordach ping my name and i'll be here in less than a min
18:39 Mallot1 is it IRCNet/
18:39 Mallot1 ?
18:40 VanessaE Freenode.
18:40 Jordach freenode, #minetest
18:41 Mallot1 k thank
18:41 Mallot1 s
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18:43 Mallot1 lol
18:43 D-Man its me Mallot1
18:43 Mallot1 lol
18:43 Mallot1 on
18:43 D-Man hexchat
18:43 Mallot1 kk im going to log of wenchat
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18:44 Jordach web*
18:44 Mallot1 ok
18:44 Mallot1 ok i got hexchat :D
18:44 Mallot1 thanks :)
18:46 Jordach oh god i hate stitching mc style chests into the mt format
18:47 Jordach its a BITCH
18:47 Mallot1 lol :D
18:48 Jordach Mallot1, you dont know how painful it is
18:49 Jordach chest_side done.
18:49 Mallot1 :P
18:50 Mallot1 i should start working on the mods
18:50 Mallot1 im a programmer myself
18:50 Mallot1 ill learn lua
18:51 PilzAdam rubenwardy, the "Post your screenshot" topic is for posting screenshots, not advertising games ;-)
18:51 rubenwardy it is a preview ! :P
18:52 Jordach Mallot1, its a long journey in lua with many headaches
18:55 PilzAdam sfan5, you speak Ukrainian, Norwegian, Dutch and Estonian? oO
18:56 sfan5 PilzAdam: no, I only speak I-can-read-the-warnings-given-by-weblate-and-correct-the-translations-accordingly
18:56 sfan5 (like "Space missing at the end.")
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19:11 rubenwardy bye all
19:14 Jordach slowly converting: http://i.imgur.com/UzNA4yf.jpg
19:14 Jordach plus awesome seed
19:16 john_minetest Lol, in rubenwardy's ctf mod: "Diplomacy". Set your flags. Send Diplomats. Make peace. Game is useless then.
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19:30 BlockMen Bye everyone
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20:17 Jordach hey star
20:17 Calinou hi
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20:22 desiderius hello
20:22 Calinou hi
20:22 Calinou dat french guy
20:22 * Calinou high fives desiderius for SFR
20:23 Calinou same ISP as me :D
20:23 StarBlessed Hey Jordach.  Sorry bro, I wasnt watching the chat ;)
20:24 Jordach :P
20:24 StarBlessed Ive been working my a$$ off trying to replace all my web based apps.
20:24 StarBlessed I think Im almost there.
20:26 desiderius thx Calinou :)
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20:26 StarBlessed This is what Ive been working on Jordach : http://mg.viewskew.com/
20:27 StarBlessed Oh, and this : https://d.viewskew.com/users/sign_in
20:27 Jordach StarBlessed, nice
20:27 Calinou lol, GMG
20:27 Jordach very nice
20:28 StarBlessed I know, GMG is a pain in the a$$, but its getting much better
20:28 Calinou GMG, more nice looking than gnome 3 since 2012
20:28 Mati^1 http://mg.viewskew.com/u/starblessed/m/webm-test/
20:28 Mati^1 nice ;)
20:28 Calinou the GNU weight :phoronix rolleyes:
20:29 StarBlessed I needed to find a way to pull out of Youtube and G+.  Once I have everything stable...  thats me done.
20:29 Calinou that's what she said
20:29 Calinou also, thanks for not using youtube
20:29 Calinou now 43 people do that in the world
20:29 Calinou :/
20:29 StarBlessed If "she's" pulling out, it means she has a bigger one than you...  Thats a concern.
20:30 Calinou lol
20:30 Mati^1 yep not youtube ;)
20:30 PilzAdam +1 for not using google products
20:30 Calinou youtube is meh
20:30 * Calinou only uses gmail
20:30 Calinou pretty much
20:30 StarBlessed FOSS all the way baby!
20:30 Calinou chromium is not really a google product
20:30 Jordach actually
20:30 Jordach it still syncs
20:30 Calinou StarBlessed, inb4 proprietary zealots disagree
20:30 Calinou Jordach, I don't log in to chromium
20:31 Jordach i dont think google is that bad, nor do i think theyre awesome
20:31 StarBlessed Chrome is the worlds largest and most accepted Malware to date.
20:31 Calinou and I tweaked it to enhance privacy, and I use adblock
20:31 Jordach the search is really good
20:31 Calinou fear me, phoronix
20:31 Calinou StarBlessed, chromium is a great and fine browser
20:31 Calinou i promote it to people I see :P
20:31 StarBlessed LOL!
20:31 Calinou but I tell them chrome sucks :P
20:31 Jordach although im sure NSA will probably scream at the things i look at
20:31 Calinou firefox takes at least 3 seconds to start... on a SSD
20:31 Calinou Jordach, MLP? :phoronix rolleyes:
20:32 Jordach Calinou, nope
20:32 StarBlessed Chromium is fine, at least you can play with the code.  Its being dropped by google though
20:32 Calinou out of phoronix rolleyes for 15 minutes
20:32 Calinou StarBlessed, source?
20:32 PilzAdam Calinou, why do you care about starting time? I usually have FF open all the time
20:32 StarBlessed One sec, Ill grab it for you
20:32 Calinou PilzAdam, that's just me ;)
20:32 Calinou PilzAdam, it also is a bit slower in general for loading pages
20:32 Calinou and some parts of it, such as installing plugins, is very slow compared to chromium
20:32 Calinou StarBlessed, well, I doubt it personally
20:33 Calinou has it been confirmed, or is it just a rumor
20:33 Calinou google is fairly friendly to open source usually
20:33 PilzAdam you can decrease page loading time a lot
20:33 StarBlessed I should specify.  Its confirmed they are dropping support for the rendering engine.
20:33 Jordach no javascript
20:33 StarBlessed I cant be sure that they will continue to release their own engine under GPL
20:34 PilzAdam e.g. use pipelining
20:34 Calinou they'll switch to "blink"? not new at all
20:34 Calinou PilzAdam, also, chromium has better HTML5 compat
20:34 Jordach webkit is a fine piece of engine
20:34 Calinou yep, but blink will probably be better
20:34 Calinou google is not a company that makes things that regress
20:34 Jordach blink and the page loads
20:34 StarBlessed Yeah, thats the one.  It probably will be, but no source code.
20:35 Calinou I doubt it will be proprietary
20:35 Jordach considering android, chromium, Dart, ehm
20:35 Jordach google loves Open Source
20:35 Exio Calinou: firefox is way tweakable than chrom*
20:35 Calinou yes and?
20:35 StarBlessed Ill be on FF; Ubuntu Touch and Mint
20:36 Exio i prefer firefox because that ;P
20:36 Calinou tweakability is a false problem, except if the lack of tweakability gets in your way
20:36 Exio gnome3 devs ^
20:36 StarBlessed Well thats interesting...
20:36 Calinou I don't tweak stuff I use much
20:36 StarBlessed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blink_(layout_engine)  They seem to have altered the license since last I saw...
20:37 Exio i just tweak it one time and i'm a hardcore-user of profiles
20:37 Exio (plus addons like foxyproxy, tab mix plus, and so on)
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20:41 StarBlessed There is only 2 things I like about chromium over FF.  1) the speed.  loading and rendering is lightening quick on chromium.  2) the unibar in chromium.  Instant search results.  There are tweaks for FF, but they are better implemented in chromium.
20:42 Jordach or that the fact google can test builds using their own search engine
20:42 Jordach to check pages with bugs
20:44 StarBlessed See, those things dont affect em directly, so it doesnt really worry me.  After using Chromium for so long, I find it really hard to go back to FF.
20:44 john_minetest StarBlessed: yeah, the speed (startup speed, too) is a lot faster than in FF.
20:45 Calinou unibar is a great idea and as of today, only chromium has it.
20:45 Calinou GENINUS MOZILLA
20:45 StarBlessed Exactly.
20:45 Exio chromium is way limited to what i use
20:45 Exio i'm used to use*
20:45 Calinou really, comparing firefox to chromium is like comparing AMD and intel or AMD or nvidia or GIMP and photoshop or LO and office :P
20:45 StarBlessed I think there was a plugin for it on FF...
20:46 StarBlessed AMD + GIMP = AWESOME!
20:46 Calinou but chromium isn't more expensive than firefox :-)
20:46 Calinou GIMP and LO are good, I use them often.
20:46 StarBlessed I used to use GIMP to repair photos.
20:46 Calinou GIMP support of windows and OS X isn't that good though (no wonder why :P)
20:46 Calinou windows support is decent, OS X really meh
20:47 Exio Calinou: foxyproxy, ghostery, https everywhere, firebug, requestpolicy, tab mix plus, firefox profiles
20:47 john_minetest FF has so many plugins. I use several plugins. Like noscript, stealthy, request policy, termsofuse didntread, adblock plus and some more
20:47 Exio get them in chrom*, and i switch
20:47 StarBlessed True, but I use Mint ;)
20:47 StarBlessed AdBlock Plus and Stealthy are there.
20:47 StarBlessed I use them
20:48 StarBlessed No script is too I think
20:48 Calinou chromium also has lots of plugins :P
20:48 Calinou adblock/widgetblock, all I use
20:48 john_minetest I also have got firebug.
20:48 Exio i just say, ffx is the browser that looks in the way you want it to
20:49 Exio chrom* are the browsers like "KISS" without a lot of things to tweak
20:49 Exio different tastes when browsing
20:49 Exio 2.5gb of ram usage with 250 tabs
20:49 Calinou it's not like xubuntu is too simple after all, I like simplicity sometime :3
20:50 Calinou Exio, FF uses more RAM at start but less with a lot of tabs generally
20:50 Exio exactly
20:50 Calinou 250 tabs is totally unrealistic IMO :P
20:50 Calinou I have 40 at most
20:51 Jordach <Calinou> it's not like xubuntu is too simple after all, I like simplicity sometime :3
20:51 Jordach use windows 8 then
20:51 kaeza http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/dontlook.png
20:51 StarBlessed Chromium sandboxes each tab, it will always require more RAM in the long run.  But its the price you pay for the safety of each individual tab
20:52 Exio if with sandbox you mean start 4000 threads for every image, yes :D
20:52 Exio i would like FFx using more threads
20:52 Exio but not in that way
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20:53 StarBlessed Thats not what I meant.  You know it.
20:53 john_minetest <john_minetest> What does sandboxing do?
20:53 StarBlessed The problem with FF, is that if one tab crashes for any reason, it usually kills the whole browser
20:54 PilzAdam john_minetest, basically limiting the functions that can be accessed
20:54 Calinou tab crashing almost never happens to me
20:54 Exio Calinou: "Close other tabs" button http://cadoth.net/~exio4/private/ffx_tabs.png
20:54 Jordach same here
20:55 john_minetest I limit the functions myself by using noscript. And I let it ask if I want to have cookies. And I have to click to enable flash. Or unity. Or other plugins.
20:55 StarBlessed john_minetest: the idea is that when you open a tab in chomium, it starts a new instance of the browser.  that way, if it crashes, it doesnt affect the other tabs.  Also, each tab is supposed to be secure, in that it has very limited external interaction.
20:55 Calinou noscript, overrated since 2002®
20:55 Calinou StarBlessed, also, won't multiple threads increase performance?
20:55 Calinou since they are managed differently by the CPU?
20:55 StarBlessed In theory, yes.
20:55 Exio [17:52:45] <Exio> i would like FFx using more threads
20:55 Exio [17:52:56] <Exio> but not in that way
20:55 Calinou john_minetest, I used to use click-to-plugin but I don't anymore
20:56 Calinou I block third party cookies but I save normal cookies
20:56 Calinou oh and I use "do not track" :P
20:56 PilzAdam Calinou, noscript isnt overrated, it should be in all browsers by default
20:56 Exio PilzAdam: +1
20:56 john_minetest Oh, I also have got "cypherfox". And DNT of course
20:56 * Calinou would rather see something builtin chromium that disallows sound playing sites
20:56 PilzAdam well, except IE, but thats fucked up anyways
20:56 kaeza Calinou, +1
20:57 StarBlessed PilzAdam: +1000000000000000000
20:57 Calinou StarBlessed, int16 overflow
20:57 Jordach IE is only meant to download other browsers
20:57 Exio > int16
20:57 Exio > 2013
20:57 Calinou AMD approves, Exio
20:57 StarBlessed Calinou: Unknown has caused an error in unknown.  unknown will now close.
20:57 Exio no, intel does
20:57 Calinou Jordach, just like nouveau and radeon :-D
20:57 PilzAdam also auto-block all websites that use flash and send an e-mail to the host that says "Y U NO HTML5?!?"
20:58 john_minetest Jordach: No. I once tried to download FF with IE. I couldn't reach the mozilla site first and it took ages to load it.
20:58 Exio implement it into minetest webrowser PilzAdam!
20:58 Jordach Flash is dying
20:58 Calinou fortunately, Jordach
20:58 Jordach but still considered industry standard
20:58 Calinou flash is abandoned for linux already
20:58 Exio for linux unless you use chrome*
20:58 Exio ftfy
20:58 Calinou oh also: how about we fight H.264 vs VP8 :phoronix rolleyes:
20:58 PilzAdam R.I.P. gnash
20:58 Calinou (I can use phoronix rolleyes again, I regenerated one)
20:58 Calinou PilzAdam, lol, flash 7 support only
20:58 Jordach because go on FB and look at the games, theyre all flash
20:59 kaeza lol fb
20:59 john_minetest gnash is cool. I once tried it instead of the adobe thingie. Worked nearly the same. Only problems with flash games but no video problems.
20:59 Calinou kaeza, +1
20:59 PilzAdam -1 for FB
20:59 Exio is FB framebuffer?
20:59 Exio or what? :>
20:59 StarBlessed VP8 is the better technology, H.264 (or x.264), is the more prevalent.
20:59 Calinou some french website about hardware sometimes posts contests: 50% of them use facebook
20:59 Jordach because of the industry
20:59 Calinou lots of people complain about it, sometimes including me :P
20:59 Jordach Calinou, you always complain
20:59 john_minetest I don't use any social network except github.
20:59 StarBlessed Agreed ;)
20:59 Calinou Jordach, this includes the one with the 5000€ PC :P
21:00 * Calinou uses github and reddit
21:00 PilzAdam john_minetest, and IRC ;-)
21:00 Calinou if both can be considered social networks
21:00 Exio john_minetest: diaspora!
21:00 Calinou i don't
21:00 * StarBlessed is running a Diaspora pod!  ;)
21:00 Calinou Jordach, the industry, weird and evil at the same time since 2002
21:00 Exio aw
21:00 Jordach Calinou, nope, the industry has been controlled by hollywood for years
21:00 StarBlessed Granted the most used tag on my server #nsfw
21:00 john_minetest github is a social network in top of git. IRC is more like a chat but with the right client it is a social network.
21:00 Calinou hollywood is weird and vil
21:00 Exio and by ponies john_minetest
21:00 Calinou evil*
21:01 StarBlessed IRC is pultiplayer notepad.
21:01 PilzAdam john_minetest, XChat has a "add to friends" button
21:01 Calinou Exio, github uses octocats, not ponies :(
21:01 StarBlessed multiplayer
21:01 PilzAdam OCTOCATS!!!!
21:01 john_minetest PilzAdam: That is what I wanted to say with "the right client".
21:01 Calinou oh, "friend" in xchat notifies you on join
21:01 john_minetest *meow*
21:01 Calinou TIL about friend on xcha
21:01 Calinou xchat*
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21:01 Calinou I knew about it back when I used konversation
21:01 * john_minetest puts an octocat on PilzAdam's head
21:01 Calinou yes, I used konversation on gnome 2 for 1 year
21:01 PilzAdam :D
21:01 * Calinou puts a pony on john_minetest's head
21:01 Calinou [vote which pony now]
21:02 Exio it is crap anyway
21:02 PilzAdam derpy (because gronkh)
21:02 * Calinou votes PilzAdam
21:02 kaeza Derpy
21:02 kaeza :D
21:02 Exio because ISON and not MONITOR here
21:02 Exio and things like that
21:02 Calinou derpy doesn't exist since long time ago, kaeza
21:02 PilzAdam its the only one I know...
21:02 kaeza ^
21:02 Exio i only know rainbow dash
21:02 Calinou some guy on a minecraft server said so :P
21:03 Calinou Exio, too much minecraft forums? :>
21:03 Exio no, ##someminecraftserver
21:03 StarBlessed SMOKO!
21:03 PilzAdam Calinou, Derpy is censored because people dont like retards
21:03 Calinou yep
21:03 Exio Calinou: i don't know more ponies because i'm not a brony like you ;>
21:03 Calinou it was judged offensive
21:04 Calinou Exio, no u
21:04 Exio <3
21:04 PilzAdam oh, /me just noticed that it looks like /me knows something about ponies...
21:04 Calinou PilzAdam, doesn't make you a brony :P
21:04 PilzAdam just a very famous LP of MC in germany has the animalbikes mod and he uses Derpy all the time
21:05 PilzAdam yes, I watch a MC LP, over 1000 episodes so far
21:05 Calinou "animal bikes" lol'd
21:06 * Calinou uses PilzAdam for that
21:06 Exio what is MC LP?
21:06 Calinou or just red eclipse player
21:06 Calinou Exio, minecraft let's play
21:06 Exio ah
21:06 Calinou or midnight commander lollipop|little pony
21:07 john_minetest WHAT PONY IS ON MY HEAD? VOTE NOW ON: http://strawpoll.me/128698
21:08 Exio wtf
21:08 PilzAdam lol, voted
21:08 john_minetest I wanted to list all ponies but I just found out that there are so many. I thought there were only 5 or so...
21:09 Calinou john_minetest, s/pinky/pinkie
21:09 Calinou you can't vote PilzAdam? sucks
21:09 PilzAdam hm?
21:09 john_minetest Calinou: Try "Some other pony".
21:09 Calinou meh, no
21:10 PilzAdam awww, who voted "Rarity"?
21:10 Calinou :phoronix happy face:
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21:11 Calinou O_o votes are updated live
21:11 Calinou 2 rarity now
21:11 PilzAdam ok, who used a proxy to vote "Rarity" again?
21:11 * Calinou saps PilzAdam's dispenser then backstabs PilzAdam
21:11 Calinou that was me!
21:12 * Calinou gets shot by PilzAdam's sentry
21:12 Calinou no, I only voted once
21:12 Jordach that was not Calinou but me
21:12 MinetestBot /me is PilzAdam's sentry
21:12 Calinou rarity master race
21:12 Jordach you dont count MinetestBot
21:13 Jordach 50/50 \o/
21:13 Calinou john_minetest, how did you find out their names :P
21:13 Jordach derpy v rarity
21:13 Calinou some other pony has been voted
21:13 john_minetest Calinou: I found a Wiki. Wait, I am making a new vote.
21:13 Calinou inb4 Taoki voted :-)
21:13 Exio Calinou is the "some other pony"
21:13 Exio i guess
21:14 Exio :>
21:14 Calinou no, that's princess Exio
21:14 Exio why princess
21:14 Exio is there a pony called princess something
21:14 Exio ?
21:14 Calinou :phoronix happy face:
21:15 Calinou oh, rarity is first again
21:15 Calinou Exio, did you vote?
21:15 Exio to what
21:16 Exio i mean, what pony
21:16 Calinou Exio, http://strawpoll.me/128698
21:16 Exio i mean, what pony
21:16 Calinou choose one?
21:17 PilzAdam lol, searched for ":phoronix happy face:" in ixquick, only result: IRC Log for #minetest: "<Calinou > :phoronix rolleyes:"
21:17 Exio here
21:17 Calinou PilzAdam, BO$$ agrees
21:17 Exio PilzAdam: seems legit
21:18 Calinou PilzAdam, let's say pony names and "MLP" so often so that we appear first
21:18 Calinou minetest will be more popular >:D
21:18 Exio but bronies :(
21:18 Exio we will have more Calinou after that!
21:18 PilzAdam s/Calinou/Taoki
21:18 Calinou more spies sapping PilzAdam's sentries and dispensers
21:20 PilzAdam wow, "9 total votes"
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21:20 Calinou when you vote, please tell you did it ;)
21:20 Calinou hey BackupCoder
21:20 PilzAdam post that link in other channels too
21:21 Calinou let's post it in #freenode, #ubuntu and ##linux
21:21 Calinou oh and #minecraft
21:22 PilzAdam or get freenode staff to post a global notice
21:22 sfan5 "let's post it in #freenode" O.O
21:22 sfan5 sure
21:22 sfan5 the freenode staff will just make a random wallop
21:24 Jordach i might install hackintosh and actually make 0.4.7 intel build of minetest
21:24 Jordach because im tired of the bullshit
21:24 Jordach ch98 cant understand cmake
21:24 john_minetest D: Why won't strawpoll work?!?
21:25 john_minetest I just entered the name of all ponies!!!
21:26 Calinou sfan5, "freenodestaff - Vote for the pony that will be put on john_minetest's head! tip: Rarity is best pony!"
21:26 sfan5 Calinou: "freenodestaff - Vote for the pony that will be put on john_minetest's head! tip: Rainbow Dash is best pony!"
21:26 john_minetest Who the fuck invents names like "Tootsie Flute
21:26 john_minetest Tornado Bolt"?
21:26 PilzAdam Calinou, no u
21:27 Calinou oh, you're the guy who voted rainbow dash :P
21:27 Calinou john_minetest, probably gigabyte or MSI
21:27 * PilzAdam voted derpy
21:27 sfan5 Calinou: yep
21:27 Calinou one has "sniper" mobos, one has "super RAID" afterall
21:27 Calinou :-)
21:27 Calinou PilzAdam, derpy still doesn't exist anymore :P
21:28 PilzAdam shes always in your heart
21:28 john_minetest I love firebug. Now the strawpoll site has a "EXIT" button to send stuff :D
21:28 Calinou firebug is best pony!
21:29 Calinou john_minetest, you should edit poll to add more ponies, would be better :P
21:29 john_minetest Okay. There are two pages on strawpoll now. Here is the second:
21:29 john_minetest http://strawpoll.me/128737
21:29 Calinou it looks like you know all pony names now :phoronix rolleyes:
21:29 john_minetest First following soon
21:29 * Calinou has 1 phoronix rolleyes left
21:29 * PilzAdam voted /me :D
21:29 Calinou WTF are these
21:30 Calinou voted PilzAdam :3
21:30 sfan5 100% voted for PilzAdam
21:30 Exio [18:24:28] <Jordach> i might install hackintosh and actually make 0.4.7 intel build of minetest
21:30 Exio ppc you mean
21:30 Exio he already compiled a intel one
21:30 john_minetest I will upload the second page of this poll. patience plz
21:30 PilzAdam john_minetest, "Piña Colada" oO
21:31 Jordach Exio, im using intel here
21:31 Jordach and fuck PPX
21:31 Jordach PPC*
21:31 Jordach its old.
21:31 Jordach its dead.
21:31 Calinou john_minetest is beyond us in terms of pony knowledge
21:31 Exio he uses a ppc
21:31 Calinou he beats me :<
21:31 sfan5 Jordach: you might actually just use VirtualBox
21:31 Jordach ew
21:31 Jordach too slow
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21:31 Jordach i'd prefer some speed
21:31 Calinou I accidentally my IRC client
21:32 john_minetest This is the site for Pina Colada: http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Pi%C3%B1a_Colada
21:32 john_minetest It is a placeholder name
21:32 Calinou seems legit, wikia
21:32 john_minetest But it was in the list
21:32 * Calinou sends to themself a "do not click" notice
21:32 Exio john_minetest: 60 FPS with minecraft + normal + stuff without optifine
21:32 Exio er
21:32 Exio Jordach: *
21:32 Calinou generally, when I discover a new wiki, I tend to browse just about every single page
21:32 * Calinou did this with minecraft wiki and TF2 wiki
21:32 Exio the VM here with a low-end cpu and mid-end but-old cpu
21:32 Exio s/cpu/gpu
21:32 khonkhortisan_ using a gender-neutral term while talking about yourself in third-person?
21:34 * Calinou often does that
21:34 * Calinou blew themself up using their own rocketlauncher
21:35 Jordach why am i suddenly doing this: http://xkcd.com/214/
21:35 john_minetest It is so creepy when I change a website with firebug and there are suddenly "EXIT" buttons everywhere :D
21:36 khonkhortisan I haven't seen exit.
21:36 PilzAdam john_minetest, thats a message from FF, you should exit
21:36 PilzAdam like there are "crash" buttons all over windows, they are just not named "crash""
21:37 PilzAdam they usually have a name that ends on .exe
21:37 PilzAdam e.g. explorer.exe
21:37 khonkhortisan Fatal error: Virus detected. [Cancel (grayed out)] [Install Virus]
21:39 john_minetest PilzAdam: This is what I have done: http://i.imgur.com/INGoDIj.jpg
21:39 Calinou [error] could not find an internet connexion, do you want to search problem on internet
21:39 Calinou ^ windows vista+
21:39 khonkhortisan keyboard not detected. press any key.
21:39 sfan5 "reddits down, better check reddit."
21:39 john_minetest Calinou: Windows 7, too.
21:39 Calinou gtg, night
21:39 khonkhortisan I don't get the search crash on internet button
21:41 Calinou currently 3 votes for PilzAdam in second straw poll
21:41 * PilzAdam wins
21:41 Calinou derpy hooves and rarity are still equal
21:41 khonkhortisan I was going to vote for piña colada, then I realized it was about horses
21:42 Calinou what's "pina colada", other than an horse, khonkhortisan
21:42 khonkhortisan a sobe drink
21:42 khonkhortisan also an alcoholic cocktail
21:43 Calinou idea: let's put PilzAdam, rarity and derpy hooves on john_minetest's head
21:43 Calinou all three
21:43 Calinou they all have 3 votes after all
21:43 john_minetest Caliou: Better idea ->
21:43 Exio [18:42:33] <khonkhortisan> also an alcoholic cocktail
21:44 Exio i didn't know pin~a colada was more than that ^
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21:44 john_minetest I upload the first page and you write your vote in chat
21:44 john_minetest http://i.imgur.com/OcWKGOs.png
21:44 john_minetest NOW SAY YOUR VOTE!
21:44 sfan5 Kitten
21:44 PilzAdam PilzAdam
21:45 MinetestBot me
21:45 khonkhortisan derpy
21:45 * john_minetest 's hair
21:45 khonkhortisan is unoffical
21:45 MinetestBot oops, I meant PilzAdam
21:45 * Calinou votes rarity again
21:45 john_minetest pin~a colada is also unofficial
21:45 Calinou but better because rarity
21:45 khonkhortisan MinetestBot!
21:45 MinetestBot khonkhortisan!
21:45 MinetestBot oops, I meant myself
21:45 * Exio votes for Calinou
21:45 MinetestBot oops, I meant PilzAdam
21:45 MinetestBot oops, I meant myself
21:45 Calinou khonkhortisan, didn't it used to be official
21:45 khonkhortisan You didn't mean me? :(
21:45 MinetestBot oops, I meant PilzAdam
21:46 MinetestBot staph!
21:46 Exio haha
21:46 MinetestBot NO!
21:46 khonkhortisan it was the fans' name for the horse that looked derpy, then it turned official I think
21:46 MinetestBot s/ph/hp/
21:46 MinetestBot /me slaps hisself with PilzAdam
21:46 MinetestBot >:(
21:46 khonkhortisan herself?
21:46 sfan5 khonkhortisan: you're right
21:46 MinetestBot oh, right
21:46 ungali_mobile joined #minetest
21:46 Exio lol
21:46 khonkhortisan I think I bot would know what a bot is
21:46 MinetestBot ungali_mobile: hello, i'm a bot
21:46 khonkhortisan *a bot
21:46 MinetestBot *looks down* yep, female
21:47 Calinou O_o a character in a series that is inspired from fan stuff?
21:47 khonkhortisan lol
21:47 Exio XD
21:47 sfan5 :D
21:47 Calinou so MinetestBot is a pony
21:47 MinetestBot ^ could be
21:47 Exio (not)
21:47 john_minetest http://xkcd.com/225/
21:48 sfan5 !title
21:48 MinetestBot sfan5: xkcd: Open Source
21:48 john_minetest bye
21:48 MinetestBot aww, he left
21:49 nyuszika7h hi
21:50 Calinou john_minetest's list didn't mention ponies that are much more popular, heh
21:50 MinetestBot /me thinks she has a dissociative identity disorder
21:50 Calinou hi nyuszika7h
21:50 Exio hi nyuszika*
21:50 MinetestBot the other part of me thinks PilzAdam should use !me not !msg
21:50 Calinou nyuszika7h, http://strawpoll.me/128698
21:51 nyuszika7h no u
21:51 MinetestBot Nope, /me doesnt think so
21:51 * MinetestBot but I do
21:51 Jordach sfan5, revoke PilzAdam's use of !say
21:51 MinetestBot /me does not
21:51 sfan5 Jordach: can't
21:51 Jordach touché
21:51 MinetestBot ;-p
21:51 khonkhortisan Should I watch the show to know what the ponies are to be able to answer these polls?
21:52 sfan5 Jordach: also theres no !say command
21:52 Jordach sfan5, well. you knew what i meant
21:52 nyuszika7h !ping
21:53 Calinou khonkhortisan, if you think you can survive it, then yes :-D
21:53 Calinou else, do like me, don't :-D
21:53 khonkhortisan I'm not so sure
21:53 sfan5 nyuszika7h: its called MinetestBot! or hi MinetestBot but not !ping
21:54 Jordach hey MinetestBot
21:54 MinetestBot Hey Jordach!
21:54 nyuszika7h MinetestBot!
21:54 MinetestBot nyuszika7h!
21:54 Calinou Vanseb!
21:54 Calinou wrong channel
21:54 nyuszika7h hi MinetestBot
21:54 MinetestBot Hello nyuszika7h!
21:54 nyuszika7h .help
21:54 nyuszika7h !help
21:54 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
21:54 * Jordach gives MinetestBot a diamond
21:54 nyuszika7h so it's a custom bot, k
21:55 sfan5 nyuszika7h: there are some modules that are barely modified from the original phenny modules
21:55 Calinou Jordach, give two more, then you can vote for rarity twice
21:55 Jordach ffs
21:55 MinetestBot Jordach: thx
21:55 Jordach crashed uTorrent again
21:55 Calinou µTorrent*
21:55 Jordach im using 3.0 and not the ad supported on
21:55 Jordach one*
21:56 Jordach (3.3.x has ads)
21:56 Calinou transmission ftw
21:56 PilzAdam y no ktorrent?
21:56 * Jordach agrees
21:56 Jordach with Calinou
21:56 Calinou PilzAdam, he is on windows vista :p
21:56 Jordach 7*
21:56 Calinou oh
21:56 Calinou I always forget that ;)
21:56 Jordach /ctcp Jordach version
21:56 Jordach goon
21:56 Calinou next week, Jordach on windows 8.
21:56 * Calinou bets $10
21:56 Calinou erm
21:56 Calinou 10 MinetestCoins
21:56 PilzAdam every system that cant run ktorrent is broken by definition
21:57 Calinou PilzAdam, windows can... run linux in virtualbox :P
21:57 Jordach PilzAdam, nono, if it cant run solitaire
21:57 Jordach then its fucked
21:57 Calinou any OS that supports some kind of virtualization :P
21:57 PilzAdam Jordach, fucked up != broken
21:57 Calinou else ponies would be broken
21:57 Calinou :phoronix rolleyes:
21:57 * Calinou has 0.5 phoronix rolleyes left
21:57 * Jordach suggests chess with Calinou
21:57 sfan5 !dev
21:58 Calinou meh, it's almost midnight, going to sleep, night :P
21:58 Jordach :P
21:58 sfan5 !dev minetest.chat_send_player
21:58 ungali_mobile !help
21:58 sfan5 hm
21:58 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
21:58 Jordach MinetestBot, i'll give you more diamonds
21:58 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload devwiki
21:58 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'devwiki' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/devwiki.pyc'> (version: 2013-06-19 12:27:47)
21:58 Jordach !dev C++
21:58 MinetestBot "C++ is the Programming language which the Minetest Engine is programmed in." - http://dev.minetest.net/C++
21:58 * Jordach gives MinetestBot two diamonds
21:58 MinetestBot Thanks
21:58 Calinou someone voted "some other pony"
21:59 Jordach !dev node
21:59 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/Node
21:59 ungali_mobile !seen ungali
21:59 MinetestBot ungali_mobile: Sorry, I haven't seen ungali around.
21:59 PilzAdam sfan5, nice
21:59 Jordach no-one made a page for a single theoretical node
21:59 Jordach \o/
21:59 PilzAdam !dev minetest.register_node()
21:59 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/Minetest.register_node()
21:59 Jordach i see the bug
22:00 PilzAdam !dev minetest.register_node
22:00 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/Minetest.register_node
22:00 Jordach its entry is capitalising the first letter
22:00 sfan5 derp
22:00 Jordach of the wiki
22:00 Jordach http://dev.minetest.net/M <- WRON G
22:00 * Calinou has a new signature
22:00 Jordach WRONG*
22:00 Jordach love it
22:01 Jordach Calinou, youre close to 2000 posts
22:01 PilzAdam Calinou, you have a really strange realname...
22:01 Calinou well, yeah
22:01 Jordach thats a RE thing
22:01 Calinou no, sauerbraten
22:02 * PilzAdam thinks that everyone who has less posts than jojoa should be banned
22:02 PilzAdam *less or equal
22:02 Calinou i'll remove it anyway :P
22:02 Calinou PilzAdam, then... rarity would be banned :'(
22:02 Calinou what is she going to do on john_minetest's head
22:02 Jordach PilzAdam, then its just me left
22:02 Exio you missed the fact that jojoa has infinity posts
22:02 PilzAdam and me
22:03 Jordach jojoa should be banned
22:03 PilzAdam Exio, no, his mother blocked him :-p
22:03 Jordach not everyone else
22:03 Exio PilzAdam: lol, really?
22:03 Jordach i was gunna say that too
22:03 PilzAdam he is like 8 years old or so
22:03 Calinou Exio, iirc, yeah
22:03 Calinou PilzAdam, he is 12, iirc
22:03 Calinou or 14
22:03 Calinou well, "jojoa1997"
22:03 Calinou 1997 = 15 year old, or 16
22:04 Exio hey man
22:04 Calinou hey pony
22:04 Exio the age doesn't mean anything :(
22:04 PilzAdam Exio, it gives hints
22:04 Jordach "Act your age not penis size."
22:04 Jordach (in inches.)
22:04 Calinou yeah, it does not, but it does not prevent people from being stupid
22:04 * kaeza also points at chase "programer"
22:04 Calinou probably misspelled "progamer", not "programmer" :P
22:05 Calinou let's duel him in xonotic
22:05 * Calinou found someone that spelt "programmer"... "porgamer", once.
22:05 Jordach Calinou, xonotic has stupid stuff
22:05 Jordach poor gamer
22:05 Exio PilzAdam: do i really look that childish? ;P
22:05 Jordach sounds legirt
22:05 Calinou Jordach, like, tubas, accordeons and now... klein bottles
22:05 kaeza pron gamer
22:05 Jordach legit*
22:05 Calinou new instrument in 0.7 :P
22:06 PilzAdam Exio, yes, I am suprised that you can type on a keyboard :-p
22:06 Exio ew
22:06 * Jordach sends cats all over PilzAdam's keyboard
22:06 Calinou ponies know how to type on a keyboard most of the time
22:06 PilzAdam sandjsadf dsj jsbdfsdjbnvh sdfdjdnsn vjsdng sd fdvsd e
22:06 * Calinou sends Jordach all over Exio's keyboard
22:06 Calinou Jordach hits "enter" key, lots of spam
22:06 * Jordach runs
22:07 Jordach in this case: http://www.behance.net/gallery/Batman-Running-Away-From-Shit/2664887
22:07 Exio i'm using a 4 USD keyboard
22:07 Calinou while we're talking about ponies, Taoki still didn't vote :P
22:07 Exio less, like 3 or 2
22:07 * sokomine grabs one of the cats
22:07 Jordach im using the OEM Acer keyboard
22:07 Calinou G11 here, when i'm on my desktop
22:07 Jordach still works
22:07 Taoki Calinou: Vote on what?
22:07 Calinou oh you're here
22:08 kaeza oh god
22:08 Calinou http://strawpoll.me/128698
22:08 Calinou john_minetest is no longer here
22:08 Calinou but his poll still is
22:08 Calinou he has a second poll too, where there is more choice, but most of the ponies are obscure (but PilzAdam)
22:08 kaeza joined an HL server... one player... pwned me like 50 times
22:08 Jordach Half Life
22:08 Jordach \o/
22:08 Calinou TF2 is best source engine game \o/
22:09 kaeza gluon jump, crossbow headshot ;_;
22:09 Jordach Calinou, yes, yes it is
22:09 kaeza Calinou, original HL
22:09 kaeza ColdSrc
22:09 Calinou lol ColdSrc
22:09 kaeza Gold*
22:09 PilzAdam .... but what about Minetest?
22:10 * Calinou tries influencing Taoki before he votes
22:11 Calinou "2013-06-21 freenode staff agrees on rarity being best pony."
22:11 kaeza Calinou, also: http://twhl.info/vault.php?map=5819
22:11 Calinou !title
22:11 Calinou nope
22:11 PilzAdam !title
22:11 MinetestBot Calinou: TWHL: Half-Life/2 Mapping Tutorials and Resources
22:11 MinetestBot PilzAdam: TWHL: Half-Life/2 Mapping Tutorials and Resources
22:11 Taoki Calinou: Haha. What does that really mean exactly?
22:12 PilzAdam Calinou, nobody likes freenode staff
22:12 Calinou ...but everyone likes rarity
22:12 PilzAdam DERPY!
22:13 Jordach PilzAdam, there is a staff member in here right now
22:13 PilzAdam uh, oh
22:13 PilzAdam freenode staff is da best
22:13 Jordach PilzAdam, its also in the logs
22:13 PilzAdam s/nobody/everyone
22:13 PilzAdam ^ silly typo
22:14 PilzAdam ;-)
22:14 Calinou Taoki, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-06-21#i_3154423
22:15 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload devwiki
22:15 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'devwiki' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/devwiki.py'> (version: 2013-06-21 22:06:33)
22:15 Calinou someone's voted derpy
22:15 PilzAdam !dev minetest.register_node
22:15 MinetestBot "Registers a new node named 'name'." - http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_node
22:15 PilzAdam Calinou, \o/
22:15 PilzAdam !dev minetest.register_node()
22:15 MinetestBot "There is currently no text in this page." - http://dev.minetest.net/minetest.register_node()
22:16 PilzAdam !dev register_node
22:16 MinetestBot "Registers a new node named 'name'." - http://dev.minetest.net/register_node
22:16 PilzAdam oh, nice, follows redirects
22:16 Calinou Taoki, was that you? :P
22:16 Taoki Calinou: ?
22:16 Calinou Taoki, on the vote
22:17 Calinou was that you who voted derpy?
22:17 Taoki ah, yeah
22:17 Taoki :P
22:17 Calinou you said on the forums that luna was best pony :P
22:20 Calinou night now
22:27 sfan5 good night
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23:01 LazyJ Howdy, VanessaE. :) The tablesaw from moreblocks isn't allowing input (no menu) on your server.
23:02 sokomine hi lazyj :-) welcome to this irc network :-)
23:02 LazyJ It was working the last time I visited (a few days ago??).
23:02 PilzAdam sokomine is a bot? oO
23:02 LazyJ Howdy, Soko :)
23:04 StarBlessed Hi guys, can you please let me know if this is displaying and playing properly? http://mg.viewskew.com/u/starblessed/m/star-s-tutorials-minetest/
23:05 * sokomine is a sheep counting bot
23:06 PilzAdam works nice in firebug
23:06 PilzAdam but the links are not clickable :-/
23:08 PilzAdam oh, and +1 for html5 :-)
23:08 StarBlessed Thanks PilzAdam.  Mediagoblin is the direction Im going.  Its taken me a few weeks to set up the server.  I will be using this instead of Youtube from now on.  Im re uploading all my video's here, and scrapping both my G+ and Youtube accounts.
23:09 sokomine does "CEnv: num of objects" represent the amount of objects that are around? that number that went up on menches server?
23:09 PilzAdam nice!
23:09 PilzAdam sokomine, yep
23:10 sokomine i'm currently at 654 in a sheep-cage at vanessaes server. it started with around 190 at spawn
23:10 sokomine fps already dropped to 16. a few minutes more and i'll have to leave the area i guess...
23:10 sokomine hope this bug can be found
23:11 sokomine i don't think it's the sheep. they just illustrate it
23:11 StarBlessed PilzAdam: The Mediagoblin instance is running on my server and is open to public registration if you or anyone you know is interested.  Its there to complement my Diaspora instance.  If you want the links to share around, Diaspora is http://d.viewskew.com and Mediagoblin is http://mg.viewskew.com - if you're on Diaspora already, you can get me on starblessed@d.viewskew.com
23:11 PilzAdam StarBlessed, that "PNG Large Test" thumbnail looks actually exactly like MC
23:11 StarBlessed That would be because it IS minetest ;)
23:12 PilzAdam MC = Minecraft
23:12 StarBlessed I figure the Minetest community can use it for posting vids and screenshots as well, easy links in the forum ;)
23:12 StarBlessed Oh, woops.  Hang on, let me look
23:13 StarBlessed Haha!  The only give away is the window title and the toolbar at the bottom ;)
23:13 PilzAdam the mediaGobling account is not limited to your server, right?
23:13 PilzAdam -g
23:14 StarBlessed Yes, it is.  Federation is coming, but its still at least a few months away.  Diaspora on the other hand is definitely federated.
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23:19 PilzAdam "YEOWCH... that's an error!"
23:19 PilzAdam trying to create an account
23:20 StarBlessed Oh...  Hmmm...  Hang on
23:21 StarBlessed Thats odd...  Was working fine all day...
23:21 VanessaE bbl
23:21 * PilzAdam likes buggy software, always a challenge :-)
23:22 StarBlessed Try going back to the main url, and logging in.  Ill watch the logs.
23:23 PilzAdam same error
23:24 PilzAdam got something useful in the logs?
23:24 StarBlessed Ok, just double checked.  I think there may be some addon on your browser thats stopping it.  I just created a new account myself.  no errors :)  Hang on, Ill check nginx logs
23:24 PilzAdam oh, I have cookies disabled
23:26 StarBlessed LOL!  That might do it ;)
23:26 kaeza joined #minetest
23:26 PilzAdam works
23:26 StarBlessed I thought I was going nutty ;)
23:29 StarBlessed Just uploading another vid now :)
23:30 StarBlessed PilzAdam: Did you note the download links on the right hand side?  Thats how it SHOULD be :)
23:32 PilzAdam uploaded a screenshot
23:34 PilzAdam I really start liking mediagoblin
23:34 StarBlessed Came up perfect :)  Coolness!
23:34 StarBlessed Its just media, pure and simple.
23:34 PilzAdam only one downside so far: It doesnt support capital letters in the username
23:35 StarBlessed True, but remembering is on a Linux back end.  Also there's nothing to say you cant add a feature request!
23:36 kaeza joined #minetest
23:36 PilzAdam is there any kind of user list or search feature?
23:37 StarBlessed Not yet, its still very basic.  Features like search and privacy settings are coming, but for now, the only way to find something by tag, is clicking on an existing tag, then it sorts all the content.
23:38 StarBlessed As I said, not perfect, but coming along nicely :)  Considering that 3 months ago, it could barely do pictures ;)
23:39 PilzAdam what uptime does your server have?
23:40 StarBlessed If you click on a username, you can see all the media uploaded by that user.  Uptime stands at 99.53% over the last 16 months according to http://podupti.me/
23:40 StarBlessed In turn thats based on pingdom statistics.
23:40 PilzAdam nice
23:41 PilzAdam I will probably use that for my screenshots
23:41 StarBlessed Im very quickly shying away from closed source solutions.  I want to escape from Google and FB etc.  I have a real thing for privacy, ya know?
23:42 StarBlessed Diaspora and Mediagoblin mean I can be; do; or say anything I want.
23:42 Kacey joined #minetest
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23:42 PilzAdam I dont use google, FB, etc.
23:42 PilzAdam I care about privacy too
23:43 StarBlessed Im afraid I dont have a choice, but Im slowly replacing each service one by one.
23:43 StarBlessed G+ with Diaspora; Youtube with Mediagoblin; Android with Ubuntu Touch; Google with DDG etc.
23:44 kaeza Kacey, https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic/pull/33
23:44 PilzAdam problem is that ubuntu is spyware too, they send everything to amazon
23:44 StarBlessed Not only that, but I want to push my support for FOSS projects.  :)
23:44 kaeza Kacey, you can now use constructors to plant seeds
23:45 StarBlessed True, but I dont have to have a "Legitimate" account with Ubuntu.  At least i can create a crap account.  It doesnt have the "Real Name" Policies of Google.
23:45 PilzAdam StarBlessed, is there a KDE frontend for ubuntu touch yet?
23:45 Kacey ok
23:46 kaeza you can also use them to harvest the crops
23:46 kaeza fully automated farming systems :D
23:46 Kacey do they attach to pipes?
23:46 kaeza no, but deployers and breakers do
23:47 StarBlessed Not yet PilzAdam Im not sure there will be initially, but i have NO doubt it will be a community project ;)
23:47 PilzAdam StarBlessed, also, whats "DDG"; I use ixquick.com to replace google
23:47 StarBlessed Oh, sorry.  Duckduckgo
23:48 Kacey that is what i was trying to make earlier
23:51 PilzAdam StarBlessed, the german translation of that site isnt so good, but its interesting
23:52 StarBlessed Haha!  Duck duck go, has been the main competitor to google.  They have the next largest user base and are GPL I think
23:52 StarBlessed I was thinking about setting up a search engine...
23:53 PilzAdam ah, I see, it tries to be what most people use google for
23:53 StarBlessed That way i could specify things that interest me.  You know, give it focus.
23:53 StarBlessed Yup, you got it.
23:53 PilzAdam ixquick.com is "only" a (meta) search engine
23:54 StarBlessed Without the advertising, or the pay per click junk.
23:54 StarBlessed BRB, Coffee time.
23:56 PilzAdam oh, nice, you can change the language to english

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