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00:04 Jordach A German grammar Nazi
00:04 Jordach fun.
00:05 Jordach and ironic too
00:06 Jordach considering we won the war
00:06 Jordach :P
00:06 Jordach on grammar
00:09 Jordach feckin wifi
00:12 Jordach laggin like a draggin
00:12 PilzAdam its interesting how the word "Nazi" is widely used in the English language
00:14 Jordach it covers everything evil essentially
00:15 Jordach it also implies grammar nazi's are evil
00:15 PilzAdam I think it just plays down the real Nazis
00:16 PilzAdam sadly there are still people out there who cant use their brain and think that its good to be a Nazi
00:16 VanessaE laughing at someone for all eternity is often far worse a punishment than killing them
00:16 khonkhortisan flat earth society
00:16 Jordach trolololol
00:16 VanessaE remember, to the Nazis, that word was of particular value - so to downplay it, and thus devalue it, is to devalue the people who associated themselves with that word
00:17 Jordach are we *still* that backdated
00:17 Jordach with the flat earth believers
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00:17 Jordach ugh, its 1500 all over again
00:17 Jordach i should really have kicked the bucket 700 years ago
00:17 VanessaE Jordach: afaik that movement is a hoax.
00:17 VanessaE (flat earthers)
00:18 Jordach VanessaE, actually, the group existed, but their archives burned down
00:18 Jordach i have the article in a book
00:18 Jordach and all members fell apart
00:18 VanessaE how long ago was that?
00:18 khonkhortisan As long as this Earth is flat, the holocaust never existed!
00:18 Jordach around 1996
00:18 Jordach iirc
00:18 Jordach or was it 2006
00:19 Jordach flatearthsociety.org
00:19 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, note that you can be sued if you say in germany that the holocaust doesnt exist
00:19 PilzAdam *hasnt existed
00:19 VanessaE musta been 2006 because I hadn't heard of that "society" until some time in the 2000's
00:19 Jordach huh
00:19 VanessaE PilzAdam: good!
00:19 Jordach their forums are gone
00:19 Jordach which the link in the book must have expired
00:20 PilzAdam a link in a book?
00:20 PilzAdam its kinda ironic, isnt it?
00:20 Jordach VanessaE, the flatters had 10,000 members before the loss of the archive
00:20 Jordach now its about 3,000
00:20 VanessaE huh.
00:20 VanessaE I thought it has to be a joke.
00:20 Jordach VanessaE, there's a british show known as QI
00:20 VanessaE people really ARE that stupid
00:20 PilzAdam Jordach, I wonder, where do they set the "cut" in the world?
00:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: the cut?
00:21 Jordach PilzAdam, a 400ft wall of ice is at each end of the world
00:21 khonkhortisan I didn't know I could be sued
00:21 Jordach and the stars are as far away as san francisco to new york is
00:21 VanessaE lol
00:21 Jordach according to them
00:22 khonkhortisan the stars must teleport from end to end
00:22 Jordach technically, you could represent the world in a 2-d form
00:22 khonkhortisan Can't argue with a fool, they'll bring you down to their level and beat you with experience
00:22 Jordach khonkhortisan, falch
00:22 Jordach back your arguments up
00:23 Jordach an idiot is easily swayed with thr right info
00:23 khonkhortisan it's a joke
00:26 PilzAdam from now on I believe that the whole world is a minetest server, with an ultra HD texture pack and really good bumpmapping and light shaders
00:26 PilzAdam who is with me?
00:26 VanessaE heh
00:26 Jordach PilzAdam, HOLD THE FUCKIN LINE
00:27 VanessaE must be running on one hell of a processor to handle the ABMs and minetest.after()'s :)
00:27 Jordach this paste is old as fuck but i wrote this: http://pastebin.com/H3HGVgbz
00:28 Jordach /give Jordach default:diamond
00:28 Jordach nope.avi
00:28 PilzAdam VanessaE, just need to find a way to trigger that duplication bug on this 1€ coin
00:28 PilzAdam IIRC throw it out of the map bounds?
00:29 VanessaE no, that'll just crash the universe
00:29 VanessaE (the world is still running a really old version ;) )
00:31 Exio i hope nobody is going to reboot it :D
00:31 Jordach /shutdown
00:31 Jordach -!- Server: You do not have permission
00:32 * VanessaE wishes she were rich :-/
00:32 Jordach or the universe is running Minetest 1.0
00:32 Jordach explains why it looks so god
00:32 Jordach good*
00:32 Jordach because RBA shaders
00:33 VanessaE yeah but who's responsible for getting the map upgraded to all mesh nodes instead of cubes?
00:33 khonkhortisan I can build something in minetest, and make it go away. If I build something irl, it's harder to make it go away.
00:33 Jordach khonkhortisan, they invented lego
00:33 khonkhortisan I always run out of legos
00:33 Jordach oh god: if the world is Minetest, then LEGO is a smaller Minetest
00:34 VanessaE khonkhortisan: that's because G*d refuses to give anyone admin picks and run the world in creative mode.
00:34 Jordach and were playing Minetest withing Minetest
00:34 Jordach Admin*
00:34 VanessaE minetestception!
00:34 Jordach -g
00:34 Jordach VanessaE, refer god as the admin
00:34 VanessaE ok, the Admin then :)
00:34 PilzAdam and the devil as a grieder ;-)
00:34 Jordach it sounds better on paper
00:34 PilzAdam *griefer
00:34 Jordach no, we've seen the devil already
00:34 Jordach LM
00:34 PilzAdam awwwww
00:35 PilzAdam I thought I am the devil.... :'-(
00:35 Jordach PilzAdam, screwing with minetest_game does not constitute being the devil himself
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00:35 Jordach LM earned that through hardworking griefs
00:35 VanessaE PilzAdam: I can name some groups out there that are far worse than any anthropomorphized evil :-)
00:35 Jordach VanessaE, bdsm? /me laughs
00:35 Jordach that fits
00:36 hmmmm i run FreeBSDM
00:36 VanessaE I was thinking more like certain religious groups.
00:36 PilzAdam Jordach, but messing with minetest_game is like griefieng everyone who plays minetest
00:36 Jordach not really
00:36 Jordach people live with it
00:36 hmmmm nobody liked my funny :(
00:36 Jordach VanessaE, westboro baptist church
00:36 VanessaE I know of one based in Topeka, Kansas USA that fits the criteria quite nicely.
00:36 VanessaE EXACTLY.
00:36 * Jordach gets points
00:36 PilzAdam hmmmm, go back coding :-p
00:37 Jordach and points mean prises
00:37 Jordach hmmmm, very nice
00:37 VanessaE hmmmm: it was funny :)
00:37 Jordach hmmmm, isnt BDSM already free
00:37 hmmmm FreeBSD is the name of the operating system i use
00:37 Jordach OMFG
00:37 Jordach \o/
00:37 Jordach someone who actually uses BSD
00:37 hmmmm proller does too
00:37 VanessaE I used to back in the 4.1 days
00:38 VanessaE (or was it 4.3?)
00:38 Jordach VanessaE, Sam appeared in 0.4.4
00:38 Jordach if you remember him, then its > .4.4
00:38 hmmmm lol
00:38 VanessaE Jordach: I meant 4.1 BSD silly :)
00:38 Jordach hmmmm, yes, i went with your name
00:39 Jordach VanessaE, lol;
00:39 Jordach VanessaE, it can pull 290fps in games where linux can get 120
00:40 VanessaE sounds about right heh
00:40 Exio what can pull 290fps
00:40 Jordach dunno why BSD is like lightning
00:40 Jordach greased*
00:40 Exio something unrelated
00:40 Jordach with teflon coating
00:41 Exio minetest performance, on windows
00:41 Exio is shitty
00:41 Jordach telfon has no friction whatsoever
00:41 Jordach teflon*
00:41 Jordach its the non stick coating on pots and pans
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00:48 PilzAdam <Jordach> telfon has no friction whatsoever <- ehm
00:48 Jordach PilzAdam, well, barely any at all
00:48 Jordach compared to common material
00:48 PilzAdam even _light_ has friction
00:48 Jordach also: glass is not a slow liquid
00:48 Jordach its an amourphous solid
00:53 Jordach (and, no, churches have thicker bottom panes because the glazers of that age couldnt make perfect flat panels)
00:58 PilzAdam mod idea: quark–gluon plasma with color superconductivity for mesecons! can be found in the center of randomly spawning neutron stars at y=30000
00:59 Jordach PilzAdam, cool
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01:00 PilzAdam neutron stars have a radius of 15 km, wich means they will touch the surface if the other half is not in the map
01:00 Jordach OWCH
01:00 Jordach hot hot hot
01:01 Jordach who needs a furnace when you have a neutron star
01:01 PilzAdam at the surface the pressure is 0
01:01 Jordach cooks everything including you
01:02 Jordach anyone heard of the simulator: the powder toy>
01:03 * Menche has that
01:03 PilzAdam rule 34?
01:03 VanessaE PilzAdam get your mind out of the sewer
01:03 Menche can *not* figure out how most of the simulations on the site were made
01:03 Jordach Menche, same
01:03 PilzAdam VanessaE, its 3 AM here
01:03 PilzAdam I need to sleep
01:04 VanessaE no you don't
01:04 VanessaE you have work to do yet :)
01:04 PilzAdam ok, your right, I have to listen to that song once again
01:04 Jordach python 2.7.4 > pilzadam.sleep() = true
01:04 PilzAdam Jordach, I dont run python
01:04 Jordach fuck
01:04 VanessaE besides, it's the weekend, who goes to bed at normal hours on a weekend?
01:05 PilzAdam VanessaE, for me is "weekend" until october :D
01:05 VanessaE vacation?
01:05 PilzAdam school finished
01:05 Jordach aw fuck
01:05 VanessaE oh right, I forgot about your exams
01:05 Jordach mines still going until 20th of july
01:05 Jordach but i have trips for the rest of the year now
01:06 Jordach (my exams are done too)
01:07 PilzAdam Jordach, do you have your marks yet?
01:07 Jordach NOPE
01:07 Jordach PilzAdam, recieve
01:07 Jordach recieving them  in aug.
01:08 Jordach my family thinks i will burn the house down when im on my own
01:08 Jordach i dont even move an inch when im on my pc
01:08 Jordach i dont even have deep vein thrombosis
01:08 Jordach which is amazing considering my gut size
01:08 Jordach and how much i eat (not often)
01:09 VanessaE you do know what DVT is I assume?
01:09 PilzAdam I go into our garden 1 hour a day
01:10 Jordach fuck that
01:10 Jordach i prefer hitting the left thumbstick in and sprinting on BF3
01:10 Jordach and killing russians too
01:14 PilzAdam I really need to sleep now
01:14 PilzAdam good night everyone
01:14 VanessaE nith
01:14 VanessaE night
01:14 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/eo4WphP.jpg
01:14 Jordach cant even listen to digitally imported: http://i.imgur.com/L47zyBd.png
01:17 VanessaE "chucked a wobbly"?
01:17 Jordach its a british term for getting angry / pissed
01:17 Jordach off*
01:17 VanessaE a polite way of saying "taken a shit"> :)
01:17 Jordach yup
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01:18 Jordach heres a puppy in the meanwhile
01:18 Jordach di.fm has awesome electronic music
01:18 Jordach from chiptunes to dubstep to rave
01:18 Jordach they have it covered.
01:21 Jordach huh
01:21 Jordach dont shift click + press a icon on windows 7's taskbar: opens new instance
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01:24 Jordach i should have learned to check which window im closing by now
01:28 Jordach im definitely heading to bed now
01:28 Jordach night all
01:30 * _2cool4me4_ pokes Minetest to make everybody's taskbar light up with orange
01:31 Exio does anyone recall what was the link to some powerful arm cpu that proller posted here?
01:31 Exio or part of the link? name of the cpu? the site?
01:31 _2cool4me4_ Samsung Exynos?
01:32 Exio no
01:32 Exio http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135235611947
01:32 Exio well, it is an Exynos
01:32 Exio but not samsung :P
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02:51 ch98 can someone test if my concrete mod works?
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03:46 Kacey VanessaE, you aroud?
03:49 VanessaE sorta, what's up?
03:50 Kacey http://pastebin.com/yfFQAJkv
03:51 VanessaE um
03:51 VanessaE well firstly, 0.4.6-anything is out of date
03:51 VanessaE that aside,
03:51 VanessaE what exactly did you try to do at this moment?
03:51 VanessaE (place a tube, use the ui, ..?)
03:52 Kacey start a world
03:52 VanessaE how old is your copy of pipeworks?
03:52 Kacey i think it is because it is my copy with the in-dev mesecon tubes
03:52 VanessaE that might be
03:52 * VanessaE checks the code
03:53 VanessaE um
03:53 VanessaE your copy of pipeworks is not current - line 69 is blank.
03:54 VanessaE (just ahead of that are several tables that are created)
03:55 VanessaE (similarly, line 466 in tubes.lua isn't a dofile call, it's in the middle of several table defs)
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04:00 Kacey brb
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04:12 kaeza greetings fellow earthlings
04:12 kaeza and to those off planet too
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04:13 ShadowNinja Hello kaeza!
04:13 kaeza what's up Shadow?
04:13 VanessaE kaeza!! *pounce*
04:13 kaeza lol
04:13 kaeza seems I've been missed
04:14 VanessaE where the FUCK have you been!?
04:14 kaeza after all, what would you do without my c0d1n6 5ki11z
04:14 kaeza two words:
04:14 kaeza bandwidth exceeded
04:14 kaeza ;)
04:14 VanessaE still wanna stick with that crappy ISP? :)
04:15 kaeza yeah... at least up to september or so
04:15 kaeza this seriously sucks
04:15 kaeza how have you been V?
04:16 VanessaE not too bad
04:16 ShadowNinja Hmm, yet your connection stayed up. New ZNC host?
04:20 VanessaE he probably had it screen'd to some remote shell
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04:20 kaeza ShadowNinja, I use the same machine as the server
04:20 kaeza probably not a good idea, dunno
04:21 ShadowNinja Not "screened" (*ahem*, tmux). But somewhere else.
04:21 VanessaE well whatever
04:22 kaeza the hoster decided to change IPs, so I'm setting up everything again :(
04:24 ShadowNinja FreeDNS + wget <update url> in crontab.
04:25 VanessaE or afraid.org
04:25 ShadowNinja Yes, freedns.afraid.org
04:26 VanessaE oh right
04:26 VanessaE (I read that as some other free dns)
04:28 kaeza well, yes
04:28 kaeza but for the bouncer I'm using the direct ip
04:29 kaeza oh god
04:29 kaeza 20 channel tabs
04:29 kaeza all pinged me
04:30 * VanessaE pings kaeza just because
04:30 kaeza I look in the logs, the bouncer reconnected
04:30 kaeza *forever alone*
04:30 VanessaE (actually I was worried that you'd suddenly left without so much as a ragequit)
04:31 kaeza hehe
04:31 kaeza nope
04:32 kaeza I'm not going away just because of silly things
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04:38 VanessaE first RBA gets back online, then kaeza
04:38 VanessaE what's next, cornernote? :)
04:38 kaeza hah
04:38 ShadowNinja But he didn't go offline...
04:39 VanessaE true,
04:39 * VanessaE offers everyone large quantities of string cheese
04:39 kaeza well, define what is online
04:40 * kaeza wants
04:40 kaeza are you online? or is your digital persona the one that is online?
04:41 * kaeza starts mumbling more about existentialism and other random studd
04:41 kaeza stuff*
04:42 kaeza blame the labelless keyboard keys
04:45 VanessaE heh
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05:02 MinerofLands OldCoder are you there?
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05:47 ch98 Can someone please test my concrete mod?
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05:57 OldCoder Hi
05:58 OldCoder Ah he left
05:58 * OldCoder is mostly here sort of
05:59 RealBadAngel another concrete mod?
05:59 RealBadAngel we do have at least 2 concretes already
06:06 deasanta is this correct - you may only have one link in your post in the forum under Minetest Forums → Modding General
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06:34 sfan5 hello
06:34 sfan5 deasanta: umm
06:35 sfan5 when did you register on the forums?
06:35 deasanta ah - newish
06:36 deasanta did a mod but could not hyperlink git and source code link
06:37 sfan5 seems like the forum only allows 1 link in posts for new members
06:37 deasanta thanks sfan5
06:37 deasanta also need a bit of help with git
06:38 deasanta i need to break my project into smaller pieces so that a master? can be dowloaded for each mod
06:39 deasanta at the moment i have it so that a zip is available for the whole think
06:39 deasanta thing
06:39 deasanta see http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6279
06:57 sfan5 ...
06:57 MinetestBot joined #minetest
06:58 sfan5 ShadowBot: op MinetestBot
06:58 sfan5 -._
07:03 sfan5 what the hell, my internet is slow like a snail today
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07:23 sfan5 my internet is unstable as fuck
07:32 deasanta sfan5 do you use speedtest.net to test it?
07:33 sfan5 no
07:33 sfan5 everything loaded reaally slow and I was disconnected every 5 mins
07:33 * sfan5 just restarted his router
07:33 deasanta u on wireless or cabled?
07:34 deasanta i know my linux drops it wireless quite frequently
07:34 sfan5 wireless
07:34 sfan5 but I've never had any problems with WiFi and Linux
07:35 deasanta not someone close to u on the same frequency?
07:35 deasanta frequency > channel
07:39 sfan5 ...
07:39 sfan5 could be
07:40 sfan5 the channel is set to auto in the router
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07:53 kaeza okay, my mouse officially died :|
07:54 Calinou use a cat instead
07:54 deasanta bad harware day for kaeza and sfan5
07:54 sfan5 umm, no
07:54 sfan5 bad software day for my router
07:55 * john_minetest puts a kitten on kaeza's desk
07:55 kaeza now using an old mouse (not optical), and with... 2 buttons ;_;
07:55 john_minetest Kitten eats mouse.
07:55 Calinou it's always good hardware day for me :<
07:55 * Calinou puts a kitten on john_minetest's head
07:56 * john_minetest strokes the kitten
08:11 sfan5 yyayayayayay
08:11 sfan5 !!
08:11 sfan5 \o/
08:12 sfan5 uclibc has a proper wchar implementation
08:12 sfan5 minetestserver runs perfectly with uclibc on android
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08:19 sfan5 !up sfan5.dyndns.org 30010
08:19 MinetestBot sfan5.dyndns.org:30010 is up (272ms)
08:25 sfan5 !up sfan5.dyndns.org 30010
08:25 MinetestBot sfan5.dyndns.org:30010 is up (335ms)
08:26 kaeza !up kaeza.mooo.com
08:26 MinetestBot kaeza.mooo.com:30000 seems to be down
08:26 kaeza dafuq
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08:27 Issa hello
08:27 Issa i played minetest with mod pack of VanessaE
08:27 kaeza bonjour
08:27 Issa it's cool
08:28 Issa kaeza, bonjour
08:28 kaeza that's the only think I know how to spell :P
08:28 Issa kaeza, u speack french
08:29 Issa i m french
08:29 kaeza I'm uruguaian
08:29 deasanta !up sfan5.dyndns.org 30010 - is the port open on the router?
08:29 kaeza yan*
08:29 kaeza and no, I don't speak french :P
08:32 kaeza !up kaeza.mooo.com
08:32 MinetestBot kaeza.mooo.com:30000 is up (104ms)
08:33 kaeza there
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08:37 RealBadAngel i just wrote an email to a polish composer Marek Bilinski
08:37 RealBadAngel wonder if he will agree to use his music
08:38 deasanta in midi format?
08:38 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G853m07CfBM
08:39 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh0AsS4d5og
08:39 RealBadAngel those are not midi's
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08:40 deasanta no but i can be? small and transportable - ie downloadable / streamable
08:40 deasanta sounds good - luv it
08:41 RealBadAngel sounds can be local
08:41 RealBadAngel no need to transfer them
08:41 RealBadAngel make /sounds folder place there main_menu.ogg
08:42 RealBadAngel it will be played when you launch the game
08:42 deasanta yup - looks like that song in mp3 is about 10mb
08:43 RealBadAngel i have better remix of the first song
08:43 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PXMnIxt5RM
08:43 RealBadAngel and this one i would like to use in game
08:44 sfan5 deasanta: yes
08:44 RealBadAngel how do you like it folks?
08:46 kaeza MIDI sucks as music format
08:46 RealBadAngel this is not midi
08:46 deasanta sfan5 - working now - did not when i tried earlier
08:46 kaeza I know
08:46 sfan5 lawl! server crashed
08:46 * sfan5 used worldedit
08:46 deasanta no i know - but is used in games due to size (80s technology)
08:47 RealBadAngel of course, but we dont have to care about size at all
08:47 RealBadAngel i do have over 2TB of disk space here
08:47 kaeza XMs do not depend on the soundcard, and can be really small even for longish songs
08:48 RealBadAngel 100mbps bandwith
08:48 RealBadAngel so why i should care if a song is 1,5 or 10 mb?
08:48 kaeza (XM, STM, MOD, etc)
08:48 kaeza S3M*
08:49 kaeza well, storage space may not matter
08:49 kaeza but bandwidth does
08:50 RealBadAngel notice that music files doesnt have to be transferred
08:50 kaeza I know about that :P
08:50 RealBadAngel i do have version of ambience that works only local
08:50 RealBadAngel server provides only the code
08:50 RealBadAngel sounds are on the client side
08:59 Taoki Does the formspec allow checkboxes?
09:00 RealBadAngel sapier's new menu code may do this
09:01 RealBadAngel but im not sure
09:01 RealBadAngel Taoki, and how do you like the music?
09:01 Taoki ok. Need it for a node formspec if latest GIT supports
09:01 Taoki What music?
09:01 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G853m07CfBM
09:01 RealBadAngel this one
09:02 Taoki nice
09:02 RealBadAngel its almost 30yrs old composition
09:02 RealBadAngel polish btw ;)
09:04 RealBadAngel i just wrote author for permission to use it in technic_game
09:05 deasanta http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYPNFuDMXEs - starting at 1:04
09:05 deasanta or the choris at 1:50
09:07 RealBadAngel this is also good
09:07 RealBadAngel check this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G853m07CfBM
09:07 RealBadAngel oops
09:07 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqOITwbuFY8
09:08 RealBadAngel now
09:09 RealBadAngel that was original record, old as hell
09:09 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ljHQEQfk-w
09:09 RealBadAngel this is live, this year
09:11 RealBadAngel but the other one the best is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-fx360hT5g
09:13 deasanta The House In The Fog Valley +1
09:14 deasanta doesnt have to be the whole song but a nice part that can be looped
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09:20 RealBadAngel deasanta, you make also like this version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTu-LVvVGng
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09:29 MarkTwain RBA, hows the inventory fix?
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10:16 RealBadAngel hi Jeija
10:16 Jeija Hi RealBadAngel
10:16 RealBadAngel howdy?
10:17 RealBadAngel Jeija, i should aks you for permission too
10:17 RealBadAngel i decided to create technic game
10:17 Jeija fine, but I don't do much with minetest anymore (played last time like a month ago)
10:17 RealBadAngel which inludes mesecons
10:18 Jeija If you want to use any of my mods in the game, I'm fine with it
10:18 RealBadAngel thx
10:18 RealBadAngel i will
10:18 Jeija As long as you don't totally rebrand it and claim it your own
10:18 RealBadAngel you know me, im not a tchief
10:19 Jeija Sure, that was more like a general statement
10:19 RealBadAngel you made half of the work for it to be possible
10:19 RealBadAngel i made another half
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10:20 RealBadAngel and i want it to be a GAME now
10:20 RealBadAngel with all the eye candies possible
10:22 RealBadAngel Jeija, but tell me, are you going back to code mods?
10:22 RealBadAngel or the engine
10:23 Jeija Currently I prefer doing some real-life electronics and C coding, but I may get back when I have more time
10:23 RealBadAngel you have the brains, we cannot afford to lose you
10:23 Jeija I already made a mesecons dispenser, but is not yet pushed
10:24 RealBadAngel some of m code is complemeting yours already
10:24 Jeija Actually one reason why I don't code mods atm is that mesecons is quite stable now
10:25 RealBadAngel it is
10:25 RealBadAngel im doing more mess atm ;)
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10:26 RealBadAngel i feel sorry i cant work on the project full time
10:26 Jeija For me it feels like the whole development has slowed down lately...?
10:27 RealBadAngel yeah
10:27 Jeija Any speculations why?
10:27 RealBadAngel life
10:27 RealBadAngel on winter we do have more spare time
10:28 RealBadAngel if it was up to me i could code 24/24
10:29 RealBadAngel but i have to work
10:32 RealBadAngel propably others have the same situation
10:33 RealBadAngel Jeija, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G853m07CfBM you havent seen this link
10:34 RealBadAngel this is propably to become technic_game music score
10:35 Jeija Ah ok, I was just wondering what that music is...
10:35 RealBadAngel Marek Bilinski
10:36 RealBadAngel composer from anoter side of steel curtain
10:36 RealBadAngel imho comparable to Jean Michelle Jeare
10:37 RealBadAngel dont you think?
10:48 Calinou http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1gf11g/linux_saved_so_much_money_for_my_school_were_the/
10:48 Calinou minetestminetestminetestminetestminetestminetest
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10:52 TheLastProject Cool :P
10:53 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:53 Calinou hi
10:56 PilzAdam Calinou, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95040#p95040
10:59 deasanta ho
10:59 deasanta hi
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11:06 PilzAdam brb
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11:16 john_minetest is reddit the new usenet?
11:18 TheLastProject Until Reddit is used for old-school illegal file sharing I would say no
11:20 john_minetest Hmmm... I wonder if usenet is still active. I have never seen any website with the text: "Visit us on usenet".
11:22 sfan5 Calinou left :(
11:24 TheLastProject I have never seen "Visit us on Reddit" either
11:30 john_minetest I saw one site with a "reddit" button.
11:30 john_minetest It was only a site template but it had this button.
11:31 * VanessaE peeks in for a few mins
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11:39 arsdragonfly Looooooolz
11:39 arsdragonfly My old rig couldn't boot just now
11:40 arsdragonfly My mum took a hairdryer and dried the motherboard, then it worked
12:09 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Lazy sunday typo fixing. s/unban_player_of_ip/unban_player_or_ip/g 4405310184 2013-06-16T05:07:12-07:00 http://git.io/_5A-LA
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12:31 Issa my serveur mintest crash :/
12:32 Issa 14:31:31: ERROR[main]: Server::fillMediaCache(): Empty file "E:\Jeux\Minetest\mi
12:32 Issa netest-0.4.7-6b3e553-win32-Server\bin\..\mods\coloredwood\textures\coloredwood_f
12:32 Issa ence_dark_magenta.png"
12:34 VanessaE empty file?
12:35 VanessaE I'll be damned.
12:35 * VanessaE checks some of the other files
12:36 VanessaE huh, there are several textures here that are screwed up
12:36 VanessaE give me a few and I'll push a fix.
12:41 VanessaE Issa: fixed in git.
12:46 Issa vanessa i used ur mega pack of mod
12:46 Issa it will be very long orecreate this pack
12:46 VanessaE I updated my game/modpack also
12:46 Issa link please
12:47 VanessaE you can just re-download the affected mod:  http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=32039
12:47 VanessaE the game is here:  http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/VanessaE_Game.tar.bz2
12:47 VanessaE (that's the only "megapack" I distribute)
12:48 VanessaE but you may wish to just download the mod and replace the one in your pack, as I have a change to pipeworks going up shortly also
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13:00 Issa VanessaE, thanks
13:00 VanessaE no prob
13:00 Issa i nned to create my own script ou get automaticly update all the mod i use via github
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13:00 Issa well we see to do that
13:00 VanessaE don't do that actually
13:00 VanessaE it may lead to problems
13:01 VanessaE always manage your mods manually, especially if they're part of a game
13:01 Issa why ??
13:02 VanessaE well in the case of a game, mods are sometimes selected to fit together well.  a newer version of something could break other mods in the game
13:02 VanessaE otherwise, you simply need to keep in mind about new versions of mods in case something come up, i.e. a new bug is introduced somewhere that you need to avoid
13:02 PilzAdam VanessaE, plants_lib relys on the format of dump()? oO
13:03 VanessaE PilzAdam: plants_lib relies on the behavior dump() had at the time the mod was written
13:03 PilzAdam *relies
13:03 PilzAdam thats not good
13:03 VanessaE how that change broke it, I don't understand, but kaeza's patch fixes it
13:04 PilzAdam use minetest.serialize() and minetest.deserialize() instead
13:04 VanessaE and the behavior it had at the time was that it expected dump() to return a normal table
13:04 VanessaE NO
13:04 VanessaE don't start that shit again.
13:04 VanessaE this is not the place for serialize() as it passes a single table, pos, to loadstring to be used in a function call.
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13:06 PilzAdam use mintest.pos_to_string() then
13:06 VanessaE why?
13:06 VanessaE it always worked perfectly before.
13:06 PilzAdam you cant rely on a certain format of dump()
13:06 PilzAdam there is not API call to revert dump()
13:07 VanessaE revert?
13:07 VanessaE um
13:07 VanessaE khonkhortisan changed the format of the dump() output.  kaeza's fix makes sure it still works where it was used before.
13:07 VanessaE this is not up for debate.
13:08 PilzAdam it is, there is no hint in the lua-api.txt that dump()s format is stable
13:08 PilzAdam though, minetest.pos_to_string() and minetest.string_to_pos() are documented to always work together
13:08 PilzAdam same for minetest.serialize() and minetest.deserialize()
13:09 PilzAdam dump() should only be used to print() something in a human readable way
13:09 VanessaE exactly.  and those functions need to be both machine-executable and human readable.
13:10 PilzAdam "those functions"?
13:10 VanessaE yeah
13:10 VanessaE the function calls in plants_lib are also printed just before they're executed, if debug is turned on
13:10 kahrl what's wrong with pos_to_string?
13:10 VanessaE kahrl: perhaps nothing except that I wasn't using it before and shouldn't have to now.
13:12 PilzAdam VanessaE, you rely on undocumented behaviour, wich is bad code style
13:12 VanessaE plus it makes zero sense to demand I make changes to a mod that worked perfectly before just so someone can avoid inserting two characters into the lua function.
13:12 Issa VanessaE, maybe u can add some rules to make this not append
13:12 Issa well id'ont know i fact
13:12 PilzAdam the pull request should be merged anyways, but VanessaE is wrong too
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13:13 VanessaE PilzAdam: dump() has been around for a while, with fairly well-defined behavior, especially on a simple three-element position table.
13:13 kahrl VanessaE, you should change it anyway, dump() output is not meant to be deserialized, and details can change at any point in the future
13:14 VanessaE kahrl: dump was used because the parameters are being passed as a string to another function, so deserialize would probably be wrong here.
13:14 VanessaE -s
13:14 PilzAdam can you link the code?
13:15 kahrl I didn't mean minetest.deseralize() specifically, but any code that parses a string and returns a table
13:15 VanessaE https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/blob/master/plants_lib/init.lua#L174
13:15 VanessaE (stupid github of course doesn't show the whole line)
13:15 VanessaE assert(loadstring(node_or_function_or_model.."("..dump(pos)..")"))()
13:16 VanessaE at the time I coded it, it was the only way I could figure out how to basically make my own callbacks.
13:17 PilzAdam what is node_or_function_or_model?
13:17 VanessaE PilzAdam: a string passed from moretrees (usually), which may either be a function name to execute within the modetrees code, or it can be a table with an L-systems tree definition, or it can be a node name.
13:18 PilzAdam ehm
13:18 PilzAdam that is really bad code style
13:18 arsdragonfly hey guys
13:18 VanessaE it works fine for me, PilzAdam
13:18 arsdragonfly how to put my server process to background in the terminal?
13:19 VanessaE &
13:19 TheLastProject arsdragonfly: Linux? Windows? Mac?
13:20 TheLastProject Normally, I would execute it like "nohup ./minetestserver &"
13:20 TheLastProject Which backgrounds it and logs everything to "nohup.out"
13:20 TheLastProject If it's already running, good old Ctrl+Z could work too
13:20 TheLastProject (This is assuming Linux, not sure about other platforms)
13:20 Exio ctrl-z, bg, disown, profit
13:20 arsdragonfly thanks
13:21 TheLastProject "command not found: profit"
13:21 arsdragonfly I'll try
13:21 TheLastProject :(
13:21 arsdragonfly btw I'm chatting on my desktop lubuntu
13:21 PilzAdam VanessaE, also, you rely that dump() is compatible with Luas loadstring(), wich is even worse
13:21 arsdragonfly and my server is on an old android phone
13:21 PilzAdam VanessaE, you need to write your own dumpPos() function that
13:21 Exio lol TheLastProject
13:21 arsdragonfly I want to make it a dedicated server
13:22 VanessaE PilzAdam: if you think you can fix it, I welcome pull requests.
13:22 VanessaE but it has always worked fine from day-one.
13:22 PilzAdam VanessaE, is this the only file that uses that hack?
13:23 VanessaE PilzAdam: afaik, and it's used in two or three places in that code.
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13:34 kahrl 15:33:51: ERROR[main]: Test (hand_server.count == 1) failed: UASSERT
13:34 kahrl 8 times in a row, I can't even run my own unit tests :/
13:34 PilzAdam VanessaE, https://github.com/VanessaE/plantlife/pull/5
13:35 PilzAdam (untested)
13:35 arsdragonfly !server ping:most
13:35 MinetestBot arsdragonfly: Arsdragonfly's server | arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30002 | Clients: 1/100, 4 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.613
13:35 arsdragonfly :-\
13:35 VanessaE oh sure, you want me to put untested code into production? :)
13:36 PilzAdam I want you to test it first
13:37 PilzAdam VanessaE, you really should reduce your usage of dump()
13:38 VanessaE um
13:39 VanessaE what's with all the wasted brackets?
13:39 PilzAdam hm?
13:40 VanessaE I might have expected,  "{x="..pos.x", y="..pos.y..", z="..pos.z.."}"
13:40 VanessaE less code, exactly the same effect.
13:40 VanessaE (except that I missed a .. in there)
13:40 PilzAdam change it if you want
13:40 PilzAdam doesnt really matter
13:42 VanessaE Issa: that other change I mentioned is in now.   https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/archive/master.zip
13:42 VanessaE or just re-download the game pack.
13:48 john_minetest VanessaE: is it okay if I build the subway hanging under the bridges?
13:48 VanessaE sure
13:48 john_minetest ok, thx
13:49 VanessaE if they'll fit, but you probably need to just go down to -1 or below, I think the bridges are all protected.
13:49 john_minetest hmmm...
13:51 VanessaE (I got tired of the damn things constantly being turn up by griefers)
13:53 john_minetest VanessaE: The part where I dug yesterday is protected again.
13:53 VanessaE torn*
13:53 VanessaE aw crap, sorry I musta gone down too low
13:53 VanessaE skip over it, I'll fix it later
13:54 john_minetest I mean the part that is not under the bridge but under the farlands arc
13:54 VanessaE yeah I assumed that's what you meant
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13:54 john_minetest hi Zeg9
13:55 Zeg9 Hi
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14:07 Kacey VanessaE, you around?
14:09 VanessaE yesh
14:09 VanessaE yeah
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14:09 PilzAdam yeah + yes = yesh
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14:14 rubenwardy Hi guys!
14:14 rubenwardy (and girls)
14:14 rubenwardy (and MinetestBot)
14:16 john_minetest hi rubenwardy
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14:17 Zeg9 Hi, rubenwardy
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14:29 VanessaE Issa: another update to pipeworks just went up, you'll want to re-download it (or the whole game)
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14:36 kahrl PilzAdam, can I PM you?
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14:45 VanessaE bbl
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14:53 PilzAdam kahrl, of course
15:02 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Tweak IDropAction restriction handling in server.cpp b5918760fb 2013-06-16T08:01:21-07:00 http://git.io/XvDruw
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15:09 rubenwardy Do categories in groups={} have a maximum and minimum value?
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15:13 MinerofLands OldCoder are you ther?
15:14 ShadowNinja minetestserver is killing my CPU again...
15:15 sfan5 adobe flash is using much cpu again without any apparent reason
15:17 sfan5 my vps died D:
15:17 PilzAdam again?
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15:19 sfan5 some program is downloading something for no reason
15:19 sfan5 ..it was chrome
15:19 ShadowNinja sfan5: Someone is missing here...
15:20 Calinou sfan5: inb4 from the NSA
15:20 MinerofLands me ofc
15:20 sfan5 I can't even reach the control panel of my vps
15:20 Calinou inb4 DDoS
15:20 rubenwardy Do categories in groups={} have a maximum and minimum value?
15:21 Calinou nope?
15:21 Calinou see fall_damage_add_percent
15:22 PilzAdam rubenwardy, they are int
15:22 rubenwardy ok
15:24 sfan5 perfect case, phenny doesn't work on my computer for some reason and my vps is down
15:25 ShadowNinja sfan5: You can use ShadowBot now?
15:25 sfan5 good
15:25 ShadowNinja (In channel)
15:25 PilzAdam ShadowBot!
15:25 ShadowNinja sfan5: Question, test it.
15:25 sfan5 ShadowBot: op sfan5
15:26 sfan5 works
15:26 PilzAdam ShadowBot, op PilzAdam
15:26 rubenwardy just finished converting food and food_baking to a new api framework
15:26 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: The equivalent for ShadowBot is hello ShadowBot!
15:26 MinerofLands ShadowBot: op MinerofLands
15:26 ShadowBot MinerofLands: Error: You don't have the #minetest,op capability. If you think that you should have this capability, be sure that you are identified before trying again. The 'whoami' command can tell you if you're identified.
15:26 MinerofLands :(
15:27 MinerofLands sfan5 i have a debian vps if you want :D
15:27 rubenwardy ShadowBot: whoami
15:27 ShadowBot rubenwardy: I don't recognize you.
15:27 sfan5 ShadowBot: whoami
15:27 ShadowBot sfan5: sfan5
15:27 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: /msg ShadowBot help register
15:27 sfan5 you dont say
15:28 MinerofLands yes :D
15:28 MinerofLands all you use it for is yourbots right?
15:28 MinerofLands i can run them for you :D
15:28 rubenwardy ShadowBot: whoami
15:28 ShadowBot rubenwardy: name
15:28 ShadowNinja But lets stop playing with it before someone yells at me. ;-)
15:28 rubenwardy damn
15:28 sfan5 MinerofLands: ahh, no thanks
15:28 rubenwardy mis typed
15:28 MinerofLands i didnt want to host them for you anyway!!!
15:28 MinerofLands :'(
15:28 rubenwardy can you delete the account for "name"
15:29 ShadowNinja rubenwardy: There is a changename command or similar.
15:29 ShadowNinja See "list user"
15:29 rubenwardy ShadowBot: whoami
15:29 ShadowBot rubenwardy: rubenwardy
15:29 rubenwardy cool
15:29 sfan5 ShadowBot: whoareyou
15:30 ShadowNinja !version
15:30 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.4.1+limnoria installed on 2013-06-15T15:17:36+0000. The newest versions available online are b'2013-06-13T17:22:33' (in master), b'2013-06-13T17:22:33' (in testing).
15:31 MinerofLands lol shadowbot is a supybot
15:31 MinerofLands wasnt even coded from scratch -__
15:31 PilzAdam ShadowBot, whoami
15:31 ShadowBot PilzAdam: PilzAdam
15:31 Kacey ShadowBot, whoami
15:31 ShadowBot Kacey: Kacey
15:31 rubenwardy ShadowBot: whoami
15:31 ShadowBot rubenwardy: rubenwardy
15:31 ShadowNinja Limnoria, yes.
15:31 sfan5 MinerofLands: MinetestBot is not coded from scratch either
15:31 ShadowNinja Now stop abusing it.
15:31 MinerofLands but i like you :D i dont like shadowninja on the other hand
15:32 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, has she some kind of !ignore?
15:32 ShadowNinja I have re-written the Minetest IRC mod, that was pretty much from scratch.
15:32 ShadowNinja PilzAdam: Yes.
15:33 MinerofLands does the bot for minetest work?
15:33 TheLastProject MinerofLands: Does anyone code anything from scratch?
15:34 MinerofLands yes
15:34 MinerofLands :D
15:34 TheLastProject I'd like to see you develop something without relying on anything written beforehand. That includes standard system libraries that allow you to open and safe files, for example
15:34 ShadowNinja MinerofLands: Yes, you can see it on my IRC network, InchraNet.
15:34 TheLastProject s/safe/save/
15:34 ShadowBot What TheLastProject meant to say was: I'd like to see you develop something without relying on anything written beforehand. That includes standard system libraries that allow you to open and save files, for example
15:34 TheLastProject God dammit that is annoying
15:34 TheLastProject =/
15:34 MinerofLands ShadowNinja i mean the bot that someone was devolping
15:34 TheLastProject And it took 7 seconds?...
15:35 MinerofLands the bot that plays in game
15:35 Calinou suddenly: triggerbot
15:35 ShadowNinja I will remove that.
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15:35 * Calinou says "ubuntu" 150 times
15:35 sfan5 Minecraft is awesome
15:35 hmmmm http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=2013061516065416
15:35 sfan5 s/craft/test
15:35 sfan5 damnit
15:35 TheLastProject Calinou: Not completely from scratch, uses a fair bit of libraries including Twisted
15:35 TheLastProject It's closer to from scratch than supybot, but yeah
15:36 TheLastProject Nobody writes stuff from scratch, that's just insane
15:36 * sfan5 did
15:36 MinerofLands sfan5 does
15:36 TheLastProject Really?
15:36 sfan5 I wrote an asm forkbomb from scratch directly using the linux syscalls
15:36 TheLastProject Not a single "import"-like statement in the code?
15:36 TheLastProject >using the linux syscalls
15:37 TheLastProject So, it depends on code written by someone else :P
15:37 sfan5 that is absolutly needed, because I can't directly modify the process table etc.
15:37 MinerofLands shadowninja this is what i was talking about
15:37 MinerofLands http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4964
15:38 kahrl hmmmm, wtf is that
15:38 TheLastProject Should write your own process table system and obviously the underlying kernel :P
15:38 kahrl I thought everyone involved in SCO was already dead... although they might be zombies now
15:38 hmmmm somebody probably bought SCO for $2
15:38 kahrl isn't there some kind of statute of limitations?
15:39 MinerofLands sfan5 do you know anything about this?
15:39 MinerofLands http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4964
15:39 hmmmm they can claim that their copyright is being infringed at the present time
15:39 sfan5 MinerofLands: define know
15:39 MinerofLands i heard you had one runny
15:39 MinerofLands running
15:39 MinerofLands how do i get one to run :D
15:39 MinerofLands im a noob :(
15:43 sfan5 TheLastProject: well, I wrote a kernel myself...
15:44 TheLastProject Huh, cool
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15:44 MinerofLands yeah TheLastProject can say anything now can you?!
15:44 MinerofLands cant***
15:45 TheLastProject MinerofLands: How not?
15:45 MinerofLands nevermind :D
15:45 TheLastProject Unless that other program ran on his kernel and blahblah it's not completely from scratch
15:46 TheLastProject The thing is, "from scratch" is generally a waste of time
15:46 TheLastProject Why not use things provided to you?
15:46 TheLastProject Why not just grab supybot and change it, if that works best?
15:46 MinerofLands true
15:46 TheLastProject You can get the same result in less time. Seems only smart
15:48 sfan5 !re TheLastProject´([A-Z].*)
15:48 ShadowBot sfan5: Error: 'TheLastProject´([A-Z].*)' is not a valid regular expression.
15:48 sfan5 damn you ShadowBot for not using the same syntax as MinetestBot
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15:49 MinerofLands what does that command do? *_*
15:49 TheLastProject What are you trying to do?...
15:50 ShadowNinja re is regex in ShadowBot, in MinetestBot it is reverse.
15:51 sfan5 ShadowNinja: no
15:51 sfan5 !re,!regex -> regex !rev,!reverse -> reverse
15:51 ShadowBot sfan5: Error: Spurious ">". You may want to quote your arguments with double quotes in order to prevent extra brackets from being evaluated as nested commands.
15:51 rubenwardy Minetest Extensions was from scratch. It sucks
15:55 Jordach hey MinerofLands
15:55 MinerofLands hi
15:55 * Jordach wonders where MinetestBot is
15:55 MinerofLands rubenwardy do you have your minetestextensions database?
15:55 rubenwardy no
15:56 rubenwardy deleted
15:56 MinerofLands buuuuuu
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15:56 Jordach hey RealBadAngel
15:57 RealBadAngel hi
15:57 MinerofLands anybody need a seedbox?
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16:02 MarkTwain Can someone explain this? http://pastie.org/8049084
16:02 MarkTwain does it reply what is defined?
16:07 Jordach ow bitch
16:10 khonkhortisan event.msg might be a table or something else unprintable
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16:11 iqualfragile MinerofLands: what is a seedbox
16:12 MarkTwain khonk, can you join my server and see if you can make it work?
16:12 MinerofLands a seedbox is a server where you download torrents
16:12 MinerofLands and then the server will seed for you
16:12 iqualfragile ah, ok
16:12 MinerofLands generaly the servers have 1gb lines
16:12 MinerofLands so you get like 1:1 ratio in minutes
16:12 MinerofLands good for private trackers
16:13 Calinou seems legit
16:13 MinerofLands is legits
16:14 Calinou yes, but almost always used for pirating
16:14 Calinou don't hide me stuff like that
16:14 MinerofLands true lol.....but not all torrents are illegal -_-
16:15 Calinou most of them are
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16:15 MinerofLands yeah thats true
16:16 MinerofLands but some people have sloppy internet and want to share something....they ask someone with a seed box to seed for them
16:16 MinerofLands thats why i asked
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16:18 OldCoder Hi
16:18 MinerofLands oldcoder finaly yay!
16:18 MinerofLands can i om you?
16:18 MinerofLands pm**
16:18 Jordach <MinerofLands> om nom nom
16:19 MinerofLands lol
16:19 OldCoder Sure
16:19 MinerofLands your quick eh jordach?
16:19 MinerofLands thats what she said
16:19 MinerofLands hahahaah
16:19 Jordach MinerofLands, thats my job nowadays
16:19 Jordach no-one comes in here for help anymore
16:19 Jordach so my entertainment is toying with the regulars
16:22 MinerofLands i ask for help but sfan5 helps me and ignores me
16:22 MinerofLands :(
16:23 john_minetest Pew: http://i.imgur.com/hpN8Z.gif
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16:24 john_minetest Epic trick. ^
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16:28 Frogphone Can a person change the character models?
16:29 MinerofLands yes YOU can
16:30 MinerofLands my model is CJ from GTA:SA :D
16:30 Jordach nobody fuck with CJ!
16:30 Jordach MinerofLands, ever tried killing someone using a BMX on the beach>
16:30 john_minetest Are there ponies for MT?
16:30 Calinou john_minetest: nope.
16:30 MinerofLands lol no
16:30 Jordach not yet
16:31 MinerofLands what happens?
16:31 john_minetest I wonder why not. There are so many bronies on the forums.
16:31 Jordach actually, we could even spare the current UV map
16:31 Jordach basically new model: same skin formaqt
16:31 Jordach format*
16:31 Exio poor MinetestBot
16:31 Exio it crashed when you said brony
16:31 Exio don't do it again john_minetest :(
16:31 Jordach but MinetestBot is female
16:32 john_minetest Maybe minetestBot hates UV maps...
16:32 MinerofLands whats a brony?
16:33 Calinou question of the year
16:33 Calinou dun-dun-dun
16:33 khonkhortisan bro-pony
16:33 john_minetest MinerofLands: Someone who likes my little pony.
16:33 Calinou Exio: it was influenced by me!
16:33 Jordach Calinou, thats my line!
16:33 khonkhortisan my little pony male viewers
16:33 MinerofLands ohh lol
16:33 Jordach the dun dun durr
16:33 Calinou khonkhortisan: oh, didn't know about the portmanteau
16:33 Calinou thought it came from nowhere
16:33 sfan5 MinerofLands: i was afk
16:33 Calinou guess we'll name MLMC viewers "mese brostals"
16:34 rubenwardy Bye all
16:34 MinerofLands later
16:34 MinerofLands ok sfan5 i forgive you :D.....so do you know how to set up that bot...the one i linked you too?
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16:35 sfan5 ShadowBot: op MinetestBot
16:35 Calinou john_minetest: I only counted 3-ish bronies on the forums
16:35 sfan5 MinerofLands: link again, please
16:35 Calinou that's not "so many" :p
16:36 john_minetest Calinou: Maybe.
16:37 PilzAdam sfan5, use /msg
16:37 sfan5 !re TheLastProject´([A-Z].*)
16:37 sfan5 MinetestBot!
16:37 MinetestBot sfan5!
16:37 sfan5 hm
16:37 Jordach !regex TheLastProject´([A-Z].*)
16:37 MinerofLands sfan5 this http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4964
16:37 Calinou huh, non-clickable link
16:38 MinerofLands http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4964
16:38 Jordach guess the person skin! http://i.imgur.com/DFXnkTK.png
16:39 MinerofLands vanessae
16:39 Jordach NOPE.AVI
16:40 sfan5 MinerofLands: you need to dl https://github.com/rarkenin/minetest-bot-php and then execute some php file
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16:40 MinerofLands ok i will look into it thanks
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16:41 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95084#p95084
16:41 Calinou why do I want to stab everyone in this topif
16:41 Calinou s/f/c
16:41 Calinou Jordach: 55nolerec
16:41 sfan5 !title
16:41 Jordach Calinou wins.
16:41 sfan5 wat
16:41 Jordach Flawless victory.
16:41 sfan5 MinetestBot!
16:41 MinetestBot sfan5!
16:42 RealBadAngel hehe
16:42 sfan5 !title
16:42 sfan5 !reverse sfan5
16:42 sfan5 wtf
16:42 Jordach !rev racecar
16:42 Jordach sfan5, reload *
16:43 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload rutils
16:43 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'rutils' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/rutils.pyc'> (version: 2013-06-16 16:35:09)
16:43 sfan5 !regex
16:43 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload *
16:43 RealBadAngel btw, im lookin for contributors for technic_game. who wanna jump into the project?
16:43 sfan5 ??
16:43 Jordach RealBadAngel, go to jordach/minetest_game/ and take my implementation of moonflower
16:43 RealBadAngel have you altered the original?
16:44 Jordach RealBadAngel, it has the missing glowing dye + glowing mese
16:44 MinerofLands sfan5 how did you get the bot running?
16:44 RealBadAngel Jordach, great, i will move it right away
16:44 kaeza greetings
16:44 RealBadAngel it was the whole idea
16:44 sfan5 MinerofLands: i didn't have any bot running
16:44 Jordach and moonflower is a respective mode
16:45 Jordach mod*
16:45 MinetestBot sfan5: done
16:45 RealBadAngel i already made a new repository for the game
16:45 sfan5 !regex
16:45 sfan5 !help
16:46 PilzAdam !unignore sfan5
16:46 RealBadAngel and started with adding backgrounds for chest and furnaces, UI style
16:46 sfan5 PilzAdam: the !ignore command won't work with admins
16:46 sfan5 !help
16:47 sfan5 !unignore sfan5
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16:47 sfan5 something is wrong
16:47 john_minetest The problem of http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=95084 is described very clear. It is obvious that the author cared about good spelling and understandable sentence structures. </sarcasm>
16:48 john_minetest And hi OldCoder.
16:48 RealBadAngel Jordach, direct link? i cant find it
16:49 Jordach https://github.com/jordach/minetest_game/tree/moonflower
16:49 Jordach hand typed and it works
16:49 Jordach \o/
16:50 RealBadAngel lol
16:50 RealBadAngel indeed
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16:51 sfan5 !help
16:51 MinerofLands lol sfan5....i can host it for you *_*
16:52 sfan5 MinerofLands: thats not the problem
16:52 sfan5 it simply doesn't work
16:53 sfan5 MinetestBot!
16:53 MinetestBot sfan5!
16:53 sfan5 !help
16:54 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload help
16:54 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'help' from '/home/stefan/mtbot/modules/help.py'> (version: 2013-06-16 16:53:54)
16:54 sfan5 !help
16:54 RealBadAngel Jordach, ive added the flower togerher with bunch of other things
16:55 RealBadAngel and the game has its own icon, as vanessa suggested its a transformer picture
16:59 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/H9mNJ7w.jpg
17:00 MinerofLands why doesnt mine look like that? :(
17:00 Calinou +1 for greybird
17:00 Calinou and well, xubuntu
17:05 kaeza host1free closed all the free VPSs because of "security reasons"
17:06 kaeza s/closed/shut down/
17:06 Calinou (insert shrugging rainbow dash here)
17:06 john_minetest RealBadAngel: I read "transformer" and thought of the Autobots...
17:06 Exio ^ same here
17:06 kaeza ^
17:06 Exio lol
17:06 Exio hi kaeza
17:07 kaeza hai Exio
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17:12 john_minetest !seen Zeg9
17:12 john_minetest MinetestBot is ignoring me...
17:12 Exio lamefun: how is the js scripting support going
17:13 PilzAdam MinetestBot has problems today
17:16 Jordach kaeza, s/shut down/NSA
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17:19 RealBadAngel john_minetest, hehe funny idea indeed
17:19 RealBadAngel but yes. it will transform the game
17:21 ShadowNinja john_minetest: ,,(last --from Zeg9 --in #minetest --on freenode)
17:21 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: [15:17:54] <Zeg9> Hi, rubenwardy
17:23 lamefun Exio, it's not
17:23 lamefun I'm making a machinegun turret mod now
17:23 Exio aww :(
17:26 Calinou lamefun was riddeld full of riddled by an mlrs turret
17:27 Jordach bullets*
17:27 Jordach > apparently in IRC doing this makes it green
17:28 Jordach TIL IRC is Reddit
17:28 kaeza Jordach, nope
17:28 Jordach kaeza, hexchat made that one green
17:28 kaeza not for me
17:29 Calinou Jordach: xonotic reference
17:29 Calinou until 0.7, the MLRS turret kill message was glitched
17:29 Jordach aye
17:29 Calinou (the "riddeld" typo is also intentional)
17:30 kaeza Jordach, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-06-16%2014%3A28%3A56.png
17:30 Calinou haha, green
17:30 Calinou too bad you can't change highlight colors, would be nice
17:30 ShadowNinja This channel blocks mIRC color codes, so no.
17:30 Exio you can
17:30 Exio all that shit is client-side
17:30 ShadowNinja ^
17:30 Calinou yeah
17:30 Exio the irc by itself is just crap and raw text
17:31 kaeza bold test
17:31 Exio +c, blocked
17:31 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/Q8G4cXl.png
17:31 * Calinou installed libglib2.0-dev to compile NetRadiant, NetRadiant complains about libglib2.0-dev not found
17:31 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-06-16%2014%3A31%3A06.png
17:31 Calinou #nsfw
17:31 Calinou SEEMS LEGIT
17:32 PilzAdam topic of the day: Show your IRC client
17:32 Calinou it's official show your IRC client day! so do that!
17:33 ShadowNinja kaeza: You can see it but the server filters it for the rest of us, try in a channel with -c.
17:34 kaeza IK
17:35 Jordach suggestion for a skin for minetest
17:35 kaeza Jordach, Dean Stark
17:36 kaeza (or maybe Rudy Roughnight)
17:36 Jordach the video game character?
17:37 Jordach actually yes
17:37 Jordach yes it is
17:37 Jordach used to be your old avatar
17:39 MarkTwain the sun is weird
17:39 MarkTwain i stare at it and it jumps back amnd forth
17:40 Calinou Jordach: TF2 classes? :p
17:41 Jordach fuck that
17:41 Jordach maybe
17:41 Jordach in reds and blues
17:41 lamefun D.A.M.N. formspec
17:42 lamefun why not just serialized Lua tables?
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17:44 Calinou because RealBadAngel
17:45 PilzAdam ^
17:45 Jordach usually the soloution
17:45 PilzAdam it works for his mod so he doesnt care anymore
17:46 sfan5 color?
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17:47 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, the error hit not my mod but moretrees
17:48 RealBadAngel please stop saying so
17:48 PilzAdam hm?
17:48 PilzAdam what error?
17:48 RealBadAngel serialization of tables (dump)
17:48 RealBadAngel that
17:48 PilzAdam I was talking about formspecs
17:49 RealBadAngel so now i dont get it
17:49 RealBadAngel what you were talkin about ? :)
17:49 hmmmm PilzAdam, I was throwing around the idea yesterday of having clay generated as an ore in sand
17:50 hmmmm have any opinions on that?
17:50 * PilzAdam had that idea too
17:51 Exio a sand ore? :D
17:52 Calinou +1 for clay generated as an ore in sand
17:52 Jordach much better
17:53 Jordach but Minetoon did it first
17:53 Jordach see clay block
17:53 RealBadAngel see gloopores
17:53 RealBadAngel we already have ores that generate in desert stone
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17:56 MarkTwain how can i keep a part of the map always rendered?
17:56 Dogzilla131 Hi\
17:56 Dogzilla131 *hi
17:56 MarkTwain Hi
17:57 kaeza hai Dogzilla131
17:58 Jordach kaeza, almost done
17:58 Dogzilla131 Did something change in modding?
17:58 Dogzilla131 hi kaeza :)
17:59 ShadowNinja MarkTwain: You can't(other thn standing in it). However you can keep it loaded with the force_load pull.
17:59 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, hes talking about rendering not loading
18:00 ShadowNinja Well then he can't, as I said.
18:00 PilzAdam there is no sane reason to want that, though
18:00 MarkTwain like some command blocks
18:00 Jordach kaeza, http://i.imgur.com/nyMx3GM.png
18:00 MarkTwain that make time go
18:00 MarkTwain a bit annoying but somethomes useful
18:01 kaeza Jordach, :O
18:01 * kaeza wants
18:01 Jordach i took the attention of detail
18:01 kaeza awesome!
18:01 Jordach notice the shirt has stripes
18:02 Jordach *microwave ping* http://i.imgur.com/HmV7C7l.png
18:02 Jordach cc-by-nc-sa
18:02 Jordach 3.0*
18:03 kaeza I have me a new skin :3
18:03 kaeza thanks! ^_^
18:03 Jordach see, im awesome at pixel art
18:03 Jordach my iron man mk 7 had too much detail
18:03 Jordach (i might make a pull request so flying players look like superman)
18:03 hmmmm hmm
18:04 hmmmm pilzadam, you're the one who put in field grass, right?
18:04 kaeza and I suck :( https://raw.github.com/kaeza/cosmorpg/master/data/gfx/strain.png
18:04 PilzAdam hmmmm, yes
18:04 hmmmm did you really need to cube the perlin noise there?
18:04 hmmmm or was that arbitrary
18:04 Jordach kaeza, im only good at the minetest player model
18:04 Jordach style art
18:05 PilzAdam hmmmm, it was already there IIRC
18:05 Jordach kaeza, http://i.imgur.com/2EZ3lmu.png
18:05 PilzAdam the generation is just copy and paste
18:05 Jordach (if you havent seen)
18:05 hmmmm yeah, see, i'm gonna have to change that to noise * scale + offset
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18:07 * Jordach engineers an engineer skin
18:08 kaeza Jordach, that is awesome
18:08 Jordach kaeza, give me a reference image(s) + time = awesomes
18:09 kaeza draw me like one of your french girls
18:09 kaeza :P
18:09 kaeza J/K
18:12 Jordach hahaha
18:12 * Jordach gives face of dissaproval
18:12 Jordach onto some boobs
18:12 Jordach done
18:16 john_minetest ,,(last --from Zeg9 --in #minetest --on freenode)
18:16 PilzAdam john_minetest, MinetestBot is here, ShadowBot seeps
18:16 PilzAdam +l
18:17 Jordach !last zeg9
18:17 PilzAdam and MinetestBot is broken
18:17 Jordach !seen zeg9
18:17 Jordach *
18:17 Jordach aw
18:17 Jordach aww :(
18:19 thexyz 0.4.7 was downloaded 13231 times
18:22 Jordach quick and dirty red engineer: http://i.imgur.com/OLg7nVe.png
18:25 ShadowNinja Jordach: ,,(last --from Zeg9)
18:25 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: [15:17:54] <Zeg9> Hi, rubenwardy
18:26 ShadowNinja Oh, MinetestBot is here. Why didn't it respond? ,,(op MinetestBot)
18:28 Jordach MinetestBot
18:28 Jordach are you okay?
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18:46 * Calinou did a comment on reddit that got 10 points
18:46 Calinou ...source: GNU humor
18:48 Calinou WTF @ Poke
18:48 Calinou he colored his post again
18:48 Calinou teenager spotted
18:49 Jordach Calinou, this isnt #reddit
18:49 Calinou no u
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19:53 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/05mHCqy.png
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20:06 lamefun hi
20:06 lamefun maybe I can simulate rotation of model parts by bones&animation?
20:07 Jordach yesd
20:07 Jordach yes*
20:07 lamefun eg. make an animation of 360 deg rotation and set progress approprieatly?
20:07 lamefun hm
20:08 kaeza lamefun, you can, but there's a catch
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20:08 kaeza you can't use animations and manual bone rotations at the same time
20:08 Calinou Jordach: what's that
20:09 Jordach I'm going to kill you, Chell
20:09 kaeza Jordach, lol c55 skin? :D
20:10 Calinou oh, chell
20:10 * Calinou plays xonotic on camping rifle freezetag server
20:10 Calinou 12 ponies^Wplayers
20:11 kaeza lamefun, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edzDAH6-WQU
20:11 kaeza ^ done using manually placing and rotating bones
20:12 kaeza I should add, it's laggy as hell
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20:23 Jordach my brother wont accept that a HP Pavillion wont boot
20:23 Jordach the bios is FUCKED.
20:23 Jordach it cant find any boot device, even with a ubuntu disc
20:23 Jordach flashing a bios? you need to BOOT.
20:24 FreeFull Well, you could flash the bios by disassembling the machine and flashing the ship directly
20:24 FreeFull But you need the tools and to know what you're doing
20:25 Exio ^
20:25 Exio oh, wait
20:25 Exio i see, he left
20:27 Calinou FreeFull: we're not in the 90s anymore
20:27 lamefun ok
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20:27 Exio Calinou: what?
20:27 FreeFull Calinou: Oh, right, now when something doesn't work we just throw it away and get a new one
20:28 lamefun ok, my armature works, how to make named animations?
20:28 Exio "this mac book pro doesn't work anymore, lemme throw it to the ground until it breaks, then buy a new one"
20:28 sfan5 good night
20:28 Exio night
20:29 kaeza nite sfan
20:30 Calinou FreeFull: no, noone flashes mobos physically today
20:30 kaeza lamefun, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/minetest/mods/Kaeza-animplus-0.1.0.zip
20:31 Calinou but anyway, that's OEM mobos
20:31 kaeza LGPL, same license as MT
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20:39 FreeFull Calinou: I don't recall a time when flashing was mostly done physically
20:39 Calinou the 90s
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20:54 lamefun Joint with specified name not found in skinned mesh.: Pole
20:54 lamefun should I use set_bone_position?
20:58 lamefun I do have a bone named Pole!
21:00 kaeza hmm
21:00 kaeza check in the .x file
21:00 kaeza maybe the modeller adds some prefix to bone names
21:02 lamefun can I use animations instead?
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21:03 lamefun set_animation({x=1,y=1}, frame_speed=15, frame_blend=0)
21:03 lamefun what do x and y mean?
21:03 PilzAdam start and stop frame
21:03 PilzAdam or first and last, whatever you want to call it
21:04 lamefun I can't comprehend anything
21:04 lamefun so for yaw, I should do something like self.object:set_bone_position("Pole", {x=0, y=0, z=0}, {x=math.sin(yaw), y=0, z=math.cos(yaw)})
21:05 lamefun but Blender uses z for up and x,y for ground, should I use Blender coordinates?
21:05 Calinou try? :P
21:06 VanessaE hi all
21:07 lamefun I get
21:07 lamefun Joint with specified name not found in skinned mesh.: Pole
21:07 lamefun and my model gets turned inside out
21:09 kaeza hey VanessaE
21:09 lamefun PilzAdam, but i have several animations, namely "Pitch" and "Yaw"
21:10 kaeza lamefun, bone pos is relative to model origin
21:10 lamefun how do I set both of them?
21:10 kaeza not to orig pos of bone
21:10 lamefun so pos.x + math.sin(yaw)?
21:11 kaeza ehh no
21:11 kaeza why are you setting bone yaw directly in the first place?
21:11 lamefun no idea
21:12 lamefun I have three bones
21:12 lamefun one at base of turret, won't ever move
21:12 lamefun one at pole that rotates horizontally
21:12 lamefun one at head that rotates vertically
21:13 lamefun head is parented to pole
21:13 kaeza the model is rotated to face direction
21:13 kaeza you only need to adjust yaw if it's meant to move yaw
21:13 lamefun I basically have no idea what I'm doing, that's why
21:13 kaeza are you sure you have assigned the vertices to the right bones?
21:14 kaeza (or whatever that is called)
21:16 lamefun kaeza, http://wstaw.org/m/2013/06/16/Screenshot_from_2013-06-17_011504.png
21:17 khonkhortisan Inverse of tonumber("0100",2)? Write your own function.
21:18 kaeza lamefun, what is that bone sticking out of the middle for?
21:18 lamefun pole
21:18 lamefun everything works in Blender
21:18 kaeza no idea then
21:19 kaeza khonkhortisan, you mean dec2bin?
21:19 lamefun it's not a problem with bones
21:19 lamefun rather
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21:20 khonkhortisan Do we have that?
21:20 lamefun exporting works OK, I have turret head in frame 0 position for pitch (head straight down), rather than in rest position (head forward)
21:20 lamefun but
21:20 lamefun I have two animations
21:20 lamefun "Pitch", "Yaw"
21:21 lamefun and set_animation({x=1,y=1}, frame_speed=15, frame_blend=0)  --- incomprehensible
21:22 lamefun what's MT equivalent for the hypothetical function for PEOPLE play_animation(name, start, end, current, frames_per_second)?
21:22 kaeza khonkhortisan, http://pastebin.com/mtmj4FhT
21:23 lamefun so I can just frame = (radians / tau) * 100, play_animation("Yaw", frame, frame, frame, 0)?
21:26 ch98 Does anyone know why minetest only builds as intel even when I change the setting to ppc in xcode?
21:27 lamefun kaeza, BTW, Pole bone is at model origin
21:30 lamefun kaeza, does Minetest even support animation blending?
21:30 kaeza khonkhortisan, is that enuff?
21:30 kaeza lamefun, try using another model format like b3d
21:31 kaeza dunno
21:31 kaeza I don't play too much with models
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21:31 khonkhortisan that's good
21:31 khonkhortisan should it go in commonlib?
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21:31 kaeza if you wish
21:32 mati1 jestem na xchat
21:32 kaeza I could prolly modify it to support dec2any
21:32 mati1 ups sorry ;)
21:32 khonkhortisan I'm on xchat alse.
21:32 khonkhortisan *also.
21:33 khonkhortisan best would be (string, base1, base2)
21:33 khonkhortisan any2any
21:34 khonkhortisan but this is all I need
21:35 lamefun so
21:35 lamefun animation_blend means
21:35 lamefun just position from start to end?
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21:37 kaeza khonkhortisan, http://pastebin.com/mtmj4FhT
21:39 kaeza hmm... any2any would be a tad harder
21:39 khonkhortisan and inefficient if you go through dec first
21:41 kaeza this will be fun
21:41 khonkhortisan I only needed dec2bin :)
21:41 ch98 Why is it that compiling minetest in ppc is so hard?
21:42 kaeza khonkhortisan, I'm bored right now, so I'll make it anyway :P
21:43 lamefun Why is animation APi incomprehensible , is it inherited from irrlicht better clone form DirecTX, proprietary, magical, industry standard!
21:44 PilzAdam lamefun, its completly open source
21:44 PilzAdam go read the sourcecode if you have questions
21:45 kaeza do that with DirectX
21:45 kaeza :D
21:46 PilzAdam kaeza, our animation code has nothing to do with directx
21:46 kaeza PilzAdam, it was a joke
21:46 kaeza you can't see DirectX sources
21:47 kaeza (not legally at least)
21:47 PilzAdam its a bad joke, lamefun is a militant open source fanatic, and I dont want to risk him starting a shitstorm
21:47 lamefun PilzAdam, is it possible to blend 2 animations into one (eg. 120 degree yaw + 60 degree pitch)?
21:48 PilzAdam no, that code is broken AFAIK
21:48 Exio rewriting it in javascript would fix the problem
21:52 khonkhortisan rewriting it in javascript would fix the problem
21:52 khonkhortisan s/in javascript//
21:52 khonkhortisan hmm
21:52 khonkhortisan s/m/mm/
21:52 khonkhortisan bot, where are you?
21:53 Exio it is swimming
22:02 khonkhortisan Looking through the internet, one place does go through decimal to convert between bases.
22:03 john_minetest BYE
22:03 john_minetest oops, caps.
22:04 lamefun kaeza, the bone's name was Armature_Pole, Blender does rename things after all
22:04 khonkhortisan kaeza, function base2base(string, base1, base2) return dec2any(tonumber(string,base1),base2) end
22:04 lamefun but now my model gets upside down
22:05 lamefun after set_bone_position
22:05 lamefun but Armature_Pole only controls part of the mesh
22:05 lamefun ok
22:06 lamefun it not only gets upside down, but inside out too
22:06 kaeza khonkhortisan, that would be an easy implementation
22:06 khonkhortisan yep
22:06 kaeza but does Lua support arbitrary bases with arbitrary symbols?
22:07 kaeza (you can ignore the arbitrary symbols part)
22:07 khonkhortisan dunno - I've seen bases go up to Z
22:08 khonkhortisan http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3554315/lua-base-converter
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22:10 kaeza hmm
22:10 kaeza interesting
22:11 kaeza that may be a faster implementation since it does not call functions
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22:14 kaeza (and uses table.concat)
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22:28 khonkhortisan state -= 1
22:29 khonkhortisan = expected near -, they should make a language that has the features of every language!
22:30 khonkhortisan state =state- 1
22:31 kaeza heh
22:32 kaeza that's one feature I would like to see in Lua
22:32 ch98 is there any way to force xcode to compile minetest in to ppc?
22:32 FreeFull It gets a bit wacky when you do something like ||=
22:33 khonkhortisan I looked it up, and the first thing I find is that I have the common misconception of what it does
22:34 kahrl I just made the F5 display miles better: http://paste.dy.fi/4cJ
22:34 kahrl Btw, locus est omnis divisus in partes tres.
22:34 kaeza FreeFull, (x ? x : y ? y : z ? z | w ? w + 123 : foo : blah)
22:35 FreeFull Ugh, ?: abuse
22:36 khonkhortisan easy to read, hard to understand
22:36 PilzAdam kahrl, problem: there is no 0 in Latin
22:37 kahrl I cheesed out of that problem
22:37 khonkhortisan google that it was Galician
22:38 PilzAdam kahrl, if you have nothing to do: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/332
22:39 * khonkhortisan just tried #string
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22:44 ch98 does anyone know what happened to toabi? Did he just go away after he made minetest fo mac?
22:48 kahrl PilzAdam, I can say why that mostly happens when using tools
22:48 kahrl it only happens when the count of both items is the same
22:48 kahrl tools have stack_max = 1 --> more likely to have the same count
22:48 PilzAdam yea
22:51 PilzAdam why dont we do it the MC way and have the selected item in a pseudo slot
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22:58 kahrl PilzAdam: that's not compatible with the inventory_move/put/take callback paradigm
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23:07 ch98 resolt of my mac ppc experiment: It is almost imopssible to compile minetest in mac ppc unless you can programm another minetest.
23:07 Exio why?
23:08 ch98 Even with very good help, cmake and xcode refuse to make an executable for ppc and build it for intel
23:11 ch98 if anyone has any suggestion on how to fix it, please tell me.
23:14 diemartin well lmgtfy http://stackoverflow.com/questions/822404/how-to-set-up-cmake-to-build-an-app-for-the-iphone
23:15 diemartin apparently, you have to set CMAKE_OSX_ARCHITECTURES
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23:39 ch98 diemartin, that setting automatically change to i368 when i configure
23:40 ch98 it never stayd on ppc
23:40 diemartin well, i368 is an odd architecture indeed
23:41 diemartin :P
23:41 ch98 I am doing it on ppc
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23:44 ch98 can someone test if vnc works long distance?
23:45 ShadowNinja ch98: It does, but lags.
23:45 ch98 how mouch?
23:49 ShadowNinja Well... Depends on your connection and defenitions of lag, among other things.
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23:55 ch98 well I am connecting to computer with this cliant over vnc but there is not mouch lag.
23:56 ch98 fast enough to configure and open minetest, run some debug and read debug file
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