Time Nick Message 00:00 Tesseract Ehm... 00:03 Menche copied the dlls it was complaining about into bin/ 00:03 Menche now it starts but promptly crashes 00:03 Menche on both wine and windows 00:03 PilzAdam well, in my build you can use the menu :-p 00:06 Snake12534 Hiya guys, how are your guys' day so far? 00:07 * Menche is very perturbed at windows and cross-compiling right now 00:07 Snake12534 What's your OS? 00:08 Menche Arch Linux 00:08 Snake12534 That is horrible :/ 00:08 Snake12534 I used to have Windows 8, it is amzing. 00:08 Snake12534 Now I have 7, it isn't as great, but much better than Windows Visa. 00:08 Snake12534 Vista* 00:09 * Menche thinks that windows 8 is horrible and 7 is marginally better 00:09 Menche and Arch linux rules 00:09 Tesseract ^ Agreed. 00:10 Menche at least windows 7 has a normal desktop interface and not a tablet one 00:10 Snake12534 Well, sure. 00:10 Snake12534 But I like the new stuff ^^ 00:10 Snake12534 That's just me. 00:11 Snake12534 so how's minecraft? 00:11 MinetestBot GIT: khonkhortisan commited to minetest/minetest: Fix crash in dump() when index is a table 3e4f1462bc 2013-06-14T17:10:16-07:00 http://git.io/5lEwrw 00:12 Menche haven't played it for a while 00:12 Menche i think most people here haven't 00:12 Snake12534 Minetest and Minecraft same thing? 00:12 Menche well, maybe not most 00:12 Menche no 00:12 khonkhortisan we have a forum thread about that 00:12 Snake12534 I see. 00:12 Menche minetest is a free game similar to minecraft written in c++ rather than java 00:12 Snake12534 In that case, Minecraft is crap. 00:12 khonkhortisan http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6150 00:12 Snake12534 Oh. 00:13 Snake12534 So I suspect Minetest is better? :) 00:13 Snake12534 Who developed this game? 00:13 PilzAdam Snake12534, you are repeating yourself 00:13 Menche celeron55 started it, now there's a bunch of other devs 00:13 Snake12534 ah 00:13 khonkhortisan minetest has a few more things to work out 00:13 Menche it doesn't have quite as many features as minecraft, but tends to perform better and has an easy modding api 00:13 Snake12534 PilzAdam : the games I play are slower in response 00:14 Snake12534 hmm k 00:14 Snake12534 Minecraft on my PC tends to crash often. 00:14 khonkhortisan mods can crash your game too, so it's even :) 00:15 Menche jordach apparently beheads people who mix up minecraft and minetest 00:15 Snake12534 oh, that's sad 00:16 Snake12534 sorry, cause the name is so alike ^ 00:16 khonkhortisan you can call it mesetest if you wish 00:16 Menche huh? 00:16 PilzAdam mesetint work too 00:16 PilzAdam +s 00:16 khonkhortisan minitest 00:16 Menche mesetint was the original minetest 0.4.x lua game mode 00:16 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, no, that Copyright by PilzAdam ;-) 00:16 khonkhortisan oh 00:17 khonkhortisan metaste 00:17 Snake12534 Is khonkhortisan like an admin on minetest? 00:17 khonkhortisan lol no 00:17 Tesseract Snake12534: No, but many of us, including him, develop it. 00:17 khonkhortisan at most, minor contributor 00:17 Menche the mesetint game was never begun, apparently (celeron55's repo is empty) 00:18 Snake12534 Ah 00:18 Snake12534 I only contribute to Ninja Kiwi. 00:18 Menche it's minetest_game now 00:18 Snake12534 For $$ xd 00:18 khonkhortisan You can make a mod that converts real money into minetest money 00:19 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, you are on page 3: https://www.ohloh.net/p/minetest-c55/contributors?page=1&query=&sort=commits 00:19 khonkhortisan very minor 00:19 PilzAdam well, there are 6 pages :-) 00:19 khonkhortisan above average, yay me! 00:20 Tesseract Page 1. :-) But I need to make a lot more to stay up there. 00:20 Exio page 2 :D 00:20 Exio :P 00:20 PilzAdam Note to self: Dont accept ShadowNinja's pull requests for a while :-p 00:21 Snake12534 What is a pull request? 00:21 khonkhortisan So that's who you are 00:21 khonkhortisan A pull request is equivalent to a patch 00:21 PilzAdam Snake12534, we have a central repository for our code, where people send patches 00:21 khonkhortisan a change to the code that you want someone else to add for you 00:21 Snake12534 I see. 00:21 Menche someone makes their own version of minetest and asks for their changes to be added to the official version 00:21 PilzAdam Snake12534, one of the core developers has to check the patch and merge it if its good 00:22 Snake12534 Understandable 00:22 PilzAdam a list of core developers can be found here: http://minetest.net/contributors 00:24 PilzAdam Snake12534, and here are the pull requests if you want to look at them: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pulls 00:24 Snake12534 Okay. 00:27 PilzAdam bye 00:34 Tesseract To close: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/749 00:35 Tesseract Also this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/726 00:37 Tesseract Erm, 65 pull requests? 00:40 Tesseract khonkhortisan: I think we might have talked about this but this is an Irrlight issue: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/678 00:41 khonkhortisan yes it is 00:43 Tesseract Then it should be removed from the Minetest bug tracker, right? 00:56 EnvoyXiphos Im so happy im Back in Minetest 00:57 sokomine then welcome back :-) 00:57 * Tesseract found a bug to fix... 00:57 EnvoyXiphos omg sokomine 00:57 Tesseract My dev install is too old... 00:57 EnvoyXiphos remember me? 00:57 sokomine oh, i'm sure there will always be some bugs 00:58 sokomine vaguely :-) 00:58 EnvoyXiphos Hmm I believe from your 4.1 or 4.3 server 00:58 EnvoyXiphos And I do remember you're a girl 00:59 sokomine yes, that's right. but i never run a server myshelf. at least not more than as a proof-of-concept/a bit playing around 00:59 Exio 4.1? minetest is still 0.! 00:59 sokomine i'm sure he meant 0.4.1 00:59 EnvoyXiphos yeah 01:00 EnvoyXiphos soko I think oldcoder was hosting 01:00 sokomine calinous server? that is now hosted by oldcoder? 01:00 EnvoyXiphos I believe 01:01 sokomine might be. there was a mine at -1000 where we digged and looked at those intresting mese- and diamondnodes that where at -1000 and belonged to calinou :-) 01:01 EnvoyXiphos anyone know what OldCoder is doing? 01:02 sokomine you can still see him around most of the time 01:02 sokomine he regulary joins the channel 01:02 sokomine his server still runs as well 01:02 EnvoyXiphos he is still hosting my 4.3 server 01:03 sokomine on the ex-calinou-server, i did build a small house/farm in the meantime. that server does have the animals mod 01:03 sokomine ah :-) yes. perhaps that's where i remember your name from 01:03 EnvoyXiphos :) I do remember being in a server with you 01:04 Exio am i the only here who doesn't play MT? :( 01:04 EnvoyXiphos maybe 01:04 EnvoyXiphos I havent played for like 6 months\ 01:05 EnvoyXiphos is M13 still around? 01:15 OldCoder Hi 01:15 OldCoder EnvoyXiphos, He is around under other names 01:16 EnvoyXiphos like what? 01:16 OldCoder Folks good evening I will be around this weekend... EnvoyXiphos I will talk to you then 01:16 OldCoder c u o/ 01:24 Tesseract Bug fixed, I just need a good variable name... (selected_serverlist and serverlist_selected is bound to lead to confusion.) 01:26 kahrl Tesseract: this is probably not going to be merged as the whole main menu will be replaced 01:27 Tesseract Oh, right. 01:27 Tesseract Well replace it soon. :-) 01:27 kahrl Stupid RL keeping me from debugging it ;) 01:32 Tesseract !later tell sapier* Is this fixed in the lua main menu? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/672 01:32 Tesseract Seems he isn't registered. 02:07 Menche|away !up 25.15.103.224 02:07 MinetestBot 25.15.103.224:30000 seems to be down 02:20 Exio is anyone here a heavy-mt player? :P 02:20 Exio for comments about #751 (https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751) 02:27 Octupus Hi 02:27 Tesseract I think it should be merged. 02:27 Tesseract Hello! 02:33 Exio hi Octupus 02:51 VanessaE hi all. 02:54 Exio hi VanessaE! 02:55 VanessaE hey 02:59 * Kacey solved OldCoder's latest math puzzle 03:04 EnvoyXiphos lol 03:07 Exio night :P 03:26 khonkhortisan where's that puzzle? 03:46 VanessaE quiet night huh 03:55 khonkhortisan For the mesecon rules, normally it's {{xyz},{xyz},{xyz}}. I'm changing it to also use { {{xyz},{xyz}}, {{xyz},{xyz}} }. That would make it so a node isn't just mesecon.state.on/off anymore, but a binary representation of whether each rule is on or not. 03:56 khonkhortisan Should I make it use state = "thisnode00", states = {"thisnode00","thisnode10","thisnode01","thisnode11"} or only tell it the states it can change to from there? 03:58 khonkhortisan state.on and state.off might be extended to state.01 and state.10 (but lua doesn't like numbers there) 04:01 VanessaE I'm not at all sure. 04:03 khonkhortisan I'll start calling them metarules 04:32 VanessaE khonkhortisan: done yet? ;) 04:43 khonkhortisan no - I've gotten it to not crash when I connect it (partially processing the rules), but haven't gotten rid of the crash when I turn it on (state.on, and partially on) 04:43 VanessaE I was kidding :) 04:46 khonkhortisan But your question parses 04:46 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94815#p94815 <-- wait, what? 04:47 VanessaE khonkhortisan, isn't that exactly the effect you're trying to create with the null cell? 04:47 VanessaE oh wait 04:47 VanessaE nevermind, I misread that 04:47 khonkhortisan it only conducts from axis-opposite faces :) 04:48 VanessaE yeah, I read that as "it conducts TO axis-opposite" :) 04:48 khonkhortisan When mesecons is able to conduct using the full facedir, all the nodes will be looked at for duplicates and missing ones 04:48 VanessaE so there are plans to rewrite it for 6dfacedir? 04:48 khonkhortisan I have plans 04:49 khonkhortisan even if it requires a screwdriver 04:49 VanessaE good. Use the code in Homedecor lighting.lua to help with the placement prediction :) 04:49 VanessaE that'll reduce the need for the screwdriver. 04:49 khonkhortisan simple as facedir->xyz rotation, and rotating the rule vector by that. 04:49 VanessaE rotation of vectors...doesn't rubenwardy have some code for that? 04:49 khonkhortisan but we'd have to reinvent the wheel to rotate vectors 04:50 khonkhortisan commonlib didn't get that far 04:50 VanessaE damn 04:50 khonkhortisan https://github.com/rubenwardy/commonlib/blob/master/README.md 04:51 khonkhortisan oh, there's rotate_y 04:52 khonkhortisan and commonlib needs a table copy, I have two mods that have different versions of it 04:52 VanessaE ruben' 04:52 VanessaE ruben's node ownership check is out of date anyway 04:52 khonkhortisan I see you're using qwerty 04:52 VanessaE zeg9 made some improvements to the one in homedecor 04:53 VanessaE heh yeah 04:53 VanessaE when I used my C128 to chat, you could always tell then, too - 7 instead of ' (shift-7) half the time :) 04:54 khonkhortisan as soon as you pour something into the keys, you have to replace the whole computer? 04:55 VanessaE thankfully not 05:35 khonkhortisan Do we have per-nodebox textures? I haven't been keeping up 05:39 khonkhortisan joined, startled a rat. It ran away from me. I followed it and fell to my death. 05:42 VanessaE nope. 05:42 VanessaE closest we have is meshes, and those don't apply to nodes. 05:56 sfan5 good morning 05:57 VanessaE mornin' 05:57 VanessaE sfan5: do you have any plans to rewrite your old particles mod to use the recently-added particle spawner, at least for torches? 06:09 sfan5 yes 06:14 VanessaE cool 06:53 khonkhortisan eight minutes to morning for me 06:53 khonkhortisan the particle spawner doesn't support rain 06:58 VanessaE it does, but the rain doesn't "collide" I guess 06:59 khonkhortisan it does if you never look up or down 07:00 VanessaE I mean with buildings etc, so it rains inside if there's enough light :-) 07:00 khonkhortisan they alls 07:00 khonkhortisan whoops 07:01 khonkhortisan it also rains inside if you're standing outside looking in 07:01 VanessaE although, 07:01 VanessaE didn't I see a commit or pull request or something that *does* add particle collisions? 07:02 khonkhortisan probably. But then you'd have rain standing on end. 07:02 VanessaE I wonder if a shader is better for such things 07:04 khonkhortisan My knowledge ends at that question. 07:05 khonkhortisan Congratulations! You've defeated KhonBot! 07:05 VanessaE heh 09:38 MarkTwain Hello 09:38 MarkTwain How do i compile mosstest> 09:40 Jordach you dont 09:40 Jordach its JAVA 09:41 Jordach and its not even ready 09:41 FreeFull Java can be compiled 09:41 Jordach so why are you asking these questions 09:41 MarkTwain How do i play it? 09:41 Jordach YOU CANT, 09:42 MarkTwain Then what do i do with it! 09:42 Jordach nothing 09:42 Jordach wait till its actually any good first 09:42 sfan5 !g mosstest 09:42 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.hamworthy.com/PageFiles/1756/Moss%20Test%20Hall.pdf 09:43 MarkTwain irrelevant 09:43 Jordach rarkenin is cloning MT with JAVA 09:44 FreeFull Someone already tried that before 09:50 Jordach whats the flat mapgen option for minetest 09:51 Jordach found it 09:52 TheLastProject Why would you clone Minetest in Java? Isn't Minetest being in C++ a good thing? 09:56 * sfan5 found out how to get the version from a minetest executable: strings minetest.exe | grep -E "VER=([^ ]+)" -o | sed -s 's/VER=//' | head -n1 09:59 * Jordach builds a 7 segment display with api 10:10 rubenwardy Hi all! 10:11 Jordach heres the bus for my 7 segment display: http://i.imgur.com/HGQIuMr.png 10:17 rubenwardy nice! 10:17 Jordach rubenwardy, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-06-14#i_3141906 10:17 rubenwardy where is the bus stop? 10:18 Jordach rubenwardy, i was talking about data bus 10:18 rubenwardy wow 10:18 rubenwardy yeah, I know 10:18 rubenwardy winding you up :P 8) 10:18 Jordach thats in the smallest possible size without microcontrollers 10:19 rubenwardy ah 10:43 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94845#p94845 there 10:44 Jordach you can now actually get my skins 10:45 Exio aw, i wonder for what xyz.is is used 10:46 thexyz uh 10:46 thexyz for different things 10:46 Exio like? :P 10:48 thexyz well, there are some subdomains 10:51 thexyz oh, you probably know about one which watches you 10:51 Jordach yeah, nsa.xyz.is 10:57 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:58 Jordach hello 11:00 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94845#p94845 11:00 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=6092 11:00 Jordach dafuq 11:07 Jordach hmm 11:08 Jordach i just made a pixely minetest logo 11:09 rubenwardy The food mod is getting an API! 11:09 Jordach does the minetest model actually SUPPORT alpha transparencies 11:10 rubenwardy Including: on domand ingredient declaration 11:10 Jordach demand* 11:10 rubenwardy simplified food declaration 11:10 rubenwardy yeah 11:10 Jordach also: why did the food mod become virgin media :P 11:10 rubenwardy huh? 11:10 rubenwardy oh, on demand 11:10 Jordach on demand? 11:11 rubenwardy It means if none of the foods use an ingredient, that ingredient is not defined 11:11 rubenwardy Pacman: http://ubuntuone.com/7LSZWFoHKS51rPSGh2agM0 11:11 Jordach if i know the minetest model supports alpha transparencies: http://i.imgur.com/Kg0NRgB.png 11:12 PilzAdam how about testing it? 11:12 Jordach how about fuck yeah 11:13 Jordach PilzAdam, 94.249.210.106 11:13 Jordach join 11:13 Jordach !up 94.249.210.106 11:13 MinetestBot 94.249.210.106:30000 seems to be down 11:13 Jordach damn 11:13 Jordach server's dead 11:17 Jordach !up 5.231.50.51 11:17 MinetestBot 5.231.50.51:30000 is up (97ms) 11:17 Jordach better 11:17 Jordach !up minetest.ru 11:17 MinetestBot minetest.ru:30000 is up (199ms) 11:17 Jordach HAHA 11:17 Jordach better ping 11:18 TheLastProject Jordach: How exactly is 199ms a "better ping" than 97ms? 11:18 Jordach PilzAdam, nope. the engine does not support alpha skins 11:18 Jordach TheLastProject, i meant to mine 11:18 TheLastProject Hmm, k~ 11:22 Jordach removed skin 11:53 PilzAdam bbl 11:59 rubenwardy I might try that 11:59 rubenwardy can lua do image editing? 12:00 rubenwardy or would you use seperate entities? 12:06 Jordach SHIT 12:06 Jordach fuck 12:06 Jordach motherfuckin dungeon master ninja'd me 12:07 Jordach *places torch* FUCK 12:09 Jordach sup bro 12:09 Jordach anyways, im out for a bit 12:12 lamefun is there an ObjectRef:dead method? 12:13 lamefun sometimes obj:getpos() returns nil and I suspect that's because it's dead 12:14 rubenwardy Announcement: Chatplus! adds /ignore and /unignore to the game 12:14 rubenwardy coming soon 12:15 rubenwardy Also adds an inbox, so players can send messages to you when you are off line 12:20 thexyz rubenwardy: coming when? 12:20 rubenwardy later today 12:21 thexyz okay 12:27 TheLastProject Dungeon Master? Wut? 12:32 rubenwardy I might add highting to chatplus 12:38 rubenwardy *highlighting 13:40 rubenwardy thexyz: https://github.com/rubenwardy/chatplus 13:43 rubenwardy Can a mod unsticky and possibily delete this? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3656 13:48 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6273 13:48 rubenwardy !title 13:48 MinetestBot rubenwardy: [Mod] Chat plus [0.1 -!- ignore] [chatplus] (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums 13:51 rubenwardy Can a moderator move the above topic to releases? 13:52 rubenwardy VanessaE, thexyz, sfan5 13:52 sfan5 rubenwardy: Dependencies missing 13:53 rubenwardy added 13:54 rubenwardy sfan5 :P 13:54 sfan5 moved 13:55 rubenwardy Thank you 13:57 rubenwardy Can you unsticky this, sfan5? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3656 13:57 rubenwardy It is obsolete 13:58 sfan5 done 13:58 rubenwardy Thanks 14:02 sfan5 TIL github changed its design 14:03 thexyz rubenwardy: you forgot to close the file in chatplus.load 14:03 rubenwardy ah 14:04 rubenwardy fixed 14:04 rubenwardy woops 14:05 rubenwardy it is fixed now 14:05 sfan5 is there a statistic for the number of forum members on forum.minetest.net 14:05 sfan5 ? 14:06 rubenwardy see main page 14:06 rubenwardy Total number of registered users: 6,067 14:06 rubenwardy lol http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94890#p94890 14:08 rubenwardy Total number of topics: 5,748 14:08 rubenwardy Total number of posts: 87,323 14:08 PilzAdam rubenwardy, you made a mistake, but whatever 14:09 rubenwardy huh? 14:13 * rubenwardy now has 6 mods 14:13 rubenwardy sfan5, it was 3 months since you last updated this:n http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4596 14:14 sfan5 ... 14:15 sfan5 enabling mesecons in the configure world menu is a fucking pain in the ass 14:15 Exio enabling mods in that menu is a pita, always 14:16 PilzAdam sfan5, you can use "Enable all" on modpacks 14:17 sfan5 PilzAdam: it doesn't show that button when the modpack is named the same as an existing mod 14:19 RealBadAngel sfan5, can i have your windows build script? 14:22 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, we had there code to force blocks to stay loaded, whats about it? 14:24 rubenwardy Skin idea, Jordach: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/File:C55.jpg 14:25 rubenwardy oh, not here 14:29 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic_game 14:29 RealBadAngel this is going to be main repo for technic_game 14:30 PilzAdam the directory structure is wrong 14:30 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, what do you mean? 14:30 PilzAdam there needs to be a game.conf and mods go into the mods/ folder 14:31 RealBadAngel oh shit 14:32 TheLastProject No description? :( 14:34 RealBadAngel i just copied wrong level 14:34 RealBadAngel dumb me 14:34 PilzAdam dumb(RealBadAngel) 14:35 Exio poor RealBadAngel 14:35 RealBadAngel :P 14:35 Exio RealBadAngel: are you actually working with the shaders/lighting?? 14:35 RealBadAngel yes 14:36 RealBadAngel had a little pause, because i moved to a new flat and was cut off from the world 14:36 RealBadAngel i mean internet 14:41 RealBadAngel damn, LTE is a bit better when uploading 14:42 RealBadAngel with cable i had 1mbps upload, now i have 50mbps 14:43 Calinou RealBadAngel has LTE? O_o 14:43 Calinou enjoy your $150 bill 14:43 RealBadAngel not really 14:43 RealBadAngel i got fixed plan, 59.90 PLN 14:44 RealBadAngel which makes circa 25 USD 14:46 RealBadAngel im not sure if i gonna keep this LTE connection, i have one week for testing 14:46 RealBadAngel but so far i do like it 14:47 RealBadAngel its really fast 14:48 PilzAdam this guy should work as our commit log: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94913#p94913 14:49 RealBadAngel hehe, hire him 14:51 RealBadAngel oke doke, looks like directory structure is now ok for technic_game 14:52 PilzAdam copy and paste from minetest_game? 14:52 PilzAdam (readme, logo, header...) 14:52 RealBadAngel at start yes 14:53 RealBadAngel i had more things done when i was offline but now i decided to update 14:54 RealBadAngel 2 weeks being offline changed a lot 14:55 RealBadAngel so, i made by now a starting point 14:56 RealBadAngel btw, you say that icon is the same? 14:57 PilzAdam yes... ? 14:57 RealBadAngel i do have bumpmapping and water reflections here 14:57 RealBadAngel beat me 14:57 RealBadAngel please 14:57 RealBadAngel ;) 14:59 RealBadAngel i have talked to Taoki last night about shaders and lights 15:00 RealBadAngel we have agreed that pushing any shaders code, before lights are done doesnt make any sence 15:00 Taoki Yeah. very eager to see those up and working :) 15:00 Exio the only change 15:00 Taoki Yes. HW lighting shader needs to be done first IMO 15:00 Exio i would "do" by now 15:00 Exio is making the names not test_ 15:00 RealBadAngel speakin of the "devil" :) 15:01 Exio what? 15:01 Taoki For those who haven't seen the thread BTW. I think I have a code plan for the lighting shader that works. Just needs someone to write the code since I might not have the knowledge to 15:01 RealBadAngel say "Taoki" and she will pop up ;) 15:01 Taoki Idea is that every light source should send the param1 of the nodes it affects (or bettersaid, the amount of param1 influence) to the shader 15:02 Taoki And use those for range if possible. 15:02 Exio PilzAdam / RealBadAngel, bothering you, what do you think about #754? 15:02 RealBadAngel direct link? 15:03 Exio https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/754 15:03 * RealBadAngel is lazy ;) 15:03 Taoki So each light is sent from MT to the shader under this form: (v3f light_origin, int light_intensity, list[x] nodes_and_param1) 15:03 RealBadAngel not my area of expetize definitely 15:04 Exio http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-06-15#i_3142384 15:04 PilzAdam Exio, kahrl has agreed on this? 15:04 Exio just for that :P 15:04 Exio yep 15:04 PilzAdam seems good 15:04 RealBadAngel Taoki, we need a limit for light sources aroud 15:05 PilzAdam (havent tested the exact same patch as in the pull request, though) 15:05 Taoki Can be easy. We get which light is closest to the player and only render X closest 15:05 RealBadAngel wait 15:05 RealBadAngel there can be many sources around 15:06 RealBadAngel torches, laps, turned on machines and the sun 15:06 RealBadAngel for example 15:06 RealBadAngel *lamps 15:06 Exio PilzAdam: it is the same workaround as used actually for freetype in the intlGUIEditBox.cpp:279~ 15:07 Taoki RealBadAngel: Sure. And their lights might also be overlapping 15:08 Taoki That's why I said to do this properly, we can send each light source with a list of nodes and the light's param1 influence on them. To make sure each light is applied and limited properly 15:08 PilzAdam Exio, seems good then 15:08 RealBadAngel yes, but we need somehow to limit number of possible light sources 15:08 Taoki So if placing a torch on a block causes that block to get param1 increased by 13, we send the node ID or position + that amount of param1 addition to the shader (with that light). Same for all blocks affacted 15:08 RealBadAngel thus, it raises problem which source is more important 15:08 Exio near 15:09 Taoki That can be done with a simple origin check. A later concern though 15:09 Exio for what would you need the light source, anyway? 15:09 Exio light source "position" 15:09 Taoki Exio: For the hardware light to shine properly from that location 15:09 RealBadAngel Exio, answer is "all of it" 15:10 Exio hm 15:10 RealBadAngel we are makin eye candies 15:10 Exio talking about eye candy, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751 15:10 Exio !title 15:10 Exio :P 15:10 MinetestBot Exio: Use the console instead of a dedicated window when pressing keymap_chat/cmd by EXio4 · Pull Request[...] 15:13 RealBadAngel Exio, eye candie is this: http://i.imgur.com/i692bUl.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/fwWzMMk.jpg 15:14 Exio RealBadAngel: just bugging around 15:14 MinetestBot GIT: EXio4 commited to minetest/minetest: Add basic unicode support to the console (linux workaround) 93dfc3ec70 2013-06-15T08:09:11-07:00 http://git.io/4_UGAQ 15:15 RealBadAngel Exio, point is i do have lotsa shader code ready, but it needs light sources 15:16 Exio i know that, but i just posted my link to bug someone to try it 15:16 RealBadAngel without it, its just fakin we do have light 15:17 RealBadAngel Exio, i havent even opened this file in geany 15:17 RealBadAngel never 15:18 Exio aw 15:18 RealBadAngel ask me for somethin related to mapblock_mesh.cpp or similar :) 15:19 RealBadAngel and i can tell you at which line # is specific piece of code 15:20 sfan5 RealBadAngel: ... 15:20 RealBadAngel this project has grown so much that single person is not able to know everything 15:21 RealBadAngel and i no wonder anymore that c55 gave away rights 15:22 RealBadAngel sfan5, yes? 15:22 sfan5 you can have it 15:22 RealBadAngel plz plz plz 15:22 RealBadAngel i kinda need it 15:23 RealBadAngel my friend's son is playing mt on windows 15:23 RealBadAngel and screaming for updates 15:26 RealBadAngel btw, offtopic: i got this LTE modem yesterday 15:26 sfan5 RealBadAngel: uploading 15:27 RealBadAngel it was reallly funny to see girls at the booth face, when i said "sorry, i dont have Windows" 15:28 sfan5 RealBadAngel: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/minetest-buildbot.zip 15:28 Taoki BBL 15:28 RealBadAngel sfan5, thx :) 15:29 RealBadAngel folks think Windows are the only way 15:45 sfan5 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4596 15:45 sfan5 !title 15:45 MinetestBot sfan5: Topics wrongly formatted, missing license, etc.. [Updated: 2013-06-15] (Page 1) — Mod Releases —[...] 15:56 thexyz are adf.ly links allowed? 15:57 sfan5 theres no rule against it 15:57 thexyz hm.. then we probably need to make one before it's too late 15:57 PilzAdam I still dont like it and usually start a shitstorm 15:57 thexyz oh! 15:57 thexyz PilzAdam->target("http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3003"); 15:57 sfan5 !title 15:57 MinetestBot sfan5: [Game] Dwarves [dwarves] [github] (Page 1) — Minetest Games — Minetest Forums 15:58 VanessaE good morning all (or afternoon now I guess) 15:58 sfan5 17:58 15:58 * sfan5 wants IPv6 15:59 VanessaE for me anyway :) 15:59 sfan5 MinetestBot! 15:59 MinetestBot sfan5! 15:59 thexyz all image hosts but imgur should be disallowed as well 16:00 PilzAdam thexyz, move it to modding general, -ND license is not supported 16:00 sfan5 thexyz: nah, imageshack and mediafire are ok as long as the people use direct links (yes, mediafire supports direct image links) 16:00 thexyz imageshack sucks because no one uses direct links 16:01 thexyz "oh, hi, let me show you this image thumbnailed to 200x100" 16:01 sfan5 imageshack is fail, because you need to log in to use the link, but you can simply open the textbox in element inspector and copy the contents 16:02 sfan5 s/you need to/they say you need to/ 16:02 thexyz "wanna see full size? let me open 10 popups" 16:02 sfan5 what about "No thumbnail images, only full size images" 16:03 thexyz sfan5: no 16:04 sfan5 whatever, I'm fine with disallowing imageshack 16:04 hmmmm probably a good idea, imageshack at one point even had malware on it 16:04 sfan5 really? 16:04 sfan5 !g news imageshack malwae 16:04 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.wowhead.com/news=181747/imageshack-links-installing-malware-blocked-on-wowhead 16:05 hmmmm a couple years back yeah 16:05 thexyz sfan5: by the way, this is not your browser 16:05 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6274 16:05 thexyz !title 16:05 MinetestBot thexyz: The Coolness of Being Random (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums 16:05 thexyz ❤❤❤ 16:06 PilzAdam mitori, why do you use adfly links? 16:07 mitori because they're short? 16:07 mitori why do you ask? 16:07 PilzAdam I dont like people trying to get money in an open source project 16:08 thexyz ugh 16:08 sfan5 what about... 16:08 hmmmm pilzadam, why not? RMS used to make money off of emacs 16:08 sfan5 !sh 16:08 MinetestBot sfan5: Give me an url shorten service and an address 16:08 MinetestBot sfan5: Supported Services: is.gd, v.gd 16:08 sfan5 ^ these 16:09 thexyz what's the point of using shorteners anyway? 16:09 thexyz this is not twitter, you're not limited to 140 chats 16:09 thexyz *chars 16:10 thexyz PilzAdam: you forgot to mention one thing 16:10 thexyz mitori: Any game or content included therein that disallows derivatives cannot be published on this forum. These include CC NoDerivs and pretty much any closed source licenses. 16:10 mitori what. 16:13 Calinou PilzAdam: getting money with open source is fine, but adfly is not 16:13 Calinou i'd rather have people making money with open source than closed source 16:13 Calinou this is always better 16:14 PilzAdam true 16:16 sfan5 Currently online: 38 guests, 14 registered users 16:16 sfan5 \o/ 16:17 PilzAdam 42 16 now 16:17 sfan5 *45 16:17 mitori sfan5 excuse me, but i don't see what you're happy about 16:18 sfan5 mitori: about all the people that are online 16:18 mitori ....okay. 16:19 sokomine here in irc or on a mt server? a server with that many users would be impressive 16:19 PilzAdam sokomine, forum 16:19 sokomine ah, ok 16:20 sokomine now get them all to join one server :-) 16:20 PilzAdam 47 16:21 sfan5 48 16:21 khonkhortisan ^ me 16:22 khonkhortisan or not, I'm logged in. Huh. 16:24 sokomine might have been me. unless i did coult before 16:25 PilzAdam awwww 40 16:25 khonkhortisan 37 14 16:31 ShadowNinja New flood detection techneque: CAPS floods. 16:32 khonkhortisan "SORRY I LEFT MY CAPS LOCK ON" 16:33 * sfan5 customized his user agent string 16:33 ShadowNinja It is in test mode ATM and it is too lenient. One non-caps character is all it takes currently. 16:34 khonkhortisan so then I can ACCENT my text 16:34 khonkhortisan How many caps does it take? 16:37 ShadowNinja All currently, what do you think the ratio should be? 16:37 VanessaE ShadowNinja: none at all, leave that out. 16:37 khonkhortisan I agree, all caps seems fine enough 16:37 ShadowNinja Well I can leave it disabled, but I would like to finish it. 16:38 khonkhortisan but I think the length of the sentence should matter? 16:38 khonkhortisan I 16:38 khonkhortisan ^ shouldn't get caught 16:39 ShadowNinja Catching that is fine, it takes three in a row. 16:39 VanessaE maybe 50 capital letters or 75% of the sentence, whichever has a higher count. 16:39 ShadowNinja (To trigger a punishment) 16:39 khonkhortisan that would be 100% of a single-character sentence 16:40 * khonkhortisan ponders how to represent binary in lua 16:49 ShadowNinja Works properly now. Would requiring five messages with too many caps be OK VanessaE? 16:49 ShadowNinja (Or just about any reasonable number, it has a history of 1000 messages) 16:50 Calinou meh, anticaps sucks 16:50 Calinou ShadowNinja: however, make the antispam less strict 16:50 Calinou > 5 lines is spam 16:50 Calinou 3 lines isn't 16:51 ShadowNinja Calinou: Done (for caps). 16:51 Calinou talking about antispam, not anticaps 16:53 VanessaE Calinou: not spam, flooding 16:54 VanessaE spam != too many messages. spam == unsolicited commercial advertizements 16:54 ShadowNinja Also done for paste floods, doing it for a repetition flood doesn't seem to make much sense and the other detectors work differently. 16:54 khonkhortisan spamflood = both 17:43 MinetestBot GIT: ffrogger _zero_ at yahoo dot com commited to minetest/minetest: Removed a redundant step which degraded performance 0413f8ad9d 2013-06-15T10:41:30-07:00 http://git.io/FozPBg 17:44 Calinou cool 18:01 VanessaE New build: 29ef1f84[...] 18:02 VanessaE (has pilzadam's flowing liquid CPU-limiter patch) 18:03 Calinou TIL ironzorg lives in france 18:03 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=525 18:03 Calinou someone bumped that topic 18:36 iqualfragile linux, you no compile faster? 18:39 Calinou y u no use stock kernels 18:40 TheLastProject y u use stock kernels 18:40 FreeFull iqualfragile: Are you doing a multithreaded compile? 18:40 iqualfragile jup 18:41 iqualfragile stock kernels, y u no boot faster? 18:41 Calinou 21 seconds from pressng button to log in 18:41 Calinou SURE 18:41 iqualfragile i am down to 1.2 secs for user 18:41 TheLastProject TWENTY ONE? 18:41 Calinou and this is with a msi mobo, by no means the fastest in terms of POST 18:41 iqualfragile and kernel takes 5.1 sec 18:42 iqualfragile so that needs to be exterminated 18:42 FreeFull I remember when booting used to take minutes 18:42 FreeFull Minutes! 18:42 TheLastProject I'm done after ~11 seconds including my overly high amount of daemons 18:42 Calinou sounds like chinese minetest 18:42 iqualfragile yeah, windows xp, that were times 18:42 TheLastProject Thinking of that, I don't really need MySQL... 18:42 Calinou TheLastProject: do you have a SSD? 18:42 Calinou are you including POST? 18:42 TheLastProject I don't have a SSD 18:43 TheLastProject And no, POST has nothing to do with the kernel 18:43 Calinou it still makes for most of the boot time 18:43 iqualfragile boot time measurements are allways from grub to login, aren't they? 18:43 Calinou no 18:43 TheLastProject I measure from GRUB to login, at least :P 18:43 Calinou boot time almost always includes POST else you are unrealistic 18:43 Matsetes Hi! 18:43 TheLastProject But the kernel speed has nothing to do with POST 18:43 Matsetes Where can I find how to craft dyes? 18:44 FreeFull You can make POST faster by flashing a different bios 18:44 Calinou or not 18:44 Calinou FreeFull: you usually disable unneeded features in BIOS 18:44 Calinou some mobos have presets for that 18:44 TheLastProject Gimme coreboot :| 18:45 Calinou challenge: put coreboot on a mpower 18:45 Calinou :phoronix rolleyes: 18:48 iqualfragile finaly done, hope it worked 18:48 iqualfragile i realy need to choose an mainboard supporting coreboot next time i buy one 18:48 iqualfragile those get to grub in about 3 secs 18:49 Calinou lol 19:00 sfan5 Exio: ping 19:00 Exio pong 19:09 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #109 from Novatux/mvps_fix c14cb331fe 2013-06-15T12:08:41-07:00 http://git.io/48o7Lg 19:09 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix pistons not updating the nodes when placing them again. 6efe579f68 2013-06-15T10:15:43-07:00 http://git.io/LWa0Tg 19:47 sfan5 why the fuck does every program use the slow ftp.gnu.org server? >.< 19:47 iqualfragile what kind of program? 19:47 PilzAdam my "hello world" program doesnt 19:47 sfan5 buildroot 19:47 sfan5 PilzAdam: you know what I mean 19:48 iqualfragile you can change that 19:48 PilzAdam sfan5, nope 19:48 sfan5 PilzAdam: ... 19:48 iqualfragile i know what PilzAdam means 19:48 iqualfragile #!/bin/bash 19:48 PilzAdam :-p 19:48 iqualfragile echo "Hello World!" 19:48 khonkhortisan that's a script 19:50 Calinou sfan5, fast internet is non-free 20:35 VanessaE zzz 20:52 sfan5 VanessaE: ? 20:52 VanessaE hm? 20:52 sfan5 <VanessaE> zzz 20:52 VanessaE just my way of noting that it's gotten quiet in here, in fewer words :) 20:53 VanessaE (kinda surprised, it used to be busy as hell this time of day) 20:54 * sfan5 thinks about adding a searchable channel log to MinetestBot 20:55 Exio i will talk if you highlight me :P 20:55 Exio i think i count as idler ^^ 20:55 * VanessaE highlights Exio ... just because. 20:56 Exio ew, about what do you me to talk? :P 20:56 VanessaE I dunno :P 20:57 sfan5 yay! buildroot finished building 20:57 Exio what is your cpu sfan5? 20:57 Exio i got the pull request 777 :D 20:58 sfan5 Exio: 20:58 sfan5 vendor_id : GenuineIntel 20:58 sfan5 cpu family : 6 20:58 sfan5 model : 42 20:58 sfan5 model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz 20:58 Exio haha 20:58 sfan5 :/ 20:58 sfan5 shouldn't ShadowBot ignore me? 20:58 Exio no idea 20:59 Exio would anyone that plays MT try https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751 ? 20:59 Exio i want comments about the "normal usage" of it 20:59 sfan5 hm, should I remove the arm-linux-* symlinks 20:59 VanessaE Exio: it takes some getting used to but I like it. 20:59 PilzAdam Exio, there are still some points that can be fixed 20:59 Exio PilzAdam: what points? 21:00 PilzAdam e.g. if you press Esc dont open the pause menu 21:00 Exio already "fixed" 21:00 PilzAdam oh 21:00 Exio the only thing that i can't "fix" is the f10 bug 21:00 Exio :P 21:00 Exio but afaik there is a f10-similar bug for the actual chat window 21:01 Exio this is sad 21:01 Exio downloading the packages takes way more than compiling them... 21:02 Exio PilzAdam: what other things? 21:02 Exio to "fix" 21:02 Exio maybe making the console default alpha value a bit "lower" by default? 21:04 PilzAdam what about copy and paste? 21:05 PilzAdam well, paste, copy is not so important 21:05 Calinou +1 for slightly lower console alphe 21:05 PilzAdam no, the alpha is good 21:05 VanessaE G*D yes we need working copy&past3e 21:05 PilzAdam everyone feel free to adjust it in minetest.conf 21:05 VanessaE copy&paste* 21:05 * Calinou would like to see an "Advanced settings" button in "Settings", where you could see checkboxes and sliders for ALL settings 21:05 PilzAdam Calinou, -> lua menu 21:05 Calinou VanessaE, gigabyte answers: "Use Windows" :P 21:06 PilzAdam VanessaE, it works if I select the paste in Klipper (the KDE paste program) 21:07 PilzAdam (not in the console, though) 21:08 VanessaE no way at all to paste into the game for me, though I can copy out from the existing 't' chat/command line dialog. 21:08 VanessaE (xfce clipman isn't enough) 21:09 PilzAdam \o/ first result when searching "Irrlicht numpad Linux" in ixquick: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/373 21:09 VanessaE and the F10 screen will break even that much - can't even copy out at all from there. 21:10 VanessaE supposedly fixed in irrlicht. fat lota good that does us. 21:10 VanessaE lotta* 21:11 VanessaE noting the date, obviously that fix either never made it to the ubuntu packages or the irrlicht git repo, or it was for a different bug. 21:11 VanessaE http://sourceforge.net/p/irrlicht/bugs/247/ 21:11 PilzAdam seconf result: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3792 21:11 PilzAdam -f+d 21:13 VanessaE the numpad works perfectly for me in both F10 and the 't' window. 21:14 PilzAdam only 3, 0 and 9 work in the Irrlicht textfields, and no key works in the console 21:14 Exio i'm starting my windows vm for testing something 21:14 Exio woo 21:15 Exio it was a 10 seconds boot 21:15 sfan5 Exio: how do I make a static executable with the toolchain? 21:15 VanessaE PilzAdam: for me, the whole numpad works, no issues whatsoever in menus, 't' window, F10... 21:15 Calinou VMs boot quicker than bare metal, Exio 21:17 Exio sfan5: -static (and -Os -s) 21:17 Exio Calinou: i don't count the bios in the system boot time 21:20 Exio http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/classirr_1_1_i_o_s_operator.html 21:26 sfan5 good night 21:26 VanessaE night 21:26 Exio night sfan5 21:27 Exio and, good damnit 21:27 Exio getTextFromClipboard is.. returning nothing :( 21:29 PilzAdam VanessaE, why is your server so slow? 21:29 VanessaE slow in what way?> 21:29 VanessaE you timed out is why. 21:30 PilzAdam it takes ages to connect, and then sending item defs, node defs, and media is _really_slow 21:30 VanessaE same old media download slowness as usual 21:30 VanessaE I don't use cURL like some do, I consider it a security risk and a stupid hack 21:31 VanessaE so you're getting the media the only way MT knows how - through its' slower-than-shit UDP media fetching code :) 21:31 VanessaE its* 21:31 PilzAdam no 21:31 PilzAdam its worse 21:32 VanessaE seems normal here 21:33 VanessaE nothing out of the ordinary. maybe just normal network lag between you and I? 21:33 PilzAdam well, it was always faster 21:33 PilzAdam do you have many new mods installed? 21:34 PilzAdam and why doesnt Minetest cache meshes? 21:34 VanessaE nothing unusual. I added future_ban the other day, that's about it, and of course I keep my game up-to-date 21:34 VanessaE ask taoki about that one 21:34 VanessaE he's the mesh expert :) 21:34 PilzAdam Taoki|away, ping 21:35 Exio VanessaE: she* 21:35 Uberi PilzAdam: future_ban is brilliant! 21:35 PilzAdam Exio, *he 21:36 PilzAdam see his youtube videos 21:36 Exio k 21:36 VanessaE Exio: he. 21:36 VanessaE he's said as much,. 21:38 PilzAdam WTFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 21:38 Exio wat!!! 21:38 PilzAdam my fucking WLAN 21:39 PilzAdam was almost finished with download media 21:39 PilzAdam 21:37:44: ERROR[main]: Client disconnected 21:39 Exio haha 21:39 * PilzAdam rages 21:39 PilzAdam !kick PilzAdam 21:40 PilzAdam MinetestBot! 21:40 MinetestBot PilzAdam! 21:40 Uberi VanessaE: didn't you publish the cache folder sometime in the past? 21:40 VanessaE yep 21:40 VanessaE it's a little out of date, but still usable. 21:41 VanessaE I'll prepare a fresh one right now. 21:43 PilzAdam VanessaE, can you please reduce the length of your motd? it almost covers the whole 800x600 window 21:44 VanessaE PilzAdam: it's hard enough getting people to fricken read it as it is :-/ 21:45 VanessaE there, the cache download is updated 21:45 Uberi maybe more people would read it if it were shorter :P 21:45 PilzAdam ^ 21:45 PilzAdam also, the link in there makes no sense at all 21:45 PilzAdam and it says "use 0.4.6" 21:45 VanessaE oops 21:45 VanessaE ok I'll fix it. 21:46 PilzAdam "Version: latest git | Interact priv: ask in forum | No griefing, be polite, use common human sense" 21:46 PilzAdam ^ there you go 21:46 Menche my server hasn't shown up on the serverlist for ages 21:47 Menche but it says that it's announcing 21:48 Uberi Menche: is the master server address right? 21:48 Menche servers.minetest.net 21:48 Exio PilzAdam: what is your buildwin32.sh script? 21:49 Menche that's serverlist_url, right? 21:49 Uberi I think so yeah 21:49 Menche it says that it is announcing 21:49 PilzAdam Exio, modified version of the buildbot in util/ 21:49 Exio can i have it? :P 21:50 PilzAdam it wouldnt run 21:50 Exio why not? 21:50 PilzAdam I have removed the download part and link to already downloaded libs 21:50 Exio (just paste it) 21:51 PilzAdam it also git pulls in an existing clone of the repo instead of redownloading it all the time 21:51 VanessaE PilzAdam: look now. 21:51 Exio that is what i want 21:51 VanessaE fuck 21:51 VanessaE typo'd 21:51 Exio i want to see how you may have implemented that 21:51 Exio haha 21:51 Exio poor VanessaE :P 21:52 PilzAdam I also have splitted it up into 4 scripts 21:52 Exio upload all of them, then 21:52 VanessaE restarted it. 21:52 PilzAdam Exio, *sigh* 21:53 Exio hey, i just want to look what you use 21:53 VanessaE well, it reads now, "Welcome to VanessaE's server! Using Minetest 0.4.7 (git commit 29ef1f84[...]). Read the server's rules at http://bit.ly/YaWD50" 21:53 VanessaE that's as short as it needs to get. :) 21:58 VanessaE Matsetes: *poke* 21:58 Exio WTF 21:58 Exio "Buffering" 21:58 Exio ... when playing a local file 21:58 Matsetes VanessaE: What? 21:58 Uberi looks like uptime to me john_minetest 21:59 VanessaE sign onto my server so I can protect your house out here at the north end of the town 21:59 Matsetes Oh, dunno if I will continue it 21:59 VanessaE why not? :( 21:59 PilzAdam VanessaE, do you think that anyone will ever copy that link? 21:59 Exio john_minetest: nah 21:59 Matsetes I'm playing in a local server with a friend 22:00 VanessaE PilzAdam: they'd better try, or type it in, if they wanna play on my server 22:00 Matsetes VanessaE: And why that sad smile? 22:00 Uberi VanessaE: isn't it copyable from the console? 22:00 VanessaE Matsetes: ohh.. well still sign in anyway, so I don't have to take ownership of it. I had to rebuild roughly half of it yesterday due to griefing. 22:00 Uberi oh wait copy/paste in console 22:00 VanessaE Uberi: beats me. 22:01 Matsetes VanessaE: Oh, you rebuilt my home ^_^ 22:02 VanessaE mmhmm 22:02 Matsetes VanessaE: I don't remember the address of the server... 22:02 VanessaE vanessae.mine.bz:30000 22:02 VanessaE I don't like to let interesting structures just sit and rot at griefers' hands. 22:03 iqualfragile its in the serverlist 22:03 Matsetes VanessaE: Thanks a lot in that case 22:05 VanessaE Matsetes: done. 22:06 Matsetes VanessaE: Wow! I'm not already logged in and it's all completed? =) 22:06 VanessaE over where I'm standing is a spot where something was taken that I can't figure out. 22:06 VanessaE yeah, all I need is for you to be "online", even if you're still loading :) 22:06 Matsetes VanessaE: I'm still loading, I cannot see you 22:06 VanessaE Uberi: because of copy&paste issues is why I used a bit.ly link, short enough someone could type it into the browser. 22:07 VanessaE PilzAdam: crashed? 22:07 VanessaE Matsetes: oh ok, well you'll see me once you're in (I teleported you to your house) 22:08 VanessaE baaaah! :-) 22:09 Exio PilzAdam: what is the content of your libs/luajit? 22:10 PilzAdam VanessaE, btw: I have an admin pickaxe, hope you dont mind 22:10 PilzAdam VanessaE, my wlan sucks 22:10 VanessaE nope, I seem to recall having given one to you anyway :) 22:11 PilzAdam Exio, include/, luajit.dll and liblua.lib 22:11 PilzAdam *luajit.lib 22:12 khonkhortisan evil pickaxe is close enough 22:21 Exio ] 7,370 602B/s eta 34s 22:21 Exio that is speed 22:21 Exio 802 bytes per second 22:22 khonkhortisan zoom! 22:22 VanessaE oh my, that's breakneck speed! 22:22 khonkhortisan they used to think there was a human speed limit 22:23 PilzAdam when the first train reached 30 km/h the people placed steel plates arround their heads to protect themselves 22:24 Uberi they weren't too far off :P 22:25 Uberi judging from the way people drive around here, it's pretty obvious mental illness has got something to do with it! 22:25 PilzAdam I think they were right, whole humanity is ill today ;-9 22:25 PilzAdam -9+) 22:26 Uberi :O 22:26 Uberi brilliant, the cure for madness is to stop eating 22:29 Exio heck yeah 22:29 Exio fucking finally compiling MT for windows 22:30 PilzAdam inb4 new "Exio's win builds" topic in general 22:30 Exio nah 22:30 Uberi sounds romantic 22:30 Exio i just need windows build for testing if stuff works 22:30 Exio and uploading them would be a pain in the ass with my network 22:31 Exio you can see my download, guess the upload 22:31 VanessaE sure, gimme a sec. 22:31 VanessaE they might have gotten caught up in the protection for the roads. 22:34 VanessaE OH 22:34 VanessaE traxie's arch is in the way eh? 22:34 VanessaE I'll fix it. 22:35 Exio make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/home/exio4/sources/minetest_win32/libs/gettext/lib/libintl.dll.a', needed by `/home/exio4/sources/minetest_win32/minetest/bin/minetest.exe'. Stop 22:35 Exio wat 22:35 Exio no, i don't want gettext 22:35 Exio :/ 22:39 PilzAdam Exio, in buildwin32.sh set -DENABLE_GETTEXT to 0 22:39 Exio i did 22:40 iqualfragile ruskie: playing final fantasy, hmm 22:40 VanessaE damn it 22:40 Exio i rm -rfed the build directory 22:40 VanessaE two seconds more and I woulda had his subway stuff protected :-/ 22:40 Uberi VanessaE: doesn't protection work for offline players? 22:41 VanessaE nope. 22:41 VanessaE if they're offline, i can't protect. 22:41 Uberi you can probably modify it to do that I bet 22:41 VanessaE too lazy :P 22:47 TheLastProject Is there any way to change the rendering distance in Minetest? 22:47 PilzAdam yes, + and - keys 22:48 TheLastProject Hmm, I see "Minimum viewing distance" give another number but I don't see real changes :x 22:49 TheLastProject Oh, nevermind 22:49 TheLastProject It makes a difference when I hold + 22:49 TheLastProject Although I was looking for shorter-than-default. Seems that's not really possible :x 22:49 PilzAdam well, hold - 22:50 TheLastProject Yeah, but it only goes down to 5 and that was still much further than I was looking for >.< 22:54 Exio PilzAdam: do you see a difference when compiling to windows? (in speed) 22:54 Exio for a local binary it is way faster 22:54 PilzAdam its slower than with gcc 22:55 PilzAdam note that I use make -j8 in the script 22:55 Exio i changed it to make -j6 22:55 Exio like i always use 22:55 Exio god damnit 22:56 Exio getting the text from the clipboard... works... 22:56 Exio but only on windows 22:56 Exio not linux 22:56 PilzAdam thats already known 22:57 Exio i mean with the api 22:57 Exio http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/classirr_1_1_i_o_s_operator.html#a9026ff9f28b48615971e18fcee6fff4c 22:58 Exio haha 22:58 Exio i see what is the problem 23:15 VanessaE Exio: but can you fix it? :) 23:15 Exio i have no *freaking* idea what is going on 23:15 Exio when i copy from my windows vm i can "define" the clipboard correctly 23:15 VanessaE that would be a 'no' ;) 23:16 Exio but when i copy from my firefox, with the mouse or ctrl-c 23:16 Exio it changes the clipboard (for the function) to .. nothing 23:16 Exio => what the fuck 23:16 VanessaE maybe there's some flag you have to pass to select which clipboard? 23:16 VanessaE (since there are two in linux) 23:17 Exio i have clipboard-sharing enabled in my vm.. but why does it work and not ctrl-c or selecting text? 23:17 VanessaE dunno 23:18 Exio i installed clipit and enabled clipboard sharing 23:19 Exio https://github.com/malkia/ufo/blob/master/bin/Windows/x86/luajit.dll 23:19 Exio that is my actual clipboard 23:19 Exio clipboard: 0x258e8e0 23:19 Exio for that function ^ 23:19 Exio (%s %p) 23:39 PilzAdam hey Jordach 23:39 PilzAdam hey Jordach2 23:40 Jordach oh fuck 23:40 Jordach strange 23:40 Exio where is Jordach3 23:40 Exio :( 23:40 Jordach Exio, nope.avi 23:40 Jordach PilzAdam, UD 1, Google 0 23:41 VanessaE UD? 23:41 Jordach UrbanDictionary 23:41 Jordach fucking useful with these damn Reddit terms 23:42 VanessaE oh 23:42 Jordach mfw = my face when 23:42 Exio fml til 23:42 Jordach til = today i learned 23:43 Jordach i still prefer the Queen's English 23:43 VanessaE THAT is what that means!? 23:43 Jordach VanessaE, saw the black dress, nice! 23:43 VanessaE thanks 23:43 * Jordach checks again 23:43 PilzAdam i still prefer the Queen's English <- yep 23:43 Jordach VanessaE, you could get away as Batgirl 23:43 VanessaE oh please 23:44 Jordach provided you add a batman symbol 23:44 VanessaE no way 23:44 Jordach 23:44 Jordach 23:44 Matsetes VanessaE: How to make violet dye? 23:45 Jordach Matsetes, blue + red 23:45 Jordach iirc 23:45 Matsetes It gaves magenta 23:45 Jordach then add more blue to that 23:45 Jordach magenta + blue = violet 23:45 Jordach PilzAdam, i got worked over by three dungeon masters 23:46 Jordach all of them in shadows when i dropped the torch, mfw: OH SHIT 23:46 Matsetes Thanks 23:46 Matsetes Can coloured wool return blank? 23:47 PilzAdam with white dye 23:47 Jordach wtf 23:47 Matsetes It does not work 23:47 Jordach im away for a single day: 70 emails 23:48 Matsetes I tried a magenta wool with white dye 23:51 Jordach magenta / red + white = pink 23:51 Jordach pink + white = white 23:51 Jordach (the magenta pink combo shoud happen 23:51 Jordach ) 23:53 Jordach VanessaE, refer to this if calinou says a concatenated string; http://www.urbandictionary.com/ 23:54 Matsetes pink + white does not kork 23:54 Matsetes *work 23:54 Matsetes =( 23:54 Jordach hm 23:54 Jordach sounds like a bug 23:54 Jordach Matsetes, suggestion, only use dyes when needed 23:54 Jordach so that there is less waste 23:55 Jordach im no particular fan of spare items 23:55 Matsetes Yes, I was just trying 23:55 Jordach ikr 23:56 Jordach nearly forgot the word despair 23:58 Jordach which is amazing is im a grammar nazi 23:58 Jordach python 2.7.4 > pilzadam.sleep() = true 23:58 PilzAdam *I'm