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Time Nick Message
00:00 Tesseract Ehm...
00:03 Menche copied the dlls it was complaining about into bin/
00:03 Menche now it starts but promptly crashes
00:03 Menche on both wine and windows
00:03 PilzAdam well, in my build you can use the menu :-p
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00:06 Snake12534 Hiya guys, how are your guys' day so far?
00:07 * Menche is very perturbed at windows and cross-compiling right now
00:07 Snake12534 What's your OS?
00:08 Menche Arch Linux
00:08 Snake12534 That is horrible :/
00:08 Snake12534 I used to have Windows 8, it is amzing.
00:08 Snake12534 Now I have 7, it isn't as great, but much better than  Windows Visa.
00:08 Snake12534 Vista*
00:09 * Menche thinks that windows 8 is horrible and 7 is marginally better
00:09 Menche and Arch linux rules
00:09 Tesseract ^ Agreed.
00:10 Menche at least windows 7 has a normal desktop interface and not a tablet one
00:10 Snake12534 Well, sure.
00:10 Snake12534 But I like the new stuff ^^
00:10 Snake12534 That's just me.
00:11 Snake12534 so how's minecraft?
00:11 MinetestBot GIT: khonkhortisan commited to minetest/minetest: Fix crash in dump() when index is a table 3e4f1462bc 2013-06-14T17:10:16-07:00 http://git.io/5lEwrw
00:12 Menche haven't played it for a while
00:12 Menche i think most people here haven't
00:12 Snake12534 Minetest and Minecraft same thing?
00:12 Menche well, maybe not most
00:12 Menche no
00:12 khonkhortisan we have a forum thread about that
00:12 Snake12534 I see.
00:12 Menche minetest is a free game similar to minecraft written in c++ rather than java
00:12 Snake12534 In that case, Minecraft is crap.
00:12 khonkhortisan http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6150
00:12 Snake12534 Oh.
00:13 Snake12534 So I suspect Minetest is better? :)
00:13 Snake12534 Who developed this game?
00:13 PilzAdam Snake12534, you are repeating yourself
00:13 Menche celeron55 started it, now there's a bunch of other devs
00:13 Snake12534 ah
00:13 khonkhortisan minetest has a few more things to work out
00:13 Menche it doesn't have quite as many features as minecraft, but tends to perform better and has an easy modding api
00:13 Snake12534 PilzAdam : the games I play are slower in response
00:14 Snake12534 hmm k
00:14 Snake12534 Minecraft on my PC tends to crash often.
00:14 khonkhortisan mods can crash your game too, so it's even :)
00:15 Menche jordach apparently beheads people who mix up minecraft and minetest
00:15 Snake12534 oh, that's sad
00:16 Snake12534 sorry, cause the name is so alike ^
00:16 khonkhortisan you can call it mesetest if you wish
00:16 Menche huh?
00:16 PilzAdam mesetint work too
00:16 PilzAdam +s
00:16 khonkhortisan minitest
00:16 Menche mesetint was the original minetest 0.4.x lua game mode
00:16 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, no, that Copyright by PilzAdam ;-)
00:16 khonkhortisan oh
00:17 khonkhortisan metaste
00:17 Snake12534 Is khonkhortisan like an admin on minetest?
00:17 khonkhortisan lol no
00:17 Tesseract Snake12534: No, but many of us, including him, develop it.
00:17 khonkhortisan at most, minor contributor
00:17 Menche the mesetint game was never begun, apparently (celeron55's repo is empty)
00:18 Snake12534 Ah
00:18 Snake12534 I only contribute to Ninja Kiwi.
00:18 Menche it's minetest_game now
00:18 Snake12534 For $$ xd
00:18 khonkhortisan You can make a mod that converts real money into minetest money
00:19 PilzAdam khonkhortisan, you are on page 3: https://www.ohloh.net/p/minetest-c55/contributors?page=1&query=&sort=commits
00:19 khonkhortisan very minor
00:19 PilzAdam well, there are 6 pages :-)
00:19 khonkhortisan above average, yay me!
00:20 Tesseract Page 1. :-) But I need to make a lot more to stay up there.
00:20 Exio page 2 :D
00:20 Exio :P
00:20 PilzAdam Note to self: Dont accept ShadowNinja's pull requests for a while :-p
00:21 Snake12534 What is a pull request?
00:21 khonkhortisan So that's who you are
00:21 khonkhortisan A pull request is equivalent to a patch
00:21 PilzAdam Snake12534, we have a central repository for our code, where people send patches
00:21 khonkhortisan a change to the code that you want someone else to add for you
00:21 Snake12534 I see.
00:21 Menche someone makes their own version of minetest and asks for their changes to be added to the official version
00:21 PilzAdam Snake12534, one of the core developers has to check the patch and merge it if its good
00:22 Snake12534 Understandable
00:22 PilzAdam a list of core developers can be found here: http://minetest.net/contributors
00:24 PilzAdam Snake12534, and here are the pull requests if you want to look at them: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pulls
00:24 Snake12534 Okay.
00:27 PilzAdam bye
00:34 Tesseract To close: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/749
00:35 Tesseract Also this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/726
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00:37 Tesseract Erm, 65 pull requests?
00:40 Tesseract khonkhortisan: I think we might have talked about this but this is an Irrlight issue: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/678
00:41 khonkhortisan yes it is
00:43 Tesseract Then it should be removed from the Minetest bug tracker, right?
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00:56 EnvoyXiphos Im so happy im Back in Minetest
00:57 sokomine then welcome back :-)
00:57 * Tesseract found a bug to fix...
00:57 EnvoyXiphos omg sokomine
00:57 Tesseract My dev install is too old...
00:57 EnvoyXiphos remember me?
00:57 sokomine oh, i'm sure there will always be some bugs
00:58 sokomine vaguely :-)
00:58 EnvoyXiphos Hmm I believe from your 4.1 or 4.3 server
00:58 EnvoyXiphos And I do remember you're a girl
00:59 sokomine yes, that's right. but i never run a server myshelf. at least not more than as a proof-of-concept/a bit playing around
00:59 Exio 4.1? minetest is still 0.!
00:59 sokomine i'm sure he meant 0.4.1
00:59 EnvoyXiphos yeah
01:00 EnvoyXiphos soko I think oldcoder was hosting
01:00 sokomine calinous server? that is now hosted by oldcoder?
01:00 EnvoyXiphos I believe
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01:01 sokomine might be. there was a mine at -1000 where we digged and looked at those intresting mese- and diamondnodes that where at -1000 and belonged to calinou :-)
01:01 EnvoyXiphos anyone know what OldCoder is doing?
01:02 sokomine you can still see him around most of the time
01:02 sokomine he regulary joins the channel
01:02 sokomine his server still runs as well
01:02 EnvoyXiphos he is still hosting my 4.3 server
01:03 sokomine on the ex-calinou-server, i did build a small house/farm in the meantime. that server does have the animals mod
01:03 sokomine ah :-) yes. perhaps that's where i remember your name from
01:03 EnvoyXiphos :) I do remember being in a server with you
01:04 Exio am i the only here who doesn't play MT? :(
01:04 EnvoyXiphos maybe
01:04 EnvoyXiphos I havent played for like 6 months\
01:05 EnvoyXiphos is M13 still around?
01:15 OldCoder Hi
01:15 OldCoder EnvoyXiphos, He is around under other names
01:16 EnvoyXiphos like what?
01:16 OldCoder Folks good evening I will be around this weekend... EnvoyXiphos I will talk to you then
01:16 OldCoder c u o/
01:24 Tesseract Bug fixed, I just need a good variable name... (selected_serverlist and serverlist_selected is bound to lead to confusion.)
01:26 kahrl Tesseract: this is probably not going to be merged as the whole main menu will be replaced
01:27 Tesseract Oh, right.
01:27 Tesseract Well replace it soon. :-)
01:27 kahrl Stupid RL keeping me from debugging it ;)
01:32 Tesseract !later tell sapier* Is this fixed in the lua main menu? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/672
01:32 Tesseract Seems he isn't registered.
02:07 Menche|away !up 25.15.103.224
02:07 MinetestBot 25.15.103.224:30000 seems to be down
02:20 Exio is anyone here a heavy-mt player? :P
02:20 Exio for comments about #751 (https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751)
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02:27 Octupus Hi
02:27 Tesseract I think it should be merged.
02:27 Tesseract Hello!
02:33 Exio hi Octupus
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02:51 VanessaE hi all.
02:54 Exio hi VanessaE!
02:55 VanessaE hey
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02:59 * Kacey solved OldCoder's latest math puzzle
03:04 EnvoyXiphos lol
03:07 Exio night :P
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03:26 khonkhortisan where's that puzzle?
03:46 VanessaE quiet night huh
03:55 khonkhortisan For the mesecon rules, normally it's {{xyz},{xyz},{xyz}}. I'm changing it to also use { {{xyz},{xyz}}, {{xyz},{xyz}} }. That would make it so a node isn't just mesecon.state.on/off anymore, but a binary representation of whether each rule is on or not.
03:56 khonkhortisan Should I make it use state = "thisnode00", states = {"thisnode00","thisnode10","thisnode01","thisnode11"} or only tell it the states it can change to from there?
03:58 khonkhortisan state.on and state.off might be extended to state.01 and state.10 (but lua doesn't like numbers there)
04:01 VanessaE I'm not at all sure.
04:03 khonkhortisan I'll start calling them metarules
04:32 VanessaE khonkhortisan: done yet? ;)
04:43 khonkhortisan no - I've gotten it to not crash when I connect it (partially processing the rules), but haven't gotten rid of the crash when I turn it on (state.on, and partially on)
04:43 VanessaE I was kidding :)
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04:46 khonkhortisan But your question parses
04:46 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94815#p94815   <-- wait, what?
04:47 VanessaE khonkhortisan, isn't that exactly the effect you're trying to create with the null cell?
04:47 VanessaE oh wait
04:47 VanessaE nevermind, I misread that
04:47 khonkhortisan it only conducts from axis-opposite faces :)
04:48 VanessaE yeah, I read that as "it conducts TO axis-opposite" :)
04:48 khonkhortisan When mesecons is able to conduct using the full facedir, all the nodes will be looked at for duplicates and missing ones
04:48 VanessaE so there are plans to rewrite it for 6dfacedir?
04:48 khonkhortisan I have plans
04:49 khonkhortisan even if it requires a screwdriver
04:49 VanessaE good.  Use the code in Homedecor lighting.lua to help with the placement prediction :)
04:49 VanessaE that'll reduce the need for the screwdriver.
04:49 khonkhortisan simple as facedir->xyz rotation, and rotating the rule vector by that.
04:49 VanessaE rotation of vectors...doesn't rubenwardy have some code for that?
04:49 khonkhortisan but we'd have to reinvent the wheel to rotate vectors
04:50 khonkhortisan commonlib didn't get that far
04:50 VanessaE damn
04:50 khonkhortisan https://github.com/rubenwardy/commonlib/blob/master/README.md
04:51 khonkhortisan oh, there's rotate_y
04:52 khonkhortisan and commonlib needs a table copy, I have two mods that have different versions of it
04:52 VanessaE ruben'
04:52 VanessaE ruben's node ownership check is out of date anyway
04:52 khonkhortisan I see you're using qwerty
04:52 VanessaE zeg9 made some improvements to the one in homedecor
04:53 VanessaE heh yeah
04:53 VanessaE when I used my C128 to chat, you could always tell then, too - 7 instead of ' (shift-7) half the time :)
04:54 khonkhortisan as soon as you pour something into the keys, you have to replace the whole computer?
04:55 VanessaE thankfully not
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05:35 khonkhortisan Do we have per-nodebox textures? I haven't been keeping up
05:39 khonkhortisan joined, startled a rat. It ran away from me. I followed it and fell to my death.
05:42 VanessaE nope.
05:42 VanessaE closest we have is meshes, and those don't apply to nodes.
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05:56 sfan5 good morning
05:57 VanessaE mornin'
05:57 VanessaE sfan5: do you have any plans to rewrite your old particles mod to use the recently-added particle spawner, at least for torches?
06:09 sfan5 yes
06:14 VanessaE cool
06:53 khonkhortisan eight minutes to morning for me
06:53 khonkhortisan the particle spawner doesn't support rain
06:58 VanessaE it does, but the rain doesn't "collide" I guess
06:59 khonkhortisan it does if you never look up or down
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07:00 VanessaE I mean with buildings etc, so it rains inside if there's enough light :-)
07:00 khonkhortisan they alls
07:00 khonkhortisan whoops
07:01 khonkhortisan it also rains inside if you're standing outside looking in
07:01 VanessaE although,
07:01 VanessaE didn't I see a commit or pull request or something that *does* add particle collisions?
07:02 khonkhortisan probably. But then you'd have rain standing on end.
07:02 VanessaE I wonder if a shader is better for such things
07:04 khonkhortisan My knowledge ends at that question.
07:05 khonkhortisan Congratulations! You've defeated KhonBot!
07:05 VanessaE heh
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09:38 MarkTwain Hello
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09:38 MarkTwain How do i compile mosstest>
09:40 Jordach you dont
09:40 Jordach its JAVA
09:41 Jordach and its not even ready
09:41 FreeFull Java can be compiled
09:41 Jordach so why are you asking these questions
09:41 MarkTwain How do i play it?
09:41 Jordach YOU CANT,
09:42 MarkTwain Then what do i do with it!
09:42 Jordach nothing
09:42 Jordach wait till its actually any good first
09:42 sfan5 !g mosstest
09:42 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.hamworthy.com/PageFiles/1756/Moss%20Test%20Hall.pdf
09:43 MarkTwain irrelevant
09:43 Jordach rarkenin is cloning MT with JAVA
09:44 FreeFull Someone already tried that before
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09:50 Jordach whats the flat mapgen option for minetest
09:51 Jordach found it
09:52 TheLastProject Why would you clone Minetest in Java? Isn't Minetest being in C++ a good thing?
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09:56 * sfan5 found out how to get the version from a minetest executable:  strings minetest.exe | grep -E "VER=([^ ]+)" -o | sed -s 's/VER=//' | head -n1
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09:59 * Jordach builds a 7 segment display with api
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10:10 rubenwardy Hi all!
10:11 Jordach heres the bus for my 7 segment display: http://i.imgur.com/HGQIuMr.png
10:17 rubenwardy nice!
10:17 Jordach rubenwardy, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-06-14#i_3141906
10:17 rubenwardy where is the bus stop?
10:18 Jordach rubenwardy, i was talking about data bus
10:18 rubenwardy wow
10:18 rubenwardy yeah, I know
10:18 rubenwardy winding you up :P 8)
10:18 Jordach thats in the smallest possible size without microcontrollers
10:19 rubenwardy ah
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10:43 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94845#p94845 there
10:44 Jordach you can now actually get my skins
10:45 Exio aw, i wonder for what xyz.is is used
10:46 thexyz uh
10:46 thexyz for different things
10:46 Exio like? :P
10:48 thexyz well, there are some subdomains
10:51 thexyz oh, you probably know about one which watches you
10:51 Jordach yeah, nsa.xyz.is
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10:57 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:58 Jordach hello
11:00 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94845#p94845
11:00 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&amp;user_id=6092
11:00 Jordach dafuq
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11:07 Jordach hmm
11:08 Jordach i just made a pixely minetest logo
11:09 rubenwardy The food mod is getting an API!
11:09 Jordach does the minetest model actually SUPPORT alpha transparencies
11:10 rubenwardy Including: on domand ingredient declaration
11:10 Jordach demand*
11:10 rubenwardy simplified food declaration
11:10 rubenwardy yeah
11:10 Jordach also: why did the food mod become virgin media :P
11:10 rubenwardy huh?
11:10 rubenwardy oh, on demand
11:10 Jordach on demand?
11:11 rubenwardy It means if none of the foods use an ingredient, that ingredient is not defined
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11:11 rubenwardy Pacman: http://ubuntuone.com/7LSZWFoHKS51rPSGh2agM0
11:11 Jordach if i know the minetest model supports alpha transparencies: http://i.imgur.com/Kg0NRgB.png
11:12 PilzAdam how about testing it?
11:12 Jordach how about fuck yeah
11:13 Jordach PilzAdam, 94.249.210.106
11:13 Jordach join
11:13 Jordach !up 94.249.210.106
11:13 MinetestBot 94.249.210.106:30000 seems to be down
11:13 Jordach damn
11:13 Jordach server's dead
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11:17 Jordach !up 5.231.50.51
11:17 MinetestBot 5.231.50.51:30000 is up (97ms)
11:17 Jordach better
11:17 Jordach !up minetest.ru
11:17 MinetestBot minetest.ru:30000 is up (199ms)
11:17 Jordach HAHA
11:17 Jordach better ping
11:18 TheLastProject Jordach: How exactly is 199ms a "better ping" than 97ms?
11:18 Jordach PilzAdam, nope. the engine does not support alpha skins
11:18 Jordach TheLastProject, i meant to mine
11:18 TheLastProject Hmm, k~
11:22 Jordach removed skin
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11:53 PilzAdam bbl
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11:57 john_minetest Hmmm... Skin mod could be made so there are several trousers, shoes, helmets etc. So everybody can wear something else.
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11:59 rubenwardy I might try that
11:59 rubenwardy can lua do image editing?
12:00 rubenwardy or would you use seperate entities?
12:06 Jordach SHIT
12:06 Jordach fuck
12:06 Jordach motherfuckin dungeon master ninja'd me
12:07 Jordach *places torch* FUCK
12:09 Jordach <DM> sup bro
12:09 Jordach anyways, im out for a bit
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12:12 lamefun is there an ObjectRef:dead method?
12:13 lamefun sometimes obj:getpos() returns nil and I suspect that's because it's dead
12:14 rubenwardy Announcement: Chatplus! adds /ignore and /unignore to the game
12:14 rubenwardy coming soon
12:15 rubenwardy Also adds an inbox, so players can send messages to you when you are off line
12:18 john_minetest rubenwardy: Inbox is perfect for servers where the admins haven't got time all the time. Some kind of a ticketing system maybe.
12:20 thexyz rubenwardy: coming when?
12:20 rubenwardy later today
12:21 thexyz okay
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12:27 TheLastProject Dungeon Master? Wut?
12:32 rubenwardy I might add highting to chatplus
12:38 rubenwardy *highlighting
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13:40 rubenwardy thexyz: https://github.com/rubenwardy/chatplus
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13:43 rubenwardy Can a mod unsticky and possibily delete this? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3656
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13:48 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6273
13:48 rubenwardy !title
13:48 MinetestBot rubenwardy: [Mod] Chat plus [0.1 -!- ignore] [chatplus] (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums
13:51 rubenwardy Can a moderator move the above topic to releases?
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13:52 rubenwardy VanessaE, thexyz, sfan5
13:52 sfan5 rubenwardy: Dependencies missing
13:53 rubenwardy added
13:54 rubenwardy sfan5 :P
13:54 sfan5 moved
13:55 rubenwardy Thank you
13:57 rubenwardy Can you unsticky this, sfan5? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3656
13:57 rubenwardy It is obsolete
13:58 sfan5 done
13:58 rubenwardy Thanks
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14:02 sfan5 TIL github changed its design
14:03 thexyz rubenwardy: you forgot to close the file in chatplus.load
14:03 rubenwardy ah
14:04 rubenwardy fixed
14:04 rubenwardy woops
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14:05 rubenwardy it is fixed now
14:05 sfan5 is there a statistic for the number of forum members on forum.minetest.net
14:05 sfan5 ?
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14:06 rubenwardy see main page
14:06 rubenwardy Total number of registered users: 6,067
14:06 rubenwardy lol http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94890#p94890
14:08 rubenwardy Total number of topics: 5,748
14:08 rubenwardy Total number of posts: 87,323
14:08 PilzAdam rubenwardy, you made a mistake, but whatever
14:09 rubenwardy huh?
14:13 * rubenwardy now has 6 mods
14:13 rubenwardy sfan5, it was 3 months since you last updated this:n http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4596
14:14 sfan5 ...
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14:15 sfan5 enabling mesecons in the configure world menu is a fucking pain in the ass
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14:15 Exio enabling mods in that menu is a pita, always
14:16 PilzAdam sfan5, you can use "Enable all" on modpacks
14:17 sfan5 PilzAdam: it doesn't show that button when the modpack is named the same as an existing mod
14:19 RealBadAngel sfan5, can i have your windows build script?
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14:22 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, we had  there code to force blocks to stay loaded, whats about it?
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14:24 rubenwardy Skin idea, Jordach: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/File:C55.jpg
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14:25 rubenwardy oh, not here
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14:29 RealBadAngel https://github.com/RealBadAngel/technic_game
14:29 RealBadAngel this is going to be main repo for technic_game
14:30 PilzAdam the directory structure is wrong
14:30 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, what do you mean?
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14:30 PilzAdam there needs to be a game.conf and mods go into the mods/ folder
14:31 RealBadAngel oh shit
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14:32 TheLastProject No description? :(
14:34 RealBadAngel i just copied wrong level
14:34 RealBadAngel dumb me
14:34 PilzAdam dumb(RealBadAngel)
14:35 Exio poor RealBadAngel
14:35 RealBadAngel :P
14:35 Exio RealBadAngel: are you actually working with the shaders/lighting??
14:35 RealBadAngel yes
14:36 RealBadAngel had a little pause, because i moved to a new flat and was cut off from the world
14:36 RealBadAngel i mean internet
14:41 RealBadAngel damn, LTE is a bit better when uploading
14:42 RealBadAngel with cable i had 1mbps upload, now i have 50mbps
14:43 Calinou RealBadAngel has LTE? O_o
14:43 Calinou enjoy your $150 bill
14:43 RealBadAngel not really
14:43 RealBadAngel i got fixed plan, 59.90 PLN
14:44 RealBadAngel which makes circa 25 USD
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14:46 RealBadAngel im not sure if i gonna keep this LTE connection, i have one week for testing
14:46 RealBadAngel but so far i do like it
14:47 RealBadAngel its really fast
14:48 PilzAdam this guy should work as our commit log: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94913#p94913
14:49 RealBadAngel hehe, hire him
14:51 RealBadAngel oke doke, looks like directory structure is now ok for technic_game
14:52 PilzAdam copy and paste from minetest_game?
14:52 PilzAdam (readme, logo, header...)
14:52 RealBadAngel at start yes
14:53 RealBadAngel i had more things done when i was offline but now i decided to update
14:54 RealBadAngel 2 weeks being offline changed a lot
14:55 RealBadAngel so, i made by now a starting point
14:56 RealBadAngel btw, you say that icon is the same?
14:57 PilzAdam yes... ?
14:57 RealBadAngel i do have bumpmapping and water reflections here
14:57 RealBadAngel beat me
14:57 RealBadAngel please
14:57 RealBadAngel ;)
14:59 RealBadAngel i have talked to Taoki last night about shaders  and lights
15:00 RealBadAngel we have agreed that pushing any shaders code, before lights are done doesnt make any sence
15:00 Taoki Yeah. very eager to see those up and working :)
15:00 Exio the only change
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15:00 Taoki Yes. HW lighting shader needs to be done first IMO
15:00 Exio i would "do" by now
15:00 Exio is making the names not test_
15:00 RealBadAngel speakin of the "devil" :)
15:01 Exio what?
15:01 Taoki For those who haven't seen the thread BTW. I think I have a code plan for the lighting shader that works. Just needs someone to write the code since I might not have the knowledge to
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15:01 RealBadAngel say "Taoki" and she will pop up ;)
15:01 Taoki Idea is that every light source should send the param1 of the nodes it affects (or bettersaid, the amount of param1 influence) to the shader
15:02 Taoki And use those for range if possible.
15:02 Exio PilzAdam / RealBadAngel, bothering you, what do you think about #754?
15:02 RealBadAngel direct link?
15:03 Exio https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/754
15:03 * RealBadAngel is lazy ;)
15:03 Taoki So each light is sent from MT to the shader under this form: (v3f light_origin, int light_intensity, list[x] nodes_and_param1)
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15:03 RealBadAngel not my area of expetize definitely
15:04 Exio http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest-dev/2013-06-15#i_3142384
15:04 PilzAdam Exio, kahrl has agreed on this?
15:04 Exio just for that :P
15:04 Exio yep
15:04 PilzAdam seems good
15:04 RealBadAngel Taoki, we need a limit for light sources aroud
15:05 PilzAdam (havent tested the exact same patch as in the pull request, though)
15:05 Taoki Can be easy. We get which light is closest to the player and only render X closest
15:05 RealBadAngel wait
15:05 RealBadAngel there can be many sources around
15:06 RealBadAngel torches, laps, turned on machines and the sun
15:06 RealBadAngel for example
15:06 RealBadAngel *lamps
15:06 Exio PilzAdam: it is the same workaround as used actually for freetype in the intlGUIEditBox.cpp:279~
15:07 Taoki RealBadAngel: Sure. And their lights might also be overlapping
15:08 Taoki That's why I said to do this properly, we can send each light source with a list of nodes and the light's param1 influence on them. To make sure each light is applied and limited properly
15:08 PilzAdam Exio, seems good then
15:08 RealBadAngel yes, but we need somehow to limit number of possible light sources
15:08 Taoki So if placing a torch on a block causes that block to get param1 increased by 13, we send the node ID or position + that amount of param1 addition to the shader (with that light). Same for all blocks affacted
15:08 RealBadAngel thus, it raises problem which source is more important
15:08 Exio near
15:09 Taoki That can be done with a simple origin check. A later concern though
15:09 Exio for what would you need the light source, anyway?
15:09 Exio light source "position"
15:09 Taoki Exio: For the hardware light to shine properly from that location
15:09 RealBadAngel Exio, answer is "all of it"
15:10 Exio hm
15:10 RealBadAngel we are makin eye candies
15:10 Exio talking about eye candy, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751
15:10 Exio !title
15:10 Exio :P
15:10 MinetestBot Exio: Use the console instead of a dedicated window when pressing keymap_chat/cmd by EXio4 · Pull Request[...]
15:13 RealBadAngel Exio, eye candie is this: http://i.imgur.com/i692bUl.jpg or http://i.imgur.com/fwWzMMk.jpg
15:14 Exio RealBadAngel: just bugging around
15:14 MinetestBot GIT: EXio4 commited to minetest/minetest: Add basic unicode support to the console (linux workaround) 93dfc3ec70 2013-06-15T08:09:11-07:00 http://git.io/4_UGAQ
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15:15 RealBadAngel Exio, point is i do have lotsa shader code ready, but it needs light sources
15:16 Exio i know that, but i just posted my link to bug someone to try it
15:16 RealBadAngel without it, its just fakin we do have light
15:17 RealBadAngel Exio, i havent even opened this file in geany
15:17 RealBadAngel never
15:18 Exio aw
15:18 RealBadAngel ask me for somethin related to mapblock_mesh.cpp or similar :)
15:19 RealBadAngel and i can tell you at which line # is specific piece of code
15:20 sfan5 RealBadAngel: ...
15:20 RealBadAngel this project has grown so much that single person is not able to know everything
15:21 RealBadAngel and i no wonder anymore that c55 gave away rights
15:22 RealBadAngel sfan5, yes?
15:22 sfan5 you can have it
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15:22 RealBadAngel plz plz plz
15:22 RealBadAngel i kinda need it
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15:23 RealBadAngel my friend's son is playing mt on windows
15:23 RealBadAngel and screaming for updates
15:26 RealBadAngel btw, offtopic: i got this LTE modem yesterday
15:26 sfan5 RealBadAngel: uploading
15:27 RealBadAngel it was reallly funny to see girls at the booth face, when i said "sorry, i dont have Windows"
15:28 sfan5 RealBadAngel: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/minetest-buildbot.zip
15:28 Taoki BBL
15:28 RealBadAngel sfan5, thx :)
15:29 RealBadAngel folks think Windows are the only way
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15:45 sfan5 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4596
15:45 sfan5 !title
15:45 MinetestBot sfan5: Topics wrongly formatted, missing license, etc.. [Updated: 2013-06-15] (Page 1) — Mod Releases —[...]
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15:56 thexyz are adf.ly links allowed?
15:57 sfan5 theres no rule against it
15:57 thexyz hm.. then we probably need to make one before it's too late
15:57 PilzAdam I still dont like it and usually start a shitstorm
15:57 thexyz oh!
15:57 thexyz PilzAdam->target("http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3003");
15:57 sfan5 !title
15:57 MinetestBot sfan5: [Game] Dwarves [dwarves] [github] (Page 1) — Minetest Games — Minetest Forums
15:58 VanessaE good morning all (or afternoon now I guess)
15:58 sfan5 17:58
15:58 * sfan5 wants IPv6
15:59 VanessaE for me anyway :)
15:59 sfan5 MinetestBot!
15:59 MinetestBot sfan5!
15:59 thexyz all image hosts but imgur should be disallowed as well
16:00 PilzAdam thexyz, move it to modding general, -ND license is not supported
16:00 sfan5 thexyz: nah, imageshack and mediafire are ok as long as the people use direct links (yes, mediafire supports direct image links)
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16:00 thexyz imageshack sucks because no one uses direct links
16:01 thexyz "oh, hi, let me show you this image thumbnailed to 200x100"
16:01 sfan5 imageshack is fail, because you need to log in to use the link, but you can simply open the textbox in element inspector and copy the contents
16:02 sfan5 s/you need to/they say you need to/
16:02 thexyz "wanna see full size? let me open 10 popups"
16:02 sfan5 what about "No thumbnail images, only full size images"
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16:03 thexyz sfan5: no
16:04 sfan5 whatever, I'm fine with disallowing imageshack
16:04 hmmmm probably a good idea, imageshack at one point even had malware on it
16:04 sfan5 really?
16:04 sfan5 !g news imageshack malwae
16:04 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.wowhead.com/news=181747/imageshack-links-installing-malware-blocked-on-wowhead
16:05 hmmmm a couple years back yeah
16:05 thexyz sfan5: by the way, this is not your browser
16:05 thexyz http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6274
16:05 thexyz !title
16:05 MinetestBot thexyz: The Coolness of Being Random (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums
16:05 thexyz ❤❤❤
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16:06 PilzAdam mitori, why do you use adfly links?
16:07 mitori because they're short?
16:07 mitori why do you ask?
16:07 PilzAdam I dont like people trying to get money in an open source project
16:08 thexyz ugh
16:08 sfan5 what about...
16:08 hmmmm pilzadam, why not?  RMS used to make money off of emacs
16:08 sfan5 !sh
16:08 MinetestBot sfan5: Give me an url shorten service and an address
16:08 MinetestBot sfan5: Supported Services: is.gd, v.gd
16:08 sfan5 ^ these
16:09 thexyz what's the point of using shorteners anyway?
16:09 thexyz this is not twitter, you're not limited to 140 chats
16:09 thexyz *chars
16:10 thexyz PilzAdam: you forgot to mention one thing
16:10 thexyz mitori: Any game or content included therein that disallows derivatives cannot be published on this forum. These include CC NoDerivs and pretty much any closed source licenses.
16:10 mitori what.
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16:13 Calinou PilzAdam: getting money with open source is fine, but adfly is not
16:13 Calinou i'd rather have people making money with open source than closed source
16:13 Calinou this is always better
16:14 PilzAdam true
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16:16 sfan5 Currently online: 38 guests, 14 registered users
16:16 sfan5 \o/
16:17 PilzAdam 42 16 now
16:17 sfan5 *45
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16:17 mitori sfan5 excuse me, but i don't see what you're happy about
16:18 sfan5 mitori: about all the people that are online
16:18 mitori ....okay.
16:19 john_minetest "]||[" is the coolest IRC name ever.
16:19 sokomine here in irc or on a mt server? a server with that many users would be impressive
16:19 PilzAdam sokomine, forum
16:19 sokomine ah, ok
16:20 sokomine now get them all to join one server :-)
16:20 PilzAdam 47
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16:21 sfan5 48
16:21 khonkhortisan ^ me
16:22 khonkhortisan or not, I'm logged in. Huh.
16:24 sokomine might have been me. unless i did coult before
16:25 PilzAdam awwww 40
16:25 khonkhortisan 37 14
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16:31 ShadowNinja New flood detection techneque: CAPS floods.
16:32 khonkhortisan "SORRY I LEFT MY CAPS LOCK ON"
16:33 * sfan5 customized his user agent string
16:33 ShadowNinja It is in test mode ATM and it is too lenient. One non-caps character is all it takes currently.
16:34 khonkhortisan so then I can ACCENT my text
16:34 khonkhortisan How many caps does it take?
16:37 ShadowNinja All currently, what do you think the ratio should be?
16:37 VanessaE ShadowNinja: none at all, leave that out.
16:37 khonkhortisan I agree, all caps seems fine enough
16:37 ShadowNinja Well I can leave it disabled, but I would like to finish it.
16:38 khonkhortisan but I think the length of the sentence should matter?
16:38 khonkhortisan I
16:38 khonkhortisan ^ shouldn't get caught
16:39 ShadowNinja Catching that is fine, it takes three in a row.
16:39 VanessaE maybe 50 capital letters or 75% of the sentence, whichever has a higher count.
16:39 ShadowNinja (To trigger a punishment)
16:39 khonkhortisan that would be 100% of a single-character sentence
16:40 * khonkhortisan ponders how to represent binary in lua
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16:49 ShadowNinja Works properly now. Would requiring five messages with too many caps be OK VanessaE?
16:49 ShadowNinja (Or just about any reasonable number, it has a history of 1000 messages)
16:50 Calinou meh, anticaps sucks
16:50 Calinou ShadowNinja: however, make the antispam less strict
16:50 Calinou > 5 lines is spam
16:50 Calinou 3 lines isn't
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16:51 ShadowNinja Calinou: Done (for caps).
16:51 Calinou talking about antispam, not anticaps
16:53 VanessaE Calinou: not spam, flooding
16:54 VanessaE spam != too many messages.  spam == unsolicited commercial advertizements
16:54 ShadowNinja Also done for paste floods, doing it for a repetition flood doesn't seem to make much sense and the other detectors work differently.
16:54 khonkhortisan spamflood = both
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17:43 MinetestBot GIT: ffrogger _zero_ at yahoo dot com commited to minetest/minetest: Removed a redundant step which degraded performance 0413f8ad9d 2013-06-15T10:41:30-07:00 http://git.io/FozPBg
17:44 Calinou cool
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18:01 VanessaE New build: 29ef1f84[...]
18:02 VanessaE (has pilzadam's flowing liquid CPU-limiter patch)
18:03 Calinou TIL ironzorg lives in france
18:03 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=525
18:03 Calinou someone bumped that topic
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18:36 iqualfragile linux, you no compile faster?
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18:39 Calinou y u no use stock kernels
18:40 TheLastProject y u use stock kernels
18:40 FreeFull iqualfragile: Are you doing a multithreaded compile?
18:40 iqualfragile jup
18:41 iqualfragile stock kernels, y u no boot faster?
18:41 Calinou 21 seconds from pressng button to log in
18:41 Calinou SURE
18:41 iqualfragile i am down to 1.2 secs for user
18:41 TheLastProject TWENTY ONE?
18:41 Calinou and this is with a msi mobo, by no means the fastest in terms of POST
18:41 iqualfragile and kernel takes 5.1 sec
18:42 iqualfragile so that needs to be exterminated
18:42 FreeFull I remember when booting used to take minutes
18:42 FreeFull Minutes!
18:42 TheLastProject I'm done after ~11 seconds including my overly high amount of daemons
18:42 Calinou sounds like chinese minetest
18:42 iqualfragile yeah, windows xp, that were times
18:42 TheLastProject Thinking of that, I don't really need MySQL...
18:42 Calinou TheLastProject: do you have a SSD?
18:42 Calinou are you including POST?
18:42 TheLastProject I don't have a SSD
18:43 TheLastProject And no, POST has nothing to do with the kernel
18:43 Calinou it still makes for most of the boot time
18:43 iqualfragile boot time measurements are allways from grub to login, aren't they?
18:43 Calinou no
18:43 TheLastProject I measure from GRUB to login, at least :P
18:43 Calinou boot time almost always includes POST else you are unrealistic
18:43 Matsetes Hi!
18:43 TheLastProject But the kernel speed has nothing to do with POST
18:43 Matsetes Where can I find how to craft dyes?
18:44 FreeFull You can make POST faster by flashing a different bios
18:44 Calinou or not
18:44 Calinou FreeFull: you usually disable unneeded features in BIOS
18:44 Calinou some mobos have presets for that
18:44 TheLastProject Gimme coreboot :|
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18:45 Calinou challenge: put coreboot on a mpower
18:45 Calinou :phoronix rolleyes:
18:48 iqualfragile finaly done, hope it worked
18:48 iqualfragile i realy need to choose an mainboard supporting coreboot next time i buy one
18:48 iqualfragile those get to grub in about 3 secs
18:49 Calinou lol
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19:00 sfan5 Exio: ping
19:00 Exio pong
19:09 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #109 from Novatux/mvps_fix c14cb331fe 2013-06-15T12:08:41-07:00 http://git.io/48o7Lg
19:09 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix pistons not updating the nodes when placing them again. 6efe579f68 2013-06-15T10:15:43-07:00 http://git.io/LWa0Tg
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19:47 sfan5 why the fuck does every program use the slow ftp.gnu.org server? >.<
19:47 iqualfragile what kind of program?
19:47 PilzAdam my "hello world" program doesnt
19:47 sfan5 buildroot
19:47 sfan5 PilzAdam: you know what I mean
19:48 iqualfragile you can change that
19:48 PilzAdam sfan5, nope
19:48 sfan5 PilzAdam: ...
19:48 iqualfragile i know what PilzAdam means
19:48 iqualfragile #!/bin/bash
19:48 PilzAdam :-p
19:48 iqualfragile echo "Hello World!"
19:48 khonkhortisan that's a script
19:50 Calinou sfan5, fast internet is non-free
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20:35 VanessaE zzz
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20:52 sfan5 VanessaE: ?
20:52 VanessaE hm?
20:52 sfan5 <VanessaE> zzz
20:52 VanessaE just my way of noting that it's gotten quiet in here, in fewer words :)
20:53 VanessaE (kinda surprised, it used to be busy as hell this time of day)
20:54 * sfan5 thinks about adding a searchable channel log to MinetestBot
20:55 Exio i will talk if you highlight me :P
20:55 Exio i think i count as idler ^^
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20:55 * VanessaE highlights Exio ... just because.
20:56 Exio ew, about what do you me to talk? :P
20:56 VanessaE I dunno :P
20:57 sfan5 yay! buildroot finished building
20:57 Exio what is your cpu sfan5?
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20:57 Exio i got the pull request 777 :D
20:58 sfan5 Exio:
20:58 sfan5 vendor_id: GenuineIntel
20:58 sfan5 cpu family: 6
20:58 sfan5 model: 42
20:58 sfan5 model name: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2410M CPU @ 2.30GHz
20:58 sfan5 was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
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20:58 Exio haha
20:58 sfan5 :/
20:58 sfan5 shouldn't ShadowBot ignore me?
20:58 Exio no idea
20:59 Exio would anyone that plays MT try https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751 ?
20:59 Exio i want comments about the "normal usage" of it
20:59 sfan5 hm, should I remove the arm-linux-* symlinks
20:59 VanessaE Exio: it takes some getting used to but I like it.
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20:59 PilzAdam Exio, there are still some points that can be fixed
20:59 Exio PilzAdam: what points?
21:00 PilzAdam e.g. if you press Esc dont open the pause menu
21:00 Exio already "fixed"
21:00 PilzAdam oh
21:00 Exio the only thing that i can't "fix" is the f10 bug
21:00 Exio :P
21:00 Exio but afaik there is a f10-similar bug for the actual chat window
21:01 Exio this is sad
21:01 Exio downloading the packages takes way more than compiling them...
21:02 Exio PilzAdam: what other things?
21:02 Exio to "fix"
21:02 Exio maybe making the console default alpha value a bit "lower" by default?
21:04 PilzAdam what about copy and paste?
21:05 PilzAdam well, paste, copy is not so important
21:05 Calinou +1 for slightly lower console alphe
21:05 PilzAdam no, the alpha is good
21:05 VanessaE G*D yes we need working copy&past3e
21:05 PilzAdam everyone feel free to adjust it in minetest.conf
21:05 VanessaE copy&paste*
21:05 * Calinou would like to see an "Advanced settings" button in "Settings", where you could see checkboxes and sliders for ALL settings
21:05 PilzAdam Calinou, -> lua menu
21:05 Calinou VanessaE, gigabyte answers: "Use Windows" :P
21:06 PilzAdam VanessaE, it works if I select the paste in Klipper (the KDE paste program)
21:07 PilzAdam (not in the console, though)
21:08 VanessaE no way at all to paste into the game for me, though I can copy out from the existing 't' chat/command line dialog.
21:08 VanessaE (xfce clipman isn't enough)
21:09 PilzAdam \o/ first result when searching "Irrlicht numpad Linux" in ixquick: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/373
21:09 VanessaE and the F10 screen will break even that much - can't even copy out at all from there.
21:10 VanessaE supposedly fixed in irrlicht.  fat lota good that does us.
21:10 VanessaE lotta*
21:11 VanessaE noting the date, obviously that fix either never made it to the ubuntu packages or the irrlicht git repo, or it was for a different bug.
21:11 VanessaE http://sourceforge.net/p/irrlicht/bugs/247/
21:11 PilzAdam seconf result: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3792
21:11 PilzAdam -f+d
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21:13 VanessaE the numpad works perfectly for me in both F10 and the 't' window.
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21:14 PilzAdam only 3, 0 and 9 work in the Irrlicht textfields, and no key works in the console
21:14 Exio i'm starting my windows vm for testing something
21:14 Exio woo
21:15 Exio it was a 10 seconds boot
21:15 sfan5 Exio: how do I make a static executable with the toolchain?
21:15 VanessaE PilzAdam: for me, the whole numpad works, no issues whatsoever in menus, 't' window, F10...
21:15 Calinou VMs boot quicker than bare metal, Exio
21:17 Exio sfan5: -static (and -Os -s)
21:17 Exio Calinou: i don't count the bios in the system boot time
21:20 Exio http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/classirr_1_1_i_o_s_operator.html
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21:26 sfan5 good night
21:26 VanessaE night
21:26 Exio night sfan5
21:27 Exio and, good damnit
21:27 Exio getTextFromClipboard is.. returning nothing :(
21:29 PilzAdam VanessaE, why is your server so slow?
21:29 VanessaE slow in what way?>
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21:29 VanessaE you timed out is why.
21:30 PilzAdam it takes ages to connect, and then sending item defs, node defs, and media is _really_slow
21:30 VanessaE same old media download slowness as usual
21:30 VanessaE I don't use cURL like some do, I consider it a security risk and a stupid hack
21:31 VanessaE so you're getting the media the only way MT knows how - through its' slower-than-shit UDP media fetching code :)
21:31 VanessaE its*
21:31 PilzAdam no
21:31 PilzAdam its worse
21:32 VanessaE seems normal here
21:33 VanessaE nothing out of the ordinary.  maybe just normal network lag between you and I?
21:33 PilzAdam well, it was always faster
21:33 PilzAdam do you have many new mods installed?
21:34 PilzAdam and why doesnt Minetest cache meshes?
21:34 VanessaE nothing unusual.  I added future_ban the other day, that's about it, and of course I keep my game up-to-date
21:34 VanessaE ask taoki about that one
21:34 VanessaE he's the mesh expert :)
21:34 PilzAdam Taoki|away, ping
21:35 Exio VanessaE: she*
21:35 Uberi PilzAdam: future_ban is brilliant!
21:35 PilzAdam Exio, *he
21:36 PilzAdam see his youtube videos
21:36 Exio k
21:36 VanessaE Exio: he.
21:36 VanessaE he's said as much,.
21:38 PilzAdam WTFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
21:38 Exio wat!!!
21:38 PilzAdam my fucking WLAN
21:39 PilzAdam was almost finished with download media
21:39 PilzAdam 21:37:44: ERROR[main]: Client disconnected
21:39 Exio haha
21:39 * PilzAdam rages
21:39 PilzAdam !kick PilzAdam
21:40 PilzAdam MinetestBot!
21:40 MinetestBot PilzAdam!
21:40 Uberi VanessaE: didn't you publish the cache folder sometime in the past?
21:40 VanessaE yep
21:40 VanessaE it's a little out of date, but still usable.
21:41 VanessaE I'll prepare a fresh one right now.
21:43 PilzAdam VanessaE, can you please reduce the length of your motd? it almost covers the whole 800x600 window
21:44 VanessaE PilzAdam: it's hard enough getting people to fricken read it as it is :-/
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21:45 VanessaE there, the cache download is updated
21:45 Uberi maybe more people would read it if it were shorter :P
21:45 PilzAdam ^
21:45 PilzAdam also, the link in there makes no sense at all
21:45 PilzAdam and it says "use 0.4.6"
21:45 VanessaE oops
21:45 VanessaE ok I'll fix it.
21:46 PilzAdam "Version: latest git | Interact priv: ask in forum | No griefing, be polite, use common human sense"
21:46 PilzAdam ^ there you go
21:46 Menche my server hasn't shown up on the serverlist for ages
21:47 Menche but it says that it's announcing
21:48 Uberi Menche: is the master server address right?
21:48 Menche servers.minetest.net
21:48 Exio PilzAdam: what is your buildwin32.sh script?
21:49 Menche that's serverlist_url, right?
21:49 Uberi I think so yeah
21:49 Menche it says that it is announcing
21:49 PilzAdam Exio, modified version of the buildbot in util/
21:49 Exio can i have it? :P
21:50 PilzAdam it wouldnt run
21:50 Exio why not?
21:50 PilzAdam I have removed the download part and link to already downloaded libs
21:50 Exio (just paste it)
21:51 PilzAdam it also git pulls in an existing clone of the repo instead of redownloading it all the time
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21:51 VanessaE PilzAdam: look now.
21:51 Exio that is what i want
21:51 VanessaE fuck
21:51 VanessaE typo'd
21:51 Exio i want to see how you may have implemented that
21:51 Exio haha
21:51 Exio poor VanessaE :P
21:52 PilzAdam I also have splitted it up into 4 scripts
21:52 Exio upload all of them, then
21:52 VanessaE restarted it.
21:52 PilzAdam Exio, *sigh*
21:53 Exio hey, i just want to look what you use
21:53 VanessaE well, it reads now, "Welcome to VanessaE's server! Using Minetest 0.4.7 (git commit 29ef1f84[...]).  Read the server's rules at http://bit.ly/YaWD50"
21:53 VanessaE that's as short as it needs to get. :)
21:57 john_minetest How are the server in the list sorted? Of course players online first. But then? Name?
21:57 john_minetest Or uptime?
21:58 VanessaE Matsetes: *poke*
21:58 Exio WTF
21:58 Exio "Buffering"
21:58 Exio ... when playing a local file
21:58 Matsetes VanessaE: What?
21:58 Uberi looks like uptime to me john_minetest
21:58 john_minetest Exio: Are you using a tape drive? ;)
21:59 VanessaE sign onto my server so I can protect your house out here at the north end of the town
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21:59 Matsetes Oh, dunno if I will continue it
21:59 VanessaE why not? :(
21:59 PilzAdam VanessaE, do you think that anyone will ever copy that link?
21:59 Exio john_minetest: nah
21:59 Matsetes I'm playing in a local server with a friend
22:00 VanessaE PilzAdam: they'd better try, or type it in, if they wanna play on my server
22:00 Matsetes VanessaE: And why that sad smile?
22:00 Uberi VanessaE: isn't it copyable from the console?
22:00 VanessaE Matsetes: ohh..  well still sign in anyway, so I don't have to take ownership of it.  I had to rebuild roughly half of it yesterday due to griefing.
22:00 Uberi oh wait copy/paste in console
22:00 VanessaE Uberi: beats me.
22:01 Matsetes VanessaE: Oh, you rebuilt my home ^_^
22:02 VanessaE mmhmm
22:02 Matsetes VanessaE: I don't remember the address of the server...
22:02 VanessaE vanessae.mine.bz:30000
22:02 VanessaE I don't like to let interesting structures just sit and rot at griefers' hands.
22:03 iqualfragile its in the serverlist
22:03 Matsetes VanessaE: Thanks a lot in that case
22:05 VanessaE Matsetes: done.
22:06 Matsetes VanessaE: Wow! I'm not already logged in and it's all completed? =)
22:06 VanessaE over where I'm standing is a spot where something was taken that I can't figure out.
22:06 VanessaE yeah, all I need is for you to be "online", even if you're still loading :)
22:06 Matsetes VanessaE: I'm still loading, I cannot see you
22:06 VanessaE Uberi: because of copy&paste issues is why I used a bit.ly link, short enough someone could type it into the browser.
22:07 VanessaE PilzAdam: crashed?
22:07 john_minetest ...
22:07 VanessaE Matsetes: oh ok, well you'll see me once you're in (I teleported you to your house)
22:07 john_minetest I was watching a video and heard strange noises.
22:08 john_minetest Forgot that minetest was running in the background. VanessaE's server. I always heard sheep and wondered why noone in the video complained about the annoying sheep noises xD
22:08 VanessaE baaaah!  :-)
22:09 Exio PilzAdam: what is the content of your libs/luajit?
22:10 PilzAdam VanessaE, btw: I have an admin pickaxe, hope you dont mind
22:10 PilzAdam VanessaE, my wlan sucks
22:10 VanessaE nope, I seem to recall having given one to you anyway :)
22:11 PilzAdam Exio, include/, luajit.dll and liblua.lib
22:11 PilzAdam *luajit.lib
22:12 khonkhortisan evil pickaxe is close enough
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22:21 Exio ] 7,370        602B/s  eta 34s
22:21 Exio that is speed
22:21 Exio 802 bytes per second
22:22 khonkhortisan zoom!
22:22 VanessaE oh my, that's breakneck speed!
22:22 khonkhortisan they used to think there was a human speed limit
22:23 PilzAdam when the first train reached 30 km/h the people placed steel plates arround their heads to protect themselves
22:24 john_minetest Some people thought that elevators and steam trains could cause mental illnesses to drive so fast.
22:24 Uberi they weren't too far off :P
22:25 Uberi judging from the way people drive around here, it's pretty obvious mental illness has got something to do with it!
22:25 PilzAdam I think they were right, whole humanity is ill today ;-9
22:25 PilzAdam -9+)
22:26 john_minetest Eating is the cause of madness. All people who are mad have eaten something in their lives.
22:26 john_minetest *lifes
22:26 Uberi :O
22:26 Uberi brilliant, the cure for madness is to stop eating
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22:29 Exio heck yeah
22:29 Exio fucking finally compiling MT for windows
22:30 PilzAdam inb4 new "Exio's win builds" topic in general
22:30 Exio nah
22:30 Uberi sounds romantic
22:30 Exio i just need windows build for testing if stuff works
22:30 Exio and uploading them would be a pain in the ass with my network
22:30 john_minetest VanessaE: Can you help with my subway on your server? Lots of tracks are protected.
22:31 Exio you can see my download, guess the upload
22:31 VanessaE sure, gimme a sec.
22:31 VanessaE they might have gotten caught up in the protection for the roads.
22:33 john_minetest VanessaE: I think it is a building near the road.
22:34 VanessaE OH
22:34 VanessaE traxie's arch is in the way eh?
22:34 VanessaE I'll fix it.
22:35 Exio make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/home/exio4/sources/minetest_win32/libs/gettext/lib/libintl.dll.a', needed by `/home/exio4/sources/minetest_win32/minetest/bin/minetest.exe'.  Stop
22:35 Exio wat
22:35 Exio no, i don't want gettext
22:35 Exio :/
22:39 PilzAdam Exio, in buildwin32.sh set -DENABLE_GETTEXT to 0
22:39 Exio i did
22:39 john_minetest gtg, bye
22:40 iqualfragile ruskie: playing final fantasy, hmm
22:40 VanessaE damn it
22:40 Exio i rm -rfed the build directory
22:40 VanessaE two seconds more and I woulda had his subway stuff protected :-/
22:40 Uberi VanessaE: doesn't protection work for offline players?
22:41 VanessaE nope.
22:41 VanessaE if they're offline, i can't protect.
22:41 Uberi you can probably modify it to do that I bet
22:41 VanessaE too lazy :P
22:47 TheLastProject Is there any way to change the rendering distance in Minetest?
22:47 PilzAdam yes, + and - keys
22:48 TheLastProject Hmm, I see "Minimum viewing distance" give another number but I don't see real changes :x
22:49 TheLastProject Oh, nevermind
22:49 TheLastProject It makes a difference when I hold +
22:49 TheLastProject Although I was looking for shorter-than-default. Seems that's not really possible :x
22:49 PilzAdam well, hold -
22:50 TheLastProject Yeah, but it only goes down to 5 and that was still much further than I was looking for >.<
22:54 Exio PilzAdam: do you see a difference when compiling to windows? (in speed)
22:54 Exio for a local binary it is way faster
22:54 PilzAdam its slower than with gcc
22:55 PilzAdam note that I use make -j8 in the script
22:55 Exio i changed it to make -j6
22:55 Exio like i always use
22:55 Exio god damnit
22:56 Exio getting the text from the clipboard... works...
22:56 Exio but only on windows
22:56 Exio not linux
22:56 PilzAdam thats already known
22:57 Exio i mean with the api
22:57 Exio http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/docu/classirr_1_1_i_o_s_operator.html#a9026ff9f28b48615971e18fcee6fff4c
22:58 Exio haha
22:58 Exio i see what is the problem
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23:15 VanessaE Exio: but can you fix it? :)
23:15 Exio i have no *freaking* idea what is going on
23:15 Exio when i copy from my windows vm i can "define" the clipboard correctly
23:15 VanessaE that would be a 'no' ;)
23:16 Exio but when i copy from my firefox, with the mouse or ctrl-c
23:16 Exio it changes the clipboard (for the function) to .. nothing
23:16 Exio => what the fuck
23:16 VanessaE maybe there's some flag you have to pass to select which clipboard?
23:16 VanessaE (since there are two in linux)
23:17 Exio i have clipboard-sharing enabled in my vm.. but why does it work and not ctrl-c or selecting text?
23:17 VanessaE dunno
23:18 Exio i installed clipit and enabled clipboard sharing
23:19 Exio https://github.com/malkia/ufo/blob/master/bin/Windows/x86/luajit.dll
23:19 Exio that is my actual clipboard
23:19 Exio clipboard:  0x258e8e0
23:19 Exio for that function ^
23:19 Exio (%s %p)
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23:39 PilzAdam hey Jordach
23:39 PilzAdam hey Jordach2
23:40 Jordach oh fuck
23:40 Jordach strange
23:40 Exio where is Jordach3
23:40 Exio :(
23:40 Jordach Exio, nope.avi
23:40 Jordach PilzAdam, UD 1, Google 0
23:41 VanessaE UD?
23:41 Jordach UrbanDictionary
23:41 Jordach fucking useful with these damn Reddit terms
23:42 VanessaE oh
23:42 Jordach mfw = my face when
23:42 Exio fml til
23:42 Jordach til = today i learned
23:43 Jordach i still prefer the Queen's English
23:43 VanessaE THAT is what that means!?
23:43 Jordach VanessaE, saw the black dress, nice!
23:43 VanessaE thanks
23:43 * Jordach checks again
23:43 PilzAdam <Jordach> i still prefer the Queen's English <- yep
23:43 Jordach VanessaE, you could get away as Batgirl
23:43 VanessaE oh please
23:44 Jordach provided you add a batman symbol
23:44 VanessaE no way
23:44 Jordach </joke>
23:44 Jordach </html>
23:44 Matsetes VanessaE: How to make violet dye?
23:45 Jordach Matsetes, blue + red
23:45 Jordach iirc
23:45 Matsetes It gaves magenta
23:45 Jordach then add more blue to that
23:45 Jordach magenta + blue = violet
23:45 Jordach PilzAdam, i got worked over by three dungeon masters
23:46 Jordach all of them in shadows when i dropped the torch, mfw: OH SHIT
23:46 Matsetes Thanks
23:46 Matsetes Can coloured wool return blank?
23:47 PilzAdam with white dye
23:47 Jordach wtf
23:47 Matsetes It does not work
23:47 Jordach im away for a single day: 70 emails
23:48 Matsetes I tried a magenta wool with white dye
23:51 Jordach magenta / red + white = pink
23:51 Jordach pink + white = white
23:51 Jordach (the magenta pink combo shoud happen
23:51 Jordach )
23:53 Jordach VanessaE, refer to this if calinou says a concatenated string; http://www.urbandictionary.com/
23:54 Matsetes pink + white does not kork
23:54 Matsetes *work
23:54 Matsetes =(
23:54 Jordach hm
23:54 Jordach sounds like a bug
23:54 Jordach Matsetes, suggestion, only use dyes when needed
23:54 Jordach so that there is less waste
23:55 Jordach im no particular fan of spare items
23:55 Matsetes Yes, I was just trying
23:55 Jordach ikr
23:56 Jordach nearly forgot the word despair
23:58 Jordach which is amazing is im a grammar nazi
23:58 Jordach python 2.7.4 > pilzadam.sleep() = true
23:58 PilzAdam *I'm

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