Time Nick Message 00:00 * Uberi pats MinetestBot 00:12 Exio a super-random offtopic question, how would you handle dynamic-defined entities in a game engine? 00:12 Uberi you could define existing entities and modify their properties? 00:12 Exio not all the properties 00:13 Uberi it works per-entity too! 00:13 Uberi which ones? 00:13 Exio things like the texture/name/"that stuff" should be locked 00:13 Exio all other stuff should be able to get tweaked in runtime if wanted 00:13 Uberi nah texture isn't locked, it's changable via lua 00:13 Exio no no 00:13 Exio i don't mean in minetest 00:13 Uberi see: player skin changers 00:13 Exio in a "random game" 00:13 Uberi oh 00:14 Uberi well in my games they all go into the world's spatial tree 00:15 Exio hmm 00:15 Exio spatial tree? 00:15 Uberi yeah, makes a ton of things a lot easier 00:15 Uberi especially physics 00:16 Uberi the physics engine reuses it for broadphase collision 00:17 Exio i actually just want to try to make an "example game" for learning how to use lua, sdl and a "real use" of OOP 00:17 Exio so it will be a plataform 2d game 00:18 Uberi hmm, you could always just throw it all in a array-like table and do whatever if there are a reasonable number of entities 00:19 Uberi it worked quite well for me with some quite complex entities, about 50+ onscreen at once before performance starts to drop 00:19 Exio i don't really think the entities will be very complex 00:20 Exio the "most complex" entities will be dumb balls or so :P 00:20 Exio my idea is trying to make the engine "the simple that it can be" and make the IA and not-'heavy' stuff in lua 00:20 Exio AI/IA 00:20 Exio w/e :P 00:21 Uberi it doesn't really matter how you store it if it's a simple scene without too many objects in it 00:21 Exio yep 00:22 Exio my first base-idea was making a lot of "virtual entities" without doing anything special with them and making lua define "them" per entity 00:41 khonkhortisan JPEG FATAL ERROR: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x89 0x50 ok... what file? 00:42 kahrl khonkhortisan: try minetest --verbose 00:42 kahrl this can't really be fixed because it's in irrlicht 00:43 khonkhortisan I like verbose better than a half-full Media bar 00:43 khonkhortisan it shows me it's doing something 01:01 khonkhortisan VanessaE, above error for 128px files: default_ice.jpg homedecor_gate_barbed_wire_left.jpg homedecor_gate_barbed_wire_right.jpg homedecor_gate_chainlink_left.jpg homedecor_gate_chainlink_right.jpg moretrees_fir_trunk.jpg moretrees_fir_trunk_top.jpg | Also, "unknown block" is now "unknown node" 01:01 khonkhortisan bin/minetest --verbose > log 2>&1 ; grep -B 1 "JPEG FATAL ERROR:" < log 01:01 VanessaE thanks, I'll fix them now. 01:11 VanessaE khonkhortisan: fixed in git. 01:18 khonkhortisan got it 01:25 BlockMen bye 02:04 arsdragonfly !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 02:04 MinetestBot arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30000 seems to be down 02:04 arsdragonfly !up arsenalmp.no-ip.org 30002 02:04 MinetestBot arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30002 is up (390ms) 02:28 khonkhortisan it just sits there and mocks me http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121014220336/thetekkit/images/b/b5/Null_Cell.png 02:31 VanessaE heh 02:31 VanessaE you can do it :) 02:32 khonkhortisan "the server owner must op the mod itself, by typing, '/Op [redpower(2)]'...because [the Deployer needs] permission to interact with the environment" 02:36 * arsdragonfly plans to turn his phone into a dedicated server 02:36 arsdragonfly I'll have a new one soon :-D 03:53 Tesseract VanessaE: Could you add the colon character to the signs in homedecor? 03:54 VanessaE I'll try 03:55 Tesseract Thanks. :-) It will require great drawing skills. ;-) 03:56 * [0gb_us] is away: away 03:58 khonkhortisan are animated inventory images supported yet? 03:59 VanessaE I don't think so 04:03 VanessaE Tesseract: fixed in git. 04:07 VanessaE (had to look up how the charmap works, since thexyz originally wrote it :) 04:17 Tesseract [0gb_us]: Please turn off that away CTCP ACTION. 04:17 [0gb_us] Hmm? How do I do that? And why? 04:17 khonkhortisan * [0gb_us] is away: away 04:18 Tesseract (On my IRC network I block it with a module) 04:18 [0gb_us] Yea, I know what it is. Just not how to turn it off or why. 04:18 [0gb_us] *Yeah 04:18 Tesseract [0gb_us]: Look in your settings, because it is annoying. 04:19 [0gb_us] Personally, I find it useful on clients that don't report the /away status to the user. 04:20 Tesseract It is spammy, if you don't respond they can assume that you are away. 04:20 [0gb_us] Okay, found the setting. 04:20 Tesseract Imagine if everyone had it set. 04:20 [0gb_us] WHen I don't respond, some people get mad thinking I'm ignoring them. 04:20 [0gb_us] I don't see the issue with others having it set. 04:21 khonkhortisan that's their problem, this is irc 04:21 Tesseract Their problem. :-) A lot of the messages in the channel would be away/back messages. 04:21 [0gb_us] It turns into MY problem when they get mad at me. 04:22 Tesseract /mode +q/b/R/g 04:23 khonkhortisan /mode #minetest -c 04:25 khonkhortisan or is it S? 04:25 [0gb_us] I don't know. "/help mode" returns nothing. 04:26 Tesseract [0gb_us]: /quote help cmode/umode 04:28 Tesseract khonkhortisan: c is color filter, S is unused. 04:32 [0gb_us] /help says cmode and umode are invalid commands. 04:42 ch98 Yay gcc4.2 is now installed in to this computer 04:43 khonkhortisan why so old? 04:43 khonkhortisan (I have 4.7.1) 04:43 Tesseract [0gb_us]: /quote help 04:44 [0gb_us] /quote returns nothing. 04:44 ch98 well my computer had 4.0.1 when i installed xcode so this is better 04:44 [0gb_us] Ah, I remember xcode. Good times. 04:44 Tesseract I win! 4.8.1 :-) 04:45 VanessaE 4.6.3 here. 04:45 [0gb_us] Same. 4.6.3. 04:46 [0gb_us] I bet it's preinstalled. I don't remember installing that. 04:46 VanessaE build-essential 04:46 VanessaE comes with it. 04:46 [0gb_us] I don't remember installing build-essential either. 04:46 khonkhortisan okay, well who has gdb 7.5.50? It tells you the actual package name of the debuginfo you're missing 04:47 VanessaE not even to compile MT 04:47 VanessaE ? 04:47 Tesseract It is in base-devel/build-essential/whatever your distro calls it. 04:47 khonkhortisan if you build, you have build-essential 04:47 [0gb_us] No, last time I compiled Minetest was before my computer freaked out and I wiped it. 04:47 VanessaE [0gb_us]: odd. well get your butt over to github and grab the latest sources ;) 04:47 VanessaE (or use my build. I seem to recall you run Ubuntu 12.04 also) 04:48 [0gb_us] Nah, I don't need sources. I have a .deb! 04:48 VanessaE of 0.4.7? 04:48 [0gb_us] Come to think of it, I DID compile a few days ago, but on another computer. THAT computer I DID install build-essential on. 04:48 [0gb_us] Yes, a .deb of 0.4.7. 04:49 [0gb_us] It's at minetest.net. 04:51 [0gb_us] I have gdb 7.4-2012.04, it seems. 05:09 arsdragonfly How to create a .x mesh? 05:10 VanessaE blender can export them if you enable the direct-x exporter. 05:12 khonkhortisan Have you looked in the file? 05:22 ch98 oh same old error 05:22 ch98 what is whrong with this??? 05:25 khonkhortisan VanessaE, with 128pxHDX, menu_overlay.png says 128px, while minetest_menu_overlay.png says 512px. 05:25 VanessaE I could swear I fixed all of those 05:25 VanessaE *grumble* 05:26 khonkhortisan it cloned itself to avoid the antivirus 05:26 VanessaE haha 05:27 khonkhortisan I deleted my ~/minetest/cache, I was going to look around in /tmp 05:27 ch98 Can anyone test my concrete mod? I updated it but never got to test it without minetest 05:27 khonkhortisan the liquid-to-solid one? 05:29 khonkhortisan And also, the button-glass-mesecon connection has insulated texture on the top and bottom of the part that goes through the glass, but is transparent on the sides. 05:30 VanessaE khonkhortisan: fixed in git 06:02 VanessaE bbl, bedtime. 06:02 [0gb_us] Good night. 06:51 silwol good morning 06:51 silwol ...at least for those in a timezone near me 08:14 Calinou the new grass sound is nice, but cuts sharply at end :/ 08:29 arsdragonfly PlayerArgsEnd not found 08:29 arsdragonfly how to fix that? 08:30 [0gb_us] Delete your players. 08:30 [0gb_us] Or find which player account is bugged up, and delete just that one. 08:31 arsdragonfly how to find the bugged one ? I don't like to look through every player 08:31 arsdragonfly Or, is there a line of PlayerArgsEnd at the end of each player's profile? 08:32 [0gb_us] Yeah, you'd have to look through all of them, unless you want to perform some command line wizardry. 08:32 [0gb_us] Yeah, I think that's at the end of the file. 08:32 [0gb_us] Of all the files. 08:34 arsdragonfly hmmm 08:34 * arsdragonfly goes to learn some bash script 08:37 [0gb_us] Hmm. I don't know how to loop through files in a directory, but if you know how to do that, you could use grep to search each file. 09:17 whirm arsdragonfly: for FILE in *.thing ; do whatever $FILE ; done 09:18 arsdragonfly whirm : minetest player profile filename has no suffix :-( 09:18 whirm then * 09:18 whirm only 09:19 whirm brb 09:23 whirm arsdragonfly: what are you looking for in the file btw? 09:30 arsdragonfly whirm : nvm I've finished the script 09:30 whirm k 09:30 arsdragonfly Thanks all the same 09:30 whirm np 10:25 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:26 Calinou hi 10:30 arsdragonfly|pho hey guys 10:30 arsdragonfly|pho http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=94578 10:31 arsdragonfly|pho bash script for the PlayerArgsEnd error 10:33 lamefun http://pastebin.com/f4Ub2zxz --- outputs: 10:33 lamefun Found target: lamefun 10:33 lamefun null!??!?! we have target! 10:33 lamefun what's wrong with the code? 12:33 arsdragonfly It's been so quiet for a few hours... 12:33 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Enable word wrapping in profiler IGUIStaticText (freetype needs this) 21d6b39fd7 2013-06-13T05:32:53-07:00 http://git.io/GbMSsw 12:33 arsdragonfly Oh 12:34 kahrl good timing ;) 12:36 arsdragonfly That looks good 12:37 arsdragonfly can the text in a formspec textarea be wrapped? 12:38 kahrl does every mod want that? 12:38 arsdragonfly idk but I think it'll be good for kaeza's bookex mod 12:39 arsdragonfly maybe textual fields need that too 12:54 KikaRz Hello everyone! 12:55 PilzAdam KikaRz, there are new commits at minetest/minetest and minetest/minetest_game, you can test your update scripts 12:55 KikaRz Yay :D 12:55 KikaRz What they have? 12:58 iqualfragile hi 12:58 KikaRz Oh, Minetest_game has new sounds 12:58 KikaRz and Minetest update, has wordwrapping, right? 13:00 KikaRz guys, when we do make -j5, on a already compiled version, it just updates? 13:03 KikaRz my minetest is crashing '-' 13:05 KikaRz I guess my "test" world is corrupted. 13:05 KikaRz I can't delete it 13:05 KikaRz And It's crashing my minetest 13:12 iqualfragile KikaRz: yes, it just updates the changed parts (in case you have not executed make clean) and rebuilds the binaries 13:12 iqualfragile rm .minetest/worlds/test ? 13:12 KikaRz :( 13:12 KikaRz i loved my cute world 13:12 KikaRz bye cutie world 13:13 iqualfragile mv .minetest/worlds/test .minetest/corrupttest 13:13 KikaRz ? 13:13 KikaRz It's one directory. 13:14 KikaRz rm -r ? 13:14 iqualfragile you could just move your world to another location and hope for a tool to get released to fix it 13:14 KikaRz *f 13:14 iqualfragile it would be rm -r to delete 13:14 KikaRz yes, its r 13:14 iqualfragile but moving it might be smarter 13:14 KikaRz rm -r makes folders and etc to get removed 13:16 KikaRz Have coloredblocks something related to papyrus??? http://i.imgur.com/kb81HsO.png 13:16 KikaRz lawl 13:17 KikaRz Good news everyone... My mod "coloredblocks" will be launched officially today, but... Will have constant updates. 13:32 * arsdragonfly hopes minetest will be rolling updated on linux and windows 13:45 lamefun in Lua 13:45 lamefun how do I know that an ObjectRef no longer exist? 13:46 PilzAdam lamefun, if minetest.object_refs[your_object_ref] ~= nil then 13:47 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Reset dig_time when switching to a tool that cant dig the current node 7a58c1d4ca 2013-06-13T06:34:48-07:00 http://git.io/K_g4Ag 13:48 lamefun how to know if a node is passable? 13:50 lamefun and how to check if something obstructs a line? 13:50 PilzAdam passable? 13:50 PilzAdam you mean if you can walk through it like troches? 13:50 PilzAdam *troches 13:50 PilzAdam *torch 13:51 lamefun yes 13:51 PilzAdam in the node definition table the field walkable says if you can walk on it, so torches are walkable = false 13:52 PilzAdam dirt and stone are walkable = true 13:52 PilzAdam so, walkable pretty much means "solid" 13:52 PilzAdam and how to check if something obstructs a line? <- minetest.env:line_of_sight(pos1,pos2,stepsize) ->true/false 13:53 PilzAdam do you want to make a turret mod? 13:53 lamefun yes 13:53 lamefun how do you know? 13:53 lamefun they already work, in fact 13:53 lamefun just blocked by grass and water 13:55 lamefun ... 13:55 lamefun PilzAdam, line_of_sight is blocked by water 13:57 kahrl water is transparent (by default anyway) 13:58 kahrl line_of_sight only checks for air it seems 13:59 PilzAdam shouldnt it check for solidness or so? 13:59 kahrl yeah it seems like a bug 13:59 kahrl I mean, assume you're in a 1x2x1 shaft -> block the top and bottom with a torch -> mobs can't see you through that hatch anymore 14:00 lamefun and how to use :punch? 14:00 PilzAdam yep, environment.cpp:385 if(n.param0 != CONTENT_AIR) { 14:01 lamefun I copied tool_capabilities from steel sword, but it still doesn't damage 14:01 kahrl in fact, isOccluded in clientmap.cpp looks like a fancier version of line_of_sight 14:01 kahrl it looks at each node's visual_solidness 14:02 kahrl and solidness 14:06 VanessaE good morning all 14:07 sfan5 hi 14:20 VanessaE slow morning huh 14:22 lamefun can I add some numbers or label above LuaEntitySAO? 14:22 lamefun or at least an info text 14:22 lamefun or something 14:22 lamefun or formspec 14:22 PilzAdam nope 14:22 PilzAdam you can use on_rightclick() and show_formspec(), though 14:31 PilzAdam VanessaE, https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/22b0c38ac6fef197ec8360a8adc10f5a85b917b1 14:33 VanessaE checking 14:35 VanessaE that works. 14:36 VanessaE better than the "thump" sound anyway :D 14:36 PilzAdam pushed a fix for gravel and snow 14:36 lamefun PilzAdam, but how to know the turret form is for in register_on_player_receive_fields? 14:38 PilzAdam lamefun, hm? 14:39 lamefun ? 14:39 lamefun function(player, formname, fields) 14:39 lamefun how do I get ObjectRef of turret from that? 14:40 PilzAdam you can use formname for that 14:40 PilzAdam its the same you pass to to show_formspec() 14:40 PilzAdam so you could do something like show_formspec(..., "yourmod:turret_form:"..minetest.serialize(obj), ...) 14:41 PilzAdam hm, better use tostring(obj) there 14:42 lamefun serialize ObjectRed? 14:42 lamefun *ref? 14:42 PilzAdam and then do function(player, formname, fields) obj = minetst.obj_refs[tonumber(string.sub(formname, 20)))] 14:42 PilzAdam tostring(obj_ref) returns the object ID as a string AFAIK 14:43 PilzAdam VanessaE, pushed to upstream 14:44 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Use louder footstep sound as dug_node 179f4c3f91 2013-06-13T07:36:11-07:00 http://git.io/9b7maw 14:46 MinetestBot GIT: metaducky AT gmail DOT com commited to minetest/minetest: Fixes cmake-gui causing RUN_IN_PLACE to be always off 40b2f36eb8 2013-06-13T07:45:52-07:00 http://git.io/tlsE1A 14:52 sfan5 !server ping:least 14:52 MinetestBot sfan5: Minetest❤Ru | minetest.ru | Clients: 2/100, 7 | Version: 0.4.5 | ping: 0.099 14:55 arsdragonfly !server ping.most 14:55 MinetestBot arsdragonfly: No results 14:55 arsdragonfly !server ping:most 14:55 MinetestBot arsdragonfly: Arsdragonfly's server | arsenalmp.no-ip.org:30002 | Clients: 0/100, 2 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.468 14:55 PilzAdam heh 14:55 arsdragonfly uh :-P 14:55 PilzAdam MinetestBot, disable troll mode 14:55 arsdragonfly well that's expected 14:56 sfan5 !server players:most 14:56 MinetestBot sfan5: Ray's server | 173.195.255.46 | Clients: 11/25, 16 | Version: 0.4.7-7734717 | ping: 0.220 14:59 lamefun mgturret:turret_form:userdata: 0x7f8314014cb8 14:59 lamefun it doesn't look like a number 15:00 PilzAdam hmm, there was a way to get the object ID 15:05 PilzAdam lamefun, dunno, you could have your own table where you store the object ref by an unique index 15:06 lamefun How to get notified when object is deactivated? 15:06 PilzAdam there is no callback for that 15:07 lamefun ... 15:08 PilzAdam you can store the ID in the Lua entity too 15:10 lamefun PilzAdam, whats' stored in fields in receive_fields? 15:10 lamefun how to know what button was clicked? 15:11 PilzAdam a table like {["button_name"]="button_text"} where only the clicked button is not nil 15:12 PilzAdam and all text fields are there too with {["textfield_name"]="entered text"} 15:12 PilzAdam just use print(dump(fields)) to see it better 15:13 VanessaE PilzAdam: make jungle grass and dry shrubs buildable_to 15:14 PilzAdam junglegrass already has buildable_to = true 15:14 VanessaE double-check that, it ain't behaving as such for me. 15:14 VanessaE (my own shorter ones do though) 15:15 PilzAdam yep, it definitely is buildable_to 15:15 VanessaE looks like it's being redefined by the farming mod. 15:15 PilzAdam yes 15:16 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Make dry shrubs buildable_to d7784c0729 2013-06-13T08:15:42-07:00 http://git.io/j6Il0w 15:16 VanessaE fix it. :) 15:16 VanessaE or moreblocks redefines it too. hmm. 15:16 PilzAdam the farming mod has buildable_to too 15:16 VanessaE I'll make a point to yell at calinou - his isn't registered as such. 15:17 VanessaE in fact he's got a bunch of stuff here that's being redefined. 15:30 Zeg9 Hello ! 15:32 PilzAdam hi 15:44 sfan5 !up sfan5.dyndns.org 30010 15:44 MinetestBot sfan5.dyndns.org:30010 seems to be down 15:45 VanessaE PilzAdam: what do you plan to do with that hacky water code? It does seem to help, at the expense of making water stop flowing altogether in extreme cases (plus it spams the console) 15:45 sfan5 !up sfan5.dyndns.org 30010 15:45 MinetestBot sfan5.dyndns.org:30010 is up (203ms) 15:46 sfan5 thexyz: the minetest.ru ping thing doesn't send a (correct) disconnect packet to the minetest server 15:46 sfan5 *servers.minetest.net 15:46 rubenwardy Hi all! 15:46 sfan5 hi rubenwardy 15:46 PilzAdam VanessaE, you can just remove the debug output 15:47 sfan5 guys!! I got curl working with android minetestserver 15:47 sfan5 !server android 15:47 MinetestBot sfan5: Experimental Server running on an Android phone | 79.235.63.208:30010 | Clients: 0/100, 0 | Version: 0.4.7 | ping: 0.150 15:47 KikaRz Hello there :) 15:48 rubenwardy Had a media exam today, geography was yesturday. Last exam is tomorrow: Maths 15:49 KikaRz My college finishes tomorrow, too! 15:50 VanessaE PilzAdam: well I meant do you plan to push that to git? 15:51 VanessaE er...you know what I mean. 15:56 Zeg9 Could one of you please merge #166 (since 0.4.7 is released) 16:17 sfan5 the fuck!! 16:18 sfan5 I'm running a server for like 1 minute and plop first griefer appears 16:18 KikaRz lol 16:18 KikaRz I can't enter it 16:18 sfan5 thats not funny 16:18 sfan5 its down 16:19 lamefun about mobf 16:19 lamefun how to know if something is a mob? 16:19 lamefun I allowed turrets to damage everything 16:19 lamefun now they shoot meat that falls from cows and server crashes 16:20 rubenwardy lol 16:20 sfan5 KikaRz: up 16:20 rubenwardy is there a key function in the entity's tables? 16:20 sfan5 !up sfan5.dyndns.org 30010 16:20 ShadowBot sfan5: sfan5.dyndns.org:30010 is up (713ms) 16:21 sfan5 ...what the fuc+ 16:21 sfan5 s/+/k 16:21 sfan5 where is MinetestBot again 16:21 PilzAdam * MinetestBot hat die Verbindung getrennt (Remote host closed the connection) 16:21 sfan5 screen says: "" 1900.mtbot (06/12/13 21:08:12) (Dead ???) 16:21 sfan5 "" 16:21 PilzAdam you need to read the part messages 16:22 sfan5 :O 16:24 Jordach ~MinetestB@5 16:25 Jordach ^ reads like MinetestBS 16:25 Jordach and its raining 16:26 sfan5 Its raining at my place too 16:26 Jordach sfan5, :D 16:26 Jordach <- likes the rain 16:26 Jordach <- windows 7 user 16:27 Jordach I swear i saw JQuery in Blender 16:27 KikaRz Here it's sunny. 16:27 Jordach anyways: rebootingh 16:27 Jordach (system updates) 16:27 PilzAdam lol, rebooting for updated 16:27 PilzAdam -d+s 16:28 mitori hello everyone 16:28 LunaVorax Does Windows still reboot for updates? 16:28 PilzAdam LunaVorax, you usually get a bluescreen before it comes to the reboot 16:29 KikaRz Yea. 16:29 KikaRz STUPID 16:29 KikaRz '-' 16:29 LunaVorax I wish it was true 16:29 KikaRz PilzAdam, my last update on Windows, resulted in a BSOD 16:29 KikaRz *on a 16:29 mitori can anybody help me? 16:29 KikaRz .net Framework 4.5 16:29 KikaRz '-' 16:29 LunaVorax LOL dotNet 16:30 KikaRz stupid 16:31 LunaVorax Stop saying stupid 16:31 LunaVorax You start to sound like Bobby Zilch 16:32 * mitori whispers to Kikarz: silly. 16:32 KikaRz mitori, what? 16:32 mitori instead of stooopid. 16:38 KikaRz ok 16:38 KikaRz silly windows. 16:38 KikaRz silly dotNet 16:38 KikaRz silly updates 16:39 LunaVorax The funny part is when KikaRz is revealed to be a MacFag 16:40 KikaRz I hate MacDunald 16:41 rubenwardy windowophobia! 16:41 rubenwardy I dislike the word "fag" 16:46 PilzAdam awwww, its such a nice word 16:46 PilzAdam what did it do to you? 16:47 Jordach JESUS CHRIST 16:47 Jordach WHAT DID YOU DO 16:50 * PilzAdam confirms 16:56 rubenwardy How do you say "fool" in german? 16:56 rubenwardy täuschen! 16:57 PilzAdam Narr 16:57 rubenwardy confusing 16:57 rubenwardy what is the difference between täuschen and narr? 16:57 PilzAdam täuschen is a verb, something like "to bluff" 16:57 rubenwardy ah 16:57 PilzAdam its Narr, not narr 16:57 rubenwardy or to fool someone 16:57 PilzAdam nouns are always caps at first lette 16:57 rubenwardy ok 16:57 PilzAdam +r 16:58 lamefun how to export to "b3d"? 16:58 rubenwardy export->b3d? 16:59 rubenwardy (blender?) 16:59 rubenwardy file->export->b3d? 17:00 Calinou x > b3d 17:00 Jordach <3 .X 17:00 Calinou .mir > .wayland > .x, though 17:00 Matsetes Hi guys! 17:01 Calinou hi 17:01 rubenwardy HELLO 17:01 Matsetes I have some doubts about playing in multiplayer 17:01 rubenwardy LETS TALK LIKE I CAN NOT FIND MY CAPS LOCK KEY 17:01 lamefun Calinou, Microsoft Desktop Window Manager, prescribed for people by the Global Government! 17:01 rubenwardy MY CAT ATE IT 17:02 PilzAdam !kick rubenwardy CAPS 17:02 Jordach lol 17:02 PilzAdam rubenwardy, you found your caps lock key now? 17:02 Calinou lamefun: windows' graphics stack has no name, really 17:02 Jordach NOPE 17:02 rubenwardy !kick PilzAdam FOR BEING A STUPID PRICK 17:02 rubenwardy PilzAdam!*@* added to ignore list. 17:02 Matsetes I thought that using the ip of the other player who is running the game will work 17:02 Calinou HUH, RUBENWARDY SAID SOME NON-CAP CHARACTERS 17:02 Matsetes What I have to do? 17:03 PilzAdam rubenwardy, MinetestBot cant handle mor than one word kick messages 17:03 Calinou :-) 17:03 lamefun how to export 3d models for use in Minetest? 17:03 rubenwardy !kick PilzAdam FOR_BEING_A_STUPID_PRICK 17:03 Calinou PilzAdam: forbeingastupidprick! 17:03 Calinou lamefun: .x is the best format for minetest 17:04 rubenwardy WHY IS PILZADAM A BELL END? 17:04 Calinou IIRC, only single-part models are supported 17:04 Jordach PilzAdam, if you cant handle the community then stay in -dev 17:05 rubenwardy !rev RACECAR 17:05 MinetestBot RACECAR 17:05 Jordach !rev lol 17:05 MinetestBot lol 17:06 lamefun Calinou, x3d is XML, b3d is binary 17:09 lamefun and DirectX X exporter exports .x, not .b3d 17:10 Jordach lamefun, you can export as you plase 17:10 Jordach please* 17:10 Jordach if Irrlicht supports it, Minetest does too 17:11 Jordach b3d and .x are known to be supported 17:12 Calinou b3d/x/map/md2/md3 will all work 17:12 Calinou but .x is the most common format in minetest, it is used by carts and player model 17:12 Jordach and i use it as well 17:12 Calinou text formats have their upsides, even if they are heavier 17:12 mitori and once again i want to ask for help 17:12 Jordach yes milleja46 17:12 mitori i have run into nasty bug 17:12 Jordach mitori* 17:13 mitori my map doesn't save the environment 17:13 mitori onlyinventory 17:13 milleja46 bwaha ha ha 17:13 * milleja46 is busy watching the ps e3 live feed :P 17:13 VanessaE Calinou: why are you redefining a bunch of the default nodes, in moreblocks? 17:13 Jordach damit 17:13 Jordach i was going to say VanessaE is about 17:14 VanessaE Jordach: HIYAH! 17:14 mitori milleja46 and how is it? 17:14 VanessaE ninja'd again :D 17:14 Calinou VanessaE: lack of sunlight_propagates 17:14 Jordach VanessaE, i have omniscience 17:14 VanessaE PilzAdam: ^^^^^^ can you two please get together and fix that? 17:14 Jordach you can ask me you know 17:14 Jordach i could Pull Request it 17:15 Jordach [off] and sneak in the moonflower while were at it :) 17:15 milleja46 mitori: amazing, the devs with all the games they are putting out pulled out all the stops to get some amazing games this year 17:15 PilzAdam my map doesn't save the environment <- are you sure that you really modify the inventory and not just a stack (i.e. call inv:set_stack())? 17:15 PilzAdam VanessaE, wut? 17:15 VanessaE PilzAdam: look at his changes and merge them into default and/or farming 17:15 mitori PilzAdam, not through the code. i actually PLAY. go to the menu. get back into the game. all the changes i made - gone 17:15 Calinou would be better if all drawtypes but normal and liquid/flowingliquid had sunlight_propagates = true by default 17:16 Jordach PilzAdam, add sunlight_propagates to nodes like ladders, fences 17:16 Jordach glass... 17:16 Calinou Jordach: my method should work fine 17:16 VanessaE Calinou: probably so, actually. 17:16 Jordach that too 17:16 PilzAdam VanessaE, Calinou, Jordach, isnt that a rather hacky fix? 17:16 VanessaE all the nodes in minetest_game and minimal anywya 17:16 Jordach PilzAdam, NO 17:16 VanessaE PilzAdam: hacky fix for what? plants shouldn't block sunlight 17:17 Calinou PilzAdam: no? 17:17 Calinou this is not harsh linux 17:18 VanessaE ditto for fences, ladders. 17:18 mitori http://imgur.com/Z5Dmfnl,7bHCFNX,Nk6DLLU 17:18 mitori three steps 17:18 Jordach mitori, album them next time 17:18 mitori ok 17:19 Jordach it saves about 1/3 of the kb required to see the link 17:19 mitori alright, got you 17:19 Jordach <- has unlimited internet 17:19 VanessaE all objects should have sunlight_propagates unless that object would create a completely dark room if used to build one. 17:19 Jordach im just being me 17:19 VanessaE plants, ladders, saplings, fences, etc. 17:20 VanessaE s/would/should/ 17:20 khonkhortisan noteblocks had that set wrong 17:20 Calinou unlimited internet here too, just like almost everyone 17:20 khonkhortisan I don't remember which way 17:20 lamefun Could not load mesh, file format seems to be unsupported 17:20 lamefun I exported as .x 17:20 lamefun same result with .obj 17:20 Jordach youre doing it wrong 17:20 PilzAdam VanessaE, sunlight_propagates means: "Dont block sunlight at all"; when we get hardware lighting that would mean: no shadows; I guess you dont want that 17:21 VanessaE PilzAdam: then change it later once we have hardware lighting. 17:21 lamefun cool error messages are very cool, cool 17:21 lamefun Could not load mesh 17:21 khonkhortisan a slab would allow light through horizontally but not vertically 17:21 PilzAdam VanessaE, thats exactly why its hacky 17:21 VanessaE for now, put calinou's changes in so he can stop redefining common nodes. 17:21 PilzAdam it should be independent from the lighting system 17:22 PilzAdam *of 17:22 Calinou no? 17:22 Calinou few nodes might require normal nodes to let light pass through or the inverse 17:22 Calinou eg. light blocks 17:22 VanessaE right 17:22 khonkhortisan ^ that's not a reusable redefine 17:22 lamefun how do I make it say what doesn't it like in my mesh? 17:22 khonkhortisan One mod adds sunlight_propogates, a second mod adds an on_place function and loses the first change 17:22 VanessaE why would something like dirt have sunlight_propagates? it wouldn't. plants should for now, until they are able to cast shadows. 17:23 KikaRz VanessaE, i'm waiting yourz. 17:23 VanessaE KikaRz: busy arguing :) 17:23 KikaRz Ok. 17:23 KikaRz IF YOU TRY TO KILL VANESSAE, I'LL HACK YOU! 17:23 KikaRz that's one warning 17:23 khonkhortisan using what? 17:24 KikaRz 100 computers from Mega.co.nz and 20 from MediaFire. 17:24 KikaRz Kidding 17:24 KikaRz I'll just go to your homes, and kill you. 17:24 * Calinou crushes KikaRz using their case 17:24 khonkhortisan I was thinking something more along the lines of http://www.backtrack-linux.org/ 17:24 khonkhortisan instead of a dos 17:27 lamefun How to make it give useful error messages about my mesh? 17:27 VanessaE PilzAdam: done yet? :) 17:27 PilzAdam hm? 17:28 VanessaE Calinou's changes to the various plants. 17:28 VanessaE the sunlight thing? 17:28 VanessaE we ain't getting hardware lighting for a while, if ever. We need this now. 17:28 Calinou hardware lighting would cause too much complaints from the P4 owners club 17:28 PilzAdam its too hacky. period. 17:28 Calinou wtf? 17:28 VanessaE PilzAdam: it is NOT hacky! 17:28 Calinou PilzAdam: this is exactly not hacky 17:29 VanessaE sublight_propagates is supposed to be set to true on plants et.al 17:29 VanessaE s/sub/sun/ 17:29 Calinou redefining ~15 nodes to fix something is hacky 17:29 KikaRz lol 17:29 PilzAdam it is light system independet; fix the light system rather than the nodes 17:29 VanessaE PilzAdam: NO! 17:29 VanessaE fix the damn nodes first. 17:29 PilzAdam "is supposed to be" {{cn}} 17:29 Calinou how would you "fix the light system", PilzAdam? 17:29 Calinou explain, please 17:29 VanessaE that can be fixed now. fix the lighting system later if it can be fixed at all. 17:30 PilzAdam Calinou, -> hardware lighting -> beatiful shadows 17:30 VanessaE Calinou: he wants objects to be able to cast real shadows, which as I understand will be very CPU expensive. 17:31 Calinou PilzAdam: yes, but the notion of light level would be removed. = how do you make mobs spawn in the dark? 17:31 Calinou VanessaE: GPU intensive you mean 17:31 VanessaE Calinou: hardly, the way this game runs, most of the work is being done by the CPU :-/ 17:31 Calinou and my PC could handle that ok 17:31 VanessaE (though ideally, it should be the GPU) 17:32 Calinou VanessaE: rendering is always done on the GPU 17:32 VanessaE Calinou: if it were being done as much by the GPU as it should be, I wouldn't be pulling 100% of one core and up to 75% of a second core just to do 30 fps. 17:33 Calinou your server is a particular case 17:33 PilzAdam VanessaE, ehm... I dont want to have real shadows in the current system 17:33 Calinou you probably get more than 30 FPS on a new world 17:33 VanessaE PilzAdam: then fix the nodes to work for the *current system* 17:33 Calinou PilzAdam: huh? so why do you want HW lighting? 17:33 PilzAdam Calinou, for shadows? 17:33 VanessaE Calinou: sure, I can break 90fps sometimes, but not if the map has any amount of useful stuff on it. 17:34 PilzAdam VanessaE, s/fix the nodes/use a hack to/ 17:34 VanessaE PilzAdam: it is not hacky. 17:34 VanessaE hacky would be fucking with the C++ code to fix it. 17:34 VanessaE (without really fixing it) 17:35 VanessaE changing a node definition because it's simply wrong for the current system is not hacky. 17:35 Calinou VanessaE: too much nodeboxes probably 17:35 PilzAdam making the node defintion based on the light system is hacky, not other way round 17:35 Calinou + occlusion culling that doesn't cull most stuff 17:36 VanessaE Calinou: I blame occlusion culling. 17:36 lamefun What part is responsible for those ultra-cool ultimate error messages? 17:36 Calinou PilzAdam: "bouncy" group is also a node definition based on the physics system 17:36 Calinou what's your point 17:36 VanessaE PilzAdam: the lighting system at present cannot handle making shadows, and it never will at the rate we're going. 17:36 lamefun irrlicht or minetest? 17:37 VanessaE so to refuse to fix a node definition so that it works properly is not hacky. 17:37 lamefun Maybe I'm missing texture, that's why? 17:37 PilzAdam VanessaE, it acutally creates shadows 17:37 Calinou lamefun: which one 17:37 lamefun No idea 17:37 Calinou not realtime ones, PilzAdam :P 17:37 Calinou lamefun: I mean which error message 17:38 lamefun Calinou, I exported my turret to .x, started the game and 17:38 lamefun Could not load mesh, file format seems to be unsupported: 17:38 lamefun 21:35:41: ERROR[main]: GenericCAO::addToScene(): Could not load mesh 17:38 lamefun very ultra ultimate cool error message 17:38 Calinou :/ 17:38 Calinou it is explicit 17:38 Calinou so why are you sarcasming on it 17:38 lamefun because I want my mesh to work 17:39 sokomine are you doing models/meshs? if so, can you be conviniced of doing a few more animals? :-) we could need more 17:39 VanessaE PilzAdam: please. just fix the node definitions. 17:39 lamefun That's why free is going to die and proprietary to prevail, they have locked-up education and industry standards. A normal, complete person would have given up already. 17:39 VanessaE you can't define against something we don't have, that's as wrong as it gets 17:40 Calinou lamefun: fun fact: having more than one standard creates competition 17:40 Calinou lack of competition? hello 1000 euro celerons :> 17:41 Matsetes Guy, is there anyone who can help me hosting a multiplayer? 17:42 Matsetes I configured the port but it does not work (or it seems so) 17:42 lamefun Calinou, what's the export format that's sure to load? 17:43 Calinou .x. 17:43 Calinou what blender version are you using, lamefun 17:43 Calinou Matsetes: explain "does not work" 17:43 Matsetes It load all the time... I'm trying with my own computer 17:44 lamefun latest 17:44 Matsetes I opened with advanced a world in local at port 30000 17:44 Matsetes I configured the router to open the port 30000 17:45 Matsetes I opened another windows of minetest and in multiplayer I wrote my ip and port 30000 17:46 Calinou le facepalm 17:46 Calinou to connect to your own PC: 127.0.0.1 17:46 Calinou to connect to PC on your network: your internal IP. see "ipconfig" or "ifconfig" 17:46 sfan5 wat 17:46 Calinou to connect to PC on other network: external IP 17:46 Calinou http://youripis.org for external IP 17:47 KikaRz Cool... VanessaE using bad language... * VanessaE expulsou lamefun de #minetest ( don't start that shit again!) 17:47 VanessaE you ain't seen me launch into a real tirade, KikaRz 17:47 VanessaE others here can surely remember my last one. 17:48 Matsetes Calinou ok, with 127.0.0.1 it works 17:48 lamefun Calinou, it's minetest's fault 17:49 PilzAdam nononono 17:49 Matsetes But how can I try if someone other can access to it? 17:49 lamefun I did this: model = "mgturret" instead of mesh = "mgturret.x" 17:49 PilzAdam _MY_ IP is 127.0.0.1. 17:49 Calinou Matsetes: tell someone from another network 17:49 lamefun it should have said: mesh not speficied or mesh "" not found 17:49 Calinou or possibly just find names 17:49 Calinou it does this already 17:49 Calinou texture = "default_stone" searches for default_stone.png, iirc 17:49 Calinou not 100% sure 17:49 Matsetes Calinou Ok, thank's I'll wait for someone 17:50 * Calinou also has 127.0.0.1 17:50 Jordach me too 17:50 * Calinou invents first 128 bit CPU 17:50 Calinou oh I have 126,2323.0.0.1,115 17:51 * Jordach invents 2048 bit CPU 17:52 Calinou not the first one? sucks 17:52 Calinou AMD probably beat you to it 17:53 Jordach Calinou, its called 64 Pi's strapped together 17:54 KikaRz WAIT DAMN IT 17:54 KikaRz ok. 17:54 KikaRz sowwy. 17:54 KikaRz That's the start of a tirade. 17:55 * sfan5 's ip is 127.273.1.6 17:55 MinetestBot minetest.org:30015 is up (502ms) 17:55 Jordach <- runs windows 7 17:56 Jordach mines 192.2.0.2 17:56 Jordach my clementine server is at 192.2.0.3 17:56 Jordach (i use it like spotify) 17:57 KikaRz Really... Now you are talking about IPs? 17:58 Calinou le me finishes a trackmania track, le me is last 17:58 Calinou if noone does worse than me, I get no ladder points :( 17:58 Calinou Jordach: you're on win7 now? weren't you on vista? 17:58 Jordach Calinou, upgraded 17:59 Jordach Calinou, my next target is 8 during next year 17:59 Jordach and this is nearly a 10yr old tower 17:59 Calinou Jordach: paid, or haxored? :P 17:59 Jordach paid 17:59 Calinou john_minetest: yeah, pressforwards 17:59 Jordach its 25 quid 17:59 Calinou pretty boring in multiplayer :P 17:59 Calinou I mostly play fullspeed 17:59 Calinou I'm 8423rd 18:00 Calinou yey one did 38.51 while I did 38.40 18:00 Calinou a guy who is 5873rd... gimme your LP >:D 18:01 Calinou +15.54 :> 18:03 Matsetes Thanks, Calinou, I solved 18:08 Calinou np 18:17 Jordach btw, a nice hole in GPL3 18:18 Jordach delete the source when the app starts 18:18 Calinou "Jordach is allowed to do anything he wants with GPL3" 18:18 Calinou written by RMS at the end 18:18 * Jordach slaps Calinou with a MS Mouse 18:18 * Calinou counterattacks using his G500 18:18 * Jordach counters with a Windows Surface 18:19 Jordach touché 18:19 Jordach microsoft* 18:19 sfan5 meow 18:19 * Jordach hands MinetestBot a kitten 18:19 Jordach MinetestBot, should at random times, just meow 18:20 * khonkhortisan runs in holding a logitech mouse over his head 18:20 PilzAdam sfan5, why doesnt /msg MinetestBot msg #minetest meow work? 18:20 PilzAdam uh, missing ! 18:20 MinetestBot meow 18:20 sfan5 MinetestBot: meow 18:21 sfan5 Jordach: goin' to add that now 18:21 PilzAdam MinetestBot, reaload kitten 18:21 Jordach sfan5, when no one has spoken for 10 mins, it starts a time in mins 18:21 Jordach (at random) then counts until then the does that again 18:21 PilzAdam MinetestBot: reaload kitten 18:21 Jordach (maybe 30 mins) 18:21 sfan5 *reload 18:21 PilzAdam MinetestBot: reload kitten 18:21 MinetestBot PilzAdam: kitten: no such module! 18:21 KikaRz !c 16/2 18:21 Jordach 8 18:22 KikaRz Thank you. 18:22 sfan5 hahahaha 18:22 Jordach ninja'd MinetestBot 18:22 KikaRz MinetestBot, I hate you... stupid Meow. 18:22 Calinou fail 18:22 Jordach i have a maths exam tomorrow :P 18:22 Calinou oh you need to use !msg apparently 18:23 sfan5 hm 18:23 sfan5 this is tricky 18:24 * Jordach gives MinetestBot some diet coke + pop rocks 18:25 MinetestBot *plop* 18:25 Jordach <- evil bastard 18:25 * john_minetest puts an decoffeined kitten on Jordach's head 18:25 Jordach caffiened* 18:25 MinetestBot *cat rocket starts and flies to moon* 18:25 MinetestBot whoooosshhh! 18:25 Calinou nope, still not 18:26 Calinou coke and centos 18:26 Jordach and thats the start of Nyan Cat 18:26 Jordach MentOs 18:26 Jordach OS* 18:26 MinetestBot KikaRz, I hate you... stupid Meow. 18:26 Jordach why isnt there one 18:26 * Jordach says hold the fuck on 18:26 Jordach RENDER TIME! 18:26 * Calinou renders to Jordach 18:26 * sfan5 holds the "fuck" 18:27 khonkhortisan VanessaE, moretrees_fir_trunk_top.jpg 0x89 0x50 18:27 KikaRz MinetestBot, shut up, and write in your diary... 18:27 KikaRz Dear diary... Today, I met one stupid cat, and I tried to be like him... Result: FAILED 18:27 KikaRz KikaRz had a fight with me... That little beautiful... 18:27 Jordach very nice. 18:28 MinetestBot KikaRz: no! >:( 18:28 Jordach ha# 18:28 Calinou KikaRz: you fight yourself? 18:28 KikaRz Yes! You were made for that! You moron! Go get some lemons! 18:28 KikaRz No Calinou , it's MinetestBot diary. 18:28 khonkhortisan umm my singleplayer world list is empty 18:28 khonkhortisan I just updated minetest 18:29 KikaRz khonkhortisan 18:29 * Calinou changed their signature 18:29 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I thought I fixed that texture? 18:29 KikaRz did you know that NEW version CORRUPTED my best world? 18:29 VanessaE huh, I guess I missed that one. 18:29 khonkhortisan For now I only lost the world list 18:30 * Calinou reads "NSFW" instead of "NEW" 18:30 * Calinou goes to make a NSFW version of More Blocks that corrupts worlds 18:30 Calinou (only if the user thinks it is the best world) 18:30 * john_minetest reads "NTFS" instead of "NSFW" 18:31 khonkhortisan you can track statistics of what world is run the most 18:31 * KikaRz reads "Fat32" as her weight-balance. :( 18:31 Jordach john_minetest, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt6iTwVIiMM 18:31 * khonkhortisan reads "NTP" instead of "NTFS" 18:31 PilzAdam New win32 build with the new sounds: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547 18:32 Calinou khonkhortisan: NTP is evil 18:32 khonkhortisan why? 18:32 Calinou so NTFS, NSFW and NEW are evil 18:32 VanessaE khonkhortisan: fixed in git. 18:32 khonkhortisan I know it skipped a second and caused a kernel panic 18:32 VanessaE PilzAdam: fix those node defs yet? :) 18:33 khonkhortisan Minetest must be telling me to stop cloning the Null Cell and play on public servers instead :P 18:37 khonkhortisan the local world list broke. Anyone know the fix? 18:37 Calinou khonkhortisan: world list is per game 18:37 khonkhortisan ah. 18:37 Calinou at bottom left of screen you can change games 18:37 Calinou PilzAdam: you should make the fact that world list is per game more obvious 18:37 khonkhortisan they're all empty 18:37 Calinou (or show worlds of all games...) 18:40 khonkhortisan My name is now Guest4050 in the multiplayer tab 18:47 khonkhortisan GL_OUT_OF_MEMORY Could not bind Texture - it's blinking between Item textures... loading bar and blackness 18:47 khonkhortisan My minetest is broken 18:47 khonkhortisan I'm barely using any swap at all! 18:47 khonkhortisan maybe it's video memory 18:48 khonkhortisan and it switched back to qwerty 18:49 thexyz this error is about video memory 18:52 khonkhortisan src/minetest/bin/minetest has created a minetest.conf in src/minetest/, instead of using the one in ~/.minetest/ 18:52 khonkhortisan RUN_IN_PLACE is still true 18:55 khonkhortisan ln -s gives me my configuration back, but my worlds are still missing 18:59 khonkhortisan that video memory error happened because preload item visuals is on by default 19:01 KikaRz khonkhortisan, this stupid new version fucked up our worlds 19:05 khonkhortisan From what I can tell, the only change is using the minetest source folder instead of the .minetest configuration folder 19:06 MinetestBot john_minetest: Sorry, I haven't seen zeg9 around. 19:06 khonkhortisan Try turning RUN_IN_PLACE off 19:07 Jordach does anyone have a copy of the stu's player model 19:07 khonkhortisan huh. Now it compiles the server before the client 19:08 khonkhortisan turning off RUN_IN_PLACE made my font really small, and made there only be minimal to pick from 19:09 khonkhortisan okay, so the solution for me was to turn of RUN_IN_PLACE and to ln -s ~/src/minetest/games ~/.minetest/games 19:10 khonkhortisan ModError: Failed to load and run /usr/local/share/minetest/builtin/builtin.lua 19:10 khonkhortisan Almost had it 19:11 khonkhortisan I'll just install then. 19:12 khonkhortisan How odd. Installing made my font bigger again 19:12 Jordach VanessaE, do you have a copy of the stu's player model 19:12 Jordach (in blend.) 19:14 khonkhortisan Now I want to know how to change the font size 19:14 khonkhortisan I see 19:15 VanessaE um 19:15 Jordach the original one on omploader is gone 19:16 VanessaE wait, I have a .blend here, might be the one you want? 19:17 PilzAdam !deop VanessaE 19:17 PilzAdam >:-) 19:17 Jordach VanessaE, git it 19:17 Jordach or somewhere 19:17 khonkhortisan !op VanessaE 19:17 VanessaE Jordach, try this: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/stu-model.zip 19:17 Jordach might be the droid im looking for 19:18 Jordach YES 19:18 Jordach YES IT IS 19:18 VanessaE \o/ 19:18 khonkhortisan !rev EassenaV ot sutats rotarepo lennahc sevig 19:18 MinetestBot gives channel operator status to VanessaE 19:19 VanessaE Jordach: there is a dropbox link on stu's first post? 19:19 Jordach VanessaE, it does not contain the source blend 19:19 VanessaE ah 19:19 PilzAdam !rev tset em\ 19:19 MinetestBot \\me test 19:19 PilzAdam awww 19:19 VanessaE feel free to spread that 19:19 khonkhortisan !rev tset me/ 19:19 MinetestBot /em test 19:19 khonkhortisan !rev tset em/ 19:19 MinetestBot /me test 19:20 PilzAdam madAzliP kcik/ 19:20 PilzAdam !rev madAzliP kcik/ 19:20 MinetestBot /kick PilzAdam 19:20 khonkhortisan !rev madAzliP kcik! 19:20 MinetestBot !kick PilzAdam 19:20 * khonkhortisan is now known as madAzliP 19:21 Jordach cmon 19:21 Jordach quit playing with MinetestBot 19:21 Jordach .....thats my job :P 19:21 Jordach VanessaE, nope. 19:21 MinetestBot Keep playing with me 19:21 PilzAdam ^ twss 19:21 khonkhortisan Small fonts give me more screen space 19:22 Tesseract PilzAdam: \x01ACTION test\x01 With real \x01 backwards. (or use b64d) 19:22 khonkhortisan I might as well separate my games from minimal 19:23 VanessaE Jordach: nope what? 19:23 Jordach VanessaE, arms and legs not doubled up 19:23 VanessaE damn, that must have been the .blend for the old char model :( 19:23 Jordach as seen in my renders 19:24 Jordach leme check my mediafire 19:24 VanessaE can't you import the .x and revise it as needed? 19:24 Jordach VanessaE, nope 19:24 Jordach .x isnt importable 19:24 VanessaE damn 19:24 Jordach *technically* its possibly 19:24 Jordach possible* 19:24 VanessaE wait, lemme look some more 19:24 Jordach but i then lose the bones and UV layout 19:25 VanessaE hah! 19:25 VanessaE found it. 19:25 Jordach hold on 19:25 Jordach VanessaE, gogogo 19:26 Jordach ssh that bastard 19:26 VanessaE re-download the zip file 19:26 VanessaE this is the contents of the folder that I got when I extracted the only zip I ever downloaded. 19:26 VanessaE if this one's wrong, then stu distributed the wrong .blend :) 19:26 VanessaE ssh hell, I use rsync over ssl :) 19:27 Jordach now this IS THE DROID IM LOOKING FOR 19:27 VanessaE is it? 19:27 * khonkhortisan moved stuff to ~/.minetest/games and ~/.minetest/textures/all 19:27 Jordach VanessaE, thats the correct model 19:27 VanessaE yay! 19:28 * Jordach gives VanessaE a kitten 19:30 Jordach i also plan on fixing the biggest mistake on the player model to date 19:30 Jordach the eyes and mouth should be shifted up one set of pixels 19:30 khonkhortisan the player is ambidextrous? 19:31 Jordach aw, im out of mints 19:31 khonkhortisan Should I put minetest_game in ~/.minetest/games/ or in src/minetest/games/ where make install won't complain? 19:34 Jordach holy shit 19:34 Jordach i forgot to install GIMP 19:34 Jordach john_minetest, ambiance mod 19:35 VanessaE Jordach: ambi...what he said 19:35 khonkhortisan ambient -> ambiance 19:35 Jordach it also has some of my tracks in it 19:35 Jordach which are beautiful 19:35 khonkhortisan install the gimp that has image tabs 19:59 Jordach hey Menche 19:59 KikaRz Jordach, she's busy. 19:59 Jordach wait what 20:00 KikaRz Jordach, she's doing a loop 20:00 KikaRz Jordach, i'm talking about Vanessa 20:00 Jordach ah 20:00 KikaRz Guys, I'm on a votation 20:00 KikaRz wait 20:00 KikaRz IDK the verb 20:00 KikaRz I'm making a vote. 20:01 KikaRz Should I launch my mod to public today? 20:02 Jordach sure 20:03 VanessaE I'm helping her write a mod. 20:05 Jordach protip: make sure i get the scale of the second model right 20:05 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/dvDBs4n.png 20:06 PilzAdam mitori, are you here? 20:09 mitori Pilzadam now 20:09 PilzAdam have you seen the latest commit in minetest_game about sounds? 20:09 mitori Jordach cool pic 20:09 mitori no 20:09 mitori not yet 20:09 Jordach the female skin is actually MinetestBot 20:10 Jordach (and more SMOOTH than sam) 20:10 MinetestBot Jordach, <3 20:10 mitori MinetestBot <- i like him 20:10 Jordach her* 20:10 MinetestBot *her 20:11 mitori NO HIM. I don't care if you are a male or female. 20:11 PilzAdam mitori, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/179f4c3f91f95ef988dfa9103432783ddd1d245e 20:11 MinetestBot mitori, >:-( 20:11 PilzAdam bots are always female 20:11 mitori okay. so what do you want for me to say/do? 20:12 Jordach the joys of windows 7 20:12 Jordach (nearly typed 8 then!) 20:12 mitori PilzAdam, they maybe in german, which has such grammar stuff 20:12 mitori they may be* 20:12 PilzAdam mitori, I want to hear what you think about that 20:12 Jordach mitori, ask thexyz even he says its a gir; 20:12 Jordach girl* 20:13 mitori but ok. sorry, minetestbot. i didn't want to offend you ar anyhting 20:13 mitori Jordach so? 20:14 PilzAdam mitori, basics of the internet: everyone is male; if someone claims to be female then hes a liar; if someone claims to be a child, hes an FBI agent 20:14 mitori THAT'S THE POINT 20:15 Jordach robots are always girls 20:15 Jordach period. 20:15 Jordach hehe period. 20:15 mitori Jordach since then? 20:15 mitori when* 20:15 Jordach MinetestBot used to be called MinetestTan 20:15 Jordach and Chan* 20:15 PilzAdam anyway, mitori, any progress on the sound variants? 20:15 mitori just a sec 20:15 mitori [00:15] MinetestBot used to be called MinetestTan THAT CHANGES THE DEAL! 20:16 PilzAdam Jordach, wtf are you talking about? MinetestTan is gone long time ago 20:16 Jordach anyways; moved the eyes up a bit: http://i.imgur.com/9B5KaaF.png 20:16 Jordach this makes it soooooooooooooooooo much better 20:17 Jordach and pavel's model can now have a actual mouth 20:17 Jordach (might need to trim the hair a tad 20:17 Jordach (best case, i'll probably redo the head and arms with my shader pow-ah!) 20:17 Jordach ) 20:17 Jordach 20:18 Jordach anyways, im fucking off for some time 20:18 Jordach laters. 20:18 mitori PilzAdam, nice, but quite meaningless 20:18 PilzAdam hm? 20:18 mitori i don't like how it sounds with trees and stones, but when it comes to dirt 20:19 mitori it just fades away when you walk 20:19 mitori and when you're standing, it's fine 20:19 mitori it's quite good 20:19 mitori dunno, overall i would say that that is good 20:19 mitori because that lift a lot of pressure from players years 20:19 mitori ears* 20:20 PilzAdam as VanessaE said: better than the plop sound 20:21 mitori yeah. still not liking stone and trees stuff. 20:21 mitori offtopic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8iRmkORbKE 20:23 mitori main_menu.ogg is the music (sound) playing in the bg in main menu? 20:23 PilzAdam yes 20:24 PilzAdam I would buy an PS 4 ASAP if they had the xbox gamepad 20:26 iqualfragile you might be able to connect the xbox gamepad to the ps4 20:26 iqualfragile which reminds me that i wanted to buy a gamepad 20:28 iqualfragile short summary of mitoris link: fuck you microsoft 20:29 iqualfragile haha, yeah, shure 399 dollars is about 250 pounds 20:30 PilzAdam and 399 dollars equals 399 euros 20:32 * KikaRz announces: 20:32 lordcirth What happened to event.pin in mesecons_luacontroller? It doesn't work anymore. 20:33 Calinou anyways; moved the eyes up a bit: http://i.imgur.com/9B5KaaF.png 20:33 KikaRz Tomorrow: A Mod made by VanessaE, KikaRz and D***D****** 20:33 Calinou Sam now has poker face :D 20:33 Calinou KikaRz: DickDickdick? 20:33 KikaRz ColoredBlocks 20:33 KikaRz no Calinou 20:33 KikaRz it's my brother. 20:33 Calinou \o/ YACBM 20:33 KikaRz I can't give the name because it's secret. 20:33 PilzAdam KikaRz, WOOOOWWW! I CANT WAIT FOR YOUR COOOOOOOOL MOOOODDDDDDDD! 20:34 Calinou ^ 20:35 KikaRz PilzAdam, sarcasm detected. 20:35 KikaRz Really... Will be cool. 20:36 KikaRz You'll be able to do this: 20:36 KikaRz http://i.imgur.com/mYNiCCc.png 20:36 KikaRz And you will be able to do... 20:36 KikaRz wait 20:36 PilzAdam HOW COOOLLLLL!! IT MAKES MY EYES BLEED! 20:37 KikaRz PilzAdam, shut the fuck up, you damn bastard. 20:38 iqualfragile awsome, brwighthht colarz!! 20:38 KikaRz Nope 20:38 KikaRz Not too bright 20:39 KikaRz That's my screen brightness that makes the blocks be like that 20:39 KikaRz and the game 20:44 KikaRz http://i.imgur.com/YIGZgyR.png 20:44 khonkhortisan your screen brightness doesn't affect screenshots 20:45 KikaRz ... 20:45 KikaRz My Screen Resolution affects brightness 20:46 VanessaE maybe she has to compensate for it via some X setting? 20:46 VanessaE in which case, I would assume a screenshot would reflect the change 20:46 PilzAdam sure, KikaRz is the usual user that edits xorg.conf 20:46 KikaRz ... Shut the hell up you mother f************ 20:46 Calinou nvidia-settings can also change X color correction :P 20:47 KikaRz Ignored. 20:47 Calinou KikaRz is probably just working with dell 20:47 KikaRz I'm tired of stupid commentaries by PilzAdam 20:47 KikaRz Nope Calinou 20:47 Calinou Dell® Minetest Monitor Calibration 20:47 Calinou :-) 20:47 KikaRz lol 20:47 Calinou do, do-do-do-do 20:47 KikaRz do-do-do = dodo do? 20:47 KikaRz dodo do whatever he does. 20:47 KikaRz XD 20:48 khonkhortisan f************ = fabulousness! 20:50 KikaRz fucker. 20:51 khonkhortisan no it isn't. Too many asterisks. 20:51 Calinou KikaRz: no, that's intel's 5-tone song 20:51 Calinou but it's not that easy to guess :P 20:53 iqualfragile it was kind of sarcastic, its just another add-lots-of-shiny-blocks mod 20:53 Calinou just like moreblocks? 8) 20:54 KikaRz No iqualfragile 20:54 KikaRz and they aren't shiny! 20:54 KikaRz damn, fuck that shiny intelligence. 20:54 lordcirth ahah, I found the change in luaC, you have to use event.pin.name instead of event.pin now. 21:08 KikaRz IDK if I'm gonna launch my mod today 21:16 imada Bonsoir 21:16 imada des français ici ? 21:16 Uberi salut 21:16 imada salut Uberi 21:19 imada Vous jouez sur quels serveurs ? 21:19 KikaRz ONLY ENGLISH! 21:19 KikaRz ONLY ENGLISH! 21:19 KikaRz ONLY ENGLISH! 21:19 VanessaE KikaRz, relax 21:19 KikaRz lawl 21:20 KikaRz I just dislike people talking languages that I didn't learn 21:20 KikaRz like FRENCH 21:20 imada ok, sorry 21:20 KikaRz Well, now that you started, you can continue 21:20 Uberi imada: singleplayer for me :) 21:21 imada Uberi: I play on a little personnal server with 2 others friends 21:21 Uberi mostly playing in creative with Mesecons and building ridiculous structures 21:21 Uberi cool, creative or survival? 21:21 Exio KikaRz: what languages do you speak? 21:22 Exio inb4 "fuck you" 21:22 KikaRz Deutsch, "2%" Italian, "100%" Spanish, "100%" Portuguese, "fluent" English, "10%" French, "99,9%" Portuguese (Brazil), "0,01%" Arabiii 21:22 KikaRz :P 21:23 KikaRz and it's "10%" Deutsch 21:23 PilzAdam Du sprichst Deustsch? oO 21:23 imada Uberi: i play in survival, but it's very calm for the moment 21:24 Exio KikaRz: hablas español? e italiano? 21:24 Uberi I speak whatever languages Google Translate supports :P 21:24 KikaRz si, si. 21:24 Uberi imada: sounds like a lot of fun 21:24 KikaRz Ja. 21:24 Exio i'm learning italian :P 21:24 Exio (and native spanish speaker) 21:25 KikaRz de donde eres? 21:25 Exio argentina 21:25 KikaRz yo soy de Valladolid en España, pero estoy en Portugal... es una mierda. 21:25 Exio ew 21:25 PilzAdam ONLY ENGLISH! 21:26 KikaRz he tenido un amigo, que se ha suicidado, en argeentina 21:26 Uberi rules are for other people! 21:52 KikaRz ... 21:52 KikaRz Not my rules. 21:52 KikaRz Channel Rules 21:52 KikaRz -.- 21:52 KikaRz Talk with the channel 21:52 KikaRz '-' 21:52 KikaRz stupid john_minetest did spam... and I'm kicked? 21:52 KikaRz '-' 21:52 VanessaE KikaRz: there really are words that long in some langages. 21:52 VanessaE languages* 21:53 VanessaE some name of a city isn't it? 21:53 KikaRz ... not in English -.- 21:53 VanessaE oh heh, getting it confused for the other one then :) 21:53 Uberi rolls right off the tongue, doesn't it? 21:53 iqualfragile yeah, but the german language has the advantage that you can stack words 21:54 iqualfragile to infinity 21:54 VanessaE Uberi: yeah, if you're ALICE COOPER> 21:54 VanessaE ":) 21:55 iqualfragile dampfschifffahrtskapitänsmützenreingiersasistentenfrauenkleiderweber is what you ment vanessae 21:55 KikaRz poor google translator 21:55 VanessaE don't you use that tone of voice with ME :) 21:55 KikaRz he has no vantages with German 21:55 PilzAdam iqualfragile, Oberweserdampfschifffartsgesellschaft* 21:56 iqualfragile oh, right 21:56 iqualfragile Oberweserdampfschifffartsgesellschaftskapitänsmützenreingiersasistentenfrauenkleiderweber 21:56 KikaRz ... 21:56 VanessaE actually there's one term in english, of medical derivation if I remember right, that's like 110 chars long or some such 21:56 KikaRz Tell us!!! 21:57 iqualfragile its allways funny looking at videos of americans on youtube who are presenting the longest german word :D 21:57 VanessaE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longest_word_in_English 21:57 VanessaE 189,819 characters, after that one, 1909 :) 21:58 KikaRz Longest word in Portuguese: Otorrinolaringologista 21:58 KikaRz That means: 21:59 KikaRz ENT 21:59 KikaRz Or: 21:59 KikaRz otorhinolaringologist 21:59 KikaRz ENT in German 21:59 PilzAdam VanessaE, titin is also named in the german wikipedia as a "long word", but not "the longest" 21:59 PilzAdam well, the IUPAC version of titin 22:00 Uberi titin would be filed under "jargon", no? 22:00 Uberi I could invent the study of titin, and that would be called titin....ology, 5 letters longer 22:01 KikaRz Let's exceed limit of nodes! 22:01 KikaRz 900 nodes (with stairs, slabs, colors, mixes...) 22:01 KikaRz :P 22:01 PilzAdam KikaRz, do this mod without the words "for", "while", "until" and "goto" 22:01 PilzAdam and "function" 22:02 iqualfragile PilzAdam: goto? 22:02 Uberi new lua has goto, apparently 22:02 KikaRz lawl 22:02 KikaRz we've done 22:02 KikaRz with that 22:02 KikaRz :P 22:02 KikaRz why? 22:03 KikaRz why? 22:03 PilzAdam KikaRz, one sentence per line, not one word 22:03 iqualfragile VanessaE: think about the way the word for tritin is constructed. now immagine you could do that with every word and you will know how the german language works 22:03 KikaRz VanessaE, '-' 22:03 Uberi KikaRz: so you can write it in a Luacontroller, of course! 22:04 KikaRz Methionylthreonylthreonylglutaminylala… 22:04 KikaRz ylglutaminylprolylleucylglutaminylsery… 22:04 KikaRz lserylthreonylalanylthreonylphenylalan… 22:04 KikaRz rylglycylphenylalanylprolylvalylprolyl… 22:04 KikaRz lanylarginylaspartylglycylglutaminylva… 22:04 KikaRz nylleucylprolylglycylvalylglutaminylis… 22:04 KikaRz eonylasparaginylglycylserylglycylgluta… 22:04 KikaRz nylglutamylleucylleucylvalyllysylalany… 22:04 KikaRz asparaginylphenylalanylvalylglutaminyl… 22:04 KikaRz ylthreonylvalylarginylglutaminylglycyl… 22:04 KikaRz utaminylvalylarginylvalylthreonylglycy… 22:04 PilzAdam KikaRz, stop it or ban 22:04 KikaRz lylvalyllysylphenylalanyltyrosylarginy… 22:04 KikaRz serylvalylasparaginylalanylthreonylasp… 22:04 KikaRz ylthreonylserylthreonylalanylglutamyll… 22:04 KikaRz tamylglutamylglutamylvalylprolylalanyl… 22:04 PilzAdam !op 22:04 KikaRz eucylvalylserylthreonylalanylglutaminy… 22:04 KikaRz glutaminylthreonylarginylisoleucylglut… 22:04 KikaRz ylhistidylphenylalanylaspartylalanylar… 22:04 KikaRz lylglutamylmethionylvalylisoleucylaspa… 22:05 VanessaE wtf? 22:05 Uberi hmm 22:05 Uberi looks like his script got out of control 22:06 PilzAdam leave the ban for a day or two 22:06 VanessaE no. 22:06 VanessaE it was a paste error 22:06 VanessaE she meant to paste a link, not the contents of it. 22:06 PilzAdam yes, he told me in PM 22:06 VanessaE she* 22:06 PilzAdam *he 22:07 KikaRz See ya tomorrow guys. 22:07 Exio her*? 22:07 Uberi it's the gender neutral "his", in this case 22:07 Uberi which I just made up a few seconds ago but is now part of the English language 22:08 Uberi o/ 22:08 KikaRz her, uberi. 22:08 Uberi thon 22:08 KikaRz i'm a girl 22:11 iqualfragile pics or it did not happen 22:12 VanessaE https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=225073880952322&set=a.173365742789803.35755.100003491346789&type=1&theater 22:12 VanessaE kikarz ^^^ 22:16 Exio k 22:17 PilzAdam VanessaE, no, you are that ^^^ 22:18 VanessaE PilzAdam: I wish I looked that good, shiiit. 22:18 Mati^1 hi 22:20 VanessaE er, nice of him to hang out long enough to get a response. 22:23 Exio hi/part 22:23 Exio oops 22:52 Architect hi 22:52 Uberi hi 22:53 * Taoki salutes the new sounds added in GIT today! 22:56 Architect anyone else on? 22:56 Uberi no, we're just figments of your imagination 22:58 PilzAdam Architect, sry, was AFK 22:58 PilzAdam Architect, I am not a moderator on the forums, I dont know why you were banned 22:59 PilzAdam Architect, what is your username? 23:06 Architect Shiftus 23:12 PilzAdam well, you are not banned 23:12 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?id=3657 23:13 Architect must have been some sort of glitch 23:33 PilzAdam bye