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01:16 VanessaE jeez!  What IS it with some people?  this guy asking people a dozen ways from Sunday to do stuff on my server but ignoring me when I tell him to post his request for interact on the forum thread.
01:24 Naked ignore him them
01:24 khonkhortisan I finally found a way to label my buttons http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=ea1fef9
01:29 VanessaE well he eventually did ask on the forums but didn't bother to *tell* me he asked.
01:29 VanessaE (I use the forum thread to help keep track of things)
01:30 VanessaE interesting trick, khonkhortisan
01:43 khonkhortisan I'd like to make a mesecon-powered chessboard, but I don't think I could create a horizontal display
01:46 khonkhortisan hmm, wall luaControllers would be possible with the 6d facedir
01:47 VanessaE mesecons can already be ran along walls now, by way of the screwdriver, and neat thing is, they actually update properly
01:47 VanessaE but there are no autorouting/autoplace rules to handle it
01:48 khonkhortisan so...
01:48 * khonkhortisan goes to try it
01:50 khonkhortisan :( the luaC won't turn
01:51 VanessaE try using the screwdriver in mode 3
01:51 ShadowNinja Facedir for luacs/micros would be nice.
01:52 VanessaE that would help.
01:52 khonkhortisan I have a switch next to mese below a rotated insulated mesecon (mode 3 then mode 1) below mese. The signal doesn't transfer vertically.
01:52 khonkhortisan Rotations are blocked with luacontrollers
01:53 Kacey i think there should be a morwires mod that adds some cool stuff to mesecons like wall wires and other machines
01:53 khonkhortisan I think we had a morewires directory
01:53 khonkhortisan oh I'm thinking of mesecons_extrawires
02:04 Naked this is how I would love to see wires in minetest: http://www.moddb.com/games/blockade-runner/videos/new-video-powerline-demonstration-march-24#imagebox
02:04 Naked a little video
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02:20 LionsDen Is there anyone here that can answer a question for me?
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02:20 sokomine hi
02:21 LionsDen Hello.
02:21 ShadowNinja Hello!
02:21 khonkhortisan hi!
02:21 thk don't ask to ask, just ask!
02:22 ShadowNinja You didn't finish your big building on my server. :-(
02:22 LionsDen I was wondering how to use the water turbine. I set it up but as soon as I connect the wires it turns red.
02:22 sokomine i'm a bit astonished about the celeron (not celeron55, but the processor). it seems to remain really nicely cold
02:22 khonkhortisan VanessaE, what do you mean by update properly?
02:22 sokomine shaddowninja: i havn't forgotten about that building. i'm just not sure how i'll finish it :-(
02:23 sokomine it is a lot bigger than the other buildings i've constructed. the last one was a very tiny house on vanessas server
02:23 * ShadowNinja isn't a very good builder.
02:23 sokomine need to get an idea how to complete it first
02:23 * khonkhortisan either
02:24 * ShadowNinja builds things as small as he can with luacs and mesecons.
02:27 sokomine i do so with houses. the smaller the more i like them :-)
02:36 LionsDen Does anyone know how to use the water turbines from technic?
02:39 sokomine er, yes. at least an old version of them. keep them sourrounded by floating water an all four sides. you can keep bottom and top for connecting them
02:40 LionsDen Ok, it's just that every time I connect the wires they turn red on me.
02:41 ShadowNinja Turn red? New feature?
02:41 LionsDen They are red and grey in color when first made,
02:42 LionsDen when in water, they turn green and grey,
02:42 LionsDen mine keep turning back to red on me when I connect the wires.
02:42 LionsDen I am assuming that means they aren't working.
02:43 sokomine perhaps you use the wrong wires? newer versions seem to have different voltages
02:43 VanessaE khonkhortisan: in simpler circuits, the wires will turn on/off properly without screwing up their facedir/rotation
02:43 VanessaE bbiab.
02:44 LionsDen Maybe they need the MV wires then.
02:44 sokomine yes, iirc they use mv wires. they at least used to be orange
02:45 sokomine which server do you build on?
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02:45 LionsDen I'm playing single player.
02:45 sokomine ah, ok
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02:49 willito alguien quiere aser una serie de minetest pero tiene que grabar el porque yo no puedo anden a i tiene que darme un sever para aser la serie anden pofa mas adelante que que diga que si le are un favor mas adelante pero que no tenga dinero incluido
02:51 ShadowNinja willito: It will be easier to help you if you use english.
02:53 willito Someone WANTS A series of minetest Asher's Gotta But BECAUSE I record I can not walk without ai sever Have To Create serial para aser more POFA walk Forward What I say That If it is for a Mas Adelante Money But Have not included
02:53 Naked he wants to know who would like to do a lets play series with him but they would have to do the recording and give him the server
02:54 willito Someone WANTS A series of minetest Asher's Gotta But BECAUSE I record I can not walk without ai sever Have To Create serial para aser more POFA walk Forward What I say That If it is for a Mas Adelante Money But Have not included
02:54 ShadowNinja willito: Don't flood.
02:57 LionsDen As soon as I connect the regular cable or the MV cable, the generators turn red.
02:58 LionsDen Plus, the cables wont connect to the bottom. Only the top.
02:59 LionsDen I'm wondering if maybe an update broke something if you were once able to connect cables to the bottom.
02:59 ShadowNinja LionsDen: Pure red? Sounds like a bug.
03:00 LionsDen Well, red and grey like they look when out of the water. I put them in the water and the become green and grey. I connect any cable and they turn red and grey again.
03:00 LionsDen The water won't flow with the cables, they block the water.
03:00 ShadowNinja LionsDen: You may want to speak with RealBadAngel about that. Screenshots would be helpfull.
03:01 LionsDen I'll see what I can do. Thanks for the help.
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04:43 ch98 Does anyone here use mac and know how to compile gcc in it?
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05:00 ShadowNinja Updating ShadowBot...
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05:35 khonkhortisan The shadows elongate at your feet. You feel taller. You've gained an experience level!
05:36 ShadowNinja khonkhortisan: ?
05:37 khonkhortisan Shadowbot.
05:37 khonkhortisan And "You feel..." from nethack
05:37 khonkhortisan and what happens when you stand looking away from the sunset
05:37 khonkhortisan and I didn't want to say Welcome to level # because then someone might argue what level they're at
05:38 khonkhortisan and this sentence ends at and
05:39 ShadowNinja I still don't understand. I am having trouble starting ShadowBot after the update.
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08:19 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
08:19 VanessaE hey
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08:32 john_minetest hi PilzAdam
08:32 * PilzAdam got 1.2 in his Abitur :D
08:32 deasanta hi - thanks pilzadam for the latest windows build :)
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08:39 john_minetest PilzAdam: Wow, cool. I didn't get it out yet but I expect 1.9 or something like this :D
09:00 PilzAdam spam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93526#p93526
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10:21 VanessaE bbl
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10:23 hello minetest.exe instantly crashes?
10:24 PilzAdam hello, can I point you to this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5073 ?
10:25 hello well..
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12:06 rubenwardy Hi all!
12:06 Calinou hi
12:07 rubenwardy and interesting news?
12:07 rubenwardy *any
12:23 rubenwardy !up 86.160.116.236
12:23 MinetestBot 86.160.116.236:30000 seems to be down
12:23 rubenwardy I am testing the flyingmachine mod on that address
12:24 rubenwardy !up 86.160.116.236
12:24 MinetestBot 86.160.116.236:30000 is up (232ms)
12:24 rubenwardy If anyone wants to join in
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12:30 rubenwardy I am testing the flying mod on 86.160.116.236:30000
12:30 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93538#p93538
12:34 rubenwardy It is amazing
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12:53 rubenwardy proller: I am testing the flying mod on 86.160.116.236:30000
12:53 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93538#p93538
12:53 proller im too busy now 8(
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13:19 KikaRz Hello!
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13:20 rubenwardy Hi
13:21 KikaRz Rubenwardy, your site is down.
13:21 rubenwardy I know
13:22 rubenwardy Site suspended due to "automatically generated website, or malious scripts and software"
13:22 rubenwardy What did you want?
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13:27 KikaRz Lol...
13:27 KikaRz Strange.
13:28 KikaRz Nothing.
13:28 KikaRz I'll have Ubuntu today :)
13:29 rubenwardy Is http://www.noip.com safe?
13:30 rubenwardy or is it http://freedns.no-ip.com/
13:31 rubenwardy What dynamic DNS should I use
13:33 KikaRz noip.com
13:33 KikaRz I always used noip.com
13:33 rubenwardy Are you sure it is not http://freedns.no-ip.com/
13:33 KikaRz Yes, I'm sure
13:34 KikaRz I never used freedns.no-ip.com
13:34 KikaRz I'm getting Ubuntu today :)
13:34 KikaRz Thanks to EasyBCD
13:34 KikaRz *w*
13:34 KikaRz Oh, and freedns-no.ip.com = noip.com
13:35 rubenwardy aparently http://www.noip.com/downloads.php?page=win is a trojan
13:36 rubenwardy https://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/http://www.noip.com/downloads.php%3fpage%3dwin?pip=false&premium=false&client_uid=3777451182&client_ver=3.6.0.187&client_type=IEPlugin&suite=true&aff_id=691&locale=en_gb&ui=1&os_ver=6.1.1.0
13:36 KikaRz what?
13:36 KikaRz never '-'
13:36 rubenwardy wierd
13:36 KikaRz This link isn't rated. Either we don't have enough information, or we haven't tested it yet. Proceed with caution.
13:36 KikaRz Website Category:
13:36 KikaRz Internet Services, Business
13:36 rubenwardy do you mean no-ip.com?
13:36 KikaRz wait
13:37 rubenwardy or noip.com
13:37 KikaRz no-ip.com redirects to noip.com
13:39 rubenwardy this makes no sense
13:39 rubenwardy I am going to use mooo.com
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13:40 KikooPwet .
13:40 KikooPwet Oh god.
13:41 KikooPwet Wait a sec.
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13:41 KikooPwet omg
13:41 Kacey today is the last day of middle school for me
13:41 KikooPwet How will my user KikaRz will be disconnected?
13:41 * Kacey is so excited
13:41 KikooPwet Kacey, don't be excited here... We remind that -10 years old are here.
13:41 KikooPwet mooooO?
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13:42 rubenwardy done: http://rubenwardy.no-ip.biz
13:42 rubenwardy I will not download that client
13:42 KikaRz yay, multa!
13:43 KikaRz it's all...
13:43 KikaRz strange.
13:43 KikaRz no themes
13:43 rubenwardy hmmm?
13:43 KikaRz It's not working
13:43 KikaRz it just says:
13:43 KikaRz Connecting localhost...
13:43 KikaRz at bottom
13:44 KikaRz and all it's strange
13:44 rubenwardy what?
13:44 KikaRz http://i.imgur.com/meVRRcN.png
13:44 KikaRz look at bottom
13:44 rubenwardy ah
13:44 rubenwardy stupid me
13:45 KikaRz and if we click hiperlinks,
13:45 KikaRz it goes to localhost/multa/<name>
13:45 rubenwardy try again
13:45 KikaRz now working
13:45 KikaRz it's normal that appears: ulta//about.php
13:45 KikaRz //
13:45 KikaRz ?
13:45 rubenwardy when you said theme you meant css
13:45 rubenwardy fixed again
13:46 KikaRz now its corrected
13:46 KikaRz When you go to blog, it goes to here: http://rubenwardy.no-ip.biz/multa/blog/
13:46 rubenwardy yeah
13:46 KikaRz And forum isn't fixed http://rubenwardy.no-ip.biz/multa/forum/
13:46 rubenwardy because there is no blog yet
13:48 rubenwardy try again
13:50 rubenwardy website down
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13:57 john_minetest !seen Zeg9
13:57 MinetestBot john_minetest: Sorry, I haven't seen zeg9 around.
13:57 PilzAdam sfan5, ^ why does MinetestBot turn everything into lower case?
14:01 john_minetest ●●●●●●●●●●
14:01 john_minetest ^My password :D
14:06 PilzAdam z4QLqgXdKY ?
14:07 VanessaE hi
14:10 john_minetest Lol: http://media-cache-ec3.pinimg.com/550x/67/00/eb/6700ebc5a8477400040ca157a5980257.jpg
14:12 john_minetest and hi VanessaE
14:13 rubenwardy do sub domains work with http://rubenwardy.no-ip.biz/
14:17 john_minetest the forum doesn't seem to work
14:17 john_minetest rubenwardy's forum
14:17 rubenwardy I know
14:17 rubenwardy I am still setting the website up
14:24 rubenwardy Working now: http://rubenwardy.no-ip.biz/
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14:32 rubenwardy my sub domain works with name.localhost but not with name.rubenwardy.no-ip.biz
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14:34 john_minetest rubenwardy, in ESME I read "UserFriendlyStuff" and thought of the UserFriendly comic. There they also have got an AI :D
14:34 PilzAdam ESME ?= MESE
14:35 rubenwardy completely different
14:45 john_minetest I don't understand how to disassemble programs properly :/
14:45 harrison if there's been a way to build it
14:45 harrison there'll be a way to destroy it
14:46 john_minetest yeah :D
14:46 harrison things are not that far out of control
14:46 john_minetest I am just trying to understand ELF and the objdump output.
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14:47 sfan5 hi
14:47 sfan5 MinetestBot!
14:47 MinetestBot sfan5!
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15:17 john_minetest rubenwardy, btw, I recovered the "the survivor" model and texture files from my old HDD.
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15:18 john_minetest hi Zeg9
15:18 john_minetest !seen Zeg9
15:18 MinetestBot john_minetest: Sorry, I haven't seen zeg9 around.
15:19 john_minetest sfan5: This is strange
15:19 sfan5 john_minetest: Zeg9 needs to say something
15:19 Zeg9 Ping?
15:19 john_minetest !seen Zeg9
15:19 MinetestBot john_minetest: zeg9 was last seen at 2013-06-06 15:20:59 UTC on #minetest
15:19 john_minetest aaaaaah.
15:20 john_minetest Then it should be "!read" :D
15:32 rubenwardy !last_post_seen
15:32 rubenwardy basically
15:33 rubenwardy not !person_last_seen_here
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15:40 thefamilygrog66 Any ideas? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93561#p93561
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15:43 john_minetest o_O A helicopter that is not based on the UFO mod but the boats mod... lol.
15:43 Zeg9 UFO is based on boats
15:43 Zeg9 which is based on carts
15:44 PilzAdam baots are _not_ based on carts
15:44 Zeg9 There is a few code from it though...
15:44 PilzAdam yea, both contain "if"
15:45 Zeg9 original "model" was the same as cart with another color ;-)
15:45 thefamilygrog66 So, any thoughts on why the mesh texture isn't showing with the daily build?
15:46 Zeg9 An UV problem...
15:46 Zeg9 Maybe related to some recent commit about multiple textures.
15:46 VanessaE PilzAdam: speaking of UVs, are you aware that the textures for your carts aren't actually being used the way you intended?
15:47 john_minetest Yeah, maybe some textures were deleted or renames
15:47 * VanessaE added support for them in HDX and discovered the issue then
15:47 Zeg9 thefamilygrog66: try to revert commit 649dca4d16
15:47 PilzAdam VanessaE, last time I checked the cart mod was working, so I better dont touch it
15:47 VanessaE oh it works fine, but your textures are not unwrapped properly.
15:47 Zeg9 Thanks ;)
15:48 VanessaE take a look at it with HDX, compare my texture to your default one and you'll see what I mean
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15:48 PilzAdam I dont really care about HDX :-p
15:48 john_minetest !649dca4d16" means "d�ÊM" in ascii
15:48 KikaRz Ok, Ubuntu Installation with EasyBCD didn't worked :(
15:48 Zeg9 john_minetest is bored.
15:48 KikaRz Trying Crunchbang 11 Waldorf.
15:49 VanessaE well your top texture (upper left corner of the file) is not used at all.  your bottom texture is used for the top side of the cart but is scaled down to just fit the bottom-inside of the block, and also size weirdly to fit the edges,
15:49 john_minetest "Waldorf"? Will it dance its name? ;)
15:49 KikaRz Yea, it's a dance.
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15:49 KikaRz Let's dance that with Harry Pottah.
15:50 PilzAdam VanessaE, I dont even remember who did the models and textures
15:50 KikaRz Kidding, Rebooting.
15:50 * Zeg9 thinks he knows
15:50 BlockMen hi
15:50 VanessaE well fix it :)
15:50 KikaRz VanessaE, will you stay for more than 5 hours?
15:50 Zeg9 I don't know if I still have the .blend...
15:50 PilzAdam well, I dont even have blender installed :-)
15:50 VanessaE KikaRz: I can't say for sure.
15:50 KikaRz I need to install Linux here.
15:50 thefamilygrog66 Zeg9: my linux box is set up to automatically download/install the daily build, but I'm also running a few standalone, earlier versions in which the helicopter looks fine. I'm just wondering if this issue will be resolved once another stable version is released.
15:51 thefamilygrog66 i.e. once I've updated the server to run the next stable git
15:51 Zeg9 Try reverting this commit. Then we'll see if it's coming from it. or I could do that myself
15:51 thefamilygrog66 Not exactly sure how to revert the commit...
15:51 Zeg9 git revert <hash>
15:52 Zeg9 In a separate branch
15:52 Zeg9 (is better)
15:52 Zeg9 I have the same problem here
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15:53 Zeg9 Ok, just tried.
15:53 Zeg9 The problem is REALLY coming from there
15:53 thefamilygrog66 Did it work?
15:54 thefamilygrog66 Cool
15:54 Zeg9 Not that cool... 0.4.7 was going to be released today iirc, and we just found a bug...
15:54 thefamilygrog66 Sorry to be a bearer of bad news!
15:56 rubenwardy !up rubenwardy.no-ip.biz
15:56 MinetestBot rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:30000 is up (187ms)
15:57 markveidemanis flyingmachine, helicopter, homedecor, nightclub, mesecons, digiline, skins, Too much?
15:57 markveidemanis I want to make minetest perform faster but idk how
15:57 john_minetest Pervect server ad: "I am trapped in a hole on <servername> and I can't get out because it has no /spawn and I got no pickaxe. Come all and help!"
15:57 rubenwardy flyingmachine is ladder
15:57 john_minetest *Perfect
15:57 rubenwardy *laggy
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15:58 Zeg9 skins causes a lot of server lag
15:58 Zeg9 [/troll]
15:58 john_minetest skins mod should be default
15:58 markveidemanis someone help me test flyingmachine and heli
15:58 Zeg9 john_minetest: a really modified version then
15:59 Zeg9 Maybe in the main menu, and sending it to a main server, like for server list.
15:59 PilzAdam markveidemanis, no
15:59 Zeg9 Thanks PilzAdam.
15:59 PilzAdam Zeg9, what to do with that bug?
15:59 PilzAdam revert the commit before releasing 0.4.7?
16:00 Zeg9 That would be the easiest
16:00 PilzAdam whats the hash?
16:00 thefamilygrog66 649dca4d16
16:02 john_minetest Or in ASCII: "d�ÊM"
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16:21 thefamilygrog66 Is anyone aware of an "instant shelter" mod? Basically, an inventory item that when placed, will automatically build a quick and basic shelter.
16:21 Zeg9 There was the forcefield mod
16:22 Zeg9 Here: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5676
16:22 thefamilygrog66 Thanks
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16:24 thefamilygrog66 I'm thinking more of incorporating some code from worldedit - specifically related to the "load" command - to spawn a permanent structure where the inventory item is placed.
16:27 BlockMen PilzAdam, any idea why that causes a crash -> http://pastie.org/private/qr3t2at2t4wtsihhnmbug ?
16:27 PilzAdam s/;/,/g
16:27 PilzAdam (not the last one)
16:29 Zeg9 thefamilygrog66: I would do this for my lava temple if I wasnt too lazy.
16:29 Zeg9 The code is in serialization.lua
16:29 * PilzAdam got an e-mail with the subject "found bug!!"
16:30 * PilzAdam ignores it silently
16:30 Calinou the person in question probably wanted to email aniwey@gmail.com
16:30 thefamilygrog66 Yeah, I saw that Zeg9 - gonna play around with it today. When it's done, I figure people can use whatever .we file they'd like (including your lava temple, for example).
16:30 BlockMen PilzAdam, still crashes...
16:30 PilzAdam new code?
16:32 BlockMen http://pastie.org/private/0okd7htov7wx1rddlbpca i tried to every combination, with ; without ; with , less attributes
16:33 BlockMen *-to + nearly
16:34 PilzAdam well, learn some basic Lua
16:34 PilzAdam tables use , as a seperator
16:34 PilzAdam not ;
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16:36 BlockMen PilzAdam, i know that tables use , in general, but i thought maybe i made a mistake so i took a look at kaeza code and gave it a try.
16:36 BlockMen here, crashed also -> http://pastie.org/private/dhqxemdu42mcljdiyasuzq
16:36 BlockMen *-d +s
16:37 BlockMen could you try out if it is reproduceable?
16:38 PilzAdam can you show me some surrounding code?
16:40 BlockMen sure, -> http://pastie.org/private/1qu2eldq8osx9pjjqxq the whole code
16:40 BlockMen i also tried with hiding the default bar before, makes no difference (and hiding default one works)
16:40 markveidemanis i think its to do with brackets
16:41 PilzAdam what about passing player to the function?
16:41 PilzAdam markveidemanis, no, the brackets are perfectly fine
16:42 PilzAdam although the indentation is slightly wrong
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16:44 BlockMen PilzAdam,when doing that it says player is nil. but that cant be the error, because i can remove the default inventory bar (and for that i use player aswell)
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16:46 PilzAdam what is the actual error code?
16:47 BlockMen PilzAdam, http://pastie.org/private/zxhlabcy6s3bcu9invqnq
16:48 PilzAdam that is with this code: http://pastie.org/private/1qu2eldq8osx9pjjqxq ?
16:49 BlockMen nearly, that is when trying to pass player to the function
16:49 BlockMen if not trying it just crashes
16:49 BlockMen no debug msg
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16:51 BlockMen i can give you the windows error msg if you want -> http://pastie.org/private/njua7ztpovletbequtqg
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16:51 PilzAdam Ill try it in a debug build
16:52 BlockMen ok, thx
16:54 PilzAdam well, seems like you need to add: text = "some inventory location"
16:55 PilzAdam s/location/list
16:56 PilzAdam btw: the assertion at inventory.cpp:604 fails
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16:57 BlockMen PilzAdam, ic. so like "text = player:get_inventory()"?
16:57 PilzAdam no, text = "main" (I guess)
16:58 BlockMen PilzAdam, thx! it works
16:59 BlockMen it should be added to lua_api.txt
16:59 PilzAdam it is there
16:59 PilzAdam thats why I know how to fix it (never used the HUD API before)
17:00 rubenwardy Is forum down?
17:00 PilzAdam nope.avi
17:00 Zeg9 I thought my connection was down since both the forum and the AUR were down at the same time...
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17:01 VanessaE Zeg9: <offtopic> in your fork of steel, can you add a variant of the corrugated steel roof that uses the signlike draw type (so I can place it on walls)?  Also see the pull request for rusted steel plating.
17:01 VanessaE </offtopic>
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17:01 BlockMen PilzAdam,https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L455 awesome. NOW i find -.-'
17:01 PilzAdam !op
17:01 Zeg9 VanessaE: rusted thing is already merged
17:02 VanessaE oh good
17:02 Zeg9 also I added compatibility to homedecor's slopes
17:02 VanessaE oh?
17:02 VanessaE guess I better pull :D
17:02 sfan5 MinetestBot!
17:02 MinetestBot sfan5!
17:02 VanessaE MinetestBot!
17:02 MinetestBot VanessaE!
17:02 sfan5 MinetestBot!
17:02 MinetestBot sfan5!
17:02 sfan5 MinetestBot!
17:02 MinetestBot sfan5!
17:02 PilzAdam damn
17:03 Zeg9 Oh nice, when servers.minetest.net is down, minetest wont start :D
17:04 VanessaE hm, forum's down for me also.
17:04 Calinou forum is up
17:04 thexyz works for me
17:04 thexyz both forum and servers.minetest.net
17:04 Calinou Zeg9: it freezes when downloading server list
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17:04 Zeg9 I guessed that
17:05 Zeg9 would it be possible to run this from a thread?
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17:06 VanessaE it finally loaded here but something still waiting to load on the one page I tried
17:06 thexyz uhh
17:06 thexyz seems packets are being lost
17:07 thexyz from USA
17:07 thexyz oh, not only USA
17:08 VanessaE maybe related to that DDoS that's been going on on freenode?
17:08 VanessaE (e.g. affecting the same network/trunk lines/etc)
17:10 thexyz oh great, hetzner compromised
17:10 VanessaE is that bad?
17:10 Calinou inb4 EFF writes a post promoting peer to peer
17:11 Calinou yes, VanessaE
17:11 Calinou basically, big data centers are getting DDoS'd
17:11 VanessaE shit
17:11 Calinou like every 3 months 8)
17:11 sfan5 wat?
17:12 thexyz http://forums.freebsd.org/showthread.php?p=222668
17:14 thexyz networks issues should be gone, btw
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17:16 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Bump version to 0.4.7 6b3e553dd5 2013-06-06T10:14:26-07:00 http://git.io/5RRqSQ
17:16 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Revert "Fix multiple texture support for animated meshnodes." (broke existing models) bfa608b85e 2013-06-06T10:13:41-07:00 http://git.io/KPQJDQ
17:18 BlockMen what am i missing this time? -> http://pastie.org/private/cpac3cklpkcwzgpsaayiiq
17:18 BlockMen why does it change number instead of item??
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17:20 * BlockMen has read this time the lua_api better -> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L456
17:22 VanessaE New build: 0.4.7 is out!  (git commit 6b3e553d[...])
17:22 Jordach finally?!
17:22 VanessaE yup, they're working on the website + windows side of it now, I beat them to the first build :D
17:24 john_minetest btw, what happened to the semi-old, green website?
17:24 Zeg9 brb
17:24 john_minetest I liked the green website more than the recent
17:25 Calinou the red one was the best one IMO
17:25 * Jordach grumbles and updates server
17:26 BlockMen john_minetest -> http://c55.me/minetest2
17:26 Calinou windows .zip is still 0.4.6
17:26 thexyz same here
17:26 thexyz Calinou: it's building right now http://buildbot.minetest.net/build/s4pfK6D39NfwsbDkGmJWe4
17:26 john_minetest Calinou: I can't remember the red one, I think the recent one looks a bit too wiki-ish.
17:26 Calinou k
17:26 Calinou thexyz: official one I mean
17:26 Calinou the one that is put in minetest.net/download on "windows"
17:27 Jordach http://c55.me/minetest3/
17:27 thexyz yes, mine builds are official ones
17:27 Calinou john_minetest: red one was communistcraft :P
17:27 Jordach my* <- thexyz
17:27 thexyz this one http://minetest.ru/prowseed-minetest-net/ is better anyway
17:27 thexyz Jordach: okay
17:27 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | STATUS: http://servers.minetest.net/ | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/
17:27 * BlockMen disagrees
17:28 Naked disagree with what?
17:28 thexyz okay, it failed
17:29 BlockMen Naked, with that "thexyz: this one http://minetest.ru/prowseed-minetest-net/ is better anyway"
17:29 Naked ooh
17:29 Jordach Naked, /nick Fury
17:29 Naked that one looks interesting
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17:31 Jordach dicks: http://i.imgur.com/1SRwG7K.png
17:31 thexyz BlockMen: better than what we have right now
17:31 * Jordach disagrees
17:31 john_minetest OMG! The prowseed-minetest looks SO AWESOME!
17:32 VanessaE prowseed?
17:32 thexyz Jordach: feel free to
17:32 BlockMen thexyz, well, i think the current needs polish...
17:32 Jordach <- zips minetest
17:32 BlockMen but no, the prowseed does not look better
17:33 * khonkhortisan starts using slave branches in git
17:34 thexyz BlockMen: okay
17:34 Jordach how do i install luajit with apt-get <- Calinou
17:35 Calinou sudo apt-get install libluajit-5.1-dev
17:35 Calinou <Jordach> <- zips minetest => do you fap to minetest? >:D
17:35 Jordach Calinou, no
17:35 Jordach as in, grabbing source
17:36 Jordach and not that source
17:36 john_minetest minetest.ru in the server list is an <invalid multibyte string> for me.
17:36 Jordach s/source/sauce
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17:39 BlockMen how the heck can "guy:hud_change(hudid, "item", guy:get_wield_index())" can cause that -> http://i.imgur.com/4tVgjwX.png ?
17:39 Jordach 502 Bad Gateway
17:39 Jordach i also need to clean my desk
17:39 Jordach ants, ants everywhere
17:39 rubenwardy I will create installer when the official .zip is made
17:39 Jordach rubenwardy, please install it to C:/Minetest-0.4.7
17:40 rubenwardy It currently goes to C:/Minetest
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17:41 Jordach E: Unable to locate package libluajit-5.1*
17:41 Jordach E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libluajit-5.1*'
17:41 Jordach Calinou, ^
17:41 Calinou hmm
17:41 Jordach and -dev does the same
17:41 Jordach im using debian 6 for my server
17:41 Calinou if you type "sudo apt-get install libluajit" then press TAB twice
17:41 Calinou oh
17:41 Calinou debian rusty
17:41 Calinou no wonder why
17:41 Calinou upgrade to 7, ???, PROFIT
17:41 Jordach Calinou, VPS
17:41 Calinou ah
17:41 Calinou well then, try to tab complete
17:41 Calinou and hope it is there
17:42 thexyz sure, apt-cache doesn't exist
17:43 Calinou apt-cache search works too
17:43 Calinou but my method is just... more straightforward :p
17:43 * Jordach runs sudo apt-get update through SSH
17:43 VanessaE jeez you guys are slow :D
17:43 sfan5 Jordach: apt-get uses regexes not simple wildcars
17:43 Jordach lol regex
17:43 sfan5 use "libluajit.+"
17:44 Jordach no quotes
17:45 Jordach sfan5, no luck
17:46 sfan5 Jordach: try just libluajit.
17:46 sfan5 with the dot
17:46 Calinou VanessaE: are slow?
17:47 VanessaE I had a build of 0.4.7 up 24 minutes ago :D
17:47 Jordach sfan5, nope nope nope.avi
17:47 sfan5 hmm
17:48 Calinou VanessaE: about 15 minutes ago or so
17:48 * sfan5 has the first server running 0.4.7
17:48 Jordach aww
17:48 Jordach mines compiling
17:49 Jordach 78%
17:49 * Jordach waits some more
17:49 Jordach dot.tk is on website nazi
17:50 Jordach so im making a minetest site for the face of jordach.tk
17:50 Jordach (so they can STFU about parking me again)
17:53 sfan5 apptitude just has the worst "problem" solving suggestions
17:53 sfan5 -p
17:57 sfan5 my minetest build for amd64, including MineMovie: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/30267315/Minetest/minetest-0.4.7-6b3e553dd5-amd64
18:00 NakedFury minemovie?
18:00 NakedFury what is that
18:01 Jordach finally, desk clear
18:01 PilzAdam in-game screencast that crashes minetest if you configure it slightly wrong
18:01 VanessaE PilzAdam: not hard to crash minetest anyway ;)
18:01 * VanessaE just crashed due the old chat-crash bug.
18:01 NakedFury so its in an alpha state
18:02 PilzAdam oh, and it doesnt output videos but pictures
18:02 sfan5 PilzAdam: thats wrong
18:03 sfan5 the thing with crashin minetest
18:03 sfan5 +g
18:03 Jordach i swear this is jojoa:
18:03 Jordach <xjojox>  what persone made what
18:04 john_minetest Jordach: Why installing to C:/Minetest? Normal is C:/Program Files (x86)/ or C:/Program Files/
18:05 Jordach john_minetest, because of perms
18:05 Jordach normal non admins cant write stuff there
18:06 john_minetest Who isn't using windows as admin? Everybody is using windows as admin.
18:06 rubenwardy see here: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5864
18:06 rubenwardy does not matter john_minetest
18:06 rubenwardy it still can not write
18:09 Calinou you would need to run it as admin
18:09 Calinou equivalent of "sudo"
18:10 rubenwardy hmmm
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18:36 VanessaE PilzAdam: how come this never made it in?  https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest_game/commit/32a552cae18067b805d47643ac619604304b16a3
18:36 PilzAdam because formspecs suck; its glitchy
18:37 VanessaE worked perfectly for me when I had it in last
18:37 VanessaE Unified Inventory uses such, and it works 100% perfect as far as anyone's able to tell
18:38 BlockMen VanessaE, the cells dont fit right for all resolutions...
18:38 PilzAdam it does not work perfectly fine, the background image is resized differently than the actual gray-ish background
18:38 VanessaE ohhh
18:38 PilzAdam just because RBA didnt want to implement background[ properly
18:39 VanessaE actually he knows about that alignment issue
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18:39 VanessaE he had plans to fix it but got sidetracked by more important stuff I guess
18:39 john_minetest hi mrtux!
18:40 BlockMen btw formspecs, is the freeze over?
18:40 ShadowNinja Preferably there should be a option for a cell image so that it always lines up.
18:41 PilzAdam VanessaE, thats RBA, he always promises anything and does only 10% of it ;-)
18:41 VanessaE I've seen the results of his work, so be nice.
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18:42 PilzAdam VanessaE, this is not meant in a negative way
18:43 VanessaE suuuuree.. :)
18:46 BlockMen bye
18:49 rubenwardy My platform game: http://rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:8080/CraftyFiddle/
18:49 rubenwardy Jordach, Calinou ^
18:50 Jordach craftyfiddle sounds wrong
18:50 rubenwardy yeah
18:50 Jordach done
18:50 Calinou should be FraftyCiddle, or CiaftyFraddle
18:51 rubenwardy or http://rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:8080/PuzzlePlatformer/
18:52 rubenwardy For some reason it is 10fps in firefox, and 60fps in chrome
18:53 Jordach i get 60fps at 1440 by 900 maximised
18:53 Calinou 60 FPS 1920×1080
18:54 Calinou chromium uses 80% of one CPU
18:54 Calinou chromium GPU renderer 77%
18:54 Calinou dat efficiency
18:54 Calinou this has better physics than big rigs
18:54 Jordach Calinou, its like playing Portal without any laws of physics
18:55 rubenwardy Crafty is the game engine
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18:56 Calinou tip: the player looks like a guy with a pizza as his head
18:56 Calinou texture him accordingly
18:56 rubenwardy lol
18:56 rubenwardy http://rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:8080/PuzzlePlatformer/?mode=2 is the canvas version
18:56 rubenwardy does not work
18:56 ShadowNinja Finally!
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18:57 VanessaE rubenwardy: all I get is a black window.
18:57 rubenwardy exactly
18:57 VanessaE (ff 21.0)
18:57 rubenwardy http://rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:8080/PuzzlePlatformer/
18:57 rubenwardy is the one that works
18:58 rubenwardy you can create your own maps: http://rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:8080/PuzzlePlatformer/assets/scripts/classes/map.js
18:58 rubenwardy see var test_map
18:58 rubenwardy It is pretty crap ATM
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19:00 john_minetest rubenwardy: What happened to bugs3
19:00 john_minetest and hi STHGOM
19:00 rubenwardy it blew up
19:00 rubenwardy that website is my computer's server
19:01 john_minetest Oh... Kabooom.
19:01 rubenwardy I got banned from bugs3 for "automatically generated website or malicious scripts"
19:02 john_minetest I bet there are auto-generated sites with malicious JS applications that install trojans on visitor's computers that are never banned...
19:03 john_minetest Like I bet that my avast antivirus won't detect a real virus. But it finds my freshly compiled programs and deletes them...
19:04 ShadowNinja LOL.
19:04 rubenwardy double lol
19:04 rubenwardy you can see the game's source here: http://rubenwardy.no-ip.biz:8080/PuzzlePlatformer/assets/
19:12 john_minetest http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20121106&amp;mode=classic
19:12 khonkhortisan It deletes your compiles - and you let it live‽
19:15 john_minetest khonkhortisan: Yeah. It says that the compiles contain a "EvoGen32" virus. And every binary Zeg9 sends me is deleted, too.
19:16 john_minetest The only thing that avast has found in its scans is at least _partly_ unnormal are a few network analysis tools and a bruteforce program.
19:17 STHGOM thats what i call a "virus scanner" :D
19:17 * sfan5 uses Linux and needs no virus scanner
19:18 Jordach i've been playing with some html and css http://i.imgur.com/A8gpivR.png
19:19 rubenwardy dreamweaver?
19:20 sfan5 rubenwardy: yes
19:22 Jordach rubenwardy, its really good for web development such as general webpages
19:22 rubenwardy yeah
19:22 Jordach sfan5, http://i.imgur.com/EERFdxw.png
19:22 rubenwardy I have used it
19:22 rubenwardy It is great
19:23 Jordach look at the links
19:23 sfan5 Jordach: the obsidian looks to dark to me
19:23 Jordach it turns to dirt!
19:23 Jordach sfan5, thats your own build's common
19:23 Jordach (common mods folder, eg. default_obsidian.png)
19:24 * sfan5 prefers plain html and css, without external tools(like dreamveaver, but not a text editor)
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19:25 Jordach sfan5, http://i.imgur.com/VVaY1il.png
19:26 Jordach has auto complete and works in wine
19:26 sfan5 haha, wtf
19:29 sfan5 one fucking empty player file caused like <I don't even know how much> <time unit> unnoticed server downtime
19:34 rubenwardy I use http://i.imgur.com/VVaY1il.png
19:34 rubenwardy sorry, http://www.jetbrains.com/phpstorm/
19:34 rubenwardy the open source license
19:36 rubenwardy bye all
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19:41 KikaRz VanessaE, are you awake_
19:41 thexyz yeah, jetbrains IDEs are great
19:41 KikaRz ?
19:42 Calinou Jordach: dat spammer catchphrase
19:42 VanessaE yeah I'm here
19:42 Calinou let's mine the test until the test mines us, let's test the mine until the mine tests us
19:43 KikaRz VanessaE, changelog of version 1.7.2 please.
19:43 KikaRz *0.4.7 please.
19:43 PilzAdam 0.4.7 is not released yet
19:43 VanessaE http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog
19:43 KikaRz PilzAdam, shut up, I didn't talked to you
19:43 VanessaE PilzAdam: unofficially it is.
19:43 Calinou <KikaRz> VanessaE, changelog of version 1.7.2 please.
19:43 Calinou <KikaRz> *0.4.7 please.
19:43 Calinou I gotta like the typo
19:43 PilzAdam unofficially 4.6 exists too :-p
19:43 Calinou O_o
19:44 KikaRz I'm tired today... Having a headache...
19:45 KikaRz Calinou, I saw 1.7.2 by the Irrlicht
19:45 Calinou ah :p
19:46 KikaRz When will 1.8.0 be stable ?
19:48 Calinou before 2017, hopefully
19:48 Calinou we don't know
19:50 john_minetest When minetest numbers the versions like version numbering is meant to be, we will get to 3.7 in approximately 20 years. :D
19:55 Jordach 3.7 for us. 19327845.45 for MC
19:58 sokomine hi everyone
19:58 NakedFury we can get there faster
19:59 NakedFury I think the new terrain gen would be enough for a bump to 0.5.0
19:59 Jordach hey sokomine
20:00 NakedFury or will we stay with +1 numbering rule no matter what?
20:02 Jordach more than likely
20:03 john_minetest Numbering too fast is no good idea.
20:05 john_minetest Look at linux: There was a jump from something near 0.5 to 0.9 when the X window system was implemented. And then it was not as easy as they thought and they had problems with version numbering because they had so many versions..
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20:20 sfan5 !c 800/50
20:20 MinetestBot 16
20:23 PilzAdam !c 4
20:23 MinetestBot 4
20:26 STHGOM !c STHGOM
20:26 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
20:26 STHGOM :D
20:28 Reenjii hi all
20:29 Reenjii I try to run a minetest server on my local computer, but I keep having "failed to emerge player" when trying to connect (same problem as yesterday)
20:29 Reenjii I built the latest 0.4.7 minetest release
20:29 sfan5 Reenjii: try deleting your player file
20:30 Reenjii server keep re-sending timed-out packets, I think there might be something wrong with packet routing
20:30 Reenjii http://pastebin.com/szgby29Y
20:30 Reenjii here are the server verbose logs
20:30 john_minetest !c infinity^0
20:30 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
20:30 john_minetest !c 4/0
20:30 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
20:30 sfan5 john_minetest: the answer to Infinity^0 is 1
20:31 Reenjii but on wireshark all seems ok (no packet loss, no icmp response)...
20:31 john_minetest sfan: I know. It seems that google doesn't understand this syntax.
20:32 Reenjii anybody have an idea ? deleting player's file doesn't help :(
20:32 sfan5 Reenjii: if the player fails to emerge, the connection goes insane for some reason
20:32 Reenjii yes, I whish I knew the reason ^^
20:33 sfan5 have you tried a different world
20:33 harrison we are building one but there is opposition from certain ... er... elements
20:34 Reenjii yes, a world created by the server, and a world created by playing solo game, same result :(
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20:39 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix bug where functions in Luacontroller EEPROM crashes the server (fixes #107). 8ea71a9036 2013-06-06T13:38:40-07:00 http://git.io/aNnetQ
20:40 Reenjii it looks like my client keeps sending connect packets to the server, but it doesn't get the server's reply
20:43 Reenjii and my client works fine with online servers
20:44 Reenjii might be something wrong with routing/firewall
20:45 Calinou or a derpy NIC
20:45 Calinou try using ethernet instead of wifi, too
20:45 kahrl sfan5: lim x^(1/x) is 1, but lim (e^x)^(1/x) is e
20:46 kahrl for x->\infty
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20:48 FreeFull kahrl: Well, (a^x)^(1/x) always ends up being a
20:48 kahrl indeed
20:49 john_minetest !c (99999^99999)^0
20:49 MinetestBot 1
20:49 PilzAdam !c 1^100^10000^100000^1000000^100000
20:49 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
20:49 PilzAdam hah!
20:49 FreeFull !c 99999^99999
20:49 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
20:49 Exio !c (9999^9999)^(1/9999)
20:49 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
20:50 Exio ew
20:50 john_minetest !c 1234+103
20:50 MinetestBot 1337
20:50 FreeFull !c (99999^9999999999999999999999)^0
20:50 MinetestBot 1
20:50 FreeFull It seems to specialcase ^0
20:50 FreeFull Either that, or do multiplication of indices first
20:50 FreeFull !c (99999^0)^9999999999999999999999
20:50 MinetestBot 1
20:51 Exio maybe it returns a "NaN" for the 23423324234^1337 and "everything"^0 => 1
20:53 john_minetest !c x^0
20:53 MinetestBot Sorry, no result.
20:53 john_minetest It is "1", no matter what x is
20:53 PilzAdam its not defined for x=0
20:54 sfan5 wikipedia says x^0=1
20:54 FreeFull You could say 0^x is 0, no matter what x is
20:54 FreeFull But that clashes with x^0
20:54 PilzAdam doesnt numberphile have a video for that?
20:54 FreeFull Probably
20:56 FreeFull There are some places where 0^0 is defined
20:56 FreeFull When doing arithmetic with types, 0^0 is 1
20:57 PilzAdam its always a matter of defintion
20:57 john_minetest !c 0^0
20:57 MinetestBot 1
20:58 john_minetest Google says that it is "1". So it's true.
20:58 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Fix class/struct forward declaration inconsistencies (good on ya, MSVC) 773471750d 2013-06-06T13:57:38-07:00 http://git.io/Wb7CLA
20:58 kahrl 0^0 = 1 is typically more useful than 0^0 = 0
20:59 Reenjii ok for those who are interested in my problem, I tried to connect to my local server through internet (targeting my box with a port redirection to my computer) and it works
21:00 Reenjii there is something strange with loopback on my computer :/
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22:08 Kacey im a freshman now!
22:09 Uberi|AoS nice
22:10 Exio AoS?
22:14 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/ymfiJcO51
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22:23 Uberi|AoS ace of spades
22:23 Uberi|AoS a very nice game indeed
22:24 Uberi|AoS woo 0.4.7
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22:59 sokomine 0.4.7 sounds good :-)))
23:00 PilzAdam fun fact: 0.4.7 has 2 tags because windows sucks
23:00 sokomine that's normal for windows :-)
23:00 sokomine thanks for producing the new version!
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23:02 PilzAdam sokomine, y u no #minetest-de ???
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23:05 sokomine oh. forgot that after computer restart
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23:06 sokomine ok. need to update my ircrc
23:08 sokomine btw, trying rollback_check vs. grep on vanessas server ended up with grep beeing far faster. of course it most likely used another core. still, i suspect that the way rollback_check works is inefficient
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23:10 sokomine hi bas
23:10 VanessaE celeron55 has said that rollback is mostly proof-of-concept rightnow
23:11 VanessaE though it does work
23:11 VanessaE hey bas080
23:11 sokomine yes. it does work quite well when actually rolling a player back
23:11 sokomine it's the checking that's intolerably slow
23:11 sokomine and checking is required quite often. not each missing block might justify a rollback/ban
23:12 sokomine furthermore, the current method of checking does stop if someone else acted there
23:13 khonkhortisan Just like changing a line in code directs the blame at you for the line previously malfunctioning
23:14 sokomine ah :-) perhaps that's why people are leaving. we ought to fix github then so that its blame function becomes more friendly :-)
23:16 sokomine my current idea is to write a mini-mod that gathers the coordinates from punching (like rollback_check does) and passes them on to grep (most likely that's faster than parsing via lua). security-wise that wouldn't be such a good idea i'm afraid :-(
23:19 khonkhortisan why? Is grep dangerous?
23:19 Exio how would you run "that"?
23:20 sokomine no. but executing it from within a lua module is not precisely what one ought to do
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