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Time Nick Message
00:00 Uberi correct, GroundRaiser, to their own mod names
00:00 codedevil Uberi: I died,  server asked me to respawn, I said no thanks by pressing Escape and now I can do anything
00:00 kaeza GroundRaiser, the others are modpacks, so it does not really matter
00:00 Uberi what
00:00 khonkhortisan Evading death is pretty common in minetest
00:00 GroundRaiser oh okay
00:00 GroundRaiser so now what
00:00 Uberi codedevil: oh I meant the water/lava tower
00:00 Uberi VanessaE_: maybe a lavacooling issue?
00:00 VanessaE_ Uberi: he created a lava fountain and a water fountain, and just kept adding more water and lava nodes around them.  The liquids hit a not-yet-generated block and spread out a ways, creating a fairly wide fountain
00:00 codedevil I placed some blocks on top od 300 block high pole
00:01 VanessaE_ I don't use default lava cooling, I use my own code, but this was an issue before lavacooling was added.
00:01 codedevil and that's how I roll
00:01 Uberi hmm
00:01 Uberi I have no idea :P
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00:01 GroundRaiser :( there are still no mods in my configure thing :/
00:01 sokomine hi
00:01 Uberi GroundRaiser: where's your minetest exe?
00:01 Uberi (as a full path)
00:02 GroundRaiser what do you mean
00:02 Uberi what's the path of minetest.exe that you're running?
00:02 GroundRaiser minetest.exe is in bin
00:02 kaeza GroundRaiser, are you using minetest_game or minimal?
00:03 GroundRaiser what do you mean
00:03 Uberi GroundRaiser: but where is bin?
00:03 GroundRaiser bin is at the top
00:03 Uberi where is the top? the folder where mods is in?
00:03 kaeza when you created a new world, did you select 'minetest' or 'minimal'?
00:04 GroundRaiser ya bin is in the main folder
00:04 Uberi a path is the string describing the folder and its parent and its parent's parent and so on
00:04 Uberi OK, try deleting minetest.conf and try again
00:04 codedevil VanessaE_: I don't think it's working
00:04 Uberi if the worldpath is wrong it might be using the wrong folder
00:04 GroundRaiser i made it a build and why do I need to delete it again?
00:04 kaeza Uberi, the 'mods_here.txt' file is in the correct place
00:04 GroundRaiser I just deleted it... and redownloaded it... I didnt move anything around
00:04 Uberi kaeza: minetest.conf has a setting for world path
00:05 Uberi GroundRaiser: oh OK
00:05 Uberi hmm
00:05 Uberi did you create a new world?
00:05 GroundRaiser I made one [build]
00:06 kaeza ah!
00:06 kaeza that is the problem
00:06 kaeza you need to put the stuff in mods/build/
00:06 GroundRaiser so do i need to put all of the mods in each of the things?
00:06 Uberi alternatively, make a world [minetest]
00:06 Uberi GroundRaiser: yes, for 0.4.6
00:07 GroundRaiser Oh okay
00:07 Uberi 0.4.7 and dev builds have a much better system
00:07 VanessaE_ codedevil: I'm trying to erase the offending towers via worldedit now.
00:07 Uberi VanessaE_: don't erase! save one as a test case!
00:07 GroundRaiser I pressed configure and it came up wth   Warning: Some mods are not configured yet
00:07 VanessaE_ Uberi: impossible.  it's lagging the server so bad I can't even begin to save it.
00:07 Uberi these poor towers are nearly extinct! adopt a tower today!
00:08 Uberi well can you describe what it looks like?
00:09 codedevil VanessaE_: my toooweeer
00:09 kaeza GroundRaiser, good
00:09 VanessaE_ it's just big lava and water fountains.
00:09 GroundRaiser good?
00:09 kaeza yes
00:09 * sokomine looks suspiciously at a tower
00:10 kaeza it measn that it has found the mods
00:10 sokomine are they larger than 1x1?
00:10 kaeza hi sokomine
00:10 GroundRaiser it looks like it is working now
00:10 Uberi woooo \o/
00:11 VanessaE_ and...the server crashed again
00:11 GroundRaiser brb
00:11 sokomine i've finally assembled my new computer (not much faster than the old one but less power consumption and more quiet and more interfaces). still a bit occupied with configuring it and getting everything transmitted
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00:11 Uberi lovely
00:11 Kacey we should add  support for lolcode modding...
00:11 Exio sokomine: what pc? :P
00:11 VanessaE_ http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2006042013%20-%2008:11:11%20PM.png
00:11 VanessaE_ Uberi:  ^^^^^
00:12 kaeza Kacey, lol, code
00:12 codedevil trolo
00:12 sokomine only a celeron but with 8gb
00:12 Exio Kacey: code them next to the ruby modding
00:12 Uberi :O
00:12 Exio sokomine: ah, nice
00:12 codedevil VanessaE_: nice font on the UI :o
00:12 kaeza codedevil, 'trolo' is a way of saying 'gay' in these parts :P
00:12 Uberi those be some crazy serifs
00:12 Exio what the fuck is that VanessaE_
00:12 sokomine trouble is, i used it to install the newest debian version from scratch. that happens so seldom that i usually tend to forget all the important configuration parameters. right now the text console is annoying me because the font is too small
00:13 Uberi VanessaE_: I think that's just a lot of flowing liquid causing the lag, not any one bug in particular
00:13 sokomine hope to get it running soon so that i can have a look how well it fares with mt :-)
00:13 Uberi sokomine: good luck!
00:13 VanessaE_ Uberi: and that is, by definition, a bug.
00:13 sokomine thanks :-)
00:13 VanessaE_ this is a shit-hot-fast machine, something simple like this should NOT cause the server to lag out
00:13 kaeza VanessaE_, that happened to me on another server
00:14 VanessaE_ fuck it, I'm disabling the placement of lava nodes.
00:14 kaeza the thing is lava flowing, water flowing, lava cooling, etc
00:14 codedevil :<
00:14 khonkhortisan What about technic's constructors?
00:14 kaeza seems like a bad interaction between those
00:15 Uberi khonkhortisan: what about them? :)
00:15 sokomine oh, there will always be something that will cause lag even if it shouldn't on such a machine
00:15 khonkhortisan they might be able to place lava
00:15 sokomine if in doubt do run a few rollback_checks (that is, if you feel your machine is too fast :-))
00:15 khonkhortisan depending on how it's disabled
00:16 GroundRaiser is there a way to make this game run quicker?
00:16 VanessaE_ khonkhortisan: not if I comment out the node defs.
00:16 codedevil question, how do you remove water source blocks actually?
00:16 khonkhortisan a bucket
00:16 Uberi codedevil: in survival? place a block in them
00:16 khonkhortisan you pour water into water, and have less water
00:17 codedevil I too the liberty of haxing the spawn :P
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00:18 codedevil lol look at spawn VanessaE_
00:18 VanessaE_ after I clean up your mess.
00:18 VanessaE_ had to reboot the server with lava and water nodes commented out (=unknown block) so I could edit them out.
00:18 sokomine groundraiser: what hardware do you have?
00:19 GroundRaiser a compaq laptop that runs windows 7
00:19 Uberi oh snap it's 8pm already?
00:20 sokomine with a laptop you can't do much i'm afraid. common suspects are accdiently activated shaders on hardware that can't handle it, too many/complex mods for the hardware, ...
00:20 * codedevil successfully trolled VanessaE_'s server
00:20 GroundRaiser oh... okay
00:21 * sokomine puts codedevil into a prison somewhere for experiments on him
00:21 VanessaE_ you fucked up my server, codedevil.
00:21 codedevil ;)
00:21 Exio "fucked up my server"
00:22 Exio ";)"
00:22 Exio a common idiot
00:23 MinerofLands lol VanessaE_
00:23 codedevil seriously this lava code needs lots of fixes :)
00:23 MinerofLands use lavamod im telling you it works haha
00:24 codedevil spawn protection code is useless too
00:24 MinerofLands lavamod isnt protection code lol
00:24 MinerofLands it just doesnt let lava to be placed over y=0
00:24 codedevil MinerofLands: there is 2nd bug, protection of zone around 0,0,0 is not really working
00:24 VanessaE_ MinerofLands: wouldn't help on my server when most of the usable land is way above sea level
00:25 MinerofLands codedevil i dont even know who you are but i like you :D
00:25 MinerofLands Vanessa it was just a suggestion you dont have to do it
00:26 MinerofLands and i said above 0 on the y axis
00:26 MinerofLands so no one can place lava above sea level
00:27 codedevil MinerofLands: neat
00:27 codedevil I'm selling 50 Unknown Blocks on VanessaE's server
00:27 MinerofLands so you lava spammed her server and she didnt revoke your interact
00:27 MinerofLands ?
00:27 MinerofLands nice going vanessa
00:27 MinerofLands LOL
00:27 codedevil I built on my land
00:28 VanessaE_ just did.
00:28 codedevil buu
00:28 GroundRaiser hey i will be on later
00:28 codedevil lame :P
00:28 khonkhortisan Where do I get default_inventory_chest.png?
00:28 codedevil VanessaE_: that is super lame, not my fault your server was buggy :)
00:29 VanessaE_ codedevil: my server is as "buggy" as any other in this instance.
00:29 codedevil yeah so that's called de-bugging
00:29 codedevil and I bet it was most fun or at least action server had this month
00:29 MinerofLands Vanessa have you fixed that "bug" with rollback? that doesnt remove server generated nodes? i.e saplings to trees?
00:29 codedevil MinerofLands: log in and look around spawn :P
00:30 VanessaE_ I disabled rollback entirely.
00:30 MinerofLands i dont wanna...me and vanessa arent "cool" with eachother lol
00:30 MinerofLands why do that?
00:30 codedevil I said log in
00:30 codedevil not make love with her
00:30 Exio not log in and be an asshole
00:30 MinerofLands ohh hi Exio
00:31 LandMineMT still i dont wanna
00:31 codedevil I think it's lame VanessaE_ disabled my edit
00:31 sokomine codedevil: unlikely. i've seen some excellent builds recently on vanessas server. those are more intresting than other action
00:31 codedevil and lava
00:31 LandMineMT with rollback disabled everyone is gonna grief
00:31 VanessaE_ it's even more lame that you griefed my server.
00:32 codedevil nigger please
00:32 codedevil you already fixed it :)
00:32 VanessaE_ I'm still trying to fix it.
00:32 codedevil well the sea of UnknownBlock looks really wrong
00:32 Exio this shows how nice you are VanessaE_
00:32 LandMineMT yup
00:32 VanessaE_ I had to un-define the water and lava nodes in default/nodes.lua just so I could edit them out and I'm still working on it.
00:32 Exio i would have already kickbanned codedevil
00:32 LandMineMT well thats not nesesary
00:32 codedevil I would give myself an award
00:32 LandMineMT just remove his interact
00:33 codedevil yeah she did, and that's lame
00:33 LandMineMT codedevil i was "proving" bugs on servers since before you even found out the game existed lol
00:33 LandMineMT i dont have an award yet
00:33 codedevil we should start a fund
00:33 codedevil VanessaE_: lol
00:34 codedevil shouldn't you just undefine the /source/ blocks?
00:34 LandMineMT no...sometimes lava_flowing glitches and doesnt go away
00:34 codedevil you have a large seas of undefined blocks now
00:35 VanessaE_ not anymore.
00:35 LandMineMT lol nice
00:35 codedevil what is?
00:35 LandMineMT codedevil you wanna know another way of getting over rollback?
00:35 VanessaE_ I already re-enabled them.
00:36 codedevil LandMineMT: yea?
00:36 LandMineMT unbuild the place and then plant a bunch of saplings
00:36 codedevil hm
00:36 LandMineMT when trees grow they cant be rolled back
00:36 codedevil ?
00:36 codedevil suggar cane too?
00:36 LandMineMT anything that is server generated
00:36 LandMineMT i.e not placed by you
00:37 Exio i already think what both are doing is enough for a quiet, at least
00:37 LandMineMT no exio i am saying it
00:37 LandMineMT so you or anyone can fix it
00:37 LandMineMT :D
00:37 Exio you report it, filing a bug and in #minetest-dev
00:37 Exio not telling it to a griefer, directly
00:38 LandMineMT well im a legend so i can do what ever i want
00:38 LandMineMT if you ever find a 0.3 server or anything before 0.4.5 you can just put a sapling under chest
00:38 LandMineMT it will grow and delete the chest :D
00:39 LandMineMT or anything block for that matter
00:39 LandMineMT cool eh codedevil :D
00:40 codedevil sounds cool :)
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00:53 STHGOM whoever has the ban priv on redcrab.suret.net port 30031 please get on QUICKLY!!!
00:54 Exio are codedevil and LM griefing?
00:55 VanessaE_ there,.
00:55 VanessaE_ there.
00:55 VanessaE_ water and lava sources removed from creative inventory, buckets mod deleted.
00:56 STHGOM destruidor
00:56 STHGOM on redcrabs 0.3.1 server
00:57 sokomine hmm. 1680er resolution over a cheap vga cable that's connected to a second cheap cable does not look particulary well...but at least it has a more workable resolution now
00:57 Exio 1920x1080 with a VGA cable; here too
00:57 Exio but because i'm being lazy on searching the other dvi-e or w/e it is called wire
00:57 Exio :D
00:58 sokomine exio: the extra added prolonging cable inbetween adds more to the decrease of sharpness :-) but that's only a temporary solution anyway
00:58 codedevil VanessaE_: neat now you could reenable me
00:58 codedevil assuming you are at all believing in own admin skills
00:58 codedevil :)
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01:00 sokomine hi bas
01:01 STHGOM no one here has ban or grant priv on redcrabs 0.3.1 sever?!?!?
01:01 VanessaE_ nope.
01:02 STHGOM D:
01:03 STHGOM where can i find redcrab?
01:06 VanessaE_ codedevil: forget it.
01:07 codedevil coward? :P
01:07 VanessaE_ no, simply not being stupid.
01:07 PilzAdam bye
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01:12 AWTom hi
01:13 STHGOM hi
01:20 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_300510009.jpg :D
01:22 sokomine oh, hm: CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindX11.cmake:420 (MESSAGE): Could not find X11     i'm pretty sure there's something akin to x running on the machine...don't think debian switched to something lese?
01:25 Exio well
01:25 Exio i need tests
01:25 Exio testers*
01:25 Exio https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/754
01:25 Exio anyone? :D
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01:26 VanessaE_ does this code allow X11 compose to work properly?
01:26 Exio no idea if it does
01:26 VanessaE_ better fix it if it doesn't.
01:27 Exio i just "now" can type a ñ now in the terminal
01:27 Exio but can't write "á"
01:27 Exio well, can't with the old console
01:27 Exio now the utf8 "behavior" seems to be the same :P
01:27 VanessaE_ X11 compose is where you hit a specially-defined key (for me, 'menu'), and then type two other chars to get the UTF one.
01:27 VanessaE_ Compose T M --> â„¢
01:28 VanessaE_ Compose O R -> ®
01:28 VanessaE_ etc.
01:28 sokomine those chars are evil in irc. don't use them!
01:28 Exio i know, but i don't knowñ didn't try
01:28 Exio damn keymap
01:28 Exio aww
01:28 Exio my map is full of "stone_flowing" nodes :(
01:28 sokomine they just cause needless trouble. ae oe ue ss are perfectly good replacements for the german umlaute. i'm sure other languages have similar replacement rules
01:29 Kacey stone_flowing?!
01:29 Exio yes, don't ask how i got them
01:29 VanessaE_ sokomine: so fix your UTF-8 support so that those chars work for you :)
01:29 Exio sokomine: can you try to write "those" in console; with and without the pull request_
01:29 Exio s/_/?/
01:30 Exio btw, i just see you can type the ñ without truetype support "now"
01:30 VanessaE_ as it stands now, the compose key is ignored, so compose t m just writes plain old "tm"
01:31 Exio well, do you have freetype enabled?
01:32 Exio just for trying
01:33 VanessaE_ hell no
01:33 VanessaE_ freetype (in minetest) is evil.
01:33 Exio i don't know, i just enabled it for testing what thexyz reported :P
01:34 Exio anyway; with the "pull" i did it worked for me without freetype
01:36 sokomine exio: i havn't tried. it is usally much safer not to use special chars. right now i'm working on getting all packages together on the new machine to compile mt. if i'm done i'll try
01:37 Exio i use the us keymap most of time
01:37 Exio it is easy-to use for casual stuff and coding; not school stuff anyway :P
01:40 Exio thanks btw, it works for me
01:40 STHGOM cya
01:40 Exio but i need people to know if it is just me or it really works ;P
01:46 Exio [22:27:00] <Exio> i just "now" can type a ñ now in the terminal < i meant console, sorry :P
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01:49 sokomine :-)
01:51 sokomine ok...at least it's finally compiling after i've collected all necessary development files on the new target system
01:52 sokomine wonder how well it will run
01:52 khonkhortisan downloaded the patch, git am, make, linking,
01:52 Exio :D
01:52 Exio khonkhortisan: try it?
01:52 khonkhortisan still linking...
01:52 khonkhortisan trying...
01:52 * Exio will bother everyone until someone can confirm it working
01:52 Exio thanks
01:52 khonkhortisan So I just have to get it to show up in the F10 menu?
01:53 Exio in the f10 screen, try to write things like ñ
01:53 khonkhortisan compose+~+n doesn't work in the chat or the console
01:53 VanessaE_ nope.
01:53 khonkhortisan it prints ~ before I finish
01:53 khonkhortisan so I end up with ~n instead of ñ
01:54 Exio that happens to me with the accent here; but i don't know how to fix it
01:54 VanessaE_ I already tried that anyway
01:54 khonkhortisan and pressing 4 (which is 3 on my layout) acts as an enter key
01:54 Exio what the patch does is "copy" the behavior of the "chat" to the console
01:54 VanessaE_ Exio: something's causing irrlicht or minetest to ignore or trap the compose key
01:54 khonkhortisan oh
01:54 khonkhortisan then chat should be improved too
01:54 Exio khonkhortisan: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/751
01:54 Exio or replaced
01:56 Exio i actuall have a ñ key in my keyboard; (";" with the us keymap)
01:58 khonkhortisan oh maybe I need freetype
01:58 Exio i don't think so
01:59 khonkhortisan http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=0f63867
02:00 Exio wtf?
02:00 khonkhortisan not related
02:05 khonkhortisan firefox+eclipse+xchat+urxvt*13+make-j3 was too much
02:05 Exio aw
02:06 VanessaE_ khonkhortisan: eek
02:07 khonkhortisan wow the font change is very noticable
02:09 Exio can anyone with irrlicht 1.7.x try that patch?
02:09 ShadowNinja VanessaE_: Drop the underscore?
02:09 kahrl Exio: about https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/755, it happens not only with formspecs
02:10 kahrl also easily reproducible with the respawn screen
02:10 Exio kahrl: really?
02:10 Exio damn :P
02:10 kahrl maybe the console should somehow be made into a menu and be registered in the main menu manager
02:11 kahrl that would take care of most of the problems
02:11 VanessaE I managed to get the console stuck open (but without being focused) just earlier.  I opened it, typed something but didn't hit enter, and then Alt-tabbed over to another window.
02:11 VanessaE had to restart the client to recover.
02:12 Exio did you try f10 and esc some times? :P
02:12 VanessaE Esc, yes.  Didn't think to hit F10
02:12 khonkhortisan escape got me out
02:13 kahrl Exio: perhaps simply put an if(console open and not focused) gui_chat_console->closeConsole(); in the main loop
02:13 khonkhortisan blinky http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=98575cc
02:14 VanessaE whoa
02:14 khonkhortisan I told it 1000ms but it didn't listen
02:14 khonkhortisan blue is freetype, green not
02:17 sokomine *complain* my mt-cache-file contains over 9000 files. that's a bit much. can't it use a database?
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02:19 VanessaE over 9000?
02:19 VanessaE (eh, forget it.  ain't funny anymore :) )
02:20 Exio kahrl: thinked about it; but as it was only for formspecs i didn't think "more" :P
02:20 kaeza s/thinked/thought/
02:20 kaeza :D
02:20 Exio that word is too hard to spell
02:21 Exio so i avoid it :D
02:21 kaeza english and it's irregular verbs
02:22 Exio ha, works!
02:25 khonkhortisan VanessaE and her only: (the rest of you already had your chance to click it :P) http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=10e0e79
02:25 VanessaE oh yeah I saw that
02:25 VanessaE wasn't sure what to make of it
02:26 khonkhortisan it's a potential solution to wieldview
02:26 Exio kahrl: https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/23df3be45caf33ba7f1ff498addeea86f28e779dhttps://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/23df3be45caf33ba7f1ff498addeea86f28e779dhttps://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/23df3be45caf33ba7f1ff498addeea86f28e779d
02:26 Exio oops
02:26 Exio https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/23df3be45caf33ba7f1ff498addeea86f28e779d
02:26 Exio i'm not using my mouse, i don't get used to this
02:27 khonkhortisan If you were near me and remotely pasted that, that would slow down my processing time to run up behind me and trick me
02:27 VanessaE khonkhortisan:  ahh
02:27 khonkhortisan Placing an image in another image scales both of them until it fits correctly
02:28 VanessaE khonkhortisan: what's the worst case result?
02:28 VanessaE if it scales both, could it potentially end up with really huge resolutions?
02:28 VanessaE or do you mean just visual scale?
02:28 khonkhortisan [map:1/1000,0,1,1:default_dirt.png would be a worst-case scenario
02:29 khonkhortisan right now it also crashes with a fraction and a 1x1 image
02:30 khonkhortisan How 'bout I just blame whovever uses the function that way for the giant images?
02:30 VanessaE heh
02:30 VanessaE no, set some reasonable limit
02:30 khonkhortisan what would it do at the limit?
02:30 khonkhortisan no image at all?
02:30 VanessaE print a warning and just resize both/all images to the limit
02:30 VanessaE or a dummy image or something is equally good
02:31 VanessaE as long as an error is printed,
02:34 Exio kahrl: is that commit "ok"?
02:36 Exio i'm going to sleep
02:37 Exio good night
02:38 kahrl Exio: looks good
02:38 Exio :P
02:38 Exio there is a pull request so other people can try it
02:39 kahrl you could make isOpen const for symmetry with isOpenInhibited
02:39 Exio i had to open a new one because i wasn't able to open the old one (closed because didn't know it would be "that easy" to fix)
02:39 Exio kk
02:41 Exio https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/cde2e1c6f716127b6a5c17de74d35b42d839fbf3
02:41 Exio kahrl: now?
02:49 khonkhortisan With freetype I see [buil d] image arrows [surv i\]
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03:16 kahrl Exio: good
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03:24 kaeza this would be a nice idea: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93380#p93380
03:24 kaeza +as a rule for Mod Releases
03:30 ShadowNinja /me disagrees
03:30 * ShadowNinja disagrees
03:30 ShadowNinja Grr.
03:32 ShadowNinja You could just link to the tarball for a commit, but I don't think it should be required.
03:32 VanessaE I wouldn't be able to do that, since I usually track git and often use new features kinda early.
03:32 Menche having trouble cross-compiling
03:32 ShadowNinja Also, I think you answered the wrong question kaeza.
03:32 Menche cmake insists that it needs "windres.exe"
03:32 khonkhortisan cross-compiling is a big hurdle
03:33 VanessaE talk to PilzAdam about that
03:33 VanessaE he crosscompiles for Windows, via linux
03:33 ShadowNinja Menche: You need mingw -- I think...
03:33 Menche i have mingw
03:33 kaeza Menche, use CMAKE_RC_COMPILER to set it to anything else
03:34 ShadowNinja I remember having a similar issue.
03:34 Menche kaeza, that variable is set to one of the mingw programs that i have, not windres.exe
03:34 khonkhortisan Hahahaha! I can now say I fixed unified_skins (3d_armor,more_armor,wieldview) to work with skins/items that have *takes a breath* images with different resolutions!
03:34 Menche it appears to be zlib that does that
03:35 kaeza wat
03:35 Menche "windres.exe" is in the CMakeLists file for zlib
03:36 kaeza well, then change it
03:36 kaeza also, why not using windres?
03:36 kaeza (out of curiosity)
03:37 Menche what does windres do?
03:37 kaeza umm... compiling resources?
03:37 Menche i have i486-mingw32-windres
03:37 kaeza ah
03:37 Menche but it wants it called windres.exe
03:38 ShadowNinja Menche: Adds icons and such AFAIK.
03:38 khonkhortisan symlink?
03:38 kaeza Menche, symlinking doesn't work?
03:38 kaeza bah
03:38 khonkhortisan :)
03:38 ShadowNinja I remember fixing it, and I think I installed a package for it.
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03:39 Menche ok, symlinked it, now it says "windres.exe: preprocessing failed."
03:39 ShadowNinja A MinGW package.
03:39 Menche "fatal error: windows.h: No such file or directory"
03:39 Menche apparently i need windows.h
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03:39 kaeza yes
03:39 kaeza you need the WinAPI package
03:40 Menche i have that, maybe i have to tell it where to look for the header file
03:40 Menche ah, found it
03:40 Menche it's not in the usual include path
03:40 Menche how to tell cmake to look in another dir for headers?
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03:43 kaeza apparently, it's CMAKE_INCLUDE_PATH
03:44 kaeza hmm nope
03:45 Menche still same error
03:47 khonkhortisan http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=765e8c6 This was not possible with ^[combine
03:47 khonkhortisan The skin is twice the resolution of the items
03:52 diemartin Menche, you could try asking in #cmaje
03:52 diemartin #cmake *
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04:56 diemartin interesting http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93383#p93383
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05:04 khonkhortisan Obvious first question: Do the rotors spin?
05:04 diemartin dunno
05:04 diemartin I'm testing now
05:04 khonkhortisan I like the blue dividers
05:05 diemartin yes they do
05:06 diemartin inb4 BF3test
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05:21 diemartin https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_314661239.jpg
05:22 * diemartin plays "Ride of the Valkyries" in the background
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05:54 diemartin bits of sand are generating out of nowhere in spawn
05:54 diemartin in the middle of the air
05:55 VanessaE that's nothing
05:55 VanessaE you know that little cage next to the spawn on my server?
05:55 diemartin yes
05:55 VanessaE the one that usually has two sheep in it
05:55 VanessaE I found it CHOCK FULL of sheep just a bit ago
05:56 VanessaE musta been 20 or 30 of them packed in there.
05:56 diemartin the thing is... this sand is no entity
05:56 diemartin they are nodes
05:56 VanessaE weird
05:57 diemartin could be some mapgen error?
05:57 diemartin https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_317135695.jpg
05:57 VanessaE weird
05:57 VanessaE tno idea at all what would do that
05:57 VanessaE -t
05:58 diemartin did you just press 't' to chat?
05:58 diemartin too much minetest? :|
05:58 ShadowNinja Looks like mapgen, show it to hmmmm.
05:59 diemartin I clear them every time I see them
05:59 diemartin yet every day, new stuff is generated
05:59 VanessaE heh
06:00 ShadowNinja Write a auto-remove mod. ;-)
06:01 ShadowNinja Night.
06:01 diemartin night
06:01 diemartin hmm
06:01 diemartin could be rollback?
06:06 VanessaE that's possible, if you're using it a lot
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06:29 VanessaE bbl, bedtime.
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09:47 diemartin still more netsplits?
09:47 diemartin hi Calinou
09:47 diemartin blah
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09:52 Calinou hi
09:52 Calinou "diemartin"?
09:53 kaeza yep
09:54 kaeza Diego Martínez
09:55 kaeza also because everyone on #-dev was pinging me instead of kahrl
09:56 Calinou name yourself `kaeza then :P
10:05 kaeza does minetestserver exit with a non-zero status code if there's an error?
10:07 kaeza hmm seems like it
10:07 Calinou it does
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10:58 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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11:24 deasanta hi pilzadam
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12:16 nyuszika7h hi, is it possible to cross-compile Minetest for i686 on amd64?
12:19 VanessaE good morning all
12:20 kaeza mornings V
12:20 kaeza nyuszika7h, should be
12:21 nyuszika7h how would I do that?
12:21 kaeza you need GCC configured as host=amd64 and target=i686
12:22 kaeza (or something like that)
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12:22 kaeza and use the CMAKE_*__CROSSCOMPILE vars
12:23 kaeza (too lazy to google that right now)
12:23 kaeza hi Aqua
12:23 Guest61290 Hi
12:23 Guest61290 Can i ask you a question
12:24 kaeza of course
12:25 Aqua____ I got the latest 0.4.6 windows build from PilzAdam but now I can't seem to jump up blocks now. Is that suppose to happen
12:25 Aqua____ ?
12:25 deasanta anyone making automated  nightly windows / linux builds of minetest master?
12:25 kaeza first time I hear of that O.o
12:26 PilzAdam deasanta, there is a ppa of ubuntu and I do cross compile to windows
12:27 Aqua____ Can you give me a link to 0.4.6?
12:27 deasanta pilzadam - do you build them yourself or have you automated the process?
12:27 PilzAdam I have a srcipt for it
12:28 PilzAdam its based on the one in util/buildbot/builbot.sh
12:28 deasanta pilzadam - even the cross compile to windows or do you do that manually?
12:28 PilzAdam yes, its automated cross compile with mingw
12:29 deasanta do you offer this as a download somewhere for ppl to download?
12:29 PilzAdam yes
12:29 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547
12:30 deasanta and does most functions work if you host with a server later than 4.6 and 4.6 clients connect
12:30 PilzAdam 4.6 doesnt exist
12:32 deasanta sorry missed an 0 = 0.4.6
12:32 PilzAdam so, you want to connect with a 0.4.6 stable client to a server that runs the current dev version?
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12:35 deasanta thank you pilzadam
12:35 deasanta yes - wondering what would happen should that happen
12:35 VanessaE nothing special really
12:35 VanessaE if the server uses 6dfacedir a lot, you'll see slabs et.al turned the wrong way
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12:35 deasanta tnx
12:35 VanessaE and maybe some minor usage glitches here and there, but nothing fatal
12:36 VanessaE I have 0.4.6-stable users on my git server and they seem to get by okay for the most part.
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12:44 VanessaE oh, PilzAdam ...  major duplication bug in simple mobs' sheep
12:45 VanessaE you know that cage near the spawn on my server that usually contains two sheep?
12:45 kaeza VanessaE, I will have to remove the homedecor signs from my server due to that too
12:45 kaeza the sign text entities duplicate like crazy
12:45 VanessaE I found it chock full last night, stuffed from floor to ceiling, side to side.  probably 20 or 30 sheep in there.
12:46 VanessaE kaeza: I don't usually see duplication problems with sign entities except when I try to edit an old sign (often the old entity doesn't disappear)
12:46 kaeza looking at the signs oat spawns brings my client down to 5FPS (from a normal 40-45)
12:46 kaeza at*
12:47 VanessaE you know, I see the same problem here
12:47 VanessaE I lose a good 15 fps near the spawn, particularly near bulldog's structures, which use a lot of signs
12:47 kaeza I think it may be too many sign texts
12:48 kaeza since they are at the exact same position, you can't tell there are more than one
12:48 VanessaE maybe that's the issue I'm seeing here then?
12:48 VanessaE is there a way to get a count of the entities in an area?
12:48 kaeza I noticed punching the sign (to force an update) fixed the problem
12:49 kaeza a simple mods could do that
12:49 kaeza -s
12:49 VanessaE right
12:50 VanessaE the get_objects_in_area() call or whatever the exact name was
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12:52 VanessaE PilzAdam: also, tamed sheep are still disappearing, and when you tame one, you should lose one wheat per click
12:53 ShiftyCake1 @kaeza, VanessaE and PilzAdam: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZIOGhu_vJ0
12:53 kaeza VanessaE, http://pastebin.com/SMRgbHvJ
12:58 Kacey doesnt stay long enough to get his question answered?
12:58 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/132
12:59 VanessaE looks related to that, anyway
13:00 kaeza maybe
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13:01 kaeza BTW, that bug is still valid
13:01 kaeza bleh
13:01 kaeza wrong chan
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13:26 KikooPwet sfan5: Can you help me to build Minetest on windows?
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13:29 KikaRz Hello there.
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13:40 PilzAdam VanessaE, are you sure you  have the latest version of Simple Mobs?
13:40 PilzAdam ShiftyCake1, seems like a mod modifies the gravity or jumping height
13:41 VanessaE PilzAdam: yep
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13:41 PilzAdam all the bugs you listed were fixed recently
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13:44 VanessaE I discovered the pen full of sheep just last night, well after the last update/reboot
13:44 VanessaE ditto for the sheep that keep disappearing
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13:44 VanessaE mind you, the penned sheep I'm talking about were generated via spawnentity
13:44 VanessaE (to replace ones that got last the first time the disappearing bug hit)
13:44 VanessaE ok, just spawned and tamed five sheep in the larger pen (the barbed wire behind bulldog's cafe)
13:44 VanessaE let's see how long they last :)
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13:45 VanessaE holy shit, one of them managed to jump out of a fence that is THREE nodes high!
13:45 * VanessaE makes it FOUR high.
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13:46 KikaRz Who knows compiling Minetest in Windows?
13:47 PilzAdam "on" or "for" windows?
13:47 KikaRz on
13:47 VanessaE PilzAdam: also, their collision boxes are too small, they keep getting stuck in homedecor corner fences
13:47 KikaRz I'm on Windows actually
13:47 PilzAdam VanessaE, the sheep needs to be fed _after_ the last update to simple mobs
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13:47 PilzAdam and if wheat doesnt disappear, then something went wrong
13:47 VanessaE I'm at git HEAD right now with mobs
13:48 PilzAdam ChanServ!
13:48 KikaRz ...
13:48 KikaRz PilzAdam, you know how?
13:48 VanessaE wheat doesn't decrement.  Are you checking for the presence of infinite stacks?
13:48 PilzAdam I know how to compile for windows from Linux
13:49 PilzAdam VanessaE, are you in creative mode?
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13:49 VanessaE I am, but Unified Inventory doesn't have infinite stacks.
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13:49 VanessaE (this is by design)
13:49 PilzAdam well, in creative mode there is no item taken from the stack
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13:50 VanessaE ok, all seven of the sheep normally found in the two pends have been replaced and tamed.
13:50 PilzAdam init.lua line 209 & 215
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13:50 KikaRz Ok, nobody tells me how to.
13:50 PilzAdam KikaRz, there are several forum topics
13:50 PilzAdam also tons of unofficial builds
13:50 KikaRz Really? I can't find any of them
13:50 KikaRz And I prefer to build my own builds
13:51 KikaRz Reason: Unofficial are editted.
13:51 KikaRz *edited
13:51 PilzAdam well, 5th topic in General Discussion
13:51 KikaRz Link please.
13:51 PilzAdam are you fucking kidding me?
13:52 KikaRz No.
13:52 KikaRz My browser isn't opening.
13:52 PilzAdam I am not google
13:52 KikaRz *openning
13:53 VanessaE opening*.
13:53 KikaRz ...
13:54 KikaRz Why it appears like this: HERE  *Libvorbisfile
13:54 KikaRz DLL=[url]http://www.dll-files.com/dllindex/dll-files.shtml?libvorbisfile[/url]
13:54 KikaRz INCLUDE=libvorbis/include
13:54 KikaRz with [url] at back?
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13:55 KikaRz Another question: What I should use? MinGW or Visual Studio?
14:02 VanessaE you should use linux :P
14:02 VanessaE fuck windows anyway :)
14:02 john_minetest KikaRz: Do you use XP?
14:02 PilzAdam Visual Studio has better results AFAIK
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14:02 KikaRz 7.
14:02 KikaRz I know fuck windows.
14:02 KikaRz But I preferred Linux... Just don't have cds/dvds
14:03 KikaRz Pilz, I want something simple and good
14:03 john_minetest The new VS hasn't support for XP. Anyway mingw or msys or similar are better.
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14:04 PilzAdam "Visual Studio 2010 currently makes best results." <- from dev wiki
14:04 harrison_ http://youtu.be/PbVsXlii9OQ
14:04 KikaRz Cool.
14:07 harrison_ thx
14:07 harrison_ #spasim
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14:08 KikaRz lol
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14:22 KikaRz Is the API different?
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14:24 KikaRz VanessaE?
14:24 VanessaE hm?
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14:26 VanessaE PilzAdam: as predicted, some of those sheep have disappeared.
14:27 KikaRz VanessaE: Look Query
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14:28 VanessaE bbl
14:30 VanessaE PilzAdam: and now there are four sheep in the pen that's supposed to have only two
14:30 VanessaE the floor therein is iron stone brick, so it's not like they're just spawning there.
14:30 KikaRz bye
14:30 KikaRz :(
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14:37 VanessaE bbl
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14:53 KikaRz Mega NETSPLIT
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15:02 sfan5 wheres MinetestBot?
15:03 KikaRz DEAD! :D
15:03 KikaRz Thank god :)
15:03 ShadowNinja Wait.
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15:03 PilzAdam MinetestBot!
15:03 MinetestBot PilzAdam!
15:03 ShadowNinja :-(
15:03 KikaRz Oh god... -.-
15:04 KikaRz !up vanessae.mine.bz
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15:04 ShadowNinja I wanted to test auto-sleep.
15:04 KikaRz I want to have access to that feature -.-
15:04 sfan5 !unignore KikaRz
15:04 MinetestBot sfan5: 'KikaRz' removed from ignore list.
15:04 KikaRz !up vanessae.mine.bz
15:04 MinetestBot vanessae.mine.bz:30000 is up (416ms)
15:04 KikaRz Thank you.
15:04 sfan5 !tw freenodestaff
15:04 MinetestBot @iwebsource Could you send this along with more details to support@freenode.net please? (@freenodestaff)
15:06 KikaRz sfan5, there is any Minetest Mod Tutorial?
15:06 sfan5 !g minetest mod tutorial
15:06 MinetestBot sfan5: https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-modding-tutorial
15:06 sfan5 ^ KikaRz
15:06 KikaRz thank you.
15:07 KikaRz Really? ENGLISH  raw text) mtmoddeven.txt webpage) html/englishEN.html
15:07 KikaRz Oh, I saw how i get into there.
15:08 PilzAdam KikaRz, there is one in the dev wiki
15:08 PilzAdam its based on Jeija's AFAIK
15:08 KikaRz Link for Dev Wiki please.
15:08 KikaRz it's dev.minetest.net ?
15:08 sfan5 !g minetest mod tutorial site:dev.minetest.net
15:08 MinetestBot sfan5: http://dev.minetest.net/Intro
15:08 KikaRz Ok, thanks. You people know how to get a free vps?
15:09 sfan5 !g google
15:09 PilzAdam sfan5, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93425#p93425
15:09 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.google.com/
15:09 sfan5 ^ KikaRz
15:09 KikaRz No results found.
15:09 sfan5 PilzAdam: banned
15:10 KikaRz Me is now: sad.
15:11 KikaRz What's the size for the nodes? 32x32? 64x64?
15:11 PilzAdam KikaRz, seriously, learn how to use the internet; "link pls" is simply annoying, and its selfish to expect other people to give you links
15:12 KikaRz Pilz, my browser don't opens any new tabs... Has some errors.
15:12 KikaRz (Firefox.)
15:12 PilzAdam its not our fault
15:12 KikaRz So? Not mine either,.
15:12 PilzAdam why dont you fix your browser then?
15:13 KikaRz I can't -.-
15:13 PilzAdam then its your fault
15:13 KikaRz No it's not.
15:13 PilzAdam firefox works for everyone else
15:13 KikaRz You are running Linux.
15:13 KikaRz I'm running Windows.
15:13 KikaRz My Windows is 50% Corrupted.
15:13 PilzAdam Linux is free, if you dont use it then its your, and only your problem
15:13 KikaRz I wanted to run Linux, but I can't because I don't have any DVD. Linux is free, but DVD's aren't.
15:14 PilzAdam stop whining and start fixing your PC; and stop annoying other people with your problems
15:14 KikaRz Well... I have 10 €, i'll try to buy DVDs to record there Linux.
15:14 PilzAdam sorry, that I have to say it like this
15:14 KikaRz PilzAdam, That doesn't affect me.
15:15 PilzAdam you can install Linux without any DVDs or CDs
15:15 KikaRz No I can't.
15:15 PilzAdam !g wubi
15:15 MinetestBot PilzAdam: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer
15:15 KikaRz If I were possible to, how I was going to do that???
15:15 KikaRz That's CORRUPTED
15:16 KikaRz I've tried 19,5 times.
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15:26 KikaRz bbl, see ya. (PilzAdam: I'm installing Xubuntu with WUBI, if it don't works, you are fucked up '-' )
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15:54 sfan5 damnit
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15:55 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I connected MinetestBot to one of the fast freenode servers (adams.freenode.net)
15:55 sfan5 !op ShadowBot
15:55 sfan5 !op
15:55 sfan5 just in case..
15:55 ShadowNinja sfan5: How do you know that one if fast?
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15:56 sfan5 ShadowNinja: I used this server during the last ddos, my bouncer works stable with adams.freenode.net
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15:57 markveidemanis And another netsplit...
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15:58 sfan5 !tw freenodestaff
15:59 MinetestBot @iwebsource Could you send this along with more details to support@freenode.net please? (@freenodestaff)
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16:12 markveidemanis Hi KikaRz
16:12 markveidemanis Wanna join my server again? I can serve you in the bar to test it
16:12 markveidemanis Also i need a way people can see the menu
16:13 Calinou loool
16:13 Calinou markveidemanis is now trying to get a gf :3
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16:14 markveidemanis ???
16:14 markveidemanis gf?
16:14 markveidemanis I thought he was male -.-
16:14 markveidemanis lol
16:15 markveidemanis Wait a sec, Calinou
16:15 markveidemanis According to you, nobody can talk to anyone...Either flirting or being homo
16:16 Calinou :P
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16:18 khonkhortisan MinetestBot!
16:18 MinetestBot khonkhortisan!
16:19 khonkhortisan Hi.
16:19 Calinou ~obit MinetestBot
16:19 khonkhortisan How are you, MinetestBot?
16:19 Calinou he doesn't even react to obits
16:20 markveidemanis MINETESTBOT!
16:20 markveidemanis MinetestBot
16:20 markveidemanis MinetestBot!
16:20 MinetestBot markveidemanis!
16:20 markveidemanis Hmm...
16:20 markveidemanis seems weird
16:21 markveidemanis Hi minetestbot
16:21 khonkhortisan ¡MinetestBot!
16:21 markveidemanis khonk...
16:21 markveidemanis Can you test a heli?
16:21 khonkhortisan you no likeh de spanish
16:22 khonkhortisan yeah
16:22 markveidemanis i gtg
16:30 sokomine does anyone remember where the resolution of the linux console was set? i.e. 80x25 instead of too_muchxtoo_much ? it used to be vga=bla iirc...
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17:09 john_minetest Yay! NickServ is back!
17:10 salamanderrake what that dead beat finally showed up for work.
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17:21 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks
17:24 sfan5 what the fuck, youtube doesn't load in chrome and randomly ends the video in firefox
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17:30 hmmmm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8iepdIooU0
17:30 thefamilygrog66 I was on a server recently that had sandstone bricks randomly generated throughout sandy areas - is that something that can be toggled in minetest.conf?
17:31 hmmmm should probably ask the server owner what mods he has running
17:31 thefamilygrog66 so it's not a default biome, or whatever?
17:32 hmmmm clearly not
17:32 thefamilygrog66 not so clearly
17:32 hmmmm nothing has changed in the default mapgen since 0.4.3
17:32 thefamilygrog66 jungles, dungeons
17:32 hmmmm those weren't changes though
17:32 hmmmm and they're optional features
17:32 thefamilygrog66 they weren't in 0.4.3, were they?
17:32 thefamilygrog66 that's what I'm talking about though
17:33 thefamilygrog66 "optional features" that can be turned on/off in the conf file
17:33 hmmmm there is absolutely no sandstone generated in a world without a mod
17:34 thefamilygrog66 thanks for the info
17:34 thefamilygrog66 sandstone bricks, btw
17:36 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Merge pull request #106 from Novatux/heat 9a9df6cabf 2013-06-05T10:35:36-07:00 http://git.io/joWEsQ
17:36 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Add an ABM function which resets heat to 0, since gates/controllers won't be cooled normally if they are moved (piston, etc...) during the cooling delay. edc10dac47 2013-06-04T21:45:19-07:00 http://git.io/w-5QyA
17:37 thefamilygrog66 what the hell is that video, hmmmm?!
17:37 hmmmm everyday life in russia
17:37 thefamilygrog66 oooookay
17:38 thefamilygrog66 sounds pleasant
17:38 PilzAdam USA everyday life: people get shot by 5 year olds :-p
17:39 thefamilygrog66 I watched a few seconds of a nearly naked. bloody man in a window - not really interested in seeing how it ends...
17:39 hmmmm i don't think that's blood, just sayin
17:40 hmmmm oh
17:40 hmmmm were you offended by that video?
17:40 hmmmm 'cause i didn't mean to offend you or whatever
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17:41 hmmmm maybe i shouldn't cross-post things i find interesting or funny in this channel
17:41 hmmmm i forget that people don't really have much of a tolerance
17:41 thefamilygrog66 what was happening in it, exactly?
17:41 PilzAdam you think thats funny?
17:41 hmmmm he's acting retarded, he doesn't die if that's what you're thinking
17:41 hmmmm he wanted to make a scene in front of everybody
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17:42 thefamilygrog66 good times
17:43 thefamilygrog66 PilzAdam: have you heard of a mod that adds sandstone bricks randomly to sandy areas when generated?
17:43 PilzAdam no
17:44 thefamilygrog66 thanks
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17:46 BlockMen hi everyone
17:47 thefamilygrog66 hey BlockMen
17:47 NakedFury hi
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17:50 ShadowNinja BlockMen: I think that on the site texturepacks should be renamed to texture_packs and the pieco of code that adds a space for the title should be removed.
17:51 ShadowNinja Then the _ -> <space> code would do it.
17:51 BlockMen ShadowNinja, agree. But celeron has to merge my pull first and he said he will do somewhen (because its not important)
17:54 BlockMen *so if you notice he did you can change it or notice me that i can change then ;)
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18:26 KikaRz PilzAdam.
18:26 KikaRz Results of Wubi: Try hd(0,0): NTFS5: No wubildr
18:27 PilzAdam -> #ubuntu
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18:41 KikaRz Olah
18:42 KikaRz Well... I have a problem...
18:42 KikaRz I can run Linux Crunchbang 10 because I have it DVD, and I can compile Minetest, and etcetera...
18:42 KikaRz But... I can't run Steam and its games.
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18:48 PilzAdam KikaRz, wrong channel
18:50 PilzAdam you can get proper support how to use steam in a support channel for your distro
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19:05 KikaRz PilzAdam ...
19:06 Calinou PilzAdam period period period
19:06 khonkhortisan PilzAdam ellipsis
19:06 khonkhortisan PilzAdam …
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19:06 KikaRz I hate PilzAdam so much...  As his code.
19:07 khonkhortisan Hate my code for a change https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/759
19:09 Calinou KikaRz: code something better then
19:10 KikaRz What? Calinou, I can't hear you!
19:10 Calinou can't hear me? see me then
19:10 KikaRz How I can see you? Your webcam isn't connected!
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19:12 KikaRz Where is bgsmithjr?
19:12 KikaRz This is a bit unclear... http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1434
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19:15 MinetestBot GIT: EXio4 commited to minetest/minetest: Close console when it loses focus but it is still on screen 7cb5217255 2013-06-05T12:14:14-07:00 http://git.io/ZoaThw
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19:32 KikaRz Guys, someone update this: http://dev.minetest.net/Intro
19:32 KikaRz at Mod Folder Structure
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19:32 KikaRz it's not mods\minetest anymore
19:32 KikaRz just mods
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19:35 PilzAdam done
19:35 KikaRz Thank you.
19:36 KikaRz Does VanessaE's server got Technic actually?
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19:36 KikaRz And PilzAdam, make rats able to be tamed *w*
19:38 khonkhortisan it has technic, but no frames anymore
19:40 MinetestBot GIT: Novatux commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Change mesecons signals so that they update effectors only after a globalstep, configurable to be on/off afad592783 2013-06-05T12:37:55-07:00 http://git.io/LXdtbA
19:43 KikaRz no frames?
19:43 KikaRz How ?
19:43 KikaRz And why, VanessaE, you took out the water !?!?
19:43 KikaRz :@
19:46 svuorela how far aways is the bottom ?
19:48 khonkhortisan I thought only the lava was gone
19:51 john_cephalopoda !seen Zeg9
19:51 MinetestBot john_cephalopoda: Sorry, I haven't seen zeg9 around.
19:51 sfan5 svuorela: you mean of the minetest world?
19:51 svuorela sfan5: yes
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19:51 sfan5 svuorela: y axis 30 000 until -30 000
19:52 svuorela sfan5: oh. then I maybe should abandon my attempt to reach the bottom :P
19:52 sfan5 yep
19:52 ShadowNinja svuorela: It has been done...
19:53 svuorela and I'm only at -270ish
19:53 svuorela and getting impatient
19:53 john_minetest With fast priv it should be possible to reach the horizontal limits.
19:54 Calinou without too
19:54 Calinou but it takes 5× more time ;)
19:54 Calinou (you can change default speeds by the way)
19:54 Calinou you can go between 0 and 31000 in 10 seconds if you wanted, without fast, but with fly and noclip of course
19:55 khonkhortisan *swaps fast and default speeds* Give me fast, so I can go normal speed!
19:56 KikaRz !seen Telek
19:56 KikaRz Still Ignored.
19:56 khonkhortisan !seen Telek
19:56 MinetestBot khonkhortisan: Sorry, I haven't seen telek around.
19:56 KikaRz sfan5, i'm still ignored.
19:56 * VanessaE peeks in
19:56 sfan5 !unignore KikaRz
19:56 MinetestBot sfan5: 'KikaRz' removed from ignore list.
19:56 KikaRz VanessaE, put the water on your server :(
19:57 sfan5 KikaRz: the bot restarted
19:57 sfan5 hi Vann
19:57 sfan5 damnit
19:57 KikaRz sfan5, every time that I enter or the bot restarts, I get ignored.
19:57 sfan5 ta-fail
19:57 sfan5 *tab
19:57 sfan5 hi VanessaE
19:57 Calinou khonkhortisan: actually you can do that :p
19:57 VanessaE KikaRz: I disabled water and lava from the creative inventory because of griefing that was so bad it ground my server to a complete halt.
19:57 Calinou you can also change normal or fast speeds to 0 :P
19:57 khonkhortisan ik
19:57 Calinou never tried negative though
19:57 KikaRz VanessaE, I needed water :(
19:58 john_minetest Calinou: "/teleport 30000 0 0"
19:59 svuorela oh. and mese or diamond pickaxe - what's best?
20:00 KikaRz VanessaE, can't you or RBA make a permission to use liquids?
20:00 VanessaE beats me.
20:00 KikaRz beats what?
20:00 KikaRz or who?
20:00 VanessaE if someone can come up with such a mod I'd gladly install it
20:01 VanessaE "beats me" = a stronger version of "I don't know"
20:01 KikaRz Well... I'll don't be able to do that.
20:01 Calinou you could /give KikaRz some water buckets, VanessaE
20:01 KikaRz Well... Not that the problem
20:01 VanessaE Calinou: buckets mod is disabled too, as are water/lava cans in technic.
20:01 KikaRz It's that I want water, when she's away.
20:01 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix README a little and add piston sounds by suzenako, contributed by jordan4ibanez. 367a41416b 2013-06-05T13:01:11-07:00 http://git.io/LTGgcw
20:01 VanessaE about the only way you can move water now is via pipeworks.
20:02 Calinou VanessaE: sources then
20:04 VanessaE I could do that I suppose
20:04 VanessaE what's really needed is a way to whitelist who can and who cannot have water and/or lava buckets/sources/cans
20:04 VanessaE KikaRz: sign on and I'll throw you some water sources.
20:04 KikaRz I don't want now.
20:05 KikaRz I have a work from college to do
20:05 VanessaE bah
20:05 VanessaE two seconds.
20:05 khonkhortisan edit the inventory file
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20:06 KikaRz VanessaE, i got my inventory almost filled up
20:06 VanessaE so move something into the crafting grid
20:07 VanessaE (I sometimes use that to give me an extra 9 slots when I really can't get rid of anything I have)
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20:12 john_minetest Yeah, the "crafting grid inventory" is so cool. Also a plus of it: If I have got thousands of leafes and I want to get rid of them but I have got a few mese blocks that I don't want to throw away, i put the mese blocks into the grid and do "/pulverize_all".
20:13 sfan5 theres a "/pulverize_all" command?
20:13 VanessaE I usually do something similar when I use Unified Inventory's "clear all" button
20:13 john_minetest sfan5: Idk if it is standard but it is on zegaton
20:13 PilzAdam sfan5, no
20:13 sfan5 john_minetest: ^
20:15 john_minetest I srsly need a faster linux PC. My old one is too slow for doing compiling and my fast computer is using windows.
20:15 Exio install windows in the "faster one" :P
20:16 john_minetest I only keep windows because there are some games I like. And I won't spoil my linux system with wine.
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20:26 sfan5 good night
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20:52 svuorela so. assuming that one falls and dies, can one go back to the dying spot and pick up lost items?
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20:52 VanessaE if you have the bones mod, yeah
20:52 VanessaE without that mod, dieing doesn't make you lose your items anyway
20:53 PilzAdam or creative mode
20:53 svuorela the ones I was carrying while dieing
20:55 svuorela I did lose everything I was carrying
20:56 PilzAdam svuorela, what version of minetest do you use? what game? what mods?
20:57 svuorela PilzAdam: stable. 0.4.6. only mod is a finding home mod. game is survival
20:58 PilzAdam go back to the locatio  where you died, there will be a bones node wich contains the items
20:58 PilzAdam *location
20:58 svuorela I am slowly heading there
20:59 VanessaE I'm considering granting interact by default on my server now.  Any objections?
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21:00 PilzAdam <LM> VanessaE, sure, go ahead
21:00 Exio codedevil you mean
21:00 VanessaE non-retroactive. :)
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21:01 svuorela PilzAdam: yay. found it
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21:54 testman42 How do I contact admin of minetest server uplink.io ?
21:54 PilzAdam go to the forum
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21:57 testman42 I can't seem to find contact info on forum
21:58 PilzAdam do you know the server topic?
22:01 testman42 no
22:02 testman42 i searched forum by keyword for "uplink", results were just something about DDoSing minetest servers
22:03 john_minetest DDoSing with a fridge? ;)
22:04 john_minetest Btw, GNU released "cincj", "cincj is no carot juice". It is not as good as propietary carot juice but it is free/libre.
22:05 PilzAdam -> #fridgeDDoS
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22:09 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/yvkDpFF51
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22:12 Kacey i hate that guy...
22:12 Kacey http://ifunny.mobi/f/UyGpW9L51
22:13 john_minetest Hey, the mobile version works better than the normal one. Maybe because I'm blocking half the site with various JS, XSS and adblockers.
22:13 john_minetest Mobile! http://m.ifunny.mobi/f/yvkDpFF51
22:13 john_minetest gtg, it's late
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22:35 Reenjii hello
22:35 Uberi hi Reenjii
22:35 Reenjii I try to set up a local minetest server but I'm struggling with a "failed to emerge player" error from server
22:36 Uberi uh oh
22:37 Reenjii i found several explanations on the web
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22:37 Uberi Reenjii: OS?
22:37 Reenjii localhost routing problem, ipv6 not handled by minetest
22:37 Reenjii bui'm on Archlinux and I compiled minetest 0.4.6
22:37 Uberi latest from git?
22:38 Reenjii yep
22:38 Reenjii on wireshark I can see UPD exchanges between client and server
22:38 Uberi hmm, isn't there an ipv6 patch for mt floating out there somewhere?
22:39 Reenjii maybe but i'm still on ipv4
22:39 Reenjii :)
22:39 Uberi ah
22:39 Reenjii localhost maps correctly to 127.0.0.1 not ::1
22:39 Uberi well are you using the advanced tab?
22:39 Uberi or the singleplayer tab?
22:40 Reenjii i have the issue using both multiplayer and advanced tabs
22:40 Reenjii when I enter a password (and there is non in auth.txt) I can see "Invalid password" packets in wireshark (and there is no emerge messages)
22:41 Reenjii si I guess client and server can speak to each other :)
22:41 Reenjii btw my client works well in singleplayer mode
22:42 PilzAdam bye
22:42 Exio bye PilzAdam
22:42 Reenjii and I tried to launch the server using a world created in singleplayer mode and also with an empty world (thus created by the server itself)
22:42 Kacey i get that error alot but minetest works fine anyway
22:43 Reenjii the connection times out for me after ~10-15 seconds
22:44 Reenjii maybe i should try to connect from another computer but I have only one for the moment
22:54 Reenjii I can also connect on an online minetest server, so the issue is clearly on the server's side
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