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00:17 * Kacey mumbles angrily
00:23 * Kacey wishes the idiots of his class would admit to the fact that he is smarter than them.
00:32 PilzAdam bye
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01:36 khonkhortisan Create a contest, and then make sure you win
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01:46 kaeza time for bed
01:46 kaeza night all
01:47 VanessaE night
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02:27 VanessaE bbl
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03:25 * VanessaE is back for a bit
03:26 NakedFury hey
03:26 VanessaE hi
03:26 NakedFury the -dev channel is getting lots of chatter this days
03:26 NakedFury really great
03:27 VanessaE yes, lots of useful stuff lately
03:27 VanessaE 0.4.7 is on the horizon and approaching fast.
03:27 NakedFury yeah
03:27 NakedFury ever since karl came back minetest has gotten lots of source code activity
03:28 NakedFury RBA, sapier, karl, etc
03:28 NakedFury this is great
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04:03 khonkhortisan Where is it written how ^[combine works?
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04:26 kahrl khonkhortisan: http://dev.minetest.net/texture
04:33 khonkhortisan ok, so the image manipulation takes the resolution as arguments. But there's no reverse; to get the resolution of an image.
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04:37 kahrl you can grab the ITexture and call getSize()
04:37 khonkhortisan from lua?
04:37 kahrl of course not
04:38 kahrl lua runs on the server and textures can be overridden on any client
04:38 kahrl so the resolution would be useless
04:39 khonkhortisan So the problem is that I'm giving it a resolution, it should already handle it.
04:40 kahrl what are you trying to do?
04:41 khonkhortisan Fix 3d_armor/wieldview/unified_skins to work with a skin that is greater resolution than the armor/item/default skin size
04:41 khonkhortisan It uses the first 64x32 of the image to skin the player.
04:42 khonkhortisan If only I could use a percent or fraction for what pixel to offset to.
04:45 kahrl yeah, I don't think that's possible
04:46 kahrl the only copyToScaling in the engine is for [crack / [cracko
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05:25 VanessaE hm, odd bug in farming - pumpkins don't grow anymore (and tilled soil under one turns back into dry dirt after a while)
05:45 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Only add ^[forcesingle to get raw texture if atlas is used 4f6bec19bc 2013-06-03T22:44:19-07:00 http://git.io/D4GO3g
05:51 khonkhortisan VE: default_inventory_chest.png didn't load at the chessboard travelnet box
05:52 VanessaE huh.  I see no reason why that should be.
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07:10 VanessaE bbl
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07:50 Calinou yey, finished hell :D
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10:32 john_minetest ... http://biebian.sourceforge.net/
10:34 john_minetest 118 downloads in the last week
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10:56 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:57 john_minetest hi PilzAdam
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11:14 rubenwardy Hi all!
11:15 PilzAdam rubenwardy, away nicks are annoying
11:16 rubenwardy nice to know
11:29 rubenwardy I might need someone to test my capture the flag game with me
11:39 john_minetest hi rubenwardy
11:39 rubenwardy Hi
11:40 john_minetest rubenwardy: On a server or offline?
11:40 * PilzAdam just ragequited from kaeza's server
11:41 PilzAdam I was building a stair in the air to a flying castle; the server lagged and I fell down
11:42 rubenwardy My technophobic step-mother has changed the admin password to the router from default, so I can not setup the ports
11:43 john_minetest lol
11:44 john_minetest I am the only one in my family who knows the router password without looking it up.
11:44 rubenwardy I could reset the router, and also the password, but I might have to give a bt password or something to set it up again
11:44 harrison http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiP9irNex-Q&feature=youtu.be
11:47 john_minetest harrison: Yet another strange spasim video ;D
11:48 harrison kali durge na moh na mah
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11:58 rubenwardy_ I took a gamble and it worked!
12:00 john_minetest !up vanessae.mine.bz
12:00 MinetestBot vanessae.mine.bz:30000 is up (603ms)
12:02 rubenwardy Minetest uses UDP, correct?
12:05 rubenwardy !up 86.129.229.213:30000
12:05 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
12:05 rubenwardy !uo 86.129.229.213
12:05 rubenwardy !up 86.129.229.213
12:05 MinetestBot 86.129.229.213:30000 seems to be down
12:06 rubenwardy oh yeah, need to do firewall
12:08 rubenwardy !up 86.129.229.213
12:08 MinetestBot 86.129.229.213:30000 seems to be down
12:17 rubenwardy !up 86.129.229.213
12:17 MinetestBot ...
12:17 rubenwardy Why is it dot dot dotting me?
12:17 rubenwardy !ignorelist
12:20 rubenwardy !up 86.129.229.213 80
12:20 MinetestBot 86.129.229.213:80 seems to be down
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12:21 rubenwardy !up 86.129.229.213 80
12:21 MinetestBot 86.129.229.213:80 seems to be down
12:22 rubenwardy oh, my ip changed
12:22 rubenwardy !up  31.53.195.140
12:22 MinetestBot 31.53.195.140:30000 seems to be down
12:22 rubenwardy !up 31.53.195.140
12:22 MinetestBot 31.53.195.140:30000 seems to be down
12:23 rubenwardy Stupid me
12:23 rubenwardy !up 31.53.195.140
12:23 MinetestBot 31.53.195.140:30000 seems to be down
12:23 rubenwardy !up 31.53.195.140
12:23 MinetestBot 31.53.195.140:30000 seems to be down
12:24 rubenwardy !up 31.53.195.140 80
12:24 MinetestBot 31.53.195.140:80 seems to be down
12:24 rubenwardy The bot does not work
12:24 rubenwardy It says here: http://www.canyouseeme.org/ that it can see me
12:26 rubenwardy 31.53.195.140:80 is online
12:30 PilzAdam ummm
12:30 PilzAdam rubenwardy, /msg MinetestBot
12:30 rubenwardy I was
12:31 rubenwardy but then it was ...
12:31 GhostlyDeath !up 127.0.0.1:22
12:31 MinetestBot GhostlyDeath: Note: Syntax changed please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
12:32 GhostlyDeath !up 127.0.0.1 22
12:32 MinetestBot 127.0.0.1:22 seems to be down
12:34 rubenwardy MinetestBot is shit
12:34 rubenwardy use http://www.canyouseeme.org/
12:35 GhostlyDeath !up 178.33.34.239 80
12:35 MinetestBot 178.33.34.239:80 seems to be down
12:35 PilzAdam sfan5, suggestion: 1 !up command / 10 minutes in channels
12:35 PilzAdam (per user)
12:37 rubenwardy Ok
12:37 rubenwardy The 80 port works
12:37 rubenwardy but the 3000 port does not
12:37 rubenwardy both are forwarded in same way
12:38 rubenwardy http://pastebin.com/6d7LYTKv
12:38 GhostlyDeath The web site looks like it only does TCP
12:38 GhostlyDeath not UDP
12:38 Calinou minetest uses UDP
12:38 Calinou so forward UDP
12:38 rubenwardy yeah, I assumed so
12:38 GhostlyDeath yes
12:38 rubenwardy I did
12:38 rubenwardy >> http://pastebin.com/6d7LYTKv
12:38 GhostlyDeath Why are you using port triggering?
12:39 Calinou did you put your internal IP,
12:39 rubenwardy It is there as default
12:39 GhostlyDeath You know what that is correct?
12:39 GhostlyDeath Port triggering means this
12:39 GhostlyDeath Your game or whatever connects to some server via UDP or TCP
12:39 GhostlyDeath on the specified port
12:39 GhostlyDeath then it triggers to your host
12:39 GhostlyDeath then allows the outside (only certain systems) to connect back to the triggered ports
12:40 GhostlyDeath Some routers might only allow trigger backs from the host communicated to
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12:40 GhostlyDeath So in short
12:40 GhostlyDeath a) All ports closed
12:41 GhostlyDeath b) program connects to remote server UDP 1234
12:41 rubenwardy Calinou, I use Bt HomeHub2, and that snippet is of a program def. You can then link a program def to a device.
12:41 GhostlyDeath c) router opens trigger range to the host on the local network
12:41 GhostlyDeath In most cases, for security reasons, only the host you connect to can connect back
12:42 rubenwardy Port triggering seems to be an optional value, I have deleted it
12:42 GhostlyDeath You are trying to host a server or are you using a client to connect to a remote server?
12:42 rubenwardy host a server
12:42 GhostlyDeath http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_triggering
12:43 rubenwardy should the trigger port be 30000?
12:43 GhostlyDeath What is your router's full make and model?
12:44 rubenwardy BtHomeHub2
12:44 rubenwardy BT is make
12:44 rubenwardy HomeHub2 is model
12:46 rubenwardy I have set up a server before
12:46 rubenwardy And it worked
12:46 GhostlyDeath Keep the trigger blank
12:46 rubenwardy I have opened my firewall to 30000
12:46 rubenwardy If you keep it blank, it goes to 0
12:47 GhostlyDeath Port 0 is invalid, so it might not matter
12:49 rubenwardy !up redcrab.suret.net 30401
12:49 MinetestBot redcrab.suret.net:30401 is up (503ms)
12:51 rubenwardy Must be a firewall problem
12:52 rubenwardy I have checked a tutorial, and I am doing everything right
12:54 rubenwardy My antivirus firewall looks ok
12:55 rubenwardy Can someone attempt to connect to me?
12:55 rubenwardy 31.53.195.140 30000
12:56 rubenwardy !up 31.53.195.140 30000
12:56 MinetestBot 31.53.195.140:30000 is up (199ms)
12:56 rubenwardy Boooya!
13:01 proller server_announce = true
13:03 rubenwardy yeah
13:03 rubenwardy It is only a testing server atm
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13:24 rubenwardy https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/5705874
13:26 PilzAdam there should be some kind of statistics: flags owned by team, captured flags, players, death, K/D ratio etc.
13:30 PilzAdam rubenwardy, the player wichs name is in the name setting in minetest.conf has not revokeable privs
13:30 rubenwardy yeah
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13:31 rubenwardy #of flags statistic is easy
13:31 PilzAdam this has a lot of potential
13:32 PilzAdam also team specific textures for the flag
13:33 rubenwardy That would be good
13:33 rubenwardy but you would need multiple nodes
13:34 rubenwardy list teams now displays
13:34 rubenwardy >> default (3 flags, 2 players)
13:35 rubenwardy I will add a /team_stat and a page on /team
13:41 rubenwardy doing a flag defragmentor (checks all flags are on the right team
13:41 rubenwardy )
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14:12 KikaRz Hallo!
14:12 KikaRz :)
14:12 KikaRz I'll be back to minetest in the following months. =)
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14:44 rubenwardy !tw rubenwardy
14:44 rubenwardy lol
14:44 MinetestBot @RileyTX @PaulGingerich You are a bitch. (@rubenwardy)
14:45 KikaRz lol
14:45 KikaRz !tw PaulGingerich
14:45 KikaRz who's that guy?
14:46 KikaRz See ya later buddies
14:46 KikaRz !online vanessae.mine.bz
14:47 rubenwardy He was a 12 year that was sentanced in prison for life
14:47 KikaRz oh...
14:47 rubenwardy !tw @PaulGingerich
14:47 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Give me a link, a username, or a tweet id
14:47 rubenwardy !tw PaulGingerich
14:47 MinetestBot Paul Henry Gingerich update http://wp.me/pLwBV-2rQ /via @wordpressdotcom (@PaulGingerich)
14:47 KikaRz stupid MinetestBot.
14:47 KikaRz Got me ignored for no reason.
14:47 rubenwardy !up vanessae.mine.bz
14:47 MinetestBot vanessae.mine.bz:30000 is up (379ms)
14:48 KikaRz thank you.
14:48 KikaRz I'll play later
14:48 rubenwardy http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/28/article-2107489-11F229B2000005DC-292_306x423.jpg
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14:51 PilzAdam thexyz, derpswa99 send me a PM where he says that he doesnt have permission to post something
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15:04 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93314#p93314
15:04 rubenwardy !title
15:04 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Name your sever (Page 1) — Servers — Minetest Forums
15:11 Zeg9 ??
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15:12 rubenwardy sever
15:13 * Calinou finished candy box o/
15:13 Calinou 8500 HP now
15:13 ruskie you sure you finished it?
15:13 Calinou yes, my inventory says I finished it
15:13 ruskie my HP was meassured in 9.999999999999999e99 or something like that
15:13 Calinou and I finished developer computer
15:14 ruskie when I finished it
15:14 ruskie I guess I don't consider that message as the final finish hehe
15:14 ruskie you now have a computer tab
15:14 ruskie use it ;)
15:24 Zeg9 Mesecons is a pain to enable from commandline
15:27 Calinou IMO, mods should be on by default on servers
15:27 Calinou noone wants to edit text files to enable mods
15:27 Calinou but you could do that to disable mods
15:27 Calinou but keep them off by default on clients
15:28 Zeg9 in the end I loaded my world.mt in singleplayer so I have the gui for it...
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15:30 VanessaE hiall
15:30 Jordach hey VanessaE
15:31 Zeg9 VanessaE: does homedecor provide 3d signs?
15:31 VanessaE yes
15:31 Zeg9 ah, I was wondering where they came from :D
15:34 ShadowNinja Zeg9: I did %s/false/true/.
15:34 Zeg9 ShadowNinja: I dont really want to enable all of them. In fact, I'm opening back an old map
15:34 VanessaE since I'd originally had a fork of signs that could put them onto fenceposts, kaeza and I added them to allow the same for homedecor's brass and wrought iron fences.
15:40 rubenwardy qwerty
15:41 PilzAdam its funny how you watch random minetest review and Jordach already commented on it: http://youtu.be/Q70q3aTXpw8
15:42 VanessaE PilzAdam: I'm seeing problems with sheep disappearing again.  Also, farming mod provides pumpkins, but they don't grow (the tilled soil turns back into dirt).
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15:43 PilzAdam yea, need to fix the pumpkins
15:44 VanessaE I'd suggest moving those to farming_plus, perhaps.
15:45 PilzAdam ehm
15:45 PilzAdam they are in farming_pluss
15:45 VanessaE oh, heh
15:45 VanessaE I must have been looking at outdated code then (online)
15:45 PilzAdam thats why they are broken
15:45 VanessaE in that case nevermind ;)
15:46 VanessaE they're still busted :D
15:47 Jordach isnt that the case for most PilzAdam's mods
15:48 PilzAdam mostly I code my mods in 1 day and they work perfectly fine
15:48 PilzAdam then I release them and walk away
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15:48 Jordach ...for you
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15:48 PilzAdam markveidemanis, quit join spamming
15:48 VanessaE *sniffs*  ...  what's that smell?
15:48 markveidemanis Half the people here join spam
15:48 PilzAdam no
15:48 VanessaE OH, I know...  it's PilzAdam...he's full of shit ;)
15:48 markveidemanis jordach, oldcoder,
15:48 Jordach WHAT
15:49 VanessaE markveidemanis: half the people of the world might jump off a bridge, too.
15:49 markveidemanis Yes you do
15:49 PilzAdam markveidemanis, you are the only one that produces 5 join/part lines when joining
15:49 Jordach markveidemanis, OR, use a real client
15:49 PilzAdam this is the last warning
15:49 PilzAdam next time you will be banned
15:49 markveidemanis fuck you
15:50 markveidemanis was kicked by VanessaE: fuck you, too.
15:50 * Jordach eats popcorn
15:50 rubenwardy lol
15:51 VanessaE Jordach: share?
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15:51 Jordach VanessaE, sure
15:51 markveidemanis SEE? ^^^
15:51 markveidemanis doog timing aswell
15:51 PilzAdam markveidemanis, hmm... that just shows me that you can control the join spam
15:51 VanessaE markveidemanis: that's not join spam, that's an automatic Freenode cloak.
15:51 PilzAdam wich means you have done this in purpose all the time
15:51 Jordach markveidemanis, thats not as bad as three lines
15:52 Zeg9 Anyone has a link to the steel mod?
15:52 markveidemanis sorry no
15:52 Jordach steel mod?
15:52 markveidemanis I know where...
15:52 VanessaE (actually, so is mark's)
15:52 Jordach mods.minetest.ru
15:52 Jordach check it
15:52 Jordach !title
15:52 MinetestBot Jordach: Game Church : The Minetest - YouTube
15:52 markveidemanis Cornernotes megapack has it
15:52 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2014
15:52 sfan5 Jordach: https?:// is required for it to notice it
15:52 VanessaE maybe this?
15:53 sfan5 !re
15:53 sfan5 !re `
15:53 MinetestBot sfan5: Give me a regex and a message seperated by `
15:53 VanessaE Zeg9: ^^^^^^^
15:53 VanessaE bah, bad download link.
15:54 Zeg9 Yeah. :/
15:54 Zeg9 Will look on mods.minetest.ru
15:54 sfan5 !re (https?://[^<> "\x01]+)`mods.minetest.ru
15:54 MinetestBot false
15:54 sfan5 ^ Jordach
15:54 Zeg9 oh, seems I still have it in my archives
15:55 VanessaE Zeg9: send it my way please, so I can fix the first post
15:55 Zeg9 I think I'll upload it to my github
15:55 VanessaE that'll work too
15:58 Zeg9 VanessaE: https://github.com/Zeg9/minetest-steel
15:59 VanessaE fixed.  thanks
16:00 VanessaE there, and cached the one good image
16:03 rubenwardy "Oh look at my hand, it looks like a mushroom"
16:03 sfan5 rubenwardy: who said that?
16:03 rubenwardy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vdqsz87ZBA
16:04 sfan5 I love that video
16:04 sfan5 his voice...
16:05 Jordach <sfan5> <3
16:05 sfan5 "Papirus"
16:05 * Zeg9 lol'ed SUPERTACOMAN98 YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP SOME PEOPLE THINK ITS BETTER CUZ ITS LESS LAGGY YOU DUMB BITCH!
16:05 Zeg9 [/quote=Vladimir Vex]
16:05 Jordach Minecrafters... They're like my older brother, easy to piss off
16:06 sfan5 yeah, most of them
16:06 sfan5 "This game just got 20000 times better"
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16:07 sfan5 WTF?!
16:07 sfan5 [quote][...]I would recommend trying this game and pirating Minecraft.[...][/quote]
16:08 sfan5 rubenwardy: you make 3 comments at once?
16:08 rubenwardy Yeah bruf
16:08 rubenwardy I make them as I watch
16:08 Jordach Zeg9, how do i craft a pedestal
16:08 VanessaE Zeg9: it's on my server now.
16:09 Zeg9 Jordach: stone,stone,stone/ ,stone, /stone,stone,stone
16:09 rubenwardy fixed
16:09 Zeg9 I hate when people say "you cracked minecraft"... The free download is directly from their website
16:09 Jordach tch, my server has it missing
16:10 sfan5 also when you use a hacked client (like nodus) on MC server, you get banned for "hacking"
16:10 sfan5 hacking != cheating
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16:11 rubenwardy qwerty
16:11 rubenwardy ///////////////////////////
16:11 sfan5 "Oh and you can jump aswell. Sweet!" hahaha
16:12 Zeg9 VanessaE: by the way my idea for the metal blocks was coming from here 8)
16:12 VanessaE I thought maybe :)
16:14 * Zeg9 just learned you could place PilzAdam's gunpowder by checking for unknown blocks on my map...
16:14 sfan5 does papyrus grow?
16:15 Zeg9 They do
16:15 rubenwardy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLsY0y0SfP0
16:15 sfan5 !title
16:15 MinetestBot sfan5: Maggie Monster (Guinea Pig) - Spoof Trailer - YouTube
16:17 Jordach my gimp zoom level is at 9000
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16:19 rubenwardy bye all
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16:22 Zeg9 Hey john_minetest
16:22 john_minetest hey Zeg9
16:23 mrJMR REGISTER
16:23 VanessaE this ain't chanserv, mrJMR
16:23 mrJMR Ok
16:28 * Zeg9 got lots of "ServerEnvironment::addActiveObjectRaw(): could not find block ..."
16:28 JMR_ there
16:28 Jordach SOOOOOOO SMOOTH! http://i.imgur.com/HlD39vr.png
16:28 JMR_ Now I am registered here
16:29 PilzAdam Jordach, cool
16:29 * PilzAdam likes
16:29 Zeg9 Jordach: converted into "palette" mode in gimp?
16:29 Zeg9 May I add this to skins mod ? :p
16:29 Jordach Zeg9, i just changed the colours out
16:29 Jordach Zeg9, i also have a bunch of skins lying about
16:30 * Zeg9 is interested
16:32 Jordach Zeg9, http://www.mediafire.com/download/rw7u0znbzfv5r2k/skins.zip
16:32 Jordach all of these are cc-by-sa
16:32 Zeg9 Jordach, thanks!
16:32 Jordach four skins
16:33 Jordach and a female sam
16:33 Jordach solving the male/female issue
16:33 Jordach WazuClan uses these afaik
16:33 Jordach (vanessa's skin + sam f.)
16:34 Zeg9 Generating previews... And I'll upload it
16:35 markveidemanis How do i speed up loading?
16:35 markveidemanis without disabling item visuals
16:35 Jordach markveidemanis, you cant.
16:36 Jordach this ISNT #minecraft
16:36 markveidemanis ?
16:40 Jordach hows this looking? http://i.imgur.com/m9jkJBM.png
16:41 Calinou looks good
16:41 Calinou but still not finished ;)
16:41 john_minetest Jordach: Strange. "Hi"-res stone and gravel and lo-res rest
16:41 Jordach john_minetest, unfinished
16:41 Zeg9 would look better with stone and gravel :D
16:41 john_minetest The rest looks good.
16:41 Zeg9 I like the grass and dirt especially
16:41 Jordach it already supports carts
16:41 Calinou TIL 16×16 is hires
16:41 markveidemanis Zeg9
16:41 markveidemanis whats only4kbps
16:41 Jordach and xpanes
16:42 Jordach it also supports default flowers
16:43 Jordach its also the world where i found that cliff for the render.
16:43 Jordach ProTip: My house uses a ladder as the mobs in sim_mobs are dumb
16:43 Zeg9 markveidemanis, not ready yet
16:44 john_minetest 11 people on one server !
16:45 Jordach Zeg9, john_minetest, Calinou: it's 8px
16:45 Zeg9 john_minetest, I once got 18 people on mine :D
16:45 Zeg9 Traxie21 too iirc
16:46 Calinou john_minetest: Metacraft beat you to it
16:46 john_minetest Somehow the number of people on servers is less now. I think it is mainly caused by the fact that the HUGE servers are not listed.
16:46 Calinou 212 players!
16:46 Zeg9 My brother is trying to press my shutdown button. /me doesnt regret having a "door" on my computer.
16:46 Jordach Zeg9, im coin operated
16:46 Calinou john_minetest: yep, redcrab servers aren't listed
16:46 Zeg9 Calinou, at the same time?
16:47 Calinou Zeg9: my case's buttons and USB ports are on top, not on the front :P
16:47 Calinou Zeg9: yes
16:47 john_minetest Calinou: And all the OldCoder servers
16:47 Calinou it was some kind of DoS attack :P
16:47 Zeg9 oh, I remember now
16:47 Zeg9 lol
16:47 Calinou Zeg9: also, putting your case in a cupboard or something like that is bad for cooling
16:47 Calinou and may increase noise (turbulence)
16:47 * Jordach cant wait until MGV7
16:48 Zeg9 +1
16:49 Zeg9 Calinou: http://tinyurl.com/m2t2ypf << here is my case (sorta)
16:49 OldCoder Hi'
16:49 OldCoder john_minetest, hmm?
16:49 Jordach sup OldCoder
16:50 Zeg9 Hello, OldCoder
16:50 OldCoder Jordach, Zeg9 Hello. Things are proceeding.
16:50 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/dICYqa6.png
16:50 OldCoder Revisiting my old scripts and hoping to write new setup page.
16:50 Jordach Zeg9, john_minetest ^
16:50 Calinou 140€ for this lolololo
16:50 OldCoder * pafes
16:51 Jordach pages*
16:51 OldCoder john_minetest, I can't view images today
16:51 OldCoder Yes
16:51 Calinou how come my full tower case is 135€ with shipping...
16:51 Zeg9 140 ? I didn't pay 140€ for this!
16:51 OldCoder Oops
16:51 OldCoder Jordach, *
16:51 Calinou and full tower shipping is 20€ :p
16:51 Jordach thats fine
16:51 Zeg9 didnt read the link lol
16:51 * OldCoder is on a little HP Mini
16:51 NakedFury that is a lot
16:51 Calinou oh, it's bundled with a PSU
16:51 NakedFury cant you find a cheaper one calinou?
16:51 Calinou most bundled PSUs are shit
16:51 OldCoder HP Mini has quirks but it is a very convenient size
16:51 NakedFury ohh that explains it
16:51 Calinou NakedFury: there are, but you have to deal with some downsides then
16:52 Calinou eg. noise, soldered PCI slots, etc
16:52 Calinou bad finish too :P
16:52 Calinou 130€ is "top notch" for a case, no need to go above ;)
16:52 john_minetest hi OldCoder
16:52 Zeg9 Jordach, looks a lot better
16:52 Calinou OldCoder: trashable case :3
16:52 john_minetest This is so epic: http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1944625487/omni-move-naturally-in-your-favorite-game
16:52 NakedFury the only downside to mine is lack of good space but that is because my psu has some huge cables
16:54 Jordach heres my current setup: http://i.imgur.com/mFifRcH.jpg
16:54 Calinou john_minetest: inb4 scam
16:54 Calinou NakedFury: modularity FTW
16:54 Calinou < says the guy with a non-modular PSU ._.
16:54 Jordach Calinou, my stock acer case is fine
16:54 NakedFury it is a modular psu
16:54 Calinou dat wireless mouse, Jordach
16:54 NakedFury but the cables that I use are too long
16:55 Jordach Calinou, its wired
16:55 Calinou Jordach: yeah, shitty inside look, zero cable management, shitty finish, soldered PCI slots, noname PSU
16:55 NakedFury long and too wide.
16:55 Calinou there is a reason you build PCs today :P
16:55 Jordach Calinou, PSU was replaced
16:55 Jordach most of the insides arent stock anymore
16:55 Jordach the mobo and cpu are now just stock
16:55 NakedFury yeah I spent good money and built my own pc
16:56 NakedFury its possible I may need a new graphic card in the near future but for now I can run new games fine
16:56 Calinou tip: buy modified cards (with a few exceptions), reference ones are noisy :P
16:56 NakedFury modified?
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16:57 NakedFury how do I tell when browsing
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16:57 Calinou by modified, I mean, a card that has a modified heatsink/fan combo, so that it cools better and quiter
16:57 Calinou just look at random tests on the internet :P
16:57 NakedFury ohh
16:57 Calinou it is more expensive (between 20 and 60 euros) but worth it
16:57 NakedFury that would make sense but I would also need to consider space
16:58 Calinou most modified cards aren't much longer than a ref one
16:58 Jordach Calinou, http://imgur.com/a/IditW
16:58 Calinou most cases also support up to 30cm graphic cards
16:58 Calinou mine supports 34 :P
16:58 Calinou ah ok Jordach
16:58 Calinou dat intel stickers 3
16:58 Calinou :3*
16:58 Jordach Calinou, its a '06 P4
16:58 Jordach i can upgrade to duo core
16:58 NakedFury and another thing I have to consider is if I stay amd or switch to intel
16:59 Jordach stay with AMD
16:59 Calinou depends
16:59 Calinou value? AMD then
16:59 Calinou performance? intel then
16:59 Jordach they arent all about DRM either
16:59 Jordach (AMD)
16:59 Calinou suddenly: drivers
16:59 Jordach hurr durr
17:01 Jordach Calinou, dunno why, but why hasnt the P4 line died
17:01 Jordach (as in usage)
17:01 Jordach it proves that P4's dont die
17:01 Calinou because it's still sufficient for web browsing, like open source drivers
17:01 Jordach yeah
17:01 Jordach but MS wants them deda
17:01 Calinou more recent CPUs don't die either, lots of people are still on C2D
17:01 Jordach dead
17:01 Calinou they don't, they want tech to advance
17:01 Calinou you're going to break stuff
17:02 Jordach as most of them can run 7, but not 8
17:02 VanessaE Zeg9: expanded the first post on that steel mod considerably, in case you're curious.
17:02 Calinou also, it's not like MS are the nicest guys in the world
17:02 * Zeg9 will look
17:02 Jordach Calinou, windows 8 is awesome
17:03 Jordach just because of performance boosts
17:03 Calinou it is faster than windows 7, yeah
17:03 Jordach Calinou, 8.1 can boot to the desktop now
17:03 Calinou but it, and the upgrade, are not free (as in price)
17:03 Calinou 8.1 isn't out yet
17:03 Calinou and I smell paid upgrade
17:03 Jordach Calinou, yeah
17:03 Jordach Calinou, i dont
17:04 Jordach windows 8 i think is better than 7, but just under XP
17:05 Jordach and vista hasnt crashed once :)
17:06 Calinou same for me, back when I used it
17:06 * Calinou finished translating stuntrally more or less, 95% done
17:06 Jordach Calinou, thats because im using the correct drivers for vista and not the OEM Crap they provide me with#
17:06 Jordach -#
17:06 * Calinou saw a translation griefing in another project's suggestion
17:06 Calinou who does that :P
17:06 Jordach Calinou, someone with a lack of language
17:06 Jordach OMFG
17:07 Jordach we should make l33tsp34k a language
17:07 Calinou it is
17:07 Calinou in BZFlag there is a l33t language
17:07 Jordach just for minetest
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17:10 I-Punkt someone sucessfulle run a minetest --server on raspberry Pi?
17:11 kaeza greetings
17:12 * VanessaE pokes kaeza
17:12 Zeg9 Hi kaeza
17:12 VanessaE I-Punkt: I seem to recall reading of at least one person doing that, whether they were successful or not I dunno
17:12 VanessaE but the RPi is a but underpowered for running a MT server
17:13 VanessaE bit*
17:13 kaeza hey V
17:13 kaeza hey Zeg
17:13 VanessaE (at least, if you want anything other than a fairly vanilla setup, with no mapgen-oriented mods)
17:13 kaeza any news?
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17:14 webdesigner97 hi
17:15 Zeg9 Hi
17:15 I-Punkt on my rpi runs the server, but the Desktopclient sleeps during [0%] Media while connecting. In >Serverconsole i can see the client-login
17:16 webdesigner97 Does anybody have a good explanation on chatcommands with multiple paramerters? The API documentation and the dev wiki don't explain it :(
17:16 VanessaE kaeza: look at the latest commits to the minetest engine, kahrl has been doing some good stuff of late
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17:16 Zeg9 anyone else tried running it on a wii ? ;-)
17:17 I-Punkt [0%] media .... any idea?
17:17 VanessaE heh
17:17 VanessaE I-Punkt: no idea, sorry
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17:17 PilzAdam I-Punkt, maybe set up the cURL thingy to download the media from somewhere else?
17:18 PilzAdam and maybe post a --verbose log of the server
17:18 VanessaE I-Punkt: how media are you trying to transfer anyway?
17:18 kaeza VanessaE, I see. so one can safely use /clearobjects now?
17:18 VanessaE kaeza: yep
17:19 VanessaE kaeza: worst case scenario, it will add about 90 MB to your usage,
17:19 I-Punkt VanessaE: PilzAdam: any howto-url? the media-Line is written during connecting.
17:19 VanessaE I-Punkt: what I mean is, do you have a lot of mods, lots of textures, etc to send from server to client?
17:19 kaeza that's a massive reduction from ~23GB :)
17:19 VanessaE yep :)
17:19 I-Punkt no mods, a new clean server
17:20 I-Punkt lets talk german, lol...
17:20 VanessaE no :)
17:20 I-Punkt french?
17:20 I-Punkt ;-)
17:20 PilzAdam I-Punkt, btw: #minetest-de
17:21 I-Punkt oh.... thx
17:22 PilzAdam new win build: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4547
17:23 Jordach kahrl is just awesome with bugfixes
17:24 Zeg9 btw, will official builds contain gettext?
17:24 PilzAdam yes
17:24 Zeg9 Great
17:25 markveidemanis Would anyone like to test my pub
17:25 markveidemanis Theres no carlsberg
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17:26 webdesigner97 mark, i don't have much time for the hotel today, sry. I'll help you tomorrow or the day after tomorrow ;)
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17:27 KikaRz Hi
17:27 markveidemanis okay
17:27 markveidemanis Hi KikaRz
17:27 KikaRz Hello VanessaE
17:27 Jordach hey KikaRz
17:27 KikaRz Hello markveidemanis
17:27 KikaRz Hello Jordach
17:28 markveidemanis Wanna test my cafe?
17:28 KikaRz Your what?
17:28 markveidemanis Bar/Pub
17:28 KikaRz Well, I would like.
17:28 Jordach i think markveidemanis means café
17:28 markveidemanis join my server in the serverlist
17:28 KikaRz cafãC?
17:28 KikaRz xd
17:28 VanessaE hi
17:28 markveidemanis I was trying, but it wont work
17:28 markveidemanis cafæ
17:28 KikaRz markveidemanis, your server ip please?
17:29 markveidemanis 86.158.246.104
17:29 KikaRz markveidemanis: , it's café
17:29 markveidemanis łøł
17:30 KikaRz Your beautiful keyboards dislike ´ , ` , ^ , ~ õãâêîôûáéíóúàèìòù
17:30 KikaRz lawl
17:30 VanessaE KikaRz: y u no play on my server? :(
17:30 PilzAdam wtf
17:30 markveidemanis @Å‚e¶ŧ←↓→øþæßðđŋħł«»¢“”nµ that  is all
17:30 PilzAdam this is an English channel
17:31 KikaRz I've been playing at it
17:31 markveidemanis µtorrent :)
17:31 VanessaE oh. ok, carry on then :D
17:31 markveidemanis kikaRz, join mine
17:31 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/RcqOJYM.png
17:31 KikaRz PilzAdam, there are some keyboards that supports "accents"
17:31 khonkhortisan µController
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17:31 KikaRz VanessaE, I'm going to test markveidemanis's cafe
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17:31 Jordach KikaRz, on a windows system: alt gr + letters
17:31 markveidemanis khonk, wanna go be a bartender?
17:31 KikaRz ?
17:31 khonkhortisan no
17:32 khonkhortisan I don't drink
17:32 markveidemanis you dont need to
17:32 markveidemanis its not drinks
17:32 markveidemanis its cake!
17:32 Jordach heres my keyboard with altgr + all keys
17:32 KikaRz ?)???•??N??!
17:32 Jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/5733284/
17:32 KikaRz lawl
17:33 KikaRz So VanessaE, how have you been?
17:33 Jordach Calinou, Zeg9, john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/RcqOJYM.png
17:33 VanessaE been okay, all things considered.
17:33 Jordach WOOD
17:33 khonkhortisan You need ãàâąȧä
17:33 KikaRz VanessaE, i'll have time to do my mods :)
17:33 VanessaE Jordach: looks more like brick
17:33 KikaRz In 10 days, i'll be vacating.
17:34 Jordach VanessaE, i like wood tilews
17:34 Jordach tiles*
17:34 KikaRz that's a cool term... but its: I'll be on vacations
17:34 khonkhortisan I have wood like that with longer panels
17:34 Jordach VanessaE, four slats or keep it like that
17:35 VanessaE Jordach: keep it like that, but reduce the 3d effect a bit
17:36 Jordach VanessaE, BUMPmaps
17:36 Jordach i can use those when we get em
17:36 VanessaE yes
17:36 VanessaE HDX already has bumpmaps :)
17:36 Jordach for now, im leaving it
17:36 VanessaE (but of course you need RBA's fork to use them)
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17:37 VanessaE I should produce a separate fork of HDX that moves all of the 3d effect to the bumpmaps
17:38 Jordach HDX Bumpmap Pack
17:39 khonkhortisan "wieldview_character_bg.png^[combine:^[sizexof:character.png;x^[sizexof:character.png;:0,^[sizeyof:character.png;="..wielded_item_texture.."^[scale:
17:39 khonkhortisan armor/wieldeditems gets complicated with different image sizes
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17:40 Telek Do them as voxels and just have them bake to 2d images as needed? :D
17:41 KikaRz guys, can I give you one idea?
17:41 Zeg9 PilzAdam, so, dungeon masters can destroy bones, heh
17:41 VanessaE New build: 4f6bec19[...]
17:41 KikaRz Well... Why you don't put a /gamemode command
17:42 KikaRz that you can set your gamemode as Creative or Survival?
17:42 Exio because, for now, the gamemode is defined for all users
17:43 KikaRz ... That's what I know.
17:46 KikaRz VanessaE: Can I join your server?
17:47 VanessaE sure, it's always up
17:47 KikaRz VanessaE: I want to tell you some things
17:47 KikaRz in-game.
17:47 VanessaE just /msg me here, I'm not on the server right now
17:48 Telek Hey Vanessa, could you reset my pass when you get a chance and send me a PM?
17:49 VanessaE Zeg9: can you check that steel mod and see if there's anything in it that would cause this?  -->    12:21:06: ERROR[main]: ERROR: An unhandled exception occurred: ServerError: LuaError: error: /usr/share/minetest/builtin/item.lua:339: attempt to call field 'handle_node_drops' (a nil value)
17:49 VanessaE Telek: sure
17:49 KikaRz Who can give me the minetest texture pack?
17:49 KikaRz I have Sphax for no reason '-'
17:49 VanessaE KikaRz: just delete the contents of minetestfolder/textures/all
17:49 KikaRz Really?
17:49 VanessaE yeah
17:50 VanessaE chances are that's where sphax resides
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17:50 KikaRz Lol
17:50 KikaRz I'm running at Windows 98 '-'
17:50 KikaRz working very well *w*
17:51 VanessaE Zeg9: nevermind - it can't be that mod, it's just simple nodes and recipes.  there's nothing in there that messes with drops.
17:51 Zeg9 Yeah
17:51 VanessaE PilzAdam: ^^^  that bug is clearly in the latest git of minetest.
17:51 Telek KikaRz: Windows 98 + Minetest?!?!
17:51 Zeg9 When does it occur?
17:51 * Telek didn't think that would work.
17:51 KikaRz Yes Telek.
17:51 KikaRz Working well
17:51 VanessaE Zeg9: no clue, I just see the server crash now and then, and find that ^^^ in my logs.
17:52 PilzAdam VanessaE, no, it appears in the minetest.dig_node() function; you cant image the shitstorm here if it would be a real bug in upstream
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17:52 KikaRz VanessaE, joining your server...
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17:52 KikaRz @OFFTOPIC - how i update opengl?
17:52 Zeg9 update your drivers
17:53 KikaRz ...
17:53 KikaRz Already
17:53 KikaRz and the opengl don't updates.
17:53 Calinou \o/
17:53 Calinou J4I on #debian @ oftc
17:53 Zeg9 Well. You can also use opengl's software renderer ;-)
17:54 KikaRz ?
17:54 KikaRz what?
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17:54 KikaRz I think this works: http://www.opengl.org/wiki/Getting_started#Windows
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17:54 KikaRz GRRRRR!
17:55 Calinou KikaRz: too old graphics card
17:55 Telek It's software not hardware opengl though KikaRz
17:55 KikaRz not too old -.-
17:55 kaeza [14:50:24] <KikaRz> I'm running at Windows 98 '-' <-- Win98 OS is the best Win version EVAR
17:55 kaeza Win98SE*
17:55 Telek We need more fallback capabilities :(
17:55 Calinou no we don't
17:55 Calinou windows 98 cannot run most software from today
17:55 kaeza IK
17:55 Calinou no need to try
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17:56 Zeg9 Irrlicht has got 2 software renderers too
17:56 KikaRz Let me see what are those
17:56 Zeg9 (only one works with minetest from my experience though)
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17:56 Calinou both suck :P
17:56 Calinou even on an i7 you have 20 FPS :P
17:56 Telek Well given that 0.4.6 broke on Atom N2600's which are year old chips (due to horrid PowerVR SGX chips) due to the shader stuff, and that I can still run minetest on either a Radeon 9000 or 9800 with 128 megs of ram prior to this...
17:57 VanessaE Telek: try signing in now.
17:57 Calinou shitty year old chips*, FTFY
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17:57 Calinou also, you can disable shaders
17:57 Telek Okay, thanks Vanessa ;)
17:57 Telek Calinou: It still threw an error about shaders with them off.
17:57 Calinou also, large amounts of VRAM do not mean performance
17:57 Telek Who said anything about speed?
17:57 KikaRz Not that.
17:57 KikaRz I've got 2 equal graphics card
17:57 KikaRz in each computer
17:57 KikaRz Using renderer: OpenGL 2.1.2
17:57 kaeza someone has been placing water all around spawn .-.
17:57 Telek I just mean enough that it wouldn't crash with 'out of texture memory' errors.
17:57 KikaRz GeForce 6150SE nForce 430/integrated/SSE2/3DNOW!: NViDia Corporation
17:57 KikaRz was kicked by ShadowBot: Message flood detected.
17:58 Telek Which it actually DOES do with enough modpacks on a card that small.
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17:58 Calinou shitty onboard thingy, see
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17:58 KikaRz Dafuq?
17:58 Calinou even if it worked, I'd be surprised
17:58 kaeza lel
17:58 KikaRz why i've been kicked?
17:58 Telek KikaRz: I used that under linux and Minetest was the only thing that worked right on it.
17:58 Calinou the bot is a bit too strict
17:58 KikaRz It's a piece of crap
17:59 Calinou no u
17:59 Telek It was maybe 20-30fps max FYI
17:59 kaeza whoa
17:59 kaeza netsplit?
18:00 Telek Whee :)
18:00 * Calinou has irc_conf_mode = 1
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18:01 KikaRz Maybe.
18:01 KikaRz Calinou, you said that I were a piece of crap?
18:01 KikaRz .
18:01 Calinou yeah :P sorry
18:01 KikaRz telek, wee what?
18:01 KikaRz yeah what?
18:02 KikaRz Omg, this irc is laggy
18:02 webdesigner97 Some weeks ago, somebody told me way to call a chatcommand from the API. Who can tell me it again?
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18:04 kaeza webdesigner97, minetest.chatcommands["foo"].func("bar", "baz")
18:05 KikaRz got to go.
18:05 kaeza "foo" is command, "bar" is user, "baz" is param
18:05 webdesigner97 great! thx
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18:06 kaeza or even better
18:06 kaeza minetest.chatcommands.foo.fonc("bar", "baz")
18:07 webdesigner97 fonc?
18:07 kaeza (if "foo" is a valid Lua identifier)
18:07 kaeza func*
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18:07 Telek Thanks Vanessa! :)
18:07 * Telek afks for a bit.
18:07 VanessaE np
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18:07 webdesigner97 So if i use 'minetest.chatcommands[result:get_player_name()].func("sethome", "")', I can manipulate result's homepos? Great!
18:08 kaeza ehh no
18:08 kaeza minetest.chatcommands["sethome"].func(result:get_player_name(), "")
18:09 webdesigner97 oops
18:09 kaeza (ideally, all mods would profive commands as API calls, and the chatcommand would parse user input and call API accordingly)
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18:09 kaeza blah
18:09 kaeza provide*
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18:11 Jordach hahaha netsplit
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18:12 VanessaE Zeg9: can you release an update for that steel mod that uses softdepend to detect the streets mod (and alias the metal strut to streets "steel frame")?
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18:14 khonkhortisan http://postimg.org/image/dfhqj8c1f/ is what is created when the wield, shield, and armor are placed on the skin. If any of these things are a different resolution, they will not fit correctly into their uv-mapped areas. What is needed is a scaling version of ^[combine that increases the sizes of both the image and the blit (LCD) to put images of any size in the correct areas of the uv map.
18:15 Zeg9 VanessaE: sorry I have to go, cant do it now :/
18:15 VanessaE well not right now
18:15 Zeg9 I'll add it to my TODO list
18:15 Zeg9 bye all
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18:22 webdesigner97 gtg now, bye :)
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18:33 kaeza lol "check tubes for kittens"
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18:34 Exio saw it
18:34 Exio laughed too
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18:50 Jordach did i just survive a netsplit
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18:54 * PilzAdam just wrote textures instead of topics in the forum
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18:59 sfan5 PilzAdam: don't respond to people who bump topics
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20:07 sfan5 oh god! this s/the cloud/my butt/ extension is just hilarious
20:10 PilzAdam sfan5, https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/753
20:10 * khonkhortisan can't compose a gnaborretni
20:13 sfan5 PilzAdam: I was just going to fix the memory leaks
20:13 sfan5 ...
20:14 sfan5 PilzAdam: its base64 encoded
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20:23 STHGOM who can help me with a greifer on redcrab.suret.net port 30031?
20:24 Jordach is that the 0.3.1 server
20:24 STHGOM an entire village got griefed
20:24 STHGOM yes
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20:25 Jordach i might have ban perms
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20:26 Calinou I'll break YOUR pipes
20:27 Calinou had to reconnect to fix netsplit
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20:35 STHGOM i will start making repairs
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20:42 sfan5 good night
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20:44 MinerofLands wasssup peepz
20:44 STHGOM hi
20:59 MinerofLands !up mt.planetminetest.com
20:59 MinetestBot mt.planetminetest.com:30000 is up (591ms)
20:59 kaeza anyone? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93353#p93353
20:59 kaeza hey Miner
21:00 MinerofLands hey kaeza :D
21:04 thexyz why did he remove it?
21:09 kaeza dunno
21:09 kaeza but the money mod is not the same as nodex
21:09 MinerofLands have you tried the internet time machine?
21:09 MinerofLands google it
21:09 MinerofLands might have it
21:09 kaeza ah that might work
21:10 kaeza inb4 ompldr link
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21:10 MinerofLands no it doesnt exist lol
21:10 Calinou wb Taoki :P
21:10 MinerofLands it just shows the recent one
21:10 MinerofLands http://web.archive.org/liveweb/http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4598
21:11 Taoki thanks
21:11 kaeza yep :(
21:11 kaeza hello Taoki
21:11 Calinou Taoki, xonotic 0.7 will be released soon
21:11 Taoki ok
21:11 Calinou I translated stuntrally 3 days ago...
21:11 Calinou ...and now I'm doing xonotic
21:11 Calinou ._.
21:11 thexyz what the fuck happened with omploader?
21:11 Calinou thexyz, no idea
21:12 Calinou but it looks like *cough*google*cough* or something like that doesn't like it :)
21:12 Calinou or the ompldr admins are just on a shortage of money
21:13 thexyz google?
21:15 Calinou by google, I mean some random big website
21:15 Calinou "or something like that"
21:15 Calinou let's say "mediafire & co" </conspiracy>
21:16 MinerofLands well Avast flagged it like a month ago
21:16 MinerofLands for containing virus...maybe its related to that
21:19 kaeza thexyz could make a minetest-centric file hoster on files.minetest.net
21:19 * kaeza runs
21:19 MinerofLands lol
21:20 MinerofLands we can use this
21:20 MinerofLands http://dropitto.me/
21:20 MinerofLands create a minetest dropbox account
21:21 MinerofLands and use that
21:21 kaeza dropbox blocks your account if there's too much traffic
21:21 kaeza it's in their TOS
21:22 MinerofLands ahh i see
21:22 MinerofLands or you could rent out a cloud server
21:23 MinerofLands or you can just use "unlimited" hosting
21:24 thexyz kaeza: what if one day I disappear?
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21:24 thexyz with all those files ^^
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21:25 kaeza ^ what happened with ompldr
21:26 MinerofLands ^ minus.com
21:33 Calinou <kaeza> dropbox blocks your account if there's too much traffic
21:34 Calinou it is unlikely for your account to have a too high traffic
21:34 Calinou only Vattic has the power to do that :P
21:34 Calinou even if you get 5000 downloads/day I doubt it would be blocked
21:34 Calinou you can always try and see :P
21:34 MinerofLands thats what i said but i always get shot down?
21:34 MinerofLands :(
21:35 kaeza well, bleh
21:35 kaeza do it :)
21:35 MinerofLands still thats up to xyz lol
21:35 MinerofLands i think
21:36 thexyz it seems limit is 20gb/day for dropbox
21:36 thexyz for a single link
21:36 Calinou still quite a lot
21:36 Calinou unless it is Gb and not GB :P
21:37 kaeza still 20Gb is quite a lot for the average MT mod
21:37 kaeza the only ones that are truly big are in github anyway
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21:39 Calinou like *cough*more blocks*cough*
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21:40 kaeza Uberi is another
21:40 kaeza oop
21:40 kaeza s
21:40 * kaeza hides
21:41 Uberi o/
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22:04 Uberi AHHH GITHUB IS DOWN
22:04 Uberi oh wait never mind
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22:08 STHGOM bye
22:08 kaeza YEAH!
22:08 kaeza another user banned
22:08 thexyz ?
22:08 STHGOM O_o
22:08 kaeza my serv
22:08 kaeza too much griefing -.-
22:09 STHGOM what is your serv?
22:09 kaeza it's in the public list
22:10 MinerofLands why isnt mine in the public list :(
22:12 Calinou MinerofLands, you must announce it as "public" using minetest.conf settings
22:14 MinerofLands kk...ill edit the config later
22:14 MinerofLands calinou do you like me now :d
22:15 Calinou no.
22:15 MinerofLands :(
22:15 MinerofLands why
22:15 MinerofLands i thought we were cool
22:15 MinerofLands :D
22:15 MinerofLands i thought we were homeboyz/roaddoggs/g's
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22:30 Calinou night
22:30 MinerofLands goodnight
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22:33 * VanessaE_ is back.  yay.
22:33 Uberi *a wild VanessaE_ has appeared*
22:33 VanessaE_ heh
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22:40 khonkhortisan At the risk of a floating point exception, I've created a scaling version of [combine, which I've called [map, short for uv map.
22:41 khonkhortisan tiles = "default_dirt.png^[map:0,0,0.5,0.5=default_sand.png" will create sand in the corner of dirt
22:41 Uberi whoa
22:45 khonkhortisan http://www.tiikoni.com/tis/view/?id=10e0e79
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23:04 GroundRaiser hey
23:04 Uberi o/
23:05 GroundRaiser anyone there
23:06 Uberi nope
23:06 Uberi not me, I'm just a bot
23:06 VanessaE_ nope, we're all asleep
23:06 VanessaE_ *handwave* These are not the chatters you are looking for.
23:06 GroundRaiser Oh lol well I should leave I guess
23:07 GroundRaiser *starts to walk away*
23:07 VanessaE_ lol
23:08 GroundRaiser so how are you VanessaE
23:08 VanessaE_ I'm okay
23:09 GroundRaiser thats good and I am honestly confused with a few things
23:09 VanessaE_ so what's up?
23:10 GroundRaiser well I am trying to install mods and I seem to not understand it
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23:10 cprofitt VanessaE_: are you here?
23:10 VanessaE_ hi
23:10 cprofitt I am having an issue with the dyes working -- they show 'unknown' items in the craft guide
23:10 VanessaE_ cprofitt: you mean unified dyes?
23:10 cprofitt and it appears I am missing the simple mod 'dye' though I have unified dyes
23:10 VanessaE_ oh
23:11 VanessaE_ yeah, the 'dye' mod is part of minetest_game
23:11 VanessaE_ (formerly, 'common')
23:11 cprofitt got it
23:11 cprofitt world.mt issue then
23:12 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: installing mods is pretty easy really, all you have to do is download, unzip the mod, rename the folder to just the real name of the mod (e.g. VanessaE-homedecor-43642736423 -->  homedecor), and copy the result to your minetest mods folder.  Then enable it in the "Configure" screen for the world you want to put it in.
23:12 cprofitt forgot that when I load new mods for the first time I have to go edit that file
23:12 VanessaE_ cprofitt: or do that ^^^
23:12 GroundRaiser Okay let me try that then
23:12 cprofitt its a dedicated server with no GUI
23:12 VanessaE_ once you've done it a couple of times, it makes perfect sense.
23:13 cprofitt not sure I can access the configure screen
23:13 VanessaE_ cprofitt: ah, see I run a custom game on my server, so I never have to mess with world.mt
23:13 VanessaE_ new mods just automatically work
23:13 GroundRaiser there is nothing in the config file...
23:13 cprofitt I should learn how to do that at some point
23:14 cprofitt darn... dyes are still showing unknown item
23:14 GroundRaiser when I try to configure it.... there arent any mods in my thing
23:14 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: nono, not the configuration file.  In the main menu.  Select the world you want to run the mod in, then hit the "Configure" button
23:14 GroundRaiser No no
23:14 GroundRaiser I understand that
23:14 GroundRaiser thats what I mean
23:14 VanessaE_ cprofitt: are you sure your copy of UD is entirely up to date?
23:14 VanessaE_ it depends on latest minetest_game now
23:14 GroundRaiser is there anything else I need to do?
23:14 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: can you show a screenshot of your directory tree where your example mods are stored?
23:15 GroundRaiser ummm ya
23:15 cprofitt VanessaE_: yes, your unified dies are loading properly
23:15 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: it is probably a simple matter of having put them into the wrong folder - that changed recently.
23:15 cprofitt it might be an issue of something with the craft guide...
23:15 VanessaE_ cprofitt: which items are showing as unknown?
23:15 GroundRaiser how do I take a screenshot
23:15 cprofitt I have two pages with dye on it in the craft guide...
23:16 Uberi F12 I believe
23:17 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: you'll have to use your Printscreen key if you're not in the game (F12 doesn't work inside of menus/formspecs)
23:18 cprofitt it is the first page with dyes -- looks like it might be remnants of your old unified dies mod
23:18 GroundRaiser let me try something
23:18 VanessaE_ cprofitt: I can't even begin to guess what the issue is..  These are unknown ITEMS, or are the textures are just missing?
23:18 cprofitt not sure how to clear old stuff from the craft guide
23:18 cprofitt in craft guide they just say unknown items
23:18 VanessaE_ strange
23:18 VanessaE_ I've never used Craft Guide
23:19 * VanessaE_ checks unified inventory's version
23:19 GroundRaiser how do i put it on here for you
23:19 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: upload it to some place like imgur or flickr or so and post the link
23:19 cprofitt I fixed it with a reboot of the server after clearing craft guide of any output
23:20 VanessaE_ cprofitt: is your version of UD the one that uses bottles, or the one that uses little piles of powder?
23:20 VanessaE_ oh ok
23:20 cprofitt little piles of powder -- both of them
23:20 VanessaE_ ok
23:20 VanessaE_ that's the current one
23:20 VanessaE_ hm, HDX's texture for light grey dye is screwed up.
23:21 cprofitt looks like wool is messed up now
23:22 GroundRaiser http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/838/screenshotmy.png/
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23:24 cprofitt what mod does wool come from?
23:24 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: how recent is that copy of minetest?  is that 0.4.6-release?  or is it from git?
23:24 VanessaE_ cprofitt: minetest_game/wool
23:25 GroundRaiser its 4.6
23:25 VanessaE_ no, it's 0.4.6
23:25 VanessaE_ that's the problem
23:25 VanessaE_ move your mods to minetest-0.4.6-2/mods/minetest
23:25 VanessaE_ this will change with 0.4.7, but for now, put them there.
23:25 GroundRaiser i had them there too and nothing happened
23:25 VanessaE_ try anyway :)
23:25 VanessaE_ put them there, then go try to enable them
23:26 VanessaE_ do you have minetest-0.4.6-2/games/minetest_game  ?
23:26 GroundRaiser still nothing
23:26 GroundRaiser yes I have that
23:26 VanessaE_ show me a screenshot of your world list, with the world you're trying to play highlighted (the green bar)
23:27 GroundRaiser which folder do i put it in
23:27 codedevil hi
23:27 codedevil VanessaE_: no traffic on you server?
23:27 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: in 0.4.6-release, they go in minetestfolder/mods/minetest  e.g.    minetestfolder/mods/minetest/technic
23:27 GroundRaiser minetest-0.4.6-2/games/mintest_game/mods? or the mods folder?
23:28 GroundRaiser well it isnt working for any of my worlds
23:28 VanessaE_ you can put them in minetest_game/mods if you want, that'll usually work too, but it's the wrong way to do it
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23:28 GroundRaiser the wrong way how?
23:28 VanessaE_ codedevil: my server doesn't get much play time anyway
23:28 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: it's not the official "right" way is all.
23:30 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: the official way to install a mod is to put in minetest-0.4.x-blah/mods/minetest for 0.4.6-release or older,  or minetest-blah/mods  for anything newer than ~2 weeks ago I guess.
23:30 GroundRaiser ...
23:30 GroundRaiser its not working either way
23:31 VanessaE_ http://dev.minetest.net/Installing_Mods
23:31 VanessaE_ try this.
23:31 Uberi so where do the incense and candles come in? or have I been installing mods all wrong?
23:31 GroundRaiser i have looked through all of that
23:31 VanessaE_ this is the official word on the subject :)
23:31 GroundRaiser thats what I tried
23:32 VanessaE_ ok, now looking at the folder names I do notice that "TNT" is written in uppercase - this is wrong.  Mod names are always lowercase
23:32 GroundRaiser guess it just wont work on mine....
23:32 VanessaE_ nono
23:32 GroundRaiser the other ones wont work either though
23:33 VanessaE_ ok, let's start over
23:33 VanessaE_ you posted:  http://imageshack.us/a/img838/5305/screenshotmy.png
23:33 VanessaE_ this is wrong for starters.
23:33 GroundRaiser okay
23:33 VanessaE_ move money and technic into that minetest folder that's above them
23:33 VanessaE_ delete TNT for now
23:33 Uberi put everything not named minetest into minetest
23:33 GroundRaiser they are in that folder
23:34 VanessaE_ show me a current screenshot then :)
23:34 Uberi can you give us another screenshot?
23:34 GroundRaiser why do I need a screen shot when they are in there?
23:34 VanessaE_ so we can see the overall layout
23:36 GroundRaiser http://i.imgur.com/Wt9mjBS.png
23:37 Uberi excellent
23:37 GroundRaiser ya,,,, still doesnt work
23:37 Uberi I also suggest Mesecons and Worldedit after you get it working :)
23:38 GroundRaiser Ya I have seen the mesecons and it is pretty cool as well but havent seen worldedit
23:39 Uberi you'll really enjoy it if you do a lot of building
23:39 VanessaE_ now here's a question
23:39 VanessaE_ why are there two minetest-0.4.6-w folders?
23:40 VanessaE_ er 0.4.6-2
23:40 GroundRaiser which mod has the crafting guide?
23:40 VanessaE_ you've got minetest-0.4.6-2/minetest-0.4.6-2/mods/minetest/technic (and so forth)
23:40 VanessaE_ are you sure you're even in the right directory for this?  What is the contents of that top-most directory?
23:40 GroundRaiser idk... thats how it came when I downloaded the game
23:41 VanessaE_ that's where the problem is, I'm sure of it
23:41 VanessaE_ you should not have two directories like that
23:41 kaeza as long as there's minetest-0.4.6-2/minetest-0.4.6-2/bin/minetest.exe, everything should work ok
23:42 kaeza but yes
23:42 GroundRaiser I changed it and there is just one directory now
23:42 VanessaE_ kaeza: unless he's executing minetest-0.4.6-2/bin/minetest.exe
23:42 kaeza NEVER use 'Extract archive on own folder' of any archiving program
23:42 VanessaE_ in which case he will never see the mods because they're one directory further down
23:42 GroundRaiser I use that to run the game
23:42 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: which one - his or mine?
23:43 khonkhortisan Only create a folder if there isn't a toplevel one
23:43 VanessaE_ with one or two minetest-0.4.6-2/ in the path?
23:43 GroundRaiser I use /bin/minetest.exe
23:43 GroundRaiser there is only one of them
23:43 VanessaE_ I need to see an 'ls -lR' of his tree, what's the windows equivalent to that?
23:43 GroundRaiser should I just delete everything and reinstall mintest?
23:43 kaeza tree
23:44 kaeza (not sure if it's still supported though)
23:44 kahrl alternatively: dir /s
23:44 VanessaE_ GroundRaiser: it might be best to just delete all copies of minetest and start from scratch
23:44 Exio i need df -h
23:44 Exio ho2 :3
23:44 GroundRaiser alright I will do that really quick
23:44 Exio how2*
23:44 kaeza del C:\Windows\System32
23:45 VanessaE_ nooooooo
23:45 GroundRaiser um no
23:45 GroundRaiser that is retarded
23:45 khonkhortisan ok, just checking.
23:45 VanessaE_ download, unzip but don't try to create a new folder (just let it have the folder it normally extracts into), then install one mod (say, money)
23:45 kahrl move c:\boot\bzImage c:\ntldr
23:46 Exio kahrl: del c:\bin\bash
23:46 Exio :D
23:46 kaeza Exio, nope
23:46 kaeza C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe
23:47 kaeza (or alternatively del C:\MinGW\bin\bash.exe
23:47 kaeza )
23:48 Exio it is a joke
23:48 VanessaE_ holy shit
23:48 GroundRaiser sorry for being so much trouble
23:48 * VanessaE_ watches her rollback log go batshit insane
23:49 VanessaE_ codedevil: what precisely did you just do?
23:49 codedevil VanessaE_: what's up with the server
23:49 kaeza GroundRaiser, no need to be sorry
23:49 codedevil I 0wnd your server maybe? :P
23:49 codedevil is it hanged or something? world stop updating
23:49 GroundRaiser oh okay and its almost extracted
23:50 codedevil VanessaE_: I made water&lava tower, why?
23:50 VanessaE_ restarted the server, without the rollback log, it's more trouble that it's worth
23:51 codedevil we found a bug?
23:51 VanessaE_ sign back in plz
23:52 codedevil ok
23:52 VanessaE_ wtf?
23:53 Uberi water and lava can get pretty slow in certain cases
23:53 VanessaE_ jesus, no wonder the server stalled out
23:54 VanessaE_ it seems fine now without rollback running
23:54 MinerofLands VanessaE_ why not install "lavamod" it doesnt allow lava to be placed over y = 0
23:56 VanessaE_ meh
23:56 GroundRaiser Okay
23:56 VanessaE_ how about someone fix the CPU usage of that code instead?
23:56 MinerofLands there is none
23:56 Uberi VanessaE_: it's rollback related, you say?
23:57 GroundRaiser http://i.imgur.com/z5hqlbk.png
23:57 VanessaE_ Uberi: if I disable rollback, this doesn't cause the server to lag nearly as hard (but it's still using 100% CPU just to move a few hundred liquid blocks around
23:57 GroundRaiser what do i do now
23:57 Uberi VanessaE_: finite liquid?
23:57 VanessaE_ no
23:57 VanessaE_ regular infinite liquids
23:57 Uberi can you WE schem it and gimme a test case?
23:58 khonkhortisan Can't they make lava not flow sideways on air?
23:58 VanessaE_ Uberi: if I could save this out I would, but the server's lagging hard now
23:58 kaeza GroundRaiser, rename xxx-pipewors-xxx to just pipeworks
23:58 kaeza err
23:59 kaeza pipeworks-master
23:59 GroundRaiser what?
23:59 codedevil Im imooortaaaaal
23:59 codedevil is this another bug?
23:59 kaeza GroundRaiser, rename pipeworks-master to just pipeworks
23:59 VanessaE_ codedevil: same bug.  you triggered a horribly inefficient piece of code in the server.
23:59 GroundRaiser same for all of them?
23:59 Uberi codedevil: can you describe the issue?

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