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00:08 kahrl ch98: I googled "rend operator" and found this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/5907078/reverse-iterator-error-no-match-for-operator-in-rcit-stdvector-tp
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00:58 khonkhortisan uh-oh I have a button that crashes VanessaE's server
01:00 VanessaE og?
01:00 VanessaE oh?
01:00 khonkhortisan it's the ghoststone that surrounds my cube
01:00 khonkhortisan right now it's activated with the switch off. If I turn the switch on and off, it crashes.
01:01 VanessaE http://pastebin.com/mGEXdggg
01:01 khonkhortisan huh. I expected the crash to be in the mod
01:01 VanessaE better file a bug against mesecons then
01:02 VanessaE with that ^^^ paste
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01:04 VanessaE (I'll let you file it since you know exactly what it was you built)
01:07 khonkhortisan https://github.com/Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons/issues/105
01:07 VanessaE you should attach screenshots also
01:08 khonkhortisan I'm going to guess I can't dig the button
01:08 VanessaE want me to worldedit-out those objects?
01:08 Kacey bbl maybe
01:12 khonkhortisan At least the activated ghoststone need to go
01:13 VanessaE take some screenshots, go ahead and crash the server again if you need to, then let me know and I'll wipe out the offending blocks.
01:14 khonkhortisan Now I'm confused. It didn't crash.
01:14 VanessaE weird.
01:17 khonkhortisan Okay, so I have a little bit left that's activated. Should I touch it with a switch?
01:17 khonkhortisan maybe the ghoststone is having a problem with unloaded area?
01:18 khonkhortisan The safest thing to do would be to remove all the ghoststone
01:23 VanessaE I have noticed an oddity where sometimes mesecons don't update across block boundaries
01:23 VanessaE didn't used to be the case before.
01:24 khonkhortisan I've had minecarts bounce off boundries :)
01:28 khonkhortisan It crashed twice. Were the messages the same?
01:30 VanessaE yep
01:30 VanessaE stack overflow in all cases.
01:31 VanessaE except...the server's still up?
01:31 khonkhortisan you have it on an auto-restart thing, don't you?
01:31 VanessaE yeah but my client was still loaded, and it's still running
01:31 khonkhortisan you joined after the two crashes
01:31 khonkhortisan I saw the join message
01:32 VanessaE weird
01:32 khonkhortisan maybe it repaired the connection?
01:32 VanessaE client must have auto-reconnected.
01:35 VanessaE or wait,
01:36 VanessaE I did disconnect and reconnect earlier to switch to default textures for a quick check
01:36 VanessaE maybe that's why it was "still" up.  duh :)
01:37 VanessaE now let's go nuke that ghoststone
01:42 bcnjr5 nuke: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7473262336/h6F024482/
01:42 VanessaE there we go, ghoststone deleted.
01:42 khonkhortisan I thought he was going to nuke the website
01:42 VanessaE khonkhortisan: actually this thing isn't having any appreciable effect on fps, at least not so far.
01:42 khonkhortisan ok
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01:43 khonkhortisan I built it out of the way, anyway
01:46 VanessaE it must have been the flowing water in the other one that was doing it
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02:32 MinetestBot GIT: bcnjr5 commited to minetest/minetest: Add Code::Blocks project and build files to .gitignore 64befefcfc 2013-06-02T19:30:59-07:00 http://git.io/Og-fCQ
02:35 VanessaE zzz
02:38 ch98 is there a version of minetest that works better with mac?
02:40 VanessaE not anything that's current, as far as I know.
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02:40 Exio you will end faster by trying to fix those errors with stackoverflow and coding than asking, for now
02:40 Exio sadly for mac os x users
02:41 ch98 ok
02:41 Exio but actually none of the core devs have/owns a mac
02:41 VanessaE bbl
02:42 ch98 All good programmer seems to have newest macs not ppc
02:43 Exio oh
02:43 Exio is it a ppc?
02:43 Exio old mac :P
02:45 ch98 I have a feeling there will be no problem compiling it on any intel macs
02:46 Exio i don't really know
02:48 ch98 it is just that i can not afford one
02:48 Exio why buying a mac then
02:49 ch98 also, only ppc version of minetest i have seen is debian and I hear that only server works
02:49 ch98 because it is almost indistractible
02:49 Exio ?
02:49 ch98 this mac is almost 10 years old
02:50 Exio laptop or desktop?
02:50 ch98 It has never had a hardwhere problem
02:50 ch98 laptop
02:50 Exio my laptop stopped working properly after it crashed to the ground some times
02:51 Exio (netbook, acer aspire one)
02:51 ch98 I droped it accidentally sevelal times
02:51 Exio the only hardware problems i had where "user-caused"
02:51 Exio same here, but the last time i dropped it, well; poor netbook :P
02:52 ch98 I forgot to say about my batterys having about 5 minuts of time fully charged
02:52 ch98 it was 8 hours at start
02:53 ch98 that's what you get for 9 year old battery
02:53 Exio it was 2 hours and half / 3 hours when i bought the netbook, now it is hour and half or two hours depending of the use and the settings; 4 years old battery :P
02:55 ch98 well even an hour is usefull but 5 min is only enough to shut computer down
02:55 Exio i know
02:56 ch98 I wish that other computer never broke
02:56 ch98 but it wasn't mac
02:57 ch98 Is there a reason why we can't use minetest in ppc?
02:58 VanessaE kahrl: "no copy/paste in console (this should be changed anyway)"  <-- how?  I'd love to see that working properly throughout, but I thought this was strictly up to irrlicht?
02:59 ch98 also one reason mac lasts is that there is no screw used outside
03:00 ch98 meaning you can't open it to modify it so it is made to last so they wouldn't have to fix it
03:05 ch98 well, != didn't exist in gcc 4.0.1 mac
03:07 kaeza https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7518836224/hFB4931A8/
03:09 ch98 is there any c and c++ compilars for old macs that is not gcc 4.0.1 or earlyer?
03:09 Exio kaeza: hahaha
03:09 Exio ch98: no idea
03:12 kaeza fak
03:12 Exio wat
03:12 VanessaE what?
03:12 kaeza the no PlayerArgsEnd bug strikes again :(
03:13 VanessaE Exio: amscray - scat - beat it - gtfo, and go do your homework or whatever it was you needed to do :)
03:13 Exio ew
03:13 * Exio is doing that but has highlights to #minetest
03:14 VanessaE you highlight on "fak"? ;)
03:14 Exio .*
03:14 kaeza :D
03:14 VanessaE of all the weird things a person could choose to highlight on, that one takes the cake ;)
03:15 Exio that highlight is a lie
03:15 VanessaE so is the cake ;)
03:16 khonkhortisan Such a simple phrase can do advertising for a game
03:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I've never even played that particular game.
03:17 Exio ^ same
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03:33 kaeza http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mese_(mythology)
03:34 Exio i'm closing the irc, i will be doing the hw and then sleep
03:34 Exio good night
03:34 kaeza night
03:35 VanessaE heh
03:35 VanessaE night Exio
03:39 ch98 downloading gcc 4.3.1
03:55 khonkhortisan and I just got the portal octocat
04:07 khonkhortisan and the map screenshot just happened to catch the ghoststone weirding out
04:07 khonkhortisan and I start sentences with and
04:09 kaeza spammer on forums
04:09 kaeza -.-
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04:26 kaeza 08:22:07: ACTION[ServerThread]:  digs air at (-162,20,49)
04:27 kaeza wat
04:27 VanessaE fixlight?
04:27 VanessaE or an old version of moretrees
04:27 kaeza normal users don't have WE privs
04:27 kaeza I'm not playing, and moretrees isn't there
04:27 VanessaE huh.
04:28 VanessaE those are the only two situations I can think of where one would seem to dig at air.
04:29 kaeza hmm
04:29 kaeza maybe this is related: 08:21:56: ACTION[ServerThread]: A sapling grows into a tree at (-133,23,16)
04:29 kaeza well nope
04:29 VanessaE possibly
04:29 VanessaE or not. :D
04:29 kaeza nearest action: 08:22:07: ACTION[ServerThread]: quadadg damaged by 19 hp at (-161.667,19.519,48.872)
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04:43 khonkhortisan Stackoverflow edits must be at least 6 characters. So they should expect up to 5 characters of fluff at the end of an answer.
04:56 VanessaE bbl, bedtime
04:56 VanessaE night all
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09:00 rubenwardy Hi all!
09:02 Calinou hi
09:02 kaeza hi rubenwardy, Calinou
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09:11 rubenwardy any interesting news?
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09:44 kahrl wow, that's some new kind of spam I just got
09:44 Exio wut?
09:44 kahrl it's in portuguese but it seems they're selling a collection of 512 atari games
09:44 Exio aww
09:49 kaeza I think VanessaE died when she read that
09:49 kaeza (she loves old stuff)
09:50 * kaeza also brags to kahrl about winning the lottery twice
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09:56 kahrl well I got a lot of money from a nigerian king so I never bothered to play the lottery
09:56 Exio i only get viagra :(
09:58 Calinou I don't get any spam :D
09:58 Exio i don't get any spam to my inbox either
09:58 Exio :P
10:01 Exio well, bye
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10:22 rubenwardy qwerty
10:22 rubenwardy WAKE UP EVERYONE
10:22 kaeza asdf
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10:57 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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11:24 rubenwardy Hi
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11:47 VanessaE good morning
11:58 cprofitt good morning
11:58 kaeza mornings
11:58 cprofitt Not near my server now, but curious about one last issue I found
11:59 cprofitt kaeza: thanks for your help the last time
11:59 kaeza oh np
11:59 cprofitt I found that the flowers mod now conflicts with flowers in /usr/
11:59 * VanessaE grumbles ominously at having been woken up by a power blackout >:-(
12:00 VanessaE cprofitt: update your copy of plantlife modpack; get rid of the extra flowers mod.
12:00 cprofitt VanessaE: cool... will do when I get home
12:00 cprofitt thanks.
12:00 cprofitt my 6 and 8 year old were bugging me about it most of the weekend
12:00 cprofitt :-)
12:00 VanessaE heh
12:01 cprofitt they like to make dyes; especially my daughter
12:02 cprofitt VanessaE:  your mods are great by the way...
12:02 VanessaE thanks :)
12:05 * VanessaE looks at the Rasp PI 2.0 and ponders getting one just for shits and grins
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12:06 kaeza VanessaE, google for SNES PI :3
12:06 VanessaE screw that, I'd put a C64 emulator on it ;)
12:06 kaeza hah I know you'd do that
12:06 VanessaE (either that or try to get MT server to run on it :D )
12:06 * kaeza prefers a Speccy emu
12:06 cprofitt I have thought about getting a RasPi too
12:06 cprofitt would like to get the oldest daughter programming with one...
12:07 cprofitt but alas I have not been able to get her interested
12:08 kaeza Scratch can be a nice way to learn programming
12:08 cprofitt Alice can too
12:08 cprofitt I have two 'kid' oriented Python books
12:09 cprofitt My son is trying to teach himself Blender
12:09 VanessaE meh, teach them Lua via minetest :)
12:09 cprofitt I have no clue how to use that, but I will get him a book.
12:11 cprofitt I did some Lua, I think, for Neverwinter Nights
12:12 kaeza back in my days, kids programmed computers by means of punch cards
12:13 VanessaE what, no panels and wires?
12:13 kaeza lol JK
12:13 kaeza not that old
12:13 VanessaE when I got started, we stored stuff on audio cassettes.
12:13 kaeza I grew up with the Speccy
12:14 VanessaE my first was a T/S 1000 actually.
12:14 kaeza (actually, my first "computer" was a Nikita PC-Kid)
12:14 kaeza it was more or less a Famicom with a Keyboard and Mouse
12:16 kaeza with amazing 4KB of RAM :|
12:17 PilzAdam http://dev.minetest.net/Installing_Mods
12:20 kaeza PilzAdam, looks good
12:20 VanessaE seems okay to me
12:23 kaeza PilzAdam, one small suggestion: the wording in "mods are installed per-world" is slightly wrong
12:23 PilzAdam you mean adding a "-"?
12:23 kaeza nono
12:24 kaeza I mean, mods are installed globally
12:24 PilzAdam ah
12:24 kaeza (or per-game)
12:24 PilzAdam fixed
12:24 kaeza that looks better :)
12:25 PilzAdam dont you have an account in the dev wiki?
12:25 kaeza I guess so
12:25 kaeza yep
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12:29 JMR_ Hello
12:30 JMR_ What can you use gold ingots for?
12:31 kaeza gold blocks
12:31 JMR_ & what are they good for?
12:32 VanessaE decorative building?  or of course as currency maybe
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12:33 harrison spasim now has
12:33 harrison documentation partially in esperanto
12:33 harrison https://code.google.com/p/xenoxolotl-spasim/wiki/Klavkombinoj
12:34 PilzAdam harrison, do you post this in all channels? :-p
12:36 harrison "all channels"? you are using the universal quantifier improperly
12:36 harrison kant made the same error
12:36 cprofitt VanessaE: yeah, my first computer was a TI-99/4 not the 'a' variant... and all programs came off an audio cassette
12:36 harrison look at the antimonies in the critique of pure reason
12:37 cprofitt harrison: a fan of Kant, heh?
12:37 cprofitt he was one of my favorites as well.
12:38 harrison well, i like READING kant. i like his style. So as literature, yes
12:38 harrison whereas hegel and so on ... not so much
12:38 cprofitt I studied his works on Ethics mostly
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12:39 cprofitt installing mods looks good... very clear
12:40 harrison have you read schopenhauer's On the Basis of Morality?
12:40 harrison He is very interesting in his analysis of Kant
12:41 harrison And he insults Hegel
12:41 kaeza to whom it may concern: the new sand textures are much better
12:42 PilzAdam ^ VanessaE
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12:43 VanessaE thanks, ph33r my GIMP-fu, etc. ;)
12:43 kaeza lol
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12:45 harrison kierkegaard's 200th birthday was last week
12:50 sfan5 hu
12:51 sfan5 hi*
12:51 VanessaE mornin', sfan
12:51 VanessaE (or afternoon for you I guess ;) )
12:51 sfan5 14:51 for me
12:53 harrison Q. How is a migraine different from anything?
12:54 harrison A. Doing so makes the pain worse.
12:54 cprofitt harrison: I have not read schopenhauer
12:57 kahrl whenever I look at the forum I feel like there are too many stickies in GD
12:58 kahrl I have to scroll down to see new posts
12:58 thexyz too much windows
12:58 thexyz in stickies
12:59 kahrl the builds and install information could be moved to a special-purpose forum
12:59 PilzAdam who stickied "[poll] mintest_classic game mode"?
12:59 kahrl PilzAdam: I was wondering about that too
12:59 thexyz me too
12:59 thexyz VanessaE: ?
13:00 VanessaE not I, as far as I know anyway
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13:04 Exio hi
13:05 VanessaE hey
13:06 Exio what's up?
13:07 VanessaE nothing much
13:07 kahrl github, for now anyway ;)
13:07 VanessaE hah
13:07 kaeza not ompldr
13:08 VanessaE I guess ompldr is dead
13:08 kaeza ^
13:08 VanessaE (and with it, half the community's mods and screenshots :-/
13:08 kaeza yeah :(
13:08 Exio add mirrors in rapidsare
13:08 Exio share*
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13:13 arsdragonfly VanessaE host a 24/7 ftp server maybe :-P
13:13 VanessaE I pay for web space actually.
13:14 arsdragonfly and we all host our mirrors
13:14 VanessaE so unless I totally screw up my local copy, my backups, and github disappears from the face of the earth all at the same time, everything I publish will always be available :-)
13:15 Exio should be "opening" the consule automatic (like closing it with escape)?
13:15 Exio when you open it with t /
13:15 Exio or *
13:15 VanessaE automatic as opposed to what?
13:17 Exio it has a "fast" animation, now
13:17 Exio try opening it with f10 in mt :P
13:19 VanessaE the way it opens seems fine to me as-is
13:20 Exio i mean, in my "branch"
13:20 VanessaE yes
13:20 Exio when you press T or /? kk
13:20 VanessaE your branch seems reasonable; did you figure out yet what I meant about the temporary darkening of the chat background? :)
13:21 Exio i got something working this morning
13:22 kahrl it sounds like it would look slightly weird :P
13:25 VanessaE Exio: let's see it?
13:25 Exio at school atm, sorry :P
13:25 Exio in 3 hours or so
13:25 VanessaE yeah yeah
13:25 VanessaE excuses ;)
13:27 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Call m_menumgr->deletingMenu from quitMenu in addition to destructor 9fe74a34ea 2013-06-03T06:25:48-07:00 http://git.io/5maaGw
13:27 VanessaE \o/
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14:08 kaeza 2013-06-03 18:06:36 (164 MB/s) - `x.png' saved [1946/1946] <-- beat this Calinou!
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14:23 Exio kaeza: 72.4MB/s when downloading http://download.thinkbroad.com/1GB.zip
14:24 Exio when downlading a very small file (<2MB), 174MB/s as "of course" it is fake :>
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14:27 Exio like yours :D
14:36 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Delay deleting replaced textures (m_texture_trash) b89c79e905 2013-06-03T06:50:14-07:00 http://git.io/vznA6Q
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15:47 markveidemanis Can someone come on my server and explain some mods to me?
15:47 VanessaE no.
15:48 VanessaE go read the respective forum threads instead
15:49 Jordach thank you
15:49 kaeza VanessaE, now I found a node. it's infotext was "'s old bones" O_o
15:49 VanessaE heh
15:50 Calinou inb4 someone named "your_mom" dies
15:50 kaeza lol
15:51 VanessaE *grumble*
15:51 kaeza https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_180084051.jpg
15:51 Exio hi~
15:52 VanessaE maybe it was placed manually?
15:53 markveidemanis Who can help me with a nghtclub on my server?
15:53 IceCraft m00
15:53 kaeza also: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/screenshot_179785778.jpg
15:53 Jordach how about do it yourself
15:53 IceCraft Yo Jordach
15:53 kaeza ^ JMR_'s doing
15:53 Jordach sup
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15:54 john_minetest hi Zeg9
15:54 Zeg9 Hello!
15:54 IceCraft Hi Zeg9
15:54 kaeza hi Zeg9
15:55 * IceCraft highfives Zeg9
15:55 * kaeza pings Zeg9 again just becayse
15:55 kaeza cause*
15:55 * IceCraft whois's kaeza just for fun
15:55 kaeza good luck! I'm behind seven proxies!
15:56 kaeza stupid meme ^
15:56 Exio behind a flash proxy over wine
15:56 Exio someone said something similar in other channel
15:56 Zeg9 Flash proxy ? Seriously...
15:56 Exio "you can't know from where i'm connected because i'm behind a flash proxy in windows mode (wine)"
15:57 kaeza ._.
15:57 * john_minetest puts a kitten on Exio's head
15:58 kaeza interesting...
15:58 kaeza I can't dig 's bones
15:59 kaeza and no, manually placed bones have no infotext
16:00 VanessaE time to worldedit it out :)
16:00 kaeza screw that
16:00 Jordach /pset
16:00 Jordach //pset
16:00 Jordach even
16:00 kaeza admin pick!!!1!!1!
16:00 VanessaE //p set
16:00 Jordach i have one there
16:00 Jordach iirc
16:01 kaeza PSET (0, 0), , BF
16:01 * Jordach hears trance in the distanc e
16:01 Exio kill -9 -1
16:01 Jordach distance*
16:01 * kaeza had forgotten about QB until just now
16:02 Exio QB?
16:02 Jordach quickbasic?
16:02 kaeza QuickBasic
16:02 * Exio is not that old
16:02 * kaeza is
16:02 Jordach i got it in one
16:02 Jordach HOLY SHIT
16:03 john_minetest root@linux$~ killall init
16:04 Exio exio4@nex6:~/sources/dev/minetest/build$ sudo kill -9 1
16:04 Exio exio4@nex6:~/sources/dev/minetest/build$
16:04 Exio doesn't work for me
16:05 markveidemanis Minetest lags too much
16:05 markveidemanis It renders what i dont see
16:05 Jordach markveidemanis, thats how most games work afaik
16:06 Zeg9 How do you know it renders it if you dont see it then
16:06 markveidemanis not how minecraft works
16:06 Exio write the raytrac
16:06 Zeg9 minecraft lags worse usually
16:06 Exio ing yourself then
16:06 markveidemanis BECAUSE IT LAGS :)
16:06 Exio markveidemanis: minecraft renders a lot of crap you don't see
16:06 VanessaE LAG != LOW FPS DAMN IT
16:06 Jordach thank you
16:06 Zeg9 VanessaE: +9001
16:06 Exio VanessaE: if the brain is missing, lag == low fps
16:06 Jordach i average 40-50fps with full graphics
16:06 Jordach on OpenGL
16:06 Exio 70-150 here
16:06 Jordach 60+ with DX
16:07 Jordach im on relatively old hardware
16:07 markveidemanis 20-40 with mods
16:07 Jordach mods do not make a fps impact
16:07 markveidemanis Its not the lag im worried about
16:07 VanessaE I average 24 fps near the spawn on my server, around 35 elsewhere (view range of 70, HDX 256px)
16:07 markveidemanis It would be fine with just 20 fps
16:07 VanessaE LAG != LOW FPS DAMN IT
16:07 markveidemanis But the thing is; it changes
16:07 Jordach markveidemanis, your processor is a lappy one
16:08 markveidemanis I have a Quad-Core
16:08 Jordach the centrino one i have gets 60fps
16:08 Jordach CPU doesnt make a shits worth of difference
16:08 hmmmm if you kill init in freebsd it'll dump you back to single user mode
16:08 hmmmm don't think you can kill init in Linux though, it has some sort of special protection
16:08 Exio i can't kill my init
16:08 Exio :(
16:08 Exio hmmmm: yep
16:09 markveidemanis Let me launch minecraft and see
16:09 markveidemanis oh ffs why is everything not compatible with anything in minecraft?
16:10 Jordach bullshit
16:10 Jordach MC just doesnt work on linux
16:10 markveidemanis yes it does!
16:10 markveidemanis JAVA!
16:10 Jordach the only Distro that it works with is Mint
16:10 markveidemanis bullshit
16:11 markveidemanis worked on ubuntu
16:11 markveidemanis and lubuntu
16:11 Exio Jordach: works for me in gentoo and debian
16:11 Jordach Exio, i dont play it anymored
16:11 Jordach -d
16:11 Exio layer 8 problems; i guess
16:11 Jordach and its never worked under XFCE4.X
16:11 Zeg9 it works here
16:11 markveidemanis How much CPU does a minecraft server take?
16:11 Zeg9 a lot
16:12 Zeg9 I hosted one, I had only 50 bukkit plugins but it took 1 whole core.
16:13 Calinou inb4 atom
16:13 Calinou Jordach: it works on xubuntu 13.04 + xfce 4.10 just fine, with and without compositing
16:15 Jordach Calinou, i know markveidemanis uses a lappy
16:16 Exio it works
16:16 Exio in my NETbook
16:16 markveidemanis Its actually not a bad processor
16:16 markveidemanis For A Netbook!
16:16 Jordach http://jordach.tk/
16:17 Jordach .tk parked me until i made a non underconstruction page
16:17 Jordach <- lazy @ html
16:18 khonkhortisan Then you can never change your pag
16:18 khonkhortisan e
16:18 Jordach khonkhortisan, the website is a vps
16:18 kaeza Jordach, just install some blog there
16:18 Jordach !up jordach.tk
16:18 MinetestBot jordach.tk:30000 is up (588ms)
16:18 Jordach see
16:18 VanessaE Jordach: host a minetest-specific replacement for ompldr :)
16:18 kaeza (or wiki or whatever)
16:18 Jordach they restored it after i changed the vps page (which was the apache default)
16:18 kaeza VanessaE, +1
16:19 Jordach VanessaE, no
16:19 khonkhortisan VanessaE, -1
16:19 Jordach its 10gb of space and 2tb of bandwidth
16:19 khonkhortisan VanessaE, yes
16:19 Jordach and im not allowed to distribute viruses
16:19 VanessaE well that at least leaves the votes even ;)
16:19 khonkhortisan even without your knowledge?
16:19 Jordach khonkhortisan, yes
16:20 Exio Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/FMEkbbe.jpg
16:20 Exio <3
16:21 Jordach ew
16:21 Jordach dat WM
16:21 Exio wat
16:22 Exio wfm
16:26 * Zeg9 doesnt see the point of using steam to start minecraft. Maybe I'm too "old-school"...
16:27 Exio it depends what i'm doing
16:27 john_minetest Use Desura!
16:27 kaeza Zeg9, today, you use Steam to start your OS!
16:27 Exio lol kaeza
16:27 Exio john_minetest: i installed steam just for CS/HL
16:28 Zeg9 kaeza: I wonder if there is a steam grub/lilo theme
16:28 john_minetest Exio: I installed it just for Portal 2. It is nice for games, but not the perfect open-source platform.
16:28 Exio lol Zeg9
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16:28 BlockMen kaeza, nope :P
16:29 Exio john_minetest: i have RE and stuff mostly because they look nice(tm)
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16:29 Exio as i use it like half of the time, only when i'm not using my keyboard much
16:29 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/BRuY59h.png
16:29 Jordach <- likes 8px
16:30 kaeza Memory Usage: 99% (126.61 MB of 128 MB Used / 1.39 MB Free) | VSwap Usage: 76% (290.68 MB of 384 MB Used / 93.32 MB Free)
16:30 rubenwardy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwyT_1aNGos
16:31 kaeza doing a 100x100x20 //fixlight :3
16:31 Jordach kaeza, nope
16:31 Jordach mines not even at 30mb of ram
16:31 Exio that looks like host1free or so lol
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16:32 kaeza inb4 VM blows up and I get a nice email from host1free
16:32 john_minetest At least it is just a VIRTUAL blowup...
16:33 kaeza hey shirish
16:33 shirish kaeza: hey
16:33 Jordach the next sentance isnt false
16:33 shirish kaeza: no answer from you on the rpg thing? Anything moving or it's dead ?
16:33 kaeza sentence*
16:33 john_minetest seance*
16:34 VanessaE kaeza: that was fixed in WE git.
16:34 Jordach MESE! http://i.imgur.com/sfHtzew.png
16:34 kaeza shirish, rewrite using SDL
16:34 kaeza *SOON*
16:34 kaeza ™©® etc etc
16:34 VanessaE 100x100x20 fixlight (assuming you mean XxYxZ) becomes 100x1x20 at the top of the region.
16:34 shirish kaeza: would be using SDL 1.2 or 2.0 (soon to be released but when is not known.)
16:35 Calinou Exio: "Redeclipse"... it's Red Eclipse >:(
16:35 Calinou also, dat wallpaper
16:35 * Jordach read it as Red.....
16:35 Jordach i had a swear word there
16:36 Calinou probably Redjordach
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16:36 kaeza shirish, not much yet, but going slowly to not get bored (again)
16:36 Calinou <markveidemanis> Its actually not a bad processor => since when netbooks have quad core CPUs
16:37 Exio it is an apu with hyperthreading >:D
16:37 Jordach my P4 can still kick your ass
16:37 kaeza nothing in github repo yet though
16:37 Calinou Exio: no atom is dual core
16:37 Calinou at least in netbooks
16:39 kaeza VanessaE, actually meant 100x20x100
16:39 kaeza (X,Y,Z)
16:39 kaeza for the spawn
16:40 VanessaE kaeza: in that case, 100x1x100.
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16:41 VanessaE bbl
16:41 kaeza oh shit
16:41 kaeza now it's spamming the debug with " digs x at p"
16:42 kaeza at least it's doing something
16:45 Jordach pavel_s just uploaded the awesome player model
16:45 FreeFull I guess the player is Paul now
16:46 Jordach FreeFull, nah, Sam was decided
16:46 Calinou how about SamPaul
16:47 FreeFull Paulsamm
16:47 kaeza SaulPam
16:48 Warr1024 Sam is nice an unisex.
16:49 Calinou since when sam is unisex
16:49 * rubenwardy might make an internet explorer mod to go along with the air sword mod
16:49 Jordach its useless
16:49 rubenwardy samamtha
16:49 rubenwardy nevermind
16:49 rubenwardy sorry
16:49 rubenwardy http://pastebin.com/0AxTtzuj
16:50 kaeza Calinou, Samantha, Samuel
16:51 kaeza (or simply Sam for both)
16:51 john_minetest Hi rubenwardy.
16:51 rubenwardy Hiya
16:53 Calinou kaeza: ah, ok
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17:00 PilzAdam Zeg9, will you continue drawing textures for MiniTest?
17:00 Zeg9 I don't know. I'm not really motivated.
17:00 * Zeg9 just made his keyboard rumble with a 50Hz sound. And my speaker going forward at 75Hz
17:00 * Zeg9 is bored
17:02 PilzAdam /give Zeg9 life:motivation 9000
17:02 * Zeg9 is making sound experiments.
17:04 kaeza rubenwardy, you good with PHP right?
17:04 rubenwardy hmmm
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17:04 kaeza PM
17:05 owai hi
17:05 owai hi
17:05 Zeg9 hi
17:06 owai Zeg9: I would like to know the control of games (keyboard) to move because the z not work thank you
17:08 Zeg9 try w
17:08 Zeg9 owai: azerty keyboard?
17:09 Zeg9 owai: you can change keys in the settings tab in main menu
17:16 Calinou Zeg9: with a seasonic PSU, you can also move your whole case
17:16 Calinou :> <: :> <: :>
17:16 Zeg9 :D
17:17 Warr1024 Calinou: why seasonic?
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17:18 Calinou seasonic-based PSUs (this includes some from corsair/antec and so on) are known to coil whine
17:18 Calinou :P
17:18 Calinou with some mobos
17:18 Warr1024 ah
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17:26 john_minetest !up minetest.org 30015
17:26 MinetestBot minetest.org:30015 is up (596ms)
17:27 Zeg9 !up trolololololololololololo.com
17:27 MinetestBot trolololololololololololo.com:30000 seems to be down
17:27 Zeg9 !help
17:27 MinetestBot https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/COMMANDS.md
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17:31 Jordach New avatar get! http://forum.minetest.net/profile.php?section=about&amp;id=332
17:32 Jordach oh and, pavel has blown my mind with his skill set
17:33 john_minetest !up Black_Haw.k
17:33 MinetestBot Black_Haw.k:30000 seems to be down
17:33 PilzAdam Jordach, you can see it in the signatures: "I enjoy making Blender Renders" vs. "blender 3d artist." :-p
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17:41 Jordach muahahaha
17:41 Jordach 450kbps .ogg can crash VLC Player
17:42 Jordach i dare not go further
17:44 Exio try with mplayer
17:44 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/SwUvKE0.png
17:44 Jordach Exio, ^
17:44 kaeza ew
17:44 kaeza Windows
17:44 Exio ^
17:44 markveidemanis YUCK! MICROSOFT
17:44 Jordach 80%+ still use it
17:44 kaeza anyway, what Exio said
17:45 markveidemanis 80% of what?
17:45 Exio that doesn't make it better Jordach
17:45 markveidemanis 80% of people use condoms
17:45 markveidemanis doesnt make them good though
17:45 PilzAdam markveidemanis, 80% of 4*Jordach + 1*PilzAdam
17:45 Exio the other 20% are your fathers
17:45 Zeg9 linux is better ! but it is cheaper
17:45 markveidemanis s/but/and
17:45 kaeza ^
17:46 Exio if windows were good i would pay for it
17:46 Exio s/were/was
17:46 markveidemanis Zeg9
17:46 Jordach Exio, win 8
17:46 Jordach its fuckin quick
17:46 Zeg9 markveidemanis
17:46 Zeg9 longer to say
17:46 markveidemanis Can you make your invsee able to edit?
17:46 Exio Jordach: i said good, please
17:46 Jordach Exio, 8.1 has a start button
17:46 Zeg9 Jordach: I don't consider an OS that doesnt shutdown by itself
17:47 * kaeza noticed PilzAdam dropped the "Call me Adam or PilzAdam" part in favor of a link to "how to ask smart questions"
17:47 Zeg9 markveidemanis: implement it yourself, I did already too much
17:47 Jordach yo Pilz
17:47 Jordach >:D
17:47 khonkhortisan why would you want it to shutdown by itself?
17:47 khonkhortisan that's how you lose data
17:47 Zeg9 I mean, when you shutdown it, it actually hibernates.
17:47 PilzAdam kaeza, some things are more important than others
17:47 Zeg9 (from what I've read/heard
17:47 Zeg9 I wont close this parenthesis
17:47 khonkhortisan }
17:48 khonkhortisan ]
17:48 khonkhortisan >
17:48 kaeza PilzAdam, o/
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17:48 PilzAdam o/\o
17:48 khonkhortisan I can hibernate, but it's a text command for now.
17:50 Zeg9 [h some text thats going to annoy you all the day[/h] since you cant close this one
17:50 markveidemanis )
17:52 markveidemanis Anyone wanna get drunk at my cafe?
17:52 markveidemanis i mean bar
17:52 Jordach i'd rather drink my own piss thx
17:52 kaeza Bear Grylls approves
17:52 markveidemanis Sorry i dont have carsleberg
17:52 Jordach ZING
17:53 JMR_ kaeza
17:53 Jordach markveidemanis, thats actually rather funny
17:53 * Zeg9 leaves
17:53 markveidemanis really?
17:53 Zeg9 Bye!
17:53 markveidemanis Lol exit the situation...
17:54 markveidemanis Meh, il add Marijuana
17:54 * PilzAdam slaps markveidemanis
17:54 PilzAdam no drugs!
17:54 markveidemanis Its on ompldr :(
17:54 markveidemanis john...
17:55 kaeza worldedit still running
17:55 kaeza http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m703mj66cb1r48c2co1_400.gif
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17:59 rubenwardy No it does not, zeg9
18:00 rubenwardy Hibernate is another option
18:00 Jordach kaeza, SMOOTH ASS gif
18:01 khonkhortisan What's the opinion on a master skin server?
18:02 rubenwardy unnecessary
18:02 khonkhortisan Where the game loads a skin from there if the player has a forum account and has uploaded/chosen a skin
18:02 rubenwardy unnecessary
18:02 rubenwardy Ask PilzAdam. He has a extremist opinion
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18:02 markveidemanis I need a mod for making a hotel
18:03 markveidemanis i have homedecor
18:03 PilzAdam fuck centralized systems!
18:03 markveidemanis I mean more of systems for security and public access
18:03 PilzAdam rubenwardy, ^ you  mean that?
18:03 rubenwardy yeah
18:04 rubenwardy Now go blow up khonkhortisan's house for suggesting it
18:04 khonkhortisan Good luck finding it - it's on gameboom
18:04 rubenwardy khonkhortisan: https://github.com/rubenwardy/Minetest-Avatar-Forum
18:05 rubenwardy Old and outdated
18:05 markveidemanis I cant click on buttons that are obstructed by adjascent text from chat
18:05 khonkhortisan me neither
18:05 khonkhortisan I type something really long and can't get more creative stone
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18:06 webdesigner97 hi
18:06 rubenwardy Hi!
18:06 webdesigner97 Doesn't minetest.get_player_by_name() exists in 0.4.6?
18:06 webdesigner97 It says it is a nil value
18:06 rubenwardy Shall we do a "hi" snipping tournement again?
18:07 rubenwardy w97: It works for my
18:07 rubenwardy *me
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18:07 markveidemanis webdesigner
18:07 rubenwardy You sure <name> is not nil, and is a string?
18:07 markveidemanis Join my server, theres some more stuff
18:07 webdesigner97 mark, i can't today :8 I'm writing an important mod
18:07 webdesigner97 :(
18:08 webdesigner97 ruben, my code:
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18:08 webdesigner97 http://pastebin.com/kgwbuaxJ
18:08 webdesigner97 line 17
18:09 kaeza webdesigner97, what is the actual error message?
18:09 khonkhortisan hi
18:10 webdesigner97 attempt to call field 'get_player_by_name' (a nil value)
18:10 kaeza lol
18:10 kaeza as I suspected
18:10 webdesigner97 ?
18:10 kaeza minetest.env:get_player_by_name() ?
18:10 rubenwardy webdesigner97: try minetest.env:get
18:10 rubenwardy meh
18:10 rubenwardy too slow
18:10 webdesigner97 ah, API says "minetest.get_player_by_name", but this is for 0.4.7!
18:11 webdesigner97 so this could work
18:11 rubenwardy lolage
18:12 webdesigner97 thx
18:12 kaeza np
18:12 kaeza you should keep using the .env: notation for some time
18:12 kaeza (at least until 0.4.7 is released and adopted)
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18:17 Exio use .
18:17 Exio the : is deprecated
18:18 * ShadowNinja got a Rasbery Pi, running Arch Linux ARM on it now.
18:20 sfan5 !g Rasbery Pi
18:20 MinetestBot sfan5: http://www.raspberrypi.org/
18:21 sfan5 ShadowNinja: you can play Minecraft on it
18:21 rubenwardy dont be stupid, Exio
18:21 rubenwardy table:function() is the same as table.function(self)
18:21 rubenwardy where self = table
18:21 ShadowNinja sfan5: Yes, I know, I don't know if I will even install a GUI on it.
18:22 ShadowNinja Probably eventualy, but not now.
18:22 MinetestBot GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Add and implement setting max_clearobjects_extra_loaded_blocks. e988df0fbd 2013-06-03T11:09:32-07:00 http://git.io/imtqZw
18:22 webdesigner97 gtg now
18:22 Jordach dafuq
18:22 webdesigner97 bye
18:22 ShadowNinja /clearobjects got fixed?
18:22 Jordach interesting: vista wont sync my ipad and it crashes everytime
18:23 kahrl ShadowNinja: yes!
18:23 kahrl at least the runaway memory consumption
18:23 ShadowNinja \o/
18:23 Jordach but i then repair apple mobile device support and it just magically works
18:23 ShadowNinja This full system updrade is going to take a while...
18:24 Jordach ShadowNinja, i hate upgrading OSes
18:24 markveidemanis i need food
18:24 markveidemanis [mod]
18:24 Jordach i have to make *sure* everything is moved
18:24 markveidemanis something for a bar
18:24 ShadowNinja Jordach: No, pacman -Syu.
18:25 ShadowNinja Although I did that a while ago when I switched to Arch.
18:25 khonkhortisan zypper dup
18:26 ShadowNinja 15/104...
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18:26 ShadowNinja The CPU/RAM isn't the best, but it should do fine for what I want it for.
18:27 RealBadAngel hi minetesters
18:27 RealBadAngel howdy?
18:27 khonkhortisan hi testminer
18:30 Jordach were called Sam
18:30 ShadowNinja Hmmm, I don't have a TTY2. Where do I get that?...
18:30 Jordach testminer = Sam
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18:34 Jordach PilzAdam, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=93180#p93180
18:34 Jordach edit it and put fatality under it :)
18:36 ShadowNinja 36/104...
18:37 Jordach ShadowNinja, dafuq are you doing
18:37 ShadowNinja Jordach: Full system upgrade (pacman -Syu) on my new Rasbery Pi.
18:37 Jordach ah
18:37 rubenwardy as in this, PilzAdam: http://i.imgur.com/uZMwyMc.png
18:38 rubenwardy Jordach, can you make that into a screensaver?
18:38 ShadowNinja How can ncurses take a minute?
18:38 rubenwardy sorry, Desktop Image
18:38 PilzAdam ^ Jordach, make this with pavel's and your model
18:38 rubenwardy Background
18:38 Jordach PilzAdam, that could take five mins
18:38 Jordach i could recut steves head out
18:38 Jordach and create a new model
18:38 MinetestBot GIT: ffrogger _zero_ at yahoo dot com commited to minetest/minetest: Corrected segfault when registering new biomes. 601ab85226 2013-06-03T11:35:51-07:00 http://git.io/TOGDRQ
18:39 Jordach in place of Stu's Steve
18:39 Jordach Sam*
18:39 Jordach but its twenty to 8pm so no
18:43 markveidemanis I need a readable menu for my bar
18:43 markveidemanis Anyone wanna see my bar?
18:44 PilzAdam markveidemanis, stop it. now.
18:46 * ShadowNinja has twelve port forwards. Delete, delete.
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18:54 rubenwardy_ bye all
18:57 Exio RealBadAngel: !!!! ;P
18:57 Exio what's up?
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19:00 kaeza the sky...dome?
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19:21 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.6 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | STATUS: http://servers.minetest.net/ | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/
19:22 Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net | NEWS: Minetest 0.4.6 released | RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels | CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev | STATUS: http://servers.minetest.net/ | IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/
19:22 Calinou slightly shorter topic :p
19:41 Warr1024 ll
19:42 Exio +o
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19:42 khonkhortisan My skin stopped working when I doubled the resolution.
19:43 Calinou huh?
19:43 khonkhortisan The face went to the shirt, the comment went to the hair
19:43 khonkhortisan the uv mapping is using the corner of the larger image
19:45 Calinou woo!
19:46 Calinou using GMOOH potions I got the horn of plenty
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19:47 * Calinou encountered a wood pony
19:47 Calinou doesn't seem to do anything :P
19:49 RealBadAngel hehe
19:49 RealBadAngel somebody wants good developed candies account?
19:51 khonkhortisan How do I tell minetest my character skin is larger?
19:51 Calinou aww, almost finished Hell
19:51 Calinou died at the devil
19:51 khonkhortisan you were already dead
19:51 RealBadAngel with ghost use imps
19:51 RealBadAngel ghosts cant kill the imp
19:51 Calinou ah, cool
19:52 Calinou I have 1765 HP :P
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19:52 Calinou RealBadAngel, where do you get the candy equivalent of the horn of plenty? there is one afaik
19:52 RealBadAngel i do have over 3,5k
19:53 RealBadAngel its an Old Amulet
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19:53 RealBadAngel i think you can get it only on castle stairs
19:54 john_minetest RealBadAngel: Your candy level is not "OVER 9000!!!" So there is a way this could be right.
19:54 RealBadAngel hehe
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19:55 RealBadAngel my advantage is that i do run candies on a box that is never turned off
19:56 RealBadAngel i just upgraded sword of life to lev 23
19:57 RealBadAngel but next level of "more candies" is a horror
19:57 RealBadAngel 207360klp
20:00 proller use firebug 8)
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20:01 * Calinou looks at code for old amulet
20:02 Calinou nope
20:05 Calinou nope? searched in all quest code
20:05 RealBadAngel old amulet triples candies production
20:06 Calinou oh, it'd in castle keep
20:06 Calinou it's*
20:06 RealBadAngel ah sorry
20:06 RealBadAngel indeed
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20:07 RealBadAngel the level with dragon
20:09 Calinou got the amulet and unicorn horn :D
20:13 Calinou aw, the devil had 12 HP left and I died
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20:36 * VanessaE is back
20:37 Calinou wb
20:38 sfan5 good night
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20:46 khonkhortisan terminate called after throwing an instance of 'con::ConnectionBindFailed'
20:46 khonkhortisan what():  Failed to bind socket (port already in use?)
20:46 khonkhortisan I had a server and client, and tried to bring up a second client when I got that
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21:33 MinetestBot GIT: stujones11@server.fake commited to minetest/minetest: Fix multiple texture support for animated meshnodes. 649dca4d16 2013-06-03T14:31:08-07:00 http://git.io/V5gkvw
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23:07 VanessaE jeez what a slow day.
23:08 khonkhortisan VanessaE, have you had any success with HDX player skins?
23:11 VanessaE sure, I've used a couple of them, but I haven't made any for HDX texture pack
23:11 kaeza It's Monday
23:11 kaeza what can you expect?
23:11 kaeza worst day of the week
23:12 VanessaE yeah yeah
23:13 VanessaE excuses ;)
23:16 khonkhortisan When I double the size of the image, I get the face as the shirt.
23:17 VanessaE strange
23:18 khonkhortisan it's only using the first 64x32 of the 2x scaled 128x64
23:18 VanessaE you're not having problems with the PNG canvas offset are you?
23:18 khonkhortisan I think it's a scale problem instead of an offset?
23:19 VanessaE I dunno what the issue is, this used to work before
23:20 VanessaE I know of at least one skin on my server that's HD and it worked perfectly the last time someone signed on with it
23:20 * VanessaE tests
23:24 VanessaE yep, it works fine for me
23:25 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/Screenshot%20-%2006032013%20-%2007:24:53%20PM.png
23:25 VanessaE that's with git as of last night.
23:26 VanessaE vanessa@rainbird:~$ file .minetest/games/vanessae_game/mods/player_textures/textures/player_testuser.png
23:26 VanessaE .minetest/games/vanessae_game/mods/player_textures/textures/player_testuser.png: PNG image data, 1024 x 512, 8-bit colormap, non-interlaced
23:29 VanessaE care to link me to the file you're using so I can have a look?
23:34 VanessaE got it.
23:36 * VanessaE looks
23:38 khonkhortisan http://postimg.org/image/99queaeoz/
23:38 VanessaE oh wait
23:38 VanessaE that's why
23:38 khonkhortisan what?
23:38 VanessaE ditch the wielditem mod.
23:38 khonkhortisan oh
23:39 VanessaE that mod doesn't work with anything other than default-sized skins
23:39 khonkhortisan but I like it :(
23:39 VanessaE what's with the blue dots all over?  ran?
23:39 VanessaE rain*
23:39 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91815#p91815
23:39 khonkhortisan yep, and vertical rain at that.
23:39 VanessaE now that said, ^^^^^^^
23:39 VanessaE this might fix the issue
23:41 VanessaE I guess the needed code is already in minetest git, so now it needs an updated mod.
23:43 khonkhortisan Or maybe git pull;make will solve all my problems
23:43 VanessaE doubt it.
23:43 VanessaE the armor/wielditem mod is known to not work properly with anything but standard skins
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23:53 khonkhortisan unified skins breaks larger skins when combined with any of wielditems, 3d_armor, more_armor (which make unified skins stop doing nothing)
23:53 khonkhortisan Well, it was fun while it lasted.
23:53 khonkhortisan The point was, I increased the resolution of the skin so I could draw a fist holding the wielded pickaxe. But they can't be used together.
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23:55 kaeza dat feeling when rollback works flawlessly
23:55 kaeza another day, another ban
23:56 VanessaE heh
23:57 khonkhortisan I'm using modmenu so I can have both UI and Iplus, now I just need a button in UI to go to modmenu so I don't need /m

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