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00:19 * STHGOM (sparky@STHGOM.IRC) has left (Quit: Went back from whence I came)
00:21 STHGOM did that look convincing?
00:23 STHGOM no?
00:27 kaeza [21:27:01] * [STHGOM] (~sparky@71-13-157-143.static.ftbg.wi.charter.com): realname
00:27 kaeza so no
00:27 kaeza also, most clients color-code join/leave lines in some way
00:28 kaeza BTW, interesting reading: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
00:30 PilzAdam TL;DR Ill read it tomorow
00:32 PilzAdam kaeza, just looking a but over it, seems like we have to link this everywhere
00:32 kaeza hah yeah
00:32 PilzAdam a bot that posts this link every 5 minutes and kicks everyone that doesnt click it here would be good
00:33 kaeza in particular, certain recet postr on the forums merits a this link: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#urgent
00:33 kaeza -a
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00:34 kaeza WTF did I write? O.o
00:36 PilzAdam "We've found by experience that people who are careless and sloppy writers are usually also careless and sloppy at thinking and coding"
00:36 PilzAdam I.... I.... I cant even... I cant even tell how true that is
00:37 * kaeza points at jojoa
00:37 kaeza bleh
00:38 PilzAdam "I am familiar with the technical terms, but some slang expressions and idioms are difficult for me." <- I generally treat everyone according to this
00:39 PilzAdam (because thats the way I want to be treated"
00:39 kaeza it depends
00:40 kaeza probably related: http://faildesk.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/movie-hacking-vs.-real-hacking.gif
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00:41 PilzAdam "Volume is not precision" /me has seen some posts that repeated the same sentence over and over again
00:46 PilzAdam http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#not_losing
00:47 PilzAdam ^ tell that the post blankers
00:48 PilzAdam bye
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00:58 jcontra-afk PilzAdam: Are you around?
00:58 jcontra-afk ahh, just missed him...
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01:14 jcontra is there any way to force a mob to spawn for testing purposes?  like with a console?
01:30 kaeza /spawnentity?
01:52 kaeza speaking of the king of rome: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92292#p92292
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02:34 unga22 hi people!
02:34 unga22 anyone there, i want to join a server
02:34 unga22 and always stay in "conecting to server"
02:35 kaeza unga22, which server?
02:35 unga22 or -"waiting content"
02:35 unga22 all servers
02:35 kaeza bad connection then
02:35 kaeza you'll have to wait
02:36 Exio kaeza: In Web forums, do not abuse “smiley” and “HTML” features (when they are present). A smiley or two is usually OK, but colored fancy text tends to make people think you are lame. Seriously overusing smileys and color and fonts will make you come off like a giggly teenage girl, which is not generally a good idea unless you are more interested in sex than answers.
02:36 unga22 im minecraft (JAVA) server onwer and developer. I saw this... and this is realy REAL AWESOME.
02:36 unga22 im triying this server: wazuclan.com
02:36 Exio i just bookmarked that link
02:37 * kaeza 's notification message is OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!! pixels tall
02:37 Exio haha
02:39 kaeza unga22, wazuclan is up
02:40 unga22 yeah finally! Thank you!
02:40 kaeza unga22, also, try irc.wazuclan.com #minetest
02:40 unga22 Ok!
02:41 kaeza derp... webchat
02:41 kaeza you'll need a real IRC clientâ„¢
02:44 kaeza of fuck
02:44 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92295#p92295
02:46 Exio there should be a thing like only "Members and up" or so
02:46 Exio and making members accounts with more than, no idea, 15 days in the forum :P
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02:59 kaeza http://cheezburger.com/7498234624
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03:49 ecube is enter_area built in to minetest's lua API?
03:49 ecube and leave_area
04:00 Miner_48er Is thier a way to make a exceptions list of usernames to ip bans?
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04:02 Miner_48er for shared ips
04:28 kaeza wts is dis...I don't even http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=92298#p92298
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04:43 ch98 hello, does anyone know how to use this thing?
04:44 ch98 am i using it right?
04:44 Miner_48er yes
04:46 ch98 now, who here beleves compiling minetest in mac ppc is possible and have knowledge to help?
04:47 Miner_48er thexyz
04:51 ch98 does he have forum account?
04:52 kaeza he is there --------->
04:52 kaeza or maybe in bed
04:52 kaeza who knows
04:52 kaeza also, xyz on the forums
04:53 ch98 I can't make sence of error message in xcode
04:54 ch98 also, some good developers said this is impossible to do so it is on offtopic just in case
04:56 ch98 so does people keep this window allways open so they can be logged in 24 hours a day?
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04:57 kahrl some do
04:57 ch98 Or is there a softwhere for doing this other than web browser.
04:57 kahrl google irc clients
04:58 ch98 it is amazing how there computer don't burn up overnight.
04:59 kahrl they have a working cooling system :P
04:59 ch98 I only have old ppc mac left after my computer broke down
05:00 ch98 right after i upgraded to ubuntu 13.04
05:00 kahrl sounds more like a downgrade then
05:01 kahrl can't you restore from a backup?
05:01 ch98 but computer don't even turn on so no way to downgrade
05:02 ch98 maybe it is dusty cpu like last time
05:03 ch98 also that 5 year old computer runs slower than this 9 year old mac laptop
05:03 ch98 only if i can play minetest on it.
05:04 khonkhortisan You can run a computer a year without restarting it, including installing stuff.
05:04 khonkhortisan It's just a little difficult to change the kernel/graphics drivers
05:05 khonkhortisan but userspace programs should never require a restart.
05:06 kaeza khonkhortisan, tell that to Bill Gates
05:06 ch98 not if it has few broken fans, dusty cpu, and is 5 year old one that i fixt by sodering new capaciters on
05:07 ch98 it was my forst successful sodering too.
05:07 ch98 first
05:08 ch98 it needs restert every few hours at bad times
05:10 kaeza http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UqUwVPikChs/S_5ebHqyRpI/AAAAAAAANj8/xi1B4dX_D3k/s1600/funny-windows-error5.jpg
05:11 ch98 it is ubuntu but computer is not mac. only problem for that computer is that it is not mac
05:12 khonkhortisan I'd tell him that and to not call me administrator when I disable the task manager
05:18 ch98 how do you use other softwhere to connect to here?
05:25 kaeza http://hexchat.org
05:26 ch98 I will try a softwhere i found
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05:27 kaeza that worked
05:27 ch98 ok that was good
05:28 ch98 using xchat aqua
05:28 kaeza specifically X-Chat Aqua 0.16.0 (xchat 2.6.1) Darwin 8.11.0 [Power Macintosh/999.00MHz]
05:28 khonkhortisan I'm using xchat
05:29 kaeza and don't even try to CTCP VERSION me
05:29 sfan5 oh nice
05:29 ch98 what is ctcp?
05:29 kaeza hey sfan
05:30 khonkhortisan /ctcp khonkhortisan VERSION
05:30 khonkhortisan VERSION xchat 2.8.8 Linux 3.4.42-2.28-desktop [x86_64/2.80GHz/SMP]
05:31 ch98 so it is a command like in minetest server
05:31 khonkhortisan yes, except it only works in irc
05:31 khonkhortisan it's also like a terminal command
05:33 ch98 what does "Send a File" botten do?
05:33 khonkhortisan exactly what it says, but both clients have to support it, and the other end has to accept.
05:35 ch98 is it ok with big files?
05:35 khonkhortisan dunno
05:36 ch98 should we experiment?
05:36 khonkhortisan how big 'we talkin'?
05:37 ch98 biggest file i have is 900 mb
05:38 ch98 just delete it because it is meaningless file
05:38 ch98 can i send it?
05:38 khonkhortisan sure
05:39 khonkhortisan "dd if=/dev/zero of=largefile.zeroes bs=1024 count=10240"
05:39 ch98 how do we agree?
05:40 khonkhortisan I got a popup, with abort/accept/resume/open folder buttons.
05:41 khonkhortisan it doesn't seem to be doing anything
05:41 khonkhortisan either way
05:42 ch98 well, it is ok if it doesn't work
05:43 ch98 there is other better ways.
05:44 ch98 good night. it is 10:45 here. time to read in bed.
05:45 ch98 help me on compiling minetest in ppc mac at forum offtopic.
05:45 ch98 bye
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06:47 thexyz okay, aluminium ingots were okay but now they're spamming me about "Titanium products"
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07:50 kaeza random: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/Captura%20de%20pantalla%20de%202013-05-29%2004%3A49%3A06.png
07:51 Calinou "caves" is a flag too
07:51 kaeza it's WIP
07:51 Calinou -1 for ugly menus :p
07:52 kaeza BTW, it's in python+Tkinter+Tix
07:53 kaeza it's meant as a frontend for minetest
07:53 kaeza with multiple profiles and all that shit
07:55 kaeza just wanted to make something useful while learning how Tkinter works :P
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08:19 markveidemanis Hello Everyone!
08:20 Calinou hi
08:21 kaeza hi PilzAdam
08:21 kaeza woops
08:21 Calinou :-)
08:28 markveidemanis Sorcery!
08:39 markveidemanis Can i not go above chanserv?
08:40 Calinou fix your client's user list sorting
08:41 Calinou mine shows ops first, then voices, then normal users alphabetically sorted
08:41 Calinou ChanServ is first most of the time
08:45 markveidemanis yep
08:45 markveidemanis unless op with AAA
08:45 markveidemanis gtg, CINEMA
08:45 markveidemanis IRL not mesecons :)
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09:25 MoNTE Hello
09:25 MoNTE I need help.
09:26 Guest62062 Not so long ago, I saw screenshots of ships on Star Trek Online. I am looking for them and a map.
09:26 StarBlessed Minecraft I think
09:26 StarBlessed Or are you talking about the pics from the front of minetest.net website?
09:27 Guest62062 No. I was crossing the main Minetest, if I'm not mistaken
09:27 Guest62062 Yes. Online minetest.net had these photos.
09:27 StarBlessed Search the forums
09:27 Guest62062 No results ...
09:27 StarBlessed But I think it was on an older version.  Some of the older versions of maps dont import well
09:28 Guest62062 Help to find. I love these movies, I would like to do in these ships in the void and build sections, like in the movies. From the beginning I did not build ships ...
09:29 kaeza mauvebic did some conversions of ST models (and some British ships)
09:29 kaeza though I don't think those are available anymore
09:29 Guest62062 And I find it?
09:30 Guest62062 It is a pity. I would have at least one world ...
09:30 StarBlessed you know, if you build one from scratch, there would be HEAPS of people who would want a copy.  Perhaps even a few who would help
09:30 kaeza seems the mod is gone :/
09:30 kaeza http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5174
09:31 kaeza ^ thexyz, is there a possibility you have a backup of that?
09:32 Guest62062 As we can see, the idea is to build a ship do not get inside the
09:33 kaeza ugh... the wayback machine does not have a copy :/
09:33 Guest62062 It is a pity. Then do not occupy your time ...
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10:42 * arsdragonfly didn't know s/a/b/ comes from vim until today
10:44 arsdragonfly any news about 0.4.7?
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10:47 john_minetest what is s/a/b?
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10:53 FreeFull john_minetest: text substitution
10:53 FreeFull replaces a with b
10:53 FreeFull Well he left
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10:58 kaeza well, that goes for those who believed in a site "powered by donkeys" or some shit like that
10:59 kaeza ompldr is down
10:59 kaeza indefinitely it seems
10:59 FreeFull s/a/b/ isn't even from vim, it's from ed
10:59 FreeFull Which is vim's grandfather or something
10:59 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:59 kaeza hey Adam
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11:31 Jordach its official: i've named the player Sam
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11:31 Jordach (my skin, my name!)
11:31 sfan5 hello
11:32 sfan5 hi Jordach
11:37 PilzAdam Jordach, strange... its still called character.png for me
11:38 * Jordach slaps PilzAdam
11:38 Jordach by that rule MC Steve's name is char.png
11:38 * PilzAdam gives Jordach his slap bacl
11:38 PilzAdam *back
11:38 FreeFull what's MC? You mean Minecraft.jar?
11:38 Jordach yes
11:39 FreeFull Ok, < Jordach>
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11:43 kaeza Jordach, \o/
11:43 kaeza that name has been around indefinitely
11:43 kaeza (in unofficial form)
11:48 Jordach * arsdragonfly didn't know s/a/b/ comes from vim until today http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3y3QoFnqZc
11:49 kaeza stupid modem
11:49 Jordach kaeza, buy a better line
11:49 Jordach <- has 8mbps broadband
11:50 Calinou you can't
11:50 Calinou I have 3.7/0.3 mbit, even if I asked my ISP I can't have better
11:50 Calinou the end
11:50 Calinou they're putting optic fiber, but they are very late
11:50 Calinou they promised march, then may ;)
11:50 Calinou it feels like AMD is my ISP
11:51 kaeza blah now the bouncer is putting a '+' in front of every message
11:51 kaeza brb
11:52 FreeFull ed is actually still useful
11:52 jin_xi ed is the standard editor
11:52 FreeFull You can use it with a dumb terminal
11:52 FreeFull And you can use it to make text editing scripts
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11:54 Jordach http://www.speedtest.net/result/2738770454.png
11:54 FreeFull Actually, it seems to be even older than ed
11:54 FreeFull qed had it
11:55 Jordach FreeFull, you should become a historian
11:55 kaeza Jordach, http://www.speedtest.net/result/2738772549.png
11:56 Jordach > Faster than 61% of xxx
11:56 Jordach JESUS CHRIST
11:56 Jordach I must be A* there :)
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11:57 kaeza notbad.jpg
11:57 kaeza but this crappy thingy keeps disconnecting every half an hour :(
11:57 kaeza probably some misconfig, dunno
11:58 Jordach kaeza, is it wifi
11:58 kaeza 3G
11:58 Jordach ah
11:58 Jordach as in, is the router using wifi to connect to, or is this a dongle
11:58 kaeza a Huawei USB dongle
12:02 * sfan5 haz the best ping: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2738782274.png
12:03 PilzAdam Telekom oO
12:03 sfan5 yes, ik that telekom is bad
12:04 PilzAdam well, Kabel Deutschland is even worse
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12:04 sfan5 really?
12:04 PilzAdam yes
12:04 sfan5 I thought they were better
12:04 PilzAdam it is really slow, the W-Lan router they send us breaks every few months
12:04 PilzAdam the support is shit
12:04 sfan5 ^ same
12:05 sfan5 out router is half-broken
12:05 sfan5 I remove some computer from the list and it deletes half of the port forwarding rules
12:05 PilzAdam my father has a business packet from telekom at this office and says its quite good
12:05 PilzAdam *his
12:06 sfan5 o.O
12:11 Jordach blue marker is where i live: http://i.imgur.com/TqknJMn.jpg
12:11 FreeFull sfan5: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2738797531.png  Same ping, about the same upload, better download
12:12 sfan5 FreeFull: the telekom didn't put a good enough cable into my street
12:12 Jordach wait what
12:12 Jordach FreeFull == brit
12:12 Jordach high five
12:12 sfan5 I should have 16 mbps, but only get 7
12:12 FreeFull I'm actually a Polish immigrant
12:12 Jordach goddamit
12:13 FreeFull I've lived in England for 7 years now
12:13 Jordach <- 17
12:13 Jordach been here my whole life!
12:13 FreeFull I'm 19 years old
12:16 amboss im a little girl
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12:51 kaeza <--- 25 :3
12:51 * kaeza feels old :(
12:52 * kaeza is also exactly 8 years older than Jordach
12:57 whirm kaeza: I'm 31 if that makes you feel better :)
13:04 kaeza :)
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13:11 Jordach * PilzAdam (~PilzAdam@77-21-146-86-dynip.krapkabel.de) has joined
13:12 PilzAdam ?
13:12 Jordach <PilzAdam> well, Kabel Deutschland is even worse
13:12 PilzAdam oh, now I see it
13:14 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/Nae8tu3.jpg
13:17 Jordach i should *really* trim the ID3 Tag data for these albums
13:17 Jordach they take 5 seconds to load
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13:40 sfan5 Jordach: halp! how do i disable texture blurring in blender?
13:41 Jordach sfan5, User Settings
13:41 sfan5 where exactly
13:42 Jordach File > User Prefs
13:42 Jordach hit system tab
13:42 Jordach disable mip maps
13:44 sfan5 Jordach: doesn't work
13:47 sfan5 still looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/abYW5Z4.png
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13:57 rubenwardy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLsY0y0SfP0
13:57 kaeza sfan5, under "properties panel"
13:58 kaeza texture button, "image sampling" panel
13:58 kaeza uncheck "MipMap"
13:59 sfan5 kaeza: Mip map didn't have any effect, also needed to uncheck "Interpolation"
14:00 kaeza that works too :P
14:00 kaeza (my texture had that disabled somehow)
14:01 * ShadowNinja peeks in
14:01 * Calinou is converting his 34 candies/sec into lollipops
14:01 Calinou 34% faster than not doing it, but I can't eat the candies
14:01 Calinou I have 1549 HP already :P
14:01 * kaeza beat the developper[sic]
14:02 Calinou already? still stuck at hell :/
14:02 * ShadowNinja has been mostly active on his IRC network.
14:02 kaeza HP: NaN/NaN :|
14:02 Calinou that's javascript
14:02 kaeza it was funny fighting against myself
14:02 ShadowNinja Calinou: 1700, I have been converting those for a while.
14:02 kaeza at least the first three hours or so :|
14:03 ShadowNinja But I get 55/sec now.
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14:06 ShadowNinja Also: 4 servers + services on my network now, and annother to come. :-)
14:09 markveidemanis Calinou
14:09 markveidemanis candies.SetNbrOwner = NUMBER.POSITIVE_INFINITY
14:10 Calinou I know, I'm playing legit
14:14 ShadowNinja markveidemanis: I set candies.candiesPerSecond to something realy high once for fun, but I didn't even bother saving it.
14:14 thexyz kaeza: there is
14:15 markveidemanis http://candies.aniwey.net/index.php?pass=ads20
14:16 markveidemanis http://candies.aniwey.net/index.php?pass=wmdi0 This is the hacked one
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14:29 sfan5 markveidemanis: your hacked one now has 0 candies
14:30 markveidemanis :(
14:30 markveidemanis would i really give you the password of my game?
14:30 markveidemanis anyway its 2 simple commands
14:31 markveidemanis I need some help with the prison on my server
14:31 markveidemanis I am having trouble with the vault doors
14:32 markveidemanis Keep dying when i fall down :D
14:33 RealBadAngel i do have over 3400 hp
14:33 RealBadAngel 100klp candies eaten
14:34 RealBadAngel You have eaten 99832131 candies!
14:35 RealBadAngel sword level 17, next level of candy upgrade is at 207360klp
14:36 kaeza seems legit
14:36 RealBadAngel *1000kklp eaten
14:36 RealBadAngel or 100? im tired ;)
14:36 kaeza you ate 1000 kilo lollipop candies? O.o
14:36 markveidemanis sfan5
14:36 rubenwardy My random video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLsY0y0SfP0
14:37 markveidemanis Can you hack it and eat a massive amount?
14:37 RealBadAngel 99832131 candies!
14:37 RealBadAngel precisely
14:37 sfan5 markveidemanis: yes
14:37 kaeza > lollipop candies
14:37 kaeza > lollipop
14:37 kaeza > candies
14:37 kaeza > O.o
14:38 kaeza just messing a bit with ya
14:38 RealBadAngel candies, candies of course
14:38 kaeza :P
14:38 RealBadAngel my machine is always on
14:38 Calinou RealBadAngel: isn't the limit 2000HP?
14:38 RealBadAngel so candies and lollipops grow all the time
14:39 Calinou someone said it was
14:39 RealBadAngel no it isnt
14:39 kaeza Calinou, .avi
14:39 Calinou also, I don't 24/7, not wasting power for a game :P
14:39 kaeza I have 2200 or so in my legit save
14:39 Calinou kaeza: here's your lollipop-flavored lollipop!
14:39 Calinou 1549 HP
14:39 Calinou 19mlp right now :3
14:39 Calinou need 30.25mlp for faster candies
14:40 kaeza Calinou, faster candies is a waste of candies IMHO
14:40 kaeza you only get ~10 increase in income
14:40 kaeza uhh... not even that I guess
14:41 Calinou usually it's 50%
14:41 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/YCwbzsH.png
14:41 Calinou useful on the long term
14:41 RealBadAngel there were ghost out there while i was lookin for screen capturer
14:41 Calinou dat debian font
14:41 Calinou +1 for greybird, -1 for firefox
14:41 Calinou erm, I mean firefox font
14:42 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, "How to ask questions the smart way" \o/
14:42 Calinou also, dat tabs
14:42 RealBadAngel i googled for answers
14:42 RealBadAngel there are somwhere out there
14:42 RealBadAngel at least i did it for the "frog" answer
14:42 kaeza google "zerg rush"
14:43 kaeza kekekeke
14:43 PilzAdam kaeza, rule 34?
14:43 kaeza O.o
14:43 RealBadAngel i havent managed to answer who i would like to be
14:43 kaeza PilzAdam, starcraft reference
14:43 PilzAdam kaeza, does it exist?
14:43 Calinou PilzAdam: no, else he would google "pony"
14:43 Calinou ;-;
14:44 kaeza **** ** pico
14:44 rubenwardy zerg rush crashed my browser
14:45 kaeza PilzAdam, http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft
14:46 kaeza derp
14:46 kaeza http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft
14:46 Calinou s/Star/Mine
14:46 kaeza s/Mine/War/
14:46 PilzAdam s/Craft/Test
14:46 whirm wartest?
14:47 PilzAdam yea
14:47 kaeza fun game
14:47 RealBadAngel anybody here know what gremlin rush is?
14:47 kaeza hm?
14:47 RealBadAngel another game, same tactics
14:48 kaeza ah I see
14:48 RealBadAngel Heroes of Might and Magic 3
14:48 RealBadAngel turn based strategy in a fantasy world
14:49 PilzAdam Minetest in valgrind -> turn based
14:49 Calinou fun guy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/5713604/
14:49 kaeza lol
14:49 RealBadAngel i took 3rd place in Poland on championship organized by polish distributor of the game
14:50 RealBadAngel that was an addictive game
14:50 RealBadAngel i played in online league for several years
14:50 RealBadAngel www.toheroes.com
14:51 PilzAdam Calinou, dont feed that troll
14:51 RealBadAngel my best friend, Wuderior, too. he was even better than me in the league
14:52 RealBadAngel we both were best polish team in HoMM3
14:52 RealBadAngel sadly 3rd part of the game was last one so good
14:53 RealBadAngel biggest software companies took over the title
14:53 RealBadAngel and screwed it as much as they could
14:53 ruskie heh
14:53 RealBadAngel no trademark is in possesion of Ubisoft
14:53 RealBadAngel *now
14:53 ruskie that's what people usually say about various franchises
14:54 ruskie have you tried wesnoth?
14:54 RealBadAngel until game was in hand of folks who put their hearts into it
14:54 RealBadAngel it was a great game
14:54 RealBadAngel now its only about getting more money
14:56 * RealBadAngel yells out loud: fuck you UBI!
14:56 * ruskie yawns at another pointless rant
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14:57 RealBadAngel btw, i polished enough bumpmapping code, VanessaE wrote a script to make normal maps out of any texture pack
14:58 RealBadAngel so i think i will make a commit out of it today
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14:59 Calinou command line normal map generator? cool
14:59 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, and since im not ready with hardware lights, my next commit will be fix for lights and 6dfacedir
14:59 RealBadAngel Calinou, its configurable script that uses gimp
15:00 Calinou oh
15:00 RealBadAngel you put it into textures folder, choose parameters and let it work
15:00 * Calinou just installed gimp-texturize, gimp-normalmap and gimp-data-extras
15:00 Calinou installing packages is much faster with a SSD :3
15:00 RealBadAngel gimp-normalmap is what it needs
15:00 Calinou I know
15:00 Calinou installed gimp-dds too
15:01 Calinou just installing random packages :-)
15:01 RealBadAngel http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/generate-texture-normals.sh
15:01 RealBadAngel you can test the script if u like
15:02 Calinou gotta like how chromium wants to download it directly :3
15:02 Calinou have to go now, bye
15:09 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, cool
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16:30 VanessaE hi all.
16:31 sfan5 hi
16:38 sfan5 !sfu sfan5*
16:38 MinetestBot sfan5 Moderator 2,405 posts, registered on 2011-08-24 | id: 239
16:38 MinetestBot sfan5-bot Bot 61 posts, registered on 2013-03-28 | id: 4833
16:38 sfan5 :/
16:39 PilzAdam sfan5, idea for a new command: !lapi {user} -> <MinetestBot> $user: Please read doc/lua-api.txt and ask the question again if you havent found a solution: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt
16:40 sfan5 PilzAdam: i'll add that
16:40 sfan5 you could also do that
16:41 * PilzAdam doesnt know python
16:42 kaeza better yet, make it so it provides a quick description of the api
16:43 kaeza on #lua, you can use, for example, !api io.open
16:43 thexyz make it cite our dev wiki
16:43 VanessaE bbl
16:43 PilzAdam the dev wiki is incomplete and out of date
16:44 PilzAdam basically because of lack of maintainers
16:44 thexyz why don't you fix it then?
16:45 PilzAdam I look at lua-api.txt, its faster
16:45 PilzAdam and I dont need examples or long descriptions
16:45 kaeza Joe Random Modder does
16:46 thexyz it's the only wiki we've got though
16:46 sfan5 kaeza: "!api io.open" you want me to copy the lua bot from #lua
16:46 thexyz (dev one)
16:46 sfan5 PilzAdam: python is easy, not joking, really easy
16:46 kaeza sfan5, only for MT api
16:46 kaeza *API
16:46 sfan5 if you don't know a programming language you can still copy/paste
16:46 PilzAdam sure
16:46 thexyz so, for example, !wiki register_on_generated → Syntax: minetest.register_on_generated(function(minp, maxp, blockseed)) Description: * minp, maxp — position * blockseed — integer Called after generating a piece of world; minp/maxp encompass a 5×5×5 volume of map blocks — that is, 80×80×80 nodes. Modifying nodes inside the area is a bit faster than usually.
16:47 john_minetest I heard you can fly by typing "import antigravity" in python.
16:47 sfan5 !g xkcd antigravity python
16:47 MinetestBot sfan5: http://xkcd.com/353/
16:47 sfan5 MinetestBot: I want anything BUT NOT THE COMIC
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17:43 john_minetest My minetest loading screen is black with white clouds.
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18:02 rubenwardy Hi all
18:03 rubenwardy Anyone play Sims/2/3 here?
18:03 kaeza I do sometimes
18:03 kaeza Sims 2 on the PS2
18:04 rubenwardy What do you think it lacks?
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18:04 kaeza hmm... that's a hard question
18:04 rubenwardy I know
18:05 kaeza if you ask me, more freedom when creating the character (but the PC version may alleviate that)
18:05 rubenwardy yeah
18:06 john_minetest 20:04:29: ERROR[main]: generateTextureFromMesh(): addRenderTargetTexture returned NULL.
18:06 john_minetest FBO has one or several incomplete image attachments
18:06 john_minetest FBO error
18:06 john_minetest FBO incomplete
18:06 john_minetest What is this?
18:06 rubenwardy It has a massive section
18:06 rubenwardy Sounds like it is trying to generate a node preview
18:06 kaeza also, smarter AI
18:06 kaeza srsly, talk, tell joke, talk, tell joke, talk, tell joke, MARRY ME!!
18:07 rubenwardy for example, it is getting a node (like dirt) and rendering it to get what you see in the inventory
18:07 rubenwardy very true, Kaeza
18:07 rubenwardy you can get a sim to marry you in an hour sim time
18:07 rubenwardy for me it is realistic health systems (can get) ill
18:07 rubenwardy better and easier modding support
18:08 rubenwardy and more freedom!
18:08 kaeza well, yes
18:08 kaeza but before you start babbling about "freedom" as in "GNU", lemme say I don't care
18:08 rubenwardy not that kind of freedom
18:09 rubenwardy more sandbox freedom
18:09 rubenwardy I love the sims
18:09 kaeza ah, then you have my complete attention :)
18:09 john_minetest rubenwardy: It is very strange. Look at the screenshot: http://pastebin.sabayon.org/pasties/store/12700/wut.png
18:10 rubenwardy Are you in a node, or are you on the surface
18:10 john_minetest I am on the surface.
18:10 rubenwardy I am not completely sure how more freedom can be gained
18:10 rubenwardy No idea than
18:11 john_minetest My pc has a pentium 4 single core processor, old intel graphics and nearly no ram. But I thought "Hey, it's irrlicht!".
18:11 kaeza one annoying thing in the sims is being blocked by stupid objects like garbage, plates, etc
18:11 rubenwardy here we are: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/2c09e8a84cac653b85bba3c85d781e24b5d6f4f8/src/mesh.cpp#L437
18:11 rubenwardy yeah, and they just freak out and do not find another way
18:12 rubenwardy john_minetest, it is an irrlicht thing
18:14 rubenwardy|away brb
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18:34 rubenwardy back
18:35 PilzAdam away nicks suck
18:35 Exio ^
18:35 * away rocks, though
18:35 Exio nah, you don't
18:35 Exio <3
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18:37 Jordach suggestion: add this to forum rules, not many people look at the mod realeases guidelines
18:37 Jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714238/
18:37 PilzAdam its their fault if thy dont read the mod releases guidelines
18:37 rubenwardy +1
18:38 rubenwardy But with this method they can be threaterned
18:38 Jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714242/
18:38 Jordach ^ fixed
18:38 PilzAdam there is no need to punish people that dont like free licenses
18:39 Jordach PilzAdam, see j4i
18:40 PilzAdam adding this to forum rules would be redundant
18:40 Morrolan I'm not sure if using CreativeCommons as example licenses for a mod is that good an idea. :P
18:40 Jordach Morrolan, well, hold on
18:41 Jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/5714252/
18:41 Jordach there
18:42 PilzAdam why add things to forum rules that only apply to one sub forum?
18:42 PilzAdam and its already written in the sub forum
18:42 Morrolan Remind me not to join that forum if I'd ever consider it, too restrictive for my taste. :P
18:42 PilzAdam and the only people that can break this rule are moderators
18:42 Jordach because it might end up an ongoing problem: EG, Minecraft modders who think CC-ND is actually ok
18:43 PilzAdam and what hinders them from reading he Mod Releases guidelines?
18:43 PilzAdam and why would they read the forum rules if the dont read the guidelines?
18:44 PilzAdam everything is already there, people just need to read
18:44 Jordach PilzAdam, people dont bother reading unless its a properly written rule
18:44 Jordach a topic on this no one will look at
18:44 PilzAdam its their fault then
18:44 Jordach not really
18:45 PilzAdam they cant break the rule anyway since they cant put there mods in Mod Releases
18:45 PilzAdam its like adding "Dont delte this forum" to the rules
18:45 PilzAdam *delete
18:45 Jordach or we just move the ND mods into Old Mods
18:45 Jordach >:D
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19:47 sweetbomber hello, do you use any sort of auto-documentation software? I just generated a doxygen output of minetest, and wandered if it could be integrated with the dev-wiki?
19:47 sweetbomber i believe this would greatly help new contributors (like me) to better browse the code...
19:48 sweetbomber or i could just create a pull request of the html folder. which is better?
19:50 GhostlyDeath Although I do not code for minetest, I have used doxygen
19:50 GhostlyDeath but I find doxygen ugly personally
19:51 Calinou doxygen is ugly
19:51 Calinou there you go
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20:18 Jordach ive never laughed this much (nsfw?) http://imgur.com/gallery/lrHmx
20:20 PilzAdam LOL
20:20 Jordach ive been laughing for the past 15 mins
20:20 Calinou not nsfw, it doesn't involve ponies
20:20 Calinou also, very, very old news
20:20 Calinou this is at least 2 years old
20:20 Calinou also, it is SFW, since it' SFW pron :P
20:20 Calinou it's*
20:20 Jordach Calinou, rear gunner
20:21 Jordach i found that very amusing
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20:59 john_minetest OMG: http://imgur.com/gallery/X83kmWj
21:00 Calinou looks like you're holding NVIDIA's CEO in your hands
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21:10 sfan5 good night
21:10 VanessaE Uberi, sfan5:  worldedit coders' shift change?
21:10 VanessaE ;)
21:10 Uberi hahaha
21:11 Uberi just clocking in, EST 5:11pm
21:11 VanessaE you'r
21:11 VanessaE you're 11 minutes late!  I'm gonna have to dock you. :D
21:11 john_minetest http://imgur.com/gallery/FqmFXmb
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22:13 Kacey heyif someone called "ian" or "ninjaian" or something like that comes around, kick him
22:13 PilzAdam why?
22:16 harrison did you hear about the california videogame murders?
22:16 harrison the defense is claiming it was unintendo
22:16 john_minetest My CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz. Now guess how long it takes to compile linux...
22:18 STHGOM 2895 hours!
22:22 FreeFull 5 seconds
22:22 FreeFull Assuming you're using tcc and no optimisaiton
22:22 FreeFull optimisation*
22:24 FreeFull http://bellard.org/tcc/tccboot.html  A live CD that compiles the linux kernel and then boots it
22:24 Kacey PilzAdam, they are a retarded "friend" of mine that i have no need to deal e=with right now
22:26 PilzAdam Kacey, Ill kick people based on behaviour
22:27 Jordach Kacey, huh
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22:30 ch98 is xyz on?
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22:31 PilzAdam ch98, you mean thexyz?
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22:31 ch98 yes
22:31 codedevil VanessaE: someone griefed my celtic cross on the server
22:31 ch98 I hard he could help on my mac experiment
22:32 VanessaE where is it?
22:32 john_minetest FreeFull: How can it boot and run gcc without having a kernel?
22:33 FreeFull It doesn't run gcc
22:33 FreeFull It runs tcc
22:34 FreeFull You can just have a minimal kernel, do whatever you need and then boot into something proper
22:34 ch98 who knows a lot about fairly old mac and compiling minetest?
22:35 PilzAdam ch98, if we had someone knowing about compiling on/for mac then we would probably have some kind of official mac build
22:36 ch98 I know there is some mac build but i need someone who can make sence of xcode errors
22:39 ch98 I am trying to compile minetest on ppc mac and some says it is cloas to impossible.
22:40 PilzAdam can you compile Irrlicht and the Irrlicht examples on it?
22:42 ch98 irrlicht 1.7.2 was compiled
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22:42 PilzAdam can you run the examples?
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22:44 VanessaE codedevil, those two yellow wool blocks I just placed mark the area available to you where you were building before
22:46 ch98 i can run only HelloWorld
22:46 john_minetest When a protection block is placed/an area is protected, a wool block should be placed at the corners of the area that is protected, automatically. This would ease the process of planning houses. It is much simpler when you know where you can build.
22:47 ch98 and it is not running so well, but it says it shouldn't work
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22:53 asdwMOVIE You here v?
22:53 VanessaE yeah
22:53 asdwMOVIE Cool
22:53 asdwMOVIE What should i message to chat?
22:54 VanessaE I just sent you one
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23:01 ch98 ok all examples work if i open executable file inside app on terminal
23:02 PilzAdam then its probably possible to get minetest working
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23:03 ch98 sorry
23:05 ch98 so all examples work great
23:08 * Jordach considers making a Gangnam Style Render
23:08 Jordach a full video
23:08 PilzAdam too old
23:08 Jordach PilzAdam, point me a video - i'll parody it
23:09 PilzAdam thrift shop
23:09 Exio Jordach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4PTtXIQ3vs
23:09 Exio doit
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23:16 VanessaE bbl
23:16 ch98 can anyone make sence of error message "/Users/net/Desktop/minetest-0.4.4/src/rollback.cpp:117: error: no match for 'operator!=' in 'i != std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::rend() [with _Tp = RollbackAction, _Alloc = std::allocator<RollbackAction>]()'
23:16 ch98 can anyone make sence of error message
23:16 ch98 error: no match for 'operator!=' in 'i != std::list<_Tp, _Alloc>::rend() [with _Tp = RollbackAction, _Alloc = std::allocator<RollbackAction>]()'
23:16 ch98 was kicked by ShadowBot: Paste flood detected. Use a pastebin like ix.io or pastebin.ubuntu.com.
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23:18 ch98 does anyone know what happend?
23:20 PilzAdam yes
23:20 PilzAdam you triggered the flood detection of ShadowBot
23:21 ch98 so i can't use paste
23:28 ch98 so what does "error: no match for 'operator!=' in '(I don't want to type out this part)' mean?
23:29 PilzAdam have you tried googling that error?
23:29 ch98 Yes but i don't get anything good
23:30 ch98 I only get 'operator==' and not 'operator!=' and I suspect it is somthing to do with ! thing
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23:32 ch98 all 3 error saying same thing is c++
23:37 STHGOM taa taa
23:49 Jordach ch98, learn c++
23:49 Jordach you then might find the bug
23:51 ch98 I will try to learn it
23:51 ch98 bye
23:51 PilzAdam maybe try to change the if(a!=b) into if(!(a==b)) if != is not defined
23:51 * PilzAdam hopes he reads the logs
23:56 Jordach <- retard at pool

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