Time Nick Message 00:03 kaeza Uberi, what's the license for Mesecons? can't find anything in readme, and there's no LICENSE file :/ 00:04 Uberi kaeza: one moment 00:07 Uberi kaeza: LGPL code, CC-BY-SA textures 00:07 Uberi source: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=628 00:08 kaeza ah thanks! 00:09 Uberi no problem :) 00:09 * kaeza will steal a bit of pressure plates code 00:11 Jordach hey all 00:11 kaeza hey Jordach 00:11 Jordach hey kaeza 00:11 Jordach its a saturday, so im usually up this late 00:11 Uberi o/ Jordach 00:12 Jordach hey Uberi 00:12 Jordach i cant even sleep right anymore 00:12 Uberi try joining the fight club 00:12 Jordach Uberi, its 1:12am 00:13 Uberi yeah that's my weekend bedtime usually too 00:13 Uberi feels wonderful until you have to get up at 7:35 AM the next day 00:15 Jordach Uberi, i have insecurities 00:16 Jordach mainly nightmares of late 00:16 Uberi oh? any reason for those? 00:23 Jordach Uberi, a lot has changed in my house over the past month 00:37 thefamilygrog66 hey! 00:38 Uberi oi 01:30 tjbarber Where can I find the fire mod? Having a hard time. XD 01:30 Uberi it's built into Minetest now 01:30 xiong I'm coming to realize I picked a very poor site for my first mine. I worked hard down to 50 with little to show for it besides coal and iron... and not so much of that. With some effort I built a sapling farm on 50 in anticipation of going deeper and building a wood farm on, oh, maybe 100; at that time I had only built stairs, no ladders, and I wanted a forward base. 01:30 Uberi well it's part of minetest_game, at least 01:31 Uberi xiong: keep digging 01:31 Uberi at least 64 deep if you want any MESE at all 01:32 xiong Now I've widened my surface explorations and I've found extensive cavern systems at 10 and 20, some with rich veins of iron and copper; some crammed with coal. These require almost no digging; I just light them up and throw a few stairs in. 01:33 xiong Yes, Uberi, I realize I need to go much deeper eventually. But it's a logistics issue, even though I misjudged it at first. 01:33 tjbarber ah Uberi thanks. I'm trying to set up the firearms mod in the OS X port 01:34 xiong I'm sure I don't need to tell gramma how to suck eggs. 01:34 Uberi cool 01:35 tjbarber so awesome 01:36 xiong I'm only coming in now to complain loudly (not for any practical purpose) about my bad fortune and my poor judgement in picking a barren location for my first mine... and in sticking with it so long, when much more productive stuff was and is much easier to get at. 01:37 xiong Right now I'm on 20, in a cave positively reeking with minerals. It will take me days to mine it all out, never going below 20. 01:37 Uberi what about diamonds and other ones that only appear really deep? 01:37 xiong No, it's not mese, it's not gold; but otoh it's not lava either. No effort required. And this will give me plenty of bronze tools with which to make a serious descent. 01:39 xiong The game is coming into focus for me; there's a core set of tech needed, basically bronze tools, tree farms, and furnace/chest camps. 01:40 Uberi what mods are you using? 01:40 xiong I busted into my first lava cavern this weekend and did not handle it well. Dunno even what can be done. 01:40 xiong No mods. 01:40 thefamilygrog66 don't forget lava lamps, xiong... 01:40 xiong ? 01:40 Uberi xiong: use water buckets to rapidly clear out lava lakes 01:40 thefamilygrog66 oh, no mods - never mind 01:41 xiong I have some sketchy lava plans but unsure how to proceed. Not asking for help yet, thanks. 01:41 thefamilygrog66 yeah, water and lava create stone/cobble 01:41 xiong Yeh right. I had exactly two water buckets with me at the time; I lost one and stupidly tried to get it back. 01:41 thefamilygrog66 d'oh 01:42 xiong This was not a lava lake so much as a lava cascade -- not a mere, erm, lavafall but a torrent. 01:42 xiong Probably should have looked at it, posted a sign, and gone back for many more buckets... or left it. 01:43 xiong My plan is to return eventually, use the GPS to find out exactly where it is, then go to the surface and work down to the top. I think I'm correct in thinking I'll hit lava source that way. 01:43 Uberi gps? 01:43 xiong F5. Somebody finally tipped me. 01:44 xiong Yet another undocumented feature. Highly useful. I employed it to join up a couple of my major workings... in the process of which I hit the lava. 01:45 Uberi oh the debug display 01:45 xiong The payoff being that instead of twisty turny passages, all different; I have straight tunnels and ladders going in useful directions. 01:46 xiong Now I can see the grand design more clearly: A grid of tunnels and ladders at predictable depths along which I can move myself and my goods from one place to another and access various workings. 01:47 xiong Meanwhile I've decided, for entertainment, to build a glass and brick house. Castle Xiong, the little stone cottage, is starting to seem... mean. 01:48 Uberi pfft, stone turrets and gothic spires all the way 01:48 xiong I'm having far too much of a good time. 01:50 kaeza next step: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/minetest/screens/octuteam/screenshot_1273302628.jpg 01:50 xiong I'm hoping to avoid boring cliche. I can imagine the path of least resistance: The huge pile of stone, preferably with crenelations and giant wooden pillars. Meh. 01:51 Uberi modern house with obsidian glass windows and iron block walls 01:51 xiong Pokemine??? 01:52 xiong Actually, maybe I should abandon this singleplayer world before I go further. I'm not interested in fighting people; is there such a thing as a peaceful server? 01:53 kaeza yes 01:53 kaeza try VanessaE's one 01:53 xiong Um, specify, no really wacky mods. 01:55 xiong Ah, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4057 01:55 xiong I realize others will have different views but I don't see this as serious play. 01:56 xiong I tend to play all games at 'hard'. 01:58 Uberi yes some mods make the game harder, some easier 01:58 thefamilygrog66 xiong, search the keyword "vanilla" in the servers forum 01:58 Uberi such as the Mobs mod 01:58 xiong thefamilygrog66, Won't that mean no mods at all? 01:58 thefamilygrog66 exactly 01:59 xiong Um, the way I understand it, the core game is not complete; mods are expected. 01:59 Exio survival player eh? 01:59 Exio i just love a survival-gameplay 01:59 xiong I just don't know which mods might constitute a reasonable set... for some value of 'reasonable'. 01:59 Uberi xiong: yes, you have to choose those for yourself 02:00 xiong I want mobs to fight, farms, a bit more tech. 02:00 xiong ? 02:00 thefamilygrog66 ahh, gotcha' 02:00 xiong Surely mods are a function of the server? 02:00 thefamilygrog66 yes 02:00 Exio mesecons, technic, mobf/simple-mobs, and farming_plus (as farming now is upstramed) 02:01 Uberi xiong: for mobs, Simple Mobs (or mobf if you want), Farming is built in in recent versions, tech is Mesecons and technic 02:01 Uberi wait whatever Exio said <_< 02:01 thefamilygrog66 hehe 02:01 Exio :D 02:01 Exio what-i-said-with-explications = what uberi said 02:02 Uberi I personally can't do without WorldEdit, but then again you did say you prefer survival 02:02 xiong Right. 02:03 Uberi Mesecons has digital logic, it doesn't make the game much easier but it does give Mese a ton of good uses 02:03 Uberi plus it's a lot of fun, you can build anything from music players to 3D printers 02:03 thefamilygrog66 xiong, careful though, unless the server is like mine (i.e. with all the monster mobs spawning above ground only at night), there will be nasty monsters randomly placed in the caves where you're mining 02:03 Exio 3d printers? 02:03 Uberi Exio: didn't you see my 3D printer entry to the competition? :P 02:03 Exio print a 3d-printer with a 3d-printer >:D 02:03 Uberi :O 02:04 Exio and then print other with it 02:04 Exio 3dprinterception! 02:04 Uberi Exio: unfortunately it can only print smaller 3D printers 02:04 xiong Okay, I will have to push beyond 0.4.6 then. I'm way too conservative a guy to just blindly install nightly; and I'm unlikely to recompile frequently -- rather avoid make/build if I can. Is there any sane point past 0.4.6? 02:04 Exio aww 02:05 Uberi xiong: the latest git is generally more stable and featureful than the "stable" version 02:05 xiong thefamilygrog66, I *expect* nasty mobs as I dig deep. Been quite a disappointment to find none in the base game. 02:05 Exio and the git has less memory leaks, more features, etc 02:05 thefamilygrog66 ahh, cool. there used to be, back in 0.3 days, I believe 02:06 xiong Don't want to start a fight over that, Uberi. But you know, every dev team says they're really good about it. No offense intended. 02:06 Uberi yeah I had a rat farm back in those days :) 02:06 Uberi xiong: of course, it's your choice :P 02:06 thefamilygrog66 reminds me of the rat milk episode from the simpsons, Uberi... 02:06 xiong I've been engineering virtually all my life; I've come to be... let's not say mistrustful but extremely cautious. 02:07 Exio https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commits 02:07 xiong Forget about buggy software; I've had hardware blow up on me. 02:07 thefamilygrog66 ack 02:07 Uberi xiong: oh? batteries? 02:07 xiong Well, to be fair, most of the hardware failures I've had have been in machines I was building. ;) 02:08 Uberi xiong: in any case I'd recommend Simple Mobs, you'll love battling with the dungeon masters underground 02:08 Exio "Bugfix" "Fixed" "Better prediction" "Fix saving of settings" "Fix memory leaks" "New progress bar on-loading" "Fixed mem leaks" "Fix" "Fix" 02:08 xiong Well, I'm happy to hear opinions but I'm thinking I should pick a server and stick with it. 02:09 Exio :D 02:09 Uberi xiong: got any ones in mind at the moment? 02:10 xiong No; hence my blather. 02:10 xiong Looking now at the forum list. 02:10 Uberi have you checked the official list? 02:10 xiong http://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=10 02:11 xiong ? 02:11 Uberi you might like 5.175.144.3:30001, simple mobs with mostly vanilla survival 02:11 Uberi xiong: http://servers.minetest.net/ 02:12 * xiong sees 02:12 Uberi it's a very barebones page, it actually shows up in the Multiplayer tab of your minetest game 02:13 Exio that page is "cool-ed" in the main page 02:13 Exio in the Servers sections 02:13 xiong So it does. 02:13 Exio it just gets that info with JS and shows it in a cool(tm) way 02:13 Uberi oh yeah http://minetest.net/servers 02:14 xiong Having chosen, at least temporarily, a server; is there a standard way to get info on it? Which mods are installed, what are the server-op's rules? 02:15 Exio the forum post i'd say 02:16 xiong http://jpappsvr01.dyndns.org/minetest/ -- "31 Players played on the main map since 26 May 2013." -- To me, not a good sign. 02:17 xiong Need to think hard about this. 02:18 Exio wut 02:20 thefamilygrog66 xiong, you can determine which mods are installed by typing /mods after logging into the server 02:21 thefamilygrog66 rules are usually posted on signs near spawns 02:24 Exio http://dev.minetest.net/Changelog 02:25 Exio lol 02:26 thefamilygrog66 xiong - regarding the date mentioned on that site, keep in mind that it is in fact the 26th of May right now in many parts of the world... 02:27 Exio Sat May 25 23:27:00 ART 2013 02:27 Exio still 25 here ;P 02:28 thefamilygrog66 Exio, yes it's almost 10:30pm on the 25th here as well 02:28 Exio usa? 02:28 thefamilygrog66 but I'm in Canada, eh 02:29 thefamilygrog66 (note the appended "eh") 02:29 Exio well, "near TZs" 02:29 thefamilygrog66 ? 02:29 * Exio is argentinian ^^ 02:29 Exio thefamilygrog66: near timezones 02:29 thefamilygrog66 ahh, gotcha 02:30 thefamilygrog66 Argentina must have nicer weather than here right now - it's been bloody cold the last few days 02:30 Exio haha 02:31 Exio it is pretty nice here 02:31 Exio 13.3C 90%~ humidity 02:44 xiong Yes, I thought of that, thefamilygrog66. But the page in question uses the word 'since'. 02:44 xiong Either the date shown is in error or the author's command of the language is seriously weak. 02:45 thefamilygrog66 Or time is circular, as opposed to linear... 02:45 thefamilygrog66 :) 02:45 xiong If one had a circular conception of time, one would not employ a Gregorian date. 02:45 Uberi xiong: or since the time of day 02:45 Uberi or perhaps the message is automatically generated 02:46 thefamilygrog66 I would guess it's automatically generated, yeah 02:46 xiong I agree that preindustrial society conceived of time as cyclic; linear time is an industrial concept. 02:46 Uberi more like a Stoicist concept 02:47 thefamilygrog66 At any rate, I just logged on and was the only player online - I'd guess the date is incorrect. 02:47 xiong Both concepts have deep roots but it is industry, with its demonstrated effect on society, that has forced the linear concept to dominate. It is impossible for one now to believe that one's sons can live as one's father did. 02:47 Uberi thefamilygrog66: I believe the count refers to the players that joined, in total 02:48 Uberi what if the cycles are larger than a generation? 02:48 thefamilygrog66 That makes sense, though the wording is a little off. 02:48 Uberi say, why is fall_bobbing_amount disabled by default? it adds a lot of realism to player movement 02:49 xiong Not sure what point you're trying to make. The ancient model of time comprised many cycles of differing lengths. 02:49 Uberi what if the cycle lasted the entire span of the universe? 02:49 xiong Wheels within wheels. 02:49 Uberi of course, it would be impossible to tell from within the universe 02:51 xiong The cyclical concept denies the possibility of long-term change. The notion that the universe will end in a Big Crunch followed by another Big Bang (and, by implication, was preceded by another cycle, etc.) is atavistic, intellectual comfort food. 02:51 Uberi and why would that be? after all, conclusive proof can't be had either way 02:52 xiong Exactly. 02:53 xiong We all take teddy bears to bed; only the color of the fur is different. 02:54 tjbarber question: how do I get the XY values of my current location and how do I set my location using them? 02:54 Uberi tjbarber: in lua API or in game? 02:54 tjbarber Uberi in game. 02:55 Uberi tjbarber: use debug menu, get coords 02:55 Uberi use /teleport to go there 02:55 tjbarber let me see... 02:56 tjbarber ah thanks Uberi. Got it. ;) 02:57 Uberi no problem :) 03:00 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Add license information (requested by kaeza). f9ce95154e 2013-05-25T19:59:40-07:00 http://git.io/P86nKw 03:00 kaeza lol 03:01 kaeza thanks :) 03:01 Uberi if you ask me, the readme needs a ton of improvements 03:01 Uberi but I am too lazy :P 03:02 kaeza yep :P 03:02 kaeza (both of them) 03:02 kaeza what is Mesecons? 03:03 Uberi O_o 03:03 kaeza I guess the readme should at least state that 03:03 Uberi well I might as well do it right now 03:04 Uberi and it needs better ASCII art too 03:04 kaeza :D 03:21 thefamilygrog66 kaeza: I made it so players can pick up sheep and drop them wherever they want on my server 03:22 thefamilygrog66 and can also turn off the deathtimer by right-clicking twice (making the wool grow back as well) 03:22 Uberi how d'ya like them apples? http://www.pasteall.org/42557 03:22 Uberi thefamilygrog66: wait deathtimer? what's that? 03:22 * Uberi is not that great at ASCII art 03:23 thefamilygrog66 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91746#p91746 03:24 Uberi interesting 03:24 Uberi and wheat keeps them permanently alive right? 03:24 Uberi hey Kacey 03:25 thefamilygrog66 As you can see in the thread, PilzAdam added a similar thing, but more complex, depending on whether the player is in visible range, etc. 03:26 thefamilygrog66 the wheat is to tame them/lure them somewhere, but yeah also stops the lifetimer in PilzAdam's case 03:26 Uberi ah yes, very cool 03:26 Uberi definitely good for server lag too 03:26 thefamilygrog66 Yeah, they get outta control 03:27 thefamilygrog66 If my client is lagging when logging onto some servers that have mobs, you can see tonnes gather in caves 03:27 thefamilygrog66 that would take care of them nicely 03:27 Uberi oh that's just the ABM issue, it's really annoying 03:27 thefamilygrog66 give them a defined lifespan, says me 03:30 thefamilygrog66 as I mentioned, I've added code to allow the player to pick them up (instead of them dropping raw meat, they drop a sheep) 03:30 Uberi nice 03:31 thefamilygrog66 makes it so I can harvest a whole bunch of them and drop them on the wall of a cliff into water. It sounds really sadistic when I type it out, wow. 03:32 Uberi fun times 03:32 Uberi can we breed sheep yet? 03:32 thefamilygrog66 nope, they just spontaneously generate 03:33 sokomine pick the sheep up and place them in a fenced off region where you can feed them regulary. treat them carefully :-) 03:34 thefamilygrog66 I've done that as well sokomine, but the fence has to be at least three nodes high, or a lot bigger area so they can't jump off each others' back! 03:34 sokomine and if you care about babaric treatment of animals in such a world...think about minecraft. i saw a video where the animals got hit by the player, took fire and then died. it's pretty brutal...combined with child-like animals 03:34 sokomine :-) 03:35 sokomine guess real sheep wouldn't manage that way of escape :-) 03:35 thefamilygrog66 I made a pen, 2 nodes high, and went from around 15 to 6, very quickly 03:35 thefamilygrog66 goats might do that - they're jumpy 03:36 thefamilygrog66 sheep not so much 03:36 sokomine oh yes. i'd love to see goats. the area ought to be great for them! lots of hills to climb around 03:37 sokomine hope someone does a model eventually. also rabbits and squirrels would be fine. they're smaller animals and would appear more realistic than large animals (easier for them to change direction) 03:40 thefamilygrog66 rabbits especially move in that crazy, erratic fashion 03:40 thefamilygrog66 and squirrels as well, yeah 03:40 Exio i want frogs 03:43 Kacey SQUIRRELS!!!!!!!! lol i would never play the same again... 03:43 sokomine rabbits only when they're on the run. most of the time they sit around and eat 03:43 thefamilygrog66 true enough 03:44 Kacey sounds like my uncle... 03:44 thefamilygrog66 I should add a herobrine evil mob - my son would get a kick out of that 03:45 Kacey a slenderbrine... 03:45 sokomine :-) maybe you can make one special for him 03:45 sokomine in general, i'd love to see more animals roaming around (mobf based because there are more peaceful ones) 03:46 thefamilygrog66 it would be very easy - just use the 3d model for players, with a skin from teh internet 03:47 Exio use the wieldmesh_model 03:47 Exio but instead of a tool 03:47 Exio a red knife 03:47 Exio and make it walk behind you :D 03:47 Kacey makea slender game mode lol 03:47 thefamilygrog66 I just have the five 3D monsters spawning at nightfall on the surface (grass, trees, desert, beach), and they all die by water and sunlight, in addition to players killing them 03:48 thefamilygrog66 and also after 10 minutes, if night lasts that long 04:11 khonkhortisan ooh slenderbrine 04:11 khonkhortisan Assertion '!m_mesh_update_thread.IsRunning()' failed. 04:12 khonkhortisan I'd like to see visible wielded items in minetest by default 04:15 * VanessaE is back 04:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: as would I. 04:16 Kacey wb v 04:16 VanessaE khonkhortisan: I get that crash from time to time also. 04:17 khonkhortisan VanessaE is multi-threaded, processing each statement separately and possibly answering them out-of-order. 04:17 VanessaE heh 04:20 Exio at least the multithreading is in the answers and not in writing it 04:20 Exio :P 04:20 Exio hi VanessaE! 04:20 VanessaE that would get....confusing. :-) 04:21 Kacey what would a good funny coding reference be for a gamertag on xbox live? 04:21 khonkhortisan reminds me of yoda 04:21 VanessaE New build: efc75db7[...] 04:21 VanessaE Kacey: something involving the 'red ring of death' 04:21 khonkhortisan .#. 04:21 khonkhortisan ..# 04:21 khonkhortisan ### 04:21 VanessaE khonkhortisan: wrong kind of 'live'. 04:22 Kacey VanessaE, lol that is going in my bio 04:22 * VanessaE recognizes the glider pattern :) 04:22 VanessaE Kacey: the red ring of death is a crash of the xbox hardware or some such, potentially fatal to the machine. 04:23 VanessaE symbolized by a lit, red ring around the power button 04:23 kaeza xboner? 04:23 khonkhortisan had to image search it http://www.civin.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/red-ring-of-death-04.jpg 04:25 Kacey i know what it is. i have fixed it 4 times already 04:26 Kacey but something like "LostVariable" or something funny 04:30 kaeza 0xCAFEBABE 04:31 kaeza ^ Java class file signature 04:31 VanessaE 0x600DF00D 04:31 VanessaE :) 04:31 kaeza you always thinking about that :| 04:31 VanessaE (don't mind me, just bored) 04:32 khonkhortisan 0x0LLEH 04:32 khonkhortisan ^ invalid address 04:32 kaeza wat 04:32 kaeza lol 04:32 VanessaE khonkhortisan: nonono. 0x7734 04:32 khonkhortisan more of a calculator joke than memory addresses 04:32 khonkhortisan 0x5355378 04:33 kaeza 81680085 :D 04:33 * kaeza hides 04:33 khonkhortisan I was trying to read that backwards 58008618 04:34 Kacey HAHAHA! 04:36 Exio wut 04:38 Exio good, i need to download 10 mb of crap 04:38 Exio for emulatin a /dev/fb0 04:38 Exio g 04:38 kaeza lol 04:39 kaeza that's linux for you 04:39 Exio wut 04:40 kaeza need to download libA? but it depends on libB anc libC! (also libB depends on libG and libC depends on libE and ....) 04:40 Exio better than downloading those 10 mbs of crap in every program, don't you think? 04:41 kaeza depends 04:41 VanessaE bbl, time fo rbed 04:41 Exio need to download libZ? this is like you need libB because libC is already installed, and libB needs libX1 and Y1, but you have both installed because you downloaded that crap before 04:41 VanessaE night 04:41 Exio night VanessaE 04:41 Exio that is, you end downloading, "later" only 100kb of crap instead of 10 mb 04:42 kaeza nite V 04:44 kaeza anyway, time for bed 04:44 kaeza night all 04:47 Exio night kaeza 04:47 khonkhortisan 99 is a very small stack 04:49 Exio ./giveme default:cobble -1 04:49 Exio :D 04:49 khonkhortisan /say /giveme 04:51 Exio or // 04:51 Exio but ./ makes it look more l33t 04:58 Exio night here, too 05:09 Kacey hi 05:09 Kacey lol wow 05:32 khonkhortisan ./giveme.sh 06:38 sfan5 hello 07:39 Galaxy Ciao 07:39 Galaxy !list 08:43 markveidemanis Who will help me build a great spawn 08:43 Calinou PilzAdam will do when he's here (before 2017) 08:57 Calinou what the fuck? 08:57 Calinou I hear ocean sounds while joining animals survival server 08:57 Calinou sound volume is set to 0 but sound is enabled (so that I can enable it if needed) 09:20 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/l6DCXPq.jpg 09:20 RealBadAngel ive made normal maps support for animations and liquids 09:25 markveidemanis RBA 09:25 markveidemanis How good of a builder are you? 09:26 markveidemanis Oo shit 09:26 markveidemanis mods are fucked up 09:26 markveidemanis how does this new system work? 09:26 markveidemanis nvm i got it i thikn 09:27 markveidemanis I think 09:27 RealBadAngel builder? 09:29 markveidemanis im building a spawn for my new server and would like contributions 09:29 markveidemanis i reckoned you would be a good architect and builder 09:29 RealBadAngel but im busy coding 09:31 markveidemanis k 09:31 markveidemanis Can you fix a mod i attempted to make 09:31 markveidemanis More like debug... 09:32 RealBadAngel pastebin ur code and explain whats wrong 09:37 markveidemanis Its a multiple mod confilct 09:38 * markveidemanis tries to find the mods... 09:39 markveidemanis http://www.sendspace.com/file/032fo0 09:40 markveidemanis I need the creative tab removed if mode is survival 09:40 markveidemanis and stop the horrible flickering 09:40 markveidemanis only 1 formspec per page 09:40 markveidemanis i cant really identify the problem much 09:42 RealBadAngel john_minetest, ?? 09:44 RealBadAngel ah, i put there a chest, something with higher contrast to check water alpha 09:46 RealBadAngel markveidemanis, you mean conflict with default creative mod and its formspec? 09:46 markveidemanis no, i deleted that 09:46 markveidemanis I mean flickering when i use addons 09:46 markveidemanis like skins 09:47 markveidemanis or change page to another mod like armor 09:52 markveidemanis I need a money 09:52 markveidemanis Mod 09:52 markveidemanis The classic one 10:10 markveidemanis Zeg9 10:10 markveidemanis How good are you at building? 10:10 Zeg9 Bad 10:10 markveidemanis Architecture? 10:11 Zeg9 Bad 10:12 Zeg9 I have a friend who is good at it but he hates minetest (I don't know why) 10:12 Zeg9 A new diamond block for minetest ? http://imgur.com/JdIii1y 10:14 Zeg9 In both textures the color is taken from the original diamond texture :P 10:18 FreeFull Zeg9: I'd take something halfway between the two 10:19 Jordach agreed with FreeFull 10:19 Jordach anyways, since i changed the wireless' wifi channel settings, irc actually works now 10:19 Zeg9 The first with the edges of the second ? 10:19 Jordach (auto channelling wifi devices dont work) 10:20 FreeFull Zeg9: A blend, so the edges aren't that intense 10:21 Zeg9 Ok. I'll try 50-50 10:21 * Jordach is playing mortal kombat 10:22 Zeg9 FreeFull, Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/NOAzKWn.png 10:22 markveidemanis ൠ10:22 Zeg9 Nice, mark... 10:24 FreeFull Zeg9: That's almost perfect. I'd like a test picture with four diamond blocks in a square 10:24 Jordach Zeg9, can you produce a texture set for minetest_game 10:24 Jordach (eg, replace the current ones) 10:25 FreeFull The current ones aren't bad 10:25 Jordach i might start using sphax's pack at some point 10:25 Jordach i said something minecrafty and a wild Calinou appears 10:26 Calinou cool, textures were compressed in default :P 10:26 Calinou hi 10:26 * Calinou removed their BIOS logo at boot to gain ~1 second in boot time 10:26 Calinou I now boot in 20 seconds :3 10:26 Zeg9 I did that since a while 10:27 Zeg9 Plus the bios logo was white while all the other steps were black lol 10:27 * Calinou noticed some gray lines with text about CPU and RAM appear at boot, when logo is disabled 10:27 Calinou BIOS logo is yellow and black here 10:27 Calinou just like my mobo :P 10:28 Jordach Calinou, i boot in 17 seconds with vista 10:29 * Zeg9 can't type worldmods when mkdir'ing -_- 10:29 Calinou Jordach: including POST? 10:29 Jordach lol POST 10:29 Calinou even with a SSD, 17 seconds boot time to vista seems unrealistic 10:30 Calinou asrock mobo with fast boot on + good SSD = about 15 seconds to xubuntu log in 10:30 Calinou this is probably the best you can do 10:30 Calinou for a full OS 10:31 Jordach Calinou, in the time i take to switch the kettle on (4 seconds) and walk back to my pc, (8 seconds) then sit down (3 seconds) 10:31 FreeFull AROS will boot faster than that, off a HDD too 10:31 Calinou I can press my case's boot button on my chair, it is on top :P 10:31 Calinou FreeFull: -ENOT_A_FULL_OS 10:32 FreeFull How is AROS not a full OS? 10:33 Calinou http://www.cowcotland.com/images/test/fractal/xl-r2/mini/xl-r2-011.jpg 10:33 Calinou 4 usb ports, only one of them has ever been used :3 10:33 Calinou http://www.cowcotland.com/images/test/fractal/xl-r2/xl-r2-011.jpg 10:33 Calinou better 10:33 Jordach eww 10:33 Jordach it looks like a xbox one 10:35 FreeFull Is the blue USB3? 10:35 sfan5 blue == USB3.0 10:35 sfan5 (well, in 99% of the casesJ) 10:35 sfan5 -J 10:35 Zeg9 FreeFull, sorry for the delay but http://i.imgur.com/lYKHweE.png 10:37 FreeFull I think I'd take the rightmost one 10:38 Zeg9 I'll pull request this one then 10:40 sfan5 john_minetest: no opening tag found 10:43 Calinou FreeFull: yeah 10:44 Calinou on the mobo I have about 8 USB 3.0 ports and 2 USB 2.0 ports (used for mouse and keyboard) 10:49 Issa hello minetest worlkd 10:49 Issa how are u 10:56 jin_xi hey issa, i saw your video... you know about the /time command? 10:57 jin_xi because it was really dark 11:02 Jordach mother fucker 11:02 Jordach beaten by shao kahn again 11:03 Jordach i've just realised how to cheapen up buying computer parts 11:03 Calinou inb4 buying in china 11:03 Calinou inb4 customs 11:03 Jordach buy with euros as british pounds are more expensive 11:04 Jordach and buy from france 11:04 Calinou buy french titans 11:04 Jordach lol Titan 11:05 Jordach hey PilzAdam 11:05 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:07 Jordach fuck 11:08 Calinou titan is useless since the 780 was released, Jordach :P 11:08 Jordach fuck. just got m. bison'd by shao kahn 11:08 Jordach won the first round but not the next two 11:10 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/T8d5wfo.jpg vs http://imgur.com/EF9DgVy 11:14 Jordach Calinou, i still use a nvidia geforce 6xxx and i still get 60fps in the games i play 11:17 Jordach oh and, the laptop wifi isnt faulty, the router wifi was 11:18 Jordach damn cheap isp boxes 11:20 Calinou 10 year old games :P 11:21 Jordach this includes minecraft, minetest, xonotic, RE, and various others 11:22 Jordach also: simple minetest faq: 11:22 Jordach does your computer run solitaire? 11:22 Jordach A: yes 11:22 Jordach then you can play minetest 11:22 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, last time I checked the water was invisible with your shaders branch when turning off shaders; have you fixed it yet? 11:23 RealBadAngel yes 11:23 RealBadAngel i will upload new code shortly 11:23 RealBadAngel i have fixed most of the issues, added support for animations and liquids 11:23 PilzAdam whats about the warning that is displayed when digging nodes? 11:24 Calinou Jordach: yeah, with min settings :P 11:24 Jordach Calinou, 30-40fps RE with default settings 11:24 RealBadAngel im uploading now sphax x256 with new normal maps 11:24 markveidemanis RealBadAngel 11:24 markveidemanis What happened to the round sun/moon 11:25 Calinou Jordach: < 60 FPS sucks :P 11:25 PilzAdam markveidemanis 11:25 RealBadAngel markveidemanis, skydome code will come later 11:25 PilzAdam can you stop writing nicks without anything else? 11:26 markveidemanis PilzAdam \n Okay 11:34 markveidemanis When will entities get selection boxes? 11:35 Calinou they have 11:35 PilzAdam ehm.... they already have 11:35 markveidemanis since we have collision, can we make a platform that moves? 11:35 Calinou yes you can 11:35 Calinou but the player won't move with it unless you attach it 11:35 markveidemanis ARRGGH 11:35 markveidemanis WHY? 11:35 Calinou upward platforms work only if slow, and only if the player holds jump key 11:35 Calinou (or set gravity to 0 temporarily to help) 11:36 markveidemanis then make walls for the platform 11:36 markveidemanis Hmmm... 11:36 markveidemanis Seems a good idea... 11:36 markveidemanis set_attach while in transition 11:37 markveidemanis I meant custom selection boxes 11:37 markveidemanis because collisiononly works for the selection box (the space the entity occupies) 11:37 markveidemanis So can someone make me a platform prototype? 11:50 Jordach markveidemanis, no 11:51 Jordach !g USB 2.0 speed 11:51 MinetestBot Jordach: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Serial_Bus 12:02 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91895#p91895 12:14 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, can you make win build for it? 12:15 Jordach i prefer PilzAdam's builds to sfan5's 12:15 Jordach because LuaJIT 12:15 sfan5 fine! i'll add luajit as soon as i'm finished building RealBadAngel's branch 12:17 Jordach and then maybe i'll switch to sfan5's 12:22 markveidemanis RBA \n Please make me a platform that moves somehow 12:23 Jordach markveidemanis, quit with the \n 12:23 Jordach this isnt python or a text editor 12:23 MinetestBot This isn't python, but I am python! 12:24 Jordach ha 12:24 Jordach From: usr/bin/python2.7 12:26 sfan5 RealBadAngel: your build is uploading now 12:27 sfan5 23,9 MB in 7z format (with special texture pack) 12:29 markveidemanis this isnt python 12:30 markveidemanis This isn't python 12:30 sfan5 RealBadAngel: http://sfan.sf.funpic.de/minetest-builds/c55/minetest-0.4.6-efc75db-rba-win32.7z 12:45 OldCoder john_minetest, it has been quite a while 12:45 Jordach brb, going home 12:45 Jordach OldCoder, see you in 30 mins 12:45 OldCoder john_minetest, yes; ban should be over 12:47 markveidemanis *ahem* 12:47 OldCoder john_minetest, the main VPS has new hardware. I am backing up the worlds now. 12:48 OldCoder I hope to sync the code with upstream when LevelDB is supported 12:48 OldCoder Or to update the code and do my own sync 12:48 OldCoder This summer 12:48 OldCoder markveidemanis, ^ 12:48 OldCoder There has been some disruption. This has been unavoidable. 12:48 markveidemanis okay 12:49 PilzAdam hello OldCoder 12:49 OldCoder PilzAdam, Hello 12:54 OldCoder My U.S. worlds are restarted. If anybody could test that would be good. 12:54 OldCoder john_minetest, ^ 12:59 markveidemanis ARRRGGGHHH 13:00 markveidemanis DIGILINES HAS BUGS 13:00 Issa_ hello 13:01 Issa_ i have a question how to play with the generator map ? 13:02 markveidemanis can i ask a question? 13:02 markveidemanis Dont give people much of a choice, do you? 13:02 markveidemanis You may ask.. 13:02 PilzAdam markveidemanis, read rule 1: http://minetest.net/irc 13:03 markveidemanis Dont ask to ask 13:04 MinetestBot GIT: Zeg9 commited to minetest/minetest_game: Better diamond block texture a654c0dbbd 2013-05-26T03:43:42-07:00 http://git.io/xKgx6Q 13:05 PilzAdam john_minetest, IP and port? 13:06 OldCoder john_minetest, Hi 13:06 PilzAdam !up minetest.org 30010-30015 13:06 OldCoder john_minetest, I see a problem. Debugging it now. Thank you. 13:06 MinetestBot minetest.org:30010 seems to be down 13:06 MinetestBot minetest.org:30011 seems to be down 13:06 MinetestBot minetest.org:30012 seems to be down 13:06 OldCoder Thanks 13:06 MinetestBot minetest.org:30013 seems to be down 13:06 OldCoder Working on the issue 13:06 MinetestBot minetest.org:30014 seems to be down 13:06 MinetestBot minetest.org:30015 is up (0.298s) 13:06 PilzAdam ooops 13:06 PilzAdam sorry 13:08 sfan5 ShadowBot: op MinetestBot 13:08 sfan5 ... 13:08 sfan5 !deop ShadowBot 13:08 sfan5 ShadowNinja: you forgot to set the nopunish flag for MinetestBot.. 13:09 MinetestBot Sorry for flooding 13:09 sfan5 PilzAdam: also: MinetestBot admins are not affected by the max ports at once limit set in serverup.py 13:09 PilzAdam yea, thought so 13:09 OldCoder john_minetest, there is an issue; I am working on it 13:12 markveidemanis RealBadAngel: holy shit just looked through your github 13:12 OldCoder john_minetest, Good... but need to fix something 13:12 Issa sfan5, 13:12 sfan5 Issa, 13:12 Issa i like u pack i m trying it 13:12 markveidemanis soo much cool shit... 13:12 Issa but u don't add the good directory for the texture 13:13 sfan5 Issa: could you please use understandable english? 13:13 Issa ok 13:13 Issa on u pack of minetest with rba 13:13 sfan5 you mean my minetest build 13:13 Issa yes 13:17 RealBadAngel sfan5, you have put textures in /textures/all/all 13:17 sfan5 RealBadAngel: woops 13:17 RealBadAngel happens :) 13:18 Jordach back 13:18 Issa thanks RealBadAngel 13:18 sfan5 RealBadAngel: reuploading file now 13:18 Jordach MinetestBot! 13:18 MinetestBot Jordach! 13:18 sfan5 Jordach: currently working on LuaJIT 13:18 Jordach \o/ 13:19 Issa sfan5, u don't farm on the release ? 13:19 sfan5 Issa: farm? 13:19 Issa sfan5, [0.4.7] Farming added 13:20 Issa so if u compile minetest from source, u will be have farming no ? 13:20 sfan5 my build has farming 13:20 sfan5 it was fetched from git 10 mins ago 13:22 Issa ok it's cool 13:22 Issa i like it 13:22 RealBadAngel btw, when using bumpmapping, turn off preload item visuals 13:24 Jordach hello OldCoder 13:25 Jordach hey NakedFury 13:25 sfan5 RealBadAngel: fixed zip finished reuploading 13:25 OldCoder Jordach, hello 13:26 RealBadAngel super, thx 13:26 Jordach im reminded of the 0.4.3 days again 13:27 Jordach at least we got rid of the stain called likwid 13:27 sfan5 Jordach: I edited my buildscript for LuaJIT, building right now 13:27 Jordach \O/ 13:28 Jordach im a moron 13:28 Jordach i wondered why blender wasnt moving the bones 13:28 markveidemanis ikr 13:29 Jordach it was on rest position 13:31 sfan5 yay! my luajit build script works 13:31 PilzAdam does MC have dry shrubs? 13:32 sfan5 yes 13:34 Jordach ^ join spam 13:34 PilzAdam markveidemanis, stop join spamming 13:37 sfan5 Jordach: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91907#p91907 13:38 sfan5 149 that visited my minetest builds site have "Windows 7 / Chrome / 1366x768" 13:39 Jordach laptop users 13:40 Zeg9 Hello! 13:41 sfan5 100% have cookies enabled and 94,1% have Flash 13:41 sfan5 84,1% hava Java, 76,3% have PDF 13:41 Zeg9 john_minetest: seems i'm not banned from #minecraft :p 13:42 Jordach im not banned 13:43 Zeg9 If your name is advertising minetest, quite logical they ban you :D 13:44 PilzAdam join as john_minecraft :-p 13:45 Zeg9 Well IRC sees your name as something like john_whatever@unafiliated/john_minetest so theorically this is part of your name (ok, /me hides) 13:45 Exio hostname you mean :> 13:47 OldCoder john_minetest, Worlds are up. Try to test today if possible. 13:47 OldCoder Thanks 13:50 PilzAdam hey, can somone join #minecraft and say that Im a minetest dev? lets see what happens :D 13:56 Exio ... 13:56 Exio k 13:58 sfan5 minetest guys join #minecraft , mincraft guys join #minetest 13:58 markveidemanis LL 13:59 markveidemanis LOL 13:59 Exio in the meantime, there is some people what joins in #mt and #mc both at login-time ;P 13:59 * sfan5 14:01 Nikondork Exio: I have it set to do that as well, I just havent reconnected in a while 14:01 Nikondork seriously though, if we could just quit this petty bullshit 14:02 Gambit Heh thanks markveidemanis. 14:02 Exio the only who did bullshit was markveidemanis 14:02 sfan5 actually 14:02 markveidemanis HOT ME 14:02 markveidemanis NOT ME 14:02 Gambit Exio: No it was PilzAdam. 14:02 Gambit markveidemanis came to warn us :) 14:02 sfan5 !quiet markveidemanis*!* 14:02 Exio Gambit: it was a joke 14:02 markveidemanis FUCK 14:02 sfan5 !mute markveidemanis*!* 14:02 Nikondork if there is anyone coming in here to troll I can assure you its not in the name of #minecraft 14:02 Gambit :s 14:03 sfan5 todo list: alias !quiet to !mute 14:03 sfan5 !unmute markveidemanis*!* 14:03 Jordach where the fuck is Taoki 14:03 * VanessaE peeks in 14:04 Jordach hey VanessaE 14:04 VanessaE hey 14:04 MinetestBot hi VanessaE 14:05 Exio sfan5: enable cleverbot! 14:05 Gambit I wish cleverbot had an api :( 14:05 OldCoder VanessaE, Hello 14:06 MinetestBot VanessaE: you said "hey" when jordach said hi, why don't you say "hey" after I said hi :( 14:06 Jordach Jordach* 14:06 VanessaE hey OldCoder 14:06 Jordach capitalise my name dammit 14:06 VanessaE allright, who's on the bot? 14:06 Jordach alright* 14:06 PilzAdam VannesaE I am ;-) 14:07 * MinetestBot is on the bot 14:07 Exio ok 14:07 PilzAdam ooosp 14:07 * MinetestBot is on the roof 14:07 Jordach JUMP! JUMP! JUMP! 14:07 * MinetestBot jumps down the roof 14:07 Gambit VanessaE: Is PilzAdam a minetest dev? 14:07 MinetestBot I guess its sfan5 14:07 enchilado Wow, that's a well-coded bot. 14:08 MinetestBot I guess its PilzAdam. 14:08 MinetestBot Gambit, yes he is 14:08 VanessaE Gambit: yes 14:08 VanessaE he's the primary coder for minetest_game now (the actual game's content) 14:08 sfan5 PilzAdam: *she 14:08 MinetestBot 2 people abuse me too much :-( 14:08 Gambit Wow. Way to represent your project then there PilzAdam. 14:08 MinetestBot why not 3 people? 14:08 Exio Gambit: https://github.com/minetest?tab=members 14:08 PilzAdam Gambit, its not my project 14:09 PilzAdam this is FOSS 14:09 VanessaE heh 14:09 Exio it is OUR project, but you can always blame PilzAdam 14:09 Gambit 05-26 09:50:51| hey, can somone join #minecraft and say that Im a minetest dev? lets see what happens :D 14:09 Gambit No really, way to represent your development team. 14:09 Exio (in doubt: blame PilzAdam) 14:10 VanessaE PilzAdam: it's a western thing, you represent that which you contribute to actively, if you do so at least somewhat publicly. 14:10 Jordach Slave, kill the bot 14:10 sfan5 !mute *!*Bot@* 14:10 PilzAdam Gambit, I just noticed that people on #minecraft overreact when reading about minetest, I just wanted to see if its true 14:10 Exio Gambit: it was a joke because john_minetest is banned in #minecraft because the minetest in the cloak 14:10 sfan5 Jordach: done 14:10 Jordach markveidemanis, you do not need bot here 14:10 Gambit PilzAdam: There's a pretty good reason for that. 14:11 enchilado Exio: erm, sorry? 14:11 Exio enchilado: hi 14:11 PilzAdam I could say that it was not my intention to troll on #minecraft, but you wouldnt believe me anyways 14:11 Gambit A reason which apparently now extends all the way up into the development team. 14:11 enchilado Exio: what do you mean, he's banned because minetest is in the cloak? 14:11 Exio enchilado: i just say what he said 14:11 enchilado Hi 14:11 sfan5 !unmute *!*Bot@* 14:11 Exio check the backlog! 14:11 Gambit The members of this channel constantly have some desire to "Hey let's go start shit in #minecraft. lel" 14:12 Exio uh? 14:12 sfan5 Gambit: s/members/people like markveidemanis/ 14:12 sfan5 !up uplink.io 14:12 MinetestBot uplink.io:30000 is up (0.167s) 14:13 Gambit sfan5: Well today, markveidemanis actually came to warn us that PilzAdam had some intention to troll. 14:13 sfan5 Gambit: then PilzAdam was muted and markveidemanis trolled... 14:13 sfan5 kind of backwards 14:13 Exio Gambit: oh god 14:13 Exio if you take EVERYTHING serious 14:14 Exio it was just a joke 14:14 VanessaE anyone seen Uberi around today? I need to bend his ear. :) 14:14 sfan5 !seen Uberi 14:14 MinetestBot sfan5: uberi was last seen at 2013-05-26 03:33:41 UTC on #minetest 14:14 sfan5 ^ VanessaE 14:14 VanessaE figures. 14:15 VanessaE maybe he'll be back later. 14:15 markveidemanis hi 14:15 VanessaE sfan5: actually you'll do ;) 14:15 sfan5 john_minetest: I think they banned *!*minetest*@* 14:15 sfan5 *could have banned 14:15 VanessaE //rotate doesn't work right - it rotates the selection and then it gets un-rotated immediately after 14:16 Gambit There are several patterns in place. Trolls from this project love evading bans. 14:16 VanessaE at least around the Y axis, and if the measure is 90 degrees (maybe also 270), it leaves remnants behind. 14:16 sfan5 VanessaE: I won't be able to look into this right now, maybe Uberi can help you if the comes online 14:17 VanessaE ok 14:17 markveidemanis TEST 14:17 VanessaE FAIL 14:18 markveidemanis I meant PING 14:18 VanessaE PUNG. 14:25 sokomine hi 14:25 OldCoder sokomine, Hello 14:26 sokomine hi oldcoder. nice to see you 14:27 OldCoder o/ 14:29 VanessaE PilzAdam: is there a way to prevent a sheep from de-spawning? 14:29 PilzAdam yes 14:30 sokomine iirc you have to feed it? 14:30 VanessaE ah, the tame-with-wheat thing? 14:30 sokomine they really where gathering up in moulds in too high amounts 14:30 sokomine yes, that's the latest i read in the thread 14:31 VanessaE I didn't read the whole thread :P 14:31 VanessaE Ah 14:31 VanessaE that's easy 14:32 sokomine they now follow you when you wield intresting food :-) 14:33 sokomine at least it's not a direct copy of the minecraft behaviour where feeding lets them emit hearts and produce offspring (just to be brutally murdered later on by the player) 14:36 Jordach wheres Taoki when you need him 14:38 PilzAdam *her 14:38 Jordach PilzAdam, its a dude 14:38 Jordach i've seen his youtube vids 14:39 VanessaE PilzAdam: recommend adding some kind of feedback msg in the chat when an animal is tamed 14:39 sokomine sounds like a good idea :-) 14:40 PilzAdam VanessaE, the feedback is that you have 1 wheat less 14:40 VanessaE heh 14:40 VanessaE just passing on what one of my users felt was missing 14:40 Taoki Jordach: hi 14:41 Taoki Might need to go soonish though 14:41 Jordach ah, youre the man i currently need 14:41 Taoki k 14:41 Taoki Also, her is correctly said too, ignore how I look on youtube :P 14:43 Jordach http://i.imgur.com/EF1GKHF.jpg 14:48 OldCoder Yes 15:09 Jordach has anyone had a bug 15:09 Jordach where you load a singleplayer world once and it crashes during media load 15:09 sfan5 Jordach: have you tested my latest build with luajit? 15:09 Jordach but restart minetest and it loads fine, but closing the world makes it die again 15:13 Jordach nice lol 15:15 VanessaE Jordach: LOTS of people have that crash 15:15 VanessaE and it isn't just in singleplayer, either 15:18 ShadowNinja sfan5: If you register your bot with ShadowBot I can give it the nopunish capability. I have two flood detectors and one doesn't ignore ops it seems. 15:18 sfan5 just make it ignore ops 15:20 ShadowNinja But then I need to modify it. I think I will just remove the other plugin. ,,(unload AttackProtector) My plugin should be able to do what the other plugin does now. 15:20 ShadowBot ShadowNinja: The operation succeeded. 15:23 RealBadAngel i made another water texture: http://i.imgur.com/yEWiT7w.jpg 15:25 jcontra Does anyone have a screenshot of a dungeon master, by chance? I'm looking for a reference to make some fan art 15:26 Exio to the people who know german, how hard would you consider it as language? ;P 15:26 Jordach jcontra, five secs 15:26 PilzAdam jcontra, look at the wiki at minetest.com 15:26 Jordach http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mobs#Dungeon_Master 15:26 PilzAdam !wik Dungeon Master 15:26 MinetestBot "Minetest had very few mobs before the 0.4.0 version." - http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Dungeon_Master 15:26 PilzAdam MinetestBot! 15:26 MinetestBot PilzAdam! 15:26 Jordach jcontra, 15:26 Jordach http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mobs#Dungeon_Master 15:27 jcontra I was hoping for a better resolution-- I've found that 15:28 jcontra is there any way to open up the 3D model in Blender? 15:28 jcontra Exio: German isn't bad if you speak English natively. THey're on the same language branch 15:28 Exio i don't speak english natively, so, aw 15:29 khonkhortisan Sie nein sprechen ze engelsk. 15:30 Jordach VROOM! VROOM! http://i.imgur.com/XCCEY7s.png 15:30 khonkhortisan it needs a little more 15:32 sokomine exio: not hard at all because it's my native tongue :-) 15:32 Exio haha 15:32 Exio cheater! :P 15:32 sfan5 jcontra: the dungeon master has no 32 model 15:32 PilzAdam yea, german is pretty easy :-p 15:32 PilzAdam jcontra, you can look at simple mobs for an unofficial 3D model for it 15:33 sokomine exio: the grammar is more flexible than in english. also we have articles for each noun that describes weather it's male/female/neutral (similar to french) which might give learners a hard time 15:33 jcontra PilzAdam: What do you mean? 15:33 sfan5 jcontra: old dungeon master textures: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/0.3.dev-20111021/data/dungeon_master.png 15:34 PilzAdam jcontra, Simple Mobs is a mod 15:34 jcontra Exio: And nouns are usually capitalized, which helps when you're learning. 15:34 sokomine my french teacher once said that there was just one rule in german without exception: if a noun ends in -chen, it's always "das *-chen" (e.g. das Broetchen) 15:34 Exio sokomine: that sounds like spanish/italian, "too" 15:35 sokomine yes, there are many languages that are structured that way 15:35 jcontra PilzAdam: I see-- so in its current state, it's a 2D sprite? 15:35 sokomine and it's right that german and english are related. the german spoken in the northern parts of germany tends towards english 15:35 Jordach NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 15:36 jcontra PilzAdam: Sorry-- I'm making the art, I'm not the fan... yet :) 15:36 PilzAdam jcontra, Simple Mobs has a 3D model for the dungeon master 15:36 sokomine nowerdays, you don't have to worry if you spell something wrong. there are loads of native speakers who don't have a clue about their written language either and where it hurts to try to decipher what they might have had in mind in forum posts 15:36 jcontra PilzAdam: Thanks-- I'll check it out 15:37 sokomine the original dungeon masters iirc where 2d sprites 15:37 sokomine then there's the dungeon masters from sapiers mobf 15:39 sokomine exio: one speciality of german is that you can combine as many nouns as you want into a new noun which then becomes a legitimate word as well. english doesn't have that 15:43 Exio that seems i'll try to start learning it in some years :P 15:47 PilzAdam Exio, read kaeza's forum signature 15:48 Exio i know 15:48 Exio if he didn't change it 15:49 sfan5 "Very good, sfan5. You are on your way to becoming a more skilled compiler." 15:49 sfan5 ^ hahahaha, what the fuck 15:49 Exio wat 15:49 * Exio links sfan5 15:49 sfan5 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91914#p91914 15:54 Jordach FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU http://i.imgur.com/SZYqLYZ.png 15:54 Kacey do a barrel roll! 15:55 Jordach please work 15:55 Jordach i really want to beat the shit out of my pc right now 15:56 Jordach if this works, everyones getting rasta:weed 9999 15:56 Jordach nope.avi 15:57 Calinou /giveme jordach:gardevoir -1 15:57 Jordach that works too 15:57 Jordach although a clearobjects will probably be needed 15:58 Jordach <- Rage = 87% 15:59 OldCoder 15:59 OldCoder clearobjects can be a problem 15:59 sfan5 ‮lol 16:00 * ShadowNinja can't use it anymore 16:00 Jordach MOTHER FUCKER 16:00 Jordach all i had to do was ROTATE THE MODEL NOT INVERSE THE SCALE 16:01 * Jordach beats the shit out of blender 16:01 sfan5 *** blender died 16:01 Calinou *** blender left the game. 16:01 sfan5 *** Jordach recieves 'fuck shit ton of source code' 16:02 Jordach those three lines fit 16:05 Jordach actually, i might have worked out this random crash 16:06 Jordach when minetest caches a new model, it seems to cause the /home/adam/Minetest/win32/minetest/src/client.cpp:1739: ProcessData: Assertion ' 16:06 Jordach !m_mesh_update_thread.IsRunning()' failed. 16:09 Jordach also: i think irrlicht 1.7.2 in these builds is also making this bug occur 16:12 Jordach 1). Fix the model's rotation bug. 16:12 Jordach 2). Once everything works 16:12 Jordach 3). Light up the doobie 16:15 jcontra Jordach: Good plan 16:16 Kacey bbl 16:21 Zeg9 PilzAdam: any idea why the inventory in minitest is lagging as chests?? 16:21 PilzAdam because formspecs suck 16:22 sokomine no, not as such. formspecs are fine. and they give mobs the ability to present a formspec 16:22 * Jordach exports again 16:23 sokomine just the idea to make the content of locked chests visible only to the owner of the chest was not so great. may have sounded good when the idea came up but is extremly annoying ingame when you have to wait and wait and wait for your chests 16:23 sokomine jordach: do you create models as well? 16:23 Jordach yes 16:24 * sokomine still hopes for goats, rabbits, squirrels etc. 16:24 jcontra do you use blender? 16:24 jcontra I kind of/sort of know blender 16:24 sokomine could you do those? :) or would that detain you from doing more important work? 16:24 Zeg9 The real problem is that the item moving in formspecs is ONLY predicted for inventory and crafting grid 16:24 Jordach SUCCESS! 16:25 PilzAdam Zeg9, mobs or redstone? 16:25 PilzAdam what to do next in MiniTest? 16:27 PilzAdam Ill make some simple redstone 16:27 Zeg9 Redstone I think 16:27 Jordach call it yellowstone 16:27 PilzAdam no 16:28 PilzAdam Zeg9, I need textures :-p 16:28 Zeg9 My brother wants me to play with him atm :P 16:28 PilzAdam oO 16:29 PilzAdam that doesnt sound right... 16:29 Jordach Zeg9, oohh arr 16:30 Zeg9 This is a good way to try minitest ;-) 16:31 Jordach This is taking longer than expected. Your video has been queued and will be processed as soon as possible. 16:31 Jordach FFS 16:33 Zeg9 PilzAdam: when I'm done playing (yes, I play...) I'll do some more textures, especially redstone 16:33 PilzAdam hood 16:33 PilzAdam *good 16:35 sokomine hm. now sdzen said the map of his server does no longer save - something menche encountered as well. what's up there? any solutions? 16:35 Jordach sokomine, i think the levelDB patch is needed. 16:35 Jordach OldCoder, ^ 16:37 OldCoder Hi 16:37 OldCoder Reviewing 16:37 OldCoder No longer saves? Explain 16:38 Jordach hm. now sdzen said the map of his server does no longer save - something menche encountered as well. what's up there? any solutions? 16:44 Jordach http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91924#p91924 16:45 RealBadAngel i finally made the water for Haven TP :) http://i.imgur.com/fwWzMMk.jpg 16:45 RealBadAngel what do you think about it/ 16:45 RealBadAngel ? 16:45 NakedFury looks good 16:45 Calinou looks nice 16:45 Jordach meh 16:46 Calinou Hybrid Dog's version: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/82342922/temp/fwWzMMk.jpg 16:47 Calinou RealBadAngel: -1 for not using shaders :P 16:47 sokomine shaders are bad! they don't work on my grapics card 16:47 RealBadAngel hrhr 16:47 Calinou sokomine: how about getting opengl 2.1+ :3 16:48 RealBadAngel sokomine, whats ur gfx card? 16:48 Calinou inb4 X1800 16:48 Calinou inb4 945GM 16:51 Jordach oh shit, its cisoun's birthday today 16:51 Calinou dat harsh linux user 16:55 Zeg9 PilzAdam: will you use the raillike drawtype for redstone? 16:55 PilzAdam yes 17:04 sfan5 damnit! why the fuck is codeload.github.com "503 Service Unavailable" 17:06 Jordach 17:05 UTC We are investigating issues with tagged downloads. 17:07 Jordach sfan5, ^ 17:07 sokomine rba: still a GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a (5 years old onboard) 17:08 Octupus Hi 17:09 Zeg9 PilzAdam, done wire and dust 17:09 Zeg9 http://i.imgur.com/sFOMVwL.jpg 17:09 PilzAdam cool 17:14 sfan5 Things are only unavailable when you need them. 17:22 Zeg9 PilzAdam: do you want new glowstone textures? 17:22 PilzAdam yea 17:22 RealBadAngel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-pTkeMMdzQ 17:23 Calinou PilzAdam: modified mesecons much? :P 17:24 Calinou by the way, it would be nice if default physics were changed in minitest 17:24 Calinou we need more gravity, slightly more jump height to compense, bump walk speed to 4.27, reduce sneak speed to 0.75 17:24 Calinou and disallow liquid sneaking (and set downward liquid speed to a much faster one) 17:26 NakedFury reduce arm length while your at it calinou 17:26 NakedFury we have a ridiculous reach 17:26 Calinou can't do that 17:27 Calinou all the things I mentioned can be done with minetest.conf or lua API (set on join) 17:34 RealBadAngel john_minetest, not yet 17:37 * Jordach continues to consider windows 8 17:39 * Calinou considers windows 9 17:40 thexyz + dead 17:40 * MinetestBot considers Python 2.7 17:41 * Calinou considers python 0.1 17:41 Calinou "Added Memory management" --changelog 17:52 sokomine please don't reduce arm length. that would only make building more difficult without any benefits at atll 17:55 Calinou reduce x86 length instead 17:55 Calinou anyway, in minecraft it is the same as minetest 17:55 Calinou since 1.0 or so 17:55 Calinou it's even a bit longer in minecraft :P 17:57 sokomine i won't object to making it longer :-) that might make building easier 17:58 Exio that should be a setting 17:59 * john_minetest considers linux 9 18:00 Exio wait a year 18:00 Exio linus did like mozilla 18:08 Jordach Starting Minetest server at: 217.43.25.218 : 30000 18:08 Jordach !up 217.43.25.218 18:08 MinetestBot 217.43.25.218:30000 is up (1.078s) 18:12 Exio john_minetest: compare the 2.x vs the 3.x release rate 18:13 PilzAdam Zeg9, I also need torchlike/wallmounted lever 18:13 Exio it was 3.2 in 2012 or 2011 iirc 18:16 Calinou 3.5 you mean 18:16 Calinou firefox 18:16 Calinou linux was 3.2 in beginning of 2012 18:16 Calinou now it's 3.10 18:16 Calinou (no, won't be 4.0 :D) 18:16 Calinou well, soon to be 3.10 18:19 Zeg9 torchlike lever ?? will look weird 18:19 Calinou you could use a nodebox lever 18:19 Calinou not very accurate but better than torchlike 18:19 Calinou torchlike is fugly :P 18:19 Calinou I'm surprised it is still used today 18:22 Zeg9 I gotta go, sorry... 18:29 Jordach hey Calinou 217.43.25.218:30000 18:29 Calinou what? 18:29 Jordach go connect 18:30 Jordach im also getting 38fps with a 512px sphax pack 18:34 kahrl Personally I think in survival the horizontal arm length is just about right whereas the vertical arm length is too short 18:34 kahrl because it makes chopping down trees a nuisance 18:34 Jordach that 18:43 * Jordach pokes VanessaE 18:59 Exio john_minetest: in mean from 2.1 to 2.2 18:59 Exio was a lot of time 19:03 kahrl actually I just started a new world and can't find any of those problematic large trees 19:03 kahrl maybe those were trees from a mod where I had problems 19:10 PilzAdam some very basic redstone added to Minitest 19:21 Kacey bbiab 19:45 Jordach huh, im rated 1058elo at chess 19:46 Calinou the bigger your elo is, the bigger your... 19:46 Calinou nothing 19:46 * Calinou is playing xonotic on [mon] vehicle gameplay 19:46 Calinou 12/12 19:53 Jordach black was fucked anyways 19:53 Jordach i had two queens against his one king 19:56 kahrl ugh what is up Telekom 19:56 * kahrl gets so many dup acks on his youtube TCP connections 19:56 kahrl videos take hours to load 19:57 kahrl and no I don't have one of these cursed new contracts 20:01 Jordach kahrl, buy yourself some broadband 20:02 tjbarber Hey how do you give another user permissions in multiplayer mode? I want to give teleportation and I've tried /privs give and it's not working. 20:04 Miner_48er I need a way to make exceptions to the ip ban for certain users on shared ips. Any way to do this? 20:05 kahrl I have broadband but it is overallocated... or maybe it's a problem on youtube's end 20:05 Miner_48er maybe by username 20:08 tjbarber never mind figured it out with the permissions. 20:17 sfan5 good night 20:26 Jordach happy birthday cisoun 20:27 cisoun Jordach: oh thanks man !! 20:27 cisoun :D 20:28 Jordach if it werent for me checking G+, i would have missed it 20:29 kaeza evening 20:29 kaeza +s 20:30 Jordach kaeza, 217.43.25.218:30000 20:30 kaeza happy birthday cisoun 20:31 kaeza Jordach, what is that? 20:31 kaeza inb4 ip addr 20:31 Jordach well, come see 20:31 Jordach rark and miner are here 20:34 cisoun thanks everyone o/ 20:37 Calinou happy birthday cisoun :) 20:37 * Calinou has more candies than cisoun >:D 20:38 Jordach kaeza, you may have timed out 20:38 VanessaE Jordach: ow. *pokes back* 20:38 Jordach VanessaE, 217.43.25.218:30000 20:38 Jordach gogogo 20:39 VanessaE why? 20:39 Jordach trust me 20:39 VanessaE ok, I'll bite. 20:39 VanessaE going in... 20:39 Kacey Jordach, can i join? 20:39 Jordach sure 20:39 VanessaE I expect to see that green and white character. 20:39 Jordach failed to emerge player issues 20:39 VanessaE Miku or whatever 20:40 Jordach wrong.... wrong.... 20:40 kaeza heck this modem 20:40 Jordach theres a song for that 20:40 Calinou it's gardevoir, VanessaE, a pokémon 20:40 kaeza disconnected again :< 20:40 VanessaE oh right 20:40 Calinou Jordach: OPPA GANGNAM STYLE 20:40 Jordach nope.avi 20:40 kaeza hi VanessaE, Calinou 20:40 VanessaE hey kaeza 20:40 Jordach oh god 20:40 Jordach im at 0.5% of 100mb 20:41 kaeza !up 217.43.25.218 20:41 VanessaE Jordach: aborted, trying again and now it's dead. 20:41 MinetestBot 217.43.25.218:30000 is up (0.303s) 20:41 Jordach try again 20:41 * VanessaE offers chocolate to whoever wants 20:41 Jordach winning 20:41 VanessaE there it goes. 20:41 * Calinou eats the chocolate 20:41 Jordach ^ fat bastard 20:42 VanessaE Jordach: it ain't workin' 20:42 Jordach give it time 20:42 * Jordach checks texture sizwe 20:42 VanessaE stock at ...well whatever percentage it's at (dammit zeg9!) 20:42 VanessaE stuck* 20:42 Jordach VanessaE, the model weighs 2mb 20:42 VanessaE oof 20:42 VanessaE big model 20:42 kaeza well, it went up to 75% here 20:42 Jordach Taoki actually nearly halved it 20:43 kaeza and then got stuck 20:43 Kacey meh i need a screenshot or else i will melt my freaking computer 20:43 kaeza Jordach, can you host remote media? 20:43 Jordach kaeza 20:43 Jordach <- windows 20:43 kaeza :{ 20:44 VanessaE *gasp* 20:44 VanessaE I'm in 20:44 VanessaE what, no fast/fly? >:-( 20:44 VanessaE Jordach: you look like the usual player model. 20:45 Jordach i forget pointing at a screen doesnt work 20:47 * Calinou edits their minetest.conf using nano 20:47 * Calinou feels like they're a nerd 20:47 Jordach Calinou, i did that for my vps 20:47 Calinou I usually use geany 20:47 * Calinou switches to qwerty to type the IP 20:48 Calinou the percentage on "media" is gone since there's a loading bar 20:48 Calinou and IMO, it should scale over all the bar, not half ot it 20:48 Calinou half of* 20:50 Calinou takes a while to log in :P 20:50 Jordach VanessaE, the model weighs 2mb 20:50 Calinou I know 20:53 VanessaE HAH! 20:53 VanessaE I killed her AND the server :D 20:53 Calinou yeah 20:53 Jordach its the on_punch table 20:53 Calinou so, I said, Jordach, port Taoki's models \o/ 20:53 Jordach VanessaE, shes still alive 20:53 VanessaE I saw a puff of smoke 20:54 Jordach come back then 20:54 VanessaE (I was just trying to push her) 20:54 Calinou mmmph 20:55 Calinou I try to put a password, I didn't have one, "invalid password" 20:55 Calinou didn't know it didn't work on non-first joins :P 20:57 Calinou again crash :P 20:57 VanessaE crashed again 20:57 Jordach fix needed 20:57 VanessaE you suck. 20:57 VanessaE :) 20:57 * Jordach updates simple mobs 20:57 Jordach you do realise this is the Let's Play world i was using right 20:57 Calinou complicated mobs 20:57 Calinou ah ok 20:57 Jordach <- doesnt give one fuck 20:58 Jordach okay, we might have to add ponies 20:58 Jordach Taoki ^ 20:58 Jordach ridable to 20:58 Jordach too* 20:58 * Jordach slaps Calinou, just because 20:58 Taoki Jordach: MLP game type for MT will eventually be done :) 20:58 PilzAdam Simple Mobs isnt the problem 20:59 Calinou why a whole game for it ._. 20:59 Calinou models + map is enough, probably :P 21:01 PilzAdam VanessaE, your a liar 21:01 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91943#p91943 21:02 PilzAdam *you are 21:02 VanessaE when did I say that? 21:02 VanessaE hybrid dog is nutz 21:02 VanessaE oh he must mean the subject line 21:02 VanessaE (which is why I left the "/git" in there) 21:03 kaeza I don't know how PilzAdam is surprised 21:03 PilzAdam the only thin in the forum that is allowed to be tagged as 0.4.7 is the news section 21:03 kaeza some people even have 4.6 21:03 kaeza (yes four point six) 21:03 VanessaE fixed. 21:04 PilzAdam we should ban everyone who pretends to use a non existing Minetest version >:-) 21:04 Calinou replace instances of "4.6" with "Minecraft" 21:04 Calinou profit 21:04 PilzAdam s/Minecraft/MiniTest/g 21:08 Jordach Calinou, VanessaE: come on down 21:08 VanessaE busy.. 21:14 Jordach Calinou, fixed 21:14 Calinou k 21:14 Calinou have to go anyway, night 21:15 * VanessaE is preparing a massive update to HDX 21:15 Jordach OH SHHHHIIIITTTTTT 21:15 VanessaE bumpmaps - lots and lots of bumpmaps (and specularmaps also, for when that becomes possible) 21:16 VanessaE you thought the 512px pack was big before, it's gonna be 3x as big by the time I'm done here. 21:17 Jordach FUCK FUCK FUCK 21:17 Calinou using a 512px pack vs 256px is like using 2133mhz RAM over 1600mhz RAM :P 21:17 tgs3 hi 21:17 Calinou hi tgs3 21:17 tgs3 so how advnaced is minetest, do we have any monsters? 21:17 VanessaE Calinou: actually to play reliably on my server, I have to stick to 256px now 21:17 Jordach tgs3, simple mobs, mobf 21:17 VanessaE tgs3: yes. 21:17 VanessaE there are several mods that add creatures 21:18 tgs3 is it playable, like, is there a challange e.g. of surviving the night? or is it just building with no challange 21:18 tgs3 e.g. is it a fun challanging game regarding the gameplay itself 21:18 tgs3 VanessaE: can you link me to them? How to use them, I'm on linux 21:19 VanessaE just check the forums 21:19 VanessaE I don't remember the names of all of them 21:19 tgs3 though is it a fun to play game for you yet? :) 21:20 VanessaE it's fun for me with or without mobs 21:20 tgs3 but without mobs it is just like playing lego without any danger right? 21:21 tgs3 except danger of stepping barefoot on a brick... :P 21:21 Calinou VanessaE: well, is there any use to 512px since it gets to big :/ 21:22 VanessaE Calinou: one can delete the parts they don't want 21:22 VanessaE e.g. delete all of that which doesn't correspond to a mod you're using 21:23 Jordach PilzAdam, i just noticed a bug in simple mobs 21:23 PilzAdam hm? 21:23 Jordach apprently i cant tame custom mobs 21:23 Jordach despite being the correct item 21:24 PilzAdam sheeps are tamed in a self define on_rightclick() by settin self.tamed = true 21:24 Calinou simple mobs should have a launchpad, it was specifially designed for projects with tons of bugs 21:24 Calinou which is why ubuntu uses it 21:24 Calinou :> 21:26 * Calinou has a new signature: any hosts selling free servers 21:29 Jordach PilzAdam, is self.tamed set to default by normal on spawn 21:29 PilzAdam self.tamed is false on spawn 21:29 PilzAdam or nil, dunno 21:29 Jordach so does /spawnentity bacon:sandwich 21:29 Jordach set it to false 21:30 PilzAdam yep 21:30 Jordach well, it doesnt 21:30 Jordach the follow = "bacon:eggs", works 21:31 PilzAdam taming != following 21:32 Jordach PilzAdam, self.tamed isnt defined 21:32 Jordach even though i tried printing it to the console 21:32 Jordach and i dont see a difference for this line: clicker:set_wielded_item(item) 21:33 Jordach even though its not being removed befored, 21:33 Jordach before the if statements* 21:33 Jordach why there 21:34 PilzAdam oh, thats a bug 21:34 Jordach did i just stumble on that 21:35 Jordach saw this in wazuclan: 21:35 Jordach *** Traxie21 left the game 21:35 Jordach *** Traxie21 joins the game 21:35 Jordach thats her too 21:35 Jordach I has an i5 laptop now, much better than my old C2Duo 21:35 Jordach 8 G ram 21:36 PilzAdam fixed 21:36 Jordach link me the zipball 21:36 Jordach (too lazy to fire up the browser) 21:36 PilzAdam git clone https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs.git 21:36 PilzAdam :-p 21:36 PilzAdam https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/archive/master.zip 21:37 Jordach <- not installed git 21:38 PilzAdam more bugs fixed 21:38 PilzAdam redownload 21:41 Jordach PilzAdam, with /spawnentity the mob just sits there frozen 21:41 Jordach not even animating 21:42 PilzAdam /spawnentity does not differ from normal spawning 21:42 Jordach but when i rejoin, the standing anim plays, but doesnt even move 21:42 Jordach im using engine commit 4a95c37 21:42 PilzAdam I noticed that animation is broken sometimes (in the Minetest engine) 21:43 Jordach PilzAdam, the entity will not move until it sees the item it likes to follow 21:43 Jordach the item taking works now 21:44 PilzAdam nope, mobs do start walking when spawned with /spawnentity 21:44 Jordach not for me 21:44 Jordach join me 21:45 Jordach 217.43.25.218:30000 21:45 Jordach its using latest simple mobs 21:45 PilzAdam just tested with a sheep 21:45 Jordach PilzAdam, this is not a sheep btw 21:45 PilzAdam that isnt a problem 21:46 PilzAdam every mob in simple mobs works the same 21:46 Jordach before i could spawn the mob and it would walk normally 21:46 Jordach now it doesnt 21:46 PilzAdam you just need to wait a bit until it starts working 21:46 Jordach the animal flag is set 21:46 Jordach (using LuaJIT) 21:46 PilzAdam just wait a bit 21:47 Jordach spawn time is 22:46 (10 46pm) 21:57 Kacey codedevil, is your nick pronounced "code devil" or "coded evil"? 21:58 khonkhortisan iamnowhere 21:58 VanessaE does it matter? :) 21:58 khonkhortisan i am now here, i am nowhere 21:59 Jordach PilzAdam, i made a spawner and it works fine 21:59 Jordach but /spawnentity doesnt 21:59 kaeza Kacey, code devil -> Bill Gates, coded evil -> Window$ 21:59 Jordach because i heard footsteps as all other mobs are disabled 22:04 codedevil kaeza: your choice ;) 22:04 codedevil I started default world but the earth is all reddish... is that normal? 22:04 Exio disable shaders 22:04 codedevil and lots of: I started default world but the ERROR[main]: generate_shader(): failed to generate "test_shader_1", addHighLevelShaderMaterial failed.earth is all reddish... is that normal? 22:05 Exio RealBadAngel: make shader autodisable when the gpu support is not l33t enough for it 22:05 codedevil that fixed it 22:05 codedevil Exio: good point 22:05 codedevil although this is rather strong GPU, radeon 5xxx series 22:05 Exio intel gpu? open source drivers? 22:06 codedevil other games have no problem last time I checked 22:06 sapier is there any reson why finite water isn't flowing? 22:06 Exio i have a low end 2012 (rebranded from a 2010 or no idea when) low-end gpu :D 22:07 codedevil it seems I can not bind mouse3 to jump 22:07 sapier ok ok it's flowing ... just very very very slowly 22:08 Exio sapier: make the liquid update lower :P 22:08 Exio 0.2 is the recommended for finite_liquids iirc (1 = default) 22:08 Exio i use 0 anyway :D 22:09 Exio codedevil: keybinds, yep 22:09 codedevil how to increase far distance? 22:09 Exio "far distance"? 22:09 sapier why isn't there a usefull default value set? 22:09 Exio sapier: because the fefault value is for non-finite-liquids 22:09 Exio (useful for it, not finite_liquids) 22:09 Exio s/fef/def/ 22:10 codedevil Exio: fog distance 22:10 sapier thats not an explanation ;-P if infinite water is enabled by config setting the default setting could be alterated by that setting too ;-P 22:10 codedevil Exio: I would like to see terrain even 1000 blocks away 22:11 Exio that will kill your gpu but, viewing_range values 22:11 Exio viewing_range_nodes_max = 250 22:11 Exio viewing_range_nodes_min = 200 22:11 Exio my values ^ :P 22:12 codedevil Exio: where? 22:12 Exio codedevil: minetest.conf 22:12 codedevil oki 22:12 codedevil the fog is making dark caves lighted when viewed from distance 22:12 Exio i replaced the fog with blur with a local shader :P 22:13 thexyz PilzAdam: why https://github.com/PilzAdam/carts/blob/master/functions.lua#L12 22:13 codedevil also if I look at ground, and then look up, then the brightnes is changing/animating, this looks very distracting 22:14 PilzAdam thexyz, because I only want 0, -1 or 1 22:14 thexyz PilzAdam: you should do that with if's 22:14 Exio if stuff > 0 1 22:14 thexyz it'll be faster 22:14 Exio == 0 0 < -1 22:14 PilzAdam but... but I like math... 22:15 Exio lol 22:15 thexyz you shouldn't 22:15 sapier in that case you should try to ad exp and sqrt functions too 22:15 Exio sqrt(-1) 22:15 Exio and profit 22:15 Exio :D 22:16 sapier if not crash on sqrt(val) then 22:16 thexyz then try to evaluate 1 / x 22:16 thexyz if it crashes then x == 0 22:19 thexyz PilzAdam: also why don't you check for number being an integer like that math.floor(x)==x 22:19 PilzAdam why are you looking at the code of the carts mod? 22:19 VanessaE http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91948#p91948 22:19 VanessaE \o/ 22:20 thexyz PilzAdam: because it's 2:20 am now, I guess 22:21 thexyz meh, that code 22:23 thexyz indeed, you're right 22:23 thexyz i'd better go sleep 22:26 codedevil RealBadAngel: you want to work on portals? 22:29 codedevil to who we report bugs on irc? 22:30 sapier just tell or report on github 22:30 codedevil in github version there is bug in GUI - in editing world options and enabling mods - I get errors GUIConfigureWorld: Not allowing focus change and the GUI is not refreshedc correctly, e.g. there is checkbox enabled shown for a directory, or item that is checked on the left is shown as not checked in the list etc 22:31 sapier hmm I guess that bug won't be fixed anymore as guiconfigure world in it's current state is about to be removed 22:35 PilzAdam buttons added to redstone in MiniTest! 22:35 PilzAdam only redstone item that has not placeholder graphics 22:36 codedevil the loading process is really really slow 22:36 sapier disable item visual preloading codedevil 22:40 Uberi OK, I'm about to push the greatest README mankind has ever witnessed 22:40 Uberi I advise you to shield your eyes 22:40 VanessaE Uberi: looky :-) http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91948#p91948 22:41 VanessaE bumpmapped HDX 22:41 * Uberi is jelly 22:42 codedevil OH MY GOD 22:42 codedevil that is the ugliest sheep in history of mankind 22:42 Uberi MinetestBot get on this 22:42 Uberi hurry up man 22:42 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: A ReadMe that is at least 2.84 times better than the old ones. 8be0d0e1d9 2013-05-26T15:40:48-07:00 http://git.io/OyifHg 22:42 VanessaE lol 22:42 Uberi 'bout time 22:43 codedevil why it shows it's braced tooth [||||] ? looks like crossover between sheep, duck and darth vader 22:43 VanessaE codedevil: I'm sure new textures are welcome 22:43 VanessaE if you can do it, then do it :) 22:43 codedevil can I kill sheep? 22:43 Uberi only if your ethics allow it 22:43 codedevil well I hit it and nothing 22:44 Uberi got any screenshots VanessaE? 22:44 Uberi I won't be seeing any bumpmapping myself until my next PC upgrade 22:44 VanessaE yeah, hang on 22:44 codedevil 00:43:57: ACTION[ServerThread]: singleplayer digs default:leaves at (65,8,-31) 22:44 codedevil 00:44:00: ERROR[ServerThread]: ServerEnvironment::deactivateFarObjects(): id=340 m_static_exists=true but static data doesn't actually exist in (12,1,-8) 22:44 codedevil WARNING: StaticObjectList::remove(): id=340 not found 22:44 sapier just ignore 22:44 codedevil when I break trees, with nature mod 22:45 sapier nature mod ;-) 22:45 sapier I don't use nature mod because of it's infinite growth 22:45 Uberi I used nature mod for a while and made the mistake of going AFK 22:45 Uberi the trees set an ambush for me 22:45 Uberi there were no survivors 22:46 VanessaE Uberi: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_3716860301.png ~~ http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_3717351605.png ~~ http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/screenshots/screenshot_3717114928.png 22:46 codedevil on ground there are some samplings, and walking over them is not picking them up 22:46 Uberi aw now you're just showin' off 22:46 VanessaE you asked for screenies :) 22:47 VanessaE codedevil: click them. 22:47 VanessaE dropped items don't automatically pick up 22:47 Uberi you know, I was kind of on the fence about the aesthetics of HD texpacks before 22:47 Uberi but bumpmapping fixed that 22:47 VanessaE hehe 22:47 codedevil uhhh... how to make the crafting box? not 2x2 wood plank? 22:47 Uberi codedevil: no crafting box 22:47 Uberi just press i to open inventory 22:47 Uberi it's already 3x3 22:47 sapier maybe it's time to think about adding a "high details" mode to minetest ;-) 22:48 codedevil well indeed.. k 22:48 Uberi codedevil: if you like though, there are mods that can change a lot of things to be like Minecraft 22:48 Uberi for example, https://github.com/PilzAdam/item_drop makes items pick up when you walk near them 22:48 codedevil how do I mine sheep 22:48 codedevil :| 22:48 sapier "mine"? 22:49 VanessaE he probably wants to pick them u\ 22:49 VanessaE up* 22:49 Uberi yeah you know just extracting that Mutton Ore from them 22:49 sapier if you use mobf for sheep you need a lasso to catch em and scissors to get wool from them 22:49 VanessaE Uberi: but that's dangerous stuff, worse than trilithium resin! 22:49 sapier mobf == animals modpack base 22:50 Uberi dangerous indeed, but doubly delicious 22:50 VanessaE lol 22:50 Uberi "sheep should have a 10% chance of exploding when you hit them" <= I know a good idea when I see one 22:51 VanessaE haha 22:51 FreeFull How hard should they explode? 22:52 Uberi well a 100 block radius should work for a start 22:52 FreeFull How about 22:52 FreeFull 500 blocks 22:52 Uberi even better! 22:52 Kacey 310000 blocks! 22:52 Uberi and 50% of the time they should drop a full stack of diamond blocks for no reason 22:53 FreeFull 20% of the time they should morph into another animal 22:53 Uberi I guess they eat carbon and poop diamonds 22:53 codedevil so there are no mobs that will attack me in night? 22:53 * codedevil would like some challanging game 22:55 FreeFull Remember DMs? 22:55 codedevil ? 22:55 Uberi codedevil: you'll see :) 22:55 Uberi oh and don't walk outside too much at night 22:56 Uberi it's a bad neighborhood out there 22:56 codedevil so far its a boring neighborhood 22:56 codedevil just an ostrich I killed with sword 22:57 Uberi codedevil: wait which mod are you using again? 22:57 Uberi for mobs I mean 22:57 codedevil animals_modpack-2.1.2 22:57 codedevil moreblocks 22:57 codedevil neko259-nature-7666ae41b5dd 22:58 Uberi in that case, look out for DMs underground 22:59 codedevil is there mod with DM on land? can they be used both? 22:59 Uberi one moment 23:00 Uberi see any vombies around? 23:00 Uberi is it nighttime in game? 23:00 Uberi btw VanessaE I am having trouble reproducing the issue 23:00 Uberi rotating my 3D printer seems to work fine 23:01 codedevil are there biomes or just the gras land? 23:01 Uberi codedevil: yep, there's grass, desert, mountanous 23:01 VanessaE huh. 23:01 Uberi oceanic, etc. 23:01 VanessaE Uberi: I'll check it again later, unless maybe your copy is out of date ;) 23:02 Uberi my version is the definition of bleeding edge :P 23:02 Uberi codedevil: in any case vombies will spawn anywhere that's dark at night 23:03 codedevil from which mod? 23:03 Uberi codedevil: mobf 23:03 Uberi they look sorta like zombies 23:03 Uberi they'll be walking around outside at night 23:04 Uberi that's the most common aboveground one at least 23:04 VanessaE wtf? 23:04 VanessaE JPEG FATAL ERROR: Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x89 0x50 23:04 VanessaE ok, WHICH file was it then? 23:05 Uberi aren't you using pngs? 23:05 VanessaE no, in HDX most are jpg since the engine supports it. 23:05 Uberi whoa jpgs are supported? 23:05 VanessaE or they're SUPPOSED to be :-/ 23:05 Uberi I gotta compress all my images 23:05 * VanessaE wonders what she broke 23:06 Uberi VanessaE: go through each jpg and check the magic bytes at the beginning for corruption 23:06 VanessaE me grumbles loudly 23:06 VanessaE /me 23:06 Uberi you can script it 23:06 kahrl start minetest --info --verbose and I think it will print a message when it loads a file 23:06 Uberi I am halfway done the script already anyways 23:06 PilzAdam VanessaE, use the default pack :-p 23:07 kaeza VanessaE, a simple python script could help with that 23:07 thefamilygrog66 what's happening? 23:07 VanessaE kahrl: ah, that helped. 23:07 kaeza just read the first two bytes and compare ;) 23:07 VanessaE oh, might be my cache 23:08 Uberi you know I can't let good code go to waste: http://www.pasteall.org/42574 23:09 VanessaE oh ffs. 23:09 VanessaE my scaling script is what did it. 23:10 kaeza Uberi, dafuq is that 23:11 * VanessaE feels really stupid. 23:11 Uberi it's code that goes through every jpg in the script folder and checks the magic bytes for corruption 23:11 Uberi oh I forgot the recursive flag 23:12 Uberi nvm, ignore the code 23:12 kaeza Uberi, I mean, what lang? 23:12 Uberi oh, it's AHK 23:12 Uberi same language I wrote MeseconEdit in :) 23:22 VanessaE sorry for the fuckup, guys...I'll have the files fixed in git in about 15 mins 23:23 VanessaE (you'll want to re-clone, this requires overwriting the git history) 23:23 Uberi hdx? 23:23 VanessaE yeah 23:23 VanessaE I screwed up my scaling script a while back but didn't catch the error until now. 23:28 VanessaE there, 64px is fixed. 23:28 VanessaE the others are still uploading 23:28 VanessaE (16 and 32px sizes were not affected) 23:29 VanessaE 128px up. 23:31 VanessaE 256px is up. 23:32 PilzAdam do you continue this until 4096? 23:32 VanessaE nope. 23:32 VanessaE I won't go above 512. 23:32 PilzAdam why? 23:32 Uberi no, the highest resolution is 4294967296 23:32 PilzAdam ultra HD is fun 23:32 VanessaE because anything higher truly is overkill 23:32 VanessaE plus my machine couldn't handle it anyway :P 23:33 Uberi every texture is 55340232221128654848 bytes 23:33 VanessaE heh 23:34 Uberi this is assuming 24bit color, of course, with no padding 23:35 khonkhortisan You can store extra bits per pixel and hide stuff in the image 23:35 Uberi the parity of each byte could store a bit of data 23:36 Uberi the encrypted data would appear as uniform noise, making it difficult to identify 23:36 Uberi but not impossible 23:37 VanessaE or just sero out every byte's LSb and use those bits to store the data 23:37 VanessaE zero* 23:37 VanessaE s/byte/pixel/ 23:37 Uberi that works too 23:37 Uberi but you store 3x less data 23:37 Uberi if by pixel rather than by byte 23:38 VanessaE so use the least bit of each pixel's color component 23:38 VanessaE encrypt the data, store it, no one would be the wiser 23:39 Uberi but statistical analysis shows that your image has uniformly random data in the LSB of each byte 23:39 VanessaE good point 23:39 VanessaE of course, most images would have that anyway 23:40 VanessaE you could salt it maybe 23:40 VanessaE or alternate between the lowest bit and the second-lowest by some defined formula 23:40 Uberi nah, lots of images have normal distributions for those sorts of things 23:41 khonkhortisan http://underhanded.xcott.com/?page_id=17 23:41 Uberi oh man that one was my favourite entry of all time 23:44 VanessaE there, and 512px is up, that should fix them all. 23:44 codedevil Loaded mesh: npc_character.b3d 23:44 codedevil JPEG FATAL ERROR: Wrong JPEG library version: library is 80, caller expects 62 23:44 codedevil 01:44:05: ERROR[main]: Client: Cannot create image from data of file "animal_dm_mesh2.jpg" 23:44 codedevil Unsupported texture format 23:44 codedevil on debian 6 23:45 VanessaE brb 23:46 VanessaE bah. pain in my ass. 23:46 khonkhortisan I get Unsupported texture format also. 23:46 VanessaE xfce went full retard. 23:46 VanessaE codedevil, khonkhortisan: everyone gets that error 23:46 Uberi dang stupid library version incompatibilities 23:48 codedevil ah 23:48 codedevil well will the DM monster work? 23:48 codedevil is it ok to use finite fluids..? the ocean is strange looking with it 23:50 Uberi codedevil: yes the DM should work 23:53 codedevil question to who ever made the code that shows torches attached to walls 23:54 codedevil did you ever heard of bitboarding ;) 23:55 daspork yeah that person is a jerk.... what were they thinking donating their time! 23:56 codedevil yea 23:58 VanessaE kaeza: *poke* 23:58 kaeza wha 23:58 Exio hi 23:58 kaeza sup Exio 23:58 Exio nothing 23:58 VanessaE just a random poke, I need another tweak to homedecor :P 23:58 kaeza VanessaE, any problems with signs? 23:59 Exio does anyone here want to write an essay for me 23:59 kaeza heh 23:59 VanessaE not that I've noticed, but... 23:59 codedevil on what server are you all playing? or just local? 23:59 VanessaE can you make signs-with-fences extend to connect to neighboring fences? 23:59 Exio i don't play MT tbh 23:59 khonkhortisan I'm playing on VE's server 23:59 Exio because i like multiplayer but with my network it is impossible 23:59 Exio mc works way better thanks to the bunch of client-side prediction :( 23:59 kaeza Exio, code that n MT 23:59 kaeza in*