Time Nick Message 00:11 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Predict param2 of facedir nodes and attachment of attached_node nodes 865f380c91 2013-05-23T17:10:03-07:00 http://git.io/xCjM-g 00:13 PilzAdam bye 00:46 Guest27771 bleh 00:49 Kacey http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcmva5GmCp1rnz2hro1_400.gif swag 00:59 jojoa1997 RBA is your minecraft branch up to date wit latest? 01:04 kaeza interestingly, now I can't connect my modem under 'buntu :< 01:11 jojoa1997 how tdo i set texture pack 01:11 jojoa1997 ../textures/all/pack? 01:12 Exio texture 01:12 Exio pack 01:12 Exio ;D all the words to search in the minetest.conf.example 01:12 jojoa1997 i mean the ../ 01:12 jojoa1997 is ../ right? 01:12 Exio .. is the parent directory 01:13 kaeza texture_path = 01:15 jojoa1997 why is everything red? 01:15 Exio ah path 01:15 Exio not pack 01:15 Exio jojoa1997: disable shaders 01:15 Exio they don't work with directx / or with old hardware 01:15 jojoa1997 why? 01:16 kaeza why should them? 01:16 jojoa1997 what do shaders do and why cant i use them? 01:16 kaeza they are tired 01:16 kaeza they want to rest 01:16 Exio youcan't use them because you are using directx or an old igp/gpu 01:16 kaeza ... 01:16 Exio what is shitty and doesn't support shaders 01:16 Exio and they don't do much 01:17 Exio just light effects, very basics 01:17 Exio not worth them, yet 01:19 jojoa1997 sothen why is water clear without 01:19 jojoa1997 unless 01:19 kaeza ... 01:20 Exio water is not clear if you enable "Opaque Liquids" 01:20 Exio (or does it say water?) 01:20 Exio jojoa1997: you can try to understand what it does, test_shader_2 for water 01:20 Exio and liquids 01:20 Exio tl;dr they just apply the lighting 01:21 jojoa1997 wait 01:21 jojoa1997 i had a 4.4 download 01:21 jojoa1997 still red 01:21 Exio doesn't matter, you don't get it 01:21 jojoa1997 so does this mean no more shaders for me :( 01:21 jojoa1997 i do 01:21 Exio did they even work for you? 01:22 jojoa1997 what work? 01:22 Exio shaders 01:22 jojoa1997 yeah 01:22 Exio about what are we talking? 01:22 Exio jojoa1997: did you switch to directx? 01:22 jojoa1997 one sec 01:23 Exio uou shouldn't switch to directx, there are no shaders for it 01:23 jojoa1997 weird 01:23 jojoa1997 my normal copy shaders are fine 01:23 Exio haha 01:24 Exio gotit 01:24 Exio nvm 01:24 jojoa1997 PilzAdam's build of RBA's bumpmap thingy makes shaders break 01:26 jojoa1997 RealBadAngel do i need to enable shaders to make bipmapping to work? 01:27 * kaeza puts a spell checker on jojoa1997's head 01:28 jojoa1997 bipmapping 01:28 jojoa1997 isnt that it? 01:32 khonkhortisan bumpmapping or mipmapping? 01:32 jojoa1997 bumpmapping 01:32 jojoa1997 bipmapping is them combined 01:32 jojoa1997 blipmapping 01:32 khonkhortisan oh 01:33 jojoa1997 i am kidding 01:33 jojoa1997 bumpmapping is right 01:42 jojoa1997 VanessaE: maybe you should update your texture pack abridge ma to add the stuff added to the game. 01:45 Exio what new stuff got added? 01:45 jojoa1997 flowers obsidian 01:45 jojoa1997 tools 01:46 jojoa1997 doesn't UI disable creative? 01:47 jojoa1997 how do i disable creative 01:47 Exio rm -rf / 01:47 jojoa1997 ? 01:48 Exio nvm 01:49 jojoa1997 also mossy cobble and jungles were added 01:57 jojoa1997 night 02:34 * VanessaE peeks in 02:34 VanessaE someone tell jojoa that the only things I am aware of in default that is missing from HDX is the farming stuff, everything else should already be covered. 02:35 VanessaE regarding normalmaps, I have such already ready to add to HDX for about half of the default stuff, plus specularmaps. Further development of those is halted until RBA's code goes into main 02:35 VanessaE mainline* 02:36 VanessaE (I'd prefer to wait until we have real lighting, but if others insist or if I get tired of waiting, I'll push the new stuff early) 02:36 VanessaE and now I'm off again. 02:36 VanessaE back tomorrow. Night all. 05:48 khonkhortisan It should only let me build when I'm holding something in my hand - that'll get that animation bug fixed real' quick! 06:04 khonkhortisan When I set the view distance really low, I can't even see what I'm holding in my hand 06:35 xiong I have finally found a little gold... and it appears to have no practical application. I smelted it into gold ingots but I can make no tool or other object from the ingots; and they will not alloy with copper, bronze, or steel. 06:40 xiong Maybe something I haven't learned? 07:47 kahrl xiong: yep, in minetest_game the only use for gold right now is gold blocks for building 07:50 xiong Thanks, kahrl. I won't worry about it. I'm ashamed to say I got... excited. 07:51 xiong Guess it's more useful to find copper. Found quite a bit of it; I've switched to bronze tools. 07:52 xiong I notice a lot of blocks seem to have no application other than decorative construction. Is that the final goal or are there plans to build new crafting trees on them? 07:55 kahrl I don't know what the plans are but probably the goal is to add crafting interactions between currently unused items 07:56 kahrl in the meantime the solution is to install mods 08:23 xiong Thanks, kahrl. Right now, I've got enough to do with the game, stock. 08:23 xiong I'm still figuring out basic efficiencies: How to work a cavern, what to bring.... 08:30 FreeFull All blocks should be craftable back into their constitutents. Are they as of now? 08:32 kahrl you mean like gold blocks? I think they all are 08:33 Calinou FreeFull: you can't craft sticks to planks, or planks to trees 08:34 FreeFull I mean as in those blocks you make out of 9 of something 09:57 MJaoune what is the function in the sources for placing blocks with rightclick? 10:12 Zeg9 -_- http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Block_of_Coal << do they just copy us?? 10:15 Calinou old news 10:15 Calinou that block is 2 weeks old at least 10:15 Calinou it's fun, though 10:15 Calinou november 2011, some user reports "there are no blocks of redstone or coal" 10:15 Calinou jeb_ replies "not a bug" 10:15 Calinou 2013: redstone block added (1.5) 10:15 Calinou 2013 #2: coal block added (will be in 1.6) 10:17 Zeg9 Well our coal block is one month old 10:17 Zeg9 I wasn't here 2 weeks ago so I learnt that today... :p 10:18 Calinou may 2 2013, addition of block of coal 10:18 Calinou may 10, new texture, more asphalt-like 10:18 Zeg9 brb 10:19 Zeg9 Apr 22 2013, Zeg9 authored Add coal block 10:28 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 10:33 * Zeg9 is back 10:33 Zeg9 Hi PilzAdam ! 10:36 PilzAdam Zeg9, be sure to update the README if you contribute textures 10:36 Zeg9 I just read that, updating 10:38 Zeg9 PilzAdam, done 10:38 PilzAdam (same for MiniTest) 10:40 PilzAdam Zeg9, you also need to remove the entries from the other author lists :-) 10:40 Zeg9 (facepalm) I had only searched if there was a steel block entry... 10:42 Zeg9 @PilzAdam, done again :p 11:32 MJaoune what is the function for adding blocks with right click in the sources? 11:46 rubenwardy Hi dudes and dudesses 12:03 rubenwardy http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91559#p91559 12:03 rubenwardy [Fun] What is your favorite food? 12:14 xiong I don't grudge that nobody warned me about overhead gravel; I like it better that way. I am glad that the first time I saw some, I had considerable misgivings. 12:18 * rubenwardy just made a pasta bake texture 12:19 * rubenwardy and then realised their is not any pasta in the game 12:19 rubenwardy *there 12:21 rubenwardy this is useful: http://www.hongkiat.com/blog/pixel-art-tutorials/ 12:34 rubenwardy PilzAdam: Which mod do you think pasta should be in? https://github.com/rubenwardy/food/tree/version_2 12:35 rubenwardy I will add it to food 12:37 dante123 !up minetest.info.tm 12:37 MinetestBot minetest.info.tm:30000 is up (0.407s) 12:53 rubenwardy Food -!- #Add pasta bakes: https://github.com/rubenwardy/food/commit/fcb2dbf2e4ea674d3392c9e43ac4a746d8b95141 13:06 VanessaE hi all 13:06 MinetestBot GIT: CasimirKaPazi commited to minetest/minetest_game: Fix typo for droping seeds 814959cc28 2013-05-24T06:04:44-07:00 http://git.io/mfOGfw 13:07 rubenwardy ^ typo 13:08 rubenwardy droping -> dropping 13:08 rubenwardy irony? 13:08 PilzAdam VanessaE, what do you think about Zeg9's textures? 13:08 rubenwardy Hi VanessaE# 13:08 PilzAdam (for copper, steel and gold blocks) 13:08 VanessaE I haven't seen them 13:08 rubenwardy !title http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6084 13:08 MinetestBot rubenwardy: [Fun] What is your favorite food? (Page 1) — Offtopic — Minetest Forums 13:09 PilzAdam VanessaE, this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/163 13:09 VanessaE not bad! 13:10 VanessaE but if that yellow one is supposed to be gold, it needs toned down 13:10 VanessaE too much saturation, and it isn't "shiny" enough 13:10 VanessaE if the orange one is copper, it needs shifted slightly more toward pink 13:10 VanessaE the other two are good 13:13 rubenwardy What food should I do next? 13:13 VanessaE rubenwardy: how about a cheesecake :D 13:14 rubenwardy Good idea 13:14 rubenwardy I love cheesecake 13:14 PilzAdam my grandma can make the best cheesecake 13:16 rubenwardy yum http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/food/ic/food_16x9_608/recipes/how_to_make_cheesecake_30383_16x9.jpg 13:16 VanessaE PilzAdam: at any rate they're an improvement over the old ones for sure 13:18 rubenwardy PilzAdam: [citation neeeded] 13:19 PilzAdam not needed 13:19 xiong Is the map known to be consistent? I understand that not all the map is generated at once; I have to move within a certain range of initially-distant regions. Also, when I'm not nearby for some time, a region may be unloaded from memory. 13:20 xiong But is it always true that when I re-enter a region, it is as I left it (modulo natural processes)? 13:20 VanessaE rubenwardy: basic ingredients are cream cheese, sugar, lemon juice, graham crackers, strawberries 13:20 rubenwardy I am working on a texture 13:21 VanessaE (or Splenda™ if you're sugar-sensitive like me... . I forgot to mention that I can make a pretty good cheesecake....from a recipe! :D ) 13:21 PilzAdam xiong, the map is saved in a sqlite database 13:21 PilzAdam every 2.3 seconds or so 13:22 xiong I hoped it was saved to disk, PilzAdam. Is this known to be consistent? Known to be buggy? Or somewhere in between? 13:22 PilzAdam it is very stable 13:22 xiong Ah, I'm checking because I seem to be approaching a region from two different directions and seeing something different. My first assumption was that my navigation was in error. 13:23 PilzAdam and compatibility with things that are saved to disk are one of the most important things of development 13:23 xiong Excellent, PilzAdam; glad to hear it. I'd rather be wrong than live in a glitchy world. 13:24 PilzAdam FYI, worlds are saved in $path_user/worlds// 13:25 xiong Nav is very tough. I'd rather understand the basic game well before I load up on mods... but if there's a nav mod, with map and compass and, preferably, a barometric altimeter; I will use it. 13:25 PilzAdam you can find the map.sqlite there 13:25 xiong I'm not going to question you on the map, friend. I trust you. 13:25 PilzAdam you can press F5 to see your coordinates 13:25 xiong *headdesk* 13:25 xiong It's that easy?? 13:26 xiong Or is that considered a cheat? 13:26 PilzAdam well, some people see it as a cheat 13:27 PilzAdam in 0.3 was it always displayed 13:28 xiong Hm. Peculiar choice of coordinates; the vertical axis second in the triplet... and sea level at 1.5 13:28 xiong Oh. 13:28 xiong That's my height, right? 13:29 xiong My eye level is 1.5 m above sea level when I'm at the shore. 13:29 PilzAdam the format is (X,Y,Z), where Y is the height 13:29 rubenwardy Ugh 13:29 rubenwardy My cheese cake texture is ugly 13:29 PilzAdam your coordinates are at your feet 13:29 PilzAdam (1.8m under the eye level) 13:30 rubenwardy http://ubuntuone.com/3YGO1zlbpSauKvUEFA0AkG 13:30 xiong Well, I'm not sure I understand then; why should I read 1.5 when my feet are level with the surface of the sea? 13:31 PilzAdam maybe the water level isnt at 0? 13:31 xiong Well, that's what I mean by peculiar choice. 13:31 xiong Erm, what I meant, then thought I had explained it away, but now you say not, so.... 13:32 xiong Google Image search for 'cheesecake' is fattening. 13:33 xiong Let me get back to my task, thanks PilzAdam. 13:40 rubenwardy Food -!- Add cheese cake: https://github.com/rubenwardy/food/commit/580bfb7cb644c49b3598b7e052f39ee0c5aa09e4 13:41 rubenwardy VanessaE ^ 13:42 * rubenwardy is now making waffles... 13:44 xiong Thanks again, PilzAdam; I was able to reconcile with the F5 nav. I was off by just a couple blocks. 13:50 VanessaE Zeg9: can you add something to the loading screen that shows the progress while reading the media cache as well as rendering the textures? 13:50 Zeg9 Ah. I was wondering what was this "freeze" time between media and item textures... 13:51 VanessaE (e.g. treat a cached item as though it had just been rendered, so one progress bar to cover both) 13:51 VanessaE and show a percentage 14:13 Zeg9 VanessaE: Seems this is in the "ProcessData" function which handles the received packets, I'm not sure it's a good idea to put rendering steps there... 14:13 VanessaE there needs to be some kind of progress. 14:37 rubenwardy http://youtu.be/RzFnV3vwqD0 14:37 rubenwardy Very interesting 14:45 PilzAdam Zeg9, read logs about what VanessaE thinks about your metal block textures 14:59 bas080 rubenwardy, lol in the netherlands man woman relations are allowed! 14:59 rubenwardy hmmm 14:59 bas080 it's just a phase :P 15:00 Zeg9 VanessaE: the orange one is bronze 15:09 VanessaE it's too saturated for bronze 15:09 VanessaE gold also. 15:10 Jordach VanessaE, theyre nice 15:10 Jordach but they can be tuned afterwards 15:12 Zeg9 It's hard to have them still look like gold and bronze when less saturated 15:13 Zeg9 Especially in a 16x16 texture :/ 15:15 VanessaE they just need a little tweak, maybe 25% less at most. 15:15 Jordach VanessaE, i say merge it 15:16 VanessaE merge it, regardless. 15:16 Jordach (i'll fix it later.) 15:16 bas080 Why not make gold stand-out by changing the texture considerably. 15:16 VanessaE I'm just saying they should be tuned first if possible. 15:16 Jordach why don't we have gold tools? 15:16 bas080 Jordach, because we are not minecraft :P 15:17 Jordach and? we have diamond tools? 15:19 Zeg9 VanessaE: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-24052013-171830.php 15:20 VanessaE much better 15:20 Zeg9 What do you think? 15:20 VanessaE now, 15:20 VanessaE on the gold, try to make it "shiny" 15:21 Zeg9 I don't really see how to, on a 16x16 one :/ Maybe a gradient? 15:21 Zeg9 Or lines like on glass and old textures 15:21 VanessaE add a layer of noise set to "lighten only" 15:21 VanessaE fairly strong value, the noise should be pure greyscale 15:23 VanessaE the idea being you want to add subtle light-colored (pale yellow to white) speckles 15:25 Zeg9 With greyscale it just makes white dots... Is that what you think about? 15:25 VanessaE yes 15:25 VanessaE but use the "lighten only" layer composite mode 15:25 VanessaE that way you get only those dots that are at least as bright as the yellow 15:27 Zeg9 In lighten only it makes white dots... or am I supposed to change the white in the layer to yellow? 15:32 VanessaE no, leave it white, but make sure the noise is greyscale, not pure white/black 15:33 VanessaE if you need to, adjust the contrast of the noise (lower it, maybe) 15:39 Zeg9 VanessaE: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-24052013-173800.php 15:39 Zeg9 I don't think it's supposed to look like that... 15:39 Calinou call it "block of gold with silver on it" 15:39 PilzAdam we can use it as snow and goldblock 15:39 PilzAdam so we save one texture file... 15:40 Zeg9 Yeah 15:40 Zeg9 +1 for snow and goldblock ;) 15:40 PilzAdam lets call it: default_snoldblock.png 15:41 Zeg9 Or it could be crafted with snow+gold as a (stupid) easter egg 15:42 Zeg9 What about this ? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-24052013-174123.php 15:42 Calinou stupid easter eggs are so 2011 15:43 PilzAdam 2011 is so 2012 15:43 VanessaE Zeg9: almost 15:44 VanessaE Zeg9: make the noise peek through a little more, make the noise slightly higher contrast 15:44 Zeg9 in fact I just changed the opacity, was simpler 15:44 Calinou and 2012 is so 2011, PilzAdam :P 15:44 VanessaE (the screenshot in gimp was certainly too much :D ) 15:44 VanessaE Zeg9: be sure you apply it to the edges of the block also 15:47 Zeg9 hmm http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-24052013-174554.php ? 15:47 VanessaE bash yes 15:47 VanessaE that's good 15:47 VanessaE oops 15:47 VanessaE heh, bash in the wrong window :D 15:47 VanessaE Zeg9: that looks good. Go with that. 15:47 Zeg9 Alright 15:48 PilzAdam you, I havent noticed any difference in the last screenshots 15:48 PilzAdam +know 15:48 PilzAdam but whateve 15:48 VanessaE I can see them 15:48 PilzAdam +r 15:48 Jordach markveidemanis, if this is python, goto #python 15:48 Jordach ^ i need a auto script for this 15:48 Zeg9 There are differences, edges and alpha value :p 15:50 PilzAdam have you pushed to your branch yet? 15:50 Zeg9 Just did 15:53 PilzAdam done 15:53 MinetestBot GIT: Zeg9 commited to minetest/minetest_game: New metal block textures dfad095884 2013-05-24T08:52:36-07:00 http://git.io/ryYO1Q 15:54 Zeg9 Thanks 8) 15:54 PilzAdam now make more MiniTest textures ;-) 16:08 Jordach anyone want a batch of pokemon npc skins (includes players) 16:09 Calinou no 16:10 Jordach Calinou, im bored :) 16:10 Calinou watch MLP then 16:10 * Calinou gives horrible tips, he knows 16:11 * Zeg9 just installed flash just to get rick roll'd >:( 16:11 * Calinou always has flash installed 16:11 Jordach Calinou used flash 16:11 Jordach OH DEAR GOD 16:11 Jordach D: 16:13 Calinou to watch MLP 16:13 Calinou logic 16:13 PilzAdam gnash 16:13 * PilzAdam hides 16:14 Jordach lol, gnash 16:14 Calinou gnash, the nouveau of flash players 16:14 Calinou just like nouveau, it doesn't work for MLP 16:16 Zeg9 Sorry but... MLP = My Little Pony ? or I am missing something. 16:18 Jordach Zeg9, points 16:18 Zeg9 ... 16:19 Jordach (correct) 16:23 Jordach hello tablet user! 16:23 jojoa1997|Tablet Tablet user! 16:23 jojoa1997|Tablet hello 16:23 Jordach ninja'd 16:25 jojoa1997|Tablet So i think someone should add the optifine pull request. It would be a really good feature 16:26 PilzAdam no, its too cheaty 16:27 jojoa1997|Tablet what do you mean too cheaty 16:27 jojoa1997|Tablet why is zooming in cheaty? 16:27 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, this isnt minecraft 16:27 PilzAdam servers cant prevent clients from zooming in 16:27 jojoa1997|Tablet Zooming is not in minecraft :P 16:27 PilzAdam and its a cheat in survival gameplay 16:28 jojoa1997|Tablet first why a cheat in survival? explain? second Jordach the zooming comes with a mod in Minecraft. 16:28 PilzAdam are you really that stupid? 16:28 PilzAdam do you think zooming is realistic? 16:28 jojoa1997|Tablet yeah 16:28 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, !op 16:29 Jordach PilzAdam, * 16:29 jojoa1997|Tablet let me say why 16:29 jojoa1997|Tablet first look at something close. You see it normal. Then look at something far away. Your eye naturally zooms 16:29 jojoa1997|Tablet in 16:30 Calinou it doesn't 16:30 RealBadAngel i would love to have zooming 16:30 Calinou how about you study some science 16:30 Calinou focusing != zooming 16:30 PilzAdam ^ 16:30 Calinou minetest is probably not going to have DoF 16:30 RealBadAngel but for sake of possible fps shooter game 16:31 RealBadAngel sniper riffle 16:31 Zeg9 It would be better to be able to change FOV from server side 16:31 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, you need an API function for that 16:31 jojoa1997|Tablet nvm human eyes only focus on farther or clser stuff 16:31 PilzAdam and IIRC the pull request doesnt have it 16:31 RealBadAngel there was pull for it 16:31 RealBadAngel yeah 16:32 RealBadAngel so lets add lua way to control it 16:32 RealBadAngel and then merge 16:32 jojoa1997|Tablet But having zoom would be nice for example kaeza's firearms mod or binocular mod 16:32 Zeg9 jojoa, read ^... 16:32 PilzAdam but after scriptapi split is merged 16:32 RealBadAngel ok 16:33 jojoa1997|Tablet ok then how about someone do it. Don't ask me i have finals to worry about. Also this solution came up 2 months ago when the pull request was made 16:33 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, remember, only revise for 20 mins 16:33 Jordach then do something else 16:33 Jordach then comeback 16:33 PilzAdam jojoa1997|Tablet, seems like nobody who can code it wants it 16:34 Jordach the human mind cant hold more than 20 mins of info 16:34 RealBadAngel and dont ask us neither, we already have our own goals and ongoing projects 16:34 jojoa1997|Tablet i am not 16:34 Calinou eg. nouveau reclocking 16:35 jojoa1997|Tablet and Jordach i have super good memory. I have remembered more than 30 minutes of a book so HAH! 16:35 jojoa1997|Tablet who here can compile and uses windows? If you do what do you use to compile? 16:36 RealBadAngel 30 minutes of a book? what kind of measure system is that? 16:36 PilzAdam "on windows" or "for windows"? 16:36 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, I guess people of that age hear to books rather than reading real books ;-) 16:36 RealBadAngel lol 16:37 RealBadAngel for me 900 pages "Silmarillion" is for two evenings 16:37 jojoa1997|Tablet on windows 16:37 RealBadAngel but i do read it 16:37 jojoa1997|Tablet i love reading paper copy books 16:37 jojoa1997|Tablet how dare you say i dont 16:37 Jordach ^ uses kindle app 16:38 jojoa1997|Tablet also i read as much as i can when not on minetest or doing homework 16:38 RealBadAngel nothing compares to real paper 16:38 jojoa1997|Tablet RealBadAngel +2 16:38 RealBadAngel i also have a reader, but using it rarely 16:38 jojoa1997|Tablet anyone interested? http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91577#p91577 16:38 jojoa1997|Tablet and i sometimes use my nexus but that is for school books 16:39 RealBadAngel if i have no choice, all my books are read enough times, none is screamin "read me again, please" 16:39 RealBadAngel then im using my tablet to read somethin new 16:40 Zeg9 Is grass renewable yet ? 16:41 PilzAdam Zeg9, yes 16:41 PilzAdam it grows like flowers 16:41 Zeg9 k 16:41 RealBadAngel offtopic, i just tried moon flower by Taoki 16:42 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, imho you shall merge it 16:42 PilzAdam merge what? 16:42 RealBadAngel moon flower 16:42 jojoa1997|Tablet so anyone interested in that texture pack? 16:43 RealBadAngel its cool in my opinion 16:43 PilzAdam Exio, I need your statement once again 16:43 jojoa1997|Tablet having flowers close at nice would be neat 16:43 RealBadAngel and pretty original idea for new content 16:43 RealBadAngel this one opens at night only 16:44 jojoa1997|Tablet and you can make recipes that need flowers to be harvested at night 16:44 jojoa1997|Tablet maybe make all the flowers open and close 16:44 Zeg9 Didn't try it yet but it really looks great 16:44 RealBadAngel it is very original content 16:44 RealBadAngel and deserves to be merged 16:44 jojoa1997|Tablet yes 16:45 jojoa1997|Tablet maybe add a sun flower while at it? and a flower that opens at dawn and dusk? 16:45 RealBadAngel it is not another brick or color variation 16:45 jojoa1997|Tablet i mean one opens at dusk and another at dawn 16:46 Jordach anyone interested in a new skin? http://imgur.com/a/ExeX2 16:46 Calinou no shading :| 16:46 jojoa1997|Tablet what do you guys think of having 2 layers to a player? 16:46 Jordach Calinou, the gba had pretty much ocd like styling 16:47 Zeg9 Nice skin 16:47 jojoa1997|Tablet one for clothes and hair and the other for the skin itself 16:47 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/OapBLIO.jpg 16:47 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, we currently have MC skin usage 16:47 jojoa1997|Tablet not really 16:47 Jordach bin that and the skinners fuck off to MC again 16:47 Calinou lol RealBadAngel 16:47 Zeg9 jojoa, that is an interesting idea. But it would require to change all the skin textures 16:47 RealBadAngel bring new models, not skins ;) 16:48 * Calinou brings pony model 16:48 Calinou sorry, no IQM support :( 16:48 jojoa1997|Tablet minecraft actually has a second layer above for armor and stuff like hair 16:48 Jordach jojoa1997|Tablet, see armour mod 16:48 Calinou there is an hat layer in minetest 16:48 Jordach a* 16:48 Zeg9 There was a pull request about 2 textures for one model, that may help 16:48 Calinou armour mod overlays textures in a 2D way 16:48 Calinou doesn't work with HD textures or skins 16:48 jojoa1997|Tablet Jordach minecraft has 3d armor so our models are no the same 16:48 Calinou we REALLY need scaling for overlays 16:48 RealBadAngel minetest can load ANY model exported from blender 16:48 RealBadAngel together with textures 16:49 Calinou no idea if there's a .blend of xonotic pony model 16:49 jojoa1997|Tablet the problem is that minecraft makes the model in the code not with a blender model 16:50 Calinou true 16:51 jojoa1997|Tablet https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=minecraft%20default%20player%20blend%20file&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.minecraftforum.net%2Ftopic%2F1262569-11-blender-model-minecraft-player-%25E2%2580%2593-compatible-with-blender-26%2F&ei=Y5qfUZLyIYXYqgGOl4CgCg&usg=AFQjCNE72C0gBRRXjX0tcc9WS-pbRmwrLw&bvm=bv.47008514,d.aWM 16:51 Zeg9 Nice url 16:52 RealBadAngel dwarf you could see on the screenshot was just copied from irrlicht examples 16:52 RealBadAngel renamed to character.x 16:52 RealBadAngel and loaded 16:52 RealBadAngel without any modifications to mt engine 16:52 Zeg9 by the way which format do they use in their examples ? .x? 16:53 RealBadAngel irrlicht can load many formats 16:53 Zeg9 This is why I ask in their example 16:53 RealBadAngel own,3ds, quake, x and many more 16:53 jojoa1997|Tablet I have to go but 16:54 Calinou "quake" is not a model format, thank you 16:54 Calinou md2 and md3 are 16:54 Calinou :) 16:54 RealBadAngel compile irrlicht examples and check example 09 mesh viever 16:54 jojoa1997|Tablet I know I have a blender model of the player. I will check to see if animation work 16:54 RealBadAngel what it can load and sho 16:54 RealBadAngel *show 16:54 jojoa1997|Tablet If it does I will upload it somewhere 16:55 jojoa1997|Tablet Cya 16:56 * Zeg9 is counting how many "bedrocks" he placed in minitest thinking it was a coal bloc 16:56 Zeg9 +k 16:56 RealBadAngel i was able during test to load and show in minetest any model i had in blender 16:56 RealBadAngel i exported it to .x 16:57 RealBadAngel if i made screenshots for those PilzAdam propably will hate me more 16:57 RealBadAngel i loaded there planes, boats whatever i could find on net 16:57 Calinou by the way, in minitest, bedrock should generate at -64 16:57 Calinou not -256 :P 16:57 Calinou if you wanted the exact same depth 16:58 Calinou and if you wanted to go more minecrafty, put an invisible, non-solid but not buildable_to block at +192 16:58 Calinou (building height) 16:59 PilzAdam really, -64 only? 17:00 Zeg9 Yes 17:00 Zeg9 In minecraft water level is at +64 while 0 is the last bedrock layer 17:00 Calinou 62 to be exact 17:00 Calinou there are 5 bedrock layers 17:01 Calinou layer 1 is constant bedrock, while layers 2-5 are in a "noisy" pattern, blocks at layer 2 being more common than on layer 5 17:02 Zeg9 PilzAdam: btw our copper texture would fit better for minitest iron 17:03 PilzAdam Zeg9, put it in your next pull request :-) 17:07 Zeg9 PilzAdam: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-24052013-190650.php 17:07 Zeg9 is this bedrock ok? 17:08 PilzAdam looks a lot like MC 17:08 PilzAdam so, yes 17:21 Calinou nice, +1 17:21 Calinou by the way, dirt should have a bit more contrast, Zeg9 17:22 Zeg9 Calinou, did you see this screenshot? http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-24052013-111943.php 17:23 Calinou ah 17:23 Calinou it should be a bit darker then 17:25 PilzAdam ok, new building height and bedrock depth done 17:25 Zeg9 Gold ore and stone bricks: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-24052013-192438.php 17:26 Calinou PilzAdam: make sure the building height block has sunlight_propagates = true and walkable = false 17:26 Zeg9 Stone bricks aren't really like minecraft ones but it looks good imo 17:26 Calinou and drawtype airlike 17:26 Calinou I like the stone bricks 17:26 Calinou gold should be more orange-ish, it's american cheese :P 17:27 Zeg9 Why not american cheese ore ? :P 17:28 * Zeg9 hides 17:31 * Jordach considers to download minitest to see what this ruckus is about 17:34 PilzAdam Jordach, maybe wait, its currently in development 17:34 Jordach PilzAdam, nope.avi 17:34 RealBadAngel Zeg9, whats so nice in another 16px? i cant understand that at all ;) 17:35 Jordach i'll support it as it comes 17:35 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, sooooooo? 17:36 RealBadAngel can we have moon flower and glowing dye? 17:36 Calinou RealBadAngel: minecraft-style pack 17:37 drizz have anyone else experienced problems with rendering performance? 17:37 RealBadAngel Calinou, i know, but i was always afer at least 128 or more 17:37 * PilzAdam found diamonds in minitest 17:38 Zeg9 Nice, if they are as rare as in minecraft... 17:38 Zeg9 Moon flower would really be great... 17:38 RealBadAngel the problem with dowscaling is you can dowscale higher res images down to x32 17:38 RealBadAngel and still look pretty the same 17:38 Calinou drizz: no 17:38 drizz weird 17:38 Calinou lspci | grep VGA 17:39 drizz I'm on windoze 17:39 Calinou ah 17:39 Zeg9 When you downscale to 16x16 it's not the samething though :D 17:39 RealBadAngel but when hittin 16x.... failure 17:39 Calinou what's your graphics card? try updating your driver 17:39 drizz latest, gtx 680 17:39 drizz can't even get above 30 fps in some angles + places 17:39 Calinou dat pigeon card 17:39 Calinou drizz: did you press "R"? 17:39 Jordach drizz, are you using unstable or stable 17:39 Calinou that toggles full range 17:40 drizz yes, improves fps in some cases and then just drops again 17:40 drizz Jordach: stable I believe 17:40 Jordach drizz, try setting this into the minetest.conf: video_driver = direct3d9 17:40 drizz already tried that 17:40 drizz no difference 17:40 Jordach remove that line 17:40 Jordach and disable the graphic effects in the settings tab 17:40 drizz tried opengl, software and direct3d9 17:41 drizz direct3d8 just crashes the client 17:41 drizz I'll try one if the unofficial builds, moment 17:41 khonkhortisan *builds while flying* *server restarts* *rejoins* *slams into the structure because flying automatically turned off* 17:42 Calinou drizz: check your card temps 17:42 Calinou also, what's your CPU? 17:42 Calinou if you have a very slow CPU you might be CPU limited 17:42 drizz FX8350 17:42 drizz :p 17:43 drizz could be cpu-bound if minetest doesn't do multithreading 17:50 drizz either I'm going crazy, someone's been busy or the map data is slowly deteriorating O.o 17:50 Zeg9 Ore blocks for minitest: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/capturedcran-24052013-194922.php 17:57 xiong I see a large room; lava is pouring from a hole in the roof. The floor is entirely covered in flowing lava. 18:01 sfan5 someone scan this qr code: http://is.gd/r3QWqX 18:02 Zeg9 PilzAdam, why did you add my textures to minitest, now I have a git mess up ... :-D 18:04 spafbi Okay... I've only spent a short amount of time on looking up answers to this, but I haven't found any suitable solutions... is there a way to specify a different avatar? 18:05 RealBadAngel spafbi, where? 18:05 RealBadAngel ingame? 18:06 spafbi I'd like to be able to specify a different avatar for each player... can be done either on the client or server (as I control all of them for my server). 18:06 Zeg9 spafbi, see the mods player_textures or skins 18:06 spafbi Thanks... I'll go take a peek. 18:06 Zeg9 skins provides a gui for players while player_textures lets the choice to the admin* 18:06 Calinou drizz: you should get 60+FPS just fine with a 8350 18:06 Calinou again, pigeon CPU, the 8320 does the same thing once you put it at 4ghz :p 18:08 Zeg9 Weird, my branch doesn't show up in github... 18:09 * PilzAdam has problems too 18:09 PilzAdam (with github) 18:09 PilzAdam it took 3 minutes to show the commit I pushed 18:09 Zeg9 When I go to Zeg9/MiniTest/tree/textures2 I see the commit but there is no commit log or anything 18:10 Zeg9 oh. commits/textures2 worked 18:11 Zeg9 time to edit readme... 18:13 spafbi PilzAdam... The player_textures mod... does the png need to be 16x32, or just that ratio? 18:13 PilzAdam ehm... 18:13 PilzAdam dunno 18:13 spafbi Hah! Love it. I'll try multiple images and let you know. 18:15 Zeg9 spafbi: ratio only, the size doesn't matter but power of two is better 18:16 spafbi Thanks, Zeg9. 18:20 Zeg9 I probably won't do any more texture for today, so https://github.com/PilzAdam/MiniTest/pull/7 18:30 Exio PilzAdam: aww 18:30 tswett Ahoy. 18:31 Exio this seems the only with a good performance in linux with a fx is me 18:33 tswett So I'm trying to compile Minetest on OS X, and I'm getting this error: 'Unknown CMake command "create_search_paths".' I did a Google search, and it looks like I need to disable OpenGLES. 18:33 tswett How do I do that? 18:34 sfan5 http://www.reddit.com/r/photoshopbattles/comments/1eycwl/yawning_dog_and_awkward_friend/ca51r43 lol 18:42 xiong Of what possible use is this lava? I don't seem to be able to pick up flowing lava in a bucket; I expect I will need to locate the source block. Wiki says a lava bucket will smelt for double the time of a tree; this is better but not extraordinary or worth the risk. Believe me, I'm impressed; I'm already wondering about the feasibility of building a glass house on top of a lava flow. But what's the standard use? 18:53 PilzAdam Zeg9|away, merged 18:53 * PilzAdam has uber l33t git skills ;-) 19:02 Zeg9|away Good job, PilzAdam ;) 19:02 PilzAdam ME WANT MOAR TEXTURES! 19:04 * Zeg9 thinks tnt recipe should yield more tnt with all the gunpowder and sand it uses 19:04 Calinou do it like in MC: 1 tnt 19:05 Calinou everything is underpowered in minecraft, deal with it 19:05 DS_ I like TNT :D 19:05 Zeg9 Well if it's done like this in mc... 19:11 Jordach has anyone considered a chess mod? with actual chess pieces? 19:11 Jordach (you could use the player model with different skins) 19:16 Zeg9|away Jordach iirc bas080 made one 19:16 Jordach Zeg9|away, /nick Zeg9 19:16 Zeg9|away No, I'm coming away again :P 19:17 PilzAdam Zeg9|away, away nicks are evil >:-( 19:18 DS_ theres already a DS, so im DS_ 19:18 PilzAdam why no 3DS? 19:18 DS_ but i want to be me 19:18 DS_ no 19:19 bas0801 DS_ is a beautiful nickname 19:19 DS_ thx :D 19:19 bas0801 it does the job 19:19 DS_ yes 19:19 PilzAdam why not DSunderscore ? 19:19 DS_ ? 19:20 bas0801 That nick could be used for one that wants to use DS_ and notices that it is taken 19:28 * kaeza yawns 19:28 kaeza greetings 19:30 xiong Well, I've found one use for lava: natural selection. 19:32 kaeza + griefing 19:32 kaeza + decoration 19:33 PilzAdam + making it finite to annoy people 19:33 Jordach well, i've just started to animate my model 19:33 PilzAdam the last one is copyright 2012 by PilzAdam 19:33 Jordach actually, i like the finite part 19:33 kaeza PilzAdam, 2013 I think 19:35 * kaeza left a 100 MB file downloading for the night ; got cut ar ~95MB :( 19:35 Jordach trolololol 19:37 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=91646#p91646 19:37 Calinou Jordach: wrong 19:37 Calinou laptops support the same opengl versions as desktop cards 19:37 Calinou and cheap win8 tablets, however, won't if they have ARM CPUs :P 19:37 Calinou except if you consider the surface pro cheap :P 19:40 xiong Well, kaeza, I'm not ready for multiplayer yet; when I am, I hope I'm playing with others who are also trying to get along. I do suppose a couple buckets of lava would end just about any battle. 19:41 kaeza xiong, these will end it even sooner, trust me: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4562 19:42 DS_ who is german? 19:42 * DS_ 19:43 DS_ short afk 19:43 Menche having problems with stairsplus / moreblocks 19:43 Menche updated to the merged version -> unknown nodes everywhere 19:45 Menche vertical slabs, panels, and flipped stairs are unknown 19:45 DS_ status:not afk 19:45 DS_ thats a problem 19:46 kahrl DS_: #minetest-de 19:46 Jordach PilzAdam, 20:46:09: ERROR[main]: ServerError: LuaError: error running function 'on_step': 19:46 Jordach ...stuff-win32\bin\..\games\minetest_game\mods\mobs/api.lua:206: attempt to comp 19:46 Jordach are number with nil 19:46 Jordach 20:46:09: ERROR[main]: stack traceback: 19:46 Menche lol 19:46 ImQ009 lel 19:47 Menche *ShadowBot hates Jordach 19:47 kahrl ShadowBot hates pastes 19:47 Jordach ShadowBot is useless 19:47 kaeza ShadowBot hates pings 19:47 Jordach if you cant even type irc commands, then youre fucking lazy 19:48 Jordach that means you PilzAdam 19:48 Jordach if you cant even bother with chanserv 19:48 PilzAdam Note: ChanServ wont even give me OP in this channel 19:48 Jordach guess what, im going to leave minetest permanently, not because of the community 19:48 Jordach i have other things in life to be doing 19:50 ShadowNinja LOL kaeza. It hates >= 10 per message. ;-) 19:50 Calinou Menche: erm 19:50 Calinou why didn't you follow other updates :P 19:50 Calinou you could try reverting to an older moreblocks version 19:50 Calinou then wait for it to convert stuff 19:51 Jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698052/ 19:51 Jordach PilzAdam, ^ 19:51 Calinou TIL Jordach's real name 19:51 Calinou isn't it "jordan" though 19:52 PilzAdam Jordach, you have to define a view_range for your mob 19:52 Menche Calinou: so I'd have to revert to an older version and have all mapblocks loaded before i can update? 19:53 Calinou :/ 19:57 Menche lol, this isn't good 19:58 Menche half the stairsplus stuff got replaced with a differently oriented version, and the other half is still unknown 19:58 xiong Hey! I just mined my first mese crystal! 19:58 Calinou cool story bro 19:59 Calinou :> <: :> <: :> 19:59 Calinou Menche: how many stairsplus nodes do you have 19:59 * Jordach tries to get this right 19:59 DS_ when i mined my first mese, it was the old mese 19:59 xiong "Weapons now throw spent cases." Like that attention to detail, kaeza. 19:59 Jordach when i mined my first mese, it had a silly texture 20:00 Menche flipped stairs are now no longer flipped 20:00 xiong The ore block *does* have a silly texture. 20:00 DS_ so bad wasnt the texture 20:00 DS_ of the mese 20:00 Menche ok, it seems i reverted to before the changes 20:01 Menche things seem to work now 20:01 Menche however, the stuff that was flipped around is still flipped 20:02 DS_ please all german people press "/join#minetest-de" 20:03 Jordach ugh 20:03 Jordach my model is seriously needing more weight painting 20:24 Calinou Menche: well, use screwdriver to rotate :| 20:25 Calinou I'm surprised the conversion doesn't work 20:26 Calinou night 20:27 thexyz wow, maze party? 20:28 Jordach http://paste.ubuntu.com/5698170/ 20:28 Jordach any time i attempt to load any world 20:28 Calinou maze party? 20:28 Jordach but subsequent loads work 20:29 kaeza thexyz, ? 20:30 thexyz oh, well, I guess that was only sent to developers 20:30 Jordach is Taoki about? 20:30 Calinou read: he sees his mobo as a maze, probably 20:30 Calinou if we highlight Taoki three times, he will summon 20:30 Calinou now we highlighted him twice 20:31 Jordach kaeza, do it 20:31 kaeza Taoki! 20:31 Calinou let's just say "decals on mapmodels" to highlight him for the 3rd time 20:31 thexyz https://www.google.com/calendar/render?eid=MzRmbWh2NzBha2htYzRoNzZlamFwNWhjc28gMTVuOWlhOG1nNHJrcXM0cGl0ZmY1OWNtczhAZw&ctz=America/New_York&pli=1&gsessionid=H-V28eh6hkqRawmQFyY39A&sf=true&output=xml 20:31 Jordach SPAM! 20:31 Calinou need to log in :< 20:33 Jordach Taoki, ah, school boy error 20:34 Jordach the model had a strange positioning 20:34 thexyz http://planetlinuxcaffe.com/minetest-party-for-kids/ 20:34 * Jordach re-exports 20:34 kaeza Planet Linux Caffe is hosting a Minetest (Minecraft clone) Party.. The theme of the party is ‘building mazes and traps’ in the open source game called Minetest (Minetest.net). 20:35 thexyz anyone? 20:35 Jordach cant go there 20:35 PilzAdam thexyz, seems they send it to all core devs 20:35 thexyz PilzAdam: yes 20:35 PilzAdam well, not kahrl 20:35 thexyz Jordach: same for me 20:37 * Jordach pokes Taoki 20:39 Calinou his laptop is currently resuming from suspend... 20:40 Calinou ...still resuming 20:40 Calinou ...still resuming 20:40 Calinou kernel panic caused by catalyst 20:40 Calinou 20:44 Jordach hold on... 20:44 Jordach might have fixed my model by accident 20:44 Jordach :PO 20:44 Jordach \o/ 20:45 Calinou how to use your bandwidth: open this page: http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=3419 20:46 Menche why must hybrid dog use weird gimp effects on all of his screenshots?! 20:48 Calinou hybrid dog logic 20:48 Calinou "hybrid" has no logic, look at hybrid graphics :) 20:48 Calinou night for real now 20:49 kaeza Menche, he is in love with GIMP 20:54 Exio [13:31:33] and IIRC the pull request doesnt have it 20:54 Exio the pull request doesn't do anything related with the mod api or a proper way 20:54 Exio i'm still waiting for the merge of the api-stuff of sapier 21:10 sfan5 good night 21:10 Exio night sfan5 21:35 Kacey bbiab 22:42 Gambit VanessaE: He's back with a new IP. Just a heads up. 22:47 ShadowNinja Gambit: Took this long? I had an issue with someone with dozens of entirely different IPs. I ended up quieting webchat for a while. 22:48 ShadowNinja Also, a lot of the bans here are probably old and unneeded now. 22:49 ShadowNinja 22 now... 22:50 ShadowNinja VanessaE: Can some of the bans be removed? Or are they all still relevant? 22:51 Kacey bbl 22:55 MinetestBot GIT: Sapier at GMX dot net commited to minetest/minetest: Move scriptapi to separate folder (by sapier) ab43377577 2013-05-24T15:51:02-07:00 http://git.io/Ktlm6w 23:00 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Replace minetest.env: with minetest. 31a74ede18 2013-05-24T15:40:03-07:00 http://git.io/ELohzw 23:02 sokomine hi 23:04 ShadowNinja *groan* Every one of my mods is going to spam me with warnings for a month... 23:05 kahrl how so? 23:05 PilzAdam ShadowNinja, warnings are only printed once to infostream 23:05 PilzAdam that is not visible in default configuration 23:06 PilzAdam (for the minetest.env: -> minetest. transiton) 23:06 ShadowNinja Oh, ok good. 23:09 khonkhortisan Can I turn off entities in my client? 23:11 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Remove add_firefly() and add_rat() 866f7b841c 2013-05-24T16:10:32-07:00 http://git.io/uKQwFQ 23:14 * kaeza finds interesting how people post "PLZ HALP!!!" and "I need help ASAP!!" in topics, and it takes 2 weeks for them to respond 23:15 kaeza (once one points to a solution, that is) 23:16 StarBlessed Thats if they respond at all ;) 23:20 khonkhortisan I just noticed I can hold down right click 23:20 PilzAdam bye 23:21 StarBlessed Ummm... bye? 23:24 xiong I observe that glass brick is best industrial quality. Jump on it, drop gravel on it from a height... no problem. 23:34 ShadowNinja xiong: Well they are a meter thick...