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00:03 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Fix memory leak in MeshUpdateThread 9397b5de08 2013-05-17T16:52:18-07:00 http://git.io/HShISQ
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00:45 PilzAdam bye
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01:27 Kacey Uberi, hi
01:27 Uberi o/
01:27 Kacey i read the mesecons basics article
01:27 Uberi oh?
01:27 Kacey ya
01:28 Uberi how was it?
01:28 Kacey pretty good
01:28 Kacey you missed 2 spots on where the mesecon powers
01:28 Uberi where?
01:29 Kacey above and below
01:29 Uberi it doesn't
01:29 Kacey i will show you screenshots
01:30 Uberi btw, did anyone get to test the latest mesecons with burnt luacontrollers?
01:30 Uberi ShadowNinja: I remember you were requesting them
01:31 Kacey ... have to figure out how i did it again
01:32 Kacey gotit
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01:32 Uberi http://i.imgur.com/70CDQCY.png
01:33 Kacey http://i.imgur.com/Kt6Fv95.png
01:33 Uberi hmm
01:33 Kacey ^_^
01:33 Kacey lol jk it is a trick i know
01:34 Uberi yeah it doesn't actually happen :P
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01:35 Uberi just a heads up, I am also playing ace of spades: global war so might not be too responsive :)
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01:45 kaeza WTF http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90665#p90665
01:46 frogcrush Shoulda kept going...
01:46 frogcrush I'm interested in how many we could get...
01:46 ShadowNinja lol
01:47 Warr1024 trying to inflate post count?
01:47 frogcrush Or interested...
01:49 * ShadowNinja hopes he got his internet fixed. Wicd seems dead.
01:50 ShadowNinja But ZNC shuffles my channel tabs. And in irssi that gets realy annoying because I use numbeers to switch.
01:54 Uberi nonalcoholic numbeers, I hope
01:54 ShadowNinja And I was thinking that it would be nice to have someone other than celeron55 on the access list with +fF.
01:54 ShadowNinja Uberi: lol
01:57 Kacey that was interesting
01:58 Uberi indeed
01:58 Kacey dont teleport players to around (350000000000000,-100,2500000000000)
01:58 Kacey you will break servers
01:59 Warr1024 what happens if you teleport a player to *, -32000, *?
01:59 Warr1024 are there nodes down there, or do you just falll?
01:59 Kacey try it
01:59 Uberi endless pain and suffering
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02:01 Kacey Uberi, could you make inverted lightstones and lamps?
02:01 ShadowNinja Can someone that can develop right now check this out? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5675898/
02:01 Uberi Kacey: what would they do?
02:01 Kacey if they got a signal, turn off
02:02 Kacey and be on without a sgnal
02:02 Uberi Kacey: that's a lightstone + not gate
02:02 Kacey signal*
02:02 Warr1024 ShadowNinja: what's the code that throws that error?
02:02 Kacey but trying to save room
02:02 Warr1024 oh, I see
02:02 Uberi ShadowNinja: function key in table (don't ask me why)
02:02 Uberi for that I need a full stack trace
02:03 Uberi dump seems to assume string keys
02:03 ShadowNinja Uberi: IMO lights should power from behind using the switch nodebox.
02:03 Uberi switch nodebox?
02:03 Uberi not sure what you mean
02:04 ShadowNinja The one that a mesecon uses when it connects from behind.
02:04 Uberi from behind?
02:04 Uberi you mean the wall receptor?
02:04 ShadowNinja Yes.
02:05 Uberi so S W L, S = switch, W = wall, L = lightstone?
02:05 Uberi and it should light up, is what you're suggesting?
02:05 ShadowNinja Lever, I always forget it's name.
02:06 Uberi I dunno, what advantage would it have?
02:06 ShadowNinja No. L W M Wall light Wall Mesecon
02:06 Uberi hmm?
02:06 ShadowNinja The small flat lamps?
02:06 Uberi oh meselamps
02:07 ShadowNinja Yes.
02:07 Uberi well the thing is
02:07 Uberi wall receptors as it is is a bit of a huge hack
02:07 ShadowNinja Fix it?
02:08 Uberi no really good solution for that unfortunately
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02:21 Kacey the loading screen... it changed...
02:21 Uberi in a good way too
02:21 Warr1024 looks the same to me
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02:22 Uberi try upgrading
02:22 Warr1024 already up-to-date.
02:23 Kacey i just upgraded
02:23 Uberi you get progressbar over clouds?
02:23 Warr1024 oh, that?  yeah, I guess that's new...
02:23 Warr1024 I didn't have a timeframe for reference :-)
02:24 Warr1024 I mean, it was like 14 commits ago...
02:28 Kacey night guys
02:33 OldCoder Hey
02:33 OldCoder Gambit: CandyMine the Movie?
02:34 OldCoder Hmm; still works
02:55 OldCoder CrazyCoder wishes to announce a MT server at mt.crazycoder.me port 14030
02:55 OldCoder He says it is an old version
02:55 OldCoder For clients go to:
02:56 OldCoder http://www.crazycoder.me/files/minetest-c55/
02:56 mrtux initarestin
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03:08 ShadowNinja There is someone named tucebrin in -dev that says he is banned. Does someone know where I can get that ban check script?
03:15 ShadowNinja VanessaE: ^
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06:03 RealBadAngel hi folks
06:03 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/wYZC6yt.jpg
06:04 RealBadAngel how do you like it?
06:06 kaeza hey RealBadAngel
06:06 kaeza bumpmaps?
06:07 kaeza excellent!
06:08 RealBadAngel yeah, i got it working. by now 1 bump map for all the textures
06:08 RealBadAngel need to make now separate
06:09 RealBadAngel i can see fancy effects atm
06:09 RealBadAngel hold on for some more screenshots
06:11 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/QTUoYs5.jpg
06:12 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/lfmE9pG.jpg
06:12 sfan5 RealBadAngel: awesome
06:12 RealBadAngel imho it looks promising :)
06:15 RealBadAngel while using bump mapping turnin on filtering is a must
06:15 RealBadAngel those 2 thingies works excellent together
06:23 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/SA7MjMy.jpg
06:30 sfan5 !server players:most
06:30 MinetestBot UnboundLocalError: local variable 'carg' referenced before assignment (file "/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py", line 216, in server)
06:30 sfan5 !server ping:least
06:30 MinetestBot sfan5: Metacraft | uplink.io | Clients: 1/256 | Version: 0.4.6 minetest | ping: 0.097
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06:39 sfan5 MinetestBot: reload server
06:39 MinetestBot sfan5: <module 'server' from '/home/user/mtbot/modules/server.py'> (version: 2013-05-18 06:40:08)
06:39 sfan5 !server players:most
06:39 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
06:39 sfan5 !server player:most
06:39 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
06:39 sfan5 umm
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06:56 sfan5 MinetestBot!
06:56 MinetestBot sfan5!
06:56 markveidemanis sfan5!
06:57 sfan5 markveidemanis: no
06:57 RealBadAngel BEFORE: http://i.imgur.com/ArG6EDi.jpg and AFTER: http://i.imgur.com/M0uiadg.jpg
07:36 sfan5 RealBadAngel: holy shit
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07:43 Jordach i just found a bug
07:43 Jordach its latest git too
07:44 Jordach you know the credits tab? i get a could not open file of texture:
07:47 Jordach fucking win
07:47 Jordach my audio setup now works
07:47 * Jordach can now record let's plays of Minetest
07:51 markveidemanis MinetestBot
07:51 Jordach <MinetestBot> fuck off
07:52 markveidemanis !MinetestBot
07:56 Jordach markveidemanis, MinetestBot ignores you
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08:24 Jordach RealBadAngel, you about?
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08:43 sfan5 !server players:most
08:43 MinetestBot sfan5: No results
08:45 RealBadAngel here
08:45 RealBadAngel sorry, was afk cookin
08:45 Jordach ah RealBadAngel well, i just found the same album i showed you last night on spotify
08:46 RealBadAngel links?
08:46 Jordach spotify has a windows client, and a linux client
08:46 Jordach http://www.spotify.com/uk/download/previews/
08:46 Jordach ^ has linux install
08:50 sfan5 Jordach: spotify has a web player
08:50 Jordach only for signed up accounts
08:50 Jordach and the search is rubbish
08:50 * Jordach can only get playlists
08:51 Jordach and this is in chrome
08:51 Jordach i've also gained about 20Gb by uninstalling steam, 3ds max
08:52 RealBadAngel you know exactly how to use it?
08:52 RealBadAngel cause i dont :0
08:53 Jordach RealBadAngel, the search bar gives you suggestions on artist, etc
08:54 RealBadAngel oke i will try it later today
08:54 Jordach and its all free
08:54 Jordach theres an ad about every 3-5 songs, so it's like radio
08:55 RealBadAngel now im pretty full of chicken in mushroom sauce with tyr
08:55 RealBadAngel rye
08:55 Jordach tyre?
08:55 RealBadAngel too tired to move fingers over the keyboard
08:55 Jordach heh
08:56 RealBadAngel that was just without shift applied ;)
08:56 Jordach just found another bug
08:56 Jordach oh, it isnt
08:56 RealBadAngel but believe me i made damn good chinese today
08:57 Jordach im pretty sure you did
08:57 RealBadAngel those yellow guys shall learn from me how to cook rice and chicken
08:58 Jordach i always thought the beatles song: the yellow submarine was about the chinese navy
08:58 RealBadAngel hhee
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08:59 RealBadAngel man i just ate 400g of chicken, 500g of rice in sauce
08:59 RealBadAngel circa 1kg or more
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09:00 RealBadAngel most funny is im not fat or whatever and i start to think why theres not any more
09:01 RealBadAngel plate away
09:01 RealBadAngel shit i should earn for livin as cook
09:02 sfan5 Jordach: "This has been the feature that I've wanted since the 0.2.x days." you could set the map seed after creation of the world in map_meta.txt
09:02 RealBadAngel such things pleas report to hmm
09:03 RealBadAngel hes in world generation
09:03 RealBadAngel im just shading stuff atm ;)
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09:32 Jordach heh
09:32 Jordach i finally am able to record a skype call
09:32 Jordach minetest and my mic at the same time :)
09:44 * Jordach renders video
09:54 Jordach 35 mins for rendering, about an hour for the upload
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10:08 markveidemanis Hi
10:08 deasanta hi
10:09 kaeza hi
10:10 deasanta how long should it take to join a server? i know that this can vary from server to server / modpack to modpack / etc. just trying to get a general idea...
10:10 markveidemanis 5 sec
10:11 kaeza depends :)
10:11 kaeza you cannot ask for a rough estimate here
10:12 kaeza it can take anywhere from 5 secs to infinity
10:14 kaeza anyway, off to bed
10:14 kaeza night all
10:14 deasanta tnx - night
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10:28 Jordach fuck me
10:28 Jordach windows was right about the time remaining for once
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10:47 deasanta windows was right about the time remaining for once - WHAAATT??
10:47 Jordach deasanta, i was using movie maker to compress the size of my video
10:47 Jordach and it was right
10:48 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
10:48 Jordach hello PilzAdam
10:48 deasanta whaaattt = i cant believe it :)
10:48 Jordach Uploading your video. 91 minutes remaining. Your video will be live at: [REDACTED]
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11:25 markveidemanis AFK
11:29 markveidemanis back
11:31 iqualfragile pi PilzAdam
11:31 VanessaE good morning all
11:32 iqualfragile *hi
11:32 iqualfragile hi VanessaE
11:32 iqualfragile well, its not realy morning around here
11:32 iqualfragile more like 13:30
11:32 VanessaE it's morning somewhere ;)
11:33 Jordach VanessaE, ha
11:34 iqualfragile well… for me this actualy is morning
11:36 markveidemanis ...
11:36 Jordach 44 Mins...
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11:41 VanessaE man, OryHara is lucky I don't temp-ban him from the forums for being an ass.
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11:42 markveidemanis STOP FUCKING BANNING PEOPLE YOU OPS
11:42 VanessaE STOP FUCKING IGNORING THE RULES.
11:42 markveidemanis http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6006
11:44 markveidemanis VanessaE: then write the rules somewhere
11:44 Jordach ladies ladies
11:44 Jordach hambags down
11:44 VanessaE markveidemanis: look at the top of the page.  "Rules" link.
11:45 VanessaE every forum page has a link to the rules of the forum.
11:45 Jordach ProTip: I don't give a fuck about what people think
11:46 VanessaE G*d damn it, now mauvebic has taken to wiping out his posts (with gibberish)
11:46 VanessaE when is this shit gonna get under control!?
11:48 markveidemanis you say g*d only to say shit in the next line?
11:48 markveidemanis t/clear
11:49 VanessaE markveidemanis: don't ask why.  it's too long to explain and it's off-topic.
11:50 markveidemanis ]=[-p;'#[
11:50 markveidemanis oops
11:50 markveidemanis sorry messed up smiley
11:50 markveidemanis [=
11:50 markveidemanis there we go ^.^
11:52 Jordach at least mito didnt remove his dwarves topic
11:52 Jordach has anyone realised something? http://archive.org
11:52 Jordach use the web time machine
11:53 Jordach youre all making a fucking fuss
11:54 Jordach my father taught me something: if something you love hurts you; forget about and don't give a fuck
11:54 Jordach forget about it*
11:55 Jordach oh and VanessaE. landmine was about last night and he was being nice
11:55 VanessaE he's permanently on my shit-list. Every time he's given another chance, he fucks up.  EVERY.  SINGLE.  TIME.
11:55 Jordach bull
11:56 Jordach <Jordach> <RealBadAngel> LMOwnz, i dont pay a tiny shit about your what do you think. you are lost to this community. period.
11:56 Jordach RealBadAngel was antagonising him
11:56 VanessaE He deserves every insult launched at him, and he has the option not to respond.
11:56 VanessaE no one's forcing him to be an ass.
11:57 Jordach yes, but he chose to be nice
11:57 Jordach i actually think OC has calmed his attitude
11:57 VanessaE yeah, and as soon as he gets a chance, he'll launch into another insult-fest.
11:57 Jordach provided you don't annoy him
11:57 Jordach VanessaE, minetest's community is falling apart because of the closed devs
11:58 Jordach they don't like outsiders
11:58 VanessaE Jordach: I wish I had a solution to that, but as I'm not a core dev, my opinions have little weight.
11:58 Jordach again, its a biased set of devs
11:58 Jordach VanessaE,
11:58 Jordach <VanessaE> man, OryHara is lucky I don't temp-ban him from the forums for being an ass.
11:59 Jordach OryHara is partially righr
11:59 VanessaE did you read his messages?
11:59 Jordach right*
11:59 Jordach pilad has been rather unforgiving to new guys
11:59 VanessaE that's on him to sort out.
11:59 Jordach like that will happen
12:00 Jordach i havent seen xyz be an ass to anyone
12:00 Jordach nor kahrl
12:00 VanessaE am I ever an ass to someone who wasn't an ass to me?
12:00 Jordach exactly
12:00 VanessaE ?
12:00 Jordach you've never been an ass to me
12:01 VanessaE I didn't think so :)
12:01 Jordach my point is: Adam actually deserves the stick
12:01 Jordach you don't.
12:02 * VanessaE shrugs
12:02 VanessaE I'm starting to see a rift myself, one which has me on the distant side.
12:02 Jordach VanessaE, lkjoel called this last year in may
12:05 * VanessaE shrugs
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12:12 markveidemanis How can i make a python program that hosts a server?
12:12 Jordach import socket
12:13 PilzAdam markveidemanis, -> #python
12:13 markveidemanis so i can do s.send from another client to that server
12:14 markveidemanis PilzAdam: things you care about:   70% offtopic--- 45% inaccurate maths
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12:53 Jordach thexyz, can i have a word
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13:30 RealBadAngel PilzAdam, have you seen pics with bump mapping shaders?
13:33 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, no?
13:33 RealBadAngel BEFORE: http://i.imgur.com/ArG6EDi.jpg and AFTER: http://i.imgur.com/M0uiadg.jpg
13:34 PilzAdam why doesnt the second one have shadows?
13:35 RealBadAngel disabled atm
13:35 PilzAdam and why?
13:35 RealBadAngel i have replaced light shader with bumpmapping one
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13:48 Kacey http://i.imgur.com/r06lo6O.png
13:48 Kacey huh
14:02 VanessaE bbl
14:07 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/FfaimWn.jpg
14:07 RealBadAngel seqouia bump mapped :)
14:15 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Remove survival and build from CMakeLists.txt 6074163bf3 2013-05-18T07:14:06-07:00 http://git.io/3nA_Kw
14:16 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Remove common from CMakeLists.txt, README.txt, lua-api.txt and buildwin.sh b76ec317c9 2013-05-18T07:13:32-07:00 http://git.io/KxrVPQ
14:16 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Only create SoundManager in main menu if USE_SOUND is true 714ecc5e27 2013-05-18T04:01:47-07:00 http://git.io/6VV12Q
14:18 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add bones mod a65f5b1564 2013-05-18T07:06:57-07:00 http://git.io/0-pa8g
14:18 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest_game: Move all common mods back to minetest_game fcf0816fa8 2013-05-18T07:05:16-07:00 http://git.io/FfH4bw
14:24 arsdragonfly wow cool
14:25 Kacey so no more common?
14:26 sfan5 Kacey: yep
14:26 arsdragonfly what was the purpose of adding common,build and survival at that time?
14:26 Kacey aaw :( it was kinda cool
14:27 RealBadAngel gravel in all its glory: http://imgur.com/jqwh2Cz
14:28 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, can you make this for the default TP?
14:28 enchilado You've some how managed to distill an image of pure 1995, RealBadAngel.
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14:29 RealBadAngel and gravel applied to everything: http://i.imgur.com/btzE7wv.jpg
14:29 RealBadAngel hehe welcome to the gravel world then ;)
14:30 enchilado Please tell me you don't think that looks good
14:30 RealBadAngel of course not
14:30 RealBadAngel but its bumped as hell :)
14:31 RealBadAngel im makin now normal maps for all the textures in my texture pack
14:32 RealBadAngel btw, lets try gravel on 16x textures, i wonder how it will look like ;)
14:34 RealBadAngel damn me....
14:34 RealBadAngel for such simple effect it works SUPRISINGLY good
14:35 RealBadAngel you wont fuckin believe it
14:36 RealBadAngel ladies and gentelman: 16x default texture pack: http://i.imgur.com/L9ljzbP.jpg
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14:37 Kacey http://youtu.be/gHOMSx2ev24
14:38 RealBadAngel hmmmm,  for you again: gravel bump maps applied on 16x default textures: http://i.imgur.com/L9ljzbP.jpg
14:38 hmmmm that's 16x!?
14:38 RealBadAngel fuck YEAH
14:38 hmmmm so wwhere does it get the bumps from
14:39 RealBadAngel single bump map for them all
14:39 hmmmm oh
14:39 hmmmm and i guess the pixels are just blurred together?
14:39 RealBadAngel filtering enabled
14:39 RealBadAngel x2
14:39 hmmmm wow, even at 16x that does look nice (for some textures)
14:40 RealBadAngel im really suprised with effect
14:42 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/YOCM1nB.jpg
14:43 markveidemanis Server: -!- Time of day set to 6am
14:43 markveidemanis ?
14:43 RealBadAngel UI
14:43 markveidemanis ah k
14:44 RealBadAngel this little texture brought cartoonish effect to whole world
14:44 RealBadAngel and imho is lookin great
14:45 RealBadAngel fuck  me walking. i would love to call it a feature
14:47 RealBadAngel one file, one button to enable, a few kilobytes. efect is sky high.
14:47 RealBadAngel what do you think?
14:47 Morrolan Looks as if there were tiny bats everywhere. :)
14:48 RealBadAngel have you seen that cartoonish texture pack brought here from minecraft?
14:48 RealBadAngel sphax pure bd craft
14:48 RealBadAngel it holds pretty same effect
14:49 RealBadAngel for each and every texture to make it look like a cartoon
14:49 RealBadAngel but this is whole texture pack
14:49 RealBadAngel and my code is just one texture file
14:51 Morrolan I dare say there's a slight difference between http://bdcraft.net/minecraft-blocks and http://i.imgur.com/YOCM1nB.jpg :P
14:55 RealBadAngel how dare you :p
14:55 RealBadAngel ;)
14:57 RealBadAngel anyways it does work on most of the surfaces but not all
14:57 RealBadAngel more tileable surface with more details effect is better
14:57 RealBadAngel which means two things
14:58 RealBadAngel one texture cannot be used for everything
14:58 RealBadAngel but still can be used as default bump map when no specific normal map is provided
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15:03 arsdragonfly RealBadAngel :minecraft once had a cartoonish rendering in beta 1.5
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15:04 arsdragonfly with curving outlines of blocks
15:04 robby214ty hello, will someone please tell me where i download minetest
15:04 RealBadAngel arsdragonfly, thats sobel
15:04 RealBadAngel completely differnt stuff. terasology uses this shader
15:05 RealBadAngel mc have fucked it up completely
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15:06 robby214ty realbadangel where do i download minetest? please tell me
15:06 Jordach robby214ty, http://minetest.net/download
15:06 robby214ty thx
15:06 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/YOCM1nB.jpg
15:07 RealBadAngel those are terasology shaders
15:07 Jordach cant see shit
15:07 Jordach theyre just black lines
15:07 Jordach last time i checked, bumpmaps use alpha channels
15:08 RealBadAngel problem of tereasology is one
15:08 RealBadAngel java
15:08 RealBadAngel it works only on selected machines
15:09 RealBadAngel and thx to java is slow as hell
15:09 RealBadAngel but their shaders are damn good
15:10 RealBadAngel i like their Sobel's implementation
15:14 robby214ty hey, does anyone know a good minetest server ip?
15:15 enchilado 127.0.0.1
15:15 robby214ty thx
15:15 enchilado v_v
15:15 enchilado robby214ty: that's localhost, you'll just try to connect to a server on your own computer :P
15:16 robby214ty darn you
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15:16 PilzAdam robby214ty, there is a public server list in the multiplayer tab
15:17 robby214ty i got to the tab on minetest, and there is no server list
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15:17 PilzAdam robby214ty, what version do you use?
15:17 robby214ty the newest one
15:18 PilzAdam the windows version?
15:18 robby214ty yes
15:19 RealBadAngel ok, i think you all gonna like it
15:19 PilzAdam it acutally has, just click on "Show Public" button in the "Multiplayer" tab
15:19 PilzAdam here is a web version if it doesnt work for you: http://servers.minetest.net/
15:19 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/bNAABxX.jpg
15:20 RealBadAngel single texture cartoon shader
15:20 RealBadAngel 16x default textures
15:20 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, aww, turn this Bi- and Trilinear filter off!
15:20 robby214ty i donthave the show public button
15:21 PilzAdam thats odd
15:23 RealBadAngel filtering is a must have with such tricks im afraid
15:23 Jordach RealBadAngel, much better
15:24 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/yL7yg2w.jpg
15:24 RealBadAngel this is without 2x filter
15:24 robby214ty darn, no tnt or explosive
15:24 Jordach what the fuck is that behind the wood?
15:25 PilzAdam robby214ty, use my TNT mod
15:25 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, it could be nice to have this as crack animation
15:25 robby214ty is it like minecraft, all weird and stuff to download
15:25 PilzAdam (especially if you look at the goldblock)
15:25 robby214ty mods
15:26 PilzAdam robby214ty, Minetest is just just an engine, all content is added via mods; even the default game consists of mods only
15:26 arsdragonfly how does it look if anisotrophic filtering is enabled?
15:26 RealBadAngel check two pics above
15:26 PilzAdam robby214ty, unlike Minecraft we have _real_ mod support
15:26 RealBadAngel or wait
15:26 robby214ty oh, good, so can you gimme a link to the mod page?
15:26 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/bNAABxX.jpg http://i.imgur.com/yL7yg2w.jpg
15:27 RealBadAngel left with, right without
15:27 PilzAdam robby214ty, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2902
15:27 PilzAdam robby214ty, download it, unzip, rename the folder to "tnt" and place it in your minetest folder in mods/minetest/
15:28 arsdragonfly RealBadAngel :is there any difference among bi-,tri-linear and anisotrophic filtering?
15:28 RealBadAngel more is smoother
15:29 RealBadAngel with 16px textures you will notice lotsa blur
15:29 RealBadAngel but with hd textures...
15:29 RealBadAngel coming close to the wall and see no squares
15:29 RealBadAngel priceless
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15:30 RealBadAngel general rule is that filtering is for high resolution textures
15:31 RealBadAngel it may look ok with 16x but most of the cases it wont
15:32 robby214ty ok, i moved it there piz, now what?
15:32 robby214ty pilz
15:32 PilzAdam thats all
15:32 robby214ty so now i play
15:32 PilzAdam yea
15:32 robby214ty is it in creative too?
15:32 PilzAdam sure
15:33 robby214ty YES
15:34 PilzAdam does it work?
15:36 robby214ty well, i opend creative, no page has tnt
15:36 robby214ty or does it mean i have to craft it, not take it out of creative menu?
15:36 PilzAdam can you type /mods in the chat to see if its installed?
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15:38 * arsdragonfly now wants to make a manual mod
15:38 robby214ty it says issued command: /mods but nothing else
15:41 robby214ty uhhh, i said something now everything is frozen
15:42 arsdragonfly -/man modname,and everyting will be clear and easy
15:42 PilzAdam robby214ty, seems like the local server crashed
15:42 robby214ty oh
15:43 arsdragonfly how cool will that be
15:43 robby214ty so is it back up?
15:43 PilzAdam robby214ty, when you play in singleplayer Minetest automatically starts a server
15:44 PilzAdam so you need to close minetest and restart it then
15:44 robby214ty and how do i  fix my mod problem?
15:44 PilzAdam I first need to know the output of "/mods"
15:44 kahrl robby214ty: upload your debug.txt in your minetest folder at pastebin.com
15:45 RealBadAngel btw, PilzAdam that is why we shall solve problems with renaming mod folders...
15:45 RealBadAngel but nobody wanted to listen '
15:45 RealBadAngel modding mt is atm too elite
15:45 PilzAdam we could just ignore the "-master" at the end of mod names
15:46 kahrl doesn't github also add the commit hash or something?
15:46 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, why do you always think that the average user has an IQ of 70?
15:46 PilzAdam kahrl, not anymore
15:46 RealBadAngel i cannot measure all the potential users by my own
15:46 RealBadAngel yours neither
15:47 robby214ty pilz, it sais i have bones, bucket, crearive, default, doors, fire and stairs
15:47 PilzAdam do you use the Survival game?
15:47 RealBadAngel see? its all over the same
15:47 arsdragonfly just print a notification if something like -master is detected
15:47 RealBadAngel fuck no
15:48 PilzAdam robby214ty, if you have selected "Survival" when creating the world you need to place the mod in "mods/survival" instead of "mods/minetest"
15:48 robby214ty same thing in survival
15:48 robby214ty thx pilz
15:48 RealBadAngel robby214ty, correct place to save your mods is /mods/minetest
15:49 arsdragonfly
15:49 RealBadAngel not /games for christ sake
15:49 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, not if he uses Survival or Build
15:49 RealBadAngel damn
15:49 PilzAdam anyway, we are working on a slightly changed mod system for 0.4.7
15:50 arsdragonfly robby214ty :are you running linux with a run_in_place=0 build?
15:50 RealBadAngel i hope you slightly trash old one
15:50 PilzAdam arsdragonfly, no, he runs windows with MT 0.4.6
15:50 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, see -dev
15:50 arsdragonfly all right then
15:54 robby214ty i have windows version 46
15:54 robby214ty well, windows xp
15:54 robby214ty i have version 46
15:54 robby214ty of minetest
15:54 PilzAdam no, its 0.4.6 not 46
15:55 robby214ty and i cant find /mods/survival
15:55 PilzAdam create it
15:55 robby214ty where do i create it? in mods
15:55 robby214ty ?
15:55 PilzAdam yes
15:57 robby214ty i name it Survival?
15:57 PilzAdam no, "survival" (no capital S)
15:57 robby214ty thx
15:57 PilzAdam and then you place the tnt mod into that new folder
15:58 robby214ty ok, is this gonna work?
15:58 kahrl caps don't matter on windows
15:58 robby214ty shut up kahrl
15:59 kahrl :(
15:59 robby214ty im not talking to you
15:59 PilzAdam heh
15:59 PilzAdam kahrl, yes, I just wanted to be sure
15:59 PilzAdam robby214ty, just try it
15:59 robby214ty o
15:59 robby214ty ok
16:03 robby214ty Server: -!- bones bucket build creative default doors dye fire screwdriver stairs vessels wool
16:04 robby214ty thats what i got when i did /mods
16:04 PilzAdam do you run a world with the Build game now?
16:04 robby214ty so, what do i do?
16:04 PilzAdam then place the mod in mods/build/
16:05 iqualfragile RealBadAngel: nice bumpmaps
16:05 iqualfragile * nice, bumpmaps
16:06 RealBadAngel iqualfragile, i suggest waitin a few more hours
16:06 RealBadAngel i just coded per texture normals
16:07 RealBadAngel but i need now to make them all
16:07 RealBadAngel result is groundbreaking
16:08 RealBadAngel i already picked up music for promotional video
16:08 iqualfragile :D
16:08 RealBadAngel as soon as im ready with normals for most common nodes i will record a video
16:09 iqualfragile i would suggest providing support for bumpmaps, too
16:09 iqualfragile as its easier to draw a bumpmap
16:09 iqualfragile wich tool are you using to create your normalmaps?
16:09 iqualfragile blender?
16:09 RealBadAngel gimp
16:10 RealBadAngel it has several methods and is fully configurable
16:10 RealBadAngel so you can easily create normal map within seconds
16:11 iqualfragile wich plugins/filters are you using?
16:11 RealBadAngel gimp_plugin_register
16:11 RealBadAngel and gimp_normalmap
16:12 RealBadAngel but i had problems with using normal maps plugin with 2.6
16:12 RealBadAngel so i upgraded to 2.8 and problem was gone
16:12 iqualfragile 2.8.4 here
16:13 RealBadAngel whats ur distro?
16:14 iqualfragile i am using custom repositories for that
16:15 robby214ty i used build yes, sorry i took so long, i was making lunch
16:18 robby214ty it gives me mod error
16:18 robby214ty heloooo?
16:19 PilzAdam what mod error?
16:19 robby214ty it failed to launch your tnt mod
16:20 PilzAdam can you paste your debug.txt in the bin/ folder at pastebin.com?
16:20 PilzAdam http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5073
16:23 robby214ty Mod error:failed to load and run C:\Minetest\bin\..\mods\survival\tnt\init.lua
16:26 robby214ty grarg, this is so confusing for mods
16:27 iqualfragile RealBadAngel: make shure to create a normalmap for the cracks
16:27 robby214ty JUST like fucking minecraft
16:27 iqualfragile thats gona be AWSOME
16:27 robby214ty why are mods so confusing?!
16:29 Calinou because you are
16:32 RealBadAngel ;)
16:32 sfan5 !seen markveidemanis
16:32 MinetestBot sfan5: markveidemanis was last seen at 2013-05-18 14:45:05 UTC on #minetest
16:33 RealBadAngel shit i do have over 700 textures to make normal maps for :)
16:33 RealBadAngel i shall shoot my foot before i thougth about it
16:36 RealBadAngel wonder what VanessaE gonna say about converting whole HDX tho ;)
16:36 sfan5 hah
16:36 RealBadAngel propably i will have to put her on ignore for a few weeks ;)
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16:42 Menche whenever i log onto my server, it says that map saving is disabled
16:43 RealBadAngel iqualfragile, i will make such maps
16:44 RealBadAngel cracks, lava etc
16:44 iqualfragile have you checked the quality of the generated normalmaps before converting them all
16:44 RealBadAngel im making them one by one
16:45 RealBadAngel and checkin effects ingame
16:45 RealBadAngel each surface needs different effect and settings
16:45 iqualfragile canyou posta screenshot?
16:46 iqualfragile or two
16:46 RealBadAngel i did already
16:48 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/FfaimWn.jpg http://i.imgur.com/btzE7wv.jpg  http://i.imgur.com/jqwh2Cz.jpg http://i.imgur.com/wYZC6yt.jpg
16:48 RealBadAngel those were taken with same normalmap for all the nodes
16:50 RealBadAngel the last picture is stone and proper normal map for it
16:51 iqualfragile cool
16:51 iqualfragile are you converting the default textures, too
16:52 iqualfragile & i realy wonder wich algorythem they use
16:53 RealBadAngel i dont have to convert them all
16:54 RealBadAngel i can apply eye candies even on 16px
16:55 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/YOCM1nB.jpg
16:55 RealBadAngel those are 16x with one normal
16:56 RealBadAngel or: http://i.imgur.com/L9ljzbP.jpg
16:57 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, you keep showing us nice screenshots of bumpmaps, skyboxes, water shaders etc., but when is one of these features actually ready?
16:57 Calinou RealBadAngel: you added actual normal map support? O_o
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16:57 Calinou looks like it is fake
16:57 Calinou useless then 8)
16:57 RealBadAngel hehe
16:57 Calinou real one would account for light sources and stuff
16:57 RealBadAngel say whatever you want
16:58 RealBadAngel i can PLAY with those effects :P
16:58 RealBadAngel but seriously, bump mapping im gonna push this weekend
16:59 RealBadAngel since i found a way for it to work without hardware lights
16:59 RealBadAngel any other shader effects will come in pack
17:00 RealBadAngel when we have real light sources
17:00 RealBadAngel not just some fancy schmancy weird math
17:01 VanessaE RealBadAngel: what I say is, I'll convert HDX to use shaders/normalmaps/etc. for sure
17:01 * VanessaE wanders off again
17:01 sokomine sounds good. the game is already quite nice
17:01 sokomine hm. what will i format my new external disk with...ext3? hm
17:01 RealBadAngel also bump mapping itself will be lookin better then
17:02 RealBadAngel i already accepted 8 possible light sources
17:02 RealBadAngel ie sun, torches,  lamps
17:02 RealBadAngel all can have different values
17:03 RealBadAngel ie temperature
17:03 sokomine if possible, it would be nice if light sources could be brighter (i.e. illuminate a larger area). i have to plaster the ceilings of my houses with vanessas ceiling lights
17:03 RealBadAngel me too :)
17:03 sokomine usually, one modern lamp ought to be enough for a living-room
17:03 sokomine :-)
17:04 RealBadAngel if we move to real light sources
17:04 RealBadAngel color, brightness and whatever wont be  a problem anymore
17:04 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, by "real light sources" you mean placing a lamp in front of your desktop?
17:04 RealBadAngel rotfl
17:05 RealBadAngel no. i converted fiat_lux.py to c++
17:06 sokomine at night, the monitor may be the light source :-)
17:06 RealBadAngel so i do have real time ingame
17:06 sokomine (so don't build too dark caves :-))
17:06 * VanessaE doesn't wander off just yet
17:06 VanessaE :)
17:06 RealBadAngel according to your position in world, date and time
17:07 RealBadAngel so im able to make polar nights on edges of the map
17:07 RealBadAngel simulate the skydome
17:08 VanessaE sweet
17:08 iqualfragile sokomine: f2fs sounds interesting
17:09 iqualfragile but if you like to live risky i would try to use btrfs
17:09 iqualfragile its great for backups!
17:09 VanessaE RealBadAngel: still waiting for you to make screenshots with the HDX normalmaps I made
17:09 VanessaE I really wanna see how they look in practice
17:09 RealBadAngel look at your keyboard
17:09 RealBadAngel and spot those keys, in order
17:10 * sokomine puts up some homedecor fences so that vanessae does not wander around that much and additionally places some gravel on paths leading to further mod development (although that's pretty fast already :-))
17:10 RealBadAngel A M A Z I N G
17:10 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I need to *see* it!
17:10 VanessaE :)
17:11 RealBadAngel hehe, prepare for gfx orgasm coming soon
17:11 RealBadAngel i promise
17:11 VanessaE I expect nothing less :)
17:11 sfan5 while everyone is being productive here, I'm writing a solution that enables portforwarding through firewalls
17:11 sokomine iqalfragile: hm, havn't done much with btrfs yet. what does make it particulary good for backup?
17:11 sokomine "live risky" does not exactly sound good for backups
17:11 VanessaE for the rest:  last night I provided RealBadAngel with proper normalmaps and a few specular maps to go with HDX 512px textures, but I have yet to see them actually applied to the textures (I only have GIMP's preview renderings to go by)
17:12 RealBadAngel shit, sfan5, im too much in shaders atm, nothin more as pixels, rgb and similar means nothin to me ;)
17:12 sfan5 :D
17:12 sokomine maps? as in minetest-maps with great buildings?
17:13 VanessaE sokomine: as in bumpmaps
17:13 VanessaE texture maps on top of the actual texture images
17:13 iqualfragile sokomine: it was half-ironic
17:13 sokomine can the background images currently be changed? great night-sky/sunrise are also something that would be nice
17:13 sokomine :-)
17:13 VanessaE makes the surfaces of blocks look like they really *are* 3d and have some texture to them
17:13 iqualfragile on the one hand you can use the snapshot feature to… well… create snapshots
17:13 iqualfragile so backups looks like:
17:14 iqualfragile rsync hdd to external, snapshot, done
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17:14 RealBadAngel sokomine, like so? http://i.imgur.com/KrqC9RM.png
17:14 iqualfragile additionaly btrfs has transparent compression support
17:14 VanessaE New build: 6074163b[...]
17:14 iqualfragile on the other hand its not realy stable yet
17:14 sokomine rba: yes, like that
17:14 sokomine someone (mauvebic?) had that on screenshots and it looked amazing
17:15 iqualfragile well… i am using it for backups, i like living risky
17:15 sokomine maybe with more fog for cities :-) all those lightsources there lead to a lot of light-pollution :-)
17:15 sokomine at least you do have backups then
17:15 RealBadAngel sokomine, skydome code will allow you to set custom night sky textures, and a few weather depended ones (clouds)
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17:16 Pentium44 hi all
17:16 Pentium44 I made this nice website of minetest
17:16 Pentium44 http://www.crazycoder.me/minetest-c55/
17:16 RealBadAngel base texture is 2048px and is mapped on the inside of sphere
17:17 PilzAdam Pentium44, why do you force users to enable JS to see anything?
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17:17 RealBadAngel JAVA?
17:17 RealBadAngel kill it with fire
17:17 Pentium44 PilzAdam, what do you mean???
17:17 Menche java != javascript
17:17 sokomine sounds very good, rba. i hope my hardware will be able to cope with it. that's always a bit difficult and contradictory...on one hand, i want great scenery, but my onboard card is...well..onboard.
17:18 PilzAdam Pentium44, you see a complete white website without Javascript enabled
17:18 RealBadAngel its similar, we may get infected :P
17:18 PilzAdam RealBadAngel, Java is a nice language
17:18 Menche Pentium44, what is that? an older version of the minetest website?
17:18 sokomine pilzadam: glad to see someone else complains about such things as well. most people look puzzled when i tell them that their page is completely empty
17:18 iqualfragile PilzAdam: you do not need to http://dart.ionfish.org:14080/minetest-c55/
17:18 iqualfragile its just a frameset
17:19 Menche whatever dart.ionfish.org is, i get a 404 error
17:19 RealBadAngel sokomine, 1,8ghz dual, 4gb ram, xubuntu 12.04, ati hd 4670
17:19 sokomine pentium44: it would be far better if your page worked without javascript as well - because that would be more than enough for normal operations :-) you can use js for less important things
17:19 Menche connecting to it on port 14080?!?!?
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17:19 Pentium44 yes
17:19 RealBadAngel texture pack 128x, all shaders and filtering enabled
17:20 RealBadAngel incuding my weird code
17:20 RealBadAngel and 40fps
17:20 Calinou <iqualfragile> sokomine: f2fs sounds interesting
17:20 Calinou lol
17:20 Calinou slower than ext4 even on SSDs
17:20 Calinou and less stable
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17:20 iqualfragile phoronix says no
17:20 sokomine hm, i suppose an ati hd 4670 is better than an GeForce 7050 PV / nForce 630a?
17:20 * Menche uses FAT on external drives, for compatibility with inferior operating systems
17:21 Menche ext4 on ones that don't need to be used on inferior systems
17:21 RealBadAngel btw. test of hardware lights
17:21 RealBadAngel pretty old but working
17:21 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/wP3g7FK.png
17:22 Pentium44 is that a potato :p
17:23 sokomine pretty dark for that time?
17:23 VanessaE RealBadAngel: HDX screenshots dammit :)
17:23 RealBadAngel shaders experiments always are time fucked ;)
17:23 VanessaE you're killing me
17:24 RealBadAngel softly
17:24 RealBadAngel ;)
17:24 RealBadAngel i just wrote an email to Marek Bilinski
17:24 RealBadAngel wonder if he will agree to use his scores
17:25 Jordach RealBadAngel, can we see hardware lighting at day
17:25 iqualfragile Menche: fat is unsuitable for backups
17:25 Jordach like trees
17:25 Jordach Menche, NTFS can be written and read by all
17:25 VanessaE iqualfragile: only if you are storing tarballs there or so
17:25 Menche Jordach, Macs can't read NTFS
17:26 VanessaE OH
17:26 VanessaE UNsuitable
17:26 RealBadAngel Jordach, i can provide real light sources
17:26 VanessaE I read that as "usable" :D
17:26 RealBadAngel and math for it
17:26 VanessaE there, server's updated to the latest build again.
17:26 RealBadAngel but then whole lighting shall be rebuild
17:26 Jordach RealBadAngel, show me daytime
17:26 RealBadAngel i actually understand how the stuff works
17:27 RealBadAngel and can do that
17:27 Pentium44 Jordach are you still working on Minetest Classic?
17:27 RealBadAngel but its not a single liner change
17:27 Jordach Pentium44, nope
17:27 Menche darkrose has a minetest-classic fork
17:27 Pentium44 why?
17:27 Pentium44 Jordach, that was the best
17:27 Pentium44 Minetest now sucks
17:27 Menche http://gitorious.org/minetest-classic
17:27 Pentium44 they are making to much like minecraft
17:28 Jordach we know
17:28 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/xngqHYo.png
17:28 Menche it's active and she has a server for it
17:28 RealBadAngel enough for day? :)
17:28 Menche Pentium44
17:28 Jordach RealBadAngel, with blocks
17:28 Jordach you fool :)
17:28 RealBadAngel lol
17:29 Pentium44 Menche
17:29 Pentium44 nice
17:29 Pentium44 I will build it and try it old
17:29 Pentium44 out*
17:29 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/2xEp8Ow.png
17:30 RealBadAngel thats a skydome with dirt block as observation point
17:30 RealBadAngel in the middle
17:30 Jordach RealBadAngel, fucking awesome
17:31 RealBadAngel and that is what you can see being inside:
17:31 RealBadAngel http://i.imgur.com/i692bUl.jpg
17:31 Jordach RealBadAngel, that looks realistic
17:32 Jordach good job
17:32 Jordach is there a windows build for minetest-classic
17:32 RealBadAngel i thought at the start i could release shaders step by step
17:33 Jordach nope.
17:33 Jordach RealBadAngel, add camera blur when moving in fast move
17:33 RealBadAngel but when developing them i figured out i need lotsa basics to be done first
17:33 Jordach when moving the camera fast
17:33 PilzAdam <Jordach> is there a windows build for minetest-classic <- yes
17:33 RealBadAngel well, thats already done
17:34 PilzAdam see my win build topic
17:34 RealBadAngel ive seen Jeija's code for motion blur
17:34 Jordach add it
17:34 Pentium44 is darkrose here?
17:35 Jordach Pentium44, she's in minetest-dev
17:35 Pentium44 ok thanks
17:35 RealBadAngel first thing that will go through will be bumpmapping with fake lights
17:35 RealBadAngel then im gonna make proper lights
17:35 RealBadAngel add liquids shaders
17:36 RealBadAngel then the skydome, sun, godrays, len flares and shadows
17:37 Jordach godrays?
17:37 RealBadAngel google for it
17:37 RealBadAngel pretty nice effect
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17:37 Jordach NICE
17:38 RealBadAngel i dont have light source
17:39 iqualfragile1 i have the feelingt hat minetest will get qute awsome soon
17:39 iqualfragile1 but it will make it harder to create new mods
17:40 PilzAdam iqualfragile1, assume that RBA actually finishes one of the features he has promised :-)
17:40 iqualfragile1 :D
17:40 Jordach and theres PilzAdam's legendary naysaying
17:41 VanessaE Jordach: "god rays" -->  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crepuscular_rays
17:41 Menche my server gives the message 'WARNING: Map saving is disabled'
17:41 Menche what could cause that?
17:41 Jordach VanessaE, already looked
17:41 Jordach out of space noob
17:41 Jordach -noob
17:42 Menche i am definitely not out of space
17:42 VanessaE I would assume permissions issues then
17:43 PilzAdam Menche, you shoudl get "WARNING: ServerMap: Failed to load map" in infostream too
17:43 PilzAdam *should
17:43 VanessaE bbl, back to watching movies
17:44 iqualfragile1 these rays are possible in real time
17:46 PilzAdam Menche, the only way that that can happen if fs::PathExists or fs::GetDirListing in map.cpp:2391 throw an exception
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17:46 PilzAdam +is
17:48 PilzAdam Menche, I guess you are not using windows?
17:50 Menche no.
17:50 Menche debian 7
17:54 PilzAdam do you have read and write permission for all files in the world directory?
17:54 PilzAdam (and the world directory itself)
17:55 Menche yes
17:56 Calinou <Jordach> godrays?
17:56 Calinou you can fake them with transparent nodes already :P
17:56 Calinou even thin ones (nodeboxes)
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17:57 sokomine my backups are almost all encrypted images anyway. only the films captured from tv are diffrent (those are less important)
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17:58 Calinou lol
17:58 * Calinou backups with ctrl+c ctrl+v to a 7 year old 200GB external HDD
17:58 sokomine can't minetest classic be done with basicly a new game-mode?
17:58 sokomine ,-)
17:59 * sokomine borrows calinou her null device
18:00 sokomine why is that skydome on the images so round? it seems smaller than the normal cube-size?
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18:02 sokomine rba: really nice screenshots!
18:03 Calinou at least they are better than hybrid dog's
18:03 Calinou poor retinex
18:03 sokomine menche: that error message occoured on your server after i sold you valuable cobble :-)
18:03 iqualfragile1 sokomine: eventhought Calinou is french he is not yet female
18:03 sokomine the sky looks very realistic. the mt-clouds are a bit distracting there
18:04 sokomine iqual: why should he be female?
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18:05 * Menche makes a note to nuke plantlife
18:05 iqualfragile1 oh, i am sorry english grammar fooled me
18:05 Menche junglegrass is taking over the desert
18:05 sokomine menche: NOOOO! plantlife is great!
18:05 sokomine :)
18:06 sokomine just fighting back ,-) securing areas to regrow...
18:06 Menche sokomine: for the ugly poison ivy, invasive junglegrass, invasive lilypads, flowers which are in default... ?
18:06 sokomine iqaual: happens easily
18:06 sokomine menche: :-) they make the world look nicer. even though they sometimes tend to exaggerate a bit
18:07 sokomine maybe you ought to buy them at your admin-shop. players could try to exterminate them then :-)
18:08 RealBadAngel sokomine, i made skydome playground smaller on purpose
18:08 RealBadAngel so i can fly around it and see how it looks like
18:08 RealBadAngel but turning it to be real sky is as simple as uncommenting 2 lines in code
18:09 sokomine sounds good
18:09 * sokomine hopes it will get into the game and run on her hardware
18:10 RealBadAngel //m_sky_dome->setMaterialFlag(video::EMF_ZWRITE_ENABLE, false);
18:10 RealBadAngel //m_sky_dome->setMaterialFlag(video::EMF_ZBUFFER, false);
18:10 RealBadAngel thats all needed to make it a real  sky ;)
18:11 sokomine sounds excellent
18:15 Calinou "not yet female"
18:15 Calinou "not yet"
18:15 * Calinou zooms in
18:15 Calinou (too bad we can't do that on IRC)
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18:47 khonkhortisan There's no command-line option for 3d?
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18:54 iqualfragile1 RealBadAngel: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Basic_Batch/
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18:59 Jordach windows*
18:59 Jordach oh, i hate scrollback
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19:10 BlockMen hi
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19:23 BlockMen Calinou, could you change the download-link on the "about"-box to minetest.net? -> http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Minetest_Wiki
19:23 BlockMen the offered version on .com is 0.4.1
19:25 Calinou done
19:25 Calinou (pointed to minetest.net's download page)
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19:30 BlockMen Calinou, thx
19:30 BlockMen and could you move that to releases? -> http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6033 ?
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19:36 Calinou moved
19:36 iqualfragile1 BlockMen: wouldnt you want to send that in as pull request?
19:36 Calinou thanks for respecting mod topic naming, for once
19:36 Calinou BlockMen, mese cookie for you :-D
19:37 * BlockMen : Yay, a mese cookie
19:39 * Calinou noticed
19:39 Calinou http://packages.debian.org/sid/minetest
19:39 Calinou debian. has. 0.4.6.
19:39 Calinou (sid only)
19:39 BlockMen iqualfragile1, no. i wont do for now. a few things can be improved and i think there are a few things that wont be merged.
19:40 BlockMen if they want add something of they will do
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20:09 BlockMen Jordach, i have added the requested screenshots
20:09 Jordach just saw
20:09 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90732#p90732
20:09 Calinou the more you know :)
20:09 Calinou Jordach, just axe
20:09 Calinou or... just circular saw
20:10 Jordach dafuq
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20:30 Exio is there any "mantained" inventory_plus version?
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20:40 * VanessaE is back
20:40 Exio wb VanessaE :P
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20:41 VanessaE thanks
20:41 Kacey wb v
20:41 Exio hahaha
20:42 VanessaE ?
20:42 Exio i got spammed with warnings with gcc
20:43 Exio tried with clang, even more
20:43 VanessaE ohh
20:43 Exio as hmmmm doesn't get them
20:43 PilzAdam Exio, then dont even look at mingw
20:43 Exio lol
20:44 Exio $ wc -l /tmp/log
20:44 Exio 2547 /tmp/log
20:44 Exio that was a make -j5 ^
20:45 PilzAdam make |grep "warning" |wc -l
20:46 Exio http://cadoth.net/~exio4/mt/build_log.clang.txt
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20:47 Exio $ grep 'warning' /tmp/log | wc -l
20:47 Exio 362
20:47 Exio PilzAdam: ^ here
20:48 Exio /home/exio4/sources/minetest/src/emerge.cpp:97:3: warning: delete called on 'Mapgen' that is abstract but has non-virtual destructor [-Wdelete-non-virtual-dtor]
20:48 Exio delete mapgen[i];
20:48 Exio by looking around, same warnings plus more ;P
20:50 ds-2k Exio: I made a rewritten version of inventory_plus here: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5824 (shows items in a menu instead of the inventory)
20:51 Exio is it compatible with the "old" inventory_plus?
20:51 VanessaE people still use inventory plus?
20:51 ds-2k It loads mod buttons that use inventory_plus's api
20:51 Exio i see
20:51 VanessaE get unified inventory instead :)
20:51 Exio VanessaE: armor 3d
20:51 ds-2k and shows with minetest.show_formspec()
20:52 ds-2k It works with unified inventory since it doesn't modify the inventory (uses /m chat command instead)
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20:54 Exio ds-2k: thanks!
20:54 Exio minetest got 200 issues, btw
20:54 Exio and 69 are enhacements, at least
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20:57 * Calinou posted issue 666
20:58 nyuszika7h Calinou: off-topic: do you know how to hack the HP with JS in candy box?
20:58 Exio hahaha
20:58 Calinou change amount of candies eaten
20:58 Calinou that's how it works
20:58 Calinou you haxor :P
20:59 nyuszika7h ah
20:59 nyuszika7h I have that on infinity
20:59 nyuszika7h also, I have a separate "cheater" save :3
20:59 Calinou I ate 4.8 million candies, I have about 11 million lp
20:59 nyuszika7h it doesn't save the infinity D:
20:59 Exio next i'm gonna shutup the next time
20:59 Calinou need 11.56 million lp for faster candies :P
20:59 Calinou 1089 HP :P
20:59 nyuszika7h still 100 HP D:
21:00 Calinou need to wait 2 seconds (real time) between "underwater cave" quests :P
21:00 PilzAdam nyuszika7h, do you play in hard mode?
21:00 nyuszika7h trying a big number
21:00 nyuszika7h PilzAdam: nope
21:00 Calinou in hard mode, eating candies is useless :P
21:00 nyuszika7h I have a hard save too, but it's too hard, I abandoned it
21:00 Calinou btw, if you look at the stats, the game got very popular these days
21:00 nyuszika7h ffs still 100 HP
21:00 Calinou 2× more saves in two weeks
21:00 nyuszika7h oh
21:00 nyuszika7h I set nbrowned
21:00 Exio i don't even know about what game are you talking :(
21:01 john_minetest Calinou: Maybe because everyone saved 2x : 1 cheated and one normal ;)
21:01 Exio s/(are) (you)/\2 \1/
21:01 john_minetest Exio: Candy Box
21:01 Exio about what is it? just looking at the screen?
21:02 john_minetest You have 178 candies!
21:02 john_minetest You have 454158 lollipops!
21:02 john_minetest You have eaten 23759 candies!
21:02 john_minetest You threw 200 candies on the ground...? (;_;)
21:02 john_minetest Exio: It is about eating candies.
21:02 john_minetest http://candies.aniwey.net/index.php
21:03 Exio i want 23759 candies irl
21:03 Calinou I thought Exio played candy box...
21:03 Exio never
21:03 Exio why Calinou?
21:03 Exio ehm
21:03 Exio what is the point of that
21:03 nyuszika7h brb
21:04 john_minetest Exio: Wait. After some time things will happen. It will become awesome.
21:04 * Exio enables firebug
21:04 nyuszika7h window.setInterval(function(){main.secInterval();},1);
21:04 BlockMen bye
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21:05 nyuszika7h lol Miranda for IRC
21:06 nyuszika7h HP: NaN/Infinity
21:06 nyuszika7h seems legit
21:06 PilzAdam nyuszika7h, beat the dev without pressing a key
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21:15 Exio i see
21:17 * Menche thinks there should be a Candy box! game mode for minetest
21:17 Menche with lollipop farming, a candy merchant, and potion brewing
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21:22 khonkhortisan http://wiki.openttd.org/Climates#Toyland
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21:40 john_minetest Menche: Good idea!
21:41 john_minetest With candy sword :D
21:41 PilzAdam john_minetest, -> #minetest-de
21:46 GhostlyDeath All my battery farms closed down ='(
21:47 GhostlyDeath and the local authority no longer likes me
21:49 john_minetest I know some people who were banned from a mc server because their cactus farms (HUUUUUUUGE cactus farms) killed the server once activated. And the server was a very strong one. But Millions of cacti being cut and growing at the same time are maybe a bit overpowered, even for the best servers :D
21:52 nyuszika7h PilzAdam: how do you beat the "Yourself" level?
21:52 PilzAdam the second map will show you the way
21:54 nyuszika7h PilzAdam: which map? I'm in my cheat profile :P
22:05 nyuszika7h PilzAdam: I beat "yourself" with GMOOH
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22:16 kaeza greetings
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22:34 khonkhortisan that's anti-capitalist
22:35 Exio hi kaeza :P
22:36 kaeza sup
22:37 Exio playing candy box
22:38 kaeza :D
22:39 kaeza playing Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones :3
22:39 * Menche can't get past the castle keep level of candy box :(
22:40 kaeza Menche, get moar HP
22:40 Exio 15
22:40 * Menche throws candies on the ground in a fit of anger
22:40 kaeza berserk potns help too
22:40 Exio oops
22:40 Menche get more HP?
22:40 Exio Production : 17 lp/sec
22:40 Exio :D
22:40 * Menche 's farm is producing 100 lp/sec
22:40 kaeza Menche, east moar candies
22:41 kaeza I ate 4038391 candies, now at 1021 HP
22:41 Exio i started playing like 2 hours ago lol
22:41 Exio 24lp/s
22:42 Exio 30 :D
22:42 Menche it takes 1,050,000 lp to get a level 6 sword?
22:43 kaeza yep
22:43 Exio and for me 50lp/s was super-l33t D:
22:44 * Menche planted 18,000 lollipops
22:44 kaeza Exio, protip: click the lollipop repeatedly
22:45 Exio 13k here :P
22:45 Exio kaeza: wut
22:45 Exio 14k :D
22:45 kaeza (the one next to the merchant)
22:45 Menche "Seriously, don't touch this lollipop"
22:45 Exio lol
22:46 Menche "Other customers may lick it after that, that's gross!"
22:46 Exio Production : 100 lp/sec
22:46 Exio hell yeah :D
22:46 kaeza don't waste any more lps
22:46 Menche wooo he cut the price! :D
22:46 kaeza 100 is the max legit
22:46 Exio ff
22:46 Exio already wasted 2k
22:46 * Exio now needs 4k
22:46 Menche he gives you candies if you poke his hat
22:47 sokomine strange behaviour of my client: sometimes it gets very slow now - so much that i eventually have to kill/close it and start anew
22:47 * Menche gorges on 16,000 candies
22:47 sokomine cpu usage becomes...erratic in such situations
22:48 Menche my server still isn't saving the map?!?!?
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22:51 Menche this is very not good
22:53 iqualfragile Coyou now that you can just … lets say manipulate … the javascript
22:53 iqualfragile sokomine: --> #minetest-de
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22:53 Exio btw
22:54 Exio for what is the chocolate bar
22:54 Menche you can coat your sword with the chocolate bar
22:54 VanessaE kaeza: *poke*
22:54 Exio ah
22:54 kaeza ow
22:54 Menche you need enough lollipops to encrust it first
22:54 Menche after encrusting it with candies
22:54 kaeza hi V
22:55 TheLastProject xy: I see you really are everywhere
22:55 VanessaE kaeza: feel like adding locked signs to homedecor, and making the existing ones obey node protection? :)
22:56 Exio wut TheLastProject
22:56 TheLastProject Exio: Cross-channel conversation :P
22:56 kaeza VanessaE, maybe
22:56 xy not cross-channel, cross network and cross channel
22:57 iqualfragile #wolfgame and #minetest are not that many channels
22:57 kaeza lemme clone again and take a look at it
22:57 TheLastProject Heh :P
22:57 VanessaE ok
22:57 Exio iqualfragile: /whois will not show allthe channels
22:57 Exio onl shared
22:58 TheLastProject I always thought /whois showed all channels which weren't hidden, regardless of sharing them
22:58 Exio without +i
22:58 xy for the records, 1 windows used (0 vertically / 0 horizontally split). 197 (of which 0 merged) buffers open: 1 core, 1 perl, 1 script, 182 irc channels, 4 irc servers, 8 irc queries
22:58 TheLastProject Ah...
22:58 Exio but the invisible flag/umode is default in freenode
22:58 TheLastProject Guess Freenode has other default settings
22:58 Exio 1 windows used (0 vertically / 0 horizontally split). 93 (of which 3 merged) buffers open: 1 core, 1 python, 3 irc servers, 5 irc queries, 83 irc channels
22:58 TheLastProject Is that a weechat script? :P
22:58 Exio yep
22:58 Exio weestats
22:59 TheLastProject 1 windows used (0 vertically / 0 horizontally split). 40 (of which 9 merged) buffers open: 1 core, 1 irc queries, 1 python, 1 script, 27 irc channels, 9 irc servers
22:59 TheLastProject I guess the "9 irc servers" is a bit of a lie. I have multiple connections to Freenode, for example :P
22:59 TheLastProject To use different nicks at different places
23:00 Exio s/use different nicks/stalk/
23:00 TheLastProject Nah, not stalk :P
23:00 iqualfragile s/use different nicks/manipulate votes/
23:00 Exio aww
23:01 TheLastProject Not manipulate votes either :P
23:01 iqualfragile 234 tabs open in firefox
23:01 TheLastProject It doesn't make sense to use this nick on games where I play with another nick :P
23:01 iqualfragile (we were comparing statisticts, werent we?)
23:01 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Fix the //move command (WorldEdit API is unaffected). d7ae19b7b8 2013-05-18T16:00:12-07:00 http://git.io/lx-nSw
23:01 TheLastProject I think I have 78. My Firefox crashed some time ago :(
23:01 Exio how do you look at the exact command?
23:02 Exio er,. exact amount*
23:02 Exio of tabs in ffx
23:02 TheLastProject Pentadactyl makes it easier to see for me, but I expect there to be addons
23:03 * TheLastProject goes offline now, though :P
23:03 iqualfragile Open Tab Count
23:03 iqualfragile gn8 The
23:03 iqualfragile TheLastProject:
23:03 iqualfragile tabfail…
23:03 TheLastProject lol, goodnight :P
23:03 Exio good night too
23:04 TheLastProject (77 tabs btw)
23:05 VanessaE damn he's quick
23:05 Exio wut
23:06 VanessaE uberi's last commit to worldedit.  I reported that bug only 15 mins prior :)
23:06 Exio ah
23:16 kaeza VanessaE, can you link me to the protector mod you are using?
23:16 kaeza (so I can test locally)
23:16 VanessaE sure, um...
23:17 VanessaE http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/node_ownership-20130123.zip
23:17 VanessaE try that
23:17 kaeza ok, thanks :)
23:17 VanessaE there's a function in homedecor/init.lua that handles this, though
23:17 PilzAdam <VanessaE> damn he's quick <- thats what she says :-p
23:17 VanessaE (it recognizes glomie's protector mod also)
23:18 VanessaE PilzAdam: :P
23:37 PilzAdam LOL http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90832#p90832
23:38 Menche plzzz lsn to me i want link to register and play mutli!
23:39 iqualfragile :D
23:39 * Menche likes plaing mutli
23:40 iqualfragile ah, btw: who administers minetest ru?
23:42 PilzAdam he is one post away from this: http://www.meme-generator.de/media/created/4hra01.jpg
23:44 iqualfragile pilzadam: nonono
23:44 iqualfragile there is not spoon --> there is no link
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23:45 kaeza VanessaE, I have to go now, but I think I may have fixed it. I will test & push later ok?
23:45 VanessaE ok
23:45 kaeza bbl
23:46 sokomine right now: 63% mem usage (on a machine with 4gb); cpu usage strangely jumping between 24% and 75%
23:46 sokomine very strange....
23:48 iqualfragile what does htop/top say?
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23:52 Jordach VanessaE, alright, i think we do need a FAQ
23:52 Jordach hello OldCoder
23:52 VanessaE meh
23:53 Jordach this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90832#p90832
23:53 VanessaE no one re FAQ's anyway
23:53 VanessaE reads*
23:53 Jordach bullshit.
23:53 OldCoder Hi!
23:53 OldCoder Jordach, howdy
23:54 VanessaE evening OldCoder
23:54 OldCoder VanessaE, hey!
23:55 Jordach OldCoder, any good news?
23:58 OldCoder Jordach, sort of
23:58 OldCoder Wait
23:59 OldCoder No news since the other day. I am very tired. But one step at a time.
23:59 OldCoder I was given a bed yesterday

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