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hi |
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hey |
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hi jojoa1997 |
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iqualfragile |
timezones are strange things… |
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kaeza |
anyone has experience programming under Java ME? |
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kaeza |
</offtopic> |
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kaeza |
s/under/for/ |
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Kacey |
huh |
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OldCoder |
Kacey, hi |
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sokomine |
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kaeza |
hello sokomine |
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sokomine |
hi |
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ShadowNinja |
In 'candies' what do I need to do, other than getting the lolipops, to get the "better sword" from the witch? Do I have to complete a stage? |
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enchilado |
ShadowNinja: kind of, yes |
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enchilado |
You need to have the... right sword |
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[0gb_us] |
Candy Box has no real point. It's just time-based grinding, basically. |
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ShadowNinja |
enchilado: The chocolate covered one? |
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enchilado |
ShadowNinja: yeah. |
| 01:52 |
enchilado |
[0gb_us]: um... |
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enchilado |
no... games... have a point? |
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[0gb_us] |
You nees the anvil to sharpen the chocolate sword. |
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enchilado |
They're games. |
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[0gb_us] |
Then you need to enchant it. |
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enchilado |
Oh, right. |
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enchilado |
I'd forgotten about that. |
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[0gb_us] |
Many games are actually fun though. Candy Box is a bad combination of boring yet addictive. |
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enchilado |
Why do you give a fuck what games other people like? |
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[0gb_us] |
Hmm? I don't care what people like. I was only putting in my two cents. |
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enchilado |
Your two cents don't make any sense. |
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[0gb_us] |
I disagree, but whatever. |
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[0gb_us] |
I just said Candy Bx is only time-based grinding. If you disagree, how would you describe it? |
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[0gb_us] |
*Box |
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enchilado |
[0gb_us]: you said it had no point, but no games do, regardless of how fun they are. |
| 01:58 |
enchilado |
[0gb_us]: did you finish the game? |
| 01:58 |
enchilado |
[0gb_us]: I'd prefer grinding where I can do other things while waiting for it to finish to a game where I have to mindlessly click on things for hours. |
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[0gb_us] |
I didn't finish, I stopped after getting up the stairs. |
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enchilado |
[0gb_us]: so you didn't even get to the interesting levels. |
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[0gb_us] |
You shouldn't have to go through many boring levels to get somewhere interesting. |
| 02:00 |
[0gb_us] |
Mindlessly clicking in no fun either though, I agree. |
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enchilado |
They're not really boring. |
| 02:01 |
enchilado |
It's not like you have to watch them. |
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[0gb_us] |
You sit and watch your character do stuff without you. Where's the interest? |
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[0gb_us] |
Anyway, if you have fun with it, great! I'll just stick with World of Goo, myself. |
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enchilado |
[0gb_us]: you realise later levels require interaction? |
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enchilado |
You get scrolls and potions reasonably early and later you can make your own |
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[0gb_us] |
I had scrolls and potions. |
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enchilado |
Did you have the cauldron? |
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[0gb_us] |
That didn't make it fun, that just added things to make grinding slower, as you use your candy to buy those instead of increase your strength. |
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Calinou |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6018 |
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Calinou |
lol |
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* Calinou |
voted "human" |
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* StarBlessed |
voted Some organism from world of imagination - Miniature Cthulhu! |
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Calinou |
more like ponies |
| 09:08 |
StarBlessed |
Tell me you're not a bronie... :( |
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* Calinou |
is not |
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StarBlessed |
YAY! You can live ;) |
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[0gb_us] |
Why do so many people have an issue with so-called "bronies"? |
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StarBlessed |
My.Little.Pony... ick |
| 09:18 |
[0gb_us] |
I still don't get it. A lot of people like a lot of other icky things, yet no one complains. But when it comes to cartoon horses .... |
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StarBlessed |
Its the same as carebears. They were cartoons designed to market to the female demographic. Not only that, but they lacked any substance at all. The stories were hollow and really void of content. That, and they're a bit girly for my liking. ;) |
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[0gb_us] |
Emptiness I understand. But female primary audience? That means hating "bronies" is sexist. |
| 09:23 |
StarBlessed |
No, Hating females is sexist. Hating something that was designed to be a marketing ploy aimed at girls... Thats integrity. :P |
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[0gb_us] |
I thought you were hating the males that liked My Little Pony, but not the females. That would be sexism. Are you hating the females too then? |
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StarBlessed |
LOL! Nice try [0gb_us]. You wont catch me out so easily. |
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[0gb_us] |
Catch you? What do you mean? |
| 09:26 |
[0gb_us] |
You either hate both sexes for watching it, neither, or you're sexist. Those are the only three options. |
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StarBlessed |
[0gb_us]: You're twisting my words. I wont rise to it. Go argue with someone else. |
| 09:29 |
[0gb_us] |
So you won't even answer a simple question of fairness? That sounds like a confession of guilt to me, but whatever. I'll leave you alone. |
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StarBlessed |
Welcome to the Internet, where every flamer has to get in the last word. |
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[0gb_us] |
I'm not flaming, I'm questioning your entirety, which you claimed to have. Having the last word does not make you a flamer. |
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StarBlessed |
ROFL. Ok. |
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* VanessaE |
wanders in |
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VanessaE |
good morning |
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[0gb_us] |
Good morning, VanessaE! |
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VanessaE |
nice little argument you have here :) |
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[0gb_us] |
Yeah. I'm known for getting into small arguments at times. |
| 09:54 |
VanessaE |
nothing wrong with that, G*d knows I've gotten into my share of them |
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[0gb_us] |
I'm looking for good games, but most of them are for consoles ... I'm looking for something to play on my laptop. Any suggestions? |
| 09:56 |
VanessaE |
Something good for a laptop.. hm |
| 09:57 |
VanessaE |
well, my husband plays bejeweled, yahtzee, and a few pinball games |
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[0gb_us] |
Hmm. Interesting, but not quite what I'm after. Thanks anyway. |
| 09:58 |
tripod |
world of goo |
| 09:58 |
tripod |
antichamber |
| 09:58 |
VanessaE |
well there is that candies game everyone's going ape over :) |
| 09:58 |
tripod |
stil haven't played it |
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[0gb_us] |
I'll look into Antichamber. I just finished World of Goo this morning. |
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[0gb_us] |
Candy Box is addicting, but not entertaining. Bad combination. |
| 10:02 |
VanessaE |
well you have to ask yourself something: |
| 10:02 |
VanessaE |
what is it about a game that you'd describe as "entertaining"? |
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[0gb_us] |
I can't really tell what you're supposed to do in Antichamber. It looks like puzzles built into walls and tunnels that lead back to where you started. |
| 10:02 |
VanessaE |
particularly if the game is already addictive. |
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[0gb_us] |
Well, there's got to be some sort of goal. And waiting around like in Candy Box doesn't seem entertaining. |
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VanessaE |
I would guess, without having played it, that Candy Box's goal is to just gain lots of candy, with the intent that you compete with others at the same task, sorta like playing Monopoly. |
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[0gb_us] |
It's not multiplayer. Other than that, yeah. |
| 10:05 |
VanessaE |
well I mean one person versus another in separate games |
| 10:06 |
[0gb_us] |
You sit and wait for candy to accumulate so you can increase your accumulation rate. |
| 10:06 |
VanessaE |
you know, "I got X candies now!" "Oh yeah? Well I have X+100000 now in my game!" etc. |
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[0gb_us] |
Hmm. Maybe that's why it doesn't interest me. I;m not competitive. |
| 10:07 |
VanessaE |
maybe get an emulator for some older computer or console (e.g ePSXe, VICE, Stella, whatever) and try some games from that era. There was a different quality to them that modern games lack. |
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* [0gb_us] |
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[0gb_us] |
Is that even legal though? |
| 10:08 |
VanessaE |
one of my favorites was Crash Bandicoot 3. Fucking addictive, and actually fun. |
| 10:08 |
VanessaE |
no, it isn't, but who gives two shits about copyright of old abandonware? |
| 10:09 |
VanessaE |
(to the degree of copying it for personal use I mean) |
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[0gb_us] |
I actually wish I could run Gamecube CDs on my computer. I'd buy them, I just don't want the console. |
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VanessaE |
there might be an emulator for that by now |
| 10:12 |
VanessaE |
"Dolphin" appears to be one such |
| 10:12 |
VanessaE |
http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/gamecube/ |
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[0gb_us] |
I'll be right back. I'm going to reboot to try to restore my sound. |
| 10:12 |
VanessaE |
ok |
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[0gb_us] |
Okay, that worked. |
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VanessaE |
good |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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VanessaE |
hi |
| 11:35 |
VanessaE |
http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3757801&cid=43747257 |
| 11:35 |
VanessaE |
lol |
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VanessaE |
(particularly, the AC at the end) |
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sfan5 |
hi |
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VanessaE |
hey |
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jojoa1997 |
Hello all! |
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VanessaE |
morning |
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Calinou |
hi |
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sfan5 |
MinetestBot! |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5! |
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Kacey |
i want to make a morebiomes mod... anyone want to help? |
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PilzAdam |
not until the API for v7 is out |
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PilzAdam |
and its trivial with that |
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VanessaE |
Kacey: use plants_lib. |
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VanessaE |
that's its purpose. |
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Kacey |
i guess i shall make a version for both |
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Kacey |
one for V6 and one for V7 |
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arsdragonfly |
http://minetest.net/servers |
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arsdragonfly |
lol the ip address looks funny |
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VanessaE |
which one? |
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VanessaE |
brb |
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arsdragonfly |
The one in the example |
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VanessaE |
oh heh |
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VanessaE |
yeah I see that now |
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iqualfragile |
good morning |
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VanessaE |
morning |
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Kacey |
how do i register a channel? |
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PilzAdam |
-> #freenode |
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sfan5 |
12.34.567.890 is not even a valid ip |
| 13:45 |
sfan5 |
12.34.56.78 would be |
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iqualfragile |
123456789? |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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sfan5 |
!op ShadowBot |
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PilzAdam |
there isnt :-( |
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RealBadAngel |
www.hmmm.float |
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RealBadAngel |
or double? ;) |
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RealBadAngel |
hi folks |
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sfan5 |
http://printf.hello.world |
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PilzAdam |
http://system.out.println.hello.world |
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RealBadAngel |
http://10 print "Hi" 20 goto 10.run |
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RealBadAngel |
good that is weekend |
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* RealBadAngel |
listens to Rama II - Long... LOUD |
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RealBadAngel |
thx to mt-main menu music player ;) |
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sfan5 |
what I wanted to do but didn't do yet: "create an emulator for a hardware platform (designed by me) and make an assembler for it" |
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sfan5 |
!op ShadowBot |
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RealBadAngel |
use z80 lib |
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RealBadAngel |
you can define your own opcodes with it |
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RealBadAngel |
in fact you can redesign it to emulate any cpu. even non existant |
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RealBadAngel |
http://libz80.sourceforge.net/ |
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Jordach |
hey all |
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Jordach |
there |
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Jordach |
that sunufabitch is gone |
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Kust |
Hi all when i try to play minetest and press on the exe it says it stopped working. btw i got windows 8 |
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Jordach |
Kust, is this 0.4.6 stable right? |
| 15:13 |
Kust |
yes it is |
| 15:13 |
PilzAdam |
Kust, can you try to get some debug output as described here: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5073 ? |
| 15:13 |
Jordach |
and not to mention this is not on a ARM Processor |
| 15:13 |
Kust |
ok |
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Kust |
but i got no debug because minetest won't run |
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PilzAdam |
can your run the exe from cmd? |
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PilzAdam |
*you |
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Kust |
how do i do thath ? |
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Kust |
i opned the cmd |
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Kust |
*opened |
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PilzAdam |
just use cd to get to the minetest/bin directory and type "minetest.exe" |
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Kust |
ok |
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Kust |
ok |
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Kust |
i am at the exe and right cliked |
| 15:18 |
Kust |
and the properties |
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Jordach |
Kust, is your Windows 8 a surface? |
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Kust |
surface ? |
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rubenwardy |
hi all |
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Kust |
what do you mean by surface ? |
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rubenwardy |
It is incredible annoying how youtube handles comments |
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Superpelican |
Hello everyone |
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Superpelican |
I'm having problems with Minetest 0.4.6 under openSUSE 12.3 X86_64 |
| 15:23 |
Superpelican |
I get a extremely small screen |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
Superpelican, re size the window |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
thats it |
| 15:24 |
PilzAdam |
Kust, Im not very familiar with Windows 8; IIRC there was a topic in the forums, maybe you find help there |
| 15:24 |
Superpelican |
That wasn't exactly want I meant |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
Superpelican, youre using irrlicht 1.8.x right? |
| 15:24 |
Jordach |
thats the cause aparently |
| 15:25 |
Superpelican |
I installed Minetest from the openSUSE 12.3 games repo |
| 15:25 |
Superpelican |
I got a small screen inside the Minetest window |
| 15:25 |
Superpelican |
The rest was black |
| 15:25 |
Superpelican |
But now after months it is suddenly gone! |
| 15:26 |
Superpelican |
I just started Minetest to make a screenshot of the bug and post it and then it was gone! |
| 15:27 |
PilzAdam |
Superpelican, this "small window inside the window" bug is known; you can fix it by resizing the window; it also only appears with Irrlicht 1.8 |
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Jordach |
http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90607#p90607 |
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Superpelican |
Thanks, I had already searched the web about it a few times but didn't find anything so thought I was the only one having it |
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Jordach |
yay, openshot for windows is being made |
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Jordach |
OldCoder, youre client is join spamming |
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STHGOM |
byehibyehibyehi!!! |
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Jordach |
ShadowBot` sucks ass |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
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OldCoder |
Jordach, Not spamming |
| 15:48 |
OldCoder |
Jordach, I have network problems today.... trying to fix them |
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Jordach |
ah |
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OldCoder |
Need to rejoin again |
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Jordach |
aye |
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rubenwardy |
back! |
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STHGOM |
hi |
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STHGOM |
hi |
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PilzAdam |
STHGOM, could you please stop saying "hi" every 5 minutes? |
| 16:23 |
rubenwardy |
hi |
| 16:23 |
Jordach |
hi |
| 16:23 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: edit his /etc/cron file |
| 16:23 |
rubenwardy |
hi |
| 16:23 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
| 16:23 |
rubenwardy |
hi |
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PilzAdam |
rm -f STHGOM/etc/cron |
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rubenwardy |
Ideas: (I will probably get kicked for this) |
| 16:25 |
rubenwardy |
> Minetest day |
| 16:25 |
rubenwardy |
> Lets annoy PilzAdam day |
| 16:25 |
rubenwardy |
> Good mese remembrance day |
| 16:25 |
rubenwardy |
nope |
| 16:25 |
RealBadAngel |
hi TheLastProject |
| 16:25 |
rubenwardy |
hi! |
| 16:25 |
TheLastProject |
Hi? |
| 16:25 |
RealBadAngel |
sure, hi :) |
| 16:25 |
RealBadAngel |
its a "Hi" day today |
| 16:25 |
PilzAdam |
<rubenwardy> > Lets annoy PilzAdam day <- probably a bad idea to annoy OPs >:-) |
| 16:26 |
Jordach |
not in this channel |
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Jordach |
:P |
| 16:26 |
PilzAdam |
:-( |
| 16:26 |
RealBadAngel |
chill out PA and just say "HI" :) |
| 16:26 |
PilzAdam |
NO |
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* Jordach |
passes some weed to PilzAdam, after all, Pilz is mushroom |
| 16:27 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe |
| 16:27 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, farming:weed ? |
| 16:27 |
Jordach |
weed:spliff |
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* Calinou |
smokes some farming:weed |
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* Calinou |
now smokes a trollinou:480 |
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RealBadAngel |
hi there fella :) |
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* Calinou |
is now deaf since the fan of that 480 started spinning |
| 16:28 |
RealBadAngel |
deaf or not, you can still read |
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* Jordach |
rolls on the floor laughing |
| 16:30 |
RealBadAngel |
PA? so? you dont want to say simple "hi" to us? |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
pulseaudio doesn't say "hi" |
| 16:30 |
Calinou |
it says "phphihapaihpiohpi" |
| 16:30 |
PilzAdam |
http://youtu.be/gvdf5n-zI14 |
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Jordach |
last night i saw something funny |
| 16:31 |
Jordach |
i swear i saw an ad with Calinou in it |
| 16:35 |
RealBadAngel |
too much weed farmed? ;) |
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Calinou |
Jordach: ad about red eclipse? |
| 16:42 |
Jordach |
Calinou, some french yougurt |
| 16:43 |
Jordach |
calin+ was the name |
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Calinou |
lol |
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PilzAdam |
Calinou, there is still one untranslated string in the French Minetest translation |
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PilzAdam |
RealBadAngel, Polish needs an update, too |
| 17:20 |
Calinou |
done |
| 17:21 |
PilzAdam |
"ZQSD"... ? |
| 17:23 |
RealBadAngel |
PilzAdam, i will update in on weekend |
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Jordach |
cisoun, update your pack |
| 17:25 |
RealBadAngel |
i am lookin now for music to create presentation of new features |
| 17:25 |
RealBadAngel |
i mean shaders |
| 17:26 |
RealBadAngel |
i decided for two tunes composed by marek bilinski |
| 17:26 |
RealBadAngel |
ofc covers of them |
| 17:26 |
RealBadAngel |
well, i said i decided |
| 17:26 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: azerty keyboards |
| 17:27 |
RealBadAngel |
im not sure which one to pick up |
| 17:27 |
Calinou |
on windows, the conversion is done automagically |
| 17:27 |
RealBadAngel |
this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbonWLPkkuo |
| 17:27 |
Calinou |
but on linux most people will rebind :P |
| 17:27 |
Calinou |
ideally the keys should be shown according to what the player uses |
| 17:27 |
Calinou |
:/ |
| 17:27 |
Calinou |
gtg now |
| 17:27 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, how about "WASD / ZQSD" then? |
| 17:28 |
RealBadAngel |
or this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6J57bfKzpM |
| 17:29 |
STHGOM |
bye |
| 17:29 |
RealBadAngel |
hi |
| 17:29 |
RealBadAngel |
you mean "hi" :p |
| 17:29 |
STHGOM |
i do? |
| 17:29 |
RealBadAngel |
you did |
| 17:30 |
STHGOM |
bye |
| 17:30 |
RealBadAngel |
its international sayin hello and hi day |
| 17:30 |
RealBadAngel |
aw, he was just rude ;) |
| 17:31 |
RealBadAngel |
have you guys clicked the links i posted? |
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| 17:32 |
RealBadAngel |
theyre imho nice pieces of music so dont afraid to ;) |
| 17:33 |
RealBadAngel |
i think im gonna use the second one |
| 17:34 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/Mercury%20Rain.ogg |
| 17:34 |
RealBadAngel |
hehe |
| 17:34 |
RealBadAngel |
i know |
| 17:34 |
RealBadAngel |
but those two pieces are POLISH |
| 17:34 |
RealBadAngel |
by Marek Bilinski |
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* Jordach |
recycles the minetest folder |
| 17:35 |
RealBadAngel |
lemme find the originals of those two |
| 17:35 |
RealBadAngel |
both are more than 20 yrs old |
| 17:36 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUU0f3FWGhs |
| 17:36 |
RealBadAngel |
1984 |
| 17:37 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yObk06-EeUg |
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RealBadAngel |
1987 |
| 17:39 |
RealBadAngel |
imho this musician was born in the wrong country |
| 17:39 |
RealBadAngel |
and the wrong time |
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Jordach |
RealBadAngel, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TX44xnIBUA |
| 17:40 |
RealBadAngel |
hes equal to JM Jarre |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
i actually own this game |
| 17:40 |
Jordach |
and still play it |
| 17:41 |
RealBadAngel |
but thats not music at all |
| 17:41 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, we should rename Minetest to "Minetest 3D" to be moderns :D |
| 17:41 |
PilzAdam |
-s |
| 17:41 |
RealBadAngel |
i had to lower the volume |
| 17:41 |
RealBadAngel |
its trash |
| 17:41 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, lemme find the cd versions |
| 17:42 |
RealBadAngel |
to much "shhh shhh shhh's" |
| 17:42 |
RealBadAngel |
ears are hurting |
| 17:42 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, ah, youre sound equaliser is over the top |
| 17:42 |
RealBadAngel |
and melody is artificial |
| 17:43 |
RealBadAngel |
its a melody "lets grab toilet paper and head to wc" |
| 17:43 |
RealBadAngel |
and say "hi ho, to toilet we go" |
| 17:45 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, same artist, as mp3: http://66.90.118.45:777/ost/iridion-ii/gpqtsgzqxo/28-credits-interstellar-journey-.mp3 |
| 17:45 |
RealBadAngel |
ok i will try |
| 17:45 |
RealBadAngel |
dl'ing |
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Jordach |
RealBadAngel, this is from the sequel |
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* Jordach |
can't find the original credits |
| 17:46 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, heres the albums: http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/iridion-ii and http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/iridion-3d-ii-arranged-soundtrack-perfect-selection |
| 17:47 |
RealBadAngel |
started as merry christmas but then went sad |
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Jordach |
RealBadAngel, http://66.90.118.45:777/ost/iridion-3d-ii-arranged-soundtrack-perfect-selection/lxdzdqnhqk/06-spiral-bliss.mp3 |
| 17:49 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SiZrwhHh2E |
| 17:50 |
RealBadAngel |
this is original author, 20 and some more yrs later |
| 17:50 |
RealBadAngel |
live |
| 17:51 |
RealBadAngel |
you know why i like this particular melody? |
| 17:51 |
RealBadAngel |
its the very same kind Popcorn is |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, http://66.90.118.45:777/ost/iridion-ii/nfnwqxyqob/09-azuki-canyon-aniki-.mp3 |
| 17:52 |
RealBadAngel |
VERY hard to forget |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
probably my favourite |
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TheLastProject |
Hmm, I guess fish has some nice stuff... |
| 17:54 |
RealBadAngel |
click and watch this: |
| 17:54 |
RealBadAngel |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST6jaaYCCX4 |
| 17:55 |
RealBadAngel |
close your eyes and hear |
| 17:55 |
RealBadAngel |
original record |
| 17:55 |
RealBadAngel |
black one |
| 17:55 |
RealBadAngel |
vinyl |
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RealBadAngel |
Jordach, how old are you? |
| 17:58 |
Jordach |
17 |
| 17:58 |
RealBadAngel |
:) |
| 17:58 |
RealBadAngel |
im 41 |
| 17:59 |
RealBadAngel |
so no wonder we do like different scores |
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Jordach |
RealBadAngel, heres the original game's ost: http://www.iridion2.com/files/iridion_soundtrack_single_02_iridion_3d_spacestation_snippet.mp3 |
| 17:59 |
Jordach |
its a small snipper |
| 17:59 |
Jordach |
snippet* |
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OldCoder |
Hi |
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RealBadAngel |
this is actually a nice one part |
| 18:00 |
RealBadAngel |
Hi OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
Jordach, PM |
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OldCoder |
RealBadAngel, Howdy |
| 18:00 |
RealBadAngel |
good, and you? |
| 18:00 |
RealBadAngel |
have you found new place for yourself? |
| 18:02 |
RealBadAngel |
Jordach, still nice, has a melody, toooo short, not usable |
| 18:02 |
RealBadAngel |
nice jiggle |
| 18:02 |
RealBadAngel |
i think i need to recover my demoscene contacts |
| 18:04 |
RealBadAngel |
most of the folks that were member of our group are stil active |
| 18:05 |
RealBadAngel |
i lately found out that guy who made music for my games and demo scores was makin background music for tv shows with polish president |
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Jordach |
oh thats fucking fantasic |
| 18:06 |
RealBadAngel |
i dont know who to call |
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Jordach |
ghostbusters? |
| 18:06 |
RealBadAngel |
the president or find a number service lol |
| 18:06 |
RealBadAngel |
im not kidding |
| 18:07 |
RealBadAngel |
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=andysynthe&oq=andy&gs_l=youtube.3.0.35i39j0l9.1397.2693.0.5152.4.4.0.0.0.0.114.373.3j1.4.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.Bx-26bjJv9A |
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RealBadAngel |
3 results |
| 18:07 |
RealBadAngel |
2 with polish president |
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RealBadAngel |
3rd is my game |
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TerrenceCurl |
VAnessaE |
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TerrenceCurl |
can i pm you |
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TerrenceCurl |
? |
| 18:13 |
Calinou |
lol, TF2 |
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TerrenceCurl |
VanessaE ^^^^^ |
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Jordach |
hai LandMinwe |
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Jordach |
Mine* |
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TerrenceCurl |
hey |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
youre building is better than mine |
| 18:14 |
TerrenceCurl |
what building? |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
ad for the mann co store: |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
READY |
| 18:14 |
Calinou |
10 PRINT "HEAVY NEEDS A HAT" |
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Calinou |
20 GOTO SHOP |
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Calinou |
RUN |
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TerrenceCurl |
i have been playing with sfans minecraft to minetest script |
| 18:14 |
TerrenceCurl |
it works |
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Jordach |
LM, yeah, i guessed that |
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Jordach |
fuck sakes MobileDeviceHelper: stop crashing |
| 18:15 |
Calinou |
mmm, TF2 wants me to download an update |
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* Calinou |
restarts steam |
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Jordach |
is it steam efficient format |
| 18:16 |
Calinou |
yeah |
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Calinou |
but I can't download anymore |
| 18:16 |
Jordach |
then fuck it |
| 18:16 |
* Calinou |
's brother is back on his laptop |
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TerrenceCurl |
look Jordach |
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TerrenceCurl |
http://i.minus.com/ijtFZDaItPbR2.png |
| 18:17 |
TerrenceCurl |
it took some moving to ge tit right |
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Jordach |
\O/ |
| 18:17 |
TerrenceCurl |
LOL |
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Calinou |
-1 for no shaders |
| 18:18 |
Calinou |
+1 for voxel art :D |
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Jordach |
so its -+0 |
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Jordach |
if its sign and magnitude |
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* Calinou |
is playing xonotic |
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TerrenceCurl |
i never tried the shaders i think |
| 18:19 |
TerrenceCurl |
or any other new feature |
| 18:19 |
Jordach |
huh |
| 18:20 |
TerrenceCurl |
still that shadow glitch is killing me |
| 18:20 |
TerrenceCurl |
when you w.e a giant chunk out |
| 18:20 |
TerrenceCurl |
you get a giant shadow |
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TerrenceCurl |
and using //fixlight takes forever |
| 18:20 |
TerrenceCurl |
and plating saplings does too lol |
| 18:20 |
TerrenceCurl |
before planting saplings made the whole shadow go away |
| 18:20 |
TerrenceCurl |
no it seems to get darker |
| 18:21 |
RealBadAngel |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noKH_RXHrVI |
| 18:21 |
RealBadAngel |
ok, whos willin to make more up to date version of this tune? |
| 18:22 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, got a midi file? |
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RealBadAngel |
there was no midi those time with this hardware |
| 18:23 |
RealBadAngel |
all was hardcoded |
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Jordach |
RealBadAngel, mod converters exist |
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Jordach |
im not hunting one down |
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RealBadAngel |
we had saa philips synthetiser then |
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RealBadAngel |
we used 2 channels and force interfere of sound waves |
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RealBadAngel |
to produce guitars, drums etc |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, code this: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6023 |
| 18:24 |
RealBadAngel |
no fuckin mod player around to play our music |
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TerrenceCurl |
thats a bad idea Jordach |
| 18:25 |
TerrenceCurl |
atleast the fact that one can send files to a server :D |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
TerrenceCurl, its actually one specified file |
| 18:25 |
TerrenceCurl |
yeah .png |
| 18:25 |
RealBadAngel |
lol |
| 18:25 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, https://github.com/iamgreaser/it2everything |
| 18:26 |
RealBadAngel |
we used mod specification to make our own |
| 18:26 |
RealBadAngel |
but just for notes |
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Jordach |
https://github.com/iamgreaser/sackit |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
both of these will probably help |
| 18:26 |
TerrenceCurl |
has oldcoder been around? |
| 18:26 |
TerrenceCurl |
i need his notes lol |
| 18:26 |
* Calinou |
ordered a new headset |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
TerrenceCurl, he's about |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
since we're talking about audio: p |
| 18:26 |
Calinou |
:p* |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
but he's now got work |
| 18:27 |
RealBadAngel |
jordach, hold on for a piece of marek bilinski and my code |
| 18:27 |
Jordach |
ooh |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
i made a cpu song generator: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?s8i5fpw261n0fbr |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
exports in midi |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
well, thats a song |
| 18:29 |
Jordach |
should have rephrased it |
| 18:29 |
RealBadAngel |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2oLYC5PigE |
| 18:29 |
RealBadAngel |
and my version of popcorn: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnhM2w3CGkA |
| 18:30 |
RealBadAngel |
one and only bit of music i reproduced ;) |
| 18:30 |
RealBadAngel |
all thx to allmighty saa1059 Philips 6 channels sound chip |
| 18:31 |
RealBadAngel |
*1069 |
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Jordach |
RealBadAngel, dafuq is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnEoyEgsgig |
| 18:31 |
Jordach |
if that's caustics, then clap clap clap |
| 18:31 |
RealBadAngel |
ah, this is water shader :) |
| 18:32 |
RealBadAngel |
youtube fucked whole effect up |
| 18:32 |
RealBadAngel |
this is not something to watch in low quality |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
it's visible in 480p |
| 18:33 |
RealBadAngel |
i made it in 1080p |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
1440p ftw |
| 18:33 |
Calinou |
or better, 2160p |
| 18:33 |
Jordach |
shut it Calinou |
| 18:34 |
RealBadAngel |
http://i.imgur.com/kcsI7wN.jpg |
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RealBadAngel |
this is how it looks like |
| 18:34 |
TerrenceCurl |
yes |
| 18:34 |
Jordach |
much better |
| 18:34 |
RealBadAngel |
any better? |
| 18:34 |
TerrenceCurl |
god hear my prayers |
| 18:34 |
TerrenceCurl |
OldCoder can i pm you? |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, make plantlike sway |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
and leaves |
| 18:35 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 18:35 |
OldCoder |
TerrenceCurl, Sure |
| 18:35 |
LMOwnz |
lol ok one sec |
| 18:35 |
RealBadAngel |
this weeken im goin to release bump mapping shaders code |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
LMOwnz, i liked the last nick |
| 18:35 |
LMOwnz |
thanks |
| 18:35 |
LMOwnz |
it was totally random |
| 18:35 |
Jordach |
it suited you for once |
| 18:35 |
LMOwnz |
didnt think i could get in tbh |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
if you act like this more often, then you'll be accepted more often |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
also: landmine does seem justa little harsh |
| 18:36 |
RealBadAngel |
i also have more effects workin already |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
although thats a nice mod idea |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
landmines by landmine |
| 18:36 |
RealBadAngel |
but theyre far more advanced |
| 18:36 |
LMOwnz |
lol |
| 18:36 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90465#p90465 |
| 18:37 |
Jordach |
some of my music |
| 18:37 |
RealBadAngel |
and requirin too much additional core changes |
| 18:37 |
LMOwnz |
im not that good of a  modder |
| 18:37 |
RealBadAngel |
later my changes will introduce sun, moon pos as a light source |
| 18:38 |
RealBadAngel |
wind |
| 18:38 |
RealBadAngel |
thus physical light source |
| 18:38 |
RealBadAngel |
and real shading of the scene |
| 18:39 |
RealBadAngel |
wind is for moving water and wave plants |
| 18:39 |
RealBadAngel |
but can be used for more tasks |
| 18:39 |
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| 18:40 |
RealBadAngel |
i do have complete: sky domes, sky spheres (for stars and clouds) |
| 18:40 |
RealBadAngel |
sun/sky position thx to fiat_lux.py |
| 18:41 |
RealBadAngel |
so we can simulate each piece of globe |
| 18:41 |
RealBadAngel |
up to exact date |
| 18:41 |
LMOwnz |
jordach now that i have you in a good mood |
| 18:41 |
LMOwnz |
do you know what i should do wiht planetminetest.com |
| 18:41 |
LMOwnz |
? |
| 18:41 |
RealBadAngel |
bump mapping was introduced while making water |
| 18:42 |
RealBadAngel |
(reflections are not done yet) |
| 18:42 |
RealBadAngel |
but god rays and lens flare are done |
| 18:43 |
RealBadAngel |
those last two are a cheat by now |
| 18:43 |
RealBadAngel |
since im using my own light sources |
| 18:44 |
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| 18:45 |
RealBadAngel |
but damn, i really need some1 good wih gfx |
| 18:46 |
RealBadAngel |
im just a coder, cant do anything fancy |
| 18:46 |
RealBadAngel |
without proper graphic files... |
| 18:46 |
Jordach |
LMOwnz, ehm, i think it should be used for something special like minetest affiliated content |
| 18:47 |
LMOwnz |
of course...hmm minetest.com seems to be very inactive |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
LMOwnz, i have nothing against you, and nothing for you |
| 18:47 |
LMOwnz |
or not active at all |
| 18:47 |
LMOwnz |
i dunno what i should do lol |
| 18:47 |
Jordach |
replace minetest.com |
| 18:47 |
RealBadAngel |
is that shortcut for landmine? |
| 18:48 |
Jordach |
LMOwnz, give me some time, and i could make a decent site for minetest related content |
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| 18:48 |
LMOwnz |
Yes RBA :D |
| 18:48 |
Jordach |
LMOwnz, i'll welcome you more often if youre nice |
| 18:49 |
LMOwnz |
you have to be nice |
| 18:49 |
RealBadAngel |
can you leave this place? |
| 18:49 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, has he caused a problem |
| 18:49 |
RealBadAngel |
im asking you nicely |
| 18:49 |
Jordach |
let him be |
| 18:50 |
LMOwnz |
no RBA your not the boss of me |
| 18:50 |
LMOwnz |
i will only leave if jordach tells me |
| 18:50 |
LMOwnz |
:D |
| 18:50 |
LMOwnz |
for some reason haha |
| 18:50 |
LMOwnz |
anyhow |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
LMOwnz, youre a good person |
| 18:50 |
RealBadAngel |
i just dont like such morons like you |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
and i've seen it before |
| 18:50 |
LMOwnz |
i have some spare cash lol gonna get a small server running |
| 18:50 |
LMOwnz |
and buy some hosting for the domain |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
LMOwnz, better idea |
| 18:50 |
Jordach |
much much better |
| 18:50 |
RealBadAngel |
so i asked nicely for you to leave |
| 18:51 |
Jordach |
youre a skilled world editor right |
| 18:51 |
LMOwnz |
not the skilled hah but go on |
| 18:51 |
Jordach |
PM |
| 18:51 |
LMOwnz |
k |
| 18:52 |
RealBadAngel |
i just hate by definition folks that found joy in destroyin others creations |
| 18:52 |
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| 18:53 |
RealBadAngel |
so, you, SIR, are just unwanted bag full of shit |
| 18:53 |
LMOwnz |
cool strory RBA |
| 18:53 |
RealBadAngel |
spicy |
| 18:53 |
RealBadAngel |
so get outta here |
| 18:54 |
RealBadAngel |
sadly i dont have powers to ban you |
| 18:54 |
LMOwnz |
true |
| 18:55 |
RealBadAngel |
but belive me i know how |
| 18:55 |
RealBadAngel |
i was op on ircnet channels long before you were even born |
| 18:56 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, you don't know LMOwnz's age |
| 18:56 |
RealBadAngel |
hes a student |
| 18:56 |
RealBadAngel |
i was student 20 yrs ago |
| 18:56 |
RealBadAngel |
clear? |
| 18:57 |
drizz |
RealBadAngel: so what did he ruin? |
| 18:58 |
RealBadAngel |
he took the job for minetest Al' Kaida |
| 18:58 |
RealBadAngel |
thats why hes hated |
| 18:58 |
RealBadAngel |
but i must admit c55 mentioned he's usefull |
| 18:59 |
RealBadAngel |
he finds security holes |
| 18:59 |
drizz |
oh |
| 18:59 |
LMOwnz |
yay |
| 18:59 |
* TheZenKitteh |
must have bad timing.. everytime I come in here someone is fussing with someone else lol |
| 18:59 |
RealBadAngel |
sooner or later we can show him a finger |
| 18:59 |
drizz |
like that's a hard thing todo O.o |
| 19:01 |
LMOwnz |
no one is fussing with nobody |
| 19:01 |
LMOwnz |
RBA is just letting everyhting he has inside him go |
| 19:01 |
LMOwnz |
i can respect that |
| 19:01 |
RealBadAngel |
Landmine: if you will put 10% of the effort you do in destroyin, into creation of something |
| 19:01 |
RealBadAngel |
you would be loved here |
| 19:01 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol "Scientists study violent winds of Uranus" |
| 19:01 |
RealBadAngel |
but now, gtfo |
| 19:02 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5784 |
| 19:02 |
drizz |
LMOwnz: what did you ruin |
| 19:02 |
RealBadAngel |
9% |
| 19:02 |
TheZenKitteh |
so if I'm understanding this correct, LMOwnz is a griefer and RealBadAngel doesn't like that? |
| 19:03 |
RealBadAngel |
landmine is our ultimate griefer |
| 19:03 |
RealBadAngel |
and most annoyin shit on the channel |
| 19:04 |
RealBadAngel |
which is propably his goal to be like that |
| 19:04 |
TheZenKitteh |
That reminds me, how's minetest coming with griefer protections? Any changes in last about a year (last time I looked) |
| 19:04 |
RealBadAngel |
many mods out there |
| 19:05 |
TheZenKitteh |
I know a lot has changed in the last year lol |
| 19:05 |
RealBadAngel |
most of them because of one fucker |
| 19:05 |
RealBadAngel |
you want to ask me again why i dont like him? |
| 19:06 |
TheZenKitteh |
there will always be people who like to create and people who like to destroy |
| 19:06 |
rubenwardy |
and the people that are cretins |
| 19:06 |
RealBadAngel |
hes more complicated |
| 19:06 |
RealBadAngel |
hes actually inteligent |
| 19:07 |
drizz |
speak for yourself |
| 19:07 |
RealBadAngel |
but shall be shoot down in cradle |
| 19:08 |
RealBadAngel |
you will never know what you gonna find in your candie |
| 19:08 |
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| 19:09 |
Jordach |
hello rapheal |
| 19:09 |
Jordach |
TheZenKitteh, ^ |
| 19:10 |
* TheZenKitteh |
pokerface |
| 19:10 |
TheZenKitteh |
hey jordach |
| 19:10 |
RealBadAngel |
so |
| 19:11 |
RealBadAngel |
one day can come one will smuggle there tiny piece of code |
| 19:11 |
RealBadAngel |
to cut the mexico out |
| 19:11 |
drizz |
wat |
| 19:11 |
RealBadAngel |
and we will forget bout landmines :P |
| 19:12 |
* TheZenKitteh |
agrees with drizz |
| 19:12 |
RealBadAngel |
my vote is to cut the fucker |
| 19:13 |
RealBadAngel |
and forget bout him |
| 19:13 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol I sense much hostility in RealBadAngel towards LMOwnz |
| 19:13 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, i suggest you stop |
| 19:13 |
Jordach |
hostility is why minetest falls apart |
| 19:14 |
Jordach |
not to mention i can use my forum presence to sway users against you |
| 19:14 |
TheZenKitteh |
you do know if LMOwnz is a troll, being angry at them or paying them any mind will not make them go away |
| 19:14 |
TheZenKitteh |
as they say, don't feed the trolls |
| 19:14 |
RealBadAngel |
its him who brings most diseasters to mt world |
| 19:14 |
RealBadAngel |
not me |
| 19:14 |
LMOwnz |
i have a vpn RBA they already tired that |
| 19:14 |
LMOwnz |
so keep ranting please |
| 19:14 |
LMOwnz |
im smiling while dirnking coke |
| 19:15 |
TheZenKitteh |
love your enemies.. it confuses the fek out of them |
| 19:15 |
drizz |
my.. god.. |
| 19:15 |
RealBadAngel |
i can cut off ur continent] |
| 19:15 |
drizz |
so much immaturity.. |
| 19:15 |
RealBadAngel |
so choke |
| 19:15 |
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| 19:15 |
RealBadAngel |
and stfu |
| 19:16 |
Jordach |
HEY HEY |
| 19:16 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, /ignore |
| 19:16 |
rubenwardy |
<Jordach> not to mention i can use my forum presence to sway users against you |
| 19:16 |
rubenwardy |
would not work |
| 19:16 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, MC users go by post count |
| 19:16 |
rubenwardy |
According to my servey, you are less respected than RBA |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, but is he remembered after the mod is installed? |
| 19:17 |
rubenwardy |
do you have ANY mods? |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, wool |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
and its original incarnation: colour_blocks |
| 19:17 |
TheZenKitteh |
MC users in general are ignant. there are a lot of very intelligent ones but going strictly by post count is ignant imo. one should not judge to begin with but if they must, go by quality not quantity |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
TheZenKitteh, explain jojoa1997 |
| 19:17 |
RealBadAngel |
sorry folks. i think youre missing the point |
| 19:18 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, just ignore him# |
| 19:18 |
RealBadAngel |
one idiot make a hobby to destroy our project |
| 19:18 |
TheZenKitteh |
jordach explain jojoa1997 how? I don't even know who they are exactly. I've been fairly absent from minetest for awhile |
| 19:18 |
Jordach |
TheZenKitteh, he's a dumb MC player |
| 19:19 |
Jordach |
he can sure make a mod, but he cant look at programming in lua to save a drowing turd |
| 19:19 |
RealBadAngel |
and we are facing him for months like ladies with too short pants |
| 19:19 |
rubenwardy |
http://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=search&author=Jordach&search_in=topic&forum%5B%5D=11&show_as=topics&keywords=%5Bmod%5D |
| 19:19 |
rubenwardy |
hmm |
| 19:19 |
rubenwardy |
Nothing of value |
| 19:19 |
TheZenKitteh |
well if he is jordach then he's one of the 75 odd % |
| 19:19 |
RealBadAngel |
sorry with me it wont work this way |
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| 19:19 |
RealBadAngel |
im gonna cut him out permamently |
| 19:19 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, i never used today's standards |
| 19:19 |
rubenwardy |
hmm |
| 19:19 |
LMOwnz |
cool story RBA |
| 19:20 |
rubenwardy |
It would be great if you got back into modding |
| 19:20 |
LMOwnz |
so much negativity atm |
| 19:20 |
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| 19:20 |
TheZenKitteh |
as for looking at lua, I've looked into lua a little but due to lack of desire I haven't spent much time trying to learn it yet |
| 19:20 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, sure |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
but i dislike lua |
| 19:21 |
rubenwardy |
I know what you mean |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
its horribly designed |
| 19:21 |
rubenwardy |
Write a javascript parser in lua! |
| 19:21 |
RealBadAngel |
LMOwnz, i dont pay a tiny shit about your what do you think. you are lost to this community. period. |
| 19:21 |
rubenwardy |
and encourages bad practices |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
HEY HEY |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, drop it |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
youre antagonising |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
drop. it. |
| 19:21 |
rubenwardy |
Just ignore him |
| 19:21 |
rubenwardy |
I am |
| 19:22 |
LMOwnz |
doesnt seem that way RBA |
| 19:22 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol RealBadAngel, why don't you just use the ignore feature of your messenger on LMOwnz? that's what I do to people I don't wish to talk to |
| 19:22 |
LMOwnz |
but i respect your opinion |
| 19:22 |
RealBadAngel |
because i HATE such creatures |
| 19:22 |
drizz |
I still don't have the slightest clue what their problem is |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
hold on |
| 19:23 |
TheZenKitteh |
lol I don't hate anyone at this time. used to and found that having hate towards another even if they deserved it was pointless |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
i've just found a channel attack method |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
and we all just saw it |
| 19:23 |
TheZenKitteh |
having hate only hurts the hater |
| 19:24 |
RealBadAngel |
huh |
| 19:24 |
LMOwnz |
changing my name to ShadowBot? |
| 19:24 |
LMOwnz |
lol |
| 19:24 |
LMOwnz |
seems legit |
| 19:24 |
RealBadAngel |
propably |
| 19:24 |
Jordach |
if ShadowBot changes nick, i'll test it |
| 19:24 |
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| 19:24 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 19:24 |
rubenwardy |
is "ShadowBot" registered? |
| 19:24 |
RealBadAngel |
he may be get grown with time and understand some things |
| 19:25 |
Jordach |
rubenwardy, yes |
| 19:25 |
rubenwardy |
meh# |
| 19:25 |
rubenwardy |
So you can not do it |
| 19:25 |
Jordach |
but i can type /kick BackupCoder quick enough to test |
| 19:25 |
Jordach |
minetestbot fails to check auth |
| 19:25 |
LMOwnz |
with webchat you can still use a registered name |
| 19:25 |
LMOwnz |
im pretty sure with a client |
| 19:26 |
LMOwnz |
not sure im not that good at irc or anything to this matter |
| 19:26 |
RealBadAngel |
but sorry, ive have seen so much anger in net, caused by "you cannot see me" |
| 19:26 |
RealBadAngel |
so ban is the first word |
| 19:26 |
LMOwnz |
sure |
| 19:26 |
TheZenKitteh |
RealBadAngel: think about this for a moment. if you have so much hate for LMOwnz, who between you two feels worse? |
| 19:27 |
TheZenKitteh |
from what I can tell LMOwnz is lulzing |
| 19:27 |
LMOwnz |
anyhow Jordach i bought the VPS lol gonna set up the server with oldcoder guide |
| 19:27 |
Jordach |
actually, LMOwnz is being the good guy |
| 19:27 |
Jordach |
RealBadAngel, you've become the enemy |
| 19:27 |
Jordach |
has he attacked this channel? no. |
| 19:27 |
RealBadAngel |
bring ANYTHING here i broke in MT world |
| 19:27 |
* drizz |
still don't know what the fuck the issue is between the two |
| 19:27 |
TheZenKitteh |
there is no enemy and no good or bad. its all an illusion |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, can i have a word? |
| 19:28 |
RealBadAngel |
this guy was having fun in destroyin servers, creations of MT player |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
has he done it recently? |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
ask yourself that |
| 19:28 |
RealBadAngel |
players |
| 19:28 |
Jordach |
he may have reconciled |
| 19:28 |
LMOwnz |
news flash i havent even gone on servers in months lol |
| 19:29 |
TheZenKitteh |
or if you want to see it as such, good and bad are subjective. what is bad to one may be good to another |
| 19:29 |
drizz |
RealBadAngel: so he's griefed, that's it? |
| 19:29 |
Jordach |
i once left myself logged into redcrabs 0.4-dev |
| 19:29 |
RealBadAngel |
LMOwnz, you deserved it well |
| 19:29 |
Jordach |
and my brother griefed the fuck out of it |
| 19:29 |
RealBadAngel |
you wonder why im aware of it?? |
| 19:29 |
Jordach |
so before you poke fingers. actually check your info. |
| 19:30 |
rubenwardy |
ShadowBot: bye |
| 19:30 |
TheZenKitteh |
of course I will say that if a minetest server had enough players on at all times, could be fun having griefers around. would be a chance to wage war pvp style |
| 19:30 |
rubenwardy |
ShadowBot: hello |
| 19:31 |
TheZenKitteh |
of course with so few players on most that I've seen, easy for someone to log in and destroy without resistance |
| 19:31 |
drizz |
if somebody successfully griefs, I blame the server admin, and not the griefer. |
| 19:31 |
Jordach |
hold on. can i clear the channel for a moment |
| 19:31 |
RealBadAngel |
thats why i admitted he helped us a bit |
| 19:31 |
Jordach |
its no LM's fault entirely |
| 19:31 |
LMOwnz |
thats what i said drizz lol |
| 19:31 |
TheZenKitteh |
drizz, the server admin might not always be able to prevent it. a dedicated griefer can seem legit and behave a long time |
| 19:31 |
Jordach |
not* |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
because back then griefing protection was literally SHIT |
| 19:32 |
drizz |
TheZenKitteh: well, protection mods + world backups |
| 19:32 |
RealBadAngel |
but his personality, finding fun in destroyin. its not my type |
| 19:32 |
drizz |
so don't date him |
| 19:32 |
Jordach |
and most defences now can be beated by determination |
| 19:32 |
RealBadAngel |
jeez |
| 19:32 |
TheZenKitteh |
protection mods tend to use a lot of resources and world backups are generally only done (on my servers) once a day |
| 19:32 |
drizz |
470G /opt/services/minetest/backups |
| 19:32 |
drizz |
(ʘωʘ) |
| 19:33 |
RealBadAngel |
even after 10 bottles of vodka and bein paid $10 millions |
| 19:34 |
TheZenKitteh |
drizz is that zoidburg? |
| 19:34 |
RealBadAngel |
there are things man dont do |
| 19:34 |
drizz |
TheZenKitteh: quite possibly |
| 19:34 |
rubenwardy |
protection mods do not need to use many resources |
| 19:34 |
rubenwardy |
All they need to do is read from a table, and cancel placing if nessacary |
| 19:35 |
rubenwardy |
necessary |
| 19:35 |
TheZenKitteh |
rubenwardy: of all the protection mods I've used, all have used a lot of resources and slowed everything down quite a bit |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
actually its simpler than that |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
my design is rather simple: |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
allocate custom sized arrays |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
from say, worldedit |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
and then assign users who can build and dig |
| 19:35 |
Jordach |
and each area should have names |
| 19:36 |
drizz |
how is that not super resource-consuming? |
| 19:36 |
Jordach |
all as separate text files |
| 19:36 |
rubenwardy |
serialisation ftw |
| 19:36 |
ShadowNinja |
rubenwardy: Yes, It is registered. |
| 19:37 |
TheZenKitteh |
also to note, of the protection mods I've tried, a griefer can lag the heck out of a server with many fairly easily. I won't go into detail so as not to give any any ideas |
| 19:37 |
rubenwardy |
They can just read the code |
| 19:37 |
drizz |
tbh, protection shouldn't even be done in lua |
| 19:37 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 19:37 |
TheZenKitteh |
personally I think griefing protection should be in the game itself and not as a mod |
| 19:38 |
TheZenKitteh |
hey OldCoder |
| 19:38 |
rubenwardy |
Why not, drizz? |
| 19:38 |
TheZenKitteh |
afk a mih |
| 19:38 |
TheZenKitteh |
min |
| 19:38 |
rubenwardy |
There is hacking protection in core game |
| 19:38 |
drizz |
because you don't have enough control over your resources |
| 19:38 |
STHGOM |
i think if a protetion mod is in the game itself it should be able to turn off |
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| 19:39 |
drizz |
i.e. there's a lot of metadata being stored and iterated on tables |
| 19:39 |
rubenwardy |
Obvoisely |
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| 19:39 |
rubenwardy |
Also there are many different types of protection |
| 19:39 |
testman42 |
Yo. Minetest could really use a page on Wikipedia |
| 19:39 |
Jordach |
testman42, we tried already |
| 19:39 |
testman42 |
And? |
| 19:39 |
testman42 |
what happened? |
| 19:40 |
Jordach |
deleted |
| 19:40 |
rubenwardy |
Not enough reliable resource |
| 19:40 |
rubenwardy |
s |
| 19:40 |
Jordach |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minetest |
| 19:40 |
rubenwardy |
I am now #10! http://forum.minetest.net/userlist.php?username=&show_group=-1&sort_by=num_posts&sort_dir=DESC&search=Search |
| 19:40 |
PilzAdam |
testman42, there is one in the german wikipedia |
| 19:41 |
rubenwardy |
testman43: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rubenwardy/Minetest |
| 19:41 |
rubenwardy |
For some reason that was not deleted |
| 19:41 |
rubenwardy |
And it has no more reliable sources than the english one has |
| 19:41 |
PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, maybe because its in your userspace? |
| 19:41 |
rubenwardy |
no, for some reason the GERMAN one was not deleted |
| 19:42 |
PilzAdam |
the german one has reliable resources |
| 19:42 |
rubenwardy |
I think it was because it did not have it's own personal snob |
| 19:42 |
PilzAdam |
-re |
| 19:42 |
rubenwardy |
no it does not |
| 19:42 |
rubenwardy |
I have looked through them |
| 19:42 |
rubenwardy |
mostly blogs, articles and reviews. |
| 19:42 |
PilzAdam |
well, the english wikipedia sucks then |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
Resources hunt: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BbcG5Zg2bFOMTW_3EgFeIGKqvcA-Lhp-mGdDOaiQKP4/edit |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
-re |
| 19:43 |
* PilzAdam |
wont click a google link |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
Looking for sources for minetest |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
You are stupig |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
stupid |
| 19:43 |
rubenwardy |
Paranoid |
| 19:44 |
rubenwardy |
What is the worst they can do, record how often you visit a page |
| 19:44 |
rubenwardy |
? |
| 19:44 |
PilzAdam |
they make money with my data without giving a part of it to me |
| 19:44 |
rubenwardy |
nope |
| 19:44 |
rubenwardy |
They display advertising to you based on your data |
| 19:45 |
PilzAdam |
so they make money |
| 19:45 |
rubenwardy |
and if you do not click them, they do not recieve money |
| 19:45 |
sfan5 |
griefer successfully banned! \o/ |
| 19:45 |
Warr1024 |
PilzAdam: do you want me to change my pull req and add a FOV client->server packet to the protocol? |
| 19:45 |
PilzAdam |
google also does not show unfiltered search results |
| 19:45 |
PilzAdam |
Warr1024, yes |
| 19:46 |
rubenwardy |
and how is that related to google drive? |
| 19:46 |
Jordach |
sfan5, just tell RBA that LM hasnt done anything wrong |
| 19:46 |
Warr1024 |
I'll take a shot at that. Whatever we end up deciding to do with this thing in the end, it's probably best the server have that info... |
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sfan5 |
ShadowNinja: fix yer Internet |
| 19:46 |
sfan5 |
Jordach: why? |
| 19:46 |
PilzAdam |
Warr1024, also fix he math if you think its wrong |
| 19:46 |
Warr1024 |
I also noticed that our isBlockInSight function has a fair bit wrong with it, like it assumes a regular conical viewing frustrum, when the real one is more like a trapezoidal prism. |
| 19:47 |
Jordach |
<RealBadAngel> LMOwnz, i dont pay a tiny shit about your what do you think. you are lost to this community. period. |
| 19:47 |
Jordach |
oops |
| 19:47 |
Warr1024 |
the problem is that I don't know what the RIGHT math is... I tried a few things, and they made the problem more or less severe, but none was an optimal solution that made it go away entirely... |
| 19:47 |
Jordach |
meant to /msg that |
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PilzAdam |
rubenwardy, if you think what google does is ok then sure, go ahead and use it |
| 19:49 |
Jordach |
PilzAdam, best spam preventation ever |
| 19:49 |
PilzAdam |
its my personal choice to not use google |
| 19:49 |
rubenwardy |
I do not think it is ok |
| 19:50 |
rubenwardy |
It should not record data for that kind of use |
| 19:50 |
rubenwardy |
BUT |
| 19:50 |
rubenwardy |
It does not bother me, because I do not search for adult content |
| 19:50 |
rubenwardy |
or anything else |
| 19:50 |
rubenwardy |
(ie: bank details) |
| 19:50 |
rubenwardy |
And it does not sell to a third party |
| 19:51 |
Jordach |
trust me |
| 19:51 |
PilzAdam |
nether! |
| 19:51 |
Jordach |
google offers me porn once in a while |
| 19:51 |
Jordach |
'tis a good life |
| 19:51 |
PilzAdam |
*never |
| 19:51 |
Jordach |
that should be our joke when we say no |
| 19:51 |
Jordach |
nether! |
| 19:51 |
Jordach |
nether again shall that happen |
| 19:52 |
PilzAdam |
best nether mod ad ether! |
| 19:52 |
STHGOM |
cya |
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Jordach |
hey Taoki |
| 19:53 |
Taoki |
hi |
| 19:53 |
rubenwardy |
It is impossible to avoid data recording / havesting on the internet |
| 19:53 |
rubenwardy |
It is every where |
| 19:53 |
Jordach |
Taoki, i might have worked out my model's bug |
| 19:53 |
rubenwardy |
PilzAdam: http://ubuntuone.com/7fI7s63SDPNg3Sju9MSIQa |
| 19:53 |
rubenwardy |
the content of the document on google drive |
| 19:54 |
PilzAdam |
<rubenwardy> It is impossible to avoid data recording / havesting on the internet <- not really, noscript, adblock and blocking cookies is a good start |
| 19:55 |
rubenwardy |
What about php side? |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
Taoki, Make sure all of your vertex groups have same name as at least one bone. |
| 19:55 |
rubenwardy |
*server |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
fucking obvious |
| 19:56 |
Warr1024 |
PilzAdam: actually, there are SOME tracking capabilities that are nearly impossible to block. https://panopticlick.eff.org/ |
| 19:57 |
* rubenwardy |
is making a quirky HTML5 platform game |
| 19:59 |
LMOwnz |
back |
| 19:59 |
LMOwnz |
let me test what we had said |
| 19:59 |
ShadowBot |
didnt work i think |
| 19:59 |
ShadowBot |
lol |
| 19:59 |
ShadowBot |
fail |
| 20:04 |
Warr1024 |
camera.cpp, line 346: m_fov_x = 2 * atan(0.5 * m_aspect * tan(m_fov_y)); |
| 20:04 |
iqualfragile |
Warr1024: nope, i have faked an browser request |
| 20:04 |
Warr1024 |
to which c55 commented "WTF is this? this can't be right" |
| 20:05 |
Warr1024 |
I think there might be something wrong with m_fov_x, which would explain why the existing isBlockInSight only seems to happen on the x axis for me, normally. |
| 20:05 |
Warr1024 |
though it might also be related to how I'm testing... |
| 20:06 |
Warr1024 |
iqualfragile: it doesn't matter if you fake it. If you fake it in the same way across multiple requests, they can use that to track you. |
| 20:06 |
Warr1024 |
in fact, the less information you provide, sometimes your fingerprint is more unique. |
| 20:07 |
Warr1024 |
the safest way to fool panopticlick is to exactly mimic the fingerprint of a popular UA. |
| 20:07 |
LMOwnz |
hey Warr1024 |
| 20:07 |
Warr1024 |
hi |
| 20:09 |
iqualfragile |
jup, windows 32 bit firefox right now |
| 20:09 |
Warr1024 |
iqualfragile: it's kind of a fun game, to see how low you can get your "1 in X" score :-) |
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Calinou |
PilzAdam: +1 |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
micheal larabel insults me every week! |
| 20:12 |
Calinou |
for using adblock :3 |
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* RealBadAngel |
is afk |
| 20:15 |
Calinou |
away messages kill |
| 20:15 |
RealBadAngel |
it was manual away message |
| 20:15 |
RealBadAngel |
:P |
| 20:17 |
Warr1024 |
therefore, also a lie. |
| 20:17 |
RealBadAngel |
whatever, cya folks |
| 20:17 |
Warr1024 |
:-) |
| 20:18 |
RealBadAngel |
bed is screamin out loud |
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| 20:21 |
LMOwnz |
RealBadAngel i have someone on pm saying i shouldnt piss you off |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
since when beds talk |
| 20:22 |
LMOwnz |
explain why plz |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
must be angelina jolie's bed then |
| 20:22 |
Jordach |
zing |
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* Jordach |
high fives Calinou |
| 20:22 |
* Calinou |
accepts Jordach's high fiving |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
</TF2> |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/gallery/S792nNC |
| 20:24 |
Jordach |
OH GAWD |
| 20:29 |
LMOwnz |
iqualfragile are you there? |
| 20:29 |
iqualfragile |
i am here |
| 20:29 |
Calinou |
looks like "throw the notch" game, Jordach |
| 20:29 |
LMOwnz |
then answer the pm |
| 20:29 |
LMOwnz |
you didnt answer the question |
| 20:29 |
Calinou |
it works like a random MLP game! |
| 20:29 |
Calinou |
but with notch instead of rainbow dash. |
| 20:29 |
TheZenKitteh |
back for a few |
| 20:30 |
Jordach |
Calinou, oh gawd |
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TheZenKitteh |
welp nvm time to go ta ta |
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sfan5 |
Calinou: lol |
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| 20:35 |
Jordach |
fuck this gaming mic is sensitive |
| 20:35 |
Jordach |
i can hear the hard disk noises |
| 20:35 |
Calinou |
sound-dampened case FTW |
| 20:35 |
* Calinou |
is getting a "closed" headset soon anyway :P |
| 20:35 |
Calinou |
(QPAD QH-90, white) |
| 20:35 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i use tritons |
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* Calinou |
is tired of his 20 euro philips thingy |
| 20:36 |
Calinou |
not very comfortable, the mike is meh |
| 20:36 |
Calinou |
but the audio quality is decent |
| 20:36 |
Calinou |
it still lasted 2 years, impressive for that kind of headset :-D |
| 20:37 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i can hear my own typing louder and clearer than normal ears |
| 20:37 |
Jordach |
which is a shitty kind of statement |
| 20:37 |
Calinou |
I can hear my keyboard easily while typing, that's quite normal |
| 20:37 |
* Calinou |
is full SSD, no HDD, so no HDD noise |
| 20:37 |
Jordach |
Calinou, mines like, click click click |
| 20:38 |
Warr1024 |
Calinou: SSD noise :-) |
| 20:38 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix Problem with uk Translation f9b5771274 2013-05-17T13:38:23-07:00 http://git.io/LXkMrw |
| 20:38 |
sfan5 |
that translation contains russian things |
| 20:39 |
Calinou |
Warr1024: my SSD doesn't coil whine :P |
| 20:39 |
drizz |
looks like greek |
| 20:39 |
Jordach |
Calinou, here's my sensitive mic in action: http://www.mediafire.com/?cvt2scuv3ud3vsc |
| 20:39 |
Calinou |
and sound-dampened case helps a lot against coil whine anyway |
| 20:40 |
* Jordach |
uses mediafire as omploader is down |
| 20:40 |
Warr1024 |
Calinou: they can also create electrical noise due to variable power consumption that can leak out through a cheap sound card's DAC. |
| 20:40 |
Jordach |
cheap sound card? i use a sound blaster audigy |
| 20:40 |
Warr1024 |
(I used to be able to "hear" the CPU on an old machine...) |
| 20:40 |
Calinou |
this is coil whine, pretty much |
| 20:40 |
Calinou |
also, I use an integrated one |
| 20:40 |
Calinou |
sound cards are marketing BS, better get good audio gear (what I'm doing) rather than a sound card |
| 20:41 |
Warr1024 |
never heard the "coil whine" term. |
| 20:41 |
Calinou |
also, plug your headset on the back, not on the front of your case |
| 20:41 |
Jordach |
Calinou, bollocks |
| 20:41 |
Jordach |
i get less 27mhz interference |
| 20:41 |
Calinou |
makes it impossible to hear coil whine in your headset |
| 20:41 |
Calinou |
:P |
| 20:41 |
Calinou |
Jordach: poorly cabled PC then |
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| 20:41 |
Calinou |
in old PCs, it can improve audio quality |
| 20:41 |
Jordach |
Calinou, my father used to use CB communications |
| 20:41 |
Calinou |
but sound cards are russian roulette on linux :3 |
| 20:41 |
Jordach |
Calinou, mine worked |
| 20:41 |
* Calinou |
has an ALC898 which works pretty well |
| 20:41 |
Jordach |
my audigy is a 7.1 bastard |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
stereo is enough for me |
| 20:42 |
Jordach |
also: i might start a let's play series |
| 20:42 |
drizz |
haven't had any problems whatsoever with sound cards on linux for years |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
suddenly: asus, creative |
| 20:42 |
Jordach |
uhm Calinou. i use creative and it worked with PA |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
well, it depends on cards :P |
| 20:43 |
Jordach |
fuck off is it |
| 20:43 |
Jordach |
vista is only using 512mb of ram :> |
| 20:43 |
* Calinou |
is surprised at least two people in this channel have a dedicated sound card |
| 20:43 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i do DJ nights occasionally |
| 20:43 |
Jordach |
i need the hardware |
| 20:43 |
Calinou |
ah |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
well it can be useful then, I don't |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
esp. on my dubstep electro night |
| 20:44 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
just need to use mumble/teamspeak, listen to music and play games :P |
| 20:44 |
OldCoder |
Where have fire vessels etc. mods moved to? |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
"common" |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
OldCoder, common |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/minetest/common |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
which will be minetest_game again |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
minetest_game just provides legacy now but you still need it |
| 20:44 |
OldCoder |
k |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
common is a pseudo game |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
you put it in "games" |
| 20:44 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 20:44 |
OldCoder |
Do I need to rename it? |
| 20:44 |
Jordach |
common mods is a spy |
| 20:44 |
OldCoder |
Or just provide common? |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
also, don't forget to update and recompile your engine :P |
| 20:44 |
Warr1024 |
wow, holy shit, fixing m_fov_x almost fixed #718... |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
no, OldCoder |
| 20:44 |
Calinou |
it should just be "common"" |
| 20:45 |
Jordach |
-" |
| 20:45 |
OldCoder |
proceeding |
| 20:45 |
Jordach |
Calinou, i get better fps on vista than i do on 7 and xp |
| 20:45 |
Jordach |
it's like my nvidia driver is built for vista |
| 20:46 |
Calinou |
try updating to the latest driver |
| 20:46 |
Calinou |
also, when you compare, disable desktop effects |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
no serious gamer but mark shuttleworth uses these |
| 20:47 |
Calinou |
(:D) |
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Jordach |
Calinou, cant |
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Jordach |
im a GeForce 6200 |
| 20:49 |
Calinou |
ah |
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Jordach |
my driver is 308.xx |
| 20:49 |
Jordach |
last time i checked |
| 20:50 |
kaeza |
hi all |
| 20:50 |
* Jordach |
thought you were VanessaE |
| 20:50 |
kaeza |
wot |
| 20:50 |
LMOwnz |
hi kaeza :D |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
you said hi all |
| 20:50 |
Calinou |
<KaezaE> hi |
| 20:50 |
Calinou |
:-) |
| 20:50 |
Jordach |
oh god no |
| 20:51 |
Jordach |
Calinou, what have i told you about no kaeza x VanessaE |
| 20:51 |
kaeza |
Calinou, lol |
| 20:51 |
Jordach |
im honestly taking the piss |
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| 20:53 |
Jordach |
hey dante123 |
| 20:53 |
Jordach |
kaeza, good news |
| 20:53 |
Jordach |
i found my original files for the handdrawn pack |
| 20:53 |
dante123 |
hi jordach |
| 20:54 |
kaeza |
Jordach, nice! |
| 20:55 |
Calinou |
126×126, made by jordach (the resolution, more than the pack) |
| 20:56 |
Jordach |
Calinou, kaeza: http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?1250j3jf3okkaxh |
| 20:56 |
Jordach |
theres the source files |
| 20:57 |
kaeza |
lol .bmp |
| 20:58 |
Warr1024 |
wow, that made a big difference: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5675294/ |
| 21:00 |
* kaeza |
left the browser open all night |
| 21:00 |
* kaeza |
had 2m candies |
| 21:01 |
* kaeza |
hit the 'eat all candies' button ._. |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
well, you get lots of HP |
| 21:04 |
ShadowNinja |
kaeza: What quest are you on? |
| 21:04 |
kaeza |
hell |
| 21:04 |
LMOwnz |
becomming straight |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
just ate 200k candies, went from 1007 HP to 1027 HP :P |
| 21:04 |
Calinou |
hell too |
| 21:05 |
* Calinou |
has about 8mlp |
| 21:05 |
* ShadowNinja |
is far behind |
| 21:05 |
Calinou |
need 11.56mlp for faster candies |
| 21:05 |
Calinou |
better sword isn't worth it IMO :P |
| 21:05 |
Calinou |
(level 9 right now) |
| 21:05 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: Me too... |
| 21:06 |
* ShadowNinja |
is at castle stairs. Any tips? |
| 21:06 |
LMOwnz |
what are you guys playing? |
| 21:06 |
Calinou |
drink health potion before neuromancer, ShadowNinja |
| 21:07 |
|
LMOwnz was kicked by Calinou: candy box |
| 21:07 |
Calinou |
:oops, that was not medicine: |
| 21:08 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: Thanks! :-) |
| 21:08 |
Calinou |
drink it just before the neuromancer at the end |
| 21:08 |
Calinou |
else ghosts will halve your health |
| 21:08 |
Warr1024 |
PilzAdam: Haven't committed it yet, but I DID manage to fix the client-side disappearing terrain issue. Haven't looked at the server-side stuff yet, but getting the client to display the blocks it already has correctly should help... |
| 21:08 |
Calinou |
ShadowNinja: will this ban any user named LMOwnz? |
| 21:08 |
ShadowNinja |
I drunk a few. My health in about 500 now. |
| 21:09 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: No, any user with LMOwns in their ident. |
| 21:09 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, what was this ban for? |
| 21:09 |
Calinou |
:/ |
| 21:09 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: landmine |
| 21:10 |
ShadowNinja |
ShadowBot: iban *LMOwnz*!*@* |
| 21:10 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: Error: I need to be at least halfopped to ban someone. |
| 21:10 |
ShadowNinja |
ShadowBot: iban *LMOwnz*!*@* |
| 21:10 |
ShadowBot |
ShadowNinja: iban [<channel>] [--{exact,nick,user,host}] <nick> [<seconds>] |
| 21:10 |
Calinou |
what does the ! mean |
| 21:10 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: It seperates the nick and ident |
| 21:11 |
ShadowNinja |
ShadowBot: mode +b *LMOwnz*!*@* |
| 21:11 |
Calinou |
ah, ok |
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Calinou |
so, this bans anybody named LMOwnz? |
| 21:11 |
* PilzAdam |
sees LM join -dev and -mods... |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
-mods is dead |
| 21:12 |
Calinou |
not op in -dev |
| 21:12 |
ShadowNinja |
Calinou: Yes. Any nick containing LMOwnz. |
| 21:12 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, LM tries it anyway |
| 21:12 |
sfan5 |
Calinou: -mods was not registered last time I checked |
| 21:15 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Move kahrl to core devs in credits tab fedf644635 2013-05-17T14:15:10-07:00 http://git.io/SEftEA |
| 21:16 |
PilzAdam |
why wanst this done already? |
| 21:19 |
Warr1024 |
what does it take to get into contrib_active_strs? :-) |
| 21:20 |
PilzAdam |
money |
| 21:20 |
Warr1024 |
I thought it was code...? |
| 21:22 |
PilzAdam |
we somewhat look at this: https://www.ohloh.net/p/minetest-c55/contributors?query=&sort=commits_12_mo |
| 21:23 |
PilzAdam |
but there are no official rules how to get in |
| 21:23 |
Warr1024 |
I guess I could just add it as part of a pull req? :-) |
| 21:23 |
Warr1024 |
(or would that just cause the pull req not to get pulled...) |
| 21:24 |
PilzAdam |
I would probably remove that part of the diff and merge the rest |
| 21:25 |
Warr1024 |
yeah, damn, I'm only on "newest contributors" and "recently active", and not on the short list at that. |
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* Calinou |
's kudos is 6 |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
well, "we prefer instagib metl3" is 6 |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
and "Calinou" is 6 too |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
let's add them: 12 kudos! |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
>:D |
| 21:26 |
Warr1024 |
what's the kudos mean? |
| 21:26 |
Calinou |
"primary language C++", lol |
| 21:27 |
PilzAdam |
Calinou, "troll" was not availible as a language :-p |
| 21:27 |
PilzAdam |
Warr1024, nobody know, but everyone wants them :D |
| 21:28 |
Calinou |
too bad "we prefer instagib metl3" doesn't have "gettext" as his primary language |
| 21:28 |
Calinou |
so that I can try to be hired, "hey, i'm a gettext expert, it's an awesome language" |
| 21:28 |
Warr1024 |
well, on a more serious note... I was thinking I should break the server and client part of issue 718 into 2 different pulls, since (1) the server stuff is probably more involved, and (2) the client-side fix is pretty small, but has a significant impact on the severity of the issue... |
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* Kacey |
needs to get on that list... |
| 21:31 |
PilzAdam |
Warr1024, you dont even have to create pull requests for very small fixes if you have the attention of a core dev |
| 21:31 |
PilzAdam |
just link the commit in your repo |
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* Kacey |
is a good tester |
| 21:31 |
Warr1024 |
oh, thanks. |
| 21:31 |
* Calinou |
reached 300 comment karma on reddit (310) |
| 21:31 |
* Calinou |
sings Richard Stallman's "Freenode Staff" |
| 21:31 |
OldCoder |
Hi. I have successfully built and tested latest git MT somewhere. |
| 21:31 |
Warr1024 |
trying to get this shit rebased... |
| 21:32 |
Calinou |
Kacey: testing will not get you on that list 8) |
| 21:32 |
Kacey |
http://ifunny.mobi/f#bl02Vt2s |
| 21:32 |
OldCoder |
In June I will attempt to update my own servers. But to do this I'd wish to keep LevelDB. |
| 21:32 |
PilzAdam |
git rebase --mode=troll FTW |
| 21:32 |
Calinou |
kudos is determined by amount of commits done by you (or merged) |
| 21:32 |
Kacey |
but testing is just as important as the code itself... |
| 21:32 |
OldCoder |
Is anybody able to tell me about degree of integration of LevelDB with current git? |
| 21:32 |
PilzAdam |
OldCoder, we plan to merge LevelDB somewhere in the near future |
| 21:33 |
PilzAdam |
probably directly after 0.4.7 or so |
| 21:33 |
Warr1024 |
PilzAdam: I actually never figured out how to make rebase work for me, but since my commit(s) are already squashed, I can just cherry-pick it into a new branch :-) |
| 21:33 |
OldCoder |
PilzAdam, I wish to update to 0.4.6 so people will be happy. |
| 21:33 |
OldCoder |
Is there a way to merge the changes? |
| 21:34 |
OldCoder |
If so, all right |
| 21:34 |
OldCoder |
Rather |
| 21:34 |
PilzAdam |
no, the pull request is not rebased to current HEAD or 0.4.6 |
| 21:34 |
OldCoder |
If not, all right |
| 21:34 |
OldCoder |
So I'd need to merge everything manually |
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* OldCoder |
shrugs |
| 21:34 |
OldCoder |
We'll see |
| 21:35 |
PilzAdam |
Warr1024, if you merge pull request then you abort the rebase at the first merge confilct and shout at the one who has opened the pull request ;-) |
| 21:36 |
Warr1024 |
I replaced my commit with one against the current master: https://github.com/Warr1024/minetest/commit/4c2459852968f4564688fe356407367c791de67e |
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Warr1024 |
branch is "issue718" |
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PilzAdam |
seems to work fine |
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Warr1024 |
awesome, thanks |
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Warr1024 |
I guess that to fix the server end of this, we'd need (1) a new packet for the client to send FOV to server, (2) somewhere for the server to store the per-client FOV settings, (3) a hook somewhere in the client to detect FOV changes and send the new FOV to the server. |
| 21:46 |
Warr1024 |
is it easy to add a new packet type without crapping up the rest of the protocol, i.e. so that outdated servers will just ignore unexpected packets from the client? |
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Kacey |
http://youtu.be/Frtax3pXPtg |
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kaeza1 |
lol Jordach is 17? |
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kaeza1 |
I somehow thought he was in his 20s :| |
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kaeza1 |
late 20s* |
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PilzAdam |
Warr1024, can this " WTF is this? It can't be right" comment be removed? |
| 22:09 |
Warr1024 |
actually, yes, sorry. |
| 22:10 |
Warr1024 |
it doesn't look much improved, but it actually IS right now. |
| 22:12 |
Warr1024 |
I'm making progress on the client/server thing. |
| 22:12 |
Warr1024 |
I added f32 fov to player as a public property, similar to how the hud stuff was done. |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Warr1024 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix math for isBlockInSight. Fixes #718 (client-side). 1369503aba 2013-05-17T15:13:01-07:00 http://git.io/hNyLEg |
| 22:23 |
Warr1024 |
ooh, awesome, thanks |
| 22:23 |
PilzAdam |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/718 lol, all these references :-) |
| 22:24 |
Warr1024 |
yeah, sorry, github n00b here. |
| 22:24 |
PilzAdam |
you dont need to write "Fixes #123" into commit messages |
| 22:25 |
PilzAdam |
reopened |
| 22:25 |
Warr1024 |
thanks. |
| 22:25 |
Warr1024 |
turns out this FOV thing is a bit more interesting, since client FOV can actually change at runtime. |
| 22:26 |
PilzAdam |
actually only in singleplayer |
| 22:26 |
Warr1024 |
i.e. the configured one is the same, but the ACTUAL FOV we have to use for isBlockInSight is dependent on getFovMax(), which changes if the window is resized and the aspect changes. |
| 22:26 |
PilzAdam |
oh |
| 22:27 |
Warr1024 |
so I'm now hunting for a good place to catch the camera being reconfigurated... |
| 22:27 |
PilzAdam |
well, maybe its better to just send 180° then |
| 22:27 |
Warr1024 |
it probably won't hurt much. |
| 22:28 |
Warr1024 |
consider that a player may swing their camera around very quickly compared to walking speed, so sending stuff just beyond their peripheral vision may not be too bad |
| 22:28 |
PilzAdam |
I mean, the client needs the blocks anyway if he moves around later on |
| 22:28 |
Warr1024 |
yep |
| 22:28 |
Warr1024 |
it'd be cheaper, code-wise, than trying to sync the fov up... |
| 22:29 |
Warr1024 |
bbiab... |
| 22:29 |
PilzAdam |
btw: I think we should move this to #minetest-dev so other core devs get attention |
| 22:30 |
Warr1024 |
sure. gotta run for a bit, back in an hour or so... |
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kahrl |
I suggested setting the server side fov to 180° to celeron a long time ago but he said it would have a large effect on required bandwidth |
| 22:36 |
kahrl |
I haven't done the math behind it but it sounds plausible |
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ShadowNinja |
That settles it. Wicd is evil. |
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anunakki |
OldCoder, |
| 23:05 |
anunakki |
hey man you around? |
| 23:06 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 23:06 |
anunakki |
how you been man |
| 23:06 |
OldCoder |
It has been quite a while! |
| 23:06 |
anunakki |
long time no see |
| 23:06 |
OldCoder |
... |
| 23:06 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
| 23:06 |
OldCoder |
Answer is on my blog |
| 23:06 |
OldCoder |
But PM and we can chat a bit |
| 23:06 |
anunakki |
ok |
| 23:13 |
iqualfragile |
OldCoder: its nice to see that you have recovered (or have you?) |
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| 23:16 |
Warr1024 |
back |
| 23:18 |
OldCoder |
Hi |
| 23:18 |
OldCoder |
iqualfragile, It is a process. One step at a time. I am sort of in shock at present. |
| 23:18 |
OldCoder |
Things may level out over time. |
| 23:18 |
ShadowNinja |
I think my network is fixed... |
| 23:18 |
iqualfragile |
you mentioned a blog entery, i can not find it |
| 23:19 |
OldCoder |
iqualfragile, PM then and thanks for interest |
| 23:19 |
NakedFury |
old coders are tough. nothing cant stop them from recovering |
| 23:20 |
NakedFury |
:D |
| 23:20 |
OldCoder |
iqualfragile, May I post a six line fragment? |
| 23:20 |
iqualfragile |
no problem |
| 23:20 |
OldCoder |
Perhaps there will be a balance |
| 23:20 |
OldCoder |
I am suspended in Time |
| 23:20 |
OldCoder |
Like the one friend I have from that far back |
| 23:20 |
OldCoder |
Twisted Time and I |
| 23:20 |
OldCoder |
are lost and falling free |
| 23:21 |
OldCoder |
It will be interesting |
| 23:21 |
OldCoder |
to see where we land |
| 23:21 |
OldCoder |
|
| 23:21 |
OldCoder |
iqualfragile, if you're interested in the blog feel free to PM |
| 23:21 |
OldCoder |
NakedFury, we will see |
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Gambit |
Okay fair warning everyone. Nikondork accidentally said "landmine" in a mirror three times. |
| 23:31 |
Gambit |
I'm kidding. |
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