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00:00 ShadowNinja Thought so. I just wasn't sure.
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00:05 Gambit Okay, so the dudebro is gone.
00:19 Kacey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN4KC_zlW4g
00:22 MinetestBot GIT: PilzAdam commited to minetest/minetest: Dont drop fonts with ENABLE_FREETYPE=0 587e7b299b 2013-05-15T17:20:10-07:00 http://git.io/Pkg4pw
00:22 NakedFury http://www.djoslin.info/finiteliquid.php
00:22 NakedFury amazing finite water physics
00:22 Gambit Guess he realized that "Oh Gambit isn't actually that active in here and I can't stalk him."
00:22 Gambit Or did he get banned for showing his true colors?
00:23 NakedFury never seen that weird guy here
00:24 Gambit He joined last week. I updated the mods on the situation and then parted.
00:27 PilzAdam Kacey, so, do you want us to have the models animation in planck-frame resolution?
00:30 Exio https://github.com/sapier/minetest/commit/7b98d582055c12769bda0b2ecacf0dcd396b7755
00:30 Exio Showing 21 changed files with 3,445 additions and 3,884 deletions.
00:30 Exio a big commit
00:32 PilzAdam need to sleep now; bye
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01:37 MinetestBot GIT: Uberi commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Add burnt luacontroller (so you don't lose your program after an overheat) and prevent interrupts from piling up (fixes #101, metadata trashing). Idea for burnt luacontroller comes from ShadowNinja. 682cf34792 2013-05-15T18:36:16-07:00 http://git.io/V9ylag
01:38 Menche how many repositories does MinetestBot monitor?
01:41 ShadowNinja Menche: https://github.com/sfan5/minetestbot-modules/blob/master/rssnotify.py#L44
01:41 Kacey ALL THE REPOSITORIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </joke>
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04:03 kaeza hi all
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05:05 tripod http://www.buzzfeed.com/awesomer/totally-common-occurrences-in-australia
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09:55 kaeza Calinou, one sec
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10:25 VanessaE morning all.
10:25 kaeza mornings
10:34 VanessaE quiet morning huh
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10:35 VanessaE is he live this time?
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10:38 VanessaE guess not :)
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10:44 * Calinou likes the new media progress bar
10:46 VanessaE http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/05/15/2110243/anti-infringement-company-caught-infringing-on-its-website
10:46 VanessaE pwn3d!
10:46 Calinou hadopi did that too
10:46 Calinou hadopi is/was a thing against piracy in france
10:46 Calinou for their first logo, they used the "bienvenue" font, which was trademarked by orange (an ISP)
10:46 Calinou without their permission
10:46 VanessaE heh
10:47 VanessaE will thee companies ever learn?
10:52 VanessaE these*
10:53 kaeza there was an US senator or candidate or some other politician that has some problem like that
10:53 kaeza recently
10:54 kaeza I can't recall any details though
10:54 kaeza I read it on the Internet, so it must be true
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11:06 kaeza random: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/vg-logos.jpg
11:08 VanessaE he
11:08 VanessaE heh
11:09 Calinou lol
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11:10 * Calinou wanted to start steam
11:10 * Calinou alt+F2 "xchat"
11:10 Calinou ...
11:10 Calinou thank you brain
11:10 VanessaE lol
11:10 kaeza lol
11:10 * Calinou is now playing TF2
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11:19 PilzAdam Hello everyone!
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11:20 VanessaE morning PA
11:22 iqualfragile morning
11:23 iqualfragile … well, its 13:22 here but i stood up just a short while ago
11:28 * PilzAdam too
11:28 * Calinou is playing mann vs machine in TF2 :D
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11:34 PilzAdam Calinou, VanessaE, http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90435#p90435 -> offtopic
11:35 VanessaE PilzAdam: I just replied to that.  Not offtopic at all.
11:36 VanessaE (though I wasn't finished)
11:36 VanessaE (actually I was)
11:37 PilzAdam replied too
11:37 PilzAdam but it is offtopic
11:37 VanessaE PilzAdam: decided*
11:38 PilzAdam fixed
11:38 VanessaE no, it's quite on-topic because it points to some kind of fundamental problem with Minetest or the core devs.
11:38 PilzAdam its a "fundamental problem" if people leave?
11:39 VanessaE if one person leaves, he's probably unwanted anyway.  Two is questionable.  Three is a trend.
11:39 PilzAdam there are people "leaving" every day
11:39 VanessaE no, it's a fundamental problem in that someone is doing something to precipitate people leaving.
11:39 VanessaE in other words:  We're doing something wrong.
11:40 VanessaE you can't force people to stay, but if you're forcing them to leave, it's a problem.
11:40 VanessaE (even if the force is only perceived)
11:40 PilzAdam I see more than 10 people in the top 50 list of # posts that have left
11:41 PilzAdam its just normal that people leave
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11:41 PilzAdam new people like BlockMen join us
11:41 VanessaE well sure, of course - but when they leave vocally, demanding to be banned, and then blanking their posts on the way out?  This is not normal at all.
11:41 PilzAdam it would be a problem if half of the community is leaving, but this is clearly not the case
11:42 VanessaE it only takes one person to start an exodus.
11:42 VanessaE morning, smoke.
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11:42 PilzAdam also, the way they left is very... inappropriate
11:43 VanessaE exactly.
11:43 VanessaE this indicates a deeper problem.
11:43 PilzAdam I think the problem is at their side
11:43 VanessaE part of it is.
11:43 PilzAdam they had wrong ideas of what Minetest/MTs development is
11:43 VanessaE Did they?  Maybe, but maybe not.
11:44 VanessaE is this a democracy?  No.  But that doesn't mean it has to be a dictatorship either, and that's what people are perceiving lately.
11:44 iqualfragile celeron55 has 333 posts
11:44 PilzAdam bbl
11:44 kaeza lol
11:45 kaeza iqualfragile, he's half the devil?
11:45 VanessaE heh
11:45 iqualfragile maybee
11:48 iqualfragile it just hit me that i have not actualy played minetest for more then a week
11:49 VanessaE I spend more time posting on the forums or modding than actually playing lateyl.
11:49 VanessaE or jabbering on irc ;)
11:49 kaeza same here
11:50 kaeza If I may add, I'm finding MT boring lately
11:50 iqualfragile yeah, im on irc (im not too active in the forums) and im creating the mod database
11:50 kaeza (to play that is)
11:50 VanessaE why's it boring?  what needs to change?
11:50 iqualfragile a challenge needs to be aded
11:50 iqualfragile namely: mobs
11:50 kaeza ^
11:50 VanessaE iqualfragile: until your database can track "Recommends" and "conflicts", it's not going anywhere, sorry
11:50 kaeza I have mobs on my game, but IDK
11:51 kaeza an "open ended" game gets boring the more you play it
11:51 iqualfragile VanessaE: as PilzAdam might have told you: yout case of conflicting with signs is an absolute exeption and a result of violating namespaces
11:52 VanessaE kaeza: which is probably why MC added enderdragon I guess
11:52 iqualfragile i am not going to add a field for that
11:52 VanessaE iqualfragile: I could cite other examples.
11:52 iqualfragile do so
11:52 VanessaE Any mod that cannot be used with some other mod, or which adds the same objects or uses the same recipes as another mod.
11:52 iqualfragile and i will add recommends when minetest has real support for soft dependencies
11:53 iqualfragile you are right about the crafting recipes but there should not be any other collision when nobody violates namespaces
11:54 VanessaE let's see, as I understand, that 3d armor+weilditems mod can't be used with stu's elbows-and-knees model, there's the thing with homedecor vs. signs and 3dforniture, don't use gloopores with glooptest
11:54 VanessaE there are others, I'm just too tired to remember now
11:54 kaeza nether + rivers/whatever
11:55 VanessaE there are a number of mods that require inventory plus, which can't be used with unified inventory
11:55 kaeza (actually, some of paramat's mods are incompatible with each other)
11:55 iqualfragile at least homedecor vs signs and 3dforniture is a result of (im sorry) bad programming
11:56 VanessaE iqualfragile: wrong.  it's a sign of integrating something that makes sense to integrate.
11:56 iqualfragile add a dependency not a conflict case
11:56 VanessaE kaeza: care to fill him in, since that happens to be your work? :)
11:56 VanessaE you can't depend on and expand upon something that wasn't written to be extensible
11:56 kaeza VanessaE, it's xyz's work :P
11:56 VanessaE kaeza: you integrated it :)
11:56 kaeza but anyway, he makes a good point
11:57 kaeza actually, hmm
11:57 kaeza nope
11:57 VanessaE and not writing things to be extensible is not, by itself, a sign of bad coding.
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12:00 iqualfragile why did you need to minetest.register_node(":signs:sign_yard", {…}?
12:01 iqualfragile why not depend on signs and just add your new signtypes?
12:01 VanessaE because it isn't the "signs" mod anymore
12:01 VanessaE it's under the homedecor namespace, so a colon is mandatory.
12:01 VanessaE you can't write a mod and call it "a", but then turn around and register "b:foo".  the engine will bitch about it.  The colon feature was added (and is documented in the API) to allow such overrides.
12:02 iqualfragile do you know why the engine bitches around?
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12:02 VanessaE because it thinks the mod name is incorrect.
12:02 VanessaE the original node names were signs:xxx, so for backward compatibility we kept it that way
12:02 iqualfragile and do you know why there is a big warning (iirc) in the api doc?
12:02 VanessaE what warning?
12:02 iqualfragile because it leads to conflicts
12:03 VanessaE there is not, to my knowledge, a warning in the API
12:03 VanessaE instead, the API explicitly says to do this if you need to.
12:03 VanessaE and for this very reason
12:04 VanessaE https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L157
12:05 VanessaE and btw, line 162 is incorrect - you do not have to depend on a mod to use its namespace.
12:06 iqualfragile ok, its not explicitly rewritten there but read the text at line 151
12:07 iqualfragile the next lines tell you how to override that
12:07 iqualfragile wich obviously leads to conflicts
12:07 iqualfragile the question is: why did you need to redefine signs:* in your mod?
12:07 iqualfragile i dont think there is a need for that
12:07 VanessaE line 151 is talking about the folder and mod names, not the colon prefix.
12:08 VanessaE I didn't redefine it - I kept the same naming convention because that's the proper way to do it.
12:08 VanessaE it's either that or use aliases, which is even more wrong.
12:09 iqualfragile (line 151) namespaces will prevent conflicts
12:09 VanessaE 'The ":" prefix can also be used for maintaining backwards compatibility.'
12:09 VanessaE and that is precisely why I used it.
12:09 iqualfragile (line 157) namespaces can be overridden using :
12:09 VanessaE jeez man, don't split hairs
12:09 VanessaE line 164:  ":" is useful for backwards compatibility.
12:09 iqualfragile (brain) using : might create conflicts, i should make shure i do not use them when i dont absolutely need to
12:10 iqualfragile there is no backwards, you are not the signs mod author
12:10 VanessaE JEEZ!  IT'S IN THE FUCKING API!
12:10 * VanessaE fumes
12:10 iqualfragile and it has a warning
12:10 iqualfragile afk
12:12 VanessaE I see nothing there about "warning", "caution", "danger", "note", or any other phrase that should suggest not to use that feature.  Do you really think it would have been officially supported if it were that dangerous to use?
12:14 VanessaE At any rate, you're dead wrong and you're just opening your project up to future complaints by refusing to add a conflicts field like every other package manager has.
12:14 VanessaE I model my posts after linux package managers, which routinely have those fields.  Would you presume to say those packages are badly coded?
12:19 PilzAdam <iqualfragile> and i will add recommends when minetest has real support for soft dependencies <- we have real support for soft dependencise
12:19 PilzAdam *dependencies
12:20 VanessaE recommends are not soft dependencies necessarily
12:20 VanessaE PilzAdam: and again, thanks for reminding me of that.  it made pipeworks' use of mesecons make more sense.
12:26 VanessaE most of the time, I use "Recommends:" to indicate recipe options, e.g. using moreores tin ingots in the making of a homedecor fridge.
12:26 VanessaE those work fine regardless of which mod loads first.
12:26 VanessaE so a softdepend isn't needed then.
12:27 PilzAdam softdepends could show it the user in a more "official" way
12:27 VanessaE true.
12:28 VanessaE nevertheless, those two fields are needed in any kind of mod installer/manager or it's a dead deal.
12:29 VanessaE don't.  overcompliate.  it.
12:29 VanessaE (or overcomplicate* it)
12:33 PilzAdam actually, what you suggest overcomplicates it
12:33 PilzAdam if you have "Depends" "Softdepends" "Confilct" "Recommend" "Not recommended" fields then its complicated
12:34 PilzAdam but just support the fields that are actually supported by the engine ("Depends" and "Softdepends") will be fine
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12:39 iqualfragile PilzAdam: there is support for softdeps? cool
12:39 iqualfragile how do you use them?
12:40 kaeza iqualfragile, "othermod?"
12:40 kaeza (in depends.txt)
12:41 iqualfragile ok, i will add support for that into mmdb
12:41 kaeza for example: "moda\nmodb\nmodc?\nmodd"
12:41 iqualfragile (will still call that field recommends)
12:41 VanessaE kaeza: and "othermod" in optdepends.txt
12:41 kaeza and that too :)
12:42 iqualfragile that should not be used anymore
12:42 PilzAdam that will be dropped at the end of 2013 though
12:42 iqualfragile https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L119
12:42 VanessaE anymore?  it was *just* added
12:43 VanessaE PilzAdam: in theory it will be, but if you guys had any brains at all, it would be permanent :)
12:43 kaeza IMHO you should leave that up to two releases from 0.4.7
12:43 kaeza no more, no less
12:43 PilzAdam kaeza, its actually funny how no language can translate "Shutting down stuff..." properly
12:44 kaeza PilzAdam, yeah :(
12:44 PilzAdam well, the german "Herunterfahren..." kinda translates it good
12:45 PilzAdam its the term you use to describe the shut down process of computers
12:45 iqualfragile thats because "stuff" is a crappy word
12:45 kaeza in spanish, the closest would be "Cerrando" ("closing") or "deinicializando" ("deinitializing", too long)
12:45 iqualfragile you would not write Halte "Dinge" an in german
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12:47 kaeza though "closing" looks more like the entire program is closing
12:47 kaeza I believe it is also used when exiting to the main menu, right?
12:49 kaeza actually, "Apagando cosas" would be very literal, if unprofessional looking
12:49 kaeza Exio, ^
12:49 PilzAdam "Shutting down stuff..." isnt very "proffesional" either
12:50 VanessaE why not "Shutting down related services" ?
12:50 PilzAdam the OS is a related service...
12:50 kaeza too long perhaps?
12:51 kaeza err
12:51 kaeza anyway, I'll translate as that and if somebody cares to provide a better translation, he/she will do so
12:51 VanessaE PilzAdam: no one's going to make that mistake, but ok
12:52 PilzAdam kaeza, just translate "Shutting down..." (without the stuff)
12:52 PilzAdam *"stuff"
12:52 iqualfragile ok, soft dependencies are supported now
13:02 VanessaE New build: 587e7b29[...]
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13:21 RealBadAngel hi folks
13:22 VanessaE hey RBA
13:22 RealBadAngel whats up doc?
13:23 iqualfragile hi RealBadAngel
13:28 VanessaE G*D damn it
13:28 RealBadAngel i need a tool to make normal and specular maps fpr given png. anyone knowin such one?
13:28 RealBadAngel *for
13:28 VanessaE I grant someone interact and right away they grief signs.
13:30 RealBadAngel i found Crazybump app but wine refuse to run it
13:30 RealBadAngel its windows/mac only
13:30 VanessaE can't gimp do that stuff?
13:30 RealBadAngel i need something automated
13:31 PilzAdam wow, just started valgrind again and only found 5 memory leaks
13:31 RealBadAngel via scripting or something
13:31 iqualfragile RealBadAngel: how do you want it to be generated (on the base of wich information)
13:31 iqualfragile *which
13:32 iqualfragile normalmaps are 3d, pngs are 2d, where do you get the additional information from?
13:32 RealBadAngel ive googled and found out that there are programs that create maps automatically
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13:33 RealBadAngel propably theyre not perfect but i need such one
13:33 john_minetest RBA: If you have got a texture you can't determine what it looks like in 3d. There must be something that gives a hint. Like colors.
13:33 VanessaE speaking of textures, fix your broken hv battery box images :)
13:33 iqualfragile i do not think that automated programs will deliver any good results
13:34 VanessaE RealBadAngel: scripting, try imagemagick
13:34 VanessaE afaik, it can do everything gimp can
13:34 RealBadAngel there are quite a few apps that dont ask such questions
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13:34 RealBadAngel and producing all the needed maps
13:35 RealBadAngel like this one: http://www.crazybump.com/
13:35 RealBadAngel but i dont have windows or mac
13:36 RealBadAngel or this one: http://quixel.se/ndo/
13:37 john_minetest Seems it takes the brightness and uses it to make normal maps.
13:38 john_minetest Blender can do this, too iirc.
13:38 RealBadAngel i know that gimp can that too
13:38 RealBadAngel but i dont have time to play 2hrs with single texture
13:38 RealBadAngel i need somethin automated
13:39 VanessaE RealBadAngel: like I said, look into imagemagick
13:39 RealBadAngel i never used it
13:39 VanessaE surely it can be convinced to do it.
13:39 VanessaE it's open source, quite scriptable, and fairly powerful
13:39 iqualfragile i know that blender has a python script interface
13:40 RealBadAngel im asking for help here :)
13:40 RealBadAngel i need a way to easily create maps needed to turn on bumpmapping
13:40 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I
13:40 VanessaE RealBadAngel: I'd help if I knew wtf I was doing in that regard :)
13:41 kaeza RealBadAngel, aren't bumpmaps just 2d images?
13:41 RealBadAngel they are
13:41 VanessaE kaeza: indeed they are, 2d with levels of grey to indicate height of the bumps
13:41 RealBadAngel blue...
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13:42 VanessaE grey.
13:42 kaeza fuchsia
13:42 RealBadAngel so why the heck all bumpmaps are blueish? ;)
13:42 VanessaE RealBadAngel: dunno.
13:42 kaeza dunno I'm colorblind :D
13:42 VanessaE https://www.google.com/search?q=bumpmap&amp;num=100&amp;client=ubuntu&amp;hs=FZK&amp;channel=fs&amp;source=lnms&amp;tbm=isch&amp;sa=X&amp;ei=SuKUUc6RC46G9QTlgoHABQ&amp;ved=0CAoQ_AUoAQ&amp;biw=981&amp;bih=693
13:42 VanessaE seems like there's plenty of grey there, and the "blue" ones if you look closely are anachrome 3d renderings.
13:43 VanessaE (I think)
13:43 RealBadAngel lets say so:
13:43 RealBadAngel somebody please help me find a tool
13:43 john_minetest RBA: It works with gimp.
13:43 john_minetest I just did it.
13:43 RealBadAngel and i will release bumpmapping shader this weekend
13:43 iqualfragile it does not realy matter wich colour they are, as just one channel is used anywas
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13:43 VanessaE RealBadAngel: http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/transform/#shade
13:43 VanessaE try that.
13:44 john_minetest RealBadAngel: *Not gimp, blender
13:44 VanessaE well maybe not
13:44 RealBadAngel i need A SCRIPT
13:44 RealBadAngel now how to
13:44 VanessaE so write one ;)
13:45 john_minetest Blender uses textures as bumpmap. I think it might work as script because blender is scriptable.
13:45 RealBadAngel i dont have time to learn another program just to write one script :(
13:45 VanessaE RealBadAngel: you're gonna have to
13:45 VanessaE or do what I said before - baby steps
13:46 VanessaE get the important stuff in now
13:46 iqualfragile RealBadAngel: VanessaE just linked you the documetation for imagemagic
13:46 VanessaE add the eyecandy later.
13:46 RealBadAngel sure, another app to learn
13:46 RealBadAngel never used imagemagic before
13:47 RealBadAngel like irrlicht and glsl shaders wasnt enough to learn
13:47 VanessaE http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/transform/#emboss
13:47 VanessaE this may also help
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13:47 VanessaE embossing can be used to create bump maps under limited conditions
13:47 RealBadAngel im not Einstein to get fluent in all those apps in a few weeks
13:47 RealBadAngel including fuckin blender
13:47 VanessaE (like if you have sand, or cloth, or some other all-over texture)
13:48 RealBadAngel i do have shaders working
13:48 RealBadAngel but i dont have content
13:48 RealBadAngel im not able to create complex blender models
13:48 RealBadAngel i dont have normal and specular maps
13:48 VanessaE RealBadAngel: just release what you have, in a small enough package to be useful to most people.  Add the other stuff later on
13:49 RealBadAngel what? shaders without data?
13:49 VanessaE what about that water shader?  that looked pretty good as-is
13:49 iqualfragile RealBadAngel: for bumpmaps: just create an gray .png with different tones of grey
13:49 VanessaE or you mentioned having done crepuscular rays also
13:49 iqualfragile ( i did not use shades on purpose)
13:49 iqualfragile that should do it
13:50 iqualfragile (for testing)
13:51 VanessaE RealBadAngel: for i in *.png; do b=`basename "$i"`;  convert "$i" -colorspace Gray -emboss 0x1 $b"_bumpmap.png"; done
13:51 VanessaE that'll give you something to work with
13:54 iqualfragile but be aware that its not an high-quality result at all
13:55 VanessaE nope.
13:56 VanessaE it's just a test, something to get him started.
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14:23 arsdragonfly did sfan5 add i18n to lua mods?
14:23 sfan5 arsdragonfly: kind of
14:23 arsdragonfly how?
14:24 sfan5 arsdragonfly: what do mean "how?"
14:25 arsdragonfly Idk what "kind of" means
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14:30 sfan5 arsdragonfly: it works in singleplayer and for server that are for a specific language (like spanish servers)
14:30 sfan5 It also "works" on MP, but everyone will see the lang the server admin set, and the lang they set
14:31 kaeza celeron had a branch that allowed to set language on a per-client basis
14:31 kaeza I don't remember where it is though :/
14:33 arsdragonfly sfan5 :so every line of text will become two lines?
14:34 sfan5 arsdragonfly: ...no
14:36 arsdragonfly or they're put in a single line?
14:36 sfan5 no
14:37 arsdragonfly :S then how can they see both languages?
14:37 sfan5 if a mods names the item "Diamond Stick" it will search in the translation files for "Diamond Stick" and replace it with e.g. "Diamant Stab" (german)
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15:16 BlockMen PilzAdam, sfan5, -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxZoyjZaNXU#t=853
15:16 sfan5 BlockMen: :O
15:16 BlockMen why doesnt he know about minetest -.-'
15:17 sfan5 well, you could write him a message and hope he reads it
15:17 BlockMen sfan5, iirc you are the one with a yt account :P
15:18 Jordach BlockMen, your avatar looks just like his
15:18 sfan5 you could write him using gronkh.de
15:18 BlockMen Jordach, lets say similar :P
15:18 BlockMen sfan5, good idea
15:19 Jordach BlockMen == gronkn
15:19 Jordach gronkh*
15:19 BlockMen Jordach, lol. no...not even a bit
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15:20 PilzAdam this fucking Terasology crashed my PC
15:21 Jordach awwwwwww, my heart bleeds
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15:24 Calinou it never did for me, PilzAdam
15:24 Calinou how about not using an AMD card :3
15:24 PilzAdam nVidia here
15:25 Jordach Nvidia*
15:25 PilzAdam no
15:25 Jordach <- grammar nazi
15:25 * Jordach dropped an n-bomb
15:25 Jordach :P
15:26 PilzAdam why do all non-germans are allowed to make nazi jokes?
15:26 sfan5 howto: convert minecraft maps into minetest WE schematics
15:26 sfan5 http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6007
15:26 PilzAdam *are
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15:27 Jordach PilzAdam, dunno
15:27 Jordach because we actually won the war...?
15:27 BlockMen sfan5, so you use the we-data from mc to add it in mt?
15:27 sfan5 BlockMen: i use the data from mc and create mt we-data out of it
15:28 BlockMen nice
15:29 BlockMen so mc-we uses different data format than mc-maps, right?
15:29 sfan5 partly
15:30 sfan5 a .schematic from MC-WE could be valid chunk data, missing a few things like skylight
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15:31 Calinou Jordach: NVIDIA is the proper capitalization
15:32 BlockMen sfan5, ic
15:32 sfan5 ic?
15:32 Jordach and my DAW jammed
15:32 BlockMen i see?
15:35 BlockMen bbl
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15:57 sfan5 basically every super unexpirenced person that plays MT: http://youtu.be/lQFLaHFVMcw?t=5m52s
15:59 Jordach sfan5, LOL
15:59 sfan5 i laughed so hard..
15:59 Jordach > i am such a n00b
15:59 Jordach highlight of my day
16:00 sfan5 and this: http://youtu.be/lQFLaHFVMcw?t=8m5s
16:02 Jordach to install windows 8 or not to install windows 8
16:02 Jordach that is the question
16:04 PilzAdam NO!
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16:11 sfan5 test
16:16 john_minetest sfan5: If you wanted to write "test", it worked.
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16:29 markveidemanis Hi
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16:47 sfan5 !seen markveidemanis
16:47 MinetestBot sfan5: markveidemanis was last seen at 2013-05-16 16:30:49 UTC on #minetest
16:47 markveidemanis ???
16:47 markveidemanis nice!
16:48 Jordach !seen VanessaE
16:48 MinetestBot Jordach: vanessae was last seen at 2013-05-16 13:57:14 UTC on #minetest
16:50 RealBadAngel was talking to her
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16:50 RealBadAngel but connection was lost ;)
16:51 RealBadAngel guess shes afk for a moment
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16:51 MinetestBot john_cephalopoda: zeg9 was last seen at 2013-05-13 11:35:22 UTC on #minetest
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16:53 * john_minetest is downloading the Kerbal Space Program demo
16:55 markveidemanis I cheated in candie box!!!
16:55 markveidemanis You have 100000001439163 candies! You have 99999990952982450000 lollipops!
16:56 Calinou lol
16:56 Calinou cool story
16:56 Jordach lol candy box
16:56 markveidemanis https://gist.github.com/desandro/5498482
16:56 markveidemanis LOL so much time wasted
16:57 Calinou Jordach: fun game, huh
17:00 * kaeza is undecided between using 2.2mlp for a better sword, or 4.4mlp for faster candies
17:00 VanessaE sorryto wander off, had to take care of something outside.
17:00 kaeza (mlp not to be confysed with MLP)
17:00 kaeza -y+u
17:01 VanessaE mlp, millions of lollipops? :)
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17:01 kaeza yep
17:01 Jordach kaeza, faster candies
17:02 kaeza You have 3866275 lollipops! <-- will have to wait a bit
17:02 kaeza You have eaten 1274723 candies! :3
17:03 Calinou dammit, I realized I didn't have candy box open
17:03 Calinou You have eaten 3085937 candies!
17:03 Calinou You have 4486700 lollipops!
17:04 markveidemanis 6fhty
17:04 markveidemanis I give my code away, its all infinite
17:04 kaeza meh
17:04 kaeza what's the fun in cheating?
17:05 Jordach finding a way to hack it is more fun
17:05 kaeza ↑ ↑ ↓ ↓ ← → ← → A B Sel St
17:05 Jordach two up, two down, left, right, left, right, b, a START!
17:06 kaeza derp
17:06 kaeza no wonder I never got 30 lives :(
17:06 kaeza does it work IRL?
17:07 kaeza that would be fun #YOLTT
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17:08 Jordach smart TV my ASS
17:08 * Calinou S-recommends Jordach
17:08 Jordach wont even find an xbox on hdmi \o/
17:09 Jordach Calinou, all i get is pornos
17:09 Jordach :P
17:09 Calinou all I get is phoronix news about AMD
17:09 Calinou this sucks
17:11 * Jordach is busy playing poker
17:13 * Calinou is busy playing TF2 mann vs machine
17:13 Calinou when there are players, it's better :| there are few people playing it
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17:42 Jordach hey dante123#
17:43 VanessaE zzz
17:43 dante123 hi jordach
17:43 VanessaE afternoon dante123
17:43 dante123 afternoon VanessaE
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18:05 kaeza YAY /me won the lottery
18:06 kaeza I received an email saying so. I just need to provide my personal info and I get 4 billion dollars!
18:06 kaeza stupid spammers
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18:10 NakedFury hate spam like that
18:15 john_minetest kaeza: Well, this is "nice" spam. You "won" something. The spam I get always say "You have to pay something that you ordered some time ago. Open the file attatchment to see more" or "Your paypal account has been hacked. Enter your information on the paypal site by clicking on this link". The paypal link was a http site hosted on alphahosting. I didn't click it but i read the html mail formatting.
18:16 NakedFury I also like the your world of warcraft account was caught selling gold or some other excuse. I havent played WoW ever, dont even have an account on it
18:17 john_minetest Why can't I get nice spam like "You won a few billion dollars!" or "50% off on our health care products that contain dangerous ingredients!"?
18:17 NakedFury or the usual viagra or enlarge penis or women looking for me
18:18 kaeza the sad thing is that there are people that *DOES* click the links, send credit card number, etc
18:19 PilzAdam survival of the fit..... "non-clicker" :-)
18:19 john_minetest I got no pay-pal account xD. But it seems that they have found out "my name". I am using different names everywhere, so I know that they have got it from amazon. I should maybe write a mail to amazon if I have got time...
18:20 PilzAdam john_minetest, then they will sue you that you have not taken your real name :-)
18:20 PilzAdam (they = amazon)
18:21 john_minetest It is my real name (only without my middle name), amazon is the only site that has got this name.
18:22 john_minetest I think if I would open the file attatchments in the mails, avast would say that they are okay xD. I hate avast antivirus... It deletes every executable that I compile myself.
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18:26 frogcrush Good day, all
18:32 meldrian hello everyone :)
18:32 PilzAdam spam: http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90493#p90493
18:33 frogcrush People are silly, posting spam on sites...
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19:13 sfan5 wow! the ip 41.200.45.237 spammed my apache logs with many tries to exploit vunerable things
19:13 PilzAdam ddos?
19:14 sfan5 no
19:14 sfan5 things like this: http://pastie.org/7917355
19:15 PilzAdam I mean do you want to start to DDoS that IP?
19:15 sfan5 no, why?
19:16 sfan5 but I may just write a honeypot script that acts like the exploit is suposed to act
19:20 markveidemanis hiya
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19:26 khonkhortisan I was to slow to see the spam off
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19:38 ShadowNinja Hmmm, anyone know the answer to "what is the only thing to go beyond our universe" in candies?
19:39 Jordach <skiingpenguins-> how do i delete a folder over ssh?
19:39 Jordach <Jordach> sudo rm -r *
19:39 ShadowNinja +the limits of
19:39 VanessaE ShadowNinja: the multiverse? Quantum mechanics? G*d? :)
19:39 Calinou ShadowNinja, the answer
19:39 Jordach 42
19:39 * Calinou engineer laugh
19:39 * Calinou upgrades his sentry to level 3
19:40 * Jordach saps Calinou's sentry
19:40 ShadowNinja Thanks!
19:40 Calinou :(
19:40 Calinou np :P
19:40 * Calinou has 5.3mlp
19:40 Calinou need about 12mlp for faster candies
19:43 PilzAdam "You have eaten 5670386632 candies!"
19:43 PilzAdam I want moar!
19:43 Jordach PilzAdam, hows the diabetes
19:43 Jordach enjoy your diabeetus
19:43 Calinou lol
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19:44 PilzAdam with 15000 HP its fairly easy to beat the last boss over and over again
19:44 PilzAdam to get more candies and more HP :-)
19:45 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90444#p90444
19:45 Calinou lol, that was expected
19:45 Calinou I wouldn't let anyone named "Doyouseemysword123" join my server if I had one
19:45 Calinou lol
19:46 VanessaE I don't usually make judgements based on people's nicks
19:46 PilzAdam "can you grant me interact? nick: 8======D"
19:46 khonkhortisan I wouldn't grant them interact, because that would mess up the question
19:48 Calinou http://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=90465#p90465
19:48 Calinou instruments?
19:48 * Calinou plays !#$?!~ Tuba and Akordeon
19:48 * Calinou can even kill Jordach using them
19:48 Calinou :-)
19:48 VanessaE only thing I can play is a piano, and rather badly at that.
19:49 VanessaE what's on the other side of Jordach's links?
19:49 Calinou TIL I can select some text then click "quick quote"
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19:53 john_minetest Chuck Norris can kill you by only thinking of a Tuba and an Akordeon.
19:53 VanessaE accordion*
19:54 khonkhortisan accordéon
19:54 Calinou ^
19:55 Calinou blame mikeeeusa for "akordeon" :)
19:55 khonkhortisan I searched for the first spelling, and wikipedia decided I didn't speak english
19:56 Jordach VanessaE, some music that made it into ambiance
19:56 Jordach ambience*?
19:57 ShadowNinja lol, You have 3.5e+157 candies!
19:57 khonkhortisan INFINITYe+INFINITY
20:01 VanessaE oh
20:01 VanessaE Jordach: skaven stuff?
20:01 VanessaE ambiance.
20:01 Jordach NO
20:01 Jordach my own works
20:02 VanessaE ohhh
20:02 VanessaE cool
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20:05 Jordach BULLSHIT. http://i.imgur.com/4shysGE.png
20:05 Jordach VanessaE, http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?iwhpylyopro7osb
20:05 Jordach something I just whacked up
20:07 VanessaE Jordach: ompldr isn't working for me, either.
20:07 VanessaE (same screen, in fact)
20:07 Jordach VanessaE, good thing mediafire is just as good
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20:08 VanessaE I'll stick to hosting stuff on my paid-for web space :)
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20:09 * PilzAdam starts the hard mode of the candy box
20:10 Jordach PilzAdam likes it HARD
20:15 sfan5 good night
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20:27 iqualfragile sfan5: wtf?
20:27 iqualfragile its 22:30
20:27 Calinou it's 2013, people go to bed to use their tablet.
20:27 Calinou or to play minecraft.
20:27 PilzAdam or both
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20:31 meldrian :)
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20:39 iqualfragile you cant realy play minetest on your tablet
20:39 iqualfragile yet
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20:41 STHGOM you can
20:42 * STHGOM is away: I'm AFK
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20:51 VanessaE what happened?
20:52 PilzAdam * VanessaE hat die Verbindung getrennt (*.net *.split)
20:52 VanessaE ah, ok
20:52 VanessaE (all I saw was connection reset by peer)
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20:53 jojoa1997 !up sfan5.dyns.org
20:53 ShadowBot jojoa1997: sfan5.dyns.org:30000 seems to be down
20:53 MinetestBot sfan5.dyns.org:30000 seems to be down
20:54 * STHGOM is back (gone 00:12:20)
20:54 STHGOM heehee
20:54 PilzAdam STHGOM, stop it
20:54 STHGOM i will be on and off
20:54 STHGOM ?
20:54 STHGOM what?
20:55 PilzAdam * STHGOM is back (gone 00:12:20)
20:55 STHGOM is that spam/
20:56 VanessaE no, it isn't (spam is NOT defined as "excess messages")
20:56 VanessaE but it is generally frowned upon.
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20:59 STHGOM ok
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21:22 harrison does ascii art of hello kitty as kali / hitler count as spam?
21:22 harrison cause if not, i can post some
21:22 VanessaE post it here and it'll qualify as flooding.
21:23 harrison oh, i remember you
21:23 VanessaE or just unwanted gibberish
21:23 harrison VanessaE
21:23 harrison you are strict
21:23 harrison i will not post an ascii art at this time
21:23 VanessaE ...
21:24 VanessaE I think you'll find there are others in here who are far more strict than I am regarding flooding and spamming
21:28 init VanessaE: query? :P
21:28 VanessaE hm?
21:41 john_minetest http://www.retronaut.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Typist-of-the-Future.jpg <- Epic.
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21:48 VanessaE heh
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22:06 STHGOM cya
22:06 VanessaE bye
22:06 STHGOM he go, i go
22:08 PilzAdam we germans really love cars: http://youtu.be/jREghQI4-MQ :D
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22:30 harrison here on the shore of the Inland Sea, i gaze out at the silhouette of Ayers Island on the horizon
22:32 Uberi all I can see out my window is the Lonely Mountain
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22:52 ShadowNinja It works! :-) ShadowBot should sleep properly now.
22:53 PilzAdam good night, ShadowNinja
22:53 PilzAdam *Bot
22:54 VanessaE heh
22:55 ShadowNinja I removed the ACTION message BTW.
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23:03 iqualfragile PilzAdam: well, actualy i dont like that kind of car, its just too big for the average user wich makes it wastefull
23:04 PilzAdam iqualfragile, I just randomly found this video and thought its funny
23:05 iqualfragile i thinks its ridiculous… well, laughed anyways
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